Re: [ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread ZN

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On 1/3/02 at 9:00 PM Dexter wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
>I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
>other differences?
>Is there a PSU and/or power supply section schematic anywhere, so if I got
>one shipped over, I could convert it for US 110v 60Hz operation? I'm
>competent to do it, *with the right information*...
>
>Dave

You need a 8V DC minimum at 1.8A (1A is more than enough if you don't use
any peripherals, but then you'll hardly be able to do anything much) and a
12-15V AC power. The 8V DC goes into a 7805 regulator, the 15V AC is used
for a +-12V supply (there is a rectifier and a 78L12/79L12 regulator pair
in the QL). If you are willing to modify the QL a bit you can use a
+5/+-12V power supply, these are commonly available at various surplus
dealers.
Also, if you can get a RGB monitor capable at operating at the right synch
frequency, don't bother with a US QL, you will likely just give yourself
more headaches with incompatibilities. An old Sony 1301/2 or 1401/2, NEC
Multisynch 3D and similar are perfect for the QL and it also goes up to
SVGA. Again, you should be able to get one for $50 or so at surplus
dealers. You might need to do a resistive divider on the RGB lines to get
the TTL output voltage down to 1Vpp standard RGB analog input level.

Nasta 




Re: [ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread Timothy Swenson

At 09:00 PM 1/3/2002 +, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
>I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
>other differences?

There should be some US QL's running around from US sources.  Jack 
Boatwright in Oregon or John Rish in Texas (listed as Home Electronic 
Services on Thierry's web site list) should have some or know where to get 
some.  Also, T/SNUG (T/S North American User Group) might know of some 
folks that have upgraded to say QPC or Q40 and are willing to get rid of 
their QL.  The NESQLUG would also be source.

I don't know if I would trust EBAY for a QL.  I would trust other QLers.

Tim Swenson
A US QLer




Re: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread P Witte

Dave Walker writes:

> My experience is that as long as you ahve at least 128Mb of memory then
Win2K outperformas any of the Win9x variants.

I agree (apart from booting and shutdown which are annoyingly slow) It is
also much more stable than any other variant of windoze Ive tried. W95OSR2
cant be bought for love or money so its down to W98SE or Me (but I couldnt
even install Me on one of my machines..) Pity QPC cant do proper sounds on
W2k/NT, but otherwise its as 'great.' as these things go.. Besides memory is
dirt cheap at the moment, and if you only use windoze for QPC a 20Gig HD
youll still have more than 19+Gig or so for QPC ;)

Per







Re: [ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread P Witte

Dexter writes:

> I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.

Try the Qbox-USA BBS on 810-254-9878, 24 hours (as advertised in QL-Today)


Per





Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Roy Wood

In message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Norman 
Dunbar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
>Win956 is way too flakey for anything - 'real' Windows programmers refer to
>it as Windows Play Station due to its inability to be used for anything
>other than games.
>
>Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
>We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.
I totally agree with this. All versions of the 9x code are just dreadful 
and 95 was the worst. W2K is stable at least. Since all versions of 
Windoze have more bugs than a compost heap you may as well use the one 
that keeps working longest. The primary problem with all versions of w9x 
is memory fragmentation and only since I changed to W2K have I been able 
to throw Memturbo away.
-- 
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Tel : +44 (0)1273 386030 Fax : +44 (0)1273 381577
Mobile +44(0)7836 745501
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Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <20020103182853.UAJA1008.fep02-svc.ttyl.com@localhost>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

>> From: Thierry Godefroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Thu 03/Jan/2002 16:06 GMT
>> To: ql-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea 
>rned) Love Live QLs
>> 
>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:27:56 - , Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> 
>> > Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
>> 
>> Apart from being slowest than Win95,
>
>My experience is that as long as you ahve at least 128Mb of memory then Win2K 
>outperformas any of the Win9x variants.
>
>> more bloated (if at all
>> possible) and giving you no way to run in TRUE DOS (a MUST on
>> desktop PCs for QXL !), nothing is wrong...
>
>This point I have to give you!
>
>> 
>> > Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
>> > We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.
>> 
>> It may run "nicely", this is not to say that it makes a good usage
>> of the machine ressources: re-install Win95 and compare the speeds
>> of the same software under both OSes: you will be _amazed_ by the
>> speed difference...
>
>My laptop is is dual boot (with the OS in separate partitions so they do not 
>interfer with each other).   The performance under Win2K is noticeably faster 
>than under Win95.   I do have 256Mb of memory on the machine and I think Win2K 
>makes better use of extra memory than Win9x.

Trust you to have the luxurious hardware, Dave :-)

When are you going to attend a London Quanta Group meeting, we would
love to see you with your speedy laptop ?

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] QDOS TCP/IP (was: Welcome to ql-users)

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:20:26 +0100
>Richard Zidlicky  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > We have Ethernet! It works fine on Q40/Q60, but under Linux.
>> > The development of QDOS/SMS software is (as always) the big bottleneck.
>> 
>> actually it would be easy to get Ethernet and TCP/IP working in QDOS. 
>
>Do you think of a port or writing a driver from scratch?
>
>> A much bigger problem is 'ppp' support, unfortunately thats what most 
>> people need to get internet access. 
>
>Yep, that's why Jon's tcp/ip stack cannot be used by most of us. I still haven't 
>found a slip provider.

A few UK providers have it, like Demon.  Although not much use to you in
Germany :-(

Usually it is the 'older' more established providers that have it
available, as the newer ones just rent the PPP.

>> A Q60 on DSL or cable modem would
>> be fun though.

-- 
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[ql-users] OT - Amusing

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman

Hi all,

I have just recieved an amusing version of Don McCleans 'American Pie'
as a version for computers ... if you haven't come across it, I can mail
you a copy.

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thierry Godefroy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:27:56 - , Norman Dunbar wrote:
>
>> Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
>
>Apart from being slowest than Win95, more bloated (if at all
>possible) and giving you no way to run in TRUE DOS (a MUST on
>desktop PCs for QXL !), nothing is wrong...
>
>> Win956 is way too flakey for anything
>
>95 OSR2, once patched appropriately with all bugfixes available
>from Microsoft site, is CERTAINLY more stable than 98 or 2K,
>stable enough anyway to run QPC2 (which is the ONLY reason why
>I keep Win95 on my laptop knowadays... if only QPC2 could run
>under Linux !!!).

I can confirm that QPC2 is solid with Win95, or is that the other way
around ?

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



Re: [ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread Robert Newson

Dexter wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
> I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
> other differences?


US TVs use NTSC (Never Twice Same Color; with 525 lines, Horiz Freq 
15.734kHZ) whereas UK TVs use PAL (with 625 lines, Horiz Freq 15.625kHz) 
(checkout http://www.bnoack.com - a mine of tech data), so the TV output 
(modulator) MUST be different.  Assuming US build QLs had a similar list of 
screen outputs (TV, Colour monitor, B/W [monocrome] monitor, RGB), then a UK 
QL's TV & Colour [PAL] monitor will be unusable.

I think that ULA ZX8301 generates the 50Hz (vertical sync) interrupt (along 
with the screen display) and the system (CPU) clock, so I suspect there may 
be a different US version .

Hope I don't sound too much of a killjoy; are there any hardware gurus who 
can confirm/deny these suspicions?




Re: [ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Cadman

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Hi all,
>
>I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
>I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
>other differences?
>
>Is there a PSU and/or power supply section schematic anywhere, so if I got
>one shipped over, I could convert it for US 110v 60Hz operation? I'm
>competent to do it, *with the right information*...

As the organiser for the London Quanta Group, we have several QL's that
have been donated to us by now 'lapsed' users.  They are in various
states of working and non-working ( good for spares ), with various
ROM's in them.  Obviously they are all of UK specification as regards
power requirement, i.e, 240v.

I have no experience of shipping to US.

-- 
Malcolm Cadman



[ql-users] US QL differences...

2002-01-03 Thread Dexter


Hi all,

I've been sat like a hawk on Ebay waiting for a QL to come up for auction.
I recall the US QLs had a different ROM version and PSU, but are their any
other differences?

Is there a PSU and/or power supply section schematic anywhere, so if I got
one shipped over, I could convert it for US 110v 60Hz operation? I'm
competent to do it, *with the right information*...

Dave






Re: [ql-users] QDOS TCP/IP (was: Welcome to ql-users)

2002-01-03 Thread ZN

On 1/3/02 at 8:56 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> actually it would be easy to get Ethernet and TCP/IP working in QDOS. 

>Do you think of a port or writing a driver from scratch?

I think what is referred tois the fact that TCP/IP uses Ethernet framing
anyway, so getting ethernet hardware to work with it is relatively simple.
In fact, even using the QL net protocol over Ethernet would not be any big
problem. Of course, not as usefull as TCP/IP but a start for sure.

Nasta




[ql-users] QDOS TCP/IP (was: Welcome to ql-users)

2002-01-03 Thread cgraf

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 23:20:26 +0100
Richard Zidlicky  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > We have Ethernet! It works fine on Q40/Q60, but under Linux.
> > The development of QDOS/SMS software is (as always) the big bottleneck.
> 
> actually it would be easy to get Ethernet and TCP/IP working in QDOS. 

Do you think of a port or writing a driver from scratch?

> A much bigger problem is 'ppp' support, unfortunately thats what most 
> people need to get internet access. 

Yep, that's why Jon's tcp/ip stack cannot be used by most of us. I still haven't found 
a slip provider.

> A Q60 on DSL or cable modem would
> be fun though.

Sure.
 
> Bye
> Richard

Claus



Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread ZN

On 1/3/02 at 5:24 PM Dexter wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:
>
>> the PCB design leaves a LOT to be desired. It seems that whoever did it
>> is not very experienced. IMHO the board could have been 2/3 or even half
>> the size.
>
> The designer actually said on the site that it was a prototype board and
> wasn't optimized for size or cost, and that they could easily reduce the
> size by that amount...
> Just being fair...

True, maybe I did speak out of turn since I only gave it a quick look.

>Does anyone here have any experience with Eagle v4? What package do you
>folks over at Q60 HQ use?

I tried it a long time ago in DOS, I think it was still V1 :-)
I used Tango for a long time (great all-rounder there, not the best at
anything but extremely usable). And then Accell got bought out by the
makers of Protel, which is what I use now. When I started with it, it was
absolutely horrible, did everything Protel did if you managed to get around
the bugs, but under windows and about 10x slower. Fortunately, they cured a
lot of the bugs, and the CPU speed caught up with the slow code :-)

Nasta





Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread ZN

On 1/3/02 at 6:25 PM Peter Graf wrote:

>Hi Nasta,

>>> I'm sorry, but I must destroy any hopes that Coldfire CPU's
>>> (version > 1) could execute our existing QL software.

>>I would very much appreciate if you could give us some more
>>details on this.

>Two examples for CF V4e:
>
>- mov.b xxx,-(sp)' adjusts the stack pointer by -1
>- lsl and lsr set the overflow bit to the same as the carry bit
>
>Both can not be forced to trap out. What a stupidity.
>No way code on the CF core can solve this in general.
>(Except emulating the whole 68k CPU, of course.)

What stupidity, indeed! I recall the first example being a bug in early
68000 silicon... looks like someone used the old source code! The second is
just utterly stupid, there is no reason to do anything with the overflow
bit doing LOGICAL shifts (not arithmetic). This has to be a bug. Now I'm
glad I didn't go redesigning anything for the V4 coldfire...

Even so, the fact remains that we have run out of 68k CPUs for the time
being. We can whine about not having 68070 etc, or we can change the
software that keeps being incompatible. It doesn't take much to figure out
which one is the more doable.

Nasta




Re: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos

At 06:28 ìì 3/1/2002 +, you wrote:


> >
> > From: Thierry Godefroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu 03/Jan/2002 16:06 GMT
> > To: ql-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be 
> lea rned) Love Live QLs
> >
> > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:27:56 - , Norman Dunbar wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
> >
> > Apart from being slowest than Win95,
>
>My experience is that as long as you ahve at least 128Mb of memory then 
>Win2K outperformas any of the Win9x variants.

True 100% (And I do have 256 Megs)


> > more bloated (if at all
> > possible) and giving you no way to run in TRUE DOS (a MUST on
> > desktop PCs for QXL !), nothing is wrong...
>
>This point I have to give you!

Not true since NT/2K really allows you dual booting on the same drive with 
REAL dos (even FreeDos) which is by far better than the pi**ing around they 
call dos under Windows 9x


> >
> > > Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
> > > We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.
> >
> > It may run "nicely", this is not to say that it makes a good usage
> > of the machine ressources: re-install Win95 and compare the speeds
> > of the same software under both OSes: you will be _amazed_ by the
> > speed difference...
>
>My laptop is is dual boot (with the OS in separate partitions so they do 
>not interfer with each other).   The performance under Win2K is noticeably 
>faster than under Win95.   I do have 256Mb of memory on the machine and I 
>think Win2K makes better use of extra memory than Win9x.

You GOT to see the DOS C68 version compiling under CMD ;-))

>Dave Walker
>
>
>
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Re: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread dave


> 
> From: Thierry Godefroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu 03/Jan/2002 16:06 GMT
> To: ql-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) 
>Love Live QLs
> 
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:27:56 - , Norman Dunbar wrote:
> 
> > Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
> 
> Apart from being slowest than Win95,

My experience is that as long as you ahve at least 128Mb of memory then Win2K 
outperformas any of the Win9x variants.

> more bloated (if at all
> possible) and giving you no way to run in TRUE DOS (a MUST on
> desktop PCs for QXL !), nothing is wrong...

This point I have to give you!

> 
> > Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
> > We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.
> 
> It may run "nicely", this is not to say that it makes a good usage
> of the machine ressources: re-install Win95 and compare the speeds
> of the same software under both OSes: you will be _amazed_ by the
> speed difference...

My laptop is is dual boot (with the OS in separate partitions so they do not interfer 
with each other).   The performance under Win2K is noticeably faster than under Win95. 
  I do have 256Mb of memory on the machine and I think Win2K makes better use of extra 
memory than Win9x.

Dave Walker



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Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread Dexter



On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, ZN wrote:

> the PCB design leaves a LOT to be desired. It seems that whoever did it is
> not very experienced. IMHO the board could have been 2/3 or even half the
> size.

The designer actually said on the site that it was a prototype board and
wasn't optimized for size or cost, and that they could easily reduce the
size by that amount...

Just being fair...

Does anyone here have any experience with Eagle v4? What package do you
folks over at Q60 HQ use?

Dave





Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Graf

Hi Nasta,

>> I'm sorry, but I must destroy any hopes that Coldfire CPU's
>> (version > 1) could execute our existing QL software. Not even
>> the new announced ones with better 68k compatibility. Important
>> instructions which behave different to 68k can not (generally)
>> be identified or trapped out by a Coldfire CPU, in order to
>> emulate them correctly. Absolutely not.
>
>I would very much appreciate if you could give us some more details on
>this.

Two examples for CF V4e:

- mov.b xxx,-(sp)' adjusts the stack pointer by -1
- lsl and lsr set the overflow bit to the same as the carry bit

Both can not be forced to trap out. What a stupidity.
No way code on the CF core can solve this in general.
(Except emulating the whole 68k CPU, of course.)

Bye, Peter





Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread ZN

On 1/3/02 at 2:58 PM Peter Graf wrote:

>>I thought this free Coldfire hardware design might be useful.
>>It looks like a PC104 graphics card should plug in.
>
>Thanks. It is indeed interesting. But unfortunately of no use
>for running QL software.

Agreed. Wrong ColdFire. Actually, it would be possible to get QL software
to work but it would be quite problematic, and not very competitive in
performance. Using a 5407 would help that, even so, it is NOT possible to
emulate anything more than a 68000 with it. If MMU capability is needed,
for now we are limited to 68040 or 68060. That may change with the ColdFire
V4e and later with V5.

>Simple designs around such Coldfire chips are relatively easy,
>especially without graphics. (The Q40 and Q60 designs were
>magnitudes more challenging.)

Exactly. The 'toast' is what I would call 'connect the dots' designing. Any
decent designer could knock one of those up with his/her left foot. Also,
the PCB design leaves a LOT to be desired. It seems that whoever did it is
not very experienced. IMHO the board could have been 2/3 or even half the
size.

> I'm sorry, but I must destroy any hopes that Coldfire CPU's
> (version > 1) could execute our existing QL software. Not even
> the new announced ones with better 68k compatibility. Important
> instructions which behave different to 68k can not (generally)
> be identified or trapped out by a Coldfire CPU, in order to
> emulate them correctly. Absolutely not.

I would very much appreciate if you could give us some more details on
this.

Nasta




Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Thierry Godefroy

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:27:56 - , Norman Dunbar wrote:

> Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?

Apart from being slowest than Win95, more bloated (if at all
possible) and giving you no way to run in TRUE DOS (a MUST on
desktop PCs for QXL !), nothing is wrong...

> Win956 is way too flakey for anything

95 OSR2, once patched appropriately with all bugfixes available
from Microsoft site, is CERTAINLY more stable than 98 or 2K,
stable enough anyway to run QPC2 (which is the ONLY reason why
I keep Win95 on my laptop knowadays... if only QPC2 could run
under Linux !!!).

> - 'real' Windows programmers

Beware, with the "real" word, under Windoze (and more exactly with
Intel CPUs), this word has several "unreal" meanings... ;-)

> refer to it as Windows Play Station due to its inability to be
> used for anything other than games.

This is perfect then, because this is exactly for what I use Win95
on my desktop computer !

> Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
> We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.

It may run "nicely", this is not to say that it makes a good usage
of the machine ressources: re-install Win95 and compare the speeds
of the same software under both OSes: you will be _amazed_ by the
speed difference...

Well, let's go back on topic (QDOS/SMS stuff for those who forgot
what the topic was ;-), my wish list for 2002 is:

- for Marcel: QPC 2 (or 3, or 4...) for Linux.
- for Peter : a Q60/100MHz laptop.

And YES, I still believe in Santa Claus !   ;-)

QDOS/SMS forever !

Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).



RE: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Norman Dunbar

>> Win956 ? I think I miss something ;-)
Oops, my typo :o(

Norman.

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RE: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be lea rned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Claude Mourier 00

Win956 ? I think I miss something ;-)
I run QPC2 on WinME now and I have no more problems than with W98 (that is
far lesser than with virii from Internet).
Why WME got such a bad reputation ?
Upgrading PC from end user like me includes getting the OS onboard (and
there is no more genuine CD, only machine specific software, only for that
make) and this is the only way to get more speed : and Athlon 1.2 gives me
under QPC 4 times the speed of previous K6/300, as expected, more memorys
and huge disk space allowing QXLwin backup directly on disk or on CD

Claude

-Message d'origine-
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Envoyé : jeudi 3 janvier 2002 16:28
À : '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Objet : RE: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be
lea rned) Love Live QLs


Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
Win956 is way too flakey for anything - 'real' Windows programmers refer to
it as Windows Play Station due to its inability to be used for anything
other than games.

Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.

Puzzled or Bradford  :o)

Norman.




RE: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be learned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Norman Dunbar

Well, I'm running QPC2v2 on Win2k - what's wrong with it ?
Win956 is way too flakey for anything - 'real' Windows programmers refer to
it as Windows Play Station due to its inability to be used for anything
other than games.

Or is it (sorry, the Win2k stuff) only for Laptops ?
We have a couple of Compaq Evos which run Win2k very nicely.

Puzzled or Bradford  :o)

Norman.

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From: Thierry Godefroy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be
learned) Love Live QLs

or 2K Pro

Not even Win2K: better stay with Win95 OSR2 (only for running QPC2 of course
! ;-)
and/or go the Linux way !!!

QDOS/SMS forever !

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Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be learned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Thierry Godefroy

On Thu, 03 Jan 2002 09:07:10 -0500, Phoebus R. Dokos wrote:

> DO not install XP on a laptop if you do not have AT LEAST 256 Megs of Ram. 
> It will crawl like a snail. It will work alright but it will be REALLY 
> slow better stay with either NT (if you don't require USB ports) or 2K Pro

Not even Win2K: better stay with Win95 OSR2 (only for running QPC2 of course ! ;-)
and/or go the Linux way !!!

QDOS/SMS forever !

Thierry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).



Re: [ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be learned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos

At 05:29 ðì 3/1/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>Hi Phoebus
>
>Sorry about your PC crash. Same with me. Nothing remains but a hard disk
>formatted.

Sorry about you too... I just hope it doesn't happen again to either of us 
anytime soon (Great Expectations.:-)   )

>I think to install W-XP which seems OK on a laptop. Hope I can install it
>in my unexpert way.
>If they give a startup floppy with the CD should work. (right?)

DO not install XP on a laptop if you do not have AT LEAST 256 Megs of Ram. 
It will crawl like a snail. It will work alright but it will be REALLY 
slow better stay with either NT (if you don't require USB ports) or 2K Pro

>OH for QL connections to Internet and email! Could 2002 be the lucky year
>for that?

The time is here now (provided you have a SLIP connection to the net :-) 
... Just ask Jon Dent :-)


>Happy New Year.
>
>Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Switzerland
>e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tel. 41227581410
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Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos

At 11:28 ðì 3/1/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi
>
>I thought this free Coldfire hardware design might be useful.
>It looks like a PC104 graphics card should plug in.
>
>http://www.freeio.org/library/toast.htm
>

Hmmm what about their names though huh? Their name would be best known as 
www.breakfast.org  :-)





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Re: [ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Graf

Hi Malcolm,

>I thought this free Coldfire hardware design might be useful.
>It looks like a PC104 graphics card should plug in.

Thanks. It is indeed interesting. But unfortunately of no use
for running QL software.

E.g. at home I have a more advanced Coldfire board, which includes
ISA slot and DRAM as well. Simple designs around such Coldfire
chips are relatively easy, especially without graphics.
(The Q40 and Q60 designs were magnitudes more challenging.)

I'm sorry, but I must destroy any hopes that Coldfire CPU's
(version > 1) could execute our existing QL software. Not even
the new announced ones with better 68k compatibility. Important
instructions which behave different to 68k can not (generally)
be identified or trapped out by a Coldfire CPU, in order to
emulate them correctly. Absolutely not.

Additionally, available QL hardware outperforms any Coldfire
board emulating 68k code. So even *if* we accepted incompatibility
and crashes of a lot of software, we'd have no overall performace
advantage. This status is likely to remain for at least about two years.

All the best

Peter





[ql-users] Interesting Site

2002-01-03 Thread Malcolm Lear

Hi

I thought this free Coldfire hardware design might be useful.
It looks like a PC104 graphics card should plug in.

http://www.freeio.org/library/toast.htm





[ql-users] Happy New Year (and with a BITTER lesson to be learned) Love Live QLs

2002-01-03 Thread ian pizer

Hi Phoebus

Sorry about your PC crash. Same with me. Nothing remains but a hard disk
formatted.
I think to install W-XP which seems OK on a laptop. Hope I can install it
in my unexpert way.
If they give a startup floppy with the CD should work. (right?)

OH for QL connections to Internet and email! Could 2002 be the lucky year
for that?

Happy New Year.

Ian Pizer, 49 ch. Machery, 1292 Chambesy, Switzerland
e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tel. 41227581410