Re: ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

[Johan Almqvist]

* Alex Pennace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010601 04:25]:
> http://www.orbs.org/ says "Due to circumstances beyond our control,
> the ORBS website is no longer available."

http://www.dorkslayers.com/ seems to be the successor in some ways. But
the first statement

"It is our intention to never list IP addresses which have any of the
following characteristics:
- a physical location within the United States of America (USA)
[...]"

makes me wonder a bit...

-Johan
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disclaimer at end of outgoing msg

[arjen]

Hi,

i wanna append a disclaimer on every outgoing msg that contains
@mydomain.com. I looked at qmail-qfilter, but I cannot get the thing to
work. 

I patched a clean qmail src, added the indicated envvar and wrote a 
perl script for outgoing mail to pass through.

Anyone got this thing to work for a disclaimer? Any other possibilities?

Thnx in advance. 


Grtz, 

Arjen.

Re: recipient limit for qmail-inject?

[Roger Walker]

On 1 Jun 2001, Mark Delany wrote:

> There is no practical limit. Perhaps one qmail-inject per 50,000
> recipients? I certainly would go a *lot* higher than your current
> 40-100.

Hmm. That makes for a *VERY* long line *8-() I guess I should
have the script build the recipient list like so for simplicity:

BCC:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Remember, each inject creates a separate copy of the email in the
> queue. At 100 recipients per inject, that's 650,000/100 = 6,500 copies
> on disk. At 50,000 recipients per inject, that's 650,000/50,000 = 13
> copies on disk.

The interesting thing is that even though InterMail batches 40-100
recipients per message, the message store only keeps one copy of the
message (for local deliveries) and all recipients get a link to it
**PROVIDIING** the message-id is the same for each message.

> > I specifically require that every message on a particular mailout
> > have an identical , due to the storage setup on the receiving
> > Intermail system - saves on disk space.
>
> Easy, just set the message-id in the header of the submitted
> email. qmail-inject only adds a message-id if one is not present.

I actually tested for that before sending the original message. I
only mentioned the requirement because the goal is to simplify the mail
out process (most/all recipients are on the InterMail system). The setup
is actually time consuming compared with what would be required with
Qmail, so I'd like to set up a Linux box with Qmail as the MTA because the
setup would require much less handling.

Thanks for the response.

-- 
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Voice/Fax 1-780-440-2685 
"HIS Pain; YOUR Gain"

Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Russell Nelson]

Karsten W. Rohrbach writes:
 > qmail indirectly contains instrumentation for that. it is called remote
 > concurreny.

Alas, no.  What it actually does is limit the number of connections,
in the hope that the machine will not use a lot of bandwidth.  But
then, really, all you're doing is relying on the machine and
connection to run slowly enough that it doesn't start just as many
sessions per unit of time.

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the same username and different of domain qustion?

[george]

Hello all:
  I want to use virtual domain function in qmail1+mysql.I don't know how to setup when 
have two users the same username and different domain. and how flow qmail data ?

Example:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

how to insert record in user table ,alias table ,rcpthost table and virtual table ?

Please help me.
Thank you!

ORBS, and RFC-ignorant blacklists

[Alex Pennace]

http://www.orbs.org/ says "Due to circumstances beyond our control,
the ORBS website is no longer available."

http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/ is an RBL-like blacklist of domains that
think RFC conformance is for wimps. Currently they list domains that
refuse mail from <> (null sender) and refuse mail to postmaster@.

rfc-ignorant.org uses a blacklist style similar to RBL. To check if
163.net doesn't support <> return paths:

alex@buick:~$ dnsip 163.net.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
127.0.0.2 
alex@buick:~$ dnstxt 163.net.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
Not supporting null originator (DSN)

To check if 978.org doesn't support <> return paths:

alex@buick:~$ dnsip 978.org.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org

alex@buick:~$ dnstxt 978.org.dsn.rfc-ignorant.org

Zone transfers for dsn.rfc-ignorant.org was denied by ns1.megacity.org
but accepted by ns1.pyrotechnics.com. Zone transfers for
postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org were accepted by ns1.pyrotechnics.com.

With dnsip and some string manipulation against $SENDER it should be
trivial to implement a blacklist check in a dot-qmail file. I recommend
this, the choice to use any particular blacklist should be made by the
user, not the system administrator.

rblstmpd can't support this kind of blacklist because it doesn't
support a full SMTP transaction, and the blacklist operates on return
path addresses, not client IP addresses. It should be possible to
patch qmail-smtp to support this blacklist, let [EMAIL PROTECTED]
know if you have something working.

Spite listings have been a problem with other blacklists, no word yet
about spite listings on rfc-ignorant.org.

Re: recipient limit for qmail-inject?

[Mark Delany]

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 06:59:07PM -0600, Roger Walker allegedly wrote:
>   On InterMail systems we use their mass mail program to send out
> some 650,000 newsletters to customers. The application batches them into
> a single message with a BCC containing somewhere between 40 and 100
> recipients each (not sure of the exact number at this time). I would like
> to do similar on a Qmail system.

Sounds good.

>   Would anyone know the limit for qmail-inject? Is there a practical
> limit? Is there another another recommended way of doing this?

There is no practical limit. Perhaps one qmail-inject per 50,000
recipients? I certainly would go a *lot* higher than your current
40-100.

Remember, each inject creates a separate copy of the email in the
queue. At 100 recipients per inject, that's 650,000/100 = 6,500 copies
on disk. At 50,000 recipients per inject, that's 650,000/50,000 = 13
copies on disk.


>   I specifically require that every message on a particular mailout
> have an identical , due to the storage setup on the receiving
> Intermail system - saves on disk space.

Easy, just set the message-id in the header of the submitted
email. qmail-inject only adds a message-id if one is not present.


Regards.

Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Mark Delany]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:38:04AM +0200, Karsten W. Rohrbach allegedly wrote:
> Mark Delany([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.31 22:32:26 +:
> > On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:13:56PM +0200, Roger Svenning allegedly wrote:
> > > Ok I see, so traffic shapers like altq and dummynet are made by people that
> > > don't understand the basics of tcp/ip ? :-)
> > > I didn't mean "blocked" literally, what I want is to make sure that smtp
> > > traffic, when qmail gets several thousand of mails dumped into it's queue,
> > > doesn't slow down http traffic too much, by putting some sort of a limit on
> > > qmail I want to avoid packetloss.
> > 
> > We understand what you want. Do you understand that qmail has no
> > facility for doing this? The only way is to use a traffic shaper
> > external to qmail.
> qmail indirectly contains instrumentation for that. it is called remote
> concurreny.

No it doesn't.

> you might
> echo 2>/var/qmail/contro/concurrencyremote && svc -t /service/qmail
> which would limit the running qmail-remote processes to two which leads
> to less bandwidth consumption for outgoing mail.

Not necessarily and certainly not predicatably.

Tell me what happens with the following scenarioes:

Scenario one:

You have a concurrencyremote of 1

You have one email in the queue

That email is MXed to a yahoo.com address which has perhaps
a 1Gb or more of inbound connectivity

That email is 100MBytes in size

A qmail-remote is scheduled to delivery the email


Scenario two:

You have a concurrencyremote of 100

You have 100 emails in the queue

All emails are address to a dinky.connectivity.com. that
has perhaps 14.4Kb of inbound connectivity

Each email is 1MB in size

A qmail-remote is scheduled for every message in the queue


Question 1: What is the likely bandwidth consumption during delivery
for Scenario one?

Question 2: What is the likely bandwidth consumption during delivery
for Scenario two?


Bonus question: what part of qmail do you change to reduce the
bandwidth consumption for Scenario one?


Regards.

recipient limit for qmail-inject?

[Roger Walker]

On InterMail systems we use their mass mail program to send out
some 650,000 newsletters to customers. The application batches them into
a single message with a BCC containing somewhere between 40 and 100
recipients each (not sure of the exact number at this time). I would like
to do similar on a Qmail system.

Would anyone know the limit for qmail-inject? Is there a practical
limit? Is there another another recommended way of doing this?

I specifically require that every message on a particular mailout
have an identical , due to the storage setup on the receiving
Intermail system - saves on disk space.

Thanks for any help/suggestions.

-- 
Roger Walker 
Voice/Fax 1-780-440-2685 
"HIS Pain; YOUR Gain"

Re: smtp on a specific IP

[Karsten W. Rohrbach]

Ross Davis - Data Anywhere([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.31 12:36:58 +:
> My server is running vpopmail.  I also have Multiple IP address' aliased off
> of one network card.
> 
> I can do traffic analysis through my router by IP address and this works
> fine for incoming mail.  The problem that I have is the outgoing mail all is
> going out through one IP.  I need to be able to charge my customers for
> traffic.
> 
> Is there any way to make different domains send out on their own IP address?
> 
> here is my smtpd run from the supervise directory
>  /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
> env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
> tcpserver -v -p -u vpopmail -g vchkpw 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
^
this is the address to bind to. 
http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html

cheers
/k

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Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Karsten W. Rohrbach]

Mark Delany([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.05.31 22:32:26 +:
> On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:13:56PM +0200, Roger Svenning allegedly wrote:
> > Ok I see, so traffic shapers like altq and dummynet are made by people that
> > don't understand the basics of tcp/ip ? :-)
> > I didn't mean "blocked" literally, what I want is to make sure that smtp
> > traffic, when qmail gets several thousand of mails dumped into it's queue,
> > doesn't slow down http traffic too much, by putting some sort of a limit on
> > qmail I want to avoid packetloss.
> 
> We understand what you want. Do you understand that qmail has no
> facility for doing this? The only way is to use a traffic shaper
> external to qmail.
qmail indirectly contains instrumentation for that. it is called remote
concurreny.
you might
echo 2>/var/qmail/contro/concurrencyremote && svc -t /service/qmail
which would limit the running qmail-remote processes to two which leads
to less bandwidth consumption for outgoing mail.

/k

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Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[John R. Levine]

>I think you misread what I wrote...we're using cyrus, not courier ;-(

I rolled my own smtp after pop/imap setup.  It's really easy.

There's a 94 line daemon written in perl (running under supervise, of
course) that makes a named pipe and then reads lines from it in the
form "IP 22.33.44.55" that tell it when someone's logged in, and
updates the cdb file that the smtp tcpserver uses to control relay.

I use courier and rather than try to stuff a shim into the
authentication, I just hacked the code into courier's pop and imap
login routines, adding three lines to each to open the named pipe,
write out the IP that just logged in, and close the pipe.  I haven't
looked at the code, but it's unlikely that it'd be difficult to make a
similar change to Cyrus.

If you want the daemon, you're welcome to it.  It also handles a file
of fixed relay addresses for hosts on the local network and ages
relays out after about an hour.



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Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Mark Delany]

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 11:13:56PM +0200, Roger Svenning allegedly wrote:
> Ok I see, so traffic shapers like altq and dummynet are made by people that
> don't understand the basics of tcp/ip ? :-)
> I didn't mean "blocked" literally, what I want is to make sure that smtp
> traffic, when qmail gets several thousand of mails dumped into it's queue,
> doesn't slow down http traffic too much, by putting some sort of a limit on
> qmail I want to avoid packetloss.

We understand what you want. Do you understand that qmail has no
facility for doing this? The only way is to use a traffic shaper
external to qmail.


Regards.

> 
> -Roger
> 
> -Opprinnelig melding-
> Fra: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sendt: 31. mai 2001 22:25
> Til: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Emne: Re: Limiting bandwidth usage
> 
> 
> Roger Svenning writes:
>  > > Anyone have some advice on how to limit the bandwidth usage for qmail ?
>  > > 
>  > > We have a mail/web server sitting on a 2mbit and several times a week
> we
>  > > need to push out 3+ mails and don't want this to totally block the
> web
>  > > traffic to the same server.
> 
> You don't understand how TCP/IP works.  A sustained load through a
> network doesn't cause anybody to be blocked.  It causes their
> transfers to slow down.  TCP/IP interprets a lossy connection as an
> overloaded connection.  That's why your IP connection must only lose
> packets when it is congested.
> 
> -- 
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets
> everything.
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose
> screws.
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Re: qmail-remote

[Charles Cazabon]

Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have one domain that I end up getting a loop in. Or I am guessing it is a 
> loop.

I think you're guessing incorrectly.  How about not guessing at all, and
showing us the log entries of what is happening?

> What happens is that this one domain will get into my Que and will not
> deliever.  So I end up with 60+ e-mails for this one domain in my Que. How
> can I del all these without restarting the system. If I reboot they will go
> away.

No, they won't.  That's the whole point of the queue.  qmail will retry the
deliveries of those messages for up to a week.  If it hasn't suceeded by then,
it will bounce the message back to the original sender.

> For somereason they don't timeout. that is why I think it is a loop being
> generated.  I know that killall -ALRM qmail-send will force the que to try
> again, but how can I kill qmail-remote's?

You shouldn't have to kill qmail-remote.  Have you truss/strace/ktrace'd the
problematic qmail-remote processes?  Have you captured the network traffic to
see what is happening?  Have you pinpointed what remote systems are
problematic?  Again, show us logs of this happening.  Otherwise, we have no
idea what's wrong.

Charles
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Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Roger Svenning]

Ok I see, so traffic shapers like altq and dummynet are made by people that
don't understand the basics of tcp/ip ? :-)
I didn't mean "blocked" literally, what I want is to make sure that smtp
traffic, when qmail gets several thousand of mails dumped into it's queue,
doesn't slow down http traffic too much, by putting some sort of a limit on
qmail I want to avoid packetloss.

-Roger

-Opprinnelig melding-
Fra: Russell Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 31. mai 2001 22:25
Til: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Emne: Re: Limiting bandwidth usage


Roger Svenning writes:
 > > Anyone have some advice on how to limit the bandwidth usage for qmail ?
 > > 
 > > We have a mail/web server sitting on a 2mbit and several times a week
we
 > > need to push out 3+ mails and don't want this to totally block the
web
 > > traffic to the same server.

You don't understand how TCP/IP works.  A sustained load through a
network doesn't cause anybody to be blocked.  It causes their
transfers to slow down.  TCP/IP interprets a lossy connection as an
overloaded connection.  That's why your IP connection must only lose
packets when it is congested.

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Re: 452_Insufficient_system_storage

[Paul A. Cheshire]

Tom Beer [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] asserted:
> Hi,
[...]

> be delivered, because there is insuffiscent system stroage. But why don't I
> get an
> mail that the messages bounces, or would not be delivered, and how can I
> accomplish to get a mail?
> 
[...]
I believe the key here is:

> @40003b15d6ed1942ed34 delivery 594: deferral:
The message delivery is deferred till the next attempt as the error is
considered a temporary one. If all attempts fail then you should receive the
usual "I'm sorry" message detailing the failure.

HTH
;-}

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vmailmgr pop pop3d logging with multilog

[Joe Janitor]

I have qmail + vmailmgr set up and working, qmail pop accesses are 
being logged via daemontools and multilog and end up in 
/var/log/qmail/pop3d/current. 
i can get  /etc/vmailmgr/checkvpw-postexec
to write to a file (/tmp/vm), but I can't make its output show up in 
the pop3d
logs via multilog (by changing the >> /tmp/vm to >&2 as suggested in 
the archives of the vmailmgr list ). 

I expect lines like this:

Thu May 31 12:19:43 EDT 2001 /etc/vmailmgr/checkvpw-postexec u:janitors 
v:joe m:./users/joe
h:/home/janitors

to show up in /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current ... am i looking in the 
wrong place?

Here are what my files look like:

/etc/vmailmgr/checkvpw-postexec :
#!/bin/sh
echo `date` $0 $1 $2 u:$USER v:$VUSER m:$MAILDIR h:$HOME >&2
echo `date` $0 $1 $2 u:$USER v:$VUSER m:$MAILDIR h:$HOME >> /tmp/vm

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/run :
#!/bin/sh
/usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 200 \
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup \
FQDN /usr/local/bin/checkvpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d  
Mailbox/ 2>&1

/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/log :
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/setuidgid qmaill /usr/local/bin/multilog t 
/var/log/qmail/pop3d



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qmail-remote

[Dale]

I have one domain that I end up getting a loop in. Or I am guessing it is a 
loop.
What happens is that this one domain will get into my Que and will not 
deliever.
So I end up with 60+ e-mails for this one domain in my Que. How can I del 
all these
without restarting the system. If I reboot they will go away.
For somereason they don't timeout. that is why I think it is a loop being 
generated.
I know that killall -ALRM qmail-send will force the que to try again, but 
how can I kill qmail-remote's?

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Tupshin Harper]

I think you misread what I wrote...we're using cyrus, not courier ;-(

-Tupshin

- Original Message -
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Dynamic allow of relay


> Tupshin Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As much as this is mostly a FAQ, I would appreciate suggestions for my
> > particular situation.  My need is to support mobile employees who's
laptops
> > are sometimes connected to the internal LAN and sometimes dial up to an
ISP.
> > The possibilities I've looked at so far consist of:
> >
> > 1) use relay-ctrl or something similar, but since we're 100% IMAP, and
use
> > Cyrus instead of Courier, I'm not aware of a solution that works.
>
> Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl works as both an SMTP-after-POP3 solution (with
> qmail-smtpd) and an SMTP-after-IMAP solution (with Courier IMAP).  You're
> covered.
>
> > Anything I'm overlooking?
>
> Just that relay-ctrl already works with Courier IMAP.
>
> Charles
> --
> ---
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> GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> ---
>

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Charles Cazabon]

Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 1) use relay-ctrl or something similar, but since we're 100% IMAP, and use
> > Cyrus instead of Courier, I'm not aware of a solution that works.

Obviously I misread the "Cyrus instead of ..." part.  Is there anything
preventing you from switching from Cyrus to Courier?  I'm not very familiar
with Cyrus' IMAP server, so I don't know how easy it would be to plug
relay-ctrl in.

Charles
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Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Charles Cazabon]

Roger Svenning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Anyone have some advice on how to limit the bandwidth usage for qmail ?

Look into a traffic shaper for your OS, or for your router/firewall.  You can
then precisely control the maximum bandwidth mail traffic will use.

A less-precise method is simply limiting concurrencyremote to a reasonable
number; SMTP is latency bound to some degree, and lowering the concurrency
will limit bandwidth usage, but not in a particularly predictable manner.

Charles
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Re: Limiting bandwidth usage

[Russell Nelson]

Roger Svenning writes:
 > > Anyone have some advice on how to limit the bandwidth usage for qmail ?
 > > 
 > > We have a mail/web server sitting on a 2mbit and several times a week we
 > > need to push out 3+ mails and don't want this to totally block the web
 > > traffic to the same server.

You don't understand how TCP/IP works.  A sustained load through a
network doesn't cause anybody to be blocked.  It causes their
transfers to slow down.  TCP/IP interprets a lossy connection as an
overloaded connection.  That's why your IP connection must only lose
packets when it is congested.

-- 
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qmail-popbull used w/ imap

[michael]

This question I suppose is directed at Russell since he is the 
writer of qmail-popbull...

We're trying to get courier-imap running and the desire is to
also have bulletin ability.  Since qmail-popbull is called as
part of tcpserver startup for qmail I'm hoping it can be 
inserted into the startup string for imap.  Can anyone think
of a reason why it wouldn't be able to be done?  I'd check
it out now, but am still working on getting checkpassword
converted for use w/ courier-imap since it appears to need
a few extra environment variables set.  I'd rather not have 
to add that functionality into a new piece of code.

Thanks,

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Charles Cazabon]

Tupshin Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As much as this is mostly a FAQ, I would appreciate suggestions for my
> particular situation.  My need is to support mobile employees who's laptops
> are sometimes connected to the internal LAN and sometimes dial up to an ISP.
> The possibilities I've looked at so far consist of:
> 
> 1) use relay-ctrl or something similar, but since we're 100% IMAP, and use
> Cyrus instead of Courier, I'm not aware of a solution that works.

Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl works as both an SMTP-after-POP3 solution (with
qmail-smtpd) and an SMTP-after-IMAP solution (with Courier IMAP).  You're
covered.

> Anything I'm overlooking?

Just that relay-ctrl already works with Courier IMAP.

Charles
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Limiting bandwidth usage

[Roger Svenning]

> Anyone have some advice on how to limit the bandwidth usage for qmail ?
> 
> We have a mail/web server sitting on a 2mbit and several times a week we
> need to push out 3+ mails and don't want this to totally block the web
> traffic to the same server.
> 
> The system is FreeBSD 4.3 btw.
> 
> Roger O. Svenning

smtp on a specific IP

[Ross Davis - Data Anywhere]

My server is running vpopmail.  I also have Multiple IP address' aliased off
of one network card.

I can do traffic analysis through my router by IP address and this works
fine for incoming mail.  The problem that I have is the outgoing mail all is
going out through one IP.  I need to be able to charge my customers for
traffic.

Is there any way to make different domains send out on their own IP address?

here is my smtpd run from the supervise directory
 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin" \
tcpserver -v -p -u vpopmail -g vchkpw 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Tupshin Harper]

As much as this is mostly a FAQ, I would appreciate suggestions for my
particular situation.  My need is to support mobile employees who's laptops
are sometimes connected to the internal LAN and sometimes dial up to an ISP.
The possibilities I've looked at so far consist of:

1) use relay-ctrl or something similar, but since we're 100% IMAP, and use
Cyrus instead of Courier, I'm not aware of a solution that works.

2) Have all mobile employees establish a VPN to a DMZ whose block of IPs is
allowed to relay.  This is probably the final and best solution, but I can't
implement it yet due to infrastructure reasons, and complications involving
different OSes including MacOS.

3) Apply the SMTP-AUTH patch. (leading contender for temporary solution).

Any comments or suggestions.

Anything I'm overlooking?

-Tupshin

- Original Message -
From: "Russell Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: Dynamic allow of relay


> Charles Cazabon writes:
>  > Mark Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > Is there a way to setup qmail such that it will dynamically allow
relay
>  > > hosts based on their previous login to the qmail-pop3d?
>  >
>  > Yes, and there's several implementations available.  See qmail.org for
>  > details, and read the mailing list archives; there are hundreds of
messages
>  > discussing the various methods.  I favour Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl.
>
> Me too, even over mine.
>
> --
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets
everything.
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose
screws.
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.
>

Re: Pop3/recordio extraneous characters

[David Gartner]

Charles,

I took your suggestions and changed the line to:

tcpserver -c 50 0 pop3 recordio /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.meckcom.net
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
2>>/root/recordio.crap &

and it now works perfectly!  Thanks much :)

David Gartner

Charles Cazabon wrote:

> David Gartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hey all.  I'm trying to achieve minimal logging for pop3.  Many of you
> > > > suggested using 'recordio' with tcpserver.  I tried that, and it has
> > > > EXACTLY the logging I need, however, I do have a slight problem.  When
> > > > you do recordio, you get lots of extraneous characters.
> > >
> > > You're not supposed to get them.  The extra characters you showed,
> > > apparently ending up in the session itself, are supposed to go to a log
> > > instead.  How are you invoking tcpserver/recordio/qmail-pop3d?  Give us
> > > copies of your scripts.  Probably there's a good in them somewhere.
> >
> > Here's what I use to invoke tcpserver
> >
> > tcpserver -c 50 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.mydomain.com recordio
> > /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
>
> Hmmm.  I would have thought recordio should come immediately before
> qmail-popup (else you won't capture the login information), but I don't know
> that for sure.  The other thing is that recordio outputs to stderr (fd2).  So
> where is fd2 going above?  Nowhere that I can see.  Perhaps adding
> "2>>/foo/log" before "&" would help?
>
> Charles
> --
> ---
> Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> ---

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Russell Nelson]

Charles Cazabon writes:
 > Mark Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > > Is there a way to setup qmail such that it will dynamically allow relay
 > > hosts based on their previous login to the qmail-pop3d?
 > 
 > Yes, and there's several implementations available.  See qmail.org for
 > details, and read the mailing list archives; there are hundreds of messages
 > discussing the various methods.  I favour Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl.

Me too, even over mine.

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Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

R: Dynamic allow of relay

[Andrea Cerrito]

Title: Dynamic allow of relay



Yes, 
it's called realy-ctrl.
If 
you're using vpopmail, there is an option to allow it.
 
Have a 
look on qmail home page.
---Cordiali saluti / Best regardsAndrea 
Cerrito^^Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni 
S.p.A.P.zzale Bosco 3A05100 Terni ITTel. +39 744 5441330Fax. +39 
744 5441372 

  -Messaggio originale-Da: Mark Douglas 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Inviato: giovedì 31 maggio 2001 
  18.50A: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Oggetto: Dynamic allow of 
  relay
  Is there a way to setup qmail such that it will 
  dynamically allow relay hosts based on their previous login to the 
  qmail-pop3d? Namezero has their mail servers set up this way, so that as long 
  as you've checked your mail within the last 10 minutes from that IP, you can 
  use the server to send mail through. My mail server is not local to my 
  workstations, and the workstations are on a DSL PPPoE connection which changes 
  ip's every time I connect. Making a setup like this would greatly simplify how 
  things work for me. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this?
  Mark Douglas - 
  Architecture Sympatico-Lycos Inc. All your base are belong to us! Make your time! 

Re: Dynamic allow of relay

[Charles Cazabon]

Mark Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to setup qmail such that it will dynamically allow relay
> hosts based on their previous login to the qmail-pop3d?

Yes, and there's several implementations available.  See qmail.org for
details, and read the mailing list archives; there are hundreds of messages
discussing the various methods.  I favour Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl.

Charles
-- 
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---

Re: Pop3/recordio extraneous characters

[Charles Cazabon]

David Gartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hey all.  I'm trying to achieve minimal logging for pop3.  Many of you
> > > suggested using 'recordio' with tcpserver.  I tried that, and it has
> > > EXACTLY the logging I need, however, I do have a slight problem.  When
> > > you do recordio, you get lots of extraneous characters.
> >
> > You're not supposed to get them.  The extra characters you showed,
> > apparently ending up in the session itself, are supposed to go to a log
> > instead.  How are you invoking tcpserver/recordio/qmail-pop3d?  Give us
> > copies of your scripts.  Probably there's a good in them somewhere.
> 
> Here's what I use to invoke tcpserver
> 
> tcpserver -c 50 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.mydomain.com recordio
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &

Hmmm.  I would have thought recordio should come immediately before
qmail-popup (else you won't capture the login information), but I don't know
that for sure.  The other thing is that recordio outputs to stderr (fd2).  So
where is fd2 going above?  Nowhere that I can see.  Perhaps adding
"2>>/foo/log" before "&" would help?

Charles
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---

Dynamic allow of relay

[Mark Douglas]

Title: Dynamic allow of relay





Is there a way to setup qmail such that it will dynamically allow relay hosts based on their previous login to the qmail-pop3d? Namezero has their mail servers set up this way, so that as long as you've checked your mail within the last 10 minutes from that IP, you can use the server to send mail through. My mail server is not local to my workstations, and the workstations are on a DSL PPPoE connection which changes ip's every time I connect. Making a setup like this would greatly simplify how things work for me. Anyone have any ideas on how to do this?

Mark Douglas - Architecture
Sympatico-Lycos Inc.
All your base are belong to us! Make your time!

Re: Pop3/recordio extraneous characters

[David Gartner]

Charles,

Here's what I use to invoke tcpserver

tcpserver -c 50 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup mail.mydomain.com recordio
/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
tcpserver -p -x /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u100 -g501 0 smtp
/usr/bin/rblsmtpd -t30 -rrbl.maps.vix.com /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &



Charles Cazabon wrote:

> David Gartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey all.  I'm trying to achieve minimal logging for pop3.  Many of you
> > suggested using 'recordio' with tcpserver.  I tried that, and it has
> > EXACTLY the logging I need, however, I do have a slight problem.  When
> > you do recordio, you get lots of extraneous characters.
>
> You're not supposed to get them.  The extra character you showed, apparently
> ending up in the session itself, are supposed to go to a log instead.
> How are you invoking tcpserver/recordio/qmail-pop3d?  Give us copies of your
> scripts.  Probably there's a good in them somewhere.
>
> Charles
> --
> ---
> Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> ---

Qmail + Radius integration

[Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga]

Hi there,

Does anyone have any information/links/howtos about
Qmail+Radius+Proftpd+MySQL integration?

Recentlly I've posted a message about problems with 
vpopmail-radius patch, but got no answers.

Any help will be very appreciated.

BR,

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Eduardo Augusto Alvarenga - Analista de Suporte - #179653
Blumenau - Santa Catarina. Tel. (47) 9102-3303
   http://www.netron.com.br/~eduardo
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

vmailmgr as source-tarball

[Ruprecht Helms]

Hi,

I try to setup the administration-tool omail for qmailadministration.
The nessesary wmailmgr was an rpmfile with included php. After installation 
I havn't found that in the correct directory.

Does someone know of a source-tarball (prefered vmail as php-version) that 
enables a configuration for the htdocs-path, because of the phpfiles to run 
only here properly.

Regards,
Ruprecht

R: Single SMTP out server

[Andrea Cerrito]

Of course it is.
Just set the webservers to use the relay as the only relay (smtproutes) and
you've done!
If I remember well, something like *:ip-or-hostname-of-relay in
/var/qmail/control/smtproutes may do the trick.
---
Cordiali saluti / Best regards
Andrea Cerrito
^^
Net.Admin @ Centro MultiMediale di Terni S.p.A.
P.zzale Bosco 3A
05100 Terni IT
Tel. +39 744 5441330
Fax. +39 744 5441372

> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Brian Moon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Inviato: giovedì 31 maggio 2001 16.30
> A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Oggetto: Single SMTP out server
>
>
> Hi,
>
> We use PHP for our web site(s).  It has the mail() function which uses
> standard sendmail to send out mail.  We have qmail installed on all of our
> web servers nodes.  In addition we have a mail server running qmail of
> course.  What I would like to do is have qmail on all servers
> except the the
> mail server relay their mail through the mail server instead of sending it
> themselves.
>
> Is this possible with qmail?
>
> Brian Moon
> --
> dealnews.com, Inc.
> Makers of dealnews & dealmac
> http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/
>
>

Re: qmail-remote crashes(info from qmail-send logs)

[Charles Cazabon]

kamesh jayachandran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> qmail-remote is working fine when invoked separately.But it 
> crashes(according to log entries in the 
> /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current).mail also not reaches the destination.
> But it delivers the mails if it finds the smtproutes entry for the
> destination domain.

Sounds like your DNS resolver library is horribly broken.  strace/ktrace/truss
may be your best hope of confirming this.  Or talk to your OS vendor; they may
have a fix.

Charles
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---

Re: Pop3/recordio extraneous characters

[Charles Cazabon]

David Gartner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey all.  I'm trying to achieve minimal logging for pop3.  Many of you
> suggested using 'recordio' with tcpserver.  I tried that, and it has
> EXACTLY the logging I need, however, I do have a slight problem.  When
> you do recordio, you get lots of extraneous characters.

You're not supposed to get them.  The extra character you showed, apparently
ending up in the session itself, are supposed to go to a log instead.
How are you invoking tcpserver/recordio/qmail-pop3d?  Give us copies of your
scripts.  Probably there's a good in them somewhere.

Charles
-- 
---
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Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
---

Re: Return receipts on an SMTP relay machine...

[Charles Cazabon]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> This function is very, very good when you have a client that can't tell the
> sender that the message has been received. 

This is a fact of life -- SMTP is not designed to allow this.  If you want
100% confirmation that a message reached its final destination through email,
you have to phone the recipient and speak to them yourself.

Half-measures like this basically just waste bandwidth and provide false
peace-of-mind to users who don't know any better.

> An example is below. This is generated by sendmail. If I get two (one like
> this, and one from the receiving client), it OK.  I don't like to rely on
> the receivers ability to tell me that they have received the message.

Then perhaps you need something other than SMTP for messages.  UUCP, or have
them retrieve their messages from you via HTTP or something.  Then you can
check your UUCP or httpd logs to confirm message retrieval.

Charles
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---

Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Charles Cazabon]

Deen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I found a doc written by Paul Gregg title "Single-UID based POP3 box 
> HOWTO". (I don't remember the URL coz' I got a hard copy).
> 
> Has anyone successfully implemented his HOWTO yet ? There are things 
> that I do not understand in his HOWTO.

Various people have implemented single-UID POP3/IMAP virtual domains for
qmail.  vmailmgr does this.  I'm not sure if that's quite what you mean.

Charles
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---

Re: Single SMTP out server

[Henning Brauer]

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 09:29:38AM -0500, Brian Moon wrote:
> course.  What I would like to do is have qmail on all servers except the the
> mail server relay their mail through the mail server instead of sending it
> themselves.

echo ":your.main.mail.server" > /var/qmail/control/smtproutes

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(Dennis Ritchie)

Re: Please tele me every sub-directory meaning in /var/qmail/queue/ .

[Charles Cazabon]

george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   It have some sub-directory in /ar/qmail/queue directory .But I don't know
>   every directory content and meaning .

The file INTERNALS in the documentation included in the qmail tarball explains
what these directories are for.

Charles
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---

Re: how to configure autoreply for one mail user

[Charles Cazabon]

lemoninsz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
> one of my mail user is out of office,he want me to set up a autoreply
> message for him,how should i do?

Go to qmail.org and look for "autoresponder".

Charles
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---
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---

Migrating users

[Dave Weiner]

Ok, I'm just about done building my qmail/vpopmail/sqwebmail/courier-imap
cluster, and I find out that I need to migrate a bunch of users from Iplanet
to the new system.  Has anybody done this before?  Any tips, tricks or
pointers?


Dave W

RE: Single SMTP out server

[Hubbard, David]

Just put: sendmail_path=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
in your /usr/local/lib/php.ini file and your mail()
function will use qmail instead.

On all of your web servers, put ":1.2.3.4" in your
/var/qmail/control/smtproutes where the 1.2.3.4 is the
address of your relaying mail server.  They will now
forward all generated email to that address.

On the relaying mail server, you'll need to add each of
your web server IP addresses to the /etc/tcp.smtp file
to allow them to relay through.  It takes the format
2.3.4.5:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
Rebuild your /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb file afterward.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Brian Moon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Single SMTP out server


Hi,

We use PHP for our web site(s).  It has the mail() function which uses
standard sendmail to send out mail.  We have qmail installed on all of our
web servers nodes.  In addition we have a mail server running qmail of
course.  What I would like to do is have qmail on all servers except the the
mail server relay their mail through the mail server instead of sending it
themselves.

Is this possible with qmail?

Brian Moon
--
dealnews.com, Inc.
Makers of dealnews & dealmac
http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/

Re: Single SMTP out server

[Flavio Curti]

hi

just make a file 'smtproutes' in /var/qmail/control with 
:ipofmailserver
as content on all the webservers.

greetz & hope it helps

Flavio

On Thu, 31 May 2001 09:29:38 -0500 "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We use PHP for our web site(s).  It has the mail() function which uses
> standard sendmail to send out mail.  We have qmail installed on all of our
> web servers nodes.  In addition we have a mail server running qmail of
> course.  What I would like to do is have qmail on all servers except the the
> mail server relay their mail through the mail server instead of sending it
> themselves.
> 
> Is this possible with qmail?
> 
> Brian Moon
> --
> dealnews.com, Inc.
> Makers of dealnews & dealmac
> http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/
> 
> 
> 


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Re: forwarding msgs analyzing subject text

[Massimo Quintini]

Dear Russell

Fantastic.it works !

Thanks...thanks..and thanks again 

Massimo QUINTINI

Russell Nelson wrote:

> Massimo Quintini writes:
>  > Excuse me, but I have tried your solution but it don't works!
>
>  > |/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc `822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"`
>
> Doh!  Yes, of course that won't work.  condredirect wants a program to
> run, not a string.  Try it this way:
>
> |/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc /bin/sh -c '822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"'
>
> --
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> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything.
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws.
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

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RE: Return receipts on an SMTP relay machine...

[Peter . Fredriksson]

Dave,

This function is very, very good when you have a client that can't tell the
sender that the message has been received. 

An example is below. This is generated by sendmail. If I get two (one like
this, and one from the receiving client), it OK.
I don't like to rely on the receivers ability to tell me that they have
received the message.

"
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 21 maj 2001 14:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Return receipt


The original message was received at Mon, 21 May 2001 14:16:29 +0200 (CEST)
from dmz.skriptor.com [195.84.158.65]

   - The following addresses had successful delivery notifications -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  (relayed to non-DSN-aware mailer)

   - Transcript of session follows -
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... relayed; expect no further notifications
"

Any better suggestions then hacking? =)

With Best Regards,

Peter Fredriksson
Compu-Mark Nordic AB
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  +46-8-4417730
Fax:+46-8-6980909
ICQ#:   6166226


-Original Message-
From: Dave Sill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: den 31 maj 2001 15:51
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Return receipts on an SMTP relay machine...


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>After a mail had been relayed to the internet, sendmail sent a receipt back
>to the sender. I can't get qmail to do that.

Hmm. So Sendmail on your relay sent a message to the sender of each
message it relayed informing them of the fact that it'd relayed the
message? And you found this desirable? What if every relay on the net
starting doing that? You'd often get 4-5 relay notifications for each
message you send. What's the point?

>I have read qreceipt's man page, but that only seems to apply to users on
>the local machine. This machine only has root and a couple of daemon users.

Yes, qreceipt allows users to confirm final delivery to senders who
request confirmation. That's much more reasonable than what you're
asking for.

>I realize that I have to patch qreceipt to recognize Outlooks SMTP tag for
>receipts, but how do I do that?

If you really want to do that, I think you'll have to hack
qmail-scanner[1] or implement a custom filter[2].

-Dave

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/

[2]  http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/2142/fid/206

Re: forwarding msgs analyzing subject text

[Henning Brauer]

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 10:10:56AM -0400, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Massimo Quintini writes:
>  > Excuse me, but I have tried your solution but it don't works!
> 
>  > |/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc `822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"`
> 
> Doh!  Yes, of course that won't work.  condredirect wants a program to
> run, not a string.  Try it this way:
> 
> |/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc /bin/sh -c '822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"'

...and make sure you have DJB's mess822-package installed. 822field isn't
part of qmail.

-- 
* Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.bsws.de *
* Roedingsmarkt 14, 20459 Hamburg, Germany   *
Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity.
(Dennis Ritchie)

Single SMTP out server

[Brian Moon]

Hi,

We use PHP for our web site(s).  It has the mail() function which uses
standard sendmail to send out mail.  We have qmail installed on all of our
web servers nodes.  In addition we have a mail server running qmail of
course.  What I would like to do is have qmail on all servers except the the
mail server relay their mail through the mail server instead of sending it
themselves.

Is this possible with qmail?

Brian Moon
--
dealnews.com, Inc.
Makers of dealnews & dealmac
http://dealnews.com/ | http://dealmac.com/

Re: forwarding msgs analyzing subject text

[Russell Nelson]

Massimo Quintini writes:
 > Excuse me, but I have tried your solution but it don't works!

 > |/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc `822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"`

Doh!  Yes, of course that won't work.  condredirect wants a program to
run, not a string.  Try it this way:

|/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc /bin/sh -c '822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"'

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Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

Pop3/recordio extraneous characters

[David Gartner]

Hey all.  I'm trying to achieve minimal logging for pop3.  Many of you
suggested using 'recordio' with tcpserver.  I tried that, and it has
EXACTLY the logging I need, however, I do have a slight problem.  When
you do recordio, you get lots of extraneous characters.  Below are
examples of what I get without recordio and with recordio.  Normally, I
wouldn't care, but it freaks out netscape mail, outlook and make
evolution seg fault, so I'm kinda in a bind.  Anyone know how to make
recordio not but that junk in there?

WITHOUT recordio...

[root@mail(node1) init.d]# telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 192.168.6.12.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK <4440.991317705@mail>
user me
+OK
pass test
+OK
list
+OK
1 212
2 483
3 212
.
quit
+OK
Connection closed by foreign host.
[root@mail(node1) init.d]#

WITH recordio

[root@mail(node1) init.d]# telnet localhost 110
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.localdomain.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK <1776.991316117@mail>
user me
+OK
pass test
 778 > +OK
+OK
list
 778 < list
 778 > +OK
+OK
 778 > 1 212
 778 > 2 483
 778 > 3 212
 778 > .
1 212
2 483
3 212
.
quit
 778 < quit
 778 > +OK
+OK
1778 > [EOF]
Connection closed by foreign host.
[root@mail(node1) init.d]#


Thanks once again...

David Gartner

Re: forwarding msgs analyzing subject text

[Massimo Quintini]

Excuse me, but I have tried your solution but it don't works!

My files are

~massimo/.qmail

./Maildir/
|/var/qmail/bin/condredirect iauc `822field Subject | grep -q "IAUC"`

~alias/.qmail-iauc

&[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The messages in /var/log/qmail/current are


new msg 104056
info msg 104056: bytes 1094 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 4756 uid 946
starting delivery 29: msg 104056 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
delivery 29: failure:
condredirect:_usage:_condredirect_newaddress_program_[_arg_..._]/
status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
bounce msg 104056 qp 4764
end msg 104056
new msg 104057
info msg 104057: bytes 1669 from <> qp 4764 uid 951
starting delivery 30: msg 104057 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
delivery 30: success: did_1+0+0/
status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
end msg 104057

I have tried with many test but without success!!!

Thanks. Massimo QUINTINI

Russell Nelson wrote:

> Massimo Quintini writes:
>  > I must forward msgs from 1 sender to groups of users  AFTER EXAMINING
>  > SUBJECT TEXT
>  >
>  > example:
>  >
>  > the rcpt of msg is user1
>  > IF subject contains the char string "xxx" THEN the msg must be forwarded
>  > to users user2, user3, user4
>  > IF subject contains the char string "yyy" THEN the msg must be forwarded
>  > to users user5, user6, user7
>  > ..and so on
>  >
>  > It's possibile? How?
>
> cat >~user1/.qmail < ./Mailbox
> |condredirect user234 `822field Subject | grep -q "xxx"`
> |condredirect user567 `822field Subject | grep -q "yyy"`
> EOF
>
> cat >~alias/.qmail-user234 < &user2
> &user3
> &user4
> EOF
>
> cat >~alias/.qmail-user567 < &user5
> &user6
> &user7
> EOF
>
> --
> -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
> Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything.
> 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws.
> Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

--
Massimo Quintini
Osservatorio Astronomico Collurania Teramo
Via Mentore Maggini s.n.c. 64100 TERAMO (Italy)
Tel +39-0861210490  Fax +39-0861210492
http://www.te.astro.it

Re: Return receipts on an SMTP relay machine...

[Dave Sill]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>After a mail had been relayed to the internet, sendmail sent a receipt back
>to the sender. I can't get qmail to do that.

Hmm. So Sendmail on your relay sent a message to the sender of each
message it relayed informing them of the fact that it'd relayed the
message? And you found this desirable? What if every relay on the net
starting doing that? You'd often get 4-5 relay notifications for each
message you send. What's the point?

>I have read qreceipt's man page, but that only seems to apply to users on
>the local machine. This machine only has root and a couple of daemon users.

Yes, qreceipt allows users to confirm final delivery to senders who
request confirmation. That's much more reasonable than what you're
asking for.

>I realize that I have to patch qreceipt to recognize Outlooks SMTP tag for
>receipts, but how do I do that?

If you really want to do that, I think you'll have to hack
qmail-scanner[1] or implement a custom filter[2].

-Dave

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/

[2]  http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/2142/fid/206

Re: OT? Please help me help someone else...

[Dave Sill]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>In a weak moment I promised a charity that I would look into how
>difficult it would be for them to have their own web based email system.
>I guess this shouldn't be too hard but as I'm not at all technical I'm
>hoping you people can help me tell them what they need in terms of
>software.

It may not be "too hard", but it won't be easy. Or quick. Or
maintenance free.

There's no such thing as a free web-based e-mail system. There's going
to be a substantial investment of time, money, or both--even if free
software is used exclusively. And we haven't even considered h/w
costs.

>4) Cheap! I told them that it could most likely be done entirely with
>open source software.

Cheap is relative. A "turnkey" commercial implementation of such a
system might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. A "cheap" homebrewed
version might only cost tens of thousands.

>Would qmail be a good base for this system?

Sure.

>Which front end do you suggest?

I haven't evaluated them, and I don't even know which would meet your
needs.

-Dave

Return receipts on an SMTP relay machine...

[Peter . Fredriksson]

Hi all,

I'm running qmail on an OpenBSD2.7 as an relay for incoming and outgoing
mail to/from the internet and our internal Exchange server.
Before the switch to qmail, I was running sendmail. Sendmail had one feature
that I can't for my life figure out how to get in qmail.

After a mail had been relayed to the internet, sendmail sent a receipt back
to the sender. I can't get qmail to do that.
I have read qreceipt's man page, but that only seems to apply to users on
the local machine. This machine only has root and a couple of daemon users.

I realize that I have to patch qreceipt to recognize Outlooks SMTP tag for
receipts, but how do I do that? I use a OpenBSD binary install.

I use tcpserver to have separate relaying rules depending on where the mail
comes from. Could this also be used as an receipt mechanism?

I anything is unclear, please mail me.
Also, Please point me towards TFM.. Or speculations.. or ideas.. or..
ANYTHING!?!? =)
A bit desperate, yep..

With Best Regards,

Peter Fredriksson
Compu-Mark Nordic AB
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone:  +46-8-4417730
Fax:+46-8-6980909
ICQ#:   6166226

Re: Forwarding some mail recipients to other machine.

[Dave Sill]

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How about if I have 500 local mailbox ? Do I need to create
>.qmail-domain-users file for each one of them ? 
>And route the rest to other machine .
>
>Any better solution and how ?

The qmail-users mechanism. See:

  http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#qmail-users

-Dave

Re: Please tele me every sub-directory meaning in /var/qmail/queue/ .

[Dave Sill]

george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  It have some sub-directory in /ar/qmail/queue directory .But I
>  don't know every directory content and meaning . 
>Anyone can tele me?

See:

  http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#file-structure

-Dave

Re: mail queue getting bigger

[Dave Sill]

Cary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>However, when I try to check the mail that was sent, it has not been
>delivered.  I use bin/qmail-qstat to look a the queue, and it is growing
>bigger and bigger:
>---results of bin/qmail-qstat---
>messages in queue: 138
>messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 138
>---

qmail-send isn't running.

>root4755  0.0  1.6   892  520  ??  I12:25PM   0:00.13 \
>/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c cat /var/qmail

You have a typo in your qmail-smtpd/run file. I suspect you used
single quotes (') where you should have used back quotes (`).

>I would have expected qmail-inject to deliver the message as soon as
>possible.

qmail-inject queues messages, it doesn't deliver them.

>me: My name is localhost.

The host name is "localhost"?

>rcpthosts:

You don't want to accept mail via SMTP?

>concurencyincomming: I have no idea what this file does.

concurrencyimcoming is misspelled.

-Dave

Re: Vpopmail+qmail pop3 has lost it's mind!

[Russell Nelson]

Dave Sill writes:
 > Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > 
 > >You want to sync the clocks... qmail-pop3d won't list messages from the
 > >future.
 > 
 > Somebody refresh my memory... Why does it care?

I can't see any reason why it skips files in the future.  And it has
an explicit check to do that.

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Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything.
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws.
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

Re: Qmail.org website

[Russell Nelson]

Frank Tegtmeyer writes:
 > There must have be something with his machine/network. Russells DNS
 > server and the MX are also not reachable.

Network.  "Hey, what's this 192.203.178 network?  How come it's being
routed to us??"  Ring, ring.  "Oh, it's YOUR network.  Sorre!
We'll get it fixed as quick as we can."

Sigh.

-- 
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  http://russnelson.com
Crynwr sells support for free software  | PGPok | Microsoft rivets everything.
521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315 268 1925 voice | Linux has some loose screws.
Potsdam, NY 13676-3213  | +1 315 268 9201 FAX  | You own a screwdriver.

qmail-remote crashes(info from qmail-send logs)

[kamesh jayachandran]

hai,
Thanks all for ur previous replies.
qmail-remote is working fine when invoked separately.But it 
crashes(according to log entries in the 
/var/log/qmail/qmail-send/current).mail also not reaches the destination.
I can see all the mails(that I sent) in the queue using
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-qread.
But it delivers the mails if it finds the smtproutes entry for the
destination domain.

I am hereby pasting the qmail log entries and qmail-showctl output,

@40003b16770202500c74 new msg 12689
@40003b167702025027cc info msg 12689: bytes 603 from  qp 15947 uid 
511
@40003b167702053bab14 starting delivery 64: msg 12689 to remote 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@40003b167702053bca54 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@40003b1677021b6a3a04 delivery 64: deferral: qmail-remote_crashed./
@40003b1677021b6a5944 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
user-ext delimiter: -.
paternalism (in decimal): 2.
silent concurrency limit: 500.
subdirectory split: 23.
user ids: 510, 511, 512, 0, 513, 514, 515, 516.
group ids: 510, 511.
me: My name is kameshj
ldapserver: My ldap server is 127.0.0.1


badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.

bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.

bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is kameshj.

concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.

concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.

databytes: SMTP DATA limit is 5000 bytes.

defaultdomain: Default domain name is kameshj.

defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is kameshj.

doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: kameshj.

doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.

envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is kameshj.

helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is kameshj.

idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is kameshj.

localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes kameshj.

locals: 
Messages for kameshj are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost are delivered locally.
Messages for localhost.localdomain are delivered locally.

me: My name is kameshj.

percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.

plusdomain: Plus domain name is kameshj.

qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.

queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.

rcpthosts: 
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at kameshj.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at kameshjpp.com.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost.
SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at planetasia.com.

morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.

morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.

smtpgreeting: SMTP greeting: 220 Hai from kameshj.Hello how are u?.

smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.

timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.

timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.

timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.

virtualdomains: 
Virtual domain: kameshjpp.com:kameshjpp.com

now the qmail-ldap specific files

ldapserver: My LDAP Server is 127.0.0.1.

ldapbasedn: LDAP basedn: dc=kameshj,dc=com.

ldaplogin: (Default.) LDAP login: NULL.

ldappassword: (Default.) LDAP password: NULL.

ldapuid: Default UID is: 529.

ldapgid: Default GID is: 530.

ldapmessagestore: Prefix for non absolute paths: /var/qmail/maildirs.

ldapdefaultdotmode: (Default.) Default dot mode for ldap users: not defined.

ldapdefaultquota: (Default.) Default quota for ldap users: not defined.

dirmaker: (Default.) Location of program to create homedirs: not defined.

ldaplocaldelivery: (Default.) local passwd lookup is 1 (1 = on, 0 = off).

ldaprebind: ldap rebinding is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off).

ldapcluster: (Default.) clustering is 0 (1 = on, 0 = off).

quotawarning: (Default.) No quotawarning.

custombouncetext: (Default.) No custombouncetext.

maxrcptcount: (Default.) 0 RCPT TOs are accepted before sending 553 (0 = off).

tarpitcount: 5 RCPT TOs are accepted before tarpitting (0 = off).

tarpitdelay: (Default.) 5 seconds of delay to introduce after each subsequent RCPT TO.

badrcptto: (Default.) Any RCPT TO is allowed.

relaymailfrom: (Default.) Relaymailfrom not enabled.

rbllist: (Default.) No RBL listed.

supervise: I have no idea what this file does.
rcpthosts.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
virtualdomains.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
locals.lock: I have no idea what this file does.
defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.
ldapobjectclass: I have no idea what this file does.

waiting for your reply
kamesh jayachandran 
-- 
"Existence of programs that do the impossible is
 not a proof that that "impossible" is now possible."
- Tigran Aivazian

Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Jörgen Persson]

On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 08:11:19AM -, Deen wrote:
> Hi Arjen van Drie, J=F6rgen_Perss
> 
> Thanks to both of you. I have used the tcpserver instead. However, I 
> am still not satisfied. (no offence to both of you).
> 
> Last time, when I was using sendmail, I used aliases as forwarding, 
> so that I do not have to create home dir for each pop users.

Forwarding mail has nothing to do with pop3d nor with tcpserver. Anyway, 
there are many ways to forward mail under qmail. Take a look at
fastforward[1], it might be what you are looking for.

Jörgen

[1] http://cr.yp.to/fastforward.html

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Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Deen]

Thank you Arjen van Drie & J=F6rgen_Perss.

I have successfully access the pop3 under tcpserver. I don't know 
much about tcpserver tough.

Re: 452_Insufficient_system_storage

[Robert Sander]

On 31 May 2001 10:12:46 +0200,
 Tom Beer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> if I send a mail to an excite.de account with some attachements the messages
> will not
> be delivered, because there is insuffiscent system stroage. But why don't I
> get an
> mail that the messages bounces, or would not be delivered, and how can I
> accomplish to get a mail?
> 
> 
> @40003b15d6e62db5f914 starting delivery 594: msg 224165 to remote
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> @40003b15d6e62db652ec status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
> @40003b15d6ed1942ed34 delivery 594: deferral:
> 198.3.99.212_failed_on_DATA_command./Remote_host_said:_452_Insufficient_syst
> em_storage/
> @40003b15d6ed194356ac status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

because error code 4xx means temporary failure, the mail is still
in Your queue and delivery will be retried for 7 days (as default).

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander
Computer Scientist   Epigenomics AG
Bioinformatics R&Dwww.epigenomics.com Kastanienallee 24
+493024345330  10435 Berlin

Re: 452_Insufficient_system_storage

[Jamyn]

The error their server returned was 4.5.2 Insufficient System Storage.
4.x.x errors are considered 'temporary/transient', and may be retried
at a later time.  Your message was re-queued on your side, because
excite.de told your mailserver that the problem was only temporary.
If they had returned a 5.x.x code, then your message would have been
rejected and bounced back instead.

http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/821/17.htm
http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/RFC/821/29.htm

Feel free to take anything I say with a grain of salt; I'm always
in 'learning mode' myself ;)

- Jamyn


At 09:59 AM 5/31/2001 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>if I send a mail to an excite.de account with some attachements the messages
>will not
>be delivered, because there is insuffiscent system stroage. But why don't I
>get an
>mail that the messages bounces, or would not be delivered, and how can I
>accomplish to get a mail?
>
>
>@40003b15d6e62db5f914 starting delivery 594: msg 224165 to remote
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>@40003b15d6e62db652ec status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
>@40003b15d6ed1942ed34 delivery 594: deferral:
>198.3.99.212_failed_on_DATA_command./Remote_host_said:_452_Insufficient_syst
>em_storage/
>@40003b15d6ed194356ac status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
>
>thanks Tom

Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Deen]

Thank you Arjen van Drie & J=F6rgen_Perss.

I have successfully access the pop3 under tcpserver. I don't know 
much about tcpserver tough.

Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Deen]

Thank you Arjen van Drie & J=F6rgen_Perss.

I have successfully access the pop3 under tcpserver. I don't know 
much about tcpserver tough.

Re: qmail-pop3d - thanks

[Deen]

Hi Arjen van Drie, J=F6rgen_Perss

Thanks to both of you. I have used the tcpserver instead. However, I 
am still not satisfied. (no offence to both of you).

Last time, when I was using sendmail, I used aliases as forwarding, 
so that I do not have to create home dir for each pop users.

I found a doc written by Paul Gregg title "Single-UID based POP3 box 
HOWTO". (I don't remember the URL coz' I got a hard copy).

Has anyone successfully implemented his HOWTO yet ? There are things 
that I do not understand in his HOWTO.

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452_Insufficient_system_storage

[Tom Beer]

Hi,

if I send a mail to an excite.de account with some attachements the messages
will not
be delivered, because there is insuffiscent system stroage. But why don't I
get an
mail that the messages bounces, or would not be delivered, and how can I
accomplish to get a mail?


@40003b15d6e62db5f914 starting delivery 594: msg 224165 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@40003b15d6e62db652ec status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@40003b15d6ed1942ed34 delivery 594: deferral:
198.3.99.212_failed_on_DATA_command./Remote_host_said:_452_Insufficient_syst
em_storage/
@40003b15d6ed194356ac status: local 0/10 remote 0/20

thanks Tom

OT? Please help me help someone else...

[Simon Martin]

Dear List,

In a weak moment I promised a charity that I would look into how
difficult it would be for them to have their own web based email system.
I guess this shouldn't be too hard but as I'm not at all technical I'm
hoping you people can help me tell them what they need in terms of
software.

Their requirements are: In no particular order...

1) entirely web based access to mail with all the usual things like
spell check, address book, multiple folder manipulation, filters,
attachments etc. They also want to be able to forward mail to any other
address on demand.

2) subdomains of their domain created on the fly. ie,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> created by the user without the
need for an administrator.

3) a really fast, stable and secure system capable of scaling to
millions of mailboxes (pretty unlikely...) and tens of millions of
messages per day.

4) Cheap! I told them that it could most likely be done entirely with
open source software.

What would your suggestions be in terms of software?

Would qmail be a good base for this system?
Which front end do you suggest?

My thinking was along the lines of: (don't laugh, I know nothing about
this!...) Linux, qmail, mySql, apache webserver, php4, Squirrelmail
front end. Does this make sense? Any other suggestions?

Please feel free to mail me directly if you feel this doesn't belong on
the list, and please accept my apologies for trespassing... :-)

Many thanks

Simon
--
Simon Martin
London Uk
020 8386 5828
PGP KEY ID <0x8CFFC9E6> @ 
*Please note my e-mail address is now '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'*

Re: removing msg for old users: it's works

[Massimo Quintini]

Your solution works Thanks.

I have inserted # in ~alias/.qmail-

There are 3 mail user that are out of my organization and they receive again mail
(job-opportunities, advertising, ect.))

Thanks . Massimo Quintini

Charles Cazabon wrote:

> Massimo Quintini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > My mail server receives mail for old users/rcpt
>
> All mail servers do; accounts change, spammers have incorrect or guessed
> address, etc.
>
> > I want delete these msg and no forward to postmaster or other.
>
> qmail does this (well, it bounces them) by default.  If the bounces bounce,
> then they'll go to postmaster.  You want to know when your bounce messages are
> undeliverable, don't you?
>
> > How can I specify the delete operation in .qmail file?
>
> Well, you can just throw the message away by putting nothing but comments in a
> .qmail file.  You could then use the doublebounceto and doublebouncehost
> control files to send double bounces to that .qmail file.
>
> Charles
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> Charles Cazabon<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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