RE: [qmailtoaster] situation

[Patrick Ring]

If you have got the servers to back the processing and storage, it
should work just fine.

 

I would recommend the cluster solution Jake made a video about.

 

-Pat Ring

 



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Subject: [qmailtoaster] situation

 



 I have a difficult situation in my University where I work. I need to
create e-mail server to 50 thousand users and 120 or 140 domains.

 And each domains is responsability of the yours administrator. 

  Is QmailToster a good solution to this situation?




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RE: [qmailtoaster] Server domains

[Patrick Ring]

You could always use the QTP-Backup script ahead of your migration.
Rdiff-backup might be handy for keeping "versions" of it as you go.

 



From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 8:56 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Server domains

 

Is it possible to have the QMT server ignore a domain or simply a way to
disable it so that QMT doesn't attempt to deliver mail to that domain
(like deleting the domain) but leave the data on the server in the
/home/vpopmail/domains/.com directory?

 

I am moving to a new email server and as I move each domain over, I'd
like to keep what is on the QMT server just in case something isn't
right with the new server.

 

Thanks,

Scott

 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Email Duplicates

[Patrick Ring]

If it is in select email accounts, you may need to check your mail
filter files (like .qmail) and make sure the mail isn't being sent
through multiple times.

P. Ring 

-Original Message-
From: akisa...@ucu.ac.ug [mailto:akisa...@ucu.ac.ug] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Email Duplicates

Greetings List,
I have been experiencing email dupes for sometime now. On checking the
archives I found some post saying it could be low memory that is causing
this, at the time I was running at 1GB RAM, So I stepped to 3GB but
dupes where still coming. I then upgraded my toaster hoping it would
cure the problem but alas nothing. Today I decided to go under the hood
and see what is happening.. Not so long I discovered the dupes had a
slight change in the headers section like seen below

-first email to come
Content-Filter: maildrop-toaster
Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: domain.com-a...@domain.com
Received: (qmail 19861 invoked by uid 89); 16 Aug 2011 16:40:48 -

-Second email to come
Return-Path: 
Delivered-To: a...@domain.com
Received: (qmail 19861 invoked by uid 89); 16 Aug 2011 16:40:48 -

There seemed to be something else sending the second email so anyway I
looked further and compared the .qmail file for two users one that was
receiving duplicate and one not receiving them and this is what I found
-Account not receiving duplicates [root@abram alex]# more
../akisakye/.qmail
|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter

-Account receiving duplicates
[root@abram alex]# more .qmail
|/var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A 'Content-Filter:
maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/alex/Maildir/

There was a second line in that file
/home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/alex/Maildir/ am not sure how it got
there but as soon as I removed it, the duplicates stopped immediately. I
am currently writing a script to help me do this edit for about 600
users I have on this system.

Forgive me for the long post

Alex



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

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VERY TRUE!
I've lost a few of my hosted clients for THAT specific reason. 
(shared calendar in Outlook)
However, to be an Exchange host requires more licensing and cost than I
would ever want.  At least with QMT, we also have a great support
network.

-Pat Ring.

-Original Message-
From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:hel...@phpwebservices.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 12:25 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

Generally that requirement comes about due to calendaring.

I run QMT for my web hosting clients, but work requires Exchange because
of
calendaring.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 9:48 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

Oh yeah - I needed the Win2008 R2 book because they wanted to do some
new
stuff that only 08r2 does.

I may have to stop emailing now. Depression setting in...  j/k

Scott


On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM, "Patrick Ring" 
wrote:

> I could see reading for Exch2010, but Win2008R2 isn't hard to
> administer.
> Once you know Active Directory (even an old understanding), you pretty
> much have it made.
> 
> ...though Win2008R2 does have the new CLI that is "supposed" to be
very
> flexible for scripting and deep administration.  I've never needed it
> yet.
> 
> -Pat Ring.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:37 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News
> 
> I also had to spend $200.00+ on books for Win2008R2 and Exch2010. Wife
> was NOT impressed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> 
>> On 07/31/2011 08:46 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:
>>> My company is forcing me to move from Qmail to Exchange 2010. I may
> not be on the list much longer. I am telling any small businesses that
> can't afford Exchange about QMT so maybe the group will grow.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to let everyone know instead of just disappearing.
Thanks
> Jake, Eric and everyone else that makes QMT rock!
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>

> -
>> 
>> You have my sympathies, Scott.
>> 
>> I hope they're going with a hosted exchange service. That's a little
> less troublesome, but exchange is a PITA no matter how you slice it.
>> 
>> Also, they've considered keeping your QMT around as an anti-spam
front
> end. Does as well if not better than commercial services.
>> 
>> -- 
>> -Eric 'shubes'
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

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They are trying to be (linux-like).  I went to a big M$ pre-release demo
a few years ago, and I didn't really feel it was linux-like.  Though, I
did see a lot of promise.

...still not Linux (or QMT).
-Pat Ring.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:45 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

Yeah. It's called Powershell. It is really cool and very Linux-like.




On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM, "Patrick Ring" 
wrote:

> I could see reading for Exch2010, but Win2008R2 isn't hard to
> administer.
> Once you know Active Directory (even an old understanding), you pretty
> much have it made.
> 
> ...though Win2008R2 does have the new CLI that is "supposed" to be
very
> flexible for scripting and deep administration.  I've never needed it
> yet.
> 
> -Pat Ring.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:37 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News
> 
> I also had to spend $200.00+ on books for Win2008R2 and Exch2010. Wife
> was NOT impressed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:
> 
>> On 07/31/2011 08:46 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:
>>> My company is forcing me to move from Qmail to Exchange 2010. I may
> not be on the list much longer. I am telling any small businesses that
> can't afford Exchange about QMT so maybe the group will grow.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to let everyone know instead of just disappearing.
Thanks
> Jake, Eric and everyone else that makes QMT rock!
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>

> -
>> 
>> You have my sympathies, Scott.
>> 
>> I hope they're going with a hosted exchange service. That's a little
> less troublesome, but exchange is a PITA no matter how you slice it.
>> 
>> Also, they've considered keeping your QMT around as an anti-spam
front
> end. Does as well if not better than commercial services.
>> 
>> -- 
>> -Eric 'shubes'
>> 
>> 
>> 
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I could see reading for Exch2010, but Win2008R2 isn't hard to
administer.
Once you know Active Directory (even an old understanding), you pretty
much have it made.

...though Win2008R2 does have the new CLI that is "supposed" to be very
flexible for scripting and deep administration.  I've never needed it
yet.

-Pat Ring.

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From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:37 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

I also had to spend $200.00+ on books for Win2008R2 and Exch2010. Wife
was NOT impressed.




On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:

> On 07/31/2011 08:46 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:
>> My company is forcing me to move from Qmail to Exchange 2010. I may
not be on the list much longer. I am telling any small businesses that
can't afford Exchange about QMT so maybe the group will grow.
>> 
>> Just wanted to let everyone know instead of just disappearing. Thanks
Jake, Eric and everyone else that makes QMT rock!
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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> 
> You have my sympathies, Scott.
> 
> I hope they're going with a hosted exchange service. That's a little
less troublesome, but exchange is a PITA no matter how you slice it.
> 
> Also, they've considered keeping your QMT around as an anti-spam front
end. Does as well if not better than commercial services.
> 
> -- 
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

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I agree with Eric.

I'd have it as a front end for SPAM control and as a backup MX.

-Pat Ring.

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From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:09 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Sad News

On 07/31/2011 08:46 AM, Scott Hughes wrote:
> My company is forcing me to move from Qmail to Exchange 2010. I may
not be on the list much longer. I am telling any small businesses that
can't afford Exchange about QMT so maybe the group will grow.
>
> Just wanted to let everyone know instead of just disappearing. Thanks
Jake, Eric and everyone else that makes QMT rock!
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>

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You have my sympathies, Scott.

I hope they're going with a hosted exchange service. That's a little 
less troublesome, but exchange is a PITA no matter how you slice it.

Also, they've considered keeping your QMT around as an anti-spam front 
end. Does as well if not better than commercial services.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Issues with viewing a domain in toaster using vqadmin

[Patrick Ring]

I think vqadmin has something broken these days.  ...no plans for a fix

The QControl (by Jake Vickers) does a really nice job for administration
though.

-P. M. Ring

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Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:17 AM
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Subject: [qmailtoaster] Issues with viewing a domain in toaster using
vqadmin

Hi folks,
   Has anyone seen this issue please?

Open a domain in QMT web interface using vqadmin and the domain page is
blank?
Other domain are fine but several are simply blank!
However using the Modify Email Account editor will return email settings
for domains that cannot be viewed!

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RE: [qmailtoaster] firewall rules

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20 & 21 are FTP
23 is Telnet
123 is NTP (typical)
995 is (??) Secure POP3 (I think)
as for 953, 993, and 43, I don't know what services those would be, but
I'm sure someone else could fill in the blanks.
 
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From: sysad...@tricubemedia.com [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:22 AM
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Subject: [qmailtoaster] firewall rules


Hi Guys, trying to tighten up the qmail server more:
Can I close any of these ports: not sure waht they may be needed for:
tcp dpt:20
tcp dpt:21
tcp dpt:23
tcp dpt:43
udp dpt:123
tcp dpt:953
udp dpt:953
tcp dpt:993
tcp dpt:995
 
Thanks all
 
 
madmac

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail-dk

[Patrick Ring]

AT&T/Bellsouth (now part of Yahoo's email) have always been difficult
for deliverability from private mail servers.  This is even evident when
using static IP's on commercial lines (T1/T3/SHDSL).

-P. Ring

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:06 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail-dk

I would like to see opinions about this as well. Most of my QMT hosts
have been on dynamic IPs in the past, so they use a smarthost relay. A
few have been converted to static IPs recently, and I'm in the process
of converting them to send mail out directly. I expect there will be a
few hoops to jump through, for instance with yahoo. We should probably
have a wiki page that addresses deliverability issues. Some are probably
already covered in the faqs.

Does anyone have any insights they'd care to share?

--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 04/27/2011 09:46 AM, Helmut Fritz wrote:
> Thx Eric.  Yeah I was more pointing out the scripts.
>
> I will check out Jakes, and it would be great to get opinions on DKIM.
>
> Necessary?
>
> Or just good to do?
>
> Or not really needed?
>
> Helmut
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:43 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qmail-dk
>
> On 04/26/2011 09:04 PM, Helmut Fritz wrote:
>> Hello!
>>
>> I am running latest version of toaster and had a client run into the 
>> qmail-dk signing issue last night - with only one email recipient. He

>> tried multiple times to send the email - same thing.
>>
>> "554 qmail-dk: Cannot sign message due to invalid message syntax.
> (#5.3.0)"
>
> There are very rare (unidentified) circumstances where this error
occurs.
>
>> Is it still best practice to unlink qmail-dk and use
qmail-queue.orig?
>
> TTBOMK, yes.
>
>> Is there a good way to use DKSIGNing? I found a reference to some 
>> scripts by a Kyle Wheeler.
>>
>> http://qmail.jms1.net/patches/domainkeys.shtml
>
> JMS recommends *not* patching qmail to implement DK. Kyle's method 
> uses perl scripts, which is much more flexible.
>
> See http://www.memoryhole.net/qmail/#dkim
>
> I haven't implemented Jake's DKIM scripts yet personally. I suspect 
> they're the same as Kyle's, but I'm not sure. Would someone care to 
> compare these with what Jake's video uses and verify if they're the 
> same or not? If they're not the same, I'd like to see a comparison.
>
>> is DKSIGNing necessary or suggested? Is qmail-dk now reliable and 
>> something different caused the issue with this one recipient address?
>
> 
> If DK isn't yet deprecated, it probably should be. DKIM is preferable.
> 
>
> DKIM is not required. It *may* affect deliverability to some 
> destinations, but I'm not sure to what degree. Someone else may have 
> some experiences to share in this area.
>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] QmailToaster ip address changes...

[Patrick Ring]

I always thought I remember the need to make a change (your IP) in the
firewall.sh, and then run the shell script.

-P. Ring

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From: Nabin Limbu [mailto:na...@himaltech.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 9:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QmailToaster ip address changes...

Yes, of course you can.

By default, should be no problem in changing ip address, unless you have
explicitly configured your services to listen on specific ip address.


With Regards
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Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 21:11:44 +
Subject: [qmailtoaster] QmailToaster ip address changes...

> Dear all,
> 
> Can I change ip address after the qmailtoaster installation?
> did you change it before?
> 
> Bilgehan
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-backup

[Patrick Ring]

Rollback or increments could be necessary if someone deletes email prior
to the last backup and it is later discovered by (that person's boss)
well after the fact (and the last backup).  I had been keeping about 1
month back in "delta files" necessary to re-create previous backup data.

Though I later realized that seldom does the contents of one
file/message change in a mail server, so just having a file-level
increment (instead of bit/block-level) is necessary under the right
circumstances.

-Pat Ring 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:55 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-backup

I think you can do incrementals with rsync as well. I haven't
implemented this yet, but I hope to in the near future.

I can't think of why rollback would be wanted or needed with QMT, at
least where messages are concerned.

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On 03/29/2011 10:25 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> I had played with a similar rsync method to this for a while as well 
> as adapting a rdiff-backup method as well (allows for 
> snapshot/rollback/increments).
>
> I think the rsync is the way to go if you don't need rollback 
> increments.
> It will cut down on bandwidth and time.
> -Pat Ring
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:07 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-backup
>
> I using rsync to back up the /home/vpopmail/domains directory. Then I 
> run a modified version of qtp-backup which backs up everything except 
> said directory. This is much more efficient, as messages aren't 
> repeatedly backed up.
>
> The modified version of qtp-backup will be included in the next 
> release of QTP, and is presently in the QTP subversion repo, so you 
> can download it from the web site. See comments in the source for how 
> to use it. :)
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
> On 03/29/2011 09:30 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>> I find it has been server-dependant (...age, load, amount of
storage).
>> My storage is about half of what you have, and I know it seems to 
>> take
>
>> around :45mins. ...though the servers here are not new by any means 
>> (HP Proliant DL320 G3's).
>> The process, if I remember correctly, makes the copy of the data by 
>> using a compression statement (tar/gz). It could be the compression 
>> that is taking a while (especially on older equipment).
>> -Pat.
>>
>> -
>> -
>> --
>> *From:* Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:24 AM
>> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] qtp-backup
>>
>> I was just curious. I am testing qtp-backup to see how long it runs.
>> I'm currently at 1 hour and 25 minutes and still going. Current 
>> directory
>> (/backup/qmailbkup) size is 7.2 Gig (/home/vpopmail/domains is 16 Gig

>> uncompressed). Is this normal? Am I running to correct/best/fastest 
>> backup script?
>>
>> My goal here is to put qtp-backup (or the best backup script) into a 
>> cron job that runs every night, then after waiting MORE than the 
>> amount of time it takes to run the qtp-backup script, rsync the 
>> backup
>
>> file(s) over to a another server.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Scott
>>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-backup

[Patrick Ring]

I had played with a similar rsync method to this for a while as well as
adapting a rdiff-backup method as well (allows for
snapshot/rollback/increments).

I think the rsync is the way to go if you don't need rollback
increments.
It will cut down on bandwidth and time.
-Pat Ring

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From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:07 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-backup

I using rsync to back up the /home/vpopmail/domains directory. Then I
run a modified version of qtp-backup which backs up everything except
said directory. This is much more efficient, as messages aren't
repeatedly backed up.

The modified version of qtp-backup will be included in the next release
of QTP, and is presently in the QTP subversion repo, so you can download
it from the web site. See comments in the source for how to use it. :)

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On 03/29/2011 09:30 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> I find it has been server-dependant (...age, load, amount of storage).
> My storage is about half of what you have, and I know it seems to take

> around :45mins. ...though the servers here are not new by any means 
> (HP Proliant DL320 G3's).
> The process, if I remember correctly, makes the copy of the data by 
> using a compression statement (tar/gz). It could be the compression 
> that is taking a while (especially on older equipment).
> -Pat.
>
> --
> --
> *From:* Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:24 AM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] qtp-backup
>
> I was just curious. I am testing qtp-backup to see how long it runs. 
> I'm currently at 1 hour and 25 minutes and still going. Current 
> directory
> (/backup/qmailbkup) size is 7.2 Gig (/home/vpopmail/domains is 16 Gig 
> uncompressed). Is this normal? Am I running to correct/best/fastest 
> backup script?
>
> My goal here is to put qtp-backup (or the best backup script) into a 
> cron job that runs every night, then after waiting MORE than the 
> amount of time it takes to run the qtp-backup script, rsync the backup

> file(s) over to a another server.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
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RE: [qmailtoaster] qtp-backup

[Patrick Ring]

I find it has been server-dependant (...age, load, amount of storage).
My storage is about half of what you have, and I know it seems to take
around :45mins.  ...though the servers here are not new by any means (HP
Proliant DL320 G3's).
 
The process, if I remember correctly, makes the copy of the data by
using a compression statement (tar/gz).  It could be the compression
that is taking a while (especially on older equipment).
 
-Pat.



From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 11:24 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] qtp-backup



I was just curious. I am testing qtp-backup to see how long it runs. I'm
currently at 1 hour and 25 minutes and still going.  Current directory
(/backup/qmailbkup) size is 7.2 Gig (/home/vpopmail/domains is 16 Gig
uncompressed).  Is this normal?  Am I running to correct/best/fastest
backup script?

 

My goal here is to put qtp-backup (or the best backup script) into a
cron job that runs every night, then after waiting MORE than the amount
of time it takes to run the qtp-backup script, rsync the backup file(s)
over to a another server.

 

Thanks,

Scott

 

RE: [qmailtoaster] need some help

[Patrick Ring]

Many times this is due to something placing a second mail filter
statement in the .qmail file.  You need to comment one of them out.


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From: nishant amin [mailto:igonish...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:40 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] need some help

hi all

recently i have received some complains from users that they are
receiving double email in their web mail account.i dont know what
could cause this..could you point me in the right direction
your help is highly appreciated

regards
NIshant Amin


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RE: [qmailtoaster] IMAP Ports

[Patrick Ring]

Make sure it is not blocked in your mail server's firewall or IP tables.
 
I didn't have to do anything to use it on my own QMT.



From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sc...@renshawauto.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:12 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] IMAP Ports



I just noticed that my server will not accept IMAP connections on the
standard port of 143 (we usually use ssl / 993).  How would I go about
turning that on. I need to do a migration from another email server (one
domain - 12 users) and would like to simply use the standard port for
this. 

 

Thanks,

Scott

 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Archiving old mails

[Patrick Ring]

I would imagine he's referring to some of the mail retention standards
that certain corporations must adhere to.

Personally, I'd just keep some kind of incremental system (like
rdiff-backup) running on the vpopmail storage.  The question is how long
does it need to be archived for, and what is the target medium.

The alternate question is whether this is for one person, 2, or the
whole server?
-Pat.

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 7:55 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Archiving old mails

On 03/11/2011 06:39 AM, Rafael P. Abreu Rosa wrote:
> Anyone know a good solution to archive old mail?
>

The best solution I know of is not to. :) Is there a problem you have
which you think archiving will solve? Please describe.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail

[Patrick Ring]

Very True on all counts.
However, don't be fooled.  The logs on Exchange require console/RDP
administrative access and can be just as difficult to get to and
interpret as QMail. 


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-Original Message-
From: Dan McAllister [mailto:d...@it4soho.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 11:16 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail

Actually, if you want to get TECHNICAL, most of those things can also be
done in QMT:

1 - a Unique Message ID is created when the server receives each message
-- and the message ID is the filename used by VPOPMAIL to store the
message (or at least PART of the filename). Of course, to SEE the
message ID (file name, etc), you'll need access to the QMail files and
folders.

2 - Tracking & Status are handled by the QMail logging feature -- and
detailed logs are kept for each process. You can adjust the level of
detail. The only tricky part is that the Admin user who wants to view
these logs will need shell access, or else web access to the log folders
& files.

3 - Using QMT and the VPOPMAIL utilities, an Admin can easily maintain
and modify the settings (including quotas) for each user

4 - Here's the tricky one... Using shell commands and the QMail logs, an
Admin certainly can determine overall user activity -- but the logs will
need to be more detailed than the default setting, and the Admin will
need a shell account in addition to the QMail account.

So you see, depending on how you INTERPRET the requirements, QMT can
satisfy the requirements with little change!

There ARE ways to outsmart even LAZY requirements writers (e.g.: the
ones that copy requirements from feature lists!)

Just my thoughts...

Dan
IT4SOHO

PS: Throw in an additional kicker -- QMT can support separate Admins for
each Domain -- so that different e-mail domain admins can be completely
locked out of domains that they are NOT admins for.

On 2/4/2011 2:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote:
> Dear Eric,
>
> Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange 
> server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail 
> servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as 
> Exchange Server will be a costly affair.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anil Aliyan
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
>
> On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote:
>> Dear All ,
>>
>> I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with

>> us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing
> solution.
>> Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for
qmail.
>>
>> 1.Every incoming&  outgoing messages must have unique number 
>> generated at server level.
>>
>> 2.Every incoming&  outgoing message track/ status should be 
>> maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log.
>>
>> 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping.
>>
>> 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anil Aliyan
>>
> Were these "requirements" written by you or your prospective customer?
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail

[Patrick Ring]

There is a time and a place for Exchange, but if all they intend to do
is email, that's not it.

Exchange can be time consuming on the administrative end if the company
has more than say 10 - 20 inboxes/accounts (especially as the
information store grows).

If they don't directly need the calendar/journal/shared info and
extensive addressbook, don't go Exchange (not worth it as a strict
MTA/email server).

I agree with Eric that it looks like someone copied the feature list of
Exchange (or similar).

There are a lot of logs that most people don't use available in Qmail
Toaster.  Those might already do what you need.


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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:34 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail

I'm glad to know that, Anil.

It looks to me as though someone took a feature list from Exchange, and
made them "requirements". Of course, most other email servers don't have
these features, because frankly, they're not something that's necessary,
or really even desirable.

In the interest of reality, they could also have added:
6.Anti-spam capability must be an additional cost, and marginally
effective.
7.Server reliability is spotty.
8.Admin of server will be a full time position that is difficult to fill
due to frustrating environment.

You'll need to decide for yourself what it's worth to you to serve this
customer. If they're bent on getting Exchange, that's what they'll get,
and they'll deserve it.

My opinion is that if you're really acting in your customer's best
interest, you'll try to help them understand why Exchange is not
something that they should want. This is largely a process of education.

Good luck (seriously).

--
-Eric 'shubes'

On 02/04/2011 12:05 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote:
> Dear Eric,
>
> Yes these requirements are made by the customer. I know exchange 
> server has all these features but just wanted to check if other mail 
> servers like Qmail etc. can provide all these features or not as 
> Exchange Server will be a costly affair.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anil Aliyan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Is it possible with Qmail
>
> On 02/03/2011 06:02 AM, Anil Aliyan wrote:
>> Dear All ,
>>
>> I have a prospect customer who wish to host their mailing server with

>> us and wish to the following capabilities in the provided mailing
> solution.
>> Can we have all these mentioned below in Qmail or any add-on for
qmail.
>>
>> 1.Every incoming&  outgoing messages must have unique number 
>> generated at server level.
>>
>> 2.Every incoming&  outgoing message track/ status should be 
>> maintained and administrator can monitored the overall log.
>>
>> 3.Admin can maintain user profile and grouping.
>>
>> 4.Admin can review overall / user wise activities.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anil Aliyan
>>
>
> Were these "requirements" written by you or your prospective customer?
>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Replicated Server Issue

[Patrick Ring]

At that point, just check to see the database has data in it (using
something like Webmin or PHPmyAdmin).  Then see if when you change
something on your master server (account info via qcontrol or
qmailadmin), it follows suit in the new slave.

After you've established the database connectivity/replication, you can
move the appropriate config files and mail files and, later, start your
sync routines.

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From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:16 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Replicated Server Issue

No, I have not moved any files.

Scott



On Jan 24, 2011, at 5:06 PM, "Patrick Ring"  wrote:

> Have you moved the qmail control files and such? (/var/qmail/control) 
> If I remember correctly, the db is not the only place qmailadmin or 
> qcontrol gets the account data (it's the main data, but not the only 
> data).
> 
> Install Webmin for an easy view of your mysql db's (or PHPmyAdmin).
> That way you can see if the data is actually exists and if it is 
> readily changing due to replication.
> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:53 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Replicated Server Issue
> 
> I honestly have no idea how to check that, Jake... or for that matter 
> how to fix it if that is the issue.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:24 PM, "Jacob Vickers" 
> wrote:
> 
>>> I am trying to add a server to my existing server in a replicated 
>>> fashion.  I am running into a problem copying the database over to 
>>> the new server.  When I follow the steps (listed below) in the 
>>> Replicated Server video, nothing gets put into the NEW database.
>>> Here are the steps I follow:
>>> 
>>> On the OLD (#1) server:
>>> 
>>> Dump vpopmail database into vpopdump.sql SCP file over to NEW server
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On the NEW (#2) server:
>>> 
>>> Stop Slave
>>> Drop vpopmail database
>>> Create vpopmail database
>>> Import database I SCP'ed (dump file) over from existing server (#1) 
>>> Start Slave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I check the new server with either QControl or QmailAdmin, 
>>> there
> 
>>> are NO domains or users.  I'm stumped on this one.  I've followed 
>>> the
> 
>>> above process three times and still no love!
>>> 
>>> Also, the I double-checked that the dump file DOES contain data.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Does the newly created DB have the vpopmail user as having full 
>> rights
> 
>> to the DB?
>> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Replicated Server Issue

[Patrick Ring]

Have you moved the qmail control files and such? (/var/qmail/control)
If I remember correctly, the db is not the only place qmailadmin or
qcontrol gets the account data (it's the main data, but not the only
data).

Install Webmin for an easy view of your mysql db's (or PHPmyAdmin).
That way you can see if the data is actually exists and if it is readily
changing due to replication.

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-Original Message-
From: Scott Hughes [mailto:sonicscott9...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 4:53 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Replicated Server Issue

I honestly have no idea how to check that, Jake... or for that matter
how to fix it if that is the issue.

Scott



On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:24 PM, "Jacob Vickers" 
wrote:

>> I am trying to add a server to my existing server in a replicated 
>> fashion.  I am running into a problem copying the database over to 
>> the new server.  When I follow the steps (listed below) in the 
>> Replicated Server video, nothing gets put into the NEW database.  
>> Here are the steps I follow:
>> 
>> On the OLD (#1) server:
>> 
>> Dump vpopmail database into vpopdump.sql SCP file over to NEW server
>> 
>> 
>> On the NEW (#2) server:
>> 
>> Stop Slave
>> Drop vpopmail database
>> Create vpopmail database
>> Import database I SCP'ed (dump file) over from existing server (#1) 
>> Start Slave
>> 
>> 
>> When I check the new server with either QControl or QmailAdmin, there

>> are NO domains or users.  I'm stumped on this one.  I've followed the

>> above process three times and still no love!
>> 
>> Also, the I double-checked that the dump file DOES contain data.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Does the newly created DB have the vpopmail user as having full rights

> to the DB?
> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: emails (outbound) stuck in queue

[Patrick Ring]

Eric,
I ran the commands as you posted them (thank you).  No errors.

Immediately the 2 (out of 7) oldest messages no longer show in the
queue.  However, there are still 5 left (one bounce message (unrelated
to the 2), 2 legitimate emails, and 2 delivery/read receipts).

I ran the commands again just to be sure, and the 5 messages are still
there.

Should they have sent fairly quickly, or might it take some time?

Thank you,

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:56 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: emails (outbound) stuck in queue

On 11/17/2010 11:30 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> I had a spammer hack a client's email and load up the mail queue with 
> bogus emails.
> I used qmHandle with the appropriate strings to get rid of the 
> offending emails (15600+). However, now there are 4 emails in the 
> queue that are legit, but they won't go out.
> I have tried using "qmHandle -a" to get them to process, but no luck.
> What else should I look at?
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200

Off hand, I'd suggest:
# service qmail stop
# queue_repair.py -r
# service qmail start
# service qmail doqueue
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[qmailtoaster] emails (outbound) stuck in queue

[Patrick Ring]

I had a spammer hack a client's email and load up the mail queue with
bogus emails.
I used qmHandle with the appropriate strings to get rid of the offending
emails (15600+).  However, now there are 4 emails in the queue that are
legit, but they won't go out.
 
I have tried using "qmHandle -a" to get them to process, but no luck.
What else should I look at?
 
Thank you,
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Auto-Response at server level

[Patrick Ring]

I've always thought the same thing.  ... Under Options in
Squirrelmail... 


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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:03 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Auto-Response at server level

On 11/01/2010 02:37 AM, Amit Dalia wrote:
> Thanks for information Jake. I'll create script for same.
>
> Amit
>
> At Monday, 01-11-2010 on 11:08 Jake Vickers wrote:
>
> On 10/29/2010 01:43 AM, Amit Dalia wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Is there anyway to setup auto-response at server level. Actually
>> Diwali vacations are coming in India which is same like Christmas
>> vacations, my users want to put out of office auto-response. Now
>> on few server there are more than 300 users and users doesn't
have
>> access to qmailadmin. So is there anyway to put 1 auto-response
at
>> the server level.
>
> No - you would need to script something to set the auto-response
for
> the users, since they do not have access to qmailadmin.
>

I'm just curious. I thought each user could access their own account
with qmailadmin, for changing password and auto-response. Is there
something you've done to shut off that access?

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Auto-Response at server level

[Patrick Ring]

I don't know about the server-level autoresponse, but each user could
put an autoresponse via the Squirrelmail interface (under options).
 
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From: Amit Dalia [mailto:a...@ikf.co.in] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:43 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Auto-Response at server level


Hi Everyone,

Is there anyway to setup auto-response at server level. Actually Diwali
vacations are coming in India which is same like Christmas vacations, my
users want to put out of office auto-response. Now on few server there
are more than 300 users and users doesn't have access to qmailadmin. So
is there anyway to put 1 auto-response at the server level.

Amit

RE: [qmailtoaster] Set Up for the New qmail-toaster

[Patrick Ring]

I believe you'll need to edit and rerun the "firewall.sh" script when
you change the IP.

 



From: Joselito Tapangan [mailto:joselitotapan...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:30 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Set Up for the New qmail-toaster

 

Hi List,

We decide to re-install SQ since our problem in "sending email slow"
were hard to resolve. But in this manner we will not upgrade the php and
mysql. We will use the default of the of the squirrelmail packages. We
will observe if the problem still the same.

My question is this:

During installation or setup of qmail-toaster, I will use a private
email address. can we deploy it by changing it to public ip address?

Example: Installation/Setup process I will use  "172.16.1.23"
<-- private ip address
   Deploying the qmail-toaster  I will use
"125.61.6.24" <-- public ip address

Can we do that? If yes, How do we change the private ip address  to
public ip address in qmail-toaster?


Respectfully Yours,

Joselito E. Tapangan
Network Administrator
Booom!! Interactive, Inc.
2F Tulips Center Bldg.
A.S. Fortuna St.
Mandaue City, Cebu
Philippines, 6014.

RE: [qmailtoaster] Logs

[Patrick Ring]

Depending on how far back your smtp logs go, you could possible catenate
the files of the last week and pipe the result to "grep" with a filter
statement of us...@domain.com.
 
You could possibly even output that as a text file (>
/root/textfile.txt) then catenate that with a grep of us...@domain.com.
 
I'm sure there are more eloquent ways of doing this, but it might give
you a start.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
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From: Sysadmin [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:43 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Logs


Hi guys, 
had a request from on of my clients:
 
basically , they want to see if we can tell that , eg:
us...@domain.com,  sent emails to us...@domain.com, over the past week.
 
How do I filter the logs to show what I want.
 
other than that, I have had no problems for a long time, qmailtoaster
rocks...
Also I will be updating the " VMware image " ( the one with all the
added security ) on my site very shortly.
 
Thanks
 
madmac

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

I'll see what I can find. At least I know what it is called... 


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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:47 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin

I don't recall off hand. Google? ;)
I do seem to remember another problem with immutable on this list in the
  recent past, perhaps in the last 9 months or so.
--
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I'm not familiar with that, where do I find it? 
> 
> 
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: cannot delete subscribers imported into 
> ezmlm from qmailadmin
> 
> Is the immutable flag set on the entries you can't delete?
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>> Just as a test, I added a user via the command: ezmlm-sub 
>> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net 
>> <mailto:0a...@somedomain.net> -It added fine.
>> Then I gave the removal: ezmlm-unsub
>> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net 
>> <mailto:0a...@somedomain.net> -It deleted fine
>>  
>> The users that I can't delete seem to be only from the original 
>> text-based list (~495 users) that was imported.
>>  
>> This test was done after I attempted to fix the permissions as stated

>> earlier.
>>  
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>  
>>
>> -
>> -
>> --
>> *From:* Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:56 PM
>> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> *Subject:* RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into

>> ezmlm from qmailadmin
>>
>> I performed the following (to no success):
>>  
>> from the list directory (memberlist) I ran: chmod 700 *
>> - All files/dirs were already vpopmail:vchkpw (owner:group)
>> - This did give a execute bit to all (wasn't there prior)
>>  
>> from the memberlist/subscribers directory I ran: chown -R 
>> vpopmail:vchkpw * followed by:  chmod -R 644 *
>>  
>> I tried deletion of a subscriber via the qmailadmin and the 
>> commandline.  Neither worked.
>> hmmm
>>  
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>  
>>
>> -
>> -
>> --
>> *From:* Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
>> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into

>> ezmlm from qmailadmin
>>
>> On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>>> This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
> changed.
>>>  
>>> One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list 
>>> subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a 
>>> postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I

>>> can create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and

>>> then later delete that user.
>>>  
>>> The list was imported from a text file using the command:
>>> ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist < 
>>> ./EMAIL.txt
>>>  
>>> I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and they 
>>> seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
>>> I did notice that the ownership of the 
>>> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was 
>>> set to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no
luck.
> 
>>> I cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
>>>  
>>> What should I look for?
>>>
>> Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be 
>> vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the 
>> list dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they 
>> should be vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
>> When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what 
>&

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

I'm not familiar with that, where do I find it? 


Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin

Is the immutable flag set on the entries you can't delete?

Patrick Ring wrote:
> Just as a test, I added a user via the command: ezmlm-sub 
> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net 
> <mailto:0a...@somedomain.net> -It added fine.
> Then I gave the removal: ezmlm-unsub
> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net 
> <mailto:0a...@somedomain.net> -It deleted fine
>  
> The users that I can't delete seem to be only from the original 
> text-based list (~495 users) that was imported.
>  
> This test was done after I attempted to fix the permissions as stated 
> earlier.
>  
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
> 
> ------
> --
> *From:* Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:56 PM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into 
> ezmlm from qmailadmin
> 
> I performed the following (to no success):
>  
> from the list directory (memberlist) I ran: chmod 700 *
> - All files/dirs were already vpopmail:vchkpw (owner:group)
> - This did give a execute bit to all (wasn't there prior)
>  
> from the memberlist/subscribers directory I ran: chown -R 
> vpopmail:vchkpw * followed by:  chmod -R 644 *
>  
> I tried deletion of a subscriber via the qmailadmin and the 
> commandline.  Neither worked.
> hmmm
>  
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
> 
> --
> --
> *From:* Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into 
> ezmlm from qmailadmin
> 
> On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>> This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
>>  
>> One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list 
>> subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a 
>> postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I 
>> can create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and 
>> then later delete that user.
>>  
>> The list was imported from a text file using the command:
>> ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist < 
>> ./EMAIL.txt
>>  
>> I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and they 
>> seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
>> I did notice that the ownership of the 
>> /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was 
>> set to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.

>> I cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
>>  
>> What should I look for?
>>
> 
> Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be 
> vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the 
> list dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they 
> should be vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
> When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what is

> the return?
> 


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RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

Just as a test, I added a user via the command: ezmlm-sub
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net
-It added fine.
Then I gave the removal: ezmlm-unsub
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist 0a...@somedomain.net
-It deleted fine
 
The users that I can't delete seem to be only from the original
text-based list (~495 users) that was imported.
 
This test was done after I attempted to fix the permissions as stated
earlier.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 4:56 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin


I performed the following (to no success):
 
from the list directory (memberlist) I ran: chmod 700 *
- All files/dirs were already vpopmail:vchkpw (owner:group)
- This did give a execute bit to all (wasn't there prior)
 
from the memberlist/subscribers directory I ran: chown -R
vpopmail:vchkpw *
followed by:  chmod -R 644 *
 
I tried deletion of a subscriber via the qmailadmin and the commandline.
Neither worked.
hmmm
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin


On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
 
One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list
subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a
postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I can
create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and then
later delete that user.
 
The list was imported from a text file using the command:
ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist <
./EMAIL.txt
 
I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and
they seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
I did notice that the ownership of the
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was set
to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.  I
cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
 
What should I look for?



Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the list
dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what is
the return?

RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

I performed the following (to no success):
 
from the list directory (memberlist) I ran: chmod 700 *
- All files/dirs were already vpopmail:vchkpw (owner:group)
- This did give a execute bit to all (wasn't there prior)
 
from the memberlist/subscribers directory I ran: chown -R
vpopmail:vchkpw *
followed by:  chmod -R 644 *
 
I tried deletion of a subscriber via the qmailadmin and the commandline.
Neither worked.
hmmm
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin


On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
 
One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list
subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a
postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I can
create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and then
later delete that user.
 
The list was imported from a text file using the command:
ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist <
./EMAIL.txt
 
I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and
they seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
I did notice that the ownership of the
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was set
to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.  I
cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
 
What should I look for?



Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the list
dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what is
the return?

RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I used the command:
ezmlm-unsub /home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist
user@
 
It just brings me to the next command prompt (says nothing), and when I
list the subscribers, the one I attempted to delete is still there.
 
I'm going to try resetting the owner/permissions, and see where that
takes me first.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin


On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
 
One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list
subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a
postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I can
create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and then
later delete that user.
 
The list was imported from a text file using the command:
ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist <
./EMAIL.txt
 
I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and
they seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
I did notice that the ownership of the
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was set
to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.  I
cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
 
What should I look for?



Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the list
dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what is
the return?

RE: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

In the qmailadmin interface it simply says: u...@domain.tld removed from
mailing list memberl...@domain.tld
at the top of the list manager screen.
 
I have not tried the command tool.  I'll try that before I fuss with the
permissions to hopefully get a better error.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into
ezmlm from qmailadmin


On 09/19/2010 03:27 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
 
One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list
subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a
postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I can
create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and then
later delete that user.
 
The list was imported from a text file using the command:
ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist <
./EMAIL.txt
 
I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and
they seem to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
I did notice that the ownership of the
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was set
to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.  I
cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
 
What should I look for?



Sounds like a permission issue still.  The list dir should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 700. Same with the subscribers folder under the list
dir. In the subscribers folder should be some files, and they should be
vpopmail:vchkpw and 644.
When you try and delete the user using the command line tools, what is
the return?

[qmailtoaster] cannot delete subscribers imported into ezmlm from qmailadmin

[Patrick Ring]

This is something that was working, though I don't know what has
changed.
 
One of my clients was telling me that she could not delete list
subscribers.  She is set up as a moderator.  I have tried as a
postmaster with no luck either.  However, what is strange, is that I can
create a user (while logged in as her user or as postmaster) and then
later delete that user.
 
The list was imported from a text file using the command:
ezmlm-sub /home/vpopmail/domains/.net/memberlist < ./EMAIL.txt
 
I've checked the priviledges in the qmailadmin - edit list and they seem
to be the same as what I've always used (with no trouble).
I did notice that the ownership of the
/home/vpopmail/domains//memberlist/subscribers/ was set
to root:root.  I did reset these to vpopmail:vchkpw with no luck.  I
cannot delete any of the emails imported by the ezmlm-sub command.
 
What should I look for?

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?

[Patrick Ring]

Interesting...
I've done something similar with pfSense and it's load balancer for other LAN 
needs.  I'll have to do some testing with QM in that respect.

Thanks,
Patrick Ring
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-Original Message-
From: Michael Colvin 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Fri Aug 13 18:34:19 2010
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?

You could also use a load balancer (There's plenty of open source Linux
based stuff out there), and have the multiple servers "Appear" as a single
IP, even using NAT.  This should remove the SSL issues too.

I have mail servers with a single public IP, through a load balancer, which
also acts like a firewall, to some degree, and distributes the traffic to
the various servers, based on ports, loads, and various matrix's that you
configure.

Makes it easy to add/remove servers too...

 
Michael J. Colvin
NorCal Internet Services
www.norcalisp.com
 



> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 12:08 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?
> 
> spamdyke has no problem with NAT - it still sees the originating IP
> address properly. FWIW, I run several QMT hosts behind IPCop (on orange
> DMZ).
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
> > Thanks Eric.  I was on that track.
> >
> > My current firewalls block all (non-mail server) outbound SMTP and DNS
> > requests (learned hard way via a virus on my corp network).
> >
> > I think I know what you are talking about with the SSL and A records.
> >
> > My biggest concern was whether Spamdyke (or other RBL and spam filters)
> > would work properly behind the NAT.  Of course, I'm open to other issues
> > I might have as well.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Patrick M. Ring
> > P. Ring Technologies
> > Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> > 985-868-4200
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> > Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?
> >
> > Patrick Ring wrote:
> >> I have off and on considered running QMT behind a firewall with NAT at
> >
> >> one of my offices and just have the firewall appliance "pinholed" with
> >
> >> what the server needs.
> >>
> >> My main office has plenty of IP's, but my other office only has a
> >> couple available to me, so I'm obviously looking at the idea of using
> >> one IP to communicate with multiple servers.
> >>
> >> Does anybody have any pros vs cons for QMT behind a NAT here?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Patrick M. Ring
> >> P. Ring Technologies
> >> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> >> 985-868-4200
> >>
> >
> > I don't think running QMT behind a NAT'ing firewall is uncommon.
> >
> > The only concern I would have is the potential of rogue/infected hosts
> > behind the same public address to spew out spam, causing the address to
> > be blacklisted. Configuring the firewall to limit outbound traffic on
> > port 25 to only QMT should take care of that though.
> >
> > Also, having multiple services/hosts on a single (public) IP address
> > complicates SSL a little. Setting up multiple A records/names to the
> > same public address takes care of that though.
> >
> > --
> > -Eric 'shubes'
> >
> >
> > 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?

[Patrick Ring]

Thanks Eric.  I was on that track.

My current firewalls block all (non-mail server) outbound SMTP and DNS
requests (learned hard way via a virus on my corp network).

I think I know what you are talking about with the SSL and A records.

My biggest concern was whether Spamdyke (or other RBL and spam filters)
would work properly behind the NAT.  Of course, I'm open to other issues
I might have as well.

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 1:53 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I have off and on considered running QMT behind a firewall with NAT at

> one of my offices and just have the firewall appliance "pinholed" with

> what the server needs.
>  
> My main office has plenty of IP's, but my other office only has a 
> couple available to me, so I'm obviously looking at the idea of using 
> one IP to communicate with multiple servers.
>  
> Does anybody have any pros vs cons for QMT behind a NAT here?
>  
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  

I don't think running QMT behind a NAT'ing firewall is uncommon.

The only concern I would have is the potential of rogue/infected hosts
behind the same public address to spew out spam, causing the address to
be blacklisted. Configuring the firewall to limit outbound traffic on
port 25 to only QMT should take care of that though.

Also, having multiple services/hosts on a single (public) IP address
complicates SSL a little. Setting up multiple A records/names to the
same public address takes care of that though.

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[qmailtoaster] what are the pitfalls of QM w/ NAT?

[Patrick Ring]

I have off and on considered running QMT behind a firewall with NAT at
one of my offices and just have the firewall appliance "pinholed" with
what the server needs.
 
My main office has plenty of IP's, but my other office only has a couple
available to me, so I'm obviously looking at the idea of using one IP to
communicate with multiple servers.
 
Does anybody have any pros vs cons for QMT behind a NAT here?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

[Patrick Ring]

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:06 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I've heard ESXi 4 fixes some of those issues. (Must have 64bit 
> hardware
> though)
> 
> I run some low-end services from the ESXi 3.5 hosts, but not much 
> since there isn't much available support for doing so.
 >
> I do find my performance is better on ESXi than it was on VMWare
Server. 
> But, I'm running on older Proliant DL360/380 G3 servers (dual xeon 
> 2.8)

I would expect ESXi performance to be better than Server out of the box.

I wonder how much better though after tuning Server and the kernel a
bit.

> ESXi 3.5 is very picky about hardware Especially hard disk 
> controllers and RAID devices.

Speaking of raid, I'm partial to software raid-1. Do you know if ESXi
supports software raid or not?

*P.R.* It would be dependant upon the controller.  So far I've found
that ESXi (especially 3.5) wants almost nothing but RAID controllers
(hardware-bound not fake).  ESXi 4 is supposed to be a bit more lenient
since there is a big shift on the entry-level servers to SATA, however,
if the machine is not 64bit native, it won't install.

*P.R.* With that in mind, I don't think a software RAID-1 would work
since ESXi would have to configure it from the start.  I'll have to see
what happens when I put a controller into JBOD mode.

-Patrick Ring

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

[Patrick Ring]

I've heard ESXi 4 fixes some of those issues. (Must have 64bit hardware though)

I run some low-end services from the ESXi 3.5 hosts, but not much since there 
isn't much available support for doing so.

I do find my performance is better on ESXi than it was on VMWare Server. But, 
I'm running on older Proliant DL360/380 G3 servers (dual xeon 2.8)

ESXi 3.5 is very picky about hardware Especially hard disk controllers and 
RAID devices.

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Wed Aug 04 22:11:24 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

Nothing necessarily in particular. Just like to keep my options open, in 
case I decide  that I'd like to run some software on the directly on the 
host along side of VMware-server. My host OS is CentOS, so packages are 
readily available for it.

One thing I do run is ntp server. I believe VMware recommends this for 
ESXi as well.

ESXi doesn't appear to like all of my hardware. I have one host with a 
USB ethernet dongle that is not used by the host, but is bridged to a 
guest. I had to get the driver for the device from the EPEL repo. Works 
fine with VMware Server on CentOS, but I doubt getting it to work with 
ESXi would have been so easy, if even possible. I tried loading ESXi on 
one of my test hosts, and it didn't like the on board ethernet at all. I 
pretty much gave up on ESXi at that point, at least until I get some 
juicier hardware.

-- 
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Patrick Ring wrote:
> I'm curious to know what you need to control that can't be done on ESXi?
> 
> -Patrick Ring
> --
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:45:46 2010
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
> 
> I've been running VMware Server.
> ESXi is a bit more limited hardware wise than I'd like.
> I also like the idea of being able to do what I want with the host
> software. So far though, the only thing I really run directly on the
> host is ntpd (which the guests use to sync time).
> 
> I've thought about alternatives, but nothing has seemed very mature.
> I'll probably give KVM a go after CentOS6 is out for a while.
> 
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>  > I've been running QMT successfully on ESXi for about 4 years.  No 
> problems.
>  >
>  > I've thought about (open source) Xen, but never made the move.
>  > -Patrick Ring
>  > --
>  > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
>  >
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: Scott Hughes 
>  > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> 
>  > Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:32:23 2010
>  > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
>  >
>  > I just started playing with the free version of ESXi. Seems really good.
>  >
>  > Scott
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:21 PM, "Michael Colvin"  
> wrote:
>  >
>  >  > I'm running on VMWare ESXi, but was looking to maybe switch up.  Xen
>  > was on
>  >  > my list of possibles, along with Proxmox.  (proxmox.com)  I was 
> leaning
>  >  > towards Xen, but, perhaps I shouldn't now?  :-)
>  >  >
>  >  > VMWare's working great, just looking for something a little more 
> budget
>  >  > friendly.  :-)
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Michael J. Colvin
>  >  > NorCal Internet Services
>  >  > www.norcalisp.com
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >> -Original Message-
>  >  >> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>  >  >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:40 PM
>  >  >> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  >  >> Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Is anyone running QMT on Xen?
>  >  >> I just noticed that RHEL6 will not contain Xen, in favor of KVM.
>  >  >> --
>  >  >> -Eric 'shubes'
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  >  >>
>  > 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

[Patrick Ring]

Xen (as in the open source) or XenServer?
Just curious for clarification
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-Original Message-
From: Edwin Casimero 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
CC: Eric Shubert 
Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:56:41 2010
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

I run QMT 64 on XEN and it works.

Best wishes,
Edwin

On 08/05/2010 09:45 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
> I've been running VMware Server.
> ESXi is a bit more limited hardware wise than I'd like.
> I also like the idea of being able to do what I want with the host 
> software. So far though, the only thing I really run directly on the 
> host is ntpd (which the guests use to sync time).
>
> I've thought about alternatives, but nothing has seemed very mature. 
> I'll probably give KVM a go after CentOS6 is out for a while.
>


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

[Patrick Ring]

I'm curious to know what you need to control that can't be done on ESXi?

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:45:46 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

I've been running VMware Server.
ESXi is a bit more limited hardware wise than I'd like.
I also like the idea of being able to do what I want with the host 
software. So far though, the only thing I really run directly on the 
host is ntpd (which the guests use to sync time).

I've thought about alternatives, but nothing has seemed very mature. 
I'll probably give KVM a go after CentOS6 is out for a while.

-- 
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Patrick Ring wrote:
> I've been running QMT successfully on ESXi for about 4 years.  No problems.
> 
> I've thought about (open source) Xen, but never made the move.
> -Patrick Ring
> --
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Hughes 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:32:23 2010
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
> 
> I just started playing with the free version of ESXi. Seems really good.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:21 PM, "Michael Colvin"  wrote:
> 
>  > I'm running on VMWare ESXi, but was looking to maybe switch up.  Xen 
> was on
>  > my list of possibles, along with Proxmox.  (proxmox.com)  I was leaning
>  > towards Xen, but, perhaps I shouldn't now?  :-)
>  >
>  > VMWare's working great, just looking for something a little more budget
>  > friendly.  :-)
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > 
>  > Michael J. Colvin
>  > NorCal Internet Services
>  > www.norcalisp.com
>  > 
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >> -Original Message-
>  >> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>  >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:40 PM
>  >> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  >> Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
>  >>
>  >> Is anyone running QMT on Xen?
>  >> I just noticed that RHEL6 will not contain Xen, in favor of KVM.
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>  >>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

[Patrick Ring]

I've been running QMT successfully on ESXi for about 4 years.  No problems.

I've thought about (open source) Xen, but never made the move.
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From: Scott Hughes 
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Sent: Wed Aug 04 20:32:23 2010
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)

I just started playing with the free version of ESXi. Seems really good.

Scott




On Aug 4, 2010, at 7:21 PM, "Michael Colvin"  wrote:

> I'm running on VMWare ESXi, but was looking to maybe switch up.  Xen was on
> my list of possibles, along with Proxmox.  (proxmox.com)  I was leaning
> towards Xen, but, perhaps I shouldn't now?  :-)
> 
> VMWare's working great, just looking for something a little more budget
> friendly.  :-)
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Michael J. Colvin
> NorCal Internet Services
> www.norcalisp.com
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:40 PM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMT on Xen? (I hope not)
>> 
>> Is anyone running QMT on Xen?
>> I just noticed that RHEL6 will not contain Xen, in favor of KVM.
>> --
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>> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

[Patrick Ring]

Hurray! That worked.  Thank you! 


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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 6:27 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

Steve Huff wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> 
>> but is there something I could
>> adjust here to get this going?
> 
> 
> just install the rpmforge-release package as you would to enable
RPMforge on any other RHEL/CentOS system.  instructions are here:
> 
> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories/RPMForge#head-
> 20e1f65f19ccf2f5fbf5adb30dbaf5ea963a64ae
> 
> -steve
> 

I don't think it's quite that simple. Even with the most recent rpmforge
repo properly installed, the older qtp-install-rpmforge script will
still choke on the modified spec file, keeping qtp-newmodel from getting
past that point. The latest qtp-install-rpmforge script needs to be used
(or all modifications applied) in order for qtp-newmodel to work.

Until the point in time when a new QTP is available, I recommend
downloading the latest version (as opposed to making the modifications
manually):
# cd /opt/qmailtoaster-plus/bin
# wget
http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/export/140/bin/qtp-install-rpmforge
# chmod 755 qtp-install-rpmforge

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

[Patrick Ring]

I'm not totally sure, but the problem may lie in something with the
repo.

After changing the line suggested in
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg28768,
the newmodel script errors out like this:

vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.6.src.rpm is already downloaded, bypassed
qtp-install-rpmforge v0.3 - getting latest version of rpmforge-release
...
qtp-install-rpmforge - rpmforge-release not installed, installing ...
error: File not found by glob:
http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/i386/rpmforge/RPMS/rpmforge-release-0.5.1
-1%{?dist}.el5.rf.i386.rpm
qtp-install-rpmforge - install/upgrade failed, rc=1. Exiting.

qtp-newmodel - installing  perl(Encode::Detect)
perl(Razor2::Client::Agent) ...
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * addons: mirrors.gigenet.com
 * base: ftp.lug.udel.edu
 * extras: yum.singlehop.com
 * updates: ftp.lug.udel.edu
Setting up Install Process
No package perl(Encode::Detect) available.
No package perl(Razor2::Client::Agent) available.
Nothing to do

qtp-newmodel - updating toaster (mostly spamassassin) dependencies ...
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * addons: repo.genomics.upenn.edu
 * base: ftp.ussg.iu.edu
 * extras: centos.promopeddler.com
 * updates: mirrors.finalasp.com
Setting up Update Process
No Match for argument: perl(Encode::Detect)
No package perl(Encode::Detect) available.
No Match for argument: perl(Razor2::Client::Agent)
No package perl(Razor2::Client::Agent) available.
No Packages marked for Update

Would you like a unionfs/overlay sandbox? (recommended) [y]/n: y

Using FUSE union filesystem ...
qtp-mount-sandbox v0.3.3
qtp-mount-sandbox - installing  dkms-fuse fuse-unionfs ...
qtp-mount-sandbox - this could take a few moments - please be patient
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror


Error getting repository data for rpmforge, repository not found
qtp-mount-sandbox - installation of dependent packages failed
qtp-mount-sandbox - is your qmailtoaster-plus.repo package up to date?

qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
==

Also if I type "qtp-install-rpmforge" (since I think that is what it is
calling on), I get:
==
qtp-install-rpmforge v0.3 - getting latest version of rpmforge-release
...
qtp-install-rpmforge - rpmforge-release not installed, installing ...
error: File not found by glob:
http://apt.sw.be/redhat/el5/en/i386/rpmforge/RPMS/rpmforge-release-0.5.1
-1%{?dist}.el5.rf.i386.rpm
qtp-install-rpmforge - install/upgrade failed, rc=1. Exiting.
==
*This is also after having changed the line in the qtp-install-rpmforge
script.

I know Eric is working on a new version, but is there something I could
adjust here to get this going?
I'm wanting to bring this server as close to being up-to-date as
possible before I migrate users into it.

Thank you for any help.
Patrick Ring

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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:34 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

That should fix you up ok in the short term.

I will be creating a new QTP release, but that might not happen for a
couple weeks. We're in the process of migrating QTP to another host, and
I'd like to wait for that to be complete before cutting a new release.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK.  I'll try it.
> 
> That didn't come up with the search terms I used. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Huff [mailto:sh...@vecna.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:54 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge
> 
> 
> On Aug 3, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> 
>> I'm trying to update a fresh load before I migrate to it and right
> after sandbox mounts, I get:
>>  
>> Error getting repository data for rpmforge, repository not found 
>> qtp-mount-sandbox - installation of dependent packages failed 
>> qtp-mount-sandbox - is your qmailtoaster-plus.repo package up to
date?
>>  
>> qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
>>  
>> I've run a "yum update" already, and a "yum install
> qmailtoaster-plus.repo" says the qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2.noarch 
> is the latest.
> 
> this issue may be the one that showed up in a thread a few days ago:
> 
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg28750.
> html
> 
> if so, a workaround is here:
> 
>
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg28768.
> html
> 
> -steve
> 
> --
> If this were played

RE: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I'll try it.

That didn't come up with the search terms I used. 

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Huff [mailto:sh...@vecna.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:54 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge


On Aug 3, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:

> I'm trying to update a fresh load before I migrate to it and right
after sandbox mounts, I get:
>  
> Error getting repository data for rpmforge, repository not found 
> qtp-mount-sandbox - installation of dependent packages failed 
> qtp-mount-sandbox - is your qmailtoaster-plus.repo package up to date?
>  
> qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
>  
> I've run a "yum update" already, and a "yum install
qmailtoaster-plus.repo" says the qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2.noarch is
the latest.

this issue may be the one that showed up in a thread a few days ago:

http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg28750.
html

if so, a workaround is here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg28768.
html

-steve

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[qmailtoaster] qtp-newmodel fails: rpmforge

[Patrick Ring]

I'm trying to update a fresh load before I migrate to it and right after
sandbox mounts, I get:
 
Error getting repository data for rpmforge, repository not found
qtp-mount-sandbox - installation of dependent packages failed
qtp-mount-sandbox - is your qmailtoaster-plus.repo package up to date?
 
qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
 
I've run a "yum update" already, and a "yum install
qmailtoaster-plus.repo" says the qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.2-2.noarch is
the latest.
 
Is there something I've missed, or are the repos affected by the
migration Jake had to do a couple of months ago?
 
Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

[qmailtoaster] Spamdyke

[Patrick Ring]

I've just implemented Spamdyke.  I'm wondering if there is a Spamdyke
specific log I can watch or is it apparent through the
/var/log/qmail/smtp/current.  I do see a lot more of grey-listing and
denials that I don't remember seeing before, but it seems to have
quieted the smtp logs.
 
Is that normal?
 
I am seeing listings for @## spamdyke[]: that weren't there
before.  So I'm guessing I got it right... seemed very (too) simple from
QTP.
 
I do remember seeing something (here on the list) about Spamdyke
reducing the load on the server by keeping things blocked at the source,
but I'm not sure what I should be looking for yet.  Though, my client
with the worst spam troubles does suddenly seem to have a siginificant
reduction in traffic, and no spam yet.
 
Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

[Patrick Ring]

At this point I'm leaning toward leaving Untangle just in charge of my
corporate network (Exchange Server spam and content management) while I
put Spamdyke in charge of the qmailtoaster servers that house mail for
my clients.

I have had very good results for the Untangle Anti-spam (spam counts
went from the thousands per day for just a handful of aacounts to near
zero), but the more research I've done today, coupled with what I've
seen here, I'm thinking that it won't be a good match with QMT.

If any one has more to add (for or against), I'm all ears.

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 10:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

If you choose to use Untangle, that's what I would recommend.
Great minds think alike. :)

--
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Amit Dalia wrote:
> I'm using Untangle in my network but I prefer not to use Anti-Spam 
> feature of the same. Instead I use SPAMDYKE on my QMT server.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Amit
> 
> At Monday, 02-08-2010 on 4:15 Patrick Ring wrote:
> 
> I have often felt Untangle needed a bit more cpu than most
appliances
> should, but I've been pleased with it on my office-only network
which is
> why I asked what some here may think.
> 
> I guess this confirms my feelings that Untangle is best suited for
a
> small-med business firewall and content control appliance than
just a
> dedicated SPAM/virus filter.
> 
> As for Spamdyke, I figured it would be best suited to function
directly
> on the permimeter of the mail network (because of what it does).
Would
> you suggest putting Spamdyke on a dedicated box that relays mail
in, or
> just run it on my QMT boxes directly?
> 
> I'm not familiar with IPCop at all. I'll have to look at what it
does.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:47 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>  > I'm needing to tighten my gateways . In particular against
SPAM.
>  >
>  > I know there has been a lot of talk here about the Spamdyke
> software,
>  > but I'm also looking at the virus protection side too (even
though
>  > Clam is in QMT).
>  >
>  > Since I successfully run Untangle infront of my M$ Exchange
boxes, I
>  > was considering it for QMT.
>  > Does anyone here have experience with QMT behind an Untangle
server?
>  > Is there anything I should be aware of?
>  >
>  > Thank you,
>  > Patrick M. Ring
>  > P. Ring Technologies
>  > Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>  > 985-868-4200
>  >
> 
> I took a look at untangle a year or two ago. It's flashy and has a
slick
> interface, which unfortunately causes it to require more hardware
to run
> on than is generally needed for a router. I also don't think that
> anti-spam software in general is suited to a router
host/appliance. I
> prefer running IPCop in front of QMT, which I do regularly.
> 
> I expect that spamdyke with QMT (and spamassassin) will catch
every bit
> as much and probably more spam than untangle or even postini
would.
> 
> If you want to beef up virus detection, I would suggest augmenting
or
> replacing clamav with a commercial AV offering such as ESET or
> Kaspersky. I believe that ESET can be easily integrated with QMT
during
> the delivery phase. I'm not sure about Kaspersky or others.
> 
> You should realize that spamdyke is only effective when it's "on
the
> edge", communicating directly with the sending server. Putting a
device
> which handles the smtp session from the sender in front of
spamdyke will
> defeat most of spamdyke's effectiveness.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> 
>

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[qmailtoaster] qmailtoaster-plus on QMT5-ISO

[Patrick Ring]

Am I wrong in thinking that qmailtoaster-plus was included with
QMT5-ISO?
(or was it possibly part of the original qmt-iso?)
I know I have it on a server that I know I loaded from QMT-ISO, but I
don't remember having to load it from rpm or repo.
 
The reason I ask is that I just loaded a server up with CentQMT5-1.2 and
it doesn't have any of the qtp-* items in the /usr/sbin.
 
Would I have put this there, or is it part of the ISO?
Please advise.
 
Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

[Patrick Ring]

I have often felt Untangle needed a bit more cpu than most appliances
should, but I've been pleased with it on my office-only network which is
why I asked what some here may think.

I guess this confirms my feelings that Untangle is best suited for a
small-med business firewall and content control appliance than just a
dedicated SPAM/virus filter.

As for Spamdyke, I figured it would be best suited to function directly
on the permimeter of the mail network (because of what it does).  Would
you suggest putting Spamdyke on a dedicated box that relays mail in, or
just run it on my QMT boxes directly?

I'm not familiar with IPCop at all.  I'll have to look at what it does.

Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 4:47 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I'm needing to tighten my gateways .  In particular against SPAM.
>  
> I know there has been a lot of talk here about the Spamdyke software, 
> but I'm also looking at the virus protection side too (even though 
> Clam is in QMT).
>  
> Since I successfully run Untangle infront of my M$ Exchange boxes, I 
> was considering it for QMT.
> Does anyone here have experience with QMT behind an Untangle server?
> Is there anything I should be aware of?
>  
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  

I took a look at untangle a year or two ago. It's flashy and has a slick
interface, which unfortunately causes it to require more hardware to run
  on than is generally needed for a router. I also don't think that
anti-spam software in general is suited to a router host/appliance. I
prefer running IPCop in front of QMT, which I do regularly.

I expect that spamdyke with QMT (and spamassassin) will catch every bit
as much and probably more spam than untangle or even postini would.

If you want to beef up virus detection, I would suggest augmenting or
replacing clamav with a commercial AV offering such as ESET or
Kaspersky. I believe that ESET can be easily integrated with QMT during
the delivery phase. I'm not sure about Kaspersky or others.

You should realize that spamdyke is only effective when it's "on the
edge", communicating directly with the sending server. Putting a device
which handles the smtp session from the sender in front of spamdyke will
  defeat most of spamdyke's effectiveness.

HTH.

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[qmailtoaster] Does anyone on QMT use Untangle?

[Patrick Ring]

I'm needing to tighten my gateways .  In particular against SPAM.
 
I know there has been a lot of talk here about the Spamdyke software,
but I'm also looking at the virus protection side too (even though Clam
is in QMT).
 
Since I successfully run Untangle infront of my M$ Exchange boxes, I was
considering it for QMT.
Does anyone here have experience with QMT behind an Untangle server?
Is there anything I should be aware of?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

Not to my knowledge.  A long while back, I had a partner who was taking
care of my QMT.  He implemented the spambox on SpamAssassin; though I've
talked to him, and he thought the same thing.

I've built a few newer versions of QMT since, so I'm not sure what might
be doing this.

This time when I migrate to the new server load (QMT5-ISO -- this
weekend), I'll likely not do a full backup/restore process, and
hopefully I'll be able to skip on whatever is running that is doing the
re-filtering. 


Patrick M. Ring
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Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 12:54 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

On 07/29/2010 01:46 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
> Then it's either some other (imap) client, or courier. I doubt the 
> later though. Does your imap/imaps log show anyone logged in?
>

I would agree that we're looking at something external. The mailfilter
script is only run when the message is delivered to the mailstore. It
see the .qmail file, and processes the message according to the .qmail
file which tells it to run through the mailfilter script. Courier then
places the message in the folder. It does not get run against that same
message again. You indicated that when you move it, it moves itself
back. That would not be indiciative of the mailfilter script and the
message being hung in the queue - if it were there would be multiple
copies.
Do you have a script or something that runs against the mailboxes?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

It seems to be independent of SM.
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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Thu Jul 29 12:29:11 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

That seems to indicate a client program somewhere then that has a mail 
filter running that's doing this. Perhaps in SM?

Patrick Ring wrote:
> As it turns out, if I remove "***SPAM***" from the subject, the messages 
> stay in the inbox. I've tested this from SM, SSH session, and Webmin 
> file manager.
> 
> If "***SPAM***" exists in the subject, the message will be removed from 
> the Inbox and placed in the .Spam folder.
> 
> Thank you,
> Patrick Ring
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> Sent: Thu Jul 29 11:19:28 2010
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>  > I'm running Courier (I haven't had the time to plan out a Dovecot
>  > transition).
>  >
>  > I've tested and re-tested what is happening with the spam-marked
>  > messages.  Both from SM and from a ssh session (moved the files
>  > manually).  In both cases, the file ends up back in the .spam folder
>  > within a second of being moved.
> 
> That's very odd. I'm having a hard time imagining how that could happen.
> 
> Is the message perhaps 'stuck' in the delivery queue, getting
> re-delivered? Take a close look at the file, and see if the inodes are
> the same (in which case the file is being moved), or if the inodes
> change (in which case the file is a copy).
> 
> I presume you've checked that the message id is the same in both cases.
> 
> Have you tried copying it to the inbox, then deleting it from the
> spambox? (from a ssh session)
> 
>  > Hopefully when I deploy a new server (over the weekend), this will stop.
> 
> My guess is that it will.
> 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

As it turns out, if I remove "***SPAM***" from the subject, the messages stay 
in the inbox. I've tested this from SM, SSH session, and Webmin file manager.

If "***SPAM***" exists in the subject, the message will be removed from the 
Inbox and placed in the .Spam folder.

Thank you,
Patrick Ring
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From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Thu Jul 29 11:19:28 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I'm running Courier (I haven't had the time to plan out a Dovecot
> transition).
 >
> I've tested and re-tested what is happening with the spam-marked
> messages.  Both from SM and from a ssh session (moved the files
> manually).  In both cases, the file ends up back in the .spam folder
> within a second of being moved.

That's very odd. I'm having a hard time imagining how that could happen.

Is the message perhaps 'stuck' in the delivery queue, getting 
re-delivered? Take a close look at the file, and see if the inodes are 
the same (in which case the file is being moved), or if the inodes 
change (in which case the file is a copy).

I presume you've checked that the message id is the same in both cases.

Have you tried copying it to the inbox, then deleting it from the 
spambox? (from a ssh session)

> Hopefully when I deploy a new server (over the weekend), this will stop.

My guess is that it will.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

I'm running Courier (I haven't had the time to plan out a Dovecot
transition).

I've tested and re-tested what is happening with the spam-marked
messages.  Both from SM and from a ssh session (moved the files
manually).  In both cases, the file ends up back in the .spam folder
within a second of being moved.

Hopefully when I deploy a new server (over the weekend), this will stop.



Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 6:40 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I said "so it stays" because I have been trying to use the 
> Squirrelmail "Move" function to move the messages into the Inbox.  
> However, it looks like they've moved, but when you check the Inbox the

> message(s) is/are not there.  Clicking back on the Spam folder reveals

> they are right back there.  I can move the marked messages to any 
> other folder except the Spam folder.
> 
> Any ideas? 

My understanding is that messages are only moved to the spambox upon
delivery. My guess is that somehow SM (or the underlying IMAP server)
isn't updating the folder views properly. Which IMAP client are you
running?

> As for IMAP, it seems to confuse the end users when it is time to 
> delete messages.  Outlook and Outlook Express just strike them out, 
> and then the user has to find the Purge function in a drop menu.  I'm 
> working on educating them, but most of them are not young and computer

> savvy. ;-)

I knew that Outlook did that, but wasn't aware of OE doing so. The newer
Win7 mail program (OE equivalent on Win7) handles imap in a better
fashion (like you'd expect it to). Of course TBird also handles imap
well.

I encourage users to use something other than Outlook when they're not
using features that require it (most users use it only for email). 
Outlook'03 is particularly troublesome, given its 2G .pst file limit and
the fact that it stores all imap messages in the pst file even though
they're on the server as well. Outlook'07 behaves a bit better in this
regard (you can purge automatically, and full messages aren't stored in
the pst), but it still has limitations, as well as having to compress
the pst file occasionally. Not very user friendly.

FWIW,  you can change the "view" in Outlook so that it doesn't show the
striked-out messages. They still need to be purged, but it appears like
they go away. Also, they don't go into the 'deleted items' folder as
you'd expect. I actually had a user that was using the 'deleted items' 
folder as a normal file for archiving! (What part of DELETED do you not
understand?)

I'm not yet aware of a good cure for Outlook users. :( I imagine that
there would be a lot fewer of them if they understood how easily their
pst file could become corrupt, and they'd lose all of their email and
contacts and calendar information. Sometimes scaring them into switching
works.

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

I said "so it stays" because I have been trying to use the Squirrelmail
"Move" function to move the messages into the Inbox.  However, it looks
like they've moved, but when you check the Inbox the message(s) is/are
not there.  Clicking back on the Spam folder reveals they are right back
there.  I can move the marked messages to any other folder except the
Spam folder.

Any ideas? 

As for IMAP, it seems to confuse the end users when it is time to delete
messages.  Outlook and Outlook Express just strike them out, and then
the user has to find the Purge function in a drop menu.  I'm working on
educating them, but most of them are not young and computer savvy. ;-)

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:31 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

Patrick Ring wrote:
> Once an email gets "marked" as spam and placed in the .spam box, what 
> must one do to move it out so it stays in the Inbox?

The simplest way is to use squirrelmail/webmail (imap).
The spambox feature isn't intended to be used with pop3. It's a feature
that works well with imap.

I'm not sure why you ask "so it stays". I don't know why it wouldn't
stay where it's put. Have you observed otherwise?

> The only thing I can do is move the mail to another folder, but my 
> users use POP3 and really don't want to use the webmailer.

They could use any client program configured with their account as imap.

> (I'm hoping to bypass alot of this when I deploy a new server and 
> migrate everyone (without the spam rules etc) to the new system.)
 >
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
> 
> --
> --
> *From:* Toma Bogdan [mailto:tbog...@direkt.ro]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 23, 2010 1:44 AM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles
> 
> On 23/07/2010 3:13 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>> OK.  I deleted the .qmail file from all accounts.
>> As well, I "reset" the spamassassin database using "sudo -H -u 
>> vpopmail sa-learn --clear"
>> I followed this with a "qmailctl restart"
>>  
>> I am still getting a huge amount of false positives, and it is still 
>> dropping the ***SPAM*** marked emails into the .Spam box.
>> Once messages are in there, it seems to be impossible to get them 
>> back into the inbox (and stay there).
>>  
>> Any advice?
>>  
>> Thank you,
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>  
>>
>> -----
>> ---
>> *From:* Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:34 AM
>> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles
>>
>> On 07/20/2010 05:54 PM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>>> I've been running the Spambox on my qmt for quite some time now.  
>>> However, lately I'm getting a huge amount of false positives, and 
>>> it's a pain trying to educate the users about how to use the Spam 
>>> (or
>>> .Spam) folder.
>>>  
>>> Is there any (simple) way to turn it off?
>>> In the reading I've done, the only thing I can find is to 
>>> recompile/rebuild a package or two with the spambox 0 defined.
>>> I've also read it has something to do with the .qmail file found in 
>>> each users' account.
>>>  
>>> Can anyone point me to some enlightenment about this?
>>>
>>
>> If you are getting false positives, check the message headers. I'll 
>> bet your bayes DB has been tainted with legitimate messages that were

>> marked as spam, which will have a snowball effect. You'll see 
>> legitimate messages hitting the bayes score categories.
>>
>> Basically when the spambox is enabled for a user, after all the spam 
>> scans are done the message gets passed to the /etc/mail/mailfilter 
>> script (maildrop). If the message has a spam score in the headers 
>> that is greater than 7 (I think this is the default now) then it gets

>> sent to the Spam folder and also sent to sa-learn so that 
>> spamassassin can analyze it and learn to identify messages like it as

>> spam more efficiently. So if a legitimate message gets sent to 
>> sa

RE: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

Once an email gets "marked" as spam and placed in the .spam box, what
must one do to move it out so it stays in the Inbox?
 
The only thing I can do is move the mail to another folder, but my users
use POP3 and really don't want to use the webmailer.
 
(I'm hoping to bypass alot of this when I deploy a new server and
migrate everyone (without the spam rules etc) to the new system.)
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Toma Bogdan [mailto:tbog...@direkt.ro] 
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:44 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles


On 23/07/2010 3:13 AM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

OK.  I deleted the .qmail file from all accounts.
As well, I "reset" the spamassassin database using "sudo -H -u
vpopmail sa-learn --clear"
I followed this with a "qmailctl restart"
 
I am still getting a huge amount of false positives, and it is
still dropping the ***SPAM*** marked emails into the .Spam box.
Once messages are in there, it seems to be impossible to get
them back into the inbox (and stay there).
 
Any advice?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:34 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles
    
    
On 07/20/2010 05:54 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

I've been running the Spambox on my qmt for quite some
time now.  However, lately I'm getting a huge amount of false positives,
and it's a pain trying to educate the users about how to use the Spam
(or .Spam) folder.
 
Is there any (simple) way to turn it off?
In the reading I've done, the only thing I can find is
to recompile/rebuild a package or two with the spambox 0 defined.
I've also read it has something to do with the .qmail
file found in each users' account.
 
Can anyone point me to some enlightenment about this?




If you are getting false positives, check the message headers.
I'll bet your bayes DB has been tainted with legitimate messages that
were marked as spam, which will have a snowball effect. You'll see
legitimate messages hitting the bayes score categories.

Basically when the spambox is enabled for a user, after all the
spam scans are done the message gets passed to the /etc/mail/mailfilter
script (maildrop). If the message has a spam score in the headers that
is greater than 7 (I think this is the default now) then it gets sent to
the Spam folder and also sent to sa-learn so that spamassassin can
analyze it and learn to identify messages like it as spam more
efficiently. So if a legitimate message gets sent to sa-learn as spam,
spamassassin will be tainted - this will have a snowball effect.

When you enable the spambox for users, it creates a .qmail file
in the user's maildir. This tells it to pass the messages to the
mailfilter script before delivery. You have a couple ways to fix this:

Delete the bayes DB and start over. You may see an increase in
spam initially until spamassassin can learn again (brain-wipe it), but
this is usually preferable to false-positives.

Disable the spambox by recompiling qmailadmin-toaster to disable
the option - this will not REMOVE it for those that already have the
.qmail file - it will only prevent people from turning the option on.
You will then need to go and delete the .qmail files for the users to
actually disable it for users.

Delete the bayes DB, starting over like before, and adjust the
mailfilter script to fit your environment a little better.

Write a spamassassin rule that adds a negative score for things
that you identify as legitimate message contents - eventually this will
counter the tainted bayes, but it will take a LONG time.

After checking the headers and seeing the BAYES_99 category,
change it's score. This can be used in conjunction with some of the
options above.

Hope that helps some.


try sa-update then restart qmail


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http://www.direkt.ro
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

I do remember reading about it...
I don't know if my build would have had it already... I'll check tonight.
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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Thu Jul 22 21:01:12 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spambox troubles

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I've been running the Spambox on my qmt for quite some time now.  
> However, lately I'm getting a huge amount of false positives, and it's a 
> pain trying to educate the users about how to use the Spam (or .Spam) 
> folder.
>  
> Is there any (simple) way to turn it off?
> In the reading I've done, the only thing I can find is to 
> recompile/rebuild a package or two with the spambox 0 defined.
> I've also read it has something to do with the .qmail file found in each 
> users' account.
>  
> Can anyone point me to some enlightenment about this?
>  
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  

Have you added this:
score   FH_DATE_PAST_20XX   0.0
to your local.cf file? That rule began creating havoc at the beginning 
of the year.

Does anyone know if this has been fixed in the upstream package?

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I deleted the .qmail file from all accounts.
As well, I "reset" the spamassassin database using "sudo -H -u vpopmail
sa-learn --clear"
I followed this with a "qmailctl restart"
 
I am still getting a huge amount of false positives, and it is still
dropping the ***SPAM*** marked emails into the .Spam box.
Once messages are in there, it seems to be impossible to get them back
into the inbox (and stay there).
 
Any advice?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:34 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles


On 07/20/2010 05:54 PM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

I've been running the Spambox on my qmt for quite some time now.
However, lately I'm getting a huge amount of false positives, and it's a
pain trying to educate the users about how to use the Spam (or .Spam)
folder.
 
Is there any (simple) way to turn it off?
In the reading I've done, the only thing I can find is to
recompile/rebuild a package or two with the spambox 0 defined.
I've also read it has something to do with the .qmail file found
in each users' account.
 
Can anyone point me to some enlightenment about this?




If you are getting false positives, check the message headers. I'll bet
your bayes DB has been tainted with legitimate messages that were marked
as spam, which will have a snowball effect. You'll see legitimate
messages hitting the bayes score categories.

Basically when the spambox is enabled for a user, after all the spam
scans are done the message gets passed to the /etc/mail/mailfilter
script (maildrop). If the message has a spam score in the headers that
is greater than 7 (I think this is the default now) then it gets sent to
the Spam folder and also sent to sa-learn so that spamassassin can
analyze it and learn to identify messages like it as spam more
efficiently. So if a legitimate message gets sent to sa-learn as spam,
spamassassin will be tainted - this will have a snowball effect.

When you enable the spambox for users, it creates a .qmail file in the
user's maildir. This tells it to pass the messages to the mailfilter
script before delivery. You have a couple ways to fix this:

Delete the bayes DB and start over. You may see an increase in spam
initially until spamassassin can learn again (brain-wipe it), but this
is usually preferable to false-positives.

Disable the spambox by recompiling qmailadmin-toaster to disable the
option - this will not REMOVE it for those that already have the .qmail
file - it will only prevent people from turning the option on. You will
then need to go and delete the .qmail files for the users to actually
disable it for users.

Delete the bayes DB, starting over like before, and adjust the
mailfilter script to fit your environment a little better.

Write a spamassassin rule that adds a negative score for things that you
identify as legitimate message contents - eventually this will counter
the tainted bayes, but it will take a LONG time.

After checking the headers and seeing the BAYES_99 category, change it's
score. This can be used in conjunction with some of the options above.

Hope that helps some.

[qmailtoaster] Spambox troubles

[Patrick Ring]

I've been running the Spambox on my qmt for quite some time now.
However, lately I'm getting a huge amount of false positives, and it's a
pain trying to educate the users about how to use the Spam (or .Spam)
folder.
 
Is there any (simple) way to turn it off?
In the reading I've done, the only thing I can find is to
recompile/rebuild a package or two with the spambox 0 defined.
I've also read it has something to do with the .qmail file found in each
users' account.
 
Can anyone point me to some enlightenment about this?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: mail routing question

[Patrick Ring]

You could use the POP3 "smart host" function of the Exchange box. 


Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:57 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: mail routing question

Rajesh M wrote:
> hi
> 
> some of my clients are asking for a hybrid solution ie they need a 
> setup like this
> 
> a) for some of their top management users they want a hosted exchange 
> (hosted microsoft exchange server) solution
> 
> b) and others on our qmailtoaster
> 
> all emails will arrive initially on the qmailtoaster box
> 
> so is there a way by which i can route all emails meant for specific 
> users to the hosted exchange box ?
> 
> thanks
> rajesh
> 
> 
> --
> ---

I don't know how that could be done easily. You're talking about
splitting the domain, with some accounts going one place and other
accounts another.

I would suggest creating a separate sub-domain for users on the exchange
server, then for each exchange account create a forward to the account
at the sub-domain. I don't know exactly how you'd configure the exchange
server, but I expect that the sub-domain could be made transparent to
the end users.

Someone else might come up with an easier way to implement this,

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

[Patrick Ring]

So, no interaction from you for the solution?
(those are the best solutions! ;-) ) 

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Anil Aliyan [mailto:acali...@gnvfc.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 1:49 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Hii,

I wasn't expecting such a long discussion on this matter. It got
resolved on its one this afternoon and I am not receiving any them twice
anyone. I rarely touch my server and there is no possibility that things
get changed on their own in the server. Anyways its solved for me on its
own as it started on its own.


Regards,

Anil Aliyan


-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
Sent: 09 June 2010 00:08
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

That's ok. Sometimes one thing leads to another. (Who did that song?) ;)
Thanks.
--
-Eric 'shubes'


Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK.  I didn't mean to hijack the original thread.
> I'll see what I can come up with on what I brought up. 
> 
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:46 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
> 
> Interesting. I wonder if it's somehow related to either:
> .) the spambox feature (which I believe modifies this file) or perhaps
> .) some side effect of a user changing their preferences.
> 
> Might want to test these to see if you can recreate the result. I
think
> the former is more likely.
> 
> In any case, this seems to point to a problem with the
maildrop-toaster
> package. Please start a new thread for further discussion about this.
> 
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>> Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.
>>
>> Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along 
>> the way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one
of
> 
>> the web interfaces or by some other process.
>>  
>> Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was
receiving
> 
>> double emails:
>> 
>> | /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
>> 'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
>> #/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/
>> 
>>
>> Notice I remarked the second line.
>> After that, the account has been fine ever since.
>>
>> Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.
>>
>> Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then
get
> 
>> busy and forget about it
>>
>> Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail 
>> Toaster Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
>> I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and 
>> I'm not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.
>>
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
>>
>> Nice catch, Patrick.
>>
>> Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
>> Just curious.
>>
>> --
>> -Eric 'shubes'
>>
>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>> Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the
accounts
> 
>>> where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
>>> spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
>>> /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
>>> happens. (at least this has worked for me)
>>>
>>> Patrick M. Ring
>>> P. Ring Technologies
>>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>>> 985-868-4200
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
>>>
>>> Anil Aliyan wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
>

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I didn't mean to hijack the original thread.
I'll see what I can come up with on what I brought up. 

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 12:46 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Interesting. I wonder if it's somehow related to either:
.) the spambox feature (which I believe modifies this file) or perhaps
.) some side effect of a user changing their preferences.

Might want to test these to see if you can recreate the result. I think
the former is more likely.

In any case, this seems to point to a problem with the maildrop-toaster
package. Please start a new thread for further discussion about this.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
> Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.
> 
> Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along 
> the way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one of

> the web interfaces or by some other process.
>  
> Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was receiving

> double emails:
> 
> | /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
> 'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter 
> #/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/
> 
> 
> Notice I remarked the second line.
> After that, the account has been fine ever since.
> 
> Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.
> 
> Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then get

> busy and forget about it
> 
> Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail 
> Toaster Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
> I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and 
> I'm not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.
> 
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
> 
> Nice catch, Patrick.
> 
> Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
> Just curious.
> 
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>> Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts

>> where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
>> spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
>> /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
>> happens. (at least this has worked for me)
>>
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
>>
>> Anil Aliyan wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
>>> qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>>> <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> since last couple of 
>>> weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when

>>> I receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which 
>>> makes
> 
>>> me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.
>>>
>>> Is anybody else facing this problem???
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anil Aliyan
>>>
>> I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and 
>> don't receive any posts directly.
>>
>> Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on 
>> either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete 
>> successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the
> message.
>> If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused 
>> by
> 
>> multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are 
>> not
> 
>> too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be 
>> increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this.
>> /var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should 
>> check.
>>
>> Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, 
>> I
> 
>> would guess that perhaps the s

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

[Patrick Ring]

Thank you.  I've been trying to figure it out for 4 years now.

Some process seems to add the second entry to the .qmail file along the
way.  I'm not sure if it is when the account is modified by one of the
web interfaces or by some other process.
 
Here is an example of a .qmail file from an account that was receiving
double emails:

| /var/qmail/bin/preline /usr/bin/maildrop -A
'Content-Filter:maildrop-toaster' /etc/mail/mailfilter
#/home/vpopmail/domains/somedomain.com/mary/Maildir/


Notice I remarked the second line.
After that, the account has been fine ever since.

Every now and again, I get one that somehow reverts back.

Whenever it comes up, I'll look for answers for a day or two, then get
busy and forget about it

Last time it happened was when I was still using the older Qmail Toaster
Admin (http://mail.domain.xyz/admin-toaster/)
I have been using the qcontrol (thank you Jake) for a while now, and I'm
not sure I've seen the occurrence since I started using it.

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:28 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Nice catch, Patrick.

Any idea how these entries may have gotten in the .qmail file(s)?
Just curious.

--
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
> Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts 
> where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the 
> spamfilter twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the 
> /home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this 
> happens. (at least this has worked for me)
> 
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.
> 
> Anil Aliyan wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
>> qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>> <mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com> since last couple of 
>> weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when 
>> I
> 
>> receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which makes

>> me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.
>>
>> Is anybody else facing this problem???
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Anil Aliyan
>>
> 
> I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and 
> don't receive any posts directly.
> 
> Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on 
> either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete 
> successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the
message.
> 
> If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused by

> multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are not

> too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be 
> increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this.
> /var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should 
> check.
> 
> Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, I

> would guess that perhaps the sending server has experienced periods of

> heavy load. Jake??
> 
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
> 
> 
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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

[Patrick Ring]

Sometimes it's also helpful to check your .qmail file in the accounts
where this happens.  It might be pushing the mail through the spamfilter
twice.  Remark or delete the second entry in the
/home/vpopmail/domains/yourdomain.com/youruser/.qmail file if this
happens. (at least this has worked for me)

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 10:36 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Receiving two copies of every mail.

Anil Aliyan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am receiving two copies of every mail from 
> qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>  since last couple of 
> weeks, but I realised this yesterday only. This is not the case when I

> receive mails from any other mail domain or email address which makes 
> me believe that there is nothing wrong my side.
> 
> Is anybody else facing this problem???
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Anil Aliyan
> 

I wouldn't experience this, as I use gmane.org for list access, and
don't receive any posts directly.

Duplicates are typically the result of a timeout, which could be on
either end. When a timeout occurs, the session does not complete
successfully and the sending server (appropriately) resends the message.

If your server can experience periods of heavy load (usually caused by
multiple concurrent scans), be sure that your timeout settings are not
too restrictive. Spamdyke's idle-timeout-secs setting may need to be
increased a bit. FWIW, I'm presently using 180 for this. 
/var/qmail/control/timeoutsmtpd is another setting that you should
check.

Given that multiple users are seeing duplicates only from this list, I
would guess that perhaps the sending server has experienced periods of
heavy load. Jake??

--
-Eric 'shubes'



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Server changes

[Patrick Ring]

Dang!  Who did you have it hosted with?  Was it donated space/bandwidth?
Seems very sudden they would turn it off like that just over bandwidth.

What's an SLA? 

Thank you for all you (and the others) do for the QT project!

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 1:46 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Server changes

On 05/15/2010 12:49 PM, Maxwell Smart wrote:
> I likely have some PC133 RAM if you cannot find any locally.  Let me 
> know if you need it and I'll mail it off.
>
> That explains the spotty connectivity with the mirror.  Mine is up and

> current, so if any one needs files they're available.
>
> Thanks for all your hard work Jake.  I know I love my toaster and the 
> simplicity of the ISO you provide.  It's so sweet I use it as the base

> install for my webservers  :)
>

The mirrors are all current, so downloads of the packages are not an
issue. It was the webpages, subversion repos, email, and videos that
were kicked offline. I'll be bringing things back online on other
servers throughout the weekend and should have most everything back up
in a few days.
As I said before, everything that went offline yesterday will now be on
servers that I pay for SLAs with, so this should not happen again.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml

[Patrick Ring]

I think what you are talking about is an option in the "Edit List" button shown 
to the left of the list name.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 2:15 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


 no i meen set a member in moderated mode
so each message from a member must be accepted like in mailman 
____

Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 21:11
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


in other words make a member a moderator? ( as in give moderator priviledge?)
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:08 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


 can i set a member on moderated mode from the web`?  
____

Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 20:04
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


When you get to the "Main Menu" of the /qmailadmin web interface, click the 
Mailing Lists link (about half-way down).
 
There you can add a "New Mailing List" (bottom).  Then it gives you several 
options for moderators and subscriber control.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


no
 i only see the options to delete etc no way to add members  
________

Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 19:54
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


Easiest way I know is to use the Webmailer administration 
(http://mail.yourdomain.xxx/qmailadmin).  Then go to the Mailing Lists and it 
gives you several options for add/edit/delete of Moderators, Subscribers, etc.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:31 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] ezml


how to add members in ezml

RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml

[Patrick Ring]

in other words make a member a moderator? ( as in give moderator priviledge?)
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 1:08 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


 can i set a member on moderated mode from the web`?  


Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 20:04
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


When you get to the "Main Menu" of the /qmailadmin web interface, click the 
Mailing Lists link (about half-way down).
 
There you can add a "New Mailing List" (bottom).  Then it gives you several 
options for moderators and subscriber control.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


no
 i only see the options to delete etc no way to add members  
____

Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 19:54
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


Easiest way I know is to use the Webmailer administration 
(http://mail.yourdomain.xxx/qmailadmin).  Then go to the Mailing Lists and it 
gives you several options for add/edit/delete of Moderators, Subscribers, etc.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:31 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] ezml


how to add members in ezml

RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml

[Patrick Ring]

When you get to the "Main Menu" of the /qmailadmin web interface, click the 
Mailing Lists link (about half-way down).
 
There you can add a "New Mailing List" (bottom).  Then it gives you several 
options for moderators and subscriber control.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: SV: [qmailtoaster] ezml


no
 i only see the options to delete etc no way to add members  
____

Från: Patrick Ring [mailto:pr...@pringtech.net] 
Skickat: den 3 maj 2010 19:54
Till: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Ämne: RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml


Easiest way I know is to use the Webmailer administration 
(http://mail.yourdomain.xxx/qmailadmin).  Then go to the Mailing Lists and it 
gives you several options for add/edit/delete of Moderators, Subscribers, etc.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:31 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] ezml


how to add members in ezml

RE: [qmailtoaster] ezml

[Patrick Ring]

Easiest way I know is to use the Webmailer administration
(http://mail.yourdomain.xxx/qmailadmin).  Then go to the Mailing Lists
and it gives you several options for add/edit/delete of Moderators,
Subscribers, etc.
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: mattias [mailto:m...@mjw.se] 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:31 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] ezml


how to add members in ezml

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: clamav 0.94 end-of-life today

[Patrick Ring]

I had a case of clamav breaking a file server yesterday afternoon due to
this.  So far my QMT's are doing fine (they are on 0.95 and therefore
should be good).  However, you may want to see this as a reference:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20100416_clamav_and_the_case_of_the_missin
g_mail/ 


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-Original Message-
From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:48 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: clamav 0.94 end-of-life today

That's for sure. I fixed up 2 that were on 0.92. They were seeing the
dreaded "qq soft reject" message in the smtp log.

I'm a little surprised/disturbed that this could break a QMT, even being
out of date. While I don't endorse letting AV software getting out of
date, new releases shouldn't break existing installations. Perhaps just
disable itself at worse. Perhaps we need to look into why/how this broke
QMT, and change something to prevent it from happening again.

I don't think I understand the problem precisely, so I'm not yet
prepared to suggest a permanent solution. Other than upgrading of
course. ;)

South Computers wrote:
> Actually it broke 3 of my toasters completely.
> 
> If anyone hasn't upgraded their clamav, you better do it!
> 
> 
> 
> Quinn Comendant wrote:
>> Just a reminder to everybody that ClamAV 0.94.x is no longer 
>> supported by signature file updates after 15 Apr 2010.
>> http://www.clamav.net/lang/en/2009/10/05/eol-clamav-094/
>>
>> If you haven't yet upgraded to 0.95.x you need to do so now to 
>> process signature updates provided through freshclam. Today's 
>> daily.cvd will break 0.94.x functionality, giving these errors in the
clamd log file:
>>
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:17.689861500 LibClamAV Warning: 
>> ***
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:17.689865500 LibClamAV Warning: ***  This version of

>> the ClamAV engine is outdated. ***
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:17.689872500 LibClamAV Warning: *** DON'T PANIC! 
>> Read http://www.clamav.net/support/faq ***
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:17.689874500 LibClamAV Warning: 
>> ***
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:18.297274500 LibClamAV Error: cli_hex2str(): 
>> Malformed hexstring: This ClamAV version has reached End of Life! 
>> Please upgrade to version 0.95 or later. For more information see
>> www.clamav.net/eol-clamav-094 and www.clamav.net/download (length: 
>> 169)
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:18.297278500 LibClamAV Error: Problem parsing 
>> database at line 742
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:18.301314500 LibClamAV Error: Can't load
>> /tmp/clamav-57f6aafd0f6af059076857b8b2e9ef3b/daily.ndb: Malformed 
>> database
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:18.304476500 LibClamAV Error: Can't load
>> /usr/share/clamav/daily.cvd: Malformed database
>> 2010-04-15 17:39:18.304538500 ERROR: Malformed database
>>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] how to set up a replicated Qmail toaster system

[Patrick Ring]

You have to subscribe to the video magazine.
It's very well priced for what you get!
 
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From: Malik Madni [mailto:m4madnima...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:28 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] how to set up a replicated Qmail toaster system


how can i find the help about "how to set up a replicated Qmail toaster
system"? as on http://video.qmailtoaster.com there are not a complete
videos. so kinldy help us in this regard.
 




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RE: [qmailtoaster] GONE

[Patrick Ring]

So baremetal QMT install then ...


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-Original Message-
From: madmac [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 4:13 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] GONE

Nope, standalone HP rack serevr 4 gb ram Xeon processor, 160 Gb HDD


Patrick Ring wrote:
> Is this running on a VMWare ESXi guest? 
>
>
> Patrick M. Ring
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> -Original Message-
> From: madmac [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:16 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] GONE
>
> Here is th error the users are getting; Error. Domain xyz.com was not 
> found in the assign file But it is in the assigns file , 
> /var/qmail/users/assign Also, I use the unlimited Qcontrol, when i go 
> in and reset the users password and quota etc, it says it change , But

> when I go back in, the same thing in the qcontrol windows are messed 
> up , IE the users passwords and name and quota.
> I tried to delete the domain, enterd YES to the question, but it dows 
> not delete either.
>
> Thanks
>
> madmac wrote:
>   
>> Update 2
>> I connected to the databes using, Navicvat mysql, Everything looks OK

>> in the vpopmail database and domain/users info is correct.
>>
>>
>> madmac wrote:
>> 
>>> I am thinking the assing file is corrupt as some users are getting 
>>> an
>>>   
>
>   
>>> error saying something about assign?
>>> Any Ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> madmac wrote:
>>>   
>>>> update:
>>>> I can still send email to and from that server, IE this email
>>>> 
> account
>   
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> madmac wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Got a call from some clients,
>>>>> they can no longer access email/webmail
>>>>>
>>>>> I log in to my server at http//ipaddress/qcontrol list domains:
>>>>>
>>>>> All gone??/
>>>>>
>>>>> What file keeps track of the domains? and use IDs and password ?
>>>>> Is it mysql?
>>>>> Is there anyway to get the daya back
>>>>>
>>>>> All the folders are still there /home/vpopmai/domains/
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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RE: [qmailtoaster] GONE

[Patrick Ring]

Is this running on a VMWare ESXi guest? 


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-Original Message-
From: madmac [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 3:16 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] GONE

Here is th error the users are getting;
Error. Domain xyz.com was not found in the assign file But it is in the
assigns file , /var/qmail/users/assign Also, I use the unlimited
Qcontrol, when i go in and reset the users password and quota etc, it
says it change , But when I go back in, the same thing in the qcontrol
windows are messed up , IE the users passwords and name and quota.
I tried to delete the domain, enterd YES to the question, but it dows
not delete either.

Thanks

madmac wrote:
> Update 2
> I connected to the databes using, Navicvat mysql, Everything looks OK 
> in the vpopmail database and domain/users info is correct.
>
>
> madmac wrote:
>> I am thinking the assing file is corrupt as some users are getting an

>> error saying something about assign?
>> Any Ideas.
>>
>>
>> madmac wrote:
>>> update:
>>> I can still send email to and from that server, IE this email
account
>>> ?
>>>
>>> madmac wrote:
 Got a call from some clients,
 they can no longer access email/webmail

 I log in to my server at http//ipaddress/qcontrol
 list domains:

 All gone??/

 What file keeps track of the domains? and use IDs and password ?
 Is it mysql?
 Is there anyway to get the daya back

 All the folders are still there /home/vpopmai/domains/

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Videos

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I'll second that!  Thank you Jake! 


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-Original Message-
From: sysadmin [mailto:sysad...@tricubemedia.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:38 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Videos

On behalf of the company I work for , I would like to give a great big
thanks to Jake for thr Qmail Toaster Replication videos, we recently
purchsed.

The Videos are a great teaching tool,
We actually go more bang for our bucks, we can deploy the same
principles, it seems to any mysql database replication.

I do remember checking on the official myslq site for replication, but
their method was just blowing my mind.

You have simplified the process, and that is just Awesome.
Again , Awsome videos Jake
Money well spent.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Backup QMT

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Yes. There is a RPM for QMT-Plus to be installed after you've installed
and updated QMT.
 
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From: Anderson Alves de Albuquerque [mailto:anderso...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 9:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Backup QMT



Does I need install QMT and after install QMT Plus?




On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Eric Shubert  wrote:


qmailtoaster-plus is highly recommended. There are many very
useful things there. 


Anderson Alves de Albuquerque wrote:



 I think that I need only do backup of /home/vpopmail
and /var/qmail.

 After install QMT Am I install QMT Plus?

 

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Eric Shubert
mailto:e...@shubes.net>> wrote:

   There are many parts. The qtp-backup scripts, which
is part of the
   qmailtoaster-plus package
(http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com) backs up
   everything. I would refer to that script.


   Anderson Alves de Albuquerque wrote:



What are the directory that I need to do backup
in QMT?



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: newmodel fail (on QMT5)

[Patrick Ring]

That worked... 
Must have been the flakey WAN line.
 
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From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:24 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: newmodel fail (on QMT5)

The downloaded source rpm is corrupted. Remove the source rpm from
/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/ and run qtp-newmodel again.

Jake, this appears to be happening a little more frequently lately. 
Maybe we should think about putting md5sum and/or sha1sum files on the
web site. If you put the files out there, I'll modify qtp-newmodel to
check them. One file per package seems easiest to me, but one file with
all of the package sums in it is workable too.

Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK, after giving up on the older QMT4 (ISO based on CentOS4) I 
> purchased the QMT5 ISO (from VCG).
>  
> The install went well, and I ran 'yum -y update' immediately after the

> successful install.  All went well.
> I rebooted, and ran qtp-newmodel (from qtp-menu) It was clipping along

> well until it tries to install ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9.src.rpm at

> which point it say it "cannot be installed".
> A message "Build failed exiting" is then presented and when you press 
> Enter, it goes back to qtp-menu.
>  
> Is there something I'm missing?...or doing wrong.
>  
> Here is the build-recent.log:
> 
> 
> REMOVED control-panel-toaster from sandbox (not for real)
> 
> Building daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 ...
> 
> Installing 
> /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6.src.rpm
> 
> Building target platforms: i686
> 
> Building for target i686
> 
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.25077
> 
> + umask 022
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + LANG=C
> 
> + export LANG
> 
> + unset DISPLAY
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + rm -rf daemontools-0.76
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76.tar.bz2
> 
> + tar -xf -
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> + cd daemontools-0.76
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chown -Rhf root .
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
> 
> + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .
> 
> + echo 'Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):'
> 
> Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -d
> 
> + patch -p0 -s
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + /bin/mkdir -p daemontools-0.76
> 
> + cd daemontools-0.76
> 
> + tar -xf -
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc 
> + /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76-man.tar.bz2
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chown -Rhf root .
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
> 
> + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc ']'
> 
> + echo gcc
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'
> 
> + cat
> 
> + chmod u+x /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
> + /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
>  
> 
>  RPM RELEASE: 
> daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 
> 
>  OS TYPE IS : CentOS 5 Linux 
> 
>  BUILD DATE : Sun Jun 14 2009 
> 
>  CCFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic 
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables 
> 
>  LDFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic 
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables 
> 
>  
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'
> 
> + rm -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
> + exit 0
> 
> Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29248
> 
> + umask 022
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + cd daemontools-0.76
> 
> + LANG=C
> 
> + export LANG
> 
> + unset DISPLAY
> 
> + '[' -n /var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76 -a
> /var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: newmodel fail (on QMT5)

[Patrick Ring]

I had a feeling about that, but was not sure.  So, I figured I'd ask
before making a mess.
I know that one of my WAN's is having troubles, so a corrupt
(downloaded) RPM is possible.

I'll try again shortly and let you know.

Thank you,
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From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 1:24 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: newmodel fail (on QMT5)

The downloaded source rpm is corrupted. Remove the source rpm from
/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/ and run qtp-newmodel again.

Jake, this appears to be happening a little more frequently lately. 
Maybe we should think about putting md5sum and/or sha1sum files on the
web site. If you put the files out there, I'll modify qtp-newmodel to
check them. One file per package seems easiest to me, but one file with
all of the package sums in it is workable too.

Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK, after giving up on the older QMT4 (ISO based on CentOS4) I 
> purchased the QMT5 ISO (from VCG).
>  
> The install went well, and I ran 'yum -y update' immediately after the

> successful install.  All went well.
> I rebooted, and ran qtp-newmodel (from qtp-menu) It was clipping along

> well until it tries to install ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9.src.rpm at

> which point it say it "cannot be installed".
> A message "Build failed exiting" is then presented and when you press 
> Enter, it goes back to qtp-menu.
>  
> Is there something I'm missing?...or doing wrong.
>  
> Here is the build-recent.log:
> 
> 
> REMOVED control-panel-toaster from sandbox (not for real)
> 
> Building daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 ...
> 
> Installing 
> /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6.src.rpm
> 
> Building target platforms: i686
> 
> Building for target i686
> 
> Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.25077
> 
> + umask 022
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + LANG=C
> 
> + export LANG
> 
> + unset DISPLAY
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + rm -rf daemontools-0.76
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76.tar.bz2
> 
> + tar -xf -
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> + cd daemontools-0.76
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chown -Rhf root .
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
> 
> + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .
> 
> + echo 'Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):'
> 
> Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -d
> 
> + patch -p0 -s
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + /bin/mkdir -p daemontools-0.76
> 
> + cd daemontools-0.76
> 
> + tar -xf -
> 
> + /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc 
> + /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76-man.tar.bz2
> 
> + STATUS=0
> 
> + '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chown -Rhf root .
> 
> ++ /usr/bin/id -u
> 
> + '[' 0 = 0 ']'
> 
> + /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .
> 
> + /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc ']'
> 
> + echo gcc
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'
> 
> + cat
> 
> + chmod u+x /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
> + /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
>  
> 
>  RPM RELEASE: 
> daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 
> 
>  OS TYPE IS : CentOS 5 Linux 
> 
>  BUILD DATE : Sun Jun 14 2009 
> 
>  CCFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic 
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables 
> 
>  LDFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
> -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
> --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic 
> -fasynchronous-unwind-tables 
> 
>  
> 
> + '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'
> 
> + rm -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags
> 
> + exit 0
> 
> Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29248
> 
> + umask 022
> 
> + cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD
> 
> + cd daemontools-0

[qmailtoaster] newmodel fail (on QMT5)

[Patrick Ring]

OK, after giving up on the older QMT4 (ISO based on CentOS4) I purchased
the QMT5 ISO (from VCG).
 
The install went well, and I ran 'yum -y update' immediately after the
successful install.  All went well.
I rebooted, and ran qtp-newmodel (from qtp-menu)
It was clipping along well until it tries to install
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9.src.rpm at which point it say it "cannot be
installed".
A message "Build failed exiting" is then presented and when you press
Enter, it goes back to qtp-menu.
 
Is there something I'm missing?...or doing wrong.
 
Here is the build-recent.log:

REMOVED control-panel-toaster from sandbox (not for real)

Building daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 ...

Installing
/usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS/daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6.src.rpm

Building target platforms: i686

Building for target i686

Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.25077

+ umask 022

+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD

+ LANG=C

+ export LANG

+ unset DISPLAY

+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD

+ rm -rf daemontools-0.76

+ /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76.tar.bz2

+ tar -xf -

+ STATUS=0

+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'

+ cd daemontools-0.76

++ /usr/bin/id -u

+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'

+ /bin/chown -Rhf root .

++ /usr/bin/id -u

+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'

+ /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .

+ /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .

+ echo 'Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):'

Patch #0 (daemontools-toaster-errno.patch.bz2):

+ /usr/bin/bzip2 -d

+ patch -p0 -s

+ STATUS=0

+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'

+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD

+ /bin/mkdir -p daemontools-0.76

+ cd daemontools-0.76

+ tar -xf -

+ /usr/bin/bzip2 -dc
/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/daemontools-0.76-man.tar.bz2

+ STATUS=0

+ '[' 0 -ne 0 ']'

++ /usr/bin/id -u

+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'

+ /bin/chown -Rhf root .

++ /usr/bin/id -u

+ '[' 0 = 0 ']'

+ /bin/chgrp -Rhf root .

+ /bin/chmod -Rf a+rX,u+w,g-w,o-w .

+ '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc ']'

+ echo gcc

+ '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'

+ cat

+ chmod u+x /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags

+ /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags

 

 RPM RELEASE:
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6 

 OS TYPE IS : CentOS 5 Linux 

 BUILD DATE : Sun Jun 14 2009 

 CCFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables 

 LDFLAGS : -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686 -mtune=generic
-fasynchronous-unwind-tables 

 

+ '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags ']'

+ rm -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-show_flags

+ exit 0

Executing(%build): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29248

+ umask 022

+ cd /usr/src/redhat/BUILD

+ cd daemontools-0.76

+ LANG=C

+ export LANG

+ unset DISPLAY

+ '[' -n /var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76 -a
/var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76 '!=' / ']'

+ rm -rf /var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76

+ mkdir -p /var/tmp/daemontools-toaster-0.76

++ cat /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc

+ echo 'gcc -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686
-mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables'

++ cat /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc

+ echo 'gcc -s -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions
-fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m32 -march=i686
-mtune=generic -fasynchronous-unwind-tables'

+ '[' -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc ']'

+ rm -f /var/tmp/daemontools-0.76-gcc

+ echo /usr

+ package/compile

Linking ./src/* into ./compile...

Compiling everything in ./compile...

sh find-systype.sh > systype

rm -f compile

sh print-cc.sh > compile

chmod 555 compile

./compile byte_chr.c

./compile byte_copy.c

./compile byte_cr.c

./compile byte_diff.c

./compile byte_rchr.c

./compile fmt_uint.c

./compile fmt_uint0.c

./compile fmt_ulong.c

rm -f makelib

sh print-ar.sh > makelib

chmod 555 makelib

./compile scan_ulong.c

./compile str_chr.c

./compile str_diff.c

./compile str_len.c

./compile str_start.c

./makelib byte.a byte_chr.o byte_copy.o byte_cr.o byte_diff.o \

byte_rchr.o fmt_uint.o fmt_uint0.o fmt_ulong.o scan_ulong.o str_chr.o \

str_diff.o str_len.o str_start.o

rm -f choose

cat warn-auto.sh choose.sh \

| sed s}HOME}"`head -1 home`"}g \

> choose

chmod 555 choose

./choose c trydrent direntry.h1 direntry.h2 > direntry.h

./compile envdir.c

envdir.c: In function 'main':

envdir.c:86: warning: control reaches end of non-void function

rm -f load

sh print-ld.sh > load

chmod 555 load

./compile alloc.c

./compile alloc_re.c

./compile buffer.c

./compile buffer_0.c

./compile buffer_1.c

./compile buffer_2.c

./compile buffer_get.c

./compile buffer_put.c

./compile buffer_read.c

./compile buffer_write.c

./compile coe.c

./compile env.c

./compile 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to start

[Patrick Ring]

I did stumble across that (I forget where), but I originally tried to run the 
queue-fix-1.4 program, but could not get it to compile properly, so I did 
create the (named-pipe) trigger file.  Afterward queue_repair.py did run 
through, but complained of mode problems (644 vs 600) in the todo and intd 
folders.

Things seem to be working better now.  I'll post more of the details later this 
evening.

Thank you,
Patrick Ring.


-Original Message-
From: news on behalf of Eric Shubert
Sent: Sat 1/16/2010 7:03 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to 
start
 
That's precisely the error that qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.19 has. It 
(inadvertently) dropped the queue trigger file. Version 1.3.20 
(published on 10/1/09) fixes that problem. Also, the latest qtp-newmodel 
runs queue_repair.py just to make sure things are in order.

Does queue_repair.py create the queue trigger file? If not, upgrading to 
1.3.20 will fix your problem. Or you can:
# mkfifo/var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
# chown /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
# chmod 622 /var/qmail/queue/lock/trigger
then run queue_repair.py again just to make sure things are as they 
should be.

Sorry about that 1.3.19 version. That was my doing, and was changed in 
order for the package to work with the new fuse-unionfs. You must've 
grabbed that source in late September and just recently installed it.
-- 
-Eric 'shubes'

Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK.  I just ran queue_repair.py and the result I got had an ending that makes 
> me uncomfortable:
> ---
>   checking directory queue/info/4...
>   checking directory queue/info/5...
>   checking directory queue/info/6...
>   checking directory queue/info/7...
>   checking directory queue/info/8...
>   checking directory queue/info/9...
>   checking directory queue/info/10...
>   checking directory queue/info/11...
>   checking directory queue/info/12...
>   checking directory queue/info/13...
>   checking directory queue/info/14...
>   checking directory queue/info/15...
>   checking directory queue/info/16...
>   checking directory queue/info/17...
>   checking directory queue/info/18...
>   checking directory queue/info/19...
>   checking directory queue/info/20...
>   checking directory queue/info/21...
>   checking directory queue/info/22...
> checking files...
>   queue/lock/trigger missing
> [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'queue/lock/trigger'
> ---
> I was running it in a screen session, so the (copyable) text only goes back a 
> little way.
> 
> A run of the command  gives:
> autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.6
> clamav-toaster-0.95.2-1.3.30
> control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.7
> courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.2-1.3.10
> courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.10
> daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6
> ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
> ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
> isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.7
> libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.6
> libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.6
> maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.8
> maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.8
> qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.12-1.3.8
> qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.6
> qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.19
> qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.19
> qmailtoaster-plus-0.3.1-1.4.11
> qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.1-1
> ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.6
> send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.7
> simscan-toaster-1.4.0-1.3.8
> spamassassin-toaster-3.2.5-1.3.17
> squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.19-1.3.15
> ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9
> vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7
> vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.6
> 
> This was up-to-date as of Jun 2009.  (I know I should keep it up more, but 
> when something works)
> 
> Anyway, I'm going to see what happens if I start QMail again, but the end of 
> the output of the repair script shows something is missing.
> 
> Please advise.
> 
> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: news on behalf of Eric Shubert
> Sent: Fri 1/15/2010 2:11 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where 
> to start
>  
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>> I saw that float across the list either yesterday or this morning 
>> I'll run a backup and give it a try.
>> (I think I saw that it was suggested to have the qmail services stopped, 
>> correct?)
> 
> Yes, that is correct.
> 
> Let us know if this fixes you up.
> 
> Any idea what might have caused this? Which versions are you running?
> (rpm -qa | grep toaster | sort)
> 
>> Thank you,
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to start

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I just ran queue_repair.py and the result I got had an ending that makes 
me uncomfortable:
---
  checking directory queue/info/4...
  checking directory queue/info/5...
  checking directory queue/info/6...
  checking directory queue/info/7...
  checking directory queue/info/8...
  checking directory queue/info/9...
  checking directory queue/info/10...
  checking directory queue/info/11...
  checking directory queue/info/12...
  checking directory queue/info/13...
  checking directory queue/info/14...
  checking directory queue/info/15...
  checking directory queue/info/16...
  checking directory queue/info/17...
  checking directory queue/info/18...
  checking directory queue/info/19...
  checking directory queue/info/20...
  checking directory queue/info/21...
  checking directory queue/info/22...
checking files...
  queue/lock/trigger missing
[Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'queue/lock/trigger'
---
I was running it in a screen session, so the (copyable) text only goes back a 
little way.

A run of the command  gives:
autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.6
clamav-toaster-0.95.2-1.3.30
control-panel-toaster-0.5-1.3.7
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59.2-1.3.10
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.10
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.6
ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.6
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.7
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.6
libsrs2-toaster-1.0.18-1.3.6
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.8
maildrop-toaster-devel-2.0.3-1.3.8
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.12-1.3.8
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.6
qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.19
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.19
qmailtoaster-plus-0.3.1-1.4.11
qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.1-1
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.6
send-emails-toaster-0.5-1.3.7
simscan-toaster-1.4.0-1.3.8
spamassassin-toaster-3.2.5-1.3.17
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.19-1.3.15
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.9
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.17-1.3.7
vqadmin-toaster-2.3.4-1.3.6

This was up-to-date as of Jun 2009.  (I know I should keep it up more, but when 
something works)

Anyway, I'm going to see what happens if I start QMail again, but the end of 
the output of the repair script shows something is missing.

Please advise.

Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring


-Original Message-
From: news on behalf of Eric Shubert
Sent: Fri 1/15/2010 2:11 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to 
start
 
Patrick Ring wrote:
> I saw that float across the list either yesterday or this morning 
> I'll run a backup and give it a try.
> (I think I saw that it was suggested to have the qmail services stopped, 
> correct?)

Yes, that is correct.

Let us know if this fixes you up.

Any idea what might have caused this? Which versions are you running?
(rpm -qa | grep toaster | sort)

> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
> 
> 
> *From:* Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 1:29 PM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure 
> where to start
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> I had the same problem and running the queue repair did the trick.  
> Maybe someone else can chime in on procedure, but I think I just stopped 
> everything ran the queue repair and restarted everything and viola'
> 
> CJ
> 
> On 01/15/2010 10:52 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>> QMT list,
>>  
>> I'm noticing on my live email server (hosting about 100 accounts) that 
>> most (if not all) emails are taking anywhere from 15min to 12hr to 
>> make it into the Inboxes.
>> What is strange is if I "tail" the "/var/log/qmail/smtp/current", it 
>> shows the email entering the system almost immediately after it is 
>> sent, but it takes a long time to get to the inbox.
>>  
>> I also noticed that after hours it picks up a little, but still takes 
>> 15 - 20 minutes for deliver to the inbox.
>>  
>> I'm not really sure where the slowdown/holdup is occurring.
>> What should I look at first?
>>  
>> Thank you,
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>  
> 
> -- 
> Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj"
> cj's
> 2318 Clement Ave
> Alameda, CA  94501
> 
> tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300
> http://yother.com


-- 
-Eric 'shubes'


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to start

[Patrick Ring]

I should be able to try the queue repair script tomorrow (Backup was taking 
too long and I've got to be out of town)

I'll also send the versions of what I've got
If memory serves: I loaded the system with CentOS 5.1 and it was done and 
up-to-date on June 9, 2009

I'll give more detail this weekend when I can run that script.

Thank you,
Pat Ring
--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device


-Original Message-
From: news 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Fri Jan 15 14:11:39 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to 
start

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I saw that float across the list either yesterday or this morning 
> I'll run a backup and give it a try.
> (I think I saw that it was suggested to have the qmail services stopped, 
> correct?)

Yes, that is correct.

Let us know if this fixes you up.

Any idea what might have caused this? Which versions are you running?
(rpm -qa | grep toaster | sort)

> Thank you,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
> 
> 
> *From:* Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2010 1:29 PM
> *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure 
> where to start
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> I had the same problem and running the queue repair did the trick.  
> Maybe someone else can chime in on procedure, but I think I just stopped 
> everything ran the queue repair and restarted everything and viola'
> 
> CJ
> 
> On 01/15/2010 10:52 AM, Patrick Ring wrote:
>> QMT list,
>>  
>> I'm noticing on my live email server (hosting about 100 accounts) that 
>> most (if not all) emails are taking anywhere from 15min to 12hr to 
>> make it into the Inboxes.
>> What is strange is if I "tail" the "/var/log/qmail/smtp/current", it 
>> shows the email entering the system almost immediately after it is 
>> sent, but it takes a long time to get to the inbox.
>>  
>> I also noticed that after hours it picks up a little, but still takes 
>> 15 - 20 minutes for deliver to the inbox.
>>  
>> I'm not really sure where the slowdown/holdup is occurring.
>> What should I look at first?
>>  
>> Thank you,
>> Patrick M. Ring
>> P. Ring Technologies
>> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
>> 985-868-4200
>>  
> 
> -- 
> Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj"
> cj's
> 2318 Clement Ave
> Alameda, CA  94501
> 
> tel 510.865.2787 | fax 510.864.7300
> http://yother.com


-- 
-Eric 'shubes'


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RE: [qmailtoaster] emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to start

[Patrick Ring]

I saw that float across the list either yesterday or this morning
I'll run a backup and give it a try.
(I think I saw that it was suggested to have the qmail services stopped,
correct?)
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 



From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:29 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure
where to start


Patrick,

I had the same problem and running the queue repair did the trick.
Maybe someone else can chime in on procedure, but I think I just stopped
everything ran the queue repair and restarted everything and viola'

CJ

On 01/15/2010 10:52 AM, Patrick Ring wrote: 

QMT list,
 
I'm noticing on my live email server (hosting about 100
accounts) that most (if not all) emails are taking anywhere from 15min
to 12hr to make it into the Inboxes.
What is strange is if I "tail" the
"/var/log/qmail/smtp/current", it shows the email entering the system
almost immediately after it is sent, but it takes a long time to get to
the inbox.
 
I also noticed that after hours it picks up a little, but still
takes 15 - 20 minutes for deliver to the inbox.
 
I'm not really sure where the slowdown/holdup is occurring.
What should I look at first?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 


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[qmailtoaster] emails taking forever: I'm not quite sure where to start

[Patrick Ring]

QMT list,
 
I'm noticing on my live email server (hosting about 100 accounts) that
most (if not all) emails are taking anywhere from 15min to 12hr to make
it into the Inboxes.
What is strange is if I "tail" the "/var/log/qmail/smtp/current", it
shows the email entering the system almost immediately after it is sent,
but it takes a long time to get to the inbox.
 
I also noticed that after hours it picks up a little, but still takes 15
- 20 minutes for deliver to the inbox.
 
I'm not really sure where the slowdown/holdup is occurring.
What should I look at first?
 
Thank you,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

Interesting I notice now that there are 2 kernels listed in the
splash screen (grub)(...one is SMP and the other is not).  I'll check on
that.  However, "newmodel" errors out at the same spot if I install QMT
ISO, reboot, and run newmodel (no "yum update").  I'll check that
though.

Thanks,

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:c...@yother.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 6:14 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

Are you certain you're booting the proper kernel.  I ran into the very
same problem and never did figure out how to get it to boot into the
proper kernel.

CJ

On 01/04/2010 03:51 PM, Patrick Ring wrote:
> OK.  I finally got back to working on this. (sorry for the delay)
>
> I tried a "yum install kernel-smp-devel" (installed/complete), 
> rebooted, then tried running the newmodel script.  Got the same
errors.
>
> Should I attempt to download/build the fuse and see where this takes
me?
>
> My goal, originally, was just to make a quick-and-dirty test server 
> based on the older QMT ISO (w/ CentOS 4.x)... Though it has become a 
> bit of a challenge (for the update). It's running in a VMWare ESXi 3.5

> instance.  I guess the only reason I wanted to update was for the 
> up-to-date SPAM, virus, etc. (I know the def's update frequently as 
> cron's, but I figured patched programs)
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Borg [mailto:b...@borgnet.ro]
> Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:24 PM
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?
>
> The upgrade from 4.8 to 5.4 put only the smp kernel. I hand installed 
> the kernel-smp-devel. Maybe is an issue with the fact that smp kernel 
> is the default kernel installed by the new version?
> On the other hand, we are talking about a major upgrade to a higher 
> version. I didn't expected to run so smoothly. The problem with 
> fuse.ko and ltld.h were the only I had. I made two upgrades, one in 
> vmware and one on a physical machine, both with the same problem but
easily fixed.
> How is your install Patrick?
>
> Eric Shubert wrote:
>   
>> I don't believe that autofs comes into play with fuse and unionfs, 
>> which is what qtp-newmodel uses now.
>>
>> On the other hand, a missing fuse.ko module is consistent with the 
>> error message(s) we're seeing. That's likely the problem. I'm not 
>> positive where that module comes from. I think it's built as part of 
>> the installation of the dkms-fuse package.
>>
>> If kernel-smp-devel is missing (and you're running the smp kernel), 
>> that's likely the culprit. Such a dependency might be missing. I'd 
>> like to get this fixed if we can pin this down.
>>
>> Borg wrote:
>> 
>>> I forgot, here's all i have done. In my case fuse was installed but 
>>> fuse.ko missing. I installed kernel headers for current running 
>>> kernel and fuse sources then I rebuilt fuse.ko. For fuse sources I 
>>> have fuse-2.7.4-1.nodist package. In fuse source you'll find script 
>>> for config and install. I run ./configure, ./install-sh, make and 
>>> make install. Then modprobe fuse run swiftly and newmodel had no 
>>> problems further.
>>> Maybe autofs is not needed but it was a trial and error to find the 
>>> problem with fuse.
>>>
>>>
>>> Borg wrote:
>>>   
>>>> I cheched bash history and I am sure I started autofs right before 
>>>> running newmodel. And found a new thing. Although fuse reports to 
>>>> be
>>>> 
>   
>>>> installed, fuse.ko is missing, so I had to install kernel-headers 
>>>> and in my case kernel-smp-devel.
>>>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I did run across a thread on this list that talked about disabling

>>>>> autofs... So, do you think I need to make sure it is ON and not 
>>>>> 0FF
>>>>>   
>   
>>>>> then?
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Patrick Ring
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Borg 
>>>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.

RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

OK.  I finally got back to working on this. (sorry for the delay)

I tried a "yum install kernel-smp-devel" (installed/complete), rebooted,
then tried running the newmodel script.  Got the same errors.

Should I attempt to download/build the fuse and see where this takes me?

My goal, originally, was just to make a quick-and-dirty test server
based on the older QMT ISO (w/ CentOS 4.x)... Though it has become a bit
of a challenge (for the update). It's running in a VMWare ESXi 3.5
instance.  I guess the only reason I wanted to update was for the
up-to-date SPAM, virus, etc. (I know the def's update frequently as
cron's, but I figured patched programs)

Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Borg [mailto:b...@borgnet.ro] 
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 5:24 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

The upgrade from 4.8 to 5.4 put only the smp kernel. I hand installed
the kernel-smp-devel. Maybe is an issue with the fact that smp kernel is
the default kernel installed by the new version?
On the other hand, we are talking about a major upgrade to a higher
version. I didn't expected to run so smoothly. The problem with fuse.ko
and ltld.h were the only I had. I made two upgrades, one in vmware and
one on a physical machine, both with the same problem but easily fixed.
How is your install Patrick?

Eric Shubert wrote:
> I don't believe that autofs comes into play with fuse and unionfs, 
> which is what qtp-newmodel uses now.
>
> On the other hand, a missing fuse.ko module is consistent with the 
> error message(s) we're seeing. That's likely the problem. I'm not 
> positive where that module comes from. I think it's built as part of 
> the installation of the dkms-fuse package.
>
> If kernel-smp-devel is missing (and you're running the smp kernel), 
> that's likely the culprit. Such a dependency might be missing. I'd 
> like to get this fixed if we can pin this down.
>
> Borg wrote:
>> I forgot, here's all i have done. In my case fuse was installed but 
>> fuse.ko missing. I installed kernel headers for current running 
>> kernel and fuse sources then I rebuilt fuse.ko. For fuse sources I 
>> have fuse-2.7.4-1.nodist package. In fuse source you'll find script 
>> for config and install. I run ./configure, ./install-sh, make and 
>> make install. Then modprobe fuse run swiftly and newmodel had no 
>> problems further.
>> Maybe autofs is not needed but it was a trial and error to find the 
>> problem with fuse.
>>
>>
>> Borg wrote:
>>> I cheched bash history and I am sure I started autofs right before 
>>> running newmodel. And found a new thing. Although fuse reports to be

>>> installed, fuse.ko is missing, so I had to install kernel-headers 
>>> and in my case kernel-smp-devel.
>>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did run across a thread on this list that talked about disabling 
>>>> autofs... So, do you think I need to make sure it is ON and not 0FF

>>>> then?
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Patrick Ring
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Borg 
>>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: Sat Jan 02 04:51:24 2010
>>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Has something changed in QT?
>>>>
>>>> Hello to all.
>>>> I stumbled across the same problem. I installed qmt iso based on
>>>> centos4
>>>> then updated to 4.8. After that I booted the last centos5 from dvd 
>>>> and upgraded. Then when tried to newmodel, got the same error. But 
>>>> is only a matter of installing dkms-fuse and, do not forget to 
>>>> /etc/init/d/autofs start. I think the autofs is the answer. Then 
>>>> everything went ok.
>>>> Also,
>>>> later on configuring i remember i had to manually install 
>>>> libtool-ltld-devel to provide ltld.h.
>>>> Sorry if i am not explaining very exactly but I made all these last

>>>> year in october and i do not remember all the operations step by 
>>>> step. Hope this help.
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Aristotel Neamtu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>>> > I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster 
>>>> > ISO (CentOS 4.X).
>>>> > > I'm

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

I haven't yet gotten back to it...just got back into town.  I'll hopefully get 
some time tonight.
Thanks,
Pat.

--
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-Original Message-
From: Borg 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Sat Jan 02 17:24:08 2010
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?

The upgrade from 4.8 to 5.4 put only the smp kernel. I hand installed 
the kernel-smp-devel. Maybe is an issue with the fact that smp kernel is 
the default kernel installed by the new version?
On the other hand, we are talking about a major upgrade to a higher 
version. I didn't expected to run so smoothly. The problem with fuse.ko 
and ltld.h were the only I had. I made two upgrades, one in vmware and 
one on a physical machine, both with the same problem but easily fixed.
How is your install Patrick?

Eric Shubert wrote:
> I don't believe that autofs comes into play with fuse and unionfs, 
> which is what qtp-newmodel uses now.
>
> On the other hand, a missing fuse.ko module is consistent with the 
> error message(s) we're seeing. That's likely the problem. I'm not 
> positive where that module comes from. I think it's built as part of 
> the installation of the dkms-fuse package.
>
> If kernel-smp-devel is missing (and you're running the smp kernel), 
> that's likely the culprit. Such a dependency might be missing. I'd 
> like to get this fixed if we can pin this down.
>
> Borg wrote:
>> I forgot, here's all i have done. In my case fuse was installed but 
>> fuse.ko missing. I installed kernel headers for current running 
>> kernel and fuse sources then I rebuilt fuse.ko. For fuse sources I 
>> have fuse-2.7.4-1.nodist package. In fuse source you'll find script 
>> for config and install. I run ./configure, ./install-sh, make and 
>> make install. Then modprobe fuse run swiftly and newmodel had no 
>> problems further.
>> Maybe autofs is not needed but it was a trial and error to find the 
>> problem with fuse.
>>
>>
>> Borg wrote:
>>> I cheched bash history and I am sure I started autofs right before 
>>> running newmodel. And found a new thing. Although fuse reports to be 
>>> installed, fuse.ko is missing, so I had to install kernel-headers 
>>> and in my case kernel-smp-devel.
>>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I did run across a thread on this list that talked about disabling 
>>>> autofs... So, do you think I need to make sure it is ON and not 0FF 
>>>> then?
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Patrick Ring
>>>> --
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Borg 
>>>> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent: Sat Jan 02 04:51:24 2010
>>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Has something changed in QT?
>>>>
>>>> Hello to all.
>>>> I stumbled across the same problem. I installed qmt iso based on 
>>>> centos4
>>>> then updated to 4.8. After that I booted the last centos5 from dvd and
>>>> upgraded. Then when tried to newmodel, got the same error. But is 
>>>> only a
>>>> matter of installing dkms-fuse and, do not forget to 
>>>> /etc/init/d/autofs
>>>> start. I think the autofs is the answer. Then everything went ok. 
>>>> Also,
>>>> later on configuring i remember i had to manually install
>>>> libtool-ltld-devel to provide ltld.h.
>>>> Sorry if i am not explaining very exactly but I made all these last 
>>>> year
>>>> in october and i do not remember all the operations step by step. Hope
>>>> this help.
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Aristotel Neamtu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Ring wrote:
>>>> > I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO
>>>> > (CentOS 4.X).
>>>> > > I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out
>>>> > when it goes to mount the sandbox.
>>>> > In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not used
>>>> > the QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then
>>>> > built/loaded QT)
>>>> > > Specifically the errors occur right after
>>>> > Installing:  fuse
>>>> > Installing:  kernel-devel
>>>> > Installing:  dkms
>>>> > Installing:  fuse-uni

Re: [qmailtoaster] Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

I did run across a thread on this list that talked about disabling autofs... 
So, do you think I need to make sure it is ON and not 0FF then?
Thank you,
Patrick Ring
--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device


-Original Message-
From: Borg 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Sat Jan 02 04:51:24 2010
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Has something changed in QT?

Hello to all.
I stumbled across the same problem. I installed qmt iso based on centos4 
then updated to 4.8. After that I booted the last centos5 from dvd and 
upgraded. Then when tried to newmodel, got the same error. But is only a 
matter of installing dkms-fuse and, do not forget to /etc/init/d/autofs 
start. I think the autofs is the answer. Then everything went ok. Also, 
later on configuring i remember i had to manually install 
libtool-ltld-devel to provide ltld.h.
Sorry if i am not explaining very exactly but I made all these last year 
in october and i do not remember all the operations step by step. Hope 
this help.
Regards.

Aristotel Neamtu


Patrick Ring wrote:
> I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO 
> (CentOS 4.X).
>  
> I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out 
> when it goes to mount the sandbox.
> In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not used 
> the QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then 
> built/loaded QT)
>  
> Specifically the errors occur right after
> Installing:  fuse
> Installing:  kernel-devel
> Installing:  dkms
> Installing:  fuse-unionfs
> Installing:  dkms-fuse
>  
> Installed:  dkms-fuse.noarch 0:2.7.4-1.nodist.rf fuse-unionfs.i386 
> 0:0.23-1.qtp
> Dependancy Installed:  dkms.noarch 0:2.0.22.0-1.el4.rf fuse.i386 
> 0:2.7.4-1.qtp kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.9-89.0.18.EL
>  
> Then right after it says "Complete!"
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> mount:  mount point /mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm does not exist
> cp:  '/mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm' : specified directory does not exist
> Try 'cp --help' for more information.
> qtp-mount-sandbox: sandbox was not mounted successfully
>  
> qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
>  
> Anyway, I've tried to perform newmodel both before and after a "yum 
> update", and I stumbled across a previous thread that recommended 
> turning off the "autofs" service.  No change either way.
>  
> Has something changed in the newmodel script?  Or is there something 
> different between the CentOS/QT from the ISO vs when I load manually?
>  
> Please advise.
> Thank you,
> Patrick Ring
>  
>  
>  
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  
>
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

I'll definitely post my methods and results. Thanks.
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-Original Message-
From: news 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Fri Jan 01 21:37:11 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?

Great. I'll be curious to know how you make out.

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I'm out of town right now, but I'll be able to work with it tomorrow 
> afternoon.
> 
> When I did last work with it, newmodel would start and download and then 
> look like it was going to run, and then right after the sandbox (as the 
> error portion I posted said) error out.
> 
> On the first attemp, I loaded the QMT ISO, rebooted, ran yum update (for 
> CentOS 4.8), rebooted, and ran newmodel. In trying to get it to work (on 
> that attempt), I also tried toggling the autofs service (found a QMT 
> list thread about that).
> 
> I appreciated the input, I'm going to keep trying when I get back 
> tomorrow. Worst case, I'll probably just load up a fresh load from 
> scratch (instead of the ISO)... The ISO was just so convenient.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick Ring
> 
> --
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: news 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> Sent: Fri Jan 01 20:37:56 2010
> Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?
> 
> Is it working now, or still not working?
> I don't recall precisely what might have happened that caused it to work
> ok after this failure, except possibly a reboot.
> 
> You should run
> # yum update
> and reboot before running the latest qtp-newmodel.
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>  > On the attempt (to run newmodel) where I had run the yum update, I did
>  > reboot after it was complete.
>  >
>  > I'm fairly certain I rebooted after the QMT ISO finished the install as
>  > well.
>  >
>  > In either case I had not done anything between the install and the new
>  > model script besides reboot.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Patrick Ring
>  > --
>  > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
>  >
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: news 
>  > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> 
>  > Sent: Thu Dec 31 17:21:10 2009
>  > Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?
>  >
>  > The fuse subsystem is fairly new to qtp-newmodel. It has been tested on
>  > current CentOS 4.
>  >
>  > I seem to remember having the same problem with CentOS5. Have you
>  > rebooted since you updated to the latest kernel?
>  >
>  > Patrick Ring wrote:
>  >  > I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO
>  >  > (CentOS 4.X).
>  >  >
>  >  > I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out 
> when
>  >  > it goes to mount the sandbox.
>  >  > In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not 
> used the
>  >  > QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then 
> built/loaded QT)
>  >  >
>  >  > Specifically the errors occur right after
>  >  > Installing:  fuse
>  >  > Installing:  kernel-devel
>  >  > Installing:  dkms
>  >  > Installing:  fuse-unionfs
>  >  > Installing:  dkms-fuse
>  >  >
>  >  > Installed:  dkms-fuse.noarch 0:2.7.4-1.nodist.rf fuse-unionfs.i386
>  >  > 0:0.23-1.qtp
>  >  > Dependancy Installed:  dkms.noarch 0:2.0.22.0-1.el4.rf fuse.i386
>  >  > 0:2.7.4-1.qtp kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.9-89.0.18.EL
>  >  >
>  >  > Then right after it says "Complete!"
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > FATAL: Module fuse not found.
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  >  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' firs

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

I'm out of town right now, but I'll be able to work with it tomorrow afternoon.

When I did last work with it, newmodel would start and download and then look 
like it was going to run, and then right after the sandbox (as the error 
portion I posted said) error out.

On the first attemp, I loaded the QMT ISO, rebooted, ran yum update (for CentOS 
4.8), rebooted, and ran newmodel. In trying to get it to work (on that 
attempt), I also tried toggling the autofs service (found a QMT list thread 
about that). 

I appreciated the input, I'm going to keep trying when I get back tomorrow. 
Worst case, I'll probably just load up a fresh load from scratch (instead of 
the ISO)... The ISO was just so convenient.

Thanks,
Patrick Ring

--
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device


-Original Message-
From: news 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Fri Jan 01 20:37:56 2010
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?

Is it working now, or still not working?
I don't recall precisely what might have happened that caused it to work 
ok after this failure, except possibly a reboot.

You should run
# yum update
and reboot before running the latest qtp-newmodel.

Patrick Ring wrote:
> On the attempt (to run newmodel) where I had run the yum update, I did 
> reboot after it was complete.
> 
> I'm fairly certain I rebooted after the QMT ISO finished the install as 
> well.
> 
> In either case I had not done anything between the install and the new 
> model script besides reboot.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick Ring
> --
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Device
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: news 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
> Sent: Thu Dec 31 17:21:10 2009
> Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?
> 
> The fuse subsystem is fairly new to qtp-newmodel. It has been tested on
> current CentOS 4.
> 
> I seem to remember having the same problem with CentOS5. Have you
> rebooted since you updated to the latest kernel?
> 
> Patrick Ring wrote:
>  > I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO
>  > (CentOS 4.X).
>  > 
>  > I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out when
>  > it goes to mount the sandbox.
>  > In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not used the
>  > QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then built/loaded QT)
>  > 
>  > Specifically the errors occur right after
>  > Installing:  fuse
>  > Installing:  kernel-devel
>  > Installing:  dkms
>  > Installing:  fuse-unionfs
>  > Installing:  dkms-fuse
>  > 
>  > Installed:  dkms-fuse.noarch 0:2.7.4-1.nodist.rf fuse-unionfs.i386
>  > 0:0.23-1.qtp
>  > Dependancy Installed:  dkms.noarch 0:2.0.22.0-1.el4.rf fuse.i386
>  > 0:2.7.4-1.qtp kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.9-89.0.18.EL
>  > 
>  > Then right after it says "Complete!"
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > FATAL: Module fuse not found.
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>  > mount:  mount point /mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm does not exist
>  > cp:  '/mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm' : specified directory does not exist
>  > Try 'cp --help' for more information.
>  > qtp-mount-sandbox: sandbox was not mounted successfully
>  > 
>  > qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
>  > 
>  > Anyway, I've tried to perform newmodel both before and after a "yum
>  > update", and I stumbled across a previous thread that recommended
>  > turning off the "autofs" service.  No change either way.
>  > 
>  > Has something changed in the newmodel script?  Or is there something
>  > different between the CentOS/QT from the ISO vs when I load manually?
>  > 
>  > Please advise.
>  > Thank you,
>  > Patrick Ring
&

Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

On the attempt (to run newmodel) where I had run the yum update, I did reboot 
after it was complete.

I'm fairly certain I rebooted after the QMT ISO finished the install as well.

In either case I had not done anything between the install and the new model 
script besides reboot.

Thanks,
Patrick Ring
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-Original Message-
From: news 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com 
Sent: Thu Dec 31 17:21:10 2009
Subject: [qmailtoaster]  Re: Has something changed in QT?

The fuse subsystem is fairly new to qtp-newmodel. It has been tested on 
current CentOS 4.

I seem to remember having the same problem with CentOS5. Have you 
rebooted since you updated to the latest kernel?

Patrick Ring wrote:
> I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO 
> (CentOS 4.X).
>  
> I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out when 
> it goes to mount the sandbox.
> In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not used the 
> QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then built/loaded QT)
>  
> Specifically the errors occur right after
> Installing:  fuse
> Installing:  kernel-devel
> Installing:  dkms
> Installing:  fuse-unionfs
> Installing:  dkms-fuse
>  
> Installed:  dkms-fuse.noarch 0:2.7.4-1.nodist.rf fuse-unionfs.i386 
> 0:0.23-1.qtp
> Dependancy Installed:  dkms.noarch 0:2.0.22.0-1.el4.rf fuse.i386 
> 0:2.7.4-1.qtp kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.9-89.0.18.EL
>  
> Then right after it says "Complete!"
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> FATAL: Module fuse not found.
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
> mount:  mount point /mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm does not exist
> cp:  '/mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm' : specified directory does not exist
> Try 'cp --help' for more information.
> qtp-mount-sandbox: sandbox was not mounted successfully
>  
> qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
>  
> Anyway, I've tried to perform newmodel both before and after a "yum 
> update", and I stumbled across a previous thread that recommended 
> turning off the "autofs" service.  No change either way.
>  
> Has something changed in the newmodel script?  Or is there something 
> different between the CentOS/QT from the ISO vs when I load manually?
>  
> Please advise.
> Thank you,
> Patrick Ring
>  
>  
>  
> Patrick M. Ring
> P. Ring Technologies
> Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
> 985-868-4200
>  


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[qmailtoaster] Has something changed in QT?

[Patrick Ring]

I am putting together a virtual (VMWare) with the QmailToaster ISO
(CentOS 4.X).
 
I'm having problems with the newmodel script (of QTP) erroring out when
it goes to mount the sandbox.
In the past this always worked for me.  (In the past I have not used the
QmailToaster ISO disk...I usually loaded CentOS and then built/loaded
QT)
 
Specifically the errors occur right after
Installing:  fuse
Installing:  kernel-devel
Installing:  dkms
Installing:  fuse-unionfs
Installing:  dkms-fuse
 
Installed:  dkms-fuse.noarch 0:2.7.4-1.nodist.rf fuse-unionfs.i386
0:0.23-1.qtp
Dependancy Installed:  dkms.noarch 0:2.0.22.0-1.el4.rf fuse.i386
0:2.7.4-1.qtp kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.9-89.0.18.EL
 
Then right after it says "Complete!"
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
FATAL: Module fuse not found.
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
mount:  mount point /mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm does not exist
cp:  '/mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/lib/rpm' : specified directory does not exist
Try 'cp --help' for more information.
qtp-mount-sandbox: sandbox was not mounted successfully
 
qtp-newmodel - qtp-mount-sandbox failed, exiting
 
Anyway, I've tried to perform newmodel both before and after a "yum
update", and I stumbled across a previous thread that recommended
turning off the "autofs" service.  No change either way.
 
Has something changed in the newmodel script?  Or is there something
different between the CentOS/QT from the ISO vs when I load manually?
 
Please advise.
Thank you,
Patrick Ring
 
 
 
Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200
 

RE: [qmailtoaster] Restoring to a Qmail Toaster

[Patrick Ring]

I think your best bet for moving to the new server would be the backup
script included with the qmailtoaster-plus packages. 


Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: IT-Medic [mailto:scott.collingw...@it-medic.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 4:52 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Restoring to a Qmail Toaster

 We have a qmail server that was installed a few years ago on centos
4.1. It appears the installation was done from source code.  We are
wanting to move the server to a new installation using the qmail
toaster. 
I have new installation version 5.0 from the iso. I have tested it with
a test domain and works well. I have reviewed the replication videos to
get a handle on exporting the vpopmail database and importing it.

One of the other administrators did a mysqldump and I have a
vpopmail.sql file approx 620kb in size.

I logged into the mail server and these are the commands I used:

root#mysqladmin drop vpopmail  -u root -p worked ok root#mysqladmin
create vpopmail -u root -p worked ok root#mysql -u root -p

mysql>use vpopmail;
mysql>show master status;
Empty set (0.00)
mysql> quit;
root#mysql -u root -p vpopmail < vpopmail.sql ran ok no errors but when
I checked database still empty.

Can you help me

Regards
Scott Collingwood
 

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: Named (Bind) Generating Network Unreachable Logs

[Patrick Ring]

Are you forwarders working?
 
Patrick M. Ring
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From: Francisco Paco Peralta [mailto:frperal...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:56 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: Named (Bind) Generating Network
Unreachable Logs


Yes, I have CentOS 5.4...Why?

 
Francisco "Paco" Peralta 




From: Eric Shubert 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 10:18:46 AM
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Named (Bind) Generating Network Unreachable
Logs

Francisco Paco Peralta wrote:
> 
> The following is a subset of the messages Named (Bind) has been
generating lately, is there a way address this?  Any help will be
greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance.
> 
> network unreachable resolving '0.ns.spamhaus.org/A/IN':
2001:630:1:106::6#53: 1 Time(s)
> network unreachable resolving '0.ns.spamhaus.org//IN':
2001:630:1:106::6#53: 1 Time(s)
> network unreachable resolving '1.ns.spamhaus.org/A/IN':
2001:630:1:106::6#53: 1 Time(s)
> network unreachable resolving '1.ns.spamhaus.org//IN':
2001:630:1:106::6#53: 1 Time(s)
> network unreac
>  hable resolving '116.0.42.78.zen.spamhaus.org/TXT/IN':
2001:7b8:3:1f:0:2:53:1#53: 1 Time(s)
> network unreachable resolving
>  '124.20.124.124.zen.spamhaus.org/TXT/IN': 2001:7b8:3:1f:0:2:53:1#53:
1 Time(s)
> 
> 
>  Francisco "Paco" Peralta
> 
> 

Have you upgraded to CentOS 5.4?

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RE: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface

[Patrick Ring]

Andreas,

That is most helpful.  I had just unpacked the tar.gz and put the
outlook.php in the themes folder.  I sort of expected it might
dynamically pick it up (read the folder).  I'll try this as soon as I
get the chance.

Thank you,
Patrick Ring

-Original Message-
From: Andreas Galatis [mailto:a...@unet.de] 
Sent: 2009-11-26 02:46
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface

Hi Patrick,

unpack the tar.gz
cp themes/outlook.php to your squirrelmail-folder
(/usr/share/squirrelmail/themes ?) edit config/config.php append the
themes- list with $theme[33]['PATH'] = SM_PATH . 'themes/outlook.php';
$theme[33]['NAME'] = 'Outlook'; adapt number [33] to your installation

Now the user has the choice to select Outlook from under Options > View

Andreas
Am Thursday 26 November 2009 06:24:08 schrieb Patrick Ring:
> That looks really great!
> I've downloaded it, but it looks like a total implementation of 
> Squirrelmail.  Is it possible to just install the skin?
> The INSTALL file doesn't really tell much (unless you are scratch 
> installing Squirrelmail).
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick Ring
>
> 
>
> From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:kquil...@corp.wifi7.com]
> Sent: 2009-11-25 18:23
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface
>
>
>
> Look at squirrel outlook I have it it is just a skin.
>
>
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: Sales 
> To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
> 
> Sent: Wed Nov 25 18:44:18 2009
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface
>
> What other webmail interfaces are people using?  I have had 
> squirrelmail running for several years on a toaster, but am building a

> new toaster and want a new interface.  I think the final straw was my 
> 65 year old mother telling me it looked dated and that she didn't like
using it.
> Roundcube looks promising, but am wondering just how far along it is, 
> Horde looks like a pain, and then there are a myriad of others.  I 
> wish SM would change the look, because it works well - something a 
> little more Outlookish would be great, but I don't think they ever
plan that.
> Just need some hints, and something that is easy to install and 
> maintain.
>
>
>
> Jack Martin
>
> MagicWISP




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RE: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface

[Patrick Ring]

That looks really great!
I've downloaded it, but it looks like a total implementation of
Squirrelmail.  Is it possible to just install the skin?
The INSTALL file doesn't really tell much (unless you are scratch
installing Squirrelmail).
 
Thanks,
Patrick Ring



From: Kyle Quillen [mailto:kquil...@corp.wifi7.com] 
Sent: 2009-11-25 18:23
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface



Look at squirrel outlook I have it it is just a skin.


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- Original Message -
From: Sales 
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com

Sent: Wed Nov 25 18:44:18 2009
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Webmail Interface

What other webmail interfaces are people using?  I have had squirrelmail
running for several years on a toaster, but am building a new toaster
and want a new interface.  I think the final straw was my 65 year old
mother telling me it looked dated and that she didn't like using it.
Roundcube looks promising, but am wondering just how far along it is,
Horde looks like a pain, and then there are a myriad of others.  I wish
SM would change the look, because it works well - something a little
more Outlookish would be great, but I don't think they ever plan that.
Just need some hints, and something that is easy to install and
maintain.



Jack Martin

MagicWISP

RE: [qmailtoaster] change IP address.

[Patrick Ring]

Darn! Showing my age here...  :-D
-P. Ring



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: 2009-10-27 06:44
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] change IP address.


Patrick Ring wrote: 

That's pretty much what I thought.  I know I read about the
firewall.sh script somewhere (possible a REM in the script itself).
Thanks!
-P. Ring


;) Been a long time since I've seen a REM. I think I was running a BBS
on PCBoard and Tag! when I saw that directive last.

RE: [qmailtoaster] change IP address.

[Patrick Ring]

That's pretty much what I thought.  I know I read about the firewall.sh
script somewhere (possible a REM in the script itself).
Thanks!
-P. Ring



From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com] 
Sent: 2009-10-26 19:44
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] change IP address.


Patrick Ring wrote: 

I'm looking for a reference to this and can't seem to find
anything relevant.
I'm going to be putting my QMT behind a hardware firewall
(private IP), so I'll be changing its IP address.  I seem to remember
reading somewhere (can't find it now) that I needed to edit and re-run
one of the install scripts (firewall.sh??) when I do this.  Does anyone
know where this reference is?  ...or do I need to just edit/run this
script after I change the server IP address?
 
Please advise.




You will of course need to edit the interface on your system to reflect
the new IP address, and if you're running the firewall you will want to
edit it for your new IP, and to remove the line that blocks private IPs
from accessing the machine since it will be on the LAN. I believe this
is turned off by default now - I may have forgotten to make that change
to the files available on the website, so double check. Once you edit
firewall.sh (if you're running it), run the script again to apply the
new rules.

[qmailtoaster] change IP address.

[Patrick Ring]

I'm looking for a reference to this and can't seem to find anything
relevant.
I'm going to be putting my QMT behind a hardware firewall (private IP),
so I'll be changing its IP address.  I seem to remember reading
somewhere (can't find it now) that I needed to edit and re-run one of
the install scripts (firewall.sh??) when I do this.  Does anyone know
where this reference is?  ...or do I need to just edit/run this script
after I change the server IP address?
 
Please advise.
 
Thanks,
Patrick M. Ring

RE: [qmailtoaster] QMT on VMWare ESXi

[Patrick Ring]

Check whether the BIOS is using a "speed-step" or CPU power saving feature.  If 
it is, disable it.  This is one cause of time drift in VMWare.

I have had problems, though, with CENTOS-based virtuals (in both VMWare Server 
(mostly) and in VMWare ESXi Server) where the time drifts (by as much as 45% 
per second!).

You can manually set the CPU clock speed that CentOS uses.  I forget which 
config file it is

Patrick M. Ring
P. Ring Technologies
Louisiana Web Host, LLC.
985-868-4200

-Original Message-
From: Michael Colvin [mailto:mcol...@norcalisp.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:38 AM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] QMT on VMWare ESXi

Is anyone running the QMT iso on a VMWare VM?  I had one set up just to play 
with, but noticed the clock keeps horrible time.  I was able to adjust the 
"ticks" to keep it more accurate, along with an hourly sync, but this seems 
ridiculous.  From what I've found, it's an issue with CentOS in a VM, but I've 
got CentOS running in a VM for a PBX, and it seems fine.

This is the only time I've ever had an issue with the system/hardware clock 
drifting dramatically in a VM.  There are also other VM's on this physical 
server that keep sync fine...

 
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