Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan McAllister wrotes: PS: I have to admit -- I'm getting frustrated with the whole qmail-toaster idea -- being a sys-admin for decades, I'm not used to deploying systems that are magic boxes -- I like to know HOW things work (and WHY they work)... but sendmail was a BITCH (always has been), and I was impressed with what other people had said about the toaster. I'm beginning to think I should learn POSTFIX. sigh at least then, when things broke, I'd have some better ideas about where to look and what to tweak! I don't undestand your statements . Qmailtoaster is a solution to give you a complete mailserver, so you can't compare it to postfix , wich is just an smtp server . You should compare the qmail component of qmailtoaster to postfix or maybe you could compare some other postfix mail based solutions with qmailtoaster , but you will have the same problems you have with the toaster: you must know how to fix single components . Anyway, if you want to know how the things in qmailtoaster works feel free to download,compile,and configure the following simple components: 1) qmail + patches 2) vpopmail 3) vqadmin 4) clamav 5) spamassassin 6) simscan 7) etc etc etc Then break it and try to fix . I've choose qmailtoaster cause i was tired to recompile all the stuff said above . Just my 2cents . - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan, Have you run the /var/qmail/bin/qmail-newu command? The qmail-lspawn program reads the /var/qmail/user/cdb file and passes the owner and directory information to the qmail-local program. The cdb file is generated by qmail-newu from the /var/qmail/user/assign file. Since other domains work on the server (is that correct?) then I assume that the commands id -u vpopmail and id -g vpopmail return a value of 89. Regards, Tim -Original Message- From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:41 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem The value of the assign file matches entries on other (working) servers... --- +userdomain.com-:userdomain.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/userdomain.com: -:: . --- An interesting attempt -- I've never had to examine this file before (didn't even know it existed!) Am curious what its used for Thanks, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Natalio Gatti wrote: The content of /var/qmail/user/assign reflects your current domains? I had a corrupted assign file, which lead me to a similar problem: qmail-smtpd accepted the messages (I guess here is where mysql plays its role), but qmail-send didn't identified them as local accounts. The assign file must be compiled once modified, is a cdb file. It is compiled with qmail-newu. If your assign file is correct, running this command won't affect your installation. Jake, can this command be included in service qmail cdb? I do not see why not. I'll make a note and remind Erik when the new version gets ready to roll. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Just to update you all... I ran out of time... I finally had to un-install and re-install to get the toaster to work again. I tried several half-baked methods, but the only one that worked was to COMPLETELY uninstall qmail-toaster: I spent all night manually writing scripts and backing up data (and the active queues) Everything is working OK now Thanks to all who offered their help Dan --- Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Great that your issue is solved! Just wish we could track this down to the problem tho.. Any clues as to what was done leading to this? JP - Original Message - From: Dan McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Just to update you all... I ran out of time... I finally had to un-install and re-install to get the toaster to work again. I tried several half-baked methods, but the only one that worked was to COMPLETELY uninstall qmail-toaster: I spent all night manually writing scripts and backing up data (and the active queues) Everything is working OK now Thanks to all who offered their help Dan --- Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. 2007/7/16, Dan McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK... this is the 3rd time this has happened to me, and the fix I've used in the past just isn't feasible this time... I've got a domain on a qmail-toaster (I've tried migrating to qtplus, but the sandbox creation always fails because of the symbolic links and additional mounted filesystems (backup and home are on separate drives)... but that's another story)... The issue is that after running fine for a while, a domain's mysql database gets reasonably well corrupted. At current, if I do a vdominfo on the domain, it shows what I suspect is an error associated with doing signed arithmetic on an unsigned value, or vice-versa. The number of users is being reported as 2147483647 (which is 7FFF in hex). If I run vuserinfo, all the expected users show just fine, however * something* in qmail-smtp is reporting that there are no users in the domain (all users are bouncing mail as no mailbox here by that name) -- so I suspect qmail-smtp is using the # of users value and finds it too large. I've had this problem before, but on much smaller domains. Previously, to resolve this problem, I have backed up the old mailboxes, deleted the entire domain (vdeldomain), deleted ALL of the mysql databases (rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*), re-started mysql (to generate new base databases in /var/lib/mysql), reset the mysql default password, added the vpopmail mysql database, re-added each of the users (plus aliases, forwards, etc.) manually into the vpopmail database, verified correctness, then finally restoring the old mailbox entries. *There has to be a better way! *(With this particular domain, that'll be an all-day project! Over 150 users!) Surely this mysql database entry that has counted the # of users can be fixed somehow WITHOUT starting from scratch! I'm no database guy, but I am a pretty astute Linux (UNIX) admin... so I'm hoping someone out there with the MYSQL knowhow can lead me in the right direction to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
OK, cur_users on dir_control, some times, gets maxed up. usualy after adding users if I recall correctly. Not necessarily with vqadmin, but with qmailadmin also (I think). I googled it arround and and didn't get much, so I assumed a vqadmin bug at first. But in some of my systems this happens when adding users to domains. Couldn't trace it to a single point. It's not a every time thing though so I figure some bug between mysql5 and vqadmin. In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. 2007/7/17, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: Jake... I DO have a bad habit of reading the documentation -- I use the vqadmin program solely for retrieving passwords when idiot users forget them -- usually the day after they have reset them for some odd reason. I have no doubt, and hope you do read the sparse docs we've put together. The number 217-whatever is just one that I can reproduce consistently with vqadmin. If you created the domains via the CLI (and I'm assuming the values are correct at that time) and they change later That's an interesting one. Is the mysql DB on a different machine as well? I'm starting to suspect something awry with either a DB being on a different machine, or the filesystems being on a different machine. I know there was an issue with MySQL5 when it came out, and I think the end-result patch just pings the DB every so often to keep the connection alive. Before that everyone was getting cannot connect to DB messages. Most clients have just the one server (most are dual-core Opterons, some dual-CPU/dual-core (4 total cores) Opterons -- most are spec'd to 2GB RAM per core). Those that have multiple servers have added an MS Windoze Server 2000 or 2003 SBS. Even in those instances, the MySQL remains on the Linux server. (My QMail Toasters are running on a Fedora Core 5 derivative -- loads of my own customizations that allow me to sell the server as a service, and remotely administer the system as if it is just 1 instance of the same server over and over again. (Keeps me sane). When a client asks for a new domain to be hosted on their system, they submit a request via email. At that time, we add the domain to their DNS, create a space for the web pages to be hosted, create an admin account group for the new domain (who are able to edit the web pages), and lastly create the email domain (vadddomain). If you're PHP savvy this could be scripted. I have a bash script I use to create new domains for my clients. It asks for the name, number of mailboxes, quota, etc. and then creates it for me. I'm an old-time UNIX guy -- I actually do all those steps in a custom-built BASH script. As such, I'm inclined to leave it as-is now. Make clients call in to add domains so I have more hands-on with them. I actually then add a couple of items: 1) I set the postmaster account to point to MY postmaster account -- I read the postmaster mail for all domains I administer, whether on my own server or a client's 2) I create an admin user mailbox (usually the owner of the company) and set the password to something we've agreed upon earlier 3) I create webmaster and abuse aliases for my own webmaster and abuse email mailboxes (on my own domain) -- same reason as for postmaster 4) I email the client a PDF document that tells them how to log into qmailadmin on their new webpage, how to use THEIR account (not postmaster) and a brief primer on how to create each type of account (mailbox, alias, responder, and list). They can always call for additional support -- but the issues that new users bring up are usually added to our PDF document so we don't have to answer it again! Good ideas. I leave it up to the clients for their bounce messages and what-not. 'Course I also set up and maintain their in-house networks, networks in other states to connect back to the home office, VoIP phone systems, I also do custom projects (http://thebuildercam.com/ as an example, which I built from the ground up in my garage), etc., so I don't feel guilty watching over their stuff as much. My biggest problem right now is AOL. They recently changed their servers, and I chase phantom-bounces all the time for 1 client who checks the mail server for me - 50 times a day. 2 weekends ago he only got 50 emails on a Sunday and was sending me text messages to my phone because he said the email server was broke. He normally averages 150-200 messages a day and figured that 100 or so had gotten lost somewhere. It was just a light day. He didn't know of any emails that actually bounced, but he figured there had to be some. sigh AOL is a pain -- but that's their history! Why run ON the Internet when you can build your own, internally housed, completely customized, uniq Internet all right here! That way you're not hampered by anything like /standards!/ (I think they thought they could out-Microsoft Microsoft -- you know: The E3 Strategy - Embrace, Extend, Exterminate! :-) I also offer a broad range of programs, mostly tailored to small to mid-sized businesses, and specializing in non-centric environments (lots of VPN clients, VoIP phone systems that allow users to roam across the world and still make and receive local calls from the Main Office and the like) all needing high availability and high data security. Which brings me back to my current issue... this client is STILL without email this evening, and I'm looking like an idiot because I've checked everything I know
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from Michigan originally, so I'm a true half-back. And let's see Houses are 1/2 the price of Florida... Property taxes are 1/8th, car insurance is 1/3, power bill will be 1/3 (don't need the AC as much.), etc. Orlando's murders are up 137% this year, violent crimes are up 41%, 40% of all drivers are uninsured, 15,000 people a day run red lights (they have cameras that provide this info, but they don't issue tickets by that method yet), it was voted the angriest city in America, the sickest (as far as flu cases and contact/hygiene related illnesses), the 3rd worst as far as traffic congestion in the US, and the list goes on and on. With our son due in October, I wanted to raise him somewhere a little more wholesome if that makes sense. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from Michigan originally, so I'm a true half-back. And let's see Houses are 1/2 the price of Florida... Property taxes are 1/8th, car insurance is 1/3, power bill will be 1/3 (don't need the AC as much.), etc. Orlando's murders are up 137% this year, violent crimes are up 41%, 40% of all drivers are uninsured, 15,000 people a day run red lights (they have cameras that provide this info, but they don't issue tickets by that method yet), it was voted the angriest city in America, the sickest (as far as flu cases and contact/hygiene related illnesses), the 3rd worst as far as traffic congestion in the US, and the list goes on and on. With our son due in October, I wanted to raise him somewhere a little more wholesome if that makes sense.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
The content of /var/qmail/user/assign reflects your current domains? I had a corrupted assign file, which lead me to a similar problem: qmail-smtpd accepted the messages (I guess here is where mysql plays its role), but qmail-send didn't identified them as local accounts. The assign file must be compiled once modified, is a cdb file. It is compiled with qmail-newu. If your assign file is correct, running this command won't affect your installation. Jake, can this command be included in service qmail cdb? Natalio. On 7/17/07, Dan McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from Michigan originally, so I'm a true half-back. And let's see Houses are 1/2 the price of Florida... Property taxes are 1/8th, car insurance is 1/3, power bill will be 1/3 (don't need the AC as much.), etc. Orlando's murders are up 137% this year, violent crimes are up 41%, 40% of all drivers are uninsured, 15,000 people a day run red lights (they have cameras that provide this info, but they don't issue tickets by that method yet), it was voted the angriest city in America, the sickest (as far as flu cases and contact/hygiene related illnesses), the 3rd worst as far as traffic congestion in the US, and the list goes on and on. With our son due in October, I wanted to raise him somewhere a little more wholesome if that makes sense. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan, The error message that you included from your previous post is generated by the following snip of code from the qmail-local.c file: qmesearch(fd,flagforwardonly); if (fd == -1) if (*dash) strerr_die1x(100,Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)); The qmesearch function appears to fail only if it cannot locate one of the .qmail files (either for the individual user or the domain's default). Regards, Tim _ From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:36 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from Michigan originally, so I'm a true half-back. And let's see Houses are 1/2 the price of Florida... Property taxes are 1/8th, car insurance is 1/3, power bill will be 1/3 (don't need the AC as much.), etc. Orlando's murders are up 137% this year, violent crimes are up 41%, 40% of all drivers are uninsured, 15,000 people a day run red lights (they have cameras that provide this info, but they don't issue tickets by that method yet), it was voted the angriest city in America, the sickest (as far as flu cases and contact/hygiene related illnesses), the 3rd worst as far as traffic congestion in the US, and the list goes on and on. With our son due in October, I wanted to raise him somewhere a little more wholesome if that makes sense.
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Dan McAllister wrote: I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from Michigan originally, so I'm a true half-back. And let's see Houses are 1/2 the price of Florida... Property taxes are 1/8th, car insurance is 1/3, power bill will be 1/3 (don't need the AC as much.), etc. Orlando's murders are up 137% this year, violent crimes are up 41%, 40% of all drivers are uninsured, 15,000 people a day run red lights (they have cameras that provide this info, but they don't issue tickets by that method yet), it was voted the angriest city in America, the sickest (as far as flu cases and contact/hygiene related illnesses), the 3rd worst as far as traffic congestion in the US, and the list goes on and on. With our son due in October, I wanted to raise him somewhere a little more wholesome if that makes sense.
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. is that not odd/wrong? where does the cur_users get pulled from then? or is it actually a deprecated field (well, maybe not officially!) and not used? _ From: A M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:05 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK, cur_users on dir_control, some times, gets maxed up. usualy after adding users if I recall correctly. Not necessarily with vqadmin, but with qmailadmin also (I think). I googled it arround and and didn't get much, so I assumed a vqadmin bug at first. But in some of my systems this happens when adding users to domains. Couldn't trace it to a single point. It's not a every time thing though so I figure some bug between mysql5 and vqadmin. In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. 2007/7/17, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
To my knowledge, it is no longer relied upon (but is apparently checked somewhere, or else the 2^32-1 value in it would be ignored) Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Helmut Fritz wrote: In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. is that not odd/wrong? where does the cur_users get pulled from then? or is it actually a deprecated field (well, maybe not officially!) and not used? *From:* A M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:05 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK, cur_users on dir_control, some times, gets maxed up. usualy after adding users if I recall correctly. Not necessarily with vqadmin, but with qmailadmin also (I think). I googled it arround and and didn't get much, so I assumed a vqadmin bug at first. But in some of my systems this happens when adding users to domains. Couldn't trace it to a single point. It's not a every time thing though so I figure some bug between mysql5 and vqadmin. In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. 2007/7/17, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
I got mixed results: about 10% of domains have cur_users maxed out to 2147483647 about 15% have values rangin 1-16 all others have values of 0 what to think of it and to reset it to 0 for all domains? Actually nothing weird does not seem to be happening .. What for is this dir_control used...i haven't still got it (sorry)? can it just be cleaned up (emptyed) and it will recover itself? i have noticed, that then you first create a domain, it doesn't have entry, but if you use vdominfo for getting domain info, it also adds value to dir_control table. Helmut Fritz wrote: In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. is that not odd/wrong? where does the cur_users get pulled from then? or is it actually a deprecated field (well, maybe not officially!) and not used? *From:* A M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:05 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK, cur_users on dir_control, some times, gets maxed up. usualy after adding users if I recall correctly. Not necessarily with vqadmin, but with qmailadmin also (I think). I googled it arround and and didn't get much, so I assumed a vqadmin bug at first. But in some of my systems this happens when adding users to domains. Couldn't trace it to a single point. It's not a every time thing though so I figure some bug between mysql5 and vqadmin. In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. 2007/7/17, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
what's your assign file says about user whois domain it is. It might be that (for some odd reason) the domain user is somebody else than vpopmail (#89) and you still got permission problem. plaintext version of assign file will reveal it. Dan McAllister wrote: Thanks Tim... that's a start... The domain's .qmail-default file is fine (matches what I would expect). Thinking it may be a permissions issue, I have copied all relevant permissions below: /home755 owner=root group=root -/vpopmail 700 owner=vpopmail group=vchkpw -/domains700 owner=vpopmail group=vchkpw -/userdomain.com 700 owner=vpopmail group=vchkpw -/.qmail-default 600 owner=vpopmail group=vchkpw (file contents: | /home/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox) -/username(s) 700 owner=vpopmail group=vchkpw (no users in this domain are forwarding messages, so there are no user .qmail files) These match up with my other servers (that are working fine) how would I check to see if this process (I am assuming it is not qmails) is running as the right user? Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Tim Mancour wrote: Dan, The error message that you included from your previous post is generated by the following snip of code from the qmail-local.c file: qmesearch(fd,flagforwardonly); if (fd == -1) if (*dash) strerr_die1x(100,Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)); The qmesearch function appears to fail only if it cannot locate one of the .qmail files (either for the individual user or the domain's default). Regards, Tim *From:* Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:36 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
On 7/17/07, Janno Sannik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got mixed results: about 10% of domains have cur_users maxed out to 2147483647 about 15% have values rangin 1-16 all others have values of 0 what to think of it and to reset it to 0 for all domains? Actually nothing weird does not seem to be happening .. In a particular server I have 2 domains: domain1: 5 real accounts reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdominfo domain1.com domain: domain1.com uid:89 gid:89 dir:/home/vpopmail/domains/domain1.com users: 0 domain2: 12 real accounts reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /home/vpopmail/bin/vdominfo domain2.com domain: domain2.com uid:89 gid:89 dir:/home/vpopmail/domains/domain2.com users: 2147483647 Both of them work OK. So Dan, I don´t know if your problem is related to MySQL or database corruption. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Hey Dan, A few questions.. Are all accounts in the domain giving a bounce? When you look in the table beloning to the domain , does it look ok? Have you tried a telnet smtp session ? The mysql 2147483647 (max mysql signed int value) is not the problem if you ask me, I have severall domains with this value and never had any problems with those. JP - Original Message - From: Dan McAllister To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Dan McAllister wrote: I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some details, so if you put them in the email, I apologize. Was the mysql DB on a different machine? It would seem that it's having issues looking up the names in the DB at first glance. Can you turn on recordio and see what exactly is going on? I'll be away from a PC for most of the day, but I'll try and check in later. You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. I realized that a few months back... so you're evacuating to NC like all the rest, eh? My parents left for NC about 10 years ago (outside of Cashiers, NC these days). So many ex-Floridians in NC, they're going to have to build a new Disney up there! :-) Aye. And they don't like Floridians up here, so I neglect to tell them I just moved from there (I'm in Burlington). I'm from
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
I usualy reset it to 0 and everything works fine... 2007/7/17, Janno Sannik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I got mixed results: about 10% of domains have cur_users maxed out to 2147483647 about 15% have values rangin 1-16 all others have values of 0 what to think of it and to reset it to 0 for all domains? Actually nothing weird does not seem to be happening .. What for is this dir_control used...i haven't still got it (sorry)? can it just be cleaned up (emptyed) and it will recover itself? i have noticed, that then you first create a domain, it doesn't have entry, but if you use vdominfo for getting domain info, it also adds value to dir_control table. Helmut Fritz wrote: In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. is that not odd/wrong? where does the cur_users get pulled from then? or is it actually a deprecated field (well, maybe not officially!) and not used? *From:* A M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:05 AM *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK, cur_users on dir_control, some times, gets maxed up. usualy after adding users if I recall correctly. Not necessarily with vqadmin, but with qmailadmin also (I think). I googled it arround and and didn't get much, so I assumed a vqadmin bug at first. But in some of my systems this happens when adding users to domains. Couldn't trace it to a single point. It's not a every time thing though so I figure some bug between mysql5 and vqadmin. In any case cur_users is always 0 in the DB, regardless of the number of users. 2007/7/17, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: A M wrote: you should install phpMyAdmin. This will allow you to use the interface to edit the values in dir_control table. FWIW I think QMT had this issue since, at least, ver 1.3... prior to that I don't know. The field is allaways 0 but at some point , after qmailadmin I think, it gets maxed out. Can you elaborate on that some? If it's a consistent problem, I was not aware of it. Thanks. -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- AM agmsoft(at)gmail.com
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Natalio Gatti wrote: The content of /var/qmail/user/assign reflects your current domains? I had a corrupted assign file, which lead me to a similar problem: qmail-smtpd accepted the messages (I guess here is where mysql plays its role), but qmail-send didn't identified them as local accounts. The assign file must be compiled once modified, is a cdb file. It is compiled with qmail-newu. If your assign file is correct, running this command won't affect your installation. Jake, can this command be included in service qmail cdb? I do not see why not. I'll make a note and remind Erik when the new version gets ready to roll. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan McAllister wrote: Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( You're onto something there That should have worked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# su vpopmail bash-3.00$ /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: jake passwd: $1$N4y/3gvf$UqT0OapwHml5arTMkXkHg0 clear passwd: none-of-your-business comment/gecos: Jake Vickers uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: Jake Vickers limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/v2gnu.com/jake quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 17:09:17 2007 last auth ip: 70.145.239.156 But it does have to read all of that info from mysql. Have you changed the password for vpopmail from the default or anything? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
If i read his mail correctly the vuserinfo command gave the correct info.. So it did work (or did I overlook something in that email) JP - Original Message - From: Jake Vickers To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Dan McAllister wrote: Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( You're onto something there That should have worked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# su vpopmail bash-3.00$ /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: jake passwd: $1$N4y/3gvf$UqT0OapwHml5arTMkXkHg0 clear passwd: none-of-your-business comment/gecos: Jake Vickers uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: Jake Vickers limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/v2gnu.com/jake quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 17:09:17 2007 last auth ip: 70.145.239.156 But it does have to read all of that info from mysql. Have you changed the password for vpopmail from the default or anything?
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Yes, all users are bouncing... I have opened the MySQL tables in navicat and they look identical to other domains (on other servers) that DO work. I have tried a telnet session -- same result (error message is sent) I have also tried a telnet session to SUBMIT email -- and that works fine! I agree that the large value for number of users is of no consequence, although I reset it to zero already Thanks for the ideas... Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: Hey Dan, A few questions.. Are all accounts in the domain giving a bounce? When you look in the table beloning to the domain , does it look ok? Have you tried a telnet smtp session ? The mysql 2147483647 (max mysql signed int value) is not the problem if you ask me, I have severall domains with this value and never had any problems with those. JP - Original Message - *From:* Dan McAllister mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com mailto:qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:57 PM *Subject:* Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Dan McAllister wrote: I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten it thru qmail-smtp and on to qmail-send. The exact error message in QMLOG send is: 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201173500 new msg 2261131 2007-07-17 10:06:40.201177500 info msg 2261131: bytes 1551 from [EMAIL PROTECTED] qp 21254 uid 89 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211859500 starting delivery 9: msg 2261131 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-17 10:06:40.211864500 status: local 1/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215288500 delivery 9: failure: Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/ 2007-07-17 10:06:40.215294500 status: local 0/10 remote 0/60 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229608500 bounce msg 2261131 qp 21257 2007-07-17 10:06:40.229613500 end msg 2261131 I still missed some
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
The value of the assign file matches entries on other (working) servers... --- +userdomain.com-:userdomain.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/userdomain.com:-:: . --- An interesting attempt -- I've never had to examine this file before (didn't even know it existed!) Am curious what its used for Thanks, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Natalio Gatti wrote: The content of /var/qmail/user/assign reflects your current domains? I had a corrupted assign file, which lead me to a similar problem: qmail-smtpd accepted the messages (I guess here is where mysql plays its role), but qmail-send didn't identified them as local accounts. The assign file must be compiled once modified, is a cdb file. It is compiled with qmail-newu. If your assign file is correct, running this command won't affect your installation. Jake, can this command be included in service qmail cdb? I do not see why not. I'll make a note and remind Erik when the new version gets ready to roll. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
If i'm correct then this file is used for deliveries. 89:89 can be changed to somethin else so the domain files are owned by somebody else (and use filesystem quota on separate domains). i have a hunch on other variables (they are quite obvious :) ), but i'm not guessing and reading the docs would be right thing to do. Dan McAllister wrote: The value of the assign file matches entries on other (working) servers... --- +userdomain.com-:userdomain.com:89:89:/home/vpopmail/domains/userdomain.com:-:: . --- An interesting attempt -- I've never had to examine this file before (didn't even know it existed!) Am curious what its used for Thanks, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Natalio Gatti wrote: The content of /var/qmail/user/assign reflects your current domains? I had a corrupted assign file, which lead me to a similar problem: qmail-smtpd accepted the messages (I guess here is where mysql plays its role), but qmail-send didn't identified them as local accounts. The assign file must be compiled once modified, is a cdb file. It is compiled with qmail-newu. If your assign file is correct, running this command won't affect your installation. Jake, can this command be included in service qmail cdb? I do not see why not. I'll make a note and remind Erik when the new version gets ready to roll. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
This really is getting an intresting problem.. Eh sorry for you it is just a very anoying one.. Ok next thing I would try, is a strace . strace /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd You get a lot of messages, the system calls actually. just type the same as you did in the telnet smtp session. [just to be sure an example] mail from:youremail rcpt to:afaultyemailaddress Somewhere in all those lines there should be a clue about what goes wrong. Just copy paste it in an email (remove the personal stuph) JP - Original Message - From: Dan McAllister To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Yes, all users are bouncing... I have opened the MySQL tables in navicat and they look identical to other domains (on other servers) that DO work. I have tried a telnet session -- same result (error message is sent) I have also tried a telnet session to SUBMIT email -- and that works fine! I agree that the large value for number of users is of no consequence, although I reset it to zero already Thanks for the ideas... Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote: Hey Dan, A few questions.. Are all accounts in the domain giving a bounce? When you look in the table beloning to the domain , does it look ok? Have you tried a telnet smtp session ? The mysql 2147483647 (max mysql signed int value) is not the problem if you ask me, I have severall domains with this value and never had any problems with those. JP - Original Message - From: Dan McAllister To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Dan McAllister wrote: I'll put my responses up here this time: 1) Yes, the MySQL server is local (same machine as qmail-toaster) 2) If qmail-send is having trouble looking up names, it must be a MYSQL problem... as root, I can perform the following: # vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User Name uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User Name limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 10:23:51 2007 last auth ip: imap (I have removed personal data from the above snippet) Florida definitely has its share of growing pains these days... hard to fathom the folks over in Orlando letting things get so outta hand that the home of Disney World is considered to be too dangerous to raise a family! (You shoulda come to St. Pete/Clearwater! Then again, no -- I don't need the competition! :-)) Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Turns out the error is now coming from qmail-send (earlier it was qmail-smtp, but the MySQL fix seems to have gotten
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
ummm... I think I inadvertently confused you... I ran vuserinfo as root and got: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/clientdomain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 12:01:12 2007 last auth ip: imap [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# Then I logged in as the user vpopmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# su vpopmail [vpopmail@ root]$ /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: user passwd: $1$OUEk3eHa$14lfEMjiA.tX6nuT1m5.m1 clear passwd: password comment/gecos: My User uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: My User limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/clientdomain.com/user quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 12:01:12 2007 last auth ip: imap [vpopmail@ root]$ exit When I said it was the same, I meant that it was the same info as when I ran it as root. Sorry for any confusion... Now if you were referring to the password for vpopmail in Linux, there is none (not one on any other client either) (the /etc/shadow entry equivalent is: vpopmail:!!:13542:: which is a non-password. I *DO* change the default root password in MySQL away from the PpAaSsWwOoRrDd or some such default. Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: Update: I enabled the vpopmail user as a shell account (changed the entry in /etc/passwd, then used su) I tried the vuserinfo command: $vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and received an identical response. I believe that this effectively shuts down the MySQL error assertion. Unless qmail-send isn't running as the correct user... but I just checked -- qmail-send is running as user qmails as intended (or at least the same as on my other servers). The saga continues, and my clients are getting louder! :( You're onto something there That should have worked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# su vpopmail bash-3.00$ /home/vpopmail/bin/vuserinfo [EMAIL PROTECTED] name: jake passwd: $1$N4y/3gvf$UqT0OapwHml5arTMkXkHg0 clear passwd: none-of-your-business comment/gecos: Jake Vickers uid:0 gid:0 flags: 0 gecos: Jake Vickers limits: No user limits set. dir: /home/vpopmail/domains/v2gnu.com/jake quota: NOQUOTA usage: NOQUOTA last auth: Tue Jul 17 17:09:17 2007 last auth ip: 70.145.239.156 But it does have to read all of that info from mysql. Have you changed the password for vpopmail from the default or anything?
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan McAllister wrote: ummm... I think I inadvertently confused you... When I said it was the same, I meant that it was the same info as when I ran it as root. Sorry for any confusion... Yeah, that one got me. Sorry about that. Now if you were referring to the password for vpopmail in Linux, there is none (not one on any other client either) (the /etc/shadow entry equivalent is: vpopmail:!!:13542:: which is a non-password. I *DO* change the default root password in MySQL away from the PpAaSsWwOoRrDd or some such default. I was talking about /home/vpopmail/etc/vpopmail.mysql actually. The password in there is what it will be trying to use to access the DB, but that's not the issue. It's obviously doing that. Now you've narrowed it down to qmail-send, correct? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Im pretty sure the default password is SsEeCcRrEeTt. E On 7/17/07, Jake Vickers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan McAllister wrote: ummm... I think I inadvertently confused you... When I said it was the same, I meant that it was the same info as when I ran it as root. Sorry for any confusion... Yeah, that one got me. Sorry about that. Now if you were referring to the password for vpopmail in Linux, there is none (not one on any other client either) (the /etc/shadow entry equivalent is: vpopmail:!!:13542:: which is a non-password. I *DO* change the default root password in MySQL away from the PpAaSsWwOoRrDd or some such default. I was talking about /home/vpopmail/etc/vpopmail.mysql actually. The password in there is what it will be trying to use to access the DB, but that's not the issue. It's obviously doing that. Now you've narrowed it down to qmail-send, correct? - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
OK... this is the 3rd time this has happened to me, and the fix I've used in the past just isn't feasible this time... I've got a domain on a qmail-toaster (I've tried migrating to qtplus, but the sandbox creation always fails because of the symbolic links and additional mounted filesystems (backup and home are on separate drives)... but that's another story)... The issue is that after running fine for a while, a domain's mysql database gets reasonably well corrupted. At current, if I do a vdominfo on the domain, it shows what I suspect is an error associated with doing signed arithmetic on an unsigned value, or vice-versa. The number of users is being reported as 2147483647 (which is 7FFF in hex). If I run vuserinfo, all the expected users show just fine, however /something/ in qmail-smtp is reporting that there are no users in the domain (all users are bouncing mail as no mailbox here by that name) -- so I suspect qmail-smtp is using the # of users value and finds it too large. I've had this problem before, but on much smaller domains. Previously, to resolve this problem, I have backed up the old mailboxes, deleted the entire domain (vdeldomain), deleted ALL of the mysql databases (rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*), re-started mysql (to generate new base databases in /var/lib/mysql), reset the mysql default password, added the vpopmail mysql database, re-added each of the users (plus aliases, forwards, etc.) manually into the vpopmail database, verified correctness, then finally restoring the old mailbox entries. *There has to be a better way! *(With this particular domain, that'll be an all-day project! Over 150 users!) Surely this mysql database entry that has counted the # of users can be fixed somehow WITHOUT starting from scratch! I'm no database guy, but I am a pretty astute Linux (UNIX) admin... so I'm hoping someone out there with the MYSQL knowhow can lead me in the right direction to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data!
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
Do a google search for a product called navicat. It's an admin tool MySQL. Once you connect to your MySQL, you'll see the tables. When you right click on a table or group of tables, you have the option to check tables. It will report the state back as ok, crashed, corrupted, etc. On the bad tables, you can right click repair tables. It will then fix any errors it found. I have found Navicat to be a pretty invaluable tool for MySQL. You can get a full feature 30 day demo I think. Phil -Original message- From: Dan McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:29:13 -0400 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK... this is the 3rd time this has happened to me, and the fix I've used in the past just isn't feasible this time... I've got a domain on a qmail-toaster (I've tried migrating to qtplus, but the sandbox creation always fails because of the symbolic links and additional mounted filesystems (backup and home are on separate drives)... but that's another story)... The issue is that after running fine for a while, a domain's mysql database gets reasonably well corrupted. At current, if I do a vdominfo on the domain, it shows what I suspect is an error associated with doing signed arithmetic on an unsigned value, or vice-versa. The number of users is being reported as 2147483647 (which is 7FFF in hex). If I run vuserinfo, all the expected users show just fine, however /something/ in qmail-smtp is reporting that there are no users in the domain (all users are bouncing mail as no mailbox here by that name) -- so I suspect qmail-smtp is using the # of users value and finds it too large. I've had this problem before, but on much smaller domains. Previously, to resolve this problem, I have backed up the old mailboxes, deleted the entire domain (vdeldomain), deleted ALL of the mysql databases (rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*), re-started mysql (to generate new base databases in /var/lib/mysql), reset the mysql default password, added the vpopmail mysql database, re-added each of the users (plus aliases, forwards, etc.) manually into the vpopmail database, verified correctness, then finally restoring the old mailbox entries. *There has to be a better way! *(With this particular domain, that'll be an all-day project! Over 150 users!) Surely this mysql database entry that has counted the # of users can be fixed somehow WITHOUT starting from scratch! I'm no database guy, but I am a pretty astute Linux (UNIX) admin... so I'm hoping someone out there with the MYSQL knowhow can lead me in the right direction to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine
maybe you can use mysql to change the value? i see a table called dir_control in database vpopmail that ha a column called cur_users. what is interesting though is that 3 of my domains show 0 users when in fact they have users... can anyone advise on that? _ From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:26 AM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK... this is the 3rd time this has happened to me, and the fix I've used in the past just isn't feasible this time... I've got a domain on a qmail-toaster (I've tried migrating to qtplus, but the sandbox creation always fails because of the symbolic links and additional mounted filesystems (backup and home are on separate drives)... but that's another story)... The issue is that after running fine for a while, a domain's mysql database gets reasonably well corrupted. At current, if I do a vdominfo on the domain, it shows what I suspect is an error associated with doing signed arithmetic on an unsigned value, or vice-versa. The number of users is being reported as 2147483647 (which is 7FFF in hex). If I run vuserinfo, all the expected users show just fine, however something in qmail-smtp is reporting that there are no users in the domain (all users are bouncing mail as no mailbox here by that name) -- so I suspect qmail-smtp is using the # of users value and finds it too large. I've had this problem before, but on much smaller domains. Previously, to resolve this problem, I have backed up the old mailboxes, deleted the entire domain (vdeldomain), deleted ALL of the mysql databases (rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*), re-started mysql (to generate new base databases in /var/lib/mysql), reset the mysql default password, added the vpopmail mysql database, re-added each of the users (plus aliases, forwards, etc.) manually into the vpopmail database, verified correctness, then finally restoring the old mailbox entries. There has to be a better way! (With this particular domain, that'll be an all-day project! Over 150 users!) Surely this mysql database entry that has counted the # of users can be fixed somehow WITHOUT starting from scratch! I'm no database guy, but I am a pretty astute Linux (UNIX) admin... so I'm hoping someone out there with the MYSQL knowhow can lead me in the right direction to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data!
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Thanks for the pointer to the tool, Phil... Unfortunately, it appears that the # of users bug is a symptom, not the real problem. Using navicat, I have repaired the # of users entry in the dir_control field. However, my users on this system all remain unable to receive email. (same error) I have also verified (to the best of my limited ability) that the remaining mysql table entries (for dir_control, and the domain) are sane by comparing their entries with another server's tables... The users are able to SEND messages just fine -- it's just their inbound mail that's bouncing. So I believe chkuser is working fine... what I next need to know is what other facility within qmail-smtp could result in this bounce message, and how can I test it to see where its failing? Thanks again in advance for any help! Dan PS: I have to admit -- I'm getting frustrated with the whole qmail-toaster idea -- being a sys-admin for decades, I'm not used to deploying systems that are magic boxes -- I like to know HOW things work (and WHY they work)... but sendmail was a BITCH (always has been), and I was impressed with what other people had said about the toaster. I'm beginning to think I should learn POSTFIX. sigh at least then, when things broke, I'd have some better ideas about where to look and what to tweak! hopefully, someone will show me a DUH item that will restore my faith in the qmail-toaster idea Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Phil Leinhauser wrote: Do a google search for a product called navicat. It's an admin tool MySQL. Once you connect to your MySQL, you'll see the tables. When you right click on a table or group of tables, you have the option to check tables. It will report the state back as ok, crashed, corrupted, etc. On the bad tables, you can right click repair tables. It will then fix any errors it found. I have found Navicat to be a pretty invaluable tool for MySQL. You can get a full feature 30 day demo I think. Phil -Original message- From: Dan McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:29:13 -0400 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine OK... this is the 3rd time this has happened to me, and the fix I've used in the past just isn't feasible this time... I've got a domain on a qmail-toaster (I've tried migrating to qtplus, but the sandbox creation always fails because of the symbolic links and additional mounted filesystems (backup and home are on separate drives)... but that's another story)... The issue is that after running fine for a while, a domain's mysql database gets reasonably well corrupted. At current, if I do a vdominfo on the domain, it shows what I suspect is an error associated with doing signed arithmetic on an unsigned value, or vice-versa. The number of users is being reported as 2147483647 (which is 7FFF in hex). If I run vuserinfo, all the expected users show just fine, however /something/ in qmail-smtp is reporting that there are no users in the domain (all users are bouncing mail as no mailbox here by that name) -- so I suspect qmail-smtp is using the # of users value and finds it too large. I've had this problem before, but on much smaller domains. Previously, to resolve this problem, I have backed up the old mailboxes, deleted the entire domain (vdeldomain), deleted ALL of the mysql databases (rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*), re-started mysql (to generate new base databases in /var/lib/mysql), reset the mysql default password, added the vpopmail mysql database, re-added each of the users (plus aliases, forwards, etc.) manually into the vpopmail database, verified correctness, then finally restoring the old mailbox entries. *There has to be a better way! *(With this particular domain, that'll be an all-day project! Over 150 users!) Surely this mysql database entry that has counted the # of users can be fixed somehow WITHOUT starting from scratch! I'm no database guy, but I am a pretty astute Linux (UNIX) admin... so I'm hoping someone out there with the MYSQL knowhow can lead me in the right direction to fix this ASAP! Thanks in advance, Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Jake... I DO have a bad habit of reading the documentation -- I use the vqadmin program solely for retrieving passwords when idiot users forget them -- usually the day after they have reset them for some odd reason. In my environment, clients purchase a server and maintenance from me. They are then able to host their own services (web, file, email, etc) on their own server in a kind of black box configuration -- I do all the maintenance, security audits, etc. for them for a monthly fee. Mail accounts (or more correctly, mailboxes) USED to be tied to User accounts -- until I switched to the toaster. A HUGE benefit, if you ask me! However, users cannot host additional domains without calling support (we haven't automated that task yet.) They can edit webpages, and completely manage their email domain (thanks to qmailadmin), but I don't even give them access to toaster-admin, much less vqadmin. When a client asks for a new domain to be hosted on their system, they submit a request via email. At that time, we add the domain to their DNS, create a space for the web pages to be hosted, create an admin account group for the new domain (who are able to edit the web pages), and lastly create the email domain (vadddomain). I actually then add a couple of items: 1) I set the postmaster account to point to MY postmaster account -- I read the postmaster mail for all domains I administer, whether on my own server or a client's 2) I create an admin user mailbox (usually the owner of the company) and set the password to something we've agreed upon earlier 3) I create webmaster and abuse aliases for my own webmaster and abuse email mailboxes (on my own domain) -- same reason as for postmaster 4) I email the client a PDF document that tells them how to log into qmailadmin on their new webpage, how to use THEIR account (not postmaster) and a brief primer on how to create each type of account (mailbox, alias, responder, and list). They can always call for additional support -- but the issues that new users bring up are usually added to our PDF document so we don't have to answer it again! Which brings me back to my current issue... this client is STILL without email this evening, and I'm looking like an idiot because I've checked everything I know how to check... Are there NO CLI diagnostics that can try to find out why (or just as importantly) WHERE qmail-smtp is failing to find the account??? regards... Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Helmut Fritz wrote: Jake - wow. I did not know that. I used vqadmin to create my domains and it worked just fine. But that is all I did, create the virtual domains and set the limits for mailboxes, aliases, etc... Then I used qmailadmin to finish things up and create users mailboxes, mail lists, etc. I thought I saw reference to doing it this way either in a mail list thread or in the readme/wiki. Yeah, you can get some strange things by using it. Like the other thread on here that has a corrupted database, with 2147483647 users in the table. Thats one I've reproduced with VqAdmin myself. Best method (which should be on the wiki now, if not email me the incorrect link) is to create the domain via the CLI, and set your limits and such then. Then use qmailadmin to do everything else. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan McAllister wrote: Jake... I DO have a bad habit of reading the documentation -- I use the vqadmin program solely for retrieving passwords when idiot users forget them -- usually the day after they have reset them for some odd reason. I have no doubt, and hope you do read the sparse docs we've put together. The number 217-whatever is just one that I can reproduce consistently with vqadmin. If you created the domains via the CLI (and I'm assuming the values are correct at that time) and they change later That's an interesting one. Is the mysql DB on a different machine as well? I'm starting to suspect something awry with either a DB being on a different machine, or the filesystems being on a different machine. I know there was an issue with MySQL5 when it came out, and I think the end-result patch just pings the DB every so often to keep the connection alive. Before that everyone was getting cannot connect to DB messages. In my environment, clients purchase a server and maintenance from me. They are then able to host their own services (web, file, email, etc) on their own server in a kind of black box configuration -- I do all the maintenance, security audits, etc. for them for a monthly fee. Very similar to what I offer my clients. When a client asks for a new domain to be hosted on their system, they submit a request via email. At that time, we add the domain to their DNS, create a space for the web pages to be hosted, create an admin account group for the new domain (who are able to edit the web pages), and lastly create the email domain (vadddomain). If you're PHP savvy this could be scripted. I have a bash script I use to create new domains for my clients. It asks for the name, number of mailboxes, quota, etc. and then creates it for me. I actually then add a couple of items: 1) I set the postmaster account to point to MY postmaster account -- I read the postmaster mail for all domains I administer, whether on my own server or a client's 2) I create an admin user mailbox (usually the owner of the company) and set the password to something we've agreed upon earlier 3) I create webmaster and abuse aliases for my own webmaster and abuse email mailboxes (on my own domain) -- same reason as for postmaster 4) I email the client a PDF document that tells them how to log into qmailadmin on their new webpage, how to use THEIR account (not postmaster) and a brief primer on how to create each type of account (mailbox, alias, responder, and list). They can always call for additional support -- but the issues that new users bring up are usually added to our PDF document so we don't have to answer it again! Good ideas. I leave it up to the clients for their bounce messages and what-not. 'Course I also set up and maintain their in-house networks, networks in other states to connect back to the home office, VoIP phone systems, I also do custom projects (http://thebuildercam.com/ as an example, which I built from the ground up in my garage), etc., so I don't feel guilty watching over their stuff as much. My biggest problem right now is AOL. They recently changed their servers, and I chase phantom-bounces all the time for 1 client who checks the mail server for me - 50 times a day. 2 weekends ago he only got 50 emails on a Sunday and was sending me text messages to my phone because he said the email server was broke. He normally averages 150-200 messages a day and figured that 100 or so had gotten lost somewhere. It was just a light day. He didn't know of any emails that actually bounced, but he figured there had to be some. sigh Which brings me back to my current issue... this client is STILL without email this evening, and I'm looking like an idiot because I've checked everything I know how to check... Are there NO CLI diagnostics that can try to find out why (or just as importantly) WHERE qmail-smtp is failing to find the account??? You can use recordio to see what qmail-smtp is doing, and maybe see where the break is. I've been traveling the last few days so I haven't kept up on the threads much. What OS and version? Behind a NAT firewall or public? Are just the /home and /backup dirs on NFS? Thanks. Clearwater, FL 33764 You're not that far from me. My office is in Orlando, but I'm moving to North Carolina this month. I'll still be in Orlando a couple days a month though, since that's where the bulk of my clients are right now. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan, Perhaps the database isn't the problem. Have you checked the ownership, group and permisssions of the files in the domain's directory (/home/vpopmail/domain/problemchild.com). The domain's .qmail-default file could also being missing or corrupted and so can the individual user's .qmail file. Regards, Tim -Original Message- From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:05 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Jake... I DO have a bad habit of reading the documentation -- I use the vqadmin program solely for retrieving passwords when idiot users forget them -- usually the day after they have reset them for some odd reason. In my environment, clients purchase a server and maintenance from me. They are then able to host their own services (web, file, email, etc) on their own server in a kind of black box configuration -- I do all the maintenance, security audits, etc. for them for a monthly fee. Mail accounts (or more correctly, mailboxes) USED to be tied to User accounts -- until I switched to the toaster. A HUGE benefit, if you ask me! However, users cannot host additional domains without calling support (we haven't automated that task yet.) They can edit webpages, and completely manage their email domain (thanks to qmailadmin), but I don't even give them access to toaster-admin, much less vqadmin. When a client asks for a new domain to be hosted on their system, they submit a request via email. At that time, we add the domain to their DNS, create a space for the web pages to be hosted, create an admin account group for the new domain (who are able to edit the web pages), and lastly create the email domain (vadddomain). I actually then add a couple of items: 1) I set the postmaster account to point to MY postmaster account -- I read the postmaster mail for all domains I administer, whether on my own server or a client's 2) I create an admin user mailbox (usually the owner of the company) and set the password to something we've agreed upon earlier 3) I create webmaster and abuse aliases for my own webmaster and abuse email mailboxes (on my own domain) -- same reason as for postmaster 4) I email the client a PDF document that tells them how to log into qmailadmin on their new webpage, how to use THEIR account (not postmaster) and a brief primer on how to create each type of account (mailbox, alias, responder, and list). They can always call for additional support -- but the issues that new users bring up are usually added to our PDF document so we don't have to answer it again! Which brings me back to my current issue... this client is STILL without email this evening, and I'm looking like an idiot because I've checked everything I know how to check... Are there NO CLI diagnostics that can try to find out why (or just as importantly) WHERE qmail-smtp is failing to find the account??? regards... Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Helmut Fritz wrote: Jake - wow. I did not know that. I used vqadmin to create my domains and it worked just fine. But that is all I did, create the virtual domains and set the limits for mailboxes, aliases, etc... Then I used qmailadmin to finish things up and create users mailboxes, mail lists, etc. I thought I saw reference to doing it this way either in a mail list thread or in the readme/wiki. Yeah, you can get some strange things by using it. Like the other thread on here that has a corrupted database, with 2147483647 users in the table. Thats one I've reproduced with VqAdmin myself. Best method (which should be on the wiki now, if not email me the incorrect link) is to create the domain via the CLI, and set your limits and such then. Then use qmailadmin to do everything else. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem
Dan, Also, please check your ./qmail/control/rcpthosts file. Regards, Tim -Original Message- From: Tim Mancour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:56 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Dan, Perhaps the database isn't the problem. Have you checked the ownership, group and permisssions of the files in the domain's directory (/home/vpopmail/domain/problemchild.com). The domain's .qmail-default file could also being missing or corrupted and so can the individual user's .qmail file. Regards, Tim -Original Message- From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 6:05 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Domain bouncing mail, vuser says user is fine -- still a problem Jake... I DO have a bad habit of reading the documentation -- I use the vqadmin program solely for retrieving passwords when idiot users forget them -- usually the day after they have reset them for some odd reason. In my environment, clients purchase a server and maintenance from me. They are then able to host their own services (web, file, email, etc) on their own server in a kind of black box configuration -- I do all the maintenance, security audits, etc. for them for a monthly fee. Mail accounts (or more correctly, mailboxes) USED to be tied to User accounts -- until I switched to the toaster. A HUGE benefit, if you ask me! However, users cannot host additional domains without calling support (we haven't automated that task yet.) They can edit webpages, and completely manage their email domain (thanks to qmailadmin), but I don't even give them access to toaster-admin, much less vqadmin. When a client asks for a new domain to be hosted on their system, they submit a request via email. At that time, we add the domain to their DNS, create a space for the web pages to be hosted, create an admin account group for the new domain (who are able to edit the web pages), and lastly create the email domain (vadddomain). I actually then add a couple of items: 1) I set the postmaster account to point to MY postmaster account -- I read the postmaster mail for all domains I administer, whether on my own server or a client's 2) I create an admin user mailbox (usually the owner of the company) and set the password to something we've agreed upon earlier 3) I create webmaster and abuse aliases for my own webmaster and abuse email mailboxes (on my own domain) -- same reason as for postmaster 4) I email the client a PDF document that tells them how to log into qmailadmin on their new webpage, how to use THEIR account (not postmaster) and a brief primer on how to create each type of account (mailbox, alias, responder, and list). They can always call for additional support -- but the issues that new users bring up are usually added to our PDF document so we don't have to answer it again! Which brings me back to my current issue... this client is STILL without email this evening, and I'm looking like an idiot because I've checked everything I know how to check... Are there NO CLI diagnostics that can try to find out why (or just as importantly) WHERE qmail-smtp is failing to find the account??? regards... Dan Daniel McAllister, President IT4SOHO, LLC 2171 Wrens Way Clearwater, FL 33764 877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free 727-647-7646 In Pinellas 813-464-2093 In Hillsborough 727-507-9435 Fax Only When did you do your last backup? Ask me about unattended backup solutions... to protect your business, not just your data! Jake Vickers wrote: Helmut Fritz wrote: Jake - wow. I did not know that. I used vqadmin to create my domains and it worked just fine. But that is all I did, create the virtual domains and set the limits for mailboxes, aliases, etc... Then I used qmailadmin to finish things up and create users mailboxes, mail lists, etc. I thought I saw reference to doing it this way either in a mail list thread or in the readme/wiki. Yeah, you can get some strange things by using it. Like the other thread on here that has a corrupted database, with 2147483647 users in the table. Thats one I've reproduced with VqAdmin myself. Best method (which should be on the wiki now, if not email me the incorrect link) is to create the domain via the CLI, and set your limits and such then. Then use qmailadmin to do everything else. - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - QmailToaster hosted by: VR Hosted http://www.vr.org - To unsubscribe, e
