Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
pippin wrote:
> Hm, anything really official should be allowed to get published or it's
> not really "official". Maybe I should have said "an official
> announcement" or something.
> Wasn't there one when the Squeezeboxes were discontinued?
>
As far as I remember there was only the unofficial post in this forum
(which might not have been authorised by Logitech management):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295
And officially there was just the the UE Smart Radio announcement:
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530
And a bit later they also officially posted the open letter to
Squeezebox fans:
http://blog.logitech.com/2012/09/28/an-open-letter-to-squeezebox-fans
However, if they have removed the UE Smart Radio devices from the stores
it's pretty official in my mind, I can remember any time they have done
that in the past where it hasn't meant that they were about to stop
selling the product officially. Just face it, these kind of decisions is
not something Logitech are good at communicating with there customers,
they probably want to be sure someone still buys the UE Smart Radio
devices they have left in the stores. In theory it could also mean that
they are about to announce a UE Smart Radio 2, but personally I doubt
that's the case.
It will be interesting to see how they will handle uesmartradio.com.
Since they still have devices under warranty, I would suspect that they
need to keep something running, but theoretically they can just
downgrade all UE Smart Radio users to Squeezebox Radio and make them use
mysqueezebox.com instead and avoid the need to run two set of central
servers. Of course, doing that would be kind of admitting that the whole
UE Smart Radio product was a mistake and I wonder if the management
really is prepared to do that.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] UE vs SBox skin
Mnyb wrote:
>
> But have any one copied the UE radio backgrounds ? A way is to ssh onto
> the radio before upgrading it to squeezebox and find the backgrounds and
> and use scp to copy them .
You can also just get it from git:
https://raw.github.com/Logitech/squeezeplay/public/10.0/src/squeezeplay_baby/share/applets/SetupWallpaper/wallpaper/bb_blue_en.png
However, I suspect you also need to change icons and other stuff for it
to look the same as UE Smart Radio, just switching the background is
probably not enough. It should all be in the 10.0 branch in git, but
it's probably a bit of work to patch all other stuff since different
parts are stored in different places of the git source code tree.
If you ignore Logitech's license (which doesn't allow you to distribute
artwork), it would probably be possible for someone to do a patch for
Patch Installer applet that switches the skin to the UE version. It
might be easiest to do as you suggest and get the files from a
temporarily upgraded UE Smart Radio and just copy the files from:
/usr/share/jive/applets/QVGAlandscapeSkin
/usr/share/jive/applets/QVGAbaseSkin/
The instructions how to make a Patch Installer package is found on the
wiki:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Patch_Installer_applet
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100306
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Maximizing/minimizing album artwork on Radio display
SamS wrote:
> I never knew you could shrink/expand the artwork, and more importantly,
> how do you do it? Kids these days!!
>
Turn the knob a few steps.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100037
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Smart Radio and Squeezebox software upgradability
Ikabob wrote:
>
> Now, Michael, is there any hope that a Touch-like Squeezebox and/or a
> Boom-like Squeezebox device might be coming? or are these new
> revelations completely unrelated?
>
> A return of the Touch and the Boom with UE simplicity yet with the
> option of SQUEEZEBOX advanced functionality would be very popular and
> very marketable. IMHO. The Squeezebox ecosystem (Squeeze,ipeng,music
> services, etc.) to me is the greatest entertainment device since the
> television. IMHO
>
Logitech generally don't comment their plans on future products.
It's really great that they made it possible to convert UE Smart Radio
to Squeezebox, but I personally don't think you should read too much out
of it regarding possible future products.
Time will tell if they are working on something new, but if they do, I
doubt they are going to release something that means that they need to
maintain and support two platforms. They probably want to try to get rid
of one or both of the existing platforms, this is the only alternative
that makes sense from an economical perspective as it will likely
decrease their maintenance and support costs significantly.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99027
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
pippin wrote:
> Where's that "like" button when you need it:)
>
I believe you are looking for the already existing reputation star in
lower left corner of each post in the forum.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Smart Radio and Squeezebox software upgradability
mherger wrote:
>
> To address this, starting today we now offer the option to switch
> Logitech UE Smart Radio software to Squeezebox. By doing so, our
> Squeezebox fans can now take advantage of the improved portability of
> the Logitech UE Smart Radio, while still enjoying the Squeezebox
> features they appreciate.
>
Great news!
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStream&p=743516)*.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99027
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade a UE to Squeezebox?
CCusson15 wrote: > Has anyone tried to 'downgrade' a new UE radio, turning it into a > Squeezebox Radio? > > Just curious if it's possible, and hopefully no one has bricked their UE > radio in the process ! > Yes http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OS&p=732419&viewfull=1#post732419 erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98657 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
hip2b2 wrote: > Is > # cd /media > # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin > > The same as > # ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin /media/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin > > ??? > Yes erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
hip2b2 wrote: > > Any help would be appreciated. > Kind of sounds like you have Squeezebox firmware already, maybe you just need to do a factory reset ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
hip2b2 wrote: > That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation. My > belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all > intents and purposes a Squeezebox. > The link is only needed during the upgrade process, it will disappear automatically when you do the factory reset in the last step. The reason for the symbolic link is that the UE Smart Radio firmware will look for firmware at uesmartradio.com (where it will find UE Smart Radio firmware) and the symbolic link will make it take the firmware from the local file instead of downloading it from uesmartradio.com. When the device have Squeezebox firmware it will look for firmware at mysqueezebox.com servers and this will make it find Squeezebox firmware, not UE Smart Radio firmware, as long as you haven't selected on mysqueezebox.com web site that it should be "upgraded" to a UE Smart Radio. hip2b2 wrote: > > Does anyone know of any solutions to remove Logitech for the operation > of the SB and get full functionality. My thought is that one day they > may turn off the tap and force users to -shudder -the Smart Radio. > You will be able to continue use it for local music, internet radio and some of the online services if you have LMS installed on a computer, Raspberry Pi or other similar device. Some of the online services are going to stop working when Logitech shut down mysqueezebox.com, but that's unlikely to happen intentionally while they still have devices under warranty. However, it can still happen by accident since most of the people with the right knowledge has been laid off recently so if it breaks they might not have the necessary people to fix the problems. Future will tell if there will be an alternative solution after Logitech shuts down mysqueezebox.com. I'm not that worried for Radio and Touch since they can be loaded with custom firmware, the problem is bigger for the older devices (Boom, Transporter, Classic, Receiver) but they will still continue to work for local music as long as LMS works. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Changing background color on clock screensaver
You can do it with the Screen Switcher and Custom Clock third party applets. With Custom Clock applet you can through Custom Clock Helper plugin in LMS customize a clock screen with a certain color on the background. With Screen Switcher applet you can configure which screen saver that should be active during certain periods. You can apply for a free 30 day evaluation license to both of them through License Manager plugin or directly through http://license.isaksson.info and try them out to ensure they work as you like before you make the purchase. For the license validation to work you need to install License Manager plugin/applet both in LMS and directly on the Radio. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98109 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
wcndave wrote: > > Some posters were saying some categories don't exist much anymore, > however i suspect that the latter two are both high growth potential, > and Squeeze was the only one that handled them all in a complete house > system. > > Therefore reducing the range to the one item that the kind of people who > frequent this forum will care about the least is a real shame... > Yes, the people on this forum is no longer the ones Logitech want to sell UE Smart Radio to. We are music enthusiasts and that's no longer Logitech's main target. wcndave wrote: > > I am building a and was waiting until then to get a couple of booms, and > 2 or 3 touches, however I am not left with no real options :-( > You can probably get used ones on eBay and similar sites, but I understand your frustration, we all feel more or less exactly the same. However, if you aren't in a urgent need, I would just wait, I'm sure some company eventually decides to take advantage of the market segment Logitech no longer is interested in. Developing new products will take a bit of time, so for any company that started to develop new products just after Logitech stopped selling Squeezebox it's likely going to take at least another 6-12 months before the products are ready to be released on the market. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
wcndave wrote: > > Here's what I see the needs to be source wise: > > 1. Local music ripped and stored on PC / NAS > 2. Listen to Internet Radio > 3. Listen through services like LastFM > 4. Upload your collection online so you always have it wherever you are > > Then you have "how" we listen > > A) living room stereo "high end" > B) kitchen / bedroom style booms > C) On computer > D) Mobile Players > > ... > > which means we lose a load of stuff, and do not gain any significant > killer features like online collection to mobile devices or > something... > > .. > > all in all doing a market analysis of the needs versus the products does > not seem to have been high on their list... > UE Smart Radio isn't designed for people like you, as you have already noticed, it's not even designed for people who listen to premium online streaming services. IMHO, the control interface is designed for people who listen to 10-20 different internet radio stations and these people don't care much about the audio quality and most of them doesn't have an amplifier in their living room so A and B is the same and C is what they are searching a replacement for, so it's really only D that's missing but I'm honestly not sure these users even want D and if they do they just use their smart phone (if they have one). So as long as 2B is a "yes" in your example Logitech has successfully provided what their target user for UE Smart Radio is interested in. The question is just how big the 2B user category is, even if most of us doesn't think there are a lot of users who are only interested in 2B it might be bigger than we think among the masses, it wouldn't surprise me if the most common Squeezebox user today owns a single Squeezebox Radio. So I think it's important to realize that UE Smart Radio isn't a Squeezebox and it will never be a Squeezebox (unless you manually downgrade it to Squeezebox firmware), it's an internet radio device with some premium features. Unfortunately the current price is not set according to an internet radio, it's set for a Squeezebox kind of device, which probably means that there are currently a limited amount of people who really loves it. I suspect the users who only needs something for the 2B category really is looking for devices at $99 and below. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
gundelgauk wrote: > This is entirely correct. My point is that not only is the local > interface gone (I was prepared to live with that). But there is no > alternative given. I cannot manage my library through the new web site > either. So the only option now is the smartphone app which is no option > for me. I realize this seems incredibly nit-picky since I'm probably the > only one of 10.000 users affected by this. I don't expect this to change > for this exact reason, most people won't be affected by it. Just wanted > to share this fact in the rare case someone else may be affected by this > also (preferring the local interface). So please don't misunderstand: I > don't really mean to be destructive, my intention was just to share the > experience and facts. > IMHO, Logitech's smartphone app doesn't really help for library management, it's useless if you have more than 50 albums because it's missing the possibility to scroll to an artist/album starting with a specific letter. At the moment you need the iPengUE app if you want to get some kind of overview of the local music library. The same limitation also applies to online music by the way, while searching works it's almost impossible to browse a big online collection in Spotify or Deezer using Logitech's app. It's pretty clear to me that the Logitech's smartphone app is optimized for playing music through predefined favorites and for this it works great as long as you only have 10-20 favorites. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
gundelgauk wrote: > Thank you for your reply. Of course you are correct and I was aware that > they seemed to push their smartphone app with this new software. I just > personally do not want to use it. Honestly speaking, it just boggled my > mind how they kept the same software base for the streaming server and > just stripped the control interface feature. So to me personally they > gave no benefit at all but removed a major feature at the same time. > Sorry if it seems unwarranted, I just felt the need to share this > experience because I could not really understand their reasoning there. > I may have overreacted, but maybe I can save someone else the time with > this experience. > You didn't overreact, I just didn't understand that you were talking about the computer based control interface. If the UE Smart Radio becomes a success, I'm pretty sure someone (Logitech or third party) eventually will create a computer based browsing interface if there is a lot of users requesting this. The only issue is that there isn't any documentation regarding the API's, but pippin has obviously been able to do it on the iPad/iPhone with iPengUE so I'm fairly sure it would be possible for someone to do the same on a computer. For me personally, I have a lot more need for the computer based browsing interface on my Touch, on the Radio's I rarely use a computer and often not even an iPhone/iPad to control them. I think the reason for this is where the Radio devices are placed (Bedroom/Kitchen) and the fact that I often just want to listen to a favorite on the Radio's while I do more browse oriented listening mainly on the Touch which is placed in the main listening room where I'm often sitting with an iPad or laptop in front of me. gundelgauk wrote: > > I did a factory reset and set up my radio from scratch. Now internet > radio is possible again, fortunately. However the mysqueezebox-site > still says "Your Squeezebox Radio has been updated to UE Smart Radio and > will no longer work with this Web site.". I can control my radio via the > local server though and internet radio works again, so I'm content with > that. What a scary experience. > This is the downgrade procedure I followed when I did it previously: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=725956#post725956 As you can see in the last point you should in the player settings page on mysqueezebox.com have an option to cancel the UE Smart Radio upgrade. Possibly it might require you to connect to mysqueezebox.com first, so try entering one of the My Apps menus and see the option appears after that, also try to restart the Squeezebox Radio, I'm not sure it appeared directly after the factory reset or if I had to restart it a second time before the cancel option appeared on mysqueezebox.com. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
gundelgauk wrote: > * After the library scan: How can I stream my music? The uesmartradio > site provides nothing at all. The software itself neither it seems. So > to summarize: The software is the same bloated thing but stripped of its > most useful feature, the "local" (browser based) interface. > Didn't the UE Music Library appear on the menu on the UE Smart Radio/iPhone/Android device so you could browse it and stream music in similar way as you did on the Squeezebox Radio ? That's how it's supposed to work. There is now way to browse the library using a computer, the computer based browsing interface has been dropped for the UE Smart Radio products. If you want similar browsing experience to a Squeezebox and have an iPad/iPhone, I strongly recommend getting the third party iPengUE app, you will never go back to the Logitech apps after that if you have a need to browse and play music from a local library. The Logitech apps works great for people that only have a need to listen to 10-20 favorite radio stations available in one of the internet radio services supported by Logitech, but for more advanced browsing you really need something like iPengUE to make it useful. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
pepo wrote: > I have a question about this tutorial > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=715276#post715276 > > I don't have enough space in folder /media on the Radio > > how do I make this sentence? > > "Then ssh into the Radio and create a symlink from /media to the /dev > Código: > cd /media > ln -s /dev/baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin baby_10.0.0_r16943.bin" > > I don't know what is a symlink. > > many thanks. > I would strongly recommend you to try to do the upgrade through mysqueezebox.com, it's a lot easier and a lot less risk of doing something wrong if you aren't familiar with Linux. Have you tried a different web browser/computer ? Have you tried to do it while the Squeezebox Radio is connected to mysqueezebox.com by going into one of the "My Apps" menus first ? (I don't think this is needed, but I don't remember for sure) Have you tried to call Logitech support, I'm sure they are very willing to help you with this as they want people to be able to upgrade to the UE products. (The symlink is the "ln -s" command.) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
toby10 wrote: > Why do you want to update to UE? You will lose a lot of SB features & > functionality > At the moment I can only see two reasons: 1. A simple user who mainly use the Squeezebox to listen to internet radio and think it's confusing to have all the other functionality the Squeezebox provides. or 2. A user who want to try and see what the UE Smart Radio product really looks like and works. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
pepo wrote: > I have a Squeezebox Radio and I want to Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio, > but I have some problems because when I log in my account in > www.mysqueezebox.com I don't see the content in the "Update to UE Smart > Radio" banner in the middle of the page. > > Then I like to Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio with the firmware > > http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/10.0.0/ > > Are there any tutorial to update firmware with winscp? > > thanks > Here it is: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=715276#post715276 But it should work to do it through www.mysqueezebox.com, if you don't see the text and "Learn more" button in the "Update to UE Smart Radio" banner it sounds like you have javascript or something similar disabled in the web browser. Can you maybe try with another web browser/computer and see if it works better ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Connecting Radio to mysqueezebox.com
Tarik wrote: > No reason to have no wifi when LMS PC is switched off. Router is still > on. > What does Settings/Advanced/Diagnostics/Wireless Info display ? If it displays "Not Connected" it means that you have problem with the wireless network between the Radio and the router. In that case, are you saying that it switches to connected when you start the LMS PC ? Does it connect to the wireless network if you goto Settings/Advanced/Networking/Choose Network and select the wifi network ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97688 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
chipmalee wrote: > From their app list, looks like Facebook and Flickr apps are gone. > http://ue.logitech.com/en-gb/articles/smart-radio-services > Honestly, I can't say I'll miss these two particular apps very much, always felt like a marketing trick to get more users by being able to put a Facebook/Twitter compatible sticker on the box. Still, based on that, it's a bit strange that they chose to remove them in the UE Smart Radio which they even try to advertise through their Facebook channel. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
chill wrote: > > Aside from this philosophical point, current versions of the server > software are pretty good in my experience. I was running 7.7.something > with no issues, and upgraded to a 7.8 beta, also with no issues. > My feeling is that 7.7.2 is the best release since 7.5.5, at least as long as you disable image/video scanning. 7.7.2 have some advantages and some disadvantages compared to 7.5.5, so it depends on how you use it if 7.5.5 or 7.7.2 works best. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: > Thanks erland. > > You say "the Radio will likely only work...". Do we have confirmation > of this? It would be good to have a definitive answer on this to save > other needlessly thrashing about trying to get something that won't work > to work. > The only definitive answer I know is the stuff I posted in the following post earlier in the thread (which refers to board revision 7): http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OS&p=727744&viewfull=1#post727744 Plus what pippin mentioned based on his experience of people purchasing a Radio earlier this year who tried older firmware versions. If hardware is changed, it's not that strange that older firmware versions won't work. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: > I don't have a UE smart radio, it's a squeezebox radio. > > I may have confused people because this thread is indeed about > downgrading the UE smart radio. > > The only reason I posted here was I wanted to know if the manual > firmware update procedure described here would be applicable to moving a > squeezebox radio to a different FW version. > > I will be bummed if it turns out that the radio that I have is not > compatable with 7.5.5. > > Tonight I will gather information on the hardware version. Perhaps it > is a case that even though it isn't a UE smart radio, it essentially is > due to the hardware revs. > If it's a Radio purchased this year it likely have the same issues as UE Smart Radio. If it's an older Radio it should work to just connect it to an older Squeezebox Server version and if that doesn't work the manual downgrade procedure should work. Check the hardware revision by login via ssh and run: cat /proc/cpuinfo The hardware revision is listed at the end, something like this: Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision: 0005 If Revision is 0007 the Radio will likely only work with 7.7 firmware, but if it's 0005 or lower you should be able to downgrade it manually. If manual downgrade directly to 7.5.5 doesn't work, you can try to do it in steps, you will find the firmware files here: http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
maggior wrote: > > It seems to have come with later firmware. I'm running 7.5.5 for my > server. I managed to connect it to mysb.com and upgrade it to the > firmware there. But, when I try to connect it to my local server, it > fails to update the firmware. It starts and immediately fails. > As I've understood the UE Smart Radio is unlikely to work with any Squeezebox firmware prior to 7.7, so I'm afraid you probably have to upgrade your server to be able to use the downgraded UE Smart Radio with local music. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Larger Clock when alarm is on?
hip2b2 wrote: > Has this patch ever been updated to the most recent SBradio OS? Bought > this for my wife (he says tongue firmly planted in cheek) and the snooze > screen saver is causing me no end of grief. > I'm afraid not, Logitech changed the firmware a bit so it needs adjustment and testing and I haven't been able to prioritize it so far, I have it on the todo list but I started to look at it some time ago and realized it required a bit of work, so I can't promise I'll get the time in the near future. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78973 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
The downgrade procedure to "downgrade" an "upgraded" Squeezebox Radio is now posted in public by Logitech for those who want a clear official instruction: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-UE/Squeezebox-radio-upgrade/m-p/931642#M442 I still suspect this will only work as long as you don't keep running the UE Smart Radio long enough for Logitech to publish a new firmware update, since it only reverts to the previous firmware, but I guess you should be pretty unlucky if that happens during the short time you need to try out the UE Smart Radio firmware to see if it's something you like. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: > Not really. I just remembered that earlier this year "baby2" firmware > strings started to show up in the firmware repos. > > And recently a friend of mine tried to do the same thing as you: > installing a 7.5.x firmware on a newly purchased Radio. > It failed with obscure errors and he SSH'ed into the device and had a > look at the logs and there was a message about an incompatible firmware > revision. > I think his Radio came with a 7.7.1 firmware pre installed so it looks > you can't go back to pre-7.7.1 firmware revisions. There simply is no > compatible firmware for older server versions. > > The crashes being caused are probably because there is no mechanism to > distinguish the devices (both are called baby) so your server will try > to install the old version even though it's not compatible. > >From firmware svn logs: Code: r9597 | fmueller | 2012-02-02 20:36:51 +0100 (Tor, 02 Feb 2012) | 4 lines Bug: n/a Description: Support for LiteOn light sensor - LiteOn light sensor support starting with board revision 7 r9596 | fmueller | 2012-02-02 20:31:35 +0100 (Tor, 02 Feb 2012) | 5 lines Bug: n/a Description: Support for LiteOn light sensor - Copy existing MSP430 firmware file for board revision 7 - Allow firmware to run on board revision 7 r9595 | fmueller | 2012-02-02 20:25:31 +0100 (Tor, 02 Feb 2012) | 4 lines Bug: n/a Description: Support for LiteOn light sensor - New redboot bootloader to increase board revision to 7 Feels like this could be related. In that case it means that you need 7.7.2 or later firmware if you like to "downgrade" a UE Smart Radio to a Squeezebox. The command Code: cat /proc/cpuinfo on my Radios's lists two rows at the end of the output saying: Code: Hardware : Logitech MX25 Baby Board Revision : 0005 If anyone have a UE Smart Radio is willing to try to run cat /proc/cpuinfo and see what Revision it reports we can confirm it. If it says 7, that's probably a fairly strong indication that the above mentioned firmware changes is needed to make the firmware work properly, which means you need 7.7.2 or later firmware. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
frussqueeze wrote: > This is for a UE Smart Radio purchased in the store. Not upgraded. Real > retail UE Smart Radio. > Ok, that at least indicates that the kernel is the same both for UE Smart Radio and for an upgraded Squeezebox Radio. If I on my upgraded run Code: cat /etc/squeezeos.version It reports Code: 10.0.1 r16963 r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012 Base build revision: b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519 Is this also the same on yours ? If that part also is exactly the same, it's indication that not just the kernel but the whole lower level operating system is the same. Some other things to compare are: Code: cat /proc/bus/input/devices Which on mine gives: Code: I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name="mxckpd" P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input0 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event0 B: EV=3 B: KEY=8000 38 4000 240 4001 f800 1 I: Bus=0019 Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name="front panel" P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event1 B: EV=3 B: KEY=120400 0 0 0 I: Bus= Vendor= Product= Version= N: Name="msp430" P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/class/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event2 B: EV=35 B: REL=300 B: MSC=8 B: SW=2 And Code: cat /proc/modules Which gives: Code: ar6000 142684 0 - Live 0xbf00 And Code: cat /proc/devices Which gives: Code: Character devices: 1 mem 4 /dev/vc/0 4 tty 5 /dev/tty 5 /dev/console 5 /dev/ptmx 7 vcs 10 misc 13 input 14 sound 29 fb 90 mtd 116 alsa 128 ptm 136 pts 207 ttymxc 252 imx_adc 253 ubi0 254 rtc Block devices: 1 ramdisk 7 loop 31 mtdblock In the end, the more similarities there are, the bigger chance that a manual downgrade might work. But the first UE Smart Radio customer who tries to downgrade to Squeezebox firmware is always going to take a risk as long as we can't a confirmation from someone from Logitech. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
frussqueeze wrote: > Erland, I did uname -a, here is the result: > > > Code: > > > Linux SqueezeboxRadio 2.6.26.8-rt16 #1 PREEMPT RT Tue Sep 25 12:42:18 PDT 2012 armv5tejl GNU/Linux > > > > > does that mean anything? Just to be sure, is this for an upgraded Squeezebox or for a UE Smart Radio purchased in the store ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pssc wrote: > > Is the UE Radio running the name kernel as the SB Radio? > Except for the date, the uname -a reports the same on my Squeezebox running Squeezebox firmware and on the Squeezebox which have been upgraded UE Smart Radio firmware. Squeezebox Radio with Squeezebox firmware: Code: Linux SqueezeboxRadio 2.6.26.8-rt16 #1 PREEMPT RT Mon Sep 12 21:59:07 MDT 2011 armv5tejl GNU/Linux Squeezebox Radio with UE Smart Radio firmware: Code: Linux SqueezeboxRadio 2.6.26.8-rt16 #1 PREEMPT RT Tue Sep 25 12:42:18 PDT 2012 armv5tejl GNU/Linux If someone with real UE Smart Radio have enabled the Developer menu and SSH access according to this, try logging in with ssh and see what uname -a reports: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=715317&viewfull=1#post715317 I believe the firmware upgrade logic in UE Smart Radio firmware allows Logitech to feed individual devices with different firmware, so it's possible that the kernel in a real UE Smart Radio is different than the one in an "upgraded" Squeezebox Radio. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Change prompt in ssh session to Squeezebox Radio.
APDK wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to change the prompt of the ssh session from # to > something like "hostname#" and save this? > I would like this to see on which of the 3 Squeezebox Radio's I have I > am working. > > I can change the prompt with #PS1="hostname #" during the session but > can not save this. > The next time I log in I've got the # again. > > thanks, This works for me Code: echo "PS1=\"\`hostname\` #\"" > /root/.profile Or if you want to set it to something custom and not the /etc/hostname value: Code: echo "PS1=\"mywonderfulsqueezebox #\"" > /root/.profile Basically create a /root/.profile file which contains the same command you run from the command prompt. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97378 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
frussqueeze wrote: > > Is there any way of downgrading this to our familiar Squeezebox > firmware? > No Or at least nobody has dared to try the manual method described here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=725564&viewfull=1#post725564 The issue is that the hardware is a little different in the UE Smart Radio, so loading Squeezebox firmware on it might work, but if it doesn't work you risk turning the device into a brick where it won't start anymore and you can basically not use it. So only try this if it doesn't matter if your UE Smart Radio completely breaks. frussqueeze wrote: > > Or is there any method of showing current music library in UE Radio > using the above setup? > You can use it with a music library on a computer, but you won't be able to use it with a music library on a USB drive/SD card inserted into the Squeezebox Touch. Unfortuantely there aren't even any official distribution from Logitech of UE Music Library server for NAS boxes, so you basically need a Windows or Mac computer to get an officially supported version. However, UE Music Library works on Linux if you install it from git (from the public/10.0 branch: https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/tree/public/10.0), but to do this you need to know a bit of Linux and git. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Unable to configure Custom Clock for Squeexebox Radio
Kamikaze wrote: > > Wich Menu do you mean ? On the Touch ? > A sub menu in the "My Apps" menu on the device where you want to install/configure Custom Clock. If you are trying to install Custom Clock on a Touch and have a USB drive connected to the Touch, it's also worth to temporary try to shutdown the Touch, disconnect the USB drive, start the Touch and see if it works after that. This will ensure that the built-in server in the Touch doesn't cause any problems. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85640 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
franjo wrote: > > Very inconvenient: there is no way to change the order of the favorites. > > > Maybe with a smartphone this will work but not with the webinterface > like on mysqueezebox.com. > It's not possible using the smart phone app for iPad/iPhone as far as I can see. I guess you will just have to make sure you add the favorites for the most important stuff first so they appear at the top. If you discover something interesting later, you can always delete all favorites and re-add them in the correct order afterwards. Yes, I know it's silly, but that's the way we have to handle it at the moment. franjo wrote: > > For me it is mainly a radio to listen to radio stations. Why did > logitech ommit this usefull feauture ??? > Generally it sounds like you are the perfect UE Smart Radio user, I believe the UE Smart Radio is focused on people who mostly listen to internet radio. I guess Logitech just removed the web interface for management of favorites and when they did this they didn't realize that they also lost the reordering functionality, hopefully this will be corrected in a future version of the firmware, smart phone app or uesmartradio.com web site. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
Theodor wrote: > Hello same problem overhere , cant get the old firmware back. > It's Always loading the new firmware. > Mi eyes are not that good anymore so a used big font on mi pc to control > the radio. > Please help logitech the radio is now useless for me... > If you want help from Logitech you need to contact Logitech support, there is a link at the top of this web page. Logitech employees doesn't read this community forum. If you want to try to do it yourself, the following process worked for me: 1. Turn off the Squeezebox 2. Hold the << (REW) button on the Squeezebox while powering it on (not the "right arrow" button, the "rewind" button) 3. The Squeezebox now starts with the previous firmware, but you need to do the following steps to make it stick that way. 4. Select to make a software update in Settings/Advanced/Software Update menu (Might be easier way to do this, but I've found that a software update will make the firmware stick the next time your restart the device) 5. After the software update, do a factory reset in Settings/Advanced/Restore Factory Settings menu 6. Goto mysqueezebox.com and select ot cancel the UE Smart Radio update on the player settings page This process only works as long as you haven't upgraded the UE Smart Radio firmware after you first upgraded to UE Smart Radio, the reason for this is that the operation in point 2 reverts to the previous firmware and if the previous firmware is UE Smart Radio the following steps in the process will obviously not work. If point 2 doesn't work, it's best that you contact Logitech support. There is a manual way to do it through SSH and editing a text file with the Linux vi text editor, but I can only recommend that for people who is familiar both with ssh and vi. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
pippin wrote: > This is interesting: > Logitech support sends out e-mails where they claim you can simply go > back by doing a factory reset, the holding "<<" (not back, the rewind > button) while it boots and then selecting the SB firmware. > > I tried it and it doesn't work for me but then I updated my radio > manually to the first available FW and have seen updates since then, so > this might be different if you update through MySB now. > Has anybody else heard of this procedure and did it work for someone? > I tried this a bit. Holding << immediately after selecting Factory reset menu doesn't help. However, turn it off and then hold << while power it on will revert the firmware to the previously installed version. As long as you haven't upgraded the UE Smart Radio firmare after you initially switched to it, this will return it to the Squeezebox firmware. After returning to Squeezebox firmware a reboot will turn it back to UE Smart Radio, so while it's using Squeezebox firmware you need to do something to make it stick. I did a firmware upgrade to the same version already installed and that made it stick when I rebooted it next time, I guess there is probably some hidden keyboard command to make it stick without having to do a firmware upgrade. On mysqueezebox.com it works like this. - When you have selected to upgarde to UE Smart Radio a new menu will appear on the Squeezebox which you need to select to upgrade. - After upgrading there is no way to access any settings on mysqueezebox.com. - If you rollback the firmware as described above, to turn it into a Squeezebox, you can access its setting on mysqueezebox.com again (after a factory reset) and cancel the upgrade to UE Smart Radio and this will also make the "Upgrade to UE Smart Radio" menu item disappear from the Squeezebox screen again. So to sum it up, the << operation will work for now, but if you stay on UE Smart Radio for a while so Logitech publish a new firmware version which you upgrade to, I believe you will have to use the manual method to get back to Squeezebox firmware. I can confirm that the manual method works, just tried it in my own setup. Hopefully Logitech realize that a geeky solution like the above won't work for normal users and soon publish a better solution for people that regret the UE Smart Radio "upgrade". erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Unable to configure Custom Clock for Squeexebox Radio
Kamikaze wrote: > 1. Yes > 2. No, made no changes on the System > 3. Yes, i have the licensed Version, the Applet is installedand Custom > Clock is shown as licensed. As i wrote, on the older Touch it is still > working, but i can not change the styles, same on 2 SB Radios > 4. Have both restarted right now, no changes, still does not work :( > Does the mysqueezebox.com connection work ? Can you try to temporarily browse into something in the "My Apps" menu ? I'm just asking because I know some people had issues some time ago when mysqueezebox.com was unavailable. Also, if you are looking the the server.log in SBS, are there any errors ? You will find it through the SBS Settings/Advanced/Logging web page. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85640 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Unable to configure Custom Clock for Squeexebox Radio
Kamikaze wrote: > I am running SBS on a NAS. > Music is playing from the NAS, so the Player ( a new Touch) is connected > to it. > On my older Touch i have installed it a year ago, and it works with no > Problem till today. But i cant change the Clock Styles any lonmger on > this older Touch too !! > 1. Do you have Custom Clock Helper plugin installed in SBS ? 2. Have you changed anything in SBS recently ? Or anything in the Touch ? 3. Are you running the licensed version of Custom Clock ? If you do, do you have License Manager applet installed ? Does the Settings/Advanced/License Manager menu on the Touch indicate Custom Clock as licensed ? 4. Does it help if you restart SBS or restart the Touch ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85640 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Unable to configure Custom Clock for Squeexebox Radio
Kamikaze wrote: > Same here, SBS is running, Custom Clock Helper is running. > > Erland, do you have an solution ? > Are you running LMS or SBS on a computer or NAS ? If you are, try to browse to the "My Music" menu first so the player connects to LMS/SBS and then goto Custom Clock menu after this. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85640 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
gilbreen wrote: > > One caveat, once I rebooted and was back at an SB radio, when I logged > into mysqueezebox.com, I got a message stating that my radio had been > upgraded and I had to use uesmartradio.com to manage it. For kicks and > giggles, I did a factory reset on the radio, and was again able to add > it to my mysqueezebox.com account and am now controlling it as before. > > I may have forgotten a step but everything I did was from this thread (I > have little to no Unix experience) and as an aside, this was all done > from a Mac using Terminal. > > Hope this helps others who are thinking of doing it. > Thanks, it was this last part I was worried about, it's great to see that a factory reset solves it. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
steinbch wrote: > I logged in today and noticed that they now are offering the ability to > Update to the UE firmware directly from mysqueezebox.com. I didn't go > through with it because I was not happy with the way the UE firmware > worked when I upgraded myself. This is helpful for those of you who > were looking to 'update' without the hassle. I'm not sure there is > anything of real value yet to make anyone upgrade. > For anyone that wants to upgrade, remember that the upgrade is easy but if you later regret the decision I don't think there is an easy way to go back. To revert to Squeezebox Radio firmware if you have selected to upgrade to UE Smart Radio firmware you have to activate the development menu and use a SSH client as described previously in this thread. However, I've no idea if this even works when doing the official upgrade, because if you have selected to upgrade the official way your Radio might be marked on mysqueezebox.com as one that should be upgraded, so there is a risk it will upgrade to UE Smart Radio again immediately after you have downgraded it. If someone has decided to permanently upgrade to UE Smart Radio, or if anyone from Logitech still reads this thread, it would be great to get a confirmation if the manual downgrade still works after you have used the upgrade button now available on mysqueezebox.com. Hopefully you can still do it by removing the device on mysqueezebox.com, but it would be great to get this confirmed if someone is willing to try it. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] UE Smart radio - "transferring ownership" question - deleting from my account
There is a "Delete Player" button on uesmartradio.com. However, for me that button is disabled, I'm guessing it's the same for you ? I would try if it gets enabled if you turn off the UE Smart Radio device and if it doesn't I would just call Logitech support and ask for assistance. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96930 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
kamaran wrote: > Thanks any more comparisons or ad/disadvantages? > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295 Generally, IMHO, the biggest disadvantages with the new UE Smart Radio platform is: - No support for third party plugins or applets - You can't plan any music if you internet connection is down or unstable - There are currently no players without built-in speakers which will make it hard to build a good whole house audio system with it - The current version of the Logitech iPhone app is basically useless if you have a bit larger library, it's faster but it's missing critical functionality such as a possibility to navigate to artist/albums starting with a certain letter, in a library with 2000 albums you basically need to scroll through 2000 albums to reach the end and be able to play the album starting with letter Z. - Generally a lot less functionality and parts of the software still feels like it's in a beta state. The only advantages with the new UE Smart Radio platform is: - It's a bit more likely that Logitech will actively support it, at least if a lot of users buy it - No need to switch between different servers, the system will talk to the correct server automatically - Generally a lot less functionality, which can make it easier to use for people who just want a very simple device to play internet radio and have a small or no local music library Since the Squeezebox Radio and UE Smart Radio hardware is basically the same, I would currently recommend people to get the Squeezebox Radio if you want to get one of these devices as it makes it possible for you to use the old way and later upgrade to the UE Smart Radio experience when you have seen that Logitech is committed to make the UE Smart Radio a success. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
vining wrote: > i just installed the UE beta on a VortexBox and one of the 1st steps in > the web gui setup is to enter your MySqz.com account and pass so it > apparently needs it as well. From what i've seen using it so far there > isn't any noticable difference other than the name and an icon or two. > The CLI is the same and it works with my AMX module that I developed for > LMS. > Sounds like the UE Music Library beta for Vortexbox is based on the very unofficial version which still supports Squeezebox devices, at this time we don't know if Logitech will distribute or maintain this version of UE Music Library, it's definitely not available through their uesmartradio.com or mysqueezebox.com pages and I don't think it's even available as nightly builds for Windows. The official UE Music Library version doesn't ask for mysqueezebox.com account at installation and doesn't allow easy installation of third party plugins as the "Plugins" tab is disabled and doesn't exist in the settings page, it also doesn't support Squeezebox devices. I'm not sure if the unofficial version uses mysqueezebox.com or uesmartradio.com or both as backend, if it asks you for a mysqueezebox.com account at installation I suspect it uses mysqueezebox.com as backend for Squeezebox devices which means that it isn't any more future proof than LMS 7.x is. vining wrote: > > Since UE is virtually the same as LMS it will probable be easy to > upgrade LMS products to UE software although they might procrasniate so > folks buy new product rather than install updates. The only problem > with that is they don't really have any products except the radio and I > don't think that's even shipping yet. > I think they have started to ship the UE Smart Radio, at least in some countries, as I've seen users posting questions about it in the official support forum who seemed to have one. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mbalari wrote: > Hello, I have a Squeezebox Touch, for 1 year, I am very happy with. > Someone may be explained if I continue using it to listen to internet > radio?, Or just serve as a watch, I'm very puzzled by what Logitech is > doing. > Thanks, > For the foreseeable future you will be able to continue using it the same way you do today, the only difference it that you can't purchase an additional new Squeezebox Touch and it's unlikely to get support for any new streaming services. http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530 The issues only occurs when Logitech eventually decides to shutdown mysqueezebox.com, but this is unlikely to happen anytime soon as they will get in trouble if they shut it down while they still have devices within warranty period. After mysqueezebox.com is shutdown, it might be problematic to use it for some online services, internet radio will likely work if you have setup all channels you listen to as favorites and are using a computer with the LMS software installed. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Radio tol Squeeze OS
Chwarg wrote: > I was wondering if it's possible to downgrade an UE Radio to the > Squeezebox Radio Firmware. > Has anyone tried this, yet? > One of the Logitech developers said that it won't officially be possible, probably because a number of reasons: - It doesn't make sense for Logitech to officially offer a downgrade path as they want people to use the UE products not get stuck with Squeezebox products - I think there are some small hardware differences between the Squeezebox Radio and the UE Smart Radio and this could probably result in that the Squeezebox Radio firmware isn't working properly with the UE Smart Radio. I think it's better that we try to convince Logitech to add back the missing stuff to the UE products so we dare to switch and maybe even can convince them to also offer and upgrade path for the Touch. One of the most important things for them to add back is to support installation of third party plugins/applets, as this will make it possible for third party developers to add back the stuff Logitech don't want to add themselves. I started thread about this in the official UE support forum, so if people agree, please post your thoughts in the following thread: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-UE/Open-UE-Smart-Radio-for-third-party-plugins-applets/td-p/894572 erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96618 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] UE Radio and Sync
Paul Webster wrote: > One of the issues that annoys Squeezebox users is that the new UE Radio > cannot sync with the Squeezebox devices. > I know that UE Radio relies on the new server in the sky but I wonder if > it could be possible to implement a local sync server (ideally as part > of LMS). Perhaps Logitech would consider adding something into the UE > Radio firmware to make such a thing feasible. > Everything is possible, but at the moment the main problem is that they don't allow us to easily install third party applets/plugins: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-UE/Open-UE-Smart-Radio-for-third-party-plugins-applets/td-p/894572 It's still possible to run third party stuff, but it gets a bit too complicated for normal users to install it at the moment. Reading between the lines in their announcement I think it's fairly clear, they have offered us an "upgrade" path for the Squeezebox Radio but I don't think we should expect Logitech to make the other Squeezeboxes work in the UE system. The Squeezebox Touch could probably be patched by third parties to make it work in the UE system, but before doing that I'd like to wait a bit and see if Logitech really is planning to invest resources in the UE Smart Radio system, it's not worth doing if they don't plan to invest more development resources on the UE stuff than what they have done on the Squeezebox during last 1-2 years. The Classic/Boom/Transporter/Duet is unlikely to ever work in the UE system, I think they have to little memory to make it realistic, they couldn't even fit all the codecs they wanted in the firmware if I remember correctly. If you are just talking about synchronization between two UE devices without dependency to the cloud server, I think we are likely going to see something like that if Logitech and ISP's can't make it reliable with the cloud server at uesmartradio.com. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96607 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
HeadBanger wrote: > If I have understood correctly the new UE Radio has to be connected to > the internet where a clould based server will effectively run it. So if > you have no internet connection it will not play any music period - > local or otherwise. Is this correct? > Yes, that's the case in the current firmware version. This is of course just a software limitation so if it causes a lot problems for a lot of users it might be changed in the future. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: Review: Logitech UE Smart Radio � the last Squeezebox?
dasmueller wrote: > > One of the big drawbacks to the new UE Radio from what I have read is > its inability to play a random mix of tracks. This is a very nice > function of the Squeezebox line. Let's hope they integrate that > function into future versions of the software and also come out w a > device one can connect to a home stereo/music system. > They have recently added possibility to play 100 random tracks within selected genres, so there is a function for this, it's just that you have to ask it load up another 100 tracks manually after 6-7 hours or so when the first 100 have finished playing, but I expect this is good enough for most people. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96555 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: Review: Logitech UE Smart Radio � the last Squeezebox?
carp wrote: > Does anyone know how many users are using the Squeezebox system (maybe > by analyzing statistics of mysqueezebox.com)? If this number is only a > small multiple of the number of users of this forum, then it might have > been too little users at all to keep the Squeezebox system - as we know > it - alive. > I'm fairly sure that the number of users regularly reading this forum is minimal compared to all Squeezebox users, I don't have any exact numbers but my guess would be that probably less than 1% of the Squeezebox users visit this forum regularly, so forum members posting their thoughts here are not necessarily representative for the typical Squeezebox user. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96555 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: Review: Logitech UE Smart Radio � the last Squeezebox?
nervoteso wrote: > is it impossible to imagine a jailbreak for new smart radio to open it > to squeezebox system??? > For someone with the right development skills, there is no problem at all to hack it and turn it into a Squeezebox. Hopefully Logitech will open it up to third parties so we don't have to go that route to be able to enhance it, at the moment I feel we should at least give them some time to figure out if they want third parties on the new UE platform or not. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96555 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: Review: Logitech UE Smart Radio � the last Squeezebox?
JJZolx wrote: > The L/UE Radio doesn't work with LMS? > It depends, officially it doesn't work. Unofficially, if you run it from source code from the 10.0 branch and start it with the slimserver.pl instead of ueml.pl, it seems to work at least partly to play music from it both using a Squeezebox and a UE Smart Radio. Just note that this is likely a startup mode which Logitech never officially will support, but it's currently available if running from source. I'm not sure how the Windows exe installation works, I'm guessing it only offers you to start in the UEML mode. Of course, even if starting UE Music Library server this way it doesn't mean that the players can act together, there is no remote control of UE Smart Radio available using traditional Squeezebox remote control apps and you can't control it through the web interface, so in in reality, it's more like a way to use a single server software for two completely separate player systems. It could possibly be an alternative if your computer doesn't have enough horse power to run both LMS and UE Music Library but otherwise you will probably be better of running a LMS instance and UE Music Library instance on the same computer. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96555 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
dr1818 wrote: > In order to reach a webcaster, I need to use a webserver on my local > network to create a Squeezebox compatible playlist. > Will the UE firmware still allow the radio to reach the webserver on my > local network to get the playlist (port not forwarded to the Internet)? > > Thanks > If you have a local playlist file which contains url's that points to your local web service it will probably work also on the UE Smart Radio. How do you play it today with SBS/LMS ? Is it through a playlist or do you use the "Tune in URL" functionality which I don't think exists on UE Smart Radio at the moment. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mbg wrote: > I guess what I was asking is... can you somehow install an old SB Radio > firmware on it, and then use it with LMS. > One of the Logitech developers indicated that they would probably not spend any time to ensure that SB Radio firmware would work with UE Smart Radio hardware, if you want a SB Radio it's better to get SB Radio hardware now while it still is available in some stores or on eBay and similar sites. That being said, he didn't explicitly say that SB Radio firmware wouldn't work with UE Smart Radio hardware, but I believe there are some small hardware differences so there would probably at least be some small issues. I don't expect Logitech to provide any official way to switch a UE Smart Radio to SB Radio firmware, they likely want us to go forward, not backward. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Upgrade SB Radio to UE Radio
pippin wrote: > Well, after having played around with it a bit and letting aside how > much is missing that I definitely need for an everyday system, I _do_ > have to say that the basic idea behind the change, which is to not have > to switch servers and control it in one place _does_ have it's merits. > +1 pippin wrote: > > You can actually build a current playlist containing tracks from several > servers, and that even works if your server is only temporarily > available, like a PC. > I just wish there was a way to view the current playlist you are building, that's not possible in the UE Smart Radio iPhone app from Logitech at the moment as far as I've seen. It's possible to view it on the UE Smart Radio display but I'm not using the UE Smart Radio on device controls when building a playlist, way to hard to search and browse through a big library or streaming service using those. Also, after you have built the playlist, there is no way to save it, neither on the UE Smart Radio directly nor through the iPhone app. Hopefully this is something they are working on but I didn't get that feeling based on the answers I got in the Beta section of the forum yesterday. So playlist management current takes a big step back IMHO. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96256 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
MeSue wrote: > Well, after tweeting my blog post to @LogitechUE, I got two replies... > > > > @SueChastain We read your article and thank you for your feedback. We > > are listening > > @SueChastain Thank you for your feedback on the Smart Radio, we listen > > to our customers > > > > > So, FWIW, they are listening. Let's give them an Ultimate Earful! > Or they are just trying to avoid/silence bad reviews/press related to their new UE Smart Radio products, future will tell if these statements also means that they understand and act based on the feedback. But I agree that it's a positive sign that they read your blog, the reason they noticed it is likely either because you tweeted it to @LogitechUE or because you posted a link in the Squeezebox Facebook group, which both could cause it to be seen by potential new UE Smart Radio users. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
maggior wrote: > To bring this back on topic, I find that the Logitech situation doesn't > upset me as it once did because my setup is pretty much where I want it > already. With the flexibility the Andriod squeezebox player affords me, > I find that I have less places I really need a squeezebox. Perhaps > Logitech is feeling this situation in their sales as others are probably > finding themselves in similar situations. > As I've understood most Squeezebox users only get a single device, users in your situation with no new rooms to put another Squeezebox in might be common in this community but it's very rare when looking at the complete Squeezebox user base. Also, the general public are moving towards premium streaming services and most premium streaming services doesn't work with software based players like iPhone/Android because Logitech blocks them from mysqueezebox.com. I think even Triode's Spotify plugin is blocking some software players because Spotify doesn't allow him stream the content to unknown devices, only to real Squeezeboxes. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
CatBus wrote: > > 1) On the server end, is Linux compatibility still in the cards? > Unofficially it will probably work, it definitely works at the moment. There are only distribution packages for Windows and OSX available on uesmartradio.com but you can still get linux versions from http://downloads.slimdevices.com/UEMusicLibrary_v10.0.0/unsupported/ Officially it's not supported, which likely means that Logitech won't test it as much as they test Windows and OSX, in worst case this eventually means that it will stop working. It's probably a bigger chance that it will continue working if this community embrace the UE Smart Radio solution and help testing it and reports when something breaks on Linux, the question is just how interested we are in doing that as long as it doesn't provide the features we want. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
pippin wrote: > > No way, Logitech is still busy looking through all the videos they grab > from that little camera at the front of the Touch :rolleyes: > I wonder how many people that know that there is a microphone in the Touch, I've tried it and it works. I assume it's used to collect feedback from users, so I always talk nice to my Squeezebox and make sure to never shout at it when it doesn't do what I like :-) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Mnyb wrote: > Clear as mud :) but thanks anyway for trying. > > If we try with a very simple example, if I play one local track what > happens ? In the context of data harvesting. > > If I read the statement correct this info is kept as long I have my > account , and the redacted info freely shared to affiliates consist of > what exactly ? artist, album, song ,some user stats like age and gender > a file hash ? Fill in the blanks . > And who are affiliates ? > Have you taken a look at how the privacy policies look for other cloud services ? I suspect most have one that's more or less similar to Logitech's. Mnyb wrote: > > A gues is that one use for the stats could be figuring out stuff like " > middle age men from Sweden listen to Bruce Springsteen " which is no > surprise but an example :) > As far as I know I've never registered my age nor my sex at uesmartradio.com, so I can't see how they could know that you are a middle age man or that the person using the Radio is the same as the person who have registered on uesmartradio.com. But they could see what people using their UE Smart Radio in Sweden is most interested in listening to. What's more interesting is services like: - Most popular artists this month - Most popular new album this month - Top listened songs in Sweden this month - Your favorite songs - Top listened songs in Sweden which you have access to either in your local library or through streaming services you subscribe to - Songs you haven't listen to for a long time - Other users in your region which like similar songs as you Basically what LastFM and similar sites provide and also similar to what TrackStat provides but with the possibility to both look at your own statistics and statistics for people in your region. The problem is that at the moment it sounds like Logitech don't plan to do anything like this, they just plan to scrobble to LastFM and rely on LastFM to offer any features, which results in that the statistics is restricted to LastFM subcribers and countries where LastFM streaming is available. The result is that it doesn't become any better than what we currently have and then it's not justified to collect statistics like this. If they want me to send them statistics I prefer that they use it to offer interesting features and not just pass it to third parties. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Mnyb wrote: > > The track urls are send up to the UESR.com server for use in the UI ok > awkward and a bit silly on the side, but sure it will work in most cases > . > I suspect the reason they do this is that they want to avoid the bother the user with "server" and let him just choose content without having to know which server that's providing it. This feature is great and something I've always wanted and it makes the system easier to use for non technical users. However, generally I agree with you that the chosen solution is not a good way to implement it, but it was probably the easiest way to implement it if they wanted to base it on the source code from the Squeezebox and LMS. If it had been done the proper way, the UE Smart Radio would likely not be based on Squeezebox/LMS software at all, and this would definitely hurt existing Squeezebox users as Squeezebox/LMS maintenance would be completely ignored. With the chosen solution we can at least get some benefits since it's fairly easy for Logitech to backport changes for UE Smart Radio/UE Music Library to Squeezebox/LMS. An advantage with the chosen solution is that the reliability of uesmartradio.com needs to be a lot better than mysqueezebox.com reliability has been before, because now it's needed for playback of local music and for that it's unacceptable that it's suddenly is gone an hour in the middle of a party. It's annoying if it happens today when listening to some streaming service but it will be extremely annoying if it happens for a UE Smart Radio users as they can't use their device at all if uesmartradio.com goes down. However, I'm sure Logitech will provide a solution for this in a future firmware release if/when they realize they can't ensure the reliability of all ISP's and uesmartradio.com. Mnyb wrote: > > But a real concern is privacy is there any privacy statement on what > Logitech does with this information ? what kind of statistic are > retained and saved what are used internally is some of it used on behalf > of third parties in any way . > As already linked by Michael (and me previously in some thread): http://www.uesmartradio.com/public/privacy It's as clear as any other privacy statement I've seen. We might look at this as a problem, but it could also be the thing that differentiate UE Smart Radio from other products if Logitech would actually start using this data to create mixes, smart playlists, charts and similar thing that would enhance the music listening experience. Unfortunately it didn't sound like this is something they plan to do from a previous reply from Michael, but who knows what will happen in the future, maybe they realize the value of this information and really start to use it as they say in their privacy statement: "We use the information you and your product provide to us in order to provide the Smart Radio service to you and enhance and improve it for you and other users, to provide content recommendations, ...", which could result in something similar to what Apple does with their Genius concept. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
jasell wrote: > > Erlandi, do you have any amazing plans on how to Hi-jack this hardware > platform? > Time will tell, I don't want to say/promise anything more at this time. I generally recommend people to enjoy their Squeezebox at the moment, it works as great today as it did 2 weeks ago and it will continue to work great for at least the next year, so there is no reason to panic and switch to something else already now, it's better to wait and see what the future will bring. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mherger wrote: > > There are technical implications here. Eg. Random Play needs to know all > > of your collection to build the mixes - but you wouldn't want to upload > > all your library information to uesr.com (and we wouldn't want to manage > > it :-)). > Actually, that's more or less exactly what I would like, I like to have the metadata of my collection on uesr.com, at least the metadata for the tracks I've played last 6 months or something similar. With this data you should be able to do a lot of creative, exciting features which really would make the word "smart" in UE Smart Radio to mean something. Take a look at what Apple does with its genius technology and what LastFM/Pandora does. You would probably not even have to handle the data yourself, you could just get a commercial agreement with LastFM and let them store the data if you prefer that, they already have API's for it and so does EchoNest, you just have to pay them a bit for a commercial agreement. Yes, I realize I'm dreaming a bit, I don't really think something like this will happen because nobody at Logitech understands it, but something like this would give UE Smart Radio a competitive edge compared to all other products on the market in similar price range. It would also be a feature which would be a reason for me to move on to UE Smart Radio products if you also start to produce variants that suits other rooms than the kitchen and bedroom. Some people are of course going to be concerned regarding privacy, so an option like this would have to be possible to enable/disable, else you would get a lot of critique. However, your current terms of use agreement on uesr.com would allow you to do things like this as far as I can see. However, to be realistic, I suspect you are right, Logitech will continue to primarily focus on doing basic integration with as many streaming services as possible without really caring much about features that would enhance the music listening experience, it has been this way for the last 3-4 years and even if I would like this to change I don't really expect it to. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mherger wrote: > > Thanks for the clarification Michael. I presume then that if there > was > > enough demand then Logitech could implement the random play facility > by > > enhancing the playback options via uesr.com later on? > > There are technical implications here. Eg. Random Play needs to know all > > of your collection to build the mixes - but you wouldn't want to upload > > all your library information to uesr.com (and we wouldn't want to manage > > it :-)). > > But then I could imagine an extension to UEML (3rd party or not!) to get > > some Random Play like feature by eg. providing a static long playlist > instead of a dynamically always updated list. Start it once a day to get > > you going with some random 100 tracks or similar. More smarts could be > > involved as well, as long as the result sent to the controller > (uesr.com) > was a static list. > Is the performance of long playlists improved in UEML / UE Smart Radio ? The poor performance with long playlists was one of the main reasons why Random Mix and the Dynamic Playlist based plugins had to use the dynamic approach. My Playlist Generator plugin is based on the static approach but its performance got really bad with LMS/Squeezebox when the playlists started to contain a few hundred or a few thousand tracks depending on your hardware. How large playlists are uesmartradio.com able to handle ? or is the restriction in the firmware of the UE Smart Radio in the new solution ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
didjean wrote: > > - The website naming: "uesmartradio.com" (they didn't think of the > future when choosing such a URL) > Not necessarily, it depends on your interpretation of the world "radio", they could introduce "UE Smart Radio for HiFi", it's just that when they say "radio" we are thinking of "Squeezebox Radio" and not "Internet Radio" didjean wrote: > > - The fact that we always need to be connected to the internet to be > able to listen to local content > I bet there are more people that use Squeezeboxes for online music than people with huge local libraries, so this dependency has really existed also with the traditional Squeezebox solution for most Squeezebox users. If we only look at people in this community, which likely is less than 1% of all Squeezebox users, it might be more important that the system works without an Internet connection, but I suspect most people in the community also is listening to online music now and then, it's just that it isn't the main use case, but it still needs to work reliably. Internet is here to stay and most people have an internet connection that are getting better and better so it's becoming less of a problem compared to 5-10 years ago. I generally agree that it would be good to be able to play local music without an internet connection but if they manage to get uesmartradio.com more reliable than mysqueezebox.com it might not be a big issue. didjean wrote: > > - The Random Mix is missing! > Maybe they have made shuffle work properly with large playlists, in this case the Random Mix plugin doesn't provide much as you can just select to play a genre and shuffle the playlist. Yes I know Random Mix provides possibility to include multiple genres, but I suspect most people just want to select a single genre and play random content from it and this will work as long as the system is able to handle reasonably large playlists. It could also be that they wanted to release the hardware already now even if they won't be finished with their Logitech UE Smart Radio Mix functionality until later, but this is just speculation, I honestly don't really think they are working on any smart mix functionality, but who knows, they must have selected the name "smart" for some reason... didjean wrote: > > - Synch with new/old devices. > What's the alternative, if you switch to another system you are probably not going to be able to sync the players of that system with your old Squeezeboxes. I agree that it's bad that they don't support synching with old players but it's not a reason to choose another manufacturer instead of Logitech because you will end up in the same situation with another manufacturer as they also won't support synching with Squeezeboxes. This is of course only the case of the solutions that exist today, we don't know yet if someone will release something that fills the hole Logitech have left by shutting down Squeezeboxes. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
squishy wrote: > > So Logitech must be gambling that there is enough take-up of the UE > radio to provide the needed momentum for their new "Smart" model. > With no backward compatibility, its unlikely to be the existing > community that drive the sales. I know I won't be buying one. > This community represents a tiny part of all Squeezebox users. Also, when searching on Google for Squeezebox this forum ends on the first page of the results, when searching for UE Smart Radio this forum is not anywhere near the the top. So I think it's unlikely that this community will drive any sales, neither directly nor indirectly through recommendations in the near future. If Logitech want the sales of UE Smart Radio to increase quickly they need to find other places to advertise it than through this forum and its members. This might also be something they are aware of and might be a reason why we have seen so little about Squeezebox and this community in the official announcements/statements. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
autopilot wrote: > This is true, but I recall that it pops up again at some point and some > menus do not populate correctly. > As long as you can get through the registration wizard and install Patch Installer applet, we can patch the rest to work, so I don't consider this to be a big issue, we will find a way around it unless Logitech does it for us out of the box in a firmware upgrade. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
nervoteso wrote: > > how can install server and touch wothout mysqueezebox? > If I remember correctly there is a "hidden" swipe action you can use to skip the registration screen during the initial setup, so this won't cause any issues if mysqueezebox.com goes away. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
autopilot wrote: > A service pack or update for your PC or NAS could break LMS though, > right? > > I believe this has happened before, so we should be careful about and > changes, updates and software we install on the machine running LMS. > Just because it runs now does not mean it will always run. When LMS > developmeny completely ceases things could get sticky. An automatic > windows update could break something - how likely is this? > It's fairly likely that it will happen during os upgrades, it's just a matter of time, but Logitech have unofficially said that they plan to maintain LMS and ensure it works with the OS upgrades at least in the near future. When Logitech permanently decide to shutdown LMS maintenance and mysqueezebox.com we need to find an alternative solution, either a community based LMS or something else, but let's worry about that when we get closer to it, it's unlikely to happen during the next 12 months IMHO, so if there isn't an alternative in beginning of 2014 I'll start to worry. I think it's less likely that an windows update upgrade should break anything, but it could happen. autopilot wrote: > > In some respects would tinysc on the touch be a safer long term > solution? > For local music it is safer, if it would work, but for most people it just doesn't work good enough, too slow and unreliable to use in a production environment. Also, I believe one of its issue is compatibility with hard drives, so even if it would work you could end up in a situation where your hard drive crashes and you need to get a new one but there no longer is one on the market that is compatible with the Touch. Any Linux based computer can be as safe as a Touch with the advantage that you will get good performance and a reliable environment with it. If you can't install one yourself there is always VortexBox Appliance hardware which comes with LMS preinstalled or the VortexBox operating system which can be fairly easily installed on any normal computer which you can dedicate for LMS only. autopilot wrote: > > Michael - what are the chances if a final Touch/radio firmware update, > before mysb.com is eventually shut down, that will make future use > easier without it? For example, not expecting and asking for Mysb.com on > the initial setup etc? > I'm pretty sure nobody knows, not even people inside Logitech, they don't plan several years ahead for these kind of details. The initial setup which requires mysqueezebox.com registration after a factory reset can be fixed, don't worry about that part. I also know that it is possible for third parties to load custom firmware or third party applets on the Touch and Radio making them less dependent on mysqueezebox.com. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Mnyb wrote: > > *Privacy ,all your musical habits is exposed to the uesr.com server , no > statement exactly how(if) this data is harvested or used . > They have a privacy policy, it's as clear as the ones I've seen from other companies, so the statement what they collect and what they use it for is pretty clear to me: http://uesmartradio.com/public/privacy But I agree that the UE Smart Radio gets more private information and I'm not sure you have any option to select to not allow them to collect it. Information that's sent to the usmartradio.com service which they don't collect is not a big issue, the issue is the information they collect and use. Of course, if we ever want smart playlists, the new ussmartradio.com now have the possibility to store playback history and in similar way as Apple do with their Genius solution offer smart mixes/playlists based on what you and other people in your region or with similar taste listens to. I'm pretty sure this won't happen because it requires a bigger software development effort than I think Logitech is able to handle, but the possibility is there, so this doesn't have to be all bad. Mnyb wrote: > > *Planned obsolescence on a new level , they can kill your product > remotely be closing the service . Ye olde squeezebox works locally until > the hardware fails . this product dies when Logitech says so . > Also means that it will be a lot harder for them to shut it down and it needs to have better reliability than mysqueezebox.com, so this can also be an advantage depending how you look at it. mysqueezebox.com can be shutdown because you can still use your Squeezebox for local music and they can argue that they shut it down because it's no longer compatible with the streaming services it integrates due to the streaming services making changes in their API's. They would of course still have a hard time doing it while there are devices within warranty period, but they could probably do it when the warranty has expired and be able to defend it. uesmartradio.com would be a lot harder to shutdown because it would make it impossible to use the device at all, they could of course just make sure to distribute new firmware that doesn't depend on uesmartradio.com first and then shut it down, but it would be harder for them to defend. They have a clause in the terms and condition which allows them to shutdown streaming services and file format support but as far as I can see they don't have anything similar that allows them to discontinue support for local playback. http://uesmartradio.com/public/eula erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
nervoteso wrote: > actually why should sb devices stop working if i don't disinstall > LMS they should keep working and i could listen to my local music > stored in nas. it shouldn't depend on internet support! shouldn't it? so > does the problem exist only for mysqueezebox services??? doesn't it? > All Squeezeboxes will continue to work for local music as long as you have a SBS/LMS installed on a computer/NAS. Online music will continue to work as long as Logitech keeps mysqueezebox.com running and at the moment it sounds like they don't have any immediate plans to shut that down, quite the opposite actually, they have unofficially said that they plan to continue maintaining LMS and mysqueezebox.com for the foreseeable future. My guess is the same as others, when the warranty period of the last sold Squeezebox Touch expires we can start to worry that they will shutdown mysqueezebox.com, but that should be at least 2 years in the future so there is plenty of time for the community to find alternative solutions before this happens. So regarding online music, let's start to worry again 2014 if there still isn't an alternative. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
pz1 wrote: > > But in a decent society one might expect that such devices will be > functional for a period of 5-10 years. > 10 years is a very long time, my Squeezebox Classic is now 6.5 years and still working excellently and there is no indication that Logitech plans to break it anytime soon. The Squeezebox Classic is older than most other music related equipment I have in my home, I think it's only the Sherwood amplifier that's a little bit older. Just because Logitech stops selling Squeezeboxes doesn't mean that existing Squeezeboxes will stop working, people from Logitech has already indicated that they plan to keep mysqueezebox.com running, they will probably shut it down eventually but it's unlikely to happen in the near future IMHO. pz1 wrote: > > That being said I am very grateful to Logitech who made me extra aware > of the dangers of buying in to cloud services. > If you with cloud service mean internet radio or online streaming services I can agree that it might be dangerous, if you mean mysqueezebox.com I disagree. If the software isn't maintained it doesn't matter if it runs on the device, on one of your computers or on a central computer managed by Logitech, you have the same problem in all cases, if the software isn't updated with changes made by the content source (radio station, streaming service) it doesn't matter where it's installed, it won't work in any of the cases. I would even go as far as saying that it's more likely that something that breaks on a central cloud server will be fixed quickly than if it's something installed on a device/computer in your home. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
didjean wrote: > Regarding the server, UE will only support Windows or Mac. > Officially this is true, but unofficially UE can run on Linux also, it's just that Logitech support staff won't help you troubleshoot on Linux. The uesmartradio.com web site only contains downloads for Windows and OSX but the unofficial binaries (including Linux ones) can be found here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/UEMusicLibrary_v10.0.0/unsupported/ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
damiano_free wrote: > I have a qnap nas and wanted to buy a squeezebox radio to listen my > local music in wifi, perhaps in the garden with the battery. > With this new UE radio will be possible? exists the possibility to > download the server software for my QNAP nas? or should I look for a > squeezebox radio on the market yet? > Thanks > Dam > Isn't the LMS/SBS packages for QNAP distributed by QNAP ? In that case you should probably ask QNAP instead of here, but generally, it is possible to run UE Music Library server which is used for UE Smart Radio on a Linux machine, so I'm guessing this means that it would be possible for QNAP to create a package and redistribute it as long as they get the necessary permissions from Logitech. At the moment it doesn't look like QNAP provides a UE Music Library package, but I guess we need to give them more than two days to do this, they probably didn't know about the UE Smart Radio any earlier than we did. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
Drongo wrote: > After reading this very sad news I actually went out and got another > SBradio. Can anyone confirm that when I power it up and it tries to > update the firmware, I will still get the latest SB firmware and not the > UE firmware? > Confirmed, a Squeezebox Radio will remain a Squeezebox Radio until you explicitly choose to convert it to a UE Smart Radio, there is no risk that you will do it by accident. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
maggior wrote: > > So the search begins for another solution. By the time I need to make a > move due to booms or receivers dying, hopefully there will be an > attractive alternative. > I'll re-post this even though I've posted similar in other places, but I'm a bit afraid that people won't read through this long thread and it might be missed, sorry for the re-post for those of you that have already read my previous posts. First of all let's not panic yet. I can't go into any further details at the moment but I want to remind everyone that even though we might love the Logitech software we also really love the Squeezebox hardware, the Squeezebox hardware is very open and with custom/patched firmware it's possible to use it without the need for a Logitech maintained software/firmware at all. I do realize we need something that isn't dependent on Logitech hardware/software on longer terms but on short terms the Logitech software/hardware will continue to work great and there are solutions for people that need additional hardware players: - With Apple iPhone/iPod Touch: -- iPeng on an iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad (even have audiophile support with the right docking station and latest iPeng version) -- SqueezePad on an iPad - With Android based hardware: -- SqueezePlayer on an Android devices - With a Vortexbox Appliance, which as previously mentioned isn't just a server, it's can also be a Squeezebox player. Also remember that due to their open solutions it's a not that unlikely that your Squeezebox hardware and the above hardware devices will be reusable in another system, a Sonos hardware would on the other hand very likely only be usable in a Sonos system so going out and buy a Sonos already now would make you even more stuck than you already is. Sonos might turn out to be the best option in the end, but in my opinion it's too early assume that yet. Your Squeezebox system worked great August 28'th, it's working great today and it's also very likely going to work great 6-12 months in the future. On longer terms you might need something else but it's not urgent, so I suggest you wait and see a bit what happens during next 6-12 months before starting to switch to a competing closed or more limited system. I personally don't have any plans to abandon or replace my Squeezebox hardware at the moment. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
bklaas wrote: > > Before I say anything I want to thank Michael for his openness and > candor on this thread. You rock Michael. But you should rename the > thread to "New Not Squeezebox Radio" ;) > +1000 erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
garym wrote: > don't panic. All your stuff will still work. they'll keep > mysqueezebox.com going for at least a couple of years (would be required > to under several countries product laws given that they are still > selling units that require this to work). And they might keep in going > indefinitely. The only current issue I see is that the future hardware > might not be compatible with existing hardware. In terms of LMS and > your own music. This can work forever without logitech's intervention. > I agree and it would surprise me if they shutdown mysqueezebox.com as long as significant amounts of Squeezeboxes are still under warranty period, doing that would result in a lot of warranty returns and that would likely cost them quite a bit. For the Radio they can probably say to users that they need to "upgrade" to UE Smart Radio firmware as a solution to avoid warranty returns, but as Michael mentioned earlier in the thread this won't currently work for the Touch so due to this it's probably likely that they will try to keep mysqueezebox.com running at least for the next couple of years. Except for this I would also advice anyone still thinking of selling their SB hardware to wait a bit. Using SB hardware with patched or custom firmware is possible and this opens up some possibilities to reuse the hardware with completely different firmware which doesn't rely on mysqueezebox.com at all, but I don't want to say anything more regarding this at the moment. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio
mherger wrote: > > but what does this sentence from Engadget mean then? "(Logitech says > > owners of the existing model will get the same software update and > app > > support soon.)" > > Interesting. You could indeed "update" (downgrade - depending on your > POV) > a SB Radio to a UE Smart Radio, because it's basically identical > hardware. > There are plans to offer this path to those users who wish to go there. > > But it's a Radio only path. All other devices cannot be transitioned. > So... beware of that option. > Two questions Michael: 1. If "downgrading" a SB Radio to UE Smart Radio firmware, will it be possible to "upgrade" it back to SB Radio firmware or is it a one way route ? 2. If it's a two way route, is there any chance it will also be possible to "upgrade" a UE Smart Radio hardware to use SB Radio firmware ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96188 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Time/Date Screen while tuned to a radio station?
glhglh wrote: > Does anyone know how to have the Time/Date Screen show, even while > listening to online radio? even if it changed back and forth. > Have you tried to setup it as playing screen saver in "Settings/Screen/Screensaver/When playing" erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96136 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Backup
Robm1955 wrote: > Thanks Erland. Yeah, bit too late, but nerver mind. Just another quick > question. Before I realised the difference between MySqueezebox and > media server, it seems some of my favourites were saved to MySqueezebox, > so these were different to those on my radio (media server). Can I sync > these, or copy them over from one to the other, so I have the same > presets/favourites on both? Or am I asking for too much. > > Just noticed. When I'm logged on to LMS, and choose favourites, I can > access MySqueezebox favourites from there. Can't remember that being > there before. Learning everyday. I think they should be synced automatically, but I'm not sure if it maybe depends on how the "mysqueezebox.com Integration" parameter is set in "LMS Settings/mysqueezebox.com page". Maybe someone else seeing this thread knows exactly how it's supposed to work ? erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95772 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Backup
Robm1955 wrote: > Ther only Server folder I could find was in Program Files\Squeezebox, so > I backed that up, then restored it over the new copy, but all my presets > haven't come back. Only the ones on Squeezebox server. My presets, and > favourites on LMS seem to have gone. > I guess it's too late now since you have already re-installed it, but if you want to do it again in the future you can find the location of the "Preferences folder" by looking in SBS/LMS Settings/Information tab in the LMS/SBS web interface. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95772 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Backup
Robm1955 wrote: > I am going to have to re-install everything on my pc, so I will > obviously loose LMS. Is there a way of backing up all my pre-sets, > favourites etc. so I can just restore them when I re-install LMS? > Are you using any third party plugins ? I'm just asking, because if you use TrackStat, Custom Browse, Multi Library, SQL Playlist, Custom Skip you might also have configuration/data files for these which you need to ensure you have backed up. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95772 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] One Radio against two MySBS accounts?
Ingar wrote: > Is it possible to use the same SB Radio against two separate Mysbs > accounts? My kids have there own SB Radio's and I sometime want's to use > them against my own Mysbs account. (They have there own accounts) > It seems that once I have setup the radio against one account, the only > way to change it is to delete it from Mysbs control panel on my kids > account, or do a factory reset? I think you have found the alternative that exists already, I don't think there is any easier way to do it at the moment. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95491 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Fallback alarm after a few minutes
Loom;695562 Wrote:
> Coming back to my problem again ..
>
> In short: Nothing changed. The alarm still sometimes reverts back to
> the fallback alarm. I even exchanged my router in the meantime,
> upgraded LMS several times.
>
> It was running fine with SBS 7.6, but the problem did start with LMS
> 7.7. The alarm could play for 20 minutes without interruption, and then
> again decises to drop out and play the awful fallback sound.
>
> Music playback is still fine - it runs for hours and hours, without a
> single failure. I still wonder what makes the alarm code so sensitive,
> and why there even is such an interruption as seen in the logs.
>
In my setup I found the issue to be short network problems, which can
happen if you are connected via Wifi. The issue is that this will
trigger the fallback alarm even if the disconnection only happens
temporary during a second. During normal playback this is never an
issue because then the playback buffer handles the issue and there are
plenty of audio data in the buffer so the network problems aren't
noticed.
For some unknown reason Logitech decided to make the alarm code
extremely sensitive to network issues, it's very frustrating when it
happens, would be so much better if it only triggered the fallback
alarm if the network isn't able to recover after 2 minutes or something
similar. Not sure what they were thinking, it's not like I'm going to
fall a sleep during 2 minutes and don't wake up if there is a 2 minute
silence before the fallback alarm triggers.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92078
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] For how long does Logitech guarantee to maintain mysqueezebox.com
Let's not worry about mysqueezebox.com end of life before there at least
are some kind of indication that Logitech plans to shut it down.
At the moment, as far as I know, there is no indications that Logitech
plans to shutdown mysqueezebox.com, quite the opposite actually, they
are scaling it up to be able to handle future load:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=686760#post686760
Why would they scale up mysqueezebox.com if they planned to shut it
down ?
Why would they scale up mysqueezebox.com if they planned to terminate
Squeezebox development ?
There is no reason to worry at all at the moment, maybe it was a few
months back but certainly not now.
If mysqueezebox.com would be shut down, there would at least be issues
with:
- Premium streaming services
- Users who don't like a computer to be powered on while listening to
music
- Artwork on online content on Radio/Touch/Controller (mysqueezebox.com
is used for artwork rescaling of online content)
- Automatic firmware updates
For people that only use the system to play local music via LMS/SBS on
a computer, it would more or less continue to work as it does today.
I'm not sure if a factory reset on Radio/Touch/Controller works without
mysqueezebox.com, I know it connects to mysqueezebox.com during the
initial setup.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93488
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] With 7.7.1, the Alarm is not working.
Tony T;680507 Wrote:
> This happens no matter what time the Alarm is set to go-off. And the
> only thing occurring on the server at that time is the Alarm (the
> server is 'sleeping')
>
> Also, I had no issue before 7.7.1
>
Is it in hibernate mode and started just before the alarm is about to
trigger ?
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92495
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Video streaming
Mnyb;677231 Wrote:
> ...And actual video outputs :) whats the point of showing a video on the
> puny little screen ?
>
A spinning globe with current weather situations and daylight status as
screen saver was my plan when I tried it:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79051
Looked pretty cool, but I never finished it because it used a bit too
much resources for my liking and caused the Touch to reboot now and
then.
However, for video support, the only useful thing I can see is to show
music videos while music is playing on a Touch placed less than 3 feets
from where you are sitting. In such setup showing YouTube and similar
might also be of interest. In the living room, video output is a must
but there I suspect an AppleTV or similar device would be a much better
choice.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92288
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Video streaming
I think theoretically it could be possible on the Touch if someone
developed the necessary software, there actually were some hacking
during the hardware beta where low res YouTube were tested by some
third party developer on a Squeezebox Touch.
For the Radio I think the CPU and memory is too limited, I once tried
an animated image on the Radio, it barely worked on the Touch but it
made the Radio reboot because of high CPU/memory usage.
However, I'm fairly sure Logitech won't try to do video on neither
Radio or Touch, if they want a device with video they are going to make
that with some new hardware that's able to handle it properly.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92288
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] default alarm sound
The main issue for me is not to trigger the alarm initially, usually is
starts to play the server music, then after a while sometimes something
happens that makes the Radio temporarily loose network connection, and
that triggers the fallback alarm and it never returns to the server
alarm any more.
I'd love if anyone would take some time to provide a patch that
completely disabled the fallback when temporarily loosing the
connection with the server.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71991
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Fallback alarm after a few minutes
Loom;674865 Wrote:
>
> If there is a problem with keeping the connection to the server,
> wouldn't this affect normal playback aswell? Never encountered a break
> while playing local songs so far ...
>
I don't think so, because usually it's just a short disruption and the
player audio buffer is able to handle it and it's able reconnect before
the buffer runs out of audio data. The issue is that the alarm code by
design interpret a disconnection as if the server can't be trusted and
the fallback alarm in the player takes over even if it only disconnects
for a second.
I would personally like the alarm to be able to handle short
disruptions on the network but Logitech has decided that this shouldn't
be allowed as there is a risk the alarm will silence and not wake you
up. I guess the alarm is designed to just be a wake-up alarm and not a
player that plays music for 30 minutes when you already is woken.
Loom;674865 Wrote:
>
> Ah, by the way, Erland ... Ever thought of creating a little plugin
> that will allow you to set bookmarks for tracks? I like to listen to
> audiobooks a lot, and it's quite annoying trying to remember where I
> last stopped ...
>
At the moment I don't have much need for a plugin like this myself. I
think there once was a bookmark plugin but I'm not sure if it has been
updated with the latest server versions.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92078
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Fallback alarm after a few minutes
Loom;674680 Wrote:
> Any clues?
>
Looks like it looses connection with the server for some reason, that
will always trigger the fallback alarm.
I think I've also seen it happen more often since I upgraded to 7.7.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92078
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Plug a microphone?
Kako78;673730 Wrote:
> Hi erland,
>
> So you mean one can write an applet that runs on the squeezebox itself.
> That's interesting. I thought plugins were only for the server software.
> I certainly need to read more about squeezebox.
>
> Do you know what programming language can be used for that? C++, Java,
> Python? Also do you know where I could find a good example and some
> documentation?
>
> Best regards,
> Jean-François
>
In most of the cases it's written in lua but you also have the
possibility to develop native applets which are compiled for the
Squeezebox hardware and then you can in theory use any language you
want but I guess C/C++ is the preferred one as all the API's are
available for that.
See here for more information:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Applet_Developing_Guide
Also, this is only applicable to Touch, Radio and Controller, the older
devices (Boom/Classic/Transporter/Receiver) do not support locally
installed applets.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91959
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Plug a microphone?
The Touch actually have a built-in microphone, I've tried it by logging
in via ssh but unfortunately the quality was not too good:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88427
Would probably be possible to use for sending messages but not likely
for karaoke as that probably only works with a real external
microphone. Still, it's not likely something Logitech will spend any
resources to develop further so anything related to this probably have
to be provided through a third party applet.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91959
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm screen issue since 7.7.0 update
madoverclocker;668248 Wrote:
> Since my radio updated itself to version 7.7.0 I have noticed that the
> snooze and turn alarm off screen that usually appears when the alarm
> function activates is no longer there. Anyone else experienced this?
>
It works for me on my Radio.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91438
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is there a way to Change the color of the clock
eeagle;667702 Wrote:
> The author is now using the license manager requiring a $5 per year fee
> or $20 unlimitedkind of expensive just to have the night vision
> saver red display.
>
I'm not trying to argue about the price, but it is about the same price
as one burger meal per year...
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
Interested in music discovery ? See 'Social Music Discovery (SMD)'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=656713) project.
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78353
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Anyone else feel like suing?
I'll just refer you to the old thread with the same ridiculous theme:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82804
Just call Logitech support if your device doesn't work as advertised,
they are their to help you get it to work or offer you a refund if they
can't get it to work as advertised.
I'm in the same situation as the majority of all users on this forum,
all my Squeezeboxes works reasonably good, even with the 7.6 release:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=648014
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'donations are always
appreciated' (http://erland.isaksson.info/donate))
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89445
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Multi Library on SBR?
stevedresden;647596 Wrote:
>
> Is it the formatting of the SQL that the plugin creates being different
> in SQL Lite to MySql?
>
It wasn't before but it is a bit different in the version I released
earlier today to solve this problem.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'donations are always
appreciated' (http://erland.isaksson.info/donate))
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83613
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Multi Library on SBR?
Does the folders you have specify contain any spaces ?
If not, could you specify the exact path you have specified i the Multi
Library configuration which doesn't work ?
There is a bug related to spaces and I plan to release that later today
but if possible I'd like to know if there is some other character that's
causing problem for you.
--
erland
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland). If my answer
helped you and you like to encourage future presence on this forum
and/or third party plugin/applet development, 'donations are always
appreciated' (http://erland.isaksson.info/donate))
erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124
View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83613
___
Radio mailing list
Radio@lists.slimdevices.com
http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
