Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
I've also noticed in the last couple of weeks my SB Radio has been a pain. I walked in the room the other day and it disconnected then reconnected to the network (wired) while my other devices were ok. I usually get the alarm twice in the morning lately, the first is some canned music which I didn't selected, after turning it off I get another alarm with my selected station. I often walk in and it is on my station but is stopped, I need to press the play button to get it to go, I never use these buttons normally. My SB Touch and AR Internet radio are not showing the same issues. -- sckeith sckeith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
I also recommend contacting Logitech support because -- in addition to reasons cited by bpa -- sometimes users here have reported that Logitech has been just plain generous/accommodating in replacing products that are recently out of warranty. It can't hurt to try. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
You should still contact support, They may be able to help for example there may have been a product recall. IIRC with some early Duet controller there was a known problem with the antenna placement which affected some but not all. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
toby10;684578 Wrote: > Check your credit card used for the purchase, it may include Buyers > Protection extending the mfr warranty up to one additional year (giving > you till Oct 2012). Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately my card only gives me 90 days purchase protection - no extended warranty. For the time being I've managed to stabilise my setup by adding an access point in the same room using a spare router. It's massive overkill, but it works. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Check your credit card used for the purchase, it may include Buyers Protection extending the mfr warranty up to one additional year (giving you till Oct 2012). -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Yes - just found it on their site. My 2 years was up in October 2011. Not far off but I doubt they'd be willing to honor the warranty. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;684564 Wrote: > Sadly I fear my Radios are long since out of warranty. I assume the > warranty is a year - would you know? i believe they are two years -- garym *Location 1:* VB Appliance 6TB (1.10) > LMS 7.7.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VB Appliance 3TB (2.0) > LMS 7.7.1 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.7.1 > SqueezePlay Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controllers: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
jakeblade;684506 Wrote: > Just to pick this back up - I had the same problems as you. I suspected > the wifi card in the Radio might be dodgy, contacted Logitech support > and returned the faulty unit. Received the replacement today and been > happily streaming radio all evening, with no dropouts. Finally can > start enjoying my Radio now. Suspect yours has the same problem. Did > you ever return your machine? Sadly I fear my Radios are long since out of warranty. I assume the warranty is a year - would you know? -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670578 Wrote: > Just a quick further update... Last night I disabled the wireless on the > Radio and plugged it via ethernet into a wireless bridge, the idea being > to eliminate the Radio's internal wireless as a source of problems. > This morning I streamed an internet radio station for over an hour, > sync'd with 2 other players, with no issues whatsoever. > > Clearly it's early days, but this certainly hints that the Radio's own > wireless is a problem. Of course doing this rather defeats the purpose > of the Radio as it now can't be moved due to the ethernet link. > > If, however, this remains stable, it would be nice to hear from the > Logitech guys as to what can be done to the wireless (firmware?) on the > Radio to sort it out. If the answer is 'nothing', then at least I know > I need to start looking for another solution such as Airplay speakers. Just to pick this back up - I had the same problems as you. I suspected the wifi card in the Radio might be dodgy, contacted Logitech support and returned the faulty unit. Received the replacement today and been happily streaming radio all evening, with no dropouts. Finally can start enjoying my Radio now. Suspect yours has the same problem. Did you ever return your machine? -- jakeblade == Duet, Boom, Radio SSOTS 4.9.1 on QNAP Turbostation Squeezeserver 7.5.1 DacMagic Rotel RA-06 PMC DB1i jakeblade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670621 Wrote: > Sadly the server can't be wired... Could you use powerline ethernet network? Defeats the object of a portable Radio, I know. Its something im considering for my next tech investment - so i can stream HD over the plug sockets. -- jakeblade == Duet, Boom, Radio SSOTS 4.9.1 on QNAP Turbostation Squeezeserver 7.5.1 DacMagic Rotel RA-06 PMC DB1i jakeblade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670621 Wrote: > Sadly the server can't be wired, but it is running over an 802.11n > connection and only one hop away from the players. Still I doubt the > server is the problem as 2 Booms, 1 SB3, and 1 Touch (all connected > wirelessly) are working fine. > > Yes, I do own the excellent iPeng and the streaming addon, so that > remains an option with a suitable wireless speaker. Of course I can > play back using iPeng on the iPad itself, but the sound quality is, > shall we say, not great. :) There are docks for the iPad/Phone/Pod with speakers, any battery powered ? My simplistic thinking made me wire everything that stays in the same physical location :) I'm also a recovering audiophile ( a bad bug to get ) so Inalways stream lossles or worse 24/96 lossless . For mp3 and webradio one should be able to run a dozen players wirelessly ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Mnyb;670613 Wrote: > Ok :-/ is the server wired at least . > > Your original post frozen menus that can be wifi to much of the menu > content is provide by the server . > > My only player(s) thats not wired now is my radio and the iPad . > > Idea ! install some of the third party players on an iSomething or > Android thing, you might already own such gadget . Sadly the server can't be wired, but it is running over an 802.11n connection and only one hop away from the players. Still I doubt the server is the problem as 2 Booms, 1 SB3, and 1 Touch (all connected wirelessly) are working fine. Yes, I do own the excellent iPeng and the streaming addon, so that remains an option with a suitable wireless speaker. Of course I can play back using iPeng on the iPad itself, but the sound quality is, shall we say, not great. :) -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670608 Wrote: > Thanks. > > For clarity, the bridge is also a 2.4ghz 802.11g device and not 802.11n > or 5ghz. > > The router is located in the middle of the flat. Ok :-/ is the server wired at least . Your original post frozen menus that can be wifi to much of the menu content is provide by the server . My only player(s) thats not wired now is my radio and the iPad . Idea ! install some of the third party players on an iSomething or Android thing, you might already own such gadget . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
garym;670604 Wrote: > Agree. I don't think working on better WIFI is on anyone's short list, > particularly given that wifi works fine for most users. Given that you > need portability, I'm not sure what your options are with regard to > solving the problem. The only options I can think of are: - A Bluetooth speaker connected to either iPhone or iPad. I have the recently announced Logitech speaker on order for travel, so will give this a try at home if sound quality is decent. - An Airplay-enabled and battery-powered speaker such as the iHome IW1. It will of course cost more than a Radio, and there's the small issue that they're not yet for sale in the UK. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Mnyb;670601 Wrote: > yeah the repeater is probably a much better wifi client than the Radio > . > The bridge7repeater is it modern N class device , then it should be a > significant improvement > > I would be surprised if it could be fixed in a fw update it is most > likely a coincidence that it stopped working around the 7.6.1 fw update > . > > I'm quite sure without being 100% certain, that not much tweaking is > done to the wifi part of the code . > > I had similar issues with my old SB3 2-3 years ago at the same time I > upgraded, a neighbor decided to setup a wifi network that disturbed > mine . > Using netstumbler is a good idea . > > Upgrades is pretty frequent and so is the changes in the close by > networks (14 last time I bothered to count ) . > So this inverse serendipity is bound to happen to all of us sometimes > . > > Is it still under warranty , the wifi chip could simply be broken . > > My flat is only 69 square meters my radio works everywhere inside my > apartment my router is somewhere in the middle of the apartment . > > Placement of wifi router, if it sits in a corner of the house most it's > strength is wasted on the outside of the house ,somewhere in the middle > is a good place. Thanks. For clarity, the bridge is also a 2.4ghz 802.11g device and not 802.11n or 5ghz. The router is located in the middle of the flat. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670602 Wrote: > As mentioned above, signal reports 93% (average) on the Radio, so I > doubt that's the problem. > > As for interference, I live in a large block of flats and I know there > to be TONS of wireless networks and devices here without even scanning. > That said, the wireless bridge I'm testing with is also a 2.4ghz device > and it has no such problems connecting to my router and maintaining a > solid signal (from the same position as the Radio). I've already tried > the route of testing various wireless channels and this is essentially > hopeless. Even if I find one that will work better, it won't work for > long. > > In truth I seriously doubt Logitech is going to do anything at all to > the Radio firmware as far as wireless goes, and unless some brilliant > solution (involving changes to settings, different firmware version, or > router compatibility issues) comes from the community I'm likely to be > looking for another (product) solution. I've tried Logitech's support > mechanisms before (email and phone) and it's not an experience I care > to repeat. Agree. I don't think working on better WIFI is on anyone's short list, particularly given that wifi works fine for most users. Given that you need portability, I'm not sure what your options are with regard to solving the problem. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > LMS 7.7.0 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
garym;670595 Wrote: > what sort of wifi strength were you getting reported by the RADIO when > hooked directly to WIFI? Keep in mind that the wifi antenna of the > radio is not nearly as good as the wifi antenna of the bridge you've > attached to (or a laptop, etc.). The other issue is not wifi strength > but wifi interference from other networks. Use netstumbler or > vistumber (google for programs) to find nearby networks. Make sure you > use a different channel than the close networks. And even moving the > radio a few inches can make a big difference. > > This said, I have two RADIOS that are WIFI/battery and I use them all > over my house and deck with no dropouts, even with FLAC files. My WIFI > strength is typically between 60% and 95%, and I'm on very different > WIFI channels than my neighbors. So your SPECIFIC radio may have a > wifi problem or simiply have a weak signal/interference, however there > does not seem to be any general firmware failure of the radio with > regard to wifi use. > > p.s. this is a user-to-user forum. logitech doesn't really read these. > But there are official logitech support forums for both the server and > the SB hardware players where they do read and answer. So if you want > info from logitech, I'd suggest posting over there. As mentioned above, signal reports 93% (average) on the Radio, so I doubt that's the problem. As for interference, I live in a large block of flats and I know there to be TONS of wireless networks and devices here without even scanning. That said, the wireless bridge I'm testing with is also a 2.4ghz device and it has no such problems connecting to my router and maintaining a solid signal (from the same position as the Radio). I've already tried the route of testing various wireless channels and this is essentially hopeless. Even if I find one that will work better, it won't work for long. In truth I seriously doubt Logitech is going to do anything at all to the Radio firmware as far as wireless goes, and unless some brilliant solution (involving changes to settings, different firmware version, or router compatibility issues) comes from the community I'm likely to be looking for another (product) solution. I've tried Logitech's support mechanisms before (email and phone) and it's not an experience I care to repeat. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
yeah the repeater is probably a much better wifi client than the Radio . The bridge7repeater is it modern N class device , then it should be a significant improvement I would be surprised if it could be fixed in a fw update it is most likely a coincidence that it stopped working around the 7.6.1 fw update . I'm quite sure without being 100% certain, that not much tweaking is done to the wifi part of the code . I had similar issues with my old SB3 2-3 years ago at the same time I upgraded, a neighbor decided to setup a wifi network that disturbed mine . Using netstumbler is a good idea . Upgrades is pretty frequent and so is the changes in the close by networks (14 last time I bothered to count ) . So this inverse serendipity is bound to happen to all of us sometimes . Is it still under warranty , the wifi chip could simply be broken . My flat is only 69 square meters my radio works everywhere inside my apartment my router is somewhere in the middle of the apartment . Placement of wifi router, if it sits in a corner of the house most it's strength is wasted on the outside of the house ,somewhere in the middle is a good place. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;670578 Wrote: > Just a quick further update... Last night I disabled the wireless on the > Radio and plugged it via ethernet into a wireless bridge, the idea being > to eliminate the Radio's internal wireless as a source of problems. > This morning I streamed an internet radio station for over an hour, > sync'd with 2 other players, with no issues whatsoever. > > Clearly it's early days, but this certainly hints that the Radio's own > wireless is a problem. Of course doing this rather defeats the purpose > of the Radio as it now can't be moved due to the ethernet link. > > If, however, this remains stable, it would be nice to hear from the > Logitech guys as to what can be done to the wireless (firmware?) on the > Radio to sort it out. If the answer is 'nothing', then at least I know > I need to start looking for another solution such as Airplay speakers. what sort of wifi strength were you getting reported by the RADIO when hooked directly to WIFI? Keep in mind that the wifi antenna of the radio is not nearly as good as the wifi antenna of the bridge you've attached to (or a laptop, etc.). The other issue is not wifi strength but wifi interference from other networks. Use netstumbler or vistumber (google for programs) to find nearby networks. Make sure you use a different channel than the close networks. And even moving the radio a few inches can make a big difference. This said, I have two RADIOS that are WIFI/battery and I use them all over my house and deck with no dropouts, even with FLAC files. My WIFI strength is typically between 60% and 95%, and I'm on very different WIFI channels than my neighbors. So your SPECIFIC radio may have a wifi problem or simiply have a weak signal/interference, however there does not seem to be any general firmware failure of the radio with regard to wifi use. p.s. this is a user-to-user forum. logitech doesn't really read these. But there are official logitech support forums for both the server and the SB hardware players where they do read and answer. So if you want info from logitech, I'd suggest posting over there. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > LMS 7.7.0 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Just a quick further update... Last night I disabled the wireless on the Radio and plugged it via ethernet into a wireless bridge, the idea being to eliminate the Radio's internal wireless as a source of problems. This morning I streamed an internet radio station for over an hour, sync'd with 2 other players, with no issues whatsoever. Clearly it's early days, but this certainly hints that the Radio's own wireless is a problem. Of course doing this rather defeats the purpose of the Radio as it now can't be moved due to the ethernet link. If, however, this remains stable, it would be nice to hear from the Logitech guys as to what can be done to the wireless (firmware?) on the Radio to sort it out. If the answer is 'nothing', then at least I know I need to start looking for another solution such as Airplay speakers. -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
jakeblade;670149 Wrote: > Hi, did you resolve this in the end? I have very similar problems with > my Radio. I'm running 7.5.1 from SSOTS on my NAS, which for my set-up > is a very stable build. > > Have tried all of the normal recommendations, and very reluctant to > change squeezeserver software version, or firmware on the Radio, as > this has always had problems and I end up having to do factory reset on > Radio or backwardating software (back button + power button). Radio > works fine hard-wired on ethernet cable, but since I have the battery > pack it defeats the point of buying it! > > JB Still having problems I'm afraid. I had some initial success by adding a 2nd router (Apple Time Capsule that I had abandoned over a year ago) and connnecting the Radio to that (wireless). This seemed to work better, and I had started to think the issue was between my other (Netgear) router and the Radio. That said, I've recently upgraded to LMS and everything is now unstable. Yesterday I found perl running at near 100% CPU on the server, after which I forced a restart. This morning I woke up to the default alarm on my Boom - a clear indicator that the server still isn't happy. I'll have to look at it this evening to see if I can make any sense of it. As an aside, given the amount of Apple kit I now have at home I'm giving serious consideration to eBaying all of the Slim/Logitech equipment and getting some Airplay-enabled speakers in. I'm sure it will cost, but it's got to be more stable than this! -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;666099 Wrote: > I too am having nothing but trouble with the Radio with recent firmware > releases (whilst 2 Booms and an SB3 on my network work perfectly). > > It's hard to say when the trouble started, but it was certainly within > the last several weeks and I'm guessing since the 7.6.1 update. In my > case the radio will play for a short while - anywhere from a few > minutes to about half an hour, after which it stops and shows no > network connectivity. I've tried different positions, different rooms, > powered vs. battery, etc to no avail (incidentally it reports 93% signal > strength in it's 'usual' position when connected). When this happens > all controls on the player also become unresponsive, so I strongly > suspect the firmware. Hard power off will resolve it briefly, but it > just happens again within 30 minutes. > > I have not changed the position of the radio in over 18 months when I > last moved home. The router is the same, router firmware is the same, > router position is the same, server is the same. All that has changed > is the SB server version and linked player firmware. > > I've also tried the latest - 7.6.2 r9545 - and the same occurs. > > Any thoughts anyone? Can I provide any logging that might help? > > Cheers > > Tom Hi, did you resolve this in the end? I have very similar problems with my Radio. I'm running 7.5.1 from SSOTS on my NAS, which for my set-up is a very stable build. Have tried all of the normal recommendations, and very reluctant to change squeezeserver software version, or firmware on the Radio, as this has always had problems and I end up having to do factory reset on Radio or backwardating software (back button + power button). Radio works fine hard-wired on ethernet cable, but since I have the battery pack it defeats the point of buying it! JB -- jakeblade == Duet, Boom, Radio SSOTS 4.9.1 on QNAP Turbostation Squeezeserver 7.5.1 DacMagic Rotel RA-06 PMC DB1i jakeblade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
and you're sure you don't accidentally have two things using the same IP address. You have one router handing out addresses with DHCP? Or do you have some things set to fixed (static IP), and DHCP also assigns something that IP address? Or you have two routers and you have DHCP turned on on BOTH of the routers? -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
twynne;666099 Wrote: > I too am having nothing but trouble with the Radio with recent firmware > releases (whilst 2 Booms and an SB3 on my network work perfectly). > > It's hard to say when the trouble started, but it was certainly within > the last several weeks and I'm guessing since the 7.6.1 update. In my > case the radio will play for a short while - anywhere from a few > minutes to about half an hour, after which it stops and shows no > network connectivity. I've tried different positions, different rooms, > powered vs. battery, etc to no avail (incidentally it reports 93% signal > strength in it's 'usual' position when connected). When this happens > all controls on the player also become unresponsive, so I strongly > suspect the firmware. Hard power off will resolve it briefly, but it > just happens again within 30 minutes. > > I have not changed the position of the radio in over 18 months when I > last moved home. The router is the same, router firmware is the same, > router position is the same, server is the same. All that has changed > is the SB server version and linked player firmware. > > I've also tried the latest - 7.6.2 r9545 - and the same occurs. > > Any thoughts anyone? Can I provide any logging that might help? > > Cheers > > Tom definitely set the server log to "debug" and look at the output after these failures. An odd problem and not a general problem with the firmware and the RADIO. At least I can report that I use two different RADIOS at two different locations (one is vortexbox server and one is win7(64) server. Both are SbS 7.6.2 (but 7.6.1 was working fine too). The firmware on both radios is: 7.6.2-r9545. Both radios are connected via WIFI. not sure, but this problem sounds more like wifi interference. Even if nothing has changed about your setup, what about your neighbors? New N router turned on high power? New microwave next door, etc. Use netstumbler or vistumbler to see what nearby WIFI networks are being used and what channels they are using. Be sure to use a channel that is far away from nearby wifi channels. also, not sure if you mentioned, but make sure you have SSID turned to display in your network. Having SSID hidden can sometimes cause issues (and is zero security in any case, as you would notice from netstumbler or vistumbler program, which sees everything, even if SSID is turned to not display). -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
I too am having nothing but trouble with the Radio with recent firmware releases (whilst 2 Booms and an SB3 on my network work perfectly). It's hard to say when the trouble started, but it was certainly within the last several weeks and I'm guessing since the 7.6.1 update. In my case the radio will play for a short while - anywhere from a few minutes to about half an hour, after which it stops and shows no network connectivity. I've tried different positions, different rooms, powered vs. battery, etc to no avail (incidentally it reports 93% signal strength in it's 'usual' position when connected). When this happens all controls on the player also become unresponsive, so I strongly suspect the firmware. Hard power off will resolve it briefly, but it just happens again within 30 minutes. I have not changed the position of the radio in over 18 months when I last moved home. The router is the same, router firmware is the same, router position is the same, server is the same. All that has changed is the SB server version and linked player firmware. I've also tried the latest - 7.6.2 r9545 - and the same occurs. Any thoughts anyone? Can I provide any logging that might help? Cheers Tom -- twynne 1 SB Touch, 2 x Booms, 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Radio twynne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
garym;665584 Wrote: > huh? 7.6.0 was probably one of the most problem-ridden releases. 7.6.1 > solved most of those problems and I found it reasonably stable. I moved > to 7.6.2 and since then all has been very stable, including my wifi > connected RADIOS. If you read the problem descriptions in the post you refer to it becomes obvious that those are not related to any changes made between 7.6.0 and 7.6.1, there's something else going on. -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Paularios;664723 Wrote: > The version 7.6.1r6482 is probably the worst ever made by Logitech for > the Squeeze box. I don't understand why, in the world, those software > engineers at Logitech were thinking they were doing, when they chose to > mess up with version 7.6.0 that was working just fine and was stable. huh? 7.6.0 was probably one of the most problem-ridden releases. 7.6.1 solved most of those problems and I found it reasonably stable. I moved to 7.6.2 and since then all has been very stable, including my wifi connected RADIOS. p.s. One can always "go back" to prior software and prior firmware. Just install the version you wanted, connect to players to the SbS once running and the firmware will be rolled back. Very simple. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.2 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
I have to agree with Cliff and Paularios - the Radio has gone from being an excellent unit to a rather annoying one over the course of the past year. I have three SqueezeDevices, and curiously, only the one obtained since Logitech moved onto the scene is by now a clunker - the Boom and the SB3 are rock solid. So I may not be able to see anyone's Facebook news feed on either of them, but my Radio is not a steady or dependable network player anymore and that's a real drag. I've done my share of Googling my particular issues; the wifi/wlan client is utterly stupid in terms of connecting/reconnecting e.g. after having shut the wireless down during the night, but I figure that at some point, the firmware team will find this out, too, and do something about it. And to all the truly helpful participants in various forums: I have tried your advice on wifi tweaks, to no avail. By now, I just won't bother - there are some ten other wireless devices in the house that never has problems connecting. The Radio at its' current state is a serious disappointment and, at least for the time being, I have put my enthusiastic recommendation of Logitech Squeezeboxes on hold. -- knutb knutb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
The version 7.6.1r6482 is probably the worst ever made by Logitech for the Squeeze box. I don't understand why, in the world, those software engineers at Logitech were thinking they were doing, when they chose to mess up with version 7.6.0 that was working just fine and was stable. The Home Menu in V.7.6.1r6482 is practically empty; only 3 choices of action are available: "Help", "Restore Defaults" and "Restore Hidden Menu Items". Unlike in V.7.6.0, one cannot customize his/her own Home menu by selecting what features he/she want to have in the Home Menu. I don't want to remove this version and reinstall V.7.6.0 because I will lose all my customized favorites like I did when I uninstalled it a few months ago. I don't see the usefulness of any of the features in the "Volume Adjustment" menu, because none of them seems to bring any individual change to the audio, when selected. This is a bad software. I am extremely disappointed. -- Paularios Paularios's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
You can downgrade your player via SBS server to any previous version you wish. All previous SBS versions are here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/ Install SBS, connect player to SBS, downgrade firmware, uninstall SBS (if not needed). But, if you downgrade the firmware and connect to MySB.com your player will be regularly prompted to update to the MySB version level. You can dismiss these prompts, but they do get annoying. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
Thanks to Joe and sepb for their feedback. Unfortunately I received (and installed) 2 updates, which were a few days apart. Both had these new problems, so I can't go back now - from what I understand. My main issue is that each update should improve the software, not degrade it seriously. So while I understand there is the option to go back a version, it really shouldn't be necessary. I guess I'll have to live with it for now and hope a new update comes along that fixes it all. Thanks Cliff -- maven12 maven12's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
maven12;652849 Wrote: > I've had my SB Radio for a couple of years now. After many months of > very poor software, I finally got a release (I think it was 7.6.0) > which was just great and reliable. > > Now this new 7.6.1 r9482 release has been downloaded and installed and > the SB Radio has gone all weird again. > > Specifically, it > 1) Shifts my home menu order around once I have used the alarm and > turned it off (after it has triggered) > 2) On some days, it now turns on by itself. So, when I leave int eh > morning, the SB Radio is off with only the clock showing. When I > return, it is on and sitting on the last radio station selected, but in > the stop position i.e. the station isn't playing > 3) It now, occasionally prevents me from selecting a preset channel. If > I select a channel, it goes to it but won't start buffering > > If I turn off the unit completely and reboot, it's all back again to > the correct menu item sequence and everything works again - till the > next alarm goes off. > > This is SO annoying since the previous releases were so stable. What on > earth did Logitech do to the software?? > > Any thoughts on how to fix this? > > Many thanks > Cliff So hold the rew button while you power on the radio ( from all the way off) let go of the rew button as soon as you see the Logiterch logo and you will be back to your previous version as long as you didnt update to the latest more than once. If you get an update reqest just hold the back button until the request disappears. -- bitstopjoe Joe Sica bitstopjoe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.6.1 r9482 has messed up my SB Radio
maven12;652849 Wrote: > 2) On some days, it now turns on by itself. So, when I leave int eh > morning, the SB Radio is off with only the clock showing. When I > return, it is on and sitting on the last radio station selected, but in > the stop position i.e. the station isn't playing Strange: for many people, r9482 cured this problem that was introduced by the previous firmware release (r9458, I think). -- sebp 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89900 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
