[RBW] Re: Got my new Cheviot

2015-03-31 Thread grrlyrida
That's where my Riv is too. Right next to my bed.  

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-31 Thread Hoffsta
I've been riding a B-17 for about ten years and have a Gyes Flyer 
knock-off. I recently tried a Cambium C15 for a few days. It has nice shock 
absorbing qualities but I didn't care for the texture at all. As mentioned 
above, I felt much more chafing action as it grabbed onto my shorts. I also 
found it much more difficult to reposition myself as I've grown accustomed 
to just sliding along smooth leather, the C15 required me to stand up and 
sit back down. I much prefer a smooth leather saddle. In the end, I 
returned the Cambium demo and purchased a Selle Anatomica and it is my new 
favorite saddle ever.

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[RBW] Re: B-Stone on CL

2015-03-31 Thread Joe Bernard
250 is steep, but I think he'll find a buyer for 150. Sure, it's a heavy 
old bike-boom 10-speed with steel parts, but there's a small group of folks 
out there who have a touch of fondest for these things, and this one is in 
very nice shape with a pretty color. 

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:13:52 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I think everything you need to know is included in the phrase:

 Guaranteed World Finest Bicycle Precision Mechanism


 But seriously,1970s bike-boom bikes like that were about $100 new, and 
 should depreciate from there.  They are bicycles, and as such worthy of 
 being ridden.  They never were collectors items, and as such are not worthy 
 of increasing in value.  In the 80s when you needed a beater for college, 
 you'd pick up one of those for $20 at a garage sale and not cry when it got 
 stolen. In the 90s when they rolled in as a trade in, you'd put straight 
 bars and new tires and cables on them, and sell them for $80.  Now, no 
 mechanics even remember cottered cranks, much less possess the tools to get 
 them off, much less possess the cotters to put them back on.  

 That one is a really really nice color and the chromed tips are pretty, 
 but if I owned that bike, I'd give it away.  If Grant saw it locked to a 
 parking meter, he might take photos of it and write interesting comments 
 about manufacturing details of the era, but he would have no interest in 
 owning it, possessing it, or riding it, much less giving any of his money 
 for it.  The 1970s were a miraculous time in the history of cycling, that 
 laid the groundwork for a lot of things that happened afterwards, but the 
 cheapest bikes from the 1970s deserve to be collected about as much as the 
 cheapest cars from the 1970s do.  
  

 On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:47:11 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:

 Hah. I have seen these before with Bridgestone written all over them. I 
 assumed they were B-stones. If someone has at the ready the best place to 
 learn what I apparently don't know, please send it my way.

 So is this guy taking a trip to Riv HQ for nothing? 

 Feeling sheepish in beautiful Redding, Ca,
 Chris



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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

2015-03-31 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Saturday I drove down from CT to Frederick, MD for the DC Randonneurs Urbana 
200k. I finally got to meet Nick Bull, a frequent poster on these groups, and 
lots of other great people. I had registered for the 200km Pastries and Coffe 
brevet on March 7, but snow forced a rescheduling that I couldn't make. This 
brevetwas rescheduled from the week before from YET ANOTHER! snowstorm. It had 
been 70+ degrees in the area on Thursday but temps were freezing or below at 
the 7:00am start. I don't know if they ever got much higher than 40. Mike Wali, 
one of the ride volunteers was at the Waffle House start to let prepare 
everyone for the 9400 feet of climbing that awaited us. Although this would be 
number 11 toward my first R-12, I was nervous because my last two 200k rides 
were super flat and the last one was on Feb. 8. around 40 riders started into 
the stiff headwind that stayed with us all the way to the halfway point at 
State Line, PA. I was dressed perfectly for a change. I am normally drenched in 
sweat no matter how cold it is but I intentionally started out underdressed and 
never got sweaty until the tough climb of Catoctin Mt. We had a tailwind pretty 
much the entire second half of the ride. I experimented with my nutrition and 
it was a success. No bonks at all. I finished squarely in the middle of the 
pack at 11hours, 29 minutes, and I felt surprisingly great for this early in 
the season. I think it bodes well for my PBP aspirations. I'm going down to 
Cranbury, NJ for their 200k on Saturday, then to good ol' Kansas City (crazy 
little women!) for a 300 k the following Saturday. Good times but I would give 
anything for 70 degree weather!

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 03/30/2015 04:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he 
expertly ducked Steve's punch!  Bravo.


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had
to do was ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain
bludgeoned. Grin.



Ducked?   Ha!  Morelike, demonstrated the truth of what I said.

We now know head trauma is cumulative.  It's one thing with a pristine, 
undamaged brain; it's quite another to add further injury.   How far is 
it from bludgeoned brain to vegetative state?




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[RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
I had never heard of Goatheads before I borrowed a nephew's bike in Utah late 
last century...I learned!

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Bars, stem, post - Brooks B17 - Tubus Cosmo - SON Classic with Supernova E3 front and rear lights

2015-03-31 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Spring cleaning. Paypal preferred, US sales only. Shipping based on where 
you're at and how you want it. I usually use USPS.

Brooks B17 Champion Special Honey: Installed, never ridden, as new. - $125

Tubus Cosmo silver rear rack: Excellent condition, installed, not used. $140

Schmidt SON dyno hub and Supernova E3 headlight and taillight combo. $350
I think this is the Classic model. 36h hub. No skewer. Head has one light 
and on/off button, tail has three lights.
Set worked great together, although I have VERY little experience with 
lighting to gauge performance. 

Nitto Noodle #1 46 wide Clean, heat treated sticker marred a little from 
interrupter levers. Otherwise extremely clean. $60

Nitto Noodle #2 46 wide Tape residue but fine shape. Clamp area has small 
scratches from install. Used about 100 miles. $50

Nitto Dirt Drop stem: Excellent condition. 26.0 80 length $50

Nitto S65 seatpost: 27.2 Zig Zag scratches from insertion on back. Small 
rub from seat bag strap. Still pretty. $50

PHOTOS HERE 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/sets/72157621914514982/

Contact:  hbclick at yahoo

Thanks!
Brad


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Re: [RBW] FS: Atlantis in Utah for $1,700

2015-03-31 Thread James Warren
Do Rivs with black seatposts remind anyone else of people in turtlenecks when 
it's not that cold out?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2015, at 6:26 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 This was posted over on the BOB list:
 
 I'm not sure whether the price is good or not, but it sure is pretty and 
 nicely spec'd. Not mine  no association, etc. 
 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=678ad=34041131cat=409lpid=3;
 
 Crummy photo  no size listed.  Build sounds pretty standard Rivendell.  My 
 guess is 58 cm judging by the HT  wheels (mine is a 58).  
 
 dougP
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Re: [RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread Joe Bernard
Modine is a cyclist. It could be him. 

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

 This particular race and video were done on January 20th, 1979 for a local 
 TV station which broadcast it in the Bay Area and then it went syndicated 
 across the nation, exposing America to Klunking.   

 I love this video and have watched it many times, along with the 
 documentary Klunkerz.   

 I dare anyone to go watch some clips from VisionQuest or Gross Anatomy on 
 Youtube and then tell me the blond stoner at 50 seconds in is not a young 
 Matthew Modine before he became famous.   I know it's not him but the 
 physical resemblance and speech pattern similarities are remarkable.  



 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 4:25:08 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a 
 smoking coaster hub, though.

 Notice too the no retention pedals and ride in what you're wearing 
 clothing.

 I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really 
 started 10 or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

 Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

 1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
 2) dig hair!
 3) dig the pre-boscos
 4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
 5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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Re: [RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
I agree with Minh in a general way, but I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss
the collectable quality of the better Rivendell stock models; after all,
look at what happens to RB-1s and XOs.

The absolutely first criterion for Riv bike quality is the handling, and
IME, having owned 5 -- tho' not a QB -- they are better in this regard, for
my taste at least, than most of the many other bikes I've ridden. I expect
that in 10 or 20 years, there'll be a strong market in used Rivs of all
types.

That said, I'd ignore provenance, except in a desultory way, and ride the
new bike! Hell, I'd ignore paint and cleanliness and ride the damn' bike!

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 my QB only has a sticker for a SN.

 IMHO, a QB (or a Rivendell in general) is not a Herse, and a QB was always
 meant as an affordable bike so i don't see this as collectible.  Just my
 opinion, i'd price this like all the other QBs that have floated through
 the list and not worry too much about the provenance.


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Re: [RBW] How was your weekend ride?

2015-03-31 Thread Jim Bronson
I rode a 400k that I also organized, with two fellow randonneurs.  There
was quite a lot of hill climbing early and once we got in a flatter part of
the route, the wind kicked up to a ferocious gale.  Later after dark the
wind died down some but even so we did not make it to the penultimate
control by midnight so there was nothing open.  It was then I remembered
that I stashed a water bottle in my Carradice earlier and was thankful for
my foresight, however unintended.  We made it back to the start at 2:46 am
for a total time of 20:46.

Here is the route:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/7177029

I didn't take any pics but my friend and fellow Rivendell custom owner did
so let me see if I can find some of those :)
On Mar 29, 2015 10:07 PM, JohnS sharp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Trying to instigate a discussion on everyone's weekend ride. I'll start.
 My wife and I got out for a short ride of about 7 miles on Saturday
 . It was the first ride of the season for Suzanne so we didn't plan to go
 to far. The cold stiff wind and and overcast sky didn't help either. We
 have to start training for the NYC 5 Boro tour on May 3rd. We'll be doing
 that with your 12 year old son and a friend of ours. My son will be riding
 our '80's Rodriguez tandem with me. Next year he'll be able to ride on his
 own.

 On Sunday I got out by myself for a 35 mile. The wind wasn't nearly as
 bad and the sun was shining which helped a lot. I was using the low gear
 for about 10% of the ride, more than I'll think I'll be using later in the
 season. It did get me up all but one really tough hill so it definitely is
 helping. I was pretty tired till I got home. The picture shows my small
 Sackville sack in the Wald basket. All my gear was in there. The bike is
 leaning against an old corn crib, shed. You may also notice the shoots near
 the front wheel, signs of spring. Thank goodness! We're experiencing a
 prolonged winter here in PA.

 How was your ride?
 JohnS

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[RBW] Re: FS: Atlantis in Utah for $1,700

2015-03-31 Thread dougP
Update / correction:  it's a 61cm.  Someone else read the ad more carefully 
 pointed this out.  

Jim: yea, somehow it just seems the seatpost  stem should match, at least 
roughly.  Otherwise you get that what have I got handy that I can use? 
look.  The guy quotes a lot of good stuff but I can't see much in that 
photo.  

dougP

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:26:16 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote:

 This was posted over on the BOB list:

 I'm not sure whether the price is good or not, but it sure is pretty and 
 nicely spec'd. Not mine  no association, etc. 
 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=678ad=34041131cat=409lpid=3; 
 http://www.ksl.com/?nid=678ad=34041131cat=409lpid=3

 Crummy photo  no size listed.  Build sounds pretty standard Rivendell.  
 My guess is 58 cm judging by the HT  wheels (mine is a 58).  

 dougP


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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-31 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Supple tires make a difference, but I'm primarily a commuter averaging 100 
to 150 miles a week and am skeptical they would be a good choice for my 
application.  I HATE fixing flats on cold dark mornings at 5 AM and really 
appreciated getting just a hair under 10,000 miles out of my Marathon 
Supremes.  However, as I near retirement my tastes could change so please 
keep us updated on the flat stats.

Matt

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:12:28 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan 
 Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden 
 voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass 
 tires.  Holy cow!  I had no idea what I've been missing!  I now understand 
 the concept of supple.  It was like riding on a cloud... a very smooth, 
 fast and responsive cloud.  My most sincere thanks to everyone who 
 recommended Compass tires and suggested the Barlow Pass Extralights over 
 the Stampede Pass.  I'm sure I would have been thrilled with the Stampedes 
 as well but the extra size gives me a little more confidence that my riding 
 might be a little more flat-free.  I am amazed at the speed and feel of the 
 bike now.  My hat's off to everyone at Compass.  Sam has been reborn beyond 
 the go-fastish machine I was hoping for from this purchase.  Now onward 
 to an Albastache cockpit.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/
 Thanks everyone!  

 John

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and 
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on 
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The 
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for 
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my 
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I 
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for 
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32 
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward 
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after 
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme 
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is 
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with 
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my 
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a blissful, 
 light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

 Thanks,
 John





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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread Robert Barr
To respond to Drew's question, I did get my item. It took a long time, and
there were several emails, but I got my item, and it was as promised. In
fairness, after I got my first note from Peter telling me there had been a
shipping error, I told him not to worry - the item was for bike I was going
to build until later. If I had been building up a bike at the time and
needing the crank to finish, I would have been more frustrated. Later when
it became clear that my experience wasn't unique, I held off on sending a
note to Jim because it seemed that items were being shipped, albeit very
slowly. That may have been a mistake on my part, but I have heard
enough unbelievable stories from students that ended up being true, that I
tend to be very careful. Bob

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I saw a Bosco Bullmoose for $80, I was ready to jump on it.  Such a
 deal!  Then I saw who the seller was, and decided not to jump.  Maybe I
 should have looked out for the group the way I looked out for myself.  I
 promise I will next time.

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I purchased a seatpost from him in December. There was no communication
 for about a month, then I emailed a few times. He said it must have been
 lost, but that he had another one that he would send, and that came about a
 week later IIRC.

 So I can say that he delivered what I bought, and AAFAIK he delivered to
 everyone else, but it did take approximately a month with poor
 communication.


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:

 Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-6, drew beckmeyer wrote:


 To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to
 finally get your items or your money back?

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Re: [RBW] Help a so-so mechanic with rear derailed issues

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
It sounds as if you are turning the adjuster the wrong way. Perhaps back it
off, ensuring that the small cog stop screw is properly adjusted.

I find it hard to imagine how a friction setup will cause problems, unless
the cable is too tight, or unless there is something preventing the cable
from relaxing fully.

One remedy: toss the DA shifters and install Silvers. Absolutely the best
I've used, including Retrofriction and PowerRatchets, and IME, better for
frictioning 9 by bar end even than by down tubers. On my Fargo, with a
bastard 13-27 9, composed of orphan cogs and 9 sp spacers, the Silver BES's
shift precisely all up and down the cassette.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:22 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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 Here's the deal: I've adjusted my derailers often but I can't get the rear
 shifting right on my Hilsen. I have DuraAce bar ends which I've been using
 in friction mode for about a year and a half. I have a brand new rear
 cassette, 9-speed, brand new chain and chain rings. I use Sheldon's method
 when setting things up. I shift to the highest gear (when the cable is
 loosest) with the cable disconnected. I pull the cable until it is just
 snug, then tighten the bolt. I leave about 1 available turn on each barrel
 adjuster (there are two for the rear cable) to loosen the cable if need be,
 which leaves the much more room for the barrel adjusters to tighten it. I
 can't seem to get the shifting to stay still in the lowest 3 gears. It
 skips back and forth. It will be ok if there's not too much of a load on
 the pedals but it wants to wander when I'm climbing. This is the case in
 all three chainrings. What gives?!? I keep tightening the barrel adjusters
 1/2 turn at a time and can't seem to get it right. I loosen and that's no
 help either. When I go to the very lowest gear (requiring the most cable
 tension) it stays in place fine. So what do you all think, is the cable too
 tight or too loose?

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

2015-03-31 Thread dougP
As a protest, I'm giving up the whole birthday thing.

Birthdays are highly over-rated as a reason to celebrate.  After the first 
3 or 4 dozen, eh? who needs 'em?

dougP

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:25:18 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

 Chris,

 My birthday recently came and went. No email. I called up to snag a Clem 
 and found out the birthday email discount is gone like the wind.

 As a protest, I'm giving up the whole birthday thing.

 Edwin

 On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:09:21 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:

 Bill,

 I'll put it this way, my birthday discount from Riv will be applied to a 
 stem shifter pod for my Hilsen.  Seem to be just right for my quirks.  Love 
 'em.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] FS: Atlantis in Utah for $1,700

2015-03-31 Thread dougP
This was posted over on the BOB list:

I'm not sure whether the price is good or not, but it sure is pretty and 
nicely spec'd. Not mine  no association, etc. 
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=678ad=34041131cat=409lpid=3; 
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=678ad=34041131cat=409lpid=3

Crummy photo  no size listed.  Build sounds pretty standard Rivendell.  My 
guess is 58 cm judging by the HT  wheels (mine is a 58).  

dougP

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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-31 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I am so torn on these tires.  I'm currently riding 40mm Duremes and I'm 
very unhappy with them.  They are sluggish and when I make a sharp turn, 
which I do quite often, the outside lugs feel squirmy and it's very 
unsettling.  On the other hand, I worry about flats and overall durability 
of the Barlow Pass tires.  I look forward to hearing more about your 
experience with them. 




On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:12:28 PM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:

 After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan 
 Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden 
 voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass 
 tires.  Holy cow!  I had no idea what I've been missing!  I now understand 
 the concept of supple.  It was like riding on a cloud... a very smooth, 
 fast and responsive cloud.  My most sincere thanks to everyone who 
 recommended Compass tires and suggested the Barlow Pass Extralights over 
 the Stampede Pass.  I'm sure I would have been thrilled with the Stampedes 
 as well but the extra size gives me a little more confidence that my riding 
 might be a little more flat-free.  I am amazed at the speed and feel of the 
 bike now.  My hat's off to everyone at Compass.  Sam has been reborn beyond 
 the go-fastish machine I was hoping for from this purchase.  Now onward 
 to an Albastache cockpit.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/
 Thanks everyone!  

 John

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and 
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on 
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The 
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for 
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my 
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I 
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for 
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32 
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward 
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after 
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme 
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is 
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with 
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my 
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a blissful, 
 light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

 Thanks,
 John





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Re: [RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for the reference; I'll look up Klunkerz. Good stuff.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:59 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 This particular race and video were done on January 20th, 1979 for a local
 TV station which broadcast it in the Bay Area and then it went syndicated
 across the nation, exposing America to Klunking.

 I love this video and have watched it many times, along with the
 documentary Klunkerz.

 I dare anyone to go watch some clips from VisionQuest or Gross Anatomy on
 Youtube and then tell me the blond stoner at 50 seconds in is not a young
 Matthew Modine before he became famous.   I know it's not him but the
 physical resemblance and speech pattern similarities are remarkable.



 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 4:25:08 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a
 smoking coaster hub, though.

 Notice too the no retention pedals and ride in what you're wearing
 clothing.

 I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really
 started 10 or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

 Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

 1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
 2) dig hair!
 3) dig the pre-boscos
 4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
 5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-31 Thread Surlyprof
After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan 
Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden 
voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass 
tires.  Holy cow!  I had no idea what I've been missing!  I now understand 
the concept of supple.  It was like riding on a cloud... a very smooth, 
fast and responsive cloud.  My most sincere thanks to everyone who 
recommended Compass tires and suggested the Barlow Pass Extralights over 
the Stampede Pass.  I'm sure I would have been thrilled with the Stampedes 
as well but the extra size gives me a little more confidence that my riding 
might be a little more flat-free.  I am amazed at the speed and feel of the 
bike now.  My hat's off to everyone at Compass.  Sam has been reborn beyond 
the go-fastish machine I was hoping for from this purchase.  Now onward 
to an Albastache cockpit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/
Thanks everyone!  

John

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and 
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on 
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The 
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for 
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my 
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I 
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for 
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32 
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward 
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after 
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme 
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is 
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with 
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my 
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a blissful, 
 light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

 Thanks,
 John





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Re: [RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Charley Kelley's new book Fat Tyre Fyer is an incredible first-person 
account of the evolution of the mountain bike and it has a ton of period 
photos of Klunkers and MTB's.   RBW sells it if anyone wants to check it 
out.  It's a huge, oversized book of very high quality.  



On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 7:57:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Thanks for the reference; I'll look up Klunkerz. Good stuff.

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:59 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote:

 This particular race and video were done on January 20th, 1979 for a 
 local TV station which broadcast it in the Bay Area and then it went 
 syndicated across the nation, exposing America to Klunking.   

 I love this video and have watched it many times, along with the 
 documentary Klunkerz.   

 I dare anyone to go watch some clips from VisionQuest or Gross Anatomy on 
 Youtube and then tell me the blond stoner at 50 seconds in is not a young 
 Matthew Modine before he became famous.   I know it's not him but the 
 physical resemblance and speech pattern similarities are remarkable.  



 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 4:25:08 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a 
 smoking coaster hub, though.

 Notice too the no retention pedals and ride in what you're wearing 
 clothing.

 I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really 
 started 10 or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

 Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

 1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
 2) dig hair!
 3) dig the pre-boscos
 4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
 5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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[RBW] Re: How was your weekend ride?

2015-03-31 Thread Surlyprof
Beginning to feel almost relieved I missed that ride with you this weekend, 
David.  Not sure I could have kept up.  Would have had fun trying though!  
Next time.

John 
(actually sorry to have missed the ride)

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:43:46 AM UTC-7, DS wrote:

 Great idea! And nice QB. 

 I almost never do group rides (20+ people), but a fellow RBW-er invited me 
 to a Grizzly Peak Cyclists ride in the Oakland/Berkeley/Orinda hills area, 
 ~35 miles with 2700 feet of climbing. I do these routes and climbs all the 
 time by myself, and generally consider myself a slow, meandering cyclists 
 that is out for the sake of riding, but something came over me and I sped 
 to the front of the pack on my Gunnar Sport (almost took my new Sam) and 
 stayed there the whole ride. Felt pretty good. I was 3rd out of 25 people 
 or so the whole time. I like that I now know that I can push myself outside 
 of my 11-12mph comfort zone into a 14-15 mph one and not feel totally 
 ragged after, I still had plenty of energy after. Though maybe the ride up 
 Tunnel on my quickbeam 2 days  prior helped warm me up.

 Two observations from my weekend ride:
 1. I love the Oakland / Berkeley hills. I've lived here 4 years and I 
 still can't believe such amazing greenspace and parks that are within urban 
 city limits. All my climbing up Tunnel road has definitely made me a 
 stronger rider. 
 2. After getting to top of the largest and longest climb we stopped for a 
 break and a handful of people were looking at my bike (which had grand bois 
 cypres 700 x 33 tires) commenting about how they'd love a steel bike with 
 28mm tires for a commuter bike, which just seemed weird to me since I was 
 on such a bike with even wider tires and it clearly was not a commuter 
 bike. Not to mention I had been there waiting for 5 minutes or more before 
 that group even showed up. I spend so much time on this thread and with 
 other RWB-ers that I forget how much we stand out with our baggy clothes, 
 steel bikes, wide tires, racks, and bags. Everyone was really cool about it 
 of course, and no ill feelings either way.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm 89.999% sure these are only available from Australia.  But it really is 
a non-issue nowadays.  She's responsive to e-mail if you have any questions 
and shipping was fast and cheap for me; On my 2nd purchase I bought four 
on sale and shipping was free.  For the past couple years I've been using 
the Tourer model. Starting tomorrow I'm going to try the Explorer in 
preparation for a hilly metric century I'm doing this weekend (Party ay 
Pardee).  The Explorer has a bit more coverage and straps that attach to 
your helmet straps to keep the Legionnaires flap from lifting in the 
breeze.  The full size baseball hat brim on all models is out of this world 
for sheilding your eyes and the front of your face from the sun and is a 
great platform for my particular rear view mirror.

Give it a try.   I do not think you can go wrong.  The only issue is it 
does look kinda goofy.  But wearing it you can't tell so that's the other 
peoples problem. I will say it definitely protects you from the sun, 
definitely keeps you cooler, and does not interfere with the impact 
protectiion of the helmet. 

Matt 

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 11:22:53 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 Are Treadley helmet hats available in the US, or do I have to send to 
 Australia? 

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  http://www.treadley.com.au/ 
  
  This little cottage industry was developed by a concerned mother in 
  Australia.  They can look a bit goofy but work fantastic.  If I remember 
  correctly she had a big sale right around Easter last year. 
  
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[RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-31 Thread Surlyprof

Since these are on a second set of wheels, I will be swapping them when I 
commute.  I agree that getting a flat at 6am while racing to catch a train 
would be bad since I start class at 8am.  My commute is along often dark 
gravel paths and city streets.  For that, I will be using the 36h Mavic 
A719s with Schwalbe Mondial 40s.  I've gotten 1000s of miles on previous 
Marathons.  I may always turn to Schwalbe for commuting needs.  This new 
set up has been the dream*... to own a Hillborne with a bombproof (albeit 
slower) set of wheels and tires for commuting and trails and a light, 
nimble set for weekends and summers.

* The real dream is a lightweight Hilson or Rodeo (or both) and a beefed up 
Hunq but that's a bit out of the range of a professor's salary in the bay 
area.  For now, with two sets of wheels, the Sam is proving to be the 
perfect bike.  I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever ride my SOMA mtb again.

John 

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:

 Supple tires make a difference, but I'm primarily a commuter averaging 100 
 to 150 miles a week and am skeptical they would be a good choice for my 
 application.  I HATE fixing flats on cold dark mornings at 5 AM and really 
 appreciated getting just a hair under 10,000 miles out of my Marathon 
 Supremes.  However, as I near retirement my tastes could change so please 
 keep us updated on the flat stats.

 Matt

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:12:28 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan 
 Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden 
 voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass 
 tires.  Holy cow!  I had no idea what I've been missing!  I now understand 
 the concept of supple.  It was like riding on a cloud... a very smooth, 
 fast and responsive cloud.  My most sincere thanks to everyone who 
 recommended Compass tires and suggested the Barlow Pass Extralights over 
 the Stampede Pass.  I'm sure I would have been thrilled with the Stampedes 
 as well but the extra size gives me a little more confidence that my riding 
 might be a little more flat-free.  I am amazed at the speed and feel of the 
 bike now.  My hat's off to everyone at Compass.  Sam has been reborn beyond 
 the go-fastish machine I was hoping for from this purchase.  Now onward 
 to an Albastache cockpit.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/
 Thanks everyone!  

 John

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and 
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on 
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The 
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for 
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my 
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I 
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for 
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32 
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward 
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after 
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme 
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is 
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with 
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my 
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a 
 blissful, light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

 Thanks,
 John





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[RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-03-31 Thread Philip Williamson
To be fair, used QB prices are about what people paid new. $1100 to $1700 
recently, for a $1400-new bicycle but I only pay attention to ones about my 
size.

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Beausage Reminder

2015-03-31 Thread dougP
That Hunq has some pretty aggressive looking tires too that help with the 
badass image.  

dougP

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:10:36 PM UTC-7, Mathew Greiner wrote:

 No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front rack and 
 a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter too often 
 and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the porter rack is 
 so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of porter racks 
 feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise excellent and the 
 maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, and these things must 
 be questioned. 
 Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the whole 
 thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. So why 
 is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same rack. The 
 same Cap'n Hook net.
 One cheap beat up basket.
 Time to order a Wald.


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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Personally,  I do not see how anyone can disagree with Steve.   Maybe his 
delivery is harsh but the message true.  Bangs on the head are cumulative 
and the long term results have been proven.  If I had a bludgeoned brain I 
would be taking measures to protect it.  I'm not saying helmets are perfect 
or the only answer, but if you need further proof just look at what's going 
on in the NFL.   As inferior as helmets may be, I do not see anyone 
choosing to play in the NFL without a helmet   I do not like wearing 
helmets either, and for me, someone who doesn't have a post-bludgeoned 
brain, I probably stand a better chance of getting melanoma than a brain 
trauma riding a bike.  That's why I wear a Treadley helmet hat!  It allows 
me to continue to wear a helmet to help protect me from potential brain 
trauma and also helps protect me from the sun ...without all the chemicals 
in suntan lotion..  But hey ... if I ate Deacon's recommended Paleo diet 
(or whatever variance it may be) I wouldn't have to worry about melanoma or 
getting run over by a car because that diet alone would kill me first.

Deacon,  I mean no harm to you personally.   But you put this stuff out 
there, and you are free to speak and do as you wish, but we are also 
entitled to our opinions based on our own personal knowledge and 
experience.  I don't think Christ's healing balm has anything to do with 
Steve opinion, or mine for that matter.  

Your brother in Christ,

Matt



On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:16:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
  Dear Steve, 
  
  I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes 
  you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you 
  ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy 
  to explain why I ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not 
  the real issue here. I wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's 
  healing balm and that God may startle you with joy. 

 Do what you like.  I said what *I* would do.  I would not do what you 
 do, for the reason I stated.  I'm not angry, I just think you are being 
 very foolish (or, as they say in the vernacular, being an idiot). 

 It is now well known head trauma is cumulative, and you have on numerous 
 occasions made it very well known around here that you are already 
 suffering the effects of multiple head traumas.   You may be willing to 
 risk more; as I said, if it were me, I would not. 

 As for the rest of you, by all means wear or don't wear whatever you 
 like.  I truly do not care, and was not speaking about you. 




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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Montclair BobbyB
*It is now well known grouchiness is cumulative, and you have on numerous *



*occasions made it very well known around here that you are 
already suffering the effects of multiple outbursts.   You may be willing 
to risk more; if it were me, I would not. *
Fear not, Steve... I have the perfect helmet for YOU, my friend...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wSTMb0qkseY/VRtW7CUu9EI/E8g/A6M7l4nt8JM/s1600/smileyfacehelmet.jpg
In all sincerity, Peace to you, Steve.

And God bless you, Deacon Patrick.

Bobby



On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:16:10 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
  Dear Steve, 
  
  I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes 
  you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you 
  ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy 
  to explain why I ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not 
  the real issue here. I wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's 
  healing balm and that God may startle you with joy. 

 Do what you like.  I said what *I* would do.  I would not do what you 
 do, for the reason I stated.  I'm not angry, I just think you are being 
 very foolish (or, as they say in the vernacular, being an idiot). 

 It is now well known head trauma is cumulative, and you have on numerous 
 occasions made it very well known around here that you are already 
 suffering the effects of multiple head traumas.   You may be willing to 
 risk more; as I said, if it were me, I would not. 

 As for the rest of you, by all means wear or don't wear whatever you 
 like.  I truly do not care, and was not speaking about you. 




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Re: [RBW] Re: Go fast-ish tires on the Hillborne

2015-03-31 Thread Joe Broach
Matt,

I think the only way to know for sure is to try. Luckily, supple tires have
great re-sale value on the list. I planned to take off the fragile GB
Cypres 700x32s once the rains hit last year...they're still on. I've had
zero punctures (one pothole pinch flat) in 9 months of my 10 miles a day
commute plus a few fun rides.

Best,
joe broach
pdx or

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:36 PM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Supple tires make a difference, but I'm primarily a commuter averaging 100
 to 150 miles a week and am skeptical they would be a good choice for my
 application.  I HATE fixing flats on cold dark mornings at 5 AM and really
 appreciated getting just a hair under 10,000 miles out of my Marathon
 Supremes.  However, as I near retirement my tastes could change so please
 keep us updated on the flat stats.

 Matt


 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:12:28 PM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 After carefully considering everyone's great feedback and rereading Jan
 Heine's articles on tire size and pressure, I finally got to take my maiden
 voyage on the Synergy wheels and brand, spankin' new Compass Barlow Pass
 tires.  Holy cow!  I had no idea what I've been missing!  I now understand
 the concept of supple.  It was like riding on a cloud... a very smooth,
 fast and responsive cloud.  My most sincere thanks to everyone who
 recommended Compass tires and suggested the Barlow Pass Extralights over
 the Stampede Pass.  I'm sure I would have been thrilled with the Stampedes
 as well but the extra size gives me a little more confidence that my riding
 might be a little more flat-free.  I am amazed at the speed and feel of the
 bike now.  My hat's off to everyone at Compass.  Sam has been reborn beyond
 the go-fastish machine I was hoping for from this purchase.  Now onward
 to an Albastache cockpit.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/16993973501/
 Thanks everyone!

 John

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:28:05 AM UTC-7, Surlyprof wrote:

 I can't afford to do too much experimenting when it comes to bikes and
 components so I could really use the wisdom and experience of the group on
 this one.  I have a 56 Hillborne that came with two sets of wheels.  The
 sturdy/heavy, 36h ones have 700x40 Schwalbe Mondials that I use for
 commuting, trails and all around town riding.  Now I get to leverage my
 birthday to finally get tires for the lighter 32 hole XT/Synergy wheels.  I
 wanted to set them up to turn the Sam into my only go-fastish road bike for
 summer riding.  I think I have it narrowed down to either 700x35 or 700x32
 Marathon Supremes or Compass Stampede Pass (700x32).  I was leaning toward
 the Supreme 32's to be a big difference from the beefy Mondials but, after
 reading Jan's articles on tire size and pressure I started to think Supreme
 35's might be a better choice.  The reason I lean toward the Schwalbes is
 that I've had a long, very positive and almost flatless history with
 Schwalbe.  Of course this wouldn't be a dilemma if I could just talk my
 wife into buying me the Rodeo in the web specials!

 Since the Rodeo is not to be, I'd appreciate any guidance for a
 blissful, light-ish, go fast-ish road riding summer spent on the Hillborne.

 Thanks,
 John



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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Liesl
Ever the high road.  Thank you Deacon Patrick.  
-RCW

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread DMG
Did it get a little passive-aggressive in here, or is it just me?

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[RBW] Re: Simplifying the Simpleone

2015-03-31 Thread 'Hudson Doerge' via RBW Owners Bunch
this is a 56cm SO and the bag is acorn's medium size 
http://acornbags.com/collections/rear-bags/products/medium-saddlebag. 


On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:07:22 AM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Looking good! What size frame and acorn bag is that? I ride smaller (54cm 
 and down) frames and have trouble finding saddlebags that don't hit the 
 tire without a rack or fender there to buffer.

 On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 9:40:14 AM UTC-7, Hudson Doerge wrote:

 After having my Simpleone in super commuter mode for the last couple 
 years I decided it was time to slim down for summer and set up the bike for 
 some more lightly-laden fun. Off came the medium Saddlesack and rack. On 
 went the much smaller Acorn saddlebag. I also recently switched from my 
 trusty and seriously overused Marathon Supremes to Soma C-lines, which do 
 run a bit smoother to be sure. This setup may be a little more inline with 
 the Simpleone/Quickbeam philosophy. Of course the basket stays though.

 -Hudson in ATX



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[RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

2015-03-31 Thread Liesl
Perhaps there should be a Bike-in-Kitchen Demerit Badge a la cyclotourist! 
It still makes me laugh.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread Richard Rios
I have been trying to think up a very thoughtful response to all of this.  
Being on the bogus end of a burn has perhaps made this a bit more 
difficult.  The intent of my original response post was a good faith effort 
to contact Peter since phone calls, texts, and emials were failing.  
Unfortunately as of writing it does not seem to have had it's desired 
effect.  In any event I must admit as much as I am dissapointed by this 
experience I am equally confused.  You see for the life of me I can't quite 
figure out why someone would sell items to others, hold onto them citing 
shipping delays or health problems or..., causing some degree of concern or 
frustration on the purchaseres part, ultimately just to send the part(s) 
out.   Is it just me or does any one else find this behavior a bit 
pecular.   I mean once, maybe even twice, to have health issues, or 
shipping delays, I get it stuff happens.  But I think that it is fair to 
conclude at this point there is a bit more to the story than that. So I 
have now resigned myself to the fact that this is more than likely a loss.  
I am tired of thinking about it and if Peter needs the money that bad then 
he can have it and I wish him well.  Hopefully he will find good health 
mentally, spiritually, physically,  and if my 80$ somehow contributes to 
this then all the better.  This type of behavior really just bums me out 
big time.  Please forgive me and thank you for bearing with me as I know I 
dont post often, but I read often and enjoy many of the thoughts and 
experiences shared by those that do. I will again beg your pardon as 
typically I don't take things this hard but in an other wise complicated 
world the owners bunch is where I come for my daily dose of aaw shucks, 
golly wally, the good guys look out for the other guys, wear white, and 
always win...The stuff about lugs and handlebar tape is cool to!)

Sincerly,
Richard

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 8:01:27 PM UTC-7, Robert Barr wrote:

 To respond to Drew's question, I did get my item. It took a long time, and 
 there were several emails, but I got my item, and it was as promised. In 
 fairness, after I got my first note from Peter telling me there had been a 
 shipping error, I told him not to worry - the item was for bike I was going 
 to build until later. If I had been building up a bike at the time and 
 needing the crank to finish, I would have been more frustrated. Later when 
 it became clear that my experience wasn't unique, I held off on sending a 
 note to Jim because it seemed that items were being shipped, albeit very 
 slowly. That may have been a mistake on my part, but I have heard 
 enough unbelievable stories from students that ended up being true, that I 
 tend to be very careful. Bob  

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 When I saw a Bosco Bullmoose for $80, I was ready to jump on it.  Such a 
 deal!  Then I saw who the seller was, and decided not to jump.  Maybe I 
 should have looked out for the group the way I looked out for myself.  I 
 promise I will next time.  

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I purchased a seatpost from him in December. There was no communication 
 for about a month, then I emailed a few times. He said it must have been 
 lost, but that he had another one that he would send, and that came about a 
 week later IIRC. 

 So I can say that he delivered what I bought, and AAFAIK he delivered to 
 everyone else, but it did take approximately a month with poor 
 communication.


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
 wrote:

 Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-6, drew beckmeyer wrote:


 To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to 
 finally get your items or your money back?

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[RBW] WTB: Sugino Quickbeam Chainring Guard

2015-03-31 Thread sameness
Got one? The beat-er, the bet-ter. I know I can buy a new one from RBW, but 
$32.00 represents 22% of this bike's net worth.

Cash? PayPal? Trades? Let me know what you're looking for. Off-list, see 
voo play.

Thanks!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge!

2015-03-31 Thread cyclotourist
Everything including the kitchen sink!

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:

 Perhaps there should be a Bike-in-Kitchen Demerit Badge a la cyclotourist!
 It still makes me laugh.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4205517724

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[RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-03-31 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Back around 2007 or so, there was a unique one-off which showed up (I saw 
it down at the NAHBS, IIRC.)  It had horizontal rear fork ends, and was not 
a fully lugged model.  

(OK... I just spent the last 30 minutes trolling through my albums and 
those which were still accessible... all to naught!  SOMEONE took a photo 
of it, and warn't me!) (Can someone post a link or email me that - I 
thought I had that in my RBW Oddities file, but cannot come up with it.)

There is also the original Prototype - photographed here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fixedgear/12231398

which was the one used for the original announcements, etc. found near the 
bottom of this page:

http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam/

- Jim




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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Deacon, if you want Steve to be friendly and tolerant in his expression of 
his opinions, I guess you'll have to re-engage with him over on i-Bob, the 
Group he moderates.  i-Bobs are expected to be friendly and tolerant, or 
so the i-Bob rules state.

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 12:16:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:

 On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
  Dear Steve, 
  
  I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes 
  you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you 
  ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy 
  to explain why I ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not 
  the real issue here. I wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's 
  healing balm and that God may startle you with joy. 

 Do what you like.  I said what *I* would do.  I would not do what you 
 do, for the reason I stated.  I'm not angry, I just think you are being 
 very foolish (or, as they say in the vernacular, being an idiot). 

 It is now well known head trauma is cumulative, and you have on numerous 
 occasions made it very well known around here that you are already 
 suffering the effects of multiple head traumas.   You may be willing to 
 risk more; as I said, if it were me, I would not. 

 As for the rest of you, by all means wear or don't wear whatever you 
 like.  I truly do not care, and was not speaking about you. 




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RE: [RBW] Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

2015-03-31 Thread Dave Redmon
Re: good mirrors for handlebars--I like these

http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/m/showsearchresults.asp?idcategory=9

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Group: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digestutm_medium=email#!forum/rbw-owners-bunch/topics


  - Got my new Cheviot [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/23f93de65617c5d3
  - The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati) [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/a661b490b3aa2a4
  - Just Got My Goathead Demerit Badge! [3 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/4e33a847cc28108c
  - B-Stone on CL [7 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/c2667fcf8cbe16b8
  - Coffee Outside [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/20e149a30e1a8490
  - What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun? [4 
Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/88caaa3f1034cddd
  - Cambium vs. Flyer question [4 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/b88bbfb05c9a8944
  - FS: MUSA splats, Showers Pass Club Convertible Rain Pants [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/4558868baefaf11d


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Topic: Got my new Cheviot
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From: Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com
Date: Mar 30 05:41PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/7829fde7847111a7

I recall Jan doing a thorough tire comparison.  The old G.B. Ourson has the
same tread as CDV on a better body and rides noticeably nicer. I have the
non TG pasela 1 1/2 on my Ram and Oursons on the Road with a TREK wearing
Maxy Fastys. They all ride well but the Paselas are the noisiest of the
bunch. The maxy Fastys are best against puncture.  Pari Motos are lovely to
ride on but puncture more easily. Mileage on them is around 2,000 max which
is about the same as the Pasela. The others will get you over 3,000. Cypres
ran in between iirc. I have been trying to use up some of my stockpile
prior to buying new tires, but many of the new offerings are tempting.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Dave C david.charles.carr...@gmail.com
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From: Liesl li...@smm.org
Date: Mar 30 04:18PM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/ad9ba29d6e5f209e

I giggled out loud at that first kitchen shot. Classic!



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From: KC kathyscarr...@gmail.com
Date: Mar 30 05:18PM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/2ff192dbc95a1ddd

Next challenge.  I can't ride without a mirror. In fact i used 2 bar end 
mirrors on my old bike - i have a condition that results in less peripheral 
vision (minimized eye movement) so it really helps me keep track.

New bike has bar end shifters that I'm really enjoying.  I added one German 
mirror from riv cuz i didn't see a better option based on my googles and bike 
shop forays.  It's ok, but the distortion is so different. I am used to a much 
truer perspective.

i really prefer not using a helmet mount. Has anyone seen a good handle bar 
option?It also seems like i should be able to create a mount that would let 
me repurpose my bar end mirrors to mount on the handle bar. Has anyone done 
that?  Hard for me to believe someone else hasn't tackled this already.



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Topic: The one(s) that got away (or, that Atlantis in Cincinnati)
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/t/a661b490b3aa2a4
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From: dougP dougpn...@cox.net
Date: Mar 30 04:50PM -0700
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/207d8c8a63eec031

Kickstand plates and mid-fork braze-ons can be added.  If you can live with
some roughness in the paint in those areas, the old Testors model paint is
a good match.

dougP

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 8:45:35 AM UTC-7, Mark Wilkins wrote:


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From: Mark Wilkins wilkins.m...@gmail.com
Date: Mar 30 08:17PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/msg/7b6c872894769b9

C'mon, dougP! I was trying to make myself feel better!





[RBW] Old Quickbeam

2015-03-31 Thread abarr...@olypen.com
I have an old Quickbeam that I am trying to get a little history on.  I 
purchased it used several years ago from a fellow who had an impressive 
stable full of spectacular bikes.  He said that he purchased it from the 
floor of a bicycle show some time around 2004.  He thought that it might be 
a prototype, but it does not have the fancy lugs that are shown on 
prototype examples in cyclofiend's website.  The trail grows cold here.  
There is no serial number stamped on the bottom bracket where I would 
expect to see it.  Only the name Rivendell is stamped into the shell.

Did QB's have s/n's stamped like other Rivendell's?  Perhaps it is located 
in a different place?  Maybe it was on a sticker?

I was hoping to find this information as I am considering selling this old 
friend as my knees aren't enjoying the ss experience like they once did and 
I would like to offer as much information as I can.

Thank you, Adam.


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[RBW] Beausage Reminder

2015-03-31 Thread Mathew Greiner
No, I can't trade my awesome Pass  Stow rack for a smaller front rack and 
a rear rack because a) I use a trail a bike to pull my daughter too often 
and a rear rack would interfere and b) the wide span of the porter rack is 
so stinking useful. I wanted to only because the style of porter racks 
feels a tad ostentatious. The Pass  Stow is otherwise excellent and the 
maker was super to buy from. But still, it's Spring, and these things must 
be questioned. 
Then, Bam! A Hunq on the Blug shows up with a Pass  Stow and the whole 
thing is the very definition of badass. Not one whit of dandy-ism. So why 
is this classy bike with a classy rack so tough looking? The same rack. The 
same Cap'n Hook net.
One cheap beat up basket.
Time to order a Wald.

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[RBW] FS: Bosco Cockpit - $60

2015-03-31 Thread Kevin Mulcahy
55cm Bosco bars in Cromo Dullbrite finish, with Avid SD-7 levers and rubber 
grips. 

I bought these on Ebay last week and installed them once, but they aren't 
going to work for me. 
The levers have a couple light scratches, and the bars have some light 
crosshatching wear from being upside down in a parts bin. Very hard to 
notice the marks from more than 2ft away.

The grips have the ends cut off and fit kinda loosely - they might not work 
for you, so I'm basically throwing them in for free. 

I can email pics. 

$60 picked up, or add $8 for shipping. 


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Chicago, IL

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Re: [RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

2015-03-31 Thread Chris Chen
In any case, even the crappiest cup of coffee tastes great when you're
outside in the morning.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM, shawn m. smula...@gmail.com wrote:

 I also really like the inverted method in terms of the quality. It makes a
 GREAT half-cup of coffee. That's my only beef about the method, really. It
 treads a fine line between too fussy and just fussy enough, which is
 important first thing in the morning. Typically, I just double it: two
 scoops, twice as much much hot water, dilute the product somewhere in the
 2:1 ballpark (slightly less, depending). In my protracted career of coffee
 snobbery my experience has been that quality coffee overcomes uneven
 methods; it's easy to make good coffee with good beans. One of the best
 cups of coffee in my life was cowboy coffee of Tanzania Peaberry near the
 headwaters of the Salmon River in the Sawtooth range of central Idaho
 before riding the Fisher Creek trail. Possibly the best day ever...

 If method is your madness, though... I submit the following coffee nerdery
 for your consideration:

 http://worldaeropresschampionship.com/recipes/

 Shawn
 I'll have another cup of coffee! - Groucho Marx, Duck Soup

 On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 8:41:28 AM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:

 Im gearing up to do this activity on the weekends. I'm wondering what
 people use for coffee outside, and a list of items one shouldn't leave home
 without. Add your photos as well. Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 03/31/2015 09:19 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote:

Dear Steve,

I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes 
you great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you 
ever email me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy 
to explain why I ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not 
the real issue here. I wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's 
healing balm and that God may startle you with joy.


Do what you like.  I said what *I* would do.  I would not do what you 
do, for the reason I stated.  I'm not angry, I just think you are being 
very foolish (or, as they say in the vernacular, being an idiot).


It is now well known head trauma is cumulative, and you have on numerous 
occasions made it very well known around here that you are already 
suffering the effects of multiple head traumas.   You may be willing to 
risk more; as I said, if it were me, I would not.


As for the rest of you, by all means wear or don't wear whatever you 
like.  I truly do not care, and was not speaking about you.



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[RBW] FS: Clockwork 650b Lugged Frame/Fork 56cm - Quickbeam-ish

2015-03-31 Thread David Banzer
Clockwork 650b Frame/Fork

Custom built by Joel of Clockwork.
56cm seat-tube. I'll take more measurements this evening.
Takes 650b wheels, cantilever brakes, 1 quill stem, 3 water bottle bosses, 
double fork eyelets, rack/fender eyelets, fender mounts at seat and 
chainstay bridges, under fork crown.
Rear is 135mm spacing - also has braze-ons for running Rohloff shift cables 
(these conveniently double as rear dynamo guides).
Can be set up as a single speed of is Rohloff internal hub ready.
Basically a Quickbeam/Simpleone type

Frame/fork are in nice condition, no dents/dings. Only thing I can find is 
two powdercoat imperfections or wear, photos show them.

I picked this up recently from the original owner, and was going to 
surprise a friend with it last weekend. Turns out it's a couple cm too 
short, and he needs gears and wasn't thrilled about an internal gear hub. I 
was kinda bummed, and am also bummed it can't stay in the household - I'm 
way too tall, SO is way too short.

Lugged frame and fork - based on Clockwork's current prices, this would put 
it in the $1700 area, possibly more with the added brazeons.

I'm asking $700 to RBW-OB listers, plus shipping costs and any Paypal fees. 
Price is for frame and fork, headset shown is not included. I'll pay for a 
shop to pack this up for shipping.
Photos hopefully should be available here: 
http://s821.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/library/For%20sale?sort=3page=1

Please contact me offlist.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread John
This is getting away from the sun hat topic, and I also hate wearing a 
helmet, but at least Steve cares enough about all of us to call us ninnies 
for not wearing one.

If he didn't care about us, he would keep quiet.

My wife is a psychologist who has treated a large number of people 
suffering from head trauma and the permanent damage to their cognitive 
abilities and personalities.

She has also treated emergency room professionals traumatized by what they 
have seen  treated. So you can guess where she comes down on the helmet 
issue, and whether I have to wear one.

BACK ON TOPIC:  I also like the Grant solution of long sleeve cotton 
shirts, but I have yet to find as cool a hat as Chris's cowboy hat. 

After about 15 straight months of record breaking temps, I could wear one 
of those year round here in Berkeley, if only my wife would let me. :(

John (Dreaming of a steel steeds  straw Stetsons) Phillips

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Jim Bronson
We also know crabon fiber bikes are lighter than steel ones.  So what does
it prove, exactly?

If riding without a helmet is his joy, then let him have it.  There's only
so much changing of hearts and minds you're going to do on an email list.

I take a risk riding my bike also, for a different health related reason
I'm not going to get into here, but it would leave my life so much more
empty if I could not ride, that it's worth it to me to take the risk.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

  On 03/30/2015 04:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he expertly
 ducked Steve's punch!  Bravo.

 On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do
 was ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain bludgeoned. Grin.


 Ducked?   Ha!  Morelike, demonstrated the truth of what I said.

 We now know head trauma is cumulative.  It's one thing with a pristine,
 undamaged brain; it's quite another to add further injury.   How far is it
 from bludgeoned brain to vegetative state?



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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Anne Paulson
Are Treadley helmet hats available in the US, or do I have to send to Australia?

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 8:24 AM, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Here's what I use:

 http://www.treadley.com.au/

 This little cottage industry was developed by a concerned mother in
 Australia.  They can look a bit goofy but work fantastic.  If I remember
 correctly she had a big sale right around Easter last year.

 Matt

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread René Sterental
Not to perpetuate any discussion on the helmet topic, my position on the
issue is that if I'm going to wear one (and I do), I want to make it as
bold and awesome as my bikes are. Therefore, I just replaced my aging
Specialized helmet with a new POC Octal MIPS bright orange helmet that cost
a fortune for a helmet, but gives my wife peace of mind:
http://news.pocsports.com/2014/08/21/poc-unveils-the-octal-avip-mips-and-eye-park/

Since its vents are so large (and it feels awesome when riding with it),
I'm going to explore some of the great suggestions that have been shared in
this thread to ride with warm temperatures and additional sun protection as
we're getting summer temperatures here in the SF Bay Area now. When it's
colder, I just wear and love the Icebreaker Chase Beanies:
http://www.icebreaker.com/en/web-specials/chase-beanie/100746_WS.html?dwvar_100746__WS_color=302cts=110%7C501%7CD87%7C302%7C401

René

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:54 AM, John jphillip...@icloud.com wrote:

 This is getting away from the sun hat topic, and I also hate wearing a
 helmet, but at least Steve cares enough about all of us to call us ninnies
 for not wearing one.

 If he didn't care about us, he would keep quiet.

 My wife is a psychologist who has treated a large number of people
 suffering from head trauma and the permanent damage to their cognitive
 abilities and personalities.

 She has also treated emergency room professionals traumatized by what they
 have seen  treated. So you can guess where she comes down on the helmet
 issue, and whether I have to wear one.

 BACK ON TOPIC:  I also like the Grant solution of long sleeve cotton
 shirts, but I have yet to find as cool a hat as Chris's cowboy hat.

 After about 15 straight months of record breaking temps, I could wear one
 of those year round here in Berkeley, if only my wife would let me. :(

 John (Dreaming of a steel steeds  straw Stetsons) Phillips

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside

2015-03-31 Thread Edwin W
Chris,

My birthday recently came and went. No email. I called up to snag a Clem 
and found out the birthday email discount is gone like the wind.

As a protest, I'm giving up the whole birthday thing.

Edwin

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:09:21 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote:

 Bill,

 I'll put it this way, my birthday discount from Riv will be applied to a 
 stem shifter pod for my Hilsen.  Seem to be just right for my quirks.  Love 
 'em.

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

2015-03-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
Terrific news, Sean.  I'm really glad that worked for you.  Good job!  

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:21:16 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:

 Good news - my wedge is no longer stuck!

 At the suggestion of Bill (and implied by several others), I cut a board 
 that would fit over the head tube.  I drilled a hole in the board that was 
 large enough for the stem bolt.  Then I simply screwed the bolt into the 
 wedge and kept screwing until the wedge unstuck itself and I could pull 
 it right out of the head tube.  This was an easy solution to my problem, 
 and certainly less work than pulling off the fenders, brakes, etc.

 The next step in the process for me is a new stem.  I will be placing an 
 order from Rivendell today before the 6% off coupon expires.  I need to 
 decide whether to order a 25.4 clamp to go with my albatross bars (which 
 was the point of this little project) or to order a 26.0 clamp.  I have a 
 sham to use the larger stem with my albatross bars.  Getting the bigger 
 size also allows me to switch back to the noodles at some point if I decide 
 that the albatross bars are not for me.  However, a 25.4 clamp size without 
 a shim would be a better fit for the albatross bars.  What to do, what to 
 do? 

 Thanks for all of the help with my stuck stem wedge.

 Sean




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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for head coverings for riding in the sun?

2015-03-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Dear Steve,

I am sorry something happened to you and/or those you love that causes you 
great anger toward me because I do not wear a helmet. Should you ever email 
me directly, either in the group or privately, I am happy to explain why I 
ride without a helmet, but that, I suspect, is not the real issue here. I 
wish pray you experience the peace of Christ's healing balm and that God 
may startle you with joy.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 6:10:39 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:

  On 03/30/2015 04:54 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
  
 Deacon Patrick may have received a few blows to the head, but he expertly 
 ducked Steve's punch!  Bravo.  

 On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:30:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Och, Steve! If you needed help following my reasoning all you had to do 
 was ask. It can be challenging keeping up with the brain bludgeoned. Grin.
  
  
 Ducked?   Ha!  Morelike, demonstrated the truth of what I said.

 We now know head trauma is cumulative.  It's one thing with a pristine, 
 undamaged brain; it's quite another to add further injury.   How far is it 
 from bludgeoned brain to vegetative state?



  

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[RBW] Re: Alternative Frame Pump Mounting.

2015-03-31 Thread Dave Johnston
I'm using a band on pump peg from klickfix called a pumpfix for bikes that 
don't have a pump peg. Will work in multiple locations, I've only used it 
on the top tube.

-Dave

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:

 I find myself with a couple frame pumps too short for my bikes, and am 
 wondering what other folks have done to mount pumps in different ways than 
 pump peg locations. Photos would be very helpful.
 Thanks,
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[RBW] Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Just 'cause: what are y'all's favorite cruising gears, to wit, that you use
most often on smoothish pavement, and that you gravitate toward on flat
land with little or no wind?

#2: Add to this the kind of tire and

#3: the length of your cranks, and

#4: the total all-up (= bike + rider + typical load) weight range.

I believe, but would like to find more evidence, that the human body tends
naturally toward 6 1/2 to 7 cranks and 65 to 75 gears for normal
cruising. Am I right?

Anyway, during today's very nice 20 1/2 mile detour for a 3 mile errand, on
the '03, I noticed how pleasant 170 mm cranks and a 70 gear is, and how
well it seems adapted to a wide range of wind speeds and inclines -- of
course, a single gear is almost always a compromise, but 70 is, for me, by
far the best compromise.


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[RBW] Re: Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread Ron Mc
that was fun.  Here's my buddy's Fisher, before a lawsuit forced him to add 
his given name to the trademark.  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/campout/aP3120054.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Forgot to add: good, supple road tire, in this case the 1.35 Kojak; and a
weight range of ~190 to 230.

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just 'cause: what are y'all's favorite cruising gears, to wit, that you
 use most often on smoothish pavement, and that you gravitate toward on flat
 land with little or no wind?

 #2: Add to this the kind of tire and

 #3: the length of your cranks, and

 #4: the total all-up (= bike + rider + typical load) weight range.

 I believe, but would like to find more evidence, that the human body tends
 naturally toward 6 1/2 to 7 cranks and 65 to 75 gears for normal
 cruising. Am I right?

 Anyway, during today's very nice 20 1/2 mile detour for a 3 mile errand,
 on the '03, I noticed how pleasant 170 mm cranks and a 70 gear is, and how
 well it seems adapted to a wide range of wind speeds and inclines -- of
 course, a single gear is almost always a compromise, but 70 is, for me, by
 far the best compromise.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 03/31/2015 05:34 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:


I believe, but would like to find more evidence, that the human body 
tends naturally toward 6 1/2 to 7 cranks and 65 to 75 gears for 
normal cruising. Am I right?




It's been like that for a century at least.  People mostly come in a 
certain range of sizes (normal distribution curve)


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[RBW] BUMP! FS bags, bar, hubs

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
1. Jandd Mountain Wedge 3, 6-to-7.5 liters, no dropout bungees (I never
needed them) and tabs to attach them to the bag cut off): $30 shipped CONUS.

2. Topeak large saddle wedge, black, VG, unzips circumferentially to expand
to a length able to contain (just) a small water bottle in addition to
modest kit: $16 shipped CONUS.

3. Nitto Noodle bar, 42 cm, $45 shipped CONUS.

4. 2 X cartridge front hub, 32 hole, shiny silver, very possibly the
SunTours that Riv sold 15 years ago, smooth as buttah, $16 shipped CONUS
EACH.

Interesting trade suggestions welcome.



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[RBW] Re: BUMP! FS bags, bar, hubs

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, forgot to say: will happily take a front caliper in full or part (as
appropriate) exchange, said caliper having these qualities:

1. Good quality silver finish.
2. Well made; forged preferred.
3. Powerful with moderate finger pressure.
4. Reach range from 50 to 57 mm.
5. And most important: opens wide enough with QR to allow 32 mm tire to
slip past easily.

Thanks.

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 1. Jandd Mountain Wedge 3, 6-to-7.5 liters, no dropout bungees (I never
 needed them) and tabs to attach them to the bag cut off): $30 shipped CONUS.

 2. Topeak large saddle wedge, black, VG, unzips circumferentially to
 expand to a length able to contain (just) a small water bottle in addition
 to modest kit: $16 shipped CONUS.

 3. Nitto Noodle bar, 42 cm, $45 shipped CONUS.

 4. 2 X cartridge front hub, 32 hole, shiny silver, very possibly the
 SunTours that Riv sold 15 years ago, smooth as buttah, $16 shipped CONUS
 EACH.

 Interesting trade suggestions welcome.



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[RBW] Re: Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Ron Mc
Patrick, you pretty much nailed it.  70 inches is the only gear that is 
duplicated on my half-step setup, so depending on whether I'm on 16 or 18 
in the rear, I can pick 65/70 inches or 70/78 inches on my halfsteps and 
make great strides.  

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 4:34:30 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Forgot to add: good, supple road tire, in this case the 1.35 Kojak; and a 
 weight range of ~190 to 230.

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Just 'cause: what are y'all's favorite cruising gears, to wit, that you 
 use most often on smoothish pavement, and that you gravitate toward on flat 
 land with little or no wind?

 #2: Add to this the kind of tire and

 #3: the length of your cranks, and

 #4: the total all-up (= bike + rider + typical load) weight range.

 I believe, but would like to find more evidence, that the human body 
 tends naturally toward 6 1/2 to 7 cranks and 65 to 75 gears for 
 normal cruising. Am I right?

 Anyway, during today's very nice 20 1/2 mile detour for a 3 mile errand, 
 on the '03, I noticed how pleasant 170 mm cranks and a 70 gear is, and how 
 well it seems adapted to a wide range of wind speeds and inclines -- of 
 course, a single gear is almost always a compromise, but 70 is, for me, by 
 far the best compromise.


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Re: [RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
This particular race and video were done on January 20th, 1979 for a local 
TV station which broadcast it in the Bay Area and then it went syndicated 
across the nation, exposing America to Klunking.   

I love this video and have watched it many times, along with the 
documentary Klunkerz.   

I dare anyone to go watch some clips from VisionQuest or Gross Anatomy on 
Youtube and then tell me the blond stoner at 50 seconds in is not a young 
Matthew Modine before he became famous.   I know it's not him but the 
physical resemblance and speech pattern similarities are remarkable.  



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 That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a 
 smoking coaster hub, though.

 Notice too the no retention pedals and ride in what you're wearing 
 clothing.

 I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really started 
 10 or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

 Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

 1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
 2) dig hair!
 3) dig the pre-boscos
 4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
 5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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Re: [RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread Patrick Moore
That is an interesting video, and interesting hair. I wish they'd show a
smoking coaster hub, though.

Notice too the no retention pedals and ride in what you're wearing
clothing.

I was interested to hear whatzizname say that the sport had really started
10 or so years earlier; what, mid to late '60s? Nil novum, etc.

Can anyone identify the year or at least specify the period? Late '70s?

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 Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

 1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
 2) dig hair!
 3) dig the pre-boscos
 4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
 5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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[RBW] Re: Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
...flat land with little or no wind... I don't understand.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Your favorite cruising gear?

2015-03-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
My big gear on my QB is 68 and I am always surprised by how much I can do 
in it.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

2015-03-31 Thread SeanMac
Good news - my wedge is no longer stuck!

At the suggestion of Bill (and implied by several others), I cut a board 
that would fit over the head tube.  I drilled a hole in the board that was 
large enough for the stem bolt.  Then I simply screwed the bolt into the 
wedge and kept screwing until the wedge unstuck itself and I could pull 
it right out of the head tube.  This was an easy solution to my problem, 
and certainly less work than pulling off the fenders, brakes, etc.

The next step in the process for me is a new stem.  I will be placing an 
order from Rivendell today before the 6% off coupon expires.  I need to 
decide whether to order a 25.4 clamp to go with my albatross bars (which 
was the point of this little project) or to order a 26.0 clamp.  I have a 
sham to use the larger stem with my albatross bars.  Getting the bigger 
size also allows me to switch back to the noodles at some point if I decide 
that the albatross bars are not for me.  However, a 25.4 clamp size without 
a shim would be a better fit for the albatross bars.  What to do, what to 
do? 

Thanks for all of the help with my stuck stem wedge.

Sean


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[RBW] Klunking!

2015-03-31 Thread Liesl
Hey, regarding the new riv-posted video...

1) dig pre-famous gary fischer!
2) dig hair!
3) dig the pre-boscos
4) dig the diagatube pre-hunq
5) does anyone see Grant hiding somewhere in there??

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread drew beckmeyer
Richard,
I got a similar set of postponements and stories. The funeral that he had to 
attend to was weeks ago. I kept asking for a refund or a tracking number and I 
would get responses that had neither...until no responses at all. The 
frustrating and suspect thing is that a paypal refund would take the same time 
to do as writing an email telling me he was too busy to do that. The fact that 
neither of us got our packages or a tracking number, implies that they were 
never senteven though he said they were. 

To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to finally get 
your items or your money back?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] for trade~ a cut down Wald basket and an 80mm Technomic stem

2015-03-31 Thread Kurt Manley
I have a Wald basket cut down exactly like the one on Sean's Hunq on the 
blug that I'd like to get rid of. 

I'd trade for 

a frame pump
a multi tool with chain breaker
some decent dual pivot side pulls for my gf's bike
some good IPA
obviously some of those things could be worth more than a basket so I could 
make up the difference

It would not be worth shipping so if you are in Oakland,CA and want to 
trade lemme know

I also have an 80mm 26.0 technomic and I need around a 120mm. I can use 26 
or 25.4
I'd sell this stem too.

Thanks!


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread cyclotourist
I purchased a seatpost from him in December. There was no communication for
about a month, then I emailed a few times. He said it must have been lost,
but that he had another one that he would send, and that came about a week
later IIRC.

So I can say that he delivered what I bought, and AAFAIK he delivered to
everyone else, but it did take approximately a month with poor
communication.


On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-6, drew beckmeyer wrote:


 To everyone who has been through this before, what did you do to finally
 get your items or your money back?

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[RBW] Re: Repair help needed - Stuck stem expander wedge

2015-03-31 Thread David Hays
Great news. Nice to have that out of the way.
I’d suggest the 25.4 stem which will take a wide variety of bars and leave 
you the option of switching in the noodle anytime.
David

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 4:54:08 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Terrific news, Sean.  I'm really glad that worked for you.  Good job!  

 On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:21:16 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:

 Good news - my wedge is no longer stuck!

 At the suggestion of Bill (and implied by several others), I cut a board 
 that would fit over the head tube.  I drilled a hole in the board that was 
 large enough for the stem bolt.  Then I simply screwed the bolt into the 
 wedge and kept screwing until the wedge unstuck itself and I could pull 
 it right out of the head tube.  This was an easy solution to my problem, 
 and certainly less work than pulling off the fenders, brakes, etc.

 The next step in the process for me is a new stem.  I will be placing an 
 order from Rivendell today before the 6% off coupon expires.  I need to 
 decide whether to order a 25.4 clamp to go with my albatross bars (which 
 was the point of this little project) or to order a 26.0 clamp.  I have a 
 sham to use the larger stem with my albatross bars.  Getting the bigger 
 size also allows me to switch back to the noodles at some point if I decide 
 that the albatross bars are not for me.  However, a 25.4 clamp size without 
 a shim would be a better fit for the albatross bars.  What to do, what to 
 do? 

 Thanks for all of the help with my stuck stem wedge.

 Sean




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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 58 cm Cromo Bosco BullMoose bars

2015-03-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
When I saw a Bosco Bullmoose for $80, I was ready to jump on it.  Such a 
deal!  Then I saw who the seller was, and decided not to jump.  Maybe I 
should have looked out for the group the way I looked out for myself.  I 
promise I will next time.  

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 1:49:09 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I purchased a seatpost from him in December. There was no communication 
 for about a month, then I emailed a few times. He said it must have been 
 lost, but that he had another one that he would send, and that came about a 
 week later IIRC. 

 So I can say that he delivered what I bought, and AAFAIK he delivered to 
 everyone else, but it did take approximately a month with poor 
 communication.


 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Fortunately and unfortunately, the same things you've been doing.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Help a so-so mechanic with rear derailed issues

2015-03-31 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Here's the deal: I've adjusted my derailers often but I can't get the rear 
shifting right on my Hilsen. I have DuraAce bar ends which I've been using in 
friction mode for about a year and a half. I have a brand new rear cassette, 
9-speed, brand new chain and chain rings. I use Sheldon's method when setting 
things up. I shift to the highest gear (when the cable is loosest) with the 
cable disconnected. I pull the cable until it is just snug, then tighten the 
bolt. I leave about 1 available turn on each barrel adjuster (there are two for 
the rear cable) to loosen the cable if need be, which leaves the much more room 
for the barrel adjusters to tighten it. I can't seem to get the shifting to 
stay still in the lowest 3 gears. It skips back and forth. It will be ok if 
there's not too much of a load on the pedals but it wants to wander when I'm 
climbing. This is the case in all three chainrings. What gives?!? I keep 
tightening the barrel adjusters 1/2 turn at a time and can't seem to get it 
right. I loosen and that's no help either. When I go to the very lowest gear 
(requiring the most cable tension) it stays in place fine. So what do you all 
think, is the cable too tight or too loose?

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[RBW] Re: Old Quickbeam

2015-03-31 Thread Minh
my QB only has a sticker for a SN.  

IMHO, a QB (or a Rivendell in general) is not a Herse, and a QB was always 
meant as an affordable bike so i don't see this as collectible.  Just my 
opinion, i'd price this like all the other QBs that have floated through 
the list and not worry too much about the provenance.

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:10:28 PM UTC-4, abar...@olypen.com wrote:

 I have an old Quickbeam that I am trying to get a little history on.  I 
 purchased it used several years ago from a fellow who had an impressive 
 stable full of spectacular bikes.  He said that he purchased it from the 
 floor of a bicycle show some time around 2004.  He thought that it might be 
 a prototype, but it does not have the fancy lugs that are shown on 
 prototype examples in cyclofiend's website.  The trail grows cold here.  
 There is no serial number stamped on the bottom bracket where I would 
 expect to see it.  Only the name Rivendell is stamped into the shell.

 Did QB's have s/n's stamped like other Rivendell's?  Perhaps it is located 
 in a different place?  Maybe it was on a sticker?

 I was hoping to find this information as I am considering selling this old 
 friend as my knees aren't enjoying the ss experience like they once did and 
 I would like to offer as much information as I can.

 Thank you, Adam.




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[RBW] Re: Help a so-so mechanic with rear derailed issues

2015-03-31 Thread Jim M.
What happens when the cable is disconnected? Does the derailer stay in high 
gear? You may need to adjust the high gear limit screw to allow the 
derailer to travel freely to the small cog. Another possibility is the 
b-tension screw adjustment. Loosening that screw can make the shifting 
better, but you don't want it so loose that it bumps into the large cog. If 
none of those work, my next thought is that the derailer hanger is a little 
bent. You may want to get the alignment checked. Good thing it's a steel 
frame. 

jim m
wc ca

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 5:22:38 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 Here's the deal: I've adjusted my derailers often but I can't get the rear 
 shifting right on my Hilsen. I have DuraAce bar ends which I've been using 
 in friction mode for about a year and a half. I have a brand new rear 
 cassette, 9-speed, brand new chain and chain rings. I use Sheldon's method 
 when setting things up. I shift to the highest gear (when the cable is 
 loosest) with the cable disconnected. I pull the cable until it is just 
 snug, then tighten the bolt. I leave about 1 available turn on each barrel 
 adjuster (there are two for the rear cable) to loosen the cable if need be, 
 which leaves the much more room for the barrel adjusters to tighten it. I 
 can't seem to get the shifting to stay still in the lowest 3 gears. It 
 skips back and forth. It will be ok if there's not too much of a load on 
 the pedals but it wants to wander when I'm climbing. This is the case in 
 all three chainrings. What gives?!? I keep tightening the barrel adjusters 
 1/2 turn at a time and can't seem to get it right. I loosen and that's no 
 help either. When I go to the very lowest gear (requiring the most cable 
 tension) it stays in place fine. So what do you all think, is the cable too 
 tight or too loose?

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[RBW] Re: Help a so-so mechanic with rear derailed issues

2015-03-31 Thread Bill Lindsay
If you are using friction then the cable tightness or looseness is not 
relevant.  Either you put the shifter in the wrong place when you shifted 
into that gear in the first place (user error) or the shifter itself is 
slipping, not providing quite enough friction to hold the derailer in 
place.  

If it is just simple user error, then the slipping would be equally likely 
to wander to a smaller cog or wander to a larger cog.  In both cases you 
moved the shifter to an intermediate position.  If it is the latter, where 
the shifter is slipping, then that can only happen in one direction, 
wandering to a smaller cog, because it is the spring in the derailer 
winning a tug-of-war with the friction in the shifter.  

If it is user error, you could test it by switching to index.  Once you've 
got indexing adjusted right, you can't put the shifter in an intermediate 
position.  Of course you have to get it adjusted right which means getting 
the cable tension right.

If it is the shifter slipping, you can eliminate slipping by switching to 
index.  Or you can snug up the friction part by tightening the screw that 
holds the shifter in place. Just a little bit.  You should be able to feel 
the difference when you shift.  Don't abuse it and really overtighten it.  

Best of luck.  For what it's worth, many people find 9-speed is really 
sensitive to perfect friction shifting.  Some say it's no problem, others 
say it's always a problem.  Some have mixed results.  

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 5:22:38 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:

 Here's the deal: I've adjusted my derailers often but I can't get the rear 
 shifting right on my Hilsen. I have DuraAce bar ends which I've been using 
 in friction mode for about a year and a half. I have a brand new rear 
 cassette, 9-speed, brand new chain and chain rings. I use Sheldon's method 
 when setting things up. I shift to the highest gear (when the cable is 
 loosest) with the cable disconnected. I pull the cable until it is just 
 snug, then tighten the bolt. I leave about 1 available turn on each barrel 
 adjuster (there are two for the rear cable) to loosen the cable if need be, 
 which leaves the much more room for the barrel adjusters to tighten it. I 
 can't seem to get the shifting to stay still in the lowest 3 gears. It 
 skips back and forth. It will be ok if there's not too much of a load on 
 the pedals but it wants to wander when I'm climbing. This is the case in 
 all three chainrings. What gives?!? I keep tightening the barrel adjusters 
 1/2 turn at a time and can't seem to get it right. I loosen and that's no 
 help either. When I go to the very lowest gear (requiring the most cable 
 tension) it stays in place fine. So what do you all think, is the cable too 
 tight or too loose?

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