[RBW] FS: Merino wool, cashmere, leather platform cycling shoes

[Eric Marth]

Hi all, a few things for sale. Please respond off list. Payment via PayPal 
Friends and/or Family. Prices do not include actual shipping to you. 

Thanks for having a look! 

Pictures are here 


01. Midweight 100% merino button collar turtleneck — $10
Charcoal heather. From Banana Republic, nice medium weight for riding. 
Would be good with a wool baselayer beneath. Just a touch small for me in 
overall length. I wish it fit, nice traditional (Bobbish) vibe. Labelled a 
small. Plenty of stretch. Measures 18" pit to pit and 25" from top over 
shoulder to bottom hem. Reinforced patches on elbows, no issues. 

02. Crewneck 100% cashmere sweater — $10
Charcoal heather. Moth holes *abound! *A nice pre-abused layer for you for 
the softest, most luxurious natural fiber insulation (with holes). More 
holes than you can see, zoom in for more. Labeled a medium. Kirkland *Signature 
*(that's Costco). Pit to pit is 22", overall length is 27". 

03. Icebreaker merino blend baselayer — $10
A dark steel blue baselayer. The labels are faded, can't read the material 
content. But this feels like mostly merino wool plus some nylon/polyester. 
It's labelled a small. Pit to pit is 20", overall length is 25". No holes 
or issues I can detect. 

04. Cycleur de Luxe shoes — $20
Brown leather shoes from Belgian company Cycleur de Luxe. Made in Portugal, 
labeled a size 45. I would say, imprecisely, these fit like an 11 in US 
mens sizing. I'm happy to provide detailed measurements, just let me know 
what you're looking for. 

Flat sole. No dropped seams or stitches. Some wear and patina as pictured. 
Please note the wear of the heel of the sole, typical of both shoes. These 
show an outline for cleats but that's an affectation. Simple leather shoes 
with a flat sole if you dig that sort of thing. 

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[RBW] Re: Video: Vintage lugged steel mixte restoration

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Paul! I do enjoy having a bit of organization going on, it works in 
my favor. I am getting to the point where I need to think about some 
further infrastructure and potentially building out some more wall space 
for shelving and storage. 

Your Nishiki sounds fun. I'm glad I didn't run into any sizing problems 
with this project, there were enough problems of other kinds to contend 
with. 

Mel does enjoy the bike, it's a nice change from the Trek Pure 3-speed she 
had before which was just fine but a little hefty, a little difficult to 
push up hills and maneuver in general. 

Jim — I appreciate it! Thanks for watchin' 

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 12:21:18 AM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> That was such a great, calming video, fantastic build, beautiful bike. 
> Thanks Eric. 
>
> On Sunday, October 23, 2022 at 8:10:00 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Last fall my partner inherited an old bike. It's an SR frame that her dad 
>> purchased for her mom brand new in San Diego in 1987. It was over-geared, 
>> set up with narrow tires on 27" wheels and needed a few more changes to 
>> make it more comfortable and practical. I set out for nice wide gearing, 
>> bars with more sweep back and maxing out the clearance for plump 38mm 
>> tires. 
>>
>> The build video is up here , detailing all 
>> of the changes along the way. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> [image: SR1.jpg]
>>
>> [image: SR5.jpg]
>>
>> [image: SR7.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sharing Your Fall Foliage Fotos 2022

[Eric Marth]

Beauty! Thanks you all for sharing these pics

On Monday, October 24, 2022 at 8:28:24 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:

> My rebel non drive side shot
>
> Eric
> Dublin OH
>
> On Sunday, October 23, 2022, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> Some pics from this past week’s rides:
>> [image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:22 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>> From today.
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:46 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to Leah for sharing those nice fall Platy pics. I thought it'd be 
>> fun if we all had a place to share some nice fall pics. Here are a few of 
>> mine from this weekend. 
>>
>>
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Re: Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Eric Marth]

Apologies for the double post, great looking build as usual, Jason! 

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 9:10:37 AM UTC-4 jasonz...@gmail.com wrote:

> Sure is!  I'm actually working on a different cockpit area, Shimano bb, 
> possibly a headset change out, and seatpost/saddle combo to bring the price 
> down.  It's too overbuilt for a simpleone, and I've out priced it with all 
> the fancy bits.  It really needed new life pumped into it with the paint, 
> guess I overstoked myself with the build.  I just purchased a hunqapillar 
> and quickbeam so the SO needs to go as baby #5 is due any day now and my 
> n+1 is 1 too heavy...
>
> I should have a more reasonable complete built up by next week.  FYI the 
> light and rack are not included :)
>
> And as mentioned in my FS post, yes I'm in Omaha 
>
> cheers, 
>
> Jason
>
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:51:41 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Isn't this the same bike posted by  Jason Zakaras? 
>>
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 7:46:37 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Simple One 
>>> 56cm 
>>> Location unclear 
>>> Sans wheelset: $1,500
>>> Frame: $900 
>>> Complete: ??
>>>
>>> A fancy and clean build: Paul flip-flop, SP dyno hub and Edeluxe, Herse 
>>> crank, Paul brakes, Campy headset and more. 
>>>
>>> Crust Trader: https://crustbikes.com/a/shopicial/topics/142777
>>>
>>> [image: d38e3eb2cfbcd304d65a994c_h.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 17, 2022 at 1:58:20 PM UTC-4 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Saw this on Craigslist 
 
  
 last week, but the owner didn't want to ship it to me. He now posted it on 
 Paceline, too.
 Someone should go buy this and then sell it to me! Ha. Seems like a 
 good price, but I'm not sure about the seat post.
 https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=288265

 Cheers,
 Matt
 On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 10:52:37 AM UTC-5 Huston wrote:

> Hunqapillar: 58cm; modified with disc brakes
> Vermont
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/225199291886
>
> --Huston
> Lexington, KY
> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 9:15:54 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Liz continues to hook up the 58cm frames in the DC market... even 
>> when they're listed as 60cm frames! (Like the Hillborne I got last year) 
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:51:20 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking 58cm SimpleOne for sale in Washington, DC!
>>>
>>> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/7544082611.html
>>>
>>> -- Liz
>>> Washington, DC
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 7:02:26 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sam Hillborne F/F/HS
 62cm, double top tube
 $1,000
 Havre de Grace, MD


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 [image: 309111465_5068415423263209_7180659657528188289_n.jpg]

 On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 1:10:10 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams 
 wrote:

> Clem L
> 59cm
> $1350
> Napa, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-rivendell-clem-59-cm/7543048146.html
>
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Re: [RBW] How to bond plastic knob to metal screw?

[Eric Marth]

I'd try something like red Loctite first. Easy to find, easy to apply. 

If that doesn't work you might try looking for a more robust replacement 
thread-on knob that has a set screw built in. Find our the pitch of your 
metal thread and check out McMaster-Carr for "threaded hole knobs." 

On Friday, October 14, 2022 at 8:24:49 AM UTC-4 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I do have the locknut, but it doesn't help. It keeps the knob from turning 
> clockwise once it's snug against it, but counter-clockwise (the unscrewing 
> action) doesn't work.
>
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 1:31 AM Garth  wrote:
>
>> My first question then is "how was the knob attached to begin with from 
>> the factory ?" 
>> According to the photos, that style of knob was used on the TS-2, this is 
>> yours yes ? (Sorry I don't know your name as it was not included)
>>
>> So, ever inquisitive, whenever it comes to parts, I always refer to 
>> original parts documents. According the stock photos and parts pdf, *there 
>> should have been a locknut for the knob to begin with*.  
>> https://www.parktool.com/assets/doc/product/TS-2_instructions.pdf
>>
>> You may have a suitable nut on hand as Park likely uses common SAE 
>> threading. If not you could contact Park and maybe they'll send you one or 
>> just go to the local hardware store. 
>>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 13, 2022 at 11:02:48 PM UTC-4 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, rereading I see now that you're actually trying to get the new knob 
>>> to stay put. What if you used that same locknut idea, just with one nut 
>>> pushing against the back of the knob? That would probably hold it on quite 
>>> securely.
>>>
>>> Le jeu. 13 oct. 2022 à 21:00, Josiah Anderson  a 
>>> écrit :
>>>
 The goal is to remove that threaded rod, right? I would try to find two 
 nuts that fit on there and lock them together, like you would on a hub 
 axle, and just use those to turn it. Alternatively you could wrap it in 
 something soft (bar tape?) and turn it with vise grips or something. I 
 don't think the broken plastic knob necessarily has to be involved in this 
 process, unless I'm missing something, which is very possible.

 Josiah
 Missoula, MT 

 Le jeu. 13 oct. 2022 à 20:53, Piaw Na  a écrit :

> I broke the plastic knob on my truing stand (see attached photo). I 
> have a replacement knob from Park, but am discovering that just threading 
> it on doesn't work --- when I need to turn the shaft counter-clockwise it 
> comes off the shaft instead of turning it. I've already tried red and 
> blue 
> loctite and those don't work on metal/plastic interfaces. Should I try 
> epoxy next?
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Re: Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

[Eric Marth]

Liz continues to hook up the 58cm frames in the DC market... even when 
they're listed as 60cm frames! (Like the Hillborne I got last year) 

On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 6:51:20 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

> Nice looking 58cm SimpleOne for sale in Washington, DC!
>
> https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/7544082611.html
>
> -- Liz
> Washington, DC
>
> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 7:02:26 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS
>> 62cm, double top tube
>> $1,000
>> Havre de Grace, MD
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659471725439195/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post
>>
>> [image: 309111465_5068415423263209_7180659657528188289_n.jpg]
>>
>> On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 1:10:10 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Clem L
>>> 59cm
>>> $1350
>>> Napa, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-rivendell-clem-59-cm/7543048146.html
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Your cyclist vs. motorist war/horror stories

[Eric Marth]

gt; moving that way so I swerved to the traffic side and avoided being hit.
>>>
>>> Another rear view mirror save. I caught a motor home approaching and saw 
>>> in my mirror that his steps were still down and coming right at me. I moved 
>>> over and avoided getting clipped by them and pointed out to the driver they 
>>> were not retracted.
>>>
>>> I can’t recall any deliberately aggressive assaults. I do have a lot of 
>>> stupid moves done around me but I know what to look for and am always able 
>>> to predict what drivers will do. I confront a lot of people but it’s almost 
>>> never worthwhile. Cell phone usage/distracted driving is becoming more of 
>>> an issue and that is something I watch out for. Almost nobody stops for 
>>> stop signs anymore either and red light are not always obeyed these days.
>>>
>>> Robert Tilley
>>> San Diego, CA
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:41 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> *First of all I'd like to note that starting this thread might not be 
>>> a great idea. But perhaps it would be a way for us to share some 
>>> experiences, vent or commiserate. *
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I think a lot of us have been there. We've had a weird, scary, 
>>> too-close-for-comfort interaction with a motorist. It could be due to 
>>> driver inattention or downright overt aggression. It could have been your 
>>> fault or no fault of your own. Do you have a riding story involving a 
>>> motorist you'd like to share? 
>>>
>>> I live in Fredericksburg, VA, a small city built on a grid. We have an 
>>> historic district here, many streets are narrow with one-way traffic. There 
>>> are a few two-lane arteries designed to move cars. Posted speeds are 25 mph 
>>> (I always drive slower and leave my truck in 2nd gear). People drive like 
>>> maniacs on certain residential streets, sometimes reaching 50mph. I often 
>>> wish for more traffic calming infrastructure, crosswalks, speed tables and 
>>> the like. 
>>>
>>> In March 2021 I was riding my bike to the bike shop, about a 1.5 mile 
>>> trip. I was heading down a one-way street through a residential 
>>> neighborhood with street parking on the right and long, grassy, landscaped 
>>> park on the left. I was riding to the right side of the street. This 
>>> section of road has one lane and it is unusually wide. There is room for 
>>> someone to comfortably pass a cyclist. 
>>>
>>> Someone honked their horn at me but not in the "Hi, heads up, I'm about 
>>> to pass you please and thanks" sort of way but the "Get the fork off the 
>>> road!" kind of way. It was startling. I responded by taking the lane, which 
>>> is legal for cyclists in Virginia. I rode dead center in the middle of the 
>>> lane. I hoisted a one-finger salute and carried on riding. I rode in the 
>>> middle of the lane for approximately 100 feet before making a turn. 
>>>
>>> Yes, this was an escalation. And it was a bad decision. I don't think 
>>> I'm alone in feeling frustrated by displays of impatience and aggression 
>>> from drivers and feel that I have certain rights as a human person to ride 
>>> safely. It is sometimes difficult not to react in the moment. Motorists 
>>> might be not only impatient but totally deranged. Road rage is real. And 
>>> drivers are behind the wheel of a vehicle that is easily weaponized. With 
>>> just a feather of the gas pedal or a slight turn of the wheel they can 
>>> inflict irrevocable damage to a cyclist. 
>>>
>>> The driver responded to my salute by getting within a few feet of my 
>>> back wheel. When I  made a turn to carry on to the bike shop, they 
>>> followed. I could hear them revving their engine behind me and feathering 
>>> the gas to get close to my back wheel but not quite hit me. I continued to 
>>> ride in the middle of the road. 
>>>
>>> I heard something hit the street next to me. It was an unopened aluminum 
>>> can of a carbonated beverage (I didn't go back to check out whether it was 
>>> soda, beer or seltzer). Acknowledging the projectile I decided I had to 
>>> bail and get up on the sidewalk or somehow turn around to where the car 
>>> could not get to me. 
>>>
>>> As soon as I moved to the side to take a driveway apron up onto the 
>>> sidewalk the car passed me, then go

[RBW] Re: New Fork Paint Options!

[Eric Marth]

And, few more things: 

• Nice color replacement job here! 

• If you re-paint are you going to skip re-applying new Appaloosa decals? 

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 7:27:36 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi Matthew — I remember that you were looking *very hard* for a double 
> top tube Appaloosa. I'm glad you could find one. What's the story, if there 
> is one? Never saw a post about you tracking one down. 
>
> I love that golden mustard color and my vote is to match it if you can. I 
> do appreciate a mis-matched fork from time to time, can be groovy, 
> immediately conveys there's a story there, but I am not feeling the mustard 
> and blue. 
>
> On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 7:12:51 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> If it was me and I liked the caramel brown frame color, I'd save the red 
>> for a next frame and have the fork painted to match.
>>
>> I'd rather not tear down a bike unless absolutely necessary. Keeping it 
>> simple. 
>>
>> Like hey, some times I'm hungry but not so hungry that I want or need to 
>> make a complete meal. Just a little bit of somethin' somethin' will do. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Fork Paint Options!

[Eric Marth]

Hi Matthew — I remember that you were looking *very hard* for a double top 
tube Appaloosa. I'm glad you could find one. What's the story, if there is 
one? Never saw a post about you tracking one down. 

I love that golden mustard color and my vote is to match it if you can. I 
do appreciate a mis-matched fork from time to time, can be groovy, 
immediately conveys there's a story there, but I am not feeling the mustard 
and blue. 

On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 7:12:51 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> If it was me and I liked the caramel brown frame color, I'd save the red 
> for a next frame and have the fork painted to match.
>
> I'd rather not tear down a bike unless absolutely necessary. Keeping it 
> simple. 
>
> Like hey, some times I'm hungry but not so hungry that I want or need to 
> make a complete meal. Just a little bit of somethin' somethin' will do. 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Fork Crack!

[Eric Marth]

I'm with others on the thread, contact Riv. Call and then send these pics 
over to them and see what they say. They probably have a replacement fork 
they can send you but it might not match the mustard. 

On Tuesday, October 4, 2022 at 4:17:17 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> I had a tandem fork repaired where the crown had cracked. The builder (not 
> the original builder of the tandem) heated the crown enough so that he 
> could remove the steerer and fork blades, cleaned them up, and fitted a new 
> fork crown.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo 2022

[Eric Marth]

Joe — I went to PBE for the first time last year. Not sure I'll make it 
this year. There are lots of vendors displaying all kinds of cycling 
related stuff: bike makers of all kinds, bag and luggage makers, tool 
makers and anything else you can think of. There are food, beer and coffee 
vendors as well. 

Russ's video from PBE a few years ago 
 gives a pretty good idea of 
the flow of things. 

I found it helpful to do a quick surface walk around all the booths and 
displays without stopping, then returning to check out booths that caught 
my attention. There is no end of stuff to dive into and people to chat 
with. 

Things I'd check out this year: Rivendell, Paul Component, King Cage, 
Silca, Chapman Cycles, Fat Chance, Sal's Bikes, Jubilee Mfg, Breadwinner, 
Merry Sales, White Ind, Velocity, Sinewave. Whoever has good decaf 
espresso. Always cool to check in with yr fave brands because they often 
have custom swag. 

I didn't make it to any of the talks but there are always a few I wish I 
had time for. 

The bike valet is fun and you'll see lots of great bikes and nice people 
who have some overlapping interests. On my way there I got several shout 
outs for my Appaloosa from strangers passing by. Plus, the people you might 
run into from this here forum! 

A few things that were fun last year: 

Riv — James, Vince and Will were there with three demo bikes. Small booth, 
no frills, great to meet them and to see a few frames I hadn't seen in real 
life. 

Analog/Tanglefoot — An elaborate setup with a cast iron wood stove, lots of 
antiques, tree branches, oil lanterns and old albumen print photographs to 
set the mood. Then a few Tumbleweed demo bikes, tons of their custom 
anodized parts (clamps, ferrules, Nitto racks, seatposts, etc.). Stickers, 
hats, coozies. Other stuff I'm forgetting! 

VAR tools — Coool French tool maker, straightforward display. 

Crust and Casa Verde — A few demo bikes, lots of their MUSA clothing, maybe 
some bars and pedals and stuff. Their booth was pretty big. 

Ron's Bikes — Ron brought a lot of his own bikes and had them on display 
along with waxed bags, caps, bandanas and Ultradynamico tires. 

Champman Cycles — Really fun to see Brian Chapman's work in person, just 
incredible. 

Cobra Frame building — Joe has a very sick frame building shop and 
manufactures frame building jigs and equipment. 

Wahoo / Zwift?? — There was a big display of stationary trainers set up 
with virtual reality screens for at-home riding. Not my thing at all, they 
clearly spent the most money for the primo spots but a nice reminder that 
"Hey, you are at a Bicycle Expo! Witness the future!" 

I was with a friend who is not obsessed with bikes so my trip was shorter 
than I would have liked. 
On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:59:50 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> With the disclaimer that the chances of me making it to this shindig are 
> very low - it's all the way across the country and I hate flying, I don't 
> know how the catsitter thing would work, I'm borderline agoraphobic..the 
> list goes on! - what exactly IS a bike expo? What happens there? 
>
> Joe "so many questions" Bernard 
>
> On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 5:03:22 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
>
>> Oct 29 and 30, downtown Philadelphia, easily accessible by car, Septa, NJ 
>> Transit, Amtrak, Greyhound, etc.,  and bike!  They also have free valet 
>> bike parking inside. 
>>
>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Thanks so much, Pam :) 

I'm up in Virginia, about an hour north of Richmond, but riding further 
west. 

I used to have some fam down in Charlotte but they've moved. If I'm ever 
down that way I'll drop a line!

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 2:19:50 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Great ride report.  Leaving for the Cycle NC Mountains to Coast ride, 
> which has been cut down to 5 days from 7, on Sun.  I wasn't looking forward 
> to the climbs.  Maybe it's working out for the best.  I'm in Charlotte and 
> would be up for a ride anytime.  Where are you?  I'm on Warm Showers if you 
> 'd like to ride to/from here.
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 8:02:18 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Keith. 
>>
>> Virginia humidity, like a lot of the East and the South, can be 
>> oppressive for months on end. Wonderful out here in October and April. This 
>> September has been far less humid than what I'm used to, lots of nice days 
>> earlier than normal. 
>>
>> I have more trouble with mosquitoes than ticks! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 1:57:52 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Great report.
>>> Every time I see your photos of Virginia I can't figure out why 
>>> *everyone* doesn't live there.
>>> Is it the humidity? Ticks? 
>>> Beautiful stuff!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a bunch, Chris. Encouraging anyone to get out and ride is quite 
 the compliment!

 On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:08:49 PM UTC-4 chris@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Oh wow, great report, Eric! Thanks for sharing it. I'm with everyone 
> else when I say it made me want to hop on the bike and go for a long one.
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that 
>> morning :) 
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and 
>>> non-hooded), and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to 
>>> be 
>>> one of the best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever 
>>> owned. 
>>> That said, I cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for 
>>> very 
>>> long... even in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes 
>>> unbearable. To me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking 
>>> warmth 
>>> layer for general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. 
>>> Usually 
>>> that over a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I 
>>> always have one with me on outdoor activities October through April 
>>> (Kentucky weather), but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have 
 stopped to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to 
 share 
 with the group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from 
 stopping. 

 J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping 
 you warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your 
 comment I'm 
 now reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 

 On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one 
> state over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you 
> on a 
> ride. I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. 
> It's 
> not great for physical activities. 
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 
> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Blue Ridge ramble
>> 23 September 2022
>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>
>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras 
>> riddled with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been 
>> looking 
>> for a way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. 
>> Unfortunately getting out to the mountains relative to where I live 
>> requires at least three hours of driving. That creates enough 
>> friction that 
>> I can’t manage it every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding 
>> shape I’d 
>> be in with easy mountain access. 
>>
>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps 
>> looking for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding 
>> highways and roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any 
>> confirmation 
>> that certain roads connected t

[RBW] Re: Yves Gomez – mustardified

[Eric Marth]

Fab color, reminds me of Devin's curry RTP build. 

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:19:24 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Looks great! I didn't realize Franklin Frames was still around, good to 
> know.
>
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 1:32:42 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Were you compensated for the damage (presumably by the shipper)  well 
>> enough to pay for the frame repair and re-paint?
>> Looks great now, BTW.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 11:47:03 AM UTC-5 Max S wrote:
>>
>>> This here bicycle arrived damaged in shipping, and off it went to Jack 
>>> Trumbull at Franklin Frame in OH to get the "top" tube and a couple of 
>>> other things repaired. The damage was extensive enough that the frame 
>>> needed to be repainted, so we went after a Clem mustardish color. Props to 
>>> Jack for great work. 
>>>
>>> - Max "who among us wasn't damaged in shipping?" in A2 
>>>
>>> [image: Yves Gomez mustard downtube.jpeg][image: Yves Gomez mustard 
>>> driveside.jpeg][image: Yves Gomez mustard headtube.jpeg][image: Yves 
>>> Gomez mustard seat lug.jpeg][image: Yves Gomez mustard seat tube.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Maxway catalog

[Eric Marth]

[image: Y21T02-frame.jpg]

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 7:14:44 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Is this a production Platy in Artificial Leah Raspberry under a different 
> badge? 
>
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:06:30 AM UTC-4 M Talley wrote:
>
>> Long looking chain stays tho.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 9:24:10 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.maxway-cycles.com/Y21T02-Trekking-Frame.html
>>>
>>> Platypus but not
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Maxway catalog

[Eric Marth]

Is this a production Platy in Artificial Leah Raspberry under a different 
badge? 

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 2:06:30 AM UTC-4 M Talley wrote:

> Long looking chain stays tho.
>
> On Saturday, October 1, 2022 at 9:24:10 AM UTC-4 Igor wrote:
>
>> https://www.maxway-cycles.com/Y21T02-Trekking-Frame.html
>>
>> Platypus but not
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Nice one, Pancake. Dang, those mechs are wild. Looks like the smallest 
pulley wheel isn't engaged in this position?

On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 10:26:37 AM UTC-4 Pancake wrote:

> [image: D7524129-0A85-4CDF-8977-5CB6316AF1EA.jpeg]Built up a Nishiki Bel 
> Air for my dad as a grocery getter … including the triple pulley read 
> derailer:
>
> On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:
>
>> [image: SunTour 3 pulley system.jpg]
>>
>> A few months ago I saw a SunTour XC triple pulley RD for the first time. 
>> Pictured 
>> here. It was on an old mountain bike that hangs high on a wall in a DC 
>> bike shop. I was confused and intrigued. The extremely ornery, loud, and 
>> hilarious shop foreman, who was helping a customer, noticed me staring at 
>> it. He said, “Cool, huh?” 
>>
>> I nodded and pointed to the XC. “It has three….?” 
>>
>> Shouting over the customer the mechanic said: “Exactly, bro. Three. A 
>> triple. It’s wild. That was my daily ride since forever. But you see the 
>> seat tube? Some asshole took a crowbar to the lock and crushed it. Couldn’t 
>> even steal it properly. It’s too far gone to repair. So I hung it for 
>> posterity. And before you ask, no, I will not sell you that derailleur.” 
>> Then he turned back to the customer.  
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:56:36 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> I'd buy one of those cool looking Suntour Rd's any day ! Man I miss 
>>> Suntour stuff.  I have no need or desire for a reverse direction RD though. 
>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 5:46:37 PM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It’s super cool!

 On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:20:03 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Wow, Luke, I've never seen one of those. I had to check out Disraeli 
> Gears 
> for
>  
> more info. 
>
> "So what in heaven’s name is this? SunTour were wrestling with the 
> demands of the new mountain bikes, with their triple chainsets and huge 
> gear capacities. They hated the very long pulley cages, which had limited 
> ground clearance and irritating chain slap - so they invented the ‘3 
> Pulley 
> System’. With one brilliant stroke it gave huge capacity with a 
> relatively 
> short cage. Ground clearance was restored, chain slap minimised.
>
> Fantastic - except for the fact that it looked so weird that, as you 
> cycled by, dogs barked, babies cried and your friends laughed. At you, 
> not 
> with you. Sales were lamentably low."
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 2:14:50 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: 40650634-AA3B-48BE-A3F3-09AC3632AB79.jpeg]
>>
>> I shall most likely be buying this as my friend (Jim of Merry Sales) 
>> is involved, I want to support Riv, and this will officially be the only 
>> good-looking contemporary rd made. That said, I happen to love what I’m 
>> running rn: a three pulley Suntour XC from about 1986.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sending the excerpts, Eric! Super interesting to read 
>>> Grant’s thoughts so early on. That was the seed that led to him to 
>>> the wild idea of designing and then manufacturing his own low normal 
>>> RDs.
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:10:07 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I was reading some Rivendell Readers this weekend and encountered a 
 few mentions of Rapid Rise mechs. Interesting to see Grant's takes 
 when 
 Rapid Rise was new and in production. 

 These are from RR 33 (Fall 2004) and RR 22 (Winter 2001). 

 [image: IMG_2712 2.jpg]

 [image: IMG_2711 2.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Thank you, Keith. 

Virginia humidity, like a lot of the East and the South, can be oppressive 
for months on end. Wonderful out here in October and April. This September 
has been far less humid than what I'm used to, lots of nice days earlier 
than normal. 

I have more trouble with mosquitoes than ticks! 

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 1:57:52 PM UTC-4 Keith P. wrote:

> Great report.
> Every time I see your photos of Virginia I can't figure out why *everyone* 
> doesn't live there.
> Is it the humidity? Ticks? 
> Beautiful stuff!
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 6:22:31 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a bunch, Chris. Encouraging anyone to get out and ride is quite 
>> the compliment!
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:08:49 PM UTC-4 chris@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh wow, great report, Eric! Thanks for sharing it. I'm with everyone 
>>> else when I say it made me want to hop on the bike and go for a long one.
>>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that 
 morning :) 

 On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and 
> non-hooded), and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to 
> be 
> one of the best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever owned. 
> That said, I cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for very 
> long... even in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes 
> unbearable. To me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking 
> warmth 
> layer for general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. 
> Usually 
> that over a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I 
> always have one with me on outdoor activities October through April 
> (Kentucky weather), but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have 
>> stopped to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to 
>> share 
>> with the group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from 
>> stopping. 
>>
>> J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping 
>> you warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment 
>> I'm 
>> now reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>>
>>> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state 
>>> over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a 
>>> ride. 
>>> I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not 
>>> great for physical activities. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 
>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Blue Ridge ramble
 23 September 2022
 82 miles, 8,300 feet

 Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras 
 riddled with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been 
 looking 
 for a way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. 
 Unfortunately getting out to the mountains relative to where I live 
 requires at least three hours of driving. That creates enough friction 
 that 
 I can’t manage it every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape 
 I’d 
 be in with easy mountain access. 

 I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps 
 looking for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding 
 highways and roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any 
 confirmation 
 that certain roads connected to others while remaining passable by 
 bike I 
 felt confident enough to try and make a loop. My original charted 
 course 
 was 125 miles, combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar 
 one. 

 It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and 
 we’ve had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, 
 others 
 in the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride 
 predicted a 
 low of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. 
 This 
 might sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but 
 there was some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts 
 up to 
 28mph I would later find myself freezing. 

 I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists 
 of 

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Thanks a bunch, Chris. Encouraging anyone to get out and ride is quite the 
compliment!

On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:08:49 PM UTC-4 chris@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Oh wow, great report, Eric! Thanks for sharing it. I'm with everyone else 
> when I say it made me want to hop on the bike and go for a long one.
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:13:42 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that 
>> morning :) 
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and non-hooded), 
>>> and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to be one of the 
>>> best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever owned. That said, I 
>>> cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for very long... even 
>>> in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes unbearable. To 
>>> me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking warmth layer for 
>>> general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. Usually that over 
>>> a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I always have 
>>> one with me on outdoor activities October through April (Kentucky weather), 
>>> but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have stopped 
 to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to share with 
 the 
 group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from stopping. 

 J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping you 
 warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment I'm 
 now 
 reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 

 On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state 
> over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a ride. 
> I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not 
> great for physical activities. 
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Blue Ridge ramble
>> 23 September 2022
>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>
>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras riddled 
>> with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been looking for 
>> a 
>> way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. Unfortunately 
>> getting out to the mountains relative to where I live requires at least 
>> three hours of driving. That creates enough friction that I can’t manage 
>> it 
>> every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape I’d be in with easy 
>> mountain access. 
>>
>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps 
>> looking for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding 
>> highways and roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any 
>> confirmation 
>> that certain roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike 
>> I 
>> felt confident enough to try and make a loop. My original charted course 
>> was 125 miles, combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 
>>
>> It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and 
>> we’ve had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, 
>> others 
>> in the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride predicted 
>> a 
>> low of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. 
>> This 
>> might sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but 
>> there was some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts up 
>> to 
>> 28mph I would later find myself freezing. 
>>
>> I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of 
>> what to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the 
>> route 
>> but I didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I 
>> brought 
>> along more than I needed. 
>>
>> I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 
>>
>> For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate 
>> bar; a blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut 
>> butter, 
>> honey, coconut, salt and banana sandwich with shaved chocolate; and a 
>> stainless container with a handful of salad greens, half an avocado, a 
>> soft 
>> boiled egg, walnuts, a carrot and a tin of mackerel. 
>>
>> Gear: A bag with spare front and rear lights, a power pack for 
>> lights, phone and GPS. A spare tire (I’m still getting comfortable 
>> running 
>> my RH extralights). Hand sanit

[RBW] Re: Los Angeles Ride Saturday October 1st

[Eric Marth]

Ben, I'm in Virginia but this sounds like a lot of fun. Hope y'all have a 
good time out there. 

On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:33:53 PM UTC-4 velomann wrote:

> I have no idea if your ride could be synced with the other LA event, But 
> Saturday, October 1st is International Coffee Day and Ride With GPS is 
> coordinating a number of Coffee Outside rides (with coffee-themed prizes) 
> in 20 cities, including LA. Link is here: 
> https://www.rwgpscoffeeoutside.com/  including interactive map and RSVP 
> sign-up. 
> I designed and am helping lead the Portland ride - so for anyone in PDX 
> area reading this, we're meeting at Laurelhurst Park near the duck pond at 
> 8, and riding to Luuwit View Park for coffee at (approximately) 9AM. 
> Multiple Rivs guaranteed in attendance.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 5:17:27 PM UTC-7 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Riv List. I often plan rides for my non-racing bike friends. Many 
>> of them are Riv riders and a few even post here. This Saturday I"m doing a 
>> fun, casual ride around L.A. to eat donuts, talk music, and nerd out on 
>> bicycles. The description I posted to my friends is below. Thanks!
>>
>> --
>>
>> I love donuts. I love bikes. Let's do both! I've planned a mostly flat, 
>> casual ride, but there are a couple of little climbs thrown in because it's 
>> L.A. and you can't avoid it.
>>
>> Saturday October 1st. 9:00 am.
>> Ms. Donut.
>> 1353 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90026
>>
>> Meet up at Ms. Donut for the first snack.
>> We then ride to the river path (first climb to get there) and stop by La 
>> Colombe if anyone wants good coffee.
>> After that it's up to Eagle Rock to Colorado Donut.
>> Next is a sharp climb, a fast descent, and a stop at Donut Friend for any 
>> vegan needs.
>> Then a cruise AROUND Mt. Washington (not over), through Chinatown, and 
>> landing at Donut Man (or whatever else you want) at Grand Central Market.
>> Then back to the start.
>>
>> I'm going to promote this ride to the Rivendell owner's list. Really, 
>> ride any bike you want and wear whatever you want. All are welcome. Still, 
>> if you are fortunate enough to own more than one bike, I encourage riding 
>> your steel frame, flat pedal, easy-going commuter bike.
>>
>> A few pieces of advice.
>>
>>- Parking can be annoying if you plan to drive to the ride. You're 
>>welcome to meet at my place at 8:30 and ride down with me. Text me for 
>>details if you need them. 
>>- There is also no bathroom at the start. There's a McDonald's across 
>>the street, though. 
>>- It's probably a good idea to bring a lock on this ride. 
>>- At least one donut shop is Cash Only.
>>
>> Strava Event: https://www.strava.com/clubs/303280/group_events/1251872
>> Strava Route: https://www.strava.com/routes/3009362240178879004
>>
>> See you Saturday!
>> Ben
>> 510-543-6407 <(510)%20543-6407>   
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Wow, Luke, I've never seen one of those. I had to check out Disraeli Gears 
for
 
more info. 

"So what in heaven’s name is this? SunTour were wrestling with the demands 
of the new mountain bikes, with their triple chainsets and huge gear 
capacities. They hated the very long pulley cages, which had limited ground 
clearance and irritating chain slap - so they invented the ‘3 Pulley 
System’. With one brilliant stroke it gave huge capacity with a relatively 
short cage. Ground clearance was restored, chain slap minimised.

Fantastic - except for the fact that it looked so weird that, as you cycled 
by, dogs barked, babies cried and your friends laughed. At you, not with 
you. Sales were lamentably low."

On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 2:14:50 AM UTC-4 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: 40650634-AA3B-48BE-A3F3-09AC3632AB79.jpeg]
>
> I shall most likely be buying this as my friend (Jim of Merry Sales) is 
> involved, I want to support Riv, and this will officially be the only 
> good-looking contemporary rd made. That said, I happen to love what I’m 
> running rn: a three pulley Suntour XC from about 1986.
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 1:40:59 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sending the excerpts, Eric! Super interesting to read Grant’s 
>> thoughts so early on. That was the seed that led to him to the wild idea 
>> of designing and then manufacturing his own low normal RDs.
>>
>> On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 4:10:07 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was reading some Rivendell Readers this weekend and encountered a few 
>>> mentions of Rapid Rise mechs. Interesting to see Grant's takes when Rapid 
>>> Rise was new and in production. 
>>>
>>> These are from RR 33 (Fall 2004) and RR 22 (Winter 2001). 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2712 2.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2711 2.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Good points, brokebike! I was a bit loopy getting out the door that morning 
:) 

On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 2:34:02 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Re: the Nano Puff, I currently own two jackets (hooded and non-hooded), 
> and the vest. I've long considered the Nano Puff hoodie to be one of the 
> best, most essential pieces of outdoor gear I have ever owned. That said, I 
> cannot ride in one, or do anything strenuous in one for very long... even 
> in sub-freezing temps. I overheat too much and it becomes unbearable. To 
> me, they really shine as a lightweight, windblocking warmth layer for 
> general outdoor use, especially hanging out around camp. Usually that over 
> a merino t-shirt or baselayer is all I need even in winter. I always have 
> one with me on outdoor activities October through April (Kentucky weather), 
> but I just don't wear it when exerting myself.
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:14:47 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have stopped 
>> to take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to share with the 
>> group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from stopping. 
>>
>> J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping you 
>> warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment I'm now 
>> reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>>
>>> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state 
>>> over from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a ride. 
>>> I've have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not 
>>> great for physical activities. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Blue Ridge ramble
 23 September 2022
 82 miles, 8,300 feet

 Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras riddled 
 with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been looking for a 
 way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. Unfortunately 
 getting out to the mountains relative to where I live requires at least 
 three hours of driving. That creates enough friction that I can’t manage 
 it 
 every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape I’d be in with easy 
 mountain access. 

 I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps looking 
 for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding highways and 
 roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any confirmation that certain 
 roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike I felt 
 confident 
 enough to try and make a loop. My original charted course was 125 miles, 
 combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 

 It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and 
 we’ve had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, 
 others 
 in the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride predicted a 
 low of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. This 
 might sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but 
 there was some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts up 
 to 
 28mph I would later find myself freezing. 

 I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of 
 what to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the route 
 but I didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I brought 
 along more than I needed. 

 I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 

 For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate bar; 
 a blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut butter, 
 honey, coconut, salt and banana sandwich with shaved chocolate; and a 
 stainless container with a handful of salad greens, half an avocado, a 
 soft 
 boiled egg, walnuts, a carrot and a tin of mackerel. 

 Gear: A bag with spare front and rear lights, a power pack for lights, 
 phone and GPS. A spare tire (I’m still getting comfortable running my RH 
 extralights). Hand sanitizer, wipes. Two bandanas. Paper map of the area, 
 printed route instructions. Tool kit with Crank Bros multi tool, spare 
 tube, patch kit, tire levers. 

 The weather forecast left me confused. Getting ready at 4:00AM I 
 decided on a wool baselayer and a Patagonia Nano Puff. I wore my torn up 
 Kucharik wool shorts and wool socks. I packed a pair of Defeet glove 
 liners 
 and a linen short sleeve shirt. I wish I’d worn a long-sleeve wool jersey, 
 perhaps paired with a shell.

 My ride started on some gravel roads that had recently been scraped and 
 surfaced which left lots of fluffy dirt th

[RBW] Re: Are Paul brakes worth the money?

[Eric Marth]

Only speaking for myself, here: I love my Paul cantis and moto lites, have 
them currently installed on two Rivs, had them on another bike and, as 
Laing mentioned, pulled them off before I sold it. 

I love that there is a small machine shop in Northern California making 
weird bike parts and I am happy to support them. They are certainly 
expensive. A lot of people will tell you they're downright ugly, I won't go 
that far. I do like the look of the cantis and the "canti lever" brake 
levers. Dig their barrel adjusters, too. 

I believe you can purchase replacement parts for all of their brakes, 
springs, spring adjusters, pivots, o-rings, etc. 

In the past I've sold a set of their thumb shifter mounts and one set of 
touring cantilevers and while I don't have an immediate need or use for 
those I do regret it. 

For more about Paul Comp check out their YouTube channel, lots of vids 
about their shop, installation how-to videos and other funky stuff! 

This video  is about the 
coolant recycling system that Paul installed in the shop which I found 
quite interesting. 
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 3:56:00 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Echoing Bill and Joe, it depends on which criteria are important in your 
> value calculation for a particular set of circumstances. 
>
> I went to great lengths to find (out of production but soon to be back in 
> production) Paul brakes for one of our bikes. It felt appropriate and 
> justifiable, even “necessary”. And they’re great. No regrets. 
>
> In contrast, I was going to install a new set of Paul cantis on another 
> bike but instead, I sold them, telling myself that my relatively cheap 
> Shimano cantis were just fine, and that the Pauls weren’t worth it. So I 
> sold the Paul cantis at a slight loss to lighten my parts hoard. It’s 
> really subjective. 
>
> I chuckle at myself when I consider that I have no problem paying serious 
> money for Rivendell frames (they’re worth it!) yet I sometimes balk heavily 
> at the cost of components. After all, why should I spend, for example, $xxx 
> on a fancy rear derailer when I can buy a $25 Altus that works “98 to 100 
> percent” as well as the fancier ones, according to Grant? Well, I got a 
> fancy RD for the same bike on which I retained the cheaper brakes. 
>
> Ultimately I don’t have a consistent algorithm or a set decision tree to 
> figure these choices out. The Pauls were more than worth it for one Riv, 
> but for another Riv they didn’t seem to be. Kinda whacky of me, and 
> amusing. 
>
> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 2:16:00 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> "Worth it" is of course subjective but I have these brakes on my 
>> Rivendell Custom and they're worth it to me. The feel and power is notably 
>> superior to the Shimano v-brakes I started with, the qr function on the 
>> arms is miles better, the adjusting springs are very easy to fiddle with, 
>> the very slim clamp on the levers stays out of the way of hands and 
>> shifters, I love the slightly industrial look (some folks aren't into it), 
>> and they're made 95 miles from where I'm typing right now. Yes it's a chunk 
>> of cash but they're on a very nice bike I ride almost every day. I'm glad I 
>> did it. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 10:52:35 AM UTC-7 Bill Fulford wrote:
>>
>>> I was recently gifted $500 to Rivendell. My plan was to upgrade my 2007 
>>> Atlantis with Paul brakes and levers. I placed the order only to read later 
>>> that the brakes are sold per wheel. That’s  more than I wanted to spend. So 
>>> before I call Rivendell tomorrow morning to cancel I’m wondering how folks 
>>> feel about these brakes? I would be ordering the linear pull brake with 
>>> love levers. Are they worth it?
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Laing — Thanks for sharing that pic of the RH rear mech. I've seen it 
before but haven't read much about it. Are these supposed to offer great 
shifting, justifying their resurrection? Any chance they shift as well as a 
Suntour Cyclone? I'm sure I wouldn't be down for the cost. I remember the 
80th anniversary bikes being around $14,000. 

I agree that RH makes refined and good-looking parts. While I have no 
complaints about how Paul brakes look I do understand what people mean when 
they say they look CAD-heavy, stamped, unrefined, or as you point out, 
brutalist. I definitely prefer the look of the RH roller straddle cable 
hangers to the Moon Unit. Also agree about the Silver *and * Sugino/Clipper 
cranks, there are definitely better looking cranks out there. 
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:26:08 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> I have only seen the Nivex / Rene Herse derailleur for sale on the limited 
> edition 80th anniversary Rene Herse bicycle that sold out immediately. The 
> Nivex / Rene Herse derailleur mounts to a braze-on in the chainstay. This 
> picture is from Jan's PBP bike:
>
> [image: Rene Herse.JPG]
>
> On Disraeli Gears, they show a Nivex derailleur that clamps to the rear 
> chainstay. This derailleur dates back to 1937 - and some call Grant a 
> Retro-Grouch!
> It was supposedly in production as of April, but subject to supply issues 
> along with everything else. Note that is is a "no normal" derailleur - it 
> has two cables and no spring (other than the pulley cage) - it requires a 
> pulling cable in both directions.
>
> I am kind of partial to Rene Herse stuff, my custom has their tires, 
> crankset, brakes, front cable hanger, headset spacers, and water bottle 
> cage bolts. They pay a lot of attention to the appearance of the component 
> - unlike components such as Paul brakes and Rivendell cranksets, which are 
> kind of brutalist to my eye. But I do not think I will trying the Rene 
> Herse front or rear derailleurs , though.
>
> Laing
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-4 Bill Schairer wrote:
>
>> My mechanical reasoning challenged mind does not get the apparently self 
>> evident "mechanically, logically, intuitively, low-normal/RapidRise 
>> derailers are better…"  If I cared that my shifters both went the same way 
>> to get to a lower gear I would probably go to a reverse pull front 
>> derailleur to achieve that.  I agree, I want my low NOW and my experience 
>> is I get that when I am pulling the derailleur not when the spring is.  To 
>> me, this is why a reverse pull front derailleur on a tandem is sometimes a 
>> solution to having trouble shifting to a granny on a tandem - the springs 
>> just seem to have trouble counteracting any chain tension.  It is easier on 
>> a single to release all the tension so the spring of normal pull front 
>> derailleurs usually handle that shift without too much trouble.  I also 
>> don't buy that low normal didn't take because of racers.  The slant 
>> parallelogram was a big success for Suntour because they actually were so 
>> much better even though the pros weren't using Suntour derailleurs.  I 
>> kinda think that if OM actually was so much better they also would have 
>> succeeded in the market.  I have nothing against them and think it is great 
>> that there are choices to meet various needs or desires, I'm just not 
>> personally moved. 
>>
>>  I still find the Rene Herse rear derailleur the most intriguing of the 
>> small shop derailleurs.  If it could handle a cog larger than what FKT 
>> riders use I might even be tempted to give one a try.  Wait, I thought he 
>> sold those but I can't find them on their website??
>>
>> Bill S 
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:59:39 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, I love the look of those mechs. The Le Tour, the Rally, and the 
>>> new Record. With the drillium it does seem they're harkening back to the 
>>> cages of the Shimano Crane. It almost looks like your picture is from their 
>>> research files! 
>>>
>>> Bill, I think you're right, we'd moan if we missed out. I think I'll get 
>>> one just to have one and to support such an insane project for a company of 
>>> Riv's size to undertake and, hopefully, see through to the end. 
>>>
>>> Were those Paul derailers any good? They look cool but I've never read 
>>> any accounts of how they worked (or didn't). 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 This demographic is the type that will handwring over the price while 
 the part is available, and then bellyache when it is not available 
 anymore, 
 finally bemoaning "if they ever bring it back I would buy two!"  :)

 It's what some people say about Paul rear derailers.  They were what 
 $350?  They/we complained that they were expensive, then complained when 
 they went away, and now you often see comments "I hope Paul reintroduces 
 their 

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Thank you, Junes! On my ride today I was thinking I should have stopped to 
take photos of the road surfaces, could be interesting to share with the 
group. But with all the climbing I was discouraged from stopping. 

J — I forget that synthetic and natural down layers are for keeping you 
warm while you're still (or maybe descending). Reading your comment I'm now 
reminded. DM me and maybe we can connect for a ride :) 

On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 12:58:38 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Great ride report Eric, looks like a lovely time. I'm just one state over 
> from you and would totally make the trip to accompany you on a ride. I've 
> have not been very impressed with my Patagonia Nano Puff. It's not great 
> for physical activities. 
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 2:22:49 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Blue Ridge ramble
>> 23 September 2022
>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>
>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras riddled 
>> with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been looking for a 
>> way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. Unfortunately 
>> getting out to the mountains relative to where I live requires at least 
>> three hours of driving. That creates enough friction that I can’t manage it 
>> every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape I’d be in with easy 
>> mountain access. 
>>
>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps looking 
>> for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding highways and 
>> roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any confirmation that certain 
>> roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike I felt confident 
>> enough to try and make a loop. My original charted course was 125 miles, 
>> combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 
>>
>> It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and we’ve 
>> had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, others in 
>> the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride predicted a low 
>> of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. This might 
>> sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but there was 
>> some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts up to 28mph I 
>> would later find myself freezing. 
>>
>> I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of what 
>> to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the route but I 
>> didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I brought along 
>> more than I needed. 
>>
>> I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 
>>
>> For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate bar; a 
>> blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut butter, honey, 
>> coconut, salt and banana sandwich with shaved chocolate; and a stainless 
>> container with a handful of salad greens, half an avocado, a soft boiled 
>> egg, walnuts, a carrot and a tin of mackerel. 
>>
>> Gear: A bag with spare front and rear lights, a power pack for lights, 
>> phone and GPS. A spare tire (I’m still getting comfortable running my RH 
>> extralights). Hand sanitizer, wipes. Two bandanas. Paper map of the area, 
>> printed route instructions. Tool kit with Crank Bros multi tool, spare 
>> tube, patch kit, tire levers. 
>>
>> The weather forecast left me confused. Getting ready at 4:00AM I decided 
>> on a wool baselayer and a Patagonia Nano Puff. I wore my torn up Kucharik 
>> wool shorts and wool socks. I packed a pair of Defeet glove liners and a 
>> linen short sleeve shirt. I wish I’d worn a long-sleeve wool jersey, 
>> perhaps paired with a shell.
>>
>> My ride started on some gravel roads that had recently been scraped and 
>> surfaced which left lots of fluffy dirt that had me sliding at times. 
>> Perhaps there’s a tradition to scrape roads at the end of summer as I 
>> encountered this problem on gravel roads throughout the ride. My route took 
>> me along a quiet farm lane that follows a stream then onto a dirt road, 
>> with a strip of grass through the middle, with sorghum growing on one side 
>> and soy on the other. I turned onto a highway for a few miles, then into a 
>> neighborhood with many apple orchards, apple packing warehouses and a small 
>> post office. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_2582.jpg]
>>
>> My climbing began on a paved road in the countryside which after several 
>> miles turned to a gravel fire road. 
>>
>> The fire road was a lot of fun and slow going. I used my 26T front ring 
>> and shifted through my cassette as needed, I wasn’t trying for speed but 
>> comfortable climbing. I didn't know what lay ahead and I didn't want to 
>> burn out early. The road was mostly in good shape with nominal sized 
>> gravel, some chunks, some ruts and a few areas where the original mountain 
>> rock came up through the road. I had no trouble with my 44mm Snoqualmie 
>> Pass tires. 
>>
>> The route is wooded a

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Blue Ridge loop

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for reading, Randy and duhbrr :) 

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:42:33 PM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Great ride report and pictures! A beautiful part of the world, to be sure.
> Randy in Wisconsin
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 3:35:46 PM UTC-5 duh...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Love these ride reports you've been doing, please keep up the good work!
>>
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:22:49 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Blue Ridge ramble
>>> 23 September 2022
>>> 82 miles, 8,300 feet
>>>
>>> Taken with Ray Hosler’s accounts of long rides in the Sierras riddled 
>>> with fire roads, trespassing and lots of climbing I’ve been looking for a 
>>> way to attempt something similar in my part of the world. Unfortunately 
>>> getting out to the mountains relative to where I live requires at least 
>>> three hours of driving. That creates enough friction that I can’t manage it 
>>> every weekend. I do wonder what kind of riding shape I’d be in with easy 
>>> mountain access. 
>>>
>>> I’ve been investigating paper maps, Google maps and Strava maps looking 
>>> for alternate routes and roads with an aim towards avoiding highways and 
>>> roads well travelled. While I couldn’t find any confirmation that certain 
>>> roads connected to others while remaining passable by bike I felt confident 
>>> enough to try and make a loop. My original charted course was 125 miles, 
>>> combining a new untested loop with an old, familiar one. 
>>>
>>> It seems that fall is on the way. The humidity has tapered off and we’ve 
>>> had some lovely weather. Some days in the mid 70s and perfect, others in 
>>> the high 80s and still quite nice. The forecast for my ride predicted a low 
>>> of 48º in the morning with temperatures climbing to the mid 60s. This might 
>>> sound just about perfect for a day out with lots of climbing but there was 
>>> some unpleasant wind. With surface winds at 14mph and gusts up to 28mph I 
>>> would later find myself freezing. 
>>>
>>> I prepared for the trip over the course of the week, making lists of 
>>> what to bring along. There are stores and even restaurants along the route 
>>> but I didn’t want to rely on them for all of my food and water. I brought 
>>> along more than I needed. 
>>>
>>> I stuffed my Fab’s Chest with all of the below. 
>>>
>>> For food: A bag of peanut butter pretzel nuggets; an 85% chocolate bar; 
>>> a blend of walnuts, coconut flakes and pumpkin seeds; a peanut butter, 
>>> honey, coconut, salt and banana sandwich with shaved chocolate; and a 
>>> stainless container with a handful of salad greens, half an avocado, a soft 
>>> boiled egg, walnuts, a carrot and a tin of mackerel. 
>>>
>>> Gear: A bag with spare front and rear lights, a power pack for lights, 
>>> phone and GPS. A spare tire (I’m still getting comfortable running my RH 
>>> extralights). Hand sanitizer, wipes. Two bandanas. Paper map of the area, 
>>> printed route instructions. Tool kit with Crank Bros multi tool, spare 
>>> tube, patch kit, tire levers. 
>>>
>>> The weather forecast left me confused. Getting ready at 4:00AM I decided 
>>> on a wool baselayer and a Patagonia Nano Puff. I wore my torn up Kucharik 
>>> wool shorts and wool socks. I packed a pair of Defeet glove liners and a 
>>> linen short sleeve shirt. I wish I’d worn a long-sleeve wool jersey, 
>>> perhaps paired with a shell.
>>>
>>> My ride started on some gravel roads that had recently been scraped and 
>>> surfaced which left lots of fluffy dirt that had me sliding at times. 
>>> Perhaps there’s a tradition to scrape roads at the end of summer as I 
>>> encountered this problem on gravel roads throughout the ride. My route took 
>>> me along a quiet farm lane that follows a stream then onto a dirt road, 
>>> with a strip of grass through the middle, with sorghum growing on one side 
>>> and soy on the other. I turned onto a highway for a few miles, then into a 
>>> neighborhood with many apple orchards, apple packing warehouses and a small 
>>> post office. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2582.jpg]
>>>
>>> My climbing began on a paved road in the countryside which after several 
>>> miles turned to a gravel fire road. 
>>>
>>> The fire road was a lot of fun and slow going. I used my 26T front ring 
>>> and shifted through my cassette as needed, I wasn’t trying for speed but 
>>> comfortable climbing. I didn't know what lay ahead and I didn't want to 
>>> burn out early. The road was mostly in good shape with nominal sized 
>>> gravel, some chunks, some ruts and a few areas where the original mountain 
>>> rock came up through the road. I had no trouble with my 44mm Snoqualmie 
>>> Pass tires. 
>>>
>>> The route is wooded and follows a river. There are charming mossy 
>>> boulders and I can see this place looking like heaven in another month. So 
>>> far, some leaves have fallen but there is not much color in the canopies. 
>>>
>>> [image: 220923 01.jpg]
>>>
>>> Along the climb I passed a few campe

Re: [RBW] Riv Hobson - Zingo cable cutter

[Eric Marth]

Garth, those are some nice cutters there. And I love finding stuff on the 
side of the road and putting it to use! 

I've only accidentally acquired Snap-On stuff in the past by purchasing 
large lots of tools and later found it bundled in there. They make nice 
stuff but outside what I'm willing to spend. 

The wooden-handled-reamer you mention is likely an awl or a "scratch awl." 
I use one for opening cut cable housing, too. 

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:12:59 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Eric, they cut well because it appears they're actually some high 
> fallutin' diagonal cutters, model 388ACF Snap-On.   
>
> https://shop.snapon.com/product/High-Leverage-Diagonal/8%22-VectorEdge-High-Leverage-Diagonal-Cutter-(Red)/388ACF
>
> I often get the types mixed up as it's not something I work with at all, 
> and it seems the names/types get all blurry from one manufacturer to the 
> next. Regardless of the cutter every housing cut I've ever done required 
> some minor finishing to make it flush and friction free inside. The Snap-On 
> just seems to mash it less, not a big deal. but hey ... the tool was a 
> roadside find and I may as well use it. I also use an old wooden handled 
> reamer sorta thing that I've had likely since I was a teenager. It may have 
> been a leather punch or something. It works great for reaming and rotating 
> the spiral housing to get it just right, along with some trusty vintage 
> hand files.
>
> Allen hex key wrenches... sheesh .. .. is it so hard to make a 5mm hex key 
> fit a 5mm socket well ? Apparently so as there are many inaccurate ones. I 
> may have to get a set of the Wex .. 
>
> I bought a Pedro's spoke wrench a while ago, I was surprised how well it 
> fit a spoke nipple compared to the regular black DT. Don't use it if you're 
> in hurry though, it's a precise fit ! Pedro's Chain Checker Plus also is a 
> very good tool, and it has at one end the tool for tightening chainring 
> bolts. It's long overall length means you not only don't scrape your 
> knuckles but you get better leverage. 
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Small Fabio's Chest Bag

[Eric Marth]

Jared, if you haven't, check out the Crust Classified section on their 
website. Lots of Fabs come and go over there and you could post a WTB. 
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 1:21:16 AM UTC-4 duh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Looking for a small Fabio's chest, neutral colors preferred. 
>
> Please respond off list if you have something :)
>
> Jared in SLO 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Laing, I love the look of those mechs. The Le Tour, the Rally, and the new 
Record. With the drillium it does seem they're harkening back to the cages 
of the Shimano Crane. It almost looks like your picture is from their 
research files! 

Bill, I think you're right, we'd moan if we missed out. I think I'll get 
one just to have one and to support such an insane project for a company of 
Riv's size to undertake and, hopefully, see through to the end. 

Were those Paul derailers any good? They look cool but I've never read any 
accounts of how they worked (or didn't). 

On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 11:40:11 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> This demographic is the type that will handwring over the price while the 
> part is available, and then bellyache when it is not available anymore, 
> finally bemoaning "if they ever bring it back I would buy two!"  :)
>
> It's what some people say about Paul rear derailers.  They were what 
> $350?  They/we complained that they were expensive, then complained when 
> they went away, and now you often see comments "I hope Paul reintroduces 
> their RD!"  
>
> Anyway, I'm almost as into Rapid Rise as Grant is, so I bought a bunch of 
> XT M751 when they were being closed out, so I have a lifetime supply.  That 
> said, a bike company in 2022 developing their own rear derailer is kind of 
> an awesome achievement, and I'm proud of Grant and the rest of those who 
> worked on it.  I'd probably buy one even as an artifact of audacity.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 8:18:56 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Probably not, my vintage SunTour stuff is going strong on my existing 
>> fleet, and future bike purchases will almost certainly have contemporary 
>> drivetrains.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA 
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2022, at 7:07 AM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>> I love the Campagnolo inspired textured surface and the Shimano Crane GS 
>> (Schwinn Le Tour GT300) inspired drillium pulley cage. I will buy 
>> one.[image: 
>> Derailleurs (3)s.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>> Laing
>> On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 9:41:55 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> In case anyone missed it, Grant posted some updates 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> on their new derailer.
>>>
>>> Looks like they found another place to have them fabricated (no more 
>>> $350 samples for them) and that retail cost (for us!) will be $175. That's 
>>> about $125 more than I've ever paid for a rear derailer. What do you all 
>>> think? Would you spend the $175 for one of these when you can get a vintage 
>>> Shimano rapid rise on ebay for way less? 
>>>
>>> Image below is latest design. I think they mentioned on instagram that 
>>> the red parts will *not* *be red.* Thank goodness. Give me silver with 
>>> black pulley wheels. If you thought that Shimano 600EX arabesque flourishes 
>>> were too groovy, well, check out the peace sign detail in that pulley cage. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: download.png]
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 5:34:42 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>
 Really hard to make ends meet with a 20% markup. With a 10% or 20% 
 markup, you're more likely to be selling groceries than bikes.

 I would be discouraged too. Working hard and putting lots of resources 
 behind a project you love - only to have it become impossible is really 
 tough to deal with.

 Regards,

 Corwin

 On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 6:14:35 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> Yeah, I read the blog. The $345 would presumably be Riv's wholesale 
> price, right? So... assuming a nominal retail markup of, say, 20%, the 
>  price would be ~$415 for the end user. No idea if there is a standard 
> industry markup, and we know Rivendell marches to their own rhythm. A 10% 
> markup would be ~$380; 30% ~$450. Grant seemed disheartened. I really 
> appreciate his transparency. 
> (Your build videos are great btw Eric.)  
>
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 8:57:56 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Great pics, Ana, and yeah, those Nexaves are quite large! 
>>
>> Did you all read the latest Blahg? Seems the prototypes are crazy 
>> expensive. They'll be CNC machined. Here's Grant's quote from the 
>> fabricators: 
>>
>> "50 pieces. These will be made by CNC machining They will cost 
>> $345.5 USD each,  total $17,275 USD. The cost base on the QTY"
>>
>> More here.  
>> Um,
>>  
>> does it seem like maybe 50 Rivendell customers would pool together and 
>> chunk in a non-refundable $350 towards getting this project moving in 
>> the 
>> (opposite) direction?  
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:24:45 AM UTC-4 Ana Candela wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, and love it!

Re: [RBW] Riv Hobson - Zingo cable cutter

[Eric Marth]

I agree the HZ cable cutters a great for the price. rmrose: I cut with the 
HZ and then crimp with a pair of Knipex diagonal cutters. Not a crimping 
tool, but a cutting tool. With finesse you can get good crimps with 
diagonal cutters, I believe lots of mechanics use them. 

I had a pair of red-handled Amazon wonders and they quickly became trash. I 
could make better cuts with my teeth. 

I love Felco tools, my partner's a gardener and I service her Felcos every 
few months with a complete disassembly, cleaning, greasing and sharpening. 
They also sell replacement bits for every component, washer, blade, handle, 
cog, etc. 

Garth, I'm surprised you're getting good cuts of cables and housing with 
linesman pliers. Having used many nice ones for other types of work I 
wouldn't think the shape of the blades would allow for nice cuts. I agree 
that looking outside of the world of bike-specific tools turns up nice 
stuff. Like Wera stainless hex wrenches and Felco wire cutters. 

And there's this from Jobst Brandt 
on the old 
rec.bicycles.misc: 

"You don't need any special cable housing cutters. Brake cable housing is 
made of coiled wire and can be cut with wire cutters for steel just the 
same as so called cable housing cutters. The idea that the end of the 
housing must be ground flat is an excessive attention to minutia. Cable 
housings have been cut with diagonal cutters effectively for eons with no 
ill effects."
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 6:09:37 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

>
> I found a pair of Snap-On Linesman pliers along the side of the road a 
> couple years ago. I already had some Park cable/housing cutters from the 
> 80's which were nothing to write home about, and some Shimano cutters which 
> weren't much better desite their overpriced tag. The Linesman pliers, 
> certainly not in new condition, put both to shame. Now, anytime I need a 
> certain tool, I check the non-cycling options first as there's a whole lot 
> more variety and better quality/precision. So yes, three cheers for 
> non-cycling branded quality tools ! 
>
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[RBW] Re: The return of Paul Racers

[Eric Marth]

It would seem speaking up to small companies can make a difference! I don't 
currently have a bike that would fit Racers but I was certainly 
disheartened when they went out of production. 

On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:17:10 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Great news.  They must follow this forum.. :-)
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 11:11:19 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul Comp just posted a message on their Instagram that they are putting 
>> the Paul Racers back on their production schedule. They say a few months 
>> out and suggest signing up for a re-stock alert on the product page. 
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0NT4vKyZd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brakes/center-pull-brakes/racer/
>>
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[RBW] The return of Paul Racers

[Eric Marth]

Paul Comp just posted a message on their Instagram that they are putting 
the Paul Racers back on their production schedule. They say a few months 
out and suggest signing up for a re-stock alert on the product page. 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci0NT4vKyZd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brakes/center-pull-brakes/racer/

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Re: [RBW] Atypical Ride on a Riv

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for sharing, Collin, seems like a great time and fun excursions. I 
did an overnight kayak trip once and let's just say I should really hone my 
paddling skills. That was here in Virginia, on the Rapidan and Rappahannock 
rivers. 

On Wednesday, September 21, 2022 at 12:21:52 AM UTC-4 Robert Tilley wrote:

> Nice! I may be able to also something similar here. We do have a river 
> that flows out of the mountains and empties into one of our beaches. Not 
> sure how much would be raftable though.
>
> Reminds me of the story I read a while back. Bike tour with Bromptons and 
> rafts in the UK:
>
> [image: 5873185545_c4bdaedf3e_b.jpg]
>
> A Journey to the End of my Country 
> 
> alastairhumphreys.com 
> 
> 
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 18, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Collin A  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sort-of Ride Report
>
> Most of my rides during the pandemic were the same couple of loops around 
> the American river in Sacramento, which does have some great trails and 
> some not-so-legal singletrack, but gets old if that's all you are doing. I 
> wasn't often able to (or unwilling) to make the 90 min drive to the Bay 
> Area to get a greater variety of riding in - think Mt Tam area, Mt Diablo, 
> Golden Gate Rec area, etc but I did head up to Auburn and truckee when I 
> got the chance and it was on fire or snowed in.
>
> Fast forward a year and I recently picked up a neat little tool to help 
> increase the variety of riding that I can do in a city with a river that 
> runs through it - a packraft! Its a pretty cool thing to be able to bike up 
> to 30 miles and paddle almost back home, or bike 35 miles and paddle into a 
> boat-in campsite (sadly, the mosquito Fire in Foresthill area has closed 
> most of those off for the forseeable future). I've gotten the setup pretty 
> well dialed, so I can load up an S24Os worth of gear plus a raft, paddle, 
> and PFD (I mostly go solo) without the Riv weighing like an absolute tank 
> (its still close to 70 lbs though!). 
>
> The typical route I try to do on the weekends now is to ride from my 
> apartment in Midtown and up to Nimbus dam (or just a little downstream), 
> blow up the raft, strap the bike to it, then paddle about 7-15 miles 
> depending on how I feel and how strong the wind is (wind is much worse on a 
> raft than on a bike). Its a great way to spend the afternoon, and the river 
> almost always changes from day-to-day thanks to drought related water 
> releases and power-requirements (the river is dammed pretty much the whole 
> way, but the last stretch is the USACE Folsom dam and Nimbus diversion).
>
> Anywho, just wanted to share what is fast becoming a more typical ride for 
> me, but definitely a fun and different experience to my typical local ride. 
> With the colder weather setting in, I'll also have to wear something more 
> than swimtrunks and sandals though :(
>
> Some sunny day photos:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/8SjaVxY2ZNV3wJ9v6
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Stormramento
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[RBW] Re: It's my custom

[Eric Marth]

I've got an 11cm, tempted to get a 13.5 but boy are they spendy. And yes, 
incredibly nice. I will also add that they offer a perfect amount of rise 
for a stem caddy which pitches the top of the bag favorably towards the 
rider. 

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 5:17:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> "Did you nab one of the face-platers from the restock?"
>
> Yes indeed. I'd been thinking for a while that the reach with the DirtDrop 
> was a tad short and possibly causing my hand numbness so I jumped when the 
> FacePlaters were restocked. They're pretty and pretty rare, get em while 
> they got em! 
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 4:59:37 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks great as always, Joe. Let us know how the stem swap works out for 
>> you. Did you nab one of the face-platers from the restock? 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:44:57 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, a big difference cuz I think my 54.2 frame correlates to the 55 
>>> Rosco/Platys is they use 700c, I have 650b. That's the thing I'd change if 
>>> I was designing my bike now, I think those big hoops on the Platy look 
>>> amazing and I kinda wish I had them. Although it would make it even longer 
>>> and my bike is already HUGE!  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 8:27:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Thanks James! 

 I think I can compare my custom to the original Platy as they were both 
 in the design process at the same time. They're both road-oriented with 
 v-brakes, I suspect the Platy is a little heavier-tubed because it was 
 built to some imagined rider/stuff weight limit for a production model 
 (one 
 big benefit of custom). The geometry looks similar to me. The Platypus 
 toptube is a bit lower, mine wasn't geared so much to be a true mixte, 
 just 
 lower than a diamond frame. I use a road fork, I think the Platy is 
 beefier 
 and has more tire clearance. Attached is the geo chart Grant sent to Mark 
 Nobilette. 

 As for the Rosco version I'm afraid I just don't know. Sorry! 

 On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 7:01:50 PM UTC-7 James wrote:

> Sweet bike Joe.  Great color and design choice.  I'm curious, how do 
> you think this bike differs from the Rosco Platty, aside from big welds 
> vs 
> lugs?  
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 2:52:37 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Very very nice Joe!
>>
>> It's great to have a forum to share pics of our bikes, our 
>> rides/adventures on them, upgrades to them and all that goes with all 
>> that.
>>
>> Like minded people get it but most of my family and friends just roll 
>> their eyes when I start talking bikes.
>>
>> It's part of the joy of it for me to stop and take pics and then 
>> share with folks that understand.
>>  
>> A cool upgrade, added accessories or other changes on all you folks 
>> bikes are fun to see and it gives me ideas to improve or enhance my own 
>> bikes.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas 
>> (With a crowded garage of 7 bikes last count)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
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Re: [RBW] Savannah recommendations and more?

[Eric Marth]

Awesome, thank you!

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 5:10:42 PM UTC-4 J wrote:

> Eric, I sent you a message on instagram sharing the account of a bike 
> acquaintance in Savannah that should have good actual riding suggestions. 
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 3:34:31 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for the thoughtful recommendations!
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:30:08 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>>> I'll second Tybee Island though it was probably as far back as 2004-2006 
>>> when we visited and not an experience viewed from a cyclist perspective at 
>>> the time.  I was still in my mid-20's and had not yet incorporated cycling 
>>> much more than for occasional fair weather leisure on weekends or sporadic 
>>> undergrad commuting in the immediately preceding years.  My wife and I had 
>>> stopped in Savannah for a few days before or after visiting friends in the 
>>> greater ATL area and it was early Oct., if I recall correctly.  Mrs. Wilkes 
>>> was also highly recommended to us at that time but was unfortunately closed 
>>> whichever days we were around.  We did, however, get to do a kayak tour 
>>> with Savannah Canoe and Kayak somewhere off of Tybee Island.  It was just 
>>> the two of us and the guide, who I believe was the owner(British accented 
>>> gentleman whose name I can no longer recall, unfortunately.)  We never saw 
>>> the brick and mortar shop, just arranged it by phone and met somewhere on 
>>> Tybee Island where we'd enjoy the day on the water, seeing the wildlife, 
>>> learning about the area, etc.   I do remember being told about how the 
>>> nearby Little Tybee Island was in fact bigger in size than Tybee Island.  
>>> Maybe we kayaked from Tybee to Little Tybee and back... maybe it was just 
>>> another uninhabited but nearby barrier island.  Either way, it was an 
>>> enjoyable experience and if ever returning I'd certainly plan to visit 
>>> Tybee again.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Lawrence NJ
>>> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is the TV episode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://iradavidspedalamerica.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone — I'm heading to Savannah for a few days in October. I've 
>>>> never been. We'll be in town for a wedding and pretty busy with wedding 
>>>> stuff but wanted to check in to see if there is good riding or bike shops 
>>>> worth checking out. Haven't yet decided if I'm going to bring a bike but 
>>>> could be swayed. 
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] FS, non Rivendell but fine steel steeds

[Eric Marth]

Quite the list! Can we see a picture of the Weigle, please?

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 7:21:08 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh for Pete's sake it's steel, too. Ok my memory of what Seven Cycles was 
> 22 years ago is completely useless and I shouldn't be posting on Mondays. 
> Clearly! 🤦
>
> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 4:14:50 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This one is not sloped. It does have a long top tube.
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 7:08 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Richard, 
>>
>>
>> The Seven is probably an incorrect seattube size, those usually (always?) 
>> came with a steeply sloped toptube, so 58cm ETT is probably closer to a 
>> 52-53cm actual ST. Also it's titanium, I owned one for a while that was too 
>> small but hoo boy was that a nice ride! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard aka @rideymcbiker on IG
>>
>> On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 3:47:22 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Note: not certain of the exact accuracy of the dimensions given. For 
>>> instance; the Weigle is 55.5 square, center to center by my measure. Happy 
>>> to double check anything.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 19, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought this might be frowned on but I saw the vintage Gitane for 
>>> sale post so here goes.
>>>
>>> A riding buddy of mine passed away almost two years ago and left his 
>>> adult daughters with his stable of bikes to sell. I have the bikes and am 
>>> trying to help them out as they are not local and just are not able to deal 
>>> with it. I will simply list the bikes here with sizes. If anything appeals 
>>> to you lets chat. I have a lot of pics & some historical perspectives to 
>>> share. Here are the bikes.
>>> 1975 California Masi (sold)
>>> 1984 Eddy Merckx Professional, lugged steel and fully pantographed 
>>> Campagnolo. $1,500.00. Beautiful restoration by Peter Weigle.
>>> 2000 Custom Seven Axiom, tigged steel, full Campagnolo 10 speed group 
>>> and shop built wheels. $2,500.00. Spotless, like new condition.
>>> 2015(?) Custom Mark Nobillette fillet brazed with mixed Shimano parts 
>>> (10 speed) and shop built wheels. Barely ridden bicycle.
>>> And finally, a bike I am hesitant to mention because I want it so bad. 
>>> Date unknown J.P. Weigle custom, perfect and repainted at some point by 
>>> Peter. Gorgeous lugs and paint.  Full Campagnolo Record 10 speed (some 
>>> carbon) and shop built wheels with White Industries hubs. $3,500.00.
>>> All prices are suggested and negotiable. Packing is $100.00 per bike by 
>>> local bike shop. They did a great job on the Masi. It arrived safely in 
>>> California, from Toledo, Ohio. Shipping via Bikeflights with extra 
>>> insurance was $185.00.
>>> Please do contact me off list if any of these interest you. I will not 
>>> try to post all of the pics here. I will follow this post up with a single 
>>> pic of a geometry chart. Most are 57-58 size range, the Weigle is slightly 
>>> smaller at 55.5 square c/c. I have ridden each bike and they are really 
>>> good.
>>> Thanks for your consideration.
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Re: [RBW] Savannah recommendations and more?

[Eric Marth]

Thank you all for the thoughtful recommendations!

On Monday, September 19, 2022 at 2:30:08 PM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I'll second Tybee Island though it was probably as far back as 2004-2006 
> when we visited and not an experience viewed from a cyclist perspective at 
> the time.  I was still in my mid-20's and had not yet incorporated cycling 
> much more than for occasional fair weather leisure on weekends or sporadic 
> undergrad commuting in the immediately preceding years.  My wife and I had 
> stopped in Savannah for a few days before or after visiting friends in the 
> greater ATL area and it was early Oct., if I recall correctly.  Mrs. Wilkes 
> was also highly recommended to us at that time but was unfortunately closed 
> whichever days we were around.  We did, however, get to do a kayak tour 
> with Savannah Canoe and Kayak somewhere off of Tybee Island.  It was just 
> the two of us and the guide, who I believe was the owner(British accented 
> gentleman whose name I can no longer recall, unfortunately.)  We never saw 
> the brick and mortar shop, just arranged it by phone and met somewhere on 
> Tybee Island where we'd enjoy the day on the water, seeing the wildlife, 
> learning about the area, etc.   I do remember being told about how the 
> nearby Little Tybee Island was in fact bigger in size than Tybee Island.  
> Maybe we kayaked from Tybee to Little Tybee and back... maybe it was just 
> another uninhabited but nearby barrier island.  Either way, it was an 
> enjoyable experience and if ever returning I'd certainly plan to visit 
> Tybee again.
>
> Brian
> Lawrence NJ
> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here is the TV episode.
>>
>>
>> http://iradavidspedalamerica.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 18, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone — I'm heading to Savannah for a few days in October. I've 
>> never been. We'll be in town for a wedding and pretty busy with wedding 
>> stuff but wanted to check in to see if there is good riding or bike shops 
>> worth checking out. Haven't yet decided if I'm going to bring a bike but 
>> could be swayed. 
>>
>> Thanks! 
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[RBW] Re: It's my custom

[Eric Marth]

Looks great as always, Joe. Let us know how the stem swap works out for 
you. Did you nab one of the face-platers from the restock? 

On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 11:44:57 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Oh, a big difference cuz I think my 54.2 frame correlates to the 55 
> Rosco/Platys is they use 700c, I have 650b. That's the thing I'd change if 
> I was designing my bike now, I think those big hoops on the Platy look 
> amazing and I kinda wish I had them. Although it would make it even longer 
> and my bike is already HUGE!  
>
> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 8:27:57 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Thanks James! 
>>
>> I think I can compare my custom to the original Platy as they were both 
>> in the design process at the same time. They're both road-oriented with 
>> v-brakes, I suspect the Platy is a little heavier-tubed because it was 
>> built to some imagined rider/stuff weight limit for a production model (one 
>> big benefit of custom). The geometry looks similar to me. The Platypus 
>> toptube is a bit lower, mine wasn't geared so much to be a true mixte, just 
>> lower than a diamond frame. I use a road fork, I think the Platy is beefier 
>> and has more tire clearance. Attached is the geo chart Grant sent to Mark 
>> Nobilette. 
>>
>> As for the Rosco version I'm afraid I just don't know. Sorry! 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 7:01:50 PM UTC-7 James wrote:
>>
>>> Sweet bike Joe.  Great color and design choice.  I'm curious, how do you 
>>> think this bike differs from the Rosco Platty, aside from big welds vs 
>>> lugs?  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, September 18, 2022 at 2:52:37 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>>
 Very very nice Joe!

 It's great to have a forum to share pics of our bikes, our 
 rides/adventures on them, upgrades to them and all that goes with all that.

 Like minded people get it but most of my family and friends just roll 
 their eyes when I start talking bikes.

 It's part of the joy of it for me to stop and take pics and then share 
 with folks that understand.
  
 A cool upgrade, added accessories or other changes on all you folks 
 bikes are fun to see and it gives me ideas to improve or enhance my own 
 bikes.

 Paul in Dallas 
 (With a crowded garage of 7 bikes last count)





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[RBW] Savannah recommendations and more?

[Eric Marth]

Hi everyone — I'm heading to Savannah for a few days in October. I've never 
been. We'll be in town for a wedding and pretty busy with wedding stuff but 
wanted to check in to see if there is good riding or bike shops worth 
checking out. Haven't yet decided if I'm going to bring a bike but could be 
swayed. 

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[RBW] Re: Video: Appaloosa build updates

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the time, Johnny, and I appreciate the kind words. 

I do have a few more videos in the queue, Rivs and non-Rivs. 

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:09:12 AM UTC-4 johnny@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Fun videos, I like the casual pace, which seems to match your vibe 
> perfectly. A trick I learned for applying grease to the stem and 
> seat-post... and this is free advice so you get a 100% refund if it doesn't 
> work for you. Apply the grease to the head tube and seat tube, not the 
> seatpost or stem. That way, when you slide the seatpost/stem into place it 
> pushes the grease down, rather than pushing it up. Boom, no cleanup.
>
> We need more videos like this please :)
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 4:09:04 PM UTC-7 shopmonkey 39 wrote:
>
>> Loved it and stoked to see a mention on the Radavist.  Congrats!
>>
>> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 10:59:52 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> "I love that bike, Joe! Let me know if you do go for a stem swap and how 
>>> it works out. Is that the Periscopa I sold you a while back?"
>>>
>>> Thanks Eric! No that's an MT10 DirtDrop I got from Riv, it's a bit 
>>> taller than the Periscopa. Which I may have to stick with a while, I 
>>> discovered last night that the supply situation with tall/long quill stems 
>>> is still super not good! 😣
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 5:28:42 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I love that bike, Joe! Let me know if you do go for a stem swap and how 
 it works out. Is that the Periscopa I sold you a while back? 

 On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 11:50:39 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Eric, I just got back from a short ride and now I'm thinking The Good 
> Doctor may have a point about stem length. My Billies are high on a long 
> TT 
> frame with a short DirtDrop stem, I wonder if the hand numbness is from 
> grips being a little too close. Hmmm 🤔
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 5:29:24 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much, Leah! I have a couple of other Riv build videos you 
>> might like if you haven't seen them, check out my channel. I had to go 
>> really, really far outside of my insurance network just to get a 
>> referral 
>> for Dr. Ron. Healthcare, I tell ya. 
>>
>> I love the Billie bars, they're great. Running them with bar-end 
>> shifters wasn't working great for me as I sometimes did have thigh 
>> interference. That was the only issue. Love the grip position ahead of 
>> the 
>> bars, the shape, the look. If I'm to be honest I really resisted 
>> switching 
>> up the bars but a lot of my bike friends swap and try things out with 
>> abandon so I figured I should just loosen up, already. 
>>
>> The Ortho Bars are fun, they are crazy wide and they have a ton of 
>> flex. At first I wasn't so into them because I thought I'd lost the grip 
>> position "ahead" of the levers and shifters which I use a lot for 
>> climbing 
>> or getting out of the wind. Or sprinting. But after I re-routed the 
>> cables 
>> from the shifters it was all gravy. I've definitely resolved the bar-end 
>> jabs issue. Compared to the Billies I can't say they're necessarily 
>> better, 
>> they're different, they're good. They were made at the Renthal factory, 
>> if 
>> anyone's curious. The new-to-me Suntour Power Thumb shifters are really 
>> great, I love them. They're my first reverse-mounted thumb shifters. 
>>
>> Joe, thanks for the note. I didn't know that mocking up the struts 
>> with a bevel was a thing either but it just sort of dawned on me. I'm 
>> glad 
>> you enjoyed the consultation. I definitely love the Billie bars as well. 
>> I'm sorry to hear about your numbness! and I hope that resolves some how 
>> some way. 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:55:47 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> He used a sliding bevel to mock up the rack struts. I didn't even 
>>> know that was a thing! 
>>>
>>> Dr. Romance was hilarious, I enjoyed that so much. The Ortho Bar is 
>>> interesting but I think I'll stick with my Billies, too. I don't think 
>>> bringing my bars further back and wider would work for me, but I DO 
>>> wish I 
>>> could solve the hand numbness I'm getting now. This is a new and unfun 
>>> malady for me! 😫
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 3:01:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I loved it. A really fun look into the magic (as one who doesn’t 
 work on her bikes, it’s magic to ME) of assembly. What great new 
 upgrades - 
 especially the dyno. 

 How did you get a consult with Ronnie Romance?! I love my Billie 
 Bars and wouldn’t trade them, but Ronnie’s point of view was 
 interesting. 
>

[RBW] Re: DUB Eagle crankset on a Rivendell?

[Eric Marth]

Would love to see someone's SRAM Hillborne... if they have one. 

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 6:55:06 AM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I know we are all retrogrouches here, but it has been over 10 years since 
> I ditched front derailleurs forever on all my bikes. Are some of the new 
> cranksets better for "one by" setups nowadays?
>
> On my bike currently, I have a vintage White Industries crankset with a 
> WolfTooth narrow-wide chainring, a 9 speed chain, a SRAM GX 10 speed clutch 
> derailleur, and a 9 speed SRAM cassette, with a Silver1 shifter. It works 
> great.
>
> I was wondering if anyone has a SRAM DUB crankset or any other 
> direct-mount crankset on their Rivendell. I've been reading about the DUB 
> cranks and they seem actually simpler with fewer parts than a traditional 5 
> bolt crankset. I was wondering if the Q factor also would be wider.
>
> The SRAM Eagle SX crankset seems to be available at a nice price (under 
> $75 total), and I'm curious.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [RBW] All Time Best Paint Color

[Eric Marth]

J J those are some great Glorious pics which I immediately saved. I love 
the raw finish with brass brazing. 

That pea sage is great!

On Thursday, September 8, 2022 at 2:10:57 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That pea sage is so sweet, there's an All Rounder that color on Ebay 
> right now. 
>
> On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 11:07:12 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:
>
>> The Rambouillet orange has to be the top for me.  Not really a standard 
>> paint but the pea sage was a common color for customs in the past. I though 
>> that color looked great with the cream head tube paint. Third would be the 
>> light blue metallic that was also a common color on customs. 
>>
>> Here are two of mine:
>>
>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> Robert Tilley
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 4:08 PM, Keith P.  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> I've been going down the archive rabbit hole and am curious of the 
>> bunch's thoughts (opinions).
>>
>> *What is the best factory Rivendell paint color to date?*
>>
>> Give me your hot takes - and photos if you've got 'em.
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Re: [RBW] Doldrums

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for starting this thread, Jay. I had considered voicing some similar 
feelings but never started a thread. 

As far as my riding goes, I do anything I can by bike. I can get pretty 
much everything done in less than six miles, round trip. Most errands under 
two miles. I work from home but with groceries, post office, job site 
visits, stopping by the office, I'm riding every day, often four or five 
trips. 

I do road rides throughout the week and average about 100 miles per week. 
Longer rides on the weekends out in the mountains if I can find the time 
(more on this below). 

The things I feel keep me from riding more: Oppressive heat and humidity; 
not great riding from my door; better riding being a long drive from home; 
not having other people to ride with. 

I'm in Virginia. By August I am throughly exhausted by the weather. We've 
had some nice bits here and there but the overall heat and humidity 
situation seems to never end. Until it does! 

The riding from my front door is not great. Lots of stroads and highways 
and it takes some work to get out to where the riding is better and the 
traffic is more calm. I'm limited in where I feel safe riding and going the 
same routes over and over gets a bit tiresome. I'm not interested in doing 
dozens of miles on the shoulder of a two-lane road where the posted speed 
is 45 mph. We have some multi-use paths that are separated from car traffic 
but they add up to less than six miles and they're pretty dinky. 

I ride solo functionally 100% of the time. It seems having a riding partner 
or group would make it a lot more fun and easier to get out the door. 

The riding that I love (on quiet roads in the foothills of the mountains) 
requires at *least *three hours of driving to access and doing a 35 or 50 
mile ride takes up the entire day. 

I've often thought that if there were better roads around me I'd ride a lot 
more!

I think aeroperf's suggestion to read about riding is a great one. I 
recently read Ray Hosler's Once Upon a Ride (thanks again for the rec, 
Rich!) and that was fun and inspiring. Reading Bicycle Quarterly and old 
Readers is pretty fun and inspiring, too. 

Whenever I really don't feel like riding and I force myself to go I am 
*always* glad that I did. Sometimes it's hard to keep that in mind and 
sometimes I forget and talk myself out of it. But for me, riding is almost 
always the right choice. 
On Wednesday, September 7, 2022 at 7:10:26 PM UTC-4 Scott wrote:

> Jay:
>
> I must say I found comfort in you sharing your state of doldrums. It's 
> comforting knowing I'm not alone. I'm 53 and have been in same state for a 
> few years now. It's unsettling. I have to really push to scare-up desire 
> and passion towards hobbies/adventures that used to be abundant and readily 
> available. I develop levels of self-frustration because I'm largely a 
> content, happy person. That is to say, I have much to be thankful for and 
> don't struggle to make ends meet. Before this spell I always found joy in 
> the contagious nature of my enthusiasm towards my recreational activities. 
> Where it went exactly, I don't know. Simply said, I'm not a depressive 
> person, so it's not that. I'm a productive person. It's just that I've 
> noticed I have more of a "chore" view towards considering new adventures. I 
> look back at the level of effort and enthusiasm I used to put forth into 
> planning, prepping for, and successfully completing adventures and it tires 
> me out.
>
> For me, I think it's a phase in life thing: kids moving on to start their 
> own lives, career, monotony, etc.
> Again, I've had a great life: much to be grateful and thankful for. I 
> resigned from a long-held position 4 months ago and have been intentionally 
> unemployed since, taking some time to refocus. I find the enthusiasm and 
> passion cups gradually refilling.
>
> Anyways, I don't want to ramble on. But I felt compelled to reply. You're 
> not alone. It's a life philosophy tour. For me it's a lot about the 
> unsettled phase in life I find myself in and locating the desire/courage to 
> MAKE change in the interest of destroying monotony.
>
> I never regret partaking in my hobbies: gravel rides, dirt biking, wing 
> shooting. I just get frustrated being the impediment to doing same.
>
> Over the past few months, I get the feeling it's beginning pass, which is 
> welcome.
>
> Best of luck my friend! Everyone has to deeply consider their own sources 
> and solutions. Force yourself to do what you KNOW you love. Recognition is 
> a great start! I'm getting better at conquering myself.
>
> Best,
>
> Scott in Montana 
>
> On Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 11:52:57 AM MDT, Jay Lonner <
> jay.l...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Over the years my cycling has increasingly tended toward 
> commuting/utility. Bike-centered vacations/tours remain on the menu, and 
> are still very enjoyable to me, but the day-in, day-out feels like a chore. 
> Part of this is seasonal — I have an

[RBW] Re: Video: Appaloosa build updates

[Eric Marth]

Hey, thanks Stephen, I appreciate the kind feedback!

Definitely check out the Suntour shifters.  

I actually don't like the Oury grips that much and I'm planning to go back 
to the felted wool grips wrapped with Newbaum's. And I'm going to wrap the 
area ahead of the levers, too. Pretty much the same grip and wrapping as I 
had on the Billie bars. 

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 10:08:45 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:

> Hey Eric,
>
> Enjoyed the video, as well as your others! I appreciated the top down 
> comparison of the billies to the ortho's, didn't realize the ortho's came 
> back so far. In fact, seeing them from that angle they look so similar to 
> the Tosco bar shape. Also the suntour power thumb shifters look great, I 
> love how minimal their clamp on the bar is. Might have to look for some of 
> those myself.. 
>
> How are you liking the switch from cotton bar wrap to the oury's? are you 
> going to wrap the front of the ortho bars?
>
> Bike looks great, keep up the good work.
>
> -stephen
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 4:54:25 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone — I just finished a new video about my Appaloosa. Handlebar 
>> swap, new shifters, new front and rear derailers (including a Nexave rapid 
>> rise mech). Also installed a Nitto front rack, Son dynamo hub and Schmidt 
>> Edeluxe II. 
>>
>> https://youtu.be/muQgJiZtzwY
>>
>> Special appearance by orthopedic specialist Dr. Ronnie Romance. 
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> [image: Appaloosa 20220904.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Stripping Black Parts and Burnishing

[Eric Marth]

Here's another helpful article: https://lixbmx.com/de-anodising

On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 9:23:15 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> I found this thread on bikeforums which is part one of three that answered 
> the many questions I had about this. If I did it all outside with a light 
> breeze to blow the odor away I just may be able to do it. There's some 
> photos of a really beat up black ano 3T stem that was made all shiny even 
> though the deeper scratches remained. That's what I'd call more than "good 
> enough" ! 
>
>
> https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/715486-drillium-how-guide-part-one-stripping-anodizing-2.html
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Video: Appaloosa build updates

[Eric Marth]

I love that bike, Joe! Let me know if you do go for a stem swap and how it 
works out. Is that the Periscopa I sold you a while back? 

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 11:50:39 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Eric, I just got back from a short ride and now I'm thinking The Good 
> Doctor may have a point about stem length. My Billies are high on a long TT 
> frame with a short DirtDrop stem, I wonder if the hand numbness is from 
> grips being a little too close. Hmmm 🤔
>
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 5:29:24 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks so much, Leah! I have a couple of other Riv build videos you might 
>> like if you haven't seen them, check out my channel. I had to go really, 
>> really far outside of my insurance network just to get a referral for Dr. 
>> Ron. Healthcare, I tell ya. 
>>
>> I love the Billie bars, they're great. Running them with bar-end shifters 
>> wasn't working great for me as I sometimes did have thigh interference. 
>> That was the only issue. Love the grip position ahead of the bars, the 
>> shape, the look. If I'm to be honest I really resisted switching up the 
>> bars but a lot of my bike friends swap and try things out with abandon so I 
>> figured I should just loosen up, already. 
>>
>> The Ortho Bars are fun, they are crazy wide and they have a ton of flex. 
>> At first I wasn't so into them because I thought I'd lost the grip position 
>> "ahead" of the levers and shifters which I use a lot for climbing or 
>> getting out of the wind. Or sprinting. But after I re-routed the cables 
>> from the shifters it was all gravy. I've definitely resolved the bar-end 
>> jabs issue. Compared to the Billies I can't say they're necessarily better, 
>> they're different, they're good. They were made at the Renthal factory, if 
>> anyone's curious. The new-to-me Suntour Power Thumb shifters are really 
>> great, I love them. They're my first reverse-mounted thumb shifters. 
>>
>> Joe, thanks for the note. I didn't know that mocking up the struts with a 
>> bevel was a thing either but it just sort of dawned on me. I'm glad you 
>> enjoyed the consultation. I definitely love the Billie bars as well. I'm 
>> sorry to hear about your numbness! and I hope that resolves some how some 
>> way. 
>>
>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:55:47 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> He used a sliding bevel to mock up the rack struts. I didn't even know 
>>> that was a thing! 
>>>
>>> Dr. Romance was hilarious, I enjoyed that so much. The Ortho Bar is 
>>> interesting but I think I'll stick with my Billies, too. I don't think 
>>> bringing my bars further back and wider would work for me, but I DO wish I 
>>> could solve the hand numbness I'm getting now. This is a new and unfun 
>>> malady for me! 😫
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 3:01:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I loved it. A really fun look into the magic (as one who doesn’t work 
 on her bikes, it’s magic to ME) of assembly. What great new upgrades - 
 especially the dyno. 

 How did you get a consult with Ronnie Romance?! I love my Billie Bars 
 and wouldn’t trade them, but Ronnie’s point of view was interesting. Are 
 you noticing a marked improvement?

 Thanks for sharing this video. It was really engrossing.
 Leah

 On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 4:54:25 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hey everyone — I just finished a new video about my Appaloosa. 
> Handlebar swap, new shifters, new front and rear derailers (including a 
> Nexave rapid rise mech). Also installed a Nitto front rack, Son dynamo 
> hub 
> and Schmidt Edeluxe II. 
>
> https://youtu.be/muQgJiZtzwY
>
> Special appearance by orthopedic specialist Dr. Ronnie Romance. 
>
> Enjoy!
>
> [image: Appaloosa 20220904.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Video: Appaloosa build updates

[Eric Marth]

Thanks so much, Leah! I have a couple of other Riv build videos you might 
like if you haven't seen them, check out my channel. I had to go really, 
really far outside of my insurance network just to get a referral for Dr. 
Ron. Healthcare, I tell ya. 

I love the Billie bars, they're great. Running them with bar-end shifters 
wasn't working great for me as I sometimes did have thigh interference. 
That was the only issue. Love the grip position ahead of the bars, the 
shape, the look. If I'm to be honest I really resisted switching up the 
bars but a lot of my bike friends swap and try things out with abandon so I 
figured I should just loosen up, already. 

The Ortho Bars are fun, they are crazy wide and they have a ton of flex. At 
first I wasn't so into them because I thought I'd lost the grip position 
"ahead" of the levers and shifters which I use a lot for climbing or 
getting out of the wind. Or sprinting. But after I re-routed the cables 
from the shifters it was all gravy. I've definitely resolved the bar-end 
jabs issue. Compared to the Billies I can't say they're necessarily better, 
they're different, they're good. They were made at the Renthal factory, if 
anyone's curious. The new-to-me Suntour Power Thumb shifters are really 
great, I love them. They're my first reverse-mounted thumb shifters. 

Joe, thanks for the note. I didn't know that mocking up the struts with a 
bevel was a thing either but it just sort of dawned on me. I'm glad you 
enjoyed the consultation. I definitely love the Billie bars as well. I'm 
sorry to hear about your numbness! and I hope that resolves some how some 
way. 

On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 7:55:47 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> He used a sliding bevel to mock up the rack struts. I didn't even know 
> that was a thing! 
>
> Dr. Romance was hilarious, I enjoyed that so much. The Ortho Bar is 
> interesting but I think I'll stick with my Billies, too. I don't think 
> bringing my bars further back and wider would work for me, but I DO wish I 
> could solve the hand numbness I'm getting now. This is a new and unfun 
> malady for me! 😫
>
> Joe Bernard 
> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 3:01:43 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I loved it. A really fun look into the magic (as one who doesn’t work on 
>> her bikes, it’s magic to ME) of assembly. What great new upgrades - 
>> especially the dyno. 
>>
>> How did you get a consult with Ronnie Romance?! I love my Billie Bars and 
>> wouldn’t trade them, but Ronnie’s point of view was interesting. Are you 
>> noticing a marked improvement?
>>
>> Thanks for sharing this video. It was really engrossing.
>> Leah
>>
>> On Sunday, September 4, 2022 at 4:54:25 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everyone — I just finished a new video about my Appaloosa. Handlebar 
>>> swap, new shifters, new front and rear derailers (including a Nexave rapid 
>>> rise mech). Also installed a Nitto front rack, Son dynamo hub and Schmidt 
>>> Edeluxe II. 
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/muQgJiZtzwY
>>>
>>> Special appearance by orthopedic specialist Dr. Ronnie Romance. 
>>>
>>> Enjoy!
>>>
>>> [image: Appaloosa 20220904.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Soma Shikoro 33mm tires

[Eric Marth]

Tires have sold, thanks!

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 9:45:18 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> I have a set of Shikoros that have five miles on them. And that's an over 
> estimate, less  actual mileage! 
>
> Got these new from Soma in February of 2022, paid $47/each or $94 for the 
> pair. 
>
> Pair: $60 plus shipping to you. 
>
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] FS: Soma Shikoro 33mm tires

[Eric Marth]

I have a set of Shikoros that have five miles on them. And that's an over 
estimate, less  actual mileage! 

Got these new from Soma in February of 2022, paid $47/each or $94 for the 
pair. 

Pair: $60 plus shipping to you. 

Thanks! 

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[RBW] Re: Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Great pics, Ana, and yeah, those Nexaves are quite large! 

Did you all read the latest Blahg? Seems the prototypes are crazy 
expensive. They'll be CNC machined. Here's Grant's quote from the 
fabricators: 

"50 pieces. These will be made by CNC machining They will cost $345.5 
USD each,  total $17,275 USD. The cost base on the QTY"

More here.  
Um,
 
does it seem like maybe 50 Rivendell customers would pool together and 
chunk in a non-refundable $350 towards getting this project moving in the 
(opposite) direction?  
On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 3:24:45 AM UTC-4 Ana Candela wrote:

> Yes, and love it! I got one last year thanks to Grant's suggestion: 
> Shimano Nexave RD-C505. It is rather large compared to the other ones I'm 
> seeing posted here, but hey, function before form. I am very much looking 
> forward to Rivendell's derailer project because function will be enhanced 
> by form. I think it's coming along beautifully :)
>
> My RR der is the #1 upgrade that I've done to my bike, and that's saying a 
> lot! The reason is thanks to its logic of shifting: it doesn't twist my 
> brain and wreak havoc like "normal" ones do. I always thought the shifting 
> in bikes was counterintuitive, but I assumed that was the way of derailers. 
> Then at some point Grant brought up the rapid-rise derailers in the Blahg, 
> and I almost heard angels sing, haha!
>
> Now both derailers work with the same logic: if I'm climbing UP a hill, I 
> pull either or both shifters UP (easy gear); if I'm going DOWN or flat at 
> speed, I push DOWN (hard gear). This just makes sense. And then with 
> friction shifters it is just delightful to shift. So smooth and almost 
> silent. Bliss!
>
> Below are a couple photos from last Sunday. Long live the Rapid-Rise 
> Derailer!
>
> -Ana in Seattle
>
> [image: IMG_6954.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_6934.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

Thanks JC, Bill, Patrick and Scott for more takes on Rising Rapidly. 

JC, do let me know if you can repair or finesse that 951 into shape! 

Scott, gotta admire your pile of 951s. Do you have an idea of cassette 
capacity differences between the medium and long cage versions? 

Bill, I am also a fan of my Cyclone GT!

I've ridden with my Nexave T4000 a bit more and have to say it shifts very 
smoothly and quietly, sometimes silently. Still early stages. Oh, for 
anyone interested, it's rated for 34T and I'm easily and eagerly shifting 
36T. 

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-4 Bill Schairer wrote:

> From time to time I have used reverse pull front derailleurs on a tandem 
> because the springs of normal pull front derailleurs were of insufficient 
> strength to reliably drop the chain onto the granny, a most undesirable and 
> annoying thing.  Based upon that experience, I do not want to rely upon a 
> spring to get me to a lower gear.  I've had well worn normal rear 
> derailleurs have trouble getting to the smallest cog at times, or be a bit 
> slow on the upshift - mildly annoying.  But, when I want a lower gear, I 
> want it NOW.  I like my VGT's and Cyclones.  On the other hand, at my age, 
> perhaps switching would confuse my brain enough to help ward off dementia.
>
> The new Rene Herse derailleurs don't rely upon a spring either way, do 
> they?  But then, they can't be used with cogs with as many teeth as I want.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 5:50:12 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> The rear derailleur on my first-gen Sam Hill, Riv's shop-floor model, was 
>> equipped with an LX rapid rise rd. I used it for the first few miles with 
>> the Silver bes (friction) and found that the action was very light and the 
>> shifting very precise; certainly one of the most precise-shifting and easy 
>> to shift rds I've used.
>>
>> But I didn't take to the reverse action and after a short while switched 
>> to an equally light and precise shifting but normal direction road rd made 
>> or sold by Nashbar; I forget the made-up brand name, but it's cheap and 
>> easy to find and comes or came in road and mtb versions. 
>>
>> The LX worked very well, but I simply found the reverse lever action 
>> annoying.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 1:46 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Do you run a Rapid Rise derailer? Do you like it? Have you had one 
>>> before and just didn't get it? What's the *deal?*
>>>
>>> With all the commotion over Rivendell's plan to build their own 
>>> production low-normal derailer I figured I'd try one out for myself. The 
>>> first one I picked up was an XTR RD-M951 which I suspected had a bent 
>>> pulley cage, some of you may remember I posted about this mech a few weeks 
>>> ago. 
>>>
>>> I found this Nexave on eBay for $17 so figured I'd give it a shot. This 
>>> model, to my mind, is *the* classic rapid rise derailer. Silver, shiny, 
>>> long cage, external guide pulley, pivoting cable guide for a short bit of 
>>> housing over the rear dropout. Grant mentioned that this was his favorite 
>>> model, cosmetically. I like it, too. 
>>>
>>> So far I haven't put many miles on it but no complaints. I like getting 
>>> into the easier gears with a light touch. I'm running the derailer on my 
>>> Appaloosa with a Silver 38/24 crank and a 9-speed 11-36 cassette. It's 
>>> wired up to the original Suntour Power Thumb shifters which are mounted in 
>>> the reversed, under-hand style also known as the Riv-versed or Rivendell 
>>> brifter style. 
>>>
>>> With the reverse-mounted shifters I did like pushing the lever away from 
>>> me to get an easier gear with a high-normal derailer installed. That made 
>>> sense. Pulling the lever to me for an easier gear is taking a bit of 
>>> getting used to but the action required is so light that it's not a problem 
>>> so far. 
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't yet been in a situation where I'm climbing and 
>>> experience a mis-shift under torque resulting in the derailer bumping me to 
>>> an easier gear. I'm looking forward to it, really. 
>>>
>>> One thing I can't get my head wrapped around is why Grant and Rivendell 
>>> want to make this happen and go through so much trouble and expense. It is 
>>> quite a complicated undertaking. It seems if you're into low-normal 
>>> derailers they're out there if you look hard e

Re: [RBW] Going around in circles with shifters.

[Eric Marth]

Ben — Reading your post two things came to mind. Joe, Jay and Steve 
mentioned them. Try running longer cables and consider stem shifters. There 
are lots of the Suntour stem mount shifters on eBay for less than $20. I 
haven't run them before but I do own some, I think they're pretty cool. 

Do you think you can acclimate to downtube levers? Or is that a 
dealbreaker, no-go sort of option? 

On Thursday, August 25, 2022 at 6:56:51 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Ben, after decades of using bar ends I switched  to stem shifters and 
> haven’t gone back. I really like the short housing  run instead of the very 
> long housing run under the bar tape. Using older Suntour friction shifters. 
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 9:48 PM Ben Adrian  wrote:
>
>> Hey all! Just looking for some gear chat.
>>
>> I have a Rambouillet with drop bars. I'm finally getting everything 
>> comfortable, but I've been around the block with my shifters.
>>
>> My bike came with 8 speed bar end shifters. However, when I did my first 
>> configuration I mounted them on the downtube. They worked great. It was 
>> kind of a bummer to reach down, but I went with it because I loved the 
>> simplicity and getting the cables off the handlebars. 
>>
>> After a while I decided to put them back in the bar ends. I had 
>> previously used bar ends for a long time, so it felt like home. However, I 
>> have a front Mark's rack with a basket and the derailleur cables were 
>> always getting in the way of the front stuff.
>>
>> So I just ran the cables fully under the bar tape and that install works 
>> great to get stuff out of the way, but now my shifting performance is 
>> pretty bad from the twisty cable runs; much worse than any other 
>> configurations.
>>
>> So, nothing is really broken, but I know it can be better. Wondering if I 
>> should try again with a new take on the "not under tape" routing. Or try 
>> downtube again? Or just go nuts and look for a used STI system?
>>
>> Let's chat!
>> Ben
>>
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[RBW] Re: Randonneuring Bike

[Eric Marth]

I'm surprised that Bill Lindsay, a board member who's done a lot of brevets 
on a lot of different Rivs, hasn't written in. 

Seems to me that from the current lineup a Homer or Sam would be a great 
way to go given rack mounts as well as tire and fender clearances. Looking 
further back in the catalog perhaps a Saluki or Bleriot would be solid 
choices as well.

On the Velo Orange blog the other day there was a post titled "What Makes a 
Good Rando Bike?" Worthwhile read: 
https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2022/08/what-makes-good-rando-bike.html 

On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 9:51:29 PM UTC-4 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> The best Rivendell for brevets is obviously a custom Rivendell designed 
> for brevets. I understand the waiting list isn't crazy long. :)
>
> I've done a few 200k and populaires, and had taken everything from my 
> custom Rivendell that was designed for brevets, to my commuter Toyo 
> Atlantis complete with front and rear racks, fenders, dynamo lighting and 
> brevet-approved boxy front bag. I even rode a Jan Heine-archetype Boulder 
> Cycles bike with "skinny tubing" to see if a planing frame with low trail 
> geometry is the bee's knees. It's all doable, as long as you have the 
> mental fortitude, physical fitness, and correct "comfort" bike fit. The 
> speeds *will* be different, but randonneuring is never about all-out 
> speed; randonneuring is about finishing within the time limit, having fun, 
> and perhaps having a bit of self-discovery and introspection.
>
> As others have pointed out, remaining comfortable (particularly with the 
> contact points) and having a reliable bike are two critical factors that a 
> bike can make. I'll also add that one shouldn't skimp on tires, so that 
> eye-watering  spent on Rene Herse or other fast-rolling supple tires 
> will seem good value when you're wondering if you can make that last 20%.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:52:59 PM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote:
>
>> Looking for opinions/thoughts on the best Riv for Brevets, 200-400K 
>> rides. Looking for current models as well as older models. Thanks
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Shikoro 38mm tires

[Eric Marth]

Tires found. Thanks!

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 6:50:58 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi everyone — Do you have a set of lightly used 700C Shikoros in 38mm? Hit 
> me up! Looking for these for my partner's bike, we want to plump up from 
> 32s. 
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Do you Rapid Rise? (Share pics and thoughts)

[Eric Marth]

rs crossed 
>> that they will see the light of day asap. Whatever price it ends up being, 
>> I'll try to be the first in line for one.
>>
>>
>> [image: xt rapid rise.jpeg]
>>
>> On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 4:09:31 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> Path Less Pedaled just did an entire video episode on Rapid Rise/Low 
>>> Normal derailleurs that’s definitely worth watching.
>>>
>>> One point that came up in the comments from viewers is that shifting to 
>>> lower gears is done entirely through the strength of the spring in the 
>>> derailleur. Move the shifter to release more cable, and the *spring* pushes 
>>> the chain onto a larger cog. In practice, according to people who had used 
>>> RR/LN extensively, was that normal stuff that happens to derailleurs (they 
>>> get dirty or muddy, or need lubrication) makes that spring’s job harder, 
>>> with the result that it doesn’t work as well. 
>>>
>>> Shifting to a larger cog also benefits from a slight decrease in 
>>> pedaling pressure while shifting (again, to make the spring’s job easier). 
>>> That’s not always possible when you’re grinding up a steep incline and need 
>>> to grab a lower gear. This may be part of the reason why RR/LN was phased 
>>> out … along with the fact that it was “different” in an industry that 
>>> mostly prizes conformity.
>>>
>>> Full disclosure: I’ve never used a RR/LN setup, although I do ride 
>>> almost exclusively with friction-shifting downtube levers.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2022, at 12:46 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> Do you run a Rapid Rise derailer? Do you like it? Have you had one 
>>> before and just didn't get it? What's the *deal?*
>>>
>>> With all the commotion over Rivendell's plan to build their own 
>>> production low-normal derailer I figured I'd try one out for myself. The 
>>> first one I picked up was an XTR RD-M951 which I suspected had a bent 
>>> pulley cage, some of you may remember I posted about this mech a few weeks 
>>> ago. 
>>>
>>> I found this Nexave on eBay for $17 so figured I'd give it a shot. This 
>>> model, to my mind, is *the* classic rapid rise derailer. Silver, shiny, 
>>> long cage, external guide pulley, pivoting cable guide for a short bit of 
>>> housing over the rear dropout. Grant mentioned that this was his favorite 
>>> model, cosmetically. I like it, too. 
>>>
>>> So far I haven't put many miles on it but no complaints. I like getting 
>>> into the easier gears with a light touch. I'm running the derailer on my 
>>> Appaloosa with a Silver 38/24 crank and a 9-speed 11-36 cassette. It's 
>>> wired up to the original Suntour Power Thumb shifters which are mounted in 
>>> the reversed, under-hand style also known as the Riv-versed or Rivendell 
>>> brifter style. 
>>>
>>> With the reverse-mounted shifters I did like pushing the lever away from 
>>> me to get an easier gear with a high-normal derailer installed. That made 
>>> sense. Pulling the lever to me for an easier gear is taking a bit of 
>>> getting used to but the action required is so light that it's not a problem 
>>> so far. 
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I haven't yet been in a situation where I'm climbing and 
>>> experience a mis-shift under torque resulting in the derailer bumping me to 
>>> an easier gear. I'm looking forward to it, really. 
>>>
>>> One thing I can't get my head wrapped around is why Grant and Rivendell 
>>> want to make this happen and go through so much trouble and expense. It is 
>>> quite a complicated undertaking. It seems if you're into low-normal 
>>> derailers they're out there if you look hard enough and have some patience. 
>>> Perhaps it's just what they do and what they're about. They want something 
>>> to exist that has gone out of production, they make it so, and that is the 
>>> purest expression of their ethos and what they love about bikes and 
>>> components. "Isn't this great? People should be able to find and use 
>>> these!" 
>>>
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Brendon! 

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:05:07 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS posts.
> Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
> contributions to this community.
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Pat! It's lovely and worth working towards :) 

Scott — Ah, I really did mean to include this info in the ride report. I'm 
running the S-Ride 7speed 11-32. The max cog size listed for the Cyclone is 
34 so I went on the safe side. I'm not sure about the tab extension for the 
13-42 and you Altus. My first suggestion would be to call Rivendell. The 
second suggestion is to start a thread here to field experience. 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:51:02 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Amazing ride report!
>
> QQ regarding your drivetrain overhaul, of the S-Ride 7-speed cassettes, 
> which did you choose? 
>
> I also recently overhauled the drivetrain on my Sam as well from a V/O 
> wide double to a Sugino XD2 - bash-guard / 40 / 24 with the S-Ride 7 speed 
> 11-36. The RD is a new Altus. Wondering how a 13-42 7-speed would work on a 
> Sam, assuming one would need a RD tab extender? 
>
> Scott - Amherst, MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:47:14 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Incredible report! As a DCist I long to get out to Shenandoah more and 
>> also wish I had the legs and cardio and endurance to do something like 
>> this. 
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:05:07 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS 
>>> posts.
>>> Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
>>> contributions to this community.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Pat! It's lovely and worth working towards :) 

Scott — Ah, I really did mean to include this info in the ride report. I'm 
running the S-Ride 7speed 11-32. The max cog size listed for the Cyclone is 
34 so I went on the safe side. I'm not sure about the tab extension for the 
13-42, my first suggestion would be to call Rivendell. The second 
suggestion is to start a thread here to field experience. 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:51:02 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Amazing ride report!
>
> QQ regarding your drivetrain overhaul, of the S-Ride 7-speed cassettes, 
> which did you choose? 
>
> I also recently overhauled the drivetrain on my Sam as well from a V/O 
> wide double to a Sugino XD2 - bash-guard / 40 / 24 with the S-Ride 7 speed 
> 11-36. The RD is a new Altus. Wondering how a 13-42 7-speed would work on a 
> Sam, assuming one would need a RD tab extender? 
>
> Scott - Amherst, MA
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:47:14 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Incredible report! As a DCist I long to get out to Shenandoah more and 
>> also wish I had the legs and cardio and endurance to do something like 
>> this. 
>>
>> Pat in DC
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 9:05:07 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> Oh man, I almost missed this amazing ride report between all the FS 
>>> posts.
>>> Such a great write up! Thank you again Eric for all your thoughtful 
>>> contributions to this community.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Hi Scott — I don't have any relevant experience to share from riding off 
road. I love the idea of knobs and slicks together on one Sam. Certainly 
there's a good bit of writing out there somewhere explaining the nuances. 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 11:12:48 AM UTC-4 greenteadrinkers wrote:

> Hi Andrew - thanks for the insight! 
> There was a review someplace about the benefit of mixing a smooth with a 
> knobby, just can't remember exactly what the benefit was!
> Scott - Amherst MA
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:57:33 AM UTC-4 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Scott, I've swapped between both Hatcher Pass and Oracle Ridge tires on 
>> my Monstercross and can confidently say both do surprisingly well off-road. 
>> Where I live, when things get really rough, they're often really wet as 
>> well so the Oracle Ridge tires had slightly more grip in those slippery 
>> conditions but truly slightly. Having both on the same bike honestly seems 
>> like the way to go since I couldn't ever make up my mind of which tire I 
>> preferred.  
>>
>> Andrew 
>> TN
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 9:07 AM greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric, currently I have 700c 48mm Oracle Ridge standard casing tires 
>>> (tubeless) usually around 24 psi on my 54cm Sam. My local roads are a mix 
>>> of smooth to broken pavement, gravel, double track, and some single track. 
>>> I've found the 48's are smooth, quiet, and confident. Aside from road, can 
>>> you speak to the 44mm Snoqualmie Pass tires on mixed surfaces? I'm 
>>> considering swapping out the rear Oracle Ridge with a slick Hatcher Pass 
>>> 48mm, I like the idea that you can mix and match.
>>>
>>> Thx!
>>> Scott - Amherst MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 12:53:16 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 I love the Rene Herse options but if the conditions aren't perfect, 
 Panaracer Paselas are just so good on damp/wet roads for confidence 
 braking 
 and cornering. 
 I run the biggest (38s) on my two mainly road bikes, the Homer and the 
 Holdsworth. If they made a 42-44 in the Pasela I probably wouldn't go back 
 to the much more expensive Jan Heine creations.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jandd grocery panniers

[Eric Marth]

Thanks Pat! 

These bananniers have sold. Thanks everyone :) 

On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 10:40:35 AM UTC-4 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> These are way cool and I love grocery style panniers but sadly I'm all 
> maxed out on bags at the moment!
> Pat
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:52:18 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Price reduced: $80 OBO. 
>>
>> Just think of all the sardines and chocolate bars you could move with 
>> these. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> A pair of Jandd panniers, embroidered with bananas. Bananniers? 
>>>
>>> Very lightly used, less than a dozen times. They're showing some dirt as 
>>> the fabric is quite light. These are $90/apiece new from Jandd 
>>> <https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP>. 
>>>
>>> $100 plus actual shipping from 22401 to you. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1707.JPG]
>>> [image: IMG_1709.JPG]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jandd grocery panniers

[Eric Marth]

Price reduced: $80 OBO. 

Just think of all the sardines and chocolate bars you could move with 
these. 

On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:18:31 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> A pair of Jandd panniers, embroidered with bananas. Bananniers? 
>
> Very lightly used, less than a dozen times. They're showing some dirt as 
> the fabric is quite light. These are $90/apiece new from Jandd 
> <https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP>. 
>
> $100 plus actual shipping from 22401 to you. 
>
> [image: IMG_1707.JPG]
> [image: IMG_1709.JPG]
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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Great question, John. I did indeed change the bottom bracket. I went from a 
117mm to a 113mm. The clearance is pretty nuts, the chainring bolts just 
clear the chainstay, I can slide an index card between the two and that's 
it. 

On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 3:14:52 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:

> Eric
>
> Great ride report.  One question:   Did you install a shorter BB when you 
> changed cranks from the Sugino XD2 triple to the SunXCD double??
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Shenandoah Foothills
>> 47 miles, 5,380 feet
>> Clear. Low 60s in the morning, warming to the high 70s, humidity at 50% 
>> and below. 
>>
>> August in Virginia is typically a warm and uncomfortable month with 
>> average temperatures in the mid 80s and often creeping into the upper 90s. 
>> Humidity is unpleasantly high as well. The past few weeks were particularly 
>> oppressive with humidity averaging around 70% (and often much higher) and 
>> temperatures reaching the 90s most days. These temps have forced the smart 
>> riders to depart at first light, drenched to the bone before 8AM. 
>>
>> We had a break from all of that this weekend with temperatures dipping 
>> into a realm of unseasonable deliciousness. Low humidity, a cool morning 
>> starting in the high 50s and a max temperature around 80º had this Saturday 
>> looking too good to pass by unridden. 
>>
>> I recently swapped out the drivetrain on my Hillborne. I had been running 
>> a Sugino XD2 with a 48/36/24, a Shimano 11-36 9-speed cassette, a plain 
>> silver Shimano Ultegra front mech and a Shimano Deore XT M771 rear 
>> derailer. These worked just fine but I found the chainrings left me 
>> shifting at awkward intervals and I'd been wanting to try a compact double. 
>>
>> So I changed in a SunXCD crank with 42/26 chainrings from TA Specialites 
>> purchased from Jitensha Studio in Berkeley. Because I found the Shimano 
>> mechs were too ugly for my liking I sought out a Suntour Cyclone GT rear 
>> and a Cyclone front derailer. These lovely workhorses seemed more 
>> appropriate for the bike. I installed one of the new S-Ride 7-speed 
>> cassettes from Soma Fab Shop, made with input from Rivendell. The movement 
>> and tooth capacity of the rear Cyclone didn't agree with a 9-speed 
>> cassette. And I swapped my MKS XC-III bear-trap pedals for MKS Sylvan 
>> Gorditos specified by Crust. The bear-traps were uncomfortable for my very 
>> wide feet.
>>
>> A friend sent me a used set of Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires in the 
>> extralight casing, which I hadn't tried before. I'd been running the same 
>> in the standard casing for about a year. The new-to-me tires were buttery 
>> smooth and I had no issues or flats during my ride. 
>>
>> Lately I have been enjoying Jobst Brandt's alpine tour reports with 
>> sensational views, grand distances and unfathomable amounts of climbing. 
>> I've also been reading Ray Hosler's collection of diaries from riding with 
>> Brandt around the Santa Cruz Mountains in the 1980s. So inspired I made up 
>> a route for myself that incorporated a few tough climbs on some of my 
>> favorite roads. The length and elevation gain of my route doesn't compare 
>> to their marathon rides.  
>>
>> From the start I began a three-mile climb over loose, unpaved road with 
>> sections pitching up over 16% grade. I enjoy the challenge of making this 
>> climb in one go but there is a shoulder with a wide mountain view that I 
>> always end up stopping for. Pedaling up the climb, and some of the steepest 
>> stuff I know, was manageable with my new gearing. I enjoy dumping the chain 
>> from the 42-tooth to the 26-tooth ring when the going gets going. 
>> Throughout the ride I had appropriate gearing to make it through without 
>> much trouble. 
>>
>> [image: 20220813A 03.jpg]
>>
>> At the top of this hill, at an elevation of 1,300 feet, I took a rest for 
>> some water. Though I had ridden fewer than four miles I decided to have 
>> half of the sandwich I'd packed: peanut butter, banana, honey, coconut 
>> flakes and salt on sourdough bread. As a fat burner I was worried how the 
>> carbohydrates would treat me and concerned they would occasion bonking, 
>> which I don't experience on rides. My engine runs best when I don't eat 
>> bread, sugar, grain and the rest but I'd been craving a sandwich like this 
>> for weeks. It was a pleasure and I suffered no ill effects. 
>>
>> As I started on my descent, my shirt damp with sweat, I was reminded of 
>> how lovely the weather was. The air was cool and comfortable. Such a gift 
>> and a relief from the weather we've been experiencing lately. 
>>
>> The sunlight filtering through the trees on this wooded road left the 
>> surface sun dappled with some obstacles like ruts and fallen branches 
>> difficult to see in the high contrast situation. I would have ditched my 
>> sunglasses if they weren't so good at deflecting fl

[RBW] WTB: Soma Shikoro 38mm tires

[Eric Marth]

Hi everyone — Do you have a set of lightly used 700C Shikoros in 38mm? Hit 
me up! Looking for these for my partner's bike, we want to plump up from 
32s. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Thanks again to everyone for sharing specifications and philosophies. 

Putting in a nice ride this weekend on plenty of unpaved stuff my 44mm 
Snoqualmie Pass extralights were comfortable and suited for the ride. 

Now that I've heard from a lot of people running tires in the mid to high 
30s I'd be interested to try some out if it was a very easy, low friction, 
low cost situation. Like borrowing or finding a beat pair of 38mm Barlow 
Pass or 35mm Jon Bon tires for comparison. 

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 11:10:03 AM UTC-4 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have Gravelking Slicks in 38 on my Sam and I really like them but want 
> more width the next time I buy tires for it. 
>
> I JUST put on Snoqualmie's on my Atlantis and already prefer them over the 
> Shikoros I had used for two years. I can see getting another pair for the 
> Sam when the GKs are worn down 
>
> Ben in Omaha 
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:23:03 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello people — What size tires do you all run for riding pavement and 
>> doing brevets and such? My Hillborne is set up with 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
>> tires from RH. They are slick, I run them at around 37psi. Went with these 
>> seeing no downsides. I have clearance for maybe even 48s. Standard casing 
>> but I have a set of used extra lights heading to me soon from Vermont which 
>> I'm excited to try. 
>>
>> Curious to know what others think about tire sizes for long paved rides. 
>>
>> [image: Hillborne.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Bob. Yes, right to roam would be lovely and could be really helpful 
for riders looking to stay off the bigger roads! I've heard that in some 
Scandi countries (forgive me for not being specific) you can camp in any 
open space and trespassing is defined as something like "you can get within 
sight of a home." Corrections and more info welcome. 

Thanks, Ryan for watchin' and readin'! 

On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 1:00:44 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:

> Yeah...loved the ride reportand , in addition, your build videos are 
> fun to watch and informative too
>
> On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 10:46:29 AM UTC-5 Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the superb narrative, gear talk, and beautiful photos, Eric! 
>> So inspiring!
>>
>> Now if we only had some right-to-roam laws like in some of the northern 
>> European countries...
>>
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks Andy and Steve. 

Steve: The total mileage and elevation are at the very very top of my post, 
47 miles, 5,380 feet. 

On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 8:26:34 AM UTC-4 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> I also enjoyed your report, do you have total miles and elevation, using 
> RwGPS recently i find my hilliest rides approach and sometimes surpass 
> 1000’/10 miles.
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 5:36 AM ascpgh  wrote:
>
>> That report makes me want to skip out on my obligations later this week 
>> and head out on a nice ride. 
>>
>> What makes a bike trip for me is summed up by your recollection and 
>> appreciation of details of the experience usually lost to those riding pace 
>> lines, hurrying through similar locales.  
>>
>> I'm less enthralled by the IG feeds of @upland_scuz_contingency who, 
>> despite the attraction of riding many wonderful places in Virginia, rarely 
>> appear to appreciate them as they seem bent on segment times and speed. 
>> Just because your bike has the means to blast through terrain at speed 
>> doesn't mean it provides the best experience. I have a similar aversion to 
>> the morphing of otherwise nice trails out in the woods with ramps, created 
>> drops and jumps because full-SUS enduro bike is able to handle it, (even if 
>> some riders can't, judging by volume of social media posts) . Not the "hand 
>> of man" signs I'm interested by when on a ride in the woods. 
>>
>> Riding is a stimulant of all of the senses if you bother. My kind of ride 
>> report, Eric!
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 9:52:21 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Shenandoah Foothills
>>> 47 miles, 5,380 feet
>>> Clear. Low 60s in the morning, warming to the high 70s, humidity at 50% 
>>> and below. 
>>>
>>> August in Virginia is typically a warm and uncomfortable month with 
>>> average temperatures in the mid 80s and often creeping into the upper 90s. 
>>> Humidity is unpleasantly high as well. The past few weeks were particularly 
>>> oppressive with humidity averaging around 70% (and often much higher) and 
>>> temperatures reaching the 90s most days. These temps have forced the smart 
>>> riders to depart at first light, drenched to the bone before 8AM. 
>>>
>>> We had a break from all of that this weekend with temperatures dipping 
>>> into a realm of unseasonable deliciousness. Low humidity, a cool morning 
>>> starting in the high 50s and a max temperature around 80º had this Saturday 
>>> looking too good to pass by unridden. 
>>>
>>> I recently swapped out the drivetrain on my Hillborne. I had been 
>>> running a Sugino XD2 with a 48/36/24, a Shimano 11-36 9-speed cassette, a 
>>> plain silver Shimano Ultegra front mech and a Shimano Deore XT M771 rear 
>>> derailer. These worked just fine but I found the chainrings left me 
>>> shifting at awkward intervals and I'd been wanting to try a compact double. 
>>>
>>> So I changed in a SunXCD crank with 42/26 chainrings from TA Specialites 
>>> purchased from Jitensha Studio in Berkeley. Because I found the Shimano 
>>> mechs were too ugly for my liking I sought out a Suntour Cyclone GT rear 
>>> and a Cyclone front derailer. These lovely workhorses seemed more 
>>> appropriate for the bike. I installed one of the new S-Ride 7-speed 
>>> cassettes from Soma Fab Shop, made with input from Rivendell. The movement 
>>> and tooth capacity of the rear Cyclone didn't agree with a 9-speed 
>>> cassette. And I swapped my MKS XC-III bear-trap pedals for MKS Sylvan 
>>> Gorditos specified by Crust. The bear-traps were uncomfortable for my very 
>>> wide feet.
>>>
>>> A friend sent me a used set of Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass tires in the 
>>> extralight casing, which I hadn't tried before. I'd been running the same 
>>> in the standard casing for about a year. The new-to-me tires were buttery 
>>> smooth and I had no issues or flats during my ride. 
>>>
>>> Lately I have been enjoying Jobst Brandt's alpine tour reports with 
>>> sensational views, grand distances and unfathomable amounts of climbing. 
>>> I've also been reading Ray Hosler's collection of diaries from riding with 
>>> Brandt around the Santa Cruz Mountains in the 1980s. So inspired I made up 
>>> a route for myself that incorporated a few tough climbs on some of my 
>>> favorite roads. The length and elevation gain of my route doesn't compare 
>>> to their marathon rides.  
>>>
>>> From the start I began a three-mile climb over loose, unpaved road with 
>>> sections pitching up over 16% grade. I enjoy the challenge of making this 
>>> climb in one go but there is a shoulder with a wide mountain view that I 
>>> always end up stopping for. Pedaling up the climb, and some of the steepest 
>>> stuff I know, was manageable with my new gearing. I enjoy dumping the chain 
>>> from the 42-tooth to the 26-tooth ring when the going gets going. 
>>> Throughout the ride I had appropriate gearing to make it through without 
>>> much trouble. 
>>>
>>> [image:

Re: [RBW] Ride report: Shenandoah foothills

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for reading!

Patrick: Wow, I really appreciate the kind words. I'll need to check out 
some Craig Montgomery. 

John: Lovely hills and a great pic. 

Brokebike: Thanks! You're right, it's quite nice out there. 
On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 1:07:06 PM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Gorgeous ride recap and photos! This Kentucky boy is always envious 
> whenever I hear about folks who get to ride in the Shenandoah area. For my 
> money, its got to be some of the prettiest countryside I've experienced in 
> the US. I need to make an effort to cross the state line and explore riding 
> there more often.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

I wish I'd titled this thread "Jobst Brandt rides and pictures." It's a 
better reflection of what we're sharing here. 

Thanks to Rich I've been reading Ray Hosler's book of weekly ride reports 
from Sunday excursions with Jobst Brandt around the Bay Area in the 1980s. 

On Ray's blog I found this account from his trip to the Alps with Brandt in 
1986. I haven't even read it yet but I know already that it's going to be 
good. Halfway through his book I know his descriptions of bike rides make 
for fun reading. Lots of photos, too. 

https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/tour-of-the-alps-1986/

[image: fontanatwo.jpg]
On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 1:13:45 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> @Bob: Rough Stuff Goes West! 
>
> @Rich: Seems like Brandt was into traveling light even when touring. I 
> like in the alpine reports where he talks about shipping his suitcase from 
> one train station to the next. I just read a Tom Ritchey remembrance where 
> he notes Brandt didn't even have bottle bosses on his frames. Seems he was 
> partial to drinking from springs, stopping at stores and downing big 
> milkshakes. 
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 1:02:24 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> You're welcome. Under biking to be sure but ride what you've got! For me, 
>> the pictures of the rides he did in the Alps as well as the Sierras 
>> carrying only a Carradice bag 
>> are the essence of light touring; all the better for those big climbs. 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:16:04 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks again, Rich, for recommending Ray Hosler's book. I've been 
>>> enjoying reading the ride reports, sounds beautiful, fun, exhausting. Hard 
>>> to imagine these guys were running such narrow tires in rough country. 
>>>
>>> I only wish that stats on mileage and elevation were included :) 
>>>
>>> [image: poster2.jpg]
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm glad everyone who has said so is digging the pictures and reports. 
>>>> The guy definitely tackled some beautiful and stunning rides, not to 
>>>> mention mileage. I tallied one of his tours and it was something like 
>>>> 1,800 
>>>> miles and over 100,000 feet of climbing. I think he was in his 70s at the 
>>>> time!
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:35:57 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wow Eric! Those photos are fantastic. I tried to read Jobst' reports, 
>>>>> but came up short.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corwin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the tip, Rich, that sounds really cool. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the photo archive. For more stories and pics -- 
>>>>>>> specifically about the Bay Area rides Jobst and his pals did check out 
>>>>>>> Ray Hosler's recent book "Once Upon a Ride". 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:54:29 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wow Eric, what a resource.
>>>>>>>> Thank you so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Thanks everyone for sharing info on builds, your tires and your takes! Fun 
reading along. 

Like Chris I am a little surprised by all the tire sizes in the 30s. 

Thanks for the kind words about the videos, Ben. Yep, it's a 7cm. 

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 2:15:54 PM UTC-4 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just watched your assembly video again, Eric, and I see it's a 7cm. Love 
> the videos, especially as eye candy to see different build configurations 
> close up.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 10:34:39 AM UTC-7 Ben Adrian wrote:
>
>> I just put the 700 x 35 Rene Herse slicks back on my Rambouillet. I had 
>> them on before, but the wider tire and a loaded front rack started to feel 
>> weird. Plus, I wanted to put on fenders and the fenders I have were too 
>> small for 35s. Anyway, I'm shifting the load to the rear and I've removed 
>> the fenders, so I put the 35s back on. What a fantastic ride now.
>>
>> I just got some 700 x 44 tires like yours above for my Salsa Warbird. 
>> I've not had a chance to do a serious ride on them, but they look like they 
>> are going to be very nice.
>>
>> Also, what's the stem length on your Hillborne?
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 5:23:03 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hello people — What size tires do you all run for riding pavement and 
>>> doing brevets and such? My Hillborne is set up with 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
>>> tires from RH. They are slick, I run them at around 37psi. Went with these 
>>> seeing no downsides. I have clearance for maybe even 48s. Standard casing 
>>> but I have a set of used extra lights heading to me soon from Vermont which 
>>> I'm excited to try. 
>>>
>>> Curious to know what others think about tire sizes for long paved rides. 
>>>
>>> [image: Hillborne.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for all the takes. Glad to see everyone's into going for plump tires 
:) 

Jamin, love that maroon bar tape and the general setup of your Homer. 
Lugged stem and seatpost! What's size rings do you have on your crank? 
Looks like a SunXCD. I'm considering putting Suntour barcons on my 
Hillborne, I have Suntour Cyclone derailers. 

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 11:01:35 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> This doesn't really speak to tire width, but I continue to be impressed by 
> the RH knobby offerings. I love feeling confident that I can ride all day 
> on pavement, gravel or even singletrack and the tires perform admirably on 
> all surfaces. They're surprisingly fast, quiet, and feel great. I have 650b 
> x 48 Juniper Ridge on one bike, and 26" x 2.3" Humptulips on another. 
> Typically I run down to 24 psi for gravel or off-roadish stuff, and 30-32 
> psi if I'm going to be primarily on asphalt.
>
> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 10:55:22 AM UTC-4 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Beautiful Sam! here is my homer on 38mm paselas, very narrow rims so they 
>> only measure out to about 36.  It feels great on the road but I definitely 
>> want to go wider, thinking about rebuilding the wheels with wider rims and 
>> fancy 42mm tires.  I was going to suggest Jan's blog post this morning as 
>> well.
>>
>> Jamin
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:46:23 AM UTC-7 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been riding (and touring ) on RTP’s for a few years now  and Jan’s 
>>> post this morning makes it pretty clear thats not the reason I am as slow 
>>> as I am. Also nice to see such an endorsement for 26” wheels. Steve
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 10:30 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Call me old school but for strictly road I’m happiest with 700x38. And 
>>>> when I say strictly road that means I reserve the right to try and ride 
>>>> anything else I find enticing. 
>>>>
>>>> I’ve come to that conclusion after riding many miles on various widths 
>>>> of 26, 650b and 700c tires. 
>>>>
>>>> I did read Jan’s blog this morning. It was interesting. I’m glad he 
>>>> noted that regardless of speed, feel plays a large role in which tires we 
>>>> pick for a ride. I like the way 700x38 feels on my 57cm road oriented 
>>>> frames. 
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 07:33, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Forgot to mention; “long” paved ride for me is 50’ish miles. Buy 
>>>> planning longer…:)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:23 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello people — What size tires do you all run for riding pavement and 
>>>> doing brevets and such? My Hillborne is set up with 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
>>>> tires from RH. They are slick, I run them at around 37psi. Went with these 
>>>> seeing no downsides. I have clearance for maybe even 48s. Standard casing 
>>>> but I have a set of used extra lights heading to me soon from Vermont 
>>>> which 
>>>> I'm excited to try. 
>>>>
>>>> Curious to know what others think about tire sizes for long paved 
>>>> rides. 
>>>>
>>>> [image: Hillborne.jpg]
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Your Road or Road-ish Riv Rubber Radius (tire width)

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the notes, Damien! Nice to hear your takes on a series of tire 
treads and widths. And thanks for the nice words about the bike!

I didn't plan this but Jan Heine just posted a blog about riding a 400km 
paved brevet on 2.3" Rat Trap Pass tires. He liked it! 
https://www.renehersecycles.com/too-much-tire-a-road-test/


On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-4 Damien wrote:

> Hey Eric, I'm on a 51 Sam (650b) so keep that in mind as I run through my 
> experience. I started with 42 Paselas and those felt good on long road 
> rides, then moved to 43 rock 'n' roads for some more bite on trails. I 
> wanted to go bigger yet as I was riding more on gravel and trails so I now 
> have 48 gravel king slicks. I like the tread on the gravel kings, but as I 
> find myself riding road more I'm finding the ride is a little bit bouncy, 
> sluggish and heavy on the road at that size, and I find the handling a bit 
> funny. As you're on a larger Sam, your experience might be different, but I 
> feel that on my Sam in that size, 42 in 650b felt to be just about right 
> for road and I'm planning on moving to Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass tires at 
> some point, or even back to the Paselas. 
>
> Hope that's helpful (even though I can't speak to the brevet side of your 
> question)
>
> BTW, your Sam is lovely and the Snoqualmie Pass' look just about perfectly 
> proportioned on it
>
> Damien
>
> On Tuesday, 9 August 2022 at 08:23:03 UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello people — What size tires do you all run for riding pavement and 
>> doing brevets and such? My Hillborne is set up with 44mm Snoqualmie Pass 
>> tires from RH. They are slick, I run them at around 37psi. Went with these 
>> seeing no downsides. I have clearance for maybe even 48s. Standard casing 
>> but I have a set of used extra lights heading to me soon from Vermont which 
>> I'm excited to try. 
>>
>> Curious to know what others think about tire sizes for long paved rides. 
>>
>> [image: Hillborne.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, also, Danny for the inspiring pics a while back of your reverse 
mounted Suntour Power Thumb shifters. I'm loving them set up that way. I 
got mine off a 1985 MB-3 but used they are significantly cheaper than 
Silver 2s and thumb mounts. 

On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 8:15:47 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi Danny — Yes, I went with the Technomic for proper clamp diameter as the 
> Orthos are 26.0. I went with a 12cm stem. My face-plater was an 11cm. 
>
> I wish the Orthos were 25.4 as others have mentioned. I haven't had any 
> trouble yet with the bars slipping. The bars have a lot of flex. I haven't 
> ridden any trails with them yet and I'm not a rowdy rider. Harder riders 
> have said they "flex like a Rock Shock." 
>
> They are so wide I have to sort of wiggle the bike to get it in and out of 
> my shed doorway. 
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 11:22:14 PM UTC-4 Erik wrote:
>
>> I thought the reach wasn’t too bad when I ran drops, but I had them set 
>> up on a 50mm and then 30mm stem and had them up pretty high.  You can see 
>> the drops with yellow tape in my first post.  I changed them out because I 
>> got into an accident the broke my hand and wanted a new set up with 
>> different hand positions and wanted the feeling of my hand being protected. 
>>  The Jones H-loop was perfect for that purpose as I could hold the close 
>> side of the loop and my hand was behind the outer loop reducing the chance 
>> I was going to smack my hand on something.  Or have another rider run into 
>> me again and break it.  The drops would not have worked for my desired 
>> riding position with a longer stem.  
>>
>> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:11:11 AM UTC-7 Kevin wrote:
>>
>>> I've gone through enough cockpits (8?) to wonder if I should just move 
>>> on from the bike. Would be interested to see/hear if people have had 
>>> success with drop bars on the newer Appaloosas. I've got mine to where the 
>>> measurements suggest they should be comfortable and still it feels a little 
>>> long.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How Many Bars on the Appaloosa?

[Eric Marth]

Hi Danny — Yes, I went with the Technomic for proper clamp diameter as the 
Orthos are 26.0. I went with a 12cm stem. My face-plater was an 11cm. 

I wish the Orthos were 25.4 as others have mentioned. I haven't had any 
trouble yet with the bars slipping. The bars have a lot of flex. I haven't 
ridden any trails with them yet and I'm not a rowdy rider. Harder riders 
have said they "flex like a Rock Shock." 

They are so wide I have to sort of wiggle the bike to get it in and out of 
my shed doorway. 

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 11:22:14 PM UTC-4 Erik wrote:

> I thought the reach wasn’t too bad when I ran drops, but I had them set up 
> on a 50mm and then 30mm stem and had them up pretty high.  You can see the 
> drops with yellow tape in my first post.  I changed them out because I got 
> into an accident the broke my hand and wanted a new set up with different 
> hand positions and wanted the feeling of my hand being protected.  The 
> Jones H-loop was perfect for that purpose as I could hold the close side of 
> the loop and my hand was behind the outer loop reducing the chance I was 
> going to smack my hand on something.  Or have another rider run into me 
> again and break it.  The drops would not have worked for my desired riding 
> position with a longer stem.  
>
> On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 11:11:11 AM UTC-7 Kevin wrote:
>
>> I've gone through enough cockpits (8?) to wonder if I should just move on 
>> from the bike. Would be interested to see/hear if people have had success 
>> with drop bars on the newer Appaloosas. I've got mine to where the 
>> measurements suggest they should be comfortable and still it feels a little 
>> long.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

@Bob: Rough Stuff Goes West! 

@Rich: Seems like Brandt was into traveling light even when touring. I like 
in the alpine reports where he talks about shipping his suitcase from one 
train station to the next. I just read a Tom Ritchey remembrance where he 
notes Brandt didn't even have bottle bosses on his frames. Seems he was 
partial to drinking from springs, stopping at stores and downing big 
milkshakes. 

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 1:02:24 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> You're welcome. Under biking to be sure but ride what you've got! For me, 
> the pictures of the rides he did in the Alps as well as the Sierras 
> carrying only a Carradice bag 
> are the essence of light touring; all the better for those big climbs. 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:16:04 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks again, Rich, for recommending Ray Hosler's book. I've been 
>> enjoying reading the ride reports, sounds beautiful, fun, exhausting. Hard 
>> to imagine these guys were running such narrow tires in rough country. 
>>
>> I only wish that stats on mileage and elevation were included :) 
>>
>> [image: poster2.jpg]
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad everyone who has said so is digging the pictures and reports. 
>>> The guy definitely tackled some beautiful and stunning rides, not to 
>>> mention mileage. I tallied one of his tours and it was something like 1,800 
>>> miles and over 100,000 feet of climbing. I think he was in his 70s at the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:35:57 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow Eric! Those photos are fantastic. I tried to read Jobst' reports, 
>>>> but came up short.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> Corwin
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the tip, Rich, that sounds really cool. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the photo archive. For more stories and pics -- 
>>>>>> specifically about the Bay Area rides Jobst and his pals did check out 
>>>>>> Ray Hosler's recent book "Once Upon a Ride". 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:54:29 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow Eric, what a resource.
>>>>>>> Thank you so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

@Bob: Rough Stuff Goes West! 

@Rich: Seems like Jobst was partial to drinking from springs, stopping at 
stores and downing big milkshakes. 

On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 1:02:24 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> You're welcome. Under biking to be sure but ride what you've got! For me, 
> the pictures of the rides he did in the Alps as well as the Sierras 
> carrying only a Carradice bag 
> are the essence of light touring; all the better for those big climbs. 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:16:04 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks again, Rich, for recommending Ray Hosler's book. I've been 
>> enjoying reading the ride reports, sounds beautiful, fun, exhausting. Hard 
>> to imagine these guys were running such narrow tires in rough country. 
>>
>> I only wish that stats on mileage and elevation were included :) 
>>
>> [image: poster2.jpg]
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:58:02 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad everyone who has said so is digging the pictures and reports. 
>>> The guy definitely tackled some beautiful and stunning rides, not to 
>>> mention mileage. I tallied one of his tours and it was something like 1,800 
>>> miles and over 100,000 feet of climbing. I think he was in his 70s at the 
>>> time!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:35:57 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow Eric! Those photos are fantastic. I tried to read Jobst' reports, 
>>>> but came up short.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much.
>>>>
>>>> Corwin
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the tip, Rich, that sounds really cool. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for the photo archive. For more stories and pics -- 
>>>>>> specifically about the Bay Area rides Jobst and his pals did check out 
>>>>>> Ray Hosler's recent book "Once Upon a Ride". 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:54:29 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow Eric, what a resource.
>>>>>>> Thank you so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wool jerseys, XT v-brakes, 26.8 seatpost, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Front derailer has sold. 
On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Some further price drops. Hit me with an offer :) 
>
> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $25
>
>
> This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Let’s call it normal 
> weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks of 
> discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
> Made in USA. Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $25
>
>
> Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Also labeled a large. Lighter 
> weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left sleeve, small 
> hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or discoloration. 
> Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $20
>
>
> Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. 
>
> 05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $10
>
>
> This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a 
> year. 
>
> 07. A pair of Jandd grocery panniers — $100
> Very lightly used! These are sized to fit a brown grocery bag. With 
> shoulder straps. $90/each from Jandd. 
> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 12:47:50 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Shimano XT Deore v brakes have sold. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Price reductions and updates. Thanks all! 
>>>
>>> Prices do not include shipping. 
>>>
>>> Pictures are here. 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $30
>>> 
This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Short sleeves. Let’s 
>>> call it normal weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small 
>>> flecks of discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as 
>>> shown. Great condition, overall. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they 
>>> are no longer in production as they recently closed. Made in USA. Pit to 
>>> pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>>>
>>> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $30
>>> 
Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Short sleeves. Also labeled a 
>>> large. Lighter weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left 
>>> sleeve, small hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or 
>>> discoloration. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they are no longer in 
>>> production as they recently closed. Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit 
>>> to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>>>
>>> 03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $25
>>> 
Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. With that Riv seatpost 
>>> size. 
>>>
>>> 05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $15

>>> This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a 
>>> year. Use it on a wide-low Silver crank. 
>>>
>>> 06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $60
>>> Dust boots included but not pictured. Original mounting bolts are 
>>> missing as well. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 4:50:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cross-posted to RBW and iBOB. 
>>>>
>>>> I have a few things for sale. Prices do not include shipping. I’ll 
>>>> calculate shipping based on weight and mailing from me in 22401 to you. If 
>>>> something strikes you I am open to offers, especially if bundling! 
>>>>
>>>> Payment via PayPal Friends & Family. Please contact me off list. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Pictures are here. 
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $50
>>>> This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Let’s call it normal 
>>>> weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks of 
>>>> discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
>>>> Made in USA. Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>>>>
>>>> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $50 
>>>> Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Also labeled a large. Lighter 
>>>> weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left sleeve, small 
>>>> hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or discoloration. 
>>>> Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 
>>>> 29”. 

[RBW] Re: Where to get pins made for my Rivendell Ride?

[Eric Marth]

Hi Leah — For nice cast and enamel pins check out a company like Wizard 
Pins or search for "custom enamel pins."

If you only need a handful the unit price could be quite high, $8 to $12. 
There's also a longer lead time as these are made in Asia and then shipped 
to you. 

https://wizardpins.com/collections/die-struck-pins/products/antique-pins

On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 8:50:30 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> This person does pins and patches and whatnot. 
>
> https://fallscreekoutfitters.com/
>
>
> https://instagram.com/fallscreekoutfitters?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
> On Saturday, August 6, 2022 at 4:44:03 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I think there are makers on this forum who are artistic and talented and 
>> can design pins to commemorate a ride. I’m thinking of a nice pin and not a 
>> cheap button. We have a Rivendell Ride coming up just in time for fall 
>> colors in October and I wanted a pin (I’m kind of over patches since they 
>> are too permanent for my liking) to celebrate it. 
>>
>> Anyone know of anyone?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leah
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

[Eric Marth]

Joe — I sometimes don't recognize names from the forum so I'll plug their 
email address into the search bar here on the group to see what turns up. 
Dozens of posts going back 10 years? Let's party! No posts...at all? Uh, 
give me a minute. 


On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 7:33:08 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> If ghosters then show back up a few months (or years) later for something 
> else, I usually remember them and so they lose the privilege of free 
> packing, Best Rate Shipping etc. 
> Or I just raise the price 
>
> peter stock
> toronto canada
>
> On Thu., Aug. 4, 2022, 7:14 p.m. Joe Mullins,  wrote:
>
>> I’ve listed stuff for sale and gotten those types of “ghosted” messages 
>> from people who’s names I’ve never seen participate in discussions. I 
>> certainly won’t be holding any items for anyone just because they were the 
>> first to reach out. If someone says they want it I’ll hold there spot in 
>> line, especially if I recognize their name. Perhaps these “ghosters” should 
>> be put on the radar of the moderator? Three strikes you’re out?
>>
>> Just my $.02
>>
>> Joe in Los Angeles 
>>
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite 
>> reply. Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests. 
>>
>> It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests, 
>> you set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc. 
>>
>> Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who 
>> doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give 
>> preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and 
>> contributors — members, not lurkers!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the 
>>>> first reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the 
>>>> shipping price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer 
>>>> the 
>>>> trick is to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm 
>>>> constantly being ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly 
>>>> stopped working. 
>>>>
>>>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used 
>>>> to ghosts?? 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Potential buyer etiquette

[Eric Marth]

Joe, I think it's fair to expect someone to send you a quick, polite reply. 
Especially give this is a community of people with shared interests. 

It's tough to make sales happen when you're fielding multiple requests, you 
set something aside, someone doesn't follow up, etc. 

Though I must admit I don't think a post like this will sway anyone who 
doesn't follow up to start doing so. When I sell stuff I definitely give 
preference to people whose names I recognize as frequent posters and 
contributors — members, not lurkers!

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I guess it's spelled yea. So yay. 
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 3:28:35 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Ok kids, my recent experiences with folks who never reply after the first 
>> reach-out are starting to make me a little crazy. Ask for the shipping 
>> price, make an offer, knock yourselves out, but after I answer the trick is 
>> to tell me yay or nay. This used to be common but now I'm constantly being 
>> ghosted by people who act like their email suddenly stopped working. 
>>
>> Is this a thing now? Am I just old and crotchety and need to get used to 
>> ghosts?? 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

I'm glad everyone who has said so is digging the pictures and reports. The 
guy definitely tackled some beautiful and stunning rides, not to mention 
mileage. I tallied one of his tours and it was something like 1,800 miles 
and over 100,000 feet of climbing. I think he was in his 70s at the time!

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 5:35:57 PM UTC-4 cz...@sonic.net wrote:

> Wow Eric! Those photos are fantastic. I tried to read Jobst' reports, but 
> came up short.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Corwin
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:26:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip, Rich, that sounds really cool. 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the photo archive. For more stories and pics -- 
>>> specifically about the Bay Area rides Jobst and his pals did check out 
>>> Ray Hosler's recent book "Once Upon a Ride". 
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rich in ATL
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:54:29 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Wow Eric, what a resource.
 Thank you so much.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for the tip, Rich, that sounds really cool. 

On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 11:05:34 AM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Thank you for the photo archive. For more stories and pics -- specifically 
> about the Bay Area rides Jobst and his pals did check out 
> Ray Hosler's recent book "Once Upon a Ride". 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:54:29 PM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Wow Eric, what a resource.
>> Thank you so much.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

Well I went ahead and scraped that old Palo Alto page of 90 pictures. It's 
everything I could get to load for me. Now on Google Drive, easier to 
browse, easier to enjoy. More to love. 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1KB3SM4oXCIU1HcTSb-Z92AJ_XNg4cm-_?usp=sharing

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:45:20 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Garth, I understand your are "Meta-averse" and I can't blame you. Rather 
> than access the instagram link check out my Trento Bike link above for 
> plenty of photos and great ride reports. Here it is again: 
> https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html
>
> There's also an archived view of some of Brandt's pictures from the Palo 
> Alto bike shop here: 
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20041114063504/http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/alps_photos/
>
> [image: f_digital1.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:07:14 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I'm glad they're sharing some of his ride photos, for sure! 
>>
>> There are some online but mostly hard to get to on the Internet Archive. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-4 Addison wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like only 3 photos so far but they only just started posting on 
>>> July 25th.  Nice that the account is set up with family permission to share 
>>> photos.  I've always find them pretty breathtaking images.
>>>
>>> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>>>
>>> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>>> <http://www.washoeschools.net/aact> 
>>>
>>> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>>>
>>> Portfolio and Blog <http://addisonwilhite.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:39 AM Garth  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or is it just the three photos ?
>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:35:55 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It looks like facecrook in that you have log in/register to view 
>>>>> anything with instascam ?  Anyone know of simple viewer anonymously ? 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:13:52 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a new instagram account with photos from Jobst Brandt's 
>>>>>> riding and touring, sanctioned by his family. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/jobstbrandt.ridebike/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've really enjoyed reading his archived alpine tour diaries. 
>>>>>> Worthwhile if you haven't dug in. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

Garth, I understand your are "Meta-averse" and I can't blame you. Rather 
than access the instagram link check out my Trento Bike link above for 
plenty of photos and great ride reports. Here it is again: 
https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html

There's also an archived view of some of Brandt's pictures from the Palo 
Alto bike shop here: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20041114063504/http://www.paloaltobicycles.com/alps_photos/

[image: f_digital1.jpg]

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 3:07:14 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> I'm glad they're sharing some of his ride photos, for sure! 
>
> There are some online but mostly hard to get to on the Internet Archive. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-4 Addison wrote:
>
>> Looks like only 3 photos so far but they only just started posting on 
>> July 25th.  Nice that the account is set up with family permission to share 
>> photos.  I've always find them pretty breathtaking images.
>>
>> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>>
>> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>> <http://www.washoeschools.net/aact> 
>>
>> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>>
>> Portfolio and Blog <http://addisonwilhite.com>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:39 AM Garth  wrote:
>>
>>> Or is it just the three photos ?
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:35:55 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like facecrook in that you have log in/register to view 
>>>> anything with instascam ?  Anyone know of simple viewer anonymously ? 
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:13:52 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's a new instagram account with photos from Jobst Brandt's riding 
>>>>> and touring, sanctioned by his family. 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.instagram.com/jobstbrandt.ridebike/
>>>>>
>>>>> I've really enjoyed reading his archived alpine tour diaries. 
>>>>> Worthwhile if you haven't dug in. 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

I'm glad they're sharing some of his ride photos, for sure! 

There are some online but mostly hard to get to on the Internet Archive. 

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 2:01:39 PM UTC-4 Addison wrote:

> Looks like only 3 photos so far but they only just started posting on July 
> 25th.  Nice that the account is set up with family permission to share 
> photos.  I've always find them pretty breathtaking images.
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Portfolio and Blog 
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:39 AM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Or is it just the three photos ?
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:35:55 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like facecrook in that you have log in/register to view 
>>> anything with instascam ?  Anyone know of simple viewer anonymously ? 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 1:13:52 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There's a new instagram account with photos from Jobst Brandt's riding 
 and touring, sanctioned by his family. 

 https://www.instagram.com/jobstbrandt.ridebike/

 I've really enjoyed reading his archived alpine tour diaries. 
 Worthwhile if you haven't dug in. 

 https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html

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[RBW] Jobst Brandt photo archive on instagram

[Eric Marth]

There's a new instagram account with photos from Jobst Brandt's riding and 
touring, sanctioned by his family. 

https://www.instagram.com/jobstbrandt.ridebike/

I've really enjoyed reading his archived alpine tour diaries. Worthwhile if 
you haven't dug in. 

https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki For Sale... Not Mine

[Eric Marth]

Very cool, thanks for scraping the info for us, Max!

On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 2:21:10 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:

> Yeah  no kidding.  That's a screaming deal on a bike that's that sought 
> after and in that condition.  Beautiful color too - not quite like my more 
> common, yellower ones that I used to call butterscotch but - I now realize 
> - aren't.   It's one of the later run ones - without the rear brake hanger 
> bridge but with more tire clearance and the wider (RC-3?) fork cown.  
> Probably still Toyo made, still has my favorite  pointy lugs and the 
> double-tapered seat stays.  Hope someone here grabs it!
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 8:50:54 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Thanks Max.  Too bad no color is mentioned, it may have been my original 
>> Saluki if it is green and has centerpulls.  That bike was just too big for 
>> me.  Bike is worth a minimum of 2k if in condition as described, maybe 
>> more. 
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 10:25 AM, maxcr  wrote:
>>
>> Here you go, no connection to the seller, here is the ad info and 
>> comments:
>>
>> Seller: Erhard Rathsack
>> >>
>> I haven't ridden this bike in many years and would like to sell it. If 
>> you are interested, let me know and I can tell the bike's history, etc
>> 56cm seat tube, 32" standover. I bought it around 2005 I think
>> I am in Reno, if you are near would you like to check it out and ride it?
>> The Saluki is 56st, 58tt, 32" standover, 650c wheels. The frame has very 
>> little use, less than a year and 1000 miles. The components started off on 
>> my old Bleriot which I purchased at RBW in Walnut Creek. After a few years, 
>> I swapped out the Bleriot frame for the Saluki then shortly after 
>> stopped riding the bike because my cycling commute ended. The bike is 
>> located in Reno, NV. The bike rides all Riv, really comfortable. There's a 
>> lot of Nitto, Sugino, and Silver components. I estimate the year of the 
>> bike to be in the 2005 +/- 3 years. This bike was one of the first modern 
>> era 650b bikes.
>> I looked at what people are "asking" for Rivs on EBay and that was about 
>> $2500. I'd take less than that but I am not really sure what a fair price 
>> is. I think it would be somewhere between $1500 and $2000. I'd take any 
>> suggestions on what I should ask.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 10:17:28 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I can't access either. Would be nice if someone could share a picture, 
>>> price and location. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 mike goldman wrote:
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki For Sale... Not Mine

[Eric Marth]

I can't access either. Would be nice if someone could share a picture, 
price and location. 

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[RBW] Re: Susie W. Longbolts Build video

[Eric Marth]

This came up in my feed and I watched this morning. Nice build, great vid, 
cute puppy. 

Let us know how those applied scraps of bar tape hold up. 

How's the lever/hand feel on the brakes? I've found recently with my Paul 
cantis that backing them off gives me better stopping. 

Thanks for putting in the work on the build video and sharing!

On Saturday, July 30, 2022 at 7:36:41 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> I finally finished it folks , please enjoy!
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wool jerseys, XT v-brakes, 26.8 seatpost, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Shimano XT Deore v brakes have sold. 

On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 7:56:58 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Price reductions and updates. Thanks all! 
>
> Prices do not include shipping. 
>
> Pictures are here. 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
>  
>
> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $30
> 
This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Short sleeves. Let’s call 
> it normal weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks 
> of discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
> Great condition, overall. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they are no 
> longer in production as they recently closed. Made in USA. Pit to pit is 
> 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $30
> 
Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Short sleeves. Also labeled a 
> large. Lighter weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left 
> sleeve, small hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or 
> discoloration. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they are no longer in 
> production as they recently closed. Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit 
> to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $25
> 
Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. With that Riv seatpost 
> size. 
>
> 05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $15

> This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a 
> year. Use it on a wide-low Silver crank. 
>
> 06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $60
> Dust boots included but not pictured. Original mounting bolts are missing 
> as well. 
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 4:50:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Cross-posted to RBW and iBOB. 
>>
>> I have a few things for sale. Prices do not include shipping. I’ll 
>> calculate shipping based on weight and mailing from me in 22401 to you. If 
>> something strikes you I am open to offers, especially if bundling! 
>>
>> Payment via PayPal Friends & Family. Please contact me off list. Thanks!
>>
>> Pictures are here. 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
>>  
>>
>> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $50
>> This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Let’s call it normal 
>> weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks of 
>> discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
>> Made in USA. Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>>
>> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $50 
>> Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Also labeled a large. Lighter 
>> weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left sleeve, small 
>> hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or discoloration. 
>> Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>>
>> 03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $40
>> Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. 
>>
>> 04. Shimano XTR M951 rear derailer, rapid rise — $25
>> I purchased this recently and found the cage appears to be bent and does 
>> not align with the cassette. If you would like to try your hand at bending 
>> the cage here’s your chance! Medium cage. I believe Eben Weiss has this 
>> same derailer on one of his Rivendells and Grant gave it to him, FWIW. 
>>
>> 05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $25
>> This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a 
>> year. 
>>
>> 06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $75
>> Dust boots included but not pictured. 
>>
>> 07. Outer Shell stem caddy — $40
>> Great condition, some surface dirt, nbd. Nylon straps have been trimmed 
>> and cuts melted. Long velcro stabilizer loop included (uncut). 
>>
>> 08. Suntour Sprint downtube shifters — $15
>> The classic shifters that the Riv Silver V1s are based on. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Wool jerseys, XT v-brakes, 26.8 seatpost, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Price reductions and updates. Thanks all! 

Prices do not include shipping. 

Pictures are here. 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
 

01. Protogs wool jersey — $30

This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Short sleeves. Let’s call 
it normal weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks 
of discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
Great condition, overall. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they are no 
longer in production as they recently closed. Made in USA. Pit to pit is 
16”. Overall length is 29”. 

02. Protogs wool jersey — $30

Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Short sleeves. Also labeled a 
large. Lighter weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left 
sleeve, small hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or 
discoloration. Similar to Kucharick jerseys, though they are no longer in 
production as they recently closed. Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit 
to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 

03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $25

Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. With that Riv seatpost size. 

05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $15

This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a year. 
Use it on a wide-low Silver crank. 

06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $60
Dust boots included but not pictured. Original mounting bolts are missing 
as well. 


On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 4:50:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Cross-posted to RBW and iBOB. 
>
> I have a few things for sale. Prices do not include shipping. I’ll 
> calculate shipping based on weight and mailing from me in 22401 to you. If 
> something strikes you I am open to offers, especially if bundling! 
>
> Payment via PayPal Friends & Family. Please contact me off list. Thanks!
>
> Pictures are here. 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/12tiens_iBEv0Ly-3BFeyHVzLYbv7pVor?usp=sharing>
>  
>
> 01. Protogs wool jersey — $50
> This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Let’s call it normal 
> weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks of 
> discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
> Made in USA. Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 02. Protogs wool jersey — $50 
> Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Also labeled a large. Lighter 
> weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left sleeve, small 
> hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or discoloration. 
> Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 
>
> 03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $40
> Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. 
>
> 04. Shimano XTR M951 rear derailer, rapid rise — $25
> I purchased this recently and found the cage appears to be bent and does 
> not align with the cassette. If you would like to try your hand at bending 
> the cage here’s your chance! Medium cage. I believe Eben Weiss has this 
> same derailer on one of his Rivendells and Grant gave it to him, FWIW. 
>
> 05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $25
> This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a 
> year. 
>
> 06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $75
> Dust boots included but not pictured. 
>
> 07. Outer Shell stem caddy — $40
> Great condition, some surface dirt, nbd. Nylon straps have been trimmed 
> and cuts melted. Long velcro stabilizer loop included (uncut). 
>
> 08. Suntour Sprint downtube shifters — $15
> The classic shifters that the Riv Silver V1s are based on. 
>

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[RBW] FS: Wool jerseys, rapid rise mech, XT v-brakes, etc.

[Eric Marth]

 

Cross-posted to RBW and iBOB. 

I have a few things for sale. Prices do not include shipping. I’ll 
calculate shipping based on weight and mailing from me in 22401 to you. If 
something strikes you I am open to offers, especially if bundling! 

Payment via PayPal Friends & Family. Please contact me off list. Thanks!

Pictures are here. 

 

01. Protogs wool jersey — $50
This is labeled a size large, 100% wool jersey. Let’s call it normal 
weight. Three pockets with buttons in the back. Some small flecks of 
discoloration across the front, some stains at front and back as shown. 
Made in USA. Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 

02. Protogs wool jersey — $50 
Another yellow Protogs jersey, all wool. Also labeled a large. Lighter 
weight wool than jersey #1. Two small pinholes in the left sleeve, small 
hole near the middle pocket at the rear. No stains or discoloration. 
Machine washable Superwash wool.  Pit to pit is 16”. Overall length is 29”. 

03. SR Laprade seatpost, 26.8 — $40
Vintage seatpost with great paint and patina. 

04. Shimano XTR M951 rear derailer, rapid rise — $25
I purchased this recently and found the cage appears to be bent and does 
not align with the cassette. If you would like to try your hand at bending 
the cage here’s your chance! Medium cage. I believe Eben Weiss has this 
same derailer on one of his Rivendells and Grant gave it to him, FWIW. 

05. Shimano Deore FD M618 — $25
This came off of my 2021 Riv-built Appaloosa and was used for about a year. 

06. Shimano XT Deore V-brakes. BR-M739. One bikesworth — $75
Dust boots included but not pictured. 

07. Outer Shell stem caddy — $40
Great condition, some surface dirt, nbd. Nylon straps have been trimmed and 
cuts melted. Long velcro stabilizer loop included (uncut). 

08. Suntour Sprint downtube shifters — $15
The classic shifters that the Riv Silver V1s are based on. 

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[RBW] Nick Offerman reflects on cycling (and more!)

[Eric Marth]

Offerman has a new column in Outside, the first essay centers on his 
cycling commutes in NYC and Los Angeles. 

Enjoy!

https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/love-humor/nick-offerman-column-thoreau-candy-ass/

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Re: [RBW] Mechanical: Bent rapid rise derailer cage

[Eric Marth]

Thanks all for your replies and insight. I took another look at the cage 
and there's no play between the cage plates and the main body, it won't 
change alignment when it's under tension with a chain installed. Also 
eyeballing the cage it's definitely out of square with the derailer body 
and the hanger bolt. 

@Joe Bernard: Yes, it's out of alignment in all positions. 

@Eric Norris: There's no play in the cage, if I add some tension with a 
chain it pivots but it's still out of alignment. 

@row2nowhere: As two other derailers work just fine on the same bike I am 
fairly confident it's not the hanger. 

@Bill Lindsay: I had a similar thought but the threads are in good shape 
and I was careful not to cross-thread when I installed. 

@Daniel M: No evidence of an accident as far as I can see. Some lite 
scrapes and scuffs you might expect on a derailer from 1997. 

@Patrick: Yes, it might be time to try some gentle persuasion if not 
finesse!

On Wednesday, July 13, 2022 at 10:39:53 AM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> No need for a bench vise for the necessary torquing. I recall fixing a 
> similar problem on a RD whose make and model I've long forgotten (tho' 8-sp 
> XTs have long be a favorite) by sticking a 12"-long screwdriver into the 
> cage the shoving it in the right direction. The RD worked fine after that.
>
> As always, proceed at your own risk.
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 1:15 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Hey hey hey everyone. I recently picked up a Shimano XTR rapid rise mech, 
>> the M951. When it came in the mail all seemed good to go. Nice and clean! 
>> But I went to install it on my Appaloosa and found the cage is out of 
>> alignment. Picture attached. The pulley wheels are not vertically aligned 
>> with the cogs of the cassette.
>>
>> I had a 2021 Deore rear mech on the bike when I started, it was working 
>> fine. I ended up putting a XTR M952 on the bike and it works great! So the 
>> issue is definitely with this rapid rise XTR. 
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a fix for this? I wanted to check with the group, 
>> seek some wisdom, before I mounted the mech in my bench vise and started 
>> torquing. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: HUGE Rivendell archive update: Catalogs, flyers, brochures and more

[Eric Marth]

Hi everyone. Small update: Reed added the Hunqapillar brochure to the 
archive. 

http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 8:59:16 AM UTC-5 John A. Bennett wrote:

> Great to see this again, Eric. I *might* have a copy...somewhere. 
>
> Thanks! 
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 10:08:47 AM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I've spent the last several months scanning my collection of Rivendell 
>> catalogs, flyers, ads and brochures. 
>>
>> Reed, who hosts the archive of Rivendell Readers at 
>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/, kindly added all of my scans to the site. 
>> Now there is quite a trove of Rivendell ephemera. 
>>
>> He created a new link (the old one still works!): 
>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/
>>
>> Enjoy reading! All of the files are text searchable. If you have anything 
>> that we haven't included please send me a DM. 
>>
>>
>>- All 20 Rivendell catalogs
>>   -  Catalogs from 1996-2018
>>- Frame brochures
>>   - 1995 frames mailer
>>   - Atlantis and Atlantis 2
>>   - Rambouillet
>>   - Romulus
>>   - Rivendell Frame Brochure
>>   - An early frame paint chart
>>   - *I'm missing the Cheviot brochure*
>>- Flyers
>>   - Nine flyers from 2002–2009
>>   - *I'm missing Hiawatha Holidays No. 1 *
>>- Ads
>>   - An add for the reader from Vintage Bicycle Quarterly
>>   - A 2014 Cheviot ad
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Suntour mech is gone, thanks. 
On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:05:43 PM UTC-4 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Right on thanks I'll let him know!
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:20 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Joe — It was too short for a 1985 MB-3, 23" frame. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Eric,
>>>
>>> Which frame was the fork too short for? The guy I sold my 89 MB-2 
>>> expressed interest in a fork that a rack can mount too and so I’m inquiring 
>>> on his behalf. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2022, at 8:15 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> A few people have asked about the fork and to clarify, it's for 26" 
>>> wheels. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's an updated list. Thanks again! 
>>>>
>>>> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
>>>> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black 
>>>> fork from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of 
>>>> steerer is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs 
>>>> through paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of 
>>>> steerer: 950.3 grams. Please let me know if you need additional 
>>>> measurements. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*This is a beautiful, soft sweater 
>>>> made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but it's just a touch too short in 
>>>> the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! Small hole as shown. Cozy as all 
>>>> get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be touched up with a sweater 
>>>> stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see measurements. 
>>>> Pit to pit: 22”
>>>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
>>>> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*I know it's summer but that hasn't 
>>>> stopped me from culling winter stuffs. This sweater is from the 1980s and 
>>>> made in England from new British wool. I am convinced it's from the same 
>>>> mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for Rivendell. The knit and color 
>>>> are identical. The cuff and ribbing details are also the same. This 
>>>> sweater 
>>>> is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm garments. Nice henley collar. A great 
>>>> sweater, I have two of them. At one point Grant asked me to send detailed 
>>>> pics and measurements for him to send to their sweater makers because he 
>>>> liked the design but... nothing ever came of it. 
>>>>
>>>> Pit to pit: 23”
>>>> Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
>>>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*This is missing 
>>>> the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey wheel. Yours 
>>>> for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and dirty, but 
>>>> please keep the price in mind! 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*Missing lower jockey wheel, yours 
>>>> for shipping. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:45:56 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the interest so far. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I've greyed out the stuff that is pending sale. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
>>>>> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black 
>>>>> fork from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of 
>>>>> steerer is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some 
>>>>> scuffs 
>>>>> through paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of 
>>>>> steerer: 950.3 grams. Please let me know if you need additional 
>>>>> measurements.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
>>>>> This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. 
>>>>> It has a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to 
>>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Joe — It was too short for a 1985 MB-3, 23" frame. 

On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 11:24:11 AM UTC-4 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Eric,
>
> Which frame was the fork too short for? The guy I sold my 89 MB-2 
> expressed interest in a fork that a rack can mount too and so I’m inquiring 
> on his behalf. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe
>
> On Jun 28, 2022, at 8:15 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> A few people have asked about the fork and to clarify, it's for 26" 
> wheels. 
>
>
> Thanks. 
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Here's an updated list. Thanks again! 
>>
>> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
>> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black 
>> fork from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of 
>> steerer is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs 
>> through paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of 
>> steerer: 950.3 grams. Please let me know if you need additional 
>> measurements. 
>>
>>
>> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*This is a beautiful, soft sweater 
>> made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but it's just a touch too short in 
>> the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! Small hole as shown. Cozy as all 
>> get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be touched up with a sweater stone. 
>>  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see measurements. 
>> Pit to pit: 22”
>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
>> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
>>
>>
>> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*I know it's summer but that hasn't 
>> stopped me from culling winter stuffs. This sweater is from the 1980s and 
>> made in England from new British wool. I am convinced it's from the same 
>> mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for Rivendell. The knit and color 
>> are identical. The cuff and ribbing details are also the same. This sweater 
>> is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm garments. Nice henley collar. A great 
>> sweater, I have two of them. At one point Grant asked me to send detailed 
>> pics and measurements for him to send to their sweater makers because he 
>> liked the design but... nothing ever came of it. 
>>
>> Pit to pit: 23”
>> Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”
>>
>>
>> *Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*This is missing 
>> the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey wheel. Yours 
>> for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and dirty, but 
>> please keep the price in mind! 
>>
>>
>> *Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for 
>> shipping. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:45:56 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the interest so far. 
>>>
>>> I've greyed out the stuff that is pending sale. 
>>>
>>>
>>> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
>>> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black 
>>> fork from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of 
>>> steerer is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs 
>>> through paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of 
>>> steerer: 950.3 grams. Please let me know if you need additional 
>>> measurements.
>>>
>>> *Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
>>> This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It 
>>> has a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it 
>>> and repair it. Repair kits included. 
>>>
>>> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
>>> This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go 
>>> but it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
>>> Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
>>> touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
>>> measurements. 
>>>
>>> Pit to pit: 22”
>>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
>>> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
>>> *Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
>>> I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, 
>>> no issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
>>> same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 
>>>
>>> *LL Bean 

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

A few people have asked about the fork and to clarify, it's for 26" wheels. 

Thanks. 

On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Here's an updated list. Thanks again! 
>
> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
> from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
> is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
> paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
> grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements. 
>
>
> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*This is a beautiful, soft sweater made 
> in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but it's just a touch too short in the 
> sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! Small hole as shown. Cozy as all 
> get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be touched up with a sweater stone. 
>  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see measurements. 
> Pit to pit: 22”
> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
>
>
> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped 
> me from culling winter stuffs. This sweater is from the 1980s and made in 
> England from new British wool. I am convinced it's from the same mill that 
> makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for Rivendell. The knit and color are 
> identical. The cuff and ribbing details are also the same. This sweater is 
> a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm garments. Nice henley collar. A great 
> sweater, I have two of them. At one point Grant asked me to send detailed 
> pics and measurements for him to send to their sweater makers because he 
> liked the design but... nothing ever came of it. 
>
> Pit to pit: 23”
> Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
> Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”
>
>
> *Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*This is missing 
> the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey wheel. Yours 
> for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and dirty, but 
> please keep the price in mind! 
>
>
> *Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for 
> shipping. 
>
> On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:45:56 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the interest so far. 
>>
>> I've greyed out the stuff that is pending sale. 
>>
>>
>> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
>> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black 
>> fork from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of 
>> steerer is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs 
>> through paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of 
>> steerer: 950.3 grams. Please let me know if you need additional 
>> measurements.
>>
>> *Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
>> This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It 
>> has a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it 
>> and repair it. Repair kits included. 
>>
>> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
>> This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go 
>> but it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
>> Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
>> touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
>> measurements. 
>>
>> Pit to pit: 22”
>> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
>> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
>> *Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
>> I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, 
>> no issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
>> same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 
>>
>> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*
>> I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped me from culling winter stuffs. 
>> This sweater is from the 1980s and made in England from new British wool. I 
>> am convinced it's from the same mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for 
>> Rivendell. The knit and color are identical. The cuff and ribbing details 
>> are also the same. This sweater is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm 
>> garments. Nice henley collar. A great sweater, I have two of them. At one 
>> point Grant asked me to send detailed pics and measurements for him to send 
>> to their sweater makers because he liked the design but... nothing ever 
>> came of it. 
>>
>> Pit to pit: 23”
>> Pit to cuff: 18.

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Here's an updated list. Thanks again! 

*Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements. 


*Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*This is a beautiful, soft sweater made 
in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but it's just a touch too short in the 
sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! Small hole as shown. Cozy as all 
get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be touched up with a sweater stone. 
 Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see measurements. 
Pit to pit: 22”
Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”


*LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped 
me from culling winter stuffs. This sweater is from the 1980s and made in 
England from new British wool. I am convinced it's from the same mill that 
makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for Rivendell. The knit and color are 
identical. The cuff and ribbing details are also the same. This sweater is 
a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm garments. Nice henley collar. A great 
sweater, I have two of them. At one point Grant asked me to send detailed 
pics and measurements for him to send to their sweater makers because he 
liked the design but... nothing ever came of it. 

Pit to pit: 23”
Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”


*Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*This is missing the 
hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey wheel. Yours for 
shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and dirty, but please 
keep the price in mind! 


*Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for 
shipping. 

On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 5:45:56 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Thanks for all the interest so far. 
>
> I've greyed out the stuff that is pending sale. 
>
>
> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
> from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
> is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
> paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
> grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements.
>
> *Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
> This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It 
> has a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it 
> and repair it. Repair kits included. 
>
> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
> This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go 
> but it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
> Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
> touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
> measurements. 
>
> Pit to pit: 22”
> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
> *Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
> I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, no 
> issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
> same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 
>
> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*
> I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped me from culling winter stuffs. 
> This sweater is from the 1980s and made in England from new British wool. I 
> am convinced it's from the same mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for 
> Rivendell. The knit and color are identical. The cuff and ribbing details 
> are also the same. This sweater is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm 
> garments. Nice henley collar. A great sweater, I have two of them. At one 
> point Grant asked me to send detailed pics and measurements for him to send 
> to their sweater makers because he liked the design but... nothing ever 
> came of it. 
>
> Pit to pit: 23”
> Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
> Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”
>
> *Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*
> This is missing the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper 
> jockey wheel. Yours for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy 
> and dirty, but please keep the price in mind! 
>
> *Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*
> Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for shipping. 
>
> *Shimano XT front derailer, FDM771: $5*
> Braze-on type. Brand new in the box. 
>
> *Bridgestone 1985 MB-2 Bull

[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Thanks for all the interest so far. 

I've greyed out the stuff that is pending sale. 


*Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements.

*Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It has 
a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it and 
repair it. Repair kits included. 

*Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but 
it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
measurements. 

Pit to pit: 22”
Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
*Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, no 
issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 

*LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*
I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped me from culling winter stuffs. 
This sweater is from the 1980s and made in England from new British wool. I 
am convinced it's from the same mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for 
Rivendell. The knit and color are identical. The cuff and ribbing details 
are also the same. This sweater is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm 
garments. Nice henley collar. A great sweater, I have two of them. At one 
point Grant asked me to send detailed pics and measurements for him to send 
to their sweater makers because he liked the design but... nothing ever 
came of it. 

Pit to pit: 23”
Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”

*Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*
This is missing the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey 
wheel. Yours for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and 
dirty, but please keep the price in mind! 

*Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*
Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for shipping. 

*Shimano XT front derailer, FDM771: $5*
Braze-on type. Brand new in the box. 

*Bridgestone 1985 MB-2 Bullmoose bars: Free*
These are original equipment from the MB-2, factory painted in shadow blue. 
With integrated front cable hanger. Pics on request. 
On Sunday, June 26, 2022 at 12:31:42 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Purging some stuff, hopefully you can find a use for the things below. 
>
> Prices do not include shipping. Please email me directly to arrange 
> purchase (eric marth - at - gee mail dot calm). 
>
> Venmo or PayPal Friends and/or Family. Thank you!
>
> Pics are here. 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1u-eYWlBw5VAUWlvnc-cAO9wuX2LghDfC?usp=sharing>
>
> *Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
> Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
> from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
> is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
> paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
> grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements.
>
> *Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
> This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It 
> has a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it 
> and repair it. Repair kits included. 
>
> *Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
> This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go 
> but it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
> Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
> touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
> measurements. 
>
> Pit to pit: 22”
> Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
> Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
> *Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
> I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, no 
> issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
> same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 
>
> *LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*
> I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped me from culling winter stuffs. 
> This sweater is from the 1980s and made in England from new British wool. I 
> am convinced it's from

[RBW] FS: Rivendell tee, Big Agnes pad, derailers (mostly free), wool, etc.

[Eric Marth]

Purging some stuff, hopefully you can find a use for the things below. 

Prices do not include shipping. Please email me directly to arrange 
purchase (eric marth - at - gee mail dot calm). 

Venmo or PayPal Friends and/or Family. Thank you!

Pics are here. 
<https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1u-eYWlBw5VAUWlvnc-cAO9wuX2LghDfC?usp=sharing>

*Spinner Fork 1-Inch Threaded 22.2x27  Black: $50*
Picked this up for a project but it was too short for my frame. Black fork 
from Spinner, stamped 1990. From crown (where race sits) to top of steerer 
is 21.4cm. There’s 3cm of threads. Nice shape overall, some scuffs through 
paint here and there. Weight appears to be written on top of steerer: 950.3 
grams. Please let me know if you need additional measurements.

*Big Agnes Insulated Air Core sleeping pad: Free  *
This is free for shipping. I got it used and have never slept on it. It has 
a small hole somewhere but I haven't spent much time trying to find it and 
repair it. Repair kits included. 

*Malinmore Irish wool sweater: $25*
This is a beautiful, soft sweater made in Ireland. I'm sad to let it go but 
it's just a touch too short in the sleeves and overall. Vintage stuff! 
Small hole as shown. Cozy as all get-out. Some pilling throughout, could be 
touched up with a sweater stone.  Labeled a 42 but it's smaller, please see 
measurements. 

Pit to pit: 22”
Top of collar to bottom hem: 24”
Pit to cuff: 20-1/4”
*Rivendell pocket tee: $25*
I picked this up at the Philly Bike Expo in 2021. Size large, ash gray, no 
issues. Printed on Will's fave: Gildan. Would trade for a Medium of the 
same OR another groovy Rivendell tee shirt in medium or maybe large. 

*LL Bean Trekking Sweater: $40*
I know it's summer but that hasn't stopped me from culling winter stuffs. 
This sweater is from the 1980s and made in England from new British wool. I 
am convinced it's from the same mill that makes the Wooly Warm sweaters for 
Rivendell. The knit and color are identical. The cuff and ribbing details 
are also the same. This sweater is a bit heavier than the Wooly Warm 
garments. Nice henley collar. A great sweater, I have two of them. At one 
point Grant asked me to send detailed pics and measurements for him to send 
to their sweater makers because he liked the design but... nothing ever 
came of it. 

Pit to pit: 23”
Pit to cuff: 18.5” (with cuff folded in half)
Top of collar to bottom hem: 26”

*Shimano Arabesque 600 rear derailer, short cage: Free*
This is missing the hanger bolt and the bolt that attaches the upper jockey 
wheel. Yours for shipping. Very groovy design. This is pretty greasy and 
dirty, but please keep the price in mind! 

*Suntour VG-T rear derailer: Free*
Missing lower jockey wheel, yours for shipping. 

*Shimano XT front derailer, FDM771: $5*
Braze-on type. Brand new in the box. 

*Bridgestone 1985 MB-2 Bullmoose bars: Free*
These are original equipment from the MB-2, factory painted in shadow blue. 
With integrated front cable hanger. Pics on request. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Replacement fork for 58cm Hillborne

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, I'm okay! Thanks Brendon. 

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:21:21 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Weird wreck? Are you okay? What happened?
>
> I do not have a fork, sorry.
>
>
>

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