Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell riders use for tire pumps on the road?

[Matthew J]

However, I've had good results with the "Quicker" mini pump. It will pump 
up a high pressure tire, and with a lower-pressure, high volume tire it 
works even better. Fits easily into a seat bag to keep the frame free of 
unnecessary clutter. 

Consistent with my experience.  A very good pump.

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[RBW] Whoh-a-tross

[Matthew J]

Looks phenomenal Chris.  I flare my levers out a bit as well.

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for tire pumps on the road?

[Matthew J]

I use the Quicker Xtreme by Quickex.   
http://www.quickex.com/203-143-x-treme.htm 

Velo-Orange used to sell them.  Did not spot it on their site just now.

These pumps are powerful, light, pack small and easy to use.  In fact, I 
will sometimes use them at home when I am too lazy to go get the floor pump 
from the storage area.

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[RBW] Re: Best/Worst

[Matthew J]

Rain hats look dorky, but obstruct over the shoulder and side vision less 
than a hood.  Even with the German mirror I would prefer the rain hat over 
a hood.

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

[Matthew J]

Definitely.  All you need to do on Amtrak is remove the pedals and turn the 
bar.  Could not be easier.  Far more pleasant than driving. 

On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 12:18:30 AM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:
>
> Amtrak is a great way to travel to Minneapolis from Chicago with a bike.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

[Matthew J]

Cambium development to report.

Brooks sent me an e-mail suggesting I apply to test a prototype cut out 
version of the Cambium.  I am happy with the regular Cambium nor have I 
ever used any sort of cut out saddle.  As such, I don't think I would be a 
very good test subject.

It is good to see Brooks continuing to build the product line though. 
 Suggests the saddle will be around for a long time.

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:26:03 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:
>
> The Cambium will be my next saddle for sure. Depending on how it feels, it 
> could possibly replace my Professional. Generally being a B-17 guy, the Pro 
> sits on the fence. I'm sort of waiting to see one in person before finding 
> one.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mixte frame design question

[Matthew J]

> I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the "double lateral tube" style 
of step through bike than the "single diagatube" style.  :)

> SOMA Buena Vista is a nice "double lateral tube" design.  
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg 

The double tubes look nice and from the right builder can be a decent bike. 
 A lot of those double tubes are very flexible though and not in the 
planing sort of way.  Riv (and others) single tube down tends to make a 
stronger bike.

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 7:04:20 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I didn't mean to start a pedantic discussion around the term "mixte:" (but 
> thanks for the background info, Jan and co.)  Though I used it with what 
> seems to be a widely held distinction (at least in US).
>
> I meant to say that I prefer the looks of the "double lateral tube" style 
> of step through bike than the "single diagatube" style.  :)
>
> SOMA Buena Vista is a nice "double lateral tube" design.  
> http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8348/8261188891_959b6b76ea_o.jpg
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jan Heine 
> > wrote:
>
>> Interestingly, "mixte" seems to have a clear definition more in the U.S. 
>> than in France. Of the great constructeurs, I've only seen the term "mixte" 
>> used in the Goéland catalogue. Most speak of "vélo dame" or similar terms.
>>
>> Regarding the frame design, the twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was invented by 
>> A. Sixt in the 1930s, as a more triangulated design that was intended to 
>> make the frame stiffer than the traditional women's frames with a deeply 
>> dropped or even curved diagonal tube. He also used twin diagonal tubes to 
>> stiffen tandem frames.
>>
>> Around 1938, the great constructeur Reyhand developed a more 
>> sophisticated frame design, with a dropped single top tube and two extra 
>> seatstays. In profile, it looks similar to the twin-diagonal-tubed frame. 
>> To stiffen the connection at the center of the frame, the extra stays 
>> extend beyond the seat tube and attach to the diagonal tube as well. André 
>> Reiss, the maker of Reynand, patented this design, as well as a tandem 
>> frame with two sets of diagonal reinforcement stays (one set from the head 
>> tube to the rear BB, the other from the front seat lug to the rear 
>> dropouts). After Reiss died in World War II, the designs were widely copied.
>>
>> You can see examples of these designs in the Bicycle Quarterly "Image 
>> Archive" at
>>
>> http://www.bikequarterly.com/color_photo_supplement.html
>>
>> The twin-diagonal-tubed mixte was much easier to make, and thus remained 
>> popular among mass producers. I don't think Sheldon Brown was even aware of 
>> the second "Reyhand" type when he coined his definition of mixte, but he 
>> was thinking of women's frames with either a dropped top tube with no extra 
>> rear stays (which puts bending loads on the seat tube and thus offends 
>> engineers) or the twin-diagonal-tubed "mixte." More recently, Rivendell 
>> inspired its mixtes on the "Reyhand" type, but without extending the extra 
>> stays beyond the seat tube.
>>
>> Jan Heine
>> Editor
>> Bicycle Quarterly
>> www.bikequarterly.com
>>
>> Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/
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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

[Matthew J]

I have two now, one on my recreational road bike and one on my commuter.   

I set up and find the saddle feel closer to the Berthoud Aspin than the 
B17.  Angle slightly up as many do with the B17 not comfortable at all. 
 Flat as most recommend with the Berthoud it is a very comfortable saddle.  

Did some 40 to 70 mile rides in the summer and fall on the recreational 
bike.  My commute is around 7 miles.  So far it seems durable as well as 
comfortable.

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 12:39:10 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> Hey group,  just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the 
> Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. 
>   I know that its a little narrower(~10mm),  but just wanted to get an idea 
> of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

[Matthew J]

Of course you are quite right that this is of no importance when we go ride 
our bikes, but when experimental data seems to contradict our understanding 
of how something works I like to find at least a possible explanation. 
Don't you? 

I'm no engineer and my graduate degree has nothing to do with science.  But 
will hazard to say it occurs to me that rubber and air can only yield so 
hard a surface before the tire explodes.  Declining changes in figures from 
140 to 200 could reflect that what you find at 140 is about all you are 
going to get with the component at hand.

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[RBW] Re: Albatross V-brake levers

[Matthew J]

Not cheap, but sure cannot go wrong with Paul:  
http://www.paulcomp.com/brakelevers.html 

On Friday, January 3, 2014 7:54:42 AM UTC-6, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> I recently ordered Albatross bars for my early green Sam.  After trying 
> several options, staying with V-brakes. RBW does not currently offer 
> V-brake compatible levers for non-drop bars. Would appreciate 
> recommendations for best choice and where to buy. LBS is not a good option, 
> as closest is 55 miles away.
> David
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[RBW] Re: End of 2013 Sunrise Coffee & Tea club.

[Matthew J]

Definitely both.  My favorite part about commuting is hitting the lake 
front trail at dawn and watching the sun come up as I head to work.  

Combination of cold, snow and salt (so much salt on the roads!) has kept me 
on mass transit most of December.  

Here is hoping the new year brings some riding weather soon.

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:00:40 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hey Matthew,
>
> Thanks. It was a great way to start the day and end the year...hoping to 
> continue into 2014.
>
> When you mention territory do you mean sunrise rides or temperature? Both 
> is what I figure. And damn 10 degrees, I know I'm not prepared for that. 
> Happy New Year!
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 11:38:33 AM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> Great shots.  Could use some time in that territory.  10 degrees here in 
>> Chicago.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:18:01 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Whew! Almost missed getting one of these in before the year was 
>>> finished. Read about it *here* <http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/>.
>>>
>>> ~Hugh
>>>
>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
>>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> 

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[RBW] Re: End of 2013 Sunrise Coffee & Tea club.

[Matthew J]

Great shots.  Could use some time in that territory.  10 degrees here in 
Chicago.

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:18:01 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Whew! Almost missed getting one of these in before the year was finished. 
> Read about it *here* .
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
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Re: [RBW] New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

[Matthew J]

> The longer chainstays - would that have an appreciable difference on the 
ride quality?

Bikes with longer chainstays tend to have a smoother ride.  It may not be 
quite as nimble as other bikes, but I don't think people buying the Cheviot 
are hoping to use it to speed down canyon roads.

On Monday, December 30, 2013 4:04:42 PM UTC-6, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I like orange and blue, even if it reminds me of Clemson U. It also 
> reminds me of the Denver Broncos, which makes me think of Peyton Manning, 
> and that makes me happy, so I guess the colour combo makes me happy. That 
> said,  I'm pleased to discover that I didn't experience buyer's remorse 
> after seeing the bike like I thought I might. I do love the Cheviot's 
> headbadge. I long for a nicer headbadge on the Betty Foy, but most days I 
> don't even think about it. I really only think about it when I see the Hunq 
> headbadge, and now, the Cheviot.
>
> The longer chainstays - would that have an appreciable difference on the 
> ride quality? 
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2013 8:15:31 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:
>>
>> Will I get thrown off the list if I say I don't like the new mixte? I 
>> guess orange and blue together look odd to me. And why use the lugs with 
>> the hearts again? And fill in with blue? When I first heard the Betty was 
>> being replaced, I worried that I'd love the new bike and regret the Betty, 
>> but I think the Betty the lovelier bike, and also more fitted to the girly 
>> city bike crowd (of which I'm a happy member). The Betty delighted ladies 
>> everywhere with its smart femininity. And it was the second best selling 
>> bike at Riv, if I recall. I don't want to be a spoilsport, but I'm not 
>> understanding the new bike...though the head badge is dazzling!
>>
>> I think if I was in the market for a Riv mixte, I'd have to pay for a 
>> custom paint job; the Glorious red or the lipstick-creamy pink sumehra has 
>> on hers... What do all the other girls around here say???
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar and Jones bars set up question(s)

[Matthew J]

If it were me, I would drop Eric Estlund at Winter Bicycles a line and get 
a custom.  I have two Winter stems now, will have three sometime next year. 
 Could not be happier.

http://www.winterbicycles.com/gallery/stems/

On Friday, December 20, 2013 7:46:40 PM UTC-6, Christian wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> So, I'm thinking of getting a Jones bar for my Hunq. 
> http://www.jonesbikes.com/h-bar.html Currently, it's a set up with 
> Noodles--which I love--but I want something more trail oriented.  Yes, I 
> can ride trails with my Noodles.  I have Albatross bars on my LHT so I am 
> familiar with those too.  And I'm aware of Rivendell's Nitto 
> Bullmoose--cool bars, but the Jones are even wider with more hand 
> positions.  
>
> What I'm really wondering about is experience folks might have with 1" to 
> 1 1/8" conversions using either a stem adapter like this 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/threadless-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.htmlor
>  using a quill stem with an open face 31.8 clamp diameter like this: 
> http://www.origin-8.com/product-description/?prod_model_uid=7262
>
> Pro of the stem adapter is that I can then whatever stem I want; pro of a 
> quill open face is that it's cheaper and perhaps slightly (but ever so) 
> more elegant.  
>
> Are folks aware of other quill open face 31.8 stems--something NOS?  Salsa 
> made an open face quill for sometime but I'm pretty it was only in 
> 25.4--maybe 26.  
>
> Thanks for any advice.  I think I've got it covered, but thought I'd run 
> it by this always helpful bunch.
>
> Christian 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

Sorry Jim, appears as though I was sending my post when you sent yours.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:02:16 PM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> my, my my...
>
> We're really discussing a SRAM recall here? 
>
> And now it's spiraled out into this galaxy of snipes and counter-snipes?
>
> I realize that it's the winter months for many of us on the list, but can 
> we let this thread drop and die, please? 
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Jim / list admin
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

> Is it just me or is this thread getting ridiculously cranky?   Ah, yes, 
it's December...the usual winter surliness. 

Hope no one feels I am being cranky about this.

I think we can take it for granted in some bad weather scenarios disc 
brakes have advantages over rim.  We also have to take for granted that 
even the best built disc brake at this point in time is going to have to 
have extra steel at critical points of the bike that will impact ride and 
feel.  The rider has to compromise between consistent stopping regardless 
the road conditions or overall road feel.

SRAM is trying to come up with disc brakes for road bikes that obviate the 
compromise.  My operating theory anyway is the recall demonstrates SRAM's 
effort may be more difficult than they think.  Not sure if it is 
impossible.  But I do not think we are there yet.

As for me, given where I live and ride, road feel - thus rim brakes - take 
precedent.  I'm willing to suffer a couple of inconvenient rides per year 
in order to get the best possible road feel.  If I lived and rode somewhere 
those bad rides were 20 times a year or more, I might well have a different 
mindset.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:34:43 PM UTC-6, Addison wrote:
>
> Is it just me or is this thread getting ridiculously cranky?   Ah, yes, 
> it's December...the usual winter surliness.
>
> Smile and go for a ride if you can!  That's what I'm about to do...
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and 
> Technology
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Educator: Professional Portfolio 
>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
>
> Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian 
> Advisory Committee
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Steve Palincsar 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> On 12/18/2013 03:16 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> My friend Bobby said earlier (and I quote):  "if I were embarking on a 
>>> multi-day tour away from civilization, I'd have a lightweight, compact kit 
>>> with me that would get me through any potential jam with my brakes"
>>>
>>> Would you like him to describe the contents of this kit?  I'll wager 
>>> that DOT brake fluid is one of the items.  Correspondingly, I bet you and 
>>> Jan would carry a brake cable in your kit, since brake cables also do not 
>>> grow on trees (so to speak).
>>>
>>
>> Tell you what else, shift cables do not grow on trees either.  And when 
>> you have front and rear panniers on your bike and you're riding in rural 
>> West Virginia when your shift cable breaks, you will quickly discover, as I 
>> did, that in a town without a bike shop there isn't anything you can find 
>> in a hardware store that will work as a substitute.  And believe you me, 
>> picture hanging wire just won't do:  I know.  I tried.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

> Soft seals can lose flexibility at low temperature, something you would 
expect a company in Chicago to know 

Good point.  Of course I think SRAM's Chicago presence is limited to a few 
execs, marketers and contract managers!

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[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

> How you you manage mud, muck, snow, and ice on your rim brakes, Matthew?

There are really only a few days out of the year where mud, muck and snow 
are significant enough to cause issues in Chicago.  

On those days when the streets are packed, I admittedly do have to stop and 
wipe off the rims and tires every now and then during the ride.  But this 
really is not much of an effort, nor, in my mind anyway, is it all that 
much of an inconvenience compared to auto commuters who plan around a 
longer commute on bad weather days.

The real problem winder cycling in Chicago is the salt getting into 
everything.  And I imagine that is as much a headache with discs as it is 
with rim brakes.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 12:11:05 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> How you you manage mud, muck, snow, and ice on your rim brakes, Matthew?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:59:32 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> > Look, we all know rim brakes (under the right conditions) are a 
>> time-tested, simple and reliable technology, BUT can be subject to all 
>> kinds of rim variables and conditions that can affect their reliabilty... 
>> (e.g. 
>> > muck, wet, snow & ice that collects on the rims, misaligned pads, poor 
>> lever/cable setup, trueness of rim, etc.). 
>>
>> But that BUT is a big but ;)  Provided you have otherwise set up and 
>> maintain your rim brake equipped bike well, the problems you site are 
>> wholly manageable.  
>>
>> It will be interesting to see if SRAM is able to resolve its issues.  As 
>> I understand the SRAM dilemma is a result of trying to work a hydraulic 
>> disc system for road riding that does not require the beefier forks and 
>> chain stays which are fine on MTBs but take away from some of the pleasures 
>> of road riding.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:28:25 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>
>>> Disclaimer:  I admit I'm a slightly over-zealous, biased proponent of 
>>> hydraulic disc brakes, so please take this as nothing more than absolute 
>>> truth :).  I'm sure SRAM will solve whatever problem is plaguing these 
>>> particular disc brakes, but I have to say in the last 10 years of riding in 
>>> sub-freezing weather on hydraulic discs without a single failure, I have 
>>> only experienced superior performance and reliability with hydraulic discs 
>>> under severe conditions.
>>>
>>> Look, we all know rim brakes (under the right conditions) are a 
>>> time-tested, simple and reliable technology, BUT can be subject to all 
>>> kinds of rim variables and conditions that can affect their reliabilty... 
>>> (e.g. muck, wet, snow & ice that collects on the rims, misaligned pads, 
>>> poor lever/cable setup, trueness of rim, etc.).
>>>
>>> Disc brakes are generally not impacted by these same rim conditions 
>>> (other than poor setup/adjustment... which still leads to lousy braking 
>>> regardless).
>>>
>>> Cable-actuated disc brakes are less-impacted by mud, muck and ice, but 
>>> still have moving, semi-exposed cables, calipers and springs that can 
>>> really stiffen up in cold weather.
>>> Hydraulic disc brakes are less-impacted by mud, much and ice, and are 
>>> mostly sealed to the elements.  Besides the plunger at the lever and the 
>>> pistons, fluid (in a sealed environment) is the only thing moving.  Just 
>>> like automobile brakes and heavy equipment hydraulics, hydraulic brakes on 
>>> bikes are designed to function reliably in extreme conditions.
>>>
>>> And anyone who claims hydraulic brake lines can't easily be fixed out in 
>>> the wilds just hasn't done it, that's all. It's not rocket science.  In 
>>> fact if I were embarking on a multi-day tour away from civilization, I'd 
>>> have a lightweight, compact kit with me that would get me through any 
>>> potential jam with my brakes... but then again there's also a very high 
>>> probability I'd never need to use it. 
>>>
>>> Like em or not, it takes a much stronger case to bash hydraulic disc 
>>> brakes.Hydraulic rim brakes?  Sorry, can't argue that one...  End of 
>>> rant.
>>>
>>> BB
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:56:56 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged 
>>>> steel maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York:
>>>>
>>>> Do

[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

> Look, we all know rim brakes (under the right conditions) are a 
time-tested, simple and reliable technology, BUT can be subject to all 
kinds of rim variables and conditions that can affect their reliabilty... 
(e.g. 
> muck, wet, snow & ice that collects on the rims, misaligned pads, poor 
lever/cable setup, trueness of rim, etc.). 

But that BUT is a big but ;)  Provided you have otherwise set up and 
maintain your rim brake equipped bike well, the problems you site are 
wholly manageable.  

It will be interesting to see if SRAM is able to resolve its issues.  As I 
understand the SRAM dilemma is a result of trying to work a hydraulic disc 
system for road riding that does not require the beefier forks and chain 
stays which are fine on MTBs but take away from some of the pleasures of 
road riding.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:28:25 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Disclaimer:  I admit I'm a slightly over-zealous, biased proponent of 
> hydraulic disc brakes, so please take this as nothing more than absolute 
> truth :).  I'm sure SRAM will solve whatever problem is plaguing these 
> particular disc brakes, but I have to say in the last 10 years of riding in 
> sub-freezing weather on hydraulic discs without a single failure, I have 
> only experienced superior performance and reliability with hydraulic discs 
> under severe conditions.
>
> Look, we all know rim brakes (under the right conditions) are a 
> time-tested, simple and reliable technology, BUT can be subject to all 
> kinds of rim variables and conditions that can affect their reliabilty... 
> (e.g. muck, wet, snow & ice that collects on the rims, misaligned pads, 
> poor lever/cable setup, trueness of rim, etc.).
>
> Disc brakes are generally not impacted by these same rim conditions (other 
> than poor setup/adjustment... which still leads to lousy braking 
> regardless).
>
> Cable-actuated disc brakes are less-impacted by mud, muck and ice, but 
> still have moving, semi-exposed cables, calipers and springs that can 
> really stiffen up in cold weather.
> Hydraulic disc brakes are less-impacted by mud, much and ice, and are 
> mostly sealed to the elements.  Besides the plunger at the lever and the 
> pistons, fluid (in a sealed environment) is the only thing moving.  Just 
> like automobile brakes and heavy equipment hydraulics, hydraulic brakes on 
> bikes are designed to function reliably in extreme conditions.
>
> And anyone who claims hydraulic brake lines can't easily be fixed out in 
> the wilds just hasn't done it, that's all. It's not rocket science.  In 
> fact if I were embarking on a multi-day tour away from civilization, I'd 
> have a lightweight, compact kit with me that would get me through any 
> potential jam with my brakes... but then again there's also a very high 
> probability I'd never need to use it. 
>
> Like em or not, it takes a much stronger case to bash hydraulic disc 
> brakes.Hydraulic rim brakes?  Sorry, can't argue that one...  End of 
> rant.
>
> BB
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:56:56 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:
>>
>> I'm weaving flowers into my beard right now and looking for a lugged 
>> steel maypole. Care to join me? From SRAM and the Bike Snob New York:
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> *It has recently come to our attention that during last weekend’s 
>> Cyclocross racing in the US, in sub freezing temperatures, several failures 
>> were reported. In these conditions the master cylinder seals failed to hold 
>> pressure resulting in abrupt loss of brake power, and an inability to stop 
>> the bike. These failures are related to product that is outside the 
>> originally stated date code range and unrelated to the original failure 
>> mode. No injuries have been reported to date.*
>>
>> *As a result of this new finding, SRAM requests that anyone who has a 
>> bike equipped with SRAM Hydraulic Disc or Hydraulic Rim Brakes stop using 
>> the bike immediately. All products shipped to date, and currently in the 
>> market or in inventory will be recalled.*
>>
>> Upon reading this, retrogrouches around the world wove flowers into their 
>> beards and danced arm-in-arm around the lugged steel maypole, reveling in 
>> the irony that the very conditions in which hydrolic dick breaks are 
>> supposed to excel were instead their undoing.  Meanwhile, the experts at 
>> SRAM have been working around the clock to find a new way to convince 
>> people that you need hydraulic braking for slow bicycle races that last 
>> only 45 minutes to an hour in which you have access to a spare bicycle 
>> roughly every five minutes.
>>
>> As for the hydraulic rim brakes, all SRAM has to say about that is that 
>> if you actually bought those then the joke's on you. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Dancing Around the Lugged Steel Maypole

[Matthew J]

> What about female retrogrouches? Do we just let our leg hair grow out? 
:-D 

Well sure1  Why not ;)

Of course I do not ride at speeds some other cyclists do, but my two bikes, 
one with braze-on center pulls the other with dual pivot side pulls both 
stop so well I just do not understand the push to add the complexity 
inherent with hydraulic brakes.  I could see pushing to make rim brakes and 
cables lighter or prettier or what not.  Just don't understand the all out 
push to eliminate altogether. 

>
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[RBW] Re: New RBW Silver brand chainrings available!

[Matthew J]

> $1/tooth is brilliant.

Yes indeed.  And if these are even half good, a pretty decent price.  

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 4:23:52 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> $1/tooth is brilliant. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:56:10 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>
>> Reading between the lines it sounds like "let's have some fun with the 
>> tooth counts".  Like it says, what's a tooth here or there?  With wide 
>> range cassettes, you're always bound to find a gear somewhere that works.  
>> Pricing is in line with plain flat rings and they're made from 7075 alloy 
>> so should have long service life.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:49:24 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 16, 2013 10:32:45 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote: 

  Very cool.
  Wouldn't it be cool if they had a whole line of "Silver" branded 
 components?
 Could deck out the whole frameset with complete Silver build.

 Wonder if they will only sell these rings from now on at RBW?
 Glad to know there is a place where I can buy rings for my favoritest 
 Sugino XD2 triple crankset whenever I will need them!

 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chr2.htm

  
>>> What's interesting is the weird tooth counts being offered - 45, 43, 
>>> 35?!  They're made in the USA, they're probably made by Vuelta using the 
>>> Silver (or S!lver brand name).  For the  110bcd, if they wanted to be 
>>> different, Riv should have had one made in 33t like TA!  Good Luck! 
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

[Matthew J]

I have an Eisentraut, too, though from the '70s. From what I know of his 
history, he built race frames almost exclusively. He was probably the best 
American frame builder of the day, but I don't see him as compararble to 
Riv. 

That's the rub, I'ld say.  Until 1970, when as Steve points out above 
Schwinn first started selling lugged Japanese made frames, a person looking 
to buy a practical bike that could handle commuting, touring, light camping 
and fun rides was probably going to wind up with a Schwinn Varsity, 
Continental, or maybe even the Collegiate.  

Paramounts and the few custom builders out there were mainly for racers. 
 Really a reflection of the market at the time.  Cycle commuting and 
touring were very rare.  Sport cyclists existed, but no where near as 
mainstream as they are today.  

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:23:42 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:40:25 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>  On 12/17/2013 12:22 PM, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> But the question isn't just who are among the best American frame 
>> builders today; it's in the 1960s.  And in the 1960s, Peter Weigle had yet 
>> to move to England, along with Richard Sachs, to learn how to build 
>> frames.  As was mentioned, Albert Eisentraut does date to that period, 
>> having begun in 1959.  
>>
>>
> Yes, Steve, I agree with you. I'm just pointing out the difference between 
> the questions asked, using an example from today.
>
> I have an Eisentraut, too, though from the '70s. From what I know of his 
> history, he built race frames almost exclusively. He was probably the best 
> American frame builder of the day, but I don't see him as compararble to 
> Riv.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

[Matthew J]

> In 1964 I bought a Dunelt in a bike shop in Buffalo NY. 

Good point.  Some bike shops did sell European and even Japanese offerings. 
 (FWIW, I have a couple of Dunelt head badges in my collection.

>(and Tom is legendary for his fitting skills)  

The best.  Every time I get on my Kellogg I marvel at how perfect it is.

> By 1971 there was the P15, a (light) touring bike equipped with a 
Campagnolo triple crank.  I ordered mine in July, 1971.

Reckon that was quite a bike.

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Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

[Matthew J]

Thanks Ron.  IMO those Japanese Schwinns were as close as one would find to 
the Riv model in the U.S. at the time. The owner did a great job on the 
restoration too.

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:46:19 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Matthew, there was a very trick '73 (Japanese) World Voyager posted on the 
> CABE yesterday  
> http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?51177-1973-Schwinn-World-Voyageur
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:25:50 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> As I understand the history, Waterford is a direct successor from the 
>> factory originally started by Wastyn and Schwinn to build Paramounts.
>>
>> The U.S. did not really have a Rivendell-like company in the 1960s. 
>>  Schwinn was still dominant at the time.  The Chicago facility made Schwinn 
>> branded bikes and many of the smaller name and department store bikes of 
>> that era.
>>
>> There were a few individual builders making lugged frames, but no one 
>> selling comparable numbers to Riv.  Maybe the closest were the quality 
>> lugged frames Schwinn brought over from Japan.  Without googling, I do not 
>> recall off hand whether the Japanese Schwinns were available in the 1960s 
>> or 1970s.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:51:20 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree Paramounts are gorgeous handmade frames, and is likely the 
>>> pinnacle of American handmade bicycles during the time - and maybe the only 
>>> example we'll come up with..  Does it count the same as the branded 
>>> Waterford frames?  
>>> But if you look at the flagships, Varsity vs. Grand Prix - there are two 
>>> different manufacturing approaches from opposite sides of the pond to 
>>> produce a bicycle in the 70s.  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:30:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Schwinn was making beautiful, lugged Paramounts back in those days. 
>>>> Those bikes are very collectable and are still ridden today.
>>>>
>>>> Eric N
>>>> www.CampyOnly.com
>>>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>>>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel, frames back then and what were 
>>>> the prices like?
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Who was RBW back in the 1960's?

[Matthew J]

As I understand the history, Waterford is a direct successor from the 
factory originally started by Wastyn and Schwinn to build Paramounts.

The U.S. did not really have a Rivendell-like company in the 1960s. 
 Schwinn was still dominant at the time.  The Chicago facility made Schwinn 
branded bikes and many of the smaller name and department store bikes of 
that era.

There were a few individual builders making lugged frames, but no one 
selling comparable numbers to Riv.  Maybe the closest were the quality 
lugged frames Schwinn brought over from Japan.  Without googling, I do not 
recall off hand whether the Japanese Schwinns were available in the 1960s 
or 1970s.  

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:51:20 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I agree Paramounts are gorgeous handmade frames, and is likely the 
> pinnacle of American handmade bicycles during the time - and maybe the only 
> example we'll come up with..  Does it count the same as the branded 
> Waterford frames?  
> But if you look at the flagships, Varsity vs. Grand Prix - there are two 
> different manufacturing approaches from opposite sides of the pond to 
> produce a bicycle in the 70s.  
>
> On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:30:50 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Schwinn was making beautiful, lugged Paramounts back in those days. Those 
>> bikes are very collectable and are still ridden today.
>>
>> Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Michael  wrote:
>>
>> Who made the USA's finest lugged, steel, frames back then and what were 
>> the prices like?
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Re: [RBW] Wool socks

[Matthew J]

Bought some Dahlgren Alpaca Hiking Socks.  As warm if not warmer than wool 
of like thickness (and more weight - Alpaca is lighter than wool) and more 
plush.  Not all that expensive either.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:05:04 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> +3 on the darn toughs,  theyre comfy and sturdy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Lyle Bogart > 
> wrote:
>
> +1 on the Darn Toughs. Wonderful socks...
>
> On Thursday, 12 December 2013, Nancy Seibel wrote:
>
>> Darn Tough socks, made in Vermont. They are great and come with a 
>> lifetime guarantee.
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[RBW] Re: Two Beautiful Months of Morning Coffee, Outside

[Matthew J]

Very well done.  Food and drink pics usually leave me hanging.  This set 
really says things about you and your friends, your location, and what you 
are into.  Thanks for the link.

On Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:46:58 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> I've been really quiet about all the sunrise coffee rides because they're 
> pretty local and small, but I just realized I only started doing them for 
> two months, so I thought I'd share a photoset from all of them:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157638618679355/
>
> Cheers, be warm, Just Ride,
>
> cc
>
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[RBW] Re: Racing Sucks

[Matthew J]

'Ceptin the 100 meter dash, racing of any sort bores me to tears.  But I 
have no desire to annoy those who do like it.  Long as they don't try and 
convince me to join them, we're fine.

On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:24:57 AM UTC-6, pb wrote:
>
> Nah, it's pretty much a fail.  The hoped-for side-effect did not occur.
>
> :-)
>
> ~pb
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Re: [RBW] Speaking of yet another ebay anomaly..

[Matthew J]

Every now and then I will message these type of sellers saying I really 
like their item but wonder if they will ever sell one for people without a 
Rivendell ;).  So far none the sellers have shared my question / their 
response with the general readers.

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 6:33:51 PM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> "Purchased from Rivendell" would be acceptable in that instance :-) 
>
> On 12/7/13, sameness > wrote: 
> > 
> >> 
> >> (H)aving a random piece of plastic bike clothing with an old-timey 
> >> bike advertisement on it doesn't quite cut it! :-) 
> > 
> > 
> > Or a postcard. 
> > 
> > http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/m82.htm 
> > 
> > Jeff Hagedorn 
> > Warragul, VIC Australia 
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Re: [RBW] Cycling in Paris during the German Occupation

[Matthew J]

I know the war years were hard on the French people, but looking at those 
pictures of the streets of Paris not clogged with autos is really something.

On Saturday, December 7, 2013 11:41:01 AM UTC-6, Jan Heine wrote:
>
> I hadn't really thought about bicycles as a tool for resistance in today's 
> society. That may explain why some drivers are so enraged by cyclists on 
> the road!
>
> Jan Heine
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> On Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:25:59 AM UTC-8, Addison wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for sharing this!  I've been fascinated by WWII, the 
>> resistance, and the holocaust, for years.  Studied the history and the 
>> literature pretty extensively.  I recently wrote a piece about bicycles as 
>> a symbol/tool of resistance.  It was inspired by a history professor and a 
>> discussion we had.
>>
>>
>> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-bicycleresistance-is-futile.html
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>>
>> Academy of Arts, Careers and 
>> Technology
>>  
>>
>> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>>
>> Educator: Professional Portfolio 
>>
>> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
>>
>> Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian 
>> Advisory 
>> Committee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Jan Heine  wrote:
>>
>>> It always amazes me how much resilience people show when faced with 
>>> difficult conditions. During my research on the René Herse story, I was 
>>> surprised to learn that cycling and even the building of high-end bicycles 
>>> continued during the German occupation of France during the war. Recently, 
>>> I came across a bunch of photos online that illustrate many aspects of 
>>> cycling (and life) during that time – see my blog post at
>>>
>>> http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/12/06/cycling-under-the-
>>> german-occupation/
>>>
>>> It was a terrible time, but I find the resilience of the people, and 
>>> especially the cyclists, and the risks they took to help one another, very 
>>> inspiring.
>>>
>>> Jan Heine
>>> Editor
>>> Bicycle Quarterly
>>> www.bikequarterly.com
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[RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

[Matthew J]

Apples to grapefruits obviously, but I have had surprisingly good luck with 
the GB EL 700C 30s.  4 months on my road bike so far and no flats riding 
all over the Chicago area.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:26:39 PM UTC-6, Tom Virgil wrote:
>
> Hi Marc,
>
> What tire pressure are you using to get the "speed and cushy feel"?  
> Actually that might depend of 'the weight of bike and rider, so maybe I 
> should not ask it in that manner.  I understand from Bicycle Quarterly that 
> achieving a 15% drop when mounted is ideal.  Never figured out how to 
> measure that, though.  Kinda hard to measure the height of your bike when 
> you are in a full stationary track stand.
>
> I looked at Grand Bois Extra Leger 42mm 650b, but those are even lighter 
> than the standard Hetres.  I would fear undue sidewall damage.  I might try 
> the Soma.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:37:14 PM UTC-8, Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>> I've been riding on them for a few years now.  I really like them.  They 
>> are lighter and faster than most Schwalbe choices, I don't have any 
>> experience with the Hetres.  They are a Pasela TG with beefed up sidewalls 
>> to prevent snakebites.  I have have been through two sets of them and had 
>> one flat after the tread was really worn on the first rear tire.  I like 
>> the look, the speed and the cushy feel they have.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2013 1:43:51 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>>
>>> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for 
>>> those who know about this 650b stuff?
>>> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>>>
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>>>
>>> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
>>> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Just Got Our English Riding Jackets

[Matthew J]

Huge congratulations on getting married!  English jackets and a trip down 
under.  Living the life.

No reason at all to regret getting one each.  I'll bet you two look pretty 
cool riding together in them.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 5:37:30 PM UTC-6, Liesl wrote:
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> Sorry to have been out of the loop for a while.  Dang life!  Anyway, I 
> just got legally married (oh my goodness; never thought I'd see the day) 
> and my partner and I gave each other what we now refer to as "The Nuptial 
> English Riding Jackets" to each other as wedding gifts.  It was going to be 
> watches, but then we saw the Swedish Riv Snaps and it was all over; 
> decision made in a snap (sorry; couldn't resist).  Anyway, they came at the 
> beginning of the week and then it dumped snow and got real cold.
>
> Here's my quick review:  light.  water beads up on it like crazy (have 
> been in light rain and snow).  toggles are great one-handers; maybe even 
> mitten-handers.  orange zippers are totally sporty.  collar configuration 
> is nice; room for a neck gaitor/small scarf but not too big as to let in 
> wind and rain.  A medium fits erin, who is 5'10", and me, who is 5'2" but a 
> bit thicker about the middle.  It's more flattering on Erin but fine on me; 
> not too crazy big although a small might've been better but wasn't an 
> option.  We both can fit a down sweater under it.  It was *perfect* for 
> shoveling wet snow.  I do not miss having a hood but then again I live in 
> hats.  We feel a bit silly wearing them both at the same time.  We are a 
> titch embarrassed that we spent the money for two jackets but in no way 
> regret it.  And afterall, they *are* Nuptial Jackets. We think they will 
> be utterly fantastic on our trip to New Zealand to visit my family both on 
> and off bicycles.  I am pretty sure that it will become beloved over a long 
> long time and will be a 4-season garment, which is saying a lot for 
> Minnesota.
>
> Verdict?  Yep!  
>
> Riv Chica Warrior
>

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[RBW] Re: Good compromise between a Marathon and a Hetre? Is it the Soma Xpress 650b?

[Matthew J]

This was the final tire I used before selling my 650B.  I liked it.  Not 
quite as smooth as the Hetre but possible a bit more fast.  Mine did not 
flat in around 600 miles road riding.

On Thursday, December 5, 2013 12:43:51 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
> A good halfway compromise between these two extremes, do ya think, for 
> those who know about this 650b stuff?
> Fast-ish, light-ish, puncture protected-ish?
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t106-10118.htm
>
> Is it the same tread as a Pasela?
> Pasela doesn't come in 650b, right?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.

[Matthew J]

I've had and liked Kojaks.  The ride does not compare to Grand Bois Extra 
Legers or Challenge Paris-Roubaix. 

On Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:05:36 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Generally but not always true. Schwalbe models somehow are comfortable 
> while being sturdy; I am thinking of the Big Apple (60 mm) and the Kojak 
> (~35 mm). Perhaps they design even belted tires with supple sidewalls. 
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Matthew J 
> > wrote:
>
>> The sturdier tires get, the less comfortable they are.  Quite the 
>> dilemma, and one to which there is yet any easy solution.  
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.

[Matthew J]

Left out the 'not' between 'yet' and 'any'.

On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:49:46 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>
> The sturdier tires get, the less comfortable they are.  Quite the dilemma, 
> and one to which there is yet any easy solution.  
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:10:22 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On 11/28/2013 12:12 AM, Michael wrote: 
>> > I have Hetres on my Bleriot but haven't really done any commuting on 
>> > them. I was gonna put them on my Sam (full time bike now). 
>> > But I mentally just can't get past having only rubber and a liner 
>> > between the tube and the road. 
>>
>> What else would you expect?  Steel belts? 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wool Boreal Shirt (and other Bushcraft-inspired stuff)...

[Matthew J]

Empire has a design for a shorter Anorak which presumably will be better 
for cycling.  Was all set on getting one, but unfortunately Empire could 
not source canvas this year so will not have any to sell.

On Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:31:51 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Anne... one reviewer raved about the quality 
> of the stitching... I must have misunderstood.
>
> Patrick, there are actually two very similar versions of this; the Empire 
> version (which is an 80/20 blend) and the Lester River, which is 100% wool. 
>  I believe both are actually stitched by Empire, though.
> Ron, I agree the Filsons are beautiful, but the price approaches that of a 
> Ventile jacket.  I may go minimalist and find myself a Swedish Army Snow 
> Smock to dye and treat with Nikwax.  Gotta get back into sewing... 
>
> Thanks.
> BB 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 28, 2013 2:36:32 AM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> The Boreal Jacket looks like a quality garment: that heavy wool melton 
>> is a long-lasting, warm fabric. It's felted, so it's heavy and 
>> wind-resistant. 
>>
>> However, it is not hand-stitched. And you wouldn't want it to be: that 
>> wool cries out to be machine stitched. Gorgeous looking fabric. 
>>
>> If you want to compare two different wool melton jackets on price, 
>> make sure they both have the same weight of wool. A thinner wool will 
>> obviously be cheaper. 
>>
>> > 
>> > The Duluth Pack jacket looks nice, but add a pocket and the price (at 
>> $240) 
>> > is at parity with the Boreal.  The Boreal looks more rugged, and is 
>> > hand-stitched. 
>>
>> -- 
>> -- Anne Paulson 
>>
>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.

[Matthew J]

The sturdier tires get, the less comfortable they are.  Quite the dilemma, 
and one to which there is yet any easy solution.  

On Thursday, November 28, 2013 7:10:22 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 11/28/2013 12:12 AM, Michael wrote: 
> > I have Hetres on my Bleriot but haven't really done any commuting on 
> > them. I was gonna put them on my Sam (full time bike now). 
> > But I mentally just can't get past having only rubber and a liner 
> > between the tube and the road. 
>
> What else would you expect?  Steel belts? 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why no more Quickbeam/ SimpleOne?

[Matthew J]

Discussed EBBs with Mike DeSalvo (of DeSalvo Bikes).  He likes and uses 
them but warns the owner has to be vigilant about keeping them clean 
otherwise grime build up will shorten their useful lifespan.

Not an issue for an MTB racer who constantly maintains (or if real good has 
a crew that constantly maintains) an event bike.  But may be an issue for a 
daily commuter where constant cleaning is not practical.  

Something to keep in mind anyway.

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:28:38 AM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> If eccentric bottom brackets are good enough for Jeff Jones and Sam at 
> Singular, they'll probably work for me. And Niner. They might all use Phil 
> EBBs; not sure. Making all your adjustments at the crank end of things 
> seems to remove a bunch of variables (while introducing seat tube angle and 
> BB height minutia). Always something to obsess over. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 3:12:58 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> One more: As to eccentric BBs, I've researched and there is quite a bit 
>> of scuttlebutt about creaking, loosening -- they apparently have their own 
>> set of problems.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I *get* it! Clever! I wish I could try that with the Surly hub on the 
>>> '03, but the axle has caps with little shelves that fit into the dropouts 
>>> -- you have to slide them along the dropout to remove the wheel.
>>>
>>> In fact, maybe not so clever: My Phil flip flop also have these 
>>> "shelves" or what have you that fit into the slots -- again, no "drop down" 
>>> removal.
>>>
>>> Is there a hub like that Bill has in mind?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 Tinker

 I like the horizontal dropout to allow for correcting chain tension on 
 a single speed.  Then, with the wheel in the right position, you dial in 
 the fender.  Now that's fixed "forever".  You subsequently remove the 
 wheel 
 by removing the bolts from the hub and the wheel drops out.  


 On Monday, November 25, 2013 12:35:20 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> How would you adjust chain tension? Eccentric BB? White Industries 
> Eccentric ENO hub?
> I'd vote for the BB, to let people run any wheels they want or have. 
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
> On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:18:49 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I'm not in the market for a single speed, but if I had a single 
>> speed, it would likely have fenders.  If it had fenders, it would likely 
>> have correct or close to correct fender line.  As such it would be 
>> impossible to remove the rear wheel either rearward with track-like 
>> dropouts or forward with horizontal road type dropouts.  
>>
>> So, if it were me, I would simply run a good, MUSA rear hub that is 
>> bolted on with bolts, not nutted on with nuts.  The offering from Phil 
>> and 
>> Paul and White Industries and Chris King all have these allen bolts. 
>>  Remove the two allen bolts entirely and the wheel drops out of the drop 
>> out.  No more problem.  You can have perfect fender line, and can remove 
>> your rear wheel without deflating it.  It will add between 30 and 60 
>> seconds to the total amount of time it takes to fix your flat.   
>>
>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 10:08:08 AM UTC-8, Philip Williamson 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I find fat tires (32mm) run into the chainstay bridge on my other 
>>> fixed gear, so I prefer the track ends.
>>> I had SKS fenders with the QRs on the rear as well as the fork. To 
>>> change the wheel, I just popped the rear stays out of the quick 
>>> releases to 
>>> free up the fenders. 
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 25, 2013 8:05:42 AM UTC-8, Pudge wrote:

  One solution for the tire removal issue is to use flat wooden 
 fenders, which bend very easily outward away from the tire, allowing 
 easy 
 removal.  Of course, there are always trade-offs – such fenders aren’t 
 as 
 functional as a good plastic or metal curved fender, but in 
 non-downpours, 
 and with a mudflap, they’re not bad.

  
  

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Re: [RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 degrees F?

[Matthew J]

Freezing to around 20 or so I use some thick Alpaca gloves over a thin silk 
liner.  When it drops below 20 Pearl Izumi lobsters.  Have not yet cycled 
in weather cold enough to wear something under the Lobsters.  Those gloves 
are darn warm.

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 7:20:30 AM UTC-6, EricP wrote:
>
> Below 35 usually some Capo gloves that do a good job of blocking the wind. 
> They have some padding which is why I chose them.   Below about 25 then 
> will pull out either some lobster gloves or choppers (deerskin mitten 
> covers over ragg wool mittens).  Had the latter on a ride yesterday when 
> the temps were about 15 or so.  If I'm silly enough to be out when it's 
> below zero, then probably be a set of pogie mittens from Empire Canvas. 
>  Definite overkill.  Also really tough to use on a drop bar bike.  
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 7:12 AM, > wrote:
>
>> Rivendell carried these about ten years ago, bought a pair then and still 
>> in use now.
>> They are pretty worn as they are my go to glove for cold riding temps.
>> Sometimes I will pull the half mits over them.
>>
>>
>> http://www.foxsox.com/catalog/product.aspx?type=subcategory&sortorder=stylenumber&code=GLOVE&selectedstyle=9360
>>
>> Dave Nawrocki
>> Fort Collins, CO
>>
>>
>>
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>> *Sent: *Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:58:41 PM
>> *Subject: *[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for gloves below 35 
>> degrees F?
>>
>>
>> Looking for gloves and thought I would see what you all use.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Did Cavemen Eat Yams?

[Matthew J]

Obesity and diabetes are not common in many parts of the world where people 
eat large quantities of tubers. These diseases are common in the United 
States and other countries where people eat large quantities of highly 
processed corn starch and animals kept in confined feeding lots and fed 
copious amounts of refined grain full of antibiotics and other drugs.

And of course while potatoes are native to the Americas there are similar 
edible roots that quite clearly were part of human diets in Africa, Europe 
and Asia going back to prehistorical times.  Also, potato products were 
eaten by Native Americans who by all accounts were thin and quite healthy 
before the Europeans brought them smallpox, etc.  Heck, keep in mind 
pre-Europer Native Americans had active trade and interaction across a 
rugged continent that did not have horses or other beasts of burden that 
could be ridden or pull heavy loads.

Looking at the data and history, I personally think it best to avoid 
processed foods but will gladly eat an organic sweet potato with no butter 
or margarine 

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[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

[Matthew J]

Good points D Patrick.  Hoods do make a lot of sense backpacking. 
 Depending on where you are cycling though best to leave them off.  Glad to 
read you are a Tilley fan as well.  Great hats.

On Friday, November 22, 2013 12:38:04 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> It all depends on what style of riding you do. For bikepacking, a rain 
> hood rocks. There's rarely a need to check for trees overtaking me, or to 
> look back to ensure I merge well between rocks. Once at camp, a hood beats 
> a hat vs. rain and wind very time. And for those times when I'm on the road 
> and do need look back ability, there is a hand to the hood technique or 
> wear my Tilley sun hat maneuver.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, November 22, 2013 11:06:19 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> > Hood, waist drawstring, pockets galore, plenty of room for under 
>> layers, and a certain all-round style, ... all these things gotta be just 
>> right 
>>
>> As I understand the description, the Riv jacket does not have a hood. 
>>  This actually makes sense given this is a Rivendell design.  Hoods block 
>> laterally view and make over the shoulder vision checks difficult. 
>>  Cyclists should consider a good rain hat over a hood.  Riv used to sell 
>> one but no longer does.  Tilley makes some nice rain hats.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

[Matthew J]

> Hood, waist drawstring, pockets galore, plenty of room for under layers, 
and a certain all-round style, ... all these things gotta be just right 

As I understand the description, the Riv jacket does not have a hood.  This 
actually makes sense given this is a Rivendell design.  Hoods block 
laterally view and make over the shoulder vision checks difficult. 
 Cyclists should consider a good rain hat over a hood.  Riv used to sell 
one but no longer does.  Tilley makes some nice rain hats.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

[Matthew J]

> If we're still talking about that Riv Italian-Ventile rain jacket, trust 
> me: a Goodwill tweed blazer will not perform the same, not even close.   
> I have a Ventile rain jacket, UK-made, now 9 years old.  Contrary to 
> Riv's wishy washy disclaimers, it's waterproof. Really waterproof.  It 
> also doesn't look even the least bit like a waterproof jacket.  You can 
> wear it anywhere; it's my most useful light jacket. 

Precisely.  It's fine if one does not want to buy the jacket, but monsense 
to compare it to other garments that have none of the capability. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who pre ordered an English Jacket?

[Matthew J]

> Bicycle hipster gear.  

Yours is a fairly unique definition of hipster if you think anyone who 
actually thinks themselves one would wear this jacket.
>
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[RBW] Re: I like the MUSA Anorak

[Matthew J]

I was all set to get the new cycling / hiking anorak from Empire Canvas 
this year.  Turns out they were unable to secure a supply of fabric so will 
not be making any.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:03:04 PM UTC-6, sameness wrote:
>
> Please report back, hopefully (for my sake) with some words on how the 
> seams and stitching are finished? 
>
> Maybe the pics on the Riv site were of samples or prototypes, but the one 
> in (Jenny's?) hand and the one next to the Coke show lots of frays and 
> thread ends.
>
> From a potential durability standpoint, that's the only thing keeping me 
> from pulling the trigger.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Warragul, VIC Australia 
>

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[RBW] Re: Hetres vs. Pari-Moto, your thoughts?

[Matthew J]

I had both when I had 650B.

Hetres roll well and easy, last long, and are surprisingly flat resistance.

Pari Motos roll well, don't last long, and were flat prone on Midwest roads 
and trails where I otherwise have experienced few flats.

I hardly think Compass is deriding Pari Motos when it calls them event 
tires.  Rather it is accurately stating their intended purpose.  Mike Kone 
at the Rene Herse / Boulder site sells both Hetres and Pari Motos and 
likewise cautions Pari Motos are not meant for everyday use.  Nothing wrong 
with that in my opinion.

On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:37:49 AM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Any thoughts?  I ended up with Pari Motos pretty much because I wanted 
> some other parts from Rivendell and they have free shipping on orders over 
> $150.  Rivendell carries the Pari Motos but not the Hetres.  So that 
> settled it.
>
> Plus I hate to say it but the Hetres seem heavy to me for what they are 
> supposed to be...a light yet fat supple tire with low rolling resistance.  
>
> Meanwhile the Compass site derides the Pari Motos as "event tires".  Well 
> I do plan on using them for brevets so I guess that counts :)
>
> Anyone tried them both?  Opinions on one versus the other?  
>
> Or just unsubstantiated opinions?  Like those too :)
>

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[RBW] Re: The evolution of "sizing and fit"

[Matthew J]

Glad you posted this. 

Sizing in active wear is plain bizarre lately.  

At just under 6 foot tall and weighing in at around 160 lbs I am slightly 
above average height and somewhat below average weight.  I wear a 40R 
sports coat, a 15.5 neck, 32-33 sleeve.  My dress pants are 33 waist and 33 
cuff.  All of which, in my mind anyway, suggests I am about a medium.

Apparently many of the brands out there think differently.  If I buy a 
Filson shirt even in the new Seattle size I am a small.  Outlier thinks I 
am a large.  Patagonia thinks I am a large.  Ibex medium fit, but the 
sleeves are too long.  I recently bought a great rain coat from Search and 
State.  Medium did not fit.  Large did not fit.  I had to buy an extra 
large.  I know a lot of cyclists who are over 6 feet and weigh in close to 
or above 200 lbs.  They would not be able to wear any size from S&S.  

Frustrating to say the least. 

On Monday, November 18, 2013 3:44:11 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:
>
> A couple weeks back my trusty Patagonia Snap-T Synchilla that's been with 
> me since college mysteriously "disappeared" at a coffee shop. Needless to 
> say, I was mad to lose such a long owned and well used piece of clothing.
>
> Today, I go to check out what colors they come in now so I can make that 
> my one wish for the coming holiday season. Thankfully I find they still 
> make the Snap-T...BUT WTH happened to the cut and sizing?! When I pulled a 
> medium (same size I had) off the rack, I could not believe how HUGE it was! 
> I honestly assumed it was mislabeled. Then I looked at the small...it was a 
> bit smaller, but I realized it was the fit that had changed. It's like it 
> lost all shape and became a trash bag with holes in it. I realize baggy fit 
> was in for a while, but never really associated that with outdoor apparel. 
> So it seems I'll have to find an old one if I want the same thing. Ugh.
>
> This got me thinking about cycling specific clothing and how (or if) it's 
> changed. For the most part the lycra set has remained unchanged...tight and 
> stretchy is tight and stretchy. But my interest was with styles closer to 
> and specifically Rivendell type items. I noticed a couple of the new 
> clothing items have specifically undergone a "slimming" recently and 
> mentioned as requested. Not that I saw any of their clothes as baggy per 
> say, but more relaxed. I'm fairly normal 5'8" @ 145lbs so I tend to skirt 
> the small/medium in the MUSA range depending on cut. SO for me a slimmer 
> cut is fine and will most likely fit as intended. But then I know some of 
> the older wool jerseys were more traditionally form fitting. My medium 
> Seersucker fits a little loose in the body, but the collar and sleeves are 
> spot on. Same with the Railroad shirt. Interestingly I have a couple pair 
> of old MUSA shorts in size XL! that work fine on my 32 waist. Weird.
>
> I've been biking since about 88 and realized that aside from the lycra, 
> all my casual cycling gear has been purchased based on the same fit. Room 
> enough to move, but never baggy. That has worked no matter what type of 
> riding I'm doing.
>
> All that brought me to thinking about bike fit and sizing too. There has 
> been lots of discussion on the RBW vs. conventional types of fitting and 
> it's probably safe that if you're here you at least in part agree with the 
> former. But then it seems RBW fitting has evolved over time too. Looking at 
> the first All Rounder it was clearly not a bars above the saddle fit. The 
> head tubes got taller, then up sloping top tubes, and newly designed bars 
> to go even higher. I wonder if it will keep going up?
>
> Do you find yourself wishing that a certain era of "fit" had frozen in 
> time or do you tend to like the evolving nature of it? Like my Patagonia 
> fleece, I'm disappointed they changed it as it seemed like a perfect design 
> to ME. But then I'm very happy that the fatter tire revolution seems to be 
> gaining steam.
>

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[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

[Matthew J]

Thought the issue with synthetics was not so much trapping sweat but 
trapping the stank of sweat even after washing?

Cashmere - better yet, Vicuna if you can afford it - are both animal fur 
more comfortable to wear than any synthetic or cotton.  Be aware buying 
cashmere though.  Huge Chinese goat farms are contributing to 
desertification.  Mongolia does a much better job with its animal husbandry.

On Friday, November 15, 2013 2:09:17 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
> "performance" is relative to the Each person ... 
>
> I am one who finds all wool itchy, even the finest of the fine merino. 
> It's animal fur ... lol .. no matter how it's marketed . 
>
> Some say synthetics "cause" one to sweat . I think this is perception. I 
> sweat just the same in anything ... it's just wool absorbs it some and 
> synthetics do not.  There are pros/cons to this. For me synthetics may feel 
> clammy for awhile, but they dry very very fast. Wools do not feel so 
> clammy, but  they take a comparatively much longer time to dry .  Apples 
> and oranges. Sweating is sweating . 
>
> I also find the "crew" cut wool shirts to be too tight around the neck. 
> This is a personal thing.  Synthetics offer a comparatively huge selection 
> of brands and cuts. My favorite being Craft Pro tops. they are a rib knit, 
> with natural stretch. Liberal length !  No lycra rubber , which is one 
> reason so many complain about smell. Lycra to me has zero place in such 
> tops, it's a Cheap" way to get stretchy and snugger fitting shirts. Craft 
> does it by nature of the fabric weave. 
>
>
> As far as cold riding  . I stopped riding in the cold. I really don't 
> enjoy it even below 50.  Gotta be honest with myself. It's just no fun for 
> and never was. Summer is divine ,and that's that. Shorts and t's   :) 
>
>
>
> s
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:26:18 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>>
>> How are synthetic base layers (polyester,etc.)? They can be had for 
>>> cheap. But I wonder if they perform as well as wool?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: OT: What would YOU do?

[Matthew J]

A few years back I sold a vintage amplifier on Craigs.  Quick sale good 
price, I was happy.

Sometime later I noticed a listing for the same model.  I took a look 
because the model is not so common.  Sure enough the ad had a picture 
showing my amp, on my rack, with my other stereo equipment and wall art in 
the background.

I flagged the ad then posted my own warning would be buyers that something 
odd was going on.

I suppose it could be the case the poster actually had such an amp but did 
not have a camera.  Sure seemed fishy though.

On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:12:32 AM UTC-6, Shawn Granton wrote:
>
> Hello friends, I figured I'd ask the great braintrust that is the Riv list 
> for a little assistance.
>
> Today I took a peek at Portland's bike section on Craigslist, as I am wont 
> to do from time to time. And I noticed this ad:
> http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4188282827.html
> *BROOKS LEATHER SADDLE MINT CONDITION WOMANS - $50 (Downtown)*
> *I have a woman's brooks leather saddle in EXCELLENT condition .. Asking 
> 50 firm. Please email thank you . Still posted ?? That means I still have 
> it . *(When I saw the listing earlier in the day, it included a phone 
> number, but it's no longer there.)
>
> Now an EXCELLENT condition Brooks for $50 seems a bit low, especially in 
> Portland. But what really grabbed me was the pic. The Brooks Flyer, the 
> Carradice Lowsaddle bag, the ugly turquoise garage door in the 
> background...why does it seem so...*familiar?*
>
> Oh yeah, because *the photo is mine.*
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/6645856603/in/set-72157628742612855
> It's a pic of my ex-gf's 1961 Raleigh Sports. (And to be noted because I'm 
> anal: the Brooks saddle in my pic is actually a "regular" Champion Flyer, 
> not the "womans" version.)
>
> Has this happened to anyone before? What would you do in my shoes? Ignore 
> it? Report it to CL (if that would do anything?) Contact the seller? Send 
> said seller a bill for using my image?
>
> I'm flummoxed.
>
> -Shawn
>

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[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?

[Matthew J]

Hands, feet and ears need a lot of attention.  180s work for my ears.  Many 
models fit easily under the helmet..  Lobster claw gloves are great when it 
gets real cold. Alpaca socks are comfortable and very warm.

If you can afford it, Schoeller fabric 
jackets: 
http://shop.searchandstate.com/collections/all/products/s1-j-riding-jacket 
and pants: (Swrve, Outlier, Mission Workshop, etc. all have good choices) 
keep you warm but let perspiration escape.  Many of the pants look better 
some of my auto driving colleagues' corporate casual attire.

On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:24:33 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>
> Just curious. 
>  
> My commute may get longer soon.
> I had been doing partial commutes of 5.6 miles from a park-n-ride, but 
> would like to work up to the full 16 mile one-way commute one day.
> A change in my family's work schedule (3 of us with two cars) may 
> necessitate this sometimes.
>  
> Any Riv-peeps' cold weather tips? Gets down into the 20's here in the 
> winter.
>

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[RBW] Re: F/A: Large rare Peter Jon White track bike on eBay almost done.

[Matthew J]

Cool.  Always wondered about Peter White's builds.  First time seeing one.

On Monday, November 11, 2013 8:26:50 AM UTC-6, Elton Pope-Lance wrote:
>
> Not mine. 
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/61cm-Peter-White-Cycles-fixed-gear-/221311596156?pt=US_Bicycles_Frames&hash=item338732f67c
>  
>
> Elton Pope-Lance 
> Natick, MA 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: King water bottle cage

[Matthew J]

The King family are great people!

I really like the cage / tool kit holders they make.  Very practical yet 
good looking.

On Friday, November 8, 2013 2:35:34 PM UTC-6, bike adventure wrote:
>
> I just wanted to commend King cage on their warranty and customer service. 
>  Last month, a friend and I went on a 36 hours bike camping trip covering 
> 200+  kilometers of rough terrain.  My King Ti cage broke during the trip, 
> some of it may have been my fault since I do not handle my gear gently. 
>  The service and communication from Ron Andrews was prompt and I received 
> my new Ti King cage free of charge.  FYI,  the material on the cage failed, 
> the metal cracked,  the workmanship (the welding) help up no problem.  John
>

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[RBW] Re: Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay

[Matthew J]

This guy is a piece of work.  

Especially frustrating (to me anyway) he has a few NOS Suntour Winner Pro 
Freewheel with good touring range - 14-32, 13-30, which he will part with 
them for a paltry *THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS!*  Sheesh. 

Almost 9k transactions though.  Even figuring a good amount are buys, there 
would appear to be quite a few suckers out there.   

On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:59:37 PM UTC-6, joe b. wrote:
>
> Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market...
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt
>  
> t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2b972b7a
>
> But it "was" $100!
>
> Best,
> joe "ships free, too!" broach
> portland, or
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.

[Matthew J]

Following up on my earlier post about the Ibex Wool Aire jackets where I 
noted some first year buyers had problems with the zipper.

The Ibex website now reports the zipper is reworked for this year's model.  

Pretty sure I will get one.  Not for riding - I am with those who prefer 
layers over one heavy coat.  But it will be nice to have a light warm 
jacket to pack on cold season camping trips and to wear for cold night star 
gazing.

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:05:10 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> -- I detest synthetics. All I've ever owned (and that's a lot from when I 
> was 14 and began backpacking in earnest and when I wised up at 35. Wow, 16 
> years of stupidity) hold scents through washings (and that's before my 
> disability and ultra sensitivity to -- and we're talking stink, not just 
> soap perfume and such). They are just plain bulky for their warmth and they 
> do not move well with me. Blech. That said, I've never tried primaloft, so 
> I'm no help to you there. I do know folks who swear by the stuff, Wiggy's 
> being one of them and his gear is for high altitude alpining. Synthetics 
> melt, wool doesn't (though it singes if held to the fire). Sparks from a 
> campfire have turned may a fleece garment of mine into pox-marked swiss 
> cheese as parts got turned back into milk-bottle-plastic. Never had that 
> problem with wool.  
>
> New synthetic insulation such as primaloft is much better than the older 
> stuff. 
>
> Ibex now offers jackets and vests with wool insulation.  Apparently very 
> good warm to weight ratio but there are complaints about the zippers. 
>  Won't be getting it at LL Bean and REI prices though.
>
> I otherwise concur with your approach.  I wear layers topped with a wind 
> breaker throughout the (not as cold as they used to be) northern Midwestern 
> winters.  
>

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[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?

[Matthew J]

Gray unless the bike is silver.  Black with silver bike.

On Saturday, November 2, 2013 1:18:32 AM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> I generally buy gray housing, but I do use black housing that comes with 
> new levers or whatever. I pretty much use what I have on hand if I have a 
> suitable length. A little mis-matched housing never hurt anyone. 
>
> --Smitty
>
>
> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>>
>> 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell?
>> 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does?
>>  
>> Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was 
>> wondering why they use that combo.
>> Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a 
>> cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason.
>>  
>> So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells.
>>  
>> My answers:
>> 1. Gray
>> 2. Brass.
>>  
>> I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray 
>> on my Sam.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Gorgeous Autumn

[Matthew J]

Lovely!

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 8:50:40 AM UTC-5, Takashi wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Trees are becoming very colorful here, so I thought I'd share it:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/10511863834/
>
> I came home from work by noon on Friday, so I had 2.5 days of weekend.
> I thought about camping, but typhoon was approaching near here on 
> Saturday. (Actually, typhoon was gone and weather got fine by Saturday 
> noon.)
> So I figured that I'd just go half-day ramble 3 times.
> I rode my Moulton on Friday, Bike Friday on Saturday (confusing), and 
> Hunqapillar on Sunday.
>
> A set of photos to prove that I had wonderful 2.5-day-weekend:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157636969829694/
>
> Takashi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.

[Matthew J]

I use Dachstein wool gloves with silk base layer gloves on the real cold 
commutes here in Chicago.  For some reason the good Dachsteins are almost 
impossible to source from the U.S.  Some European on line sales outlets 
carry them, but hit or miss.  Fortunately I have a relative who skis in 
Switzerland from time to time who picks up a few pair for me.

On Friday, October 25, 2013 8:42:54 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I decided to try something like this last year, tho' not using ragg wool 
> undergloves but regular PI or whatever gloves. Knit liners for 40F, lightly 
> padded gloves for down to 32F, then some heavy oversized leather work 
> gloves, then some thick leather mitts. It seems as if you get more warm per 
> bulk unit with wool. Minus 10F is far colder than I'll ride; only down to 
> mid teens for me.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Deacon Patrick 
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm not Ron, but the glove system I settled on years ago is a 
>> medium-thick wool glove with a upsized leather glove over it. When 
>> exerting, this works great to -10˚F or so. I add a cotton/leather over mitt 
>> when it's colder or I'm not active as needed.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:16:39 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Ron: how do those fingerless ragg wool gloves do in wind, or while 
>>> riding in temperatures below freezing? One problem I encounter almost 
>>> always is cold thumbs and middle fingers, the digits that always press 
>>> against the surface of fingered gloves -- even those worn too large. The 
>>> only really warm combo I've used (beside down-filled mittens one day 
>>> X-country skiing at -20F) were thick ragg mittens under an oversized nylon 
>>> mitten; but those were very awkward riding gloves since they hindered 
>>> braking and, certainly, shifting.
>>>
>>> I wonder how thick ragg five-fingered gloves, full finger or half, do 
>>> for cold riding.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>>
 exactly - synthetic fleece makes you sweat and loses insulation value 
 when its wet.  
 I trout fish in the winter, and if synthetic fleece gloves get wet, 
 they're useless.  Filson merino wool gloves will keep your hands warm even 
 if they're wet.  


 



 On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:25:52 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

> I gave up over 10 years ago on what were then late-model tech in 
> synthetic cold weather insulating gear (I forget the names; the two tops 
> I 
> had were thickish, dense knits that didn't stink after you sweat in them, 
> and didn't pill like some of the other non-stinking plastic knits).
>
> Despite their lack of odor, and though they felt warm enough in when 
> riding, as soon as you stopped and your body began to cool, they began to 
> feel clammy and cold. 
>
> Wool, OTOH, doesn't feel clammy and cold when you stop, and I also 
> find it comfortable in a far wider range of temperatures (as long as 
> these 
> temperatures are below 70F). I'd often come in from a 10-to-15 mile 
> morning 
> commute wearing a ls wool jersey under a vest of some sort, and wear the 
> jersey alone comfortably for a couple of hours at an inside temperature 
> that was some 30* to 40* F warmer than outside. And of course, no stink.
>
> One other quality of wool: it keeps me warmer in wind, despite its 
> porousness, than other knits; I will often wear a ls wool jersey over a 
> ss 
> one in temperatures of about 40F without discomfort despite the breeze 
> generated by riding. In fact, a thick, ragg wool Rivendell wooly warm ls 
> jersey sweater over a ls wool jersey, plus hat and gloves and leg 
> covering, 
> is fine down to freezing if it is not too windy. Dry climate, but our 
> percentages on cold, winter mornings can be over 50%.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM, ascpgh  wrote:
>
>> [Snip] I do commute with an extra insulating garment packed in my bag 
>> through winter, seems a good bit of habit for any S24O. Need something 
>> not 
>> made sticky feeling by that sub-dripping sweating from what seems like 
>> comfortable effort on the bike. I do find that being outdoors in the 
>> evening as the temps drop to be a real education in the dew point 
>> concept. 
>> Water is going to condensate at some thermal meniscus between your body 
>> heat/moisture engine core and the falling temps of your surroundings, 
>> dress 
>> accordingly.  Or as Ted Turner, at the helm of Courageous in the 
>> Americas 
>> Cup said of knots, during your inability to recall the correct one; tie 
>> enough of them. Take enough clothes.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Blah Blah Blah Clothing Blah Blah

[Matthew J]

Swrve makea good stuff.  Their Black Label (rhwir market speak for MUSA) 
especially so.  They have a good support team.  Very Rivendellesque 
attitude when you have a question.

On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:46:02 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Just ordered a pair of Swrve Mid-weight Knickers, they arrived yesterday. 
> They fit pretty well. The dark blue ones are MUSA, and they're not racer at 
> all. It's getting chillier in Portland and it's nice to have some knee 
> coverage.
>
> cc
>
> -- 
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[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.

[Matthew J]

-- I detest synthetics. All I've ever owned (and that's a lot from when I 
was 14 and began backpacking in earnest and when I wised up at 35. Wow, 16 
years of stupidity) hold scents through washings (and that's before my 
disability and ultra sensitivity to -- and we're talking stink, not just 
soap perfume and such). They are just plain bulky for their warmth and they 
do not move well with me. Blech. That said, I've never tried primaloft, so 
I'm no help to you there. I do know folks who swear by the stuff, Wiggy's 
being one of them and his gear is for high altitude alpining. Synthetics 
melt, wool doesn't (though it singes if held to the fire). Sparks from a 
campfire have turned may a fleece garment of mine into pox-marked swiss 
cheese as parts got turned back into milk-bottle-plastic. Never had that 
problem with wool.  

New synthetic insulation such as primaloft is much better than the older 
stuff. 

Ibex now offers jackets and vests with wool insulation.  Apparently very 
good warm to weight ratio but there are complaints about the zippers. 
 Won't be getting it at LL Bean and REI prices though.

I otherwise concur with your approach.  I wear layers topped with a wind 
breaker throughout the (not as cold as they used to be) northern Midwestern 
winters.  

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...

[Matthew J]

I've never warmed to the riser bars.  A dirt drop stem and Albatross bars 
would be just the thing for my liking.

On Friday, October 18, 2013 6:07:00 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Yes. Call Rivendell. Know your PBH. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, October 18, 2013 3:23:30 PM UTC-6, Minh wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm maybe i missed it, but is there any guidance on how tall you need to 
>> be to ride this size bike?
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls

[Matthew J]

No experience with bolt on center pulls.  If you ever go custom, I highly 
recommend considering braze on center pulls.  I've had bikes with braze on 
Mafac Raids and Paul Racers and currently have a bike with Paul Racer Ms. 
 All three stopped with alacrity, had wide range modulation, and were easy 
to maintain.  

Would not say braze on center pulls are better than dual pivot side pulls 
or mini-vees, both of which I've found to do an excellent job.  Braze on 
center pulls do have a very integrated appearance and serve well.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:18:04 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Small update.  I ended up with the wrong size rear funky monkey.  "Of 
> course it's 28.6mm, just like the front derailer clamp!"  Nope.  Externally 
> butted Seat Tube, means I needed 30.0mm.  Bummer.  
>
> Anyway I did get the front set up.  I didn't ride around much with only a 
> front brake, but it seems pretty good.  I love the clearance.  I am easily 
> able to QR the brake to get the wheel out.  Also, I now have a front rack. 
>  All good points.  
>
> BUT..I hate how the arms tilt inward from the pivots.  The brake pads 
> cannot hit flush on the brake track.  BOO!  This means I need a wider rim. 
>  I have 19mm wide Mavic Open Pros now, but things would be a lot more 
> "squared-up" with a 23 or 24mm rim.  The way I prefer wide tires, this 
> needed to happen anyway.  Time to consider the Velocity A23 in 700c or the 
> Pacenti SL23 in 700c.  
>
> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:55:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for the replies.  I think I'm with all of you:  "I've used all 
>> kinds and they all work fine.  None are dramatically better or worse".  At 
>> least for everything but centerpulls.  I've never done a nice centerpull 
>> setup.  I understand being forced into using cheapie centerpulls for 
>> various reasons.  What I was curiously looking for was something more 
>> specific.  For example, I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Silver 
>> Sidepulls, and I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Paul Racer centerpulls. 
>>  I'd love to hear somebody say "I took off the Silver Sidepulls and 
>> installed Paul Racers and the result was ".  Or, I've seen many Roadeos 
>> with Tektro 539s, and a few with Paul Racer M.  I wanted to see if anybody 
>> specifically swapped from dual pivot to a quality centerpull and thought it 
>> changed anything.  That's what I'm doing, and I'll certainly share what my 
>> observations are.  
>>
>> Anyway, I did it partially out of curiosity about centerpulls.  I also 
>> did it because I wanted a cleanly installed small front rack.  I hated 
>> running P-clamps with a Marks rack on this bike.  I also did it because I 
>> think it will open up the fender area.  I also did it because I was/am 
>> inspired by Sumehra's custom mixte with braze on centerpull brakes.  If I 
>> love centerpulls, then braze on centerpulls on a custom might make it onto 
>> my bucket list.  
>>
>> 1.  If braking is a wash, and I gain the use of a proper handlebar bag, 
>> and improve fender clearance, that's a big win
>> 2.  If braking performance is better, and the rack breaks under my 
>> handlebar bag, and fender clearance is worse, then I won't know what to do
>> 3.  If braking performance is worse, and the rack breaks, then I'll whine 
>> like a baby
>>
>> I'm investing a lot in making this setup really as nice as I can.  Paul 
>> Funky Monkey hangers front and rear are rock solid.  These $170 Gran Compe 
>> brakes are beefy CNC, not unlike Pauls.  The pads come with salmon inserts 
>> and accept nice koolstop replacement inserts.  Good cables and housing, 
>> nice rims.  Everything should work great.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:23:31 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:48:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention 
 cantis and vs, and haven't found centerpulls any better, or much worse, 
 than any of the others. 

>>>
>>> I'll echo Patrick's response. I've used centerpulls for specific 
>>> situations (like needing cheap longer reach for a 650b conversion, or 
>>> needing a nutted front brake) but they aren't any better at stopping than a 
>>> good single or dual pivot sidepull. I've used various Weinman, Mafac, and 
>>> DiaCompe, and they all seem about the same for stopping power.
>>>
>>> jim m
>>> wc ca 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

[Matthew J]

> I don't get the love of disk brakes on road bikes going onI just 
really don't. 

Gaining momentum. I personally am very happy with rim brakes and could not 
see going disc.  The new SRAM road disc brakes at least look more 
presentable.  

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:42:27 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote:
>
> I don't get the love of disk brakes on road bikes going onI just 
> really don't.
>  
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 8:56:52 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
>> More pics of the carbon rando bike:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVy2iKYmqK8
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: BQ on Mark's rack

[Matthew J]

Definitely, thanks for the context.

SH is a fine bike.  But even Riv promotes it as a more affordable option 
for people who may not want to spend for an AHH or Atlantis.  How well or 
not Mark's rack suits a Calfee custom has absolutely nothing to do with how 
it suits an SH.  

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:47:44 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Jan, thanks for the context.  The Marks rack would look a bit cobbled on a 
> $12,000 carbon bike.  
>
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:13:59 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 10:36:41 AM UTC-4, Jan Heine wrote:
>>>
>>> Consider that we are talking about a full-custom carbon bike that weighs 
>>> only 21 pounds with 650B tires and lights and costs $ 11,600. In that 
>>> context, Mark's rack seemed out of place. I'd rather replace the carbon 
>>> stem with an aluminum one, and spend the savings on a custom rack.
>>>
>>> A photo of the bike is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.bikequarterly.com/current_issue.html
>>>
>>> Jan Heine
>>> Editor
>>> Bicycle Quarterly
>>> http://www.bikequarterly.com
>>>
>>> Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jan; 
>>
>> Seems like, if it's a full custom bike, and you're going w/ carbon fiber, 
>> shouldn't you have a carbon fiber rack?Not that I've heard of such, 
>> but if you're going custom
>>
>> FWIW...
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts

[Matthew J]

I hate using sun screen so prefer my shorts to cover my knees when riding. 
 Wool knickers I've seen all go for the Victorian era sporting gentleman 
look.  Not my style.  If you offer one with board short proportions my 
order will follow.

On Monday, September 23, 2013 6:52:57 AM UTC-5, Paul Y wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for some feedback on my pet project - cycling shorts inspired 
> by Grant's writings and also the posts of several on this group. 
> I had my prototype of these shorts made at the tailor's about 3 months ago 
> and have put about a thousand kilometers on them. 
> I have to say I am very pleased, and hope to bring these shorts to market 
> as a custom fitted, made-to-order product. 
>
> Link to flickr 
> photoset
>
> Any comments would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Paul
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo as Commuter

[Matthew J]

I wholeheartedly recommend using your best bike to commute with and to run 
errands with.

Definitely.  For the most of us it is the bike we that gets the most 
mileage.  Make those miles count.

Love the Rodeo as a flat bar single speed.  Looks great.

On Sunday, September 8, 2013 4:06:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I wholeheartedly recommend using your best bike to commute with and to run 
> errands with.
>
> I commuted for several years 15 miles across town on a custom Riv that I 
> had a local builder fixify. I had the bike built in '03 as a derailleur 
> gofast to match the '99 Joe-built custom fixed gofast but found it was 
> simply hanging and gathering dust. It easily accepts 32s and fenders and 
> with rack and panniers or a large saddlebag it handles medium (it is happy 
> up to, say, 30 lb in the rear; it doesn't like much more than 5 in the 
> front, so I don't bother with front loads) loads happily.
>
> I have no regrets in turning a custom into an errand bike and, now that i 
> work at home, it is still my most ridden bike (though the Fargo with new 
> tires may take the lead). If a significant part of your riding is "utility" 
> riding, as mine is, then IMO you should use the best bike you can afford, 
> and that you can keep secure, to do it with. 
>
> I love the gofast (a hair over 17 lb) but the errand Riv which apart from 
> useful additions like lighting and baggage is near-identical gets many more 
> miles. (The errand Riv weighs only 23 1/5 lb with lighting, rack, bell, 
> cages, and fenders but before any bags or bottles -- ie built but not 
> loaded. 17/19 t Dingle in rear, 48 in front, 32mm/25" actual 559 bsd Kojaks.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM, Trevor saxton 
> > wrote:
>
>> So I have raised enough capital to complete my Betty Foy project, however 
>> the BoxDog pelican was sacrificed in the process.so while I take the 
>> Betty Foy off to paint and start on a wheel build, I am in need of a 
>> commuter.
>>
>> Rivendell proves its versatility again as even a Roadeo can fit the bill 
>> at a commuter in a pinch, I don't need to carry much mind you as I have a 
>> private office which allows me to keep clothes ect at work, but still 
>> amazed at how comfortable my ride still is, 
>>
>> Still need some fenders but clipons work for now whenever it does rain. 
>>
>> Check it out.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157635430844965/
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[RBW] Re: Fender/Tire Clearance w/ the Pass and Stow front Rack?

[Matthew J]

Pass Stow made front racks for two of my customs.  Pretty sure if you 
e-mail Matt with your needs he will make a rack to accommodate. 

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 3:16:50 PM UTC-5, jphil...@me.com wrote:
>
> Hi,  Could anyone tell me what the maximum front tire/ fender clearance is 
> for the Pass & Stow rack?  
>
> I went to mount the Nitto Big Front rack on my 54cm Hunqapillar, and I 
> found I don't have enough room to clear my 55mm Big Bens and the fender.
>
> I could just go with adding the PlatRack, but I'd like to have the option 
> to use panniers in front.
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone who could help me out,
>
> John
>
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[RBW] Re: Faster Fat Tires

[Matthew J]

For the time being anyway may have to go with the Soma Xpress or other 
option.  Appears a lot of sources don't have Pari-Motos just now.

On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:59:23 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> I'm really impressed with how fast the Soma Xpress tires are for such a 
> cushy size. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:53:50 AM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> So Rivendell gave me Conti Tour tires on my new Sam. While they are OK 
>> they definitely are sluggish compared to other tires I have used. I would 
>> like to stay with a fatter tire on this bike but would like something a 
>> little swifter. It doesn't really need to be road racer fast or anything 
>> but something designed to be a little faster would be nice. My restrictions 
>> are that I need a 650B tire and I would prefer to get ones that are all 
>> black. I am flexible with the second one. Are Pari Motos my main choice? 
>> Are they strong enough for occasional rail to trail use?  If possible I 
>> would like to stay that wide or wider. Any suggestions?
>
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[RBW] Re: Limited Edition Betty Foy Color

[Matthew J]

> Of course they released it a few weeks after I bought mine. OF COURSE. 
> Just kidding. I love the original colour scheme. 

You're too mature!  I would be debating with myself as to why it now makes 
sense to have two.

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[RBW] Limited Edition Betty Foy Color

[Matthew J]

Appears the RBW team is going back and forth on whether it is green or 
blue.  

Whatever color, it looks great.  Here's hoping it finds it way on some 
other Rivs.

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Re: [RBW] Re: front or rear rack?

[Matthew J]

I like the idea of a rando bag on a small nitto I think.. thanks all. 

Matches what I would do.  If I am riding with only one rack, prefer front 
to back.  Easy to add a saddle bag if you need a little more space.

Of course bike geometry makes a difference.  My road bike with Italian '80s 
geometry does not like any sort of weight up front.  

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[RBW] Re: New rack!

[Matthew J]

Definitely knows how to braze and has a flair for cool understated design.  

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[RBW] Re: Grips for Albatross Bars

[Matthew J]

Something about silicon reminds me of grabbing hold a squid in rigger. I 
just don't find it a pleasant experience. It's too squishy (not enough 
feedback from the bars) and unbreathable. What's the attraction? Now cork, 
cotton tape, and some shellac, I'm a happy lad.

ESI grips are rather firm, not at all like silicone padded saddles for 
instance.  I use silver ESIs on my not painted and not polished stainless 
steel bike, as the color is close to the stainless steel.

When I last had my Albatross bars, I used fiber infused track bar grips. 
 Plenty of bar feel there.

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:45:26 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Something about silicon reminds me of grabbing hold a squid in rigger. I 
> just don't find it a pleasant experience. It's too squishy (not enough 
> feedback from the bars) and unbreathable. What's the attraction? Now cork, 
> cotton tape, and some shellac, I'm a happy lad.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:35:33 AM UTC-6, Mike wrote:
>>
>> I recently replaced my Ergon grips on my Surly Open Bar with the ESI 
>> Extra Chunky grips. They're great and actually feel better on my hands than 
>> the Ergons. Next time I mount up the Albatross bars I'll likely use these. 
>> You could probably cut a groove in them if you're using BE shifters with 
>> your Albas. 
>>
>> Maybe RBW will even start selling them as they're made in the USA.
>>
>> http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/index.php?category=4074
>>
>> --mike
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Appaloosa Update

[Matthew J]

Living in Chicago with most of my riding thereabouts and in the upper 
Midwest makes all this easy.

My primary bike is a single speed.

My tour bike is a 1x5.  Up front is a 46.  In back a Suntour Winner with 
14-34 cogs.  (thanks to Patrick Moore who pointed out a new cottage 
business in New Hampshire that repairs and preps freewheels)

While my plan had been to stick with two bikes, I could not resist the 
temptation to get what will be my third Retrotec.  More of a rough stuff 
cross type bike.  This will also be a 1x.  Plan to start with a 44 up 
front.  The rear hub is a King single speed.  I can either use a variety of 
King cogs, or, if gears seem necessary, the Jeff Jones (modified Shimano) 6 
speed cassette - 16-36.  (currently not offered on his site.  Hope Mr. 
Jones starts making these again as I would like to have a couple more.)

On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, William wrote:
>
> "Personally, I think the 
> "standard" Riv 110/74 "compact triple" is a better solution for most 
> riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of 
> triple and don't find them even slightly "confusing." "
>
> I totally agree with you there.  Very useful and very non-confusing. 
>  That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring 
> bike and my tandem.  It's fantastic!
>
> Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles.  You run 
> your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary 
> circumstances  that you practically never use.  That's precisely how I use 
> my touring bike and my tandem.  A close range 46/36 compact double would be 
> fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, 
> you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances.  I have no 
> problem with any of that.  Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you 
> tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, 
> particularly on rollers.  As you correctly pointed out, people have to find 
> what they like on the terrain they will be riding.  
>
> I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing 
> range.  If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton 
> of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, 
> because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you 
> correctly pointed out.   
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: 
>> > "Regardless of the cassette in question, the "big jump" is due to the 
>> > 53.8% difference between the chain rings." 
>> > 
>> > My jump is 47% between chainrings.  That's much bigger than the 27% 
>> > jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from 
>> > your 24 to your 36.  I don't know if I should go mad or not! 
>>
>> There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to 
>> middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from 
>> small to large chain ring.  It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift 
>> to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it.   
>> It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time 
>> riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I 
>> don't have to use the granny.A wide range double, on the other hand, 
>> is shifted often. 
>>
>> However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are 
>> obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- 
>> especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 
>> 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the 
>> "standard" Riv 110/74 "compact triple" is a better solution for most 
>> riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of 
>> triple and don't find them even slightly "confusing." 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: VO Touring Hub vs XT?

[Matthew J]

I would go with the XT.  VO has some pretty ardent fans.  I used to be back 
in the day when they were still selling NOS Pelissier hubs, racks made by 
Banjo and some incredible wicker baskets hand made by an Amish family in 
rural Minnesota (why did I ever give mine away!?!).  I tried a few of the 
VO brand stuff at the start and found them big on looks but low on quality.

XT is a proven commodity.  Looks like a commodity but is priced like one 
too.

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:58:29 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Any thoughts? I can get the XT hub pretty cheap, VO would appear to win on 
> looks but will cost me about double.  Phil/Paul would be great but not in 
> the budget for this wheelset.
>  
> Tony
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: What's with the MUSA shorts? Clue me in please.

[Matthew J]

This goes back to the earlier thread on padded vs. not padded shorts.  

If you are one of those who are fine without padding, the MUSA shorts, 
knickers and pants are great for the reasons the others point out above. 
 They are well made, breathe, and the seamless crotch works.  Some people 
cannot ride distance without padding.  MUSA don't help there.

On Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:12:05 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Everyone seems to love them for their biking comfort.
>  
> I am not particularly comfortable cycling in everyday shorts or sweatpants 
> on bikes (though 98% of my riding is done in them),
> so I don't see how the MUSA's will be an improvement for me.
> Am I missing something?
>  
> I would like to experience the benefits you all are getting from them.
> But before dropping the serious coin on them, need more info about what 
> makes them better than any other regular pants.
> Thanks for your help.
>

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[RBW] Re: Practical differences - SON vs Shimano Dyno hub?

[Matthew J]

> This may also argue for using the less expensive hub on a commuter bike, 
as folks often use stouter tires for commuting.

Maybe just dumb luck, but I have been commuting on wonderfully smooth 
rolling Grand Bois Cypres (SON hub up front) now for 7 months with no 
flats.  If a commuter can afford the experiment, I highly recommend trying. 
 After all, most people who bike commute spend more of their cycling time 
on the commuter than any other bike.

Also, SON makes some great rough stuff variants.  Just this week Peter 
White says he is now stocking a fat wheel SON.


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[RBW] Re: Practical differences - SON vs Shimano Dyno hub?

[Matthew J]

I have only had the SON.  Looks are subjective of course, but I think the 
SON is somewhat homely compared to my MaxiCar and Peter Weigle modified 
Campy Gran Sport front hubs.

What is not subjective about the SON is how smooth it rides on or off, it 
durability, and the quality of the charge.  

SON is a small company without the management and marketing expenses 
Shimano has.  So to me anyway it seems a stretch to suggest the extra cost 
of a SON -v- the competition is pizzazz.  The SON is a well engineered, 
well built piece of kit.  I could never see buying anything else.

On Saturday, August 17, 2013 12:38:43 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Any personal experiences to back up the price delta?  I'm currently 
> running a shimano on my 650b converted trek. Aside from an intermittent 
> 'chirp' that I sometimes notice I have no complaints.  I'll be building up 
> another dyno wheel in 700c this fall, and I'm curious if anyone can talk me 
> into the son.   It definitely wins on looks...
>
> Is it basically like choosing between a nice XT/105 rear hub vs a 
> king/white/Paul version...?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

[Matthew J]

> Reading this, I see that all the posters are male, except for me.  The 
alleged "anti bike shorts" vibe is what keeps me from participating in the 
Rivendell ride held annually in PDX.  I thought it was about the 
> BIKE, not the dress code. 

That is really a shame.  From what I have read, many female riders have 
difficulty finding a comfortable saddle.  

Lately I am doing much better with my cycling different strokes for 
different folks attitude.  But even in most ardent 'no diapers' days, I 
accepted that saddle makers just had not figured out a lot of women riders. 
 Nowadays though whatever the rider wants to wear I am good with it.  Just 
don't expect me to wear the dang things!

On Thursday, August 15, 2013 3:01:56 PM UTC-5, Lynne Fitz wrote:
>
> Reading this, I see that all the posters are male, except for me.  The 
> alleged "anti bike shorts" vibe is what keeps me from participating in the 
> Rivendell ride held annually in PDX.  I thought it was about the BIKE, not 
> the dress code.
>
> On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:26:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>>
>> What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or 
>> English, etc.
>>  
>> I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from 
>> Walnut Creek.
>>  
>> But I just cannot go more than 20 miles in regular pants without 
>> sweat-soaked undergarments just squeaking away against my flesh like a 
>> squeegee. Ouch!!
>>  
>> I use LBS padded shorts for long rides but looking for something with a 
>> thicker pad and maybe bigger in the back for my upright Alba riding 
>> posture, since that puts more sitting area on the rear of the rear, so to 
>> speak.
>>  
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for bicycle saddles? 3 questions for RivRiders.

[Matthew J]

Hilsen - Berthoud Aspin

Hilsen is on Nantucket.  Use it for all my annual visit transportation. 
 Upright bars.  The Aspin is very comfortable saddle for me.

Got my Brooks Cambium the other day.  So far liking it a lot.  On a non-Riv 
reel bike with '80s era Italian geometry and drops.  

On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:21:41 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> Since I asked about shorts, I thought I'd ask about saddles, too.
>  
> 1. What are the most comfortable saddles that you use? Please give the 
> full name of the saddle (like, don't say just "Terry saddle", if it was a 
> "Terry Liberator Y Gel saddle").
>  
> 2. Please state for which kind of riding you use the saddle (ex: 
> racing/touring/dirt/stunt/commuting/drops/upright, etc.).
>  
> 3. On which of your bikes do you use the saddle (ex: 
> Riv/All-R/Lego/Cust/Ram/Rom/Red/Bomb/Ap/At/Bet/Yv/Sam/Hunq/Road/Glor/Wilb/Bler/Homer/Simp/Quick/whatever
>  
> other models they make)?
>  
> 4. Feel free to link to a pic of your saddle.
>  
> Interesting to read about these things.
> For instance, I read that someone stated they used their B67 or 68 
> for bars-below-saddle riding, though contrary to its designed purpose, I 
> think.
>  
> Always nice to hear that people are using gear outside the box with 
> success.
> Helps keep perspective and not always buy into the "no you can't" gear 
> zeitgeists that are always flying around bicycle circles.
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

[Matthew J]

I think GP wants you to be happy on your bike.

And if that means wearing padded shorts, nylon shorts, denim shorts, 
diapers, or nothing at all, I expect he will concur (well, maybe not on the 
last one).

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

[Matthew J]

> My favorites are the Patagonia stand-up shorts with the lightweight 
Devold wool underwear. I've done 90+ miles with a heavy load along the 
pacific coast and never had any trouble. Might not work as well > though if 
it was really hot. For me, this is plenty of padding, and it breathes well. 

I wish Patagonia made the stand-ups a little longer as I always neglect to 
put enough sun screen on my knees.  They are definitely great for long 
rides.

Must say the lack of any sort of consensus from the RBW folks on these 
polls is quite refreshing.  Riv/GP fans come from all corners!

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders wear for cycling shorts for long rides?

[Matthew J]

Musa or Musa style shorts.  Base layer either Capilene or merino wool 
depending on weather.

Few years back under heavy peer pressure from the group on a tour I tried 
some high end padded shorts.  I found the damn things uncomfortably clammy. 
 The pads act like a sponge gathering sweat and storing heat.  Definitely 
not for me.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:26:54 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
>
> What do you Rivendell riders wear on long rides? Centuries, metric or 
> English, etc.
>  
> I know there is a general anti-padded-shorts vibe that emanates from 
> Walnut Creek.
>  
> But I just cannot go more than 20 miles in regular pants without 
> sweat-soaked undergarments just squeaking away against my flesh like a 
> squeegee. Ouch!!
>  
> I use LBS padded shorts for long rides but looking for something with a 
> thicker pad and maybe bigger in the back for my upright Alba riding 
> posture, since that puts more sitting area on the rear of the rear, so to 
> speak.
>  
> Thanks for any advice.
>

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[RBW] Re: Summer Riding.

[Matthew J]

Great pictures Manny.  Looks like you all had a great time.

Of course must point out the Northern Cali definition of Fall is 
considerably different from what we in the Northern Midwest think of it ;)

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[RBW] Re: Cycling is inherently conservative.

[Matthew J]

As to the gravamen of the thread, of course the concept of liberalism and 
conservatism in England is quite different from 21st Century United States.

On Saturday, July 27, 2013 1:12:51 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/
>
> And not only conservative, but snarling, Cobbett-like, High Church 
> Anglican, old-crusted-port, dyed-in-wool Tory (but bitterly anti-Cameron!) 
> village-sage-type conservative.
>
> Damn'd Whigs!
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Re: [RBW] Cycling is inherently conservative.

[Matthew J]

>Carbon fiber reinforced plastics are only the latest expression of 
"innovation" that has caused much harm from injuries when steerer tubes, 
fork blades and frames have >snapped under normal and/or readily 
foreseeable less-than-normal situations.   

I cannot see myself ever wanting anything other than an all steel bike, and 
I have never once worn (and doubtful never will) form fitting cycle shorts 
or cycle only shoes.

Must say though that I am actually intrigued with what Argonaut is doing 
with CF sheet tubings.  For some reason I thought CF could only be made in 
an injection molding  type process.  Argonaut's process video really opened 
my eyes to the possibility of making micro adjustments to tube diameter 
allowing a level of custom design impossible with steel.  May take a 
generation before there is enough data to match the technology to users, 
but it seems a worthwhile pursuit to me.

>CNC milled parts such as stems and cranks which had an unacceptably high 
failure rate would be yet another; some of those are still with us today 
because the people >manufacturing those products too often fail to 
understand metallurgy and metal fabrication adequately. 

You do not name brands, but my take away from the remark is based on my and 
a lot of other people's experience, the folks at Paul and White must 
understand metallurgy and metal fabrication as their cranks and now with 
Paul seat posts are very durable with low fail rates.

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[RBW] Blug 7/19 S240 Pics

[Matthew J]

Gotta love Manny looking cool and collected off roading in J Crew!

Great pics all around.

Question for the locals: GP says the camping is technically illegal.  Is that 
trail on State or private property?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Exceptional Rainwear

[Matthew J]

> I have not climbed or hiked in Scotland, but the people I talked with 
about the Grampians have told me it is a beautiful and difficult place. The 
high latitude (think northern Canada) combined with winds from Atlantic 
depressions makes for a difficult climate. That said, I want to get to the 
West Highland trail with the Hunqapillar! Be well - Bob


Definitely the high latitude makes a big difference.  I've read a couple of 
good books about Denali (hey, we can all dream!).  Some climbers who have 
climbed the Himalayas, Alps, and Andes will look at the relatively low 
elevation and wind up underestimating the extreme challenges climbing so 
far north present.

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[RBW] Re: Stainless steel versus grey-coat Tubus Fly?

[Matthew J]

Thanks.  Will look into this.
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:44:15 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: 
>
> Matthew, again referencing my daughter's bike - she has Lone Peak 
> panniers, which allow you adjust the bottom hook position to keep the bag 
> as far back on the rack as possible. The top clamps also bite pretty solid 
> on the large tubing.  Tubus and Lone Peak are a great combo.  
>
> On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:40:34 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: 
>>
>> Depending on the length of your chainstays / crank arms, you may have 
>> trouble avoiding heel strike with a large rear pannier on the Fly.  
>> Otherwise, it is a nice and versatile design.
>
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[RBW] Re: Stainless steel versus grey-coat Tubus Fly?

[Matthew J]

Depending on the length of your chainstays / crank arms, you may have 
trouble avoiding heel strike with a large rear pannier on the Fly.  
Otherwise, it is a nice and versatile design.

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[RBW] Re: Stainless steel versus grey-coat Tubus Fly?

[Matthew J]

$83.00 is suspiciously inexpensive for stainless.  Believe all the models 
are available in silver powder in Europe.

FWIW I have silver powder Duos.  The powder seems to be holding up well.

On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:57:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I ordered what was supposed to be a stainless steel Fly from ProBikeKit in 
> Britain -- $83 and change express shipped from Britain (arrived today after 
> 7 days). It looks to me like a grey powdercoat, not stainless steel.
>  
> No big worries, since, looks apart, I actually prefer the chromo model 
> because it is both lighter and stronger, but nonetheless, a question: does 
> Tubus make a "silver' powdercoat Fly model?
>
> I'd rather have the grey than black, at any rate. It's for the '03 Curt 
> Riv Custom Errand bike, to replace with panniers the very nice, but not 
> quite large enough or easy enough to use Sackville Medium.
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[RBW] Re: FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[Matthew J]

Good question:  130 mm
On Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:39:51 AM UTC-5, ageorge...@gmail.com wrote: 
>
> Matthew, what is spacing?
> Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[Matthew J]

700C (And a big old duh on my part for hitting send before adding!)

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:19:01 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> For sale is a never used Rich Lesnik built single speed wheel and 
> freewheels:
>
> White Industries 36h Silver Eno Hub
> Velocity Dyad Silver Rim
> New White Industries 18 teeth Freewheel
> Lightly (very) used White Industries 22 teeth Freewheel
> Zefal Rim Tape
>
> $150.00 price is real cheap and is only for someone who can pick this up - 
> I am on the Northwest side of Chicago.
>
> If there are no local buyers I may offer to ship but price will be closer 
> to actual value.
>

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[RBW] FS: New Rough Stuff Single Speed Rear Wheel - $150.00 (pick up only)

[Matthew J]

For sale is a never used Rich Lesnik built single speed wheel and 
freewheels:

White Industries 36h Silver Eno Hub
Velocity Dyad Silver Rim
New White Industries 18 teeth Freewheel
Lightly (very) used White Industries 22 teeth Freewheel
Zefal Rim Tape

$150.00 price is real cheap and is only for someone who can pick this up - 
I am on the Northwest side of Chicago.

If there are no local buyers I may offer to ship but price will be closer 
to actual value.

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Re: [RBW] Chris King Headset

[Matthew J]

I like CK headsets and have used them on a number of builds over the years. 
 But the loud logo even in the soto voce and Ti versions does not move me.

My last three builds have silver Cane Creek 110s.  Also made in the US. 
 Pretty darn lovely in my opinion.  Silver version the logo is all but 
invisible.  So far no issues three years in my CC phase.

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:42:20 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote:
>
> American designed and made, to exacting standards, in an employee-friendly 
> atmosphere, and an environmentally responsible way.  Lots there to like 
> IMO.That said, probably more financially justifiable for a rough use 
> mountain bike which puts a great deal more strain on a headset.
>
> Plus, the fine finish and colors-bike jewelry!  B-)
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Don Genovese 
> > wrote:
>
>> What's with the Chris King headset? I've owned at least twenty-five bikes 
>> over the last thirty years, none with a Chris King headset. I've never had 
>> a head set fail. Perhaps they will require replacement at some time but I 
>> don't think they actually break. Why do people pay such outrageous prices 
>> for a Chris King. IMO any headset is not worth that price. Just my rant.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

[Matthew J]

> 'Course, the blog threads (like most of 'em on that blog site) 
immediately deteriorated into character slamming, name calling, 
> and generous use of vulgar invectives over whether or not the driver was 
a criminal.  Ignore those remarks if you go there
This is what drives people to become hermits.  A good person died.  Many 
other good people are out a good friend.  Save the petty bickering for 
later.

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[RBW] Re: Terrible News

[Matthew J]

Nice guy.  Along with back and forth here and on other forums, Seth sent me 
thoughtful e-mails off line.  Really very sad news.

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 2:03:07 PM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote:
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> via Twitter:
>
> *ThePathLessPedaled* @*pathlesspedaled* 
> 
>  
>
> Just found out a reader from Durham was killed in a hit and run. RIP Seth 
> Vidal. http://bit.ly/1bljzbI 
> http://www.wral.com/bicyclist-killed-in-durham-hit-and-run/12639104/
>
> I do not know if this is the same person who is regular here. I did not 
> know him personally. The PLP video they link to features a nice guy on an 
> Atlantis. (If not, my apologies for causing undue grief.)
>
> Thoughts and prayers for his family and friends.
>
> -Pete in CT
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[RBW] Re: IGH on a touring bike?

[Matthew J]

> Personally I can't stand spinning a 20" low gear up some steep hill at 2 
mph. I'd rather walk. 
 
Same here.
 
Believe the evidence is clearly in on the Rohloff for long distance and 
rough stuff touring.  Mine was quite a robust piece of work.

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[RBW] Re: IGH on a touring bike?

[Matthew J]

His risk assessment was that the likelihood of the IGH going bad was less 
than that of bent derailleur hangers etc.  He also factored in the greater 
weight of the IGH.  Of course, YMMV.  We each make our own risk 
assessments.  :.)

I am going to do a trial run on The Wisconsin Adventure Trail first, but my 
current plans is to use White Industries Eno hub with a White free wheel 
for my rough stuff tourer.  I will use a 17 for the road and flat portion 
of the trip then switch over to a 22 when things get rough.  If it works I 
am thinking of using this for my (currently in planning stage may not 
happen) Atacama desert to the Patagonia tour.

On Thursday, July 4, 2013 1:16:48 PM UTC-5, Nick Worthington wrote:
>
> There's a set of documentaries by an English guy who rode around the 
> world, then did Alaska to the tip or South America.  He chose a Rohloff 
> over derailleur gears, on the theory that it was less likely to have 
> problems.  As Marc Irwin points out, if it had broken, he'd of been 
> screwed.  His risk assessment was that the likelihood of the IGH going bad 
> was less than that of bent derailleur hangers etc.  He also factored in the 
> greater weight of the IGH.  Of course, YMMV.  We each make our own risk 
> assessments.  :.)
>
> Nick W.
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2013 10:47:42 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> this guy is using one on a Surly Krampus so it is being done   
>> http://www.whileoutriding.com/bike-talk/gear-ponderings
>>
>> I did not go through the whole blog, but the linked page shows a tour 
>> bike with Rohloff.  
>>
>> I tried both Rohloff and Alfine before going back to ders (happily using 
>> one by 5 on my multi speed bike).  Rohloff is much more robust than the 
>> Alfine and definitely the choice over Alfine for loaded or long distance 
>> touring.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: IGH on a touring bike?

[Matthew J]

this guy is using one on a Surly Krampus so it is being done   
http://www.whileoutriding.com/bike-talk/gear-ponderings

I did not go through the whole blog, but the linked page shows a tour bike 
with Rohloff.  

I tried both Rohloff and Alfine before going back to ders (happily using 
one by 5 on my multi speed bike).  Rohloff is much more robust than the 
Alfine and definitely the choice over Alfine for loaded or long distance 
touring.


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Re: [RBW] I await these being sold by Riv shortly :)

[Matthew J]

Will they completely ruin the aerodynamics of the bike!?  :)

Maybe, but a dress or skirt caught in the spokes can pull the rider into 
non-aero position pretty quick.


>  

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