Re: multiple identical mounts on rh7.0 ??
Bill Nottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tony Nugent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Why am I permitted to mount exactly the same (local) partition more than once (and on exactly the same mount point)? It's a 2.4 kernel thing. What is the utility in this? ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
is _GNU_SOURCE defined by gcc ?
hi,
the followning simple code can prodcuce non-gnu both on red hat 6.2 and
7.0 (with the default gcc) at the same time with the latest cvs gcc
it's print gnu. what is the difference and how can I force gcc to
define _GNU_SOURCE (-D_GNU_SOURCE seems to be a solution but I don't
know whether is there any reason that it's not defined by default or not)?
-
#include iostream
int main()
{
#ifdef _GNU_SOURCE
std::cout "gnu\n";
#else
std::cout "non-gnu\n";
#endif
}
-
since if it's not defined many other defines (see below) from features.h
(glibc) won't defined so many glibc functions (eg.: pthread_mutexattr_settype)
won't find, cause in this case _XOPEN_SOURCE is not defined and therefore
neither __USE_UNIX98...
-
/* If _GNU_SOURCE was defined by the user, turn on all the other features. */
#ifdef _GNU_SOURCE
# undef _ISOC99_SOURCE
# define _ISOC99_SOURCE 1
# undef _POSIX_SOURCE
# define _POSIX_SOURCE 1
# undef _POSIX_C_SOURCE
# define _POSIX_C_SOURCE199506L
# undef _XOPEN_SOURCE
# define _XOPEN_SOURCE 600
# undef _XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED
# define _XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED 1
# undef _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
# define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE1
# undef _BSD_SOURCE
# define _BSD_SOURCE1
# undef _SVID_SOURCE
# define _SVID_SOURCE 1
#endif
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Re: is _GNU_SOURCE defined by gcc ?
Florian Weimer wrote:
Levente Farkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
the followning simple code can prodcuce non-gnu both on red hat 6.2 and
7.0 (with the default gcc) at the same time with the latest cvs gcc
it's print gnu. what is the difference and how can I force gcc to
define _GNU_SOURCE (-D_GNU_SOURCE seems to be a solution but I don't
know whether is there any reason that it's not defined by default or not)?
When you use the GNU C Library, you have to define _GNU_SOURCE if you
want to use certain extensions. These extensions are not available on
some non-GNU systems; the idea is that this prevents you from
accidently using them and making your software less portable.
It's even documented in the GNU C Library manual ("Feature Test
Macros"):
| - Macro: _GNU_SOURCE
| If you define this macro, everything is included: ISO C89,
| ISO C99, POSIX.1, POSIX.2, BSD, SVID, X/Open, LFS, and GNU
| extensions. In the cases where POSIX.1 conflicts with BSD, the
| POSIX definitions take precedence.
BTW: This hasn't much to do with GCC (the compiler itself), so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not appropriate for this kind of discussion.
this's not that simple since if I try the current gcc
(http://www.codesourcery.com/gcc-snapshots/) with the following configure
options (and I assume there is not any sepcial in this):
--
configure --prefix=/tmp/gcc-20001124-root/usr/local --enable-shared
--enable-threads --disable-checking i386-pc-linux-gnu
--
than it's produce a gcc/g++ which DO define _GNU_SOURCE! why ? or why
redhat's gcc doesn't define it ??? what other macros defined by the
default and rh's gcc ?
what's more if redhat use their gcc (which doesn't define _GNU_SOURCE)
to compile other packages like glibc than it can cause further problems
eg. I can't use those "extended" features even if I define _GNU_SOURCE
in my source (but not defined is compiled libs). am I wrong ?
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app startup error(font)
Hi, When i try to start an applicaiton i get this on my RH7.0. Any idea what that might be. Font specified in font.properties not found [--symbol-mediun-r-normal]--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific J _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
web browser
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Re: xDSL Modem
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: It depends on the "modem". What they do is use one of the "private" IP's to access the "modem". For exanple, to access a Telocity "modem", you can point your web browser to 10.5.1.2 and get some nice pages. I guessed something like that, but I dont know what IP my DSL Modem has. How do I get that Information? The Manufactor of it is Siemens, but I couldnt find a manual at the net... DSL "modems" are not realy modems. They are a router or bridge. But people are used to connecting to the Internet using modems, so the name carried over. Look up the definition of a modem sometime - they convert between digital and analog signals. A DSL connection is a Digital connection. True. Thanks anyways, Dirk ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: OT: xDSL Modem
Hal Burgiss wrote: Yes, I even log statistics. But not all have these features. What modem? I havent looked exactly, but it must be either a Siemens NTBBA 40 157 768-100 , Siemens NTBBA 40 155 752-100 or Siemens 40 155 749-100 . Do you know how I could get the DSL Modems IP so I can telnet it ? greetings, Dirk ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
xfs problem - addendum (was: Is there another list?)
On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:34:48PM -0700, Michael Lewis wrote: [...] When I started it back up, and tried to startx, I got the following message: _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111 failed to set default font path ' unix/:-1" Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown) [...] Just for completeness' sake: I remembered something yesterday: The above error message points to xfs not having started during bootup. xfs won't start if it can't write to the disk. What I remembered was that I got the very same error message a while ago when I accidentally had changed the permissions on /tmp to read-only = xfs couldn't write to /tmp = xfs didn't start = X crapped out when I tried to run it. Just another thing to keep in mind if anybody encounters this error again. Cheerio, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete quotes and plain text only!" Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.bigfoot.com/~kaytan | ICQ#: 15839919 "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: xDSL Modem
This 'carrying over' is also very true for ISDN TAs. At least here in Europe. If you enter a shop asking for a TA they look at you with eyes wide open. Then you explain that you want an 'ISDN modem' and they are ready to sell [you your TA]. Regards Gustav Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: DSL "modems" are not realy modems. They are a router or bridge. But people are used to connecting to the Internet using modems, so the name carried over. Look up the definition of a modem sometime - they convert between digital and analog signals. A DSL connection is a Digital connection. -- pgp = Pretty Good Privacy. To get my public pgp key, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at http://www.schaffter.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: web browser
If you want a full-featured browser (most of the included browsers like the one in KDE aren't complete yet), then I suggest looking at Opera. You can get a copy from www.opera.com. I run that or NetScape, mostly Opera as it's far faster and much more reliable. The KDE explorer is fine if I'm doing lookups on Linux documentation and stuff, but not complete enough for browsing proper. As a side point, Linux related sites always tend to be more cross platform compatible. You know full well that as soon as you see .asp in a URL then you have to revert to IE (ignorant MS brainwashed idiots). = Original Message from Shanmuga Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] at 24/11/00 09:11 Is Netscape the only web browser available for Linux, or is there any other option ? Thx ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Yes, Vidiot's theory makes sense. However, there is a slim possibility that some switches on the hub are set wrong? Perhaps the 'cascade' button or something similar to that effect is set wrong on the hub itself. Bear in mind, a crossover cable IIRC is necessary between two hubs, and the 'cascade' button has to be in a particular state for that sort of connection. I'm babbling, so I'll just say this: play around with the switches (if any present) on the hub. g L.G. That would only affect one of the three boxes, not all of them. The original poster made it sound like he ran ping tests from all three boxes and it didn't work. But, it is possible that he ran ping tests from only one boxes to the others, in which the switch could indeed be set wrong. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: web browser
Shanmuga Raj¡A§A¦n¡I Another good browser is Opera. Regards, Michael ¦b 2000/11/24 PM 04:11:00 §A¼g¹D¡R Is Netscape the only web browser available for Linux, or is there any other option ? Thx ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Regards, Michael Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (was: xfs problems)
Hello Everyone, I just wanted to update you on my problem. My system is still working fine and I'm still trying to free up some additional disk space. I have removed a couple of programs I tried, but didn't really like, and I'm compressing some other programs that I probably won't use for a while. I am stumped on something though. I have a 9.6G hard drive and I'm set up as a dual boot with Linux and Win95. My disk space tool under 95 says that I have 2G capacity on "C" and 2G's on "D". That leaves approximately 5G between my primary Linux partition and my swap space. When I ran df last night, It only showed about 1-1.5G of maximum space. I believe we set my swap space at 300M which would seem to mean that there is 3G of disk space somewhere that's not being used by Linux or 95. I was reading my "Running Linux" book and it said I could run the swap space from a file and re-mount my existing swap space on /. Is the 128M of RAM on my system enough to do away with the swap space entirely, or should I keep some on a file anyway? This would appear to give me some more needed space. Also, is it possible that when we did the initial installation, we created a partion, but for some reason we didn't give it a proper mount point so it's just not showing up? Thanks, michael ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: web browser
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:50:04AM +, kevin wrote: [...] The KDE explorer is fine if I'm doing lookups on Linux documentation and stuff, but not complete enough for browsing proper. [...] Apparently, you haven't tried KDE 2.0's browser "konqueror" yet - Javascript support (not sure whether that's a good thing...), Netscape plugin support, Java support (haven't tried it yet, though), basically all you need. It can even import your Netscape bookmarks. At the moment I'm using it on Solaris 2.6/Sparc instead of Netscape (but without running KDE), and so far it seems stable and is reasonably fast. There are definitely a few bugs left, but after what I'm used to from Netscape, there seems to be hope yet. In addition, it has a few nice features Netscape *doesn't* have, like domain specific cookie settings or domain specific Java/Javascript settings. As a side point, Linux related sites always tend to be more cross platform compatible. You know full well that as soon as you see .asp in a URL then you have to revert to IE (ignorant MS brainwashed idiots). Can't quite confirm that. The only pages I ever got stuck on with Netscape were those that either explicitly asked for IE (fortunately only a few - and those that do usually don't have any content worthwhile watching anyway) or those requiring a plugin not available for Netscape/Solaris or Netscape/Linux (haven't seen too many of those, either). ".asp" as such usually doesn't cause a problem - what it does cause is a flood of cookies (blessed be Junkbuster...)... My EUR0.02, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete quotes and plain text only!" Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.bigfoot.com/~kaytan | ICQ#: 15839919 "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Unsubscribe to mail list
No moreso than it was to get on the list in the first place, though. And, while you're at it, think of it this way. What would you think if you wanted to stay on the list, but someone went to the listman page and was able to simply unsubscribe you without your permission. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Bob Chaput wrote: I finally found the "Edit Options" Now I get the message that my Password is incorrect. I have asked to have it sent to me. What a pain in the ass to get off the list. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Unsubscribe to mail list
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writing to dos partitions
I am having trouble writing to my win95 (fat32) partition. I have tried mounting the dos partition with mount -o uid=123,gid=123 /dev/hd?? /mnt/dospartition The error message I get when trying to copy to the dos partition is cp: cannot create regular file `/dos/Data/dead.letter': Permission denied Any ideas david ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (was: xfs problems)
Hello Everyone, I just wanted to update you on my problem. My system is still working fine and I'm still trying to free up some additional disk space. I have removed a couple of programs I tried, but didn't really like, and I'm compressing some other programs that I probably won't use for a while. I am stumped on something though. I have a 9.6G hard drive and I'm set up as a dual boot with Linux and Win95. My disk space tool under 95 says that I have 2G capacity on "C" and 2G's on "D". That leaves approximately 5G between my primary Linux partition and my swap space. When I ran df last night, It only showed about 1-1.5G of maximum space. I believe we set my swap space at 300M which would seem to mean that there is 3G of disk space somewhere that's not being used by Linux or 95. I was reading my "Running Linux" book and it said I could run the swap space from a file and re-mount my existing swap space on /. Is the 128M of RAM on my system enough to do away with the swap space entirely, or should I keep some on a file anyway? This would appear to give me some more needed space. Also, is it possible that when we did the initial installation, we created a partion, but for some reason we didn't give it a proper mount point so it's just not showing up? Thanks, michael Send the output of "df -k" and the printout of partitions from "fdisk /dev/hda" back. (Assuming your one hard disk is IDE...) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Problem: Recompiling kernel 2.2.16 an 2.2.17
Hi, I had a problem to recompile 2.2.16 and 2.2.17 kernels. Error in make bzImage command: make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/mm' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/mm' make -C arch/i386/lib make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/lib' make all_targets make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/lib' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -D__ASSEMBLY__ -traditional -c checksum.S -o checksum.o checksum.S:231: badly punctuated parameter list in #define checksum.S:237: badly punctuated parameter list in #define make[2]: *** [checksum.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/lib' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/lib' make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/lib] Error 2 File checksum.S: #define SRC(y...) \ : y; \ .section __ex_table, "a"; \ .long b, 6001f ; \ .previous- Line 231 #define DST(y...) \ : y; \ .section __ex_table, "a"; \ .long b, 6002f ; \ .previous- Line 237 I recompile 2.4-test11, but only pcmcia modules was created (make modules; make modules_install). Anybody here know how to make this work?! Thanks. SCG ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: web browser
i usually use lynx coz i don't usually need the graphics. makes browsing a lot faster : ). bobby Is Netscape the only web browser available for Linux, or is there any other option ? Thx ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (was: xfs problems)
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:32:11 -0700, Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: more needed space. Also, is it possible that when we did the initial installation, we created a partion, but for some reason we didn't give it a proper mount point so it's just not showing up? To find out where your missing HD space is, run "fdisk", or better "cfdisk". It will show you how your HD is partitioned. You should be able to figure out if you've got a patition that isn't mounted, or if you have free space which you forgot to partition, etc. When you run fdisk/cfdisk be careful not to print the partition table (unless you're sure you want to make changes). -- Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch Med ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: writing to dos partitions
You probably want to add the "umask" option to your "mount" command. I mount my win partition with umask=0. The umask option is described in the manpage for mount. -- Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch Med On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:36:15 -0500 (EST), David Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble writing to my win95 (fat32) partition. I have tried mounting the dos partition with mount -o uid=123,gid=123 /dev/hd?? /mnt/dospartition The error message I get when trying to copy to the dos partition is cp: cannot create regular file `/dos/Data/dead.letter': Permission denied ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Netscape 6.0 not seeing existing mail setup, etc.
Now I've done it! I installed this despite better judgment. How do I get it to see my existing mail setup? I didn't understand the profiling setup at all. If it overwritten/deleted mail, or setup I will probably bet irrationally violent. Maybe I can just simply re-install 4.76 from rpms? Someone has just got to have been here before me, and can help me, or so, I;m hoping very much... -- Ed June [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux: An open choice for free people worldwide. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
Timothy Reaves wrote: Statux wrote: After some hard drive corruption (due to a crash) I have several files that look like: This file is marked as a block special file which only root can remove. You can try doing 'chmod 0664 media' (with the leading 0) and see what happens... but if a crash changed a bunch of files over to block special.. yer simplest solution is to toss em (as root) and forget about it ;) Why did they become block special files? shrug note the major and minor numbers tho.. and the user:group settings. Looks like data corruption. Just toss em ;) Again, only root can manipulate files like this :) no good: [root@double treaves]# whoami root [root@double treaves]# chmod 0664 media chmod: media: Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# chmod 0664 .starteam chmod: .starteam: Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# Have you tried over writing them and then deleting or using rm -f? -- Regards, Greg Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: writing to dos partitions
Hi Larry I can now access the directory. What is interesting is the first time I write a file to the dos partition, I get the following error: cp: preserving permissions for /dos/Data/dead.letter: Operation not permitted It does work, I will have to read the man pages again on mount thanks again Larry david On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Larry Grover wrote: You probably want to add the "umask" option to your "mount" command. I mount my win partition with umask=0. The umask option is described in the manpage for mount. -- Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch Med On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:36:15 -0500 (EST), David Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble writing to my win95 (fat32) partition. I have tried mounting the dos partition with mount -o uid=123,gid=123 /dev/hd?? /mnt/dospartition The error message I get when trying to copy to the dos partition is cp: cannot create regular file `/dos/Data/dead.letter': Permission denied ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Timothy Reaves wrote: Have you tried over writing them and then deleting or using rm -f? Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. -- Dave Ihnat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
apachectl
Hello. I currently have RH7.0 with apache-1.3.14-3, apache-manual-1.3.14-3 and apache-devel-1.3.14-3 installed. I've seen references to apachectl in a number of postings on this group however I can't find he apachectl script in my distributions. Can someone tell me a little more about the apachectl script and if I need it since most of what I've seen regarding the apachectl script can be done with the standard: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd [start|stop|restart...|etc]. Thank you Lou. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
** Reply to message from Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:56:57 -0600 (CST) Yes, Vidiot's theory makes sense. However, there is a slim possibility that some switches on the hub are set wrong? Perhaps the 'cascade' button or something similar to that effect is set wrong on the hub itself. Bear in mind, a crossover cable IIRC is necessary between two hubs, and the 'cascade' button has to be in a particular state for that sort of connection. I'm babbling, so I'll just say this: play around with the switches (if any present) on the hub. g L.G. That would only affect one of the three boxes, not all of them. The original poster made it sound like he ran ping tests from all three boxes and it didn't work. But, it is possible that he ran ping tests from only one boxes to the others, in which the switch could indeed be set wrong. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result. The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs. Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
basic question: busy devicess
In the process of testing mounting and umounting. I ended up with a partition, which is busy. At least the system thinks it is busy. This leads to two questions. How do you find out what is using a device? Second how do you force a device to umount (or become free)? david ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result. The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs. Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Silly question: are all the hubs equal? Are they single speed? If so, are they the same speed? Some single speed, some dual? The problems sound as if the NICs and some of the hubs are operating at different speeds, while the NICs and the working hub are operating at the same speed. - rick warner - ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: web browser
You may also want to try Emacs or Xemacs with W3. You can configure text browsers (such as Lynx) to open pics with xv or other graphics tool. -Manuel. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]En nombre de Michele Baldessari Enviado el: Viernes, 24 de Noviembre de 2000 03:25 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: web browser On Friday 24 November 2000 10:11, you wrote: Is Netscape the only web browser available for Linux, or is there any other option ? The other options that come to mind now are : lynx (the one and only ;), mozilla (it's quite stable for me now..still quite heavy), amaya, opera (second beta just came out) and konqueror (www.konqueror.org). There are others (like www for xemacs) but i've never used them ciao, Michele ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: apachectl
Lou Spironello wrote: Hello. I currently have RH7.0 with apache-1.3.14-3, apache-manual-1.3.14-3 and apache-devel-1.3.14-3 installed. I've seen references to apachectl in a number of postings on this group however I can't find he apachectl script in my distributions. Can someone tell me a little more about the apachectl script and if I need it since most of what I've seen regarding the apachectl script can be done with the standard: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd [start|stop|restart...|etc]. There is the graceful option to apachectl which in effect does "kill -16 `cat $PID_FILE`" This allows apache to complete all current requests before restarting. I don't think you need it. It's generated when you build apache (along with a couple other scripts such as apxs). -- Regards, Greg Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: basic question: busy devicess
Hi David, The fuser command will kill processes that have a device locked. Let's say you want to unmount a filesystem called /test on /dev/hda2. You would issue the fuser -ku /test command and all processes on that filesystem are killed. You can then unmount it. You can also issue the fuser -u command and it will list those processes. One thing to note: if you are in /test or one of its subdirs you will not be able to unmount it. mike David Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED]@redhat.com on 11/24/2000 02:37:32 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: basic question: busy devicess In the process of testing mounting and umounting. I ended up with a partition, which is busy. At least the system thinks it is busy. This leads to two questions. How do you find out what is using a device? Second how do you force a device to umount (or become free)? david ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
** Reply to message from Rick Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:52:26 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result. The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs. Silly question: are all the hubs equal? Are they single speed? If so, are they the same speed? Some single speed, some dual? The problems sound as if the NICs and some of the hubs are operating at different speeds, while the NICs and the working hub are operating at the same speed. I have 10 and 100 NICS in the network. So I have throttled all of the NICs down to 10 (ifconfig eth0 txqueuelen 10) and confirmed it via ifconfig. HOWEVER, the hub that works is ONLY a 10 speed. The ones that don't work claim to be able to adjust speeds to prevailing bitrate. But perhaps they are not. If this is the case, then you may be right. Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (was: xfs problems) Now: partitioning question
Is this what you needed? Eric Cifreo wrote: Send the output of "df -k" Filesystem 1k-blocksUsed Available Use% Mounted 0n /dev/hda 1492311 1391559 23642 98% / and the printout of partitions from "fdisk /dev/hda" back. Device Boot Start End Blocks ID System /dev/hda1 * 1261 20964516 FAT 16 /dev/hda2262 1022 61127325 Extended /dev/hda5262522 20964516 FAT16 /dev/hda6523714 1542208+ 83 Linux /dev/hda7715906 1542208+ 83 Linux /dev/hda8907 1008 819283+ 82 Linux swap ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
First, let me answer the question, "Why 8.0?" Simple - RedHat has a
tradition of not breaking binary compatability between minor releases
(ie 6.1 to 6.2). We now have glibc 2.2 released and a part of RH 7.0.
However, gcc 3.0 is not done yet, and will likely break binary compatability
with the current gcc 2.96 (which is really a cleaned up CVS snapshot).
That being said, here's a few of the things I'd be interested in seeing as
a part of a new RedHat release based around glibc2.2/gcc3.0/kernel2.4.
Base Stuff:
- Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area)
- Glibc 2.2
- Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3)
- XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is)
System Operations:
- 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc.
- Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to
be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS ext3 if available.
- devfs (/dev in its current form needs to be taken out back and shot)
- user-space USB daemon (to load and unload USB device modules as they are
plugged unplugged)
- support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the
lack of this in RH 7.0)
Desktop Environments:
- Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases)
- Add Nautilus
- Add Evolution
- KDE 2.0
- Non-GNOME/KDE setups:
- WindowMaker
- BlackBox
- AfterStep
- Enlightenment
- fvwm2
- twm
- olvwm
- mwm (from the lesstif packages)
Network Services:
- Mail
- MTA: Postfix
- SSL/TLS patches
- PCRE support
- LDAP support
- It's SO much better work with then sendmail..
- IMAP: UW IMAP-2000
- SSL/TLS activated
- POP3: choice
- UW POP3 (from IMAP-2000) with SSL/TLS
- Cucipop
- GNU-pop3d
- Webmail
- TWIG
- Web:
- Server: choice
- Apache 1.3.14
- mod_perl
- PHP4
- WebDAV
- mod_ssl
- Some sort of Servlet/JSP engine (Tomcat? Resin?)
- Roxen
- with crypto
- PHP4 as a pike module w/Roxen ZTS support
- Browsers
- Netscape 4.7x
- Netscape 6.x
- links w/SSL
- lynx w/SSL
- Downloaders
- Downloader for X
- the GNOME panel applet to match
- wget
- curl
- DNS:
- BIND 9
- News:
- INN
- Diablo
- Printing:
- CUPS (beats the heck out of LPRng!)
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Re: fetchmail segfaults
Statux wrote: And for either more future references.. if you ever need to reach any server that communicates via plain text, just use telnet :) back in my day, we talked to servers with telnet all the time :P On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Gustav Schaffter wrote: Bret, For future references, if ever you need to reach a POP3 server with other means than fetchmail, you may use: https://www.mail2web.com/sindex.html Regards Gustav Bret Hughes wrote: Fetchmail puked on a letter that I assume had too many email tos in the header. Should I worry about this and send it in as a bug? I spent over an hour trying to find a pop client that I could configure taht would actually delete ^#$!@^% messages from the server at my isp. Here is the output from fetchmail -va snip Thanks for the tips. I am a little nervous about giving my password to the MAIL2WEB guys without knowing a little more about them, even if it is a different password than anything on my local network. It looks like a neat service though. As for the telnet stuff I guess I would need to learn to speak pop before I try that huh? I like the idea of knowing what goes on beneath the covers but not sure I have the time to research it. Is there any consice documentation out there on pop commands that can be issued via a telnet seesion or is the rfc the best place to look? Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: (was: xfs problems)
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Larry Grover wrote: To find out where your missing HD space is, run "fdisk", or better "cfdisk". It will show you how your HD is partitioned. You should be able to figure out if you've got a patition that isn't mounted, or if you have free space which you forgot to partition, etc. When you run fdisk/cfdisk be careful not to print the partition table (unless you're sure you want to make changes). I think you mean write, not print. Print just displays the partation table with fdisk. Write will write the changes to the hard drive in both cfdisk and fdisk. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
OK, first things first. txqueuelen sets the size of the transmit queue, not the speed of the interface. Hardcoding the speed of the interface is a bit tricky. If you are using modules for the NIC drivers, some drivers take an option which sets speed of the interface. Is there a speed status light on the NICs? If so, what does that say? It still sounds like a speed mismatch; have you tried rebooting or restarting networking after connecting to the dual-speed hubs? That would force negotiation. - rick warner On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: ** Reply to message from Rick Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:52:26 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result. The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs. Silly question: are all the hubs equal? Are they single speed? If so, are they the same speed? Some single speed, some dual? The problems sound as if the NICs and some of the hubs are operating at different speeds, while the NICs and the working hub are operating at the same speed. I have 10 and 100 NICS in the network. So I have throttled all of the NICs down to 10 (ifconfig eth0 txqueuelen 10) and confirmed it via ifconfig. HOWEVER, the hub that works is ONLY a 10 speed. The ones that don't work claim to be able to adjust speeds to prevailing bitrate. But perhaps they are not. If this is the case, then you may be right. Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Something you have not mentioned yet...brand and type of hub, and types of cards being used. Also, if the cards are 10/100, have they been configured to not autodetect? On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: ** Reply to message from Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 24 Nov 2000 03:56:57 -0600 (CST) Yes, Vidiot's theory makes sense. However, there is a slim possibility that some switches on the hub are set wrong? Perhaps the 'cascade' button or something similar to that effect is set wrong on the hub itself. Bear in mind, a crossover cable IIRC is necessary between two hubs, and the 'cascade' button has to be in a particular state for that sort of connection. I'm babbling, so I'll just say this: play around with the switches (if any present) on the hub. g L.G. That would only affect one of the three boxes, not all of them. The original poster made it sound like he ran ping tests from all three boxes and it didn't work. But, it is possible that he ran ping tests from only one boxes to the others, in which the switch could indeed be set wrong. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I pinged from all 3 boxes with the same result. The salient fact is that it works with one hub perfectly and not TWO others (I just tried another brand of hub this morning) with the same settings. And none of the cables are attached to the uplink port of the hubs. Strange. Must be something internal to the hubs. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Unsubscribe to mail list
aah, but you will feel so accomplished when you do finally get off! (if you haven't already) On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Bob Chaput wrote: I finally found the "Edit Options" Now I get the message that my Password is incorrect. I have asked to have it sent to me. What a pain in the ass to get off the list. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
terminal/charset problem
Hi all, For some reason, my terminal (aterm, rxvt, xterm) and console do not show high ascii characters anymore, for example all the hyphens in my man pages are shown as AD (in reverse video) and in mutt the characters are shown as ? or \ddd (where d is a digit). However, it is okay in vim, e.g. I can use digraphs to type è (accented e) and I can still see it fine in vim. Does anyone know which setting/component that has something to do with this problem? termcap? glibc? curses? charset? terminfo? The hyphen in man pages problem can be fixed by forcing LESSCHARSET=latin1, but I think the problem is more general. I must have changed something but I don't remember what, probably a package that I upgraded. I have these set: COLORFGBG=default;default COLORTERM=rxvt-xpm TERM=xterm but I don't set LANG, LC_* or any other locale stuff. Using RH 6.0 as base, and upgraded many rpms since. Thanks in advance, Ronny ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: basic question: busy devicess
I found that I couldn't unmount certain filesystems/devices because I had them NFS exported...temporarily shutting off nfs, I was able to unmount the filesystem with no problem, and could remount it when I needed it. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, David Brett wrote: In the process of testing mounting and umounting. I ended up with a partition, which is busy. At least the system thinks it is busy. This leads to two questions. How do you find out what is using a device? Second how do you force a device to umount (or become free)? david ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: writing to dos partitions
The error about "preserving permissions" is (I think) related to the lack of file permissions in the msdos/fat/vfat filesystem. I believe you can fix this by setting the "uid=" and "gid=" mount options. I mount my windows partition (fat16) with uid and gid set to my user and group numbers -- and I don't get the error message about "preserving permissions". -- Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch Med On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:06:37 -0500 (EST), David Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Larry I can now access the directory. What is interesting is the first time I write a file to the dos partition, I get the following error: cp: preserving permissions for /dos/Data/dead.letter: Operation not permitted It does work, I will have to read the man pages again on mount thanks again Larry david On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Larry Grover wrote: You probably want to add the "umask" option to your "mount" command. I mount my win partition with umask=0. The umask option is described in the manpage for mount. -- Larry Grover, PhD Assoc Prof of Physiology Marshall Univ Sch Med On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 11:36:15 -0500 (EST), David Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble writing to my win95 (fat32) partition. I have tried mounting the dos partition with mount -o uid=123,gid=123 /dev/hd?? /mnt/dospartition The error message I get when trying to copy to the dos partition is cp: cannot create regular file `/dos/Data/dead.letter': Permission denied ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
are there any production ready journaling fs out there?
What kind of luck have people had using some of the new journaling filesystems out there? Is any production ready? We have a need for something more tolerant of power failures than ext2 and IIRC the journaling will help this. Am I way off base here? In a related question how can I modify the init scripts to perform a noninteractive (fix all ) fsck. In our testing I have only had a fs get hosed once due to this and as the machines are remote with no user interface something major will have to be done anyway so if I can fix it most of the time automatically, that is beter than none. Any Ideas greatfully accepted. UPS are NOT an option currently. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. BTW, on reading this I see it could be taken wrong. I meant *I* had a silly question, not that *yours* is silly. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. BTW, on reading this I see it could be taken wrong. I meant *I* had a silly question, not that *yours* is silly. No offense taken and your excellent advice sent me scurrying for the man pages. -- Regards, Greg Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
OK, first things first. txqueuelen sets the size of the transmit queue, not the speed of the interface. Hardcoding the speed of the interface is a bit tricky. If you are using modules for the NIC drivers, some drivers take an option which sets speed of the interface. Is there a speed status light on the NICs? If so, what does that say? It still sounds like a speed mismatch; have you tried rebooting or restarting networking after connecting to the dual-speed hubs? That would force negotiation. - rick warner I've never seen a 10/100 hub not negotiate speed when the cable is connected. The hub should hve a link light and if it is a 10/100 hub, a speed indicator for the port. Of course, it may be a real cheapy and not have the indicators. If it has the lights, check them. The lights were a hugh plus at a show I was recently at. During all of the connecting of 10 and 100 equipment to the swtiches and hubs, we lost a hub, i.e., a port died and its lights went out for a port. We had to replace it and did so with 10/100 switches (which are preferred over hubs). Brought the hib back and it was determined that not only was the one port dead, the other ports were acting weird as well. So, if you have 10/100 NICs and a 10 only hub, the NICs should connect to the hub at 10baseT. I just don't trust the hub. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Hason Costomiris wrote: Base Stuff: - Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area) - Glibc 2.2 - Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3) - XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is) This will probably happen at some time, though by the time gcc 3.0 is released, we're probably at glibc 2.2.something and XFree86 4.0.2 or 4.1. - 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc. We already have symlinks so /etc/init.d and all work. /etc/rc.d will stay for compatibility reasons. - Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS ext3 if available. ReiserFS isn't ready for prime time yet. Generally, while it runs, it's ok, but if something messes up beyond what can be fixed by a simple journal replay, you're probably in trouble. - devfs (/dev in its current form needs to be taken out back and shot) Our kernel people have some problems with devfs internals, so both alternatives seem to be far from perfect. - user-space USB daemon (to load and unload USB device modules as they are plugged unplugged) Yes. - support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the lack of this in RH 7.0) ??? 7.0 supports this... - Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases) Which enhancements, as opposed to the packages from 7.0? The code is almost identical. - Add Nautilus - Add Evolution When they're ready. - KDE 2.0 Done, see rawhide or http://www.linux-easy.com/rh-updates/ - Non-GNOME/KDE setups: - WindowMaker It's there... - BlackBox Powertools. - AfterStep Powertools. - Enlightenment - fvwm2 - twm They're there. - olvwm - mwm (from the lesstif packages) OpenLook and Motif are dead. - MTA: Postfix Powertools. - SSL/TLS patches Powertools rawhide. - IMAP: UW IMAP-2000 - SSL/TLS activated Errata. - Apache 1.3.14 - mod_perl - PHP4 - WebDAV - mod_ssl They're there... - Some sort of Servlet/JSP engine (Tomcat? Resin?) If you can supply us with a free JDK, no problem. ;) - Netscape 6.x Why would you want Netscape's fork rather than the real Mozilla? Most of mozilla's CVS snapshots work better (for me) than the Netscape 6.0 release... - links w/SSL - lynx w/SSL Rawhide. - Downloaders - Downloader for X - the GNOME panel applet to match What does it add that no other package we're shipping can do? - wget We have that - curl Powertools - DNS: - BIND 9 Rawhide - INN We have that - Diablo Powertools - CUPS (beats the heck out of LPRng!) Powertools. If you'd like to see LPRng and CUPS exchanged (CUPS in the distribution and LPRng in Powertools), show us a couple of good reasons... LLaP bero ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
What happened to the mail status when i login?
Hi, Up until redhat 6.2 you would login and it would say you have mail or new mail. I've compared the login scripts and I cant find the difference. Can someone please point me in the right direction to get that message to appear when i login to my machine with redhat 7. Thanks Lucio ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: apachectl
Thanks Greg. However, my problem is that I don't have the apachectl script. Do you know when it was added to the release RPMS or for that matter was it in the previous releases or the apache rpms and has it been removed from the release I had mentioned? Lou - Original Message - From: "Greg Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: Re: apachectl Lou Spironello wrote: Hello. I currently have RH7.0 with apache-1.3.14-3, apache-manual-1.3.14-3 and apache-devel-1.3.14-3 installed. I've seen references to apachectl in a number of postings on this group however I can't find he apachectl script in my distributions. Can someone tell me a little more about the apachectl script and if I need it since most of what I've seen regarding the apachectl script can be done with the standard: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd [start|stop|restart...|etc]. There is the graceful option to apachectl which in effect does "kill -16 `cat $PID_FILE`" This allows apache to complete all current requests before restarting. I don't think you need it. It's generated when you build apache (along with a couple other scripts such as apxs). -- Regards, Greg Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: apachectl
Lou Spironello wrote: Thanks Greg. However, my problem is that I don't have the apachectl script. Do you know when it was added to the release RPMS or for that matter was it in the previous releases or the apache rpms and has it been removed from the release I had mentioned? Seeing as it's created dynamically when you build the sources it won't likely be in the RPM's at all. -- Regards, Greg Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
put ppp config back into linuxconf - Original Message - From: "Bernhard Rosenkraenzer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0... On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Hason Costomiris wrote: Base Stuff: - Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area) - Glibc 2.2 - Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3) - XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is) This will probably happen at some time, though by the time gcc 3.0 is released, we're probably at glibc 2.2.something and XFree86 4.0.2 or 4.1. - 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc. We already have symlinks so /etc/init.d and all work. /etc/rc.d will stay for compatibility reasons. - Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS ext3 if available. ReiserFS isn't ready for prime time yet. Generally, while it runs, it's ok, but if something messes up beyond what can be fixed by a simple journal replay, you're probably in trouble. - devfs (/dev in its current form needs to be taken out back and shot) Our kernel people have some problems with devfs internals, so both alternatives seem to be far from perfect. - user-space USB daemon (to load and unload USB device modules as they are plugged unplugged) Yes. - support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the lack of this in RH 7.0) ??? 7.0 supports this... - Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases) Which enhancements, as opposed to the packages from 7.0? The code is almost identical. - Add Nautilus - Add Evolution When they're ready. - KDE 2.0 Done, see rawhide or http://www.linux-easy.com/rh-updates/ - Non-GNOME/KDE setups: - WindowMaker It's there... - BlackBox Powertools. - AfterStep Powertools. - Enlightenment - fvwm2 - twm They're there. - olvwm - mwm (from the lesstif packages) OpenLook and Motif are dead. - MTA: Postfix Powertools. - SSL/TLS patches Powertools rawhide. - IMAP: UW IMAP-2000 - SSL/TLS activated Errata. - Apache 1.3.14 - mod_perl - PHP4 - WebDAV - mod_ssl They're there... - Some sort of Servlet/JSP engine (Tomcat? Resin?) If you can supply us with a free JDK, no problem. ;) - Netscape 6.x Why would you want Netscape's fork rather than the real Mozilla? Most of mozilla's CVS snapshots work better (for me) than the Netscape 6.0 release... - links w/SSL - lynx w/SSL Rawhide. - Downloaders - Downloader for X - the GNOME panel applet to match What does it add that no other package we're shipping can do? - wget We have that - curl Powertools - DNS: - BIND 9 Rawhide - INN We have that - Diablo Powertools - CUPS (beats the heck out of LPRng!) Powertools. If you'd like to see LPRng and CUPS exchanged (CUPS in the distribution and LPRng in Powertools), show us a couple of good reasons... LLaP bero ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. BTW, on reading this I see it could be taken wrong. I meant *I* had a silly question, not that *yours* is silly. Cheers, Damn! And I had my flames all set! ;-} I looked at the man page, and -i seemed the only relevent option. media mas a symlink to another directroy. .starteam was a file. [root@double treaves]# chattr -i media chattr: No such device while reading flags on media [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# chattr -i .statream chattr: No such file or directory while stating .statream [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# cp .bashrc .starteam cp: overwrite `.starteam'? y cp: cannot create regular file `.starteam': Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: are there any production ready journaling fs out there?
I was using Reiserfs on some machines at my last job; I left before they had a chance to go into production but it seemed to work well. One caveat to bear in mind is that the journal portion of Reiserfs, at least as of a few months ago, did not have its format fully stabilized yet. Upshot of that is that future versions of Reiserfs may need you to back up your data before an upgrade, reformat and restore afterward in order to be compatible with any changes that they make to the journal format. Not pretty with large volumes. But it seems to work for now. Didn't do any of my own speed trials, didn't have to live with it for very long, didn't try it on anything crazy like software RAID volumes (I understand that's still a no-no regardless of whose journaling fs you use), but I can say for certain that it can recover from a power outage. First thing we did on our test boxes was yank the power a few times, and sure enough, the reiserfs portions of the filesystem came back on in nothing flat. If you want to toy with this, you might want to buy or download a copy of S.u.S.E., they have resierfs as an option for all but the root partition, and strapping on a root with reiserfs shouldn't be _too_ hard. rpmfind.net has been using ext3 for several months now, and they seem to like it; I haven't tried it yet myself but given the amount of traffic that site sees, it must be at least decent. HTH, -m Bret Hughes wrote: What kind of luck have people had using some of the new journaling filesystems out there? Is any production ready? We have a need for something more tolerant of power failures than ext2 and IIRC the journaling will help this. Am I way off base here? In a related question how can I modify the init scripts to perform a noninteractive (fix all ) fsck. In our testing I have only had a fs get hosed once due to this and as the machines are remote with no user interface something major will have to be done anyway so if I can fix it most of the time automatically, that is beter than none. Any Ideas greatfully accepted. UPS are NOT an option currently. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
What about chattr -l filename? Timothy Reaves wrote: Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. BTW, on reading this I see it could be taken wrong. I meant *I* had a silly question, not that *yours* is silly. Cheers, Damn! And I had my flames all set! ;-} I looked at the man page, and -i seemed the only relevent option. media mas a symlink to another directroy. .starteam was a file. [root@double treaves]# chattr -i media chattr: No such device while reading flags on media [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# chattr -i .statream chattr: No such file or directory while stating .statream [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# cp .bashrc .starteam cp: overwrite `.starteam'? y cp: cannot create regular file `.starteam': Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
Correction: make that "lsattr filename" What does that give back? Michael R. Jinks wrote: What about chattr -l filename? Timothy Reaves wrote: Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 11:21:23AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote: On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Greg Martin wrote: Silly question--use 'chattr' to see if extended permissions have been hosed. BTW, on reading this I see it could be taken wrong. I meant *I* had a silly question, not that *yours* is silly. Cheers, Damn! And I had my flames all set! ;-} I looked at the man page, and -i seemed the only relevent option. media mas a symlink to another directroy. .starteam was a file. [root@double treaves]# chattr -i media chattr: No such device while reading flags on media [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# chattr -i .statream chattr: No such file or directory while stating .statream [root@double treaves]# [root@double treaves]# cp .bashrc .starteam cp: overwrite `.starteam'? y cp: cannot create regular file `.starteam': Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:15:27PM +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: : On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote: : : Base Stuff: : - Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area) : - Glibc 2.2 : - Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3) : - XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is) : : This will probably happen at some time, though by the time gcc 3.0 is : released, we're probably at glibc 2.2.something and XFree86 4.0.2 or 4.1. The gcc guys are still targetting the end of the year for a 3.0 release.. At least that's what it says on http://egcs.cygnus.com/ : - 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc. : : We already have symlinks so /etc/init.d and all work. : /etc/rc.d will stay for compatibility reasons. Yes, but to be FHS compliant, wouldn't things have to be the other way around? That is, the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/rcN.d directories should be the ones that are the symlinks, correct? : - Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to :be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS ext3 if available. : : ReiserFS isn't ready for prime time yet. : Generally, while it runs, it's ok, but if something messes up beyond what : can be fixed by a simple journal replay, you're probably in trouble. I've had good luck with it, and apparently so has sourceforge - half of their 850G on ftp.sourceforge.net is reiserfs... The Mozilla people are using reiserfs on their anon-cvs server. Maybe you've had some sort of bad experience that others haven't? : - support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the :lack of this in RH 7.0) : : ??? 7.0 supports this... I've seen a number of complaints about this one. I don't have a USB keyboard to test it with. : - Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases) : : Which enhancements, as opposed to the packages from 7.0? The code is : almost identical. Their default setup is more usable, IMHO. Also, I haven't been able to replicate the menu that the Helix distribution provides on the top of the screen.. I can't explain why, but their distribution (at least on my machine) seems more responsive than the stock RH 7.0 GNOME packages. : - KDE 2.0 : : Done, see rawhide or http://www.linux-easy.com/rh-updates/ rawhide != stable release. I'm not saying the work's not done, I'm just making a list of stuff I'd like to see in the next stable release. Some of the stuff IS done already. : - Non-GNOME/KDE setups: : - WindowMaker : : It's there... This is one of the "already done". : - MTA: Postfix : Powertools. : - SSL/TLS patches : Powertools rawhide. This should not be in powertools, but rather in the main distribution. It's a lot more useful than what's in the main dist (sendmail). : - IMAP: UW IMAP-2000 : - SSL/TLS activated : : Errata. : : - Apache 1.3.14 : - mod_perl : - PHP4 : - WebDAV : - mod_ssl : : They're there... : : - Some sort of Servlet/JSP engine (Tomcat? Resin?) : : If you can supply us with a free JDK, no problem. ;) Just because you guys don't ship it doesn't mean it doesn't exist... Sun has RPMs of JDK 1.3.0, and the blackdown.org people have packages that would be trivial do turn into RPMs. Ok, put the servlets/jsps in powertools, and make them depend on the Sun j2sdk rpm. I noticed you removed the info I put up about roxen... : - Netscape 6.x : : Why would you want Netscape's fork rather than the real Mozilla? : Most of mozilla's CVS snapshots work better (for me) than the Netscape 6.0 : release... No particular reason.. If the newer Mozilla builds work better, than that's fine w/me.. It MUST have SSL support though - is PSM being kept up to date? : - links w/SSL : - lynx w/SSL : : Rawhide. Neither of the packages that are in Rawhide have SSL. At least the files that are on the rpmfind.net mirror of rawhide don't. Do the files on rawhide.redhat.com have SSL support? : : - Downloaders : - Downloader for X : - the GNOME panel applet to match : : What does it add that no other package we're shipping can do? Drag a link from netscape to the applet, and it grabs the file for you. It's very nice when you've got 10 or 15 things to grab, and don't want to have little netscape windows all over the place. : - CUPS (beats the heck out of LPRng!) : : Powertools. : If you'd like to see LPRng and CUPS exchanged (CUPS in the distribution : and LPRng in Powertools), show us a couple of good reasons... How about 3? :) 1) Better printer support, through cups-drivers. I think that's really all the reason you should need, by itself. You can make use of all of those features your printer has, but you never use, since you're
re: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
** Original Subject: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0... ** Original Sender: Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:10:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ** Original Message follows... On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:15:27PM +0100, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: : On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jason Costomiris wrote: : : Base Stuff: : - Linux kernel 2.4 (probably somewhere in the 2.4.5 area) : - Glibc 2.2 : - Gcc 3.0 (with libstdc++-3) : - XFree86 4.0.1d (or whatever the latest release from the XFree86 guys is) : : This will probably happen at some time, though by the time gcc 3.0 is : released, we're probably at glibc 2.2.something and XFree86 4.0.2 or 4.1. The gcc guys are still targetting the end of the year for a 3.0 release.. At least that's what it says on http://egcs.cygnus.com/ : - 100% FHS compliance - get rid of /etc/rc.d, and use /etc/init.d, etc. : : We already have symlinks so /etc/init.d and all work. : /etc/rc.d will stay for compatibility reasons. Yes, but to be FHS compliant, wouldn't things have to be the other way around? That is, the /etc/rc.d and /etc/rc.d/rcN.d directories should be the ones that are the symlinks, correct? : - Offer ReiserFS during installation as a possible fstype (it is supposed to :be included in kernel 2.4.1), possibly also XFS ext3 if available. : : ReiserFS isn't ready for prime time yet. : Generally, while it runs, it's ok, but if something messes up beyond what : can be fixed by a simple journal replay, you're probably in trouble. I've had good luck with it, and apparently so has sourceforge - half of their 850G on ftp.sourceforge.net is reiserfs... The Mozilla people are using reiserfs on their anon-cvs server. Maybe you've had some sort of bad experience that others haven't? : - support for USB keyboards during installation (many complained about the :lack of this in RH 7.0) : : ??? 7.0 supports this... I've seen a number of complaints about this one. I don't have a USB keyboard to test it with. : - Helix GNOME (their enhancements make it better than the stock RH releases) : : Which enhancements, as opposed to the packages from 7.0? The code is : almost identical. Their default setup is more usable, IMHO. Also, I haven't been able to replicate the menu that the Helix distribution provides on the top of the screen.. I can't explain why, but their distribution (at least on my machine) seems more responsive than the stock RH 7.0 GNOME packages. : - KDE 2.0 : : Done, see rawhide or http://www.linux-easy.com/rh-updates/ rawhide != stable release. I'm not saying the work's not done, I'm just making a list of stuff I'd like to see in the next stable release. Some of the stuff IS done already. : - Non-GNOME/KDE setups: : - WindowMaker : : It's there... This is one of the "already done". : - MTA: Postfix : Powertools. : - SSL/TLS patches : Powertools rawhide. This should not be in powertools, but rather in the main distribution. It's a lot more useful than what's in the main dist (sendmail). We still have to go through RH 7.1 and RH 7.2 before getting to RH 8.0 Anyways I want the RH with a good 4.0 kernel. Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 10:53:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: We still have to go through RH 7.1 and RH 7.2 before getting to RH 8.0
Where is it written that this must be the case?
: Anyways I want the RH with a good 4.0 kernel.
Um, you'll be in for a LONG wait then.
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Re: OT: xDSL Modem
On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 10:26:52AM +0100, Dirk Sachse wrote: Hal Burgiss wrote: Yes, I even log statistics. But not all have these features. What modem? I havent looked exactly, but it must be either a Siemens NTBBA 40 157 768-100 , Siemens NTBBA 40 155 752-100 or Siemens 40 155 749-100 . Do you know how I could get the DSL Modems IP so I can telnet it ? I guess you've looked at the owner's manual. If not available, check the mfg's website. I am not familiar at all with that one, sorry. If it supports SNMP, I believe you can dig this out with snmpwalk. -- Hal B [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: How to delete undeleteable file?
Have you run fsck.ext2 on the partitions? If not, run it first.. then if the stuff remains, use debugfs (from the package of the same name.. _I think_, man debugfs for details) to mark the inodes as deleted (link count 0, dtime non-zero), quit, then fsck the partition again. See if that helps. If not even that works, then your only option would be possibly to reformat :/ Editing the filesystem directly should work tho. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Timothy Reaves wrote: Statux wrote: After some hard drive corruption (due to a crash) I have several files that look like: This file is marked as a block special file which only root can remove. You can try doing 'chmod 0664 media' (with the leading 0) and see what happens... but if a crash changed a bunch of files over to block special.. yer simplest solution is to toss em (as root) and forget about it ;) Why did they become block special files? shrug note the major and minor numbers tho.. and the user:group settings. Looks like data corruption. Just toss em ;) Again, only root can manipulate files like this :) no good: [root@double treaves]# whoami root [root@double treaves]# chmod 0664 media chmod: media: Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# chmod 0664 .starteam chmod: .starteam: Operation not permitted [root@double treaves]# ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: AppleTalk
Hi Stew, Worked like a charm, now I just have to get printing services up and running. Thanks, Rob Yale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stew Benedict Sent: November 24, 2000 8:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AppleTalk Here's an article I wrote up which may help: http://redesign.earthweb.com/dlink.resource-jhtml.72.1083.|reposit ory||networking|content|article|2000|10|07 |NTBenedictNetatalk|NTBenedictNetatalk~xml.0.jhtml?cda=true Sorry about the long link ;^) Stew Benedict On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Rob Yale wrote: Hello, I'm building a server at work, using Apache and Samba, and I have to deal with a number of platforms. I've got Samba under control, but it's now time to deal with AppleTalk. I looked at the configuration of my RedHat 7.0 Kernel, and it looks like AppleTalk can be loaded as a module, rather than having to be re-compiled. Has anyone out there done this, I'd like to know how to invoke the module (if in fact I can use one), and where to put it's script. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
FHS questions
Hi. I have a few FHS questions. RH7 seems to follow FHS 2.1 to some extent, but in other aspects it doesn't seem to make sense. Where does the /usr/etc directory come from? That doesn't seem to be documented, but openssh gets installed there. Where is the proper directory for chroot'd packages? What is the purpose of /var/lib/ now? It seems like there is data being stored there now that is no longer 'variable'.. Is the motiviation behind moving many of the common things from /home to /var being for automounting of home directories? thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: FHS questions
The GNU implementations are different than the BSD implementations.. BSD is sort of traditional in its layout and GNU is more like "eh, just put it someplace and if someone asks about it we'll make up some story as to why it is where it is." On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, fred pasteck wrote: Hi. I have a few FHS questions. RH7 seems to follow FHS 2.1 to some extent, but in other aspects it doesn't seem to make sense. Where does the /usr/etc directory come from? That doesn't seem to be documented, but openssh gets installed there. Where is the proper directory for chroot'd packages? What is the purpose of /var/lib/ now? It seems like there is data being stored there now that is no longer 'variable'.. Is the motiviation behind moving many of the common things from /home to /var being for automounting of home directories? thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Hi, I've read the thread so far, and here is what I think: - At least one of your NICs is operating at 100baseT, but not all, correct? - the new two hubs which are 10/100baseT-capable are trying to auto-sense the band rate and are getting confused between the different speed-based NICs. Correct? If so, what to do? Hard-coding the 100baseT NIC to 10baseT could prove difficult...is there any switch on the new hubs to manually select 10baseT? Best Regards, L.G. -- Generated Signature -- Carson's Observation on Footwear: If the shoe fits, buy the other one too. -- End Sig -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: are there any production ready journaling fs out there?
Hi, I've been using sgi's xfs for a while now and have had no problems whatsoever. I have it installed on my system at home, a friends box running oracle, and a system at school that gets beat a bit. Its been terrific for power outages. ;) I have yet to try out reiser, but I hear its pretty good. With xfs, there is no patching required, you just pull down the source tree via cvs and recompile. Depending on the distribution you use, you might need to do some upgrading. XFS is based off the 2.4 kernel and there are no ports to the 2.2.x series. I think resiser works with both kernels. I know IBM's jfs is moving along quite well also. And if you use ext3, you can easily convert an existing ext2 partition. With xfs and resiser, you would need to do a backup, recreate the partition, and dump the data back. Just a few thoughts... Jason What kind of luck have people had using some of the new journaling filesystems out there? Is any production ready? We have a need for something more tolerant of power failures than ext2 and IIRC the journaling will help this. Am I way off base here? In a related question how can I modify the init scripts to perform a noninteractive (fix all ) fsck. In our testing I have only had a fs get hosed once due to this and as the machines are remote with no user interface something major will have to be done anyway so if I can fix it most of the time automatically, that is beter than none. Any Ideas greatfully accepted. UPS are NOT an option currently. Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Logitech TrackMan Marble question
Does anyone know of a way to change the resolution of the Logitech Trackman Marble rodent? It current moves the cursor too far for such little ball movement. I'd like to be able to change the resolution so that it takes more ball motion to move the cursor. Thanks in advance for any pointers. MB -- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bart: Hey, why is it destroying other toys? Lisa: They must have programmed it to eliminate the competition. Bart: You mean like Microsoft? Lisa: Exactly. [The Simpsons - 12/18/99] Visit - URL:http://www.vidiot.com/ (Your link to Star Trek and UPN) ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: web browser
Has anyone tried downloading Netscape 6 for Linux. I did,and it took 10 hrs for me to complete the installation through a dialup line. But at the end it doesn't seem to work. There is a file "netscape" in /usr/local/netscape directory. This is the install directory I specified. If I double click this file, the harddisk is accessed fro a few seconds, and nothing happens. I uninstalled the old Netscape 4.72 from RPM manager, but still no effect. Any suggestions ... -Original Message- From: Thomas Ribbrock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 7:29 PM To: Shanmuga Raj Subject: Re: web browser On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 09:50:04AM +, kevin wrote: [...] The KDE explorer is fine if I'm doing lookups on Linux documentation and stuff, but not complete enough for browsing proper. [...] Apparently, you haven't tried KDE 2.0's browser "konqueror" yet - Javascript support (not sure whether that's a good thing...), Netscape plugin support, Java support (haven't tried it yet, though), basically all you need. It can even import your Netscape bookmarks. At the moment I'm using it on Solaris 2.6/Sparc instead of Netscape (but without running KDE), and so far it seems stable and is reasonably fast. There are definitely a few bugs left, but after what I'm used to from Netscape, there seems to be hope yet. In addition, it has a few nice features Netscape *doesn't* have, like domain specific cookie settings or domain specific Java/Javascript settings. As a side point, Linux related sites always tend to be more cross platform compatible. You know full well that as soon as you see .asp in a URL then you have to revert to IE (ignorant MS brainwashed idiots). Can't quite confirm that. The only pages I ever got stuck on with Netscape were those that either explicitly asked for IE (fortunately only a few - and those that do usually don't have any content worthwhile watching anyway) or those requiring a plugin not available for Netscape/Solaris or Netscape/Linux (haven't seen too many of those, either). ".asp" as such usually doesn't cause a problem - what it does cause is a flood of cookies (blessed be Junkbuster...)... My EUR0.02, Thomas -- "Look, Ma, no obsolete quotes and plain text only!" Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.bigfoot.com/~kaytan | ICQ#: 15839919 "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!" ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: Re: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
** Original Subject: Re: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0... ** Original Sender: Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:58:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ** Original Message follows... On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 10:53:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : We still have to go through RH 7.1 and RH 7.2 before getting to RH 8.0 Where is it written that this must be the case? It seems the Red Hat does things : Anyways I want the RH with a good 4.0 kernel. Um, you'll be in for a LONG wait then. Um I meant 2.4 kernel ! Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0...
The wish list I got is to make the automount or autofs much simple and stable. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Original Subject: Re: Re: On to more productive things.. Wishlist for RH 8.0... ** Original Sender: Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Original Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:58:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ** Original Message follows... On Fri, Nov 24, 2000 at 10:53:02PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : We still have to go through RH 7.1 and RH 7.2 before getting to RH 8.0 Where is it written that this must be the case? It seems the Red Hat does things : Anyways I want the RH with a good 4.0 kernel. Um, you'll be in for a LONG wait then. Um I meant 2.4 kernel ! Download NeoPlanet at http://www.neoplanet.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list begin:vcard n:Chan;Hendrick tel;fax:408-735-9653 tel;work:408-530-6453 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://maxim-ic.com org:Maxim Integrated Products;CAD adr:;;120 San Gabriel Drive ;Sunnyvale;CA;94086;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] fn:Hendrick Chan end:vcard
SMTP mail realy problem. Please help.
Hi list. I need some help. I have a network of Linux boxen and one Macintosh. All the mail comes into a single Linux system and mail is read and sent out from that system on all the other systems using an x-window mail reader and setting DISPLAY to the machine I want to read from. So in all these cases the sending is done from the machine running sendmail. Now we come to the Macintosh. On the Macintosh I am trying to send mail by configuring the remote SMTP machine to the IP address of the machine running sendmail. I do this in the Netscape (or Eudora) preferences panel. However all attempts to send mail give this error: An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Relaying denied Please check the message recipients and try again. Now when sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the machine running sendmail this address will work just fine. What am I missing? There must be some config file that tells sendmail to relay all mail from other IPs on this LAN just as it does for mail from that same machine. What is it? Thanks for the help john -- E-Mail: John N. Alegre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 24-Nov-00 Time: 19:28:28 This message was sent by XFMail -- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: SMTP mail realy problem. Please help.
"jna" == John N Alegre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jna An error occurred while sending mail. jna The mail server responded: jna[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Relaying denied jna Please check the message recipients and try again. jna Now when sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the machine running jna sendmail this address will work just fine. What am I missing? There must be jna some config file that tells sendmail to relay all mail from other IPs on this jna LAN just as it does for mail from that same machine. What is it? http://www.sendmail.org/tips/relaying.html -- Ray Curtis Unix Programmer/Consultant Curtis Consulting mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.clark.net/pub/ray ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
** Reply to message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luke C Gavel) on Fri, 24 Nov 2000 20:42:15 -0400 (AST) Hi, I've read the thread so far, and here is what I think: - At least one of your NICs is operating at 100baseT, but not all, correct? Negative. Both NICs are at 10BaseT. Here is the relevant info: Box 1: RH v6.1 with all updates. Output from Don Becker's tulip-diag utility follows for a Linksys LNE100TX NIC: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, half-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, half-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 50ca. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Negotiation complete'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the 10mpbs (shud read 10mbps, sic :)) which the card has auto-selected. Box 2: RH v6.2 with all updates. Relevant cut from /etc/sysconfig/hwconf follows for a D-Link model DE-528-CT NIC: class: NETWORK bus: PCI detached: 0 device: eth driver: ne2k-pci desc: "Realtek|RTL-8029(AS)" vendorId: 10ec deviceId: 8029 pciType: 1 This card is 10BaseT only. - the new two hubs which are 10/100baseT-capable are trying to auto-sense the band rate and are getting confused between the different speed-based NICs. Perhaps, although the card according to Don's utility seems to be performing up to spec. ' Correct? If so, what to do? Hard-coding the 100baseT NIC to 10baseT could prove difficult...is there any switch on the new hubs to manually select 10baseT? Negative to hub switch. Hub that works is a 3Com HomeConnect 10Mbps 5-Port Hub model 3C19260. Nowstick the following hub which is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Auto-Sensing 5-Port Workgroup Hub model EFAH05W in the circuit (this hub came with two matching Linksys cards as given above) and run the tulip-diag and here is what we get: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, full-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, full-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 20ce. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Ability detect'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the NWay register seems to be in a different state, and probably more importantly the autonegotiation is stuck in "Ability Detect" mode instead of "Negotiation Complete". As I write, the Port 2 indicator light on the Linksys hub is cycling between 10 and 100...apparently the hub cannot autonegotiate with its own matching card. One would be tempted to blame the hub rather than the card since the card works fine with the 3Com hub. Experiment number three with another hub Kingston EtheRx Soho Hub model KNE5TP/H and the same cards gives this output from tulip-diag: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 100mbps-SYM/PCS 100baseTx scrambler, half-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, half-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 128. The NWay status register is 00c6. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Autonegotiation disabled'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the Internal autonegotiation state. This is as it should be because this hub is 10BaseT only and is NOT capable of autoswitching bit rate. More a test of Don's utility (excellent) than anything else. It seems you were on the right track, Luke. The proof of the pudding will be to grab some other 10BaseT and100BaseT cards and try them with the suspect hubs. I bet that if I make them all 10BaseT cards, all of the hubs will work. But I may have to make them all 100BaseT NICs for the Linksys hub to work. Will let you know what I find. thanks for your time everyone, Jack
Re: hub problems
What's the output of ifconfig look like (while we're at it)? :P -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
This one seems to have a big problem. Not only is it flipping on speed, but it has negotiated full duplex. Since a hub cannot do full-dup - rick warner On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: Hub that works is a 3Com HomeConnect 10Mbps 5-Port Hub model 3C19260. Nowstick the following hub which is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Auto-Sensing 5-Port Workgroup Hub model EFAH05W in the circuit (this hub came with two matching Linksys cards as given above) and run the tulip-diag and here is what we get: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, full-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, full-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 20ce. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Ability detect'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the NWay register seems to be in a different state, and probably more importantly the autonegotiation is stuck in "Ability Detect" mode instead of "Negotiation Complete". As I write, the Port 2 indicator light on the Linksys hub is cycling between 10 and 100...apparently the hub cannot autonegotiate with its own matching card. One would be tempted to blame the hub rather than the card since the card works fine with the 3Com hub. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Um.. hubs do full duplex. Cat5 (and the like) cabling uses two wires for 1 connection (one for TX and one for RX). Coax cable is only half. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Rick Warner wrote: This one seems to have a big problem. Not only is it flipping on speed, but it has negotiated full duplex. Since a hub cannot do full-dup - rick warner On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: Hub that works is a 3Com HomeConnect 10Mbps 5-Port Hub model 3C19260. Nowstick the following hub which is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Auto-Sensing 5-Port Workgroup Hub model EFAH05W in the circuit (this hub came with two matching Linksys cards as given above) and run the tulip-diag and here is what we get: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, full-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, full-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 20ce. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Ability detect'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the NWay register seems to be in a different state, and probably more importantly the autonegotiation is stuck in "Ability Detect" mode instead of "Negotiation Complete". As I write, the Port 2 indicator light on the Linksys hub is cycling between 10 and 100...apparently the hub cannot autonegotiate with its own matching card. One would be tempted to blame the hub rather than the card since the card works fine with the 3Com hub. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Better pull out the Ethernet book. Hubs cannot do full duplex. If they tried to transmit and receive simultaneously on the same port (full duplex) a collision would occur and they would have to step back. Switches can do full duplex, hubs are half duplex only. Always have been, always will be. - rick warner On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Statux wrote: Um.. hubs do full duplex. Cat5 (and the like) cabling uses two wires for 1 connection (one for TX and one for RX). Coax cable is only half. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Rick Warner wrote: This one seems to have a big problem. Not only is it flipping on speed, but it has negotiated full duplex. Since a hub cannot do full-dup - rick warner On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: Hub that works is a 3Com HomeConnect 10Mbps 5-Port Hub model 3C19260. Nowstick the following hub which is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Auto-Sensing 5-Port Workgroup Hub model EFAH05W in the circuit (this hub came with two matching Linksys cards as given above) and run the tulip-diag and here is what we get: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, full-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, full-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 20ce. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Ability detect'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the NWay register seems to be in a different state, and probably more importantly the autonegotiation is stuck in "Ability Detect" mode instead of "Negotiation Complete". As I write, the Port 2 indicator light on the Linksys hub is cycling between 10 and 100...apparently the hub cannot autonegotiate with its own matching card. One would be tempted to blame the hub rather than the card since the card works fine with the 3Com hub. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
** Reply to message from Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:47:02 -0500 (EST) What's the output of ifconfig look like (while we're at it)? :P Sorry, should have included that in the last post. Not sure how to flush the stats from ifconfig to start at ground zero (reboot?). They seem to be persistent over network restarts. Here is ifconfig output: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:36:DD:1D inet addr:192.168.0.3 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:610494 errors:2883 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:512841 errors:1064 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2128 collisions:10567 txqueuelen:10 Interrupt:11 Base address:0x9000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:831065 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:831065 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Txqueuelen throttled down to 10 as suggested by the ifconfig man page since the LAN is connected to the internet via a (relatively) slow ppp link. Certainly lots of errors from the suspect hub. Nice loopback, tho :) Start a ping with the bad hub and get nowhere; but switch it hot and the ping comes right up. Looks like a bad hub. jack Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Do you get collisions like that from the other hub? hubs aren't supposed to have any collisions ideally. The hub does sound borked tho. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: ** Reply to message from Statux [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, 25 Nov 2000 00:47:02 -0500 (EST) What's the output of ifconfig look like (while we're at it)? :P Sorry, should have included that in the last post. Not sure how to flush the stats from ifconfig to start at ground zero (reboot?). They seem to be persistent over network restarts. Here is ifconfig output: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:CC:36:DD:1D inet addr:192.168.0.3 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:610494 errors:2883 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:512841 errors:1064 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2128 collisions:10567 txqueuelen:10 Interrupt:11 Base address:0x9000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3924 Metric:1 RX packets:831065 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:831065 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 Txqueuelen throttled down to 10 as suggested by the ifconfig man page since the LAN is connected to the internet via a (relatively) slow ppp link. Certainly lots of errors from the suspect hub. Nice loopback, tho :) Start a ping with the bad hub and get nowhere; but switch it hot and the ping comes right up. Looks like a bad hub. jack Jack Bowling Prince George, BC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Interesting.. my pretty hub never gets any collisions tho ;) I thought the whole idea behind switches was to handle NICs that run at different speeds. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Rick Warner wrote: Better pull out the Ethernet book. Hubs cannot do full duplex. If they tried to transmit and receive simultaneously on the same port (full duplex) a collision would occur and they would have to step back. Switches can do full duplex, hubs are half duplex only. Always have been, always will be. - rick warner On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Statux wrote: Um.. hubs do full duplex. Cat5 (and the like) cabling uses two wires for 1 connection (one for TX and one for RX). Coax cable is only half. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Rick Warner wrote: This one seems to have a big problem. Not only is it flipping on speed, but it has negotiated full duplex. Since a hub cannot do full-dup - rick warner On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Jack Bowling wrote: Hub that works is a 3Com HomeConnect 10Mbps 5-Port Hub model 3C19260. Nowstick the following hub which is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 Auto-Sensing 5-Port Workgroup Hub model EFAH05W in the circuit (this hub came with two matching Linksys cards as given above) and run the tulip-diag and here is what we get: tulip-diag.c:v2.03 7/31/2000 Donald Becker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.scyld.com/diag/index.html Index #1: Found a Lite-On PNIC-II adapter at 0x9000. Port selection is 10mpbs-serial, full-duplex. Transmit started, Receive started, full-duplex. The Rx process state is 'Waiting for packets'. The Tx process state is 'Idle'. The transmit threshold is 72. The NWay status register is 20ce. The current PNIC-II MAC address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d (a000a000 36cc1ddd). The current PNIC-II WOL address is 00:a0:cc:36:dd:1d. Internal autonegotiation state is 'Ability detect'. Use '-a' or '-aa' to show device registers, '-e' to show EEPROM contents, -ee for parsed contents, or '-m' or '-mm' to show MII management registers. Note the NWay register seems to be in a different state, and probably more importantly the autonegotiation is stuck in "Ability Detect" mode instead of "Negotiation Complete". As I write, the Port 2 indicator light on the Linksys hub is cycling between 10 and 100...apparently the hub cannot autonegotiate with its own matching card. One would be tempted to blame the hub rather than the card since the card works fine with the 3Com hub. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- -Statux ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: hub problems
Not quite. The idea behind switches is to collapse collision domains. If you have N machines on shared media (hubs) you have 1 collision domain of size N. If you replace the hubs with switches, each collision domain size two and you have N*(N-1) collision domains (i.e., every combination of two machines constitutes a collision domain). The original switches were all single speed (10Mbps). Adding multispeed capability, and full duplex, came later. Both are possible, in part, because switches buffer frames. Switches are much more complex, and have a variety of other benefits. That's why they cost more - rick warner On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Statux wrote: Interesting.. my pretty hub never gets any collisions tho ;) I thought the whole idea behind switches was to handle NICs that run at different speeds. On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Rick Warner wrote: Better pull out the Ethernet book. Hubs cannot do full duplex. If they tried to transmit and receive simultaneously on the same port (full duplex) a collision would occur and they would have to step back. Switches can do full duplex, hubs are half duplex only. Always have been, always will be. - rick warner ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: What happened to the mail status when i login?
Up until redhat 6.2 you would login and it would say you have mail or new mail. I've compared the login scripts and I cant find the difference. Can someone please point me in the right direction to get that message to appear when i login to my machine with redhat 7. Works perfectly here on my RH7.0... Ciao, Michele ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
