Re: Direct Rendering

2002-05-19 Thread Statux

If you're in runlevel 5 (X login), then you'll have to edit everything and
then reboot or something.. well.. not really but the easiest solution is
to be in runlevel 3 (if you're not in runlevel 3, do init 3 as root.
hopefully that should work). It's easier this way because you'll have to
keep testing things until it's right. startx is the command to get X
running from a VT.

I have a GeForce2 GTS. I'll send you my config file off the list (if
possible). You'll need to edit it to match your system though. DON'T just
plop mine in place over your's. Use it as a guide.

-Statux

On 19 May 2002, rodney wrote:

  Thankyou,
 I have a gforce2 and have downloaded the nvidia linux drivers for my
 RedHat 7.3. It says I have to exit the X server , How do I do this ?
 As you may have guessed I'm a Newbie,
 Thanks Again,
  Rodney.

 On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 15:30, Statux wrote:
  you have to edit the XF86Config file a bit. You'll want to check with your
  card's maker for drivers, etc, and related instructions on how to edit the
  config. nVidia, for instance, has a Linux driver and a nice page on how to
  get everything working.
 
  Big question here is: Do you have a 3D accelerator card?
 
  If you don't have one, then direct rendering is pointless because it won't
  work. If you do, what make and model? :)
 
 
  On 19 May 2002, rodney wrote:
 
   Hello,
   How do i change my direct rendering to yes, when I run glxinfo it says
   no.
  
   Thankyou,
   Rodney
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Gzip not compiled for large file size?

2002-05-19 Thread Tom Pollerman

   I got this from:
http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/hpux/Gnu/tar.1.13.25/

   The README for Gnu tar there reads in part:

GNU tar uses the gzip and bzip2 programs to read and write compressed
archives.  If you don't have these programs already, you need to
install them.  Their sources can be found at:

ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gzip/
http://sourceware.cygnus.com/bzip2/

If you see the following symptoms:

$ tar -xzf file.tar.gz
gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
tar: Child returned status 2

then you have encountered a gzip incompatibility that should be fixed
in gzip test version 1.3, which as of this writing is available at
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/gzip/.  You can work around the
incompatibility by using a shell command like
`gzip -d file.tar.gz | tar -xzf -'.

It may pertain to your problem..not sure. You may also chek out
Gnu.org on the Web.

  
   Tom

 
 Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:40:55 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: Lloyd Duhon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Gzip not compiled for large file size?
 
 [root@orion home]# tar -zvtf 24.Full.tgz  /backuplist.txt
 tar (child): 24.Full.tgz: Cannot open: Operation not permitted
 tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
 tar: Child returned status 2
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
 [root@orion home]#
 
 
 (I had to add the f flag to zvt, because it wouldn't look at my
 file, and 
 just sit waiting for input otherwise. but above is the results of
 your query.
 
 Hope this helps!!
   :-)
 
 Lloyd
 
 At 04:07 PM 5/16/2002 +0200, you wrote:
 Hello Lloyd,
 
 What does tar -zvt  /backuplist.txt return ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pieter
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lloyd Duhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 13 May 2002 23:26
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Gzip not compiled for large file size?
 
 
 I am experiencing a major problem. I had archived data, stored on a
 server. The server crashed, and the only copy of the archived data
 I have is on a backup file on our hard drive backup server.
 
 The file that this data resides in is 5.6 GB, a .tgz file. when I
 try to perform any operation on the file, I get the error
 Operation Not Permitted or similar. the most expressive error
 message was from lsattr:
 
 lsattr: Operation not permitted While reading flags on
 /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz
 
 file returns:
 
 /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz: can't stat
 `/Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz' (Value too large for
 defined data type).
 
 
 Tar returns:
 
 [root@backup root]# tar xvfpz
 /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz/etc/named.conf
 tar (child): /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz: Cannot
 open: Operation not permitted
 tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
 tar: Child returned status 2
 tar: /etc/named.conf: Not found in archive
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
 
 gzip simply returns:
 
 [root@backup root]# gzip -d
 /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz gzip:
 /Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz: Operation not permitted
 
 I have moved this file to several boxes to try to extract it, and
 I've upgraded to the latest of everything, fileutils, kernel, (I
 just up2dated everything on the backup server, and another server
 which we tried to use to ensure it wasn't a problem with the backup
 server itself.)
 
 I have tested many other backups from this backup server, and
 anything smaller than this archive that I have available extracts
 with no problems.
 
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Re: Gzip not compiled for large file size?

2002-05-19 Thread Tom Pollerman

On Sun, 19 May 2002 03:06:38 -0400
Tom Pollerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I got this from:
 http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/hpux/Gnu/tar.1.13.25/
 

THAT SHOULD READ:

 
http;//hpux.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Gnu/tar-1.13.25/

SORRY!!!Tom


The README for Gnu tar there reads in part:
 
 GNU tar uses the gzip and bzip2 programs to read and write
 compressed archives.  If you don't have these programs already, you
 need to install them.  Their sources can be found at:
 
 ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gzip/
 http://sourceware.cygnus.com/bzip2/
 
 If you see the following symptoms:
 
 $ tar -xzf file.tar.gz
 gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored
 tar: Child returned status 2
 
 then you have encountered a gzip incompatibility that should be
 fixed in gzip test version 1.3, which as of this writing is
 available atftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/gzip/.  You can work around
 the incompatibility by using a shell command like
 `gzip -d file.tar.gz | tar -xzf -'.
 
 It may pertain to your problem..not sure. You may also chek out
 Gnu.org on the Web.
 
   
   
Tom
 
  
  Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:40:55 -0700
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  From: Lloyd Duhon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Gzip not compiled for large file size?
  
  [root@orion home]# tar -zvtf 24.Full.tgz  /backuplist.txt
  tar (child): 24.Full.tgz: Cannot open: Operation not permitted
  tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
  tar: Child returned status 2
  tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
  [root@orion home]#
  
  
  (I had to add the f flag to zvt, because it wouldn't look at my
  file, and 
  just sit waiting for input otherwise. but above is the results of
  your query.
  
  Hope this helps!!
:-)
  
  Lloyd
  
  At 04:07 PM 5/16/2002 +0200, you wrote:
  Hello Lloyd,
  
  What does tar -zvt  /backuplist.txt return ?
  
  Cheers,
  
  Pieter
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Lloyd Duhon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 13 May 2002 23:26
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Gzip not compiled for large file size?
  
  
  I am experiencing a major problem. I had archived data, stored on
  a server. The server crashed, and the only copy of the archived
  data I have is on a backup file on our hard drive backup server.
  
  The file that this data resides in is 5.6 GB, a .tgz f
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Re: ximian gnome vs. gnome delivered with rh 7.3 and migrating fromone distribution to another

2002-05-19 Thread Joachim Breuer

John P Verel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 05/17/02, 05:12:53PM -0500, Bret Hughes wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 16:52, John P Verel wrote:
  On 05/17/02, 12:56:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  As I say, I liked Ximian.  But upgrading, at least for now, is not
  ready for prime time, IMHO.  I'm quite happy with RedHat's out of the
  box Gnome install.
 
 
 I am in the same boat now.  I have a laptop that is my primary
 workstation and I wanted to try evolution so I did the ximian thing. 
 Now I can't even upgrade mozilla since ximian gets its fingers into
 everything.  I am going to try and upgrade it to 7.3 from 7.2 but first
 I guess I will have to undo the ximian stuff.  Any tips on it?  

 The only thing that worked for me was to remove all the ximian rpms,
 using a KDE Konsole.  Presulably a regualr console would work as well.

Hm. I've done more than one upgrade (7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3) of
several Ximianized RH systems, one of them yesterday (7.2 - 7.3). (I
wanted to verify this procedure again before commenting on it in the
other message about removing rpms in this thread).

All I usually did was upgrade using the CDs (booting off them,
choosing upgrade) as usual, where I had to tell RH that it's ok with
me that it does what it sees fit with overlapping 3rd party
packages.

After upgrading RH I simply reinstalled ximian using the following
procedure:

- System-wide X server turned off (telinit 3 or edited initdefault)

- On text console 1 log in as root, start X (using just
X 
so it will sit there without any applications - especially no gnome
ones)

- On text console 2 log in as root, start the ximian installer
DISPLAY=:0 ./installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386

- Switching to the X screen (usually console 7) shows the ximian
installer sort of stuck in the upper left corner without any
decoration (because no window manager is running); but it is fully
useable nonetheless. Finish installation as usual.

+ Sometimes the installer complains about requireing specific versions
of some packages (but that is no longer related to the RH upgrade -
would happen with a full reinstall as well, I guess). When you have
the machine being installed connected to the internet just removing
the offending packages is usually sufficient; if it is in the way a
different version would be installed by ximian anyway ;-)

- After installation has completed, exit X server (for example using
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in the now empty graphics screen); go back to
runlevel 5 (telinit 5) and exit the text consoles.

Worked for me everytime; yesterday even between upgrading RH and
reinstalling Ximian the gnome desktop was in a useable state (as my
girlfriend accidentally found out :-)


What exactly are the upgrade problems you're experiencing?


So long,
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Re: Setting Domain Name in Redhat

2002-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 06:14:45PM -0700, CM Miller wrote:
 
 I'm not sure what is the proper way to set a domain
 name for the computers on my network. 

Here's what I have on all my machines:

In /etc/sysconfig/network: HOSTNAME=munshine.acticiel.com
In /etc/HOSTNAME: munshine.acticiel.com
In /etc/hosts: 195.25.109.131   munshine.acticiel.com   munshine

[seyman@munshine seyman]$ hostname --short
munshine
[seyman@munshine seyman]$ hostname --long
munshine.acticiel.com

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Re: Large File Size problems on 7.2 RedHat

2002-05-19 Thread Joachim Breuer

Lloyd Duhon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That would be wonderful, if there is a way to do that. I am not
 personally aware of a way. I would be sufficiently happy to just
 extract a few files from the archive, that is my primary goal at this
 time. If anyone knows of any way, no matter how time or hardware
 consuming it is, please let me know.

 At 09:13 AM 5/16/2002 -0500, you wrote:
 I'm not that experienced with TAR and GZIP, but it may be possible
 to TAR/GZIP you 6GB file into a series of smaller files that DO
 transfer correctly.

The file that this data resides in is 5.6 GB, a .tgz file. when I try to
perform any operation on the file, I get the error Operation Not
Permitted or similar. the most expressive error message was from lsattr:
lsattr: Operation not permitted While reading flags on
/Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz
file returns:
/Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz: can't stat
`/Raid/Backup.cp1/cp1/2002_Mar/03.Full.tgz' (Value too large for defined
data type).

Hm - what I want to say rather pertains to reading the file at all,
not necessarily splitting it.

The general consensus seems to be that it is some kind of 'large file'
problem, so one viable alternative might be to 'hide' the file size
from the programs working on it, using pipes.

What does
  cat 03.Full.tgz | tar tvzf -
do? Is there an error message?

If yes, what does
  cat 03.Full.tgz  /dev/null
do? Is there still an error message? If yes, it would appear that you
cannot read the file at all for whatever reason - what exactly is the
system you're working on like? (Distribution/Release, Kernel Version)


Another way to achieve essentially the same thing using dd instead of
cat would be
  dd if=03.Full.tgz bs=10k | tar tvzf -
or
  dd if=03.Full.tgz of=/dev/null
respectively.


If you need more help, please tell me your distribution (cat
/etc/issue if it is redhat), and the versions of all major utilities,
which can be obtained using ver_linux (included in the
kernel-source-*.rpm (not the kernel-*.src.rpm)) like this:
  sh /usr/src/linux-version/scripts/ver_linux

It is not necessary for the kernel source rpm to exactly match the
kernel you are running (for getting the ver_linux information,
anyway).

Please cutpaste ver_linux's output along with all error messages from
the commands above, perhaps that sheds a little more light on the
matter.


So long,
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Re: what does pine use for sending mail?

2002-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer

All or nothing if they're running Exchange 5.0.  If so, they should
probably upgrade or migrate away.  If it's 5.5 or 2000, they should see
this:
http://www.mail-abuse.org/tsi/ar-fix.html#exchange


On Fri, 2002-05-17 at 06:05, dbrett wrote:
 Hi Gordon
 
 The people who manage the mail servers, tell me it is an all or nothing
 situation.  Since I don't have access or know how to configure them, I
 have to take there word for it.
 
 david
 
 On 16 May 2002, Gordon Messmer wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 07:10, dbrett wrote:
   What does Pine use for sending email?  The reason for the question, is I
   use linux as my desktop.  I was able to configure the companies email
   server (exchange) as the smtp-server.  Once the exchange server was
   configured to stop relaying, I could no longer have a smtp-server
   configured.  This solved the problem of send email to most people in the
   office.
  
  What did you do to disable the relay?  It sounds like you made the relay
  restrictions too strict.  Can you enable relay for your private IP
  network only?
  
  
 
 
 
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DHCP question.

2002-05-19 Thread Ragnar Wiencke

Hi there.

I got a Linux box serving as a Router and Firewall using two Nics. One
Nic is connected to my ADSL modem and its network is 10.0.0.0/16 and
the other is connected to my internal network 192.168.1.0/24.
My questions are:
Can I run a DHCP server on the machine on the 192.168.1.0/24 network
without it broadcasting or interfering in any way with the 10.0.0.0/16
network. Does it compromise the security on the firewall and do I have
to add some rules to IPTABLES?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Tool to migrate from MS Exchange to Linux?

2002-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer

Courier features web-based calendaring.  Having not used Exchange, I'm
not sure if agenda management is a separate feature, and if so, why it
would need to be done on a server...  Could you elaborate?


On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 07:49, Robert Bleumer wrote:
 Is there a Linux mail server which can also do agenda management like
 Exchange ?
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Gordon Messmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Verzonden: donderdag 16 mei 2002 6:37
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: Tool to migrate from MS Exchange to Linux?
 
 
 On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 14:43, Steve Busko wrote:
  All,  looking to see if anyone knows of any migration
  tools that can be used to move from an MS Exchange mail server to Red 
  Hat Linux.  Or any other migration info or tips a bonus.  Thanks in 
  advance for any help.
 
 Consider using Courier MTA:  http://www.courier-mta.org/
 
 You can use imapcp to copy the accounts messages from one server to
 another: http://www.jplanglois.com/products/imapcp/
 
 
 
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Re: Courier, was Re: Tool to migrate

2002-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 22:23, Gary wrote:
 On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 09:36:58PM -0700 or thereabouts, Gordon Messmer wrote:
  On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 14:43, Steve Busko wrote:
   All,  looking to see if anyone knows of any migration
  
  Consider using Courier MTA:  http://www.courier-mta.org/
 
 Hello Gordon,
 
 A few times I have seen your offing on courier for an MTA. I have
 visited their site, and am quite impressed with its capabilities and
 add-ins.. How is the installation, and speed as an MTA.  I am currently
 using Postfix.. Any personal thoughts on your working observations is
 appreciated.. 
  

Installation is easy.  The tarball can be compiled directly into an rpm
using 'rpm -ta courier-version.tar.gz'.  Using the binary packages,
most of the setup is already done.  After that, you just have to
configure the individual daemons to run.

I haven't benchmarked Courier, so I can't answer you easily on speed...
I would expect its performance to be similar to qmail or postfix in
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Re: DHCP question.

2002-05-19 Thread Huter.Liu

hi,Ragnar Wiencke!
See my config:
[root@linux root]# dhcpd eth0
Internet Software Consortium DHCP Server 2.0pl5
Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
All rights reserved.

Please contribute if you find this software useful.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html

Listening on Socket/eth0/10.197.224.0
Sending on   Socket/eth0/10.197.224.0
so I modify the file /etc/init.d/dhcpd:
start() {
# Start daemons.
echo -n $Starting $prog: 
daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd eth0 ${DHCPDARGS}
RETVAL=$?  ~~It work,but I know it's not the best way
.
[root@linux init.d]# /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
Shutting down dhcpd:   [  OK  ]
Starting dhcpd:[  OK  ]


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Re: Re: DHCP question.

2002-05-19 Thread Huter.Liu

hi,Huter.Liu!
And about the firewall:
   DHCP uses UDP as its transport protocol.  DHCP messages from a client
   to a server are sent to the 'DHCP server' port (67), and DHCP
   messages from a server to a client are sent to the 'DHCP client' port
   (68). A server with multiple network address (e.g., a multi-homed
   host) MAY use any of its network addresses in outgoing DHCP messages.


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Configure X

2002-05-19 Thread rodney

Hello, 
How do I configure XFree for direct rendering in RedHat 7.3
Rodney.





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WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread john-paul delaney

Hello list...

The backup report on my rh7.0 tells me it cannot find my apache directory (installed 
on /tmp for bad disk partitioning/space reasons).

Granted, I may have inadvertently deleted it myself though not sure of this.  Is there 
a way to find out what happened?  I've not found anything relevant in logs.

Although I don't know the exact day this happened, the last backup of 6 days ago 
didn't report the error.

I've restored ok but I'm not sure of the reason for this disappearance - which worries 
me.  Any suggestions on how to trap a similar deletion in the future would be 
appreciated.

thanks
/j-p.


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Re: Setting Domain Name in Redhat

2002-05-19 Thread Jake McHenry

I just had a post running for about two days all about this...

It should be under HOSTNAME in /etc/sysconfig/network, DOMAINNAME doesn't 
do anything.

HOSTNAME=pheonix.miller.com

Jake

At 06:14 PM 5/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:


I'm not sure what is the proper way to set a domain
name for the computers on my network.

I have two machines, named phoenix and thurston.

When I do hostname for both, I get the following:

phoenix.miller
thurston.miller

So under /etc/sysconfig and then vi network do I want
to add?

DOMAINNAME = phoenix.miller.com

Would this be correct?

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Re: Microsoft Money

2002-05-19 Thread Ted Gervais

On Thursday 16 May 2002 21:26, jack wallen wrote:
 gnucash rocks!

Hi Jack..

I believe it *rocks * too, as you say, but if it can't import *.QFX files it 
is no good to me.  My bank used to offer .QIF downloads but stopped. The 
alternative or replacement choice is now QFX??

So until Gnucash can handle this type of file I am lost..


Thanks for your comment.


 On Thu, 2002-05-16 at 20:17, Ted Gervais wrote:
  I am looking for something like Microsoft Money that I can use in
  RedHat7.3. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
  ---
  Ted Gervais,
  Coldbrook, Nova Scotia, Canada
 
 
 
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RE: RedHat Scripts

2002-05-19 Thread Ted Gervais


Hello Hugh and others on the list.

Well I tried the script and it DOES work.  At least the application is 
brought up just fine and there are no errors that I can see.
Same things when things are shutting down. There are no errors.

I may be premature in saying I see success here, but at least for the 
moment I do.  I will have to try a few more of my applications yet and than 
I will really know.

Also Hugh, I tried to write you privately yesterday and your email address 
failed. Maybe I don't have it correctly..  I wanted you to have a quick 
look at a script I have here that no longer seems to work.  I am guessing 
that maybe the change to newer versions of RedHat may be the problem?? I 
wonder eh?

Anyways - thanks very much for your input. I also read the backgroup you 
spoke of which basically was supporting what you were doing or were after.
All this has been very informative and will no doubt help me continue on to 
extensions of  these scripts.

I wish there was a more automatic way to do these scripts, but I guess not. 
Or at least not at this moment.  A simple 'fill-in-the-blanks' 
process.  Something where you would enter (on a form) what the name of the 
application is. Where it was located. And what is the purpose of this 
application (description).  And than maybe something like the various 
levels that you might be interested in.   Than when you saved it,  it would 
be stored in the /etc/init.d directory and you would only than have to run 
'chkconfig --add XXX'  and finally chkconfig --level 2345 name on'.

Sound simple??


At 10:40 AM 5/18/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Ted:

I just went through some of this and there are a couple of things
to watch out for. See the init/rc scripts thread in the maillist
archives for details:

https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/private/redhat-list/2002-April/137519.htm
l

Basically you will need to:

1. Write a script to start/stop your process. This script will
need a minimum of two comment lines (chkconfig: and
description:) to supply info to chkconfig. It will need
to handle a parameter with a minimum of 2 values (start and
stop). It will also need to create/delete a marker file in
/var/lock/subsys/.

2. Copy the script to /etc/init.d/.

3. Use the chkconfig --add name command to populate the
/etc/rc*.d/ directories.

For example, say we have a script (xxxsrv) that contains:

   :
   # chkconfig:  235 99 01
   # description:Sample XXX server
   #
   CMD=`basename $0`
   PRG=`echo ${CMD} | sed -e 's/[KS][0-9][0-9]//'`

   case $1 in
   start)
   /usr/bin/XXXstart
   touch /var/lock/subsys/${PRG}
   ;;
   stop)
   /usr/bin/XXXstop
   rm /var/lock/subsys/${PRG}  ;;
   *)
   echo Usage: ${PRG} {start|stop}
   ;;
   esac

The 235 in the chkconfig: comment will tell chkconfig to
install the script into rc2.d, rc3.d and rc5.d. The 99 and
01 will tell chkconfig the level number to use in the S
and K filenames. So after coping our xxxsrv script to
/etc/init.d and then running chkconfig --add xxxsrv we will
have the the following links to the /etc/init.d/xxxsrv script:

/etc/rc0.d/K01xxxsrv
/etc/rc1.d/K01xxxsrv
/etc/rc2.d/S99xxxsrv
/etc/rc3.d/S99xxxsrv
/etc/rc4.d/K01xxxsrv
/etc/rc5.d/S99xxxsrv
/etc/rc6.d/K01xxxsrv

Not that I have not tested the script above but it is a hack
of my working script so I would not anticipate a problem with
it.

That should get you started but check out the references that I
was given in the archived messages for more info.

HTH

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  -Original Message-
  From: Ted Gervais
  Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:50 AM
 
  I have an application I want to run in my RedHat 7.3 system and
  its called
  from /usr/sbin directory.  To get it to run at boottime, I stuck
  a link to
  it from /etc/rc.d/rc3.d.   It works but I know this is not the
  right way to
  do things.  It seems to me that I should be writing a script to
  bring that
  application up, rather than just calling it from where it sleeps.  Of
  course I sometimes also call some of these applications from the
  /etc/rc.d/rc.local.  Rather than through proper scripts etc..
 
  I want to do it the right way, at least for once.  Is there a
  step by step
  process I can follow to get at least one of these applications
  starting up
  right and closing down properly?  I don't want to learn the process *
  indepth *, but enough to get ONE working and even if it was down
  for me, it
  would be a great example to follow for  the future.
 
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7.3 3D Acceleration

2002-05-19 Thread Ricardo Gladwell

Hi All,

I recently upgraded from RedHat 7.2 to 7.3. In my previous installation
3D acceleration worked perfectly with my 3DFX Voodoo III 3000 card, but
for some reason it isn't working for RedHat 7.3. When I try to run
SDL/OpenGL games like Chromium, Space Tripper or Vega Strike the game
runs really slowly as if it weren't accessing the 3D Acceleration at
all.

I've run Xconfigurator several times, putting in the correct settings
for my graphics card (16 MB RAM, no default clockchip, etc) and this
doesn't appear to resolve the issue.

I'm at a loss what to do: has anyone had similar problems or can anyone
help me?

TIA...

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Apache:Load mod_status error

2002-05-19 Thread john-paul delaney

Hello List...

Running apache1.3.24 on rh7.0.  I attempt to dynamically load mod_status:

   LoadModule status_module /usr/lib/apache/mod_status.so

but on apachectl I get this error:

   Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/mod_status.so into server: undefined symbol: 
ap_hook_use

Anyone have any experience with this?

thanks
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Re: Need help!!

2002-05-19 Thread Muhammad Faisal Rauf Danka

either hack some local suid binary. or  linux single after rebooting? tried that?

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Re: problem: connection refused for ftp

2002-05-19 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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HELP!! can't start a new session

2002-05-19 Thread Robin Atwood

I just issued a cat /proc/devices at a KDE konsole session after which the 
konsole disappeared. Every time I start a new konsole it appears and then 
closes immediately. Neither xterm or rxvt open either. Worse, switching to a 
VT  I login and get immediately logged off! For any userid! So I am afraid to 
logoff or reboot in case I cannot login again. There are no messages in the 
syslog except the normal session start/close messages. So any idea what has 
got hosed? It's not a problem with ~/.bash_history because it happens for all 
users. FWIW, this is a RH7.2 system with a 2.4.18 kernel. The password file 
is okay because there are no error messages. I think it happens when bash 
tries to start.
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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Sunday 19 May 2002 10:38 am, john-paul delaney wrote:

 The backup report on my rh7.0 tells me it cannot find my apache
 directory (installed on /tmp for bad disk partitioning/space reasons).

 Granted, I may have inadvertently deleted it myself though not sure of
 this.  Is there a way to find out what happened?  I've not found
 anything relevant in logs.

Have a look at /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch.
It will remove files in /tmp that have not been accessed in the past 10 
days, if I remember correctly. Then again, i haven't had coffee yet this 
morning. ;)

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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:59:31AM -0400, Michael Fratoni wrote:
 
 Have a look at /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch.
 It will remove files in /tmp that have not been accessed in the past 10 
 days, if I remember correctly. Then again, i haven't had coffee yet this 
 morning. ;)

It's 30 days, actually. Time to get that coffee. :-

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Re: HELP!! can't start a new session

2002-05-19 Thread Robin Atwood

On Sunday 19 May 2002 21:15, Robin Atwood wrote:
 I just issued a cat /proc/devices at a KDE konsole session after which
 the konsole disappeared. Every time I start a new konsole it appears and
 then closes immediately. Neither xterm or rxvt open either. Worse,
 switching to a VT  I login and get immediately logged off! For any userid!
 So I am afraid to logoff or reboot in case I cannot login again. There are
 no messages in the syslog except the normal session start/close messages.
 So any idea what has got hosed? It's not a problem with ~/.bash_history
 because it happens for all users. FWIW, this is a RH7.2 system with a
 2.4.18 kernel. The password file is okay because there are no error
 messages. I think it happens when bash tries to start.

Okay, panic over. :-) I edited the /etc/passwd file to change my shell to ksh 
and then I could get to a command line. Typing bash produced memory error 
so I reinstalled the bash rpm and all was well again. But how the bash binary 
was suddenly corrupted by a cat command remains a complete mystery. 
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Web-based PIM?

2002-05-19 Thread fred pasteck

Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend a good web-based PIM
application that they find useful?

Are there any that integrate with an LDAP database for
addressbooks?

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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Sunday 19 May 2002 11:23 am, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
 On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:59:31AM -0400, Michael Fratoni wrote:
  Have a look at /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch.
  It will remove files in /tmp that have not been accessed in the past
  10 days, if I remember correctly. Then again, i haven't had coffee
  yet this morning. ;)

 It's 30 days, actually. Time to get that coffee. :-

Looking again, (at least on 7.3 and 7.1) with my coffee in hand ;)
/tmp is 10 days. 
/var/tmp is 30, however. (240 and 720 hours, respectively)
[mfratoni@paradox scripts]$  head -2 /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch
/usr/sbin/tmpwatch 240 /tmp
/usr/sbin/tmpwatch 720 /var/tmp

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IBM Laptops and RH

2002-05-19 Thread Allen Wayne Best

hi all:

I have found a source for used IBM Laptops. I am considering purchasing one 
for use as a mobile RH computer. If any anyone has experience, plus or minus, 
with them, I would appreciate any input. They have a variety of models, and I 
would like to get one that will provide the fastest installation with respect 
to problems.

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question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

using RH 7.2

how can I change JUST the ownerships globally,
using chown, for all domains (have 100)...
and have each domain endup having the ownerships of 
all their files/dirs using THEIR specific user/group ownerships?
(need to do this all at once)

i.e.  say i have a domain called

komp.com

the user (when ftping) is: com
and the group is : com

but I can't have com used for the other domains.


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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread john-paul delaney

Thanks Michael and Emmanuel... you've taught me something new.  

Anyone have an idea how can I prevent tmpwatch removing the sub-directory /tmp/apache 
(at least until I move the apache directory to a safer home) but still run on /tmp as 
normal?

regards
/j-p.


On Sun, 19 May 2002, Michael Fratoni wrote:

 On Sunday 19 May 2002 11:23 am, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
  On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:59:31AM -0400, Michael Fratoni wrote:
   Have a look at /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch.
   It will remove files in /tmp that have not been accessed in the past
   10 days, if I remember correctly. Then again, i haven't had coffee
   yet this morning. ;)
 
  It's 30 days, actually. Time to get that coffee. :-
 
 Looking again, (at least on 7.3 and 7.1) with my coffee in hand ;)
 /tmp is 10 days.
 /var/tmp is 30, however. (240 and 720 hours, respectively)
 [mfratoni@paradox scripts]$  head -2 /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 240 /tmp
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 720 /var/tmp
 
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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Sunday 19 May 2002 04:47 pm, john-paul delaney wrote:
 Thanks Michael and Emmanuel... you've taught me something new.

 Anyone have an idea how can I prevent tmpwatch removing the
 sub-directory /tmp/apache (at least until I move the apache directory
 to a safer home) but still run on /tmp as normal?

You could edit /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch, and change:
/usr/sbin/tmpwatch 240 /tmp
to:
/usr/sbin/tmpwatch 720 /tmp
Which would give you 30 days.

Or write a quick script to modify the access time on the files you want to 
keep.

#! /bin/sh
for file in /tmp/apache/* ; do
  touch -a $file
done
exit

Untested, but something similar should do the trick. Just run it as a cron 
job daily and it should keep the atime current enough that tmpwatch will 
ignore it. I'm not sure if just touching the apache directory will 
protect the contents as well, though it probably should.

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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:07:16PM -0400, Michael Fratoni wrote:
 
 Looking again, (at least on 7.3 and 7.1) with my coffee in hand ;)
 /tmp is 10 days. 
 /var/tmp is 30, however. (240 and 720 hours, respectively)

My bad. I missed the first line when I cat-ed the script.
10 days, it is.

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TO ALL WHO HAVE JUST RECENTLY ASKED ABOUT 3D ACCELERATION

2002-05-19 Thread The Gyzmo

Go to http://dri.sourceforge.net/ and look at the
documentation page, it will help you a lot.

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What is 'rc'

2002-05-19 Thread danrembolt

Many of the config file names end in 'rc'.   Anyone know what this naming convention 
stands for or how it got started?   
Runtime configuration?

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RE: TO ALL WHO HAVE JUST RECENTLY ASKED ABOUT 3D ACCELERATION

2002-05-19 Thread BG

Great Info thanks!  Unfortunately, the card with all the interest (NVIDIA)
is unsupported.

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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread john-paul delaney

Michael... Notch up one more grateful newbie on your guru yardstick.

thanks
/j-p.


On Sun, 19 May 2002, Michael Fratoni wrote:

 On Sunday 19 May 2002 04:47 pm, john-paul delaney wrote:
  Thanks Michael and Emmanuel... you've taught me something new.
 
  Anyone have an idea how can I prevent tmpwatch removing the
  sub-directory /tmp/apache (at least until I move the apache directory
  to a safer home) but still run on /tmp as normal?
 
 You could edit /etc/cron.daily/tmpwatch, and change:
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 240 /tmp
 to:
 /usr/sbin/tmpwatch 720 /tmp
 Which would give you 30 days.
 
 Or write a quick script to modify the access time on the files you want to
 keep.
 
 #! /bin/sh
 for file in /tmp/apache/* ; do
   touch -a $file
 done
 exit
 
 Untested, but something similar should do the trick. Just run it as a cron
 job daily and it should keep the atime current enough that tmpwatch will
 ignore it. I'm not sure if just touching the apache directory will
 protect the contents as well, though it probably should.
 
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RH 7.3 installation

2002-05-19 Thread Mobeen Azhar

I had a box running RH 7.2 fine.  The only quirk that the box had was
that I had to add mem=88M in order to get it to see all the memory in
the box.  I had to use the mem=88M parameter even during installation of
RH 7.2 because otherwise it would say something to the effect that there
was not enough memory to perform the installation and quit.  However,
with mem=88M, the box installed RH 7.2 and ran great.

Now I am trying to install RH 7.3 on the same box.  If I try to perform
a simple installation without the mem=88M parameter, I get a message
saying not enough memory to install RH.  If I use mem=88M (I tried this
with 64M and 32 M also), then, when the box tries to load the kernel
from the boot floppy, I get the floppy message and a kernel panic:

EXT2-FS:  unable to read super block
Cramfs:  wrong magic
FAT:  Unable to read boot sector
Isofs_read_super:  bread failed, dev=09:00 iso blknum=16,block=32
Kernel panic:  VFS unable to mount root fs on 09:00


Any ideas why RH 7.2 installs fine on the box but not 7.3?

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USB - Sony digital camera

2002-05-19 Thread Patrick Nelson

Have RH72 and a Sony DSC-P5 Digital Still Camera.

This camera has a USB output and on a Winbloz system it shows up as another
disk drive when plugged in.

I tried it on my Linux system and usbview shows the device but I'm not sure
what I need to do to get it to access the data.  I figure that there is
probably a good chance that there is no driver for it and I'm SOOL, being
forced to hold onto a Winbloz system for down loading off the camera.
However, I thought I would ask... anyone know if I can, in fact, extract the
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Making boot.img floppy

2002-05-19 Thread Eddie Strohmier


Hello all:

I need to make a boot floppy to install RH 7.3 on my machine as I can
not boot from CD. I am finding the boot.img to large to fit on a
standard 1.44 floppy. Is there a way around this? Do I need a larger
floppy disk? When I have installed 6.2 in the past I never had a problem
with floppy size but I guess that boot.img is getting larger. I was
using rawrite.exe from the redhat cd on an old Windoze 98 machine via
dos emulation. If I were to use dd what is the format of that command to
place that file on a floppy. I still wonder of using dd would allow the
boot.img to fit on a 1.44 floppy.

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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

2002-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 10:12, Michael Fratoni wrote:
 Or write a quick script to modify the access time on the files you want to 
 keep.
 
 #! /bin/sh
 for file in /tmp/apache/* ; do
   touch -a $file
 done
 exit

That may not keep his files from being deleted.  To touch them all, do
something like this:

#!/bin/sh
find /tmp/apache | xargs touch




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Re: WARNING /tmp/apache not found.

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 That may not keep his files from being deleted.  To touch them all, do
 something like this:

 #!/bin/sh
 find /tmp/apache | xargs touch

Yes, you're right. That is a better idea. 
I'd still use 'touch -a' and modify just the access time.

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Re: Making boot.img floppy

2002-05-19 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Sunday 19 May 2002 03:29 pm, Eddie Strohmier wrote:

 I need to make a boot floppy to install RH 7.3 on my machine as I can
 not boot from CD. I am finding the boot.img to large to fit on a
 standard 1.44 floppy. Is there a way around this? Do I need a larger
 floppy disk? When I have installed 6.2 in the past I never had a
 problem with floppy size but I guess that boot.img is getting larger. I
 was using rawrite.exe from the redhat cd on an old Windoze 98 machine
 via dos emulation. If I were to use dd what is the format of that
 command to place that file on a floppy. I still wonder of using dd
 would allow the boot.img to fit on a 1.44 floppy.

What .img file are you trying to use?
On the CD, images/boot.img should fit with no trouble.
ls -alh /mnt/cdrom/images/boot.img
- -rw-r--r--2 root root 1.4M

To use dd:
dd if=/mnt/cdrom/images/boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k

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Re: USB - Sony digital camera

2002-05-19 Thread Kjetil Tjensvold

Anyway, it's not supported in the 7.2 kernel so I
guess you must find a linux driver for the camera. 

--- Patrick Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:  Have
RH72 and a Sony DSC-P5 Digital Still Camera.
 
 This camera has a USB output and on a Winbloz system
 it shows up as another
 disk drive when plugged in.
 
 I tried it on my Linux system and usbview shows the
 device but I'm not sure
 what I need to do to get it to access the data.  I
 figure that there is
 probably a good chance that there is no driver for
 it and I'm SOOL, being
 forced to hold onto a Winbloz system for down
 loading off the camera.
 However, I thought I would ask... anyone know if I
 can, in fact, extract the
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz


At 5/16/2002 10:10 PM -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 
  Because POP before SMTP is a kludge. SMTP AUTH is part of the standard.
 

But Pop-Before-SMTP utilizes existing, easily implementable standards.

Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH, and it's not
necessarily an easy thing to properly implement.

Incorrect, Brother Burger. Deeply, profoundly incorrect.

SMTP AUTH is a standard, defined via RFC as standards are. It therefore 
meets your existing criterion. It is also extremely easy to implement 
(meeting your second criterion).

Any user with enough skill (loosely defined) to modify sendmail.mc and 
allow their mailserver to receive connections from the network can also 
uncomment the following three lines (straight from the stock sendmail.mc):

define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl

Then restart sendmail; that's all there is to it.

On the other hand, POP-before-SMTP is not a standard or anything close to 
it. It is a kludge (albeit a useful kludge) which was implemented during 
the interval _after_ SMTP AUTH was defined but _before_ most mailers 
supported it. Note that LookOut, LookOut Express, Eudora, Evolution, KMail, 
and even pine support SMTP AUTH. Whichever mailers don't support it, are 
simply broken.

I also don't find it easier to implement. Additional packages, additional 
databases, also having to modify sendmail.mc, and the fact that all my 
users scream about their mail not leaving their computer, the grief about 
having to constantly check mail twice, etc... all these things tell me that 
POP-before-SMTP is not my friend.


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question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

using RH 7.2

how can I change JUST the ownerships globally,
using chown, for all domains (have 100)...
and have each domain endup having the ownerships of 
all their files/dirs using THEIR specific user/group ownerships?
(need to do this all at once)

i.e.  say i have a domain called

komp.com

the user (when ftping) is: com
and the group is : com

but I can't have com used for the other domains.


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dd and CDROM image

2002-05-19 Thread fred pasteck

Hi everyone. I'm trying to dd a CDROM to produce an
ISO image using the following:

# dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdrom.iso

This works, and I can mount the resulting ISO using
the loop device, but there's an I/O error at the end:

# dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdrom.iso
dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
1000480+0 records in
1000480+0 records out

It's apparently missing a byte or two because the MD5
sums don't match what they're supposed to be. What is
the best way to get an image from a CDROM?

Should I be using 512k blocks and the specific number
of blocks with the count= argument? My reason for
doing all of this is to verify the CDROM was burned to
correctly match that of the original ISO. Is there a
better way?

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Re: USB - Sony digital camera

2002-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 12:09:04PM -0700, Patrick Nelson wrote:

 Have RH72 and a Sony DSC-P5 Digital Still Camera.

You'll need a kernel newer than 2.4.9 (actually, I think you'll
need newer than 2.4.12).
It works out of the box in Valhalla but not Enigma.

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Change Default Windowsmanager for Graphic Login?

2002-05-19 Thread CM Miller



When ever I use the Graphical Login Screen, it always
defaults to Enlightenment, and I have removed the rpm.

Is there anyway to set the default to Sawfish, which
is the one that I use?

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Re: problem: connection refused for ftp

2002-05-19 Thread Chris Calvert

Frank:

Are you sure the machine's IP isn't being blocked by a firewall or
wrappers (/etc/hosts.deny,hosts.allow), and secondly, are you sure the
ftp daemon is running on the other machine.

chris

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Re: Removing the RH Background under KDM

2002-05-19 Thread Erik Sabowski

The way i get rid of it is by commenting out the part of 
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_O that does xsri.

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Making boot.img floppy

2002-05-19 Thread Eddie Strohmier


Hello all:

I need to make a boot floppy to install RH 7.3 on my machine as I can
not boot from CD. I am finding the boot.img to large to fit on a
standard 1.44 floppy. Is there a way around this? Do I need a larger
floppy disk? When I have installed 6.2 in the past I never had a problem
with floppy size but I guess that boot.img is getting larger. I was
using rawrite.exe from the redhat cd on an old Windoze 98 machine via
dos emulation. If I were to use dd what is the format of that command to
place that file on a floppy. I still wonder of using dd would allow the
boot.img to fit on a 1.44 floppy.

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/var/log

2002-05-19 Thread angelaoyu

Hi all

I am using RH 7.2

After using the syslog to receive the logs from other servers, the
files, message, maillog are not automatically generated to message.1,
message.2 when the files become bigger

How can I make it same as before.

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Re: USB - Sony digital camera

2002-05-19 Thread Erik Sabowski

I have a Olympus C-3040ZOOM, i access it by mounting /dev/sda1. that 
should work for any camera that works as USB mass storage device. if you 
have other scsi device, it may be higher than sda1 (sda2, sda3, etc)

airyk

Patrick Nelson wrote:
 Have RH72 and a Sony DSC-P5 Digital Still Camera.
 
 This camera has a USB output and on a Winbloz system it shows up as another
 disk drive when plugged in.
 
 I tried it on my Linux system and usbview shows the device but I'm not sure
 what I need to do to get it to access the data.  I figure that there is
 probably a good chance that there is no driver for it and I'm SOOL, being
 forced to hold onto a Winbloz system for down loading off the camera.
 However, I thought I would ask... anyone know if I can, in fact, extract the
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Mike Burger

Brother Paiz, I'm afraid you misread or misunderstood my comment.

Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH.  I did not say 
not all MTAs...mailers = client mail programs.  MTAs = mail servers.

On Sat, 18 May 2002, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:

 
 At 5/16/2002 10:10 PM -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
 On Thu, 16 May 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
  
   Because POP before SMTP is a kludge. SMTP AUTH is part of the standard.
  
 
 But Pop-Before-SMTP utilizes existing, easily implementable standards.
 
 Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH, and it's not
 necessarily an easy thing to properly implement.
 
 Incorrect, Brother Burger. Deeply, profoundly incorrect.
 
 SMTP AUTH is a standard, defined via RFC as standards are. It therefore 
 meets your existing criterion. It is also extremely easy to implement 
 (meeting your second criterion).
 
 Any user with enough skill (loosely defined) to modify sendmail.mc and 
 allow their mailserver to receive connections from the network can also 
 uncomment the following three lines (straight from the stock sendmail.mc):
 
 define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl
 TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
 define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl
 
 Then restart sendmail; that's all there is to it.
 
 On the other hand, POP-before-SMTP is not a standard or anything close to 
 it. It is a kludge (albeit a useful kludge) which was implemented during 
 the interval _after_ SMTP AUTH was defined but _before_ most mailers 
 supported it. Note that LookOut, LookOut Express, Eudora, Evolution, KMail, 
 and even pine support SMTP AUTH. Whichever mailers don't support it, are 
 simply broken.
 
 I also don't find it easier to implement. Additional packages, additional 
 databases, also having to modify sendmail.mc, and the fact that all my 
 users scream about their mail not leaving their computer, the grief about 
 having to constantly check mail twice, etc... all these things tell me that 
 POP-before-SMTP is not my friend.
 
 
 



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dhcpd listening on eth1 only :-/

2002-05-19 Thread LuisMi

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Hi all,

My question is simple...
How can I configure dhcpd on my box to listen only on eth1?
I modify /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd because I read that I could tell what 
interface should be used by dhcpd in the command line, so I modified that 
file. But it is impossible, I have the same problem, dhcpd don't want to 
start.
 
Any idea?

Thanks.

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Re: dhcpd listening on eth1 only :-/

2002-05-19 Thread Mike Burger

What I did was edit /etc/rc.d/init.d/dhcpd.

I found the line that read daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd and added eth0 to 
the end, so that it now reads daemon /usr/sbin/dhcpd eth0.

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 My question is simple...
 How can I configure dhcpd on my box to listen only on eth1?
 I modify /etc/sysconfig/dhcpd because I read that I could tell what 
 interface should be used by dhcpd in the command line, so I modified that 
 file. But it is impossible, I have the same problem, dhcpd don't want to 
 start.
  
 Any idea?
 
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RE: how do i kill this *)$%(**(#$* thing???

2002-05-19 Thread Chad and Doria Skinner

...
 all of the above are executed as root
 and while i'm running kde the only thing open was
 the konsole
...

Don't know if this applies, but how and when did you become the root user?
If by chance you cd'd into the cdrom and then su'd to root the original bash
shell is in the cdrom directory even if you leave from the root account.
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Gordon Messmer

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Re: Change Default Windowsmanager for Graphic Login?

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 15:04 19 May 2002, CM Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| When ever I use the Graphical Login Screen, it always
| defaults to Enlightenment, and I have removed the rpm.
| Is there anyway to set the default to Sawfish, which
| is the one that I use?

Well, you can make yourself a .xsession file. That will usurp the _entire_
session, so you will need to start at least the window manager and maybe
some clients if you want them there at startupo. Mine says:

#!/bin/sh
. /etc/profile
. $HOME/.profile
exec $HOME/.xinitrc

and your .xinitrc file (your actual X session) might say:

#!/bin/sh
(
  xterm 
  xclock 
  nautilus 
)
exec sawfish

Now you will have _complete control of your X environment, and can do as you
like.

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Re: /var/log

2002-05-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 04:21:52PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 After using the syslog to receive the logs from other servers, the
 files, message, maillog are not automatically generated to message.1,
 message.2 when the files become bigger

Logfiles are rotated on a weekly basis, by default.
You can rotate them more often or on a per-size basis
but you'll need to change /etc/logrotate/syslog to do that.
The logrotate manpage explains it very well.

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Re: dd and CDROM image

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 13:56 19 May 2002, fred pasteck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hi everyone. I'm trying to dd a CDROM to produce an
| ISO image using the following:
| # dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdrom.iso
| This works, and I can mount the resulting ISO using
| the loop device, but there's an I/O error at the end:
| # dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdrom.iso
| dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
| 1000480+0 records in
| 1000480+0 records out

That's probably just hitting end of medium.
Devices don't really look like regular files.

| It's apparently missing a byte or two because the MD5
| sums don't match what they're supposed to be. What is
| the best way to get an image from a CDROM?

Maybe it's too long. If you trim the image to match, exactly, the known size
of the ISO you expect, does the md5sum work?
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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 16:36 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| using RH 7.2
| how can I change JUST the ownerships globally,
| using chown, for all domains (have 100)...
| and have each domain endup having the ownerships of 
| all their files/dirs using THEIR specific user/group ownerships?
| (need to do this all at once)
| 
| i.e.  say i have a domain called
| 
| komp.com
| 
| the user (when ftping) is: com
| and the group is : com
| 
| but I can't have com used for the other domains.

Please pick a more descriptive subject line than question.

I'm (guessing wildly) assuming you're talking about a web server with
virtual hosts? Find where the files are stored and chown them:

cd /docroot/of/virtual/host
chown -R .

Of course, maybe you're talking about something else, like who the
server runs as for a particular domain or something. Please elaborate
of your question.
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Re: What is 'rc'

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 10:55 19 May 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Many of the config file names end in 'rc'.   Anyone know what this naming conv
| ention stands for or how it got started?   

Please press ENTER every 70 chars or so. Thanks.

| Runtime configuration?

Run commands.
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Re: ximian gnome vs. gnome delivered with rh 7.3 and migrating from one distribution to another

2002-05-19 Thread John P Verel

On 05/19/02, 10:13:45AM +0200, Joachim Breuer wrote:
 
 Hm. I've done more than one upgrade (7.0 - 7.1 - 7.2 - 7.3) of
 several Ximianized RH systems, one of them yesterday (7.2 - 7.3). (I
 wanted to verify this procedure again before commenting on it in the
 other message about removing rpms in this thread).
 
 All I usually did was upgrade using the CDs (booting off them,
 choosing upgrade) as usual, where I had to tell RH that it's ok with
 me that it does what it sees fit with overlapping 3rd party
 packages.
 
 After upgrading RH I simply reinstalled ximian using the following
 procedure:
 
 - System-wide X server turned off (telinit 3 or edited initdefault)
 
 - On text console 1 log in as root, start X (using just
 X 
 so it will sit there without any applications - especially no gnome
 ones)
 
 - On text console 2 log in as root, start the ximian installer
 DISPLAY=:0 ./installer-rpm-glibc2.2-i386
 
 - Switching to the X screen (usually console 7) shows the ximian
 installer sort of stuck in the upper left corner without any
 decoration (because no window manager is running); but it is fully
 useable nonetheless. Finish installation as usual.
 
 + Sometimes the installer complains about requireing specific versions
 of some packages (but that is no longer related to the RH upgrade -
 would happen with a full reinstall as well, I guess). When you have
 the machine being installed connected to the internet just removing
 the offending packages is usually sufficient; if it is in the way a
 different version would be installed by ximian anyway ;-)
 
 - After installation has completed, exit X server (for example using
 Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in the now empty graphics screen); go back to
 runlevel 5 (telinit 5) and exit the text consoles.
 
 Worked for me everytime; yesterday even between upgrading RH and
 reinstalling Ximian the gnome desktop was in a useable state (as my
 girlfriend accidentally found out :-)
 
 
 What exactly are the upgrade problems you're experiencing?
Joe,

I commend you on your acumen in carrying out the upgrade/ximianisation,
as you've described.  You are at a different level than I, for sure.

When I attempted the upgrade of my ximianised 7.1 machine, I followed
the Red Hat release notes, which are, as I recall, identical to the
release notes for 7.3.  After upgrade, I went (whilst logged in to a
Ximian Gnome desktop) to the Ximian site to perform a reinstall.  It
simply bombed.  The machine was unusable as a gnome machine.  KDE
worked, however.   So, faced with an unusable gnome environment, I went
through the rpm -e route, as noted earlier in the thread.

Thanks for your note, though, as it is a real technical tour de force
 
 
 So long,
Joe

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Re: IBM Laptops and RH

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 09:41 19 May 2002, Allen Wayne Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I have found a source for used IBM Laptops. I am considering purchasing one 
| for use as a mobile RH computer. If any anyone has experience, plus or minus, 
| with them, I would appreciate any input. They have a variety of models, and I 
| would like to get one that will provide the fastest installation with respect 
| to problems.

I've been pretty happy with RedHat on recentish ( 3 years?) Thinkpads.
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ls command

2002-05-19 Thread Statux

The old default behavior of ls was to list directory contents in
alphabetical order with hidden objects first before regular objects. Now
adays, ls ignores the leading '.' of object names and the case, and just
puts everything in ABC order.

How would one go about changing things back to the old ways?

This system used the old behavior through a few RH upgrades, but it
changed when I did a hardware upgrade and reinstalled RH 7.1 from
scratch.

Any help would be much appreciated :)

Thanks!

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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| geez i thought I elaborated enough
| what is this romper room
| what is it you don't understand...
| the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
| or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?

The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side owners. SO I
presume you're talking about something else.

And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental context
you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.

But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit fuck
off! from others. Have a day,
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Mike Burger

Sorry...he specifically noted Sendmail, and it was obvious, at least to 
me, that he was referring to servers.

On 19 May 2002, Gordon Messmer wrote:

 Yeah, that's what he said.  All of the common mailers (and I mean both
 clients and servers) understand SMTP AUTH.  POP before SMTP is a PITA.
 
 
 On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 16:07, Mike Burger wrote:
  Brother Paiz, I'm afraid you misread or misunderstood my comment.
  
  Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH.  I did not say 
  not all MTAs...mailers = client mail programs.  MTAs = mail servers
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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

redhat stinks...and thats why it's losing ground to mandrake

NOW I know why...with people like you answering questions.

You presume wrong...if i was you, i'd give up answering questions in
this forum...
if you don't understand...what people are saying...
thats what brings on attitudes ...when people who presume to know
something, actually don't.
and answer questions with questions


Cameron Simpson wrote:
 
 On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | geez i thought I elaborated enough
 | what is this romper room
 | what is it you don't understand...
 | the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
 | or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?
 
 The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side owners. SO I
 presume you're talking about something else.
 
 And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental context
 you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.
 
 But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit fuck
 off! from others. Have a day,
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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

another thing...nice language  you use...
suppose children were reading...which i'm sure they are
as a matter of fact, perhaps i should ask them...instead...
they are much more intellignet


Cameron Simpson wrote:
 
 On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | geez i thought I elaborated enough
 | what is this romper room
 | what is it you don't understand...
 | the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
 | or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?
 
 The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side owners. SO I
 presume you're talking about something else.
 
 And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental context
 you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.
 
 But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit fuck
 off! from others. Have a day,
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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On 19-May-2002/19:07 -0400, Mike Burger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Brother Paiz, I'm afraid you misread or misunderstood my comment.

Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH.  I did not say 
not all MTAs...mailers = client mail programs.  MTAs = mail servers.

Outlook, Outlook Express, Netscape, Mozilla, Eudora, The Bat, Pegasus,
and Evolution, all support SMTP AUTH in some form. Pine and mutt users can
setup their local sendmail to use SMTP AUTH with their smarthost.

What mailers do you need to support that don't support SMTP AUTH? Granted,
not all of them are easy to setup, but the support should be there for all
your users. It's possible that some are using older mailers that predate
the SMTP AUTH specification.

Tony
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Re: What is 'rc'

2002-05-19 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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On 19-May-2002/10:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Many of the config file names end in 'rc'.   Anyone know what this naming convention 
stands for or how it got started?   
Runtime configuration?

I typed What does rc mean into Google and got this:

  http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/faq/part1/section-6.html

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Re: how to install gated 3-5-7 on the redhat 7.1?

2002-05-19 Thread weiyunfeng



hi!
 Yes, I notice this 
file(/var/run/gated.pid)and the pid inside it, they are all right! I always 
start gated by gdc tool, but not found the process id by "ps -e".when I shutdown 
the gated,the system shows "no such process gated", using the default 
script /etc/rc.d/init.d/gated.
there are some questions:
1) when the gated is runing, we cann't see it by "ps 
-e",can we?
2) checking for /var/run/gated.pid is enough?
3) how can we do to shutdown gated?

thanks for reply!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Huter.Liu 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: how to install gated 3-5-7 on 
  the redhat 7.1?
  
  
  hi!
   I'm running gated too,you should check the file:
  [root@linux run]# pwd/var/run[root@linux run]# cat 
  gated.pid7874and you can use gdc tool.
  
  hello
  I am a linux fan.
  Recently I want to install gated(v3.5.7) on my system, 
  unfortunately, I am failed.
  After I run gatedby /etc/rc.d/init.d/gated 
  start to start gated deamon, Ican't find the gated process 
  byps -e, It'skilled with something wrong. I look over the 
  log file(/var/log/messages), andfind "gated start 
  successful" and nothing.Now It is mazy!
  The follow is my gated.conf:
  # test for gated 
  rip yes;
  I install the redhat 7.1 full, and not recompile the 
  kernel.
  thanks


Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread ABrady

On Sun, 19 May 2002 20:15:10 -0400
Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 redhat stinks...and thats why it's losing ground to mandrake
 
 NOW I know why...with people like you answering questions.
 
 You presume wrong...if i was you, i'd give up answering questions in
 this forum...
 if you don't understand...what people are saying...
 thats what brings on attitudes ...when people who presume to know
 something, actually don't.
 and answer questions with questions

Geez!! Why did I miss out on the beginning of this?

Not knowing what transpired, only reading what was said and the response
to it, also knowing enough about one of the individuals involved, I'd
have to say you need an awful attitude adjustment!

You get an attitude (romper room what is it you don't understand?
and so forth - reread it, I kept it all here), then you get an even
worse one when you get hit back for being a jerk in the first place!
Now, you act as though you were insulted without provocation, when even
in your own quoted material, you appear to be clearly the instigator!!
Then you add insult to injury by slamming someone else for their
response to your own childish attacks!!??!!

Ahhh. I _do_ recall the beginning of the thread. You want to know
something, so you start with a really enlightening subject line. That's
sure gonna get boatloads of help there, pal!! To be honest I read the
first sentence or so of the email because I was wondering what type of
total dufus or inexperienced emailer had sent it. I had no intention of
any response until the subject line became something that actually had
to do with the need. Little did I know that your own juvenile attitude
would intervene and lead to me responding without the requisite change
anyway.

I'd say that if the grass is greener somewhere else, go piss them off
for awhile. Nobody needs to take this kinda crap off of some
sanctimonious, bubble-headed nitwit. Mandrake can have you until
_they're_ fed up, as far as I'm concerned!!

 Cameron Simpson wrote:
  
  On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  | geez i thought I elaborated enough
  | what is this romper room
  | what is it you don't understand...
  | the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
  | or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?
  
  The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side
  owners. SO I presume you're talking about something else.
  
  And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental
  context you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.
  
  But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit
  fuck off! from others. Have a day,
  --
  Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
  
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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Jonathan M. Slivko

On Sun, 19 May 2002, ABrady wrote:

 Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:22:09 -0500
 From: ABrady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: question

 On Sun, 19 May 2002 20:15:10 -0400
 Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  redhat stinks...and thats why it's losing ground to mandrake
 
  NOW I know why...with people like you answering questions.
 
  You presume wrong...if i was you, i'd give up answering questions in
  this forum...
  if you don't understand...what people are saying...
  thats what brings on attitudes ...when people who presume to know
  something, actually don't.
  and answer questions with questions

 Geez!! Why did I miss out on the beginning of this?

 Not knowing what transpired, only reading what was said and the response
 to it, also knowing enough about one of the individuals involved, I'd
 have to say you need an awful attitude adjustment!

 You get an attitude (romper room what is it you don't understand?
 and so forth - reread it, I kept it all here), then you get an even
 worse one when you get hit back for being a jerk in the first place!
 Now, you act as though you were insulted without provocation, when even
 in your own quoted material, you appear to be clearly the instigator!!
 Then you add insult to injury by slamming someone else for their
 response to your own childish attacks!!??!!

 Ahhh. I _do_ recall the beginning of the thread. You want to know
 something, so you start with a really enlightening subject line. That's
 sure gonna get boatloads of help there, pal!! To be honest I read the
 first sentence or so of the email because I was wondering what type of
 total dufus or inexperienced emailer had sent it. I had no intention of
 any response until the subject line became something that actually had
 to do with the need. Little did I know that your own juvenile attitude
 would intervene and lead to me responding without the requisite change
 anyway.

 I'd say that if the grass is greener somewhere else, go piss them off
 for awhile. Nobody needs to take this kinda crap off of some
 sanctimonious, bubble-headed nitwit. Mandrake can have you until
 _they're_ fed up, as far as I'm concerned!!

  Cameron Simpson wrote:
  
   On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   | geez i thought I elaborated enough
   | what is this romper room
   | what is it you don't understand...
   | the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
   | or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?
  
   The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side
   owners. SO I presume you're talking about something else.
  
   And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental
   context you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.
  
   But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit
   fuck off! from others. Have a day,
   --
   Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
  
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Brady,

You are absolutely right. However, it would appear that the original
poster is trying to run an ISP using CPanel and Red Hat as his server
platform. If you look on the page that the e-mail came from
(www.myispserver.net), you will see that he's offering 50 _MB_ of transfer
per month. Well, I hate to say it, but the poster needs to take a few
buisness courses as well as a few technical courses to be able to
successfully run this operation, or be prepared to hire a full time staff
of systems administrators to do all of the work for him.

-- Jonathan

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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

SAME GOES FOR YOU , buddy...you're just as bright as the other person...
what a joke...wonderful people on this list...
you should take teachings from someone that does know about being a
human being...
like...this guy, below


Would you be interested in getting a managed solution from me for your
CPanel server? I have quite a bit of experience in CPanel administration
as well as with Red Hat (I am an RHCE). If your interested, e-mail me
back. Thanks.

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ABrady wrote:
 
 On Sun, 19 May 2002 20:15:10 -0400
 Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  redhat stinks...and thats why it's losing ground to mandrake
 
  NOW I know why...with people like you answering questions.
 
  You presume wrong...if i was you, i'd give up answering questions in
  this forum...
  if you don't understand...what people are saying...
  thats what brings on attitudes ...when people who presume to know
  something, actually don't.
  and answer questions with questions
 
 Geez!! Why did I miss out on the beginning of this?
 
 Not knowing what transpired, only reading what was said and the response
 to it, also knowing enough about one of the individuals involved, I'd
 have to say you need an awful attitude adjustment!
 
 You get an attitude (romper room what is it you don't understand?
 and so forth - reread it, I kept it all here), then you get an even
 worse one when you get hit back for being a jerk in the first place!
 Now, you act as though you were insulted without provocation, when even
 in your own quoted material, you appear to be clearly the instigator!!
 Then you add insult to injury by slamming someone else for their
 response to your own childish attacks!!??!!
 
 Ahhh. I _do_ recall the beginning of the thread. You want to know
 something, so you start with a really enlightening subject line. That's
 sure gonna get boatloads of help there, pal!! To be honest I read the
 first sentence or so of the email because I was wondering what type of
 total dufus or inexperienced emailer had sent it. I had no intention of
 any response until the subject line became something that actually had
 to do with the need. Little did I know that your own juvenile attitude
 would intervene and lead to me responding without the requisite change
 anyway.
 
 I'd say that if the grass is greener somewhere else, go piss them off
 for awhile. Nobody needs to take this kinda crap off of some
 sanctimonious, bubble-headed nitwit. Mandrake can have you until
 _they're_ fed up, as far as I'm concerned!!
 
  Cameron Simpson wrote:
  
   On 20:02 19 May 2002, Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   | geez i thought I elaborated enough
   | what is this romper room
   | what is it you don't understand...
   | the word CHANGE?  or the word GLOBALLY
   | or perhaps it's the word, ownerships?
  
   The word domain. In normal parlance they don't have UNIX side
   owners. SO I presume you're talking about something else.
  
   And yes, you DO have to spell everything out. There's lots of mental
   context you have what isn't wisible on the other side of the planet.
  
   But given your attitude, you can probably just expect an implicit
   fuck off! from others. Have a day,
   --
   Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
  
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Re: [RH List] Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Jonathan M. Slivko wrote:

 (www.myispserver.net), you will see that he's offering 50 _MB_ of transfer
 per month.

Eesh, I run that in a few minutes time...  *smirk*

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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread jmraz


On Sun, 19 May 2002, Admin wrote:

 SAME GOES FOR YOU , buddy...you're just as bright as the other person...
 what a joke...wonderful people on this list...
 you should take teachings from someone that does know about being a
 human being...
 like...this guy, below

* Stop. If you wish to continue pissing on each other, do it offlist.

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Re: Making boot.img floppy

2002-05-19 Thread Statux

rawrite and dd do the same thing in this application. The image will fit
on a 1.44MB floppy. All the floppy images are the exact size of a standard
floppy.

dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0

or

dd if=boot.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k count=1

The second command will write the first 1.44MB out, but since the image is
supposed to be 1.44MB anyway, the last 2 options are redundant.

On Sun, 19 May 2002, Eddie Strohmier wrote:


 Hello all:

 I need to make a boot floppy to install RH 7.3 on my machine as I can
 not boot from CD. I am finding the boot.img to large to fit on a
 standard 1.44 floppy. Is there a way around this? Do I need a larger
 floppy disk? When I have installed 6.2 in the past I never had a problem
 with floppy size but I guess that boot.img is getting larger. I was
 using rawrite.exe from the redhat cd on an old Windoze 98 machine via
 dos emulation. If I were to use dd what is the format of that command to
 place that file on a floppy. I still wonder of using dd would allow the
 boot.img to fit on a 1.44 floppy.

 Thanks in Advance,


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Re: /var/log

2002-05-19 Thread Statux

the suffixing looks like a logrotate thing :)

On Sun, 19 May 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all

 I am using RH 7.2

 After using the syslog to receive the logs from other servers, the
 files, message, maillog are not automatically generated to message.1,
 message.2 when the files become bigger

 How can I make it same as before.

 Thank you



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Re: Re: how to install gated 3-5-7 on the redhat 7.1?

2002-05-19 Thread Huter.Liu

hi,weiyunfeng!
I run gated,and everything is OK.
1) when the gated is runing, we cann't see it by ps -e, can we?
[root@linux root]# cat /var/run/gated.pid
7874
[root@linux root]# ps -e |grep gate
 7874 ?00:00:03 gated
2) checking for /var/run/gated.pid is enough?
I think is enough,when I shutdown the gated:
[root@linux root]# /etc/init.d/gated stop
Stopping gated [  OK  ]
[root@linux root]# ls /var/run/gate*
/var/run/gated.version
3) how can we do to shutdown gated?
You can shut it down by /etc/init.d/gated stop.
BTW,are you from china??hehe,contact me.QQ:53723733
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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Bret Hughes

On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 20:54, Admin wrote:
 no...it's not myispserver.net
 it's myispnet.net
 
 and i'm not a ISP
 just a reseller of webspace
 
 and i know quite a bit, about systems admin...not fully, but enough to
 get
 by with...so i don't need alot of themthankyou .
 
 i used to use mandrake...at home...mandrake is much easier...
 redhat (although considered the standard,) stinks...

I have been reading this list for years and have NEVER experienced such
blatent rudeness from any one, let alone someone who is asking for
help.   If you want to pick a fight go somewhere else we are into
solutions on this list. You attacked one of the more respected and
knowledgable posters on this or any other list I subscribe to.  I hope
you get your answer and leave or on the other hand just leave.  

I am sorry that someone pissed in your post toasties this morning but I
can;t imagine that you will succeed in life with such an attitude.  If
your behavior is typical for you, I am really sorry your must be one
seriously unhappy person.

Please take your questions and your attitude to someone who cares, if
you can find them.

Bret



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Re: ls command

2002-05-19 Thread Bret Hughes

On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 19:02, Statux wrote:
 The old default behavior of ls was to list directory contents in
 alphabetical order with hidden objects first before regular objects. Now
 adays, ls ignores the leading '.' of object names and the case, and just
 puts everything in ABC order.
 
 How would one go about changing things back to the old ways?
 
 This system used the old behavior through a few RH upgrades, but it
 changed when I did a hardware upgrade and reinstalled RH 7.1 from
 scratch.
 
 Any help would be much appreciated :)
 

export LC_COLLATE=C

works for me.  Been this way since 7.x AFAIK.  Windows guys love it I
hate it.

Bret



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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

you don't even know what your talking about...mind your own
businessstay out of it

what a bunch of snobs ...incredible
snobs respects snobs...yes I agree


Bret Hughes wrote:
 
 On Sun, 2002-05-19 at 20:54, Admin wrote:
  no...it's not myispserver.net
  it's myispnet.net
 
  and i'm not a ISP
  just a reseller of webspace
 
  and i know quite a bit, about systems admin...not fully, but enough to
  get
  by with...so i don't need alot of themthankyou .
 
  i used to use mandrake...at home...mandrake is much easier...
  redhat (although considered the standard,) stinks...
 
 I have been reading this list for years and have NEVER experienced such
 blatent rudeness from any one, let alone someone who is asking for
 help.   If you want to pick a fight go somewhere else we are into
 solutions on this list. You attacked one of the more respected and
 knowledgable posters on this or any other list I subscribe to.  I hope
 you get your answer and leave or on the other hand just leave.
 
 I am sorry that someone pissed in your post toasties this morning but I
 can;t imagine that you will succeed in life with such an attitude.  If
 your behavior is typical for you, I am really sorry your must be one
 seriously unhappy person.
 
 Please take your questions and your attitude to someone who cares, if
 you can find them.
 
 Bret
 
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Re: [RH List] Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner

Admin wrote:

 what a bunch of snobs ...incredible
 snobs respects snobs...yes I agree

Folks, stop feeding the monster.  It's obvious he's not interested in help, but is 
here merely to complain.  Let 'em be.

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Re: [RH List] Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread sign_bldr

You are correct Ashley..

 You would think he could spend more time read a book on HomeSite4.5
( by the look of that site)




- Original Message -
From: Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [RH List] Re: question


 Admin wrote:

  what a bunch of snobs ...incredible
  snobs respects snobs...yes I agree

 Folks, stop feeding the monster.  It's obvious he's not interested in
help, but is here merely to complain.  Let 'em be.

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 H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner
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   Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130
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Re: [RH List] question

2002-05-19 Thread Hal Burgiss

On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 08:27:29PM -0600, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
 Admin wrote:
 
  what a bunch of snobs ...incredible
  snobs respects snobs...yes I agree
 
 Folks, stop feeding the monster.  It's obvious he's not interested
 in help, but is here merely to complain.  Let 'em be.

It's really too pitiful to even muster up a decent flame over ... *sigh*.

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RE: [RH List] Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread Admin

ha...what do you think i used...to create that site moron...
what a joke...it's as I suspectedyou people know absolutley nothing...
thanks for confirming...

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of sign_bldr
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RH List] Re: question


You are correct Ashley..

 You would think he could spend more time read a book on HomeSite4.5
( by the look of that site)




- Original Message -
From: Ashley M. Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [RH List] Re: question


 Admin wrote:

  what a bunch of snobs ...incredible
  snobs respects snobs...yes I agree

 Folks, stop feeding the monster.  It's obvious he's not interested in
help, but is here merely to complain.  Let 'em be.

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 H | Life is the art of drawing without an eraser. - John Gardner
   +
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   Director of Internet Operations / SysAdmin. 800.441.3873 x130
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RE: Making boot.img floppy

2002-05-19 Thread Eddie Strohmier


Michael  Statux thanks so much. Sorry about that double post as I used
my unsubscribed e-mail address initially then used the one I knew I
subscribed with long ago. Who would have known that my unsubscribed
e-mail address would have shown up 3 hours later. Oh well, Thanks again.


Eddie Strohmier




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Re: IBM Laptops and RH

2002-05-19 Thread Jason Adams

Just installed 7.3 on an IBM ThinkPad A30 its a p3 933 wit 512Megs ram and 
20gig drive. instaled with no problems at all using it right now even :)


Jason


On May 19, 2002 08:01 pm, Cameron Simpson wrote:
 On 09:41 19 May 2002, Allen Wayne Best [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | I have found a source for used IBM Laptops. I am considering purchasing
 | one for use as a mobile RH computer. If any anyone has experience, plus
 | or minus, with them, I would appreciate any input. They have a variety of
 | models, and I would like to get one that will provide the fastest
 | installation with respect to problems.

 I've been pretty happy with RedHat on recentish ( 3 years?) Thinkpads.



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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread ABrady

On Mon, 20 May 2002 01:30:18 + (UTC)

 Brady,
 
 You are absolutely right. However, it would appear that the original
 poster is trying to run an ISP using CPanel and Red Hat as his server
 platform. If you look on the page that the e-mail came from
 (www.myispserver.net), you will see that he's offering 50 _MB_ of
 transfer per month. Well, I hate to say it, but the poster needs to
 take a few buisness courses as well as a few technical courses to be
 able to successfully run this operation, or be prepared to hire a full
 time staff of systems administrators to do all of the work for him.
 
 -- Jonathan

Must've taken the cue and decided he needs to learn a few things. Either
that or his dynamic IP changed and the registration site hasn't gotten
the update yet. I get an error saying myispserver.net can't be found.
Most likely trying to provide dialup through him to a cable connection
anyway.

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Procmail question

2002-05-19 Thread Bret Hughes

shouldn't this do the trick?
 
I have never actually done this before.  Never been so disgusted before
either.


:0:
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/dev/null


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SSH and dialout

2002-05-19 Thread Paul M Foster

I've got a RH 6.2 server with a modem running pppd. The pppd is set to
dial out when an internet connection is needed by someone on the LAN. I
can connect to the server via SSH from a machine on the LAN, but when I
do, it dials out, which I don't want it to do. Hopefully, this isn't a
quirk of SSH. I imagine this has something to do with the way the name
recognition and such is set up. I'm not running DHCP or DNS on this
machine. It has a hosts file that identifies all the machines on the
LAN. Its resolv.conf specifies the internet nameservers of my ISP, as in
nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX. Can someone with more knowledge of this area
than I have assist in helping me set up this machine so that SSH doesn't
cause a dialout, but the machine can still be used as I described above?

Paul



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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread ABrady

On Sun, 19 May 2002 21:38:58 -0400
Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SAME GOES FOR YOU , buddy...you're just as bright as the other
 person... what a joke...wonderful people on this list...
 you should take teachings from someone that does know about being a
 human being...
 like...this guy, below

Thank you. You've given me the opportunity to use an option of Sylpheed
that I've not used before: the automatic creation of a rule to delete
you. For filtering to folders it's been indispensible. Should work
wonders in this case, too.

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Re: question

2002-05-19 Thread sign_bldr

WOW what a clueless fool.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: question


 On Sun, 19 May 2002 21:38:58 -0400
 Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  SAME GOES FOR YOU , buddy...you're just as bright as the other
  person... what a joke...wonderful people on this list...
  you should take teachings from someone that does know about being a
  human being...
  like...this guy, below
 
 Thank you. You've given me the opportunity to use an option of Sylpheed
 that I've not used before: the automatic creation of a rule to delete
 you. For filtering to folders it's been indispensible. Should work
 wonders in this case, too.
 
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 ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does.
 
 
 
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Re: POP before SMTP

2002-05-19 Thread Steve Lee

my 2 cents.  

smtp auth is cool, however, users are stupid and can't 
set it up.  My clients can't even find this in their outlook,
netscape that i had to go back to pop before smtp.




On Sun, 19 May 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

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 Not all mailers understand or can make use of SMTP AUTH.  I did not say 
 not all MTAs...mailers = client mail programs.  MTAs = mail servers.
 
 Outlook, Outlook Express, Netscape, Mozilla, Eudora, The Bat, Pegasus,
 and Evolution, all support SMTP AUTH in some form. Pine and mutt users can
 setup their local sendmail to use SMTP AUTH with their smarthost.
 
 What mailers do you need to support that don't support SMTP AUTH? Granted,
 not all of them are easy to setup, but the support should be there for all
 your users. It's possible that some are using older mailers that predate
 the SMTP AUTH specification.
 
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RE: question

2002-05-19 Thread Chad and Doria Skinner

This sounds to me like a job for chown, find and xargs. You should be able
to find all of the files owned by a specific user and then pipe them to
xargs with the proper chown command as an argument.

Can you explain why you want to do this? From what I understand you have a
user com and you want to change the ownership of the files to someone else
say fred. I don't believe you really need to change the ownership of the
files to change the username. I would think you could change the username in
the password and shadow files or just add a user with the same userid.  As I
understand it the file ownership is determined by the userid number not the
username so associating a new name to the same number should work.

Now if you are trying to change the files for a web domain...this is a
different animal and is has nothing to do with Redhat, but rather the linux
filesystem. You'll have to change the ownership recursively for each domain.

As for your comments to the others on this list, many of whom have been a
great benefit to the community, you have the right to unsubscribe! They were
trying to better understand your question so they could give you a more
sufficient or appropriate answer. Saying Redhat sucks because you can't
figure out how to change the ownership of files on a LINUX filesystem makes
no since to me. The fundamentals are all the same despite the distribution.
Please take a moment to breath and let people help rather than blowing up at
them after all romper room was an educational show for preschoolers not a
community support system where understanding the problem in detail is
important.

 using RH 7.2

 how can I change JUST the ownerships globally,
 using chown, for all domains (have 100)...
 and have each domain endup having the ownerships of
 all their files/dirs using THEIR specific user/group ownerships?
 (need to do this all at once)

 i.e.  say i have a domain called

 komp.com

 the user (when ftping) is: com
 and the group is : com

 but I can't have com used for the other domains.



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RH vs. LILO

2002-05-19 Thread Eric Kadison



Hi 
all,

Can someone help me 
figure out how to get my RH 7.2 back? I've used a LILO boot diskette since 
installing RH on my dual boot RH 7.2 / Win 98 system. I recently used 
Partition Magic to increase the size of my RH / partition and now the boot 
diskette won't work. I guess it knew the partition layout. My RH 
partitions are all Ext2, not Ext3 type.

Now I need to figure 
out how to boot something that will allow me to get back into RH and I haven't a 
clue as to what.

I might install PM's 
boot loader to give me a permanent solution. Is this a 
viablesolution? I have PM 5.0. I've not been successful with 
GRUB -- it 
got an exception during the RH 7.2install.I backed off to 
LILO, But it would not install on the hdd -- cylinder no  1024. 
System is an Athlon 850, 256 MB RAM, 13 GB IBM HDD (ATA66) using an Via-based 
MB.

TIA,
Eric