smp kernel

2003-03-17 Thread d deepak
Hi all,
which is the most stable smp kernel ? and on which
version of RH ?

thnaks in advance
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Newt/Slang and non VGA tty's.

2003-03-17 Thread James Olin Oden
Hi All,

I have been using libnewt to build various system administration utitilities,
and things were working pretty good until I went to Phoebe.  Where I have
problems is when I run the programs in a non-vga tty (such as an ssh sessioin
or accross a serial port).  I found an interesting work around, in that 
if I set my TERM var to vt400-8 it seems to give me a fairly nice gracefully
degraded view, but not perfect.

My questions are two fold:

1) Does anyone on the list have any experience with libnewt on a non
   vga tty and what did you do to get it to look nice?
2) What is libnewt (really slang) supposed to work on?  Is it only
   really supposed to look good on VGA or is there some preferential
   terminal type?
3) Lastly, I actually get different results when I run my program as
   a users shell as opposed to running it from the shell.  What 
   might be up with this?

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Re: Newt/Slang and non VGA tty's.

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
James Olin Oden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
 Hi All,
 
 I have been using libnewt to build various system administration utitilities,
 and things were working pretty good until I went to Phoebe.  Where I have
 problems is when I run the programs in a non-vga tty (such as an ssh sessioin
 or accross a serial port).  I found an interesting work around, in that 
 if I set my TERM var to vt400-8 it seems to give me a fairly nice gracefully
 degraded view, but not perfect.

What is your locale set to?

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Re: Newt/Slang and non VGA tty's.

2003-03-17 Thread Balint Cristian
On Monday 17 March 2003 22:20, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 James Olin Oden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
  Hi All,
 
  I have been using libnewt to build various system administration
  utitilities, and things were working pretty good until I went to Phoebe. 
  Where I have problems is when I run the programs in a non-vga tty (such
  as an ssh sessioin or accross a serial port).  I found an interesting
  work around, in that if I set my TERM var to vt400-8 it seems to give me
  a fairly nice gracefully degraded view, but not perfect.

 What is your locale set to?

Me too has that proBlem !

I thing ncurses is involved too.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
SUPPORTED=en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/keyboard
KEYBOARDTYPE=pc
KEYTABLE=us

even latest RAWHIDE carry the same proBem 

Everywhere I ssh than it gives me a garBaged terminal ..
It is pretty enough to start an mc remotely and the garBage appears 
or just make menuconfig remotely and appear too more uglyer ...

I can copy paste an screenshot ...

With RH 7.3 there was no ProBlem !

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Re: Newt/Slang and non VGA tty's.

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Nottingham
Balint Cristian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
 LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 SUPPORTED=en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en
 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# cat /etc/sysconfig/keyboard
 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc
 KEYTABLE=us
 
 even latest RAWHIDE carry the same proBem 
 
 Everywhere I ssh than it gives me a garBaged terminal ..
 It is pretty enough to start an mc remotely and the garBage appears 
 or just make menuconfig remotely and appear too more uglyer ...

slang and ncurses in 7.3 don't support unicode. If you run
programs using those in a unicode locale, you'll have issues.
(ncurses in 8.0 still has problems in unicode, FWIW.)

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Re: Newt/Slang and non VGA tty's.

2003-03-17 Thread Tarhon-Onu Victor
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Bill Nottingham wrote:

 slang and ncurses in 7.3 don't support unicode. If you run
 programs using those in a unicode locale, you'll have issues.
 (ncurses in 8.0 still has problems in unicode, FWIW.)

If I remember well this problem occured somewhere between
rawhide-2002-08-30 and redhat-7.3.9[34] (limbo) when probably unicode 
support was added to ncusrses and slang packages.

Anyway the problem is solvable (of course). My i18n config file
looks like this:

09:15:42 blackblue (Mituc):~cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG=en_US
# SUPPORTED=en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en
SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16

After you modify /etc/sysconfig/i18n just do 
. /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and your console will look fine again!:)

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AW: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Fuchs Bernhard
For me the problem is simple! We are all free online examiner. some of us
pay for that stuff...
rh makes the same like m$, ok, m$ is to selling in the world
put lots and lots of features in the distro and every month something new,
but no time to review the source code!
free bsd did it, no development just security issues and debug... may rh
shoul'd do something like this...


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Thousands of patches and kludges later RH8 is functional but well behind
the curve.  Anyone know if/when RedHat intends to release a
significantly upgraded version?  (I am sick of wasting time trying to
get things to work, or fixing things the updates break.)

Feature Wish List:

1.  Integrated xsane with complete feature support for common scanners,
including the Memorex MEM48U.

2.  Integrated E-mail client that includes at least the features of
MSIE.  (Beonex  Galeon fall short, e.g. neither auto-completes
addresses and neither of the address books function reliably.)

3.  Integrated dial-up/modem monitor that accurately displays connect,
data flow, and other information.  (None of the apps I have tried work
properly.  e.g. the icon shows up but the status lights are unreadable
and the pop-up fails -- so no info.)

4.  Integrated image and video display apps.  Have GIMP and GNOME
running, hacked in MTV for MPEGS, but nothing working for AVI, etc.
Quite frankly it seems absurd to have to chase down all of this stuff
for a product I bought (yes, I bought it) that was represented as a
complete M$ Windows alternative.

5.  There is more but I have either hacked-in apps, learned to expect a 
lesser product for the sake of not using M$, or given up expecting
certain things to work for the same reason.  (Oh, StarOffice 6.0, paid
for that as well, still doesn't integrate properly -- not sure if I
should blame Sun or RedHat but sure know I should not have to spend
hours getting two commercial Linux products to talk to each other! 
That's why I moved to RH8 from Debian.)

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XMMS stutters constantly

2003-03-17 Thread Kevin Krumwiede
Previously I was running Mandrake 8, but I lost a hard drive and decided
to install RH8 on the new one.  XMMS used to play smoothly even under
heavy load, but now it skips at the slightest thing, like scrolling a
modest amount of text, or even just moving a window.

Since the hardware and software were changed at the same time, I have no
idea where to being looking.  Any suggestions?

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Re: XMMS stutters constantly

2003-03-17 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Kevin Krumwiede wrote:

 Previously I was running Mandrake 8, but I lost a hard drive and decided
 to install RH8 on the new one.  XMMS used to play smoothly even under
 heavy load, but now it skips at the slightest thing, like scrolling a
 modest amount of text, or even just moving a window.



To me it sounds like your hard disk isn't working as fast as it can.
Assuming that you are using /dev/hda as your disk try doing hdparm -c 1
-d 1 /dev/hda and see if that helps

Rgds

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Re: XMMS stutters constantly

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 19:31, Kevin Krumwiede wrote:
 Previously I was running Mandrake 8, but I lost a hard drive and decided
 to install RH8 on the new one.  XMMS used to play smoothly even under
 heavy load, but now it skips at the slightest thing, like scrolling a
 modest amount of text, or even just moving a window.
 
 Since the hardware and software were changed at the same time, I have no
 idea where to being looking.  Any suggestions?
 
 Krum

You might want to set some params for your HD's using hdparm - that
is, if it's installed. If not, it's on the CD's and you can find it in
the Software Installer.

By optimising the performance of your drives (use DMA and PIO and
transfer modes as you can) you will ensure a smoother experience with
XMMS or any other media player.

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RE: Xinerama

2003-03-17 Thread Jim Hale
Thanks Steven. :)

Went ahead and tried that too - no go - it still wants to lock up right
after you logout before you get back to the Login Screen. :/

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The rumor mill says that new Matrox drivers may be released Today.
Don't know for sure but I am pretty sure they will be out within the
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Re: Automatically Mounting floppy with different types offormats

2003-03-17 Thread Jerome Dsilva
Tom
Thanks . I tried moving the vfat to the top of the list , but the same
error message appears ..
Any clues?

Thanks
Jerome

 Tom Pollerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/14/03 7:52:53 PM

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 03:53:19 -0700
Jerome Dsilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Tom .. There is entry for vfat in /etc/filesystems ..
 Any more clues please?..
 
 Thanks
 Jerome
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/14/03 12:12:06 PM 
 On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:13:59 -0700
 Jerome Dsilva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi
  I am having the option set to auto in the /etc/fstab for
  /dev/fd0. When I access the floppy formatted with ext2 , it works
  , but when I access the floppy formatted with vfat it doesn't
  mount .. Can anyone let me know what is the problem or does
  automatically mounting types of filesystem formats from floppy not
  supported in Redhat.
  I am able to manually mount through -t vfat option.
 
The 'mount' command doesn't  automatically recognize vfat or
msdos
 filesytems, but does ext2; see:
 
  man mount
 
But, if you have an /etc/filesystems file, 'mount' will read the
 filesystem types listed from there and try to correctly decipher
 if what you're trying to mount is one of those. 
It seems to work well enough on my RH 7.0 machine.
My /etc/filesystems file:
 
   ext2
   nodev proc
   nodev devpts
   iso9660
   vfat
   hfs
 
Check out the documentation for details.
 
 
Best,
 
Tom
 
   
   You might try moving 'vfat' to the top of the list of filesystem
types in /etc/filesystems; before iso9660 or ext2. The 'mount' docs do
mention that the order may make a difference.
   I don't use vfat32 on my Windows machines, but rather vfat16 or
msdos, so can't verify that mount automatically works with both the 16
and 32 types.

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problems with rh8

2003-03-17 Thread Daniel Tan
hi all,
encountered quite a few things with rh8
really can't figure out that's why need to post to the list again

problem 1) tried using neat to configure certain things, get error msg once
click on ok or apply. can't save any changes

error msg:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/sbin/neat, line 496, in on_applyButton_clicked
self.save()
  File /usr/sbin/neat, line 319, in save
self.saveDevices()
  File /usr/sbin/neat, line 326, in saveDevices
devicelist.save()
  File
/usr/sbin/../share/redhat-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDeviceList.py, line
145, in save
os.write(fp2, ipc.network()+'/'+ipc.prefix()+ via +route.Gateway+\n)
  File /usr/sbin/../share/redhat-config-network/netconfpkg/ipcalc.py, line
60, in network
return re.match(NETWORK=(\S+), text).groups()[0]
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groups'

problem 2) securitylevel or gnome-lokkit does not seems to be working. after
setting some rules in securitylevel, i click on it again then i got back the
setting to high which i had change. why is it not saving anything i change?


problem 3) i am getting these errors after i change the sendmail.cf file
with
sendmail.mc
was previously using it on rh 7.0 machine with slightly older sendmail.cf
but now using rh 8.0 with the latest sendmail package 8.12.8

sendmail not able to read old config from old sendmail.mc file

error msg:
Shutting down sendmail: _[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]
Shutting down sm-client: _[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]
Starting sendmail: 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 848: invalid
rewrite line R_+ shopnsave.com.sg.external. _#esmtp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_:_1shopnsave.com.sg. (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1633: invalid rewrite line R_* _: _1
_| _3 _f (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1634: invalid rewrite line R_* _|
_ OK is always ok (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1635: invalid rewrite line R_* _|_=%
_=w. _:_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1636: invalid rewrite line R_* _|_=%
_:_1 luser? (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1637: invalid rewrite line R_* _|_*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] someone else (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1638: invalid rewrite line R_*
_:_3_1 check recipient (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1639: invalid rewrite line R_+_=w.
_ OK local? ok (tab expected)
554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 1640: invalid rewrite line R_+_+
_#error _ 5.1.8 _: 551 sorry luser is restricted from sending external
mail (tab expected)
_[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]
Starting sm-client: can not chdir(/var/spool/clientmqueue/): Permission
denied
Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser.
_[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]


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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:44:05PM -0500, Colburn wrote:
 That's encouraging.  Sounds like M$ ... or the government ... customers 
[...]

No it doesn't. RH has *never* published release dates. At least not in
the time between 4.1 and now. MS *always* publishes release dates and
*misses* them royally. That's quite different. RH - in this regard -
doesn't make promises it can't keep, which I think is a *good* thing.
It's bad enough that they feel obliged to release buggy products by
market pressure (at least that's the benevolent explanation I can come
up with...). I'm beginning to wonder where the times are were things
were either released when ready (isn't Linus still handling this -
or at least trying to?) or released early and released often. Both
have their merits.

Cheerio,

Thomas (who still uses RH 7.3 for a reason...)
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Re: problems with rh8

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:50:23 +0800, Daniel Tan wrote:

 hi all,
 encountered quite a few things with rh8
 really can't figure out that's why need to post to the list again

Consider subscribing to psyche-list which is a mailing-list
specifically for Red Hat Linux 8.0:

  https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/psyche-list

 problem 1) tried using neat to configure certain things, get error msg once
 click on ok or apply. can't save any changes
 
 error msg:
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/sbin/neat, line 496, in on_applyButton_clicked
 self.save()
   File /usr/sbin/neat, line 319, in save
 self.saveDevices()
   File /usr/sbin/neat, line 326, in saveDevices
 devicelist.save()
   File
 /usr/sbin/../share/redhat-config-network/netconfpkg/NCDeviceList.py, line
 145, in save
 os.write(fp2, ipc.network()+'/'+ipc.prefix()+ via +route.Gateway+\n)
   File /usr/sbin/../share/redhat-config-network/netconfpkg/ipcalc.py, line
 60, in network
 return re.match(NETWORK=(\S+), text).groups()[0]
 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'groups'

Query https://bugzilla.redhat.com on all known (including old) bugs
in redhat-config-network. See whether it is a known bug. Else submit
a bug report. Also, some of the comments on bug reports contain a
link to a newer version made for testing, such as the one in this
directory:

ftp://people.redhat.com/harald/redhat-config-network/1.1.97-1-RH8.0/noarch

 problem 2) securitylevel or gnome-lokkit does not seems to be working. after
 setting some rules in securitylevel, i click on it again then i got back the
 setting to high which i had change. why is it not saving anything i change?

It *is* saving your changes, see /etc/sysconfig/iptables where you
can verify it. Upon restart it just starts with high as a default
because it does not recognize the current configuration.

 problem 3) i am getting these errors after i change the sendmail.cf file
 with sendmail.mc
 was previously using it on rh 7.0 machine with slightly older sendmail.cf
 but now using rh 8.0 with the latest sendmail package 8.12.8
 
 sendmail not able to read old config from old sendmail.mc file
 
 error msg:
 Shutting down sendmail: _[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]
 Shutting down sm-client: _[60G[_[0;31mFAILED_[0;39m]
 Starting sendmail: 554 5.0.0 /etc/mail/sendmail.cf: line 848: invalid
 rewrite line R_+ @shopnsave.com.sg.external. _#esmtp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 _:_1@shopnsave.com.sg. (tab expected)

- -snip-

Did you really re-create the sendmail.cf from your sendmail.mc?

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Re: grub can boot from the grub.conf (Michael Schwendt)

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 9:21:50 +0800, winglion wrote:

 Sorry that I mixed the device name of grub and linux!
 this is the partition tabel I got,using parted command:
 Disk geometry for /dev/hdb: 0.000-38166.679 megabytes

 Disk label type: msdos
 MinorStart   End Type  Filesystem  Flags
 1  0.031   9546.438  primary   FAT boot, lba
 2   9546.438  38162.219  extended  lba
 5   9546.500  14543.217  logical   ext3
 6  14543.249  15539.436  logical   linux-swap  
 7  15539.467  16041.467  logical   ext3
 8  16041.498  19092.875  logical   FAT 
 9  19092.907  28639.313  logical   FAT 
 10 28639.345  38162.219  logical   FAT 
  
 this is the device.map
 # this device map was generated by anaconda
 (fd0) /dev/fd0
 (hd0) /dev/hdb
 
 now the thing get worse after my trying to use grub-install command to install 
 grub! 
 I type :grub-install -recheck /dev/hdb
 it told me :/boot/grub/stag1 not read correctly!

Is your grub.conf correct? Does it specify the correct GRUB root?
The full output of the installation attempt would be interesting.

 I had try to copy the /usr/share/grub/i386-pc/stage1 stage2 to overwrite the them,
 but the result is the same error!   Adding the --force-lba to the command didn't 
 work either! 

I can't and won't comment on problems caused by messing with the
files of your grub package. You must not move files around or try to
fix anything that isn't broken. This only puts your installation
into a state that is not reproducible elsewhere.

In your case, if you want to install GRUB into Master Boot Record
(MBR), running grub-install /dev/hdb would be correct, provided
that your grub.conf is correct.

By changing the subject line of your mails _and_ using a mailer that
doesn't maintain the headers needed for threaded display, it is
difficult to keep track of your previous mails.

 Now that I had to use a floppy to boot my pc(Thanks god ,I had made one after setup)!
 the command I use to boot linux is 
 root(hd0,5)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 root=/dev/hdb5

I don't believe this, because root(hd0,5) would specify your boot
partition to be /dev/hd6, which is a swap partition according to
your partition table. Correct for your setup would be root(hd0,4).

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postgres versions

2003-03-17 Thread Zhi Cheng Wang
dear gurus

I have a few versions of RH (7.2, 7.3 and 8.0) servers and they need postgres DB. can 
i install the same version of postgresql on all the servers?

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re:grub can boot from the grub.conf (Michael Schwendt)

2003-03-17 Thread winglion
 If it is just as you said,I got a question :how can redhad setup grub at the first 
time!
Grub work well after redhat8 was setup until I format the hdb8 that use to be 
freespace!
There should be some ways to setup grub again!
 Thanks for you help anyway!


  well, your partition table shows that your harddisk is 40gb and you've created 
 the first primary 
partition to be FAT which is covering the 1024 cylinders range.. As per my knowledge, 
you'll 
never be able to boot from the harddisk thisway,, you'll have to use the floppy 
 




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sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date

2003-03-17 Thread Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
The machine top.health.gov.za 196.15.225.8
is the secondary relay for our domain, health.gov.za.
It worked fine running rh 7.1.
I ran up2 date on it to update the sendmail after the 3 March 
exploit became known.
I kept the old files as is in /etc/mail.

It now behaves as follows:
When mail is sent to the main mailserver directly, everything works.
If mail is sent to the relay top.health.gov.za it gives 550 511 user 
unknown.
Where should i start looking?
The out going mail from the mmain mail server stil
goes out through top.health.gov.za.
tia
Willem

Script started on Mon Mar 17 12:12:12 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] willem]$ telnet 196.15.22. 5.27 25
Trying 196.15.225.27...
Connected to 196.15.225.27.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-InterScan Version 3.6-Build_LINUX7_1224 $Date: 05/07/2002 14:24:0012$: Ready
220 mail.health.gov.za GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5 Ready (C)1993, 1998 Novell, Inc.
helo top.health.gov.za
250 mail.health.gov.za Ok
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
subjet ct: mailtesting one
this is test one.

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outlook pop not working error PTR record not found error

2003-03-17 Thread Nanyar Lankan
hai all,

I just installed red-hat 7.2 and configured the sendmail too.
i could pop mail from my windows machies but unable to send messages the error comes 
Protocolo: SMTP, Respuesta del servidor: '4504.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannotresolve PTR record for 192.248.50.222
please any body help me to solve this problkem
bye
neethanWith Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs

Re: sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date

2003-03-17 Thread Willem Brown
Hello Willem,

What does the /etc/mail/mailertable and /etc/mail/local-host-names
look like?
If I'm not mistaken, the local-host-names should not contain
health.gov.za but mailertable should contain somthing like
the following.
health.gov.za smtp:mail.health.gov.za

You need to run the makemap command after you've updated the
mailertable file.
makemap hash /etc/mail/mailertable  /etc/mail/mailertable

Willem van der Walt wrote:
Hi,
The machine top.health.gov.za 196.15.225.8
is the secondary relay for our domain, health.gov.za.
It worked fine running rh 7.1.
I ran up2 date on it to update the sendmail after the 3 March 
exploit became known.
I kept the old files as is in /etc/mail.

It now behaves as follows:
When mail is sent to the main mailserver directly, everything works.
If mail is sent to the relay top.health.gov.za it gives 550 511 user 
unknown.
Where should i start looking?
The out going mail from the mmain mail server stil
goes out through top.health.gov.za.
tia
Willem

Script started on Mon Mar 17 12:12:12 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] willem]$ telnet 196.15.22. 5.27 25
Trying 196.15.225.27...
Connected to 196.15.225.27.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-InterScan Version 3.6-Build_LINUX7_1224 $Date: 05/07/2002 14:24:0012$: Ready
220 mail.health.gov.za GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5 Ready (C)1993, 1998 Novell, Inc.
helo top.health.gov.za
250 mail.health.gov.za Ok
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
subjet ct: mailtesting one
this is test one.
Best Regards
Willem Brown
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up2date problem

2003-03-17 Thread Cyber Wolf
Hello,

I recently compiled latest libraries of different kinds such as glib, openssl, etc..
Now everything still works okay only up2date doesn't.
Whenever I try to run up2date i get this error:

~# up2date -l

Your system libraries do not support SSL (secure) connections.
Any data that you send or receive from redhat.com will be
transmitted in the clear.

That's it, nothing further happens. SSL is installed correctly so I really don't know 
what else I can do...

Anyone can help me here?

Thanks,

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openldap strangeness

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Dossett
Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why the following is occurring?

I have one openLDAP server running under RH8.0... I then
have a number of other servers that authenticate via the
main openLDAP server... these range from RH7.2 to RH8.0.
The pertinent portion of my nsswitch.conf is thus:

passwd: files nisplus ldap
shadow: files nisplus ldap
group:  files nisplus ldap
the root account is set on each machine using passwd,shadow,group,
it is not set in openLDAP.
The problem I have is that if the openLDAP server is down, it takes
ages... like 5 minutes, to login as root or to do anything which checks
authentication... to me it should be checking files for this first before
ldap...  but that certainly does not seem how it is... I will have a replica
openLDAP server soon, but I would like to understand this fully...
does anyone know how to fix that.. .or know anywhere where there are
people that know how to fix this?
Thanks

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RE: Audigy 2 working.

2003-03-17 Thread Kleiner Hampel
i'm sorry, i cannot help you.
but i would try emu-dspmgr to run. ask the people in its mailing list!


Am Mon, 2003-03-17 um 02.55 schrieb Mirabella, Mathew J:
 what i mean is to be able to play more than one thing at a time with the sound card.
 
 In my case it is using emacspeak (audio desktop for emacs) with a speech server 
 called IBM via voice outloud.  but at the same time, being able to play mp3s or 
 other audio, and in the first instance, to get the emacspeak auditory icons working 
 as well as the speech.
 
 I can use emacspeak with the dectalk exprss (serial port device for providing 
 speech) and in this case, the auditory icons work... but in the case of using 
 outloud, they do not.
 
 I have done all the things that the emacspeak faq says... setting a multichannel 
 item in the .emacs file oor one thing.
 
 Another example... trying to set things with emu-dspmgr and the -m option gives 
 errors for all the ports.
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kleiner Hampel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 16 March 2003 4:07 AM
 To: redhat-list
 Subject: Re: Audigy 2 working.
 
 
 Hi,
 
 first an question from me:
 
 What is 'multitrack'?
 
 ---
 
 You must say aumix to load a file with a content like this:
 
 vol:100:100:P
 bass:50:50:P
 treble:68:68:P
 pcm:100:100:P
 speaker:100:100:P
 line:0:0:P
 mic:0:0:P
 cd:100:100:R
 igain:100:100:P
 ogain:0:0:P
 line1:67:67:P
 dig1:100:100:P
 phin:67:67:P
 phout:67:67:P
 video:67:67:P
 
 regards,
 hampel
 
 Am Don, 2003-03-13 um 23.44 schrieb Mirabella, Mathew J:
  All.
  
  I got the audigy 2 working ok with emu10k1.  i needed to dd the line
  alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
  alias sound-slot-1 emu10k1
  
  However, I do not seem to be able to get multitrack sound.  I have ensured that 
  multitrack=yes is set in the emu10k1.conf file which is located at /usr/local/etc/ 
   but i still don't seem to get multitrack. ???
  
  I would like to know what is sound-slot-0 and sound-slot-1.  i.e. what is the slot 
  all about?
  and what are the scripts for in /usr/local/etc/ relating to the emu10k1 and audigy?
  
  also the levels of sound are pretty low... maybe this can be fixed with aumix?  
  earlier emails to this list shows my modules.conf with some post and pre install 
  scripts that do something with aumix???
 
 
 
 
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Re: openldap strangeness

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Dossett
Jesse Jacobs wrote:
Hello Bill,
Is your pam set correctly?
I use pam, and it seems fine...
anything that authenticates via pam
authenticates via ldap... are you talking
about the files in /etc/pam.d?  I've
had to tweak these a little before...
do you think I need to have alternate
authenticate methods in these?  I thought
that's what nsswitch.conf did  seems
like a lot of work configure all the
files under pam.d..

did u use the RH auth setup?
yes I use authconfig to set up authentication

If so u might wanna use pam-ldap then pam_unix first_pass
HTH,
not quite getting what you mean here...  not use padl or anything,
just native RH8
Thanks for your help..

Bill



Jesse

Bill Dossett said:

Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why the following is occurring?

I have one openLDAP server running under RH8.0... I then
have a number of other servers that authenticate via the
main openLDAP server... these range from RH7.2 to RH8.0.
The pertinent portion of my nsswitch.conf is thus:

passwd: files nisplus ldap
shadow: files nisplus ldap
group:  files nisplus ldap
the root account is set on each machine using passwd,shadow,group, it is
not set in openLDAP.
The problem I have is that if the openLDAP server is down, it takes
ages... like 5 minutes, to login as root or to do anything which checks
authentication... to me it should be checking files for this first
before ldap...  but that certainly does not seem how it is... I will
have a replica openLDAP server soon, but I would like to understand this
fully... does anyone know how to fix that.. .or know anywhere where
there are people that know how to fix this?
Thanks

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Re: openldap strangeness

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Dossett
which file is this in?  still don't understand why the order
in nsswitch.conf  files coming first, doesn't check files
first?...; bu anyway Thanks again..
Bill.

Jesse Jacobs wrote:
Bill,
Sorry forgot to mention that on the pam_ldap line is where u setup the
timeout
HTH,
J.
Jesse Jacobs said:
Hello Bill,
Is your pam set correctly?
did u use the RH auth setup?
If so u might wanna use pam-ldap then pam_unix first_pass
HTH,
Jesse
Bill Dossett said:

Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why the following is occurring?

I have one openLDAP server running under RH8.0... I then
have a number of other servers that authenticate via the
main openLDAP server... these range from RH7.2 to RH8.0.
The pertinent portion of my nsswitch.conf is thus:

passwd: files nisplus ldap
shadow: files nisplus ldap
group:  files nisplus ldap
the root account is set on each machine using passwd,shadow,group, it
is not set in openLDAP.
The problem I have is that if the openLDAP server is down, it takes
ages... like 5 minutes, to login as root or to do anything which
checks authentication... to me it should be checking files for this
first before ldap...  but that certainly does not seem how it is... I
will have a replica openLDAP server soon, but I would like to
understand this fully... does anyone know how to fix that.. .or know
anywhere where there are people that know how to fix this?
Thanks

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Re: sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date

2003-03-17 Thread Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Thanks sofar.
It worked, but now i have an open relay.
I had a modified local-host-names file that was modified by
the update.
It had the comment that it made the entry 
top.health.gov.za
health.gov.za
from the obsoleted /etc/sendmail.cw file
regards, Willem

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Willem Brown wrote:

 Hello Willem,
 
 What does the /etc/mail/mailertable and /etc/mail/local-host-names
 look like?
 
 If I'm not mistaken, the local-host-names should not contain
 health.gov.za but mailertable should contain somthing like
 the following.
 
 health.gov.za smtp:mail.health.gov.za
 
 You need to run the makemap command after you've updated the
 mailertable file.
 
 makemap hash /etc/mail/mailertable  /etc/mail/mailertable
 
 Willem van der Walt wrote:
  Hi,
  The machine top.health.gov.za 196.15.225.8
  is the secondary relay for our domain, health.gov.za.
  It worked fine running rh 7.1.
  I ran up2 date on it to update the sendmail after the 3 March 
  exploit became known.
  I kept the old files as is in /etc/mail.
  
  It now behaves as follows:
  When mail is sent to the main mailserver directly, everything works.
  If mail is sent to the relay top.health.gov.za it gives 550 511 user 
  unknown.
  Where should i start looking?
  The out going mail from the mmain mail server stil
  goes out through top.health.gov.za.
  tia
  Willem
  
  Script started on Mon Mar 17 12:12:12 2003
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] willem]$ telnet 196.15.22. 5.27 25
  Trying 196.15.225.27...
  Connected to 196.15.225.27.
  Escape character is '^]'.
  220-InterScan Version 3.6-Build_LINUX7_1224 $Date: 05/07/2002 14:24:0012$: Ready
  220 mail.health.gov.za GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5 Ready (C)1993, 1998 Novell, 
  Inc.
  helo top.health.gov.za
  250 mail.health.gov.za Ok
  mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 Ok
  rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  250 Ok
  data
  354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
  subjet ct: mailtesting one
  this is test one.
  
 
 Best Regards
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RE: program to monitor directory changes (new files) and send e-mail

2003-03-17 Thread Douglas, Stuart
Yikes...it's the topic that won't go away...  :)

Everything is working, just a little too well.  Take a look at the script below...no 
matter how I structure the two snapshot ls files that are compared, they are ALWAYS 
deemed different and so always result in an e-mail notification being sent.  I've 
tried it both with/without the --full-time option, and also with/without the pipe to 
the md5sum function.

Many have suggested using FAM instead, if I don't get this working I may just punt and 
go that route (resulting in a whole new round of questions for you all, of course).

Thanks everyone!

Stuart


-Original Message-
From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: program to monitor directory changes (new files) and send
e-mail


Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Ah, important safety tip as that will be the case.
 
 Since I'm not comfortable implementing technology I don't fully
 understand, would you be so kind as to translate into English each line
 of your script?  I think I get the basic drift of it...take a snapshot
 of the contents of a directory, take another and compare the two, if
 their different send an e-mail, if their not, start all over again or
 something like that.  Getting warm?


That is exactly it. For the record, here is a commented version, as I 
would have written it if I were implementing it on my own server:


#!/bin/sh
#
# Notify the admin if a directory's contents has changed.
#

# The directory to monitor.
watchdir='/path/to/ftpdir'

# Who gets notified of changes. This may be a
# comma-delimited list, but no spaces.
recipient='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

# The file that holds an md5sum of the directory
# listing, as of the last time it was changed.
sumfile='/path/to/sumfile'

## End of settings ##

# Get the previous md5sum of the directory listing.
olddirsum=`cat $sumfile`

# Get the current md5sum of the directory listing. Use the
# --full-time option to avoid errors based on ls changing the
# displayed date format based on the age of the file.
newdirsum=`ls --full-time $watchdir | md5sum`

# Compare the previous md5sum to the current md5sum.
if [ $newdirsum != $olddirsum ]; then
   # The directory listing changed.
   # Send notification message.
   ls $watchdir | mail -s Updated dirlist: $watchdir $recipient

   # Update the summmary file with the current md5sum.
   echo $newdirsum  $sumfile
fi



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Re: openldap strangeness

2003-03-17 Thread Jesse Jacobs
Hello Bill,
The /etc/nsswitch only defines the name services to use and their order
ie. usernames, servicenames, etc. (Not Auth!)
LDAP can do all of this and a lot more(as u well know).
Once the nameservices are setup u must still use authentication to permit
access.
If you are using the RH RPMS then use the 2.0 admin guide it will steer u
in the right direction for the recommended storage of only user data
within the LDAP directory and the setup of the pam files to use the local
passwd for root.(talk about your run-on sentence)
(Make sure that u BACKUP pam.d first!)
HTH,
Jesse

Bill Dossett said:
 which file is this in?  still don't understand why the order
 in nsswitch.conf  files coming first, doesn't check files
 first?...; bu anyway Thanks again..

 Bill.

 Jesse Jacobs wrote:
 Bill,
 Sorry forgot to mention that on the pam_ldap line is where u setup the
 timeout
 HTH,
 J.
 Jesse Jacobs said:

Hello Bill,
Is your pam set correctly?
did u use the RH auth setup?
If so u might wanna use pam-ldap then pam_unix first_pass
HTH,
Jesse

Bill Dossett said:

Hi,

Can anyone please tell me why the following is occurring?

I have one openLDAP server running under RH8.0... I then
have a number of other servers that authenticate via the
main openLDAP server... these range from RH7.2 to RH8.0.

The pertinent portion of my nsswitch.conf is thus:

passwd: files nisplus ldap
shadow: files nisplus ldap
group:  files nisplus ldap

the root account is set on each machine using passwd,shadow,group, it
 is not set in openLDAP.

The problem I have is that if the openLDAP server is down, it takes
 ages... like 5 minutes, to login as root or to do anything which
 checks authentication... to me it should be checking files for this
 first before ldap...  but that certainly does not seem how it is... I
 will have a replica openLDAP server soon, but I would like to
understand this fully... does anyone know how to fix that.. .or know
 anywhere where there are people that know how to fix this?

Thanks

Bill Dossett



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Re: outlook pop not working error PTR record not found error

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
On 17-Mar-2003/11:46 +, Nanyar Lankan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just installed red-hat 7.2  and configured the sendmail too.

i could pop mail from my windows machies but unable to send messages the
error comes 

 Protocolo: SMTP, Respuesta del servidor: '450
 4.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot
 resolve PTR record for 192.248.50.222

There is a missing DNS record (PTR record).

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RE: sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date

2003-03-17 Thread Cowles, Steve
 -Original Message-
 From: Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:27 AM
 To: Willem Brown
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date
 
 
 Hi,
 Thanks sofar.
 It worked, but now i have an open relay.

Editing the two files you mentioned should not create an open relay. Have
you tested your server against an external relay tester like:

http://abuse.net/relay.html


 I had a modified local-host-names file that was modified by
 the update. It had the comment that it made the entry 
 top.health.gov.za health.gov.za
 from the obsoleted /etc/sendmail.cw file
 regards, Willem

Any domain names listed in local-host-names would be considered local. i.e.
sendmail would hand off any e-mail addressed to these domains to procmail
for local delivery, not relay them.

Based on my understansing of your post, it sounds like all you need are the
mailertable entries for the domain names that you wish to relay to your
primary mail server. local-host-names would be empty.

Steve Cowles



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Re: sendmail secondary relay gives user unknown after up2date

2003-03-17 Thread Willem Brown
Hello Willem,

Willem van der Walt wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks sofar.
 It worked, but now i have an open relay.
According to the README, sendmail, by default, does not permit
relaying. I'm not sure if this still apply after Red Hat packaged
it. How did you test it to see if it was an open relay?
To relay mail for the health.gov.za domain, add it to the
/etc/mail/relay-domains file. Create it if it does not exist yet.
 I had a modified local-host-names file that was modified by
 the update.
 It had the comment that it made the entry
 top.health.gov.za
 health.gov.za
 from the obsoleted /etc/sendmail.cw file
 regards, Willem

 On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Willem Brown wrote:


Hello Willem,

What does the /etc/mail/mailertable and /etc/mail/local-host-names
look like?

If I'm not mistaken, the local-host-names should not contain
health.gov.za but mailertable should contain somthing like
the following.

health.gov.za smtp:mail.health.gov.za

You need to run the makemap command after you've updated the
mailertable file.

makemap hash /etc/mail/mailertable  /etc/mail/mailertable

Willem van der Walt wrote:

Hi,
The machine top.health.gov.za 196.15.225.8
is the secondary relay for our domain, health.gov.za.
It worked fine running rh 7.1.
I ran up2 date on it to update the sendmail after the 3 March
exploit became known.
I kept the old files as is in /etc/mail.

It now behaves as follows:
When mail is sent to the main mailserver directly, everything works.
If mail is sent to the relay top.health.gov.za it gives 550 511 user
unknown.
Where should i start looking?
The out going mail from the mmain mail server stil
goes out through top.health.gov.za.
tia
Willem

Script started on Mon Mar 17 12:12:12 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED] willem]$ telnet 196.15.22. 5.27 25
Trying 196.15.225.27...
Connected to 196.15.225.27.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-InterScan Version 3.6-Build_LINUX7_1224 $Date: 05/07/2002 14:24:0012$: Ready
220 mail.health.gov.za GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5 Ready (C)1993, 1998 Novell, 
Inc.
helo top.health.gov.za
250 mail.health.gov.za Ok
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 Ok
data
354 Enter mail, end with . on a line by itself
subjet ct: mailtesting one
this is test one.


Best Regards
Willem Brown



Your relay problem might not be because of sendmail. Interscan's
relay controlls are quite useless. To stop the relaying, you have
to use a sendmail-sandwich config with Interscan in the middle.
http://kb.trendmicro.com/solutions/solutionDetail.asp?solutionID=10416

Best Regards
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grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Distribution Lists
Can anyone tell me the syntax for grep to grep and an exact match,
rather than grep 'something1' and get 'something10', 'something11' etc...

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RE: grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Rigler, Steve
Try grep -w

-Steve

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Subject: grep an exact match


Can anyone tell me the syntax for grep to grep and an exact match,
rather than grep 'something1' and get 'something10', 'something11' etc...

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Re: Sharing home and mail directories

2003-03-17 Thread Javier Gostling
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 21:39, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 I have a small home network, and I'd like to share home and mail
 directories so that a user logging in on any machine in the network sees
 the /home/userid directory from his/her own machine and
 /var/spool/mail/userid from a common server.  I think I have the basics,
 but I'd like to make sure I've got it right before I break something I
 care about.  I'd like not to use NIS at the moment, though I may get into
 that later.  There aren't so many machines or users that I feel the need
 for it at this point.

NIS is not the only way to share the user database. LDAP, Hesiod,
Kerberos and SMB are all supported by RedHat Linux. At the simplest
level, you can setup a cron job that pulls
/etc/{passwd,shadow,group,gshadow} from one central server periodically.
For your purposes, the important thing is to have all users map to the
same userID on every machine on your network.

 For a home directory, I know that the machine it lives on must export it
 in /etc/exports:
 
   /home/joeuser   192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync)

You would be better off exporting the entire /home directory.

 
 To get it mounted when the user logs into any machine, I would have that
 user's entry in /etc/passwd be:
 
   joeuser:x:500:500:Joe User:something:/bin/bash
 
 but what about something reflects the fact that the directory is to be
 mounted from the remote machine on login?  Or am I off base here?

It is the local mount point. It is recomended to make the local mount
points mimic the local mount points in the NFS server.

 For the mail files, I have the server export /var/spool/mail as:
 
   /var/spool/mail 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync)
 
 and I mount it with the entry in /etc/fstab
 
   server:/var/spool/mail/var/spool/mail nfs \
   auto,hard,intr,rw   0 0
 
 This seems straightforward except for one thing:  root's mail file is now
 network-mounted so all mail to root on any machine will go to the same
 mail file.  Thus (1) I won't be able to tell which machine generated
 the mail, and (2) since I'm not NFS mounting /root, when I read that mail,
 the mbox file it ends up in will depend on which machine I'm logged into.
 Is there a way around that difficulty?

As for your concerns,

(1) Yes you will, because each machine's mail system will add headers
which will tell which machine generated the message.

(2) There is nice little program called unison that is similar to rsync,
but does bidirectional synchronization. You could use it to sync
/root/mbox periodically. You could solve both problems instructing your
MTA to use procmail as an MDA and create a /root/.procmailrc stating
that delivery should go directly to /root/mbox instead of
/var/spool/mail/root. If you do this, remember to change the value of
$MAIL.

Much more of a concern is the problem with mailbox locking. The mbox
format is quite bad at handling race conditions. For this reason, I
would recomend you investigate on MTA and MUA software that has support
for the MailDir message format (IIRC, postfix and mutt both have support
for MailDir). If you configure your system so that mail is delivered to
$HOME/MailDir/..., you won't even have to export /var/spool/mail.

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Re: grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Mark Lundy
Depends on what you are expecting.

grep 'something1 ' (space after 1) will match only that.
grep 'something1$' will match something1 at the end of a line
grep 'something1[ $\.' (space, dollar sign and backspace period) will 
match something1 followed by either a period, as in end of sentence, 
or a space, as in it is a word separated by a space, or at the end of a 
line.
Add a space to the front of 'something1 ' to match something1 
represented as a word separated by spaces.
It all depends on whast you are expecting.

Mark

Distribution Lists wrote:

Can anyone tell me the syntax for grep to grep and an exact match,
rather than grep 'something1' and get 'something10', 'something11' etc...
Thanks



 





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Re: grub can boot from the grub.conf

2003-03-17 Thread winglion
 now the thing get worse after my trying to use grub-install command to install 
 grub! 
 I type :grub-install -recheck /dev/hdb
 it told me :/boot/grub/stag1 not read correctly!

Is your grub.conf correct? Does it specify the correct GRUB root?
The full output of the installation attempt would be interesting.
I edit my grub.conf as this (I had only this hard disk):
 root (hd0,4)
 kernel=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 root=/dev/hdb5

sorry I don't know how to get the output--redirection ditn't work!
but I remember it is just one line telling me the stage1 can read correctly!

In your case, if you want to install GRUB into Master Boot Record
(MBR), running grub-install /dev/hdb would be correct, provided
that your grub.conf is correct.
I had try  grub-install /dev/hdb at first,it didn't work!
By changing the subject line of your mails _and_ using a mailer that
doesn't maintain the headers needed for threaded display, it is
difficult to keep track of your previous mails.
 Sorry, I am a newbe of linux and mailing list! The mails I received from
this mail list was packaged. and I had to cut the word you said to this mail.
I don't know how to get the mail client fill the subject automatically!
Should I chage my submit to the mail list so that I can recevie your mail one by one?
 Now that I had to use a floppy to boot my pc(Thanks god ,I had made one after 
 setup)!
 the command I use to boot linux is 
 root(hd0,5)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 root=/dev/hdb5

I don't believe this, because root(hd0,5) would specify your boot
partition to be /dev/hd6, which is a swap partition according to
your partition table. Correct for your setup would be root(hd0,4).
As you had seen in my grub.conf, I know that this command line seems wrong!
But I do use it to boot my redhat!   I use what you told me to boot redhat 
at first,grub told me that it can recognized the (hd0,4).

   If you are intertest in how my grub works! I can tell you one more strange things:
   when the grub on MRB can still work  manually,I boot it to redhat and try to create
a boot floppy ! after I had format the floppy disk as ext2(I am sure I had did it 
because
i mount it as ext2),and then make the /boot/grub dir and copy the stage1 stage2 into 
it!
Then I start grub :
:root (fd0)
 it recognize the floppy disk as fat filesystem!Is grub allways take floppy disk as 
fat format?
:setup (fd0)
  it told me can't find the stage1 and stage2!
I try many time, the same thing happend!
At last I format the floppy disk as vfat and setup the grub successfully!
So I am using a boot floppy in fat format !
All my knowledge  of grub seem to be challenged at this two days! 





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Re: Moving users home directories

2003-03-17 Thread Javier Gostling
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 00:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to move the users home directories to a new hard disk as the
 current one is running out diskspace and it is the same physical disk having
 the linux OS also. How can the home directories can be moved to a new disk
 without disturbing the permissions

1. Go to single user mode
2. mount /dev/... /newhome
3. mv /home/* /newhome
4. umount /newhome
5. mount /dev/... /home
6. Edit /etc/fstab
7. Go back to multiuser mode

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Re: grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
Rigler, Steve wrote:
Try grep -w
That will work if the word is on a line by itself. If there may be other 
words on the line, try this:

  grep '\Wsomething\W'

That will match the target string only if it surrounded by non-word 
characters (whitespace, puncutation, end-of-line).

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DNS

2003-03-17 Thread Rudik A.A.
Hello All,

On RH 7.1 when I stop the named I get the folowing.
Stopping named: rndc: decode base64 secret: bad base64 encoding

I guess that this happened after I added a new zone in /etc/named.conf.

Tanks in advance

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RE: grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Rigler, Steve
From man grep:
   -w, --word-regexp
  Select  only  those  lines  containing  matches  that form whole
  words.  The test is that the matching substring must  either  be
  at  the  beginning  of  the line, or preceded by a non-word con-
  stituent character.  Similarly, it must be either at the end  of
  the line or followed by a non-word constituent character.  Word-
  constituent characters are letters, digits, and the  underscore.

For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep -w auto /var/log/messages | tail -n 2 -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep -w automount /var/log/messages | tail -n 2 -
Mar 17 07:15:57 houuc8 automount[2045]: expired /home/tidwell
Mar 17 09:18:07 houuc8 automount[2685]: attempting to mount entry /software/utils

-Steve

-Original Message-
From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: grep an exact match


Rigler, Steve wrote:
 Try grep -w

That will work if the word is on a line by itself. If there may be other 
words on the line, try this:

   grep '\Wsomething\W'

That will match the target string only if it surrounded by non-word 
characters (whitespace, puncutation, end-of-line).

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Re: rpm confused

2003-03-17 Thread dbrett
Thanks for everybodies help.

Unfortunately I was never able to get rpm to work.

What I ended up to do was find all the files and delete them. I then
forced rpm to do a new installation.

david

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Achille Miele wrote:

 On Tuesday 11 March 2003 17:20, dbrett wrote:
  I am having problem with rpm.  I went to uninstall an program with rpm
  (rpm --erease)  The message I get back is program is not installed.  I
  then installed the program with rpm and the message I get back is program
  is already installed.  I then did a force install with rpm (rpm -ivh
  --force).  This went through without any indicated problems.  I then tried
  to remove the program again and it failed withe same message, program not
  installed.  I then had rpm do a rebuild (rpm --rebuilddb), this appeared
  to work (at least no messages).
 
  What is wrong and how do I fix it.
 
  david
 
 Sometimes happens the same to me, but only with just installed sw. If I logout 
 from the shell and login again it gives the right answer.
 
 Achille
 
 
 
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Re: problems with rh8

2003-03-17 Thread Jack Bowling
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:39:19AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
snip 
  problem 2) securitylevel or gnome-lokkit does not seems to be working. after
  setting some rules in securitylevel, i click on it again then i got back the
  setting to high which i had change. why is it not saving anything i change?
 
 It *is* saving your changes, see /etc/sysconfig/iptables where you
 can verify it. Upon restart it just starts with high as a default
 because it does not recognize the current configuration.

Rant time again. I cannot understand RH's recalcitrance in either:
1) modifying lokkit so that it also reads current rules;
2) coding another app to parse the iptables rules in more human readable
form.

Having a user assured of one part of their security level is
necessary.

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Re: Practice Exams

2003-03-17 Thread Joe Polk
I agree. I am studying for my LPI instead of RHCE for some  of the same
reasons. Paying so much money for something that has frequently updated
isn't prudent. I may be showing my ignorance, and updates may be less
expensive. However, I think RH needs to re-think it's strategy. I think
they do have the right approach to the test itself, testing hands-on and
weeding out the photographic memory types is good for the
certification. It will, however, be hard to attract the masses to this
exam, and perhaps that's what they want. The LPI is attractive in many
respects. I've found in my job hunt (currently looking, anyone?) that
I'm being advised to have familiarity with many distro's. I found this
surprising. I even had one guy tell me, Get your hands on Gentoo and
some of the other desktop distro's. That kinda floored me, but also
excites me. It's good to see companies wanting a broad knowledge.

JAV

JAV

On Fri, 2003-03-14 at 15:36, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 
  no, you can't pass by book alone, but that still doesn't mean that a
  book is entirely useless.  at the very least, any *decent* exam prep
  book (regardless of the topic) will give you some guidance about the
  areas that you should be relatively familiar with, that's all.
 
 There's an RHCE Exam Cram book by Kara Pritchard. It's a little out of 
 date in it's coverage (often the case with printed study guides), but does 
 exactly what you want: gives you an overview of the test process, and some 
 guidance about passing.
 
 The problem is that the Red Hat-isms change from version to version. That 
 might not matter too much on the hands-on, depending on what the task is, 
 but Red Hat has been known to shift packages and config files between 
 versions, so learning *how* to problem solve is probably a better strategy 
 than learning how to solve a particular problem.
 
 Personally, I'd recommend taking the LPI exams instead. They have a little
 less prominence, but they don't expire the way the RHCE does, they cost
 less, and they're vendor-neutral. You can pass LPI by being familiar with
 Linux in general, and not have to learn all the -isms for a given distro
 (other than RPM and APT package management).
 
 Personally, I refuse to pay almost $800 as a single pass/fail unit. If 
 your employer is paying, then give it a whirl; if you fail, you'll know 
 what you need to study for the next time. But if you're paying out of your 
 own pocket, I'd steer clear of RHCE and go for an LPIC instead.
 
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using diff, cmp, comm, etc.

2003-03-17 Thread Douglas, Stuart
Title: using diff, cmp, comm, etc.






Hello all,


Take a look at the following script (alteration of the one Anthony Greene was kind enough to offer up to me). My question: is there a way to use something like diff, cmp, comm or such to return a list of the differences (line by line) between 2 files? The current script simply sends the current directory listing, my preference would be to send the only the differences between the current and previous copies.

# Compare the previous and current directory listings.

if cmp -s /etc/ftpradiolsnew /etc/ftpradiolsold

then

 # The FTP radio directory listing has not changed, update listing only.

 rm -rf /etc/ftpold

 cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold

else

 # The directory listing has changed, send an e-mail notification  update listing.

 cat /etc/ftpnew | mail -s updated FTP radio spot list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 rm -rf /etc/ftpold

 cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold

fi


Feel free to make any other suggestions (improvements) to what I've done here...it's kinda crude, but it does what I want (almost).

Thanks in advance!


Stuart





Re: program to monitor directory changes (new files) and send e-mail

2003-03-17 Thread Jack Bowling
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:35:57AM -0500, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Yikes...it's the topic that won't go away...  :)
 
 Everything is working, just a little too well.  Take a look at the script below...no 
 matter how I structure the two snapshot ls files that are compared, they are ALWAYS 
 deemed different and so always result in an e-mail notification being sent.  I've 
 tried it both with/without the --full-time option, and also with/without the pipe to 
 the md5sum function.
 
 Many have suggested using FAM instead, if I don't get this working I may just punt 
 and go that route (resulting in a whole new round of questions for you all, of 
 course).
 
 Thanks everyone!
 
 Stuart
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: program to monitor directory changes (new files) and send
 e-mail
 
 
 Douglas, Stuart wrote:
  Ah, important safety tip as that will be the case.
  
  Since I'm not comfortable implementing technology I don't fully
  understand, would you be so kind as to translate into English each line
  of your script?  I think I get the basic drift of it...take a snapshot
  of the contents of a directory, take another and compare the two, if
  their different send an e-mail, if their not, start all over again or
  something like that.  Getting warm?
 
 
 That is exactly it. For the record, here is a commented version, as I 
 would have written it if I were implementing it on my own server:
 
 
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # Notify the admin if a directory's contents has changed.
 #
 
 # The directory to monitor.
 watchdir='/path/to/ftpdir'
 
 # Who gets notified of changes. This may be a
 # comma-delimited list, but no spaces.
 recipient='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 
 # The file that holds an md5sum of the directory
 # listing, as of the last time it was changed.
 sumfile='/path/to/sumfile'
 
 ## End of settings ##
 
 # Get the previous md5sum of the directory listing.
 olddirsum=`cat $sumfile`
 
 # Get the current md5sum of the directory listing. Use the
 # --full-time option to avoid errors based on ls changing the
 # displayed date format based on the age of the file.
 newdirsum=`ls --full-time $watchdir | md5sum`
 
 # Compare the previous md5sum to the current md5sum.
 if [ $newdirsum != $olddirsum ]; then
# The directory listing changed.
# Send notification message.
ls $watchdir | mail -s Updated dirlist: $watchdir $recipient
 
# Update the summmary file with the current md5sum.
echo $newdirsum  $sumfile
 fi
 

Doug - Remove everything after the #Compare ... line in your script and
replace it with the following. You need the if...then block.



# Compare the previous md5sum to the current md5sum.
if [ $newdirsum != $olddirsum ]; then

# Get the process ID and scriptname and use them to
# generate a tempfile name. This method is not guaranteed
# unique, but it should be Good Enough.
pid=$$
scriptname=$(basename $0)
mailfile=/tmp/$scriptname.mailfile.$pid

# Check each file in $watchdir to see if it was created or changed
# since the last md5sum was generated.
for file in $(ls $watchdir); do
   if [ $file -nt $sumfile ]; then
ls --full-time $file  $mailfile
 ## Now mail a notification message to the recipients list
 ##
mail -s 'New voicemail message detected' $recipient  $mailfile
 ## then delete mailfile
  rm $mailfile
fi
 done
fi
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  # the current md5sum
  echo $newdirsum  $sumfile

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Re: using DLT tape drive in linux

2003-03-17 Thread Joe Polk
Did you check dmesg to see if your tape drive is being found? The mt
utility should find your device if the kernel did.

JAV

On Thu, 2003-03-13 at 02:44, Eric Medina wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 07:44:32 Bret Hughes wrote:
 
  is /dev/tape linked to st0?
 
  try mt status /dev/st0
 
  is the st module loaded?
 
  lsmod
 
  if not try
 
  insmod st
 
  you can create /dev/tape if it does not exist.
 
  ln -s /dev/st0 /dev/tape
 
 
 Ys, the st module is loaded. I did what you suggested and linked /dev/st0 to
 /dev/tape. I tried running mt status and nothing seems to be happening. I
 cant even use ctl-C to kill it or ctl-Z to suspend it. Same thing goes with
 tar. I tried:
 
 tar -c -f /dev/st0 backup
 
 just to test and nothing seems to be happening. Cant also kill or suspend. I
 used to do my tape backups in IRIX and was pretty much straightforward and
 easy for me. Just plug the drive to the scsi port and run tar or mt and
 that's it. That's why i thought it'd be easy for me to do it in linux. Have
 any idea what's wrong? Could it be a hardware thing? Is there a linux
 utility that will allow me to test the communication to the tape drive? Im
 pretty much clueless when it comes to doing tape backups in linux. Thanks.
 
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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread fluke
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, T. Ribbrock wrote:

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:44:05PM -0500, Colburn wrote:
  That's encouraging.  Sounds like M$ ... or the government ... customers 
 [...]
 
 No it doesn't. RH has *never* published release dates. At least not in
 the time between 4.1 and now. MS *always* publishes release dates and
 *misses* them royally. That's quite different. RH - in this regard -
 doesn't make promises it can't keep, which I think is a *good* thing.
 It's bad enough that they feel obliged to release buggy products by
 market pressure (at least that's the benevolent explanation I can come
 up with...). I'm beginning to wonder where the times are were things
 were either released when ready (isn't Linus still handling this -
 or at least trying to?) or released early and released often. Both
 have their merits.

  Linus only weighs in on the release of the stable kernel and then Red
Hat usually picks it up in the next release of the distribution.  But if
you keep up with the it should be called GNU/Linux debate, you would
probably also catch on to the fact that the kernel (the only piece that is
truely Linux) is only part of what can effect the stablity of a
distribution.  There is also the GNU portions that also tend to be the
foundation of almost the entire distribution as well.  This include GCC
and GLIBC.  With GCC 2.96, it was clear that RH *forced* a release early
since the C++ team didn't release often enough.  But, I agree that both
release methods have merits and I frequently find myself returning to
RawHide to rebuild critical production RPMs because the standard
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RE: Good Book/source on Red Hat 8.0 or Linux in general

2003-03-17 Thread dbrett
I have to indorse this book as well.  I had not seen it before this
message.  I went and had it look and bought the book.  It was well worth
the purchase.

david

On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Scott Eagle wrote:

 Linux Administration Handbook, Nemeth, Snyder and Hein is the standard Linux
 Admin manual.  All Sys Admins I know use this book, and with the minimal
 administration I have done, this book has had all the answers.  It covers
 all Sys Admin's general tasks from adding peripherals, to security, to shell
 programming.
 
 
 
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Re: grep an exact match

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
Rigler, Steve wrote:
From man grep:
   -w, --word-regexp
[snip]

I stand corrected.

That's what I get for answering these questions from memory.

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Publishing NFuse through Apache

2003-03-17 Thread Brad Alpert
RH 8.0 as internet connection machine with Apache 2.0x, W2k AD
Server internally running Citrix XP/NFuse.

Has anyone published an internal Citrix/NFuse server to the outside
world with Apache 2.0x running on the internet-connected server?

I've tried ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse and ProxyRemote with no luck. 
Attempts to connect result in 403 errors and there is no evidence
that apache is even trying to get over to the internal Citrix
machine.

I haven't tried any port forwarding trickery with iptables yet.

Any tips and hints as to what direction to look in would be
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Re: Practice Exams

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 08:32, Joe Polk wrote:
 I agree. I am studying for my LPI instead of RHCE for some  of the same
 reasons. Paying so much money for something that has frequently updated
 isn't prudent. I may be showing my ignorance, and updates may be less

An RHCE is good, IIRC, for two full releases after the one you test on.
Such that if you test on 7.3, you are certified through 9.3. At a ~18
month full release cycle, that's roughly three years. That translates to
about $250/year.


Maybe it's me but I don't see a lot of cost difference between $600 (to
get to LPIC 3 --let's be honest levels 12 are not up to the level of an
RHCE) and $750.

Then again, the LPIC is a QA type-test, not a hands-on, which means
people can easily pass the test and not know how to actually to do the
job; all they need to do is memorize. Kinda like all those MCSEs that
don't know what they are doing. But that's my personal preference, I
prefer hands-on. That's one reason the training I do is all hands-on.


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Re: PostgreSQL won't restart

2003-03-17 Thread Brian Ashe
Bob Hartung,

On Sunday March 16, 2003 11:26, Bob Hartung wrote:
 Hi all,
I had a new install of 7.2.2 running and I was just beginning to learn a
 little about postgresql.  Now, on rebooting postmaster fails to start - it
 has started just fine for a month.  I have made no changes to the system.
 Where should I begin looking?

 There is nothing in the logs and dmesg just says Postmaster [failed]

Check in the /tmp directory for the lock files.

Something like...
.s.PGSQL.5432
.s.PGSQL.5432.lock

If the server is not running and they exist, then delete them and try the 
startup command.

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Re: grub can boot from the grub.conf

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:1:9 +0800, winglion wrote:

  now the thing get worse after my trying to use grub-install command to install 
  grub! 
  I type :grub-install -recheck /dev/hdb
  it told me :/boot/grub/stag1 not read correctly!
 
 Is your grub.conf correct? Does it specify the correct GRUB root?
 The full output of the installation attempt would be interesting.

 I edit my grub.conf as this (I had only this hard disk):
  root (hd0,4)
  kernel=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 root=/dev/hdb5
 
 sorry I don't know how to get the output--redirection ditn't work!
 but I remember it is just one line telling me the stage1 can read correctly!

Run grub-install /dev/hdb  output.txt, then post the file
output.txt. Please also include the output of rpm -V grub
in a similar way.

 In your case, if you want to install GRUB into Master Boot Record
 (MBR), running grub-install /dev/hdb would be correct, provided
 that your grub.conf is correct.

 I had try  grub-install /dev/hdb at first,it didn't work!

 By changing the subject line of your mails _and_ using a mailer that
 doesn't maintain the headers needed for threaded display, it is
 difficult to keep track of your previous mails.

  Sorry, I am a newbe of linux and mailing list! The mails I received from
 this mail list was packaged. and I had to cut the word you said to this mail.
 I don't know how to get the mail client fill the subject automatically!
 Should I chage my submit to the mail list so that I can recevie your mail one by one?

You have subscribed to the digest version of the list, that means
you receive several messages in one digest. When replying to
digests, you need to adjust the subject line yourself, of course.
Alternatively, when fetching your mail from within Linux, procmail
could split digests automatically (but probably not suitable for a
newbie).

  Now that I had to use a floppy to boot my pc(Thanks god ,I had made one after 
  setup)!
  the command I use to boot linux is 
  root(hd0,5)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 root=/dev/hdb5
 
 I don't believe this, because root(hd0,5) would specify your boot
 partition to be /dev/hd6, which is a swap partition according to
 your partition table. Correct for your setup would be root(hd0,4).

 As you had seen in my grub.conf, I know that this command line seems wrong!
 But I do use it to boot my redhat!

I don't see how booting from a swap partition could work.

 I use what you told me to boot redhat 
 at first,grub told me that it can recognized the (hd0,4).

This should be looked into. Upon booting, at GRUB command-prompt,
what do you get when you enter find /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-14?
It should return (hd0,4). Same for find /boot/grub/stage1.

If you are intertest in how my grub works! I can tell you one more strange things:
when the grub on MRB can still work  manually,I boot it to redhat and try to 
 create
 a boot floppy ! after I had format the floppy disk as ext2(I am sure I had did it 
 because
 i mount it as ext2),and then make the /boot/grub dir and copy the stage1 stage2 into 
 it!
 Then I start grub :
 :root (fd0)
  it recognize the floppy disk as fat filesystem!

I can reproduce that. Might be a bug.

 Is grub allways take floppy disk as fat format?
 :setup (fd0)
   it told me can't find the stage1 and stage2!

I can reproduce this, too. Additionally, GRUB's find doesn't find
any files on (fd0) either, but only those on my hdd partitions.

 I try many time, the same thing happend!
 At last I format the floppy disk as vfat and setup the grub successfully!
 So I am using a boot floppy in fat format !
 All my knowledge  of grub seem to be challenged at this two days! 

Installing GRUB onto floppy disk is a topic where I'm not
up-to-date, and I don't feel like checking the manual right now.

For bootdisks I use mkbootdisk.

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problem with quotas - can't understand what's wrong

2003-03-17 Thread Thierry ITTY
Hello

I'm trying to have a samba file server on linux working with quota
The system is stable for monthes (custom kernel 2.4.19-16, custom samba
2.2.7, quota-tools 3.07)

now i want to activate quota control

i did as told at http://www.linuxmailmanager.com/quota/
it seems to work

one problem is that nothing happens when quota are exceeded
another is that i can't even set quota off :

# quotaon -g /mount/point
quotaon: Cannot find quota file on /mount/point [/dev/vg01/lvol3] to turn
quotas on/off.
# quotaoff -g /mount/point
quotaoff: Cannot find quota file on /mount/point [/dev/vg01/lvol3] to turn
quotas on/off.


thought :
# ls -al /mount/point/aq*
-rw-r--r--1 root root 9216 03-17 16:37
/mount/point/aquota.group

# quotacheck -vgam
quotacheck: Scanning /dev/vg01/lvol3 [/mount/point] done
quotacheck: Checked 55 directories and 16 files

# cat /etc/fstab   
/dev/sda1   /   ext2defaults1 1
none/dev/ptsdevpts  mode=0620   0 0
...
/dev/vg01/lvol3 /mount/pointext2nodev,acl,grpquota  0 2
...

# edquota -g mygroup
Disk quotas for group mygroup (gid 10027):
  Filesystem   blocks   soft   hard inodes
soft hard
  /dev/vg01/lvol33236   1250   1300 13
1250 1300

# edquota -t -g
Grace period before enforcing soft limits for groups:
Time units may be: days, hours, minutes, or seconds
  Filesystem Block grace period Inode grace period
  /dev/vg01/lvol3   1minutes   1minutes


as you see, block quota is exceeded and everything seems ok

what's wrong ???

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Re: using diff, cmp, comm, etc.

2003-03-17 Thread Jeff Kinz
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 10:37:08AM -0500, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Hello all,
 
Hi Doug,  I have a script for you below: 
Please don't send HTML mail to the email list. 
Here is how to fix exchange so it conforms to the RFC's on lists and USENET:
http://expita.com/nomime.html#exchange
Basically you just :
   1. On the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Mail Format tab.
   2. In the Send in this message format list, select Plain Text or HTML, and
  then click OK.
Also - please wrap your text at about 73 chars wide

 my preference would be to send the only the differences between the current and 
 previous copies.
 
 # Compare the previous and current directory listings.
 if cmp -s /etc/ftpradiolsnew /etc/ftpradiolsold
 then
# The FTP radio directory listing has not changed, update listing only.
rm -rf /etc/ftpold
cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold
 else
# The directory listing has changed, send an e-mail notification  update listing.
cat /etc/ftpnew | mail -s updated FTP radio spot list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rm -rf /etc/ftpold
cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold
 fi

Put something roughly like this inside the else block of your script above.
(No I'm not doing all of it for you - you need to do some of it yourself.)
:-)

cd /etc/ftpradiolsnew
for file in *; do  
   if cmp -s $file /etc/ftpradiolsold/${file} ; then
  echo File $file has changed  /tmp/ftpdiff$$
  diff $file /etc/ftpradiolsold/${file}  /tmp/ftpdiff$$
  echo \n\n\n\n  /tmp/ftpdiff$$
   fi
done
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Two problems with Redhat on a laptop.

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Homer
Hi all,

I think this is the correct place for my questions. If not forgive me.

I have sucessfully installed Redhat 8.0 on my Sony PCG-FX401 laptop and
it is working beautifully. However I have two outstanding issues.

1) The XFree86 XVideo extensions do not seem to be available. How can I
install these?

2) My wireless card (Netgear MA401) aparrently requires a later release
of the orinoco_cs module than is currently available with Redhat
kernels. Do I need to move to a stock kernel for this or is there an
alternative method?

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Two problems with Redhat on a laptop.

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Homer
Hi all,

I think this is the correct place for my questions. If not forgive me.

I have sucessfully installed Redhat 8.0 on my Sony PCG-FX401 laptop and
it is working beautifully. However I have two outstanding issues.

1) The XFree86 XVideo extensions do not seem to be available. How can I
install these?

2) My wireless card (Netgear MA401) aparrently requires a later release
of the orinoco_cs module than is currently available with Redhat
kernels. Do I need to move to a stock kernel for this or is there an
alternative method?

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RE: shell script - expert question

2003-03-17 Thread Kleiner Hampel
Thanks!

Am Son, 2003-03-16 um 22.23 schrieb Robert P. J. Day:
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Re: When /etc/modules.conf goes bad

2003-03-17 Thread Kleiner Hampel
But what is with own modules? Modules that are not shipped with the
kernel?

a 'install myownmodule' does not work!
I have copied myownmodule to /lib/modules and did a depmod, but it
doesn't work!

please help
hampel

Am Mon, 2003-03-17 um 06.37 schrieb Michael Fratoni:
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 On Monday 17 March 2003 12:24 am, Michael Fratoni wrote:
  On Sunday 16 March 2003 11:01 pm, CM Miller wrote:
 
   THey work fine now and load these modules, unless you
   can give a better example.
 
  Load what modules?
  The parport module is loaded by: alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
  The ntfs module should be loaded on demand when you try to mount an
  ntfs filesystem (with mount /foo /bar -t ntfs ..., or an entry in
  /etc/fstab), and I've no idea what /proc/scsi/imm is supposed to do.
  If you are trying to load an scsi_hostadapter something like:
  'alias scsi_hostadapter imm'
  would be the syntax, but I've no idea if that is correct for your
  system. I take it this is for a zip drive? You might try a google
  search for imm and modules.conf to get the correct entries.
 
 Actually, a google search suggest the following entries might work for a 
 zip drive using the imm module:
 
 alias scsi_hostadapter imm
 alias block-major-8 sd_mod 
 
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Re: Two problems with Redhat on a laptop.

2003-03-17 Thread Steve Homer
Appologies for the duplicates, Evolution is playing up (beta version...)

On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 16:46, Steve Homer wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I think this is the correct place for my questions. If not forgive me.
 
 I have sucessfully installed Redhat 8.0 on my Sony PCG-FX401 laptop and
 it is working beautifully. However I have two outstanding issues.
 
 1) The XFree86 XVideo extensions do not seem to be available. How can I
 install these?
 
 2) My wireless card (Netgear MA401) aparrently requires a later release
 of the orinoco_cs module than is currently available with Redhat
 kernels. Do I need to move to a stock kernel for this or is there an
 alternative method?
 
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Re: using diff, cmp, comm, etc.

2003-03-17 Thread Brian Ashe
Stuart,

On Monday March 17, 2003 10:37, Douglas, Stuart wrote:
 Hello all,

 Take a look at the following script (alteration of the one Anthony Greene
 was kind enough to offer up to me).  My question: is there a way to use
 something like diff, cmp, comm or such to return a list of the differences
 (line by line) between 2 files?  The current script simply sends the
 current directory listing, my preference would be to send the only the
 differences between the current and previous copies.

 # Compare the previous and current directory listings.
 if cmp -s /etc/ftpradiolsnew /etc/ftpradiolsold
 then
# The FTP radio directory listing has not changed, update listing only.
rm -rf /etc/ftpold
cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold
 else
# The directory listing has changed, send an e-mail notification 
 update listing. cat /etc/ftpnew | mail -s updated FTP radio spot list
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] rm -rf /etc/ftpold
cp /etc/ftpnew /etc/ftpold
 fi

 Feel free to make any other suggestions (improvements) to what I've done
 here...it's kinda crude, but it does what I want (almost).

I'm not _exactly_ sure what you are trying to do, but here is a different 
approach you may wish to consider...

Scenario : Serveral authors/publishers/whatever uploading new/different 
material to a centralized source. This material then needs to be deseminated 
to multiple other individuals and kept syncronized. Should also have the 
ability to be queried for differences.

If this fits what you are trying to do, have you considered using CVS?

It has serveral advantages over what it looks like you are doing now.

1. It can be fully automated on all sides.
2. It keeps track of everything that happens.
3. It can be tunnelled through SSH for added security.
4. It works. (don't be fooled by the programming thing, it really does work 
well for binary files as well)

Just a thought.

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Anderson
On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 18:28, Colburn wrote:
 Thousands of patches and kludges later RH8 is functional but well behind
 the curve.  Anyone know if/when RedHat intends to release a
 significantly upgraded version?  (I am sick of wasting time trying to
 get things to work, or fixing things the updates break.)
 
 Feature Wish List:
 
 1.  Integrated xsane with complete feature support for common scanners,
 including the Memorex MEM48U.

I didn't know they even made scanners.

 
 2.  Integrated E-mail client that includes at least the features of
 MSIE.  (Beonex  Galeon fall short, e.g. neither auto-completes
 addresses and neither of the address books function reliably.)


Well I'd not be suprised to see that a WEB BROWSER falls short of the
features of a MAIL CLIENT. Why do you think a web browser should
auto-complete email addresses and have an address book? For HTTP
addresses, Galeon does do auto-complete. Evolution (and EMAIL CLIENT)
does have address books and auto-completion. MSIE is not a mail client
either. Maybe try an email client for email. ;)



 
 3.  Integrated dial-up/modem monitor that accurately displays connect,
 data flow, and other information.  (None of the apps I have tried work
 properly.  e.g. the icon shows up but the status lights are unreadable
 and the pop-up fails -- so no info.)
 
 4.  Integrated image and video display apps.  Have GIMP and GNOME
 running, hacked in MTV for MPEGS, but nothing working for AVI, etc.
 Quite frankly it seems absurd to have to chase down all of this stuff
 for a product I bought (yes, I bought it) that was represented as a
 complete M$ Windows alternative.

Not really, an *alternative* is not a *clone*.

 
 5.  There is more but I have either hacked-in apps, learned to expect a 
 lesser product for the sake of not using M$, or given up expecting
 certain things to work for the same reason.  (Oh, StarOffice 6.0, paid
 for that as well, still doesn't integrate properly -- not sure if I
 should blame Sun or RedHat but sure know I should not have to spend
 hours getting two commercial Linux products to talk to each other! 

What do you mean when you claim that SO doesn't talk to Linux and
vica-versa? What do you mean by integrate? it opens files, it writes
and reads them, it saves them, it prints them, it can be in the menu,
you can have it be the default open action when using Nautilus, etc..

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Re: Publishing NFuse through Apache

2003-03-17 Thread Stefan Held
Am Mon, 2003-03-17 um 17.25 schrieb Brad Alpert:
 RH 8.0 as internet connection machine with Apache 2.0x, W2k AD
 Server internally running Citrix XP/NFuse.
 
 Has anyone published an internal Citrix/NFuse server to the outside
 world with Apache 2.0x running on the internet-connected server?
 
 I've tried ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse and ProxyRemote with no luck. 
 Attempts to connect result in 403 errors and there is no evidence
 that apache is even trying to get over to the internal Citrix
 machine.
 
 I haven't tried any port forwarding trickery with iptables yet.
 
 Any tips and hints as to what direction to look in would be
 appreciated!

Youre Problem is not apache, your Problem is the Citrix SSL Gateway
trick. You either use a patched version of SSL or give up ;)

I tried for about two weaks to get a Apache / Tomcat / SSL Nfuse Server
up and running. Sorry but i had to give it up. 

All i can say have fun ;)

 
 Thanks/Brad
 
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Re: Can't mount floppy drive

2003-03-17 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
try the vfat option. if that fails it could be the kernel doesn't support
(you'll have to recompile then) else a better option, try to format it once 
with the mkfs command if you are going to use it only under linux..
but as i think, I/O error is only shown when the floppy is damaged :-0

ritesh
Quoting Toto Gamez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,
 i was trying to copy a file from a floppy drive but cant mount my floppy.
 I issue mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy but it gave an error
 /dev/fd0: Input/Output error
 mount: you must specify the file system type
 
 I issued mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
 it gave me an error
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad super block on /dev/fd0 or too any
 parameter
 
 Im using RH7.2, the floppy was formatted in win2k(FAT)
 
 
 Please help
 
 
 Regards,
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Re: postgres versions

2003-03-17 Thread David Busby
If it compiles you can, I've used/use the Postgres 7.3,7.3.1 and 7.3.2
successfully on all three versions of RedHat.

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postgres DB. can i install the same version of postgresql on all the
servers?

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Nicholas Marsh
I'm using the Red Hat Beta that will become 8.1 (when it's ready). There are lots of 
new features that will add to 8.0's usability (fonts, menus, applets) along with all 
the latest software updates (Gnome, Open Office, Mozilla, etc) and bug fixes. 

The end of life for RedHat 7.1 through 8.0 is December 31, 2003. It's safe to assume 
that Red Hat will have 8.1 out well before they stop supporting the older versions. 
See the following link for more information:

https://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/


Hang in there!


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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread David Busby
To avoid waiting for RedHat to update their software you can use the source.
In fact http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ has some documents about how to do
it.  I have two boxes that I did that on, they're both on super-latest-best
versions of programs/libs I need :) I lost much sleep trying to
boot/configure/make :(

/B


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Subject: Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?


 I'm using the Red Hat Beta that will become 8.1 (when it's ready). There
are lots of new features that will add to 8.0's usability (fonts, menus,
applets) along with all the latest software updates (Gnome, Open Office,
Mozilla, etc) and bug fixes.

 The end of life for RedHat 7.1 through 8.0 is December 31, 2003. It's safe
to assume that Red Hat will have 8.1 out well before they stop supporting
the older versions. See the following link for more information:

 https://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/


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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Bill Anderson
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 11:15, Jack Byers wrote:
 Jack Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:
 
 Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
 you consider vim can be used as the editor.
 
 
 I am reasonably sure most members of this list,
 and almost surely Hal himself,
 really know that light year is a technical term:
 
 specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
 and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
 which is the sense it was used in the above quote.
 
 Sadly, this kind of thing seems to have entered the popular jargon of the 
 day.
 I even ran across some technical type article in the NYtimes a year or so 
 ago
 that misused the term in just the same way.
 
 It's no worse than saying miles ahead of but that is badjunk use too.
 
 call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this
 


I feel for you. I'm the same way with new and improved. Sorry if it is
improved, it can not be new. If it is new, there was nothing to improve.
It is either now OR improved, not both. 

Ok, I'll go back to topical-ness now. ;)

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 08:28:41PM -0500, Colburn wrote:

 significantly upgraded version?  (I am sick of wasting time trying to
 get things to work, or fixing things the updates break.)

I'ld be very interested in knowing what updates have broken anything
in RH 8.0 . Could you give us a short list?

 1.  Integrated xsane with complete feature support for common scanners,
 including the Memorex MEM48U.

Given the fact that mem48u support is currently in alpha condition in
sane's cvs, I really don't see how RH could have delivered this 5 months
ago. I wouldn't qualify a mem48u as common. I also would blame Memorex
for not issuing a Linux driver instead of Red Hat. It's their job to
do it, after all.

 2.  Integrated E-mail client that includes at least the features of
 MSIE.  (Beonex  Galeon fall short, e.g. neither auto-completes
 addresses and neither of the address books function reliably.)

Given the fact that none of thos three applications are e-mail clients,
I'm a little confused as to the point. Setup Galeon to launch Evolution
when you want to send an e-mail and enjoy a product 10 times better than
a MSIE/OE combo.

 4.  Integrated image and video display apps.  Have GIMP and GNOME
 running, hacked in MTV for MPEGS, but nothing working for AVI, etc.
 Quite frankly it seems absurd to have to chase down all of this stuff
 for a product I bought (yes, I bought it) that was represented as a
 complete M$ Windows alternative.

Get mplayer from the freshrpms.org website. I realize it's a pain to
do this but Red Hat would get sued to oblivion if it included this in
its distribution.

 5.  There is more but I have either hacked-in apps, learned to expect a 
 lesser product for the sake of not using M$, or given up expecting
 certain things to work for the same reason.  (Oh, StarOffice 6.0, paid

I really don't think that expecting RH to be exactly like Windows is
a realistic atitude. It's different (please note that this is different
from worse).

What do you feel is missing from RH? Maybe we can help you out.

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
i love to see this answer by david. the best way is sources. even you'd prefer 
sources for additional features.. redhat packages donot come with every 
features enables, as it happened with me in the case of samba which i needed to 
run with ssl. also distros(particularly redhat) avoid many more libraries, one 
i could say is aalib which allows me to view tv on a terminal upto some extent.

ritesh
Quoting David Busby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 To avoid waiting for RedHat to update their software you can use the
 source.
 In fact http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ has some documents about how to do
 it.  I have two boxes that I did that on, they're both on super-latest-best
 versions of programs/libs I need :) I lost much sleep trying to
 boot/configure/make :(
 
 /B
 
 
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 From: Nicholas Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 09:53
 Subject: Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?
 
 
  I'm using the Red Hat Beta that will become 8.1 (when it's ready). There
 are lots of new features that will add to 8.0's usability (fonts, menus,
 applets) along with all the latest software updates (Gnome, Open Office,
 Mozilla, etc) and bug fixes.
 
  The end of life for RedHat 7.1 through 8.0 is December 31, 2003. It's
 safe
 to assume that Red Hat will have 8.1 out well before they stop supporting
 the older versions. See the following link for more information:
 
  https://www.redhat.com/apps/support/errata/
 
 
  Hang in there!
 
 
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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jack Byers wrote:

 Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:
 
 Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
 you consider vim can be used as the editor.
 
 I am reasonably sure most members of this list, and almost surely Hal
 himself, really know that light year is a technical term:
 
 specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
 and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
 which is the sense it was used in the above quote.

Han Solo:  Fast?  Yeah, she's fast.  She made the Kessel run in
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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Anthony E. Greene
Jack Byers wrote:
It's no worse than saying miles ahead of but that is badjunk use too.

call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this
Actually, I think I'll just consider you mistaken. Saying miles ahead is 
a perfectly valid way to describe the difference between two software 
packages.

When I asked how far someplace is, I often ask miles or minutes. It is 
clear that there are at least two ways to measure such things.

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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread gabriel
On March 17, 2003 01:15 pm, Jack Byers wrote:
 Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:
 Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
 you consider vim can be used as the editor.

 I am reasonably sure most members of this list,
 and almost surely Hal himself,
 really know that light year is a technical term:

 specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
 and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
 which is the sense it was used in the above quote.

i hate to drag on such an OT thread, but how is his statement improperly used?  
yes light years is a term used for distance, but so is miles therefore 
the following statements are fundamentally the same:

  Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff.
  Mutt + procmail is miles ahead of this stuff.

while one could substitiute years in the above, this does not make light 
years an invalid use of language.

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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Jack Byers


Jack Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED]




From: Robert P. J. Day [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: OT :  light years, ah
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:57:51 -0500 (EST)
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Jack Byers wrote:


Han Solo:  Fast?  Yeah, she's fast.  She made the Kessel run in
  under 12 parsecs.
rday


great example!
my trouble with this type of stuff is I can never tell
when the the author is  unconscious
or just (mis)using the language to make a joke
or worse misusing bc they know most people dont know
how to read carefully enough to make the distinction,
so they put in hotsounding garbage.
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OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Jack Byers


Jack Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:

Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
you consider vim can be used as the editor.


I am reasonably sure most members of this list,
and almost surely Hal himself,
really know that light year is a technical term:
specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
which is the sense it was used in the above quote.
Sadly, this kind of thing seems to have entered the popular jargon of the 
day.
I even ran across some technical type article in the NYtimes a year or so 
ago
that misused the term in just the same way.

It's no worse than saying miles ahead of but that is badjunk use too.

call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this

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Help

2003-03-17 Thread Price, Charles



Hi,

 I've 
loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop. I'm having problems getting the sound to 
work. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
-Charles
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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Ric Tibbetts
So to ask a question:
Is there a hyphen in anal-retentive

Ric

On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 11:54:17AM -0700, Bill Anderson wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 11:15, Jack Byers wrote:
  Jack Byers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:
  
  Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
  you consider vim can be used as the editor.
  
  
  I am reasonably sure most members of this list,
  and almost surely Hal himself,
  really know that light year is a technical term:
  
  specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
  and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
  which is the sense it was used in the above quote.
  
  Sadly, this kind of thing seems to have entered the popular jargon of the 
  day.
  I even ran across some technical type article in the NYtimes a year or so 
  ago
  that misused the term in just the same way.
  
  It's no worse than saying miles ahead of but that is badjunk use too.
  
  call me an old f**t if you must, but I couldn't help responding to this
  
 
 
 I feel for you. I'm the same way with new and improved. Sorry if it is
 improved, it can not be new. If it is new, there was nothing to improve.
 It is either now OR improved, not both. 
 
 Ok, I'll go back to topical-ness now. ;)
 
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Re: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Price, Charles wrote:

 Hi,

 I've loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop.  I'm having problems getting the
 sound to work.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 -Charles


Do you know what type of sound card you've got? Also what type of laptop
is it? You can find out some information by running lspci and emailing it
to the list

With this I'm sure people can help your further

Rgds

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Re: Sharing home and mail directories

2003-03-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Javier Gostling wrote:

 On Sun, 2003-03-16 at 21:39, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  I have a small home network, and I'd like to share home and mail
  directories so that a user logging in on any machine in the network sees
  the /home/userid directory from his/her own machine and
  /var/spool/mail/userid from a common server.  I think I have the basics,
  but I'd like to make sure I've got it right before I break something I
  care about.  I'd like not to use NIS at the moment, though I may get into
  that later.  There aren't so many machines or users that I feel the need
  for it at this point.

 NIS is not the only way to share the user database. LDAP, Hesiod,
 Kerberos and SMB are all supported by RedHat Linux. At the simplest
 level, you can setup a cron job that pulls
 /etc/{passwd,shadow,group,gshadow} from one central server periodically.
 For your purposes, the important thing is to have all users map to the
 same userID on every machine on your network.

Yes.  In this case, maintaining /etc/passwd and /etc/groups by hand is
adequate for my needs.  Sometime when I have more time I'll look into some
of these alternatives.


  For a home directory, I know that the machine it lives on must export it
  in /etc/exports:
 
  /home/joeuser   192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync)

 You would be better off exporting the entire /home directory.

 
  To get it mounted when the user logs into any machine, I would have that
  user's entry in /etc/passwd be:
 
  joeuser:x:500:500:Joe User:something:/bin/bash
 
  but what about something reflects the fact that the directory is to be
  mounted from the remote machine on login?  Or am I off base here?

 It is the local mount point. It is recomended to make the local mount
 points mimic the local mount points in the NFS server.

I see how this would work if all user directories were on a single server.
In my case, Joe User's primary home directory is on his desktop and Jane
User's primary files are on her desktop.  But I want Joe to see his
primary home when he logs into Jane's machine (or any other one on the
LAN) and the same for Jane.  If I just export /home from Joe's machine and
mount it on Jane's, I'll mask her primary home directory.

I'm thinking there might be something that can be done with the
automounter.  So the behavior would be:

Joe logs into Joe's machine and gets the local /home/joeuser.
Joe logs into Jane's machine and it automounts Joe's /home/joeuser
via NFS.  When Joe logs out, the mounted home directory is
unmounted.
Jane's userid behaves the opposite.

Can that work?


  For the mail files, I have the server export /var/spool/mail as:
 
  /var/spool/mail 192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync)
 
  and I mount it with the entry in /etc/fstab
 
  server:/var/spool/mail/var/spool/mail nfs \
  auto,hard,intr,rw   0 0
 
  This seems straightforward except for one thing:  root's mail file is now
  network-mounted so all mail to root on any machine will go to the same
  mail file.  Thus (1) I won't be able to tell which machine generated
  the mail, and (2) since I'm not NFS mounting /root, when I read that mail,
  the mbox file it ends up in will depend on which machine I'm logged into.
  Is there a way around that difficulty?

 As for your concerns,

 (1) Yes you will, because each machine's mail system will add headers
 which will tell which machine generated the message.

 (2) There is nice little program called unison that is similar to rsync,
 but does bidirectional synchronization. You could use it to sync
 /root/mbox periodically. You could solve both problems instructing your
 MTA to use procmail as an MDA and create a /root/.procmailrc stating
 that delivery should go directly to /root/mbox instead of
 /var/spool/mail/root. If you do this, remember to change the value of
 $MAIL.

Ah, that would do it.  Thanks.

 Much more of a concern is the problem with mailbox locking. The mbox
 format is quite bad at handling race conditions. For this reason, I
 would recomend you investigate on MTA and MUA software that has support
 for the MailDir message format (IIRC, postfix and mutt both have support
 for MailDir). If you configure your system so that mail is delivered to
 $HOME/MailDir/..., you won't even have to export /var/spool/mail.

Interesting.  In this very low-traffic environment, I don't think I'm
taking much of a risk.  But I imagine that I could also set up the LAN so
that all mail delivery on the LAN is through the server.  (I'm currently
using sendmail.)

Thanks for your suggestions.


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RE: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Price, Charles
Laptop : Compaq 900

Info from the Sound Card Configuration Tool
Vendor : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]
Model : M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
Module : disabled

- Charles

-Original Message-
From: Rus Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Help


On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Price, Charles wrote:

 Hi,

 I've loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop.  I'm having problems getting
the
 sound to work.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 -Charles


Do you know what type of sound card you've got? Also what type of laptop
is it? You can find out some information by running lspci and emailing it
to the list

With this I'm sure people can help your further

Rgds

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Re: OT : light years, arrrrggggh

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 18:15:07 +, Jack Byers wrote:

 Hal Burgiss responded to another thread:
 
 Mutt + procmail is light years ahead of this stuff. Especially, when
 you consider vim can be used as the editor.
 
 
 I am reasonably sure most members of this list,
 and almost surely Hal himself,
 really know that light year is a technical term:
 
 specifically it is a measure of _distance_ ;
 and said another way, it most certainly is not a measure of _time_
 which is the sense it was used in the above quote.

Funny, because I took above sentence in terms of distance. 

 It's no worse than saying miles ahead of but that is badjunk use too.

To be miles ahead of someone is a common phrase in many languages.
I don't see anything wrong with it.

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Re: Help

2003-03-17 Thread gabriel
On March 17, 2003 02:31 pm, Price, Charles wrote:
 I've loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop.  I'm having problems getting the
 sound to work.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

to add to rus' comment, you should also include what window manager you're 
using (kde/gnome/windowmaker/enlightenment/ion etc.) or if you're trying to 
play audio from the console (a trick i have yet to master).

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RE: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Price, Charles wrote:

 Laptop : Compaq 900

 Info from the Sound Card Configuration Tool
 Vendor : Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]
 Model : M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
 Module : disabled

 - Charles


With Linux you get 2 choice of sound drivers. You either get the old
Open Source Sound (OSS) modules or the newer alsa drivers. Alsa generally
is nicer to have from my expierence If you make sure that the alsa rpm are
installed firstly then try

modprobe snd-ali5451

See if that helps

( I am assuming that you are running on a stock kernel i.e. haven't
compiled your own)

Rgds

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread gabriel
On March 17, 2003 02:05 pm, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
 i love to see this answer by david. the best way is sources. even you'd
 prefer sources for additional features.. redhat packages donot come with
 every features enables, as it happened with me in the case of samba which i
 needed to run with ssl. also distros(particularly redhat) avoid many more
 libraries, one i could say is aalib which allows me to view tv on a
 terminal upto some extent.

well if you're going to do everything from sources anyway, why use redhat at 
all?  why not slackware or gentoo?



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Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Richard Sumilang
Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download 
RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and 
another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty 
slow. Anyone know any fast servers?

Thanks
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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Rus Foster
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Richard Sumilang wrote:

 Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download
 RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and
 another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty
 slow. Anyone know any fast servers?

 Thanks
 Richard S.

Well for me www.mirror.ac.uk is nice and fast but it might not be for you
due to your geographical distance.  Guessing that you are California then
I would suggest that you find a close mirror listed on
www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html

Rgds

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Re: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 06:31, Price, Charles wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop.  I'm having problems
 getting the sound to work.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 -Charles

First, can you turn off the HTML mail? Secondly, open a terminal and try
typing sndconfig and see if that recognises your sound card...

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Redhat-config-packages directory path

2003-03-17 Thread DuSTiN KRySaK
Hi there - I have copied all 3 disks of my RH install CD's to my hard
drive Now when using redhat-config-packages, I know you are supposed to
specify -t to do the path... Now what I am wondering - where exactly does
the path need to go to? The root of the cd? Right to the RPMS directory?


I have placed mine at:

/root/rh8.i386

Then each disk is in a sub-directory called d1, d2, d3 respectively.

I tried both the cd root, and the RPMS directory, what else would I have to
do to get this to work?

Thanks!


   
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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Ed Wilts
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:08:54PM -0800, Richard Sumilang wrote:
 Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download 
 RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and 
 another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty 
 slow. Anyone know any fast servers?

Depending on where you are, redhat.newaol.com is usually pretty darn
fast.  It's not 100% current on updates though, but the isos should come
down fairly quickly for US-based users.

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RE: Help

2003-03-17 Thread Robert Adkins II

On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 06:31, Price, Charles wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've loaded Redhat 8.0 onto my laptop.  I'm having problems
 getting the sound to work.  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 -Charles

First, can you turn off the HTML mail? Secondly, open a terminal and
try
typing sndconfig and see if that recognises your sound card...

Make sure you are logged in as root when you run sndconfig...

Regards,
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IT Manager/Buyer
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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 07:08, Richard Sumilang wrote:
 Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download 
 RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and 
 another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty 
 slow. Anyone know any fast servers?
 
 Thanks
 Richard S.

ftp.planetmirror.com

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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Technoslick
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:08, Richard Sumilang wrote:
 Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download 
 RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and 
 another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty 
 slow. Anyone know any fast servers?

I downloaded one of the two ISOs yesterday from this site in under three
hours:

ftp://redhat.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/redhat-7.3-en/iso/i386/

Is that fast? You tell me. :-)

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread Javier Gostling
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 07:09:43PM +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 08:28:41PM -0500, Colburn wrote:
 
  significantly upgraded version?  (I am sick of wasting time trying to
  get things to work, or fixing things the updates break.)
 
 I'ld be very interested in knowing what updates have broken anything
 in RH 8.0 . Could you give us a short list?

Not specific to RH8, but in 7.2 I has an upgrade of apache save the old
config file and install the new config file in it's place httpd.conf. Also,
On a couple of Proliants we have, a kernel upgrade addded a driver for the
SmartArray 5i, and it was loaded before the driver for to SmartArray 432
where the disks were installed. This re4ndered the system unbootable with
the new kernel. It took me some time to figure out what was happening and be
able to correct it.

Another one. In 7.0, an upgrade of openssl lacked the version dependency for
apache and apache wouldn't start after you upgraded openssl (after the
aforementioned incident with apache I was somewhat reluctant to upgrade
apache without extensive testing). I had to downgrade openssl until I had
time to throughly test the apache upgrade.

While we are on this subject, does anyone know if there is a linux distro
which uses a system like BSD ports to manage software? That would be quite
interesting to try.

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Re: Is RH8 Ever Going to be Updated?

2003-03-17 Thread James_Martin
For a Linux distro with a ports like system, try Gentoo.  www.gentoo.org.



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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 07:42, Technoslick wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:08, Richard Sumilang wrote:
  Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download 
  RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and 
  another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty 
  slow. Anyone know any fast servers?
 I downloaded one of the two ISOs yesterday from this site in under three
 hours:
 ftp://redhat.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/redhat-7.3-en/iso/i386/
 Is that fast? You tell me. :-)
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Three hours? Is that fast?
What about trying ftp.planetmirror.com instead?

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Re: Fast Mirrors!

2003-03-17 Thread Anand Buddhdev
 On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 07:42, Technoslick wrote:
  On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:08, Richard Sumilang wrote:
   Whats the fastest mirror that you guys know of where I can download
   RedHat Linux 7.3??? I'm downloading disc 1 from linuxiso.org and
   another one from somewhere else I found on google but they are pretty
   slow. Anyone know any fast servers?
  I downloaded one of the two ISOs yesterday from this site in under three
  hours:
 
ftp://redhat.netnitco.net/pub/mirrors/redhat/redhat/redhat-7.3-en/iso/i386/
  Is that fast? You tell me. :-)
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 Three hours? Is that fast?
 What about trying ftp.planetmirror.com instead?

3 hours is actually quite slow. Here at my workplace in The Netherlands, I
can get an ISO in under 10 minutes from one of my 2 locals mirrors of
ftp.nl.uu.net, or ftp.nluug.nl :) I am spoilt though, because I have a 100
Mbits/s connection to our provider, who connected to the Amsterdam Internet
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Re: Redhat-config-packages directory path

2003-03-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:08:16 -0800, DuSTiN KRySaK wrote:

 Hi there - I have copied all 3 disks of my RH install CD's to my hard
 drive Now when using redhat-config-packages, I know you are supposed to
 specify -t to do the path... Now what I am wondering - where exactly does
 the path need to go to? The root of the cd? Right to the RPMS directory?
 
 
 I have placed mine at:
 
 /root/rh8.i386
 
 Then each disk is in a sub-directory called d1, d2, d3 respectively.
 
 I tried both the cd root, and the RPMS directory, what else would I have to
 do to get this to work?

[recycling an old posting]

The proper installation path is to the root of a directory tree as
described in the README on disc #1. For instance, if you mounted
disc #1 on /mnt/cdrom, it would be

  redhat-config-packages -t /mnt/cdrom
or:
  redhat-config-packages --tree=/mnt/cdrom
or:
  redhat-config-packages --tree /mnt/cdrom
  
Of course, you can add the contents of disc #2 and #3 to that tree
as explained in the README.

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HELP: Kernel panic

2003-03-17 Thread Yinsheng Li
Hello,

I have a problem after I upgrade the kernel.  While I try to boot from the new updated 
kernel, I got an error -- Kernel panic.  No init found, try init = option to kernel

What should I do now?  I can still use old kernel, but I really need to use new kernel.

Some background:  I installed the Redhat 7.2 through RAID card using Dell GX400 CPU, 
then I removed the harddrive to an Multi-CPU box.  After moving, I found it still 
using the kernel for single CPU, therefore I have to change to use smp-kernel.  I 
download one rpm from redhat website.  After install, I got the above error.  I have 
used the command lilo -v -v, but didn't help.

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Re: Publishing NFuse through Apache

2003-03-17 Thread Brad Alpert
Well, that's discouraging!

Were you able to get it working without the SSL component?  I'd be
interested in figuring out if Citrix/NFuse can be published through
Apache even without invoking Citrix Secure Gateway capabilities.

Thanks/Brad


 Youre Problem is not apache, your Problem is the Citrix SSL
 Gateway trick. You either use a patched version of SSL or give up
 ;)

 I tried for about two weaks to get a Apache / Tomcat / SSL Nfuse
 Server up and running. Sorry but i had to give it up.

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