Re: Linuxconf no longer exists with RedHat 8.0 ... How do I easily configure sendmail/postfix ?
Hello, I recently purchased RedHat 8.0 and I noticed that there is no linuxconf anymore. How do I configure sendmail or postfix so that I can specify virtual domains, aliases, config options, spam protection, mail forwarding, ... as it used to be with RedHat 5 or 6 running vmlinuz-2.2.5-15. I dont want to go through those horrible configuration files of sendmail. Linuxconf used to do the dirty job for you. Are they alternatives to linuxconf with this new RedHat version ? Thanks for your help. F Download webmin from www.webmin.com and don't look back :-) Brad -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
From: RH I'm running RH7.1, and every time after I quit Linuxconf I get the following. [...] Please Help me to solve this problem. # rpm -e linuxconf :) never use it, it sucks, it will ruin all your configurations... you'll find macabrous stories about linuxconf in every linux mailing-list archives.. regards, Juan -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
What version of linuxconf? Get the latest version here: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ The linuxconf version which came with RH 7.2 and below are all sabotaged by RH. Most people run this crippled version and then complain that it don't work. They are short-sighted. -eric wood - Original Message - From: RH Hello Group, I'm running RH7.1, and every timeafter I quit Linuxconf I get the following.
Re: linuxconf
From: Eric Wood The linuxconf version which came with RH 7.2 and below are all sabotaged by RH. Do you have any article or something on this? Thanks in advance, Juan -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
- Original Message - From: Juan Nin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The linuxconf version which came with RH 7.2 and below are all sabotaged by RH. Do you have any article or something on this? One only needs to review the version of linuxconf bundled at distribution release time versus the version readily available. RH *always* released a very old version, turned off many modules, gave no effort or opportunity into making it compliant with the next version. They didn't even grab the latest version from initial beta to final release. And they wonder why they got so many support calls. Who ever was the package maintainer for LC at RH really dropped the ball. Regardless, RH did the right thing to not bundle linuxconf anymore - they couldn't handle it. RH can no longer sabotage the reputation of linuxconf. Any bugs now are truely linuxconf bugs. -eric wood -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002 08:30:54 -0500 Eric Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What version of linuxconf? Get the latest version here: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ The linuxconf version which came with RH 7.2 and below are all sabotaged by RH. Most people run this crippled version and then complain that it don't work. They are short-sighted. -eric wood Defending the indefensible, eh? I downloaded versions myself, straight from solucorp.qc.ca and had problems with them. Specifically with sendmail, bind, permissions, etc. Basically, I had trouble with the same things that gave me trouble with the Redhat-supplied versions. Or did redhat break into their servers and sabotage their stuff? -- I can't remember if I'm the good twin or the evil one. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
- Original Message - From: ABrady [EMAIL PROTECTED] Defending the indefensible, eh? I downloaded versions myself, straight from solucorp.qc.ca and had problems with them. Specifically with sendmail, bind, permissions, etc. Basically, I had trouble with the same things that gave me trouble with the Redhat-supplied versions. I don't recall your problems comming across the linuxconf mailing list. Can you elaborate on the specific issues you had? -eric wood -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: linuxconf
One very important aspect is that it allows the ability to abort any change at any time (except after it's already been applied, of course) and not cause any changes to be made irrespective of the will of the user. My understanding about later versions of linuxconf, this was added as an overall quit without saving option. That was an afterthought there.but it's always been inherent with webmin. Linuxconf does not have a quit-without-saving feature. When you accept a change, it is commited to disk, after performing an archiving with RCS. When using the GUI, you have a tab at the bottom showing all modified files as they happen and you can consult the revision history of the files and extract prior version from the archive, or even edit the file directly (text editing). Also a .OLD file is produces whenever a config file is updated. There is also the update monitor allowing you to intercept, view, edit and commit any changes done as they happen. You see exactly what is modified (using diff) and can reject the change. It is a nice way to learn what is going on. This module is not shipped by RedHat though (like everything we added since rh6). What you are refering is not quit-without-saving. It is quit without activating changes. When you quit from linuxconf, it performs some audit of the system. It checks every running services against their configuration files and can tell you if something is not up to date (is running an older configuration). Sometime, you do not want to enable new configuration immediatly because you have other duties to do (potentially on other servers). Thus the quit without activating the changes. Far too many people modify things here and there and forget which services has to be restarted. They generally end up rebooting and truely believe this is needed. Probably got the habit from another well known OS... - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] vserver: run general purpose virtual servers on one box, full speed! http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: linuxconf
I'm running RH7.1, and every time after I quit Linuxconf I get the = following. The following command told me something had to be done /etc/rc3.d/S55named probe Executing: /etc/rc3.d/S55named start RedHat /etc/init.d/named script is broken. Well, not exactly. the bind package improperly setup itself. The probe command simply checks if named is running. If this is not the case, it tells linuxconf that the service has to be started. The probe command is using the rndc command to query the named process but fails (for some reason, such as impropery key). Since it can't talk to named it assumes it is not running, so suggest to start the service. A quick solution is to edit /etc/init.d/named and find the probe) section and remove everything up to the ;; characters. This will shut up linuxconf. Another solution is to change the probe section by the following. eval `/bin/linuxconf --hint dnsconf` if [ $NAMED != ] ;then echo $NAMED fi This will tell you if the named currently running is in sync with the configuration on disk. Often, one do some modification in a service and forget to restart it and then wonder why the changes are not effective. This is the purpose of this screen and the probe command. Setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr to 1 This is required if you are using on demand connection such as PPP. It is useful to support properly remap the TCP session which triggers the first connection. - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] vserver: run general purpose virtual servers on one box, full speed! http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
i read about it being replaced due to some bugs in ittry webmin - Original Message - From: Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. Redhat doesn't support it anymore, but it is still available from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ if you happen to like it. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
Is it actually being replaced by Webmin? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Tan Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 i read about it being replaced due to some bugs in ittry webmin - Original Message - From: Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. Redhat doesn't support it anymore, but it is still available from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ if you happen to like it. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
No actually Nautilus is supposed to be a replacement, I don't quite like that program, but I guess that it may get better with time ??? Till then Webmin (http://www.webmin.com) is as many people say a better replacement. Aly. -- Aly Dharshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] System Administrator ORS Servers A good speech is like a good dress that's short enough to be interesting and long enough to cover the subject -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
u need to install webminu not using gui? if yes, try kontrol-panel - Original Message - From: cj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:39 PM Subject: RE: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 Is it actually being replaced by Webmin? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Tan Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 i read about it being replaced due to some bugs in ittry webmin - Original Message - From: Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. Redhat doesn't support it anymore, but it is still available from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ if you happen to like it. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
- Original Message - From: Keith Morse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Redhat doesn't support it anymore, but it is still available from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ if you happen to like it. When did RH even try to support it? They just gave it a bad rap by disabling modules, not assisting Jacques into make it compatible with the next version, yadda yadda yadda. -eric -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
When did RH even try to support it? They just gave it a bad rap by disabling modules, not assisting Jacques into make it compatible with the next version, yadda yadda yadda. -eric They're doing the same thing with KDE too. I think it's disgusting what they're doing to KDE in Null! Anthony -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
use webmin for remote configuration in Linux (via web interface). - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. \Jonny Axelsson -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Moin, moin ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. LinuxConf is for any reason now part of RH 7.3. If you want an easy to use Configuration Tool then you should use WebMin. URL: http://www.webmin.com/ Download #1: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin-0.990-1.noarch.rpm? download Download #2: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin-0.990.tar.gz?downlo ad -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPXcWmb0cyHn1aB8jEQJWkgCg9Nw43PB3iXHJ/0x2vbhOXu2cRc8An2EU uZtTl+NE9vvVqdlS+ChIJhHB =8XHM -END PGP SIGNATURE- kind regards Martin Mewes -- Novacote Flexpack, Hamburg - IT/IS-Department - Germany PGP-key: http://www.mamemu.de/key.asc Key has been sent to: europe.keys.pgp.com Fingerprint: 40CF EF71 E891 E551 CBE1 4C99 BD1C C879 F568 1F23 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Moin, moin ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. I wrote: cite LinuxConf is for any reason now part of RH 7.3. If you want an easy to use Configuration Tool then you should use WebMin. /cite This is wrong: /s/now/not thankx -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPXcza70cyHn1aB8jEQKYTACghsPjnx89qXLxzG/apx4Qicyg5kUAnRzL 27GDwmMNIShUEAzz4vUQzC6M =uz81 -END PGP SIGNATURE- kind regards Martin Mewes -- Novacote Flexpack, Hamburg - IT/IS-Department - Germany PGP-key: http://www.mamemu.de/key.asc Key has been sent to: europe.keys.pgp.com Fingerprint: 40CF EF71 E891 E551 CBE1 4C99 BD1C C879 F568 1F23 -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
Don't forget to enable ssl. Otherwise it's communicating unsecured. webmin has a utility to install ssl which pulls a perl module to do it. Once you,ve installed and enabled ssl, the url to the server changes from http to https. Fred Teodor Georgiev wrote: use webmin for remote configuration in Linux (via web interface). - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. \Jonny Axelsson -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf in RedHat 7.3
On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any replacement for linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 or why is it removed in this release. Redhat doesn't support it anymore, but it is still available from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ if you happen to like it. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
At 05:43 PM 16-08-02, you wrote: Does linuxconf not exist with RedHat 7.3? Is there a replacement utility? I could not find it when I did the workstation or server installation. Sometimes it helps to RTFM: From RELEASE-NOTES: quote The following applications and packages not previously mentioned have been removed from Red Hat Linux 7.3: * enlightenment * ext2ed * fnlib * gnome-pim * isapnptools * kaffe * libodbc++ * linuxconf * lout * mawk * p2c * ttfm * xmorph * xmailbox * xrn * xsysinfo /quote Try webmin. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 17:43, Robert Vaughn wrote: Does linuxconf not exist with RedHat 7.3? Is there a replacement utility? I could not find it when I did the workstation or server installation. Thanks, ...Robert Redhat no longer ships Linuxconf with 7.3, however it's still alive and kicking. You can download it from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ Anthony -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? Linuxconf can be downloaded and installed from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ Anthony On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 18:10, Saul Arias wrote: At 05:43 PM 16-08-02, you wrote: Does linuxconf not exist with RedHat 7.3? Is there a replacement utility? I could not find it when I did the workstation or server installation. Sometimes it helps to RTFM: From RELEASE-NOTES: quote The following applications and packages not previously mentioned have been removed from Red Hat Linux 7.3: * enlightenment * ext2ed * fnlib * gnome-pim * isapnptools * kaffe * libodbc++ * linuxconf * lout * mawk * p2c * ttfm * xmorph * xmailbox * xrn * xsysinfo /quote Try webmin. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
One point I neglected to point out. Linuxconf is actually comprised of several RPMs if you want the full GUI. Here's a description of the packages from their Redhat download page. linuxconf: This is the main package. Everyone needs it. You do not need any X library to use it. linuxconf-gui: This is an optional GUI front-end. It works on any distributions gnome-linuxconf: This is another GUI front-end. Pick this one or linuxconf-gui. It works on recent distributions. Note that many distribution ships an outdated version of gnome-linuxconf. linuxconf-lang-XX: This provides the language translations English is included in the first package. linuxconf-devel: This provides the tools and libraries needed by module developpers. linuxconf-lib: This is the runtime for independant utilities using the Linuxconf devel toolkit. linuxconf-util: This a a set of optional utilities, shellmod, for one. linuxconf-X: This contains various modules useful to configure X (mouse and keyboard) HTH Anthony On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 18:41, Anthony Abby wrote: This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? Linuxconf can be downloaded and installed from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/ Anthony -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
At 06:41 PM 16-08-02, Anthony Abby wrote: This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? I apologize. Allow me to point the guy in the right direction: 1. Open your web browser. 2. Type www.google.com in the address bar (without quotes). Hit Enter 3. Type where is linuxconf in redhat 7.3 in the input box (with the quotes this time) 4. Click with your mouse on the Google Search button 5. Click with your mouse on the following link that will appear as the first search result: Computing.Net - Where is linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 6. Read I once was also a new person trying to learn Linux. However, I wasn't as lazy as to not try to find the answer by myself before posting to this list. Why was my response of no help? I answered his two questions by clearly stating that linuxconf has been removed from RH 73 and that I suggest he tried webmin, which is easier and more powerful than linuxconf, IMHO. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
RedHat had to have had reasons for taking it out. Possible incompatibilities? IMHO pointing someone in the direction of a piece of software replaced in the distro is only a good idea after the current (replacement) tools have been explored. --rje -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Saul Arias Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3 At 06:41 PM 16-08-02, Anthony Abby wrote: This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? I apologize. Allow me to point the guy in the right direction: 1. Open your web browser. 2. Type www.google.com in the address bar (without quotes). Hit Enter 3. Type where is linuxconf in redhat 7.3 in the input box (with the quotes this time) 4. Click with your mouse on the Google Search button 5. Click with your mouse on the following link that will appear as the first search result: Computing.Net - Where is linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 6. Read I once was also a new person trying to learn Linux. However, I wasn't as lazy as to not try to find the answer by myself before posting to this list. Why was my response of no help? I answered his two questions by clearly stating that linuxconf has been removed from RH 73 and that I suggest he tried webmin, which is easier and more powerful than linuxconf, IMHO. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:31:58 -0700 Rob Emanuele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RedHat had to have had reasons for taking it out. Possible incompatibilities? IMHO pointing someone in the direction of a piece of software replaced in the distro is only a good idea after the current (replacement) tools have been explored. --rje Many users complained about it messing up config files, including yours truly. There were quite a few, and I'm sure that was a major force for dropping it altogether. It was still on the CD on 7.1, maybe 7.2, but it wasn't installed on any install except an everything install. It was mentioned that it was going away. Now it has. But, just like many other things that used to be included and no longer are (xv among them), one can still locate and install them. Linuxconf is still actively maintained for Redhat. It just doesn't get included. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Saul Arias Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3 At 06:41 PM 16-08-02, Anthony Abby wrote: This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? I apologize. Allow me to point the guy in the right direction: 1. Open your web browser. 2. Type www.google.com in the address bar (without quotes). Hit Enter 3. Type where is linuxconf in redhat 7.3 in the input box (with the quotes this time) 4. Click with your mouse on the Google Search button 5. Click with your mouse on the following link that will appear as the first search result: Computing.Net - Where is linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 6. Read I once was also a new person trying to learn Linux. However, I wasn't as lazy as to not try to find the answer by myself before posting to this list. Why was my response of no help? I answered his two questions by clearly stating that linuxconf has been removed from RH 73 and that I suggest he tried webmin, which is easier and more powerful than linuxconf, IMHO. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Everything you know is wrong. But some of it is a useful first approximation. -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
I think this question is not so easy to answer as it might seem. There have in fact been some problems with LinxConf in the past, but in it's defense I think that was more the case because there have been so many changes in configuration files etc when you build a utility that does as much as it does it can become cumbersome keeping up with the development inherent in the different distros. Case in point was the shift from Redhat 6.2 to 7.0. Does anyone not remember all the grousing about Redhat's changes in 7.0?? I installed Linuxconf on 7.3 and it works great for me. Have yet to encounter an error. Anthony On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 19:31, Rob Emanuele wrote: RedHat had to have had reasons for taking it out. Possible incompatibilities? IMHO pointing someone in the direction of a piece of software replaced in the distro is only a good idea after the current (replacement) tools have been explored. --rje -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3
a lot of bugs. development for the utility was stopped, correct me if im just misinformed. though u can still use another tool which is 'webmin'. Try google.com/linux, it's a much more linux friendly search engine Rob Emanuele wrote: RedHat had to have had reasons for taking it out. Possible incompatibilities? IMHO pointing someone in the direction of a piece of software replaced in the distro is only a good idea after the current (replacement) tools have been explored. --rje -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Saul Arias Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: LinuxConf - seems to have dissapeared with 7.3 At 06:41 PM 16-08-02, Anthony Abby wrote: This is the kind of answer that is really of no help to a new person trying to learn Linux. Instead of coming off like a hammer, why not just point the guy in the right direction??? I apologize. Allow me to point the guy in the right direction: 1. Open your web browser. 2. Type www.google.com in the address bar (without quotes). Hit Enter 3. Type where is linuxconf in redhat 7.3 in the input box (with the quotes this time) 4. Click with your mouse on the Google Search button 5. Click with your mouse on the following link that will appear as the first search result: Computing.Net - Where is linuxconf in RedHat 7.3 6. Read I once was also a new person trying to learn Linux. However, I wasn't as lazy as to not try to find the answer by myself before posting to this list. Why was my response of no help? I answered his two questions by clearly stating that linuxconf has been removed from RH 73 and that I suggest he tried webmin, which is easier and more powerful than linuxconf, IMHO. -- Saul Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf - segmentation fault ( core dumped )
Here recently, linuxconf had a problem parsing the RH network settings files and core dumped. Grab the lastest linuxconf from: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/download.hc -eric wood - Original Message - From: kutbuddin ali hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, when i try to run Linuxconf it gives me following error. segmentation fault ( core dumped ) please help. thanks ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf - segmentation fault ( core dumped )
Here recently, linuxconf had a problem parsing the RH network settings files and core dumped. Grab the lastest linuxconf from: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/download.hc -eric wood - Original Message - From: kutbuddin ali hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, when i try to run Linuxconf it gives me following error. segmentation fault ( core dumped ) please help. thanks ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf - segmentation fault ( core dumped )
Here recently, linuxconf had a problem parsing the RH network settings files and core dumped. Grab the lastest linuxconf from: http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/download.hc -eric wood - Original Message - From: kutbuddin ali hussain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, when i try to run Linuxconf it gives me following error. segmentation fault ( core dumped ) please help. thanks ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post)
Not as intuitive as netconf (linuxconf). It ask me to setup networking, when its already setup. No options for hostname or device drivers. -Devon -Original Message- From: Anthony E. Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-May-2002/15:51 -0400, Devon Harding - GTHLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a tool for command line instead of X? /usr/sbin/netconfig Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D iD8DBQE87aU/pCpg3WyUI50RAoDTAJ4xp+3wWC59zos0BbgeetOPjsWmsgCeM62W t9zNGBvFoXpZhij4HUiyu7E= =ND+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20-May-2002/15:51 -0400, Devon Harding - GTHLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a tool for command line instead of X? /usr/sbin/netconfig Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D iD8DBQE87aU/pCpg3WyUI50RAoDTAJ4xp+3wWC59zos0BbgeetOPjsWmsgCeM62W t9zNGBvFoXpZhij4HUiyu7E= =ND+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post)
Is there a tool for command line instead of X? -Devon -Original Message- From: Robert Moses [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post) Sorry. I just scanned the archive and saw the discussion about redhat-config-network thank ahead of time -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf in RH 7.3 ??? alternatives? (2nd post)
Sorry. I just scanned the archive and saw the discussion about redhat-config-network thank ahead of time -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf and 7.3
try redhat-config-network -Original Message- From: Jake McHenry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linuxconf and 7.3 Hi, I just installed 7.3, everything going good so far, but I can't get the hostname set correctly. What happened to linuxconf? I used that before to set up the network info, but I can't find it on any of the cd's. What can I use in place of linuxconf? I tried using just hostname and domainname and dnsdomainname, but apache still says it can't determine the hostname and my email isn't working properly. Please let me know... Thanks, Jake ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf - X problem
On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Hanny Tidore [EMAIL PROTECTED] quietly intimated: Hellp; I have the following error whenever I start linuxconf: Error messages from remadin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Error messages from remadin :Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to server Error messages from remadin :Error messages from remadin :Xlib: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks. As the user (not root) in a terminal: xhost +localhost Then try running linuxconf as root again. NOTE: don't put a space between the plus (+) and localhost. Doing so makes it (the desktop) accept all hosts!!! This is the same as typing xhost + and isn't something one wants to have on by default. -- Capital punishment means never having to say YOU AGAIN? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf - X problem :problem solved
Thanks. It works. --- ABrady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 16:50:26 -0700 (PDT) Hanny Tidore [EMAIL PROTECTED] quietly intimated: Hellp; I have the following error whenever I start linuxconf: Error messages from remadin :Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Error messages from remadin :Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to server Error messages from remadin :Error messages from remadin :Xlib: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 Thanks. As the user (not root) in a terminal: xhost +localhost Then try running linuxconf as root again. NOTE: don't put a space between the plus (+) and localhost. Doing so makes it (the desktop) accept all hosts!!! This is the same as typing xhost + and isn't something one wants to have on by default. -- Capital punishment means never having to say YOU AGAIN? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: Linuxconf: undefined symbol: jpeg_destroy
Hi, I have compiled Apache (using Apachetoolbox), with PHP, using GD library on RH 7.2. Since then my linuxconf is broken: linuxconf: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgd.so.1.8: undefined symbol: jpeg_destroy jpeg_destroy is part of the libjpeg library, which is used by libgd. If you do (on a rh7.2 box) ldd /usr/lib/libgd.so.1 you get libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40048000) - libjpeg.so.62 = /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x4007c000) libpng.so.2 = /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4009b000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x400bc000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x400cb000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400ed000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000) Then if you do nm /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 | grep jpeg_destroy you get 00019a30 T jpeg_destroy 26f0 T jpeg_destroy_compress bf70 T jpeg_destroy_decompress which shows the library indeed contains the symbols. It sounds like you have upgrade some part of your system, potentially breaking libjpeg. Now anything using libgd end up failing because libgd requires libjpeg. Linuxconf compiles and works fine on a vanilla rh7.2 - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] vserver: run general purpose virtual servers on one box, full speed! http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf conundrum!
Check /etc/passwd, and see if her shell is set to /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash. On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, rob wrote: Hi folks, I'm running RH 7.0, and I'm experiencing a perplexing problem. What I did was: 1) I created a new user in linuxconf called 'carolyn' 2) The main group is 'carolyn' 3) alternative group is 'mcclear' 4) home directory is '/var/www/html/www.mollyjohnson.com' 5) I exited from linuxconf after creating a new password 6) Ownership of the directories is 'carolyn.mcclear' 7) permissions on the directories are 755 What happens incorrectly is: If I try to 'su carolyn', the prompt I get is 'bash-2.04$' instead of 'carolyn@athena /root$' Any ideas? Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm self-taught in Linux. This summer I'm going to take the RHCE courses, and when I'm done perhaps I'll be able to help with answering dumb questions like this one! Thanks in advance, Rob Yale ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf conundrum!
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Mike Burger wrote: Check /etc/passwd, and see if her shell is set to /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash. No, Linuxconf didn't add the -m option to useradd. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf conundrum!
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, rob wrote: If I try to 'su carolyn', the prompt I get is 'bash-2.04$' instead of 'carolyn@athena /root$' Try su - carolyn ? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf conundrum!
Same result when I try su - carolyn. By the way, this doesn't happen with other users. Thanks, Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Crawford Sent: April 10, 2002 11:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf conundrum! On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, rob wrote: If I try to 'su carolyn', the prompt I get is 'bash-2.04$' instead of 'carolyn@athena /root$' Try su - carolyn ? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf conundrum!
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, rob wrote: Same result when I try su - carolyn. By the way, this doesn't happen with other users. In that case you have a .bashrc that's different or missing. Perhaps this user was created differently, or has removed the file. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf conundrum!
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:02:48 -0400 rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm running RH 7.0, and I'm experiencing a perplexing problem. What I did was: 1) I created a new user in linuxconf called 'carolyn' 2) The main group is 'carolyn' 3) alternative group is 'mcclear' 4) home directory is '/var/www/html/www.mollyjohnson.com' 5) I exited from linuxconf after creating a new password 6) Ownership of the directories is 'carolyn.mcclear' 7) permissions on the directories are 755 What happens incorrectly is: If I try to 'su carolyn', the prompt I get is 'bash-2.04$' instead of 'carolyn@athena /root$' Any ideas? When you add a newuser with useradd, it uses the /etc/skel to make the default /home/newuser setup. That means that each new user has a .bashrc and .bash-profile. There the user's name is exported with: export USERNAME BASH_ENV SHELL In linuxconf you just get to select /bin/bash at the shell. Check to see if she has a .bash_profile and what it reads. Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm self-taught in Linux. This summer I'm going to take the RHCE courses, and when I'm done perhaps I'll be able to help with answering dumb questions like this one! Share what you know, learn what you don't. The only trhing dumb is not asking :) Thanks in advance, Rob Yale Regards, Tom ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf conundrum!
Thanks! I deleted the user, and then re-created it while ensuring that I'd put the correct home directory in the first time around. It now works fine. Thanks again, Rob Yale -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom Pollerman Sent: April 11, 2002 1:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf conundrum! On Wed, 10 Apr 2002 22:02:48 -0400 rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I'm running RH 7.0, and I'm experiencing a perplexing problem. What I did was: 1) I created a new user in linuxconf called 'carolyn' 2) The main group is 'carolyn' 3) alternative group is 'mcclear' 4) home directory is '/var/www/html/www.mollyjohnson.com' 5) I exited from linuxconf after creating a new password 6) Ownership of the directories is 'carolyn.mcclear' 7) permissions on the directories are 755 What happens incorrectly is: If I try to 'su carolyn', the prompt I get is 'bash-2.04$' instead of 'carolyn@athena /root$' Any ideas? When you add a newuser with useradd, it uses the /etc/skel to make the default /home/newuser setup. That means that each new user has a .bashrc and .bash-profile. There the user's name is exported with: export USERNAME BASH_ENV SHELL In linuxconf you just get to select /bin/bash at the shell. Check to see if she has a .bash_profile and what it reads. Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm self-taught in Linux. This summer I'm going to take the RHCE courses, and when I'm done perhaps I'll be able to help with answering dumb questions like this one! Share what you know, learn what you don't. The only trhing dumb is not asking :) Thanks in advance, Rob Yale Regards, Tom ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
[Bloatmail snipped] On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:34:40PM -0600, JW wrote: Hey, no need to change, you were right the first time. emacs has an X Window mode too :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk - if you want to use emacs under X, use XEmacs... :-) Cheerio, Thomas -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ...'cause only lusers quote signatures! Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf Substitute?
Are we talkin about editors or linuxconf ?? I thought linuxconf was cool i upgraded to RH 7.2 and installed linuxconf too ... Although editing the files is ok but its pretty tiresome when ur changin things quite often ... occassionally when X dies i go back to vi ... but for linuxconf is a must for everyday stuff i remember havin to relearn how to do :wq in vi though ... ;-) if anyone wants a substitute for linuxconf shipped with RH i suggest downloading installing the real linuxconf from the linuxconf site itself ... Cheers Ani Linux is what Linux Does --- Anon -Original Message- From: Thomas Ribbrock [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute? [Bloatmail snipped] On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 05:34:40PM -0600, JW wrote: Hey, no need to change, you were right the first time. emacs has an X Window mode too :-) Tsk, tsk, tsk - if you want to use emacs under X, use XEmacs... :-) Cheerio, Thomas -- http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ...'cause only lusers quote signatures! Thomas Ribbrock | http://www.ribbrock.org | ICQ#: 15839919 You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ** This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. ** ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
What's kills me is that RH deprecates Linuxconf in there docs and has no substitute - what a testimony! In fact, RH always ships a outdated version of LC, with most of the modules disabled. RH never has considered pulling the latest LC down from Jacques' site which he made compatible with the new distribution. Therefor the end result is a lot of newbie's getting a bad first impression of LC. Indeed Ani, always rpm -e linxconf*/gnome-linuxconf* from RH and download the real stuff from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/. My question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can only do fewer things. -eric wood - Original Message - From: Ani_Adarsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought linuxconf was cool i upgraded to RH 7.2 and installed linuxconf too ... ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17 Jan 2002, Bret Hughes posted the following: BHSpeaking of the shell-scripting list I guess chuck locked down hie mail BHserver REALLY tight. I can not longer post to it or sen him a mail to BHcomplain about it. I think it is because I use a sendmail server that BHsits on my private ip network. Verio handles incomming mail for us but BHthey piss and moan about sending it. I hate to change because I like BHhaving the sent OK in my logs if the mail made it to the recipents BHserver. Of course it may be a procmail rule that bounces all mail from BHbhughes.* :( The spam was getting real bad. I've got postfix rejecting mail from MTA's which have broken reverse DNS. - -- csm Dmitry is free! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! Stop the SSSCA! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxG3ekACgkQv6Gjsf2pQ0rc7gCcDdRc8NvaWE0d9KzE2vMLWQR8 AnQAniXXkjltAfEzvF0QRqSSYqde2KHR =4fti -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
At 1/17/2002 09:02 AM -0500, you wrote: My question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can only do fewer things. I use Webmin extensively to run about five servers in three countries. It has *never* (repeat, *never*) broken anything. It runs in my browser, with SSL encryption. It does everything I need it to do, and it does so well. Linuxconf broke my sendmail 30 seconds after I first tried it. Throughout the years (since RedHat 3.0.3) I've used both the RH LC and the author's LC a few times. Each time I had problems. After about five tries, I quit banging my head against the wall. Linuxconf is dead to me, period, end of story. I get enough shit from Windows without having something break my perfectly-good Linux too. -- Rodolfo J. Paiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Rodolfo J. Paiz posted the following: RJPAt 1/17/2002 09:02 AM -0500, you wrote: RJPMy question is to all, what can webmin do that LC can't? I've found it can RJPonly do fewer things. RJP RJPI use Webmin extensively to run about five servers in three countries. It RJPhas *never* (repeat, *never*) broken anything. It runs in my browser, with RJPSSL encryption. It does everything I need it to do, and it does so well. RJP RJPLinuxconf broke my sendmail 30 seconds after I first tried it. Throughout RJPthe years (since RedHat 3.0.3) I've used both the RH LC and the author's LC RJPa few times. Each time I had problems. After about five tries, I quit RJPbanging my head against the wall. Linuxconf is dead to me, period, end of RJPstory. I get enough shit from Windows without having something break my RJPperfectly-good Linux too. Yeah. What he said... :-) - -- csm Dmitry is free! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! Stop the SSSCA! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxG74QACgkQv6Gjsf2pQ0qGyACgq5cZljjq+kKf5QrZd4J4Vj0n /8UAnjx2XA6v6ed/ESXAZdBEobTrLs9/ =d6Uo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Jan 2002, Bret Hughes wrote: On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 18:40, Anthony E. Greene wrote: That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I use gvim --reverse I tried gvim, but I like being able to drop out and get a command line. I also do a lot of work via ssh from boxes that do not run X. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ PGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D Chat: AOL/Yahoo: TonyG05 Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D iD8DBQE8R6OApCpg3WyUI50RAtsRAJ0Swk6RicvXIlEa2f4UVgCaXC6+/QCg+V+d 7P7rWuIKVN/LZXCdWySfD2g= =qLLN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Edward Dekkers wrote: Let's be serious, what is wrong with a tool that does everything? We were all brought up on .conf files, we learn them, know them, etc. But really.why the necessity? Why try to remember the syntax of every single .conf file? With 10 + services running at least it IS NOT easy to remember where everything goes for the occasional administrator or newbie. The real strength of conf files is the ability to include comments and examples. I make a habit of adding comments to conf files that do not include them by default. On systems where a junior admin may have fly solo I am very generous with comments that explain my reasons for setting things up a certain way. My own comments have come in handy when I've needed to change things around leaving them alone for a while. Try that with a GUI. Ticking boxes in the other non-operating system I won't mention causes things to go in one database called the registry. Really the registry is just one big database of config files. We never bother trying to read the registry, because it's almost as confusing as some config files. Okay, sendmail.cf is opaque, but it's not supposed to be hand-edited. The source mc file is a lot more readable, as it should be. Now compare smb.conf or http.conf to the the equivalent settings in the Windows registry. When editing crontab, the first thing I do is add the format as an example. With some other files, I comment out the default setting and add my own setting immediately below it, sometimes with a comment explaining why I changed the default. If you don't take advantage of the ability to use comments, you're missing out on an important feature and just making things hard on yourself and whoever else may need to maintain the box. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ PGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D Chat: AOL/Yahoo: TonyG05 Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0x6C94239D iD8DBQE8R6E3pCpg3WyUI50RAor1AJ9vY6/Pv3n0vrMBoy4Ga4xKpMmF4QCfZiPR XuJZ1o2RgvYzmYrmvGjOqyQ= =AWMv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Montgomery wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. vi. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEX/rL9BpdPKTBGtEQI8AACfew4aNKregbMt94+CNwe0smTmZNEAoO1Y yfaWD7eNhfolf8GNg/27iby4 =c/+J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington posted the following: DTBEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- DTHash: SHA1 DT DTChris Montgomery wrote: DT DTDumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This DTisn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. DT DTvi. emacs - -- csm Dmitry is free! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! Stop the SSSCA! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxGAjYACgkQv6Gjsf2pQ0rqEwCcDhYhesizAJ9goLBkFsPfY201 jxEAoLY2bn8r/YvvgscXp294eABf2old =hRZW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Mead wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington posted the following: DTBEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- DTHash: SHA1 DT DTChris Montgomery wrote: DT DTDumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This DTisn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. DT DTvi. emacs Don't start with me, mister. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEYDPb9BpdPKTBGtEQI2DgCdFBDBDAAkNL0fICqRsj2EzCI4rysAnRTr d8YZZll0O8erbR2PAlpwYwWf =u3OV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x windows. Remember, newbie here. :) Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Montgomery wrote: I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x windows. Remember, newbie here. :) gvim. - -d [waits for the other shoe to drop] - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEYKWr9BpdPKTBGtEQICkQCg8HgZMBzsuP1BP7267+HXgStPNkAAnRSP 2HpXyorI74j14oeri9JbzjN7 =089/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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At 03:18 PM 1/16/2002 -0800, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Montgomery wrote: I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x windows. Remember, newbie here. :) gvim. - -d [waits for the other shoe to drop] Hey, no need to change, you were right the first time. emacs has an X Window mode too :-) I volunteer YaST2 as a substitute for linuxconf. ;-) - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEYKWr9BpdPKTBGtEQICkQCg8HgZMBzsuP1BP7267+HXgStPNkAAnRSP 2HpXyorI74j14oeri9JbzjN7 =089/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Jonathan Wilson System Administrator Cedar Creek Software http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com Central Texas IT http://www.centraltexasit.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
Webmin. You can get it at http://www.webmin.com mw Chris Montgomery wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. TIA, Chris ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote: Chris Montgomery wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) Tony -- Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ PGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D Chat: AOL/Yahoo: TonyG05 Linux. The choice of a GNU generation http://www.linux.org/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:10:08 -0600 Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] implied: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. Commandline. Linuxconf is available in 7.1. But, it's still dangerous to some config files and permissions get changed sometimes. I thought it was over that in 7.1 and after. Then someone else stated problems they were having, and later it happened to me again. -- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ABrady wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. Commandline. Linuxconf is available in 7.1. But, it's still dangerous to some config files and permissions get changed sometimes. I thought it was over that in 7.1 and after. Then someone else stated problems they were having, and later it happened to me again. Indeed. The point we, the smartasses, were making is that Linuxconf is a good idea that just happens to be a bad idea. With all due respect to its author, who undertook an incredibly ambitious task, it's just too flaky in practice. Further -- and though I freely admit that this is a philosophical matter and not a technical one, I know that many here share the sentiment -- tools like Linuxconf teach you little or nothing about the system, and that's not helpful to you in the long run. I hasten to add that one genuinely good use for front ends like that is to watch what they do to the actual configuration files, and learn from it. (Learning to configure fetchmail is a whole lot easier when you see how fetchmailconf builds a .fetchmailrc, for instance.) I just don't think Linuxconf is the best tool for that. So may we counter your question with one of our own: with what configuration, specifically, would you like assistance? - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEYv1b9BpdPKTBGtEQLTBQCgtHkJNha1oOMLD9ikfSYNmLUCimoAoJYH O8khWbPmnykG7UVOErLIsjvj =f9ZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:09:53 -0600 Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have asked if there is another option that runs under x windows. Remember, newbie here. :) Webmin seems to be a popular choice. Runs its own little webserver, has the potential for using secure connections (default is un-encrypted). Check it out at: http://www.webmin.com/webmin HTH, Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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I thought you guy's banter was rather amusing. You need a good sense of humor in this business! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Talkington Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ABrady wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. Commandline. Linuxconf is available in 7.1. But, it's still dangerous to some config files and permissions get changed sometimes. I thought it was over that in 7.1 and after. Then someone else stated problems they were having, and later it happened to me again. Indeed. The point we, the smartasses, were making is that Linuxconf is a good idea that just happens to be a bad idea. With all due respect to its author, who undertook an incredibly ambitious task, it's just too flaky in practice. Further -- and though I freely admit that this is a philosophical matter and not a technical one, I know that many here share the sentiment -- tools like Linuxconf teach you little or nothing about the system, and that's not helpful to you in the long run. I hasten to add that one genuinely good use for front ends like that is to watch what they do to the actual configuration files, and learn from it. (Learning to configure fetchmail is a whole lot easier when you see how fetchmailconf builds a .fetchmailrc, for instance.) I just don't think Linuxconf is the best tool for that. So may we counter your question with one of our own: with what configuration, specifically, would you like assistance? - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEYv1b9BpdPKTBGtEQLTBQCgtHkJNha1oOMLD9ikfSYNmLUCimoAoJYH O8khWbPmnykG7UVOErLIsjvj =f9ZL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
Indeed. The point we, the smartasses, were making is that Linuxconf is a good idea that just happens to be a bad idea. With all due respect to its author, who undertook an incredibly ambitious task, it's just too flaky in practice. Further -- and though I freely admit that this is a philosophical matter and not a technical one, I know that many here share the sentiment -- tools like Linuxconf teach you little or nothing about the system, and that's not helpful to you in the long run. My 0.2c Agreed on the above. HOWEVER!!! Let's be serious, what is wrong with a tool that does everything? We were all brought up on .conf files, we learn them, know them, etc. But really.why the necessity? Why try to remember the syntax of every single .conf file? With 10 + services running at least it IS NOT easy to remember where everything goes for the occasional administrator or newbie. Whether we tick some boxes in a GUI, or write 5 odd statements in a config file, does it really matter how they actually translate? They both perform the same job right? Ticking boxes in the other non-operating system I won't mention causes things to go in one database called the registry. Really the registry is just one big database of config files. We never bother trying to read the registry, because it's almost as confusing as some config files. I mean, sendmail.cf comes to mind. Look at the mail rules at the back of the file and pretend you've never seen it before. It really is a mess. We all use a macro processor file to write the cf file so we don't have to deal with that stuff right? Sorry for this bit of ramble, but my opinion is that just because it's not hard core or 'the way it was done' doesn't mean it shouldn't be done like that. I really do think it IS all a little backwards and not exactly progression. Imagine all the newbie questions dissappearing off this list for starters about where things are. Just another view. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Dekkers wrote: Imagine all the newbie questions dissappearing off this list for starters about where things are. And imagine all the other newbie questions appearing from guys who have no idea how to fix things when the GUI falls down or isn't complete. As for that other operating system, if you don't have a good registry reference, you should! No argument, Mr. Dekkers, that GUIs are helpful. I just think it's a mistake to _rely_ on them. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEZEvr9BpdPKTBGtEQKU9wCcDCELVq6qQtNhqc5CI+BZs9AhfscAn3BF NFdY3jqP4dL4zDSed0H3a/Hi =H8Aj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
RE: Linuxconf Substitute?
A funny quote I saw today: Windows is an OS that can be administered by an idiot - and usually is. Actually, I'm not really all that anti-Windows, but I've run into so many NT admins that thought they knew alot about computers. Turns out they had been working in computers about six months and had a whopping four weeks of MSCE training classes. Before that they were carpet salemen or something... Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Talkington Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linuxconf Substitute? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Dekkers wrote: Imagine all the newbie questions dissappearing off this list for starters about where things are. And imagine all the other newbie questions appearing from guys who have no idea how to fix things when the GUI falls down or isn't complete. As for that other operating system, if you don't have a good registry reference, you should! No argument, Mr. Dekkers, that GUIs are helpful. I just think it's a mistake to _rely_ on them. - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEZEvr9BpdPKTBGtEQKU9wCcDCELVq6qQtNhqc5CI+BZs9AhfscAn3BF NFdY3jqP4dL4zDSed0H3a/Hi =H8Aj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Edward Dekkers posted the following: EDSorry for this bit of ramble, but my opinion is that just because it's not EDhard core or 'the way it was done' doesn't mean it shouldn't be done like EDthat. I really do think it IS all a little backwards and not exactly EDprogression. I think the point that both David and were making (he said it whilst I thunk it :-) is that linuxconf isn't safe or robust enough to use. I don't actually have anything against GUI config tools as long as they work well but I cannot say that about linuxconf and I've lost track of how many times I've heard people complain about changes they've made to their sendmail config dissappearing after a reboot and a small pile of other broken behavior that linuxconf was responsible for. Some of the new GUI tools RH has put into 7.2 work quite well and I haven't gotten rid of them so it;'s not GUI's I am opposed to... it's broken GUI's I have a problem with. David also has a point when he says that this type of GUI might be harmful if used as a crutch. It's always better (IMHO) to actually know what your system is doing without adding an additional layer of complexity. - -- csm Dmitry is free! Boycott Adobe! Repeal the DMCA! Stop the SSSCA! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxGTMgACgkQv6Gjsf2pQ0oQxwCbBaCc5aIcNWJdtlDiRwGrYzLo qBwAniC05AFSV1JSL95k6mx/HklO6OXj =PurP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
I hasten to add that one genuinely good use for front ends like that is to watch what they do to the actual configuration files, and learn from it. (Learning to configure fetchmail is a whole lot easier when you see how fetchmailconf builds a .fetchmailrc, for instance.) I just don't think Linuxconf is the best tool for that. Indeed, linuxconf does just that. In graphical mode, you have a pane at the bottom showing all files modified. For each file, you can view the diff between the new version and the old version browse the RCS archive (linuxconf archive configuration file in RCS) Recover the old version or any version in the RCS archive Just plain edit the file Unfortunatly, while this stuff is old, redhat is not shipping it. You can even turn interactive update on. A popup shows up with a diff every time you modify a file with Linuxconf. You are free to accept the change, reject it (nothing will be written) or even modify the change using an editor. There is also another log showing every commands made by linuxconf and why. Oddly, all the argument about front-end not helping you learn is so odd. I am receiving mail every week from people who really learned linux through Linuxconf (not the one ship by redhat mind you). Some even learned using linuxconf and for some task, they used an editor, for some stick with Linuxconf and for some, uses both. I suggest you read http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/framework.hc Good day! - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] vserver: run general purpose virtual servers on one box, full speed! http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf Substitute?
On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 18:40, Anthony E. Greene wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, David Talkington wrote: Chris Montgomery wrote: Dumb newbie question, but what do people use in place of linuxconf? This isn't installed, by default, for my RH7.1 system. vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I use gvim --reverse :) Oh yeah I also use webmin for the real point and click stuff. Really amazing what it can do. It has not hosed anything yet. I was a linuxconf fan for many things but don't let it get near httpd.conf! Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bret Hughes wrote: vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I use gvim --reverse For the curious, Brother Hughes didn't mean that: d1-11:dtalk 448 $ gvim --reverse VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:31:12) Unknown option: --reverse More info with: vim -h He really meant: d1-11:dtalk 449 $ gvim -reverse ;-) - -d - -- David Talkington PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/0xCA4C11AD.pgp - -- http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/pale_blue_dot.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQA/AwUBPEZb7L9BpdPKTBGtEQKejgCg2hbZEKD0RXIvw9ZNpGki+JdQn3QAn1V/ ROlgxr05zIEvZhD1G+3zxG7L =2piJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 January 2002 12:06 am, David Talkington wrote: Bret Hughes wrote: vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I use gvim --reverse For the curious, Brother Hughes didn't mean that: d1-11:dtalk 448 $ gvim --reverse VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:31:12) Unknown option: --reverse More info with: vim -h He really meant: d1-11:dtalk 449 $ gvim -reverse Yes, works exactly as I expected here: [devon@tuxfan devon]$ gvim -reverse bash: gvim: command not found Hrmm, he must have been thinking 'emacs -r' ;) - -D - -- pgp key: http://www.tuxfan.homeip.net:8080/pgpkey.txt - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8RmCOeMAUbzJhSVcRAg/cAJ9qCdzZmpbncV8kIcLoRY2UXpktLQCgieuy rQYBzrQvFTPEmbxjDhJavEQ= =tvvJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
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On Wed, 2002-01-16 at 23:06, David Talkington wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bret Hughes wrote: vi. That's for old timers. These days, people want more than an old text editor like vi. That's why I switched to vim ;-) I gave up on the old text based stuff now that I user real machines. I use gvim --reverse For the curious, Brother Hughes didn't mean that: d1-11:dtalk 448 $ gvim --reverse VIM - Vi IMproved 5.8 (2001 May 31, compiled Aug 7 2001 10:31:12) Unknown option: --reverse More info with: vim -h He really meant: d1-11:dtalk 449 $ gvim -reverse you are absolutely correct. I still remember how excited I got when I found gvim. There iis a thread in this or the shell-scripting list that documents my giddyness. I am WAY to easily amused. Speaking of the shell-scripting list I guess chuck locked down hie mail server REALLY tight. I can not longer post to it or sen him a mail to complain about it. I think it is because I use a sendmail server that sits on my private ip network. Verio handles incomming mail for us but they piss and moan about sending it. I hate to change because I like having the sent OK in my logs if the mail made it to the recipents server. Of course it may be a procmail rule that bounces all mail from bhughes.* :( BRet ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Linuxconf [was: having problems configuring network cards]
On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 06:37:57PM -0500, Devon wrote: Linuxconf has been depreciated since Red Hat Linux 7.1, I believe. It is still included on the install disks, but is not installed by default on a new install. Thanks, that's good to know. I rarely used it so I won't miss it. :) My configuration tool of choice is my handy text editor, combined with the documentation for whatever I am attempting to configure. Seems to cause less trouble than anything else, and I know that I get the configuration I intended. Agreed. I usually run into trouble when I try to setup something completely from scratch, but if I already have something to go on, I would much rather hand-edit the config files. I was somewhat worried that 7.2 was going to be less friendly in that regard. Given the GUI-centric trend, I have this fear that they are going to phase out the shell scripts and text config files in place of something which can't be so easily tweaked. I don't mind user friendly GUI frontends as long as that's all they are. Regards, Ben -- Ben Logan: ben at wblogan dot net OpenPGP Key KeyID: A1ADD1F0 I don't care for the Sugar Smacks commercial. I don't like the idea of a frog jumping on my Breakfast. -- Lowell, Chicago Reader 10/15/82 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf in inetd
Then all my PCs are root-kit'ed. 'Cause it happened regularly to me until I rpm -e'd linuxconf. I haven't studied the source code of linuxconf, but when I run it *something* put back linuxconf in my inetd.conf files. Which, BTW, was the major reason why I stopped using linuxconf. Best regards Gustav Jacques Gelinas wrote: Now, as for the best way to disable linuxconfig, many on the list wil tell you to run "rpm -e linuxconf". That is the way I preferre to do it, but you can do it the way you have discribed as well. One thing to be aware of, unless you go into linuxconf and disable web access, it will put an entry back into /etc/inet.d the next time you run it. Linuxconf has never done this. Never. The rpm installation installs the services in inetd.conf if missing, but Linuxconf has never done such a thing. There is simply no code in linuxconf to insert itself in inetd.conf. Never was. -- pgp = Pretty Good Privacy. To get my public pgp key, send an e-mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit my web site at http://www.schaffter.com ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf in both inetd.conf and chkconfig
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Jack Byers wrote: On both my rhat 5.2 system and my rhat 6.2 system: linuxconf appears in /etc/inetd.conf and also appears as a result of /sbin/chkconfig --list I was under the impression that in general, services were controlled by either inetd or were 'standalone daemons' controlled by chkconfig. ie not both inetd and chkconfig Am I wrong? What gives with linuxconf being used in both? I would like to turn off linuxconf and this seems easy enough just commenting it out in inetd.conf and turning it off with chkconfig. but again, do I have to do both? I will experiment with this of course but I would like to know general good practice thanks Jack The problem here is that linuxconf can be run in several modes. When it is run from /etc/rc.d/init.d, it is not being launched as a daemon. It is being run to check/change systems settings, and then it exits. When it is launched from inetd.it is being run for remote administration of the system, and is indeed being run as a daemon. (It exits when the connection is closed.) Now, as for the best way to disable linuxconfig, many on the list wil tell you to run "rpm -e linuxconf". That is the way I preferre to do it, but you can do it the way you have discribed as well. One thing to be aware of, unless you go into linuxconf and disable web access, it will put an entry back into /etc/inet.d the next time you run it. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: linuxconf in inetd
Now, as for the best way to disable linuxconfig, many on the list wil tell you to run "rpm -e linuxconf". That is the way I preferre to do it, but you can do it the way you have discribed as well. One thing to be aware of, unless you go into linuxconf and disable web access, it will put an entry back into /etc/inet.d the next time you run it. Linuxconf has never done this. Never. The rpm installation installs the services in inetd.conf if missing, but Linuxconf has never done such a thing. There is simply no code in linuxconf to insert itself in inetd.conf. Never was. -- - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nt2linux: NT to Linux migration kit http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
You can't answer "none" to the question "what is the *most* stable release"... I'm asking this as a person I know uses Linuxconf. He knows nothing about Linux. He doesn't want to use anything else. He is running the linuxconf that comes with RH6.2. I know there must be a bit more stable and fucntioning beast out there... A simple question to which I want a simple answer :) Peter Mike Burger wrote: None. Download Webmin from www.webmin.com...you'll be much happier for done so. On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: What is the most stable release of linuxconf that I should consider running on RH6.2? Cheers, Peter ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
The problem is that, in my experience, it is the correct answer. Linuxconf has a bad habit of overwriting configuration files which aren't even part of the changes a user was making. Webmin only makes the changes you request it to make, and has been a more stable and secure product. It's free, simple to use, and the only recommendation I can make for the situation at hand. I can not, from my experience, or the experiences of others which can be gleaned on this list (search the archives), or in good conscience, recommend any version of linuxconf as "stable" or even "properly usable". On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: You can't answer "none" to the question "what is the *most* stable release"... I'm asking this as a person I know uses Linuxconf. He knows nothing about Linux. He doesn't want to use anything else. He is running the linuxconf that comes with RH6.2. I know there must be a bit more stable and fucntioning beast out there... A simple question to which I want a simple answer :) Peter Mike Burger wrote: None. Download Webmin from www.webmin.com...you'll be much happier for done so. On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: What is the most stable release of linuxconf that I should consider running on RH6.2? Cheers, Peter ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
Mike.. I just tried WEBMIN. WOW!! This is sure a nice utility. I never heard of it before. But then I haven't heard of a lot of things. Thanks for the thought on using that rather than linuxconf.. On Wednesday 21 March 2001 05:25, you wrote: The problem is that, in my experience, it is the correct answer. Linuxconf has a bad habit of overwriting configuration files which aren't even part of the changes a user was making. Webmin only makes the changes you request it to make, and has been a more stable and secure product. It's free, simple to use, and the only recommendation I can make for the situation at hand. I can not, from my experience, or the experiences of others which can be gleaned on this list (search the archives), or in good conscience, recommend any version of linuxconf as "stable" or even "properly usable". On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: You can't answer "none" to the question "what is the *most* stable release"... I'm asking this as a person I know uses Linuxconf. He knows nothing about Linux. He doesn't want to use anything else. He is running the linuxconf that comes with RH6.2. I know there must be a bit more stable and fucntioning beast out there... A simple question to which I want a simple answer :) Peter Mike Burger wrote: None. Download Webmin from www.webmin.com...you'll be much happier for done so. On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: What is the most stable release of linuxconf that I should consider running on RH6.2? Cheers, Peter ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Ted Gervais Coldbrook, Nova Scotia Canada ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
You can't answer "none" to the question "what is the *most* stable release"... I'm asking this as a person I know uses Linuxconf. He knows nothing about Linux. He doesn't want to use anything else. He is running the linuxconf that comes with RH6.2. I know there must be a bit more stable and fucntioning beast out there... A simple question to which I want a simple answer :) Quite frankly, why don't you ask on a mailing list where people are actually using linuxconf and tracking its evolution (http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/mailinglist.html) On redhat-list you will find people who do not like linuxconf, and for sure do not track its evolution. Given that redhat never puts out update version of linuxconf between releases, bugs and miss-features are never fixed (as seen from people on this list). Go on linuxconf mailing list and ask there. Linuxconf is widely used on rh6.2 box, so you will get suitable answers. Further, check the change log so you can tell if the problem you have experienced are fixed. -- - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nt2linux: NT to Linux migration kit http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
David Talkington wrote: You can install the most stable release of linuxconf with this command: I knew I'd get answers like this... :) Okay, so I'm looking the *most* stable version of Linuxconf. And no, I'm not going to use it by myself (just to clear things up :) Cheers, Peter ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Peter Peltonen wrote: You can install the most stable release of linuxconf with this command: I knew I'd get answers like this... :) Okay, so I'm looking the *most* stable version of Linuxconf. And no, I'm not going to use it by myself (just to clear things up :) Thanks for taking it well. I was just beginning to feel guilty for being a wiseacre ... =) - -- David Talkington Prairienet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 217-244-1962 PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBOreTxr1ZYOtSwT+tAQGpNwgAwnG7/L96fjF73TOsfswdlXEbAha1FNpT avTFUnbqEY3ak1qWaz7Y7SyEzCu39h/r/H+G1b7ZaIW1q8B9z3g4QF04X1BBIPnK fMM/SX7Jw2amz6vX4+VGnfYFCyoMoGRJ40iOP6xTiwg5j3pSasL8p3ztHdmQpcD1 iWe1Pco0FQuX+pwSjudA2EKwmNx0NPwzWlKHSo7M8fu4XL8gE3pUZBYfTfqMg9OB +5ptXK5dHxpBG3NN7FDTi4CB8H3YQfeLJK2d2HBpa64ib8jqKzHtDP+YFOLKNFLB eRSS5AQfVHCgocLFPWr6nd6+k6NoZNOxrnRMYP+S/scvP8dkM3qDcw== =S3Dl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
None. Download Webmin from www.webmin.com...you'll be much happier for done so. On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Peter Peltonen wrote: What is the most stable release of linuxconf that I should consider running on RH6.2? Cheers, Peter ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Peter Peltonen wrote: What is the most stable release of linuxconf that I should consider running on RH6.2? You can install the most stable release of linuxconf with this command: # rpm -e linuxconf =) - -d - -- David Talkington http://www.spotnet.org PGP key: http://www.prairienet.org/~dtalk/dt000823.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQEVAwUBOreOr71ZYOtSwT+tAQEjbAgAjHYBzaCWBLOQglCtUj4xKBCXIzVD6q1U urTwrSIftEh4fHnI3Yehr9nBZpEZc96P1Xpi+pj6ITYAXq13D42iAabzBBQq4+o5 TIZMSwCefD6jmWN1gVtfImiq3w3ruLRQUM8HV4UNobKIrVRGp5kyiGTdAAwcogUA p1WjEShnwSo8sYprdbAhsxVMWxvsjysJ8A44aBsn1wDuxT/V5FZl0X4qf3Amg5ev js7bMCQd7oEU+/Htk56c3ZDnv2pvoOU84x7ysvUZ+1XG5l5g0753xKC41TUpgVR9 0/OCcn+ETdi+3TSllxNqyYQDVXc5GyLGY9jWj/7PLTlfSbKueafxlw== =/DlT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf-1.24r8-1.i386.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, personally I believe that if you use linuxconf you will soon become an expert...from trying to fix the damage that it does to your system. Either that you you will give up altogether on Linux and go back to windows. Linuxconf is a disaster waiting to happen. I changes too many things on its ownjust my opinion. Your mileage may vary. I'll chime in a bit here. I find that linuxconf works flawlessly on several of the tasks that I have to do. Simple dns setup is one. User adminitration groups that sort of stuff. I had no problems with getting sendmail going with it either. Now on the other hand It totally trashed my apache setup the one time I tried to use it for that. I don't mind it making changes. What I do mind is that there is no way to know what changes it is going to make ir has made for that matter. IMHO The documentation does a fair job of explaining what the various boxes to fill in mean but as mentioned earlier no clue as to what the thing is actually going to do with that information. my 2 cents. flame protection on :) Bret ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf-1.24r8-1.i386.rpm
Well, personally I believe that if you use linuxconf you will soon become an expert...from trying to fix the damage that it does to your system. Agree totally! Linuxconf is pure evil and should be banished. I've had it destroy things on my system too many times just even from going into the various sections, not changing anything. A much better solution IMHO is to use webmin (www.webmin.com). It does pretty much *ALL* aspects of Linux/Unix administration and won't trash anything it doesn't understand. -- Regards, +---+-+ | Peter Kiem| E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Zordah IT | Mobile: +61 0414 724 766| | IT Consultancy | WWW : www.zordah.net | | Internet Hosting| ICQ : "Zordah" 81 | +---+-+ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf-1.24r8-1.i386.rpm
Anyone been able to install the linuxconf-1.24r8-1.i386.rpm file? There's a known bug (known by everyone but RH) with linuxconf-1.19r2-4 not supporting the LABEL in /etc/fstab, which causes problems when dealing with quotas. I'd like to upgrade, but I get failed dependencies on older libraries than the ones that come with RH 7.0: error: failed dependencies: libncurses.so.4 is needed by linuxconf-1.24r8-1 libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 is needed by linuxconf-1.24r8-1 You need the following packages from redhat 7 first CD ncurses4 compat-libstdc++ This is needed because I only compile linuxconf on rh6 for rh6.x and rh7 The source isn't the usual autoconf stuff I know how to deal with, so I'm a bit stuck. Any ideas? make make install but you need the wxxt-devel package from ftp.solucorp.qc.ca/pub/linuxconf/wxxt - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nt2linux: NT to Linux migration kit http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf-1.24r8-1.i386.rpm
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, Bret Hughes wrote: I don't mind it making changes. What I do mind is that there is no way to know what changes it is going to make ir has made for that matter. IMHO The documentation does a fair job of explaining what the various boxes to fill in mean but as mentioned earlier no clue as to what the thing is actually going to do with that information. I agree. Well, you can click on "preview changes," but sometimes that doesn't really explain as much as it should. Most of the time, it's self-explainatory, but (as is the case with quotas), it seems to hide a lot of the underlying functionality. I like tools that make things easier. I dislike tools that try and make it look like magic by keeping everything a black box. Linuxconf is often the former, and occasionally the latter. At least they keep trying to improve it. I just wish the innards were a little better-documented without having to read the source code. -- Todd A. Jacobs CodeGnome Consulting, LTD ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re: linuxconf and the accounts uucp and ftp
Due to security reasons I have to remove all accounts which are not needed on our RH 6.2 servers. So I deleted several user accounts including the uucp account, group and it's home directory as well as the ftp user account, group and it's home directory. But now when I start linuxconf and I quit, I'm getting the error message: No user "uucp" defined on this system In file /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm/uucp, line 1 No group "ftp" defined on this system In file /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm/wuftpd, line 2 Does anyone know what I have to do to get rid of these error messages? Removing the files /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm/uucp and /usr/lib/linuxconf/redhat/perm/wuftpd didn't help. It should have solve the problem. It is possible to redefine those file locally by placing a copy in /var/lib/conf.permissions and edit it there. Another solution is to go into control/control file systems/permission and ownership. Find the relevant entries (/var/spool/uucp for example) and change the spec so it uses root instead of uucp. Newer linuxconf are less picky about this. If a group or user is missing for a fixperm spec, it is silently ignored. You can upgrade from http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/linuxconf/download.hc. -- - Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] nt2linux: NT to Linux migration kit http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: linuxconf
Em Sexta 19 Janeiro 2001 01:55, you wrote: snip could linuxconf be removed from the base installation? snip Yes. And even if it is installed, it is easy to uninstall it using 'rpm linuxconf'. i install a base installation from ftp/http and linuxconf is not unselectable; i wish it was. ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote: Yes. And even if it is installed, it is easy to uninstall it using 'rpm linuxconf'. i install a base installation from ftp/http and linuxconf is not unselectable; i wish it was. It is... try doing a custom install. when you get to the part where you choose Workstation, Server, Custom, Upgrade, blah blah blah, choose Custom. Then you can deselect it. otherwise, you can rpm -e linuxconf after install and if this is part of a kickstart script, you can write the script to only install what you wnat installed, or you can add the rpm -e linuxconf command as part of the post install config stuff in the KS script. cheers ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
Hello... Jeff Lane wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Evandro Fernandes Giovanini wrote: Yes. And even if it is installed, it is easy to uninstall it using 'rpm linuxconf'. i install a base installation from ftp/http and linuxconf is not unselectable; i wish it was. It is... try doing a custom install. when you get to the part where you choose Workstation, Server, Custom, Upgrade, blah blah blah, choose Custom. Then you can deselect it. Are you sure about that? IIRC anything in the 'base' portion of comps is non optional. IIRC there is a gnome-linuxconf GUI for linuxconf that is un-checkable, but the core package is still installed. otherwise, you can rpm -e linuxconf after install and if this is part of a kickstart script, you can write the script to only install what you wnat installed, or you can add the rpm -e linuxconf command as part of the post install config stuff in the KS script. cheers ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list -- Christopher McCrory "The guy that keeps the servers running" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pricegrabber.com "Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware" ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Christopher McCrory wrote: Hello... Are you sure about that? IIRC anything in the 'base' portion of comps is non optional. IIRC there is a gnome-linuxconf GUI for linuxconf that is un-checkable, but the core package is still installed. Ummm... you may be right about that... I may have been thinking about the gnome-linuxconf package... ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
Jeff Lane said once upon a time (Fri, 19 Jan 2001): That is true, but we were trying to ascertain if Linuxconf is removable from the install WHILE installing, ie doing a custom install, adn deselecting it for install. (personally, I dont think it should be installed at all anyway, but thats just my opinion grin) In the latest revision of the official Red Hat training courses, coverage of Linuxconf has been cut from being a major topic to just a small footnote. Dax Kelson Guru Labs ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
Hello... Jeff Lane wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Chris Garrigues wrote: It can be removed from base w/o problem. I've done so. There are some other things that would be nice to be able to remove (like mouseconfig), but which break the installer if they're taken out. This is true. Have you, or anyone else, done a test to see what the _absolute_ minimum package listing for 'base' is? min: no daemons , no network, no X, no compiler. ? ? ? That is true, but we were trying to ascertain if Linuxconf is removable from the install WHILE installing, ie doing a custom install, adn deselecting it for install. That was my take also. (personally, I dont think it should be installed at all anyway, but thats just my opinion grin) Me too(tm). The last time I ran it was a couple RH versions ago, but just starting it broke some of my configurations. :( cheers ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list -- Christopher McCrory "The guy that keeps the servers running" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pricegrabber.com "Linux: Because rebooting is for adding new hardware" ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list
Re: linuxconf
From: Christopher McCrory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:22:04 -0800 Hello... Jeff Lane wrote: On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, Chris Garrigues wrote: It can be removed from base w/o problem. I've done so. There are some other things that would be nice to be able to remove (like mouseconfig), but w hich break the installer if they're taken out. This is true. Have you, or anyone else, done a test to see what the _absolute_ minimum package listing for 'base' is? min: no daemons , no network, no X, no compiler. ? ? ? No I haven't. I need a network and I don't have the time to do this just for fun. Chris -- Chris Garrigues http://www.DeepEddy.Com/~cwg/ virCIO http://www.virCIO.Com 4314 Avenue C Austin, TX 78751-3709 +1 512 374 0500 My email address is an experiment in SPAM elimination. For an explanation of what we're doing, see http://www.DeepEddy.Com/tms.html Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft, but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. PGP signature
