RE: Partitioning?
Hi, You want delete all your partitions to reinstall Win and RedHat ? Boot with the RedHat Install CD and choose repair at the first Boot-Screen, you get a Recovery System, so you can use all Linux partitioning tools. Regards Alex -Original Message- From: Cannon, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:18 AM To: Redhat (E-mail) Subject: Partitioning? Hi All, Happy New Year! Hope everyone had a good Christmas. My problem is with Window$ and Mandrake. I'm reinstalling Window$ and I want to use the partition containing Mandrake as my Red Hat partition. The only problem is that my Window$ installation is trashed (along with Partition Magic) and I can't resize (or delete) the extended partition on my hard drive because fdisk can't see the Linux partition. Mandrake doesn't work anymore (I think the kernel got corrupted) so I'm replacing with Red Hat. Any ideas on how to delete this partition before reinstalling Window$ and then installing Red Hat? Many thanks. Andrew Andrew Cannon, Nuclear Technology (J2), NNC Ltd, Booths Hall, Knutsford, Cheshire, WA16 8QZ. Telephone; +44 (0) 1565 843768 email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] NNC website: http://www.nnc.co.uk *** NNC Limited Booths Hall Chelford Road Knutsford Cheshire WA16 8QZ Country of Registration: United Kingdom Registered Number: 1120437 This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the NNC system manager by e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
new linux server, re-partitioning
We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
I really think Apache uses /etc/httpd, is it safe to change that? Will it affect other programs? ColdFusion wants to install to /opt, is that safe to change? Should I make a /usr/ColdFusion or /var/ColdFusion? On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 09:43, Willem van der Walt wrote: Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Do u really need to re-partition ? Why not use a softlink : ln -s /fromhere/filename /tohere/filename begin:vcard n:Chan;Arthur tel;work:1.718.633.5892 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.saysit.com org:SAYS I.T. adr:;;234 E 2nd Street;Brooklyn;New York;11218-2314;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Partner note;quoted-printable:This message and all attachments are confidential.=0D=0AThey are meant solely for the addressee.=0D=0AAny authorised use or dessemination is prohibited.=0D=0AEmails are liable to unauthorised alterations.=0D=0ANeither SAYS I.T. nor any of its partners or subsidiaries or affiliates=0D=0Ashall be responsible for the message if altered, changed or falsified. x-mozilla-cpt:;25408 fn:Arthur Chan end:vcard
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Willem van der Walt wrote: Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Come to think of it, does it matter where u install it as long as there is a path to it ? /usr and /usr/local needs to be fairly big if u intent to use it as an app-server. begin:vcard n:Chan;Arthur tel;work:1.718.633.5892 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.saysit.com org:SAYS I.T. adr:;;234 E 2nd Street;Brooklyn;New York;11218-2314;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Partner note;quoted-printable:This message and all attachments are confidential.=0D=0AThey are meant solely for the addressee.=0D=0AAny authorised use or dessemination is prohibited.=0D=0AEmails are liable to unauthorised alterations.=0D=0ANeither SAYS I.T. nor any of its partners or subsidiaries or affiliates=0D=0Ashall be responsible for the message if altered, changed or falsified. x-mozilla-cpt:;25408 fn:Arthur Chan end:vcard
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Joshua James wrote: I really think Apache uses /etc/httpd, is it safe to change that? Will it affect other programs? ColdFusion wants to install to /opt, is that safe to change? Should I make a /usr/ColdFusion or /var/ColdFusion? On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 09:43, Willem van der Walt wrote: Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Go into /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf and overwrite the default directory , you can put it anywhere you want. You ar correct in pointing out that this is the default and normal path though... While u r at it, might as well check whether u want the default log location. begin:vcard n:Chan;Arthur tel;work:1.718.633.5892 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.saysit.com org:SAYS I.T. adr:;;234 E 2nd Street;Brooklyn;New York;11218-2314;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Partner note;quoted-printable:This message and all attachments are confidential.=0D=0AThey are meant solely for the addressee.=0D=0AAny authorised use or dessemination is prohibited.=0D=0AEmails are liable to unauthorised alterations.=0D=0ANeither SAYS I.T. nor any of its partners or subsidiaries or affiliates=0D=0Ashall be responsible for the message if altered, changed or falsified. x-mozilla-cpt:;25408 fn:Arthur Chan end:vcard
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-Jun-2002/09:05 -0400, Joshua James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? You can make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. That will solve the immediate problem, and prevent something similar from happening later. mkdir /usr/local/opt ln -s /usr/local/opt /opt As you get familiar with Linux, you will get your own ideas about how your partitions should be laid out. I would have wiped that machine and setup my own partitions, but then I've been doing this for years. Here are some things you might consider for your next Linux box: - Put /usr/local on it's own partition. Software that you compile locally (install from tarballs) often puts everything it needs under /usr/local. I also tend to put the scripts and such that I create to help run the machine in /usr/local/[bin|sbin]. With all of this on a separate partition, I can install the latest version of my distro, tell the installer to leave /home and /usr/local alone, and most of my customizations remain in place. I just have to worry about the config stuff in /etc. - Put Apache's DocumentRoot in /home/httpd. This stuff will not change if Apache is upgraded, and needs to be preserved between OS upgrades. Red Hat used to do this, but apparently it's not LSB compliant. Fine, but I like to simplify my sysadmin tasks, so I put DocumentRoot on a partition that I kow will be preserved between upgrades and/or reinstalls. - Make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. - Adjust partition sizes for /home and /usr to reflect use as either a file server (big /home) or a database or email server (big /var). I tend to restrict /usr to 4GB because I don't generally install that much software on a server. I allow more space for data files (/home, /var). In any case, welcome to Linux. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE9EzMbpCpg3WyUI50RAorJAJ9/IB0p8zpRvpKx5XzSdU8k3M/Q6ACfSbQd skVLdUzxCGhKv2NO08a9ToA= =Ufyz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Joshua James wrote: I really think Apache uses /etc/httpd, is it safe to change that? Will it affect other programs? ColdFusion wants to install to /opt, is that safe to change? Should I make a /usr/ColdFusion or /var/ColdFusion? On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 09:43, Willem van der Walt wrote: Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Re. Database location : Oracle uses OFA and has mount points /u01, /u02, /u03 etc I think 3 mount points may be the minimum that u can get away with. It is prudent to put each mount point on a different physical disk. begin:vcard n:Chan;Arthur tel;work:1.718.633.5892 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.saysit.com org:SAYS I.T. adr:;;234 E 2nd Street;Brooklyn;New York;11218-2314;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Partner note;quoted-printable:This message and all attachments are confidential.=0D=0AThey are meant solely for the addressee.=0D=0AAny authorised use or dessemination is prohibited.=0D=0AEmails are liable to unauthorised alterations.=0D=0ANeither SAYS I.T. nor any of its partners or subsidiaries or affiliates=0D=0Ashall be responsible for the message if altered, changed or falsified. x-mozilla-cpt:;25408 fn:Arthur Chan end:vcard
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
I would use /usr/local/www for the DocumentRoot and /usr/local/coldfusion for the coldfusion base. Apache is easy to change, edit the httpd.conf to show the new location of the document root. Look for the line DocumentRoot /var/www/htdocs or some such directory. Coldfusion will probably prompt you for these things when you run the install. Its a while since I installed it and can't remember how it actually went. Paul On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 09:51:32AM -0400, Joshua James wrote: I really think Apache uses /etc/httpd, is it safe to change that? Will it affect other programs? ColdFusion wants to install to /opt, is that safe to change? Should I make a /usr/ColdFusion or /var/ColdFusion? On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 09:43, Willem van der Walt wrote: Hi, Under 7.2, the web home dir is normally under /var/www. I would try to tell the installation program to change prefix to some thing else. If that does not work, I would make a link to a directory under /usr where there is a lot of space. If it wants to create a directory called newprog under /opt, i will do, before i install, cd /usr mkdir lot_of_space cd /opt ln -s /usr/lot_of_space newprog hth Willem On 21 Jun 2002, Joshua James wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- Willem van der Walt Information Services Directorate Department of Health South Africa tel: 27 12 3120700 ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Anthony E. Greene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-Jun-2002/09:05 -0400, Joshua James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? You can make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. That will solve the immediate problem, and prevent something similar from happening later. mkdir /usr/local/opt ln -s /usr/local/opt /opt As you get familiar with Linux, you will get your own ideas about how your partitions should be laid out. I would have wiped that machine and setup my own partitions, but then I've been doing this for years. Here are some things you might consider for your next Linux box: - Put /usr/local on it's own partition. Software that you compile locally (install from tarballs) often puts everything it needs under /usr/local. I also tend to put the scripts and such that I create to help run the machine in /usr/local/[bin|sbin]. With all of this on a separate partition, I can install the latest version of my distro, tell the installer to leave /home and /usr/local alone, and most of my customizations remain in place. I just have to worry about the config stuff in /etc. - Put Apache's DocumentRoot in /home/httpd. This stuff will not change if Apache is upgraded, and needs to be preserved between OS upgrades. Red Hat used to do this, but apparently it's not LSB compliant. Fine, but I like to simplify my sysadmin tasks, so I put DocumentRoot on a partition that I kow will be preserved between upgrades and/or reinstalls. - Make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. - Adjust partition sizes for /home and /usr to reflect use as either a file server (big /home) or a database or email server (big /var). I tend to restrict /usr to 4GB because I don't generally install that much software on a server. I allow more space for data files (/home, /var). In any case, welcome to Linux. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE9EzMbpCpg3WyUI50RAorJAJ9/IB0p8zpRvpKx5XzSdU8k3M/Q6ACfSbQd skVLdUzxCGhKv2NO08a9ToA= =Ufyz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Anthony has a good point : wipe it and start from scratch. It's probably bloat-ware, most of which you don't need ! Just pop the CD in and it will walk you thru it. begin:vcard n:Chan;Arthur tel;work:1.718.633.5892 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.saysit.com org:SAYS I.T. adr:;;234 E 2nd Street;Brooklyn;New York;11218-2314;USA version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Senior Partner note;quoted-printable:This message and all attachments are confidential.=0D=0AThey are meant solely for the addressee.=0D=0AAny authorised use or dessemination is prohibited.=0D=0AEmails are liable to unauthorised alterations.=0D=0ANeither SAYS I.T. nor any of its partners or subsidiaries or affiliates=0D=0Ashall be responsible for the message if altered, changed or falsified. x-mozilla-cpt:;25408 fn:Arthur Chan end:vcard
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
I'm concerned about installation. This came pre-installed. Normally with Windows I would easily reinstall but I'm not sure about drivers or even tech support. It is a Dell PowerEdge 350, it is however just a development server. Everything will be reinstalled from scratch on a new server for full production. I thank you all for your help! On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 20:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Greene wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-Jun-2002/09:05 -0400, Joshua James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just received a new RedHat v7.2 server from Dell. This is an experiment to see how linux works compared to our current installation of NT servers. This will be an intranet server behind our firewall. Our 40gb drive came partitioned as follows: /dev/hda1 ext3990mb /home /dev/hda6 ext3494mb / /dev/hda2 ext322.8mb /boot /dev/hda8 ext360.7mb /tmp /dev/hda3 ext321.8gb /usr /dev/hda5 ext313.1gb /var I installed apache (2.x.39) to the default location and I'm trying to install ColdFusion MX. It wants to install to /opt which is in / and there isn't near enough room, its already 60% full. I heard you shouldn't move /etc because there is something in there necessary for finding other mount points. I assume my website is going to /etc/httpd and since my other software is going to /opt I need more room, what is the usual place for databases to go? How can I make my / partition bigger? Do I really need 21.8gb for /usr? You can make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. That will solve the immediate problem, and prevent something similar from happening later. mkdir /usr/local/opt ln -s /usr/local/opt /opt As you get familiar with Linux, you will get your own ideas about how your partitions should be laid out. I would have wiped that machine and setup my own partitions, but then I've been doing this for years. Here are some things you might consider for your next Linux box: - Put /usr/local on it's own partition. Software that you compile locally (install from tarballs) often puts everything it needs under /usr/local. I also tend to put the scripts and such that I create to help run the machine in /usr/local/[bin|sbin]. With all of this on a separate partition, I can install the latest version of my distro, tell the installer to leave /home and /usr/local alone, and most of my customizations remain in place. I just have to worry about the config stuff in /etc. - Put Apache's DocumentRoot in /home/httpd. This stuff will not change if Apache is upgraded, and needs to be preserved between OS upgrades. Red Hat used to do this, but apparently it's not LSB compliant. Fine, but I like to simplify my sysadmin tasks, so I put DocumentRoot on a partition that I kow will be preserved between upgrades and/or reinstalls. - Make /opt a symlink to /usr/local/opt. - Adjust partition sizes for /home and /usr to reflect use as either a file server (big /home) or a database or email server (big /var). I tend to restrict /usr to 4GB because I don't generally install that much software on a server. I allow more space for data files (/home, /var). In any case, welcome to Linux. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE9EzMbpCpg3WyUI50RAorJAJ9/IB0p8zpRvpKx5XzSdU8k3M/Q6ACfSbQd skVLdUzxCGhKv2NO08a9ToA= =Ufyz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list Anthony has a good point : wipe it and start from scratch. It's probably bloat-ware, most of which you don't need ! Just pop the CD in and it will walk you thru it. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
On Fri, 2002-06-21 at 10:40, Joshua James wrote: I'm concerned about installation. This came pre-installed. Normally with Windows I would easily reinstall but I'm not sure about drivers or even tech support. Hmm... Last year I installed a few Dell PowerApp linux based boxes. There was a java app in the Dell CD that allows you to create a kickstart disk to reinstall the system with factory defaults. Check if you have this. If so, the worst grief you will experience if you reinstall and run into trouble, is that you will have to use the Dell supplied CDs to make a Dell standard install. As for support, don't care about it unless you bought the server with OS support. And the support you buy is from Redhat, not Dell. Dell only gives you hardware support. It is a Dell PowerEdge 350, it is however just a development server. Everything will be reinstalled from scratch on a new server for full production. All the more reason to go ahead and try it. If it doesn't work for you, you will know for sure that it doesn't work. I thank you all for your help! Anytime ;-) Cheers, -- Javier Gostling Ingeniero de Sistemas Virtualia S.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fono: +56 (2) 202-6264 x 130 Fax: +56 (2) 342-8763 Av. Kennedy 5757, of 1502 Las Condes Santiago Chile ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21-Jun-2002/10:28 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony E. Greene wrote: [snip] As you get familiar with Linux, you will get your own ideas about how your partitions should be laid out. I would have wiped that machine and setup my own partitions, but then I've been doing this for years. [snip] Anthony has a good point : wipe it and start from scratch. It's probably bloat-ware, most of which you don't need ! Just pop the CD in and it will walk you thru it. I would not recommend that for a new user with a pre-installed box. There may be driver issues, and there may be vendor customizations that help the user get started. Tony - -- Anthony E. Greene mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key: 0x6C94239D/7B3D BD7D 7D91 1B44 BA26 C484 A42A 60DD 6C94 239D AOL/Yahoo Chat: TonyG05 HomePage: http://www.pobox.com/~agreene/ Linux: the choice of a GNU Generation. http://www.linux.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Anthony E. Greene 0x6C94239D [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE9E0ecpCpg3WyUI50RAgg1AJ4yiLX6ejIKVgRBvMUhMVITuZB0SwCgrl7N XAtN72yCGV7XR+qu3Ps1npc= =i929 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: new linux server, re-partitioning
Apache is quite flexible and can be installed almost anywhere you want to put it. PG Joshua James wrote: I really think Apache uses /etc/httpd, is it safe to change that? Will it affect other programs? ColdFusion wants to install to /opt, is that safe to change? Should I make a /usr/ColdFusion or /var/ColdFusion? ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Partitioning HD
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, you wrote: I have two partitions, both Fat32. Would like to install RH 7 and am trying to find out if I need to repartion the entire drive and reload everything or is there a way to just add the linux partitions. My two partitions are 16G and 2G both on the same HDD The box is a Compaq pentium II 533. Are you using both partitions? If not, you can theoretically just reformat one of the partitions and install linux on that. If you are using some of both partitions, you can use a util like FIPS to non-destructively repartition your hard drive and "steal" some drive space from one or both partitions. IIRC, you can also use Partition Magic to create a partition for linux, but I'd let the installer reformat the partition before using, just to be safe. John ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Partitioning HD
If you don't need the 2nd partition for DOS/Windows, at all, you can use the Linux fdisk to change the partition type to type 83 (Linux native)...or you can delete that partition and repartition the 2GB space (assuming that it's currently your D: drive) for use with LInux...eithr way, you can generally leave the first partition (C: drive) alone. On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Charles wrote: I have two partitions, both Fat32. Would like to install RH 7 and am trying to find out if I need to repartion the entire drive and reload everything or is there a way to just add the linux partitions. My two partitions are 16G and 2G both on the same HDD The box is a Compaq pentium II 533. Thanks Charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: Partitioning HD
Scratch what I said, earlier. Grab parted, or Partition Magic. Shrink your C: drive by about 15MB at th efront of the drive. You can even shrink the C: at the back of the drive, too. When you go to partition, designate that 15MB slice as /boot (keeping your boot area above the 1024 cylinder mark), and do whatever you like with the remaining space. On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Charles wrote: I have two partitions, both Fat32. Would like to install RH 7 and am trying to find out if I need to repartion the entire drive and reload everything or is there a way to just add the linux partitions. My two partitions are 16G and 2G both on the same HDD The box is a Compaq pentium II 533. Thanks Charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: re-partitioning
At 10:14 AM 08/31/2000 -0700, you wrote: But in any case, if you can burn CDs and have a computer that can boot from the CDROM (almost any computer built in the last few years), then in a situation like this you might want to consider downloading the "Linuxcare Bootable Business Card". http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd/ An invaluable tool to have around for things like this and any unexpected emergencies that might come up. Wow. Great tool. Thanks, Mark ___ __HHH__ (@ @) .oOO--\_/--OOo.- | Mark Neidorff|Never assume a conspiracy exists | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|when mere stupidity can explain| | Just Answers!|an event. | | Computer Systems Solutions | R. K. Bernstein | ---.ooo0---0ooo. ( ) ( ) \ ( ) / \_) (_/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re-partitioning
Hi folks, I know that we have beat this topic up for a while. I just want to clarify an issue. I've just gotten a new HDD and want to take my RH 6.2 installation and tar the partitions onto the new drive (easy) delete existing partitions from old drive, (also easy) * re-partition old drive * replace the files onto the new partitions. While I am thinking this through, it occurred to me that once I delete the existing partitions I won't have tar or fdisk available anymore to work with. I've created a boot disk (mkbootdisk) and verified that it will boot the system. Will cp'ing the files "tar" and "fdisk" to the bootdisk be enough to do the work, or do I need some libraries as well? Any other files that I might be missing? Thanks, Mark ___ __HHH__ (@ @) .oOO--\_/--OOo.- | Mark Neidorff|Never assume a conspiracy exists | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]|when mere stupidity can explain| | Just Answers!|an event. | | Computer Systems Solutions | R. K. Bernstein | ---.ooo0---0ooo. ( ) ( ) \ ( ) / \_) (_/ ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
re-partitioning (more info)
Hi folks, While I am thinking this through, it occurred to me that once I delete the existing partitions I won't have tar or fdisk available anymore to work with. I've created a boot disk (mkbootdisk) and verified that it will boot the system. Will cp'ing the files "tar" and "fdisk" to the bootdisk be enough to do the work, or do I need some libraries as well? Any other files that I might be missing? I just thought of the files to make the ext2 file system also. Anything else? Thanks again, Mark ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: re-partitioning
Mark wrote: Hi folks, I know that we have beat this topic up for a while. I just want to clarify an issue. I've just gotten a new HDD and want to take my RH 6.2 installation and tar the partitions onto the new drive (easy) delete existing partitions from old drive, (also easy) * re-partition old drive * replace the files onto the new partitions. While I am thinking this through, it occurred to me that once I delete the existing partitions I won't have tar or fdisk available anymore to work with. I've created a boot disk (mkbootdisk) and verified that it will boot the system. Will cp'ing the files "tar" and "fdisk" to the bootdisk be enough to do the work, or do I need some libraries as well? Any other files that I might be missing? Well, it is not clear to me why if you have copied the files onto your new drive, that you would not be booting from that. But in any case, if you can burn CDs and have a computer that can boot from the CDROM (almost any computer built in the last few years), then in a situation like this you might want to consider downloading the "Linuxcare Bootable Business Card". http://www.linuxcare.com/bootable_cd/ An invaluable tool to have around for things like this and any unexpected emergencies that might come up. They can fit a lot more tools onto a CDROM, including tar and fdisk and lots of READMEs with helpful info. ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: re-partitioning (more info)
You'd need static versions of those utilities. Libraries are too big for bootdisks. You can prolly manage to get the source and compile your own static copies :) On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, M. Neidorff wrote: Hi folks, While I am thinking this through, it occurred to me that once I delete the existing partitions I won't have tar or fdisk available anymore to work with. I've created a boot disk (mkbootdisk) and verified that it will boot the system. Will cp'ing the files "tar" and "fdisk" to the bootdisk be enough to do the work, or do I need some libraries as well? Any other files that I might be missing? I just thought of the files to make the ext2 file system also. Anything else? Thanks again, Mark ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- ** * Statux * * * | * * E-Mail: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * ICQ: | 1732414 * * Homepage: | http://www.geocities.com/reverendstatux/* * | * * ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
Re: partitioning
Warren Piece wrote: total newbie question... i'm trying to install redhat, currently running win 98, and am using fips to partition my hd. i've defragged a couple of times, but there is still a small amount of information that is pushed to the very end of the hd (which is not even half full). because the last cylinder is not empty, fips boots me out and won't let me do anything. any help would be great. Sorry I took so long to reply to this (forgot to change my spam blocking e-mail address before sending to this list). I had the same problem so maybe the solution will be the same. If you're using the Winblows defragmenter uncheck the 'optimise so my programs start faster' option as this always seems to leave some junk at the end of the disk. Hope this helps, Matt. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning
Hi Warren, i've defragged a couple of times, but there is still a small amount of information that is pushed to the very end of the hd Did you check (with a disk editor or defrag utility) which files are at the end of the disk? If you are using Norton Utilities, it might be that its image.idx and image.dat file are located there. Just delete them. Otherwise I wouldn't know. Good luck, Leonard. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning
Warren Piece wrote: is not even half full). because the last cylinder is not empty, fips boots me out and won't let me do anything. any help would be great. Perhaps you could try parted? Search for it on freshmeat. You can download a bootable floppy image (use rawrite from the Red Hat CDROM to write the image to a floppy) which you can use to resize your partitions. I've used it to increase the size of a FAT32 partition, but not shrink. Let me know how it works :) MSG -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, Warren Piece wrote: total newbie question... i'm trying to install redhat, currently running win 98, and am using fips to partition my hd. i've defragged a couple of times, but there is still a small amount of information that is pushed to the very end of the hd (which is not even half full). because the last cylinder is not empty, fips boots me out and won't let me do anything. any help would be great. Are you running something like Norton Utilities Image that puts am "image" file at the end of the disk? If so, turn it off, look for, and delete a hidden/system file called something like Image in C:\, and try it again. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning
Hi Warren, Take my advice don't use fips. It is not safe as indicated in the warning of this resizing software. I got a bitter lesson twice in using this software. The partition will be destroyed automatically for unknown reason on starting PC, everything then gone. Partition Magic is reliable but it is not free. I have no idea about another resizing software recommended by another guy MSG Good luck Stephen - Original Message - From: "Warren Piece" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 2:39 AM Subject: partitioning total newbie question... i'm trying to install redhat, currently running win 98, and am using fips to partition my hd. i've defragged a couple of times, but there is still a small amount of information that is pushed to the very end of the hd (which is not even half full). because the last cylinder is not empty, fips boots me out and won't let me do anything. any help would be great. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning
Your current situation doesn't sound good, but just wanted to offer that I have used fips several times and it has been very reliable each time. Follow the directions carefully of course. charles On Sat, 1 Jul 2000, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Warren, Take my advice don't use fips. It is not safe as indicated in the warning of this resizing software. I got a bitter lesson twice in using this software. The partition will be destroyed automatically for unknown reason on starting PC, everything then gone. Partition Magic is reliable but it is not free. I have no idea about another resizing software recommended by another guy MSG Good luck Stephen - Original Message - From: "Warren Piece" [EMAIL PROTECTED] total newbie question... i'm trying to install redhat, currently running win 98, and am using fips to partition my hd. i've defragged a couple of times, but there is still a small amount of information that is pushed to the very end of the hd (which is not even half full). because the last cylinder is not empty, fips boots me out and won't let me do anything. any help would be great. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: partitioning with diskdruid: not enough space
At 09:48 PM 1/14/00 +0100, David Krings wrote: What am i doing wrong ? I know that i had the same problem back then when Have you read the large disk HOWTO? Go to www.redhat.com, click on suporrt, find their own HOWTO on large disks and then matbe visit www.linuxdocs.org and read the LDP HOWTO. Good luck! -Alan --- Alan D. Mead / Research Scientist / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute for Personality and Ability Testing 1801 Woodfield Dr / Savoy IL 61874 USA 217-352-4739 (v) / 217-352-9674 (f) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Partitioning Advice
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Jason Grovert wrote: What is the best way to partition a drive as far as sizing goes. Let's say I have a 8 gig hard drive. How would everyone do it and for what reasons? As said, it depends, but I think you are looking for what other people have done and why... My first installation of RH4.2 was a while ago and the system grew an was upgraded to 5.2 and in the process I added a drive and moved partitions and was continually juggling the partitions to get a best fit... I'd add a partition and put /usr/local there etc, but then I'd install something and run low on space, etc... When I decided to do a new installation (with a new 8 gig drive) with 6.1 I got lazy and put in a big 3 gig drive and used that for / and another gig for /home, and that was it so far. The rest of the drive is for shared files (samba), DOS files/games, and a cd writer image partition... Linux and ext2 have been so reliable I guess I got brave, but kept /home on it's own. I'll be using half of my original 1 gig drive for file backup and well as putting stuff onto cdrom. I did this because I really wasn't sure where I was going to need the space, KDE went from opt, SO5 went to opt, and it wasn't clear what I'd really need. So I guess I took the easy way out. Hopefully it won't caome back and bite me, but then the install was so easy that I'm not too worried. Oh, and I used 256 meg of swap. I only have and old P120 with 32meg, and the extra swap has made this into a new machine... It just wasn't working with 64meg swap. If I had NS and gimp open in KDE the system was under stress :-) I made the mistake of making a single 256 meg swap partition rather than two 128 meg partitions as planned - but then found that apparently the new kernal handles larger swap files. Handy that :-) Anyway, that's what I did :-) tim -- - Tim Therese Fairchild Atchafalaya Border Collies. Kuttabul, Queensland, Australia. - Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepagehttp://www.home.aone.net.au/tims BCs4me List http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/BCs4me BCs4me Page http://members.xoom.com/amosf - -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Partitioning Advice
At 12:45 AM 12/17/99 +1000, Tim Fairchild wrote: I made the mistake of making a single 256 meg swap partition rather than two 128 meg partitions as planned - but then found that apparently the new kernal handles larger swap files. Handy that :-) = 2.2 apparently. I would say it's safer to make multiple 128MB swap partitions --- Alan D. Mead / Research Scientist / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute for Personality and Ability Testing 1801 Woodfield Dr / Savoy IL 61874 USA 217-352-4739 (v) / 217-352-9674 (f) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Partitioning Advice
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Jason Grovert wrote: What is the best way to partition a drive as far as sizing goes. Let's say I have a 8 gig hard drive. How would everyone do it and for what reasons? Depends on what you are doing with it. I usually do 10 for /boot 100-150 for / 100-200 for /var 250 for /opt then the rest divided between /var/spool/mail, /usr and /export/home (i do the solaris style of using /export/home, with autofs mounting under /home as needed... force of habit, i work mostly with sun) figure out what your functions are going to be. if you'll be the only user of the system, make /var/spool/mail only as big as you want to allow for your inbox (or just make /var that much bigger, and leave out /var/spool/mail) /usr is where the vast majority of your software will go. occasionally things will default to /opt, but i don't see it often in linux. i like /usr to be at least 1500M, usually 2-3 gig. /home should be determined by # of users multiplied by the amount of space you'll allow for each. On my linux system, I only have 10 users, but i have some REALLY large disk quotas (one user has 5 gig!), so /home is on a 13 gig drive. for an 8 gig drive, single user system, i'd probably go: /boot 10M / 240M /opt500M /var250M /usr3.5G /home 3.5G That leaves enough room in /, and /var with tons of room in /usr and /home, and a good amount of space in /opt, just in case any packages want to go there (so you don't fill up /) This is just my opinion, not the 'right' way to do it. Brian -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
Re: Partitioning Advice
In addition, I'd split out /tmp, and of course don't forget your swap which the old rule of thumb is 2*physical ram, but I usually use 128M+ (2.2.x) or so with disk capacities being so outrageously huge. On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 02:16:18PM -0500, Brian Anderson wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Jason Grovert wrote: What is the best way to partition a drive as far as sizing goes. Let's say I have a 8 gig hard drive. How would everyone do it and for what reasons? Depends on what you are doing with it. I usually do 10 for /boot 100-150 for / 100-200 for /var 250 for /opt then the rest divided between /var/spool/mail, /usr and /export/home (i do the solaris style of using /export/home, with autofs mounting under /home as needed... force of habit, i work mostly with sun) -- J. Scott Kasten jsk AT tetracon-eng DOT net "That wasn't an attack. It was preemptive retaliation!" -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Forgot about swap... oops :) I usually use either 2xRAM, or 128, depending on the system (my home machine has 128 physical, and i don't feel that i need 256 swap) Brian On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, J. Scott Kasten wrote: In addition, I'd split out /tmp, and of course don't forget your swap which the old rule of thumb is 2*physical ram, but I usually use 128M+ (2.2.x) or so with disk capacities being so outrageously huge. -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 02:16:18PM -0500, Brian Anderson wrote: On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Jason Grovert wrote: What is the best way to partition a drive as far as sizing goes. Let's say I have a 8 gig hard drive. How would everyone do it and for what reasons? Depends on what you are doing with it. I usually do 10 for /boot 100-150 for / 100-200 for /var 250 for /opt then the rest divided between /var/spool/mail, /usr and /export/home (i do the solaris style of using /export/home, with autofs mounting under /home as needed... force of habit, i work mostly with sun) Jason, you should check out the discussion of this in older (5x) RH guides or in many Linux books and I would also check out the fs standard (I think there's a link on the RH page) about what you're separating of globbing with these sorts of choices. Because these choices have implications and it's hard to pick for you. For example, you might get really unhappy with 100MB /var if you do something that generates a lot of logging. As I see it, the main rationale for making a partition is (1) because you must (not usually an issue with Linux), (2) to follow a standard, (3) to localize something like growing log files, mail spools, etc. so that they don't take up the whole disk, (4) to mount something separately as in a /usr mounted read-only. Only you can balance these needs against problems like running out of room. In general, I advocate fewer partitions because they can be really limiting. I've never used /opt or /export but I understand some programs expect /opt. I usually make a /usr partition because, at least in theory, you can make easier backups, restores, etc. and also allows mounting it read-only. You should probably make a smallish /root and I usually separate /home from the rest of / (including /tmp) but that's a tricky choice dependent on how many users you will support and who they are. For just yourself, I might not separate them. -Alan --- Alan D. Mead / Research Scientist / [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute for Personality and Ability Testing 1801 Woodfield Dr / Savoy IL 61874 USA 217-352-4739 (v) / 217-352-9674 (f) -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Alan Mead wrote: As I see it, the main rationale for making a partition is (1) because you must (not usually an issue with Linux), (2) to follow a standard, (3) to localize something like growing log files, mail spools, etc. so that they don't take up the whole disk, (4) to mount something separately as in a /usr mounted read-only. Only you can balance these needs against problems like running out of room. Another reason that I partition things out is in case of a crash (ie incorrect shutdown) I have no factual basis, but the concept seems sound: if you have 1 really big partition, and you halt unexpectedly, and the fs is corrupted, then you're in trouble. If you have 5 partitions, and one of them is corrupted, then you can either fix it, as long as / us ok, or at least it's easier to recover the rest of the data, since it's still on a valid FS. brian -- ---'---,---'--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---,---'---,--- E! Evil... Bright... Yellow... Thing...!! That must be the Daystar. I've heard talk about it. User Friendly, 12/8/1999 --'--,--'--,-- http://diabolis.net --'--,--'--,-- -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Jason Grovert wrote: What is the best way to partition a drive as far as sizing goes. Let's say I have a 8 gig hard drive. How would everyone do it and for what reasons? Cut it up into bite-sized pieces, and serve with Ranch dressing. Seriously, this is a FAQ with no simple answers. The answer is always "it depends." Until you know how you're going to use space on your system, it doesn't make a lot of sense to lose sleep over this subject. If you don't have special security concerns or unusual enterprise needs, you don't need to deviate too much from the defaults. -- Todd A. Jacobs Network Systems Engineer -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that. Basically two jobs, POP3 mail and FTP server (very small). Then it is very good idea to separate the system software, the mail spool, and FTP area. Also, you probably want to have a separate partition for user home directories even if the only user will be for the ftp server (/home/ftp). A good plan to make a root partition of 300-500MB (small enough to fit under 1024 cylinders for booting); a user partition (/home) of however space you think you will need (500MB-1GB); and the mail spool (/var/spool/mail) for the rest of the drive. - Ian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~iburrell/ If at first you don't succeed, you're doing about average. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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I'm installing RH5.0 for a client. The hard drive they wish to use is a 6GB Maxtor IDE drive. I'd like to hear from others their thoughts on partitioning this drive as well as any pitfalls I may encounter. Depends. What's the machine going to be doing? Web server? Usenet news server? Graphics workstation? Mailserver for an ISP? Samba replacement for an NT box? ;-) -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Sorry, forgot to mention that. Basically two jobs, POP3 mail and FTP server (very small). -Original Message- From: John J. Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 01, 1998 4:12 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:Re: Partitioning large hard drives I'm installing RH5.0 for a client. The hard drive they wish to use is a 6GB Maxtor IDE drive. I'd like to hear from others their thoughts on partitioning this drive as well as any pitfalls I may encounter. Depends. What's the machine going to be doing? Web server? Usenet news server? Graphics workstation? Mailserver for an ISP? Samba replacement for an NT box? ;-) -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Deryk: I have an ASUS TX97-E Revision 1.12, using the clock chip ICS9147-09 and Bios Rev 4010a-0107e. the web page http://www.asus.com/support/mb/answers/chipset/75or83.asp contains all the info straight from the horses' mouth about running at 83 mhz. I have an Intel Pentium, SL27S series 233. with the jumpers set at 4.5 multiplier, I install RedHat with about 702 Mb of applications in less than 20 minutes from the NEC 6x CDROM (number one of the quad set). The onboard thermometers report a CPU temp of between 131 and 134, depending on the room temperature, with the circuit board being about 128 to 132 degrees fahrenheit. Regular temps were about 4 degrees lower when set up as a 233 (66x3.5) I am using a large stock heatsink, ball bearing fan, and thermal compound (white silicon). A list of ;motherboards which support 83 mhz is at http://www.sysopt.com/mb83mhz.html. Setup of the ASUS TX 97 board(s) is at http://www.sysopt.com/mreview/asustx97.html which is 8 printed pages long. The ASUS booklet warns that the Intel chip set does NOT support 75 or 83 mhz. Have not had any lockups due to overclock in three months, but dual boot Win95, and that has locked up about 8 times the past month. This system is exercised with different operating systems fairly vigoriously, (changed, loaded, and unloaded) various Linux and windows revisions about three times a week. Deryk Barker wrote: I looked at the specs for the ASUS board (on thier web site) and all I could see was up to 83 Mhz. How are you getting 373? I would love to see how you did this (since I would love to try!!!). I think you are confusing bus clock speed with cpu clock speed. The PCI spec only goes up to 66MHz AFAIK, but 83 and above is already fairly common in the marketplace. I believe the original message was concerned with overclocking the cpu chip. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Does this give you true 373Mhz performance? Just curios. "Patrick T. Berry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/21/98 05:10pm Ray Curtis wrote: "ptb" == Patrick T Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ptb I am overclocking a 233mx at 373.5 mhz! Boy, I hope you have this on a block of ice, this is a 66% overclock speed ! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clark.net/pub/ray I am using an ASUS TX97-E Rev 1.12 board, which has monitor thermometer on the board beneath the CPU, and one on the board. They report CPU at 134 degrees, board at 128 degrees. I am using ONLY a stock fan with green aluminum heatsink, the fan is a ball bearing model. I have had no problems in the past two months, as far as lock-ups in Win95 and Linux. Before the over clock, temps were: CPU=131; board was 124 degrees. I do have thermal silicon paste on the cpu/heatsink. I am experimenting, as always, with new and used equipment I picked up at stores, sales, shows, etc. Sure is fun! Only smoked one power supply and one 486 board so far! Those casualties were due to start-up stress on capacitors, and old battery on board. Red Hat has no apparent problem running on the overclocked board! -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject. -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Once upon a time Smith, Nathan A., Capt. wrote: Ok, I looked at the specs for the ASUS board (on thier web site) and all I could see was up to 83 Mhz. How are you getting 373? I would love to see how you did this (since I would love to try!!!). I think you are confusing bus clock speed with cpu clock speed. The PCI spec only goes up to 66MHz AFAIK, but 83 and above is already fairly common in the marketplace. I believe the original message was concerned with overclocking the cpu chip. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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"sna,c" == Smith, Nathan A , Capt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sna,c Ok, sna,c I looked at the specs for the ASUS board (on thier web site) and all I could sna,c see was up to 83 Mhz. How are you getting 373? I would love to see how you sna,c did this (since I would love to try!!!). You can't when I first answered this message telling him it must be cooled by a block of ice I was only joking. With this board (Asus TX97) an the max bus speed of 83 Mhz and the max multiplier of 4 this would only get you 332 Mhz if the processor could handle it. I suspect something is not normal here, either the board has been modified somehow or the speed and bogomips are being confused here. -- Curtis Consulting mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clark.net/pub/ray If I am elected no one will ever have to do their laundry again! -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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Ray Curtis wrote: "ptb" == Patrick T Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ptb I am overclocking a 233mx at 373.5 mhz! Boy, I hope you have this on a block of ice, this is a 66% overclock speed ! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clark.net/pub/ray I am using an ASUS TX97-E Rev 1.12 board, which has monitor thermometer on the board beneath the CPU, and one on the board. They report CPU at 134 degrees, board at 128 degrees. I am using ONLY a stock fan with green aluminum heatsink, the fan is a ball bearing model. I have had no problems in the past two months, as far as lock-ups in Win95 and Linux. Before the over clock, temps were: CPU=131; board was 124 degrees. I do have thermal silicon paste on the cpu/heatsink. I am experimenting, as always, with new and used equipment I picked up at stores, sales, shows, etc. Sure is fun! Only smoked one power supply and one 486 board so far! Those casualties were due to start-up stress on capacitors, and old battery on board. Red Hat has no apparent problem running on the overclocked board! -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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I usually put about 350 to 600 MB of drivespace towards DOS/Win. Windows 95 takes about 114Mb. DOS 7.xx is in the X:/Windows/Command directory. the rest of the partition is usually enough for lots of apps. Linux is cool anywhere, because you will probably use LILO to choose which system boots up. You have no need for the third partition (Win95), as you could make the first partition(Win95) as large as you want. I do wonder at FAT32, as I don't ever use it, formatting FAT16 on all my drives. I run OSR2, Works, lotts of graphics and games, and don't experience any problems, course I am overclocking a 233mx at 373.5 mhz! Stacy Brodzik wrote: ..(snipped). I assume I need to put the boot partitions for both Win95 and LINUX at the front of the disk. Stacy Brodzik INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Washington Dept of Atmospheric Sciences Box 351640 Seattle, WA 98195-1640 -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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What will the machine be used for? A user? A server? Everything Chris - Visit Me At http://home.hiwaay.net/~jfrost - -- For My Public PGP Key Visit http://home.hiwaay.net/~jfrost/pgp_key.txt -- -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a question. I have a 486/66 with 16MB of RAM and a 1.6GB HD. How many partitions should I have and what sizes should the be? I plan on installing all the RedHat packages. Thanks, Larry This is a bit like asking "What religion should I join", or "What's the worst Microsoft product." or some such. Given 300 responses, you'll probably get 300 slightly different answers. That said, especially if you're fairly new to Linux, I'd suggest the following: /dev/hda1 everything else / /dev/hda2 200Mb /home /dev/hda364Mb swap You'll eventually end up reinstalling repartitioning to suit yourself. In the meantime, having a separate /home means a place to save copies of critical files, and that when you re-install you won't lose those critical files or your personal accounts. Best! -- Rick Forrister [EMAIL PROTECTED] Opera: Greek word meaning "death by music". --Anonymous -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
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I have a 486/66 with 16MB of RAM and a 1.6GB HD. How many partitions should I have and what sizes should the be? I plan on installing all the RedHat packages. Thanks, Larry This is a bit like asking "What religion should I join", or "What's the worst Microsoft product." or some such. Given 300 responses, you'll probably get 300 slightly different answers. true!, but bearin mind if you are going to have any dos FAT partitions that about 500mb is the best size, personally i would go for to 500mb, one for RH, one /usr, and the rest for crap. and as for the worst M$ product, i have a feeling i know what will be voted worst! Rick -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
