[Repeater-Builder] FREE UHF COMPA STATION REPEATERS

2003-11-24 Thread Shanon Lee Herron






FREE FOR THE TAKING FROM GARDEN CITY, MICHIGAN
15 MILES WEST OF DOWNTOWN DETROIT
Two Motorola UHF Compa-Stations. Both 9 Watts out. NO 
DUPLEXERS.
One is a repeater in a small four foot cabinet with covers On 
the air now.
The other was a base station in repeater use. Not 
working?
Both were moved to the Ham band. Also have some spare Tx and Rx 
modules.
No controllers but were hooked up to external units, cables left 
in place.
COMPLETE Service Manuals. 

These are being replaced with another repeater on the same pair.
This stuff goes into the dumpster in one week!!
VERY HEAVY! PICK UP ONLY!! I WILL NOT SHIP!!!
Email for particulars, include 
your phone number and I will call you back. (I getunlimited long 
distance)
Pictures on request. (I 
still need to take them)
Shanon Lee Herron KA8SPW









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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Hmm, perahps you are right.  These are the answers
I propose for those questions.

mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the contrary. I think we will be answering a lot of questions...
 What duplexer gives me the most off-freq rejection?

The dupleser with the most off-freq rejection will be the one NOT 
connected to the Spectrum transmitter.


 What can I do to reduce TX noise

Replace the spectrum transmitter with a different manufacturer.

 
 Does anyone have a spectrum analyzer for sale?

Yes, but with all the gas money you are losing on repeat trips to the
transmitter site, along with buying the best cables, duplexer, etc for the
package you probably won't be able to afford the analyzer.

 I'm not knocking Spectrum - I'm just relating experience. I have
 yet to see one that stayed clean over the long haul. Any that
 aren't clean surely can't meet the type acceptance they once had.

Well said, very well said.





 

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RE: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread Jeff DePolo WN3A
  I'm not knocking Spectrum - I'm just relating experience. I
 have yet
  to see one that stayed clean over the long haul. Any that
 aren't clean
  surely can't meet the type acceptance they once had.

 Well said, very well said.

Humor:

I have a Spectrum repeater on the air.

Oh really?  What frequency is it on?

All of them.






 

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[Repeater-Builder] info about ci motorola

2003-11-24 Thread on1mfa
hello 

i have an old gsm PA and i like use it on ham tv if possible

but i have not the datasheet on the ci 

the reference is : shwe5142
and srfe7003

tank you 

xavier ON4XAV
Belgium






 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. Johnson 3450 LPI Repeater

2003-11-24 Thread Wayne
 A: I'd stay away from Sentry, as they can't even make a good set for Mastr
II's.
 B: Do a web search. I know of a company near Sacramento, that makes
crystals, and will quote prices.
 Should be one or two other possible places out there.

- Original Message - 
From: Brent DeSalvo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:49 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] E.F. Johnson 3450 LPI Repeater


 E.J. Johnson 3450 LPI Repeater data repeater..

 Hello all im looking to re crystal a few of these repeaters that i have..

 I have contacted ICMFG and they no longer will cut crystal for this unit
im
 waiting on a response from bomar crystal.

 does anyone have no of any other Co. that will cut crystals for this unit
?
 ? ?

 it is not to old and johnsonno longer cuts crystals they use icmfg they
told
 me along with Bomar..









 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Neil McKie

  Go look at: 

 http://www.piexx.com 

 http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/syntorindex.html 

 http://www.open.org/~blenderm/syntorx  

 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/5857 


Adi Linden wrote:
 
The SRA Syntors have only one synthesizer ... is used in either
   the receive or transmit mode.
 
 I guess no good for duplex then. I guess that a range III 
 (150.8-162MHz) Syntor is unsuitable for 144.39MHz, correct? I am 
 asking just in case someone did get them to work in the amateur 
 radio band.
 
 Adi
 --
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 +-+
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Adi Linden
   Go look at: 

Thanks, quite the wealth of information! Looks like the 150.8-162MHz is 
being used for 2 meter amateur use. Now I just need to get my hands on a 
manual.

Does anyone have a Syntor VHF manual they're willing to part with?

Thanks,
Adi
-- 
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+-+
IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario





 

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[Repeater-Builder] WTD 19' racks

2003-11-24 Thread Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR
Looking for 19 racks .. would like to shave 2 sides closed


Please email me with info size and pic's

Thanks


Rick Szajkowski VA3 RZS
Charlotte Darby VA3 CMR
Node Owners of IRLP Node 2120
Lakefield Ont Canada





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Neil McKie

  Somehow, I knew this question was coming ... 

  Neil 


Adi Linden wrote:
 
Go look at:
 
 Thanks, quite the wealth of information! Looks like the 150.8-162MHz 
 is being used for 2 meter amateur use. Now I just need to get my 
 hands on a manual.
 
 Does anyone have a Syntor VHF manual they're willing to part with?
 
 Thanks,
 Adi
 --
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 +-+
 IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario
 




 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills

2003-11-24 Thread Ed Lawson
I'll give you some advice, but it has nothing to do with refilling inkjet
cartridges QUIDDIT!

Get a Laser printer, and quit playing the Gillette inkjet game

Ed  W5ZS


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 11/24/2003 at 9:26 PM Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Hello all you repeater builders.

I have a bit of an off-topic question that I'm sure someone here can help
me
with.

I, for the first time, sent in a couple of empty printer ink cartridges to
be refilled. The black one came back defective. (Haven't tried the color
one.)

Can anyone give me their experiences, good or bad, with these refill
outfits?

I use this ink jet printer to print out repeater frequencies and to print
out construction documentation on repeater projects -- just in case you
were
wondering how this problem relates to repeater building ;-)

Please reply directly to:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Adi Linden
   Somehow, I knew this question was coming ...

:)




 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills

2003-11-24 Thread Richard
Personally I find it not worthwhile. Why risk damaging your printer by using
off brand ink or cartridges? I did it once and it leaked all over the inside
of my printer!
Richard, N7TGB

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Kelsey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills


Hello all you repeater builders.

I have a bit of an off-topic question that I'm sure someone here can help me
with.

I, for the first time, sent in a couple of empty printer ink cartridges to
be refilled. The black one came back defective. (Haven't tried the color
one.)

Can anyone give me their experiences, good or bad, with these refill
outfits?

I use this ink jet printer to print out repeater frequencies and to print
out construction documentation on repeater projects -- just in case you were
wondering how this problem relates to repeater building ;-)

Please reply directly to:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills

2003-11-24 Thread anti.spam
If it is HP printer, I have never been successful at 
refilling one and making them work. In addition to that, 
they require an HP cartidge. The aftermarkets will not 
work correctly.

W3GFD


On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:36:59 -0600
  Ed Lawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll give you some advice, but it has nothing to do with 
refilling inkjet
cartridges QUIDDIT!

Get a Laser printer, and quit playing the Gillette inkjet 
game

Ed  W5ZS


*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

On 11/24/2003 at 9:26 PM Chuck Kelsey wrote:

Hello all you repeater builders.

I have a bit of an off-topic question that I'm sure 
someone here can help
me
with.

I, for the first time, sent in a couple of empty printer 
ink cartridges to
be refilled. The black one came back defective. (Haven't 
tried the color
one.)

Can anyone give me their experiences, good or bad, with 
these refill
outfits?

I use this ink jet printer to print out repeater 
frequencies and to print
out construction documentation on repeater projects -- 
just in case you
were
wondering how this problem relates to repeater building 
;-)

Please reply directly to:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck Kelsey
WB2EDV





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills

2003-11-24 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Come on guys I gave you a direct email link to keep this off the list.

Sorry to Kevin and anyone else that might not appreciate the OT traffic.

Again: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ink Cartridge Refills


 If it is HP printer, I have never been successful at 
 refilling one and making them work. In addition to that, 
 they require an HP cartidge. The aftermarkets will not 
 work correctly.
 
 W3GFD
 
 





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2221

2003-11-24 Thread Al Wolfe
Adi,
Syntors (SRA) are so cheep (I found several at Peoria hamfest for $3.00
each) that you could use easily two for a repeater. You may wish to check
out http://www.shout.net/~rieslabs/ . Roger Ries there has some unique
Syntor info. He recently converted three range III Syntors for us to 144.39
for APRS.
He also has an adapter to use garden variety (2716, etc.) EPROM's in the
Syntor. He also has software to do your own if you have a generic EPROM
writer.
He also has some interesting Micor conversion info.

73,
Al, K9SI


Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 14:13:07 -0600 (CST)
From: Adi Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Motorola Syntor, any good?

The SRA Syntors have only one synthesizer ... is used in either
   the receive or transmit mode.

 I guess no good for duplex then. I guess that a range III (150.8-162MHz)
 Syntor is unsuitable for 144.39MHz, correct? I am asking just in case
 someone did get them to work in the amateur radio band.

 Adi
 -- 
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 +-+
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Dexter McIntyre - W4DEX
A pair of Syntor UHF units configured as a repeater has performed flawlessly
for several years at this site:

http://www.w4dex.com/kc4fwc/444575.htm

Dex





 

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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]

2003-11-24 Thread ac0y5
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, JOHN MACKEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 wow, after all the warnings you still did it  decided to put a 
spectrum on
 the air!!!
 
 Just because something is type accepted does not mean it is 
quality.
 
 Good luck, you'll need it.  I guess you won't need any more advice 
from us!!

OH NO MR MACKEY, That's where you are WRONG AGAIN !! I unlike other 
some people ALWAYS have questions, and I'll ask them. The perfect 
radio presents NO challange there for no chance for a learning 
experiance. Oh I put a line in my post for you...  Or if there is 
someone that would like to contribute to the cause contact me off 
board.  If you would like to contribute a, SAY, Motorola or GE, you 
can contact me off board. Otherwise I must use what I can get at a 
price that I can afford. First, YOU or anyone else has NEVER been 
interfered with by one of MY repeaters. I DO NOT PUT UP TRASH !!! IF 
it's not right, it does not go into service by me period. You did 
not learn from my other posts that I WILL NOT PUT UP CRAP NOR DO I 
HAVE A N Y TOLORANCE FOR ANY ONE THAT DOES, PERIOD. I beleave if it 
is crap in needs to be taken off the air. That is exactly what I 
told the trustee of our clubs repeater. I spent many hours making 
shure that it was one of the best sounding machines in town and may 
be THE best.
73
ALL








 
 ac0y5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  After all the wornings from the group, and the offer of a great 
ham 
  and a very good friend, I have decided to put a SCR1000 on the 
air 
  as a repeater on 146.700Mhz. I need a manual for this animal and 
  seeing as how no one else wants to use one there must be several 
  manuals available. Seeing as how these animals must have been 
TYPE 
  ACCEPTED for commertial use they must meet some minimal spectral 
  requirements. Or if there is someone that would like to 
contribute 
  to the cause contact me off board. 
  Thanks and 73
  AC0Y 
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]

2003-11-24 Thread ac0y5
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 JOHN MACKEY wrote:
  
  I guess you won't need any more advice from us!!
 
 On the contrary. I think we will be answering a lot of questions...
 
 What duplexer gives me the most off-freq rejection?
 
 What can I do to reduce TX noise
 
 Does anyone have a spectrum analyzer for sale?
 
 Etc.
 
  ac0y5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Seeing as how these animals must have been TYPE
   ACCEPTED for commertial use they must meet some minimal 
spectral
   requirements.
 
 Well, at least ONE (the one submitted for acceptance) met some 
standards
 at the time it was submitted. Of course, I don't know of any 
standards
 for follow-up testing for when components break down. So, yes, at 
least
 one met some kind of standards at one point.
 
 I'm not knocking Spectrum - I'm just relating experience. I have
 yet to see one that stayed clean over the long haul. Any that
 aren't clean surely can't meet the type acceptance they once had.
 I've been interfered with from several 'type accepted' 
transmitters.
 
 This is one thing that Motorola always used to brag about when
 submitting bids. While Motorola specs are 'guaranteed minimum 
specs',
YEP, I've heard that from many a Motorola salesman. But experance, 
has told me that motorola will over SPEC a base transmitter for the 
sale. SPEC ON DEMAND

 many others are 'typical specs'. There IS a difference. With one, 
all
 units meet the specs, with the other, half the units do - HALF 
DON'T!
 
Joe, I don't mind taking your comments, I read a little concern. 
Please read my response to MR MACKEYs post.


73 ALL



 Joe M.





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?

2003-11-24 Thread Wayne
 You knew the question was coming, but you did not answer it?

- Original Message - 
From: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Syntor, any good?


 
   Somehow, I knew this question was coming ... 
 
   Neil 
 
 
 Adi Linden wrote:
  
 Go look at:
  
  Thanks, quite the wealth of information! Looks like the 150.8-162MHz 
  is being used for 2 meter amateur use. Now I just need to get my 
  hands on a manual.
  
  Does anyone have a Syntor VHF manual they're willing to part with?
  
  Thanks,
  Adi
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Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]

2003-11-24 Thread ac0y5
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 ac0y5 wrote:
 
  I WILL NOT PUT UP CRAP NOR DO I HAVE A N Y TOLORANCE FOR ANY ONE 
THAT DOES, PERIOD. I beleave if it is crap in needs to be taken off 
the air. That is exactly what I told the trustee of our clubs 
repeater. I spent many hours making shure that it as one of the best 
sounding machines in town and may be THE best.
 73
 ALL
 
 
 Sometimes the best sounding repeaters are the ones that need to be 
 looked at more closely.  Over occupied bandwidth issues can result 
in 
 excellent sounding audio, but at the expense of needed filtering 
to keep 
 things clean an be a good neighbor, especially in a 15 Kc channel 
 spacing world.
 
 We had a Spectrum once, it was absolutely the best sounding 
repeater 
 around by far, but at the expense of precious AF filtering ahead 
of the 
 modulator.  After the charge pump capacitors became dry in the ACC 
 controller we were using and the 15 Kc audio that resulted on the 
B- 
 rail created a 15 Kc spur, we seriously looked into the audio 
chain of 
 the Spectrum Exciter.  We were surprised that the Low Pass 
filtering 
 section was essentially non existent.  This filter was an option 
that 
 was never installed in most ham repeaters delivered from 
Spectrum from 
 the factory.
 
 Spectrum,  at least they named them properly.
 
 Just be damn certain you look at it with a SA and continue to do 
so on a 
 very regular basis.

Well said Kevin, but not JUST Spectrum machines. All repeater 
owners should look at their machines at the very least monthly on a 
SA as well as have local monitoring equipment. That is why I'm not 
crazy about NEW HAMS buying and or owning repeaters with out  some 
experiance and knowlege.
73 to ALL 



 
 Kevin Custer





 

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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread JOHN MACKEY


mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ac0y5 wrote:
  Otherwise I must use what I can get at a price that I can afford.
 
 I don't know what you paid (perhaps nothing?), but you can buy a
 Motorola or GE for a couple hundred bucks down to next to nothing.
 If I were to consider my time, I would save more money spending a couple
 hundred bucks now. Yes, I would take a Spectrum. I could use the rack
 for mounting a controller or something.

The spectrum RF gear does work EXCELLENT as a door stop!!

 
 But the main problem I've had with Spectrum is that it can be 'right'
 when you put it on, but a few weeks later, the tuning changes on its own
 and it's no longer 'right'!

I've also seen this with spectrum equipment.


 I eagerly anticipate your views on Spectrum in a year. :-))

Yes, that will be interesting.





 

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[Repeater-Builder] 2m fm

2003-11-24 Thread edrichdel
Hi I am looking for a basic radio to build that is 2 m Fm, and does 
not use the ic ne 602/612

thanx
edd





 

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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread JOHN MACKEY


Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sometimes the best sounding repeaters are the ones that need to be 
 looked at more closely.  Over occupied bandwidth issues can result in 
 excellent sounding audio, but at the expense of needed filtering to 
SNIP

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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread JOHN MACKEY
ac0y5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OH NO MR MACKEY, That's where you are WRONG AGAIN !! I unlike other 

When was I wrong the FIRST time?

 some people ALWAYS have questions, and I'll ask them. The perfect 
 radio presents NO challange there for no chance for a learning 
 experiance. Oh I put a line in my post for you...  Or if there is 
 someone that would like to contribute to the cause contact me off 
 board.  If you would like to contribute a, SAY, Motorola or GE, you 
 can contact me off board. Otherwise I must use what I can get at a 
 price that I can afford. First, YOU or anyone else has NEVER been 

You can easily find a a Motorola or GE at most hamfests and on ebay.
Example on this web link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3059774381category=4674


 interfered with by one of MY repeaters. I DO NOT PUT UP TRASH !!! IF 
 it's not right, it does not go into service by me period. You did 

We'll see what happens AFTER you put up your Spectrum

SNIP
 shure that it was one of the best sounding machines in town and may 

Please be sure to read what Kevin told you about the best sounding
machines





 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Looking For A VHF Repeater

2003-11-24 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
For ideas visit repeater-builder dot com web site, you may want to
contact a local 2 way radio shop to see if they have equipment on that
tower and about getting help with equipment and setting it up on your
pair. Most ham repeaters are made from 2 or 3 generation back commercial
radios that were removed from service when a fleet changed to the newer
radio system, when you get up a tower that far the best ones are crystal
controlled which provides good frequency stability. The antennas used on
repeaters are actually the opposite of typical ham radio uhf/vhf styles,
the repeater antennas are designed to fold the signal downwards rather
than upwards - this helps the local users as well as those in the
distance. Feedline losses will become dramatic at the 370-400 foot
length so hopefully the tower already has hardline you can connect onto
both ends, if you had a 100 watt unit with 6 db loss using some super
coax you would only have 25 watts at the top - good feedline is a must
on a tall tower. The duplexing cavities may not be enough if there is
other radio/s on the commercial 150-160 band nearby so be on the lookout
for other filters to help shut off those signals if there is already
equipment on site on high band. Autopatching controllers often start
around 6-650 but if all you need is the basic id and controller the
nhrc-2 makes a great project for the group and should take 4 or 5
classrom hours to complete. Once you aquire everything working on the
ground and do some off-tower testing it is a good idea to keep
everything locked inside one cabinet if possible. You may want to visit
ebay and look for a motorola micor or ge mastr2 radio section to do the
radio part, this will be the lowest cost part, most high band mobiles
sell for 45-95 bux - you will not need any of the factory options as
your controller that does the id function will also do the time-out
timer as well as hang time and courtesy tone. You will get some good
ideas about the radios themselves when you get the tour inside the 2way
radio shop and see the test equipment used to tune your circuits to the
correct frequency and check for spectral purity - this is where the
commercial radios shine head and shoulders above using any ham radio
radio pieces to make a repeater.

kg4ogn wrote:
 
  Hello,
   My name is Alexander and my callsign is KG4OGN. I am the president
 of the Springstead High School Amateur Radio Club KG4VJS. My club is
 trying to put up a 2 meter repeater. So far we have our coordination
 {147.075+} and a spot atop a 350 foot tower. We are in need of a
 complete repeater so if anyone has anything just sitting around they
 want to get rid of please let me know. Please do note that this is
 for a high school radio club and is being funded my high schoolers so
 if you could possibly cut us a deal on the price it would really
 help! Thanks so much and 73 My e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Alexander KG4OGN
  President/Founder
  SHSARC  ~  KG4VJS
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Re: [[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Communication SCR1000 VHF Manual]]

2003-11-24 Thread Mike WA6ILQ
At 11:03 PM 11/24/03 -0600, you wrote:

mch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ac0y5 wrote:
   Otherwise I must use what I can get at a price that I can afford.
 
  I don't know what you paid (perhaps nothing?), but you can buy a
  Motorola or GE for a couple hundred bucks down to next to nothing.
  If I were to consider my time, I would save more money spending a couple
  hundred bucks now. Yes, I would take a Spectrum. I could use the rack
  for mounting a controller or something.

The spectrum RF gear does work EXCELLENT as a door stop!!

  But the main problem I've had with Spectrum is that it can be 'right'
  when you put it on, but a few weeks later, the tuning changes on its own
  and it's no longer 'right'!

I've also seen this with spectrum equipment.

  I eagerly anticipate your views on Spectrum in a year. :-))

Yes, that will be interesting.

Let me tell you about a certain high-band Spectrum...

Many years ago the W6TRW ham radio club at TRW in Los
Angeles had a Spectrum that was factory ordered in the low
end of the 145mhz range...

Mind you this group had some high powered RF types as
members guys that designed RF links for spy satellites...
I worked there in the 1986-87-88 time frame For a feeling
of the environment there read the book The Falcon and the
Snowman sometime... it all happened there.

The Spectrum SCR-1000 RX was quite sensitive once you
got past the tendency to desense (use the best duplexer
you can afford), and the TX was OKexcept...

We had it feeding a isolator, a pass cavity, a PD 6-can pass-
reject duplexer, 30-40 feet of 7/8 feedline and a 22' Stationmaster.

The equipment was installed in the utility room of the penthouse of a
12 story office building, with the antenna on a 10 foot tower section
mounted to the roof of the adjacent elevator equipment room.

There was one other radio there, a 60w GE Mastr-II UHF repeater used
by the company rent-a-cops (the radio was complete with a 4-channel
GE voter, with three aux receivers in outlying buildings - this was a
10-12 building campus spread across 4 city blocks).

There is still to this day another 3 story government office building across
the street that hosts a number of city, county, state and federal agencies
and on the roof is a forest of antennas...

Despite the skill of the RF engineers at TRW, and at least one, maybe two
return trips to Spectrum, over a period of time the Spectrum caused the
W6TRW folk to get to know the radio techs from the LAPD, the LAFD,
the LA county radio shop, the FBI, the FAA (at LAX, a few miles away), the
Navy, the Air Force, the Secret Service, and at least one alphabet soup
agency that officially doesn't exist... (one of the customers for the spy 
satellites)
all of which used the radio spectrum in the 136-150 or 160-172mhz range
or somewhere in the 225-420mhz range

Each time the interference complaints stopped the day the Spectrum
went off the air.  Each time it was turned back on after being fixed it
was clean for a while (anything from a week to 4 months) then a phone
call arrived from a different agency...

It was replaced with a factory built 136-150mhz 90w Mastr-II that was
set up by WA6DPB's commercial 2-way shop. The day it went up on
the building the temptation to drop the Spectrum off the side was there
but the ham club would have had to pay for the cracked concrete 12
stories below.  Aside from resetting the frequency about 6 months after
it went up (after the crystals aged a little) the GE radio has needed zero
attention in over 12 years.

Please tune your new toy with a spectrum analyzer, then think three
times about putting it on an antenna, and if you value your amateur
license don't put it on a hill.

Mike WA6ILQ





 

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