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> I do wish a "History of the Sam" would come out one day. Does MacD still > follow this list? 'fraid so Tim ;) I've got a pile of docs / notes that would just about make it into a book - which is (unbelievably) still on my "list of things I must do". One day... C.
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From: Dean Woodyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >so why not embrace that not bitch about it, chances are EVERYONE on the >group has sam related software that they shouldnt have, so stop being so >bloody hypocritical. I don't. Hmm although I may have bought some software off a certain company who it has been since been suggested may not have been in a position to legally sell it. Which possibly means I'm in receipt of stolen goods. Perhaps I should just turn myself in now ;-) I do wish a "History of the Sam" would come out one day. Does MacD still follow this list? Tim
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- Original Message - From: "Matthew J Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Games > > Nope, the demo wasn't owned by Persona. I can't remember which company > > was working on the F16 game. > > Was it Digital Integration? Yep, being worked on by the programmer of the spectrum version in his spare time...
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- Original Message - From: "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Games > You're missing the point David - and one other question, how much are these > games going to cost when they eventually become available? Surely not the > original price! Just a couple of quid at most
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> Nope, the demo wasn't owned by Persona. I can't remember which company > was working on the F16 game. Was it Digital Integration?
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If memory serves me correctly, I think it was produced by Digital Integration/Revelation. But what exactly does Persona own? From: "Colin Piggot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: Re: Games Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:38:17 - > Is this demo owned by Persona now? Nope, the demo wasn't owned by Persona. I can't remember which company was working on the F16 game. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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> Is this demo owned by Persona now? Nope, the demo wasn't owned by Persona. I can't remember which company was working on the F16 game. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 14:29:13 + "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this demo owned by Persona now? AFAIK. No. > And if it is - presuming I can find the > thing, could I legally upload it? Unless somebody object violently, please do. :) -Frode
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Is this demo owned by Persona now? And if it is - presuming I can find the thing, could I legally upload it? From: Frode Tennebø <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:04:06 +0100 (MET) On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:02:01 + "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's actually rather sad that the SAM scene has ended up like this. > Somewhere in the attic is a playable demo for F16 Combat Pilot. Pleeease. Can you 'download' it from the attick and upload a dsk-image to nvg? :) -Frode _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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The one I'm referring to was on a Crash cover tape. Whether the same demo also appeared on a YS cover tape, I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me. From: "Matthew J Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:05:42 - > On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:02:01 + "Fred Bloggs" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's actually rather sad that the > SAM scene has ended up like this. > Somewhere in the attic is a > playable demo for F16 Combat Pilot. > > Pleeease. Can you 'download' it from the attick and upload a > dsk-image to nvg? :) That was on the YS tape, wasn't it?!? _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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> On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:02:01 + "Fred Bloggs" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's actually rather sad that the > SAM scene has ended up like this. > Somewhere in the attic is a > playable demo for F16 Combat Pilot. > > Pleeease. Can you 'download' it from the attick and upload a > dsk-image to nvg? :) That was on the YS tape, wasn't it?!?
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On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:02:01 + "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's actually rather sad that the SAM scene has ended up like this. > Somewhere in the attic is a playable demo for F16 Combat Pilot. Pleeease. Can you 'download' it from the attick and upload a dsk-image to nvg? :) -Frode
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I think you've misunderstood me slightly Colin. "Why would anyone want to charge for software relating to a dead computer" should have read "Why would anyone want to charge for dead software relating to a dead computer". What I'm getting at is not the new software which you've produced (and I take my hat off to you for keeping the SAM alive) it's the likes of OLD software titles which are not even in sale anymore. By this I mean EFTPOTR, Famous 5, Sam Strikes Out, Sphera, etc. These are all out of sale and were released roughly ten years ago. Why can I download Lemmings and Prince of Persia and not these? That is ALL I'm asking, and the only answers I'm getting are the fact that these titles (a rather loose term, since no-one seems to know or is just not telling me) are owned by Persona and will be made available for sale in the near future. I'm not blaming you Colin, indeed if you read a recent reply I made to Dean, I actually defended you, since you seem to be getting a lot of flak for things which are not your fault. I'm not getting at ANYONE - I just don't understand why I can download some dead software titles for free, and yet have to pay for others. From: "Colin Piggot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: Re: Games Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:41:19 - - Original Message - From: "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > why would anyone want to charge for software relating to a > dead computer? I spend a lot of time and money doing new stuff for the Sam (probably far too much in both counts) and all this bickering out there does no good at all. There are still a lot of people out there who appreciate new software and hardware for the Sam and I really, really enjoy doing it. I still get quite a few emails every so often with little snide comments about prices. I don't appreciate comments saying 'that's too expensive' when they clearly have no idea whatsoever what has gone into developing then and making them. Development costs of designing and building prototypes, PCB costs etc... it's not cheap producing new hardware on a very small scale for the Sam world, yet I continue to do it and getting slagged for it is certainly not what I like to read in my inbox. One example was the disk drive systems I launched last May... I charge 48 quid for replacement disk drive and interface board, more expensive than I intended but thats really due to having to the costs of getting my hands on the obsolete WD1772 controller, but still cheaper than the original 80 quid SamCo disk drive systems, and it works out about the same as the PC disk drive system that West Coast / Format offered several years ago. Yet I get one or two emails a month to me saying it is 'rather expensive' Thankfully the people who do buy products from me, appreciate the work and effort that goes into them - and I also hasten to add, that I have never had any complaints from people who actually buy the product and see for themselves the amount of work I put into it all. A big round of applause to them, it gives me the encouragement to continue working on new things - my website shows all the new hardware and software releases from myself over the last year - disk drives, 2-way cards, memory expansions to name a few and now the brand new mouse interface I launched on Monday, as well as continuing to release software regularly and another big game that is still in development (although not been worked on recently due to lack of time, but it's still my aim to finish it) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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I think we are talking at cross purposes then. I have paid for many bits of software and hardware from Colin. I think his prices are reasonable and hope he keeps up the good work. If the person has the copyright and just wont sell the product to people who want it then thats a different matter. A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt Sent: 08 March 2002 11:50 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Games well, in this case, the house has allready been painted, the software is out there, people are using it for free anyway, and theres plenty of places other than the official sam FTP site, so why not embrace that not bitch about it, chances are EVERYONE on the group has sam related software that they shouldnt have, so stop being so bloody hypocritical. if anyone here was serious about their copyright and selling their software then there would be websites advertising it (congradulations to colin for doing this, i can understand and therefore comply with his grumbles) but if there is a demand for stuff that isnt being sold, and the authors arent doing anything to fulfil the demand, then sod them, theres no point belching up "i hold the copyright sostop, yadda yadda yadda." bollocks, this pig-headedness only infuriates people so they copy the stuff anyway. IF however the copyright holders said "i have the copyright, so send me a few $$ for my work please, or some beer vouchers, etc etc" i wouldnt mind, i've happilly paid for stuff in the past, and would continue to do so. Dean > -Original Message- > From: Adrian Brown [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:36 AM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: RE: Games > > Lets turn this into a real world situation. > > Lets say i need my house painted and your a painter, would you come and do > that work for free? Im not going to pay you to do it, but you can do it, > so > hence according to you you should come do it for free. > > Its the same since Colin can program a game that you are not going to buy > you want him to give it to you for free anyway. > > Strange. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt > Sent: 08 March 2002 11:23 > To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' > Subject: RE: Games > > > i know that colin, but are you selling very much of the older stuff?, i > can > appreciate that you own the copyright for your hard work, but if you're > not > selling anything then why stop people using it for free, as no one was > going > to buy it anyway :-), > i get annoyed with this "its mine so no one else can have it" attitude the > world is turning into a bitter selfish place to live > > Dean > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:12 AM > > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > > Subject:Re: Games > > > > > good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd > like > > to > > > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > > > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) > > > > Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? > > > > I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other > > peoples > > titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. > > > > Colin > > > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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Colin Piggot wrote: > Well at the moment I do only deal with my own software and hardware. Hats off to you for continuing such a great service - I'm sure nobody is expecting you to give up any of your titles. I'm gonna need a Quazar Surround unit at some point in the not-too-distant future... :-) > The original plans last year for Gavin was to sell the games > for a couple of pounds (not 'full price' like you seemed to > assume) with the profits going to several charities Personally, I'd rather make a payment towards releasing the game to the public instead. Otherwise, at some time in the future we'll be in exactly the same position, and the title(s) will eventually disappear. It'd require someone to think of a figure, and for people to be willing to go along with it - all proceeds would still go to charity, naturally. Kudos to anyone who has already made their software available for free, or is willing to do so now. I only really had TurboMON to give up, but I put that on my website back in '97! Si
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Colin, your prices are reasonable, i congratulate you for doing your work on the sam, i know just how difficult it is to make any money from stuff like this nowadays, I'd certainly purchase stuff from you without a second thought if i wasnt selling my sam next month Dean > -Original Message- > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:41 AM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Games > > - Original Message - > From: "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > why would anyone want to charge for software relating to a > > dead computer? > > I spend a lot of time and money doing new stuff for the Sam (probably far > too > much in both counts) and all this bickering out there does no good at all. > There > are still a lot of people out there who appreciate new software and > hardware for > the Sam and I really, really enjoy doing it. > > I still get quite a few emails every so often with little snide comments > about > prices. I don't appreciate comments saying 'that's too expensive' when > they > clearly have no idea whatsoever what has gone into developing then and > making > them. Development costs of designing and building prototypes, PCB costs > etc... > it's not cheap producing new hardware on a very small scale for the Sam > world, > yet I continue to do it and getting slagged for it is certainly not what I > like > to read in my inbox. > > One example was the disk drive systems I launched last May... I charge 48 > quid > for replacement disk drive and interface board, more expensive than I > intended > but thats really due to having to the costs of getting my hands on the > obsolete > WD1772 controller, but still cheaper than the original 80 quid SamCo disk > drive > systems, and it works out about the same as the PC disk drive system that > West > Coast / Format offered several years ago. Yet I get one or two emails a > month to > me saying it is 'rather expensive' > > Thankfully the people who do buy products from me, appreciate the work and > effort that goes into them - and I also hasten to add, that I have never > had any > complaints from people who actually buy the product and see for themselves > the > amount of work I put into it all. > > A big round of applause to them, it gives me the encouragement to continue > working on new things - my website shows all the new hardware and software > releases from myself over the last year - disk drives, 2-way cards, memory > expansions to name a few and now the brand new mouse interface I > launched > on Monday, as well as continuing to release software regularly and another > big > game that is still in development (although not been worked on recently > due to > lack of time, but it's still my aim to finish it) > > Colin > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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well, in this case, the house has allready been painted, the software is out there, people are using it for free anyway, and theres plenty of places other than the official sam FTP site, so why not embrace that not bitch about it, chances are EVERYONE on the group has sam related software that they shouldnt have, so stop being so bloody hypocritical. if anyone here was serious about their copyright and selling their software then there would be websites advertising it (congradulations to colin for doing this, i can understand and therefore comply with his grumbles) but if there is a demand for stuff that isnt being sold, and the authors arent doing anything to fulfil the demand, then sod them, theres no point belching up "i hold the copyright sostop, yadda yadda yadda." bollocks, this pig-headedness only infuriates people so they copy the stuff anyway. IF however the copyright holders said "i have the copyright, so send me a few $$ for my work please, or some beer vouchers, etc etc" i wouldnt mind, i've happilly paid for stuff in the past, and would continue to do so. Dean > -Original Message- > From: Adrian Brown [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:36 AM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: RE: Games > > Lets turn this into a real world situation. > > Lets say i need my house painted and your a painter, would you come and do > that work for free? Im not going to pay you to do it, but you can do it, > so > hence according to you you should come do it for free. > > Its the same since Colin can program a game that you are not going to buy > you want him to give it to you for free anyway. > > Strange. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt > Sent: 08 March 2002 11:23 > To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' > Subject: RE: Games > > > i know that colin, but are you selling very much of the older stuff?, i > can > appreciate that you own the copyright for your hard work, but if you're > not > selling anything then why stop people using it for free, as no one was > going > to buy it anyway :-), > i get annoyed with this "its mine so no one else can have it" attitude the > world is turning into a bitter selfish place to live > > Dean > > > -Original Message- > > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:12 AM > > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > > Subject:Re: Games > > > > > good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd > like > > to > > > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > > > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) > > > > Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? > > > > I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other > > peoples > > titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. > > > > Colin > > > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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- Original Message - From: "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > why would anyone want to charge for software relating to a > dead computer? I spend a lot of time and money doing new stuff for the Sam (probably far too much in both counts) and all this bickering out there does no good at all. There are still a lot of people out there who appreciate new software and hardware for the Sam and I really, really enjoy doing it. I still get quite a few emails every so often with little snide comments about prices. I don't appreciate comments saying 'that's too expensive' when they clearly have no idea whatsoever what has gone into developing then and making them. Development costs of designing and building prototypes, PCB costs etc... it's not cheap producing new hardware on a very small scale for the Sam world, yet I continue to do it and getting slagged for it is certainly not what I like to read in my inbox. One example was the disk drive systems I launched last May... I charge 48 quid for replacement disk drive and interface board, more expensive than I intended but thats really due to having to the costs of getting my hands on the obsolete WD1772 controller, but still cheaper than the original 80 quid SamCo disk drive systems, and it works out about the same as the PC disk drive system that West Coast / Format offered several years ago. Yet I get one or two emails a month to me saying it is 'rather expensive' Thankfully the people who do buy products from me, appreciate the work and effort that goes into them - and I also hasten to add, that I have never had any complaints from people who actually buy the product and see for themselves the amount of work I put into it all. A big round of applause to them, it gives me the encouragement to continue working on new things - my website shows all the new hardware and software releases from myself over the last year - disk drives, 2-way cards, memory expansions to name a few and now the brand new mouse interface I launched on Monday, as well as continuing to release software regularly and another big game that is still in development (although not been worked on recently due to lack of time, but it's still my aim to finish it) Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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Lets turn this into a real world situation. Lets say i need my house painted and your a painter, would you come and do that work for free? Im not going to pay you to do it, but you can do it, so hence according to you you should come do it for free. Its the same since Colin can program a game that you are not going to buy you want him to give it to you for free anyway. Strange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt Sent: 08 March 2002 11:23 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Games i know that colin, but are you selling very much of the older stuff?, i can appreciate that you own the copyright for your hard work, but if you're not selling anything then why stop people using it for free, as no one was going to buy it anyway :-), i get annoyed with this "its mine so no one else can have it" attitude the world is turning into a bitter selfish place to live Dean > -Original Message- > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:12 AM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Games > > > good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd like > to > > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) > > Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? > > I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other > peoples > titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. > > Colin > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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Aha! That's EXACTLY what I'm getting at Dean. But I'm afraid Colin is getting the brunt of all this when it's not actually his fault. The mysterious Gavin is the man these points should be made to. The website www.samcommunity.org is still down. By all accounts, we'll be waiting months for answers. From: Dean Woodyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: "'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no'" Subject: RE: Games Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:23:20 - i know that colin, but are you selling very much of the older stuff?, i can appreciate that you own the copyright for your hard work, but if you're not selling anything then why stop people using it for free, as no one was going to buy it anyway :-), i get annoyed with this "its mine so no one else can have it" attitude the world is turning into a bitter selfish place to live Dean > -Original Message- > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:12 AM > To:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Games > > > good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd like > to > > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) > > Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? > > I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other > peoples > titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. > > Colin > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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i know that colin, but are you selling very much of the older stuff?, i can appreciate that you own the copyright for your hard work, but if you're not selling anything then why stop people using it for free, as no one was going to buy it anyway :-), i get annoyed with this "its mine so no one else can have it" attitude the world is turning into a bitter selfish place to live Dean > -Original Message- > From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:12 AM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Games > > > good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd like > to > > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) > > Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? > > I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other > peoples > titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. > > Colin > > Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam > For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: > http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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> good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd like to > know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's > restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) Erm... "Titles he's restricting" ? I sell only my own software and hardware, I am NOT RESTRICTING any other peoples titles that's up the appropriate copyright holder. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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people are interedted in sams!, did you see the prices sams on ebay were fetching when goodsam was released. good luck to colin charging for some software and hardware, but i'd like to know how much money is being made from the sale of the titles he's restricting (other than the stuff still being sold on the website) Dean > -Original Message- > From: David [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:59 PM > To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > Subject: Re: Games > > > Could be www.samcommunity.org.uk > > He's supposed to be on this list, so I'm sure he'll chirp up eventually. > > So - just download the spectrum version and run it on sam... theres bugger > all difference anyway, and it's probably less bug ridden >
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Here here. It's a good job they don't own SIM Coupe - they'd probably try and sell that!! When oh when is anyone going to realise we can't be bothered uprooting our attic just to play these games again? And we definitely can't be bothered actually PAYING for them! It's actually rather sad that the SAM scene has ended up like this. Somewhere in the attic is a playable demo for F16 Combat Pilot. How much will be charged to download a demo?!! People like Chris Pile and Simon Owen all supply FREE and excellent software for download - why would anyone want to charge for software relating to a dead computer? Charity my arse... From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:01:31 - yup - infact with MAME you can play the original arcade game! crazy! This whole argument was ALMOST relevant about five years ago when things in the SAM scene were still going, but even the biggest optimist would have to admit that the thing is dead dead dead now. Maybe Colin Piggot makes a few pennies out of it, but I'm more convinced he does it for the love of the scene (and more power to him!). But old games on an old machine have NO commercial value and trying to restrict their use only kills off what is already a dead dido dodo of a scene already. If somebody new came to me today and wanted to find out more about the SAM, what could I 'legally' show them? Jack spratt all. The entire SAM scene was badly managed by a few people who were made into 'mini celebrities' because they were able to cobble together crappy games and make a couple of hundred quid out of them and they are still trying to scrape the last few pence out of it. Give it up. All the good SAM coders have gone on to bigger and better things and still work in the industry and all the crap ones who tagged on 16 colour splodges of mess onto a Spectrum Basic program and tried to sell it to us (whilst all our friends had Amiga's) for £15 are still there trying to play 'Mr Big' still. The best game ever made for the SAM was Defender, and Chris gave that away, on the internet, for NOTHING. Now THAT is what I call promoting the SAM scene, not hanging on to the rights for bodged spectrum games and wierd puzzle games from Eastern Europe with irritating soundtracks. And now, I shall rest! see you around Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 07 March 2002 22:47 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games The only reason you're getting animated is because it's stupid. You can download Robot Monsters for the spectrum (and a few others I'll wager) for nothing, but when you try to do the same for the SAM version you're told you'll have to pay! And when you try to contact Gav, the website www.samcommunity.org is down!!! >From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >To: >Subject: RE: Games >Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:44:25 - > >I appreciate that you said Gav could do something with the games you have a >hold over, but as you rightly say that was one year ago. > >Time for a rethink maybe? > >(why am I getting so animated about all this - I don't even CARE about the >SAM anymore!) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of David Ledbury >Sent: 07 March 2002 21:52 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Re: Games > > >Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. > >He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... > >David > > > > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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You're missing the point David - and one other question, how much are these games going to cost when they eventually become available? Surely not the original price! From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: Re: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:59:06 - Could be www.samcommunity.org.uk He's supposed to be on this list, so I'm sure he'll chirp up eventually. So - just download the spectrum version and run it on sam... theres bugger all difference anyway, and it's probably less bug ridden _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: Games
Defender seems to be OK now, not that I've changed anything. Maybe I had about 20 other windows in the background slowing things down? I can't remember now... As for Lemmings, well, that's one of the great mysteries of life...but thanks anyway Simon. From: "Simon Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:35:19 - Fred Bloggs wrote: > I now have Lemmings up and running. It would help if I > unzipped it first!! Never mindit sure is a great game. That's still strange, as it should still work fine zipped or gzipped, using the ZLIB.DLL from the original SimCoupé download. > As for Defender, is it just me, or does it stop every ten or > so seconds as if it's loading something? Er, it's alright on mine guv! Do the on-screen stats show the emulation speed dropping just after the pause? Just wondering about background apps interfering in some way. Si _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
RE: Games
Fred Bloggs wrote: > I now have Lemmings up and running. It would help if I > unzipped it first!! Never mindit sure is a great game. That's still strange, as it should still work fine zipped or gzipped, using the ZLIB.DLL from the original SimCoupé download. > As for Defender, is it just me, or does it stop every ten or > so seconds as if it's loading something? Er, it's alright on mine guv! Do the on-screen stats show the emulation speed dropping just after the pause? Just wondering about background apps interfering in some way. Si
Re: Games
- Original Message - From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: RE: Games > yup - infact with MAME you can play the original arcade game! crazy! > > This whole argument was ALMOST relevant about five years ago when things in > the SAM scene were still going, but even the biggest optimist would have to > admit that the thing is dead dead dead now. Maybe Colin Piggot makes a few > pennies out of it, but I'm more convinced he does it for the love of the > scene (and more power to him!). yep - and he has more talent than most people who ever did anything commercially anyway! > But old games on an old machine have NO commercial value and trying to > restrict their use only kills off what is already a dead dido dodo of a > scene already. well you just said that you dont give a shit anyway. not that i do either [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Games
yup - infact with MAME you can play the original arcade game! crazy! This whole argument was ALMOST relevant about five years ago when things in the SAM scene were still going, but even the biggest optimist would have to admit that the thing is dead dead dead now. Maybe Colin Piggot makes a few pennies out of it, but I'm more convinced he does it for the love of the scene (and more power to him!). But old games on an old machine have NO commercial value and trying to restrict their use only kills off what is already a dead dido dodo of a scene already. If somebody new came to me today and wanted to find out more about the SAM, what could I 'legally' show them? Jack spratt all. The entire SAM scene was badly managed by a few people who were made into 'mini celebrities' because they were able to cobble together crappy games and make a couple of hundred quid out of them and they are still trying to scrape the last few pence out of it. Give it up. All the good SAM coders have gone on to bigger and better things and still work in the industry and all the crap ones who tagged on 16 colour splodges of mess onto a Spectrum Basic program and tried to sell it to us (whilst all our friends had Amiga's) for £15 are still there trying to play 'Mr Big' still. The best game ever made for the SAM was Defender, and Chris gave that away, on the internet, for NOTHING. Now THAT is what I call promoting the SAM scene, not hanging on to the rights for bodged spectrum games and wierd puzzle games from Eastern Europe with irritating soundtracks. And now, I shall rest! see you around Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 07 March 2002 22:47 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games The only reason you're getting animated is because it's stupid. You can download Robot Monsters for the spectrum (and a few others I'll wager) for nothing, but when you try to do the same for the SAM version you're told you'll have to pay! And when you try to contact Gav, the website www.samcommunity.org is down!!! >From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >To: >Subject: RE: Games >Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:44:25 - > >I appreciate that you said Gav could do something with the games you have a >hold over, but as you rightly say that was one year ago. > >Time for a rethink maybe? > >(why am I getting so animated about all this - I don't even CARE about the >SAM anymore!) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Behalf Of David Ledbury >Sent: 07 March 2002 21:52 >To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no >Subject: Re: Games > > >Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. > >He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... > >David > > > > _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: Games
Could be www.samcommunity.org.uk He's supposed to be on this list, so I'm sure he'll chirp up eventually. So - just download the spectrum version and run it on sam... theres bugger all difference anyway, and it's probably less bug ridden
Re: Games
- Original Message - From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:44 PM Subject: RE: Games > I appreciate that you said Gav could do something with the games you have a > hold over, but as you rightly say that was one year ago. Not my fault > Time for a rethink maybe? Yeah sure I'll get round to it one of these days. Perhaps when I have a quieter week - only did 350 hours last month, so I think I should squeeze it in next quarter. > (why am I getting so animated about all this - I don't even CARE about the > SAM anymore!) Me neither really
RE: Games
The only reason you're getting animated is because it's stupid. You can download Robot Monsters for the spectrum (and a few others I'll wager) for nothing, but when you try to do the same for the SAM version you're told you'll have to pay! And when you try to contact Gav, the website www.samcommunity.org is down!!! From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:44:25 - I appreciate that you said Gav could do something with the games you have a hold over, but as you rightly say that was one year ago. Time for a rethink maybe? (why am I getting so animated about all this - I don't even CARE about the SAM anymore!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ledbury Sent: 07 March 2002 21:52 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Games Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... David _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
RE: Games
I appreciate that you said Gav could do something with the games you have a hold over, but as you rightly say that was one year ago. Time for a rethink maybe? (why am I getting so animated about all this - I don't even CARE about the SAM anymore!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ledbury Sent: 07 March 2002 21:52 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Games Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... David
Re: Games
www.samcommunity.org - i think - Original Message - From: "Fred Bloggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: Re: Games > Who's Gavin? I don't mind telling him. > > > >From: "David Ledbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no > >To: > >Subject: Re: Games > >Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:51:42 - > > > >Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. > > > >He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... > > > >David > > > > > > > > > > > _ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com >
Re: Games
Who's Gavin? I don't mind telling him. From: "David Ledbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: Re: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:51:42 - Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... David _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
RE: Games
You're not wrong. From: "Johnna Teare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:44:43 - but thery're not are they? and there doesn't seem to be any sign that they ever will be. so WHY won't people give up the ghost and let some sam games out on ftp sites so that people like myself who spent so much time and money on our old friend can relive the glory days. I've got nearly all the original games hiding in an atic somewhere and I can't be bothered to go and get them and .dsk them up to play them. so i forget about sam and play someting on MAME or something. copyright counts for bullshit now for a computer that is nearly 15 years old. Fair enough, new games that Colin Piggot has written are not fair game for distribution, but really old shit like sam strikes out wasn't worth £15 when it was released, so what value does it have now??? Because there are such stupid restrictions on sam games bieng left on ftp sites, we have a list with NO new input and NOTHING to say that hasn't already been said. And our little machine lies dead in the gutter. Am I right? (You're not wrong!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ledbury Sent: 07 March 2002 21:28 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Games Available to purchase from SAM Community. Money of which going to charity. NOT available for download! David _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Games
Well tell Gavin to pull his finger out. He was granted permission around 8 - 12 months ago... David
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but thery're not are they? and there doesn't seem to be any sign that they ever will be. so WHY won't people give up the ghost and let some sam games out on ftp sites so that people like myself who spent so much time and money on our old friend can relive the glory days. I've got nearly all the original games hiding in an atic somewhere and I can't be bothered to go and get them and .dsk them up to play them. so i forget about sam and play someting on MAME or something. copyright counts for bullshit now for a computer that is nearly 15 years old. Fair enough, new games that Colin Piggot has written are not fair game for distribution, but really old shit like sam strikes out wasn't worth £15 when it was released, so what value does it have now??? Because there are such stupid restrictions on sam games bieng left on ftp sites, we have a list with NO new input and NOTHING to say that hasn't already been said. And our little machine lies dead in the gutter. Am I right? (You're not wrong!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Ledbury Sent: 07 March 2002 21:28 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Games Available to purchase from SAM Community. Money of which going to charity. NOT available for download! David
Re: Games
You're teasing us David - what titles are going to be available and when? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:00:06 + (GMT) When Sam Community (if?) sorts itself out - there are some titles which belong to Persona you can purchase the money from which will be going to Charity. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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Let's hope so. I would love to play them, if only for the sake of nostalgia. I didn't know about the bug in Robot Monsters though... From: "[rIcH_sKInflOWeRs]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:00:54 - i tell you what i would like a copy of the sam version of escape from the planet of the robot monsters, where shooting the other player while on a ladder would cause it to crash. and sam strikes back i used to love those two games i don't *think* i can see them in that ftp folder is there any way of getting hold of them? i still have the originals .. but the disks are corrupt now -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Owen Sent: 07 March 2002 20:52 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games Fred Bloggs wrote: > What I want to know is, apart from Prince of Persia and > Lemmings (which I can't get to work for some reason) Oh? What do they do when you boot from them? Are you booting them from a freshly reset SAM? The SDF image files you're using should have a size of exactly 983040 bytes (perhaps inside a zip file). > and Defender At least you've got one great game running :-) > what actual software titles are available for download? Are > there any other FTP sites out there? The software link I have in the SimCoupé FAQ is to: ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/Good/SamCRen/ I /think/ that now only contains free stuff, or some commercial items there's no longer any objection to making available. However, you probably won't find many games you remember in there (as David mentioned, we're waiting on Sam Community for some of those). There's still a lot of excellent demo/utility/magazine images in there to try out... Si --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 08/02/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 08/02/02 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Many thanks Simon - I now have Lemmings up and running. It would help if I unzipped it first!! Never mindit sure is a great game. As for Defender, is it just me, or does it stop every ten or so seconds as if it's loading something? From: "Simon Owen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: Subject: RE: Games Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:51:50 - Fred Bloggs wrote: > What I want to know is, apart from Prince of Persia and > Lemmings (which I can't get to work for some reason) Oh? What do they do when you boot from them? Are you booting them from a freshly reset SAM? The SDF image files you're using should have a size of exactly 983040 bytes (perhaps inside a zip file). > and Defender At least you've got one great game running :-) > what actual software titles are available for download? Are > there any other FTP sites out there? The software link I have in the SimCoupé FAQ is to: ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/Good/SamCRen/ I /think/ that now only contains free stuff, or some commercial items there's no longer any objection to making available. However, you probably won't find many games you remember in there (as David mentioned, we're waiting on Sam Community for some of those). There's still a lot of excellent demo/utility/magazine images in there to try out... Si _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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Available to purchase from SAM Community. Money of which going to charity. NOT available for download! David
RE: Games
i tell you what i would like a copy of the sam version of escape from the planet of the robot monsters, where shooting the other player while on a ladder would cause it to crash. and sam strikes back i used to love those two games i don't *think* i can see them in that ftp folder is there any way of getting hold of them? i still have the originals .. but the disks are corrupt now -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Owen Sent: 07 March 2002 20:52 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Games Fred Bloggs wrote: > What I want to know is, apart from Prince of Persia and > Lemmings (which I can't get to work for some reason) Oh? What do they do when you boot from them? Are you booting them from a freshly reset SAM? The SDF image files you're using should have a size of exactly 983040 bytes (perhaps inside a zip file). > and Defender At least you've got one great game running :-) > what actual software titles are available for download? Are > there any other FTP sites out there? The software link I have in the SimCoupé FAQ is to: ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/Good/SamCRen/ I /think/ that now only contains free stuff, or some commercial items there's no longer any objection to making available. However, you probably won't find many games you remember in there (as David mentioned, we're waiting on Sam Community for some of those). There's still a lot of excellent demo/utility/magazine images in there to try out... Si --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 08/02/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 08/02/02 _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Fred Bloggs wrote: > What I want to know is, apart from Prince of Persia and > Lemmings (which I can't get to work for some reason) Oh? What do they do when you boot from them? Are you booting them from a freshly reset SAM? The SDF image files you're using should have a size of exactly 983040 bytes (perhaps inside a zip file). > and Defender At least you've got one great game running :-) > what actual software titles are available for download? Are > there any other FTP sites out there? The software link I have in the SimCoupé FAQ is to: ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/Good/SamCRen/ I /think/ that now only contains free stuff, or some commercial items there's no longer any objection to making available. However, you probably won't find many games you remember in there (as David mentioned, we're waiting on Sam Community for some of those). There's still a lot of excellent demo/utility/magazine images in there to try out... Si
Re: Games
When Sam Community (if?) sorts itself out - there are some titles which belong to Persona you can purchase the money from which will be going to Charity.
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
On Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:56:05 +0100, Gavin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Excellent! Any chance of a copy of the tape, or better still can you >get into a .dsk so I can make it available from the File Library and >website? > >Gavin > O stop it Gavs. You'll be wetting yourself.
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
At 11:43 pm +0100 1/7/00, Leonard Bennett wrote: 2) I'VE GOT IT !! Ben > 2) We were talking a while back about the F16 Combat Pilot demo that was on Crash - didn't someone say they had a copy of it or am I misremembering? I'd love to see it - I know it turned out to be slow in the end, but still! Cheers, > Gavin Excellent! Any chance of a copy of the tape, or better still can you get into a .dsk so I can make it available from the File Library and website? Gavin
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
- Original Message - From: Leonard Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 11:43 PM Subject: Re: Games (Colony and F16) > 2) I'VE GOT IT !! > Ben > F16 or colony?
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
2) I'VE GOT IT !! Ben - Original Message - From: Gavin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 29 June 2000 23:36 Subject: Games (Colony and F16) > Whilst we're talking about games, I've two questions: > > 1) Did anyone ever manage to last more than one or two bloody minutes > in Colony? If so how?! Any chance of a little playing guide? (Trying > to get stuff for the next issue of SC ;) > > 2) We were talking a while back about the F16 Combat Pilot demo that > was on Crash - didn't someone say they had a copy of it or am I > misremembering? I'd love to see it - I know it turned out to be slow > in the end, but still! > > Cheers, > Gavin >
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
On Fri, 30 Jun 2000, James R Curry wrote: > By judicious use of monkeys and typewriters, Gavin Smith came up with: > > 2) We were talking a while back about the F16 Combat Pilot demo that > > was on Crash - didn't someone say they had a copy of it or am I > > misremembering? I'd love to see it - I know it turned out to be slow > > in the end, but still! > I have the tape, but it's back in England so not much good. I'd ask Graham to > pay a visit to my parents and locate it, but he is regrettably now living in > Manchester, so there's not very much I can do... :( WOS appears to have a TZX of it, although how to load that into a Sam I have no idea (at least a TZX was on the WoS extras CD I got this morning) HTH, Tim
Re: Games (Colony and F16)
By judicious use of monkeys and typewriters, Gavin Smith came up with: > Whilst we're talking about games, I've two questions: > > 1) Did anyone ever manage to last more than one or two bloody minutes > in Colony? If so how?! Any chance of a little playing guide? (Trying > to get stuff for the next issue of SC ;) > > 2) We were talking a while back about the F16 Combat Pilot demo that > was on Crash - didn't someone say they had a copy of it or am I > misremembering? I'd love to see it - I know it turned out to be slow > in the end, but still! > > Cheers, > Gavin I have the tape, but it's back in England so not much good. I'd ask Graham to pay a visit to my parents and locate it, but he is regrettably now living in Manchester, so there's not very much I can do... :( -- James R Curry - [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Well, that was a boring signature file."
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
>I think it probably depends on your producer/publisher and if you're doing an >official license or film-licensed game. All of Balor's console games have been >either one or the other. > >I know when Balor did 'Batman Forever' he and Probe didn't have as much input as >Warner Bros..!!! Same with 'Daffy Duck' (Warner again) and 'The Pagemaster' >(20th >Century Fox) I remember Balor telling me about Warner and 'Fox executives >throwing >ideas around that the poor old 8-bitters wouldn't have had a snowballs chance of >pulling off!!! ;-) > >At least anyone writing stuff on the SAM nowadays isn't restricted by such >chronic >red-tape!! ;-) > >Chris. Strange, even when I was doing GameGear stuff for Hanna Barbara there was no probs with any concepts just the GFX had to be appoved?? But then again it does (To Some Extent) depend on the product Chris White
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
-Original Message- From: Gordon Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 24 January 1999 20:49 Subject: Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query >Hated it as in 'the project', 'the end result' or 'the Fantastic Four in >general'? Yes!!! All of the above!!! ;-) >And dare I ask WHY 'foreskin'? You dared!!! I don't know, probably because the spelling is similar or maybe it's the fact that (Climbs into flame-proof suit!!!) most game programmers are still children at heart!!! ;-) Chris.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> It's nice to see that good work on a (dare I say it) defunct machine can >> get you a fairly good job. Didn't Balor also work on the Playstation >> 'Fantastic Four' game, though..? Somewhat...less-than-Fantastic... but I >> won't begrudge him that. > >Well... everyones got to start somewhere :) >Dont forget that console programmers get little say in regard to the content >of license titles :(< Yes, but what was the designer *thinking*? Did Marvel get involved at *any* stage? I can understand that they wouldn't want to throw anything legal at Probe or their publisher over that abomination due to the legal difficulties they're (hopefully) getting through, but all the same... Gameplay like that should be taken out and shot. Visually, fairly impressive... but it played like a blind, lame, rabid, mite infested corpse of a dog.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Didn't Balor also work on the Playstation >>'Fantastic Four' game, though..? Somewhat...less-than-Fantastic... but I >>won't begrudge him that. > >Yes, he was the lead programmer on that one... I'm sure he won't mind you >saying it was less than fantastic as he hated it!!! He also worked on the >PC version of FORSAKEN, or 'Foreskin' as it was nicknamed 'in-house' Hated it as in 'the project', 'the end result' or 'the Fantastic Four in general'? And dare I ask WHY 'foreskin'?
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
-Original Message- From: Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 24 January 1999 19:34 Subject: Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query >Yes they do. And I (as a Console Proggrammer ) only do the titles I want to >write and have as much input as time allows?? I think it probably depends on your producer/publisher and if you're doing an official license or film-licensed game. All of Balor's console games have been either one or the other. I know when Balor did 'Batman Forever' he and Probe didn't have as much input as Warner Bros..!!! Same with 'Daffy Duck' (Warner again) and 'The Pagemaster' (20th Century Fox) I remember Balor telling me about Warner and 'Fox executives throwing ideas around that the poor old 8-bitters wouldn't have had a snowballs chance of pulling off!!! ;-) At least anyone writing stuff on the SAM nowadays isn't restricted by such chronic red-tape!! ;-) Chris.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
From: Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 24 January 1999 19:35 Subject: Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query >>Unfortunately... it doesn't have invaders... but the Spectrum version does >>do... > >I Wrote a Space Invaders for FRED??? True... although, to be honest, I've never seen it... Want to read your articles though on coding it... perhaps it'll even make sense to someone as daft as me ;) >>Dont forget that console programmers get little say in regard to the >content >>of license titles :( >Yes they do. And I (as a Console Proggrammer ) only do the titles I want to >write and have as much input as time allows?? I suppose it depends on the particular case...
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
>Unfortunately... it doesn't have invaders... but the Spectrum version does >do... I Wrote a Space Invaders for FRED??? [SNIP] >Dont forget that console programmers get little say in regard to the content >of license titles :( Yes they do. And I (as a Console Proggrammer ) only do the titles I want to write and have as much input as time allows??
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
From: Gordon Wallis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 24 January 1999 12:42 Subject: Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've played demos of both the Sam and Speccy versions of Astroball, though > I never actually bought either. I liked the game, but I was mightily > disappointed when someone said that the Space Invaders but wasn't in the > Sam version... I did buy Dyzonium, though, and consider it to be one of the > Sam's best games (not hard, considering it's competition as a > shoot-'em-up). Unfortunately... it doesn't have invaders... but the Spectrum version does do... Are you releasing this one as well Malcolm, as I'm sure a few Speccy owners might like to buy this classic title? Also the great game Balor did: Turbulence... certainly be nice to see that available again? > It's nice to see that good work on a (dare I say it) defunct machine can > get you a fairly good job. Didn't Balor also work on the Playstation > 'Fantastic Four' game, though..? Somewhat...less-than-Fantastic... but I > won't begrudge him that. Well... everyones got to start somewhere :) Dont forget that console programmers get little say in regard to the content of license titles :(
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
>I've played demos of both the Sam and Speccy versions of Astroball, though >I never actually bought either. I liked the game, but I was mightily >disappointed when someone said that the Space Invaders but wasn't in the >Sam version... I did buy Dyzonium, though, and consider it to be one of the >Sam's best games (not hard, considering it's competition as a >shoot-'em-up). You haven't seen DEFENDER yet then ;-) >It's nice to see that good work on a (dare I say it) defunct machine can >get you a fairly good job. Didn't Balor also work on the Playstation >'Fantastic Four' game, though..? Somewhat...less-than-Fantastic... but I >won't begrudge him that. Yes, he was the lead programmer on that one... I'm sure he won't mind you saying it was less than fantastic as he hated it!!! He also worked on the PC version of FORSAKEN, or 'Foreskin' as it was nicknamed 'in-house' Chris.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Besides buying the pre-release copy of Dyzonium, I also bought Astroball. >Both >>are cracking good games (as Wallace might say) and Balor Knight deserves >>credit for writing such good games for SAM. > >Balor received due credit (but sadly hardly any money!!) for Astroball as this >was >the game that impressed Probe Software to give him a job!!!< I've played demos of both the Sam and Speccy versions of Astroball, though I never actually bought either. I liked the game, but I was mightily disappointed when someone said that the Space Invaders but wasn't in the Sam version... I did buy Dyzonium, though, and consider it to be one of the Sam's best games (not hard, considering it's competition as a shoot-'em-up). It's nice to see that good work on a (dare I say it) defunct machine can get you a fairly good job. Didn't Balor also work on the Playstation 'Fantastic Four' game, though..? Somewhat...less-than-Fantastic... but I won't begrudge him that.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
>I'm glad to hear that the games disk features the 'cheat' version of Dyzonium. >A cheque will be sent before too long (Don't worry, I remember how to >invoke the cheat routine!) I'm not too sure if Balor changed the cheat invocation in the final release!! Knowing how his mind works he probably did ;-) >Besides buying the pre-release copy of Dyzonium, I also bought Astroball. Both >are cracking good games (as Wallace might say) and Balor Knight deserves >credit for writing such good games for SAM. Balor received due credit (but sadly hardly any money!!) for Astroball as this was the game that impressed Probe Software to give him a job!!! He's currently working for them writing PC games now, the latest being a full reflective 3D texture-mapped beast to be called 'Revolt'... It's a car racing game with a difference and it looks amazing!!! So, Balor owes the humble SAM a small debt of gratitude, as it's this very machine that elevated him from 'Life on the Dole' to where he is now!!! ;-) Chris.
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
I'm glad to hear that the games disk features the 'cheat' version of Dyzonium. A cheque will be sent before too long (Don't worry, I remember how to invoke the cheat routine!) Besides buying the pre-release copy of Dyzonium, I also bought Astroball. Both are cracking good games (as Wallace might say) and Balor Knight deserves credit for writing such good games for SAM. If you've never tried them, shame on you. Make amends and buy the new games disk. It'd be worth it for those two games alone, and the added incentive of a SAM version of Defenders is too good to resist. Phil Glover
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
From: Chris Pile <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 22 January 1999 21:02 Subject: Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query >>Re: The Defenders game disk: >The version of Dyzonium (written by me old mate Balor Knight) on the >Defender disk does have the cheat mode... However; I'm not going to >'spill the beans' regarding the method(s) of invoking it ;-) Good on ya' Chris ;) Can't have it tooo easy for people :) Shame I couldn't find the original version of Plasmoid ... that went with my original SAM gear ages ago :( The original graphics (including the Swasticas (okay! spelling's off I know!) perhaps weren't as good ... but it would have been interesting to see
Re: Games Ahoy! - Dyzonium query
>Re: The Defenders game disk: > >Does the disk's version of Dyzonium have the cheat mode in it? It's an >excellent game, but too hard for the likes of me. The version of Dyzonium (written by me old mate Balor Knight) on the Defender disk does have the cheat mode... However; I'm not going to 'spill the beans' regarding the method(s) of invoking it ;-) Chris.
Re: Games Ahoy!
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com>, Gavin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >(Still looking for a SAM in mint condition, there must be one somewhere...) Have you tried the Smithsonian? ;) Graham Goring -- /\ | Ber-Limey! There's not even enough | |room to swing a cat in this sodding-| \=== ICQ: 5333545 ===/
Re: Games Ahoy!
From: Gavin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Haven't had much of a chance to play >Super Byke Championship Colin, looks as professional as all your stuff >though, Oops! what I meant to say in the previous email that Super Byke Championship was my first full price game i released back in Dec 1995! Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ ____ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! ---=== Quoted As THE BEST GAME EVER ON SAM! ===--- ++---+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |/| | | | | / | | |\ | || / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | ++---+
Re: Games Ahoy!
From: Gavin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Haven't had much of a chance to play >Super Byke Championship Colin, looks as professional as all your stuff >though, This was my full game release too... back in December 1995! >hopefully get a few goes at it over the weekend - my brother says >its funky, so it must be good then. The continous 16 bit soundtracks as well as the other surround sound effects really adds to the whole game in my opinion! Colin P. __ __ __ __ __ __ __ ____ __ __ /_ / / /_/ / / //_ /_//_//_ / /_ : Fast Mode 4 __/ / / / / / /_/__// / //_ / /_ : 3d Vector Action! ---=== Quoted As THE BEST GAME EVER ON SAM! ===--- ++---+ | COLIN PIGGOT | __ ___ __ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |/| | | | | / | | |\ | || / | | | |__| / |__| |_\ | | QUAZAR: Hardware and | /_\| |__| | | /__ | | | \ | | Software for the Sam | | ++---+
