RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Perfectly, Aubrey. Seventy percent of the time, that's why I have the TV on, 
when my media player and CDs aren't doing the job of providing white noise. 
Skiffy's stuff is kile a car wreck. You really don't want to look. You tell 
yourself, "I'm not going to look." But you find yourself not only looking, but 
slowing down to do so.





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 Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

 Date : Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:49:43 -0500

 From : Aubrey Leatherwood 

 To : 


ROFL! I'm going to give this one a shot at an answer.
 
 I'm watching because depending on what I'm doing, I may be in search of white 
noise. Some people have loud boisterous homes... I do not, at least unless it's 
the weekend and there are professional sports to be had. So I figure I'll put 
it on something that is somewhat interesting but doesn't require too much of my 
attention. Sometimes, that works in reverse. The shows are so freaking bad that 
they *steal* my attention... Does that make sense?Aubrey 
Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You Know, The 
Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 
978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.comdate: 
Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:07:16 -0800Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was 
Dragon Wars)



Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!? ? :-)-Original 
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of keithbjohn...@comcast.netsent: 
Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PMTo: scifino...@yahoogroups.comsubject: Re: 
[scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)What is "Dead and Deader". And 
"Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth awatch?I meant "Dragon Wars", not 
"Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is"100 Million B.C."? Is it that 
God-awful film with Edward Burns about theteam that goes back in time to save a 
comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's theone! The one with Coolio as a special ops 
commander! Man, just seeing him inthat had me laughing my arse off!Now that 
we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that arepretty good 
camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at acollege campus in the 
Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too goodto be true to the young 
men they vamp, until it's !
 revealed they're alienswho are feeding on the hapless stooges. I seem to 
remember they chose thelocation because it's really cold, and they're from an 
ice-bound planet. Iwant to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the 
stars. It'sreally silly fun, especially when the girls start sprout tentacles 
and theirwould-be paramours start bugging out!Oh--and I wish I could take 
credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walkout". But no, it's the movie review 
given to the worst movies in theAtlanta-based indie newspaper Creative 
Loafing.-- Original message --From: "Martin 
Baxter" > Alright, I'm chiming in.> > Worth a Mistie Watch> > Dead and Deader> 
Basilisk: The Serpent King> Dragon Sword> Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the 
Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all 
better)> > > > "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never 
more", > to quote Poe) Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt fro!
 m their > sockets with white-hot> needles)> ANYTHING with the name Uwe
 Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the > dead folks in the movie asked to 
have their names removed from the > credits) A Sound of Thunder (always thought 
that it was more boomy and > less sucky) 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one 
would think they > would've gotten it right at some point...)> Rise: Blood 
Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, > regardless of the 
potential risks) Rock Monster (shuddering) > Pterodactyl (any movie in which 
Coolio is the best actor in the cast?) > Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives 
Up To Its Name)> > (LNAO, more to come)> > > > > > -[ Received Mail 
Content ]--> > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon 
Wars)> > Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +> > From : 
keithbjohn...@comcast.net> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> > > Hey, that's 
cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really > fun camp for the 
ages, and which are just crappy schlock.> > What we need to do, gang, is st!
 art rating these movies for each other > on that level. See, as Martin just 
did, showing me t

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Baxter
LMNAATWO!!





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 Date : Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:30:14 +

 From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Come now, Tracey. I seem to remember over the years you've dipped a toe or two 
in the foetid pool of SciFi Originals! :) As a matter of fact, I distinctly 
remember some reviews you've given that started with "I don't know why I kept 
watching this but..." And I'd laugh my butt off and shake my head, knowing I 
couldn't say word the first to you about it!

Maybe we need a self help group:


"High everybody, my name is Tracey".

"HI TRACEY!!!"

"I just wanted to come here tonight to tell you all that, well, I'm a happily 
married wife and mother, and I'm a successful self-made businesswoman, and I 
have a lot of friends. I have a full life--I really do! It's just that, 
sometimes...well... I...I... (sniff!)"

(Adrianne) "It's okay, Tracey. You can say it. It's why we're here. Take your 
time, girl."

"It's just that--well...sometimes...sometimes--I watch SciFi Originals movies! 
I sneak the television on when no one's watching. I tell myself it's wrong, but 
I can't help it. And sometimes I *like* them!! (Tears streaming down face)

(Martin, eyes moist) "It's alright Tracey, we're here for you. Go on..."

"'Basilisk', 'Snakehead Terror', 'Gryphon', 
'Frankenfish'and...and...anything with Stephen Baldwin in it!"I" (Aubrey 
lets out an audible gasp, but manages to get control of herself). I feel so 
ashamed!"

CLAP-CLAP!!

(Rave) "It's okay, Tracey, it's okay. You're among friends now. We're all SciFi 
Originals Addicts, and we will help each other!" 

(Crowd moves in for a group hug. Later, tea and scones are served, while a tape 
of "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" is played to start the recovery process...)








 -- Original message --
From: "Tracey de Morsella" 
> Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!? ? 
> :-)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PM
> To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a
> watch?
> 
> I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is
> "100 Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the
> team that goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the
> one! The one with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in
> that had me laughing my arse off!
> 
> Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are
> pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a
> college campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good
> to be true to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens
> who are feeding on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the
> location because it's really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet. I
> want to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's
> really silly fun, especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their
> would-be paramours start bugging out!
> 
> Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk
> out". But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the
> Atlanta-based indie newspaper Creative Loafing.
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > Alright, I'm chiming in.
> > 
> > Worth a Mistie Watch
> > 
> > Dead and Deader
> > Basilisk: The Serpent King
> > Dragon Sword
> > Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)
> > 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never more", 
> > to quote Poe) Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their 
> > sockets with white-hot
> > needles)
> > ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the 
> > dead folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the 
> > credits) A S

Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread KeithBJohnson
Holy crap, that Basilisk has quite a cast!
I guess I understand these actors having to do what they can for money. In 
fact, all of us in this group grew up in the heyday of scifi movies like "Demon 
Seed", "Death Race 2000", "Kingdom of the Spiders", etc., where some pretty 
decent actors just did what they had to do to pay the bills. But sad when 1960s 
and 1970s FX and plots are *better* than what's playing today.

Or...thinking of "Bugs" and "Frogs", maybe I need to rethink that statement...

 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> 'Dead and Deader" is the Dean Cain flick I told you about, in which he's an 
> Army 
> officer who leads a team in search of a Central American research team, and 
> comes back zombiefied. "Basilisk" is good, provided that you're willing to 
> treat 
> it as camp from the gate. *Never* let it become serious fare, or you're 
> doomed. 
> It stars Jeremy London, who plays an archaeologist discovering a previously 
> unknown site in the Middle East with what appears to be remarkably life-like 
> stone statues, including the basilisk. He take the finds back to his 
> university 
> for a big premiere, sponsored by Yancey Butler (of "Witchblade" fame). 
> London's 
> boss is Stephen Furst (Vir Cotto from Bab5). The premiere is staged to 
> culminate 
> with the unveiling during a solar eclipse, which awakens the beast. Fun 
> ensues. 
> And Cleavant Derricks (Rembrandt from "Sliders") is there as an Army National 
> Guard colonel, too.
> 
> FUN. NO BRAIN USE ALLOWED.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
>  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
>  Date : Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:35:45 +
> 
>  From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a 
> watch?
> 
> I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is 
> "100 
> Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the team 
> that 
> goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the one! The 
> one 
> with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in that had me 
> laughing my arse off!
> 
> Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are 
> pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a 
> college 
> campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good to be 
> true 
> to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens who are 
> feeding 
> on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the location because 
> it's 
> really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet. I want to say Nicole 
> "Charles 
> in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's really silly fun, especially when 
> the girls start sprout tentacles and their would-be paramours start bugging 
> out!
> 
> Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk out". 
> But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the Atlanta-based 
> indie newspaper Creative Loafing.
> 
>  -- Original message --
> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > Alright, I'm chiming in.
> > 
> > Worth a Mistie Watch
> > 
> > Dead and Deader
> > Basilisk: The Serpent King
> > Dragon Sword
> > Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God
> > Lake Placid (on loop!)
> > 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)
> > Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)
> > Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot 
> > needles)
> > ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached
> > Wraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the movie asked to have their 
> > names 
> > removed from the credits)
> > A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)
> > 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they would've gotten it 
> right 
> > at some point...)
> > Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> > regardless 
> > of the potential risks)
> > Rock Monster (shuddering)
> > Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)
> > Abominable (aka Th

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

OMG!!! I caught the last half hour of that one! I gaped, people, GAPED at this 
ridiculous plan to "fight fire with fire" at the end of it.Aubrey 
Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You Know, The 
Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 
978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc

To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Tue, 27 Jan 
2009 07:52:54 -0500Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)







Yes, Keith, it arrived on a solar flare, and jumped from one human host to 
another to spread destruction. No names. Psych self-defense kicking in again...
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Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:39:25 +From : 
keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comi forgot Earthstorm and 
Darkstorm. Wasn't one of them about a black hole or something? They were awful! 
Oh--and do you remember that really terrible film with Sean "Lord of the Rings" 
Astin and Robert "Chakotay" Beltran? It was about some kind of fire elemental 
wreaking havoc. I think the damned thing came to Earth on a solar flare (or 
maybe it emerged from beneath the Earth's mantle. Whatever). It was another one 
with bad CGI. I told my brother recently that the finger of God writing the Law 
in "The Ten Commandments" was better CGI than the elemental in that one! 
-- Original message -- From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> > These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
> weekend viewing. > > Mistie > Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too) > Dungeons and 
Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet > Dragon Storm (Who 
thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role > than the nerd 
turned secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't mind > it) > > > 
Even if you're on a plane, walk out: > > BloodRayne > BloodRayne 2 > Any future 
BloodRaynes > (Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The 
Langoliers > Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin) > Darkstorm (That Damn 
Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles > Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook 
* MySpaceThe People You > Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR 
BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA > 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc > > > 
> To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
> 2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon 
Wars) > > > > > > > > Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and 
DeaderBasilisk: The Serpent > KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the 
Dragon GodLake Placid (on > loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all 
better)"Even if you're on a > plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", 
to quote Poe)Dragon Wars > (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with 
white-hot needles)ANYTHING > with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke 
(even the dead folks in the > movie asked to have their names removed from the 
credits)A Sound of Thunder > (always thought that it was more boomy and less 
sucky)100 Million B.C. (all that > time... one would think they would've gotten 
it right at some point...)Rise: > Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested 
the making of this, regardless of > the potential risks)Rock Monster 
(shuddering)Pterodactyl (any movie in which > Coolio is the best actor in the 
cast?)Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up > To Its Name)(LNAO, more to 
come) > -[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] 
Stephen > Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
> keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
> real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and > 
which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating these 
> movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
at > least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
that > are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an > 
underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always > 
playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the > 
baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
CGI > was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of 
the > creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every single time 
the > monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it was

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

ROFL! I'm going to give this one a shot at an answer.
 
 I'm watching because depending on what I'm doing, I may be in search of white 
noise. Some people have loud boisterous homes... I do not, at least unless it's 
the weekend and there are professional sports to be had. So I figure I'll put 
it on something that is somewhat interesting but doesn't require too much of my 
attention. Sometimes, that works in reverse. The shows are so freaking bad that 
they *steal* my attention... Does that make sense?Aubrey 
Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You Know, The 
Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 
978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.comdate: 
Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:07:16 -0800Subject: RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was 
Dragon Wars)



Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!? ? :-)-Original 
Message-From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] OnBehalf Of keithbjohn...@comcast.netsent: 
Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PMTo: scifino...@yahoogroups.comsubject: Re: 
[scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)What is "Dead and Deader". And 
"Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth awatch?I meant "Dragon Wars", not 
"Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is"100 Million B.C."? Is it that 
God-awful film with Edward Burns about theteam that goes back in time to save a 
comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's theone! The one with Coolio as a special ops 
commander! Man, just seeing him inthat had me laughing my arse off!Now that 
we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that arepretty good 
camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at acollege campus in the 
Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too goodto be true to the young 
men they vamp, until it's revealed they're alienswho are feeding on the hapless 
stooges. I seem to remember they chose thelocation because it's really cold, 
and they're from an ice-bound planet. Iwant to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" 
Eggert is one of the stars. It'sreally silly fun, especially when the girls 
start sprout tentacles and theirwould-be paramours start bugging out!Oh--and I 
wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walkout". But no, it's 
the movie review given to the worst movies in theAtlanta-based indie newspaper 
Creative Loafing.-- Original message --From: 
"Martin Baxter" > Alright, I'm chiming in.> > Worth a 
Mistie Watch> > Dead and Deader> Basilisk: The Serpent King> Dragon Sword> 
Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)> 10.5 
Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)> > > > "Even if you're on a 
plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never more", > to quote Poe) Dragon Wars 
(sooner have my eyes burnt from their > sockets with white-hot> needles)> 
ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the > dead 
folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the > credits) A 
Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and > less sucky) 100 
Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they > would've gotten it right 
at some point...)> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making 
of this, > regardless of the potential risks) Rock Monster (shuddering) > 
Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?) > 
Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)> > (LNAO, more to come)> 
> > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]--> > Subject : Re: 
[scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)> > Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 
16:09:33 +> > From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net> > To : 
scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com> > > Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing 
which B- movies are really > fun camp for the ages, and which are just crappy 
schlock.> > What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each 
other > on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this > 
Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that > are just 
plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an > underground 
facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain > always playing a 
security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) > One of the baddies got 
loose and started having human snacks. It was > so bad because the CGI was 
horrible, and the used the *exact> same* scene for every appearance of the 
creature! It was running down > this curving hallway

Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Baxter
'Dead and Deader" is the Dean Cain flick I told you about, in which he's an 
Army officer who leads a team in search of a Central American research team, 
and comes back zombiefied. "Basilisk" is good, provided that you're willing to 
treat it as camp from the gate. *Never* let it become serious fare, or you're 
doomed. It stars Jeremy London, who plays an archaeologist discovering a 
previously unknown site in the Middle East with what appears to be remarkably 
life-like stone statues, including the basilisk. He take the finds back to his 
university for a big premiere, sponsored by Yancey Butler (of "Witchblade" 
fame). London's boss is Stephen Furst (Vir Cotto from Bab5). The premiere is 
staged to culminate with the unveiling during a solar eclipse, which awakens 
the beast. Fun ensues. And Cleavant Derricks (Rembrandt from "Sliders") is 
there as an Army National Guard colonel, too.

FUN. NO BRAIN USE ALLOWED.





-----[ Received Mail Content ]------

 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

 Date : Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:35:45 +

 From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a watch?

I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is "100 
Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the team that 
goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the one! The one 
with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in that had me 
laughing my arse off!

Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are 
pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a college 
campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good to be true 
to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens who are feeding 
on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the location because it's 
really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet. I want to say Nicole 
"Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's really silly fun, 
especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their would-be paramours 
start bugging out!

Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk out". 
But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the Atlanta-based 
indie newspaper Creative Loafing.

 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.
> 
> Worth a Mistie Watch
> 
> Dead and Deader
> Basilisk: The Serpent King
> Dragon Sword
> Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God
> Lake Placid (on loop!)
> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> 
> 
> 
> "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)
> Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)
> Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot 
> needles)
> ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached
> Wraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the movie asked to have their 
> names 
> removed from the credits)
> A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)
> 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they would've gotten it 
> right 
> at some point...)
> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> regardless 
> of the potential risks)
> Rock Monster (shuddering)
> Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)
> Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)
> 
> (LNAO, more to come)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
> Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +
> 
> From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun 
> camp 
> for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.
> 
> What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other on that 
> level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this Dean Cain flick 
> is 
> a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that are just plain bad. There 
> was 
> one where he was a security chief in an underground facility creating 
> dinosaurs 
> from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always playing a security chief or soldier in a 
> top-secret facility?) One of the baddies got loose and started having human 
> snacks. It was so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact 
> same* scene 

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Yes, Keith, it arrived on a solar flare, and jumped from one human host to 
another to spread destruction. No names. Psych self-defense kicking in again...





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 From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net

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I forgot Earthstorm and Darkstorm. Wasn't one of them about a black hole or 
something? They were awful!

Oh--and do you remember that really terrible film with Sean "Lord of the Rings" 
Astin and Robert "Chakotay" Beltran? It was about some kind of fire elemental 
wreaking havoc. I think the damned thing came to Earth on a solar flare (or 
maybe it emerged from beneath the Earth's mantle. Whatever). It was another one 
with bad CGI. I told my brother recently that the finger of God writing the Law 
in "The Ten Commandments" was better CGI than the elemental in that one!

 -- Original message --
From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> 
> These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
> weekend viewing.
> 
> Mistie
> Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too)
> Dungeons and Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet
> Dragon Storm (Who thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role 
> than the nerd turned secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't 
> mind 
> it)
> 
> 
> Even if you're on a plane, walk out:
> 
> BloodRayne
> BloodRayne 2
> Any future BloodRaynes
> (Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The Langoliers
> Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)
> Darkstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles
> Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You 
> Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 
> 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
> 2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and DeaderBasilisk: The 
> Serpent 
> KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon GodLake Placid 
> (on 
> loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)"Even if you're on a 
> plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)Dragon Wars 
> (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot needles)ANYTHING 
> with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the 
> movie asked to have their names removed from the credits)A Sound of Thunder 
> (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)100 Million B.C. (all 
> that 
> time... one would think they would've gotten it right at some point...)Rise: 
> Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested the making of this, regardless of 
> the potential risks)Rock Monster (shuddering)Pterodactyl (any movie in which 
> Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives 
> Up 
> To Its Name)(LNAO, more to come)
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] 
> Stephen 
> Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
> keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
> real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and 
> which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating 
> these 
> movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
> at 
> least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
> that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always 
> playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the 
> baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
> CGI 
> was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of the 
> creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every single time the 
> monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even 
> good camp. So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick 
> can rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great 
> laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled 
> dreck that's not even worth watching for derision. And on that scale, I can 
> drop 
> a couple of films like that

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-27 Thread Martin Baxter
Tracey, I think it's a rare form of self-masochism... ;-)





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 Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:07:16 -0800

 From : "Tracey de Morsella" 

 To : 


Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!? ? 
:-)

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a
watch?

I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is
"100 Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the
team that goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the
one! The one with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in
that had me laughing my arse off!

Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are
pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a
college campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good
to be true to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens
who are feeding on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the
location because it's really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet. I
want to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's
really silly fun, especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their
would-be paramours start bugging out!

Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk
out". But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the
Atlanta-based indie newspaper Creative Loafing.

 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.
> 
> Worth a Mistie Watch
> 
> Dead and Deader
> Basilisk: The Serpent King
> Dragon Sword
> Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)
> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> 
> 
> 
> "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never more", 
> to quote Poe) Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their 
> sockets with white-hot
> needles)
> ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the 
> dead folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the 
> credits) A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and 
> less sucky) 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they 
> would've gotten it right at some point...)
> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> regardless of the potential risks) Rock Monster (shuddering) 
> Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?) 
> Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)
> 
> (LNAO, more to come)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
> Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +
> 
> From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really 
> fun camp for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.
> 
> What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other 
> on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this 
> Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain 
> always playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) 
> One of the baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was 
> so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact
> same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running down 
> this curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it 
> was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.
> 
> So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can 
> rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece 
> of CGI-filled dreck that's not even worth watching for derision.
> 
> And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:
> 
> Worth a Mistie watch:
> 
> Rock Monster (though I don&#x

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!?  ?   
:-)

-Original Message-
From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of keithbjohn...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PM
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a
watch?

I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is
"100 Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the
team that goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the
one! The one with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in
that had me laughing my arse off!

Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are
pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a
college campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good
to be true to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens
who are feeding on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the
location because it's really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet.  I
want to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's
really silly fun, especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their
would-be paramours start bugging out!

Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk
out". But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the
Atlanta-based indie newspaper Creative Loafing.

 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.
> 
> Worth a Mistie Watch
> 
> Dead and Deader
> Basilisk: The Serpent King
> Dragon Sword
> Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)
> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> 
> 
> 
> "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never more", 
> to quote Poe) Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their 
> sockets with white-hot
> needles)
> ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the 
> dead folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the 
> credits) A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and 
> less sucky) 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they 
> would've gotten it right at some point...)
> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> regardless of the potential risks) Rock Monster (shuddering) 
> Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?) 
> Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)
> 
> (LNAO, more to come)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
>  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
>  Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +
> 
>  From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really 
> fun camp for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.
> 
> What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other 
> on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this 
> Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain 
> always playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) 
> One of the baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was 
> so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact
> same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running down 
> this curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it 
> was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.
> 
> So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can 
> rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece 
> of CGI-filled dreck that's not even worth watching for derision.
> 
> And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:
> 
> Worth a Mistie watch:
> 
> Rock Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life) The Beast of 
> Bray Road (that urban werewolf legend in film) Leprechaun - yes I said 
> it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes me laugh as 
> the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Dungeons and Dragons? Is that the one with Marlon Wayans? The BloodRayne movies 
are awful. What are your thoughts about the Resident Evil movies? I've never 
seen one of them.

And hey: Stephen Baldwin was in "The Usual Suspects". That's worth something, 
right?!

 -- Original message --
From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> 
> These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
> weekend viewing.
>  
> Mistie
> Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too)
> Dungeons and Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet
> Dragon Storm (Who thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role 
> than the nerd turned  secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't 
> mind 
> it)
>  
>  
> Even if you're on a plane, walk out:
>  
> BloodRayne
> BloodRayne 2
> Any future BloodRaynes
> (Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The Langoliers
> Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)
> Darkstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles
> Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You 
> Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 
> 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
> 2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and DeaderBasilisk: The 
> Serpent 
> KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon GodLake Placid (on 
> loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)"Even if you're on a 
> plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)Dragon Wars 
> (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot needles)ANYTHING 
> with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the 
> movie asked to have their names removed from the credits)A Sound of Thunder 
> (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)100 Million B.C. (all 
> that 
> time... one would think they would've gotten it right at some point...)Rise: 
> Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested the making of this, regardless of 
> the potential risks)Rock Monster (shuddering)Pterodactyl (any movie in which 
> Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives 
> Up 
> To Its Name)(LNAO, more to come)
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] 
> Stephen 
> Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
> keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
> real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and 
> which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating 
> these 
> movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
> at 
> least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
> that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always 
> playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the 
> baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
> CGI 
> was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of the 
> creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every single time the 
> monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even 
> good camp. So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick 
> can rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great 
> laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled 
> dreck that's not even worth watching for derision. And on that scale, I can 
> drop 
> a couple of films like that: Worth a Mistie watch: Rock Monster (though I 
> don't 
> know why, it makes me life) The Beast of Bray Road (that urban werewolf 
> legend 
> in film) Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick 
> Dunn 
> (?) makes me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky 
> Charms! Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one with Patric Swayze. Again, a 
> bad 
> movie, but acting is just good enough (it has many established actors) to 
> make 
> it dumb fun Epoch - The first couple of these movies about some alien rock 
> thingie activating on Earth may be a bit befuddling, but star David Keith 
> helps 
> make &#

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
I forgot Earthstorm and Darkstorm. Wasn't one of them about a black hole or 
something? They were awful!

Oh--and do you remember that really terrible film with Sean "Lord of the Rings" 
Astin and Robert "Chakotay" Beltran? It was about some kind of fire elemental 
wreaking havoc. I think the damned thing came to Earth on a solar flare (or 
maybe it emerged from beneath the Earth's mantle. Whatever). It was another one 
with bad CGI. I told my brother recently that the finger of God writing the Law 
in "The Ten Commandments" was better CGI than the elemental in that one!

 -- Original message --
From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> 
> These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
> weekend viewing.
>  
> Mistie
> Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too)
> Dungeons and Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet
> Dragon Storm (Who thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role 
> than the nerd turned  secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't 
> mind 
> it)
>  
>  
> Even if you're on a plane, walk out:
>  
> BloodRayne
> BloodRayne 2
> Any future BloodRaynes
> (Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The Langoliers
> Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)
> Darkstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles
> Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You 
> Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 
> 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
> 2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and DeaderBasilisk: The 
> Serpent 
> KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon GodLake Placid (on 
> loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)"Even if you're on a 
> plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)Dragon Wars 
> (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot needles)ANYTHING 
> with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the 
> movie asked to have their names removed from the credits)A Sound of Thunder 
> (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)100 Million B.C. (all 
> that 
> time... one would think they would've gotten it right at some point...)Rise: 
> Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested the making of this, regardless of 
> the potential risks)Rock Monster (shuddering)Pterodactyl (any movie in which 
> Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives 
> Up 
> To Its Name)(LNAO, more to come)
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] 
> Stephen 
> Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
> keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
> real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and 
> which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating 
> these 
> movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
> at 
> least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
> that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always 
> playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the 
> baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
> CGI 
> was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of the 
> creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every single time the 
> monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even 
> good camp. So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick 
> can rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great 
> laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled 
> dreck that's not even worth watching for derision. And on that scale, I can 
> drop 
> a couple of films like that: Worth a Mistie watch: Rock Monster (though I 
> don't 
> know why, it makes me life) The Beast of Bray Road (that urban werewolf 
> legend 
> in film) Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick 
> Dunn 
> (?) makes me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky 
> Charms! Dragon Sword (I think

Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a watch?

I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is "100 
Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the team that 
goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the one! The one 
with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in that had me 
laughing my arse off!

Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are 
pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a college 
campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good to be true 
to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens who are feeding 
on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the location because it's 
really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet.  I want to say Nicole 
"Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's really silly fun, 
especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their would-be paramours 
start bugging out!

Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk out". 
But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the Atlanta-based 
indie newspaper Creative Loafing.

 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.
> 
> Worth a Mistie Watch
> 
> Dead and Deader
> Basilisk: The Serpent King
> Dragon Sword
> Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God
> Lake Placid (on loop!)
> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> 
> 
> 
> "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)
> Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)
> Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot 
> needles)
> ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached
> Wraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the movie asked to have their 
> names 
> removed from the credits)
> A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)
> 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they would've gotten it 
> right 
> at some point...)
> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> regardless 
> of the potential risks)
> Rock Monster (shuddering)
> Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)
> Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)
> 
> (LNAO, more to come)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
>  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
>  Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +
> 
>  From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun 
> camp 
> for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.
> 
> What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other on that 
> level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this Dean Cain flick 
> is 
> a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that are just plain bad. There 
> was 
> one where he was a security chief in an underground facility creating 
> dinosaurs 
> from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always playing a security chief or soldier in a 
> top-secret facility?) One of the baddies got loose and started having human 
> snacks. It was so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact 
> same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running down this 
> curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it was the 
> exact 
> same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.
> 
> So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can rate 
> it 
> on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a great laugh 
> riot 
> on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled dreck 
> that's 
> not even worth watching for derision.
> 
> And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:
> 
> Worth a Mistie watch:
> 
> Rock Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life)
> The Beast of Bray Road (that urban werewolf legend in film)
> Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) 
> makes 
> me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms!
> Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad movie, 
> but acting is just good enough (it has many established actors) to make it 
> dumb 
> fun
> Epoch - The first 

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Aubrey, you like going for the short ribs with your punches, don't you? Every 
SB hit scored points with the judges. And how could I have forgotten Bloodrayne?

And which Gargoyles movie are you referring to? The one with Joe "Jake and the 
Fat Man" Penny or the one with Michael "proof that even California redwoods can 
find gainful employment in H'Wood" Pare?





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These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
weekend viewing.
 
Mistie
Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too)
Dungeons and Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet
Dragon Storm (Who thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role 
than the nerd turned secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't mind 
it)
 
 
Even if you're on a plane, walk out:
 
BloodRayne
BloodRayne 2
Any future BloodRaynes
(Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The Langoliers
Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)
Darkstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles
Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You 
Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 
2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)







Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and DeaderBasilisk: The 
Serpent KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon GodLake 
Placid (on loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)"Even if 
you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", to quote 
Poe)Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot 
needles)ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke (even the 
dead folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the credits)A 
Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)100 
Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they would've gotten it right at 
some point...)Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested the making of 
this, regardless of the potential risks)Rock Monster (shuddering)Pterodactyl 
(any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)Abominable (aka The 
Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)(LNAO, more to come)
-----[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen 
Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and 
which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating these 
movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
at least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
that are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always 
playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the 
baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of 
the creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every singl!
 e time the monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it 
wasn't even good camp. So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a 
SciFi flick can rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if 
it'd be a great laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece 
of CGI-filled dreck that's not even worth watching for derision. And on that 
scale, I can drop a couple of films like that: Worth a Mistie watch: Rock 
Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life) The Beast of Bray Road 
(that urban werewolf legend in film) Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, 
horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. 
This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms! Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one 
with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad movie, but acting is just good enough (it has 
many established actors) to make it dumb fun Epoch - The first couple of these 
movies about some alien rock thingie activating on Earth may b!
 e a bit befuddling, but star David Keith helps make 'em watchable Alie
n Lockdown (think that's it) - there's one or two of these flicks about a 
monster loose on an orbiting prison. I think one stars Christopher Lambert. 
Dumb fun. Frankenfish - not sure why I laughed at this one, it'

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

These are lovely. My list is short because the brain has been damaged from 
weekend viewing.
 
Mistie
Epoch (I enjoyed that one, too)
Dungeons and Dragons the first one... haven't seen that second one yet
Dragon Storm (Who thought Maxwell Caulfield could find a more demeaning role 
than the nerd turned  secret-indentity-wielding hot biker? Still, I didn't mind 
it)
 
 
Even if you're on a plane, walk out:
 
BloodRayne
BloodRayne 2
Any future BloodRaynes
(Careful folks Stephen King's about to take a beating!) The Langoliers
Earthstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)
Darkstorm (That Damn Stephen Baldwin)Gargoyles
Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You 
Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 
2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: truthseeker...@lycos.comdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
2009 12:28:37 -0500Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)







Alright, I'm chiming in.Worth a Mistie WatchDead and DeaderBasilisk: The 
Serpent KingDragon SwordDungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon GodLake Placid 
(on loop!)10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)"Even if you're on 
a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)Dragon Wars 
(sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot needles)ANYTHING 
with the name Uwe Boll attachedWraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the 
movie asked to have their names removed from the credits)A Sound of Thunder 
(always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)100 Million B.C. (all 
that time... one would think they would've gotten it right at some 
point...)Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhe! re protested the making of this, 
regardless of the potential risks)Rock Monster (shuddering)Pterodactyl (any 
movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)Abominable (aka The Movie 
Which Lives Up To Its Name)(LNAO, more to come)
-----[ Received Mail Content ]--Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen 
Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +From : 
keithbjohn...@comcast.netto : scifino...@yahoogroups.comhey, that's cool. the 
real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp for the ages, and 
which are just crappy schlock. What we need to do, gang, is start rating these 
movies for each other on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that 
at least this Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his 
that are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always 
playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the 
baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was so bad because the 
CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact same* scene for every appearance of 
the creature! It was running down this curving hallway, and every single time 
the monster was shown, it was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't 
even good camp. So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi 
flick can rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be 
a great laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of 
CGI-filled dreck that's not even worth watching for derision. And on that 
scale, I can drop a couple of films like that: Worth a Mistie watch: Rock 
Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life) The Beast of Bray Road 
(that urban werewolf legend in film) Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, 
horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. 
This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms! Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one 
with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad movie, but acting is just good enough (it has 
many established actors) to make it dumb fun Epoch - The first couple of these 
movies about some alien rock thingie activating on Earth may be a bit 
befuddling, but star David Keith helps make 'em watchable Alien Lockdown (think 
that's it) - there's one or two of these flicks about a monster loose on an 
orbiting prison. I think one stars Christopher Lambert. Dumb fun. Frankenfish - 
not sure why I laughed at this one, it's one of the worst ever. But watching 
these idiot young people run from a stupid killer fish in the Louisiana Bayou 
had me rolling And from the "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" category: 
Dragon Storm - I just wailed on it. American 90210 clones as reincarnation of 
Asian warriors and royals? 'Nuff said. Gargoyles -- not the Cornel West camp 
classic--that one had great makeup and high fun, camp factor. The recent remake 
overflowing with cheap CGI Harpies - Bad acting, lackluster action, bad CGI 
Gryphon - Bad acting (though it has established actors like L

Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Alright, I'm chiming in.

Worth a Mistie Watch

Dead and Deader
Basilisk: The Serpent King
Dragon Sword
Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God
Lake Placid (on loop!)
10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)



"Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!)
Kaw ("Never more", to quote Poe)
Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their sockets with white-hot 
needles)
ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached
Wraiths of Roanoke (even the dead folks in the movie asked to have their names 
removed from the credits)
A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and less sucky)
100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they would've gotten it 
right at some point...)
Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, regardless 
of the potential risks)
Rock Monster (shuddering)
Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?)
Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)

(LNAO, more to come)





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 Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +

 From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net

 To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com


Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp 
for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.

What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other on that 
level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this Dean Cain flick 
is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that are just plain bad. There 
was one where he was a security chief in an underground facility creating 
dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always playing a security chief or 
soldier in a top-secret facility?) One of the baddies got loose and started 
having human snacks. It was so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used 
the *exact same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running 
down this curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it was 
the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.

So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can rate it 
on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a great laugh riot 
on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled dreck that's 
not even worth watching for derision.

And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:

Worth a Mistie watch:

Rock Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life)
The Beast of Bray Road (that urban werewolf legend in film)
Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes 
me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms!
Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad movie, 
but acting is just good enough (it has many established actors) to make it dumb 
fun
Epoch - The first couple of these movies about some alien rock thingie 
activating on Earth may be a bit befuddling, but star David Keith helps make 
'em watchable
Alien Lockdown (think that's it) - there's one or two of these flicks about a 
monster loose on an orbiting prison. I think one stars Christopher Lambert. 
Dumb fun.
Frankenfish - not sure why I laughed at this one, it's one of the worst ever. 
But watching these idiot young people run from a stupid killer fish in the 
Louisiana Bayou had me rolling



And from the "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" category:

Dragon Storm - I just wailed on it. American 90210 clones as reincarnation of 
Asian warriors and royals? 'Nuff said.
Gargoyles -- not the Cornel West camp classic--that one had great makeup and 
high fun, camp factor. The recent remake overflowing with cheap CGI
Harpies - Bad acting, lackluster action, bad CGI
Gryphon - Bad acting (though it has established actors like Larry Drake and 
Anthony LePalia's younger brother), lackluster action, bad CGI
That Francis Drake movie --came out last week starring Adrian "Highlander" 
Paul. It was awful! The CGI ships and ocean sucked, the characters were 
pitiful. 

There are many, many more. Basically almost every SciFi Original that's loaded 
with cheap CGI instead of good scale models or live action shots, just sucks






 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Keith, you may look askance at this, but I'm *good* with Dean Cain in such 
> movies. I think that, instinctively, he knows that these are B-moives, and 
> gives 
> them the full camp effect. One of those movies aired last weekend on Skiffy. 
> Can't remember the title, but he played an Army officer leading a Delta team 
> into a Central American country to find the members of a research team that 
> hadn't answered

Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really fun camp 
for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.

What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other on that 
level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this Dean Cain flick 
is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that are just plain bad. There 
was one where he was a security chief in an underground facility creating 
dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain always playing a security chief or 
soldier in a top-secret facility?)  One of the baddies got loose and started 
having human snacks. It was so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used 
the *exact same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running 
down this curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it was 
the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.

So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can rate it 
on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a great laugh riot 
on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece of CGI-filled dreck that's 
not even worth watching for derision.

And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:

Worth a Mistie watch:

Rock Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life)
The Beast of Bray Road (that urban werewolf legend in film)
Leprechaun - yes I said it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes 
me laugh as the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms!
Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad movie, 
but acting is just good enough (it has many established actors) to make it dumb 
fun
Epoch - The first couple of these movies about some alien rock thingie 
activating on Earth may be a bit befuddling, but star David Keith helps make 
'em watchable
Alien Lockdown (think that's it) - there's one or two of these flicks about a 
monster loose on an orbiting prison. I think one stars Christopher Lambert. 
Dumb fun.
Frankenfish - not sure why I laughed at this one, it's one of the worst ever. 
But watching these idiot young people run from a stupid killer fish in the 
Louisiana Bayou had me rolling



And from the "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" category:

Dragon Storm - I just wailed on it. American 90210 clones as reincarnation of 
Asian warriors and royals? 'Nuff said.
Gargoyles -- not the Cornel West camp classic--that one had great makeup and 
high fun, camp factor. The recent remake overflowing with cheap CGI
Harpies - Bad acting, lackluster action, bad CGI
Gryphon - Bad acting (though it has established actors like Larry Drake and 
Anthony LePalia's younger brother), lackluster action, bad CGI
That Francis Drake movie --came out last week starring Adrian "Highlander" 
Paul. It was awful! The CGI ships and ocean sucked, the characters were 
pitiful. 

There are many, many more. Basically almost every SciFi Original that's loaded 
with cheap CGI instead of good scale models or live action shots, just sucks






 -- Original message --
From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Keith, you may look askance at this, but I'm *good* with Dean Cain in such 
> movies. I think that, instinctively, he knows that these are B-moives, and 
> gives 
> them the full camp effect. One of those movies aired last weekend on Skiffy. 
> Can't remember the title, but he played an Army officer leading a Delta team 
> into a Central American country to find the members of a research team that 
> hadn't answered calls. They were working on an experimental medicine that 
> created zombies. I was foing to pass on t until I heard that Dean was 
> starring. 
> I admit to two hours of brain-off-the-hook fun. Didn't have to Mistie it. 
> Dean 
> did that himself.
> 
> Ah! "Dead and Deader" was the flick.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -[ Received Mail Content ]--
> 
>  Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
>  Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:58:20 +
> 
>  From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
>  To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor Island") 
> and 
> Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a bunch of 
> really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was myself (as always) 
> lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. One thing you note pretty 
> quickly is that they seem to be going through the cryptid and mythology books 
> for inspiration. I mean, look at all the films they've done in the last 
> couple 
> of years: Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The 
> S

RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread KeithBJohnson
Funny!
 -- Original message --
From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> 
> Indeed! And can I focus on one of your excellent points? The *writing* is 
> bad. 
> Bad horrible bad. Why? Seriously, there are tons of *mediocre* writers out 
> there 
> that could produce better screenplays than whoever's doing these. 
>  
> Now... off to IMDB to find out who these writers are and who they are either 
> related to or blackmailing.Aubrey 
> Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * 
> MySpaceThe People You Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST 
> CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc
> 
> 
> 
> To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: keithbjohn...@comcast.netdate: Mon, 26 
> Jan 
> 2009 03:58:20 +0000Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> 
> 
> I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor Island") 
> and 
> Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a bunch of 
> really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was myself (as always) 
> lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. One thing you note pretty 
> quickly is that they seem to be going through the cryptid and mythology books 
> for inspiration. I mean, look at all the films they've done in the last 
> couple 
> of years: Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The 
> Storm God, Chupacabra, Rock Monster--the whole encyclopedia of myth and 
> legend. 
> And then add in Kaw (killer crows), Frankenfish, Boa vs. Python--you get the 
> idea. Baldwin, Lamas, and myths aside, the biggest problem is that all these 
> movies suck! Bad acting, bad writing, and really, really bad CGI. Every 
> monster 
> they craft is worse than a the CGI in a five year old video game. Horrible!
> .  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Indeed! And can I focus on one of your excellent points? The *writing* is bad. Bad horrible bad. Why? Seriously, there are tons of *mediocre* writers out there that could produce better screenplays than whoever's doing these. 
 
Now... off to IMDB to find out who these writers are and who they are either related to or blackmailing.Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe People You Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comFrom: KeithBJohnson@comcast.netDate: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:58:20 +Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)



I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor Island") and Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a bunch of really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was myself (as always) lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. One thing you note pretty quickly is that they seem to be going through the cryptid and mythology books for inspiration. I mean, look at all the films they've done in the last couple of years: Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The Storm God, Chupacabra, Rock Monster--the whole encyclopedia of myth and legend. And then add in Kaw (killer crows), Frankenfish, Boa vs. Python--you get the idea. Baldwin, Lamas, and myths aside, the biggest problem is that all these movies suck! Bad acting, bad writing, and really, really bad CGI. Every monster they craft is worse than a the CGI in a five year old video game. Horrible!
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RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Aubrey Leatherwood

Indeed! And can I focus on one of your excellent points? The *writing* is bad. 
Bad horrible bad. Why? Seriously, there are tons of *mediocre* writers out 
there that could produce better screenplays than whoever's doing these. 
 
Now... off to IMDB to find out who these writers are and who they are either 
related to or blackmailing.Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook 
* MySpaceThe People You Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST 
CONTEMPORARY EROTICA 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc



To: scifino...@yahoogroups.comfrom: keithbjohn...@comcast.netdate: Mon, 26 Jan 
2009 03:58:20 +Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)



I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor Island") 
and Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a bunch 
of really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was myself (as always) 
lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. One thing you note pretty 
quickly is that they seem to be going through the cryptid and mythology books 
for inspiration. I mean, look at all the films they've done in the last couple 
of years: Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The 
Storm God, Chupacabra, Rock Monster--the whole encyclopedia of myth and legend. 
And then add in Kaw (killer crows), Frankenfish, Boa vs. Python--you get the 
idea. Baldwin, Lamas, and myths aside, the biggest problem is that all these 
movies suck! Bad acting, bad writing, and really, really bad CGI. Every monster 
they craft is worse than a the CGI in a five year old video game. Horrible!
.  








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Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

2009-01-26 Thread Martin Baxter
Keith, you may look askance at this, but I'm *good* with Dean Cain in such 
movies. I think that, instinctively, he knows that these are B-moives, and 
gives them the full camp effect. One of those movies aired last weekend on 
Skiffy. Can't remember the title, but he played an Army officer leading a Delta 
team into a Central American country to find the members of a research team 
that hadn't answered calls. They were working on an experimental medicine that 
created zombies. I was foing to pass on t until I heard that Dean was starring. 
I admit to two hours of brain-off-the-hook fun. Didn't have to Mistie it. Dean 
did that himself.

Ah! "Dead and Deader" was the flick.





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 Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

 Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:58:20 +

 From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net

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I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor Island") 
and Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a bunch 
of really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was myself (as always) 
lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. One thing you note pretty 
quickly is that they seem to be going through the cryptid and mythology books 
for inspiration. I mean, look at all the films they've done in the last couple 
of years: Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The 
Storm God, Chupacabra, Rock Monster--the whole encyclopedia of myth and legend. 
And then add in Kaw (killer crows), Frankenfish, Boa vs. Python--you get the 
idea. 

Baldwin, Lamas, and myths aside, the biggest problem is that all these movies 
suck! Bad acting, bad writing, and really, really bad CGI. Every monster they 
craft is worse than a the CGI in a five year old video game. Horrible!







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From: Aubrey Leatherwood 
> 
> Friday night into yesterday was one of those sweat shop writing sessions for 
> me. 
> Couch, laptop, grilled meat, strong iced beverage, and remote control. Ahh 
> the 
> remote control... Useful when something is on... Not so useful yesterday. 
> Harpies! Yep, Harpies on Sci Fi. Now
> 
> Much of the folklore, mythology, even urban legend I've loved to read about 
> since I was tiny, get made into SciFi Channel movies or movies that *make it* 
> to 
> SciFi. Harpies, gargoyles, dragons, Merlin (god I hate sam neill but i love 
> miranda richardson), etc... I'm excited by the prospect of them all, which is 
> why--as if I have the memory span of a fruitfly--I watch (or try to watch) 
> these 
> programs. I desperately want to suspend my disbelief for an hour or two, get 
> lost in a story, then come back from my odyssey refreshed and entertained. I 
> am, 
> yes people, a damn idiot!
> 
> In comes Stephen Baldwin. 
> 
> I've been trying to figure out how to phrase it for some minutes now, and 
> can't 
> seem to do so. I feel like an atrocity has been visited on me. How does this 
> guy 
> continue to get work, and why does a ton of it end up on Sci Fi? Why? This 
> guy 
> has made two hundred and seventy million movies. What deal has he made or 
> perhaps one of his more talented brothers (take your pick from the pill 
> poppin, 
> punch throwin, drunk dialin baldwin grab bag) with the devil to persist in 
> this 
> nonsense.
> 
> In Harpies he was an NYPD cop that went back in time after accidentally get 
> some 
> amulets and inserting them into a glowing egg of some sort. Back in time he 
> demands entry into the Lord's castle by demanding that he let Nicky from the 
> NYPD in. It gets worse, but I won't describe anymore to you. I don't have to, 
> even if you haven't seen it, you know how bad it is.
> 
> This pointless, directionless rant brought to you by the letter C for 
> craptastic.Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook * MySpaceThe 
> People You Know, The Sex They HaveROMANTIC TIMES NOMINEE FOR BEST 
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