[silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Vijay Anand
Might be a bit of a rant, possibly cause it seems to be our plight at the 
moment. Here's my sad story for those who can empathize.

Got an airtel broadband line here for the office here at The Startup Centre - 
8mbps, with a limit of 50GB. Its a 2999 rs. package. I go through the fine 
print and realize that there is a fair use policy in place, after the 50GB, 
actually way before the usage itself they tell you that you are nearing your 
quota and will be going back ten years in time unless you click on the magic 
button called Speed of Demand. We figured we will deal with it.

First three months were awesome. A steady bill of 3K and some taxes and all was 
good.

September, I get a bill for 35K. Some pretty weird math they have. There are 
multiple sessions logged for a day, a sample of which would be:

17 Sept 2011, Downloaded 25GB, Session time: 23 hours
17 Sept 2011, Downloaded 6GB, Session time: 8 hours

And that went on for pages. Apparently in Airtel's special zone, hours in a day 
extend beyond 24 hours. Spoke to the customer care, we laughed about it and he 
said it was some billing upgrade that is causing havoc and it will get fixed.

Next month, i get a bill, with the outstanding, 35K, and another 38K for the 
next month. Same story. Raised a complaint again. No resolution. This month i 
get one for another 35K. I officially own Airtel over a lakh for what was 
anticipated to be a 10K business expense.

Ive exhausted all my resources. Their twitter id is handled by some gorilla, i 
am assuming. Their only response was that they sensed i didnt have a good 
customer experience. Called the Akosha guys to handle the situation, they dug 
up some high profile contacts, got someone from airtel to call, but  two days 
later the verdict is that the billing system has logged usage Sir. I dont 
know how to break it to them that if we had exhausted our 50GB limit, and 
dropped to the 256kbps plan that they call an excuse for broadband, how it is 
even possible to download 70GB of data in 5 days, but logic is out of the 
window at this point.

I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?

Call me a coward, but at this point, i can empathize with the NRI who returned 
back to the US. It shouldnt be this bloody hard to get a service out of a 
corporate, when you are paying for it.

Vijay

-
http://www.thestartupcentre.com


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Vijay Anand vi...@vijayanand.name wrote:

 Ive exhausted all my resources. Their twitter id is handled by some gorilla, 
 i am assuming. Their only response was that they sensed i didnt have a good 
 customer experience. Called the Akosha guys to handle the situation, they dug 
 up some high profile contacts, got someone from airtel to call, but  two days 
 later the verdict is that the billing system has logged usage Sir. I dont 
 know how to break it to them that if we had exhausted our 50GB limit, and 
 dropped to the 256kbps plan that they call an excuse for broadband, how it is 
 even possible to download 70GB of data in 5 days, but logic is out of the 
 window at this point.

 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?

Is this after you've had a chat with their Nodal officers/offices ?
Most ISPs have, at one time or the other, done this, Airtel reasonably
more in recent times. The folks at the Nodal offices are generally
patient enough to give a hearing and provide a resolution.

-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
On Monday 24 October 2011 06:32 PM, Vijay Anand wrote:
 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?

Get BSNL.

 
 Call me a coward, but at this point, i can empathize with the NRI who 
 returned back to the US. It shouldnt be this bloody hard to get a service out 
 of a corporate, when you are paying for it.
 

Comcast is worse. You'll have a collection agent at your door. :) Plus
penalty at some insane percentage.

-Venkat



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Mahesh Murthy


 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?



If you're OK with it, can I have someone from Airtel call you back on this?

If you can share an account number / phone number on email that would help.

Cheers


Mahesh





Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Vijay Anand
On 24-Oct-2011, at 6:44 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?
 
 
 If you're OK with it, can I have someone from Airtel call you back on this?
 
 If you can share an account number / phone number on email that would help.

Mahesh, absolutely. I am at 9894101373. The Account/Phone number being 044 
42148697.

 
 Cheers
 
 
 Mahesh
 
 


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Vijay Anand
On 24-Oct-2011, at 6:41 PM, Venkat Mangudi s...@venkatmangudi.com wrote:

 On Monday 24 October 2011 06:32 PM, Vijay Anand wrote:
 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?
 
 Get BSNL.
 
 
 Call me a coward, but at this point, i can empathize with the NRI who 
 returned back to the US. It shouldnt be this bloody hard to get a service 
 out of a corporate, when you are paying for it.
 
 
 Comcast is worse. You'll have a collection agent at your door. :) Plus
 penalty at some insane percentage.
 
 -Venkat
 

You are possibly right. But ive dealt with customer care there, and dealing 
with customer care here, and its like talking to a talking wall. I would go 
with BSNL, except that i dread the day when the connection would go down for 
some reason :) will definitely gove it some serious thought at this point. 
Thanks.


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Vijay Anand
On 24-Oct-2011, at 6:37 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay 
sankarshan.mukhopadh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Vijay Anand vi...@vijayanand.name wrote:
 
 Ive exhausted all my resources. Their twitter id is handled by some gorilla, 
 i am assuming. Their only response was that they sensed i didnt have a 
 good customer experience. Called the Akosha guys to handle the situation, 
 they dug up some high profile contacts, got someone from airtel to call, but 
  two days later the verdict is that the billing system has logged usage 
 Sir. I dont know how to break it to them that if we had exhausted our 50GB 
 limit, and dropped to the 256kbps plan that they call an excuse for 
 broadband, how it is even possible to download 70GB of data in 5 days, but 
 logic is out of the window at this point.
 
 I am at my final point, before i talk to lawyers to file a case in consumer 
 court. Silk listers, what would you suggest?
 
 Is this after you've had a chat with their Nodal officers/offices ?
 Most ISPs have, at one time or the other, done this, Airtel reasonably
 more in recent times. The folks at the Nodal offices are generally
 patient enough to give a hearing and provide a resolution.
 

I did try reaching out to the nodal officer (have also mailed AND faxed a 
letter to them, no response yet on that). When i did get him on phone, He cut 
me off and gave me a number to call and that led to 198, into the land of the 
IVR maze which is far complicated than pan's labrynth to tread through.


 -- 
 sankarshan mukhopadhyay
 http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/
 



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you're OK with it, can I have someone from Airtel call you back on this?

 If you can share an account number / phone number on email that would help.


If you can pull strings in Airtel, Mahesh, I'd like to talk to a real Airtel
employee too. They've screwed me over internet connections at events twice.
The second time we applied a month in advance and paid up, and they still
failed to deliver on time. We spent the last week frantically chasing them.
The linemen finally turned up in the late afternoon of a full-day event and
gave us a connection for three hours.

Now Airtel insists the connection was delivered, so it's not their problem
anymore. I have no idea what the status of the connection is (I asked for it
to be cancelled the same day) and I can't find a human in Airtel who's
willing to listen for more than two minutes.

I went with Airtel because they had existing connections in the building. I
assumed it would be a simple line extension for them, vs laying cables half
a km from the main road for other ISPs.

Kiran


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you're OK with it, can I have someone from Airtel call you back on
 this?

 If you can share an account number / phone number on email that would
 help.


 If you can pull strings in Airtel, Mahesh, I'd like to talk to a real
 Airtel employee too.


Will try, Kiran.

Can you email me a contact number and some account identifier that I can
pass on to them?

Regards,

(BTW, it's not like I have a fairy godmother at Airtel - one firm I'm
associated with, Pinstorm, front-ends their online reputation management and
social media marketing. So they have a pretty deep funnel into their
customer service folks. 's all :-) )


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
By saying so on a publicly archived list you became the first point of contact 
for every random guy posting ill-spelt rants about them on mouthshut

-- 
srs (blackberry)

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On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you're OK with it, can I have someone from Airtel call you back on
 this?

 If you can share an account number / phone number on email that would
 help.


 If you can pull strings in Airtel, Mahesh, I'd like to talk to a real
 Airtel employee too.


Will try, Kiran.

Can you email me a contact number and some account identifier that I can
pass on to them?

Regards,

(BTW, it's not like I have a fairy godmother at Airtel - one firm I'm
associated with, Pinstorm, front-ends their online reputation management and
social media marketing. So they have a pretty deep funnel into their
customer service folks. 's all :-) )



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On 24 October 2011 18:32, Vijay Anand vi...@vijayanand.name wrote:
 Their twitter id is handled by some gorilla, i am assuming. Their only 
 response
 was that they sensed i didnt have a good customer experience.

On 24 October 2011 23:13, Mahesh Murthy mahesh.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 (BTW, it's not like I have a fairy godmother at Airtel - one firm I'm 
 associated with,
 Pinstorm, front-ends their online reputation management and social media
 marketing. So they have a pretty deep funnel into their customer service 
 folks.

So Vijay, the gorilla who sensed your plight works at Pinstorm.

Mahesh, you might get them to do something about that standard sense
feedback that @airtel_presence sends out. It's annoying.

Ram

--
Ramakrishnan Sundaram | r.sunda...@gmail.com | +91 860 501 5851
--



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Mahesh Murthy


 So Vijay, the gorilla who sensed your plight works at Pinstorm.


Nope, not really.

Their customer service ID: @airtel_presence is handled completely internally
by them.

Pinstorm handles the outbound ID: @Airtel_in, and also runs the scans,
stats, analytics, sentiment metrics, insights and all the other higher order
stuff.

Pinstorm doesn't do the customer service bit, but tags and hands off such
cases to them as and when it finds them.


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Mahesh Murthy
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
sur...@hserus.netwrote:

 ** By saying so on a publicly archived list you became the first point of
 contact for every random guy posting ill-spelt rants about them on mouthshut



 It's a job, someone has to do it :-)


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread J. Alfred Prufrock
 Call me a coward, but at this point, i can empathize with the NRI who
 returned back to the US. It shouldnt be this bloody hard to get a service
 out of a corporate, when you are paying for it.

 Vijay

 -
 http://www.thestartupcentre.com


Is it a myth that even in the USA, calling customer care will get you some
poppet in Gurgaon?
I have Vodafone for 3G and Tata for the internet. And they always respond.
Not that they always deliver on the issue within 24 hrs, but they talk, they
try. (But Vodafone's streaming TV on the phone connection is rubbish)

-- 
J. Alfred Prufrock

Gliding wrapt in a brown mantle, hooded
I do not know whether a man or a woman
- But who is that on the other side of you?


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread naresh v






I just bought myself a samsung 8.9 tablet,after much handwringing over the 
right tablet ..I need to insert a 3G Sim card..Please recommend the right 
one/plan etc..
I don't want to end up with a horror story of excessive billing. Mostly my use 
is for email/ facebook and watching Youtube videos etc.
I have not monitored my usage earlier..Pls help.I currently have an Airtel 3G 
connection on my iphone which is rather spotty..
Naresh


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Either vodafone or airtel - both are just fine

-- 
srs (blackberry)

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I just bought myself a samsung 8.9 tablet,after much handwringing over the 
right tablet ..I need to insert a 3G Sim card..Please recommend the right 
one/plan etc..
I don't want to end up with a horror story of excessive billing. Mostly my use 
is for email/ facebook and watching Youtube videos etc.
I have not monitored my usage earlier..Pls help.I currently have an Airtel 3G 
connection on my iphone which is rather spotty..
Naresh



Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 25-Oct-2011, at 9:59 AM, naresh v wrote:

 I just bought myself a samsung 8.9 tablet,after much handwringing over the 
 right tablet ..I need to insert a 3G Sim card..Please recommend the right 
 one/plan etc..
 I don't want to end up with a horror story of excessive billing. Mostly my 
 use is for email/ facebook and watching Youtube videos etc.
 I have not monitored my usage earlier..Pls help.I currently have an Airtel 3G 
 connection on my iphone which is rather spotty..

I have a BSNL postpaid SIM in my Galaxy Tab 10.1. It works decently except:

1. The 3G connection flakes out once in a while and restarting wireless won't 
fix it. Even going into Flight mode won't fix it. I have to reboot.

2. BSNL appears to send bills only once every two months. There are no due 
dates on the bills.

Kiran


Re: [silk] My Airtel Saga

2011-10-24 Thread Venkat Mangudi
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 09:59 AM, naresh v wrote:
 
 
 
 I just bought myself a samsung 8.9 tablet,after much handwringing
 over the right tablet ..I need to insert a 3G Sim card..Please
 recommend the right one/plan etc..
 I don't want to end up with a horror story of excessive billing.
 Mostly my use is for email/ facebook and watching Youtube videos etc.
 I have not monitored my usage earlier..Pls help.I currently have an
 Airtel 3G connection on my iphone which is rather spotty..
 Naresh*
 *

BSNL 3G plans... I have unlimited at 725/mo. Rarely do I get a bill for
over 900...