[Fwd: Solar Colliodal Silver Makers]
Eh, Lets try this again with proper spelling the moron might just get his message through!.Jeezz I need spell check! Cisco ---BeginMessage--- Listers, I have had a multitude of requests for further information on how to make a system for colliodal silver from solar or wind power. I will do some further research for this List as the products we are forced to utilize are rather inovative and there are obviously easier ways to build a system. SOLAR: Utilizing a solar panel to charge a battery or bank of batteries is a slow process and usually requires an area where you have many days of sun exposure. One system we utilize requires 3 Solar Panels. One for each of the batteries to be charged, the panels are 16+ volts for charging the 12 vdc Deep Cycle Marine batteries, and a 8-9 vdc panel for the 6 vdc Deep Cycle Marine battery. By connecting the batteries in series you get 30vdc. We use a 6 foot .999 Silver electrode on each wire and separate them quite widewe utilize a laser pointer to tell us we are in the neighborhood of the values we want. We then utilize a very sensitive Ohm meter to give us a working ratio for production. This sysyem works rather quickly and produces a good product for human consumption. We have had several batches made completely in 11 minutes and depending on the battery condition it has taken as long as an hourso one must monitor the situation closely. These panels sell for around $400.00 US each but have a 15 year life. Temperature has little effect on the working of the solar panel, but it can slow it slightly if sub-zero temps are reached. WIND POWER: This is the most efficient system for battery charging. Although the cost in some cases can stiffel your pocket book. The unit we utilize is made in Austrailia and has the capibility of outputing 20amps. It has an adjustable output for voltage from 12 volts DC to 32 volts DC. This makes it ideal for charging the 30vdc bank as one system and not require three wind generators to do the job. These units sell for about $850.00 US. We have gone so far as to utilize a Delco Alternator w/built in voltage regulator and drove it with a wind turbine of our own fabrication the total unit cost us about $100.00 US to build. It only charges the system of twelve volt batteries and requires a small unit to lower the voltage to charge the 6 volt battery. The design and technical layout for these systems is being done for me on a friends site when it is completed I will advise those still interested where to look. We have converted many homes to these systems and people are completely self-sufficient from power companies. With a little adjustment you can have all the systems you now have with very low maintenance and low cost per year for power. This does not apply in places where neither wind nor sun can be had for months at a timebut even in Wisconsin we had these systems on line and functional. For the making of CS we have been forced to find alternatives to make the product in places where transporting the already made product would not be suitable. As it stands the different groups now produce 5 gallon per village per week. Except where wells are being treated and in those cases the production exceeds 5 gallon per day. The largest production day recorded was 25 gallons which was for the initial treatment of a village well. I hope this offers some insight for you into the Solar CS making projects we utilize. Cisco ---End Message---
Re: CS/burns
my pleasure that is what i joined this list for. larry -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS nasal spray
Mike D I started to use cs for dandruff. I apply it in the morning before I head off to work. How much i use is not easy to tell. I keep it in an old CS bottle i got from some company. a squeez type plastic bottle, anyhow i just put in on my head until it runs off. sounds funny i guess but there is a good saturation going on. then i just comb the hair and let it dry by its self. i do rub it in befor combing. the cs seems to make the hair set in place and holds it all day. plain water will not do that for me. anyhow a lot of new hair has grown and tends to maintain a more youthfull color than it had before. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: URINE PH
Re: Melatonin Fountain of Youth I read that old mice who had their old pineal gland transplanted with pineal glands from young mice became younger. Melatonin is normally abundant in young children, but decreases upon puberty. Please recognize that the drug cartel TARGETS the EFFECTIVE healing medicines, not impotent ones. Go to the following site, scroll down the left menu, and click on Canadian Battle For Health Freedom. Also, it's very important to buy a brand that is properly processed, or it might do you more harm than good. http://www.iahf.com/index1.html You will find at the site how planned nutritional scare tactics are purposely released to the media to control the industry. Remember that artificial drugs kill about 300,000 people in the USA each year (180,000 according to Harvard; 100,000 according to AMA), making it the LARGEST CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE USA. Natural Medicines, in contract, have a very safe record. Please don't be fooled by the propaganda that is purposely given to the news media. The media have been controlled by the Illuminati-NewWorldOrder since 1917, and are setting you up for deception. Take care, :) Joyce Inouye On Fri, 22 May 1998, Hermes, Kristofer J wrote: I don't know much about melatonin, but I do know that it is outlawed in Canada. Before anyone goes on a tirade about government controlling people's health freedom, I don't necessarily agree or disagree with the Canadian government's position, but they might have gathered some evidence that its use is dangerous. There might be a way to investigate this through the Internet... Kris -- From: It's not me[SMTP:rocke...@micron.net] Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 6:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: URINE PH Cisco, What are the bad side effects of prolonged Melatonin use? I have not seen any serious negative side effects in any of the current stuff I have read. I would like to know because I sell a boat load of this stuff and would hate to think that people are hurting themselves. I like to warn people and let them decide whether to continue using a product. I would appreciate any info that you could provide to me. Vern -Original Message- From: Cisco ci...@iftech.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 10:06 PM Subject: Re: URINE PH Joe and Jim and Listers, pain is involved. We now use Melatonin even though the prolonged use has bad side effects the short term help is required with several of the Maleria strains and the two TB's strains. Pain and loss of sleep causes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re:melatonin
Brooks Bradley wrote: Our limited, anectdotal experimentation (on older members of our staff's extended families60 and over) have yielded very satisfactory results, with no detectable side effects...whatever. Sorry off topic Mike but my experience with melatonin is not that positive. If taken for more than a day or two , I wake up in the middle of the night somewhat wired. On many nights I will also have weird/bizarre dreams and this I have heard and read from others. Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS/burns
I met a man who told me he had 3rd and 4th degree burns on his face, hand, and arms when something exploded while fixing his car. (I forgot what exploded.) He then sprayed his face with a colloidal spray, which, he said prevented scaring and infections. He showed me his before (face was redish-black and swollen) and after (face with no scars) pictures, which were quite impressive. So, I would think colloidal silver would be good on any burns, provided its a good brand, and in a spray form (so bacteria doesn't spread with the liquid). It seems that anti-bacterial substances help prevent scars from burns. A product sold as melaleuca was used in the Gulf War, and is mandatory on buses in Israel (in case of bombings). When put on burn victims, it immediately cools the area, reduces the pain, provides anti-septic affects, and helps prevent scarring. :) Joyce Inouye jinou...@hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us On Fri, 22 May 1998, Debbie McDonald wrote: Hi All, Some time back I had read here that someone used CS on sunburn?? I burned my face last friday(worse than first degree) and it was too late to call docs so I put some CS in a mister and kept spraying the burned area,(mouth, nose and surrounding) for two hours+, kept it wet with CS, any slack and the pain was pretty bad. By bedtime it was not too uncomfortable to sleep) It never formed blisters and today you cannot tell(unless you are very close) and the numbness in the lip is going away. Just wanted to let any know that had missed the original post. Had I not read it here, I would not have tried this on myself. Thanks whoever that was. Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Swollen tonsil after cs
From: vgnev...@hop-uky.campus.mci.net Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 20:36:45 -0400 (EDT) To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Swollen tonsil after cs Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com I started taking 500 ppm cs made by Nutri Vison Inc Carson City, yesterday. About one teaspoon. Today I did the same. About three hours after the second dose my throat became sore. I can see a white swelling the size of a very large pimple in my right palatine tonsil. To confuse matters I started a new brand of Essiac Tea, Life Extension foundation and an antiparasitical program called paragon yesterday. It's my bet that the Essiac Tea is doing the trick. It is a cleanser, and the tonsil is part of the lymph system. I believe the Essiac is causing the toxins and mucus to start flushing so fast that it is trying to release right out of the tonsil as pus. The CS should be a benefit to keep any infection at bay, as the pus that will come from the tonsil is going to be full of bacteria and germs, as well as toxins. Just my observation and opinion. Jim Einert, N.D. I suspect its the silver since it taste so strong and produced a slight burning sensation in my throat. I was curious if anyone else has had this experience and if anyone would speculate as to why a germinal center would swell like this. It's my speculation its the silver, I have a feeling, its going to be a very interesting month or so. I have Hep C and am going for a PCR in July. I am going to do a high cs for the next two months. But I haven't a clue as to what would be a regeme to follow. I would deeply appreciate any remarks. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: mites
Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and boiling them) ? Even if you did boil them, they would immediately be recolonized when you put them back on your bed. There are mites everywhere in our homes. It is best to cover mattresses and pillows with zip up plastic covers - these permenantly separate mites from their food supply (flakes of dead skin - which we continuously shed). The mites will then die and not return which the bedding is covered. Stephanie Dallam RN -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: NUTRIENTS
Genny and List, Colliodal Copper is considered toxic to humans when taken in large amounts. But for plants I would like to hear something tested on that subject. We have entire farms effected by leaf molds which CS has a great effect on but some of the different types it only slows the progression. I will attempt to make some myselfI have a peach tree being destroyed by this mold and if this does the trick we could be on to something here!~ Getting away from the toxic chemicals Dow and others create for our environment and the slow poisoning of our water supplies as well as our selves has always been a concern for anyone who handles them. Would it not be strange to find another useful tool from this group which can help a food supply...even our own? Cisco Zeigler, Virginia A. x1969 wrote: Hi, Everyone! Here in Virginia just about everything we try to grow is attacked by one sort of fungus or another (not to mention japanese beetles etc.). We end up buying all sorts of fungicides and insecticides, which nobody wants to handle because of how toxic they are to humans and animals. I am excited about the prospect of using some CS as a foliar spray on my tomatoes, grapes, roses etc. I have some powdered copper, which is supposed to be an effective fungacide, but which plugs up the sprayer is otherwise messy enough that noone bothers to use itI wonder if colloidal copper might not be more useful. Just a thought Also, I wonder if the CS would kill the nematodes (not the beneficial nematodes which kill grubs in the lawn) which ruin carrots and raise havoc with the roots of other plants??? Ginny -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: URINE PH
Joe and Jim and Listers, Over the past two years we have noticed that with Herxheimer Effect that the urine Ph drops. We have found a multitude of foods which cause these rapid rise and falls of Ph in the urine and blood. We use Papaya, guava, passion fruit and bread fruits to help the body stabilize the Acid levels. I would ask Jim to explain why the addition of acid to the body causes an alkline reactionbecause I dont have the true explination. We do find that in serious CS and Rife Herx reaction that Papaya and Oranges in quantity help massively with stabilization of Ph. As to sleep we have attempted a multitude of measures espically when pain is involved. We now use Melatonin even though the prolonged use has bad side effects the short term help is required with several of the Maleria strains and the two TB's strains. Pain and loss of sleep causes some massive problems for healing. With the imbalance of Ph in the system an additional problem is created, the system is too stressed to work properly and clean itself. This is the point where we begin using Distilled water for the major intake of the person in need. It causes the system to flush and the absorbancy rate is incredible. The body of most of the people loses quantities of water through fever and sweat. As far as Ph goes we remain concerned with it every 6 to 12 hours. Your concern over the varying of Joes Ph is a good thing but it does not swing into a real bad area yet. It may be the dosage of CS which causes this swing...I would wonder where the Ph level goes after each dosage of CS and how long before the swing occursJoe if you can chart that you may have the answer to the reason for the wide Ph levels your tracking.just thinking out loud. Killoff will cause the blood and urine Ph to drop. Cisco jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: From: JOSEPH T HARRISON harris...@prodigy.net To:jein...@troi.csw.net Cc:rife-l...@eskimo.com, silver-list@eskimo.com, Multiple recipients of list DOWSING dows...@intuition.org Subject: Re: URINE PH Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:52:53 -0400 I have just gotten a PH meter and have been keeping track of my urine PH for a few days. Have also checked my distilled water. The distilled water has tested 5.9, 5.6, 6.0, 5.8 Also tested with the TDS 1 for PPM which was 1 to 2 PPM for all tests. I thought that distilled water should be neutral or PH 7.0. Hi Joe, I have tested my distilled water lately, and found it to be somewhat acid as well. I buy bottled distilled water, and I have read that it can go more acid as it sets, but should be neutral pH 7 when first made. I plan to do more study on this later. Still I believe you should be drinking distilled water. Jim I make my own distilled water, by the dual distalation process, this uses two containers separated by a catch system and spout. The upper tank acts as a condenser by having an inverted funnel inside, and the water is preheated to drive off low temp distillates. This water is then manually poured into the lower tank where H2O is boiled off at a low flame to prevent splashing into the separator. I don't believe that better distilled water can be had for a reasonable cost, and I only use store bought distilled water when traveling, which has been rare of late. The urine test readings were taken at wakeup + just before bed. Wakeuplate in day 05/16 5.17.0 05/175.36.3 05/185.36.5 05/195.06.8 05/205.17.2 Is this unusual, as this is the first time that I have had more than 1 test in 1 day? MDs seem to think 1 test every 30 to 90 days is OK. The last urine test that I have was done by a hospital on 02/27/98 which was done at the same time as a blood test, was in the morning and fasting for 12 hrs. The PH was 5.2 In the urine saliva testing I do, you don't use the first urine of the day, and you fast for 2 hours before checking your pH. Best time to take the pH is around 2 p.m. Fast those 2 hours and give me a pH reading for that, and I can tell you more. I rarely eat anything in the morning, taking only a sip or two of distilled water until lunchtime. So most of the ( late in day ) tests are fasting for 2 to 4 hrs. Hi Joe, That being the case, I see your pH is moving a quiet a bit. it went from alkaline at 7.0 then droped to 6.3 and went back up to alkaline again. You need to keep a record of what you eat to see what might be making you pH move around so much. Something you eat, drink or take is moving it around. You need some calcium to level it out. Probably a calcium citrate or a chelated calcium. I
Re: CS nasal spray / hair
Bill Kingsbury wrote: Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and boiling them) ? Ozone -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS/burns
Hi All, Some time back I had read here that someone used CS on sunburn?? I burned my face last friday(worse than first degree) and it was too late to call docs so I put some CS in a mister and kept spraying the burned area,(mouth, nose and surrounding) for two hours+, kept it wet with CS, any slack and the pain was pretty bad. By bedtime it was not too uncomfortable to sleep) It never formed blisters and today you cannot tell(unless you are very close) and the numbness in the lip is going away. Just wanted to let any know that had missed the original post. Had I not read it here, I would not have tried this on myself. Thanks whoever that was. Deb -- Debbie McDonald mailto:lullw...@flash.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: URINE PH
Cisco, What are the bad side effects of prolonged Melatonin use? I have not seen any serious negative side effects in any of the current stuff I have read. I would like to know because I sell a boat load of this stuff and would hate to think that people are hurting themselves. I like to warn people and let them decide whether to continue using a product. I would appreciate any info that you could provide to me. Vern -Original Message- From: Cisco ci...@iftech.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 10:06 PM Subject: Re: URINE PH Joe and Jim and Listers, pain is involved. We now use Melatonin even though the prolonged use has bad side effects the short term help is required with several of the Maleria strains and the two TB's strains. Pain and loss of sleep causes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
-Original Message- From: Darryl Jones vital.ea...@hunterlink.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 9:04 PM Subject: Re: nutrients Darryl, You are harsh! But am I factual is a better question? Any broad spectrum anti- biotic such as colloidal silver can not discriminate between good and bad bacteria ...though I think here we should have terms like pathogenic and non pathogenic. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am under the impression that CS is NOT an antibiotic. If I am not mistaken, antibiotics generally come from mold and bacteria. I'm not sure how you would classify CS, maybe antibiotic-like. More likely is that CS is in another class altogether. Antibiotics kill bacteria only. Apparently, CS can kill bacteria, virus, and any simple, single cell organism. How are we made up of bacteria ?... I have never heard of that before? We may not be made up of bacteria, but no doubt bacteria are vital to our life processes. Bacteria are present in our mouths, on our skin, and in our digestive tracts to name a few. Lactobacillus Acidophilus, and Bifidobacterium Bifidum are a few that I take daily to keep my digestion functioning properly. And yes I can tell you from experience, you can kill off the good bacteria with CS. I use it sparingly, internally because it tends to mess up my digestion. By adding Acidophilus/Bifidum back to the system, I can counteract the effect somewhat. Others don't seem to have this problem and I really don't know why. Just a side note, in the absence of the proper intestinal floura, candida yeast can take over and make you pretty sick. I'm fighting something along this order right now I think. As for the whole argument about whether to apply CS to the soil, I think the truth lies somewhere between both opinions expressed. I see that CS could be useful to kill molds, fungus and etc., and I can also see that CS could ultimately cause some problems for the soil. It is bacteria that converts dead organisms into plant and animal usable molecules. Bacteria is also apparently responsible for nitrogen-fixing. To quote my trusty World Book Encyclopedia, Without these bacteria, the soil and water would soon become poor in nitrogen, and all plants and animals would die. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS nasal spray / hair
Would this work? I recall reading that CS kills simple, single cell organisms, but not complex organisms. I don't think that CS would help with mites, but would certainly kill bacteria in the pores or on your pillow. -Original Message- From: Bill Kingsbury kings...@gte.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 3:57 PM Subject: Re: CS nasal spray / hair 5-21-98, NCOAMA wrote: i havn't used it in my nose for very long but i have put it on my head for nearly two years. my scalp is still flesh color and my hair is much younger looking (even the new hair that the cs grew) This makes sense, considering the theory that hair-loss is infectious in nature, (usually?) due to fungus or mites living in the hair follicles. There was a news-slot on CBS channel 2, around six weeks ago, regarding the purported discovery of the root-cause of hair loss. I missed it, but I saw the two-second preview shot -- of a wiggly mite, somehow clearly filmed in a hair follicle. Does anyone have more info ? I tried looking on their web page: www.channel2000.com , but there was nothing there, at that time. There was a special on PBS TV (Nova ?) on mites earlier this year. The largest mites (in humans) are found in the eye-lash follicles, and they are found in pores and follicles everywhere on the body -- unless you take peroxide baths often, I guess. Or colloidal silver baths... Yes, a CS hair rinse makes sense. CS in the washing machine might make sense, also, since mites live in clothing and bedding -- where ever there's (dead) human skin flakes (or dandruff). Pillows and mattresses are the most mite- populated places. Would a CS pillow- spray work ? Dust mites, naturally, live on dust, but most dust is purported to be human skin flakes. 'Mite control' is important for those with allergies and asthma, since mites (and mite feces) are a MAJOR allergy trigger. --Bill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ?
Frank, I haven't had much success with just rubbing the CS in topically. What usually works is to saturate something with CS and leave it in contact with the infected sight for some time. Cold sores get about 10 min. and other nastier infections get overnight or several days. I would think that with Mastitis, you would want the CS in contact at least overnight. -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka fmat...@senet.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 8:59 AM Subject: Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ? Well, after lurking for ages and humming and hahing, I finally got around to making not only the generator but a first batch ! Tonight. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
-Original Message- From: Darryl vital.ea...@hunterlink.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 5:32 AM Subject: Re: nutrients Darryl, You make some good points, however. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it isn't the fact that you disagree with people, it is the way you go about it that causes the problem. You may have noticed that I pointed out that you make some good points. I guess it bugs me a bit to see someone trying to contribute something and their ideas are called dumb and ignorant. The person who contributed this experience (Cisco) has had some good information for some of us. Maybe the idea of using CS in the irigation is not one of the best ideas, but hardly dumb or ignorant. People here are experimenting and learning. Some things work and some don't. I'm not opposed to pointing out error. I am not being combative for the sake of it, but don't you think we loose credibility here if we accept stuff just because it is contributed [ I do. Don't you also think we lose credibility if we forgoe common courtesy in our discourse? facts, not fantasies or apologies after all he contributed the information as facts ...someone not knowing otherwise would make a big error in accepting those facts and implementing them, C/S would suffer, as would the user of C/S ...and all because just the opposite case was not put up forcefully enough! Forcefully yes, rudely no. The quickest way to send a bunch of people packing from a discussion is to let it deteriate into name calling and bashing. Your idea is incorrect is forcefull, Your idea is stupid is rude. Perhaps a sharper tone will cause people to think or check their facts before they post, and that would mean a more useful and reliable source of knowledge, then again I may have strayed on to a social ritual that would prefer niceties to truth. Someone please demolish my argument, not demolish me. I was not interested in doing either. Darryyl . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
I don't know anything about spraying soils, but it works for spraying plants. I sprayed diseased, yellow, geraniums with BioMin minerals and colloid of silver from Total Health Concepts, and the plants became green and healthy. For a BioMin study, see: http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01/totalhealth/biomin.html About making statements--In the law of court, if you are a witness to something, your word is credible (providing you yourself are trustworthy). Since Cisco is speaking from experience, I would believe him, rather than your intellectualizations, however well-reasoned. I would suggest that you experiment with colloid of silver, then report your findings. It would be simple to buy a cheap plant and water it with a diluted colloidal silver mixture to test your hypothesis. I'd be very interested to hear about your results. :) Joyce Inouye jinou...@hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us On Thu, 21 May 1998 jein...@troi.csw.net wrote: (snip) Someone prove that sterilising the soil with an antibiotic like C/S will make for healthy plants please step forward ... If I am wrong this time and Cisco is right it is up to him and others to demonstrate that with facts, not fantasies or apologies after all he contributed the information as facts ...someone not knowing otherwise would make a big error in accepting those facts and implementing them, C/S would suffer, as would the user of C/S ...and all because just the opposite case was not put up forcefully enough! (snip) Someone please demolish my argument, not demolish me. Darryyl . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
Darryl, You are harsh! But am I factual is a better question? That is your way of doing things, I can stop that. I agree that you do make some good points. I also agree that CS may not be good for the soil. But lets look at this from a different perspective. (Mind you, I don't have any proof one way or another, this is just an idea I have.) What if the CS only distroys the bad bacteria, or if you are of the school of thought that thinks bacteria can change from good to bad and back again (which I believe it can) then maybe the CS is not killing the bacteria at all, but only changing it back to a good form. This is streching the bow to flat. Any broad spectrum anti- biotic such as colloidal silver can not discriminate between good and bad bacteria ...though I think here we should have terms like pathogenic and non pathogenic. If this is the case, the soil would only benefit from being sprayed with CS, just as the body benefits from CS. I still don't get it. What are we killing in the soil that is so harmful? We are made up of bacteria much like the soil, and the CS does not make us barren! How are we made up of bacteria ?... I have never heard of that before? regards Darryyll Just a way to look at it different. God Bless you all! Jim Einert, N.D. Darryl, You make some good points, however. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it isn't the fact that you disagree with people, it is the way you go about it that causes the problem. Well why pussy foot around ? Why should communications here be all nice touchy, feeley stuff ? If we are to get to the truth about the use and abuse of C/S silver then if some of us have some really factual stuff to put up why not simply put it up ...if that means demolishing something that is nonsense what better way to do it if someone else puts up something to knock out a wrongly held belief by me, I will be better off for it if they have to apologise for putting me right just to keep some feel good thing going, it might not knock out the wrongly held belief in me, or others. I am not being combative for the sake of it, but don't you think we loose credibility here if we accept stuff just because it is contributed [ From me or others! ] Someone prove that sterilising the soil with an antibiotic like C/S will make for healthy plants please step forward ... If I am wrong this time and Cisco is right it is up to him and others to demonstrate that with facts, not fantasies or apologies after all he contributed the information as facts ...someone not knowing otherwise would make a big error in accepting those facts and implementing them, C/S would suffer, as would the user of C/S ...and all because just the opposite case was not put up forcefully enough! There are plenty of places on the Internet to have social chit chat, and accept any theory simply because you don't want to offend a new found friend, but they will not become repositories of truth, useful, or factual information, when people are here searching for what could be life or death knowledge. Perhaps a sharper tone will cause people to think or check their facts before they post, and that would mean a more useful and reliable source of knowledge, then again I may have strayed on to a social ritual that would prefer niceties to truth. Someone please demolish my argument, not demolish me. Darryyl . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: nutrients
X-To: silver-list@eskimo.com From: Darryl Jones vital.ea...@hunterlink.net.au To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: nutrients Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 12:33:05 +1000 Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com Darryl, Sorry, I guess I got over your head with this post. I have been studying dark field microscopy and the ideals of Dr. Enderlein of Germany. Let me see if I can explain this in a nutshell. If you look at live blood under the dark field microscope, you can see the bacteria in the blood. Under a normal balanced chemistry this bacteria is considered a good bacteria. It helps us digest our food, and it helps the cells uptake the food. It also makes vitamins and enzymes. But, when the body chemistry starts to drift away from the normal levels, the bacteria change to a higher form, and the more the chemistry gets off the higher the form. Some of these forms are fungus, cell wall deficient, even virus. Once the chemistry balance is again normalized, the bacteria again revert back to the good form. And yes the good form is non-pathogenic, the bad form is pathogenic. According to Enderlein, this bacterial form cannot be destroyed. It lives on even after our death. If what Enderlein said was true (and I believe it is.) then we are not really killing these bacteria, but only reverting them back to non-pathogenic forms where they once again become beneficial. So, my point is that the CS sprayed on the soil may in fact keep the bacteria from becoming pathogenic, and if it has already became pathogenic then the CS may be reversing it back to a non-pathogenic form. There is much scientific evidence all the way back over 100 years to prove these ideas. It all started with Bechamp in France who said that bacteria changes to many forms. But the concept of a different bacteria/virus for every disease was brought out at the same time by Pasteur, and the scientific community believed Pasteur. (Actually it started before Bechamp by someone else, can't remember his name, but on his death bed Pasteur admitted that man was right all along!) Well, I hope you are not overly confused. This subject gets very deep. I don't have a full understanding of it myself, but I continue to learn. Check below for my reply to your individual questions. Darryl, You are harsh! But am I factual is a better question? I don't know. We don't always have a way of checking to be sure what we say is fact. So called facts have a way of changing over time. It was once a fact that man could not fly. But that is no longer a fact. That is your way of doing things, I can stop that. I agree that you do make some good points. I also agree that CS may not be good for the soil. But lets look at this from a different perspective. (Mind you, I don't have any proof one way or another, this is just an idea I have.) What if the CS only distroys the bad bacteria, or if you are of the school of thought that thinks bacteria can change from good to bad and back again (which I believe it can) then maybe the CS is not killing the bacteria at all, but only changing it back to a good form. This is streching the bow to flat. Any broad spectrum anti- biotic such as colloidal silver can not discriminate between good and bad bacteria ...though I think here we should have terms like pathogenic and non pathogenic. Not at all. If the idea I gave you above is true, the silver doesn't kill anything, it only changes it or brings it back to balance, which is not such a great feat at all! If this is the case, the soil would only benefit from being sprayed with CS, just as the body benefits from CS. I still don't get it. What are we killing in the soil that is so harmful? Again, are we KILLING anything. Maybe not! We are made up of bacteria much like the soil, and the CS does not make us barren! How are we made up of bacteria ?... I have never heard of that before? I think I explained that above. Take care! Jim regards Darryyll Just a way to look at it different. God Bless you all! Jim Einert, N.D. Darryl, You make some good points, however. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it isn't the fact that you disagree with people, it is the way you go about it that causes the problem. Well why pussy foot around ? Why should communications here be all nice touchy, feeley stuff ? If we are to get to the truth about the use and abuse of C/S silver then if some of us have some really factual stuff to put up why not simply put it up ...if that means demolishing something that is nonsense what better way to do it if someone else puts up something to knock out a wrongly held belief by me, I will be better off for it if they have to apologise for putting me right just to keep some feel good thing going, it might not knock out the wrongly held belief in
Re: URINE PH
From: JOSEPH T HARRISON harris...@prodigy.net To:jein...@troi.csw.net Cc:rife-l...@eskimo.com, silver-list@eskimo.com, Multiple recipients of list DOWSING dows...@intuition.org Subject: Re: URINE PH Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:52:53 -0400 I have just gotten a PH meter and have been keeping track of my urine PH for a few days. Have also checked my distilled water. The distilled water has tested 5.9, 5.6, 6.0, 5.8 Also tested with the TDS 1 for PPM which was 1 to 2 PPM for all tests. I thought that distilled water should be neutral or PH 7.0. Hi Joe, I have tested my distilled water lately, and found it to be somewhat acid as well. I buy bottled distilled water, and I have read that it can go more acid as it sets, but should be neutral pH 7 when first made. I plan to do more study on this later. Still I believe you should be drinking distilled water. Jim I make my own distilled water, by the dual distalation process, this uses two containers separated by a catch system and spout. The upper tank acts as a condenser by having an inverted funnel inside, and the water is preheated to drive off low temp distillates. This water is then manually poured into the lower tank where H2O is boiled off at a low flame to prevent splashing into the separator. I don't believe that better distilled water can be had for a reasonable cost, and I only use store bought distilled water when traveling, which has been rare of late. The urine test readings were taken at wakeup + just before bed. Wakeuplate in day 05/16 5.17.0 05/175.36.3 05/185.36.5 05/195.06.8 05/205.17.2 Is this unusual, as this is the first time that I have had more than 1 test in 1 day? MDs seem to think 1 test every 30 to 90 days is OK. The last urine test that I have was done by a hospital on 02/27/98 which was done at the same time as a blood test, was in the morning and fasting for 12 hrs. The PH was 5.2 In the urine saliva testing I do, you don't use the first urine of the day, and you fast for 2 hours before checking your pH. Best time to take the pH is around 2 p.m. Fast those 2 hours and give me a pH reading for that, and I can tell you more. I rarely eat anything in the morning, taking only a sip or two of distilled water until lunchtime. So most of the ( late in day ) tests are fasting for 2 to 4 hrs. Hi Joe, That being the case, I see your pH is moving a quiet a bit. it went from alkaline at 7.0 then droped to 6.3 and went back up to alkaline again. You need to keep a record of what you eat to see what might be making you pH move around so much. Something you eat, drink or take is moving it around. You need some calcium to level it out. Probably a calcium citrate or a chelated calcium. I have SLEEP APNEA and am on a Bi-PAP machine every night. Also have had anemia for 10 years and have had blood transfusions several times, last blood test RBC was 4.84 just above the low of 4.40 to 5.90 normal range, several other tests are low also. Have had kidney infections for 10 yrs also, have been on almost constant antibiotics until 9 mos ago started CS, three current urine tests have shown no bacteria growth. One problem eliminated, I hope! Have kidney stones, many X-RAYs were negative, but in 95 got them to run an IVP X-RAY series which showed large stones invisible to the regular X-RAYs. Was to have removed in Jan 97 but canceled at last minute because of anemia. Have pain in feet, ankles, legs upper and lower, knees, and hips, sometimes being unable to walk, sometimes require cane, sometime no symptoms at all. X-RAYs unable to find any problem. The kidney stones that I have are STRUVITE the rarest type and are caused by bacterial action. My calcium levels at least according to the MDs and hospital blood test are normal at 9.5 with the normal range being mg/dl (8.7- 10.1). Is it still possible to have a calcium deficiency when blood tests show normal? Yes! The body will pull calcium from the bones to keep the blood calcium levels normal. If the blood pH gets off too much either way, you die! So the body uses calcium to buffer the pH of the blood. If you have a calcium deficiency the body will pull calcium from the bones to keep the blood pH at a normal level. I still think the kidney stones are made from calcium even if they are caused by bacterial action. First off, I can tell you that you have a . The kidney stones are caused by a calcium deficiency, plus the pain you have in your legs and feet are probably caused by the calcium deficiency as well. When the body chemistry gets off, the body
