Re: CSNow I know why...
Marsha, Have you tried the H202 in the ears...I've suggested to friends and am getting good reports. God Bless You, Jeff K1LE East Lyme CT Dear Jeff, No, I haven`t. I hate putting anything in my ears...shudder... I`m all but well now, except for a sore tummy. Thanks! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:59:14 -0500, Jeffrey A. Madore k...@uconect.net wrote: So does this mean it is ok to melt silver on a stainless steel surface? Someone mentioned pyrex. Would that take the heat without cracking? I tried a glazed ceramic tile and ended up with broken-tile-silver-soup! It's up to you, your experiment! Obviously it can be done, silver melts before SS does. These guys are talking about something else. Speaking about ceramics, get a firebrick from a local brickyard and gouge a depression in it. If you're using oxy-acetelyne I assume you're protecting your face and hands and body with leather, shield and wool. (No sandals). A search on the web for tin-can foundry will come up with interesting stuff, as will the newsgroups rec.crafts.metalworking and alt.crafts.blacksmithing Chuck Red meat isn't bad for you. Fuzzy blue-green meat is bad for you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
Thankyou Marsha and Sparrow for rabbit info, Funny thing, I have been told not to do alfalfa hay because tis grass and timothy hays that rabbits are supposed to eat. Alfalfa is too sweet, high calorie, or rich or something?? But this doesn't make sense because pellets contain alfalfa hay. This rabbit gets finicky and will rarely eat carrots. I am wondering if he has teeth problems and if his inability to chew properly is the reason he is so finicky. I have heard that rabbits can get molar teeth abscesses, and he does have a few bumby areas on the side of his face. My understanding is that teeth problems are supposed to be left alone, except in the case of front teeth that need to be clipped for overgrowth. Sparrow, can you suggest anything for this? Did your family encounter anything like this during the time your children raised rabbits with 4-H? I wonder how one could get colloidal silver into a rabbit's abscessed teeth area...? I am looking for a good rabbit newsgroup, but so far I haven't found one. What I need to do is balance his diet and get his immune system built back up so his own immune system can fight this pasteurella. The baytril enrofloxacin (spelling?) doesn't really seem to be working. I also tried to get him off the bread, (I always make sure it is 100% whole wheat) and he almost starved to death and this is when the pasteurella flared up and almost killed him. When I saw that he was getting sick, that he flat out wasn't going to eat the pellets, and that he would rather starve to death first, I relented and let him have his whole wheat bread back. He gained his weight back, but I know that he is not getting everything he needs with bread, romaine, parsley, apples, and collards. I just got him started on broccoli and he seems to like that, so there's one more food he will eat and another source of nutrition! I appreciate your concerns, this little bunny was raised with an eyedropper and is really like a member of our family. I would really miss him falling asleep on my lap and snoring, and he is only 2 1/2 years old so I am going to put up a good fight for him. Sparrow, this little rabbit is a Holland Lop weighing in at about 4 1/2 pounds. He is probably smaller than New Zealand and Californias . Yours probably weighed in at around 6 or 7 pounds, didn't they? What is horse sweet feed and where might I get some? I should mention that I went to the bulk department of out nearby Fred Meyer store and bought rolled wheat, rye, and oats, so he is getting some grains. I'll check into some cracked corn and I'' try to find some comfrey as well. I haven't had much rabbit experience so I appreciate any and all input and info anyone can share. I am also going to get him on colloidal silver eyedrops and nose spray hopefully real soon. I have decided to try and make my own generator, thanks to encouragement from Brooks, and then I should be on my way and able to report on how the C.S. is doing with this spoiled little finicky rabbit named Benjamin. Thanks again to everyone, Cindy -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:32 PM Subject: Re: CSRabbit intestinal flora and C.S. Hello listers, The problem with this rabbit getting pasteurella in the first place is that the little bugger won't eat pellets. He flat out refuses. I have tried mixing them with banana, applesauce, sprinkling them on his lettuce, as well as trying to syringe feed them to him. All to no avail. So I have kept him on Romaine and collards, wheat breat, rolled oats, a piece of an apple, and shredded wheat cereal. I have started him on vitamins, but still don't now how to get his diet balanced. Does anyone have any rabbit knowledge? I am going to use colloidal silver for the pasteurella (bunny cold) in his eyes, and am thinking about using C.S. as a nasal spray for his nose but am concerned about the C.S. getting to his mouth and from there to his digestive system. His health is kinda fragile right now, so I need to be careful and stick to tried and true remedies. Thankyou for your thoughts. Cindy Dear Cindy, How about feeding alfalfa hay? Mine loved it. I`d get him off the bread because of the yeast. Give him more hard veggies; carrots, jicamas, and the like. They need to chew, so give him something wooden to gnaw on. The do need access to their dung, they rechew it. Yucky to us, but it is a normal rabbit thing to do. Have you checked for a rabbit newsgroup? Marsha
Re: CSMelting Silver and the rebuttal.
Sorry Marshall, the encyclopedia reference you cite is incorrect. I suspect it is an old edition. Gold and silver are NEVER dissolved by mercury. They are amalgamated as the reference says but never dissolved. As an experiment, I suggest you take a given quantity of either gold or silver, powdered. ground, pulverized or in chunks small or large and put it into some mercury. The metal will amalgamate with the mercury (that is, all particles will be coated by the liquid mercury but never penetrated by the mercury) and will always be separable by heat. That is the distillation (boiling off)(I called it flashing off) the reference speaks of. The noble metal (gold or silver) will NEVER reduce in weight or volume. The two metals (mercury is a metal) will always separate from each other by the use of heat. If you boiled them together for a hundred years, they would always be separable. Each would retain its original characteristics. It would no longer be an amalgam. That's the beauty of distillation. It allows us to separate things by using temperature. Sometimes cold: sometimes hot. As to your reference of filling teeth. Once again it is wrong. A silver amalgam is used to fill cavities. The amalgam is a given amount of mercury and a given amount of silver. They are mixed together to form an amalgam; or paste. The amalgam hardens in the mouth. That amalgam is nothing more than silver and mercury combined into a dense silver/mercury lump. If you take a silver filling from a persons mouth and heat it, the mercury will flash off, (distill) leaving the same amount of silver that was used at the start. And the silver will be in exactly the same size particles and shape it was when the amalgam was formed. It was not dissolved, it was amalgamated. The two metals are always separable. And the noble metal will always be the same shape, size and weight it was originally. If that is true, then the silver wasn't dissolved was it? It was surrounded but never penetrated. I chose to believe you believe the quote you used. It is incorrect..if it was an encyclopedia it was badly researched on this specific subject. I don't mean to be argumentative but some research will show the facts. Distillation works, always has, always will. When mercury (a metal) disassociates from noble metals it always leaves the metals in their original shape and size. It's no different than taking the water/sugar example and seeing what happens after distillation. They will separate; always. Trem t...@silvergen.com - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 8:45 PM Subject: Re: CSMelting Silver Check on gold mining. One of the most used techniques for removing gold from ore is to dissolve it in mercury, then boil the mercury off, leaving gold. Mercury can also dissolve silver and in the right proportions, is used to fill teeth. When mercury is mixed with gold or silver it is called an amalgam. See http://ukdb.web.aol.com/hutchinson/encyclopedia/00/M0016400.htm: Amalgamation, the process of forming an amalgam, is a technique sometimes used to extract gold and silver from their ores. The ores are ground to a fine sand and brought into contact with mercury, which dissolves the gold and silver particles. The amalgam is then heated to distil the mercury, leaving a residue of silver and gold. The mercury is recovered and reused. Almagamation to extract gold from its ore has been in use since Roman times. Marshall Trem Williams wrote: Hi Marshall, Hate to be argumentative but gold will NOT dissolve in mercury. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:06 PM Subject: Re: CSMelting Silver Charles King wrote: Silver melts at 1762 degrees F, Stainless Steel at 2500 F. I don't see how any contamination would occur. The same way that gold will dissolve in mercury at room temperature, or sugar in water. Once the silver is liquid other metals can dissolve in it at temperatures far below their melting point. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)
On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:59:14 -0500, Jeffrey A. Madore k...@uconect.net wrote: So does this mean it is ok to melt silver on a stainless steel surface? Someone mentioned pyrex. Would that take the heat without cracking? I tried a glazed ceramic tile and ended up with broken-tile-silver-soup! Sounds like fun Jeffrey, but unless you carry out this operation in an inert atmosphere, in an inert container you will add impurities to the silver. Oxygen and nitrogen from the air, and other elements from the stainless. If you heat the s/steel to red heat it will alter chemically and outgas, and the metal will shrink. The silver may be ok if you file the outside layer off. Perhaps aluminium oxide kiln shelves would be a good choice. I think one can buy aluminium oxide powder which could be mixed with water and formed into the shape you want. It would need to be fired in a kiln and has a shrinkage factor I believe. Anyway I hope this helps. Good luck. Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSTETANUS
From: Marshall Dudley Ivan Anderson wrote: Don't forget to STOP taking CS for a day or two before and after the shot, or it will be wasted and ineffective. wow! important point. true for all biologic inoculations etc. I suppose Only if you believe that CS interferes with the immune response... What evidence is there for this? No, it has nothing to do with interfering with the immune response. The immune system responds to the introduction of infectous material for a vaccination to work. If the CS kills and destroys the infectous material immediately, then there is nothing there to elicit an immune response. The body doesn't see it, it is gone. Gone where, and how? CS kills pathogens by inhibiting the enzyme required for oxygen metabolism, and by binding with the electron rich SH groups of the cell wall and from there binding with the DNA (or is it RNA) disabling the reproduction of the cell. In these cases the cell is not destroyed is it, the cell remains but is deactivated. How can a particle many times smaller than the pathogen destroy it. To be destroyed the pathogen must be subjected to the cleaving and disposal abilities of specialised enzymes (macrophages) which are called into action by other components of the immune system(antigens), which identify, lock on to sites on the pathogen in a fail safe, cascading method. The disabled pathogen may release toxins during this process, and the action of enzymes in the immune system when dealing with large numbers of invaders is generally accompanied by an elevation in temp etc.,hence one feels lousy. But as far as I know it is the immune system which must identify and dispose of any foreign bodies, dead or alive. My sister who works at a hospital was given a flu shot earlier this year with every one of the doctors and nurses. Always before they have made her extremely sick. She forgot to stop taking CS this time and everyone there was surprised that she was the only person who did not feel bad from the shot. The CS took it out before the body even knew it was there. Does that mean the vaccine was ineffective? Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that the vaccine was still there and it was the immune system that eliminated it. Snip No, CS does not disable the organism's ability to reproduce, that is tetracycline and related drugs. CS kills organisms outright. Try putting some under your arms when they are rank, you will notice that the smell goes away in less than 5 seconds. This is outright killing, not stopping division. Is it the bacteria which smell or the waste they produce? CS has been shown to kill organisms in less than 5 seconds in laboratory tests. Tests we did also proved that CS kills the organisms instead of simply stopping them from multiplying. Silver ions disrupt membranes, disables proteins, inhibits enzymes and bonds with DNA. No doubt some organisms are killed outright but surely the inability to reproduce or metabolise is just another form of death. How long does it take for the immune system to deal with such disabled cells? Regards - Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSTyndall?
- Original Message - From: Lee le...@earthlink.net So Chuck or anyone, what is that recipe and time window for the 3 battery system? I am using 12 oz dw plus 2 oz seed for a total of 14oz, silver wires one inch apart and about 3-3 1/2 inches submerged, a stirrer and dmm and stop when I reach 4- 4.5 on the meter measurement of current/per Ole Bob. The time seems to vary with the temperature and which dw I use and for other reasons I can not determine. My run times have gone from 1 and 1/2 hr to 2 and 1/2hrs. Any thoughts or comments? Are you keeping an eye on your voltage? I would suggest you double the gap between your electrodes, you may find more consistency. The condition of your seed CS will also have an effect on the batch. Not only the concentration of the seed, but the particle size etc. To achieve 4 - 4.5 mA implies a high concentration if you have mecanical stirring, but it is hard for me to guage. Perhaps when you finish your next batch, you could shorten your wetted electrode depth to 2 inches and width between them also to 2 inches and report the current and voltage of that arrangement... may be able to be a little more specific then. Ivan. My Tyndall's are getting stronger of late and I don't know why. sparkles are far and few between. Isn't stirring supposed to keep particle size down? Would love comments on all this. Lee Charles King wrote: On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 02:05:03 EST, binsm...@aol.com wrote: My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows tyndall without sparklies. What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it something I can detect without fancy equipment? Nellie Tyndall effect is being able to see a narrow beam of light as it is shone through your solution. Most of us have used the, now inexpensive, laser pointers purchased at novelty stores, flea markets, etc. Don't pay more than $10 for one. Use it on your distilled water before a run, and you will feel a bit more confident about your water (no tyndall). Then try it during and after your run. If you see tyndall, great. If you see it sharply, great. If you see sparkles in the beam, uh, oh. Sparkles mean large particles or clumps. Not desireable, cut back on your run time. None of this is really necessary if you follow the recipe and time window for the 3 battery system. It's just a fun thing to increase confidence in your product. Chuck Every time I find out the meaning of life, they change it -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- *To reply to author please remove Xitout from the address. This is done to prevent SPAM.
CS product
Hi, This is my first week on the list. So far I've learned CS usually isn't effective in wart removal or for flu prevention. smile I found the link --http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm -- to be very informative. Let's hear more positive testimonials! I received my first CS shipment on Friday. The gallon product is clear in color but tastes like what I would guess swamp water tasted like - none metallic but more of a sulfur taste that after drinking, leaves behind a terrible after taste. Do you think this is safe to use? The 4 oz product, purchased from a health food store, that I've been using for the past month is tasteless. Both products are 5 ppm in concentration, but I need to take more of the gallon product to achieve maintenance. I thought the gallon amount would be more cost effective, but I find I need to take a maintenance dose of 1oz / 100 lbs daily. 4oz product x 1cc daily = 120 doses for $16.00 gallon product-128 oz x 1-2 oz daily =60 or 120 doses at $41.95 including shipping I'm assuming most of you are brewing your own product, maybe I'll get there some day! Thanking everyone in advance for your help, Marjorie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
Marjorie wrote: Both products are 5 ppm in concentration, but I need to take more of the gallon product to achieve maintenance. Marshall wrote: The dosages should be the same for the same effect. Cheaper just means that you can use more at less cost for more effectiveness. Marshall, wouldn't a difference in particle size between the two products also affect the results? I assume, Marjorie, that you know the different necessary doses by virtue of some recognisable symptom? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
Trem Williams wrote: Snip A silver amalgam is used to fill cavities. The amalgam is a given amount of mercury and a given amount of silver. They are mixed together to form an amalgam; or paste. The amalgam hardens in the mouth. That amalgam is nothing more than silver and mercury combined into a dense silver/mercury lump. If you take a silver filling from a persons mouth and heat it, the mercury will flash off, (distill) leaving the same amount of silver that was used at the start. And the silver will be in exactly the same size particles and shape it was when the amalgam was formed. It was not dissolved, it was amalgamated. The two metals are always separable. And the noble metal will always be the same shape, size and weight it was originally. If that is true, then the silver wasn't dissolved was it? It was surrounded but never penetrated. Snip This is very interesting. I've had Lyme Disease for about ten years. A few years ago I decided to have all 20 silver amalgam fillings removed and replaced with another material. I did this against the advice of my dentist, doctor, and wallet! (hard headed) At first I noticed no difference, in fact I was even worse. Slowly, however, I started to sleep again. Then I started to dream again...I hadn't slept in years. I would normally drug myself out for a very disturbed sleep at best. Sleeping again was such a blessing! My gums, which were always inflamed in spots and receedeing in those spots became pink and healthy. I also noticed that they didn't bleed any more when I brushed my teeth. Prior to that, they always bled...I thought that was normal for me. Not an overly scientific experiment, as I don't really desire to put the amalgam back in to observe the results...just my observation. I believe the toxin released by the mercury along with that of the Lyme Spirochete was just too much for my system to deal with. Jeff - K1LE (Time is just nature's way to keep everything from happening at once.) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
i thought they stopped using mercury in fillings ears ago due to the toxicity. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)
Thanks Chuck and everyone for the info on melting silver. Yes, I finally broke down and bought myself leathers last year while working under my truck rebuilding the frame. I don't mind setting myself on fire once in a while, but working overhead caused the frequency to be way too high!!! Jeff Charles King wrote: snip If you're using oxy-acetelyne I assume you're protecting your face and hands and body with leather, shield and wool. (No sandals). Chuck -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNow I know why...
Jeff, I wonder if this would help with lyme in anyway. Maybe I should give this a try. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRabbit intestinal flora and C.S.
In a message dated 11/13/1999 9:31:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: They need to chew, so give him something wooden to gnaw on. I can vouch for this, as when mine ran out of chew toys he chose my rug. That is always my number one priority now. lol Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTyndall?
A Mini-Mag or similar flashlight with a tightly focused beam works too. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSTyndall? binsm...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 11/12/1999 9:19:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: My criteria is a clear to golden brew with a metallic taste that shows tyndall without sparklies. What is tyndall (only explain in terms a newbie can understand)? Is it something I can detect without fancy equipment? Nellie The equipment needed is very high tech. Howerver, it is also very cheap. Buy a $15 laser pointer from Best Buy, Walgreens or wherever else you find one and shine the laser through your CS. You should see the beam as it passes through the CS. It can give you the warm fuzzy feeling that you do have a colloid there, even if you really can't tell much about how strong it is. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNow I know why...
Hi Donna, Do you mean H2O2 in the ears? I think it's worth a shot. Even if it only fights off other colds that make the Lyme symptoms more difficult to take. In fact, I'll try it too. Let me know how you make out. The CS seems to be noticeably helping me. Jeff donna2...@aol.com wrote: Jeff, I wonder if this would help with lyme in anyway. Maybe I should give this a try. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTotally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit
It was touted as a Washington Press conference revealing that the 1040 tax is a fraud. You would not have to download it, it was just a benign web page with the information of where and when.It was to happen Saturday the 13th at 10 Eastern. It never happened. I am sending an explanatory mail. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: ing...@aol.com [SMTP:ing...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSTotally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit what was this? could you tell us what it is we are downloading..it would be nice to know this before we download it. thanks inga. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSTyndall?
good heavens, holmes... someone apears to have made off with your apostrophy!! shall i pocket the webley and alert the irregulars?? Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
Nope. Dentists are hard to teach. They still say silver amalgam is OK. Trem t...@silvergen.com - Original Message - From: D G djg5...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc) i thought they stopped using mercury in fillings ears ago due to the toxicity. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
i guess i was lucky and had an enlightened dentist back in the days when i still had organic teeth. he removed all the ones with mercury amalgam and re-filled 'em with something else. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
whisper...@aol.com wrote: Hi, This is my first week on the list. So far I've learned CS usually isn't effective in wart removal or for flu prevention. smile I'm not sure where you got that idea. Except for planer warts everyone seems to have reported it works very well, especially if mixed with aloe vera. And for flu, at least everyone in my family has had 100% success in knocking it out when it first appears with a few ounces of CS. I found the link --http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm -- to be very informative. Let's hear more positive testimonials! I received my first CS shipment on Friday. The gallon product is clear in color but tastes like what I would guess swamp water tasted like - none metallic but more of a sulfur taste that after drinking, leaves behind a terrible after taste. Do you think this is safe to use? Normally there is a metallic taste. I have found that for some odd reason CS will often taste like part of something you ate earlier. For instance, if you had some onions for supper, the CS 4 hours later may have a somewhat onion taste. I have had it taste like toothpaste hours after brushing my teeth. I don't now if this is what you are experiencing or not. Also it is possible that some of the taste from the plastic shipping bottle has gotten into the CS. You may want to pour it into a gallon glass cider bottle which will not do this at all. The 4 oz product, purchased from a health food store, that I've been using for the past month is tasteless. Both products are 5 ppm in concentration, but I need to take more of the gallon product to achieve maintenance. The dosages should be the same. It all depends on what you are wanting to do. You may find that the recommendations for a large inexpensive source is for more than for a small expensive bottle. This is due to taking the cost into account. Itf it is expensive you don't want to waste it taking maintance amounts, but only use it when really needed. If it is cheap then if you take maintnance dosages you will end up using more, but also avoid some early onset of things. I thought the gallon amount would be more cost effective, but I find I need to take a maintenance dose of 1oz / 100 lbs daily. 4oz product x 1cc daily = 120 doses for $16.00 gallon product-128 oz x 1-2 oz daily =60 or 120 doses at $41.95 including shipping The dosages should be the same for the same effect. Cheaper just means that you can use more at less cost for more effectiveness. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
I have a friend who is a dentist. He claims that amalgam fillings are horrible and cause terrible problems. He said though that if a dentist says that they are toxic to a patient, or removes them for any reason other than cosmetic, they will get their license revoked. The ADA is scared that if they admit the truth then they will be liable for millions in lawsuits, so they continue poisoning people to cover it up. Marshall Trem Williams wrote: Nope. Dentists are hard to teach. They still say silver amalgam is OK. Trem t...@silvergen.com - Original Message - From: D G djg5...@webtv.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc) i thought they stopped using mercury in fillings ears ago due to the toxicity. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
I think she got the idea from Marsha.Marsha made some CS with dead batteries, (grin) and ended up dosing her flu with distilled water instead of CS. Would you call that a double blind test? ;~) Okay, behave yourselves youse guys! Marsha made an honest mistake and she paid for it! Enough with the ribbing already... Pass the barbecue sauce! GRI Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSUnidentified subject!
My CRC handbook lists KCN, potassium cyanide as also dissolving gold. That is a new one on me. But to say that is all that gold will dissolve in is not quite accurate, this is only accurate at certain temperatures. Gold, copper and silver dissolve in each other once the temperature is high enough for one of them to melt. That is how alloys of these metals are formed. Almost always the alloy has a melting point lower than any of the components. But in terms of aquous solutions that gold dissolves in, then it is pretty well just aqua regia and KCN. I am still trying to figure this amalgam thing out. Marshall Sam Earle wrote: Gold may readily combine with mercury, as does silver, but the only substance known to Man that will dissolve gold is aqua regia. Sam i think that it does. that's why miners use mercry to seperate gold from sand and crushed ore. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver
Sorry Dennis. Got to rescind offer. Found out mighty Marsha was taking DW which she thot was CS because of low battery. In a message dated 11/13/1999 1:27:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, djg5...@webtv.net writes: Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 07:51:33 EST, whisper...@aol.com wrote: Hi, This is my first week on the list. So far I've learned CS usually isn't effective in wart removal or for flu prevention. smile I don't think that's quite true. The dummy was using plain water and didn't know it I found the link --http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm -- to be very informative. Let's hear more positive testimonials! Just looked at it. Real nice introduction to CS! I received my first CS shipment on Friday. The gallon product is clear in color but tastes like what I would guess swamp water tasted like - none metallic but more of a sulfur taste that after drinking, leaves behind a terrible after taste. Do you think this is safe to use? Sounds like it would build character, a criteria for good for you. What brand/company? The 4 oz product, purchased from a health food store, that I've been using for the past month is tasteless. Both products are 5 ppm in concentration, but I need to take more of the gallon product to achieve maintenance. If I were you. I'd start small dose and build up to effective. You should hear some of the listers with Lyme or candida talk about their Herx reactions. Some of it sounds scary. I thought the gallon amount would be more cost effective, but I find I need to take a maintenance dose of 1oz / 100 lbs daily. 4oz product x 1cc daily = 120 doses for $16.00 gallon product-128 oz x 1-2 oz daily =60 or 120 doses at $41.95 including shipping I'm assuming most of you are brewing your own product, maybe I'll get there some day! You just figured out why! At only pennies (OK, a dollar) per gallon, you can spray it around for dust mites, plant diseases, cutting board, showercurtain mold, mouthwash etc. Thanking everyone in advance for your help, Marjorie Welcome Marjorie Chuck Humor is emotional chaos recollected in tranquility -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 06:55:58 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote: i thought they stopped using mercury in fillings ears ago due to the toxicity. Dennis Well yeah, for ears!!! Chuck VCR's exist to do our tv watching for us -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver
In a message dated 11/13/1999 2:42:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, a...@trail.com writes: Hi James Marsha is one of the greatest advocates of CS. Takes maintainance doses, haven't had colds for years and then comes down with a knockout flu. Makes you wonder about the placebo effect. Anyhow, all is resolved after reading her post and I have rescinded my offer of used silver wires, which I got from Marsha, Hello Wong, Can you tell us why you do not want to use silver now? Thank you, James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMelting Silver
In a message dated 11/13/1999 12:56:35 Eastern Standard Time, t...@silvergen.com writes: Hi Marshall, Hate to be argumentative but gold will NOT dissolve in mercury. Trem you are correct. Gold is absorbed into and held by mercury - not dissolved. Nitric acid is then used to reclaim the gold. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSMelting Silver
is there a functional difference? i mean, salt is absorbd into and held by water, and then heat is used to reclaim the salt. why does it matter as far as cs is concerned? i got here too late for the start of this particular conversation. Dennis 51/50 24/7 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSTotally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit
Yeah, I saw this. Disappointed. Even chased down the c-span2 link in the article. Nothing there... joe... James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: It was touted as a Washington Press conference revealing that the 1040 tax is a fraud. You would not have to download it, it was just a benign web page with the information of where and when.It was to happen Saturday the 13th at 10 Eastern. It never happened. I am sending an explanatory mail. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: ing...@aol.com [SMTP:ing...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 9:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSTotally off topic see: http://sightings.com/polit what was this? could you tell us what it is we are downloading..it would be nice to know this before we download it. thanks inga. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
I think she got the idea from Marsha.Marsha made some CS with dead batteries, (grin) and ended up dosing her flu with distilled water instead of CS. Would you call that a double blind test?;~) Sparrow This is my first week on the list. So far I've learned CS usually isn't effective in wart removal or for flu prevention. smile I'm not sure where you got that idea. Except for planer warts everyone seems to have reported it works very well, especially if mixed with aloe vera. And for flu, at least everyone in my family has had 100% success in knocking it out when it first appears with a few ounces of CS. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings (was Melting Silver etc)
hfreeman wrote: snip My dentist, who is also a good friend, is very much a believer in removing silver/mercury fillings. Mine were all replaced 15 years ago. Guess what...he is now in the midst of a long and costly court battle to have his license removed! There is a heavy price to be paid for doing what you believe in, if that doesn't happen to coincide with the ADA! snip The same is true with Lyme Disease. The doctors that treat it end up with their head on the chopping block...they either lose their license or have their practice limited. There are approximately 2 doctors that will treat Lyme in CT. Lyme literate MD's usually take no insurance either. And the great Lyme Vaccine is deadly. I know many people that are chronically ill from the vaccine. When they report this to their Dr. the response is usually something like, the vaccine just couldn't do that or it's all in your head, here take some of these. Thus, adverse reactions don't get reported and the Dr goes on to make big bucks, by making no waves...and the vaccine appears effective. Everyone is happy but the patient. The patient's life is ruined and he's told that he is nuts! Sorry to go off topic...I'm just frustrated by the corruption that appears everywhere I look these days. I feel better now. Jeff - K1LE -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSsilver
Wong explained his decision: Marsha is one of the greatest advocates of CS. Takes maintainance doses, haven't had colds for years and then comes down with a knockout flu. Makes you wonder about the placebo effect. Anyhow, all is resolved after reading her post and I have rescinded my offer of used silver wires, which I got from Marsha, Hi Wong and All, Personally, I prefer the Honesty with which the list members approach various subjects. What good would it to us readers/lurkers if there were cover ups. We have that already. AMA/ADA, don't need it here. Glad you reconsidered. H.B. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSAmalgam fillings O.T. (was silver...)
Marshall wrote: I have a friend who is a dentist. He claims that amalgam fillings are horrible and cause terrible problems. He said though that if a dentist says that they are toxic to a patient, or removes them for any reason other than cosmetic, they will get their license revoked. The ADA is scared that if they admit the truth then they will be liable for millions in lawsuits, so they continue poisoning people to cover it up. Three cheers for your friend. In 1972 after childbirth, I needed lots of dental work in California. I choose the dentist who did all the work for $ 350.-- over the dental group who wanted $ 1100,-- for the same work (detailed written estimate from both). The deciding factor was my reasoning: I'm going to get by both, I might as well go with the one that does it cheaper. I was scheduled for root canal in 1974. This prompted me to do some research. One book stopped me cold: The Tooth Trip: An Oral Experience McGuire, Thomas, D.D.S. He explained how their oath on ethics PREVENTS/FORBIDS them to talk negative about another dentist's work (in general) and that of course comes from the ADA. I came away reading that book feeling that ' one dentist only fixes the work of another' and that it is a vicious cycle. Also he made it clear that most dentists do not clean out cavities properly and therefore a cavity starts anew and works its way out from and around the fixed portion. And of course your dentist tries to tell you, hey man, it's your fault. From that day on, whenever I saw a dentist/doctor, he/she was MY client. I paid for it and I demanded to KNOW. I made the decisions and they did it my way or not at all. Greetings, H.B. T __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS650 uses for CS (was Unidentified)
I believe the 650 is the number of pathogens that CS was recognized as killing when the FDA was formed. The number is much higher now, but to make claims that it kills something that was not in the original list, such as HIV or Lyme, is illegal, so everyone quotes the 650 that won't get them thrown into prison. Hi All, The other day while doing research on the net I ran into a pretty good article that questioned the number 650, at least to the extent that as he saw it, nowhere has he seen the 650 listed, so far. I personally, like the list given by Dr. Robert (Bob) C. Beck, which is pretty large and of course lists a lot of non-medical applications. (part of Beck Papers) H.B. __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNow I know why...
In a message dated 11/14/1999 11:11:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, k...@uconect.net writes: Do you mean H2O2 in the ears? I think it's worth a shot. Even if it only fights off other colds that make the Lyme symptoms more difficult to take. In fact, I'll try it too. Let me know how you make out. The CS seems to be noticeably helping me. Jeff Jeff, Ok I will start tonight. We can compare notes. Thanks, Donna P.S. I will let it soak in each ear until the bubbling stops. I will also keep track of the time length. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
In a message dated 11/14/1999 2:59:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, ck...@global2000.net writes: Hi, This is my first week on the list. So far I've learned CS usually isn't effective in wart removal or for flu prevention. smile I don't think that's quite true. The dummy was using plain water and didn't know it Hey Chuck, Marsha is no dummy, maybe the wording should be that it was a simple mistake. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product--yellow color
Ok Mike, but one more thought. Perhaps it would be wise for us to make sure we get to the yellow color when producing CS (LVDC only) and keep it in a clear container. That way, a person can see if the stuff is any good. Trem - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:43 AM Subject: Re: CS product I think she got the idea from Marsha.Marsha made some CS with dead batteries, (grin) and ended up dosing her flu with distilled water instead of CS. Would you call that a double blind test? ;~) Okay, behave yourselves youse guys! Marsha made an honest mistake and she paid for it! Enough with the ribbing already... Pass the barbecue sauce! GRI Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 19:20:21 EST, donna2...@aol.com wrote: Hey Chuck, Marsha is no dummy, maybe the wording should be that it was a simple mistake. Donna Marsha?, Marsha? Did anyone say Marsha? Chuck Bite off one chicken head and they never let you forget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
Hey Chuck, Marsha is no dummy, maybe the wording should be that it was a simple mistake. Donna Marsha?, Marsha? Did anyone say Marsha? Chuck Bite off one chicken head and they never let you forget This chicken says: Chuck you, Farley... Marsha :o) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product--yellow color
Ok Mike, but one more thought. Perhaps it would be wise for us to make sure we get to the yellow color when producing CS (LVDC only) and keep it in a clear container. That way, a person can see if the stuff is any good. Trem Dear Trem, Exactly!! I use a dark blue bottle, and my generator still has a lightbulb on it. It was still going on, so I thought it was working well enough. NOT!! I think I`ll go to a clear bottle and no lightbulb... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS product
On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:33:30 -0800, Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net wrote: This chicken says: Chuck you, Farley... Marsha :o) H, Marsha, That time again, already, huh? Duck cover! Chuck Everything in the universe is packaging, big toys, or meat -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSTETANUS
Ivan Anderson wrote: CS kills pathogens by inhibiting the enzyme required for oxygen metabolism, and by binding with the electron rich SH groups of the cell wall and from there binding with the DNA (or is it RNA) disabling the reproduction of the cell. That is what the Silver Institute reports. However there is more to it than that. If this were the only way that it kills pathogens then it would not have any effect for anaerobic bacteria which do not metabolise oxygen. There is more to it than that. It is apparent that it kills by more mechanisms than just that one, but I have yet to have heard anything that sounds reasonable for the other mechanisms except for the catalytic oxidation of anerobic pathogens. I have no idea if it stops reproduction of the cell, since in every experiment we have done and had done, it kills the cell outright, immediately. One thing that it does it it causes oxidation of the pathogen, and when you oxidize proteins and amino acids, which is what elicits an immune response, they break down into water, carbon dixoide and so forth which do not elicit an immune response. In these cases the cell is not destroyed is it, the cell remains but is deactivated. When a cell is oxidized then it is broken down into water, carbon dioxide and so forth. How can a particle many times smaller than the pathogen destroy it. Well lets see. If I light a match it will be destroyed by oxygen which is MUCH smaller than the match. Same thing goes for bacteria, when they are oxidized they are destroyed. Silver catalyzes the oxidation of the pathogen, it breaks down into smaller molecules which are more stable. To be destroyed the pathogen must be subjected to the cleaving and disposal abilities of specialised enzymes (macrophages) which are called into action by other components of the immune system(antigens), which identify, lock on to sites on the pathogen in a fail safe, cascading method. Not true. Cooking destroys pathogens. That is why canning works. Alcohol, most petrochemicals, heat, freezing sometimes, even dehydration can all kill various pathogens. Oxidation definitely kills pathogens, that is why hydrogen peroxide works, and that is how silver works. The disabled pathogen may release toxins during this process, and the action of enzymes in the immune system when dealing with large numbers of invaders is generally accompanied by an elevation in temp etc.,hence one feels lousy. But as far as I know it is the immune system which must identify and dispose of any foreign bodies, dead or alive. The immune system destroys pathogens, usually by identifying markers on the protein coat. The kidneys and liver must dispose of these bodies and/or toxins. If it is too much for these organs to take care of, then you will sweat out much of it. Does that mean the vaccine was ineffective? Maybe I'm wrong, but I do believe that the vaccine was still there and it was the immune system that eliminated it. It is a pretty good indication that there was no immune response. She always gets very ill from flu shots normally. Is it the bacteria which smell or the waste they produce? It is the waste. Thus as soon as you kill them, the quit producing waste, the odor goes away. CS has been shown to kill organisms in less than 5 seconds in laboratory tests. Tests we did also proved that CS kills the organisms instead of simply stopping them from multiplying. Silver ions disrupt membranes, disables proteins, inhibits enzymes and bonds with DNA. No doubt some organisms are killed outright but surely the inability to reproduce or metabolise is just another form of death. How long does it take for the immune system to deal with such disabled cells? That is why CS is so nice. It kills them outright in a matter of minutes, whereas many antibiotics only prevent them from dividing, which may require days to take care of them. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSMercury and Gold (was Melting Silver)
Hi Guys, This may be unfounded concern, but is it possible for stuff---like Nickel, to migrate from the surface into the silver in enough quantity to be toxic if it is used internally? Or contribute to our total Nickel load. Whatever that is. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: Charles King [SMTP:ck...@global2000.net] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSMercury and Gold (was Melting Silver) On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 17:59:14 -0500, Jeffrey A. Madore k...@uconect.net wrote: So does this mean it is ok to melt silver on a stainless steel surface? Someone mentioned pyrex. Would that take the heat without cracking? I tried a glazed ceramic tile and ended up with broken-tile-silver-soup! It's up to you, your experiment! Obviously it can be done, silver melts before SS does. These guys are talking about something else. Speaking about ceramics, get a firebrick from a local brickyard and gouge a depression in it. If you're using oxy-acetelyne I assume you're protecting your face and hands and body with leather, shield and wool. (No sandals). A search on the web for tin-can foundry will come up with interesting stuff, as will the newsgroups rec.crafts.metalworking and alt.crafts.blacksmithing Chuck Red meat isn't bad for you. Fuzzy blue-green meat is bad for you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
