CSTo Sylvie, re ears

2002-05-15 Thread nk
 Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol for
 sterilizing.  
 Every couple of hours would probably suffice.
 Nk
 
 You wrote:
 On another note,
 I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
 cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how
 soon do you think it would take to clear?
 
 Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
 Sylvie
 



RE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
To Sylvie, re earsKeep away from the rubbing alcohol.

John
  -Original Message-
  From: nk [mailto:n...@shaw.ca]
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol for
sterilizing.
Every couple of hours would probably suffice.
Nk

You wrote:
On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been
applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and
how
soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie




Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread M. G. Devour
 Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
 body?
 
 The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
 is the actual critter killer. 

Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin 
disorders?

Mike D.

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[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread LINDAELLIS
In a message dated 5/14/02 10:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, j...@natel.net 
writes:


 Just FYI, the www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com site is a distributer for
 coconut-info.com's coconut oil. I order from Wilderness Family Naturals
 because they take credit cards. 
 
 It's very nice stuff. I buy it by the 5 lb bucket.
 

Coconut oil is new to me.  Could we have a dialog about the uses that would 
make it practical to buy in 5-gal buckets?  That seems like a LOT of stuff!

Linda


Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John A. Stanley
In article oe52a0hkwnjwzy2jrco7...@hotmail.com,
Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
body?

The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which is
the actual critter killer. 

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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John A. Stanley
In article eheeiadbdejhokgffcedmenacdaa.jree...@sbcglobal.net,
John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
To return to the original question, how is cs and VCO administered at
the same time? For instance, if I have a skin infection, do I put cs,
VCO, or both on it?

The VCO needs to be eaten, as it has no antimicrobial action until it is
converted in the digestive tract to monolaurin.

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CSRE;SEA SILVER

2002-05-15 Thread Tel Tofflemire
New hype on a MLM game for peddling a silver product with a long list of
 trace minerals and vitamins,  alo vera and sea weed ? Its called a new
  patented Colloidal Silver with all this stuff in it that they say it
  does not fall out? Retail $39.00 qt
  Can anyone comment on this?
   http://www.seasilver.com/
 Tel Tofflemire
   Phoenix, AZ




Re: CSPotassium iodide

2002-05-15 Thread Tel Tofflemire
NK...Quite easy to find in Google, must be a dozon sources at least.
Here is just the 1st one.http://www.ki4u.com/
Tel Toffleminre
Dewey, AZ (forgot I movet to the mts.)

nk wrote:


 Does anyone know where a person could purchase the potassium iodide
 pills


Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread CKing001
DMSO has unique properties in that things mixed in it will carry through the
skin to the bone/bloodstream almost immediately.

VCO's claim to fame is that it bypasses the liver because of it's medium chain
triglycerides and is metabolized quickly for energy instead of storing for body
fat.
I don't see why they should be used together.
It's just another bullet in the bandoleer.

Chuck
When everything's coming your way, you're
in the wrong lane.


On Tue, 14 May 2002 21:12:55 -0700, John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

To return to the original question, how is cs and VCO administered at
the same time? For instance, if I have a skin infection, do I put cs,
VCO, or both on it? I have been putting cs on such a case and then
following up with VCO. ??? Some have discussed cs and DMSO working
in conjunction, so I was wondering about cs and VCO in a similar
manner.

John


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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread CKing001
Over on the vco list the're touting it as a skin conditioner (softening,
soothing etc).
I use it as a dandruff control. Rub it in about 5 minutes before a regular
shampoo.
Chuck

Home is where you hang your @

On Wed, 15 May 2002 09:37:39 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote:

Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin 
disorders?

Mike D.


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RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
Good question Mike, I was wondering the same thing after the post from John
Stanley. I understood that there was a benefit from topical application of
VCO. The VCO pages that I see on the web state that there are many benefits
besides just eating the stuff. I have tried VCO topically, seemingly, with
positive results. ??? My wife gets a lot of VCO email from a list similar to
this one for cs at:


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Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO



 Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the

 body?



 The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which

 is the actual critter killer.

Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin

disorders?

Mike D.

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Re: CSRE;SEA SILVER

2002-05-15 Thread Arnold Beland
And it tastes great too!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tel Tofflemire 
  To: Silver list 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:19 AM
  Subject: CSRE;SEA SILVER


  New hype on a MLM game for peddling a silver product with a long list of 
trace minerals and vitamins,  alo vera and sea weed ? Its called a new 
patented Colloidal Silver with all this stuff in it that they say it does not 
fall out? Retail $39.00 qt 
  Can anyone comment on this? 
  http://www.seasilver.com/ 
  Tel Tofflemire 
  Phoenix, AZ




Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John A. Stanley
In article 13f.e639205.2a139...@aol.com, lindael...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 5/14/02 10:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, j...@natel.net 
writes:


 Just FYI, the www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com site is a distributer for
 coconut-info.com's coconut oil. I order from Wilderness Family Naturals
 because they take credit cards. 
 
 It's very nice stuff. I buy it by the 5 lb bucket.
 

Coconut oil is new to me.  Could we have a dialog about the uses that would 
make it practical to buy in 5-gal buckets?  That seems like a LOT of stuff!

Please note that Heather King said she buys it by the five pound bucket,
not 5 gallon. I bought the one gallon bucket for $50, shipping included.
I think handcrafted organic vegetable oil all the way from the Philipines
for $12.50 per quart is very reasonable.

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RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
Some folks claim that VCO kills microbes in a manner similar to cs. ???
Great to have more bullets in the bandoleer. Hit the enemy from all angles.

John

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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


DMSO has unique properties in that things mixed in it will carry through the
skin to the bone/bloodstream almost immediately.

VCO's claim to fame is that it bypasses the liver because of it's medium
chain
triglycerides and is metabolized quickly for energy instead of storing for
body
fat.
I don't see why they should be used together.
It's just another bullet in the bandoleer.

Chuck
When everything's coming your way, you're
in the wrong lane.


On Tue, 14 May 2002 21:12:55 -0700, John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:

To return to the original question, how is cs and VCO administered at
the same time? For instance, if I have a skin infection, do I put cs,
VCO, or both on it? I have been putting cs on such a case and then
following up with VCO. ??? Some have discussed cs and DMSO working
in conjunction, so I was wondering about cs and VCO in a similar
manner.

John


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RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
Good question Mike, I was wondering the same thing after the post from
John Stanley. I understood that there was a benefit from topical
application of VCO. The VCO pages that I see on the web state that there
are many benefits besides just eating the stuff. I have tried VCO
topically, seemingly, with positive results. ??? My wife gets a lot of
VCO email from a list similar to this one for cs at:

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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 2:38 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


 Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
 body?

 The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
 is the actual critter killer.

Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin
disorders?

Mike D.

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Re: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
  The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM.
 Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up to
1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled current.
 The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his photospectrometer.
At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say his
equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic and
some of the particulate?  I dunno.
 NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic and
colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but
they wanted huge samples. [I have the report]
 The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna PPM
meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according to
'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator
circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver either.
 Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle
formation.
 Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle
formation.

BTW, Jack
 The gen you sent back is working perfectly.  I made a 16 oz batch in 3
hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this
morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable so
far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes]
 I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out at
27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right.
Ken


At 01:48 PM 5/14/02 -0700, you wrote:
5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

 Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
 Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow monitoring
 of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack 


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CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears

2002-05-15 Thread Maxine Wilton
 If your ear rings are not of Stainless steel  posts and backs or  silver 
then coat them several times with  the hardening kind of clear nail polish and 
let dry  i day between each application  and wait about 3 days before wearing 
them. If they still bother, re coat them and if still do throw them out.
Don't wear Yellow gold or othe metals. 
 You can also  take  a needle and thread  dental floss dipped into hydrogen 
peroxide and thread through the hole. leav long enough sa as to be able to pull 
and resaturate with peroxide several times a day and use C S after the peroxide 
. Wait about ten mintes before the CS
or any other healing item on dental floss. Change dental floss daily. and leave 
in untill completely healed so doesn't heal shut.
 If at any time you catch an ear ring and it pulls and maked your ear bleed, 
remove earrings imeadiatly, saturate and clean with peroxide then put healing 
med on, C S or other untill completely well again.
 If the metal even on wire earings is not a pure silver  or stainless stell 
of good quality, you can get infection even with out a tearing  or  whatever. 
Also always remove them when going to bed.
Maxine
-Original Message-
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Keep away from the rubbing alcohol.
 
John
-Original Message-
From: nk [mailto:n...@shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol for 
sterilizing.  
Every couple of hours would probably suffice.
Nk

You wrote:
On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been 
applying 
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs 
and how 
soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie




RE: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread Ode Coyote
  That would be Ole Bob , the person?
 Agreed
Actually, I don't think anyone CAN operate Ole Bob Berger..except him.

I like him a lot.
ken

At 05:10 PM 5/14/02 -0600, you wrote:
My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate,...

That has not been my experience; he is actually pretty complicated.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
From:  sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent:  Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:00 PM
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:   Re: CScs color

Hi Jack,
I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point
has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is
pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles
of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight yellow
color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink in
the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. We
do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec
mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have
life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't
used it yet.


On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how
soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700

5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

  Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
  Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow
monitoring
  of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack


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Re: CSRE;SEA SILVER

2002-05-15 Thread Neilinthegarden
In a message dated 5/15/2002 9:16:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
abel...@tampabay.rr.com writes:


 And it tastes great too!
 

I certainly wouldn't call the taste great, but tolerable.
Neil


Re: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft

Hello Maxine,
why should I keep away from yellow gold??
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:37:27 -0700

 If your ear rings are not of Stainless steel  posts and backs or  
silver then coat them several times with  the hardening kind of clear nail 
polish and let dry  i day between each application  and wait about 3 days 
before wearing them. If they still bother, re coat them and if still do 
throw them out.

Don't wear Yellow gold or othe metals.
 You can also  take  a needle and thread  dental floss dipped into hydrogen 
peroxide and thread through the hole. leav long enough sa as to be able to 
pull and resaturate with peroxide several times a day and use C S after the 
peroxide . Wait about ten mintes before the CS
or any other healing item on dental floss. Change dental floss daily. and 
leave in untill completely healed so doesn't heal shut.
 If at any time you catch an ear ring and it pulls and maked your ear 
bleed, remove earrings imeadiatly, saturate and clean with peroxide then put 
healing med on, C S or other untill completely well again.
 If the metal even on wire earings is not a pure silver  or stainless 
stell of good quality, you can get infection even with out a tearing  or  
whatever. Also always remove them when going to bed.

Maxine
-Original Message-
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:50 PM
Subject: RE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Keep away from the rubbing alcohol.

John
-Original Message-
From: nk [mailto:n...@shaw.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol 
for sterilizing.

Every couple of hours would probably suffice.
Nk

You wrote:
On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have 
been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply 
the cs and how

soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie






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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread FHLew
   Mike D wrote:

   Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for
skin
 disorders? 

Yes, I have on several ocassions prescribed  ozonated
Coconut Oil for my patients [ Geriatric,Adult and Paediatric ] with
dermatological problems. They responded satisfactorily. There was a case of
painful scalded
hand of a young girl. Immersion of the scalded hand in coconut oil bubbling
with ozone relieved the severe pain within minutes. Wet dressing of the
scalded areas with Colloidal Silver [5 to 10 ppm] expedites epithelization
of the scalded tissue. I have the presence of mind to videotape this
out-patient  case for clinical presentation.

  Coconut Oil, like the mother's milk, is rich in lauric
acid, which is converted in the body to the fatty acid, monolaurin, which is
anti-viral. The
presence of monolaurin may ward off  infectious viruses that cause Measles,
Herpes, Cytomegalovirus,Vesicular stomatitis and possibly the AIDS virus.

With regards
Lew




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From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


  Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
  body?
 
  The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
  is the actual critter killer.

 Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin
 disorders?

 Mike D.

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Re: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft

Thanks Ken,
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:46:45 -0400

  If the water is very warm and the room cold, it might be that the drop in
saturation point as the water cools off after the run could kick post
process particle formation into high gear and make the CS go yellowish.
 The advantage to using warm water with the Ole Bob Gen is increased
initial conductivity of the water that helps things get started faster.
The downside being that if the water has not cooled to near room temp
during process and the room is very cool as is likely in Canada,
uncontrolled post process agglomeration could take place.
 You got 'pink' CS [a few very large particles in an otherwise small
particle clear CS water] when you placed the batch in the fridge. I suggest
a very large run/storage temperature differential? I have had this happen
only in winter when heating with the wood stove. ..Warm water in a very
warm room, then the room temp drops drastically over night.
Ken


At 10:59 PM 5/14/02 +, you wrote:
Hi Jack,
I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point
has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is
pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles
of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight 
yellow
color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink 
in
the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. 
We

do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec
mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have
life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't
used it yet.


On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and 
how

soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700

5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

  Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
  Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow
monitoring
  of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack


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Re: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears

2002-05-15 Thread Maxine Wilton
 Sylvie,
The acid in your body often makes it  make green apear on your skin. A gold
ring will on many people, me incl.,   on your finger turn green. You won't
be able to see it in the hole in your ear.  If you coat it good with  the
hardening kind of nail polish as I recomened it shouldn't turn Gold green
next to your skin.
 I don't wear anything with Yellow Gold.  The white Gold won't do this as
some jewelry is made of.

Maxine

-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


Hello Maxine,
why should I keep away from yellow gold??
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSSYLVIE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 08:37:27 -0700

  If your ear rings are not of Stainless steel  posts and backs or 
silver then coat them several times with  the hardening kind of clear nail
polish and let dry  i day between each application  and wait about 3 days
before wearing them. If they still bother, re coat them and if still do
throw them out.
Don't wear Yellow gold or othe metals.
  You can also  take  a needle and thread  dental floss dipped into
hydrogen
peroxide and thread through the hole. leav long enough sa as to be able to
pull and resaturate with peroxide several times a day and use C S after the
peroxide . Wait about ten mintes before the CS
or any other healing item on dental floss. Change dental floss daily. and
leave in untill completely healed so doesn't heal shut.
  If at any time you catch an ear ring and it pulls and maked your ear
bleed, remove earrings imeadiatly, saturate and clean with peroxide then
put
healing med on, C S or other untill completely well again.
  If the metal even on wire earings is not a pure silver  or stainless

stell of good quality, you can get infection even with out a tearing  or
whatever. Also always remove them when going to bed.
Maxine
-Original Message-
 From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:50 PM
 Subject: RE: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


 Keep away from the rubbing alcohol.

 John
 -Original Message-
 From: nk [mailto:n...@shaw.ca]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 11:10 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSTo Sylvie, re ears


 Use it as often as you would hydrogen peroxide or Rubbing Alcohol
for sterilizing.
 Every couple of hours would probably suffice.
 Nk

 You wrote:
 On another note,
 I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have
been applying
 cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply
the cs and how
 soon do you think it would take to clear?

 Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
 Sylvie






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CSTime to move a thread or two?

2002-05-15 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi all,

Now that we're getting back towards 40 messages per day on the list, 
it's perhaps time to think of taking the OT threads over to the new 
off-topic list?

I'm thinking of our discussion of coconut oil, and maybe zappers.

What I'm aiming for in the list rules is the following:

Anybody can talk about CS related stuff all they want, until it's 
obvious the topic is exhausted. Anybody can *ask* any health related 
question they want and people can answer...

HOWEVER, non-CS related topics ought to migrate or end as soon as the
basics are covered so people know where to go for follow up and have
their basic curiosity satisfied.

Besides that, there's a small permissable level of chit-chat and other
'noise' that's needed to keep things friendly -- provided it's not
abused. More than that ought to be handled on the OT list.

I'd like it to be as easy as possible to switch threads over and for 
people to follow them. All that needs to happen is somebody puts...

 silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com 

... in the cc: or Reply to: fields of their message, and the thread 
starts up over there. Mention what you're doing, and hopefully others 
will follow.

You don't have to get messages in your mailbox from the OT list in 
order to follow the thread and even add to it. You can read the OT list 
at our e-Scribe archives at:

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If you're a member of the silver list, then the off topic list should 
accept your postings and replies automatically.

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off topic list, you can do that too.

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RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft
O.k I have refrained from asking this but it is really getting to me to 
not know... WHAT IS A ZAPPER???

Sylvie:-))


Original Message Follows
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:33:18 -0700

I am new to this forum, but, in my experience, cs keeps me healthy on a
continuing basis. If I came under massive attack I would resort to the
zapper first and antibiotics last meanwhile keeping the cs in the system. I
suspect that some critters need to be attacked from more than one angle. cs
in the bloodsteam has a hard time getting to the skin although when rubbed
on an infected area seems to help, if not irradicate, the infection. The
zapper works the best and quickest on skin ailments and, if I was calling
this warfare, the zapper is the heavy artillery and the cs is the
hand-to-hand combat element. The new element in my arsenal is VCO and I am
not fully aware of how to use that method of treatment. Also, right now, I
am investigating the LED method of combat. The war goes on and on. One of my
college students came down with a lung infection (he is a close friend also)
and I have him taking cs without very noticeable results. Today I put him on
the zapper and saw very noticeable results in his appearance, but the cs
continues for him.

John
  -Original Message-
  From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 9:46 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Mariano,
   How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S??
   Did they take anyhting else with it etc?  I been on it about 2months now
and drinking abt   14 oz aday now.  I still have the p[ain and the virus.
What am I if I am, doing wrong?
  Maxine
-Original Message-
From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and
the CS orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.
How about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?
  - Original Message -
  From: Maxine Wilton
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Hello Gary,
   Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??
My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.
   I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.
   What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?
   I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning 
it

some ,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding
oneself of the unstopable Virus I beleive.
   I am also on CS  and won't give up yet.
  Maxine
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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread Maxine Wilton
Do you know if the Coconut oil has KILLIED the Zoster Virus   after  a
person has suffered thepain for 17 months of Shingles etc?

If so how would a person take and or use it or both??
Maxine stioill after 17 month suffer the terrible pain.
I am taking CS abt 14 + oz  a day, and now have some herbs and trying
Turkish Oregono in capsule form plus  some tea with a number of herbal pain
killers.  All just lessons some.
Maxine.
mm...@sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: FHLew klini...@tm.net.my
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


   Mike D wrote:

   Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for
skin
 disorders? 

Yes, I have on several ocassions prescribed  ozonated
Coconut Oil for my patients [ Geriatric,Adult and Paediatric ] with
dermatological problems. They responded satisfactorily. There was a case of
painful scalded
hand of a young girl. Immersion of the scalded hand in coconut oil bubbling
with ozone relieved the severe pain within minutes. Wet dressing of the
scalded areas with Colloidal Silver [5 to 10 ppm] expedites epithelization
of the scalded tissue. I have the presence of mind to videotape this
out-patient  case for clinical presentation.

  Coconut Oil, like the mother's milk, is rich in lauric
acid, which is converted in the body to the fatty acid, monolaurin, which is
anti-viral. The
presence of monolaurin may ward off  infectious viruses that cause Measles,
Herpes, Cytomegalovirus,Vesicular stomatitis and possibly the AIDS virus.

With regards
Lew




- Original Message -
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


  Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
  body?
 
  The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
  is the actual critter killer.

 Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin
 disorders?

 Mike D.

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RE: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread Seppo Paananen
Here you can find many answers.

www.carnoimpex.fi

Katrin

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color

  The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM.
 Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up
to
1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled
current.
 The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his
photospectrometer.
At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say
his
equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic
and
some of the particulate?  I dunno.
 NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic
and
colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but
they wanted huge samples. [I have the report]
 The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna
PPM
meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according
to
'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator
circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver
either.
 Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle
formation.
 Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle
formation.

BTW, Jack
 The gen you sent back is working perfectly.  I made a 16 oz batch in 3
hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this
morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable
so
far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes]
 I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out
at
27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right.
Ken


At 01:48 PM 5/14/02 -0700, you wrote:
5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

 Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
 Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow
monitoring
 of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If
you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My
first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states
as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack 


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RE: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft

Hi,hi,hi... I'm talking about the generator...
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CScs color
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:50:53 -0400

  That would be Ole Bob , the person?
 Agreed
Actually, I don't think anyone CAN operate Ole Bob Berger..except him.

I like him a lot.
ken

At 05:10 PM 5/14/02 -0600, you wrote:
My friend Ole Bob is pretty simple to operate,...

That has not been my experience; he is actually pretty complicated.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

 -Original Message-
From:   sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent:   Tuesday, May 14, 2002 5:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CScs color

Hi Jack,
I was wondering what the impact of water temperature at the starting point
has. Can this affect the silver particle's sizes? My friend Ole Bob is
pretty simple to operate, I don't know how I could produce large particles
of cs. My cs is usually colorless, I have made cs with a very slight 
yellow
color, and of course this other batch that was fine and then, turned pink 
in
the fridge. The water I use is steam distilled water from the drug store. 
We

do not have Walgreens here in Ontario(that I know). Somebody in Quebec
mentioned using Life brand steam distilled water from Pharmaprix. We have
life brand at our Shoppers drug stores. I have purchased some but haven't
used it yet.


On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and 
how

soon do you think it would take to clear?

Thanks, anybody's help and comment is always welcome,
Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 13:48:25 -0700

5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

  Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
  Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow
monitoring
  of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack


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Re: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft

Ken,
can you explain how the stir rate affects the cs?
Thanks, Sylvie


Original Message Follows
From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:33:40 -0400

  The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM.
 Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up to
1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled 
current.

 The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his photospectrometer.
At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say his
equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic and
some of the particulate?  I dunno.
 NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic and
colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but
they wanted huge samples. [I have the report]
 The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna PPM
meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according to
'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator
circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver either.
 Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle
formation.
 Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle
formation.

BTW, Jack
 The gen you sent back is working perfectly.  I made a 16 oz batch in 3
hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this
morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable so
far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes]
 I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out at
27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right.
Ken



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RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
Hello Sylvie:-))

Check out www.drclark.com. Dr Hulda Clark wrote a book called The Cure
for All Diseases in which she extols the Zapper, as she calls it. It
is a method of killing parasites, germs, fungii, viruses, etc using
pulsating DC applied through the body from electrodes attached to the
extremities (e.g. wrists, ankles, standing on aluminum foil (covered with
wet paper towels). The Zapper is the electronic circuit that does the
zapping, easily built from Radio Shack parts or purchased in a more
useable and controllable form from Dr Clark, www.adcomtronics.com or many
other vendors. Type Zapper into a search engine and all kinds of links
come up. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an
alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). I
built my first one and then purchased a commercial unit from adcomtronics
simply because I was too lazy to build a better one than my first attempt.
It seems to be very useful on skin ailments of any type. I actually had a
tumor on my left arm disappear after about a week of zapping a few days
before I was scheduled for surgery to remove it. The doctor who was to do
the surgery was amazed and stated, you must be living right.

John Reeder

-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


O.k I have refrained from asking this but it is really getting to me to
not know... WHAT IS A ZAPPER???
Sylvie:-))


Original Message Follows
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:33:18 -0700

I am new to this forum, but, in my experience, cs keeps me healthy on a
continuing basis. If I came under massive attack I would resort to the
zapper first and antibiotics last meanwhile keeping the cs in the system. I
suspect that some critters need to be attacked from more than one angle. cs
in the bloodsteam has a hard time getting to the skin although when rubbed
on an infected area seems to help, if not irradicate, the infection. The
zapper works the best and quickest on skin ailments and, if I was calling
this warfare, the zapper is the heavy artillery and the cs is the
hand-to-hand combat element. The new element in my arsenal is VCO and I am
not fully aware of how to use that method of treatment. Also, right now, I
am investigating the LED method of combat. The war goes on and on. One of my
college students came down with a lung infection (he is a close friend also)
and I have him taking cs without very noticeable results. Today I put him on
the zapper and saw very noticeable results in his appearance, but the cs
continues for him.

John
   -Original Message-
   From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
   Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 9:46 PM
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


Mariano,
How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S??
Did they take anyhting else with it etc?  I been on it about 2months now
and drinking abt   14 oz aday now.  I still have the p[ain and the virus.
What am I if I am, doing wrong?
   Maxine
 -Original Message-
 From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


 How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and
the CS orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.
How about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?
   - Original Message -
   From: Maxine Wilton
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM
   Subject: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


Hello Gary,
Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??
 My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.
I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.
What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?
I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning
it
some ,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding
oneself of the unstopable Virus I beleive.
I am also on CS  and won't give up yet.
   Maxine
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RE: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
What is the Zoster Virus? Read my post about the Zapper. Isn't shingles
a skin ailment? As far as VCO is concerned, you take by all means possible
except maybe breathing it. Rub it on, brush your teeth with it, use it for
cream in your coffee, put it in your food, and first thing you know, you
will turn into a coconut tree (joke).

John

-Original Message-
From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


Do you know if the Coconut oil has KILLIED the Zoster Virus   after  a
person has suffered thepain for 17 months of Shingles etc?

If so how would a person take and or use it or both??
Maxine stioill after 17 month suffer the terrible pain.
I am taking CS abt 14 + oz  a day, and now have some herbs and trying
Turkish Oregono in capsule form plus  some tea with a number of herbal pain
killers.  All just lessons some.
Maxine.
mm...@sprynet.com
-Original Message-
From: FHLew klini...@tm.net.my
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


   Mike D wrote:

   Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for
skin
 disorders? 

Yes, I have on several ocassions prescribed  ozonated
Coconut Oil for my patients [ Geriatric,Adult and Paediatric ] with
dermatological problems. They responded satisfactorily. There was a case of
painful scalded
hand of a young girl. Immersion of the scalded hand in coconut oil bubbling
with ozone relieved the severe pain within minutes. Wet dressing of the
scalded areas with Colloidal Silver [5 to 10 ppm] expedites epithelization
of the scalded tissue. I have the presence of mind to videotape this
out-patient  case for clinical presentation.

  Coconut Oil, like the mother's milk, is rich in lauric
acid, which is converted in the body to the fatty acid, monolaurin, which is
anti-viral. The
presence of monolaurin may ward off  infectious viruses that cause Measles,
Herpes, Cytomegalovirus,Vesicular stomatitis and possibly the AIDS virus.

With regards
Lew




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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


  Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in the
  body?
 
  The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
  is the actual critter killer.

 Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin
 disorders?

 Mike D.

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RE: CScs color

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft
Katrin, this article is very informative but I'm afraid it discredits any of 
the members' cs group. Do you purchase all your cs or do you make your own. 
Carno doesn't believe it can be made outside of lab setting.

Sylvie

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Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CScs color
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 20:35:22 +0300

Here you can find many answers.

www.carnoimpex.fi

Katrin

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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color

  The DW I use is from Food Lion and meters at 1 to 2 PPM.
 Walgreens doesn't even register. It takes a very long time to build up
to
1 or 2 PPM where the generator will start to pull its set controlled
current.
 The 26.8 PPM figure came from Ole Bob himself via his
photospectrometer.
At the time he said it was total silver, then changed his tune to say
his
equipment only measures Ionic silver. Maybe it measurs all of the ionic
and
some of the particulate?  I dunno.
 NCDNR Water Lab in Raleigh says 45.5 PPM total silver content. [Ionic
and
colloidal particulate] I don't know what method they used to test it but
they wanted huge samples. [I have the report]
 The generator is set to turn off at 15-17 PPM ionic as read by a Hanna
PPM
meter..which does NOT read particulate. Total silver will vary according
to
'in process' agglomeration of ions into particles as the generator
circuitry works like the meter and won't detect particulate silver
either.
 Both water temperature and stir rates influence 'in process' particle
formation.
 Probably, temperature differentials influence 'post process' particle
formation.

BTW, Jack
 The gen you sent back is working perfectly.  I made a 16 oz batch in 3
hours with cool FL water yesterday. Light TE remains unchanged this
morning...shut down at 16PPM ionic and has remained colorless and stable
so
far. I only had to wipe the rods once. [old used pitted electrodes]
 I sent you a new transformer for your replacement gen. It checked out
at
27vac at no load. I think that'll do her up right.
Ken


At 01:48 PM 5/14/02 -0700, you wrote:
5/13/02 5:53 AM sylvie hargraft wrote:

 Then, where should cs be stored? Room temperature and stay away from
fridge?
 Should I then stay away from colored bottled, in order to allow
monitoring
 of cs color ?


Hi Silve, This is just from my experience so far (5 batches).

Each batch has been without any color at all, and if Ken's figures are
correct, each batch should have been  about 28 ppm.

As to storage, we happened to have a 2 pint glass lined (vacuum bottle)
carafe that is serving very well for this purpose.

I don't remember if you mentioned the brand of DW that you are using,
but not all brands are PURE  distilled water. If there is a Walgreens
available do try their brand - it is steam distilled and deionized. If
you
do try it, be sure to seed it from a previous batch of silver. My
first
wasn't , it ran almost 5 hours. With one ounce of seed I get shutoff
in about 2:45 hours. Now this is more than twice as long as Ken states
as
run time, so I will try 2 Ounces, I'll let you know what results.

Jack


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CSzapper

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft

Do you believe as does Dr. Clark that all diseases are caused by parasites?
Sylvie:-))


Original Message Follows
From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:33:28 -0700

Hello Sylvie:-))

Check out www.drclark.com. Dr Hulda Clark wrote a book called The Cure
for All Diseases in which she extols the Zapper, as she calls it. It
is a method of killing parasites, germs, fungii, viruses, etc using
pulsating DC applied through the body from electrodes attached to the
extremities (e.g. wrists, ankles, standing on aluminum foil (covered with
wet paper towels). The Zapper is the electronic circuit that does the
zapping, easily built from Radio Shack parts or purchased in a more
useable and controllable form from Dr Clark, www.adcomtronics.com or many
other vendors. Type Zapper into a search engine and all kinds of links
come up. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an
alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). I
built my first one and then purchased a commercial unit from adcomtronics
simply because I was too lazy to build a better one than my first attempt.
It seems to be very useful on skin ailments of any type. I actually had a
tumor on my left arm disappear after about a week of zapping a few days
before I was scheduled for surgery to remove it. The doctor who was to do
the surgery was amazed and stated, you must be living right.

John Reeder


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Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

2002-05-15 Thread Terry Dickinson
John Reeder wrote:

 Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an
 alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). 

Would be interested in knowing who approved this John

Regards   Terry


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CSTo Bob Lee re potassium iodide

2002-05-15 Thread nk
 Thank you, Bob, will try that.
 
 NK  
 
 Try Campmor catalog.
   spring of 2002, page 114, item No. 22150-K Germicidal drinking water
 tablets. 
  They have sold them for many years.
  Price $4.99 for fifty tablets.
  Phone-- 1-800-CAMPMOR
 



CSpsoriasis

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft


A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system 
disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition. 
Any of you had success using cs? If so, I would suggest it to her, but I 
diffinitely do not want to make a fool of myself.

Sylvie:-))


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RE: CSzapper

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
Hello,

Good question, a would question that, but who knows. She seems to
have a lot of empirical evidence that supports her belief. Quien sabe?

John

-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSzapper


Do you believe as does Dr. Clark that all diseases are caused by parasites?
Sylvie:-))


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From: John Reeder jree...@sbcglobal.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:33:28 -0700

Hello Sylvie:-))

Check out www.drclark.com. Dr Hulda Clark wrote a book called The Cure
for All Diseases in which she extols the Zapper, as she calls it. It
is a method of killing parasites, germs, fungii, viruses, etc using
pulsating DC applied through the body from electrodes attached to the
extremities (e.g. wrists, ankles, standing on aluminum foil (covered with
wet paper towels). The Zapper is the electronic circuit that does the
zapping, easily built from Radio Shack parts or purchased in a more
useable and controllable form from Dr Clark, www.adcomtronics.com or many
other vendors. Type Zapper into a search engine and all kinds of links
come up. Interestingly, the Zapper was just approved in Europe as an
alternative healing method (kind of like the FDA approving cs here). I
built my first one and then purchased a commercial unit from adcomtronics
simply because I was too lazy to build a better one than my first attempt.
It seems to be very useful on skin ailments of any type. I actually had a
tumor on my left arm disappear after about a week of zapping a few days
before I was scheduled for surgery to remove it. The doctor who was to do
the surgery was amazed and stated, you must be living right.

John Reeder


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CSRe: CScs color/ pierced-ear infections

2002-05-15 Thread Tad Winiecki
-Original Message-
From: sylvie hargraft [mailto:sylviehargr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 4:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CScs color

On another note,
I am having problems with infection from my earrings. I have been applying
cs to the holes for about 5-10 min. How often should I apply the cs and how
soon do you think it would take to clear?


Hi, my daughter just got her ear cartilage pierced after failing with her
earlobes (let them close up after not being able to get rid of infections.)
She's been told to wash 2x a day with antibacterial soap and apply Bactine,
and soak her ear in very warm 1/2 tsp sea salt in a cup of water every
other day for 15 minutes.  Her ear is getting sore.  I'd like to see her
use some CS in a soak but I assume it wouldn't be compatible with the sea
salt?  Also, putting something greasy on it like Virgin Coconut Oil somehow
seems ill advised to me but what do I know?  Has anyone actually tried this
with good results?  My VCO is very solid- do you warm it up in a microwave
or over some hot water first?  I got some Spectrum brand from my coop,
www.azurefarm.com.  I assume it is used on the skin, as well as in cooking.
What formulations have people used with it?  Do you put essential oils like
Tea tree oil, lemon oil, or lavender oil in it?  Thanks, Nancy



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CSDMSO as a transporter

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Mahoney
In a recent message:

 Subject:  Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO
 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:50:19 -0400
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 DMSO has unique properties in that things mixed in it will carry through
 the skin to the bone/bloodstream almost immediately.

( snip)


This reminded me that I used to have a concern that DMSO might
transport pathogens through the skin and change what was a
localized problem into a systemic problem. I no longer have
that concern.

Dr Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long time user of DMSO,
addressed this concern as follows:

That is not true. You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a
molecular weight of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus
is one million. A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.


You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
made this comment at:

http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.



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Re: CSDMSO as a transporter

2002-05-15 Thread Maxine Wilton
 Michael
 Will the DMSO  help To  KILL the Zostirs Chicken Pox, Shingles Virus?
 If so, can I mix it with something else and put in on where the nerve that
was attacked by the virus to help pain and Kill the Virus in it???
Maxine
mm...@sprynet.com

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From: Michael Mahoney mmaho...@eoni.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: CSDMSO as a transporter


In a recent message:

 Subject:  Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO
 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:50:19 -0400
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 DMSO has unique properties in that things mixed in it will carry through
 the skin to the bone/bloodstream almost immediately.

( snip)


This reminded me that I used to have a concern that DMSO might
transport pathogens through the skin and change what was a
localized problem into a systemic problem. I no longer have
that concern.

Dr Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long time user of DMSO,
addressed this concern as follows:

That is not true. You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a
molecular weight of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus
is one million. A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.


You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
made this comment at:

http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.



Michael


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CSPsoriasis

2002-05-15 Thread Dave Sawatzky
Sylvie;

I have had two people that have had success with CS for Psoriasis. The first 
one was a young lady approx. a year ago, she had a bad case of it in her scalp. 
She used cs both topically and internally and most of it cleared up. Only after 
she also started drinking a Flor Essence (Essiac) herbal tea did it clear up 
completly.

Second person, an elderly male, I gave him a sample bottle in December and 
after one bottle was much improved. He has been taking it on a regular basis 
since then and has been free of the Psoriasis for several months already. He 
had not had any success from prescribed medications.

Hope this helps, I hope it will also be succesfull for your friend.

Dave Sawatzky

Sylvie wrote
A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system 
disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition. 
Any of you had success using cs? If so, I would suggest it to her, but I 
diffinitely do not want to make a fool of myself.
Sylvie:-))



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Re: CSRe: CScs color/ pierced-ear infections

2002-05-15 Thread sylvie hargraft
Thanks everybody for your helpful comments, I'll be trying a few suggested 
things,

Thanks to all, Sylvie:))


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Re: CSpsoriasis

2002-05-15 Thread Jennifer Popp
Psoriasis is indeed an indication of a poorly functioning immune system. I'd
imagine CS applied topically would do wonders for the discomfort of
psoriasis. And taken internally would probably balance out the intestinal
flora. But proper nutrition and some immune system boosting (with maybe
Moducare) is what's required for the long haul. And I stress the proper diet
strongly. A body can't fend off all of today's ills when it's busy trying to
work off of the crap people are eating these days.

You might suggest a Naturopath to get this person on a long term plan.

Jenn Popp
Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet
http://www.healthy-paws.ca

- Original Message -
From: sylvie hargraft
| A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system
| disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition.




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Re: CSpsoriasis

2002-05-15 Thread CKing001
Taking MSM is extremely helpful for such skin conditions.
Besides, it's good for you.

Chuck
I once fell through the trap door.
They said it was a stage I was going through.
(Max Headroom)

On Wed, 15 May 2002 21:33:39 -0400, Jennifer Popp jenp...@rogers.com wrote:

From: sylvie hargraft
| A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system
| disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition.



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CSTest

2002-05-15 Thread brooks . bradley
This is a test to see if my new subscription is 
working.  If so, I am back in business as far as being 
able to post to the list.
  Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.


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Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

2002-05-15 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Hang in thereMy neighbor  only drank about 2 oz per day, but it took about 
4 months before he noticed anything.  It was very SLOW, and very GRADUAL, but 
it was definately worth the wait.He is 76 years old, and says he's feeling 
better than 15 years ago.  When he started on the CS he could not even put his 
wallet in his pocket without pain, and he could not sit on one side without 
comfort, also, he slept on one of those foam mattresses, but still could not 
sleep on one side.  Now he can do all of it.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxine Wilton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Mariano,
   How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S??
   Did they take anyhting else with it etc?  I been on it about 2months now and 
drinking abt   14 oz aday now.  I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I 
if I am, doing wrong? 
  Maxine 
-Original Message-
From: MARIANO DELISE nancym...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and the 
CS orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.  How 
about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxine Wilton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: CSGary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Hello Gary,
   Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??
My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.
   I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.
   What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?
   I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning it 
some ,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding 
oneself of the unstopable Virus I beleive.
   I am also on CS  and won't give up yet. 
  Maxine 
  mm...@sprynet.com





Re: CSpsoriasis

2002-05-15 Thread MARIANO DELISE
My 19 year old friend had psoriasis so bad she was supposed to goto the Dr.
for shots (I think steroids).  She put CS on gauze and covered the
psoriasiswith the wet gauze, then completely covered it with Saran plastic
wrap.  This kept the dressing wet all night. She did this about three nights
in a row, and almost all gone
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From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:24 PM
Subject: CSpsoriasis



 A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system
 disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition.
 Any of you had success using cs? If so, I would suggest it to her, but I
 diffinitely do not want to make a fool of myself.
 Sylvie:-))


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Re: CSzapper

2002-05-15 Thread wolfcreek1
 Do you believe as does Dr. Clark that all diseases are caused by
parasites?
 Sylvie:-))

Hi Sylvie ~

Many believe Dr. Clark is an extremist, but the basis for her thoughts is
very sound, IMHO.  I did a parasite cleanse 3 years ago.  I'd been diagnosed
lactose intolerant for over 25 years.  A single scoop ice cream or 1/2 cup
pasturized milk would give me boils on my face (I was not otherwise acne
prone) and bronchitis.  I could not eat eggs, since my first pregnancy with
my son, 20 years prior to doing this cleanse, or I would vomit.  Regardless
of how I tried to eat eggs, which I loved... :-(
I am very happy to say that since that first parasite cleanse, I can eat ice
cream and eggs any which way without ill effect!

Our pets carry parasites and are wormed regularly, yet no doctor of mine
ever asked for a fecal sample from me or my children.  Our foods have
parasites.  Bugs lay eggs in fruits and veggies, that if we don't cleanse
them well for 15-30 minutes, we consume these.  Meats have parasites as
well.  Parasites can live anywhere in your body too, blech!

We have noted that in treating animals others bring to us for illness and
disease, those that have higher parasite loads are tougher to heal and
sometimes the parasite load is enough to kill them.  Remember too, parasites
steal your nutrition from the foods you eat.

Plus, her other recommendations of kidney and liver cleanses are good as
well.  A CLEAN, non-toxic system should surely give you better health,
energy, and longevity, whereas a system laden with toxins, processed foods,
etc., in the long run, will not. Granted, there are those few, who have
fabulous immune systems, even if they eat fruity pebbles 3x/day.  Most
humans or animals cannot survive with true health this way.

Happy Howling,

Julie  Critters
Wolf Creek Ranch
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Re: CSgold

2002-05-15 Thread Marshalee Hallett


 Sylvie,
 The acid in your body often makes it  make green apear on your skin. A
gold
 ring will on many people, me incl.,   on your finger turn green. snip  I
don't wear anything with Yellow Gold.  The white Gold won't do this as
 some jewelry is made of.

 Maxine

Dear Maxine,
If your gold jewelry makes your skin turn green, then whoops! it ain`t gold!
It is a cuprous metal alloy, with perhaps some gold but probably not much.
Try 14 KT gold, it won`t do that. It is mostly gold with some silver in it
for strength. White gold has more silver, red gold has some copper.
Marshalee, a lapidary, and silversmith wannabe...



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RE: CSDMSO as a transporter

2002-05-15 Thread John Reeder
From what I understand, DMSO doesn't do the bug killing, it is a transport
for other 'medicines'. My grandmother used DMSO on her arthritis to kill 
pain and it seemed to work for that. The bug killers are cs, VCO and the
zapper.

John

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From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:10 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDMSO as a transporter


 Michael
 Will the DMSO  help To  KILL the Zostirs Chicken Pox, Shingles Virus?
 If so, can I mix it with something else and put in on where the nerve that
was attacked by the virus to help pain and Kill the Virus in it???
Maxine
mm...@sprynet.com

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From: Michael Mahoney mmaho...@eoni.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: CSDMSO as a transporter


In a recent message:

 Subject:  Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO
 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:50:19 -0400
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 DMSO has unique properties in that things mixed in it will carry through
 the skin to the bone/bloodstream almost immediately.

( snip)


This reminded me that I used to have a concern that DMSO might
transport pathogens through the skin and change what was a
localized problem into a systemic problem. I no longer have
that concern.

Dr Stanley Jacob, inventor of MSM and long time user of DMSO,
addressed this concern as follows:

That is not true. You see, DMSO will not carry anything with a
molecular weight of over 1000. Now, the molecular weight of a virus
is one million. A bacteria has a molecular weight in the millions.
It won't carry a virus or a bacterium.


You can read a transcript of the interview in which Dr. Jacob
made this comment at:

http://www.ic-network.com/guestlectures/jacobtranscript.html.



Michael


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Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO

2002-05-15 Thread FHLew

Maxine asked:

  Do you know if the Coconut oil has KILLIED the Zoster Virus   after
a  person has suffered thepain for 17 months of Shingles etc?

  To-date, No.

I am taking CS abt 14 + oz  a day, and now have some herbs and
trying Turkish Oregono in capsule form plus  some tea with a number of
herbal pain killers.  All just lessons some.  

A very simple way to try out an alternative to reduce herpetic pain
is to radiate Blue Light to the painful areas. Experiment using a torch and
any blue-tinted material  or direct exposure to blue light.  BTW  the
vibratory signature of Ozone is blue. As a gas, it is faintly blue and when
in the liquid form, it is dark blue. Constitutionally, the vibratory
signature of  the colour Blue has 3 resonating components:

 1. Thermal
 2. Electrical
 3. Anti-microbial

which contribute to its chromo-therapeutic effect as a
nervine,anti-inflammatory and cooling alternative.

   The therapeutic or the synergistic  effects of  any regime of medication
complementary or mainstream, depend largely on the chromo-chemical
composition of the products  and their photo-chemical compatibilities. I
rather discuss the topic on Chromo- Photo Therapeutics  in the new OT List
when the ocassion arises.

   From the variegated colours of the  brewed Colloidal
Silver and its aggregation, as observed and reported by list
members,including me, there are many unspoken questions I ask myself on
Colloidal Silver.

  How Colloidal Silver is affected by:

   1. Ambient Light
   2. Ambient Temperature
   3. Ambient Pressure
   4. Ambient Sound
   5. Chromo-chemical and photo-
chemical
   compatibilities/ properties
of its container  [ Plastic, Glass etc ]. I would like to address myself
to list members knowledgeable in their respective  fields when the
opportunity presents for shared learning.

   What is Gold but is Silver ?   All that glitters is
not GOLD.

 http://www.gcs.sohtech.com

With regards
Lew


- Original Message -
From: Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


 Do you know if the Coconut oil has KILLIED the Zoster Virus   after  a
 person has suffered thepain for 17 months of Shingles etc?

 If so how would a person take and or use it or both??
 Maxine stioill after 17 month suffer the terrible pain.
 I am taking CS abt 14 + oz  a day, and now have some herbs and trying
 Turkish Oregono in capsule form plus  some tea with a number of herbal
pain
 killers.  All just lessons some.
 Maxine.
 mm...@sprynet.com
 -Original Message-
 From: FHLew klini...@tm.net.my
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:45 AM
 Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


Mike D wrote:

Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil
for
 skin
  disorders? 

 Yes, I have on several ocassions prescribed  ozonated
 Coconut Oil for my patients [ Geriatric,Adult and Paediatric ] with
 dermatological problems. They responded satisfactorily. There was a case
of
 painful scalded
 hand of a young girl. Immersion of the scalded hand in coconut oil
bubbling
 with ozone relieved the severe pain within minutes. Wet dressing of the
 scalded areas with Colloidal Silver [5 to 10 ppm] expedites epithelization
 of the scalded tissue. I have the presence of mind to videotape this
 out-patient  case for clinical presentation.

   Coconut Oil, like the mother's milk, is rich in lauric
 acid, which is converted in the body to the fatty acid, monolaurin, which
is
 anti-viral. The
 presence of monolaurin may ward off  infectious viruses that cause
Measles,
 Herpes, Cytomegalovirus,Vesicular stomatitis and possibly the AIDS virus.

 With regards
 Lew




 - Original Message -
 From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:37 PM
 Subject: Re: CSNew subject: cs and VCO


   Robb Allen rube2...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Does anyone know the mechanism that VCO uses to kill critters in
the
   body?
  
   The lauric acid in VCO is converted by the body to monolaurin, which
   is the actual critter killer.
 
  Is there any benefit from topical application of coconut oil for skin
  disorders?
 
  Mike D.
 
  [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
  [mdev...@eskimo.com]
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