CSCS RE Cheap PM Tester

[Harold MacDonald]

My favourite saying and belief over the years is,[which has proven true many
times] ;A poor man can not afford to buy anything cheap  ]
Think about it.
Harold


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CSRe: distilling water through glass wool and resin

[Reid Harvey]

Silver Friends,
People in a neighboring country, here in South Asia, are making a very
mineral free water, 10TDS, by filtering water through a combination of
glass wool and some sort of resin.  They use about twenty sections of 4
inch pvc pipe, each about 18 inches long, and each stuffed with layers
of the glass wool and resin.  I would like to replicate this process but
first need to find out what resin it is that would be appropriate.  Also
I assume that glass wool is glass wool and is easier to find.

For this process I understand the glass wool can be periodically washed
out and the resin can be processed for re-use.  Is there anyone who can
give me some insight on these materials, how I might use them in this
way and where to find them? We are considering the possibility of making
distilled water in this way so that we can produce concentrated
colloidal silver for use in saturation of ceramic water purifiers.
Thanks,
Reid



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Re: CSrain...

[Ode Coyote]

  I've done so off a tin roof after it had rained for a while and it 
worked OK.  Water tested good on a PWT.  Someone pointed out the 
possibility of bird droppings and such.
 Best is to use a clean sheet of plastic to concentrate the rainfall and 
discard the first couple of containerfuls.  It takes a bit of time for rain 
to wash the air. Other than that..should work.


Easiest way to do that is to drive 4 stakes into the ground and suspend the 
plastic sheet by the corners with a hole in the center and the collection 
container under the hole.


Ode



At 12:02 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some in a
cup and make CS with it?
Ice


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Re: CSBrita filter

[Ode Coyote]

no

At 12:04 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

Is a brita filter any good for making CS?
Ice


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Re: CScheap ppm tester

[Ode Coyote]

 My experience says that all the Hanna meters are VERY good at 
repeatability, so once it reads right once, it will always read right.

 The question is, what is right?
 All the meters I have read almost exactly the same regardless of purchase 
date or model but none of them match the calibration solution I bought from 
Hanna...not by a long shot.


Ode

At 06:31 PM 6/7/2003 +0200, you wrote:

I did a Google search for 'tds-1  calibration  curve' and got
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:sOl1Pc1aKr0J:www.hannainst.com/downloads/instr/hi9835.pdf+tds-1+calibration+curvehl=enie=UTF-8 




and found an html version of
http://www.hannainst.com/downloads/instr/hi9835.pdf. which I have saved as
HI9835 Instruct manual.htm

If this is the TDS-1 that has been spoken of on the list in the past then I
am now greatly impressed. Measures conductivity, TDS, temperature and NaCl
1% accuracy 1% deviation and autoranging
eg Accuracy: EC +_1% of reading +_(0.05uS/cm or 1 digit whichever greater
  TDS +_1% of reading +_(0.03uS/cm or 1 digit whichever greater)
Lowest TDS range is 0.00 to 14.99ppm

The TDS factor is default at 0.5 but can be changed within the range .4 to .8

The specs look OK to me.
Tony


ascottsil...@aol.com wrote:

Hi Jay and Mike,
The thing that scares me about the TDS-1 is that the accuracy is 
guaranteed at plus or minus 10 PPM. So if you are measuring a solution of 
10 PPM the meter can read anywhere from 0 to 20 PPM and still be in spec 
as far as the company is concerned. Probably the wrong meter for CS 
production at any cost.

Best wishes,
Andy
From: M. G. Devour
Well, Jay, there's value and there's value...
The TDS-1 from Hanna Instruments is a good bit cheaper, but it reads
from 0 to 2000 ppm. You'll be using it at the *very* bottom of its
range, which means the accuracy will not be tremendous. Sorta like
measuring grains of sand with a yardstick. Do you see what I mean?






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Re: CSrain...

[Ode Coyote]

  It also depends on when you catch it and where.  If it's been raining 
for several days and there has been little or no lightning to make nitric 
acid and your collection apparatus is clean...it might be OK.

 The store is a lot easier.
ode

At 09:31 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

I thought rain was water distilled naturally..Most contains H2O2, but
I'm curious now to have some tested.  Depends on what you catch it with.
Pure water (rain) picks up and dissolves a little bit of everything it comes
in contact with.

- Original Message -
From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: CSrain...


 Jay, NO.

 Ole Bob

 Jay Ice wrote:

  It's been raining all day everyday for the past month. Can I catch some
in a
  cup and make CS with it?
  Ice
 
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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[George]

  Jay, you're making something very simple woefully complicated.  
Get some  distilled water, a ppm tester, and make some CS like the
rest of us.

Catherine


What!  And lose all of this attention ya'll are paying 'him'?  Why on earth 
would 'he' want that to happen?  Each 
ignorant/stupid comment/suggestion generates even more emails to/about 'him'.  
This person appears to have 
learned next to nothing while generating an amazing amount of emails.  And each 
subject has to be broached 
multiple times from different directions and still there appears to be little 
or no learning involved.

Sometimes a basket case needs to be recognized for just what it is...

Regards,
George Martin



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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Jay Ice]

geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to for 2 
MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the 
same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW 
ANYMORE!
the ones I have tried since make MURKY WHITE CS I DON'T WANT TO 
COMPLICATE I LOVE SIMPLICITY!! I JUST NEED GOOD WATER!!! SO FAR 
I HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT NO RAIN NO BRITA FILTERED WATER. THERE 
IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR DISTILLED WATER THAT REGISTERED IN MY HEAD WITH THE 
FIRST OF THE REPLIES
Ice


 They moved it?


   Jay, you're making something very simple woefully complicated.
 Get some  distilled water, a ppm tester, and make some CS like the
 rest of us.

 Catherine


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[K Hammon]

Maybe they were just out, Jay.  The distilled water at my Walmart is 
with the drinking water, along with the baby fluoridated water.  I 
think there are 3 different kinds of water in one gallon jugs (blue 
labels, green labels, and pink labels).  Occasionally, my Walmart has 
been completely out of the distilled water (blue label), but they 
always get more in.  I'd just check back again.  I'm not sure if they 
also carry it in the pharmacy - I've never checked : )

Kim

On 8 Jun 2003 at 0:46, C Creel wrote:

 They moved it?
 
 
   Jay, you're making something very simple woefully complicated.  
 Get some  distilled water, a ppm tester, and make some CS like the
 rest of us.
 
 Catherine
 
 
 


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[C Creel]

geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to for
2
MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the
same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW
ANYMORE!


  And what would you like us to do about this?  Go somewhere that DOES have
distilled water.  It is available in most pharmacies.

Catherine


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Jay Ice]

this has gone sour. I didn't want this going on. I just wanted to find out 
if rain water would do. Or a brita filter... the answerNO. I will still 
search for good distilled water but until then I figured hey it's raining 
maybe that will work. Sorry if you took it that way. It wasn't meant like 
that. I don't know hwy it was taken that way. The thread ended for me with 
ole bob. if it continues then it will continue. But I now know what I need 
to know.
Ice



 geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to 
 for
 2
 MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the
 same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW
 ANYMORE!


   And what would you like us to do about this?  Go somewhere that DOES 
 have
 distilled water.  It is available in most pharmacies.

 Catherine


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[CKing001]

Jay
Ask the WM service desk or manager what happened ?
Maybe they're just between shipments.
Or, if a customer requests, they'll stock it again.

Chuck

I wouldn't take a million dollars for any of my kids, but I wouldn't pay a dime
for another one.

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 11:11:47 -0400, Jay Ice guess...@msn.com wrote:

this has gone sour. I didn't want this going on. I just wanted to find out 
if rain water would do. Or a brita filter... the answerNO. I will still 
search for good distilled water but until then I figured hey it's raining 
maybe that will work. Sorry if you took it that way. It wasn't meant like 
that. I don't know hwy it was taken that way. The thread ended for me with 
ole bob. if it continues then it will continue. But I now know what I need 
to know.
Ice


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Re: CScheap ppm tester

[Tony Moody]

Thanks Davido,
You are right. Google found a few hits on TDS ±1 while searching for TDS-1 
and I didn't notice.


here are the sites for the manuals of TDS-1 and the PWT
http://www.hannainst.com/downloads/instr/tds1.pdf
http://www.hannainst.com/downloads/instr/hi98308.pdf

Tony


David S Osborne wrote:

Tony

that's not info for the TDS-1

davido









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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Barnbert]

I have found that Walgreen distilled water is very consistant, usually reads 
out at 0.5 to 1.1 uS.

CSBob Beck's baldness cure

[S K]

According to a friend of Bob Beck's,he massaged ionic/colloidal silver into his scalp, and then used his Magnetic Pulser over hisentire scalp daily. He started to notice (which was a delightful surprise to him) re-growth of hair after about 2 months of doing this. The hair appeared to be thick and dark.
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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Joseph Fritz]

Where I live they get sold out sometimes wait a few days and check again.
Joseph Fritz

At 06:13 PM 6/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

I have been buying water from Wal*Mart for 2 months now. Then I go in to
grab a  couple gallons and I see no water on the shelves except one brand,
made with flouride for babies. So I am looking for a new source.


  It's not with the drinking water, Jay.  Look around the pharmacy area.

C


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[David Bearrow]

My tap water pegs the meter. Completely useless for CS. I tried distilling 
it in one of those countertop distillers and even after twice distilling it 
(8 hours), it still pegged the meter.


At 11:23 AM 6/8/03, you wrote:
I have found that Walgreen distilled water is very consistant, usually 
reads out at 0.5 to 1.1 uS.



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Re: CSBob Beck's baldness cure

[David Bearrow]

Directing a magnetic pulser at your brain seems like an unacceptable risk. 
Current would be induced in your brain and that doesn't seem like a good 
idea to me.


At 11:25 AM 6/8/03, you wrote:

According to a friend of Bob Beck's, he massaged ionic/colloidal silver 
into his scalp, and then used his Magnetic Pulser over his entire scalp 
daily.  He started to notice (which was a delightful surprise to him) 
re-growth of hair after about 2 months of doing this.  The hair appeared 
to be thick and dark.


Regards,
Nia


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CS WARNING: VIRUS

[Mike Monett]

To All,

I received three copies of a virus addressed to ncrffn...@sneakemail.com

This was my previous Silver List address, and it was never used anywhere
else. Probably someone caught it and it mailed copies to everyone in
their address book.

It won't execute on my system since I run Win 3.1 just for this reason. 
But I decoded it and it tries to open TCP ports. It seems to be the
Bugbear virus, which is spreading rapidly. See

  http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9880

If you have not installed the recent Microsoft patches, many viruses can
install themselves even if you don't click on the email. They can do
anything, such as get your credit card info, record your keystrokes and
send them back to a host, scramble your hard disk, destroy your flash
bios, etc. 

Check out the latest antivirus software for updates. Unfortunately,
these are only updated after many people have suffered the tender mercy
of the latest virus. For them, it's too late.

I don't know of a good defense except to run Linux or an old version of
Windows. I have both, and prefer Windows since it's compatible with DOS.

Good luck.

Mike Monett


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Joseph Fritz]

If it has a filter after distilling might need to remove it. Some 
distillers do this for some stupid reason if its distilled why filter?

Sincerely
Joseph Fritz

At 12:12 PM 6/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
My tap water pegs the meter. Completely useless for CS. I tried distilling 
it in one of those countertop distillers and even after twice distilling 
it (8 hours), it still pegged the meter.


At 11:23 AM 6/8/03, you wrote:
I have found that Walgreen distilled water is very consistant, usually 
reads out at 0.5 to 1.1 uS.



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Re: CSBob Beck's baldness cure

[Acmeair]

I went to Pasadena to see Bob Beck give his lecture a few years back. I had 
seen pictures of Mr. Beck, and he had hair around the sides but none on top. In 
person, he had a full head of hair, and the color was as bright as a new role 
of copper wire. He stated that the new growth was after mag pulsing his scalp, 
and CS, of course.

Jim

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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:25 AM
  Subject: CSBob Beck's baldness cure


  According to a friend of Bob Beck's, he massaged ionic/colloidal silver into 
his scalp, and then used his Magnetic Pulser over his entire scalp daily.  He 
started to notice (which was a delightful surprise to him) re-growth of hair 
after about 2 months of doing this.  The hair appeared to be thick and dark.

  Regards,
  Nia



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CSRe: ULVDC CS Unit

[S J Young]

Dick  other list members,

(Dick's question was sent to me privately, but I thought my answer might
help others)

 Question.  In using the LM334Z and the 330ohm resistor in the circuit of a
 battery powered CS unit, why would one have to use (3) 9 volt batteries?
Would
 this system work with (1) 9 volt battery?  The output is so small that a
 single 9 volt should run this circuit, yes?

 Dick

The initial voltage needs to be more than 9 volts to start drawing 0.2 ma
immediately.  It may take 16 to 20 volts or so for the CS generation to
start up full tilt.  If you start with just 9 volts, you will have no idea
how long it takes for the current to ramp up to 0.2 ma., unless you monitor
it with a current meter.  As time progresses, the voltage drops more and
more.  Probably after 4 hours, it would be down to 9 volts or less, and you
could disconnect the other two batteries if you wanted.  But why bother?
0.2 ma is a VERY small load for the batteries, and they will last a very
long time.

Ohm's Law is voltage (E:  used to be called Electromotive force) = current
(I) times resistance (R).  E = I * R.  The DW between the electrodes has a
certain resistance.  As CS is produced, silver ions form in the DW and the
resistance goes down.  Since the current is a constant value, the voltage
measured across the electrodes will drop with time, and end up less than two
volts after 24 hours.

In my case, the initial voltage was 17 volts.  Using Ohm's Law. R = E / I =
17 / .0002 = 85,000 ohms.  If we only had 9 volts available, then the
initial current will be I = E / R = 9 / 85000 = about .0001 amp or 0.1 ma.
So silver production at startup would only be half as much as when the
current finally gets to 0.2 ma.

At the end of the brew in my case, R = 1.6 / .0002 = 8000 ohms.  So the
resistance of the DW has dropped by a factor of almost 10 due to the
addition of the silver ions.  (Silver Colloids are also produced, but they
don't affect the resistance of the liquid.

Bottom line - use a voltage of at least 20 volts but not more than 38 volts
(the maximum voltage rating for the LM334 is 40 volts) to ensure your CS
production is consistent from brew to brew and not varying some with the
quality (electrical resistance) of the DW.  27 volts (3 batteries) is a good
choice.

--Steve Y.






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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[DIKMARI]

Hm...

There are other problems, Jay. I have made CS for years, under nearly every 
imaginable condition with good and not-so-good results.  

However, I have never been in a town that had a Walmart that did not have 
stream distilled water. I suppose there are stores that run out temporarily. It 
would be a very temporary condition.  I live in an area of the country where 
there has been drought conditions and yet have never failed to find steam 
distilled water if I wanted it.  Maybe I am just very fortunate.  The 
difficulty in 
finding common, high quality, steam distilled water does seems to be a unique, 
strange  factor that relates to you.  What's going on Jay?

Furthermore, I have never made CS under conditions that produced MILKY, WHITE 
CS.   I have overrun the batch at times and got murky dark gray CS.  I have 
seen it turn dark amber and over time turn to a rose colored.  I am just 
wondering...how on earth do you get it to turn MILKY WHITE?  Is this also a 
unique 
factor occurring only to your process? I don't know, but I don't recall hearing 
of this problem of MILKY WHITE CS before. 

I have openned up my last reading of the WalMart Water thread. It simply 
does not make sense anymore.

Dick
 

Re: CSDirect source for PPM meters...

[carpae . diem]

Well Said :)

I think I'll call up Hanna... It's a local call for me... I'l post what I
find out...

Regards,
Alexander
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Subject: Re: CSDirect source for PPM meters...



 ..until you ask them a meaningful question they can't answer because any
 answer contradicts their claims.  Then you get silence.


   Here's one where 1 microsiemen is 2 microsiemens or 2 is one.

 I've bought 2 PWT meters over the course of 4 years and they both read the
 same in the calibration solution as does the Dist1 PPM meter  I previously
 bought from Hanna years before either one of the PWTs, considering its
 limit of resolution.
   I ask the techies at Hanna via email
   Are the meters calibrated at the factory? [no answer]
   If they are, it's very consistant.  Congratulations on a good job.
[Thank
 you!]
 If they're not and you don't clearly say so negligence. [no answer]
 Is the calibration solution you buy an accurate way to calibrate them?
[yes]

   OK, why is there an almost 50% discrepency? Which setting is the correct
 setting?   They can't both be correct.  [ Idiot!  You shouldn't ask that
 question]

   Incidently, there's a temperature chart on the calibration solution
 bottle...but the meters are supposed to be temperature compensated.  No
big
 deal in the face of the fact that none of the numbers on the chart even
 come close to the factory setting.
   60% one way and 40% the other way still begs the same major  initial
 question that must be answered before the next minor question is asked.

 So, I still use the factory setting because most people don't buy the $11
 [plus shipping] calibration solution trusting the factory to send an
 accurate instrument or at least clearly state that it is not accurate and
 needs calibration, the factory setting is apparently very consistant over
a
 number of years and Hanna just won't tell me which is right...possibly
 because any 'real'  answer they CAN give is a catch 22 they can't look
good
 with.
   If MY meter reads 50% higher than yours, we have nothing AT ALL to talk
 about. We can't even compare meaningless numbers.

 ie:  If the calibraton sol is accurate..the meters aren't in spite of
sales
 promotion/ common sense manufacturing standards of precision
 instruments. and if the meters are shipped calibrated, the $11+
 solution isn't worth a hoot.

 ..and if they do get their act together and go ahead and decide which is
 which, they could very easily make an adjustment to one or the other but
it
 would reveal a million instances of incompetence in the past which they
 would be morally if not legally obligated to straighten out by admitting
 the error and sending a few hundred drums of free solution to every past
 customer who would then have to adjust each and every reading in their
 records...if the solution is accurate and the meter was miscalibrated at
 the factoryor...send out new solution to everyone who had bought
 solution in the past who would then have to change all their records.

 ..and notify how many others?

   Can you say infinitely cascading effects ? [Idiot!  You shouldn't ask
 that question!]

   Worst of all, the PWT is STILL the best meter available. It's extremely
 repeatable and the resolution is good...but what do the numbers mean?

   In the case of the homemade CSers. The numbers don't matter all that
 much.  Nobody is going to come to harm because of them one way or another.
   There are absolutely NO dosing standards for CS out there that make any
 sense at all.
   The only conceivable answer to how much? is As much as you feel you
 should...[It's nearly impossible to take too  much.] ...especially when
 99% of the people have no clue as to how strong what they have is
 regardless of how the generator maker told them to time their batches.
 [Timing an uncontrolled generator simply doesn't work..at all.  It's like
 predicting the velocity of a rock at impact when dropped from an unknown
 height that varies by a thousand feet]
Meters will , at least, give you repeatable batch references and even a
 cheap PPM meter is good enough for that, but they won't give you anything
 to argue about with someone else.

   We aren't going to sue Hanna for giving us a straight answer and maybe a
 correction factor if not new calibration solution. We don't even
have
 to know..it would just be nice.

   Out of curiosity..
Those folks who make their own measurement 'cells' based on
mathematical
 calculations and a multimeter...how do your numbers compare to a factory
 calibrated PWT?

 Ode

 
 They will be glad to explain the working of these meters too...
 
 Regards to All,
 Alexander J.Federowicz
 - Original Message -
 From: mailto:purplepixi...@yahoo.comJean DeMasters
 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comSilver List
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:08 PM
 Subject: CSRE Distilled Water, reply to 

Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Charles Sutton]

My store brand DW from Winn-Dixie Grocery Store is .5 PWT
Drug stores carry it, Grocery stores, even the 7-11 type stores.  must have
your PWT to check it out.

- Original Message - 
From: Jay Ice guess...@msn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: CSWal*Mart water


 geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to for
2
 MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the
 same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW
 ANYMORE!
 the ones I have tried since make MURKY WHITE CS I DON'T WANT TO
 COMPLICATE I LOVE SIMPLICITY!! I JUST NEED GOOD WATER!!! SO
FAR
 I HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT NO RAIN NO BRITA FILTERED WATER. THERE
 IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR DISTILLED WATER THAT REGISTERED IN MY HEAD WITH
THE
 FIRST OF THE REPLIES
 Ice


  They moved it?
 
 
Jay, you're making something very simple woefully complicated.
  Get some  distilled water, a ppm tester, and make some CS like the
  rest of us.
 
  Catherine
 
 
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CSRe: ULVDC CS Unit, RSULVCCCSG

[Mike Monett]

Steve,

Very good explanation! Another alternative is to quadruple the wetted
area by bending a long length of 12 ga into a W for the anode and
cathode. 

This reduces the initial resistance enough so a simple 9V battery and
27k to 47k resistor is all that is needed to stabilize the current. It
does not have to be perfect. 

Since there is a rash of acronyms recently, this might be called a
RSULVCCCSG, or Resistive-Stabilized Ultra Low Voltage Constant Current
Colloidal Silver Generator:)

My runs show less than 10% change in current which is negligible. The
nice thing is a 9V alkaline battery has a very stable 8.5V output over
most of its life. 

Most 9V alkalines have over 500 milliampere-hours of capacity, or 1,800
Coulombs. 

If you draw 6 Coulombs per 10 oz glass, there is enough for 300 glasses,
or almost a year. Since there is very little black crud wasted,
Faraday's equations are more accurate. For example, 6 Coulombs would
deposit about 22 ppm in an 8 oz glass in 15 hrs at 110 ua. Here's the
equations:

  hrs = 15  ; hours
  mnt = 0   ; minutes
  I   = 110e-6  ; current in Amperes
  oz  = 10  ; ounces
  ml  = 29.57 * oz  ; milliliters
  x   = 1e6 * 107.87 / 96485; x = 1117.99 get rid of Silver constants

  sec = hrs * 3600 + mnt * 60   ; seconds
  C   = I * sec ; coulombs
  ppm = x * C / ml  ; parts per million

Going through the calculations,

  hrs  = 15.15 
  ppm  = 22.68

Considering the recent posts from Ole Bob, the PWT may be off
calibration by a considerable amount. Using very low current and
counting Coulombs might be a bit more accurate.

Of course, I always rely on the salt test for confirmation. It's a lot
prettier:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[d.linen]

Do you have a supermarket where you live? GO THERE THEN Look
or ask if you are anywhere near serious about this at all.

Jay Ice wrote:
 
 geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to for 2
 MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the
 same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW
 ANYMORE!
 the ones I have tried since make MURKY WHITE CS I DON'T WANT TO
 COMPLICATE I LOVE SIMPLICITY!! I JUST NEED GOOD WATER!!! SO FAR
 I HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT NO RAIN NO BRITA FILTERED WATER. THERE
 IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR DISTILLED WATER THAT REGISTERED IN MY HEAD WITH THE
 FIRST OF THE REPLIES
 Ice
 
  They moved it?
 
 
Jay, you're making something very simple woefully complicated.
  Get some  distilled water, a ppm tester, and make some CS like the
  rest of us.
 
  Catherine
 
 
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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[sol]

Chuck,
  Your latest siggy has to be my all time favorite (until you post
with a new one!)
paula

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

 I wouldn't take a million dollars for any of my kids, but I wouldn't
pay a dime
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CSOT..Need Bald Cure QUICK

[larry tankersley]

Dear Lister's
 I've been cutting my hair for the past three or four years now, with
relative success, using a Wall's electric clipper. The clipper has
attachments that range from one inch down to BUZZZ cut. 
  Yesterday before I gave myself a 'little trim' I took the cutter
apart to clean and adjust the blades back to factory specks. Having felt
things were adjusted just right I plugged that bad boy in and proceeded
to see how good it would cut. Guess I did a good job as I cut a two inch
wide by four inch long strip right down the side of my head. at skin
level !!! @#$%^*( 
  I hadn't put the one inch height gage on...DUHH DUMMY. 
 When I saw the GLOB of hair hit the floor, and looked in the mirror,
it's hard to describe the feeling of disbelief 
  Anywaysss..in the context of living it be a small wrinkle; which
has already brought tears of laughter from friends., Perhaps it's a
small price to pay,laughter being the best medicine... it's all good. ;
)



larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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CSFollowing archive Subject threads

[jrowland]

While slightly modifying Subject lines under current discussion
doesn't much hamper comprehension now, it wreaks havoc later on when 
trying to follow Subject threads in our already labrynthian Archives
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
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Re: CSbaby bird - update

[Dean Miller]

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:42:05 EDT, form...@aol.com wrote:

I see I was too late in responding about the baby bird.  I just got to 
reading my mail today for the first time in more than a week.  Sorry.
Summer

Hey, no problem.

I saved your recipe for a time of need.   :)


-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSBrita filter

[Dean Miller]

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:46:26 -0400, Jay Ice guess...@msn.com wrote:

uh oh...I'm thinking that I have slit my throat with this question. I have 
lost my good source of distilled water. The 3 brands I have tried since are 
producing CS that goes straight to the sink. I should have also mentioned 
Brita filterED WATER, not just a brita filter. sorry. many things coming at 
once in my life right now.thinking has been a little foggy lately

HEY!!!

Don't pour bad CS into the sink.  It's still good stuff for external
use, and use on plants.  For use on trees, dilute it 20:1 or more and
put it into a pressure sprayer.  It'll also be good for gardens, house
plants, spraying pets, washing counter tops, etc.  

Even bad CS is good.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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CSAfrican Monkeypox in 3 Midwest States via Prairie Dog pets

[jrowland]

At least 19 people in three Midwestern states have contracted a disease 
related to smallpox, marking the first outbreak of the life-threatening 
illness in the United States...monkeypox...four of the victims have been 
hospitalized; none has died...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30086-2003Jun7.html
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Re: CSFollowing archive Subject threads

[Mike Monett]

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59920.html
CSFollowing archive Subject threads
From: jrowland
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:41:30

   While slightly  modifying Subject lines  under  current discussion
   doesn't much  hamper comprehension now, it wreaks  havoc  later on
   when trying  to follow Subject threads in our  already labrynthian
   Archives http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html

   jr

Yes, even when the subject line is not changed, it is sometimes hard to 
see which post someone is replying to.

That's why I copy the message url and three lines of the header and put 
them at the top, and delete most of any long posts. Most of the time, 
anyway:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSAfrican Monkeypox in 3 Midwest States via Prairie Dog pets

[David S Osborne]

ATTN  BROOKS  it's suspected the lil prarie-dog is the carrier???

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 13:13:30 -0700 jrowl...@nctimes.net writes:
 At least 19 people in three Midwestern states have contracted a 
 disease 
 related to smallpox, marking the first outbreak of the 
 life-threatening 
 illness in the United States...monkeypox...four of the victims have 
 been 
 hospitalized; none has died...
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30086-2003Jun7.html
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Re: CSFollowing archive Subject threads

[CKing001]

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:38:35 -0700, jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

While slightly modifying Subject lines under current discussion
doesn't much hamper comprehension now, it wreaks havoc later on when 
trying to follow Subject threads in our already labrynthian Archives
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
jr


So,
You're advocating NOT changing subject header?
(My glasses are going out the window. Now I've seen everything!)

Chuck
I wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. 
There's one called brightness, but it doesn't work.



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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Jim]

Try your local pharmacy, most carry DW as well as most grocery stores.

Jim

Jay Ice wrote:
this has gone sour. I didn't want this going on. I just wanted to find out 
if rain water would do. Or a brita filter... the answerNO. I will still 
search for good distilled water but until then I figured hey it's raining 
maybe that will work. Sorry if you took it that way. It wasn't meant like 
that. I don't know hwy it was taken that way. The thread ended for me with 
ole bob. if it continues then it will continue. But I now know what I need 
to know.

Ice




geez how come you guys don't get it. the Wal*mart I have been going to 
for

2
MONTHS now no longer carries any distilled water!!! I would go to the
same isle and it would be there now it's not! I CAN'T GET GOOD DW
ANYMORE!


 And what would you like us to do about this?  Go somewhere that DOES 
have

distilled water.  It is available in most pharmacies.

Catherine


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Re: CSOT..Need Bald Cure QUICK

[d.linen]

Ohmigod! Thank you so much for the much needed laughs. I kind of know
what you mean about cutting your own hair. I have a Flowbee and did
somewhat that you just did. I forgot to add a spacer and it ended up
next to my scalp too. I just went ahead and gave myself a buzz cut too. 

larry tankersley wrote:
 
 Dear Lister's
  I've been cutting my hair for the past three or four years now, with
 relative success, using a Wall's electric clipper. The clipper has
 attachments that range from one inch down to BUZZZ cut.
   Yesterday before I gave myself a 'little trim' I took the cutter
 apart to clean and adjust the blades back to factory specks. Having felt
 things were adjusted just right I plugged that bad boy in and proceeded
 to see how good it would cut. Guess I did a good job as I cut a two inch
 wide by four inch long strip right down the side of my head. at skin
 level !!! @#$%^*(
   I hadn't put the one inch height gage on...DUHH DUMMY.
  When I saw the GLOB of hair hit the floor, and looked in the mirror,
 it's hard to describe the feeling of disbelief
   Anywaysss..in the context of living it be a small wrinkle; which
 has already brought tears of laughter from friends., Perhaps it's a
 small price to pay,laughter being the best medicine... it's all good. ;
 )
 
 larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA
 
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Re: CSWal*Mart water

[Robert Berger]

Jay,

Ask the store manager for some DW, and stop the nonsense that you are putting on
this list.

Ole Bob




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CSVirus and address book

[Robert Berger]

EIS'ers,

About 4 years ago this thing raised it head and the solution is very
simple.

Make a new entry in your address book that consists of five zero's
0
When the virus hit the  is recognizes that this is no a valid
address and stops.

Ole Bob


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CSUnidentified subject!

[David S Osborne]

..such a deal.
via ABEBOOKS.com


Silverseed, Johnny COLLOIDAL SILVER: A Complete Guide (includes free
electro-colloidal generator) New Paperback. Published by SILVER SHIELD.
ISBN:0970825609 Bookseller Inventory #5827 Price: US$ 19.98 (Convert
Currency) Bookseller: Konstantin Krylov Entertainment, Brooklyn, NY,
U.S.A. (Search this Seller's Books)(Ask Bookseller a Question)

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Re: CSVirus and address book

[Mike Monett]

url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59930.html
CSVirus and address book
From: Robert Berger
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:24:00

   EIS'ers,

   About 4  years ago this thing raised it head and  the  solution is
   very simple.

   Make a new entry in your address book that consists of five zero's
   0 When the virus hit the  is recognizes that this  is no
   a valid address and stops.

   Ole Bob

  Hi Robert,

  That is  about  the  silliest  thing I  have  heard  of.  Are  you a
  programmer? It  would  take  a really sloppy  one  to  fail  on that
  condition.

  Viruses have  changed  a great deal in the past 4  years.  They have
  become much more robust and sophisticated. The programmers  have had
  plenty of  time to whet their skills trying to keep up with  all the
  changes Microsoft  has  made.  They have  no  trouble  modifying the
  Registry, or  disabling antivirus software. If they can  do  that, a
  minor flaw in an address book entry is not going to stop them.

  I really  don't  think that is very good advise to  give  people. It
  probably won't  work,  and will only give people  a  false  sense of
  security.

  Tell you what. I'll email you all the viruses I got last  month, and
  you tell me which ones fail on that entry:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #384

[Ann Furgurson]

Hi All!
I've been a silent participant of this newsletter
for a month or two, but still have some very basic
questions. I am a natural healer and have been using
and making CS for about 18 months ( but making it the
wrong way- heating it, using saline and making very
high ppm - I was using Metcaff's first book.) Now I
want to buy a new generator that will make CS that is
stable, of high quality, with consistently small
particles. I know that much. What I don't know is what
to buy. I think that low voltage is good too, right? I
feel that I need a degree in chemistry to understand
how it is made! I understand the applications and have
had wonderful results with CS, but I really want to
make it right. I see that Ruth bought a generator from
silverpuppy.com. What do any of you think about the
generator from
wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator? It's
called the colloid Master. I'll explain a little about
it, but it would be better if someone who knows
something could check it out and let me know please.
It's low voltage, automatic shutoff, current and
voltage are modulated for optimal particle size,
constant current devise, bi-directional current
pattern to the electrodes, so no stirring needed. It
has adjustable ppm and shut-off, built in water
quality test function. One sells for $99- the other
$149.
 I would appreciate so much if someone could let
me know what they think about this generator or if
they know of a better one. Your help will in turn
allow me to help many more people. Thank you!

Ann 

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CSrequest

[Ann Furgurson]

Hi All!
I've been a silent participant of this newsletter
for a month or two, but still have some very basic
questions. I am a natural healer and have been using
and making CS for about 18 months ( but making it the
wrong way- heating it, using saline and making very
high ppm - I was using Metcaff's first book.) Now I
want to buy a new generator that will make CS that is
stable, of high quality, with consistently small
particles. I know that much. What I don't know is what
to buy. I think that low voltage is good too, right? I
feel that I need a degree in chemistry to understand
how it is made! I understand the applications and have
had wonderful results with CS, but I really want to
make it right. I see that Ruth bought a generator from
silverpuppy.com. What do any of you think about the
generator from
wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator? It's
called the colloid Master. I'll explain a little about
it, but it would be better if someone who knows
something could check it out and let me know please.
It's low voltage, automatic shutoff, current and
voltage are modulated for optimal particle size,
constant current devise, bi-directional current
pattern to the electrodes, so no stirring needed. It
has adjustable ppm and shut-off, built in water
quality test function. One sells for $99- the other
$149.
 I would appreciate so much if someone could let
me know what they think about this generator or if
they know of a better one. Your help will in turn
allow me to help many more people. Thank you!

Ann 

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #384

[akaJhon]

I have many different c/s gen.,the WG is one of my 'top three'..IMHO...

| silverpuppy.com. What do any of you think about the
| generator from wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator? It's
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CSRudeness -- List Owner, please read...

[M. G. Devour]

Dear Silver List members,

There are a handful of individuals who have been behaving rudely to 
other members of the list.

Typical of this rude behavior has been the response to Jay's series of 
questions about various kinds of water.

Let me say that it's within the realm of reason that you *might* feel
exasperated by his questions. Over the course of a day or so, he
posted something like four questions about the suitability of various
kinds of water, to which the consensus reply was, Jay, use only
distilled water!

You might consider that he may have posted all of those questions 
before he saw more than the first couple of replies... so maybe he 
wasn't asking questions he'd already seen answered.

In any case, a number of people did offer respectful answers to his
questions. A few of you succeeded in urging him toward some obvious
answers he missed, while doing so in a reasonable manner.

Thanks to you folks! That's what the list is for.

Some other comments were made that were rude and wrong:

His questions are ignorant/stupid and he is a basket case who is 
only trolling for attention...

...and stop the nonsense that you are putting on this list.

...Jay if you are intent on producing crap...

... you remind me of my youth when I went out with a blond that no
mater (sic) what you told her it just wouldn't sink in...

Folks, I seem to remember making some CS that looked a lot like watered 
down milk... back in the bad old days when we used salt for a starter. 
Sorta like making CS in some high mineral content drinking water 
that's being sold as distilled. Like a couple of grocery store brands 
I've bought recently when they were out of the stuff I know works.

Did you consider that before you wrote Jay off as a crank?

And, you'll notice, a few of you offered good quality comments on the
difficulties of achieving reasonable purity from rain water. Gee, that
was useful, considering that such advice is found any number of places
on the web!

The following is an example of good advice delivered well...

 Jean,

 Feel comfortable with what you're doing. You are reacting to people
 that want to take a process to the nth degree, no need for meters
 etc. unless you need a science project. I've used grocery store
 distilled water for 5 years with never a bad batch. Worry more about
 soap residue from cleaning the brewing container...

Chuck

Yes, Jean might still want a meter of one sort or another. Yes, I just
got through noting above the problems I've had with some grocery
store distilled water. But those are things that can be dealt with as
they arise. What Chuck does *right* is to give reassurance and
encouragment.

What *cannot* be seen is the fear that will stop new people and
lurkers from asking questions because they fear *you* will call them
stupid, ignorant, or a troll, and their questions nonsense.

If you cannot answer without venting your frustration or exasperation, 
then remain silent.

If you would like to accuse somebody of being a troll, talk to me in
private e-mail. You may not make public accusations on this list.

If you cannot frame your answers in language that is respectful and 
affirming, then do not answer.

If you choose to be rude, you are forgetting the purpose of this list. 
If so, you will go away. You are not welcome here.

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #384

[Mike Monett]

url : http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59932.html
CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #384
From: Ann Furgurson (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:52:02

  Hi Ann,

  I looked briefly at the Colloid Master Model 777 Universal colloidal
  silver generator you wondered about:

  http://www.wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html

  Here are some items in quotes copied from that page:

Standard electrodes that come with the unit are 6 inches  long by
1/2 inch wide approximately 28 gauge, .999 silver electrodes, this
size electrode should be used to make quart size batches.

  Flat electrodes  concentrate  the current at the  edges.  This makes
  larger particles than with round 12 ga wire. The solution  will have
  greater tendency to turn yellow and plate out.

Notice a  small tab of the electrode faces outward  to  attach to
(See picture above). The tab can also point downward and  may ease
keeping the electrodes straight down in the jar once the electrode
wires are attached.

  The electrodes  are  not fastened to anything.  This  means  you are
  responsible for  keeping them flat, aligned and  a  uniform distance
  apart. This will turn out to be an impossible task.

Currently on  sale  for $ 144.00 USD. Suggested  retail  price is
$199.00. Comes with: Universal wall transformer runs on  110 volts
AC, 220  volts AC. Will also run on 12 volt  battery  with special
adapter. Electrodes,   hook   up   connector   wires,  travel bag,
instructions and 30 day money back guarantee, 1 year no  fee parts
and workmanship  warranty!   One   quart   standard  size batches.
Portable size, 2 inches high, 6 inches wide, 7 inches long.

  The price is way too high for what they offer.

Regarding   stirring,   the   Colloid   Master   (R)   employs  a
bi-directional current pattern to the electrodes. This  causes the
particles to  be  moved  into the solution without  the  use  of a
stirrer. We  addressed this issue long before others  even thought
to consider it.

  Bidirectional current has been around for a long time. I'm surprised
  they claim to have invented it. Take it with a grain of salt.

The Colloid Master was designed so that a common canning jar. Lab
glass is  expensive  and not required for this  process.  When the
electrodes are  suspended into the jar by the rim of the  jar, and
the electrodes are on opposite sides of the jar, there is then a 2
1/2 inch distance between them.

  Again, they  point  out  you have to  keep  the  electrodes properly
  positioned yourself.  This is very difficult to do with  thin sheet.
  You will fiddle with it and always wonder if it is affecting the cs.
  It probably is, if the electronics are poor.

The process will speed up considerably if the distance is reduced
to two  inches. This can be accomplished using a plastic  lid that
fits the  jar,  such as from a mayonnaise  jar,  cutting  3/4 inch
slits in  the lid at a distance of 2 inches apart.  Each electrode
can then be slid into the jar and a distance of 2 inches, or other
experimental distances for different metals can be maintained.

  They confirm that keeping a consistent spacing is  fairly important.
  But for the price, why do you have to make a lid yourself?

What are the reasons that production time can vary?

Production time  and  parts  per  million  in  general  will vary
primarily due  to  factors such as  water  quality,  power source,
having the  jar  too  close to 110 - 220 Volt  AC  power  lines or
anything that creates moving magnetic fields such as a 220 Volt AC
motors e.g.  clothes dryer etc.. Surprisingly one  of  the biggest
concerns is the SUN, in particular solar events. This may seem odd
at first,  however; we have monitored numerous  solar  events that
correlate to observed changes in the colloidal production time and
resulting colloid  for  more than five years at the  time  of this
writing.

  This is baloney. If solar events were not stopped by the ionosphere,
  we would  all be dead. If they believe it can affect  cs production,
  then they have serious problems in their electronics, and are trying
  to put the blame on something nobody can control. Don't buy it.

Solar events  are a big issue, especially during this  time. This
is due  to  the  fact that we are  in  an  extended  solar maximum
period, the sun is sending lots of high speed particles and x-rays
our way. We have noticed that if the events are very dramatic, the
process as  well  as the colloid can be effected.  It  is  easy to
visually identify the effects caused by solar occurrences  such as
coronal mass ejection that are directed to and effect  Earth. This
is discussed in the manual.

You can  monitor the solar events yourself here: Here  is  a link
for you  to  access  a very good 

Re: CSCS RE Cheap PM Tester

[Jack Dayton]

Harold MacDonald 6/7/03 8:13 PM  re: cheap meters

 My favourite saying and belief over the years is,[which has proven true many
 times] ;A poor man can not afford to buy anything cheap  ]
 Think about it.
 Harold
**
Think about Byron's Law..

There is nothing that some man can't make
a little cheaper, and sell for a little less.

And the person who considers price alone,
is this mans lawful prey.

Jack
Walt Disney was afraid of mice .


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Re: CSrequest

[Hank]

First get a PWT meter to test the DW and the PPMs 
Second take any power supply you may have from AC to 6Vdc to 40Vdc (your 
Scanner, Printer plugin will work) and two . silver wires, Put the + to one 
wire and the - to the other wire and you have what any of these high priced 
gen's have, other than you have to watch the PWT meter each hour or so to see 
what PPM you have other than a auto shut off. ( that is BS anyway) Even the 
seller's will tell you this.
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Ann Furgurson 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 6:55 PM
  Subject: CSrequest





  Hi All!
  I've been a silent participant of this newsletter
  for a month or two, but still have some very basic
  questions. I am a natural healer and have been using
  and making CS for about 18 months ( but making it the
  wrong way- heating it, using saline and making very
  high ppm - I was using Metcaff's first book.) Now I
  want to buy a new generator that will make CS that is
  stable, of high quality, with consistently small
  particles. I know that much. What I don't know is what
  to buy. I think that low voltage is good too, right? I
  feel that I need a degree in chemistry to understand
  how it is made! I understand the applications and have
  had wonderful results with CS, but I really want to
  make it right. I see that Ruth bought a generator from
  silverpuppy.com. What do any of you think about the
  generator from
  wishgranted.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator? It's
  called the colloid Master. I'll explain a little about
  it, but it would be better if someone who knows
  something could check it out and let me know please.
  It's low voltage, automatic shutoff, current and
  voltage are modulated for optimal particle size,
  constant current devise, bi-directional current
  pattern to the electrodes, so no stirring needed. It
  has adjustable ppm and shut-off, built in water
  quality test function. One sells for $99- the other
  $149.
   I would appreciate so much if someone could let
  me know what they think about this generator or if
  they know of a better one. Your help will in turn
  allow me to help many more people. Thank you!

  Ann 

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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V103 #384

[Hank]

True Mike, But still cost more than building your own, That is just as good.
Sincerely Yours,
Hank
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mike Monett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 7:35 PM  The Coyote  knows  what he is doing, and 
his unit is  the  best I've
seen. Also quite a bit less expensive.
   
  Best Regards,

  Mike Monett

CSRe: distilling water through glass wool and resin

[AScottSilver]

Hi Reid,

Do you really need mineral free water for your purpose? Does it matter if you 
make particulate silver or ionic silver or a silver compound if you are going 
to be saturating ceramic with it? I would think that you might even consider 
mixing the water with something so you can increase the concentration of 
suspended silver and thus increase the amount of total silver in the ceramic 
water 
purifiers. The idea is that the silver stays in the ceramic and the pathogens 
die as they pass through it right? If you use a good grade of DW and you are 
striving to make ionic silver you will be limited to a very small amount of 
total silver to impregnate the ceramic with. I would think that a high 
concentration of ions, particles and chunks would be best for your purpose.

Best regards,
Andy

From: Reid Harvey 
Silver Friends,
People in a neighboring country, here in South Asia, are making a very
mineral free water, 10TDS, by filtering water through a combination of
glass wool and some sort of resin.  They use about twenty sections of 4
inch pvc pipe, each about 18 inches long, and each stuffed with layers
of the glass wool and resin.  I would like to replicate this process but
first need to find out what resin it is that would be appropriate.  Also
I assume that glass wool is glass wool and is easier to find.

For this process I understand the glass wool can be periodically washed
out and the resin can be processed for re-use.  Is there anyone who can
give me some insight on these materials, how I might use them in this
way and where to find them? We are considering the possibility of making
distilled water in this way so that we can produce concentrated
colloidal silver for use in saturation of ceramic water purifiers.
Thanks,
Reid

Re: CSVirus and address book

[C Creel]

http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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Re: CSVirus and address book

[CKing001]

Oh, I dunno.
A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
triggered the mail error alert.
It would make me do a scan at the very least.
It's a easy trap to set.

That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
vewy, vewy cautious out there.

Chuck
I pray for boredom but it never comes 

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:


http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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Re: CSAfrican Monkeypox in 3 Midwest States via Prairie Dog pets :UPDATE

[Brooks Bradley]

Dear David,
			As usual, the YELLOW PRESS has only half the story.  The actual truth 
of the matter is that the Prairie Dogs have been falsely accused as the 
perpetrator of this incident.  In actual fact the culprit is the Gambian 
rat, indigenous to African nations.  It has now been established that it 
was a Giant Gambian rat inhabitant of the Pet Shop from which the 
epizootic originated.that was the SOURCE  of the monkeypox--the 
Prairie Dogs became infected and served as the vector for the human 
cases.  Again, the prairie dog is the undeserving victim of an 
ill-informed mediawhich makes its living from sensationalism.

Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

David S Osborne wrote:

ATTN  BROOKS  it's suspected the lil prarie-dog is the carrier???

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 13:13:30 -0700 jrowl...@nctimes.net writes:

At least 19 people in three Midwestern states have contracted a 
disease 
related to smallpox, marking the first outbreak of the 
life-threatening 
illness in the United States...monkeypox...four of the victims have 
been 
hospitalized; none has died...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30086-2003Jun7.html
jr


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Re: CSVirus and address book

[Hank]

I don't think the 0 Bob talked about will work anymore. I have all my other 
addresses in each mailbox. (I have 5) If a virus sends to all my list then I 
will get it in each mailbox. At least I will know I am sending it..
Sincerely Yours,
Hank

  - Original Message - 
  From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CSVirus and address book


  Oh, I dunno.
  A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
  triggered the mail error alert.
  It would make me do a scan at the very least.
  It's a easy trap to set.

  That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
  vewy, vewy cautious out there.

  Chuck
  I pray for boredom but it never comes 

  On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:

  
  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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CSINFO FROM PRAIRIE DOG DEFENDER

[Brooks Bradley]

For a little more accurate report one may go to the CDC website and 
obtain an elaboration which is much closer to the actual truth of this 
matter.Http://www.cdc.gov

Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.


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Re: CSVirus and address book

[d.linen]

My isp caught 3 of them for me last night and deleted them before they
could reach me. They sent me a warning about the three emails. 



cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Oh, I dunno.
 A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
 triggered the mail error alert.
 It would make me do a scan at the very least.
 It's a easy trap to set.
 
 That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
 vewy, vewy cautious out there.
 
 Chuck
 I pray for boredom but it never comes
 
 On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm
 
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