Re: CSEpstein-Barr virus and CS?(Plus Coxsckie, Candida and Interro)

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

 And if they mention children
 Classic lead-in to an emotional/fear based mind manipulation game.
Ode

At 08:25 AM 11/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
   Yup, if I read a website and it *feels* to me like there should be
dancing cheerleaders waving pompoms, my warning flags all go
up..scam alert!
paula

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Re: CSBrewing up a new generator...

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote
  I'm not much on math but your sketch made a light bulb go off.

1] The ion cloud has a tendency to sink.
2] The ion cloud has a tendency to be attracted from one electrode to the other.
3] The main reason to stir when a low current density is used is to distribute that cloud so the process will progress evenly and so the ions don't bunch up and form large particles in a localized high concentration zone.
[With higher current densities, stirring has other beneficial  effects.]

so

If one electrode were held high and the other low, one might be able to overcome the sinking tendency with the attraction tendency and achieve a sort of electrical stir effect.

I get a picture in my head of two horizontally positioned coins.
One [top] with a hole drilled in it and an insulated silver wire going through the hole and going down to another coin where it is welded to [with pure silver as in spot weld or resistance weld] or press fitted into another hole in [or otherwise attached to]  the lower horizontal coin.

An easy way to attach the lower coin:

Drill a hole in the center the same diameter as the holding wire.
Insert the wire, secure the wire in a vice so it won't move and pean the protruding end with a hammer blow or punch.

Or
Substitute the lower coin with a wire spiral with the center of the spiral being the insulated wire that goes up through the upper coin.

The hole in the upper coin should be a tight fit to the insulation so it will be held steady.
Connecting the upper coin electrically could be done in the same way as the lower coin..with an offset hole and insulated silver wire swedged into it.

Ode


At 03:30 PM 11/11/2003 -5, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'd appreciate if those of you who feel qualified would check my math 
>and offer your comments on what I'm proposing to build. Ole Bob? Trem? 
>Ken? Anybody? 
>
>I'm aiming for a design that will...
>
>1) Make a quart (liter) of CS overnight, unattended,
>
>2) Eliminate all mechanical or thermal stirring,
>
>3) Avoid build-up on the electrodes.
>
>I've attached a simple sketch of the electrode arrangement I'm thinking 
>about.
>
>For the anode I'll drill a hole in the edge of a 1 oz .999 silver coin 
>and hang it from a small hook bent in the end of a piece of 12 ga 
>silver wire, then crimped. 
>
>The wire will be insulated with spaghetti tubing and the immediate area 
>of the hook painted with clear nail polish or the like to avoid non-
>uniformities in the electric field and to keep the wire from eroding.
>
>I'm thinking about 2 cathodes, one on each side of the coin, made from 
>more 12 ga silver wire with all but the bottom 2 or 3 mm of their 
>length also covered by insulation. The exposed portion of each cathode 
>would be a bit more than the radius of the coin away from each side and 
>alligned approximately with the center of the coin.
>
>Anode surface area:
>
>diameter:   39 mm	
>face area:   2389 mm^2  (includes both sides)
>
>thickness:  2 mm
>edge area:  245 mm^2
>
>total area:   2634 mm^2		
>
>Electrical parameters:
>
>max cell voltage:  9V
>max cell current:  .75 ma (current limited)
>max current density:  0.284 ua/mm2or   183 ua/sq.in.
>
>Faraday calculations predict approximately 3 ppm per hour into a liter 
>of water.
>
>What will be the quality or character of the CS? What are the 
>consequences of the low current density, the ratio of anode to cathode 
>surface area, and the lack of stirring?
>
>Thoughts and suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike D.
>
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>
>
>Attachment Converted: e:\eudora 303\attach\generatorsketch.png
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RE: CSSulphur

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

  I use a Britta and it does filter out most of the iron.
 I also have a whole house charcoal filter. It also filters out the iron
pretty well, but the iron stays in the filter. It becomes contaminated so
badly with iron bacteria overgrowth that it makes the water smell like a
swamp in a mere week or so.
 The Britta works well because it's kept in the fridge and the iron
bacteria can't grow at that temperature.

Ode

At 02:03 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, Richard Harris wrote:
Hi Grant  Al,
I sympathize with you as you drink your iron  sulfur water--Have you tried
the effective and economical BRITA) water pitcher?
Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

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Subject: Re: CSSulphur


Hi Grant :)

I would read up on the difference between Inorganic-Sulphur /
Organic-Sulpher. I don't believe the body can
utilise Inorganic-Sulpher, but The Organic version is readaly usable by
the body, because a plant has attached it to a organic molecule chain.  The
stuff comming out of your well is probly not doing you any more good, than
all the Inorganic Iron comming out of ours, but dammit, it sure tastes
like crap !

Regards,
Al

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To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: CSSulphur


 You know:
   I have been reading for   eons  now that sulphur is beneficial.
   However I happen to be on well water which isvery high
   in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
  perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
   Any  opinions ??
 Grant..


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Re: CSColloids

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

 One must make a distinction between organic soil and mineral soil.
Most organic growers will till crushed rock dust into their organic soil to
supply minerals.
The idea of a shortage of minerals in  mineral soil is , to me, ridiculous.
 Of course different areas have different minerals in different proportions
and always have.
and maybe volcanos etc do help refresh the soil world wide with foreign
minerals. [most of it winds up at the poles]
 We are presently in the middle of the highest volcanic activity period in
centuries.
 BTW  A forest fire distributes minerals too. Seen any lately?

 I've heard over and over that, mineral wise, our plants today are
different from the plants that our great grandparents ate.
 But I have not seen any comparitive analysis of the old plants to prove
it..nor did our great grandparents live longer and their ability to grow
healthy crops wasn't greater.
 I hear over and over that cancer rates are higher now than 100 years ago.
In what age group? At what diagnosis level?  100 years ago, really old
people were rare and most who died at any age never saw a doctor...and the
doctors they did see couldn't diagnose diddily squat in comparison.
For instance:  TB along with just about any other lung ailment was known as
consumption and Arizona was the cure.

Ode

At 02:11 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
What does everyone think of the articles on colloidal minerals here?

http://members.tripod.com/~Northup_Farms/Colloids.htm

Marshall


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Re: CSNew Member has questions?

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

  Hiya Kortron!

Ode

At 02:48 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi folks: New here. But I'd like to ask a question or two. Whos knows the
do's and don'ts about zapping with a pacemaker in? I've got one and feel a
need to zap.

Also what's the recipe mix to nebulize cs into your lungs? Thanks in
advance.

 Walt



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Re: CS

2003-11-12 Thread Ode Coyote

The standard is that the content must be better than stated.
Most .999 silver assays out to .9997

There's very little difference.
Like in racing, removing the first 100 pounds of weight costs $100, every 'ounce' after that costs another $100.

ode

At 04:37 PM 11/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: 

mr. beland,
  
what do you get when you divide 99.9 (thee nines) by 99.99 (four nines)? and technically 99.9 (three nines) can be anything from 99.90 to 99.91 to 99.2 ..up to 99.98.  that's less than 1%
  
by the way, still drinking prill. have you tested you prill for ph?
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To: mailto:bober...@swbell.net>bober...@swbell.net ; mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: CS>


WHY???  Would anyone use something that is, by definition, only one tenth as pure, to put into their bodies?
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
http://www.atlasnova.com>www.atlasnova.com
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
http://www.atlasnova.com>www.atlasnova.com
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From: mailto:bober...@swbell.net>Robert Berger 
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>


WHY???  three nines works perfectly !! 
ole Bob 

BioSil wrote: 
I'm researching four nine silver suppliers.   Please help me with sources you can recommend. Many thanks!
  


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Re: CSRaw Eggs and Salmonella

2003-11-12 Thread Dean Miller
Hi Kathleen,

I agree with everything you've said.  We also have free-range chickens
(and some turkeys and ducks).  Cracked the corn ourselves (my neighbor
happens to grow some -- I live amid large farms and the closest house
is 1/2 mile away with farm fields between).

Within 10 miles are large turkey factories, and a little farther are
some egg factories.  That's where store-bought eggs (and turkeys) come
from.  The conditions aren't good (they're clean, but unhealthy for
the animals).

But even those eggs are better for us carnivores than just about any
other food.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:27:01 -0500, k borys li...@lycos.com wrote:

Well I have been lurking here for a week or so now and learning much, thank 
you all, however, eggs, eggs I know.

I raise chickens just for eggs and have for 11 years now. My girls as I like 
to call them, are free range happy healthy girls. I feed table scraps, cracked 
corn grown locally and the rest they get from the earth as is intended. 

I feed my Scotties whole raw eggs several times a week and our cats as well. 
They all love the eggs. No one has every become sick from our eggs. I do eat a 
raw egg about once a week myself whipped in a glass of milk. Have been doing 
this for years and not dead yet or been sick. I think much of the salmonella 
scare is just that scare tactics. The following link has good info on eating 
raw eggs.
http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm

Now more on eggs. First organic I have come to learn is not necessarily from 
happy, healthy, free range chickens. All it means is the chickens are fed 
organic feed. Well imho so what.

The egg is mother natures most perfect food. Basically a chicken roams and 
eats all kinds of bugs, plants, earth, worms and on. Her body spends much of 
its time taking what she eats and making anti bodies to almost every virus, 
bacteria out there. This is done in preparation of producing a healthy 
offspring. There is a company which has spent major $$$ doing research on this 
very thought to create a product to boost immunity. But really the pure egg 
offers so much to our health. 

Oh and the salmonella is usually from the shell which was not washed well or 
so they say. I do know farmers who just use a fine piece of sandpaper to clean 
off the shell.

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Re: CSDMSO transport properties

2003-11-12 Thread Rowena Evans
What!  What did Customs think it was, I wonder.
What about New Zealand?  I suppose they search mail from there too.
Did you complain?  How did you find out they had kept it?
Maybe they kept it to cure their sniffer dogs.They must find it hard to buy 
the stuff,too! Seriously though, did you getany explanation as to why it was 
prohibited?  Did you mention it to your MP?
  Hanneke wrote: 
  Sorry Rowena, we are not able to obtain DMSO in Australia. A friend sent me a 
bottle from USA around April and it was taken in by customs. 

Re: CSAllergic to CS?

2003-11-12 Thread colloidal . silver
:)
Yes it's very tough sorting through it, but it sure helps if you can find a
MD who's at least a little open minded...

:)
Al
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSAllergic to CS?


 Husband of friend here had big scare, v aggressive kidney cancer of a
 type caused by petrochemicals (worked for years in garage, forecourt
 also).  Has done well (is also taking CS and H2O2).  Went for checkup.
 Specialist said he would not consider any information gathered from
 the Internet.  Wife said she had questions to ask, and needed answers.
 Well, where is she supposed to get information?  Sorry Drs, you
 believe what you were taught, as you should be able to, but who is
 really
 pulling the strings?

 On the other hand, so many Drs are open to less pharmaceutical
 solutions and tending to more natural or safe methods.

 So much to learn, life so short, vested interests so aggressive.

 Rowena

 level of
  biological stealth ! You will have to be very agressive about
 demanding that
  level of medical compitence. It will not ever be readilly offered to
 you.
  Md's are no longer held to their medical
  oaths, only their credits  debits. If your a MD reading this, then
 sorry,
  but take a good long look in the mirror, because your arrogant creed
 has
  legally murdered quite a few of my kin.
  I considder the great majority of them to be both money gluttons,
 and
  absolute unadultrated cowards. They know quite well, what they are
 doing,
  and don't give even a little bit of a damn about it.
 


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Re: CSStone Deodorant

2003-11-12 Thread Rowena Evans
-I simply spray the tops of them with my colloidal silver before each use. why 
not pull those stones out of your bathroom cupboard and give this method a try. 

I guess because of the alum / aluminium content
Rowena

CSBrewing up a new generator

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hello Mike and Members of the List!

If you are going to use two co-cathodes anyway, you might as
well switch between them. This can be done by a custom
modification of the AC full-wave rectifier circuit. The advantage
is that it should produce a new way of mixing, electrical agitation
of the charged particles in transit through the liquid. The power
source to the modified full-wave rectification can be whatever
AC voltage is desired from the wide variety of  wallwarts
available. The rectifier circuit can be breadboarded using a
general-purpose diode like the 1N4002. Four will be need
unless two LM334Z devices are used for a dual purpose as
rectifiers as well as current limiters.

The added insulation can be avoided by simply mounting the
coin so its perforated edge is above the water surface. Problems of variable 
contact resistance between coin and hook
have not occurred in my experience, but might be avoided by the
use of LM334Z's in the unlikely case it does occur.

Sophisticated timing can be done with the newer types of
Christmas light controllers. I just bought one at Lowes for about
seventeen dollars. It is a Timex  7 day timer that can hold
20 different switching schedules.

Whether your specifications can be met remains to be seen
through experiments. Mixing by electronic agitation may not be
strong enough by itself. Thermal mixing is axial and vertical.
Rotomechanical mixing is horizontal and tangential. Electrical
agitation is horizontal and parallelogram-zigzag, depending on
placement of electrodes. Maybe some combination of mixing
methods is for the best.

Best regards, and Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Matthew

RE: CSRaw Eggs and Salmonella

2003-11-12 Thread daddybob
I know what salmonella is like up close and personal
after my wife had a near hospitalization from it 6
years ago, so I know the signs to look for.

I've eaten raw organic eggs from time to time. I
notice an almost immediate nasal passage drying
effect, sometimes to the point of discomfort. Has
anyone else had this effect?

DB

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CSYeast Infection

2003-11-12 Thread Rob Combis
Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?  If so 
what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For how long? 
 I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she was willing to 
try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to do...Thanks...

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: CSNew Member has questions?




  Hiya Kortron!

Ode

At 02:48 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Hi folks: New here. But I'd like to ask a question or two. Whos knows 
the
do's and don'ts about zapping with a pacemaker in? I've got one and 
feel a
need to zap.

Also what's the recipe mix to nebulize cs into your lungs? Thanks in
advance.

 Walt



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Re: CSSulphur/filter

2003-11-12 Thread TJ Garland
I sprayed my well water into the top of a 2500 gallon plastic tank, using a 
deep well solar pump. This eleminated the sulfur. The spray went into a a 
50/50 cotton polyester filter sandwiched between two 5 gallon buckets. This 
quilt batting filter removed the iron. The bucket was hanging in the opening 
of the tank. I added a gallon of Cs to the tank every month and had clean, 
pure, good tasting water. I then used a 24v RV pump to charge a standard 
pressure tank to feed the house. Worked like a charm for years.




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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSulphur
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:44:15 -0500

Easy solution to both the hydrogen sulfide and the iron is the McClean chem
free iron filter. I have been using one for years and it works great!  No 
media
to replace either unless your water is acid, then all that needs replacing 
is

the nutralizer.

Marshall

colloidal.sil...@cox.net wrote:

 Hi Grant :)

 I would read up on the difference between Inorganic-Sulphur /
 Organic-Sulpher. I don't believe the body can
 utilise Inorganic-Sulpher, but The Organic version is readaly usable 
by
 the body, because a plant has attached it to a organic molecule chain.  
The
 stuff comming out of your well is probly not doing you any more good, 
than

 all the Inorganic Iron comming out of ours, but dammit, it sure tastes
 like crap !

 Regards,
 Al

 - Original Message -
 From: Grant nes...@shaw.ca
 To: Silver - List silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 10:06 PM
 Subject: CSSulphur

  You know:
I have been reading for   eons  now that sulphur is 
beneficial.

However I happen to be on well water which isvery high
in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur 
is

   perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
Any  opinions ??
  Grant..
 
 
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Re: CSColloids

2003-11-12 Thread TJ Garland
Marshall, from years of use and advice-I believe that there is NOTHING 
better than Superfood from American Botannicals in Ca.  www.800herbdoc




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From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColloids
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:11:14 -0500

What does everyone think of the articles on colloidal minerals here?

http://members.tripod.com/~Northup_Farms/Colloids.htm

Marshall


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Re: CSYeast Infection

2003-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
 Rob,
   I know of a treatment that I have heard of working in many cases.  I
 personally know several of them and have been told by reliable sources of
 others. It gets off topic for CS.  If you would like any info on it, send me
 your email address.  

Hey, Bob! Let me be the one who jumps in here (first) to ask you to go 
ahead and post the info here. If the discussion stays OT and tries to 
drag on more than a few more posts *then* we'll take it to the OT list 
or off-line.

I learned long ago that we should just go ahead and answer the 
question, even if the information involved doesn't deal with CS. By the 
time 5 other folks chime in with me too! posts, you won't have saved 
any bandwidth. Lengthy or more detailed discussions can be carried out 
elsewhere.

Be well,

Mike D.
da listowner guy

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RE: CS.9999 fine silver wire, etc.

2003-11-12 Thread Cliff
I still don't know if it is US  or Canadian money.
 
-Original Message-
From: Cliff [mailto:ch...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS. fine silver wire, etc.
 
Are we talking American or Canadian? I am in Canada.
 
-Original Message-
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS. fine silver wire, etc.
 
  I have bought wire- 14 guage-- from this company.  It is CCSG Inc.
and the web site is at www.ccsilver.com   and I was thoroughly satisfied
with their service and the product seems to be exactly what it says.  It
cost $2.95 per foot for the . Super fine round.  This company was
recommended to me by a person on this list or some other--I forget
which.  I got 7 feet in order to get a better deal on shipping.  Total
was $26.65
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Re: CSBrewing up a new generator...

2003-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi Trem,

You write:
 The first thing that comes to mind is that you don't want buildup on the
 cathode(s).  The easiest way to prevent that is to use polarity reversal.  I
 use 30 second periods with our SG7 but arrived at that number empirically
 and of course I'm using very close electrode spacing (1/2 inch) and vigorous
 water circulation so I haven't a clue what time period to use with no
 circulation.  Reversing polarity will give you some stirring effect in dead
 water so you will get double benefit that way.

One list member replied privately that the cathodes seem to stay clean 
at these low currents, at least for a good while. I'll have to see how 
it goes. Worst case is they do need 'dusting off' from time to time.

Reversing them once in a while to clean them off would work, and add 
the stirring effect you mention. Keep the duty cycle low enough and the 
wires really wouldn't contribute much to the brew and would last 
forever. It'd grossly complicate the circuitry, however, which right 
now consists of one componant besides the battery.  

 Of course you'll need to use a different cathode setup and increase the
 surface area.  Why not use three coins?  They are pretty inexpensive.

Yeah, a Silver Eagle is just a bit over the spot price usually. I 
recall this one being somewhere around 4-6 bucks, and, of course, 
should last about 3 lifetimes.

 Are you planning to use a series resistor for current limiting or an actual
 regulator?

I'm using current limiting diodes as recommended by Steve here:

 http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m54654.html

Bought some from Mouser Electronics. Cute little beastie!

I'm waiting for Ole Bob to chime in. I vaguely recall something he 
brought up about dissimilar electrode areas a while ago... Have to go 
try to dig it out of the archives.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS

2003-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
  Either one is fine. Nudge, nudge, know what I mean?

 But one is finer.  Nudge, nudge, say no more 

Ahh, splendid! Another Monty Python fan! SMILE

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RE: CS

2003-11-12 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Arnold,
Please elaborate on your ideas? Where are these poison metals coming from?
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr[Richard Harris]  FL Pharmacist
From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@amerion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:45 PM
To: bober...@swbell.net; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS


  Yes, of course, with 3 nines you will get ten times as much Boron,
Cadmuim, Lead, Tellurium etc.  I know that Lead is good for curing excess
intelligence, but what will the other elements do for you?
  Best Regards,
  Arnold Beland
  www.atlasnova.com
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS


WHY???  three nines works perfectly !!
ole Bob
BioSil wrote:

  I'm researching four nine silver suppliers.   Please help me with
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CSmeasurements using salt test(s)

2003-11-12 Thread Matthew McCann PE
Hello James:

I'll be sending you your copy today of thomas' chapter on the precipitation of
colloids by electrolytes. No charge. Please share it with others. I will use the
ZIP code 87562.

Freundlich's assay method will require some gravimetric apparatus as a
primary standard. I will probably be buying a small twin-beam balance for
my own use, even though I do have access to an analytical balance. I want
to gain experience with less expensive apparatus. I have had good results
with patronizing American Science and Surplus in Illinois.  They have
catered to small-purchasers, amateur experimenters, home-schoolers,
etc., for many decades. They are selling miniature twin-beam balances for
$35 and $13. Another possible good deal is from Deutche Optik in San
Diego CA. They are advertising an Army Medical Balance from eastern
europe for $199. But that is a bit out of my price range.

I followed David's recommendation and looked into water softening KCl
at Lowe's. Forty pounds costs less than $9 - and this would probably
supply the whole world for purposes of Freundlich's assay! I think Lowe's
sells broken bags for half off. But only one or two chunks should do for
a long, long time.

After I get some experience with NaCl and KCl, I may try potassium iodide.
KI is readily available in pre-measured tablets nowadays. It may make a
good comparison with KCl.

Best wishes,

Matthew

Re: CSEpstein-Barr virus and CS?(Plus Coxsckie, Candida and Interro)

2003-11-12 Thread Val Morten
will the silver kill the ebv,hhv6,5,coxscke?
how many ppm, how long do i take


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Re: CSSulphur

2003-11-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
McClean chemfree iron/sulfur filter.

Marshall

Grant wrote:

 I believe it's Hydrogen Sulphide.. Rotten egg smell..For drinking I
 bubble Ozone through it a couple
 gallons at a time.. Bubble for about  an hour.. Absolutely no smell or
 taste after that, although I think
 the sulphur would still be in the water, just not dectable by taste or
 smell?? How are you removing
 it from yours.??
  Grant..

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

 What form is the sulfur in?  If it is hydrogen sulfide, which smells like
 rotten eggs, then that is pretty poisonous.
 
 The well up at our ranch has loads of iron and sulfur.  Found a way to take
 them both out that works extremely well if you are interested, and increases
 the pH to slightly above 7  from around 3 or 4.
 
 Grant wrote:
 
 
 
 You know:
   I have been reading for   eons  now that sulphur is beneficial.
   However I happen to be on well water which isvery high
   in sulphur...   I drink it every day, and wonder if  the Sulphur is
  perhaps  depleting something  in my body ??
   Any  opinions ??
 Grant..
 
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Re: CS.9999 fine silver wire, etc.

2003-11-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am surprised by your question.  Are Canadians not Americans also?

Marshall

Cliff wrote:

 Are we talking American or Canadian? I am in Canada.

 -Original Message-
 From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:29 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CS. fine silver wire, etc.

   I have bought wire- 14 guage-- from this company.  It is CCSG Inc.
 and the web site is at www.ccsilver.com   and I was thoroughly
 satisfied with their service and the product seems to be exactly what
 it says.  It cost $2.95 per foot for the . Super fine round.  This
 company was recommended to me by a person on this list or some
 other--I forget which.  I got 7 feet in order to get a better deal on
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Re: CSSulphur Water

2003-11-12 Thread Marshall Dudley
http://www.macclean.com/
http://www.macclean.com/chem-free.htm

I got mine from Grainger.

Marshall

Grant wrote:

 Marshall:
  What,  how  where info.  etc.??
   Tks.. Grant..

 McClean chemfree iron/sulfur filter.

 Marshall

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Re: CSYeast Infection

2003-11-12 Thread bob smith
Rob,
  I know of a treatment that I have heard of working in many cases.  I
personally know several of them and have been told by reliable sources of
others. It gets off topic for CS.  If you would like any info on it, send me
your email address.  Bob Smith  rresm...@comcast.net



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Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: CSYeast Infection


 Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?
If so what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For
how long?  I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she
was willing to try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to
do...Thanks...

 -Original Message-
 From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]
 Sent: Sun 10/12/2003 8:20 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Cc:
 Subject: Re: CSNew Member has questions?




   Hiya Kortron!

 Ode

 At 02:48 PM 11/11/2003 -0500, you wrote:
 Hi folks: New here. But I'd like to ask a question or two. Whos knows the
 do's and don'ts about zapping with a pacemaker in? I've got one and feel
a
 need to zap.
 
 Also what's the recipe mix to nebulize cs into your lungs? Thanks in
 advance.
 
  Walt
 
 
 
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Re: CS

2003-11-12 Thread Arnold Beland
Hi Richard,

Let me have your address and I will send you a copy of the assay certificate 
that accompanies my .  The poisonous metals are part of the silver ore as 
it comes out of the ground.  What these elements are and their relative 
proportions vary with location.  I have not stated that using 999 is 
necessarily dangerous.  If I only had access to 999 I would certainly use it to 
keep my sinuses from becoming infected, which is how I come across CS in the 
first place.  I just snort the stuff.  I have read of people here that drink a 
gallon a day and some are actually talking about injecting it (shudder).  The 
figure of 10ppm has been mentioned as the factor to calculate the resultant 
impurities in ppb.  Well, that might be OK for the ionic silver portion, but 
says nothing about the actual colloidal (particulate) portion.  The fact is, 
without access to an atomic absorption spectrophotometer and a particle size 
analyzer, we really don't have a clue.  This is the case even if we use current 
limiting and most people are still using the old 3 nine volt battery 
uncontrolled method which is a real crap shoot.  I am not trying to scare 
anyone. This thread came about because the original poster, a lady, asked where 
she could buy some 999 and ole Bob jumped on her in caps.  It being Veteran's 
day and being a couple of Crown Royals down, feeling quixotic, I put on my 
armor and road out to defend her.  That is my story and I'm sticking to it.  Of 
course, you never know, perhaps I was just trying to grub another sheckle.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Harris 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Richard Harris 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:38 AM
  Subject: RE: CS


  Hi Arnold,
  Please elaborate on your ideas? Where are these poison metals coming from?
  Sincerely,
  Richard Harris, 56 yr[Richard Harris]  FL Pharmacist 
  From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@amerion.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:45 PM
  To: bober...@swbell.net; silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS


Yes, of course, with 3 nines you will get ten times as much Boron, Cadmuim, 
Lead, Tellurium etc.  I know that Lead is good for curing excess intelligence, 
but what will the other elements do for you?
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
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  From: Robert Berger 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:58 AM
  Subject: Re: CS


  WHY???  three nines works perfectly !! 
  ole Bob 
  BioSil wrote: 

I'm researching four nine silver suppliers.   Please help me with 
sources you can recommend. Many thanks!


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CSSulphur Water

2003-11-12 Thread Grant

Marshall:
What,  how  where info.  etc.??
 Tks.. Grant..


McClean chemfree iron/sulfur filter.

Marshall



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Re: CS Whoops

2003-11-12 Thread Arnold Beland
asked where she could buy some 999 and ole Bob jumped
should be:
asked where she could buy some  and ole Bob jumped 
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
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  From: Arnold Beland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: Richard Harris 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CS


  Hi Richard,

  Let me have your address and I will send you a copy of the assay certificate 
that accompanies my .  The poisonous metals are part of the silver ore as 
it comes out of the ground.  What these elements are and their relative 
proportions vary with location.  I have not stated that using 999 is 
necessarily dangerous.  If I only had access to 999 I would certainly use it to 
keep my sinuses from becoming infected, which is how I come across CS in the 
first place.  I just snort the stuff.  I have read of people here that drink a 
gallon a day and some are actually talking about injecting it (shudder).  The 
figure of 10ppm has been mentioned as the factor to calculate the resultant 
impurities in ppb.  Well, that might be OK for the ionic silver portion, but 
says nothing about the actual colloidal (particulate) portion.  The fact is, 
without access to an atomic absorption spectrophotometer and a particle size 
analyzer, we really don't have a clue.  This is the case even if we use current 
limiting and most people are still using the old 3 nine volt battery 
uncontrolled method which is a real crap shoot.  I am not trying to scare 
anyone. This thread came about because the original poster, a lady, asked where 
she could buy some 999 and ole Bob jumped on her in caps.  It being Veteran's 
day and being a couple of Crown Royals down, feeling quixotic, I put on my 
armor and road out to defend her.  That is my story and I'm sticking to it.  Of 
course, you never know, perhaps I was just trying to grub another sheckle.
  Best Regards,
  Arnold Beland
  www.atlasnova.com
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From: Richard Harris 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Cc: Richard Harris 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: CS


Hi Arnold,
Please elaborate on your ideas? Where are these poison metals coming from?
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr[Richard Harris]  FL Pharmacist 
From: Arnold Beland [mailto:abela...@amerion.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:45 PM
To: bober...@swbell.net; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS


  Yes, of course, with 3 nines you will get ten times as much Boron, 
Cadmuim, Lead, Tellurium etc.  I know that Lead is good for curing excess 
intelligence, but what will the other elements do for you?
  Best Regards,
  Arnold Beland
  www.atlasnova.com
- Original Message - 
From: Robert Berger 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS


WHY???  three nines works perfectly !! 
ole Bob 
BioSil wrote: 

  I'm researching four nine silver suppliers.   Please help me with 
sources you can recommend. Many thanks!


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CSCompiling a bg file on CS use and Testimonials. Please help.

2003-11-12 Thread walt
HI folks: Anyone using CS send me your testimonials please. I'm compiling a
ledger of uses and cures. How you got around the system to get yourself
cured all valid info.Please share and send. Thanks Walt



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CSfine silver wire price

2003-11-12 Thread Shirley Reed
   Sorry to be slow in replying, but the price is in US dollars.   


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CSBrewing up a new generator...

2003-11-12 Thread Trem
Hi Mike,

The first thing that comes to mind is that you don't want buildup on the
cathode(s).  The easiest way to prevent that is to use polarity reversal.  I
use 30 second periods with our SG7 but arrived at that number empirically
and of course I'm using very close electrode spacing (1/2 inch) and vigorous
water circulation so I haven't a clue what time period to use with no
circulation.  Reversing polarity will give you some stirring effect in dead
water so you will get double benefit that way.

Of course you'll need to use a different cathode setup and increase the
surface area.  Why not use three coins?  The are pretty inexpensive.

Are you planning to use a series resistor for current limiting or an actual
regulator?

Trem

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Subject: [silver_list] CSBrewing up a new generator...


 Hi all,

 I'd appreciate if those of you who feel qualified would check my math
 and offer your comments on what I'm proposing to build. Ole Bob? Trem?
 Ken? Anybody?

 I'm aiming for a design that will...

 1) Make a quart (liter) of CS overnight, unattended,

 2) Eliminate all mechanical or thermal stirring,

 3) Avoid build-up on the electrodes.

 I've attached a simple sketch of the electrode arrangement I'm thinking
 about.

 For the anode I'll drill a hole in the edge of a 1 oz .999 silver coin
 and hang it from a small hook bent in the end of a piece of 12 ga
 silver wire, then crimped.

 The wire will be insulated with spaghetti tubing and the immediate area
 of the hook painted with clear nail polish or the like to avoid non-
 uniformities in the electric field and to keep the wire from eroding.

 I'm thinking about 2 cathodes, one on each side of the coin, made from
 more 12 ga silver wire with all but the bottom 2 or 3 mm of their
 length also covered by insulation. The exposed portion of each cathode
 would be a bit more than the radius of the coin away from each side and
 alligned approximately with the center of the coin.

 Anode surface area:

 diameter:   39 mm
 face area:   2389 mm^2  (includes both sides)

 thickness:  2 mm
 edge area:  245 mm^2

 total area:   2634 mm^2

 Electrical parameters:

 max cell voltage:  9V
 max cell current:  .75 ma (current limited)
 max current density:  0.284 ua/mm2or   183 ua/sq.in.

 Faraday calculations predict approximately 3 ppm per hour into a liter
 of water.

 What will be the quality or character of the CS? What are the
 consequences of the low current density, the ratio of anode to cathode
 surface area, and the lack of stirring?

 Thoughts and suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Mike D.

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Re: CSBrewing up a new generator...

2003-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Bob writes:
 Disimiliar electrodes are NOT for polarity switching, but work very well in 
 any
 other arrangement, so long as the non silver electrode is the negative 
 (cathode)
 electrode.

Hi Bob. I'm using silver for the cathodes too for simplicity's sake, 
and since I've got plenty of the wire on hand. What's different is the 
surface area of each. The coin I'm using for the anode has many times 
more surface area than the combined cathodes.

See the attached sketch of the electrode arrangement.

I'm not planning to use polarity reversal on this setup except possibly 
intermittently as a trick to keep the cathodes clean or to stir up the 
ion clouds. What I'm really hoping is that simple diffusion and 
convection will be enough to accomplish that.

Current density will be around 200uA/sq.in. at the anode, at the 
cathodes about a hundred times more. (Not taking into account edge 
effects or other field distortions.)

Wasn't there some strangeness we talked about a year or two ago about 
the effects of differing surface area?

FYI, my first post in this thread is here:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m64555.html

Thank you sir!

Be well,

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CSRe: Amaranth tea

2003-11-12 Thread M. G. Devour
Daddybob posted a question on this earlier today, as well as 
yesterday on the OT list. I answered on the OT list and will post this 
to both places so future archive miners can see the results...

Daddybob writes:
 Thanks Mike-
 I haven't joined the OT list but I lurk there and
 found your reply.

Actually, if you're on the silver list you don't have to join (ie. 
subscribe) to the OT list to post to it, as you discovered. You're a 
member whether you want to be or not! grin

 She thinks it helped her. She's made about 8 cups since yesterday
 morning. She can't be terribly sure yet because she had a really awful
 stress situation to arise at work- she had to fire someone- and she had
 a very bad headache from all of it. 

Don't know about its effects on headaches, but both daughter and wife 
report relief from cramps and bloating.

Neither has needed more than a few cups per period, so she might cut 
back to a few cups a day and see what effect it has on the duration and 
volume of flow. Neither you nor I have any clue how much amaranth is 
too much, so play it by ear.

 She likes your idea of a tea ball and combining it with other tea. 

Yes, it's much easier not having to strain out the seeds. 

I was originally concerned the taste might be off-putting to my 
daughter, not that it *has* much taste after all. That gave me the idea 
of adding a regular tea bag and some honey to the brew cup.

I like your idea of eating it with butter and a dash of salt! grin

 It will take a few periods to be sure, but it's the first thing that
 she has EVER spoken positively about in this regard. 

We both owe thanks to Brooks Bradley who first posted this information 
to the silver-list. The use of amaranth for menstrual issues is in the 
herbal apothecary, it turns out, but I'd never have known to try it if 
somebody didn't point it out to us.

Amaranth is definitely on my top-10 list of alternative treatments!

 BTW- 
 I found it first at:
 http://www.flax4u.com/
 I found it cheap at:
 http://www.barryfarm.com/Grains.htm

I get it from a small spice shop in the area. Comes in a little bag. 
Looks just like couscous. grin

 Thanks a lot for sharing this. Please post this to wherever you wish so
 others may be helped. 

 Daddybob

I'm glad you asked and grateful you've posted your preliminary results. 
Let us know the long-term results, please.

Be well!

Mike D.

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CSRe: 99.9 silver

2003-11-12 Thread silversurfer1952 .
From what I remember of my math classes, 99.90 , technically, can be 

anything from 99.85 to 99.94.  That's more than 1%, silly.

Elle


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  what do you get when you divide 99.9 (thee nines) by 99.99 (four nines)? 
and technically 99.9 (three nines) can be anything from 99.90 to 99.91 to 
99.2 ..up to 99.98.  that's less than 1%


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CSh202,msm,dmso cs

2003-11-12 Thread Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there Mr. Harris and All,  I understood [mis?]   that I had missed a 
formula for the above mentioned substances that was effective?  Was I 
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CSRe: 99.9 silver

2003-11-12 Thread silversurfer1952 .
Oops, Did I forget to put in the decimal point?  blush  That should have 
read: more than .1%


Elle


From what I remember of my math classes, 99.90 , technically, can be
anything from 99.85 to 99.94.  That's more than 1%, silly.

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Re: CSBrewing up a new generator...

2003-11-12 Thread Robert Berger
Mike,

Disimiliar electrodes are NOT for polarity switching, but work very well in any
other arrangement, so long as the non silver electrode is the negative (cathode)
electrode.

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Re: CSRe: 99.9 silver

2003-11-12 Thread Rich Adams
- Original Message - 


 From what I remember of my math classes, 99.90 , technically, can be 
 anything from 99.85 to 99.94. 

I don't think 99.9 can be technically 99.85 at anytime in math.

Maybe in other stuff.

Respectfully,
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CSYeast Infection

2003-11-12 Thread Alene Brandt
Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?  If so 
what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For how long? 
 I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she was willing to 
try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to do...Thanks...

I used a bulb-type - (holds about 3/4 pint).  Filled it with half CS and half 
water, and douched. - Did this once before bed and again the next morning.  
Poof, gone.  I still can't believe it !

Re: CSRe: 99.9 silver

2003-11-12 Thread silversurfer1952 .

Hi Rich,

In math, when you round off decimals you would write 99.85 (for example) 
as 99.9   But,  99.84 would be rounded off to 99.8


Rounding off is not used for accuracy, however.  I found this link for 
you... http://www.math.com/school/subject1/lessons/S1U1L3GL.html


Elle



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I don't think 99.9 can be technically 99.85 at anytime in math.

Maybe in other stuff.

Respectfully,
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CSRe: h202,msm,dmso cs

2003-11-12 Thread silversurfer1952 .

Hi Linda,

Is this the post you are thinking about?

Elle

From: Linda Kaye Coombs
Hi there Mr. Harris and All,  I understood [mis?]   that I had missed a
formula for the above mentioned substances that was effective?  Was I
dreaming [again] ?

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RE: CSFwd: CS  DMSO

From: Richard Harris (view other messages by this author)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:36:40

Hi Garnet,
Sorry to hear about your problems. If I had the same problems, I would add a
teaspoonful H2O2 3% to a qt of CS (10-20 ppm)--take 4 oz of this and
dissolve as much MSM powder as possible (making a Saturated Sol.) then to
this 4 +oz mixture, I'd add 1 oz DMSO (99.9%) and apply that as a wet
dressing for 30 minutes if possible 3 times a day. I believe that might
help.

Also, see my reply to STUFF that I just sent about DMSO. Always dilute 99.9%
DMSO down to 70% or start with 1/2 distilled water  1/2 DMSO if user has
real sensitive skin. Always add the DMSO to the water--NOT the water to the
DMSO as it get hot when you mix it.

Best regards,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

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Re: CSRe: 99.9 silver

2003-11-12 Thread Acmeair
if i remember correctly, when it comes to purity of metals, you can round
down but not up. silver that assays out at 99.96 is three nines, not four
nines. and as someone mentioned here, 99.9 silver is usually 99.96 or so.
not absolutely positive, but do believe this to be correct.

jim

- Original Message - 
From: silversurfer1952 . silversurfer1...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: 99.9 silver


 Hi Rich,

 In math, when you round off decimals you would write 99.85 (for example)
 as 99.9   But,  99.84 would be rounded off to 99.8

 Rounding off is not used for accuracy, however.  I found this link for
 you... http://www.math.com/school/subject1/lessons/S1U1L3GL.html

 Elle


 From: Rich Adams r...@kc.rr.com
 
 I don't think 99.9 can be technically 99.85 at anytime in math.
 
 Maybe in other stuff.
 
 Respectfully,
 Rich Adams

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RE: CSYeast Infection

2003-11-12 Thread Richard Harris
Congratulations Alene!
You solved the problem! I urge everyone with any type problem to read,
listen, think--then act to follow-up on the info learned. This translates
into using harmless CS in as many ways as possible that could help: Orally,
topically, nose, ear or eye mist or drops; enema, or douche.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

If I can be of help, let me know.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  -Original Message-
  From: Alene Brandt [mailto:thr...@nbn.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:27 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSYeast Infection


  Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?
If so what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For
how long?  I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she
was willing to try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to
do...Thanks...

  I used a bulb-type - (holds about 3/4 pint).  Filled it with half CS and
half water, and douched. - Did this once before bed and again the next
morning.  Poof, gone.  I still can't believe it !


Re: CS.9999 fine silver wire, etc.

2003-11-12 Thread Albert Peirce
Marshall, apparently you don't get the message. There is an exchange rate 
between U. S. and Canadian dollars, and there is a huge difference between 
US$2.95/foot and Cdn$2.95/foot. Not to mention the difficulty of cashing a 
check in one currency in the other country. Regards, Al...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:19 AM
  Subject: Re: CS. fine silver wire, etc.


  I am surprised by your question.  Are Canadians not Americans also? 
  Marshall 

  Cliff wrote: 

Are we talking American or Canadian? I am in Canada.

-Original Message- 
From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:29 PM 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS. fine silver wire, etc. 


  I have bought wire- 14 guage-- from this company.  It is CCSG Inc.  and 
the web site is at www.ccsilver.com   and I was thoroughly satisfied with their 
service and the product seems to be exactly what it says.  It cost $2.95 per 
foot for the . Super fine round.  This company was recommended to me by a 
person on this list or some other--I forget which.  I got 7 feet in order to 
get a better deal on shipping.  Total was $26.65



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RE: CSYeast Infection/UTI

2003-11-12 Thread TJ Garland
I am a 56 male and never had a bladder infection till two weeks ago. I used 
olive leaf extract, cranberry extract, echinacea tincture to no avail for 3 
days. At this time UTI discussion began here.  Soo- I opened up a new 30 
ml syringe- threw away the needle, and filled it with 20ml of 10ppm CS. I 
lay on the bed and injected it vertically into my urethea and bladder. Weird 
feeling!  I had the urge to pee for 6 hours but couldn't. Finally went. Woke 
up the next morning and the pain and urgency was gone- and still is. 
Possibly CS-possibly all four. One lesson of this- use all the alternative 
tools in the bag when sick.




TJ Garland, CMO supplier
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From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
CC: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
Subject: RE: CSYeast Infection
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:50:58 -0500

Congratulations Alene!
You solved the problem! I urge everyone with any type problem to read,
listen, think--then act to follow-up on the info learned. This translates
into using harmless CS in as many ways as possible that could help: Orally,
topically, nose, ear or eye mist or drops; enema, or douche.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

If I can be of help, let me know.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  -Original Message-
  From: Alene Brandt [mailto:thr...@nbn.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:27 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSYeast Infection


  Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?
If so what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For
how long?  I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she
was willing to try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to
do...Thanks...

  I used a bulb-type - (holds about 3/4 pint).  Filled it with half CS and
half water, and douched. - Did this once before bed and again the next
morning.  Poof, gone.  I still can't believe it !


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Re: CSDMSO transport properties

2003-11-12 Thread Roger Barker
on 12/11/2003 9:45 PM, Rowena Evans at rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 What!  What did Customs think it was, I wonder.
 What about New Zealand?  I suppose they search mail from there too.
 Did you complain?  How did you find out they had kept it?
 Maybe they kept it to cure their sniffer dogs.They must find it hard to
 buy the stuff,too! Seriously though, did you getany explanation as to why it
 was prohibited?  Did you mention it to your MP?
 Hanneke wrote: 
 Sorry Rowena, we are not able to obtain DMSO in Australia. A friend sent me a
 bottle from USA around April and it was taken in by customs.

I wonder if one of your local vets could help? My vet supplies all the DMSO
I want but it's very costly at around $85.0NZ for half a litre:-(


Cheers,  Roger
 Rotorua, New Zealand



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RE: CSYeast Infection/UTI

2003-11-12 Thread brooks . bradley
   Dear TJ,
 We developed a successful experimental protocol, several years ago,
designed specifically for address of UTI in males.  Interestingly, it is a
variation of the one you utilized.  The basic protocol required use of 20 ppm
CS (90% by volume) and full-strength DMSO (10% by volume)as the parent
mixture.  Although we did, in cases involving longer-standing insult, modify
the above by the addition of 2% strength Lidocaine (2% by volume) and a
reduction of the CSby a similar volume.  This modification afforded almost
total relief from discomfort caused by irritation of the epithelial
tissue---resulting from the mechanical insult of the protocol itself.
 Although we employed a special, hollow, Van Buren Curvefor our
experimental applications, your innovation should be quite effective.  I might
suggest that applying a proper-sized, rounded-tip, flexible plastic--or
surgical tubing section of approximately 1 to 1.25 long X 1/8
O.D..should make the irrigation somewhat easier to perform.  Placing this
on the tip of your syringe should improve the ease of your procedure.
 Additionally, by including the Lidocaine fragment, I believe you will
reduce the urination urgency by an order of magnitude.
 Sincerely,  Brooks.

  P.S.  Dr. Stanley Jacob, pioneered this type of procedure some 20 years
ago.only medium-strength (50%)DMSO was the primary component.  He has,  
since, modified the protocol to include additional medicantsbut the
essential remain.  As you probably are awareuse of DMSO as a urethral
irrigant, is the ONLY, currently approved, use of DMSO on humans. 
 I am a 56 male and never had a bladder infection till two weeks ago. I used 
 olive leaf extract, cranberry extract, echinacea tincture to no avail for 3 
 days. At this time UTI discussion began here.  Soo- I opened up a new 30 
 ml syringe- threw away the needle, and filled it with 20ml of 10ppm CS. I 
 lay on the bed and injected it vertically into my urethea and bladder. Weird 
 feeling!  I had the urge to pee for 6 hours but couldn't. Finally went. Woke 
 up the next morning and the pain and urgency was gone- and still is. 
 Possibly CS-possibly all four. One lesson of this- use all the alternative 
 tools in the bag when sick.
 
 
 
 TJ Garland, CMO supplier
there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 CC: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com
 Subject: RE: CSYeast Infection
 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:50:58 -0500
 
 Congratulations Alene!
 You solved the problem! I urge everyone with any type problem to read,
 listen, think--then act to follow-up on the info learned. This translates
 into using harmless CS in as many ways as possible that could help: Orally,
 topically, nose, ear or eye mist or drops; enema, or douche.
 
 Thanks for sharing your experience.
 
 If I can be of help, let me know.
 Sincerely,
 Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
-Original Message-
From: Alene Brandt [mailto:thr...@nbn.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSYeast Infection
 
 
Has anyone been successful in treating a female yeast infection with CS?
 If so what kind of treatment protocol?  And how to apply?   A dropper?  For
 how long?  I am trying to get as much info as possible.  A friend said she
 was willing to try it to combat a yeast infection and asked me what to
 do...Thanks...
 
I used a bulb-type - (holds about 3/4 pint).  Filled it with half CS and
 half water, and douched. - Did this once before bed and again the next
 morning.  Poof, gone.  I still can't believe it !
 
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CSFw: The Coming Currency Devaluation - a report

2003-11-12 Thread Jannette Abel

 
This is interesting!


  Subject: The Coming Currency Devaluation - a report
  Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:36:27 -0500


  Subject: THE COMING CURRENCY DEVALUATION

  The coming currency devaluation

  Cliff Droke

  After repeated warnings from currency analysts and market advisors
  (including yours truly) that the U.S. currency system is on the verge of
  becoming a blocked, two-tier system we now have confirmation that the
  country is one step closer to realizing this. When fully implemented, the
  new U.S. dollar will mean a banana republic type currency and
  across-the-board devaluation. 

  According to a CNN/Money news wire report of Oct. 7, the new U.S. $20
  bills will be released this week at banks across the country. Meanwhile,
  the Fed and its Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP) will hold a
  nationwide series of publicity events as part of a $33 million campaign
  to let the world know of the new bills and to acclimate the public to
  their strange new appearance.

  The new $20s are peach-toned with the presence of blue ink, making it the
  first time in almost 100 years that a mass-circulation U.S. note has
  prominently contained a color besides green and black. They also contain
  an embedded vertical plastic strip and color-shifting ink, whose
  appearance changes from copper to green as the bill is tilted against the
  light. Below is what the front of the new $20 bill looks like (from the
  BEP website).

  So what is the significance of this change of color in the U.S. $20 note?
  Well according to the Feds it is designed as a deterrent to stop
  counterfeiters. But accordingly to currency analyst Lawrence Patterson,
  who authored the 1994 monograph titled Currency Recall, which
  accurately forecast the new multi-colored notes, the new colored money is
  part of a two-tiered currency system that will have drastic implications
  for investors and non-investors alike here in the U.S.

  Patterson calls the new notes crayola currency and claims they will
  circulate domestically while the normal green currency that we've grown
  accustomed to will circulate offshore all over the globe. According to
  commentator Terry Savage, Two-thirds of the U.S. paper currency is
  circulating in foreign countries. With the coming two-tiered currency
  system, foreigners will continue to be allowed to use the greenback while
  U.S. citizens will be stuck with the crayola currency which cannot be
  exchanged.

  Patterson forecasts the coming use of foreign exchange controls for the
  U.S. dollar domestically, which would prohibit Americans from
  transferring capital to any other world currency. Again, this is
  discussed in Patterson's now-classic monograph Currency Recall (which
  I've read and highly recommend to students of currency policy and
  investors seeking to retain the value of their investments).

  Patterson states, I want every one...to think carefully about
  this...because we are coming very, very close to the end of the freely
  convertible domestic dollar. They cut in value could be as much as
  50%...I believe those holding gold bullion bars offshore and bullion
  coins domestically will be very surprised to find that special
  regulations will prohibit them from profiting.

  He further maintains that coin dealers are under a strict Treasury
  regulation and must report your sales of some coins but not others. The
  rule is as follows: Coins with a premium above 15% do not have to be
  reported. In addition to the 1099 report, filed by the coin dealer, you
  have to declare any capital gains as well.

  He continues, The existence of this rule, I believe, indicates an intent
  to outlaw the ownership of bullion coins altogether! However, the rule
  will not remain at 15% necessarily and could be changed to a higher
  percentage, which is unknown at this time. Obviously, you do not want to
  own any investment coins with a premium of 15% or less and better stay at
  the 25% or 30% level to be safe. Patterson points out that complications
  for the government would clearly arise should numismatic collectibles be
  forcibly confiscated since the bullion coins' value can be determined by
  the London gold fix, but not so for collectibles. The price of the
  collectible coin may or may not be easily determined as numismatic
  valuables are routinely auctioned off at prices of not only tens of
  thousands of dollars, but hundreds of thousands of dollars per item, he
  observes. It is difficult to imagine just how this would all be sorted
  out by the bureaucracy to come up with a calculation of compensation that
  would relate to the market value. He advises staying in the safe zone
  and exchanging bullion coins not needed for emergencies (such as food or
  gasoline shortages, et al) for numismatic coins with higher premiums.

  Obviously, the introduction of the new peach-colored $20 bill is a test
  on the American public to see how they respond to the drastic new
  

Re: CSDMSO in Australia and NZ

2003-11-12 Thread Rowena Evans
Roger
 Rotorua, New Zealand
My vet supplies all the DMSO
I want

Thanks.  Could check up on that.  What do they call it, DMSO or
something else?

It occurred to me that there must surely be some of the industrial
stuff around anyway.  Where might I start enquiring about that; what
sort of firm?

Rowena



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Re: CSStone Deodorant

2003-11-12 Thread Kimberly Sharples
When I was at the health store getting my stone, the lady told me there that 
sometimes you have to sand off the top layer periodicallly??? Also, look at the 
ingredients on them...some of them are only mineral salts...some of them have 
added alums, etc  I was surprised, but finally found one that was only 
mineral salts... I also use the CS under the arm too.
Kim
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rowena Evans 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:10 AM
  Subject: Re: CSStone Deodorant


  -I simply spray the tops of them with my colloidal silver before each use. 
why not pull those stones out of your bathroom cupboard and give this method a 
try. 

  I guess because of the alum / aluminium content
  Rowena

Re: CSDMSO in Australia and NZ

2003-11-12 Thread Roger Barker
Unfortunately I don't have the bottle my last order came in. I decanted half
and sent the rest to a friend up country. All I can say is that it was
labelled as DMSO (dimethyl sulfoxide) and came pre packaged from the UK.
Apparently my vet uses it in a teat treatment mixture on the local cows.

Hope this helps a little.

Cheers,  Roger



on 13/11/2003 6:56 PM, Rowena Evans at rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au wrote:

 Roger
 Rotorua, New Zealand
 My vet supplies all the DMSO
 I want
 
 Thanks.  Could check up on that.  What do they call it, DMSO or
 something else?
 
 It occurred to me that there must surely be some of the industrial
 stuff around anyway.  Where might I start enquiring about that; what
 sort of firm?
 
 Rowena
 
 
 
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Re: CSStone Deodorant

2003-11-12 Thread Rowena Evans

  When I was at the health store getting my stone, the lady told me there that 
sometimes you have to sand off the top layer periodicallly??? Also, look at the 
ingredients on them...some of them are only mineral salts...some of them have 
added alums, etc  I was surprised, but finally found one that was only 
mineral salts... I also use the CS under the arm too.
  Kim
I wonder what mineral salts?  I'm looking at Australian ones here.
Deonat says hypo allergenic, Natural body deodorant. No aluminium 
chlorohydrate.  etc etc
Freedom body says hypo-allergenic, all natural, fragrance free, ... film of 
natural minerals preventing bacteria from forming ... contains no aluminium 
chlorohydrate or aluminium chlorohydroxide
Eon: the natural crystal deodorant ... completely pure, natural mineral 
salt ...contains crystalised Pot Ash Alum

Sorry to be so wary of these manufacturers, but we have to take their word 
for it if they don't say exactly what mineral salts are in the product.  For 
instance, supposing someone said no Aluminium Chlorohydrate but it did have 
aluminium chlorohydroxide.  Okay, unlikely maybe, but there are people out 
there who will tell the truth with intent to deceive.  

What is Pot Ash Alum?  

Rowena

CSFwd: CS anectdotal evidence?

2003-11-12 Thread ESL555
 
---BeginMessage---
 I'm really frustrated. I have searched the net and found everything I could 
find on colloidal silver and all it's benefits and there is lots of great 
info. I am trying to prove to my father inlaw that the claims about cs are 
true. 
He says all you have is anecdotal evidence and no clinical proof. I tried to 
explain to him that the pharmaceutical companies won't pay millions for 
clinical trials for something they can't patent. He says he trusts what Dr Andy 
Weil 
says about cs and which is that there is no clinical proof that it works. I 
sent him the testimonies, UCLA tests and BYU tests but these were done in petri 
dishes and test tubes. Are there any cs clinical trials that have been done 
out there, maybe in Europe ? 
Thanks
Steve
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