Re: CSCancer therapies...
Christos! Welcome to the list, and thanks for contributing. I've heard of these and seen some information on their construction. But there are different types. What was the design that you used, and can you point me to instructions for it? This would be the sort of thing that falls in the it couldn't hurt to try it category, once we have them started on other protocols. I'm intrigued by the idea anyway, so maybe they'd try it as a favor to me. grin Thank you sir! Mike D. Mike, After one year I'm saying again that the use of orgone accumulator is the best solution along with other good things. Stimulating the total energy of the organism is the presupposition for everything else. O.A cured my TB 30 years ago in one month. Before that time I had the smart. idea that using orgone and orgone accumulator is totally ridiculous. Today I know hundreds - between them 5 cancers sufferers - who became healthy after the use of O.A. My best Christos Moussouliotis Greece [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Go to: www.realityzone.com and look for cancer therapies. Thanks Cliff! I've got it bookmarked. I'll obviously be going back there for some of their books. Be well, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSwilma and question to himagain: Mycoplasma
At 04:54 PM 07/02/05, you wrote: Mycoplasma is now classified as an acid fast bacterium. Years ago it was classified in the lmyphogranularium group because they couldn't decide whether it was a virus or a bacterium, having some qualities of both There is a STRONG body of evidence that suggests that what are being identified as mycoplasma is simply the fundamental metamorphosis - the holy grail of the true scientific micobiologist. That strange half-life that BECOMES all of the identities that we associate with diseases. Deep stuff. Many decades ago, while working as a Bacteriologist I discovered that many axioms of the trade weren't.. like pasteurisation. Those were weird times. I knew a fellow who only had to hold a danger-laden petrie dish on the flat of his hand for a minute or two and all of the colonies would regress almost visibly. But then again, I've been marvelling at the human power we call the placebo effect almost since I could properly think/observe. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Jason my friend, it's excellent that you rang in. I was going to ask you specifically for suggestions regarding clay for detox and anything else you had to suggest. Thank you. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS use in a CPAP machine
At 12:52 PM 1/17/05, you wrote: My husband uses a nighttime breathing assist called a CPAP machine (Constant Positive Air Pressure) which also has the option of using a thermally-controlled humidifier to add moisture to the air as its pressurized to his mask. We were wondering if anyone has tried CS in a CPAP machine beforewe kind of think the possibility of fungus in the warm moist environment is real we were wondering if anyone has tried it or has experienced mold/fungus in the hosing. I think using CS instead of plain water through the hose should still let CS do its thing, even if its slightly warmedright? I also use a CPAP with a heated humidifier. I found that after 2 weeks the tubes would start to get a mildew smell and I would have to soak everything in vinegar to get rid of it. I then began to put CS into the humidifier about 2 years ago and I never have to clean the tubes anymore as they no longer get mildew in them. In fact after a couple months of running CS through the system I can only guess that all the tubes became coated with silver particles as I no longer have to put CS in the humidifier any more. +- Bentonite Clay for sale-+ http://pages.sbcglobal.net/davebe/clay.html ¦ David Bearrow ¦ ¦ dav...@sbcglobal.net ¦ + Phone: (972)722-8319 + -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Mike, After one year I'm saying again that the use of orgone accumulator is the best solution along with other good things. Stimulating the total energy of the organism is the presupposition for everything else. O.A cured my TB 30 years ago in one month. Before that time I had the smart. idea that using orgone and orgone accumulator is totally ridiculous. Today I know hundreds - between them 5 cancers sufferers - who became healthy after the use of O.A. My best Christos Moussouliotis Greece Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Go to: www.realityzone.com and look for cancer therapies. Cliff. - Original Message - From: Christos Moussouliotis mous...@spark.net.gr To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:11 AM Subject: Re: CSCancer therapies... Mike, After one year I'm saying again that the use of orgone accumulator is the best solution along with other good things. Stimulating the total energy of the organism is the presupposition for everything else. O.A cured my TB 30 years ago in one month. Before that time I had the smart. idea that using orgone and orgone accumulator is totally ridiculous. Today I know hundreds - between them 5 cancers sufferers - who became healthy after the use of O.A. My best Christos Moussouliotis Greece Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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IAHF Webmaster: Breaking News, Whats New, What to Do, All Countries Especially America, Codex, Eugenics IAHF List: When I gave my speech at the ACAM Anti Codex Emergency Meeting on November 18, 2004, I discussed the fact that Codex is part of a broader Eugenics agenda to cull our numbers- and cited evidence to support this fact. On the videotape at http://www.glycommunity.com/iahf when I said this you can audibly hear one unbelieving physician in the crowd say thats EXTREME in response to my statement. See the detailed article below my comments by Alan W. Smith PhD about how Bush has been looting the Social Security Trust Fund such that by 2018, when the tail end of the baby boom moves to retire and tries to collect on what they think is due them, everyone will realize it and this country will explode with rage as millions of armed citizens hit the roof. At that point, or perhaps even sooner, people like me will be rounded up and murdered in the concentration camps which FEMA has ready for us because they won't want us around to keep providing the rest of you with leadership. These camps are ready now for us whenever the ruling elite decides to trigger off martial law via another 911 type contrived event- see http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=1062 Yes, it IS extreme that we are in fact facing down a eugenics agenda and that Bush has been looting the social security trust fund such that by 2018 everyone will fully realize it. Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants- Strongly recommend all Americans join Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearm Ownership http://www.gunowners.org/ and http://www.jpfo.org to help defeat the raft of gun control legislation the ruling elite are attempting to force through on us because the Codex scam to ban our access to healing nutrients must be seen in light of this information about the looting of Social Security--- please snowball this information and encourage everyone you know to sign on to the IAHF email distribution list at http://www.iahf.com because there is SAFETY in NUMBERS. I got news for you Christine Lewis Taylor of FDA- when you move to fill in the blanks on allowable potency levels in May for Codex at the World Health Organization http://www.who.int/ipcs/highlights/nutrientraproject/en/- the whole WORLD IS WATCHING: I had death threats for pushing for Congressional oversight on this issue in 2001, and now you know why the pharma interests dominating the vitamin trade associations worked so hard to whitewash the hearing on March 20, 2001 that I pushed for for 5 years- read this and pass it on each one. teach 10, each 10 teach 100, each 100, teach 1000, each 1000, teach a million, each million, teach 10,000,000- especially distributors of MLM companies like USANA who are being lied to by bought off lawyers and myopic fools: http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=75248;title=APFN Allen W. Smith, Ph.D. Social Security Fraud May Become Bush's Watergate Fri Feb 4, 2005 15:58 64.140.158.7 ... in 1998 that they had in 1978, the Social ... One begins to suspect that Bush actually meant it when ... points out, the long-term Social Security shortfall everyone's ... http://www.bushwatch.org/socialsecurity.htm \\\ Press Release Source: Allen W. Smith Social Security Trust Fund Fraud May Become Bush's Watergate, Suggests Author of 'The Looting of Social Security' Tuesday February 1, 11:47 am ET http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050201/fltu022_1.html WINTER HAVEN, Fla., Feb. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Economist and author Allen W. Smith, Ph.D., argues that the biggest obstacle to getting clear debate on the Social Security problem is the misinformation that continues to be spread by the AARP and others who argue that the trust fund holds real assets. It is amazing how many people, including some Social Security experts, still just don't get it! Smith said. Weisbrot and Baker continue to spread the myth that, 'The Social Security trust fund will have more than $3.7 trillion in today's dollars in 2018.' Unless there is a change in policy, the trust fund will not have even $1 of real assets in 2018! Smith points out that David Walker, Comptroller General of the Government Accounting Office (GAO), while speaking at a Washington luncheon, co-hosted by Centrists.Org and the Alliance for Worker Retirement Security on January 21, 2005, said, The left hand owes the right hand, and that has legal, political and moral significance. But it doesn't have any economic significance whatsoever. There are no stocks or bonds or real estate in the trust fund. It has nothing of real value to draw down. If the Comptroller General of the GAO says there is 'nothing of real value' in the trust fund, then there is nothing of real value, Smith said. So what happened to the $3.7 trillion that so many people believe will be in the trust fund in 2018, or the $1.6 trillion that is
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Hi Mike! I've had the opportunity to speak with 3 families whose ill family members went to the Gerson Institute. Ironically, all 3 were treated for late stage liver cancer. To my knowledge, all three did not survive. However, all three families were very pleased with the treatment at Gerson. Pain was reduced, and quality of life was improved. These were cases of we've tried everything the MD's wanted, which failed and destroyed the body, now let's try alt med. Gerson's success rate reported has been refuted by many; there are many reports of their patients dying. I tried on several occasions to contact the Gerson Institute, to help them employ clay therapy more efficiently and effectively. They never responded. I would not personally go to the Gerson Institute. I corresponded with each family because they contacted me after being released from the institute. Gerson employs clay therapy for the treatment of liver cancer. To give you an idea of how ill of people we're talking about, none of them could tolerate a clay poultice applied to the liver... only a compress. With cancer, there is no doubt we have to get back to basics. It is very interesting to note that V. Earl Irons, one of the first people to produce supplements for sale in the United States, was adamant that good health begins and ends in the colon. http://www.healingdaily.com/colon-kidney-detoxification/colon-health.htm With cancer caused by toxemia, which is likely the causative factor in colon cancer, it doesn't much matter what you add to the body if the body is not capable of eliminating toxic substances. http://www.spindrift.co.za/medical_ozone.htm I wish I could agree that simple dietary changes are the cure for cancer. Despite hundreds to thousands of reports of dietary cures, many people do change their diets completely and still perish. Normally, we only hear about the success cases, as the ones who fail are no longer capable of filing a complaint. Cancer can take on a life of its own. Therefore, the best approach to curing cancer is to stay true to the formula: 1. Restore the body's ability to eliminate toxins 2. Provide proper and adequate nutritional support to the body. 3. Deliver a substance that will eliminate cancer cells. If one can maintain clarity about what needs to be accomplished, then the journey becomes much easier. Actively engaging in the healing process brings one's spiritual being into the therapy as well; without this, a cure is hardly ever likely. As an example, a real Qi Gong master can point his finger at a cancerous growth, in body or in Petri Dish, and reduce the cancer by 50%... but no more than 50%! This has been scientifically established with clinical studies done in Southern California. Therefore, those lucky enough to be in the care of a true medically trained and REAL Qi Gong master are responsible for the rest ( I only personally know of one that lives in the United States, even though many like to tout the title ). Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html
Re: CSCodex -- 1000 mg Vit.C into STORE!?
I believe if you purchase ascorbic acid powder or vitamin C powder, it will keep indefinitely. Vitamin C is a preservative and antioxidant, so I doubt it degrades itself. Not the tablets with filler are a completely different thing. Marshall Douglas Haack wrote: BROOKS B's suggestion of planting Rooted Rosa Rugosa is a timely and practical suggestion. My question is -- how does one put -- bottles of 1000 mg Vitamin C into store?? -- I ask the followint questions -- meant to be a short er term option. Vitamin C tablets and Powder obviously has a LIMITED SHELF LIFE. What might be the best way TO EXTEND THIS SHELF LIFE? Can one extend the SHELF LIFE? 1)Does one use VACUUM packing? 2)Use a CANNING PROCESS? 3What is the practical Shelf Life of say, Vitamin C? These question are meant to be food for thought!!! Listers -- put on your thinking caps!! The questions apply to other vitamins etc etc. HERE IS THE REAL QUESTION: Why should the average vitamin manufacturer object to CODEX?? They will simply comply en masse without a murmur -- formulating the smaller/less milligram pill/s as the new law will demand. AND . . . they'll all make lots more money!! You watch, they 'll ALL make more money for putting LESS into the formulations!! So let's not kid ourselves -- when did you see a product get really cheaper when reformulated?? So start preparing yourself. The poorer people of Europe before and during the two world wars used large earthen jars to marinate vegetables -- cabbage, cucumbers etc in their cellars. This got them thru the long winters without scurvy etc. My German mother and her older sister related these practices to me. I must add my mother actually hated marinated cabbage, having been forced to eat this type of fare -- growing up before WWII and being forced to continue marinating and eating the results during the war in Germany. I can remember after emmigrating to Australia in 1949 at the age of 5, my family were placed on a lare acreage sheep farm as their first employment. I can still see the farm manager wheel in half a sheep and hang it up in a large wire meat safe -- for our consumtion. We had never seen so much meat -- especially so much at our personal disposal. With all the other produce, we though we were in heaven!! in SILvation, Douglas H
Re: CSHelp for Wilma?
John wrote: Especially stop eating all those health breads! They are lies. They are made from a Bakers Base which contains horrific things and so-called wholemal bread is nothing like Wholemeal. You will have to get on to a source of Spelt flour (invariably only available at health fanatic sources as stone-ground(very important) biodynamic wholemeal flour. Make flat bread ( unleavened ) The exercise will do you good - STRICTLY follow the Food Combining rules. STRICTLY. Can you elaborate on what you mean about Baker's Base and bread in general? Do you feel that homemade whole grain bread is no good? And why? Thanks, Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
I tend to agree with what Tony has indicated. Slowing the rate of flow of water through an ionizer can only make the resultant water more ionized, not less ionized. There may be a problem with the first filter putting something into the water. There may be something in the water (from either the well or the filter) that is affecting the electrodes of the water ionizer causing them to ionize less efficiently. Maybe your Singer machine is just plain broken... Leaving the water out overnight for the CO2 to dissipate will only work before the water is ionized. You should ionize it after it sits out. Test the plain untreated well water before and after letting it sit out. If you let alkaline water sit out it will get more acidic, at least that's what I remember from ionizer literature I read. Get the water tested, and go from there. You'll want to know what is in it anyway... Dan Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks From: Tony Moody (view other messages by this author) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:05:58 Hi Nenah, May you be very happy in your new home. Have you tried connecting well water straight into the Ionizer? To test whether the filter is the culprit. I can think of two potential problems. 1/ Something has got into the ionizer causing a problem, possibly blocking a port or covering an electrode or sensor. 2/ The new filter is functionally different so that the water leaving the filter is now strongly buffered by passing through the filter. I can only imagine that slowing the water flow would cause the electrolysis process to be 'better' or 'stronger' hth, Tony On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:57, Nenah Sylver wrote: Dear People, I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be at least a neutral 7.0). As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much higher than 6.6. The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second setting and the highest setting, let the two containers of water sit overnight, and then retested the pH the next morning. There was no difference between the night before and the next morning. The highest pH was still about 6.6. Here are the mysteries: 1) Why would changing the water pressure (narrowing the mouth of the cartridge on Machine #1) create a difference in pH? 2) Why didn't the carbon dioxide escape from the open water? 3) If the carbon dioxide didn't escape from the open water, it's possible that the acidic readings weren't the result of carbonic acid. If not, what was creating the acid? All this leads to yet another issue: Obviously, we're going to filter our water to get rid of sediment and chemicals. But drinking acidic water is out of the question. What can we put into the water to raise the pH? I experimented with putting 50% concentrated pharmaceutical grade potassium hydroxide into the acidic water. I had to use at least four drops to get the water to an acceptably alkaline level (it only gets to about 7.2)..But now there is an unpleasant taste to the water. I
CSHerpes
Hello there, I recently joined after researching colloidal silver. I had in the past come across the idea of advanced colloidal preparations of metals, and it meant something at that time. Right now my son of one , who has severe atopic eczema, contracted herpes. Atopics are susceptible to this and it has spread violently all over his body. It hits them hard, especially due to broken skin. It is frightening believe me. It is like his whole body is raw and skin peeled. It is round his eyes too. The hospital (on Friday) ordered a swab, in order to screen the infection. The GP belivies it is Herpes Simplex. I do. My daughter had a small cold sore. SO did a friend in the house. The hospital gave us some antibiotics while we await the test results. (perhaps we'll get them tuesday. I couldn't wait that long to treat him, although also, I comfort the mother by saying let it run its course. `We take care to make sure he is loose wrapped in breathable cloth, and not overheated. My brother is a surgeon. I asked him about colloidal silver. At first he was worried, saying silver is poisonous. He didn't want me to experiment on my child. (he does support 'complimentary therapies'). He mentioned levels of research from A to D, and how no paper can be published unless level D . I know this means sound studies , double blind, placebo control. I urged him to confirm or disconfirm my research. He came back after a day and said , well the evidence comes mainly from lab studies, colloidal silver at least is harmless and might do some good, even as a dietary supplement. Though he complained a little about the quality of some of the sites, I know some of what he came accross impressed him. So I have started with some colloidal silver, internal and external, using the only source I could get locally from Holland and Barraty (UK). It is 3 ppm, and protein bound. I gave him one teaspoon and upped this to two on day two. Today is day three, I also douched his body. I plan to keep up a course at this level for the next five days, but am reviewing this. Actually I would lilke to ensure asensible dose, that is more than dietary, but gives some quick assistance, because he is weak now. There are signs of healing in the oldest sores. There are difficulties with areas around the neck, which easily become wet and do not breath so well due to folds of the skin, and head position. Obviously my son is in a an advanced acute phase of the infection. I am looking for any feedback concerning dosage and type of preparation. I have ordered a 20 ppm electrolytically prepared colloidal soloution, and hope it arrives soon. One concern is the topical application, the strength and the method. The other is the internal dose. ALso any feedback concerning similar experience is welcome. John Plumridge -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
Nenah, I'm surprised you didn't choose a good 6 stage Reverse Osmosis set up to treat your well water. That's what I would have done... with the 1st or 6th stage being a UV light to sterilize the water. I just installed a RO system in my home and never tasted sweeter water than it produces. I had a very good carbon block filter in use before this, but the taste can't compare. You might also want to check out the Crystal Clear Electron Water Machine. It's basically a distiller that emparts permanently charged left spinning electrons into the water, changing its structure permanently. It's an interesting concept and claims for this water abound. I purchased one but haven't used it yet. The device is completely hand made and of very good quality. You can call them and talk to Mr. Ellis, the inventor. Here is the link; http://www.johnellis.com/fs_main.htm Best of luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:46 AM Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks I tend to agree with what Tony has indicated. Slowing the rate of flow of water through an ionizer can only make the resultant water more ionized, not less ionized. There may be a problem with the first filter putting something into the water. There may be something in the water (from either the well or the filter) that is affecting the electrodes of the water ionizer causing them to ionize less efficiently. Maybe your Singer machine is just plain broken... Leaving the water out overnight for the CO2 to dissipate will only work before the water is ionized. You should ionize it after it sits out. Test the plain untreated well water before and after letting it sit out. If you let alkaline water sit out it will get more acidic, at least that's what I remember from ionizer literature I read. Get the water tested, and go from there. You'll want to know what is in it anyway... Dan Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks From: Tony Moody (view other messages by this author) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:05:58 Hi Nenah, May you be very happy in your new home. Have you tried connecting well water straight into the Ionizer? To test whether the filter is the culprit. I can think of two potential problems. 1/ Something has got into the ionizer causing a problem, possibly blocking a port or covering an electrode or sensor. 2/ The new filter is functionally different so that the water leaving the filter is now strongly buffered by passing through the filter. I can only imagine that slowing the water flow would cause the electrolysis process to be 'better' or 'stronger' hth, Tony On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:57, Nenah Sylver wrote: Dear People, I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be at least a neutral 7.0). As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much higher than 6.6. The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second setting and the highest setting, let the
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Hi Mike, Dr. Robert O. Becker discovered silver caused cancer cells to dedifferentiate in vitro. The links to that are on our site. http://www.silvergen.com/cancer_and_silver.htm Of all the customers that ask, I mention the fact that it seems to have worked in every case we have tried it on. I ask for feedback and I have not received any negative feedback. Always positive responses which isn't to say that it may not help but I don't get any calls saying it didn't work. I always mention the fact I'm not a physician so therefore cannot diagnose or prescribe. I mention what I would do as far as using CS and what I've been told by those that have used it. At least a quart daily spread out and taken on an empty stomach would be the preferred method of keeping the silver titer high in the blood as far as I'm concerned. A neighbor with metastasized cancer had two tumors the size of racquet balls on her bowel and another behind her esophagus that impaired her ability to swallow or turn her head. It was in also her bones and other places. I gave her 2 liters a day with the proviso she give me feedback on the results. She was able to start turning her head and also swallow within a few days and that made her feel better. She had radiographs at the end of two weeks and the tumors had shrunk to the size of cotton balls. After six weeks she got more radiographs and the tumors had disappeared. Her blood work was normal at that point. She decided to take a gallon per day for a while. After some time she called and told me she had dropped down to a maintenance level of a pint to quart daily. I haven't spoken to her recently but it has been about three years since she started on CS. She did NOT take any chemo or radiation as the doctors wanted her to because she had done that 10 years earlier when the cancer was first diagnosed and she was pronounced in remission. (they won't use the word cured). She told them she would rather die with dignity than go through that again so the only thing she did was drink CS. I guess that speaks volumes to me. Several others have called and said their cancers disappeared after taking CS. I hope this helps. Best regards, Trem - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 4:40 PM Subject: CSCancer therapies... Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. Anything else? If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and elsewhere. Peace, all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
- Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks Nenah, I'm surprised you didn't choose a good 6 stage Reverse Osmosis set up to treat your well water. That's what I would have done... with the 1st or 6th stage being a UV light to sterilize the water. I just installed a RO system in my home and never tasted sweeter water than it produces. I had a very good carbon block filter in use before this, but the taste can't compare. You might also want to check out the Crystal Clear Electron Water Machine. It's basically a distiller that emparts permanently charged left spinning electrons into the water, changing its structure permanently. It's an interesting concept and claims for this water abound. I purchased one but haven't used it yet. The device is completely hand made and of very good quality. You can call them and talk to Mr. Ellis, the inventor. Here is the link; http://www.johnellis.com/fs_main.htm Best of luck. Bob Hi Bob. If the water you drink is acidic, it is harmful to the system, no matter how much it has been filtered. Water can taste good but if it's acidic, it will cause damage over a period of time (see the book Reverse Aging). That's why I had the Singer water electrolysis unit at my other house. I just checked the John Ellis site and it is certainly intriguing, to say the least! Thanks for this tip. I would love a report from you when you try the water (what are you waiting for? I'm eager to hear the results). Best, Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Hi Mike, Just a wee titbit of info on Gerson therapy, my homeopathic doctor, very bright guy, said the other day that he had been at a conference on it, many years ago now, and he was very impressed with the results people were getting on it, people who were really at the end of the line were making recoveries. He said that he always kept the gerson treatment in mind in case he ever was in that situation as it all really impressed him though he said it was all very hard work and you really needed someone to help you do all the juicing etc etc to let you rest and make the most of the treatment as it was quite demanding. BW, Sheila Sunday, February 6, 2005, 7:45:22 PM, you wrote: MGD Greetings, MGD I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer MGD therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon MGD cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the MGD liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still MGD quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has MGD health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to MGD provide support if they need it. MGD I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have MGD any stories to tell about it, good or bad? MGD I haven't found anything good enough on the Budwig diet and therapy MGD that I'd be willing to give to somebody else. Any pointers? Web sites, MGD books? Brooks has recommended Budwig in the past. I'll have to refer MGD back to some of his posts to see what resources were suggested. MGD Anything else? MGD If they decide to add or substitute some alternative therapies, I'll be MGD continuing this research for a while. Any other comments are welcome -- MGD direct experiences, particularly. I'd like to provide some first hand MGD testimonials from folks I know, apart from the ones in books and MGD elsewhere. MGD Peace, all. MGD Mike D. MGD [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] MGD [mdev...@eskimo.com] MGD [Speaking only for myself... ] MGD -- MGD The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. MGD Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org MGD To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com MGD Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html MGD Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com MGD OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html MGD List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
Nenah, I just set it up but haven't had the time to use it. I'm extremely busy these days in my practice. I'll get around to it soon though. Let us all know what Mr. Ellis says with regards to the PH factor, if you talk to him. Bob - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver ne...@bestweb.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:30 AM Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks - Original Message - From: bbanever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:58 AM Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks Nenah, I'm surprised you didn't choose a good 6 stage Reverse Osmosis set up to treat your well water. That's what I would have done... with the 1st or 6th stage being a UV light to sterilize the water. I just installed a RO system in my home and never tasted sweeter water than it produces. I had a very good carbon block filter in use before this, but the taste can't compare. You might also want to check out the Crystal Clear Electron Water Machine. It's basically a distiller that emparts permanently charged left spinning electrons into the water, changing its structure permanently. It's an interesting concept and claims for this water abound. I purchased one but haven't used it yet. The device is completely hand made and of very good quality. You can call them and talk to Mr. Ellis, the inventor. Here is the link; http://www.johnellis.com/fs_main.htm Best of luck. Bob Hi Bob. If the water you drink is acidic, it is harmful to the system, no matter how much it has been filtered. Water can taste good but if it's acidic, it will cause damage over a period of time (see the book Reverse Aging). That's why I had the Singer water electrolysis unit at my other house. I just checked the John Ellis site and it is certainly intriguing, to say the least! Thanks for this tip. I would love a report from you when you try the water (what are you waiting for? I'm eager to hear the results). Best, Nenah -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHerpes
All of the cases I have seen CS used to treat eczema have brought total or partial healing and relief. Many of the folks who used my cs did not keep up with treatment so the eczema returned. In some cases I have heard cs does not work and I'm not sure why other than the fact that it may be a manifestation of a greater problem, perhaps a clogged liver or food allergy for instance. You may want to try a naturopath to go find out why the eczema is there to begin with. Health blessings Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Hi Mike! I've long been fascinated with cancer; it's metaphysical origins, and treatments; especially failed treatments. Sometimes, we can learn more by studying things that should've worked and didn't, rather than ringing the bell of the same successes. Concerning diet, Raymond Dextreit employed his modified macrobiotic diet to many cancer sufferers, with good results, but not perfect results. It's frustrating that we as species do not yet have all of the nutritional answers. People are very individualistic, and lifelong patterns CERTAINLY effect what a best recovery diet might be. Applying a one dietary formula cures all ideology is taking a big risk; one that I believe can be safely avoided as nuero-sciences are developed and honed. The ozone research I'm doing is dangerous. It's dangerous only because it is extremely powerful. As an example, a co-researcher I'm working with has had ovarian and cervical cysts since about age 9. For years, the docs used various methods to remove them, and they would simply come back. The ozone sauna therapy is destroying the cancerous cells as if they were the plague that they indeed are. It is amazing to witness, but the body must be supported adequately. When the body starts to let go of these, there is quite a bit of blood, sloughing flesh, and balls of tissue ejected; this would be a very scary experience for many people, if not everyone. The ozone sauna therapy reactivates the immune system, and the ozone and organic peroxides created attack the cancer directly. Now, at age 9 diet certainly does not cause cancer. Trauma can cause cancer too. Even severe emotional trauma and abuse. One of the advantages to colon cancer is that one does have direct access to the colon, even by ingesting substances orally. If I were in this position, I would utilize both Illite and Bentonite hydrated with EIS. We know that silver ions do kill cancer cells, we just have to find a way to deliver the silver to the location. I would want this mixture delivered to the colon each liver cycle, ie. every four hours, but at least twice a day, preferrably upon first arising and just before bed. I would consider doing colonics; specifically, with ozonated water. The ozone will begin to break down the outside of the cancerous tissue almost immediately. I imagine some of the German experts would advise ozone rectal insufflations, but I personally will not do that without some real medical supervision, not after what I've witnessed in my first five months of personal research into ozone therapy. So we have the ozonated water starting to break down cancerous tissue, we have the healing clays and silver delivered directly to the colon to help clean up and repair tissue. It has to be the green clays, with a high PH, so the mixture acts primarily at the colon. I like the bentonites/montmorillonites because their sorptive power is unmatched and the charge layers seem to be perfect for the silver; I like the Illite because it's particle sizing is extraordinary. PH Level of the mixture really should be around 8.7. If it is not, then one would have to add some high alkaline water, such as Trinity water, which is an excellent high PH water with a wonderful array of natural mineral contents. When I make my mixtures, I primarily use green bentonite, and simply add a small amount of hydrated illite to the pre-hydrated bentonite, and mix it in. If constipation occurs, in this case, I would choose to add activated charcoal to the clays rather than psyllium. Fiber is DEFINATELY needed with colon problems, however. I just know that the activated charcoal slurry with the clays will work very fast to clear to the large intestines. I've seen clay packs eliminate cancer, and I've seen clay packs fail to eliminate cancer. Clay packs applied to the abdominal region of healthy people has no pain or discomfort associated with it. This is often not the case with those with cancer. The clay will begin to stimulate the area; if the body has enough energy resouces available, this is excellent. If it does not, it can result in severe depletion and weakness. The three areas to treat are the left side of the torso, just above the hips; the center of the abdominal area, just below the belly button, and the right side of the torso, just above the hips. When I had my skin cancer, and was treating the area after successfully restoring my PH level and after utilizing the black salve to destroy the cancer, I apparently also had a colon problem. The clay packs applied to the left torso resulted in the ejection of a large stringy cancerous growth ( through the bowel ). A few days afterward, I started to feel fantastic. Proper breathing can also be miraculous with digestive problems, and learning how to breath properly costs nothing! As far as dietary concerns go, I'm with Christine Carlton 100%. If one can find a BodyTalk System practitioner, one has a Golden resource. The intellect doesn't
CSGood Cancer Information Site
Hi Mike: I have found a great resource this site : www.cancertutor.com It provides a great over view of the issues on using alternatives and goes over in great detail many different types of treatments and what they are good for. Helps people design a program that will work for them and avoid some of the pitfalls that may make alternative treatments not work for them . It also go over Dr Bidwigs as one of the many treatments .Alan
CScs for lick granuloma- newcomer
Hi all, I am new to this list. I have a dog who has obsessively been licking her legs and has created sores. She is on a homeopathic remedy and it seems to be working. She also is wearing an e-collar and I am working to remove the issues that might be causing her anxiety/obsessive lickng.. There is still some infflammation though, and my vet has prescribed a antibiotic/anti-iinflammitory cream ( animax) which I wont be using on her. I would like to try CS instead and am wondering how I should apply it and how much to use. Thanks for any suggestions, Joni
Re: CScs for lick granuloma- newcomer
- Original Message - From: joni jayanth...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: CScs for lick granuloma- newcomer I am new to this list. I have a dog who has obsessively been licking her legs and has created sores. She is on a homeopathic remedy and it seems to be working. She also is wearing an e-collar and I am working to remove the issues that might be causing her anxiety/obsessive lickng.. There is still some infflammation though, and my vet has prescribed a antibiotic/anti-iinflammitory cream ( animax) which I wont be using on her. I would like to try CS instead and am wondering how I should apply it and how much to use. Joni, To use CS topically, I mix a solution of about 10 parts CS to 1 part of DMSO. The DMSO carries the CS into the body very effectively. To help combat inflammation with my elder arthritic dog, I use Wobenzyme, natural enzymes that have wonderful anti-inflammatory properties. I cut a plain tablet in half and feed it to the dog on an empty stomach, morning and night. It really helps relieve stiffness and pain. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy http://www.nenahsylver.com Holistic health products, supplements and services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
How deep would a UV light penetrate? Seems like we could clean our blood by shining the UV light on our near skin arteries similar to a Beck zapper. I just had 3 UV blood cleaning treatments in Mexico and they helped my Allergies/Asthma. My Beck zapper did not work that well for Allergies/ Asthma. Still get Aspergillus clumps from my sinuses during flushes but they are smaller and can go 4 days without seeing anything. Could the 660 nm red led simulate the UV light? Brickey
Re: CScs for lick granuloma- newcomer
Nenah, By plain do you mean the clear-coated Wobenzyme? In looking it up, there seem to be two forms: clear-coated, and red-coated, both say they are enteric-coated. Is there another type of Wobenzyme? TIA, sol Nenah Sylver wrote: To help combat inflammation with my elder arthritic dog, I use Wobenzyme, natural enzymes that have wonderful anti-inflammatory properties. I cut a plain tablet in half and feed it to the dog on an empty stomach, morning and night. It really helps relieve stiffness and pain. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHerpes
Hi Steve, Thanks for sharing your CS excema results--I feel that IF your friends had been faithful in taking and applying CS and continued CS daily, they would probably remain clear. Most people fail to realize that there is NO cure for eczema, but continued relief and clear normal looking skin is my vote for almost as good as a cure. DR. Bob BECK observed that 85% of people would refuse to take or use alternative treatments like our Special Gift from God, CS! Even if you GAVE it to them at No Charge, most would NOT use or take it--saying, I'm waiting to ask my Doctor about it. At that point, I put them on my prayer list and if their problem is Cancer or other serious problem; usually within a year I attend their funeral. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: scl...@netzero.net [mailto:scl...@netzero.net] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHerpes All of the cases I have seen CS used to treat eczema have brought total or partial healing and relief. Many of the folks who used my cs did not keep up with treatment so the eczema returned. In some cases I have heard cs does not work and I'm not sure why other than the fact that it may be a manifestation of a greater problem, perhaps a clogged liver or food allergy for instance. You may want to try a naturopath to go find out why the eczema is there to begin with. Health blessings Steve -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSmycoplasma
Hi folks, Here is an interesting if scary article about mycoplasmoids. http://tinyurl.com/4h8b9 But a better starting point if you want to understand a far more reasonable view of pathology is here: http://fablor.com/matrixide/ the beginnings of a complete Course understanding the Disease Industry. Then come back here to the Silver OFF TOPIC list to discuss it. :-) Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScs for lick granuloma - WOBENZYME
- Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: Re: CScs for lick granuloma- newcomer Nenah, By plain do you mean the clear-coated Wobenzyme? In looking it up, there seem to be two forms: clear-coated, and red-coated, both say they are enteric-coated. Is there another type of Wobenzyme? TIA, sol Hi Sol. I mean the clear-coated Wobenzyme. The company puts stuff on the red coating to make it tasty enough for pets to eat. But since it has junk in it that's not healthy, I won't give it to my dogs. They learned to eat the clear-coated, given time. My general rule is: I don't eat preservatives, colorings, fake food or junk, so why feed it to my four-legged friends? When I first gave Wobenzyme to either dog, she didn't know what to do with it. I put a tablet in each dog's mouth and closed her mouth and stroked her throat, trying to get her to chew and swallow the tablet. It was a miserable failure. So I made it into a game, throwing the tablets onto the floor. They thought it was great fun and at least put it into their mouth. But then they spit it out. These are small dogs, so I understood that it might be easier halving the tablets so they wouldn't feel overwhelmed. That worked great. Now, each morning just after they awaken and at night just before they nod off to sleep, I give them their divided tablets (easy to cut with a sharp knife). They look forward to their treats and chomp them down with no problem. Both dogs are rescued, and were abused, over-vaccinated, and fed poorly before I adopted them. But they are alert, lively, and happy. I like to think that my care of them has contributed to their longevity. This summer, Tali will be 15 and Zumi will be 13. Several years ago Tali completely recovered from Lyme, thanks to Rife technology, and Zumi is still here despite having breast tumors, thanks to various protocols that include rubbing CS into her belly with a little DMSO. Dogs are wonderful. I can't recommend Wobenzyme highly enough; it helped heal Tali's cruciate ligament that had been damaged from the Lyme. It really makes a huge difference in helping her stay limber and not getting stiff. There are other good enzyme products on the market from Enzymatic Therapy for instance, but they are in caps. The Wobenzyme is the only one I know of (except for serropeptase tablets) that is in a form suitable for a dog to chomp on. Keep in mind that enzymes given therapeutically must be taken on an empty stomach, so the benefits will go toward functions other than digestion. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy http://www.nenahsylver.com Holistic health products, supplements and services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver protein
Someone mentioned using collodial silver that was protein bound. I am wondering about silver protein. I came across a web site when researching something unrelated and this web site makes some interesting claims in favor of silver protein and high ppms. Isnt this what causes the grey condition? Any comments on this web site? www.invive.com What is watersil collodial silver? __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsilver protein
Betsy Coffey wrote: Someone mentioned using collodial silver that was protein bound. I am wondering about silver protein. I came across a web site when researching something unrelated and this web site makes some interesting claims in favor of silver protein and high ppms. Isnt this what causes the grey condition? Any comments on this web site? Yes, it can and does cause argyria. Basically they add protein, like gelatine, to make their product stable, but the protein reduces the effectiveness so much, they have to jack the concentration of silver up by about a factor or 20 or so. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCancer therapies...
Hi: The best primer, plus that I have found in the cancer battle is: Bill Henderson's Cure Your Cancer and Cancer-Free books Visit: http://www.beating-cancer-gently.com/ Regards Peter R -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 2/3/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLife Extension Founders Arrested
Way back in 1991, the Life Extension Foundation founders were arrested and had their property confiscated in an attack similar to that which shut down altcancer.com and put Greg Caton in jail. I had not known about the LEF busts. Those concerned about health freedom need to read this. Those who believe the FDA is profoundly corrupt will appreciate the information and the victories by LEF, which I support wholeheartedly. http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2005/ feb2005_awsi_01.htm?source=eNewsLetter2005Wk06-1key=Body%2BMag%2BAWSI JBB On Monday, Feb 7, 2005, at 19:11 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote: Christos! Welcome to the list, and thanks for contributing. I've heard of these and seen some information on their construction. But there are different types. What was the design that you used, and can you point me to instructions for it? This would be the sort of thing that falls in the it couldn't hurt to try it category, once we have them started on other protocols. I'm intrigued by the idea anyway, so maybe they'd try it as a favor to me. grin Thank you sir! Mike D. Mike, After one year I'm saying again that the use of orgone accumulator is the best solution along with other good things. Stimulating the total energy of the organism is the presupposition for everything else. O.A cured my TB 30 years ago in one month. Before that time I had the smart. idea that using orgone and orgone accumulator is totally ridiculous. Today I know hundreds - between them 5 cancers sufferers - who became healthy after the use of O.A. My best Christos Moussouliotis Greece [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
Mr. Moussouliotis, you may be aware that in the USA, orgone researcher Dr. Wilhelm Reich had his equipment smashed, his books burned, and his body thrown into prison, where he died in 1957 shortly before his release. It was one of the most grotesque miscarriages of justice I know of. Reich was a very peculiar man and at one level, seemed to attract persecutors with his displeasing messianic aspects, but perhaps those personality quirks derived from the fact that was indeed persecuted! In the USA, those who experiment with chi/orgone/od wisely steer clear of any health claims. If you can research this freely in Greece, you are fortunate. I think in general Europeans are more free to work on the borders of mainstream science. Germany is way ahead of the US in homeopathic and resonance studies, I think. On Monday, Feb 7, 2005, at 22:11 Asia/Tokyo, Christos Moussouliotis wrote: Mike, After one year I'm saying again that the use of orgone accumulator is the best solution along with other good things. Stimulating the total energy of the organism is the presupposition for everything else. O.A cured my TB 30 years ago in one month. Before that time I had the smart. idea that using orgone and orgone accumulator is totally ridiculous. Today I know hundreds - between them 5 cancers sufferers - who became healthy after the use of O.A. My best Christos Moussouliotis Greece Greetings, I've been working very hard the last week exploring alternative cancer therapies in greater depth. A good friend is diagnosed with colon cancer, with possible liver involvement. He'll get word back on the liver pathology tomorrow, so we'll know more soon. From what I see, he's a good candidate for the alternatives. He's still quite strong and healthy, his wife is open to these ideas and has health-care experience, and they have friends and family enough to provide support if they need it. I've found good, solid information on the Gerson therapy. Anybody have any stories to tell about it, good or bad? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks
according to research by Leon http://www.geocities.com/lgasparyan/e_home.html a Blue LED will be affective when applied topically at the wrist artery.Though not as affective as laser intravenously applied. A RED LED would be less - though still affective. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRequested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks How deep would a UV light penetrate? Seems like we could clean our blood by shining the UV light on our near skin arteries similar to a Beck zapper. I just had 3 UV blood cleaning treatments in Mexico and they helped my Allergies/Asthma. My Beck zapper did not work that well for Allergies/ Asthma. Still get Aspergillus clumps from my sinuses during flushes but they are smaller and can go 4 days without seeing anything. Could the 660 nm red led simulate the UV light? Brickey
RE: CSwilma and question to himagain
Lyme is not caused by a mycoplasma. It is caused by an intracellular organism, Borellia Burgdorfi. -Original Message- From: Betsy Coffey [mailto:latimergi...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSwilma and question to himagain I was just wondering if Wilma has been tested for mycoplasma infections like lyme etc. which can cause some of her bowel troubles. Also chronic systemic candidias can be a problem esp if she has been on alot of antibioitcs. If this is the case, I think that supplements are helpful rather than harmful but it is important to get them in a form that she can assimilate. A question for himagain- I agree that many supplements are stressful to the body but I do think it is hard to get what you need in food the way that it is processed-even good food is lacking due to soil depletion etc. The question that I have regards the collodial minerals that the tape you suggested recommends. I wanted to know if you take this mineral supplement and have you had luck with it? I keep hearing how collodial minerals have heavy metals in them. thanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCancer therapies...
At 01:12 AM 08/02/05, Jason wrote: With cancer caused by toxemia, which is likely the causative factor in colon cancer, it doesn't much matter what you add to the body if the body is not capable of eliminating toxic substances. ** Totally true. I wish I could agree that simple dietary changes are the cure for cancer. Despite hundreds to thousands of reports of dietary cures, many people do change their diets completely and still perish. Normally, we only hear about the success cases, as the ones who fail are no longer capable of filing a complaint. Cancer can take on a life of its own. * As usual we are dealing with half stories all the time, a priori . Dietary changes ALONE aren't the cure for Cancer, but without them as first action, nothing will save the afflicted. The famous carrot diet alone had over 40,000 attested successes 50 years ago. As stated before - sadly always anecdotally - the underground Cancervivor groups have unknown thousands of complete cures. My own experience had zero failures with the qualified people: vis no major prior medical intervention/destruction by way of radiation/chemo. Same results as the Medical Mafia mirror-reversed: They have 100% failure in properly diagnosed cases - Cancervivors 100% success. The only failures recorded were of participants. Nobody survived who broke the detox rule. Nobody died who followed it. Not just going on a diet, but reversing the intoxicating activities that created the environment for the creation of Cancer. I've passed on a few extra points over time here: 1. Correct defecation training 2. Environmental Sherlock management 3. The power of the spirit. NOTHING works without the right state of mind. Sorry, but just as the law of gravity is fixed for us down here, so is the Law of Retribution. It takes a lng time to create a Cancer-attractive environment, so it takes a long time to reverse it. There is NEVER going to be a Magic Pill to undo the bodily sins or iatrogenic damage. It is also most definitely a case of the sins of the parents being visited in the case of the young, from my own observations. I really do wish there was a simple easy answer .. Himagain. Who finally learned discipline way beyond his martial arts demands :-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHelp for Wilma?
At 01:19 AM 08/02/05, Dan wrote: Can you elaborate on what you mean about Baker's Base and bread in general? Do you feel that homemade whole grain bread is no good? And why? My old computer business once wrote a program to automate recipe handling in a specialty bakery chain once, many years ago. I was stunned at what actually was in the Bakers Base the flour from which they make EVERYTHING from donuts to wholemeal bread to white bread, brown bread. From memory there were well over 20 chemical components - oh, and flour. Flour made with high pressure high speed steel rollers. ( nothing left of it to use in a human body) All the textures and flavours are fakes. The guy who owned the business was an international sportsman - was horrified at the idea that he might eat the stuff - it would wreck him! He was very conscientious about *his* regime NO NO! I am the reverse here: The only bread safe to eat today is homemade bread - BY HAND - you should see what goes into the machine-ready mixes you buy for those dinky bread making machines! You have to obtain the real thing. Real flour is not white, it is at best a funny yellow, if made from a stone grinding mill will be universally rough in texture ( the fake ones have stuff added in to the talcum to make it look/feel a bit healthy). The most healthful is a very old style grain called Spelt. The worst sufferer of so-called gluten intolerance can eat their head off with it. AND get healthier and defecate a bit normally. Maybe even get a bit well :-) Occasional specialty info like this sort of thing about the tricks they play can be found here: * About health matters in food - lies about Fats, oils, helpful tricks for you! Here: mailto:food4life-subscr...@topica.com Cheers, Himagain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHerpes
At 01:57 AM 08/02/05, you wrote: Right now my son of one , who has severe atopic eczema, contracted herpes. Atopics are susceptible to this and it has spread violently all over his body. It hits them hard, especially due to broken skin. It is frightening believe me. It is like his whole body is raw and skin peeled. It is round his eyes too. My extreme sympathies to you all. It is extremely difficult to damage babies, actually. It takes a lot of wrongdoing. May I suggest that this sounds like something I've seen more than once recently. If the baby is being bottle-fed - this is the first culprit to check. It is more than likely that the child is pre-diabetic due to the lack of nutrition and fantastic doses of sugar. If it was sudden onset - look for a change in detergent in washing - new synthetic clothing/ bedclothes. If the child has been recently vaccinated. not much can be done. It is up to the child and only decent food and clean water can help now. A young mother in a case mentioned has been spraying her regretfully recently vaccinated child with a mixture of 10 ppm CS with an H202 2% component using a spray bottle every two hours and keeping a gentle fan going to dry the baby slowly. After 8 days of terror, the results are in her words a miracle after 2 days treatment. No more prepared baby toxics - she is making it at home. Best wishes, Himagain PLEASE NOTE ALL OF ANY OF MY POSTINGS ARE PERSONAL COMMENTS/OPINIONS. I HAVE NO MEDICAL FRANCHISE AT ALL AND YOUR DUR DILIGENCE IS NECESSARY -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSthe spelling purist strikes again
It is mycoplasm, and the Lyme bacterium is a spirochete called Borellia burgdorferi named for a Dr. Burgdorf. I knew the latter bacteria all too well... :o( Thank God for CS!! Marshalee Lyme is not caused by a mycoplasma. It is caused by an intracellular organism, Borellia Burgdorfi. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
