Re: CSpiezo electric gas lighter

[V]

Hi Acmeair,

I have made one of those. Its quite simple depending on the style of the 
particular lighter. if you get ones in the dollor store its cheap to 
experliment. I jsut break of the long tube and there is a wire inside it and 
that is where the chrage comes out. the tube was the ground for it so if you 
can cut theu tube real short and have the wire stick out then tha is one way to 
do it.




Take care,
 V
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 some time back, during the early days of brown recluse spider bites, 
 someone mentioned re-configuring a piezo electric barbeque lighter to 
 act like a stun gun, the purpose of which to zap insect/spider bites. 
 does anyone have the info on this conversion

 jim


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Re: CSI'm New!

[MATTHEW ARNOLD]

I'm handling my depression okay, its just dealing with the other health 
problems that's the problem.  Its just being a mom with little kids and 
working, that's not depression that's just life.

Shannon



From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:11:14 -0400

Welcome Shannon :)

Here are two articles on healing depression that might be useful to you.

http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html

http://www.sunlightnews.com/index.html

Barbara




  constantly behind and discouraged.  My depression is much better with 
Celexa, I can live now!

  Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
  Shannon



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Re: CSchemtrails.......which dont exist.?

[Carol Ann]

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/835318817?ltl=1149058155
 We, the Undersigned, 
endorse the following petition:
Call on Gov. Schwarzenegger to Investigate Chemtrails   
  Target: Arnold Schwartzenegger, Governor, State of California
 Sponsor: Eben Rey
 
   
Signatures: 59 
Goal: 50,000 
Deadline: Ongoing... 
  
   See Full Petition
   Email this Petition
 
   Calling for a State Level Investigation into the Aerial Spraying 
Campaign  known as Chemtrails/Persistent Contrails.  


debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:  Yes and what does the gov't say as to why 
they are justified in doing it todaythey say to control global 
warminganyone who trust's anything to do with the gov't is ...welll...we 
won't go there.debbie
  
 -- Original message -- 
From: epa...@sympatico.ca 

 there is documented evidence stating admittedly by the federal gov't that 
 spraying of chemicals (at that time-post WWII) was done over parts of 
 Manitoba and are confirmed cases that many people developed MS shortly after 
 this and many other sprayings. 
 
 E 
 
 
 From: panamp...@aol.com 
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Subject: Re: CSchemtrails 
 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:24:48 EDT 
  
 My take on the chem trails is that they surely must exist 
 in spite of the fact I've never seen them. Someone said that 
 there were millions who had observed such, so I may be in 
 the minority that ha!  ve not.  
   I have a link somewhere or document written by a local Oak Ridge 
 scientist who says he helped set up the spraying program 12 years ago- and 
 why. He 
 is Jim Phelps. 
 Marshall, I would like to hear/see what Mr Phelps has to say about 
 the spray. Do you remember reading his papers, and their content? 
 I'm curious why these humongous amounts of believers never 
 took samples of this oil type spray to a lab for analysis so as to 
 prove its authenticity?! In other words, are we being poisoned, 
 drugged, or sickened by this substance? PanAm 
 
 
 
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Re: CSchemtrails.......which dont exist.?

[somerbus]

ENOUGH ALREADY

Yours
Kay Jennings, 
with Polly (WSD), Kiri (BC) and Ziggy (GSD) - and Hagar the Maine Coon
Paulton
Nr. Bristol
England
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CSchemtrails...which dont exist.?


  http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/835318817?ltl=1149058155

  We, the Undersigned, endorse the following petition:
  Call on Gov. Schwarzenegger to Investigate Chemtrails
  Target: Arnold Schwartzenegger, Governor, State of California
  Sponsor: Eben Rey
a.. Signatures: 59 
b.. Goal: 50,000 
c.. Deadline: Ongoing... 
a.. See Full Petition
b.. Email this Petition
  Calling for a State Level Investigation into the Aerial Spraying Campaign  
known as Chemtrails/Persistent Contrails. 


  debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:
Yes and what does the gov't say as to why they are justified in doing it 
todaythey say to control global warminganyone who trust's anything to 
do with the gov't is ...welll...we won't go there.debbie

  -- Original message -- 
  From: epa...@sympatico.ca 

   there is documented evidence stating admittedly by the federal gov't 
that 
   spraying of chemicals (at that time-post WWII) was done over parts of 
   Manitoba and are confirmed cases that many people developed MS shortly 
after 
   this and many other sprayings. 
   
   E 
   
   
   From: panamp...@aol.com 
   Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Subject: Re: CSchemtrails 
   Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:24:48 EDT 

   My take on the chem trails is that they surely must exist 
   in spite of the fact I've never seen them. Someone said that 
   there were millions who had observed such, so I may be in 
   the minority that ha! ve not. 
 I have a link somewhere or document written by a local Oak Ridge 
   scientist who says he helped set up the spraying program 12 years ago- 
and 
   why. He 
   is Jim Phelps. 
   Marshall, I would like to hear/see what Mr Phelps has to say about 
   the spray. Do you remember reading his papers, and their content? 
   I'm curious why these humongous amounts of believers never 
   took samples of this oil type spray to a lab for analysis so as to 
   prove its authenticity?! In other words, are we being poisoned, 
   drugged, or sickened by this substance? PanAm 
   
   
   
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Re: CSMRSA

[EJohns9525]

 
In a message dated 5/31/2006 11:15:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
smcarn...@msn.com writes:

MRSA is  Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureaus.  Its a strain of staph that has 
 
become resistant to Methicillin, or oxicillin, a popular antibiotic for  
staph infections.  It is highly infectious and patients in nursing  homes or 
hospitals that are found to have it are isolated from  others.
Shannon



My grandson got it at school.  there was a rash of it at the beginning  of 
the school year.  The doctor who did the culture told us there were many  young 
kids with it.  We treated
it with ozone and ozonated oil.  The doc wanted to hospitalize him  with 
intravenous
antibiotics.   
 
Edith
 

RE: CSI'm New!

[epatai]

hello Shannon,

Have you considered seeing a homeopath who has a vegamachine and radionics 
to get to the source of your problem? I know of one in Toronto but I donot 
know of anyone else who uses this method anywhere else.


Ernie



From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSI'm New!
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:20:20 +

Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have had 
health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been 
diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy 
procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.  
What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use of 
ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible, 
unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks 
Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost a 
week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any 
suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and 
Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers.  
I just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that 
means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3 
and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly behind 
and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live now!

Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
Shannon

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Re: CSI'm New!

[noblemetals]

Find a good naturopath. Fire your allopath.  Do a colon cleanse, liver cleanse, 
GB cleanse.  Get on a good green powder vitamin.  Walk 3 miles  3 times a week. 
Get some sun.  Drink 60 ounces of distilled water a day.   NEVER put another 
coke, microwaved food, dairy products in your body again. Throw away your 
fluoride toothpaste. NEVER put any more sugar or aspertame in your body again.  
 Do a parasite cleanse. Start at www.doctoryourself.comwww.herbdoc.com
www.hacres.com  Be well and prosper.  TJ
 
 From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
 Date: 2006/06/01 Thu AM 12:20:20 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSI'm New!
 
 Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have had 
 health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been 
 diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy 
 procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.  
 What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use of 
 ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible, 
 unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
 Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks 
 Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost a 
 week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any 
 suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and 
 Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers.  I 
 just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that 
 means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3 
 and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly behind 
 and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live now!
 Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
 Shannon
 
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Re: CSCMO results

[Carol Ann]

Malcom, Thanks for the reply. 

Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com wrote:  Hi, no doubt many others will also 
respond, CMO is cetyl myristoleate, a compound first isolated by Harry Diehl 
(sp?) a respected organic chemist.

 He was searching for a compound to cure arthritis, as a neighbor and friend 
had it so badly he could no longer work.

 At 06:39 PM 5/28/06 -0700, you wrote:

 Bob, 
 Please clairfy, what does CMO stand foras you say, its been  a few months 
since it was mentioned.

 Thanks. 

 Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote:



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Re: CSI'm New!

[GMetropulo]

Check for Lyme as a cause of the fibromyalgia. Dr. Whitaker at Bowen Lab 
found it in !00% of those with fibromyalgia sufferers. Fibromyalgia means 
fibrosed 
muscles of which Lyme causes. Local lab test come back negative often. Igenex 
and bowen Lab are reliable sources. Silver is a good choice but with a 
chronic condition you may need more adjuncts. Get to the cause instead of 
bandaiding 
with drugs that are causing more destruction. I have chronic lyme which took 
many years to diagnose, after 12 misdiagnosis. I have 6 children so I know the 
challenges. Many Blessings, georgia

Re: CSI'm New!

[mborgert]

SHANNON,
ALL OF THE INFORMATION  THE OTHERS GAVE YOU IS RIGHT ON, SO I WILL JUST THROW 
IN MY INFORMATION.
IBUPROFEN IS CAUSING THE ULCERS AS IT DID IN BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY  
MOTHER-IN-LAW.
FIBROMYALGIA IS CAUSED MY THE BODYS NEED FOR MINERALS IE. CALICUM WHICH IS 
DEPLEATED BY THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND PREVACID.  WALKING IS THE BEST FOR IT NOT 
ONLY HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION BUT ALSO WITH ADDING CALCIUM TO THE BODY.  WHEN 
YOU WALK DO NOT WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR AT LEAST 20 MINUTES, THIS HELPS WITH THE 
DEPRESSION.
GET OFF OF ALL DRUGS, THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS DO SO GRADUALLY.
I KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AS I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT 12 YRS AGO AND COULD NOT 
WALK, TALK, READ, WRITE OR WATCH TV OR LISTEN TO THE RADIO, AS I HAVE A SEVERE 
BRAIN INJURY.  ALL THE DOCS SAID YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE DRUGS.  I WOULD 
NOT!!! UNIVERSITY OF WASH. WANTED TO PUT ME IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION TO REGULATE 
THE DRUGS!! NO WAY.
I WENT TO VIRGINIA MASON HOSPITAL THAT SPECIALIZES IN BRAIN INJURIES, DRUGS 
WERE ALSO THEIR CHOICE FOR THEY THINK THAT IF ONE HAS A BRAIN INJURY ONE MUST 
BE DEPRESSED THEY LECTURED ME FOR 2 HRS A DAY ON THIS. I WOULD NOT!!!I 
TOLD THEM MY PROBLEM WAS FRUSTRATION BUT THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO BOX TO CHECK 
FOR THIS!!!
AN ARTICLE WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PSYCHOLOGY AND HEALTH NEWSLETTER, VOL.8 ISSUE 
NO.2.  IT TELLS ONE HOW TO EAT WELL AND HOW TO WALK WELL FOR DEPRESSION.  I DID 
IT!! WHEN I FELT THE DEPRESSION COMING ON I WOULD GRAB ST. JOHN'S WART FOR A 
COUPLE OF DAYS AND ATE BETTER AND I WAS OK.  IF YOU NEED THIS INFO. I CAN SEND 
YOU A COPY.
I STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES, FALLING DOWN AND DRIVING BUT I KNOW MY 
LIMITATIONS AND I ADDRESS THEM EAT RIGHT AND WALK .  A FEW DAYS AGO I WAS 
WALKING AND TALKING TO SOMEONE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE I WAS WALKING 
AND FELL FLAT ON MY FACE ON THE GRAVEL, I COULD NOT STOP MYSELF THE BRAIN HAD 
HAD ENOUGH.
ALL THE DOCS WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WITH DEPRESSION YOU LOOSE BRAIN CHEMICALS, I 
COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I LOST THEM AND HOW TO GET THEM BACK BUT ALL THEY 
WOULD SAY WAS DRUGS AND EVERYONE IN MY CLASS OF 20 BELIEVED THEM BUT NOT I.
p.s. I KNOW I PROBABLY HAVE MISSPELT WORDS AND MY WRITING IS NOT GOOD BUT 
PLEASE DO NOT CORRECT, AS SOMEONE DID THE LAST TIME.  IT TOOK DAYS TO WRITE 
THIS AS I CAN ONLY SPEND 2 MINUTES A DAY ON THE COMPUTER AND MY EYES AND BRAIN 
ARE SPENT.
 -- Original message --
From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
 Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have had 
 health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been 
 diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy 
 procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.  
 What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use of 
 ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible, 
 unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
 Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks 
 Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost a 
 week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any 
 suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and 
 Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers.  I 
 just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that 
 means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3 
 and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly behind 
 and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live now!
 Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
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Re: CSI'm New!

[Ann B. Mullikin]

Thanks so much for these websites.  I have bookmarked all of them for 
further study.  It's past the time when everyone takes responsibility

for their own state of health!!

ann
th...@francomm.com


- Original Message - 
From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!




Find a good naturopath. Fire your allopath.  Do a colon cleanse, liver 
cleanse, GB cleanse.  Get on a good green powder vitamin.  Walk 3 miles  3 
times a week. Get some sun.  Drink 60 ounces of distilled water a day. 
NEVER put another coke, microwaved food, dairy products in your body 
again. Throw away your fluoride toothpaste. NEVER put any more sugar or 
aspertame in your body again.   Do a parasite cleanse. Start at 
www.doctoryourself.comwww.herbdoc.comwww.hacres.com  Be well and 
prosper.  TJ


From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
Date: 2006/06/01 Thu AM 12:20:20 EDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSI'm New!

Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have 
had

health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been
diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy
procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.
What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use 
of

ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible,
unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks
Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost 
a

week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any
suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and
Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers. 
I

just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that
means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3
and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly 
behind
and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live 
now!

Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
Shannon

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Re: CSShannon FMS etc

[Rowena]

Shannon, there are a couple of things it might be worth you researching and 
trying.
One is coconut oil, virgin not the hydrogenated product on grocery shelves.
Another is plain old salt  - well, good salt, celtic or sea or macrobiotic 
or Himalayan or some such mineral-rich variety, not the ordinary table salt 
which is just sodium chloride stripped of its minerals.  Have a pinch 
several times a day with water and look up the salt and Vit C therapy some 
time.
You will then have three things healing and dealing with germs, worms and 
other unwelcome visitors.

I wish you all the best and speedy improvement.  You have a lot on your 
plate.  Sorry you are under such stress and trying to care for your little 
ones as well.  Hope to hear that things look up for you soon.
Rowena 


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Re: CSI'm New!

[MATTHEW ARNOLD]

There's a lot of good information in these emails.  I don't want to get off 
my one antidepressant I've been taking for awhile.  It makes a world of 
difference in my life.  Once I ran out on a weekend when I couldn't get to 
my pharmacy, and I missed 2 doses.  Someone said something to me that was 
the teeniest bit offensive and I started crying.  Then I couldn't stop 
crying and I cried so hard and so long that I had an upset stomach and a 
migraine.  I was sitting on the bathroom floor throwing up with company 
over.  I had to go to the emergency room and get a shot.  I will never go 
through that again.  It reminded me of what my life was like before Celexa.
When I don't have Celexa, my world falls apart.  If I didn't have Celexa, I 
would be divorced and my poor little girls would be traumatized.  A doctor 
did not tell me about Celexa.  I had several friends that swore by it, so I 
asked the Doctor for a prescription.  I stopped freaking out at my husband 
and getting mad at him, I'm much more laid back.  I don't have any side 
effects that I am aware of, well at least, no undesireable side effects :).  
  All my health problems came before I was on Celexa, nothing has really 
changed otherwise.  I was told that Silver would cure fibromyalgia, and that 
those that had fibromyalgia and had taken silver would vouch for that.  I 
will look into the other things though.

Shannon



From: mborg...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:40:30 +

SHANNON,
ALL OF THE INFORMATION  THE OTHERS GAVE YOU IS RIGHT ON, SO I WILL JUST 
THROW IN MY INFORMATION.
IBUPROFEN IS CAUSING THE ULCERS AS IT DID IN BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY  
MOTHER-IN-LAW.
FIBROMYALGIA IS CAUSED MY THE BODYS NEED FOR MINERALS IE. CALICUM WHICH IS 
DEPLEATED BY THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND PREVACID.  WALKING IS THE BEST FOR IT 
NOT ONLY HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION BUT ALSO WITH ADDING CALCIUM TO THE 
BODY.  WHEN YOU WALK DO NOT WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR AT LEAST 20 MINUTES, THIS 
HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION.

GET OFF OF ALL DRUGS, THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS DO SO GRADUALLY.
I KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AS I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT 12 YRS AGO AND COULD 
NOT WALK, TALK, READ, WRITE OR WATCH TV OR LISTEN TO THE RADIO, AS I HAVE A 
SEVERE BRAIN INJURY.  ALL THE DOCS SAID YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE DRUGS.  
I WOULD NOT!!! UNIVERSITY OF WASH. WANTED TO PUT ME IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION 
TO REGULATE THE DRUGS!! NO WAY.
I WENT TO VIRGINIA MASON HOSPITAL THAT SPECIALIZES IN BRAIN INJURIES, DRUGS 
WERE ALSO THEIR CHOICE FOR THEY THINK THAT IF ONE HAS A BRAIN INJURY ONE 
MUST BE DEPRESSED THEY LECTURED ME FOR 2 HRS A DAY ON THIS. I WOULD 
NOT!!!I TOLD THEM MY PROBLEM WAS FRUSTRATION BUT THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO BOX 
TO CHECK FOR THIS!!!
AN ARTICLE WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PSYCHOLOGY AND HEALTH NEWSLETTER, VOL.8 
ISSUE NO.2.  IT TELLS ONE HOW TO EAT WELL AND HOW TO WALK WELL FOR 
DEPRESSION.  I DID IT!! WHEN I FELT THE DEPRESSION COMING ON I WOULD GRAB 
ST. JOHN'S WART FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ATE BETTER AND I WAS OK.  IF YOU 
NEED THIS INFO. I CAN SEND YOU A COPY.
I STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES, FALLING DOWN AND DRIVING BUT I KNOW MY 
LIMITATIONS AND I ADDRESS THEM EAT RIGHT AND WALK .  A FEW DAYS AGO I WAS 
WALKING AND TALKING TO SOMEONE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE I WAS 
WALKING AND FELL FLAT ON MY FACE ON THE GRAVEL, I COULD NOT STOP MYSELF THE 
BRAIN HAD HAD ENOUGH.
ALL THE DOCS WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WITH DEPRESSION YOU LOOSE BRAIN 
CHEMICALS, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I LOST THEM AND HOW TO GET THEM BACK 
BUT ALL THEY WOULD SAY WAS DRUGS AND EVERYONE IN MY CLASS OF 20 BELIEVED 
THEM BUT NOT I.
p.s. I KNOW I PROBABLY HAVE MISSPELT WORDS AND MY WRITING IS NOT GOOD BUT 
PLEASE DO NOT CORRECT, AS SOMEONE DID THE LAST TIME.  IT TOOK DAYS TO WRITE 
THIS AS I CAN ONLY SPEND 2 MINUTES A DAY ON THE COMPUTER AND MY EYES AND 
BRAIN ARE SPENT.

 -- Original message --
From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
 Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have 
had

 health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been
 diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy
 procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic 
colitis.
 What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use 
of

 ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible,
 unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
 Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks
 Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost 
a

 week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any
 suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and
 Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my 
ulcers.  I

 just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that
 means about the rest 

Re: CSI'm New!

[Ann B. Mullikin]

Hi.  Your fighting spirit inspires me!!  Keep going.

Best wishes
ann
th...@francomm.com


- Original Message - 
From: mborg...@att.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!




SHANNON,
ALL OF THE INFORMATION  THE OTHERS GAVE YOU IS RIGHT ON, SO I WILL JUST 
THROW IN MY INFORMATION.
IBUPROFEN IS CAUSING THE ULCERS AS IT DID IN BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY 
MOTHER-IN-LAW.
FIBROMYALGIA IS CAUSED MY THE BODYS NEED FOR MINERALS IE. CALICUM WHICH IS 
DEPLEATED BY THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND PREVACID.  WALKING IS THE BEST FOR IT 
NOT ONLY HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION BUT ALSO WITH ADDING CALCIUM TO THE 
BODY.  WHEN YOU WALK DO NOT WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR AT LEAST 20 MINUTES, THIS 
HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION.

GET OFF OF ALL DRUGS, THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS DO SO GRADUALLY.
I KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AS I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT 12 YRS AGO AND COULD 
NOT WALK, TALK, READ, WRITE OR WATCH TV OR LISTEN TO THE RADIO, AS I HAVE 
A SEVERE BRAIN INJURY.  ALL THE DOCS SAID YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE 
DRUGS.  I WOULD NOT!!! UNIVERSITY OF WASH. WANTED TO PUT ME IN A MENTAL 
INSTITUTION TO REGULATE THE DRUGS!! NO WAY.
I WENT TO VIRGINIA MASON HOSPITAL THAT SPECIALIZES IN BRAIN INJURIES, 
DRUGS WERE ALSO THEIR CHOICE FOR THEY THINK THAT IF ONE HAS A BRAIN INJURY 
ONE MUST BE DEPRESSED THEY LECTURED ME FOR 2 HRS A DAY ON THIS. I 
WOULD NOT!!!I TOLD THEM MY PROBLEM WAS FRUSTRATION BUT THEY SAID THEY HAVE 
NO BOX TO CHECK FOR THIS!!!
AN ARTICLE WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PSYCHOLOGY AND HEALTH NEWSLETTER, VOL.8 
ISSUE NO.2.  IT TELLS ONE HOW TO EAT WELL AND HOW TO WALK WELL FOR 
DEPRESSION.  I DID IT!! WHEN I FELT THE DEPRESSION COMING ON I WOULD GRAB 
ST. JOHN'S WART FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ATE BETTER AND I WAS OK.  IF YOU 
NEED THIS INFO. I CAN SEND YOU A COPY.
I STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES, FALLING DOWN AND DRIVING BUT I KNOW MY 
LIMITATIONS AND I ADDRESS THEM EAT RIGHT AND WALK .  A FEW DAYS AGO I WAS 
WALKING AND TALKING TO SOMEONE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE I WAS 
WALKING AND FELL FLAT ON MY FACE ON THE GRAVEL, I COULD NOT STOP MYSELF 
THE BRAIN HAD HAD ENOUGH.
ALL THE DOCS WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WITH DEPRESSION YOU LOOSE BRAIN 
CHEMICALS, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I LOST THEM AND HOW TO GET THEM BACK 
BUT ALL THEY WOULD SAY WAS DRUGS AND EVERYONE IN MY CLASS OF 20 BELIEVED 
THEM BUT NOT I.
p.s. I KNOW I PROBABLY HAVE MISSPELT WORDS AND MY WRITING IS NOT GOOD BUT 
PLEASE DO NOT CORRECT, AS SOMEONE DID THE LAST TIME.  IT TOOK DAYS TO 
WRITE THIS AS I CAN ONLY SPEND 2 MINUTES A DAY ON THE COMPUTER AND MY EYES 
AND BRAIN ARE SPENT.

-- Original message --
From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have 
had

health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been
diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy
procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.
What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use 
of

ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible,
unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks
Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost 
a

week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any
suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and
Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers. 
I

just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that
means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3
and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly 
behind
and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live 
now!

Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
Shannon

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CSRe: Re: CSI'm New!

[noblemetals]

Also get a hair analysis.  We live in a very toxic society. Do oral chelation 
anyway.  Use the Pauling protocol.  l-lysine  and vitamin C   1000mg. each 
together  every  2 hours  6 times a day.. According to the hair analysis, look 
a  EDTA with malic acid and (poppy seeds for nicklel.)  
 
 From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
 Date: 2006/06/01 Thu PM 12:25:37 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSI'm New!
 
 There's a lot of good information in these emails.  I don't want to get off 
 my one antidepressant I've been taking for awhile.  It makes a world of 
 difference in my life.  Once I ran out on a weekend when I couldn't get to 
 my pharmacy, and I missed 2 doses.  Someone said something to me that was 
 the teeniest bit offensive and I started crying.  Then I couldn't stop 
 crying and I cried so hard and so long that I had an upset stomach and a 
 migraine.  I was sitting on the bathroom floor throwing up with company 
 over.  I had to go to the emergency room and get a shot.  I will never go 
 through that again.  It reminded me of what my life was like before Celexa.
 When I don't have Celexa, my world falls apart.  If I didn't have Celexa, I 
 would be divorced and my poor little girls would be traumatized.  A doctor 
 did not tell me about Celexa.  I had several friends that swore by it, so I 
 asked the Doctor for a prescription.  I stopped freaking out at my husband 
 and getting mad at him, I'm much more laid back.  I don't have any side 
 effects that I am aware of, well at least, no undesireable side effects :).  
All my health problems came before I was on Celexa, nothing has really 
 changed otherwise.  I was told that Silver would cure fibromyalgia, and that 
 those that had fibromyalgia and had taken silver would vouch for that.  I 
 will look into the other things though.
 Shannon
 
 
 From: mborg...@att.net
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSI'm New!
 Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:40:30 +
 
 SHANNON,
 ALL OF THE INFORMATION  THE OTHERS GAVE YOU IS RIGHT ON, SO I WILL JUST 
 THROW IN MY INFORMATION.
 IBUPROFEN IS CAUSING THE ULCERS AS IT DID IN BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY  
 MOTHER-IN-LAW.
 FIBROMYALGIA IS CAUSED MY THE BODYS NEED FOR MINERALS IE. CALICUM WHICH IS 
 DEPLEATED BY THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND PREVACID.  WALKING IS THE BEST FOR IT 
 NOT ONLY HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION BUT ALSO WITH ADDING CALCIUM TO THE 
 BODY.  WHEN YOU WALK DO NOT WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR AT LEAST 20 MINUTES, THIS 
 HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION.
 GET OFF OF ALL DRUGS, THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS DO SO GRADUALLY.
 I KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AS I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT 12 YRS AGO AND COULD 
 NOT WALK, TALK, READ, WRITE OR WATCH TV OR LISTEN TO THE RADIO, AS I HAVE A 
 SEVERE BRAIN INJURY.  ALL THE DOCS SAID YOU CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE DRUGS.  
 I WOULD NOT!!! UNIVERSITY OF WASH. WANTED TO PUT ME IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION 
 TO REGULATE THE DRUGS!! NO WAY.
 I WENT TO VIRGINIA MASON HOSPITAL THAT SPECIALIZES IN BRAIN INJURIES, DRUGS 
 WERE ALSO THEIR CHOICE FOR THEY THINK THAT IF ONE HAS A BRAIN INJURY ONE 
 MUST BE DEPRESSED THEY LECTURED ME FOR 2 HRS A DAY ON THIS. I WOULD 
 NOT!!!I TOLD THEM MY PROBLEM WAS FRUSTRATION BUT THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO BOX 
 TO CHECK FOR THIS!!!
 AN ARTICLE WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PSYCHOLOGY AND HEALTH NEWSLETTER, VOL.8 
 ISSUE NO.2.  IT TELLS ONE HOW TO EAT WELL AND HOW TO WALK WELL FOR 
 DEPRESSION.  I DID IT!! WHEN I FELT THE DEPRESSION COMING ON I WOULD GRAB 
 ST. JOHN'S WART FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ATE BETTER AND I WAS OK.  IF YOU 
 NEED THIS INFO. I CAN SEND YOU A COPY.
 I STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES, FALLING DOWN AND DRIVING BUT I KNOW MY 
 LIMITATIONS AND I ADDRESS THEM EAT RIGHT AND WALK .  A FEW DAYS AGO I WAS 
 WALKING AND TALKING TO SOMEONE AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO WHERE I WAS 
 WALKING AND FELL FLAT ON MY FACE ON THE GRAVEL, I COULD NOT STOP MYSELF THE 
 BRAIN HAD HAD ENOUGH.
 ALL THE DOCS WILL TELL YOU IS THAT WITH DEPRESSION YOU LOOSE BRAIN 
 CHEMICALS, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW I LOST THEM AND HOW TO GET THEM BACK 
 BUT ALL THEY WOULD SAY WAS DRUGS AND EVERYONE IN MY CLASS OF 20 BELIEVED 
 THEM BUT NOT I.
 p.s. I KNOW I PROBABLY HAVE MISSPELT WORDS AND MY WRITING IS NOT GOOD BUT 
 PLEASE DO NOT CORRECT, AS SOMEONE DID THE LAST TIME.  IT TOOK DAYS TO WRITE 
 THIS AS I CAN ONLY SPEND 2 MINUTES A DAY ON THE COMPUTER AND MY EYES AND 
 BRAIN ARE SPENT.
   -- Original message --
 From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
   Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have 
 had
   health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been
   diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy
   procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic 
 colitis.
   What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use 
 of
   ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible,
   unbearable pain and 

Re: CSRe: CMO - 31 May

[Robert Berger]

Hi Sandee,
   
  Go to www.advnut.com/physiologics.htm It is product code PH12834 at $21.00 
for 60 caps.
   
  Ole Bob

Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
  Hi There Bob - where do you get the CMO pills from - I would like
to try them.
Regards
Sandee

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Re: CSMRSA

[Dan Nave]

Also have them put it on topically wherever they have an outbreak on the
skin.  Use some sort of gauze or cotton pad that can be kept wet with
CS.  Possibly add a few drops of DMSO to help it absorb and penetrate.

Dan



 Max Sanders mazsand...@yahoo.com 5/30/2006 11:49:18 PM 

I just received a report from some good friends that they have been
suffering with MRSA.  First the mom got it - thought it was a spider
bite, then the older child then the younger child and now dad.  I asked
if it was actually diagnosed, and they say it was.  They only just now
called me because the dad does not have insurance.  I wish they had
called me sooner.  I gave them what I had on hand that I make - approx
1/2 gal - and a tube of Tetrasil.  I told them to drink 2 oz every 2 - 4
hours with gatorade.  How does that sound for dosing?  At that rate they
will go through what I gave them fast.

So what is up with MRSA?  I never heard of it being passed to each
family member like that, though I know it is found in many places and
not so uncommon in hospitals and nursing homes. Does anyone have direct
or more scientific knowledge?  I am curious and cautious.  We have a new
baby in the house and wonder how infectious it really is - plus I would
like to assist my stressed friends.  






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Re: CSI'm New!

[M. G. Devour]

 ...  I don't want to get off my one antidepressant I've been taking for
 awhile.  It makes a world of difference in my life.  ... When I don't
 have Celexa, my world falls apart. 

Okay, Shannon! I'd say you'd put weaning yourself from the Celexa lower 
down on your list as you address your other issues with nutrition, 
cleansing, and supplements, first! grin

Don't do anything with your meds without careful study and at least 
warning your physician that you want to experiment. You'll have to get 
used to telling him/her what you want to do and being persistent until 
you get what you want. If they don't want to cooperate, fire them and 
get another that will.

Best of luck, and I hope you'll give us regular updates as you learn 
and try things. Ask anything health-related anytime.

Be well!

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CSI'm New!

[Raine]

Hi Shannon,

The ideal would be to figure out what is causing the depression and 
treat that, rather than just the symptoms. Imagine not having to fear 
running out of your antidepressant again!


Good to have ya with us. I'm excited for you!

-Raine

MATTHEW ARNOLD wrote:
There's a lot of good information in these emails.  I don't want to 
get off my one antidepressant I've been taking for awhile.  It makes a 
world of difference in my life.  Once I ran out on a weekend when I 
couldn't get to my pharmacy, and I missed 2 doses.  Someone said 
something to me that was the teeniest bit offensive and I started 
crying.  Then I couldn't stop crying and I cried so hard and so long 
that I had an upset stomach and a migraine.  I was sitting on the 
bathroom floor throwing up with company over.  I had to go to the 
emergency room and get a shot.  I will never go through that again.  
It reminded me of what my life was like before Celexa.
When I don't have Celexa, my world falls apart.  If I didn't have 
Celexa, I would be divorced and my poor little girls would be 
traumatized.  A doctor did not tell me about Celexa.  I had several 
friends that swore by it, so I asked the Doctor for a prescription.  I 
stopped freaking out at my husband and getting mad at him, I'm much 
more laid back.  I don't have any side effects that I am aware of, 
well at least, no undesireable side effects :).All my health 
problems came before I was on Celexa, nothing has really changed 
otherwise.  I was told that Silver would cure fibromyalgia, and that 
those that had fibromyalgia and had taken silver would vouch for 
that.  I will look into the other things though.

Shannon


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CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver protein IV

[zeb caffe]

Shannon, I was wondering if you have ever been treated for candida albicans? 
Also, do a search on lyme disease.These are two illnesses that can sometimes 
cause symptoms similar to yours.If you have any questions, please feel free to 
email me. I have had alot of experince with both.
  Does anyone have any information on the health benefits and or safety of 
silver protein IVs? Two of my friends are recieving these from different health 
care practioners and I am concerned. They are also but dont seem to get answers 
that give them confidence in this method of treatments.
  Also, has anyone on this forum heard about a product called silver formula 
oral/topical? Again, we are talking about a silver protein product with msm. It 
is put out by vitamin research who I have found to be very reputable. Thanks


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RE: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver protein IV

[MATTHEW ARNOLD]

No, I've never been treated for candida albicans, unless you mean just for 
yeast infections.  When I have yeast infections I have to take more than one 
diflucan.  But I haven't had a yeast infection in awhile.




From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver protein IV
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT)

Shannon, I was wondering if you have ever been treated for candida 
albicans? Also, do a search on lyme disease.These are two illnesses that 
can sometimes cause symptoms similar to yours.If you have any questions, 
please feel free to email me. I have had alot of experince with both.
  Does anyone have any information on the health benefits and or safety of 
silver protein IVs? Two of my friends are recieving these from different 
health care practioners and I am concerned. They are also but dont seem to 
get answers that give them confidence in this method of treatments.
  Also, has anyone on this forum heard about a product called silver 
formula oral/topical? Again, we are talking about a silver protein product 
with msm. It is put out by vitamin research who I have found to be very 
reputable. Thanks



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Re: CSMRSA

[sol]

You did not use EIS in any way as part of the treatment?
sol

ejohns9...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 5/31/2006 11:15:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
smcarn...@msn.com writes:


MRSA is Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureaus.

My grandson got it at school.  there was a rash of it at the beginning 
of the school year.  The doctor who did the culture told us there were 
many young kids with it.  We treated
it with ozone and ozonated oil.  The doc wanted to hospitalize him 
with intravenous
antibiotics.  
 




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Re: CSOzone

[M. G. Devour]

 Why are we so concerned about ozone in the environment
 and yet people are making it with home machines?

Ozone as a component of photochemical smog, produces the irritation 
that everybody talks about as it combines with the raunchy soup of 
chemicals in the air to produce who knows what.

If I remember correctly, when ozone is made by a plasma in room air the 
water vapor in the air combines with the nitrogen to produce traces of 
nitric acid vapor, which also causes irritation. Air purifiers that are 
designed to generate ozone need to limit the amount they produce to 
safe levels for this reason. 

Ozone made with pure dry oxygen in a medical ozone generator, is safe 
and very useful, so I hear, if you know what you're doing with it.  

It's a subject that is well worth studying in greater depth. The 
negative generalities you get from the authorities either ignore or 
purposely mis-state the conditions that cause irritation.

Be well,

Mike D.
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CS

[sol]

Well, as I said, I've taken my own homemade CS for almost 4 years and 
still have fibromyalgia. I think if my symptoms were due to Lyme disease 
or MS, as some people have found, I would have seen some improvement, as 
I have taken up to a quart of CS a day, and did that for about 2.5 
years. The reports I've seen on the silverlist all seem to indicate that 
if I had either of those conditions I would have seen at least some 
improvement from that much ingested silver over that long a time. Not 
perhaps a cure, but some improvement. In fact I had NO improvement in my 
major symptoms, except for my IBS (irritable bowel syndrome).


Many now think most fibromyalgia is genetic. And recent findings 
published by the CDC have indeed found some genetic causes for Chronic 
Fatigue. Dr. St. Amand says that in some 40 years of medical practice, 
he has never seen a patient with Chronic Fatigue who did not have 
Fibromyalgia so he believes they are the same condition.


Cleanses, and all the other things you have been recommended to try are 
all very well, and may help, but if this really is a genetic problem, 
they will certainly not cure it.


I don't think you should stop the Celexa. However, you may be interested 
to know that many people who are on the Guaifenesin Protocol, have (over 
years, not overnight) been able to reduce or stop such meds. For myself, 
I do what I know works. For example, I have here Trazodone, Cymbalta, 
Effexor, and even Chloral Hydrate. None worked, Cymbalta and Effexor had 
horrible side effects for me, but I can tell you that if any of them had 
worked, I'd be taking them!

sol

MATTHEW ARNOLD wrote:

There's a lot of good information in these emails. I don't want to get 
off my one antidepressant I've been taking for awhile. It makes a 
world of difference in my life. Once I ran out on a weekend when I 
couldn't get to my pharmacy, and I missed 2 doses. Someone said 
something to me that was the teeniest bit offensive and I started 
crying. Then I couldn't stop crying and I cried so hard and so long 
that I had an upset stomach and a migraine. I was sitting on the 
bathroom floor throwing up with company over. I had to go to the 
emergency room and get a shot. I will never go through that again. It 
reminded me of what my life was like before Celexa.
When I don't have Celexa, my world falls apart. If I didn't have 
Celexa, I would be divorced and my poor little girls would be 
traumatized. A doctor did not tell me about Celexa. I had several 
friends that swore by it, so I asked the Doctor for a prescription. I 
stopped freaking out at my husband and getting mad at him, I'm much 
more laid back. I don't have any side effects that I am aware of, well 
at least, no undesireable side effects :). All my health problems came 
before I was on Celexa, nothing has really changed otherwise. I was 
told that Silver would cure fibromyalgia, and that those that had 
fibromyalgia and had taken silver would vouch for that. I will look 
into the other things though.

Shannon



From: mborg...@att.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:40:30 +

SHANNON,
ALL OF THE INFORMATION THE OTHERS GAVE YOU IS RIGHT ON, SO I WILL 
JUST THROW IN MY INFORMATION.
IBUPROFEN IS CAUSING THE ULCERS AS IT DID IN BOTH MY MOTHER AND MY 
MOTHER-IN-LAW.
FIBROMYALGIA IS CAUSED MY THE BODYS NEED FOR MINERALS IE. CALICUM 
WHICH IS DEPLEATED BY THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND PREVACID. WALKING IS 
THE BEST FOR IT NOT ONLY HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION BUT ALSO WITH 
ADDING CALCIUM TO THE BODY. WHEN YOU WALK DO NOT WEAR SUNGLASSES FOR 
AT LEAST 20 MINUTES, THIS HELPS WITH THE DEPRESSION.

GET OFF OF ALL DRUGS, THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS DO SO GRADUALLY.
I KNOW WHERE I AM COMING FROM AS I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT 12 YRS AGO AND 
COULD NOT WALK, TALK, READ, WRITE OR WATCH TV OR LISTEN TO THE RADIO, 
AS I HAVE A SEVERE BRAIN INJURY. ALL THE DOCS SAID YOU CANNOT LIVE 
WITHOUT THE DRUGS. I WOULD NOT!!! UNIVERSITY OF WASH. WANTED TO PUT 
ME IN A MENTAL INSTITUTION TO REGULATE THE DRUGS!! NO WAY.
I WENT TO VIRGINIA MASON HOSPITAL THAT SPECIALIZES IN BRAIN INJURIES, 
DRUGS WERE ALSO THEIR CHOICE FOR THEY THINK THAT IF ONE HAS A BRAIN 
INJURY ONE MUST BE DEPRESSED THEY LECTURED ME FOR 2 HRS A DAY 
ON THIS. I WOULD NOT!!!I TOLD THEM MY PROBLEM WAS FRUSTRATION BUT 
THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO BOX TO CHECK FOR THIS!!!
AN ARTICLE WAS SENT TO ME BY THE PSYCHOLOGY AND HEALTH NEWSLETTER, 
VOL.8 ISSUE NO.2. IT TELLS ONE HOW TO EAT WELL AND HOW TO WALK WELL 
FOR DEPRESSION. I DID IT!! WHEN I FELT THE DEPRESSION COMING ON I 
WOULD GRAB ST. JOHN'S WART FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND ATE BETTER AND I 
WAS OK. IF YOU NEED THIS INFO. I CAN SEND YOU A COPY.
I STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY EYES, FALLING DOWN AND DRIVING BUT I 
KNOW MY LIMITATIONS AND I ADDRESS THEM EAT RIGHT AND WALK . A FEW 
DAYS AGO I WAS WALKING AND TALKING TO SOMEONE AND NOT PAYING 
ATTENTION TO WHERE I WAS WALKING AND FELL FLAT ON MY 

CSeven more, Re: CSI'm New!

[sol]

Sorry, I feel like I'm bombarding you, but I keep reading the replies to 
you with suggestions for the depression. It is obvious people are 
focusing on that and totally missing the PAIN. Geez, when I don't have 
pain I have NO depression. This is why I almost never mention my own 
fibromyalgia on this list, or to people in my life. They do not get 
it. Nobody knows what this is like unless they have lived it.

sol


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Re: CSMRSA

[EJohns9525]

 
No, he got a little scrape, then it got a pus pocket a few days later and  
then he 
came home from school and his knee and down to his ankle was red.  
I didn't have EIS but do have a medical ozone machine and a container of 
ozonated olive oil so I  bagged the leg for 30 to 45 min 3X daily and  
finished 
with the OOO.  After 3 days my daughter (who is a nurse) took him to  the Dr.
she used to work for and he did the culture.  We continued the  treatment and
4 days later another doctor (Orthopedic Surgeon)  pronounced him  well.
Edith
 
In a message dated 6/1/2006 3:18:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

You did  not use EIS in any way as part of the  treatment?
sol

ejohns9...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message  dated 5/31/2006 11:15:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
  smcarn...@msn.com writes:

 MRSA is  Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureaus.

 My grandson got it at  school.  there was a rash of it at the beginning 
 of the school  year.  The doctor who did the culture told us there were 
 many  young kids with it.  We treated
 it with ozone and ozonated  oil.  The doc wanted to hospitalize him 
 with intravenous
  antibiotics.  

CSAir Purifiers

[Marmar845]

Hi all!  I'm considering purchasing an air purifier -- an independent unit, 
not part of the HVAC system.  One that I'm looking at is a Fresh Air unit from 
Ecoquest International.  Anyone know anything about it?  Or have any 
alternative suggestions?  Thanks. MA

RE: CSAir Purifiers

[epatai]

hi,

Look into two main types. One that creates ozone and  without.



From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAir Purifiers
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:26:22 EDT

Hi all!  I'm considering purchasing an air purifier -- an independent unit,
not part of the HVAC system.  One that I'm looking at is a Fresh Air unit 
from

Ecoquest International.  Anyone know anything about it?  Or have any
alternative suggestions?  Thanks. MA




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CSOzone

[Pat]

Why are we so concerned about ozone in the environment
and yet people are making it with home machines?

   Pat

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RE: CSOzone

[epatai]

the rate at which we are destroying it out strips the capacity at which we 
can produce it. Home units can't compete with the destructive industrial 
machines and chemicals.




From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
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To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSOzone
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT)

Why are we so concerned about ozone in the environment
and yet people are making it with home machines?

   Pat

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CSRe:fibromyalgia - 1 June

[Sandee George]

Hi There Sol - have you tried the Mannatech Ambrotose - this has
been very effective for fibromyalgia - give it a try as constant pain
is no joke !
Regards
Sandee
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RE: CSOzone

[Pat]

Apparently Ozone in the higher layer of the atmosphere
is good, but ozone near us is not?  Ozone pollution is
known to be harmful.

How Ozone Pollution Works
by Craig C. Freudenrich, Ph.D   

Effects of Ozone
When you inhale ozone, it travels throughout your
respiratory tract. Because ozone is very corrosive, it
damages the bronchioles and alveoli in your lungs, air
sacs that are important for gas exchange (see How Your
Lungs Work for details). Repeated exposure to ozone
can inflame lung tissues and cause respiratory
infections.

Ozone exposure can aggravate existing respiratory
conditions such as asthma, reduce your lung function
and capacity for exercise and cause chest pains and
coughing. Young children and the elderly are most
susceptible to the high levels of ozone encountered
during the summer.

In addition to effects on humans, the corrosive nature
of ozone can damage plants and trees. High levels of
ozone can destroy agricultural crops and forest
vegetation. 
Pat

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RE: CSOzone

[epatai]

To get ozone poisoning it has to be in extremely high levels which home 
units will not produce.
Your furnace during heating or even wooden stove produces more polution the 
the ozone machine will ever come close too.


The home furnace produces enough hydrocarbons too seriously ill anyone who 
doesn't have the proper filtration and flute installed. The domestic home is 
a ces (spelling) pool for disease. staying in is what makes people sick not 
the cold.


like everything out there alway an under or over exageration to things. eg 
would be the CS topics discussed here.




From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSOzone
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:51:51 -0700 (PDT)

Apparently Ozone in the higher layer of the atmosphere
is good, but ozone near us is not?  Ozone pollution is
known to be harmful.

How Ozone Pollution Works
by Craig C. Freudenrich, Ph.D

Effects of Ozone
When you inhale ozone, it travels throughout your
respiratory tract. Because ozone is very corrosive, it
damages the bronchioles and alveoli in your lungs, air
sacs that are important for gas exchange (see How Your
Lungs Work for details). Repeated exposure to ozone
can inflame lung tissues and cause respiratory
infections.

Ozone exposure can aggravate existing respiratory
conditions such as asthma, reduce your lung function
and capacity for exercise and cause chest pains and
coughing. Young children and the elderly are most
susceptible to the high levels of ozone encountered
during the summer.

In addition to effects on humans, the corrosive nature
of ozone can damage plants and trees. High levels of
ozone can destroy agricultural crops and forest
vegetation.
Pat

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RE: CSAir Purifiers

[Carol Ann]

http://www.aquasunozone.com/product_kleenair_1.html

I have this one on Ed McCabes recommendation.  Works flawlessly. At times, I've 
kept it running day and night. 


epa...@sympatico.ca wrote: hi,

Look into two main types. One that creates ozone and  without.


From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSAir Purifiers
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:26:22 EDT

Hi all!  I'm considering purchasing an air purifier -- an independent unit,
not part of the HVAC system.  One that I'm looking at is a Fresh Air unit 
from
Ecoquest International.  Anyone know anything about it?  Or have any
alternative suggestions?  Thanks. MA



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RE: CSOzone

[Carol Ann]

Pat, 
I've been using a medical ozone generator for almost 4 yrs now.  I do 
inhalation...filtered through olive oil.  May I suggest that you do not believe 
all the hype until you have done some more extensive research.   Medicine 
men/women in Europe have been using successfully for years to treat all manner 
of illnesses...with great success. 

Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Apparently Ozone in the higher layer of 
the atmosphere
is good, but ozone near us is not?  Ozone pollution is
known to be harmful.   

How Ozone Pollution Works
by Craig C. Freudenrich, Ph.D 

Effects of Ozone
When you inhale ozone, it travels throughout your
respiratory tract. Because ozone is very corrosive, it
damages the bronchioles and alveoli in your lungs, air
sacs that are important for gas exchange (see How Your
Lungs Work for details). Repeated exposure to ozone
can inflame lung tissues and cause respiratory
infections.

Ozone exposure can aggravate existing respiratory
conditions such as asthma, reduce your lung function
and capacity for exercise and cause chest pains and
coughing. Young children and the elderly are most
susceptible to the high levels of ozone encountered
during the summer.

In addition to effects on humans, the corrosive nature
of ozone can damage plants and trees. High levels of
ozone can destroy agricultural crops and forest
vegetation. 
Pat

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Re: CSOzone.....The Story of Ozone

[EJohns9525]

 
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:21:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
saffiresk...@yahoo.com writes:

Pat,  
I've been using a medical ozone generator for almost 4 yrs now.  I do  
inhalation...filtered through olive oil.  May I suggest that you do not  
believe all 
the hype until you have done some more extensive  research.   Medicine 
men/women in Europe have been using  successfully for years to treat all manner 
of 
illnesses...with great success.  



_http://www.mmfnd.org/NL/ONN/WS/ozon004.html_ 
(http://www.mmfnd.org/NL/ONN/WS/ozon004.html) 
 
_http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/ozonenotsmog.html_ 
(http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/ozonenotsmog.html) 
 
 
I have too Pat..Edith

CSfibromyalgia

[zeb caffe]

sol. and others, have you also read about the research involving fibromyalgia 
and under diagnosed thryoid condition? Thyroid and hormones can also play a 
part in this. Fibro can also cause an inablility to break down fibrigin which 
causes pain. Enzymes can be helpful for this. Just my opinion but I still 
wouldnt rule out lyme,candida etc. just because silver had no effect on your 
symptoms.

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RE: CSfibromyalgia

[MATTHEW ARNOLD]

I have been told by a chiropractor that my fibromyalgia was from thyroid 
problems.  I took pills that he sold me that were pig thyroid but I didnt 
see any improvement.  I'm not ruling out anything at this point.

shannon



From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSfibromyalgia
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:59:59 -0700 (PDT)

sol. and others, have you also read about the research involving 
fibromyalgia and under diagnosed thryoid condition? Thyroid and hormones 
can also play a part in this. Fibro can also cause an inablility to break 
down fibrigin which causes pain. Enzymes can be helpful for this. Just my 
opinion but I still wouldnt rule out lyme,candida etc. just because silver 
had no effect on your symptoms.


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Re: CSAir Purifiers

[Marmar845]

In a message dated 6/1/2006 4:38:30 PM Central Standard Time, 
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
Look into two main types. One that creates ozone and  without.
Hi Ernie -- that's what I'm looking for:  input as to which is best, and why, 
etc.  I'm aware that there are two types -- I don't know why one would want 
ozone -- or not.  All of the air purifier sites are high on their own -- of 
course.  Do you have an opinion?   Thanks.MA

Re: CSCMO question was, Re: CSCMO results

[debbiegerard99]

Bob any side affect's that are noteworthy or dose cmo clash with any 
medication's? thanks debbie

-- Original message -- 
From: Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net 

Sol,

The protocol of 2 pills three times per day was established by the Eric Harborn 
Research foundation, so that is what I used and it worked for me.

Ole Bob

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:
My husband has been having lots of trouble with his knees and I've 
ordered CMO for him.

Robert writes he took the entire 60 pills over a 10 day period, then 
stopped and awaited results which showed up about 5 weeks later, but 
others seem to be saying they are taking far less per day but taking CMO 
daily over a period of many weeks to months.

Have I understood what people are saying correctly? Why so much 
variation in dosing?
thanks,
sol

Re: CSAir Purifiers

[epatai]

Mahmmm..well I have a good few of them around my place. I do have ozone 
with all and find it actually a pleasant fresh clean smell as oposed to the 
usually stuff floating around a typical home. well an ozone one may give you 
the option to use it or not. Most people who don't want ozone do so because 
of the scare tactics of the FDA or health Canada as in my case. You pay a 
little more for the added feature. I got mine up here in Toronto. I bought a 
good 5 office units and a home unit so the guy gave me a awesome discount. I 
still walked out paying around 800.00 for them. He assured me that the ozone 
produced by the machines were enought to kill any odors from whatever might 
be in the home but not enough to be a health concern. I'd have to look up 
the make and model to let you know. I don't have that info on hand as I'm at 
work.


Ernie



From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAir Purifiers
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:08:01 EDT

In a message dated 6/1/2006 4:38:30 PM Central Standard Time,
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
Look into two main types. One that creates ozone and  without.
Hi Ernie -- that's what I'm looking for:  input as to which is best, and 
why,

etc.  I'm aware that there are two types -- I don't know why one would want
ozone -- or not.  All of the air purifier sites are high on their own -- of
course.  Do you have an opinion?   Thanks.MA




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Re: CSAir Purifiers

[Marmar845]

In a message dated 6/1/2006 7:21:56 PM Central Standard Time, 
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
I bought a 
good 5 office units and a home unit so the guy gave me a awesome discount. I 
still walked out paying around 800.00 for them.
Wow -- $800.00 for all six of them???  The one that I'm looking at -- and 
it's a home unit -- is $700.00 for the one unit!  I imagine that makes it a 
good one -- but that's a lot of money.  Before I spend it, I'd like to know 
that I'm getting the most for my money.  I'd sure like to know the brand of the 
ones that you bought, when you have time.  Thanks.  MA

RE: CSfibromyalgia

[epatai]

From what I understand from my Homeopath. fybro and other escalating 
conditions such as MS are caused by the root CFS. If left long enough the 
CFS can develope into one of many condtions. it leave the CFS open to 
choosing if you may which disease it would like you to host.




From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSfibromyalgia
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:59:59 -0700 (PDT)

sol. and others, have you also read about the research involving 
fibromyalgia and under diagnosed thryoid condition? Thyroid and hormones 
can also play a part in this. Fibro can also cause an inablility to break 
down fibrigin which causes pain. Enzymes can be helpful for this. Just my 
opinion but I still wouldnt rule out lyme,candida etc. just because silver 
had no effect on your symptoms.


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Re: CSAir Purifiers

[epatai]

the largest of the 5 can clean a room the size of 500 sq ft. which I paid 
around 3-400 Canadian.

I'll get back to you on the model and stuff.

regards,

E



From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAir Purifiers
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:24:34 EDT

In a message dated 6/1/2006 7:21:56 PM Central Standard Time,
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
I bought a
good 5 office units and a home unit so the guy gave me a awesome discount. 
I

still walked out paying around 800.00 for them.
Wow -- $800.00 for all six of them???  The one that I'm looking at -- 
and

it's a home unit -- is $700.00 for the one unit!  I imagine that makes it a
good one -- but that's a lot of money.  Before I spend it, I'd like to know
that I'm getting the most for my money.  I'd sure like to know the brand of 
the

ones that you bought, when you have time.  Thanks.  MA




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RE: CSOzone

[Pat]

Ozone Generators Create Home Smog 
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=61972

So, now I've read that ozone kills bacteria and
viruses and can deodorize the air.  I wonder if there
is less disease during times of high pollution (aside
from lung problems), or does it just combine into
unhelpful chemicals?  Thanks for the links.  I
definitely need to do much more reading.

  Pat


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CSOzone

[Craig C Chamberlin]

Hi,

I have uploaded a zipped file which contains two documents written by
Dr. Saul Pressman about ozone and what it will cure. If you have any
additional questions after reading these two documents, you may contact
Dr. Pressman via his own list ozonether...@yahoogroups.com.

If I developed any kind of threatening disease, ozone treatment would
be my first choice.

http://www.itsmyplace.com/ozone/ozone.zip

Ciao,

Craig





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Re: CSCMO question was, Re: CSCMO results

[Robert Berger]

Debbie, Not that I am aware of.
   
  Ole Bob

debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote:
Bob any side affect's that are noteworthy or dose cmo clash with any 
medication's? thanks debbie
   

RE: CSOzone.....The Story of Ozone

[Wendy]

Me three. ;-)
 
We have a medical ozone generator we purchased from Saul Pressman at
Plasmafire (service and support has been over the top for the last 5
yrs) and we also use an Aranizer upstairs and it runs 24/7. 
 
Wendy
canada
 
 
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From: ejohns9...@aol.com [mailto:ejohns9...@aol.com] 
Sent: June 1, 2006 7:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOzone.The Story of Ozone
 
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:21:06 P.M. Central Standard Time,
saffiresk...@yahoo.com writes:
Pat, 
I've been using a medical ozone generator for almost 4 yrs now.  I do
inhalation...filtered through olive oil.  May I suggest that you do not
believe all the hype until you have done some more extensive research.
Medicine men/women in Europe have been using successfully for years to
treat all manner of illnesses...with great success. 
http://www.mmfnd.org/NL/ONN/WS/ozon004.html
 
http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/ozonenotsmog.html
 
 
I have too Pat..Edith

CS

[Patricia Gokey]

I'm a new subscriber. My information on the benefits of Colloidal Silver is 
limited. My main interest is how to help someone with Hep C and someone with 
post polio syndrome. Thank you so much!

Re: CSAir Purifiers

[epatai]

Ma,

Go to this site www.heavenfresh.ca

This will give you a good idea of what they have avail. :-)

I bought mine from them.

regards, E.



From: marmar...@aol.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAir Purifiers
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 20:24:34 EDT

In a message dated 6/1/2006 7:21:56 PM Central Standard Time,
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:
I bought a
good 5 office units and a home unit so the guy gave me a awesome discount. 
I

still walked out paying around 800.00 for them.
Wow -- $800.00 for all six of them???  The one that I'm looking at -- 
and

it's a home unit -- is $700.00 for the one unit!  I imagine that makes it a
good one -- but that's a lot of money.  Before I spend it, I'd like to know
that I'm getting the most for my money.  I'd sure like to know the brand of 
the

ones that you bought, when you have time.  Thanks.  MA




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Re: CSOzone

[Carol Ann]

Hi Mike,
My generator is corona discharge, is used with Oxygen and is quite safe. Tis 
true, as you say, the subject is well worth studying but one would have to look 
to beyond America, to European or Russian studies because there is very little 
available research in this country due to FDA and negative generalities. Like 
Silver as an agent of healing, it's been condemned due to the paucity of 
economic profit to be harvested by its denouncers.   

 Certainly, what one does generally find is info presented from a mfg or vendor 
perspective. Reasonable doubt as to its effectiveness on the part of those 
indoctrinated by agency propaganda and disinformation is very understandable. 
again, not unlike C Silver and the bad press its been up against for years.  
Some links worth perusing. 

http://www.rexresearch.com/ozonther/oz1.htm 

Medical ozone therapy is recognized in Bulgaria, Cuba, Czech Republic, French, 
Germany, Israel, Italy, Mexico, Romania and Russia. It is currently used 
legally in 16 Nations. At least 12 states in the USA ~ AK, AZ, CO, GA, MN, NY, 
NC, OH, OK, OR, SC and WA, and FL have passed legislation to ensure that 
alternative therapies are available to consumers. Physicians in those states 
can legally use ozone as an alternative treatment in their practice without 
fear of prosecution. 

http://www.unisi.it/ricerca/dip/fisiologia/personale/docenti/bocci.htm
http://www.campusi.com/author_Velio_Bocci.htm

http://www.triroc.com/sunnen/topics/hepc.htm

http://www.altered-state.com/healing/cancer.htm
http://www.appliedozone.com/references.html
http://www.appliedozone.com/references.html

Regards,
Carol Ann


M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: 

Ozone made with pure dry oxygen in a medical ozone generator, is safe
and very useful, so I hear, if you know what you're doing with it.  

It's a subject that is well worth studying in greater depth. The 
negative generalities you get from the authorities either ignore or 
purposely mis-state the conditions that cause irritation.

Be well,

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver protein IV

[G K Murray]

I think zeb was talking about systenic Candida Albicans, not just 
vaginal yeast.  This is yeast in the digestive tract, ears, blood, etc.  
I don't think one diflucan would be acire unless you have drastically 
changed your eating habits as well.   When fighting systemic yeast, 
sugar must be eliminated in all forms.  Fermented foods  and all high 
glycemic carbohydrates should be eliminated as well.   it takes months 
or even years to successful fight Candida.  Most allopathic Doctors 
think that systemic yeast is crap and wont even discuss it.


Check out this website:

http://www.candidadiet.com/therapist/candida_self_assessment_form.pdf
http://www.curezone.com/diseases/candida/

G Murray

MATTHEW ARNOLD wrote:

No, I've never been treated for candida albicans, unless you mean just 
for yeast infections.  When I have yeast infections I have to take 
more than one diflucan.  But I haven't had a yeast infection in awhile.




From: zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSsuggestions for shannon and question aabout silver 
protein IV

Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT)

Shannon, I was wondering if you have ever been treated for candida 
albicans? Also, do a search on lyme disease.These are two illnesses 
that can sometimes cause symptoms similar to yours.If you have any 
questions, please feel free to email me. I have had alot of experince 
with both.
  Does anyone have any information on the health benefits and or 
safety of silver protein IVs? Two of my friends are recieving these 
from different health care practioners and I am concerned. They are 
also but dont seem to get answers that give them confidence in this 
method of treatments.
  Also, has anyone on this forum heard about a product called silver 
formula oral/topical? Again, we are talking about a silver protein 
product with msm. It is put out by vitamin research who I have found 
to be very reputable. Thanks 






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Re: CSRe:fibromyalgia - 1 June

[sol]

No I have not tried it. It likely contains substances that block the 
action of the guaifenesin I am taking.  It has been discussed on a fibro 
list I belong to though, and though one person at least has tried, she 
could get enough information from the mfr. Depending on how the 
glyconutrients are processed from the sources it might be ok to take 
with guai or it might not, but they will not say what their process is. 
It does contain, according to the mfr representative she dealt with 
additional  proprietary ingredients that they will not disclose at 
all. My standard policy given that I have multiple allergies and 
senstivities is to use no product a mfr will not give me complete 
ingredient info for. It isn't worth the risk to me. And I am doing 
enough better with the guaifenesin not to want to risk blocking it.

Thanks for the thought though.

sol

Sandee George wrote:


Hi There Sol - have you tried the Mannatech Ambrotose - this has
been very effective for fibromyalgia - give it a try as constant pain
is no joke !
Regards
Sandee
www.mannatech.com

 




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RE: CSCMO question was, Re: CSCMO results

[Jim Holmes]

What is the dosage in each pill? 

 

TIA

 

Jim

 



 

-Original Message-
From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCMO question was, Re: CSCMO results

 

Sol,

 

The protocol of 2 pills three times per day was established by the Eric
Harborn Research foundation, so that is what I used and it worked for me.

 

Ole Bob

sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote:

My husband has been having lots of trouble with his knees and I've 
ordered CMO for him.

Robert writes he took the entire 60 pills over a 10 day period, then 
stopped and awaited results which showed up about 5 weeks later, but 
others seem to be saying they are taking far less per day but taking CMO 
daily over a period of many weeks to months.

Have I understood what people are saying correctly? Why so much 
variation in dosing?
thanks,
sol

RE: CSI'm New!

[Jim Holmes]

I agree.  Excellent advice. 

-Original Message-
From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net [mailto:noblemet...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:30 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSI'm New!

Find a good naturopath. Fire your allopath.  Do a colon cleanse, liver
cleanse, GB cleanse.  Get on a good green powder vitamin.  Walk 3 miles  3
times a week. Get some sun.  Drink 60 ounces of distilled water a day.
NEVER put another coke, microwaved food, dairy products in your body again.
Throw away your fluoride toothpaste. NEVER put any more sugar or aspertame
in your body again.   Do a parasite cleanse. Start at www.doctoryourself.com
www.herbdoc.comwww.hacres.com  Be well and prosper.  TJ
 
 From: MATTHEW ARNOLD smcarn...@msn.com
 Date: 2006/06/01 Thu AM 12:20:20 EDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSI'm New!
 
 Hi Everybody!  My name is Shannon and I live in Utah.  I am 26 and have
had 
 health problem after health problem all my life.  I have recently been 
 diagnosed with fibromyalgia.  Even more recently I have had endoscopy 
 procedures done and they found esophageal ulcers and Microscopic colitis.

 What is a particular concern of mine right now is the worry that my use of

 ibruprofen has caused my colitis.  My fibromyalgia causes such horrible, 
 unbearable pain and ibuprofen is the only thing that works.
 Marshalee brought me to this group and has me started on silver.  Thanks 
 Marshalee!  What a sweet woman.  So I have been taking silver for almost a

 week now and I hope so badly that this helps me.  If anyone has any 
 suggestions I would love to hear them.  I am on Celexa, Trazadone, and 
 Bupropion for Fibromyalgia/depression, and I have Prevacid for my ulcers.
I 
 just feel like I'm way too young to feel this bad, and I worry what that 
 means about the rest of my life.  I have two little girls, Catherine is 3 
 and Grace is nearly 1, I have to work full time and I am constantly behind

 and discouraged.  My depression is much better with Celexa, I can live
now!
 Anyway, I'm glad to try this and hope it helps.
 Shannon
 
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RE: CSeven more, Re: CSI'm New!

[Jim Holmes]

My sympathy Sol. 

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSeven more, Re: CSI'm New!

Sorry, I feel like I'm bombarding you, but I keep reading the replies to 
you with suggestions for the depression. It is obvious people are 
focusing on that and totally missing the PAIN. Geez, when I don't have 
pain I have NO depression. This is why I almost never mention my own 
fibromyalgia on this list, or to people in my life. They do not get 
it. Nobody knows what this is like unless they have lived it.
sol


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CSAllegations of serious neuropathy from CS

[Jim Holmes]

I spoke with an long-time friend today who is not a medical professional.  

 

She said she has a friend who's Trigeminal nerve was so damaged by home-mad
CS that it had to be severed to alleviate severe pain. .

 

The Doctor is a Naturopath.  I am in the process of getting contact
information, and will report when I have made contact with the Doctor. 

 

Sounds like pure bullshit to me, but I will find out what I can with due
diligence. 

 

 

Jim 

RE: CSpiezo electric gas lighter

[Jim Holmes]

There is an MD who has great success with electrically treating BR bites.
Search; I am too busy to sift through stacks of CDs. 

-Original Message-
From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 5:24 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSpiezo electric gas lighter

some time back, during the early days of brown recluse spider bites, 
someone mentioned re-configuring a piezo electric barbeque lighter to 
act like a stun gun, the purpose of which to zap insect/spider bites. 
does anyone have the info on this conversion

jim


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