Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Morning Neville, At 01:04 AM 11/3/2008, you wrote: You try to blow my mind, but have not done so yet. ( Very close at times ) current limiter, current limiter, current limiter..voltage controller, voltage controller, voltage controller! If you can't find the right dictionary, you may have to write one. NO!!!, Sorry, just thought about that and realised I should have said current LIMITER not CONTROLLER. Difference between 'control' and 'limit'. What is wrong with the term, Constant Current ? Voltage CONTROL is another story altogether. Voltage regulators are a dime a dozen, and been around many years. The first project I build in the early 60's was a solid state voltage regulator for a car. I was even amazed at how nice it worked. One power supply I designed and build had 5 Volt Regulated 12 Volt Regulated 16 Volts for a batter charger, all on the same board. Custom Circuit board, and it has my name painted on it at the factory that made the boards. I soldered all the parts together. Many are floating around the world. You can buy a single chip regulator, but it can be enhanced a bit by adding some components. [ Oh, I use a full wave bridge, no battery and no power supply. Now, . figure that one out. Wayne] Likely you could. Not even going to try Wayne, I'm down for the count by a TKO. Things aren't that quiet after all are they? g I thought I told you in the past, may not have Sooner or later, you have to get off the Theory Bandwagon. jump into the mud with your hip boots on, get dirty and bloody, like most of us have done. Learn the smell of melting components, ... then you are making some progress. grin Rome was not build in one day, nor was technicians, engineers, and nuts that build circuits and circuit boards. Want to know something really complicated, a software package that cost $ 25,000 that can route circuit boards and place all the components on the board. Not child's Play, nor child's play using it either. The software package will output an Autocad drawing, and output a special circuit required by the circuit board manufacturers. Nothing to it, all in a days work. Back in the days of the 486, I could start a task on Friday PM, and the software would still be working on Monday morning. How about that ? Now you have the secret plan, . go to work, my friend ! Wayne == -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller [You try to blow my mind, but have not done so yet. ( Very close at times )] -So long as I've only come 'close', I wouldn't want your head to explode on me Wayne.g [If you can't find the right dictionary, you may have to write one.] -I know what I mean, but need to use 'universal' language for electricity so others do. [What is wrong with the term, Constant Current ?] -Unfortunately I need to break my bad habits. I'm looking at it from the 'opposite end' if you like. I know resistors maintain constant current but I phrase things wrong. I'm looking at it from the angle that the current is LIMITED by the particular resistor in use, which in turn keeps the current constant. See what I mean, I say it 'limits' the current, which is right in a way but I need to learn the industry standard of phraseology rather than what's in my head. I'll work on it some more. g [Voltage regulators are a dime a dozen, and been around many years.] -Yep, there I go again, I should say voltage is REGULATED, not controlled, but you see what I mean, I don't think in terms of industry standards of terminology. I say the voltage is controlled, which it is from the angle I look at it, whereas I should say the voltage is REGULATED. Where did you say that dictionary was? g [Learn the smell of melting components, ... then you are making some progress.] -I would have thought with my high level of knowledge in electronics you would have realised that our house burnt down years ago and we live in a tent now. g I alluded to an appalling memory earlier, well I have been known to change a light fixture forgetting to isolate the mains power! Unfortunately for you lot I came out of it OK. g Cheers...Neville. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS(UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Subject: CSBrewing CS To all (especially new members) You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply using a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to maintain 1 mill amp rating. This can work with a lower voltage unit also, you can use 9 volts. You can seed the distilled water with some CS, you can also move silver closer together. If you use a 1 Mill Amp (controller) you will never get over 1 mill amp. This is where one of those cheap (less than $10) Volt Ohm meter comes in handy. Then you can get a cheap Laser light and see results or a meter. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
CSLemon Juice and the Teeth
I learned something interesting the other day while getting my teeth cleaned. My hygienist is very up on nutrition and actually eats right (unlike me who doesn't practice what I preach.) I asked her if drinking lemon juice in water would be harmful to my teeth. She said no, not if I follow a few guidelines.. Drink the lemon juice water in a relatively short amount of time, as with a meal. Don't sip it all through the day. Rinse the mouth with water when finished drinking. Do not brush teeth for 30 minutes after finishing the lemon water (or any acidic drinks). The enamel is soft at that time and brushing will remove more of it. It takes about 30 minutes for the enamel to return to normal hardness. So, do drink lemon juice in water to help make the body more alkaline. Pat
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Oh, I use a full wave bridge, no battery and no power supply. Now, . figure that one out. Wayne Some generator models use sunlight only. The sun is the power supply. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLemon Juice and the Teeth
Does vinegar do the same thing? I know folks who take 1 tb vinegar and water a few times a day. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:57 AM Subject: CSLemon Juice and the Teeth I learned something interesting the other day while getting my teeth cleaned. My hygienist is very up on nutrition and actually eats right (unlike me who doesn't practice what I preach.) I asked her if drinking lemon juice in water would be harmful to my teeth. She said no, not if I follow a few guidelines.. Drink the lemon juice water in a relatively short amount of time, as with a meal. Don't sip it all through the day. Rinse the mouth with water when finished drinking. Do not brush teeth for 30 minutes after finishing the lemon water (or any acidic drinks). The enamel is soft at that time and brushing will remove more of it. It takes about 30 minutes for the enamel to return to normal hardness. So, do drink lemon juice in water to help make the body more alkaline. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and sprains
Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N
RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Morning Wayne, You wrote: You try to blow my mind, but have not done so yet. ( Very close at times ) In order to blow your mind they would have to overcome the resistance first. That's what it is there for. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and sprains
Bromelain. Inflammation. About 3 years ago, after 2 gastroscopies, a gastroenterologist informed me that I have chronic inflammation of the upper GI tract. Chronic. I'm taking Prilosec every am. While I am better with the Prilosec than without it, I still have problems with foods, and being too full or not full enough, and with different medications. Clearly the Prilosec is not healing the inflammation. CS does not help either. Bromelain? I tried those 40 mg bromelain tablets with fructose, papaya and pineapple from the health store but they didn't seem to help much. Maybe I didn't take enough of them. I don't know if it is possible otheal a chronic upper GI tract inflammation. That doc just seems to think I have to live with it. Maybe I should find another gastroenterologist. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Neville wrote: maybe now's a good time to slip in a simple question, looking for a simple answer. CS generator containing 1 led and 1 resistor in circuit, is this current controlled or voltage controlled or both? If the circuit is powered by a battery or a wall transformer, this is what makes it voltage regulated. Not very good voltage regulation, but adequate for the use. The resistor, if sized properly, will have the effect of limiting the current since, as the current increases, it will cause some of the available voltage to be dropped across the resistor (some voltage is used forcing current thru the resistor) and less voltage is available to do work across the CS cell. This has the effect of turning down the total voltage across your cell. Strictly speaking, this would not be current controlled, but just current limited. Dan -Original Message- From: Neville [mailto:nevillem...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStest - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CStest Mike wrote: [If there are any new people with questions out there, just let 'em rip!] -Jeez I wish you hadn't said that Mike, (or maybe your going to wish you hadn't said that g), maybe now's a good time to slip in a simple question, looking for a simple answer. CS generator containing 1 led and 1 resistor in circuit, is this current controlled or voltage controlled or both? I dread starting this up again but as I quit my electronics courses a while back g I'll just ask the 'tradesmen' straight out. A simple yes/yes, yes/no, no/yes or no/no will suit fine. g That will be the end of it then. N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Resistance is the source of all grief. Read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:33 AM Subject: RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller Morning Wayne, You wrote: You try to blow my mind, but have not done so yet. ( Very close at times ) In order to blow your mind they would have to overcome the resistance first. That's what it is there for. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and sprains
Depends on why you have the inflammation. In the case of Steve Norton, his problem was caused by some sort of physical trauma. The bromelain will work for that, if taken in the correct amount. Dan -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and sprains Bromelain. Inflammation. About 3 years ago, after 2 gastroscopies, a gastroenterologist informed me that I have chronic inflammation of the upper GI tract. Chronic. I'm taking Prilosec every am. While I am better with the Prilosec than without it, I still have problems with foods, and being too full or not full enough, and with different medications. Clearly the Prilosec is not healing the inflammation. CS does not help either. Bromelain? I tried those 40 mg bromelain tablets with fructose, papaya and pineapple from the health store but they didn't seem to help much. Maybe I didn't take enough of them. I don't know if it is possible otheal a chronic upper GI tract inflammation. That doc just seems to think I have to live with it. Maybe I should find another gastroenterologist. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Also, it would be passive current limiting... Dan -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller Neville wrote: maybe now's a good time to slip in a simple question, looking for a simple answer. CS generator containing 1 led and 1 resistor in circuit, is this current controlled or voltage controlled or both? If the circuit is powered by a battery or a wall transformer, this is what makes it voltage regulated. Not very good voltage regulation, but adequate for the use. The resistor, if sized properly, will have the effect of limiting the current since, as the current increases, it will cause some of the available voltage to be dropped across the resistor (some voltage is used forcing current thru the resistor) and less voltage is available to do work across the CS cell. This has the effect of turning down the total voltage across your cell. Strictly speaking, this would not be current controlled, but just current limited. Dan -Original Message- From: Neville [mailto:nevillem...@bigpond.com] Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 10:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStest - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:55 AM Subject: Re: CStest Mike wrote: [If there are any new people with questions out there, just let 'em rip!] -Jeez I wish you hadn't said that Mike, (or maybe your going to wish you hadn't said that g), maybe now's a good time to slip in a simple question, looking for a simple answer. CS generator containing 1 led and 1 resistor in circuit, is this current controlled or voltage controlled or both? I dread starting this up again but as I quit my electronics courses a while back g I'll just ask the 'tradesmen' straight out. A simple yes/yes, yes/no, no/yes or no/no will suit fine. g That will be the end of it then. N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and sprains
I have no idea. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Depends on why you have the inflammation. In the case of Steve Norton, his problem was caused by some sort of physical trauma. The bromelain will work for that, if taken in the correct amount. Dan -Original Message- From: Faith Gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS and sprains Bromelain. Inflammation. About 3 years ago, after 2 gastroscopies, a gastroenterologist informed me that I have chronic inflammation of the upper GI tract. Chronic. I'm taking Prilosec every am. While I am better with the Prilosec than without it, I still have problems with foods, and being too full or not full enough, and with different medications. Clearly the Prilosec is not healing the inflammation. CS does not help either. Bromelain? I tried those 40 mg bromelain tablets with fructose, papaya and pineapple from the health store but they didn't seem to help much. Maybe I didn't take enough of them. I don't know if it is possible otheal a chronic upper GI tract inflammation. That doc just seems to think I have to live with it. Maybe I should find another gastroenterologist. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTainted Food Alert!
sol wrote: The concern and even fear comes from food products from china which have been tainted with it. Melamine may be fine as dishes, etc and other plastic goods, but it killed thousands of dogs and cats when added to gluten as a cheap filler, which gluten then ended up in animal foods. NO! You are talking about two different things that are being called the same name. Melamine polymer is totally non toxic, inert, safe, and has never killed anyone except by maybe a stack of dishes falling on them. What killed the animals and babies was NOT melamine polymer, but 1,3,5-triazine-2,4,6-triamine which unfortunately is also called melamine by people who can't pronounce the actual chemical name. Eating off melamine is very different from eating melamine. You can grind up melamine plates, and eat them. Other than possible constipation there would be no problems. A small amount of 1,3,5-triazine-2,4,6-triamine though could be deadly, they are NOT the same thing. Marshall Thanks for the explanation, very enlightening. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Melamine plastic is no different than any other plastic. They are almost all formed from toxic monomers, catalysts, or give off toxic compounds when curing. PVC is made from very toxic vinyl chloride, acrylic from toxic methyl methacrylate, polyethylene from highly poisonous ethylene, polystyrene from highly toxic styrene, polyester from polyester resin, toxic styrene and methyl ethyl keytone peroxide which is especially nasty. Then you have things like polyurethane which is basically made from urine, but forms formaldehyde when it cures and outgasses heavily. In addition many plastics, such as PVC (but not melamine) have plasticizers in them that diffuse out and are mimics of estrogen. Melamine and polyethylene are probably the least problematical of these as far as having anything left over which might diffuse out later, and Melamine probably has the least toxic monomer of any of them. So I don't understand the criticism of melamine when most of the other plastics are really much worse. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and sprains
Thanks Dave. I will try the Bromelain. The DMSO really kept the initial swelling down. At 1.5 grams a dose, I will need to look for a source of bulk Bromelain. The tablets I do have won't get me there for long. - Steve From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N
Re: CSCS and sprains
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:04:26 -0500 Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: I have no idea. Have you considered tea, coffee, white flour, white sugar, food additives, or food allergies as possible culprits? Chronic inflammation sounds like something in your diet or environment is disagreeing with you. Cheers, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Morning Faith, At 09:48 AM 11/3/2008, you wrote: Resistance is the source of all grief. Read The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. What a statement ! Too General to be true. You could easily mislead the Un Knowing ! I am sure it was not meant to be relative or associated to electrical circuits in any way, shape, form or fashion. As you may have intended, and Dan stated, Resistance to my mind. Even then, it is not a source of grief, but a source of power. Now, for your benefit, and maybe others, the importance of resistance to electrical circuits. It is the essence of all circuits, and comes in many forms, Plain old resistance, inductive reactance, capacitive reactance, wire resistance, and a few more. Resistance produce Watts, the unit of measuring electrical work. How important is resistance ? Consider a short circuit ( zero resistance, or nearly so ) it can burn your house down, explode your car, sink a ship, or crash a plane, and kill you in many ways. At certain times, Body Resistance is the most important of all. ( not brain resistance ) If you do not understand that, and the reasons, then BEWARE, an Be careful. Another very important term, many understand is... Fault Current Again, Beware of it. I have been working at new industrial sites, hear a loud BANG, and often some one was killed by Fault Current. Once, due to an oversight, I was installing a new electrical panel. The old one must have been 75 years old.The electrical meter was laying on the ground. That bogus old panel confused me, I worked on the new one all evening, with FULL Fault current from the pole and transformer connected into my new panel. I never drew an arc, never felt a single shock. One mistake and I would have been DEAD, Very Dead, in .1 second. Due to the way I work, and the way I have trained myself, I am still alive. Yes, I connect power lines right off the pole, services and feeders, with full fault current ready to kill me. But I do it right, ( if a right way exists ) and I am still alive to prove it. Wayne Just a dumb old redneck that barely knows AC from DC, and Resistance from Fault Current = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLemon Juice and the Teeth
Pat wrote: I learned something interesting the other day while getting my teeth cleaned. My hygienist is very up on nutrition and actually eats right (unlike me who doesn't practice what I preach.) I asked her if drinking lemon juice in water would be harmful to my teeth. She said no, not if I follow a few guidelines.. Drink the lemon juice water in a relatively short amount of time, as with a meal. Don't sip it all through the day. Rinse the mouth with water when finished drinking. Do not brush teeth for 30 minutes after finishing the lemon water (or any acidic drinks). The enamel is soft at that time and brushing will remove more of it. It takes about 30 minutes for the enamel to return to normal hardness. So, do drink lemon juice in water to help make the body more alkaline. Pat Yes. When I eat out I always order a water with lemon. Most of the time the refills do not come with a lemon, so that is exactly what I do, without even trying to. It not only helps keep the body alkaline, but helps prevent kidney stones as well. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS and sprains
I should have referred to the Bromelain strength in GDU (gelatin dissolving units) instead of grams , but in my experience they came to about the same thing eg: 600 GDU was about 500 milligrams. You don't really have to go in for bulk, just one run-of-the-mill bottle should do it. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Thanks Dave. I will try the Bromelain. The DMSO really kept the initial swelling down. At 1.5 grams a dose, I will need to look for a source of bulk Bromelain. The tablets I do have won't get me there for long. - Steve From: Dan Nave [mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS and sprains Don't know about CS helping, but you should keep some Bromelain around for use in these cases. Sure, use the DMSO, but also start taking Bromelain heavily at first and then tapering off to a maintenance dose for a while. Start with 1.5 grams 3 times a day and then taper off to about 1.5 grams per day. Take on a relatively empty stomach with water. Doses aren't critical, as long as you take enough, you may have to experiment. As for most inflammation, it works best if taken immediately, if you wait too long you are already inflamed, but in the case of a sprained ankle, it may not be too late to start even after a few days. Dan From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 6:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS and sprains I just sprained an ankle and applied DMSO to keep the swelling down. Would taking extra CS aid in healing the sprain? - Steve N
CSCS testing
Hi, just wondering if anyone out there gets there CS tested frequently, and where they test it. I am looking for a cheaper place. So far, the cheapest place chargest around $150. for complete testing. I have been selling it for almost 6 months, but feel that I should know exactly what ppm, amount of ions vs. particles and perhaps particle size, too. Do you think it would be sufficient to buy a hanna meter or something like that and just figure out what percentage of ions I have? Because I'm selling it, should I get as much info as possible about it? Are there any regulations that I haven't heard about that require it to be tested if I'm selling it? Thanks - Beth Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for thousands of years! (907) 357-8954
Re: CStest
Neville The circuit you describe is not controlled. Go back to your courses Chuck Let's all get together and sing pumpkin carols. On 11/2/2008 11:12:30 PM, Neville (nevillem...@bigpond.com) wrote: CS generator containing 1 led and 1 resistor in circuit, is this current controlled or voltage controlled or both? I dread starting this up again but as I quit my electronics courses a while back g I'll just ask the 'tradesmen' straight out. A simple yes/yes, yes/no, no/yes or no/no will suit fine. g That will be the end of it then. N. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: 11/3/2008 4:59 PM
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
- Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller Dan wrote: [Strictly speaking, this would not be current controlled, but just current limited.] I need to work on terminologies Dan. Got some bad phrasing habits which is why I get into so much trouble, I know what I mean but the way I express it needs considerable improvement to conform with industry standard terms of definition. Cheers...N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStest
- Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: CStest Quote: [The circuit you describe is not controlled. Go back to your courses] -Yep, I'm thinking about re-enrolling Chuck. I'm taking a dictionary with me this time, and when I think of a phrase I will look it up to see how it SHOULD be phrased. g N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
Neville, Just call it the Nevillizer Circuit and when others ask for more information on it just say I would like to tell you about it but the circuit is proprietary to Neville Industries and I cannot :) BTW, I had an adjustable current limiter in my circuit but it was mostly good for protecting my power supply and current meter. I've since removed it and just take care in hooking up the generator. Rather than limiting circuits, I've increased the ability to handle higher currents by adding additional silver electrodes which can use the higher currents. A simple plastic square bar with plastic clips allows me to parallel as many silver bars or wires as can fit across the jar opening. I think that increasing electrode surface area has the highest payoff for the effort. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Neville [mailto:nevillem...@bigpond.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller - Original Message - From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:12 AM Subject: RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller Dan wrote: [Strictly speaking, this would not be current controlled, but just current limited.] I need to work on terminologies Dan. Got some bad phrasing habits which is why I get into so much trouble, I know what I mean but the way I express it needs considerable improvement to conform with industry standard terms of definition. Cheers...N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSupper gi tract inflammation
Hi indi: I use no caffein and very little sugar or white flour. I eat whole grains. thanks,. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSHot water for making colloidal silver
I am confused about the best temperature for making SMALL particle colloidal silver. Some websites say to use very hot water, some sites say to use room temperature water. Different websites claim small particles for using hot or cold water. Which is true? and how do I know for sure? If I have a DC silver generator, do I need to use hot water? Am I making the particles large by heating my water. I still have absolutely clear CS when I do heat my water almost to the boiling point. Thanks for the help - Beth Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for thousands of years! (907) 357-8954
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
- Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:24 AM Subject: RE: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller Steve wrote: [Nevillizer Circuit] -Yeah, nobody else would understand my circuitry, only me. g [A simple plastic square bar with plastic clips allows me to parallel as many silver bars or wires as can fit across the jar opening. I think that increasing electrode surface area has the highest payoff for the effort. - Steve N] -I'm going to put 4 banana plugs in one of my boxes one day so I have 4 electrodes instead of 2. Effectively this would shorten production time when making a 2 litre batch, which is probably the only time I would use it. I've decided it is not viable to make too much only to be put in storage, (for the purpose I use it that is), as the ionic/particulate ratio changes during stabilization time frame and I want to keep that change to an absolute minimum. I know there is a lot written about particles and surface area but I have my own views on that. Now as you know, I am not a sparky hence I know nothing about electronic gizzmos and gadgetry but is there a way to determine the rpm of a computer fan? I have a, dare I say, 'mains power/DC converter variable voltage regulator', (yeah I know, I am probably phrasing it wrong again g), and would like to work out the rpm of my magnetic stirrer at the various voltage settings. I think you call these 'wall warts' or something? No dramas if it can't be done as I only have a welder, a hammer and a screwdriver in my electronics toolbox, (I've found the hammer to be quite useful though) g Just thought I would ask. N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:59:07 +1030 Neville nevillem...@bigpond.com wrote: -I'm going to put 4 banana plugs in one of my boxes one day so I have 4 electrodes instead of 2. Effectively this would shorten production time when making a 2 litre batch, which is probably the only time I would use it. An interesting idea you and Steve have brought up. I hope you'll let us know what the results are. I've decided it is not viable to make too much only to be put in storage, (for the purpose I use it that is), as the ionic/particulate ratio changes during stabilization time frame and I want to keep that change to an absolute minimum. I know there is a lot written about particles and surface area but I have my own views on that. Now as you know, I am not a sparky hence I know nothing about electronic gizzmos and gadgetry but is there a way to determine the rpm of a computer fan? I have a, dare I say, 'mains power/DC converter variable voltage regulator', (yeah I know, I am probably phrasing it wrong again g), and would like to work out the rpm of my magnetic stirrer at the various voltage settings. I think you call these 'wall warts' or something? No dramas if it can't be done as I only have a welder, a hammer and a screwdriver in my electronics toolbox, (I've found the hammer to be quite useful though) g Just thought I would ask. N. A wall wart is a power supply transformer and mains plug in one unit. Hopefully there's still a part number on the fan. If so, you can google the specs and find the rpm and voltage ratings. Of course, you could also just use a potentiometer to vary the voltage and eyeball it. Very generally, I think the spec will usually be something like 12k to 20k RPM at 5VDC (I can't remember the amperage, but a quick check of a compatible computer power supply will give you that) for many computer case fans. BTW, you may find the torque required to move an object through liquid to be too much for that kind of motor, but I could be wrong about that. Shaft balance is a big deal for the bearings, too. But if you've already got the parts, you could give it a shot. Cheers, indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDefinite Terms and their meanings
Eveniong indi, At 10:25 PM 11/3/2008, you wrote: A wall wart is a power supply transformer and mains plug in one unit. You lost some creditability on that statement. You have been taking too many lessons from Neville. You used a term that is meaningless, and actually is contradictory within itself. ( power supply transformer ) Some are not in fact power supplies. If you consider the first two words to be a term, which they are, and define, make clear, or enhance the other word, .. it would then be definite. Not sure you intended the phrase that way. Very much like the tern, aerobic oxygen. Which is closer to fuzzy logic than a meaningful term. Then the wall wart is indefinite also, could mean different things. Could be your fingers slipped, and you left out a key word or two. That is usually what happens to me. grin You have not been on the list very long, unless you used a different name. Before then, I made the statement, I know about Wall Warts, and I have used many, many thousands of them. likely more anyone on the list Maybe even 10,000. They are much better than they used to be, many sizes and ratings, and clearly labeled. My old redneck teacher said, Call a Spade, a Spade, and nothing else. Most wall warts are clearly labeled, and should be called what they are, not something Indefinite.Why not ? mains plug in one unit. Having a hard time figuring out what that means. Wayne Be nice to beginners, try not to confuse them by using indefinite terms, Some will be confused enough, when you use the exact right terms === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSimple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller
indi quote: [A wall wart is a power supply transformer and mains plug in one unit.] -I've done it again, I meant to say AC/DC converter, if that's what a wall wart is then that's it indi. [Hopefully there's still a part number on the fan. If so, you can google the specs and find the rpm and voltage ratings. Of course, you could also just use a potentiometer to vary the voltage and eyeball it. Very generally, I think the spec will usually be something like 12k to 20k RPM at 5VDC (I can't remember the amperage, but a quick check of a compatible computer power supply will give you that) for many computer case fans.] -That gives me something to work on, thanks. That's a common old volume control knob or rheostat isn't it? Yeah, I may just play around with one of those and have a go at that, what with my 'skills' in electronics g I shouldn't have too much trouble hooking up a multimeter to check voltage at different settings or positions. Just had a thought, if I can find a counter of some sort I can just stick a match or something to one of the fan blades and hold the counter to it and find out that way, well dependant on how hard the counter 'clicks' around that is. Good thinking 99. [BTW, you may find the torque required to move an object through liquid to be too much for that kind of motor, but I could be wrong about that. Shaft balance is a big deal for the bearings, too.] -Nah, they work fine indi, I've made several using the magnet out of the hard drive and the fan as the stirrer motor. I think the lowest setting on the adapter I have is 3.5v which is not enough, (you're sort of half right there), the lowest which works is 4.5v. Now I just use a straight 9.3v one. There's a lot of talk about stirring speeds but I'm happy with 9.3v, besides I haven't got the patience for weeks of testing various voltages anyway so I put the variable one back in the draw, may play around with voltage, (for spinning speed), again one day though and take some notes on resultant solutions. The tricky bit is locating the magnet central on the fan so the fan doesn't self destruct over time cos of excess wobble, (which would be your 'big deal' concerning the bearings), I've been using one now for around 8-10 months and is still an excellent magnetic stirrer, hasn't self destructed yet. I've been checking out speaker magnets to see if they would work also cos they are round, but the speakers I have ripped apart have magnets which I think are too thick, the hard drive ones are thin but have a very strong magnetic field. Cheers...N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDefinite Terms and their meanings
- Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 4:03 PM Subject: CSDefinite Terms and their meanings Hi Wayne, Quote: [You have been taking too many lessons from Neville.] -I knew what indi meant, I read between the lines, see, maybe there is someone else who talks my language g or perhaps it's just my poor diction or phrasing is contageous? Quick, where's a bottle of CS...double strength! g N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTainted Food Alert!
Marshall Dudley wrote: NO! You are talking about two different things that are being called the same name. Melamine polymer is totally non toxic, inert, safe, and has never killed anyone except by maybe a stack of dishes falling on them. What killed the animals and babies was NOT melamine polymer, but 1,3,5-triazine-2,4,6-triamine which unfortunately is also called melamine by people who can't pronounce the actual chemical name. AHA! Thanks! You can grind up melamine plates, and eat them. Other than possible constipation there would be no problems. A small amount of 1,3,5-triazine-2,4,6-triamine though could be deadly, they are NOT the same thing. So, what about the melamine scrub pad thingees, which one are they? This plastic name confusion is as bad as plants. thanks more, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDefinite Terms and their meanings
Morning Neville, [You have been taking too many lessons from Neville.] -I knew what indi meant, I read between the lines, That is not good enough for indefinite things. Tell me what he meant ! see, maybe there is someone else who talks my language g or perhaps it's just my poor diction or phrasing is contageous? Maybe you need to share the dictionary you are working on, and we will all know the definitions of many things. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDefinite Terms and their meanings
Evening Wayne, Sorry, but you are very much mistaken on that. On many of the old vacuum tube audio circuits I've worked on there are power supply transformers and there are output transformers. Mix them up and sparks may fly! In fact, some amp circuits even use a third transformer -- a much smaller one called a choke, which is used as an inductor. So I am accustomed to being specific about it, though there is no output transformer or choke in a CS generator AFAIK. You can call me old and dated, or even pedantic, but the term is still certainly correct. If you don't believe me, go check out the RCA circuits from the 40s and 50s -- the original circuits that amplifiers made by legends like Leo Fender, Jim Marshall, and Dick Denny were based upon. Also, the power supply usually consists of a bit more than just the transformer, which is the main, but not only, component. There is often at least rectifier circuitry involved, and sometimes filtering capacitors as well in a quality design. Cheers, indi On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:33:40 -0600 Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com wrote: Eveniong indi, At 10:25 PM 11/3/2008, you wrote: A wall wart is a power supply transformer and mains plug in one unit. You lost some creditability on that statement. You have been taking too many lessons from Neville. You used a term that is meaningless, and actually is contradictory within itself. ( power supply transformer ) Some are not in fact power supplies. If you consider the first two words to be a term, which they are, and define, make clear, or enhance the other word, .. it would then be definite. Not sure you intended the phrase that way. Very much like the tern, aerobic oxygen. Which is closer to fuzzy logic than a meaningful term. Then the wall wart is indefinite also, could mean different things. Could be your fingers slipped, and you left out a key word or two. That is usually what happens to me. grin You have not been on the list very long, unless you used a different name. Before then, I made the statement, I know about Wall Warts, and I have used many, many thousands of them. likely more anyone on the list Maybe even 10,000. They are much better than they used to be, many sizes and ratings, and clearly labeled. My old redneck teacher said, Call a Spade, a Spade, and nothing else. Most wall warts are clearly labeled, and should be called what they are, not something Indefinite.Why not ? mains plug in one unit. Having a hard time figuring out what that means. Wayne Be nice to beginners, try not to confuse them by using indefinite terms, Some will be confused enough, when you use the exact right terms === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
