date:20081105

CS>Movidyn-Colloidal Silver

2008-11-05 Thread Neville

I have an article here relating to Movidyn, (powdered form of colloidal 
silver), which the Russians discovered killed their entire arsenal of germ 
warfare bacteria, it also took out their newest designer poisons, (whatever 
they may have been as the article relates to the 1950's).  The article also 
states the Japanese intended to conquer Australia by releasing rats infected 
with bubonic plague, cholera, anthrax, typhoid and hemorrhagic fever.  No 
mention of Botulinum or Fancisella Tularensis bacteria though, I wonder if they 
were around back then?  Haven't done any searching on these yet but wonder if 
these were some of the Ruskies 'newest designer poisons', or perhaps our own 
even?

Can't vouch for the articles' authenticity, but I don't doubt any of it for one 
moment, I only included it here as it relates to CS, allbeit in a different 
form to what we manufacture.

N.

CS>[List Owner] Back on the air...

2008-11-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Hi gang,

We're back on the air now.

There is still a chance some folks will be reading their mail tomorrow 
and respond to the political nonsense before seeing my posts.

DO NOT RESPOND TO THEM! 

Thank you!

Politics are prohibited, and don't y'all forget it! 

I've also found out how ineffectual several details of this mailing 
list setup are... There may be several posts that I was not able to 
forward properly. If you haven't already seen something appear that you 
posted in the last few hours, please re-send it.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Be well,

Mike Devour
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Re: CS>[List Owner] Still in moderated mode for now...

2008-11-05 Thread Wayne Fugitt


Evening Mike,

>> At 02:16 PM 11/5/2008, you wrote:

I'm sending along the on-topic posts that have come in during the 
last  couple of hours...


  Does everybody get  ONE?

  The problem is, I can't think of anything to say.  

  Nothing worth a plug nickel anyway.

   Wayne

 



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Re: CS>[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals

2008-11-05 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Beta glucan is also reported to be a very broad-spectrum treatment for 
biological warfare agents as well as radiation weapons.   There is 
published, peer-reviewed double-blind data on this.   The substance as 
powder is now available at very modest cost.


It would be good to know if there is any source of some kind of 
super-concentrated vitamin C, formulated for emergency preparedness.   
There are so many kinds of C that it's hard to know which is best 
(ascorbyl palmitate comes to mind as one I've heard recommended), but 
I've never come across any "super C" from any vendor.   Vitamin D can 
reportedly be injected in very large does, something I heard about only 
days ago.   Could there be any kind of injectable C on offer, perhaps 
as an atropine-type injector?








On Thursday, Nov 6, 2008, at 10:16 Asia/Tokyo, Pat wrote:

I use this forum to encourage the list members to SERIOUSLY consider 
the employment of


sufficient quantities of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) on a daily basis 
(5000 mg to 10,000 mg) up to "bowel tolerance".as insurance 
against a majority of opportunistic pathogens, presently existent in 
our environment. This recommendation is one of good diet...and in no 
way whould be regarded as medical adviceIN ANY FORM.



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Re: CS>[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals

2008-11-05 Thread Malcolm

Hi Rowena;

Well, I didn't see it 'til "repost", so perhaps it slid down under to
you before it was blown around the side to us (or me, anyhow)  
 
Biological warfare-terrorism is probably more likely in the future than
nuclear; sneakier, cheaper and leaves more of your target's resources
intact for plunder.  Also bugs can be intensely debilitating to their
victims, tieing up resources to keep them alive, as it spreads.  And, as
Slick Willie noted: "It's the gift that keeps on giving."

Two books on our progress in the craft:  "Lab 257" and "Plum Island"

And, as always; Thanks to you Brooks! for your suggestions for relief
from the effects of these disgusting weapons.

On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 12:42 +0900, Rowena wrote:
>  
> Yes Brooks, Your original post did come through.
> Food for thought indeed.
> Good wishes
> Rowena
> - Original Message - 
> From: brooks76009 
> To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:58 AM
> Subject: CS>[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals
> 
> 
> 
> This is a re-post, would someone let me know if my original
> post of this morning was ever 
> received on-list. I have no evidence that it went through. I
> seldom post, these days, and when I do I believe it to be of
> some substance. Since my available time for such is quite
> limited, it is somewhat discouraging.if, indeed, this post
> did not come through. 
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley 
> 
> 
> 
> Devour 


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CS>[List Owner] Still in moderated mode for now...

2008-11-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Hi all,

I've still got the list on moderated mode for a bit longer. Most of the 
miscreants have caught up and figured out what's going on. 

I'm sending along the on-topic posts that have come in during the last 
couple of hours...

Thanks for your patience!

Mike Devour
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Re: CS>Simple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller

2008-11-05 Thread Bruce Anderson


Greetings Gents;
I don't understand the need for speed :>}  I make an eight and a half 
liter batch.  I turn it on while using the computer.  Check it when I 
think about it.  Stop it when it's >20 +  the starting ppm.  Takes 
between 6 and 8 hours.  Makes clear EIS with a fine tyndle and last me 
for weeks.  I use a 130adc homemade generator with stirring.  Do I still 
need speed?? :-)

Bruce A.

Norton, Steve wrote:

indi,
It is not an original idea at all. Many have done this already and Ode
will even build you a custom generator with multiple electrodes if you
want to order one such. I have looked at a number of options to increase
the speed at which one can speed up CS generation: HVAC, HVDC (microwave
mod), closer electrodes, CS starter, heated water, silver citrate. I
even bought a used microwave to modify but for now I have settled on
more silver electrodes with CS starter as the approach. And I have found
it easy to implement. I only generate for personal use or to give away
to family/friends so my needs are not excessive. 
So far I like it. As I mentioned in a previous post, I retired my

constant current source (CCS) limiter. One day I may increase my DC
voltage source and revive the CCS. Currently I use 38 VDC because it was
readily available. I do some manual current limiting by varying the
electrode distance and sometimes by raising one of the negative
electrodes partially out of the solution. The plastic clips I use makes
this easy to do. I do monitor the electrode current continuously.
I do not use alternating voltage polarization. At the moment I am saving
the resulting silver oxide to experiment with.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:26 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Simple CS Generator, Sophisticated Controller

On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:59:07 +1030
"Neville"  wrote:


  

-I'm going to put 4 banana plugs in one of my boxes one day so I have
4 electrodes instead of 2.  Effectively this would shorten production 
time when making a 2 litre batch, which is probably the only time I 
would use it.



An interesting idea you and Steve have brought up.
I hope you'll let us know what the results are.


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RE: CS>Vitamin D vs. Influenza

2008-11-05 Thread Dianne France


Got it..thank you.  Made a hard copy for my husband who always gets a 
flu shot.
 
Dianne



Subject: RE: CS>Vitamin D vs. InfluenzaDate: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:34:48 
-0600From: stephen.nor...@ngc.comto: silver-list@eskimo.com


 

Go here: http://www.rockcreekfreepress.com/CreekV2No11-Web.pdf and look at page 
2 .
 - Steve 


From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 
November 05, 2008 6:40 AMTo: silver-listSubject: RE: CS>Vitamin D vs. Influenza
I couldn't find the article at rockcreekfreepress.com.  Saw a lot of other 
articles one on aspartane and another on mercury but nothing on Vit D.Dianne> 
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:38:23 +0900> From: jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp> To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com> Subject: CS>Vitamin D vs. Influenza> > The November 
issue of Rock Creek Free Press > (http://www.rockcreekfreepress.com/), 
downloadable as a pdf, has an > essential article arguing that vitamin D3 is a 
powerful anti-viral to > be taken during flu season. Written by an MD, it 
presents a plausible > hypothesis that low levels of sunlight, needed to 
convert cholesterol > in skin to vitamin D, explains the onset of "flu season." 
This is one > to print out and save as hardcopy.> > > > > > --> The Silver List 
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CS>[FW]Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals

2008-11-05 Thread brooks76009

This is a re-post, would someone let me know if my original post of this morning was ever
received on-list. I have no evidence that it went through. I seldom post, these days, and when I do I believe it to be of some substance. Since my available time for such is quite limited, it is somewhat discouraging.if, indeed, this post did not come through.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley

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Subject : Recent Research on Weaponized Biologicals
Date : Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:53:12 -0500 (EST)
From : "brooks76009"
To :

Based upon evidence exhibited by most of the "most likely" participants to be involved in any "large scale", organized military or terrorist-induced conflict.I offer the following informationwhich may be of value/interest to the general list membership.
Dr. Thomas E. Levy, and associates, have conducted and released some rather compelling data relative to the possible effects of several (of the most likely) biological agents
to be the source of future Bioterrorism incidents. To wit: The most likely candidates.beyond Anthrax and Smallpox, seem to be Plague (pneumonic/bubonic plague), Tularemia (especially Francisella tularensis) and Botulinum Toxin (as produced by Clostridium botulinum). A majority of cases of plague can be, logically, assumed to occur--naturally---as bubonicweaponized forms of septicemic and/or pneumonic strains can be anticipated among potential military insults.
Bubonic Plague insults (in general) do respond to rapid, intensive, treatment protocols.especially if addressed within the first 2 to 6 days. Colloidal Silver HAS EFFECTED quite powerful, suppressive/corrective effects (in in vitro) on this form. If left untreated, the death rate usually exceeds 50%. "However, Septicemic plague is almost uniformly fatal when left untreated". * Pneumonic plague...similar to anthrax, requires aggressive treatment
to avoid fatality. Although Broad-spectrum antibiotics (e.g. Streptomycin, gentamicin, doxycycline, tetracycline, and chloramphenicoldo exhibit useful effects-if introduced EARLY IN THE INFECTIOUS STAGES. Vaccine is no longer available for the plague.
Tularemia is a disease caused by the Fancisella Tularensis bacteria. Though not a potential bioweapon familiar to most peoplethe extreme contagiousness, especially from the inhalation form---makes it a very enticing candidate for bioterrorism. Usually not considered a major fatality threatif left untreated, pneumonic tularemia can be expected to inflict 33% mortality. Early, proper treatment should keep the mortality to 2% of patients. However,
data seems to indicate that WEAPONIZED strains may prove to be much less responsive to antibiotic address.
Botulinum represents a more consequential threat, especially because of the power ans speed of its effects. Botulinum-generated toxin is extremely powerful (considered by some to be the MOST powerful, single, toxic agent on the planet), e.g. one gram---properly distributed, could kill one million people. If inhaled, a dose 1/100 of the swallowed dosage would be sufficient to cause death. The frightening prospect for Botulinum is that it is the TOXIN derivativenot the bacteria itself.which is the killing agent. As there is no biogical component in the toxin fractioncolloidal silver is of INCONSEQUENTIAL EFFECT as a protocol modality against it. However, there is GOOD NEWS for those seeking a helpful response to ALL THREE of these biological weapons. Dr. Levy and associates have utilized protocols first developed by individuals like, Klenner (1957), Calarese (1985), Jahan (1984, and Dey (1966).to confirm a VERY POWERFUL ADDRESS in aid!
ing an effective response to all three of these insults. The protocols are based, primarily, upon the implementation of Vitamin C, intravenously in the acutely poisoned. As a prophylactic, daily dosages of 5000 to 6000 mg of
any form of ascorbic acid have demonstraed to be UNUSALLY effective in aiding the body to avoid the "scurvy-like" condition which enables a large panoply of bacterial insults to proliferate...
and to rapidly metabolize the increased vitamin C...which has become available.
It is of special note to realize that the vitamin C exhibits a VERY beneficial effect in
cancelling the effects of the Botulinum toxinalong with potential compromises usually inflicted by NEARLY ALL toxin related insults. Vitamin C therapy demonstrated VERY POWERFUL
efffects on a "group of 24 pesticides, heavy metals, hydrocarbons, and gaseous pollutants".
Additionally, "patients who were clinically ill from the effects of this group of toxins invariably showed dramatic improvement from the infusion of enough vitamin C." It should be noted that these (infectious agents/toxins) were predominately diverse, rather than similar
in nature.
I

CS>Infant with possible seizures.

2008-11-05 Thread Deborah Gerard

Hi everyone,
I have a grandson who is 15 months old who has started stopping in his tracks 
and jolting slightly and his eyes roll back in his head briefly and it's over. 
We took him to a doctor who is ofcourse wanting all kinds of tests but I am 
wondering if anyone has any input on this,
thanks so much in advance,
debbie

CS>[List Owner] POLITICS!?

2008-11-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Marshall wrote:
> Please move this over to the off topic list where it belongs. I would
> like to respond, but can't because political discussions are not allowed
> on the main list.

Thank you Marshall!  That's exactly correct.  

Faith, I'm disappointed that you weren't sensitive enough to realize 
that those kinds of remarks would be *really* upsetting to other people 
on the list, however happy you happen to be today!   

This is the *EXACT* reason that political discussions are among the 
prohibited topics in the list rules!  

And every other one of you who also violated the list rules by 
responding to the first foolish outburst, what exactly were you 
thinking?  

I'm sorry I wasn't on top of this to stop it sooner, but my attention 
was on other things for a bit...  

In an unprecedented step, I'm going to put the list on moderation for a 
few hours to give all of you a chance to catch up, realize your 
mistakes, and get this nonsense out of your systems.  

List rules are at www.silverlist.org ... If you have not read them 
*today* and have participated in this politics outbreak, go there now 
and do so. Then subscribe to the Off Topic list if you want to continue 
talking about politics, with the awareness that you're expected to be 
civil to one another, even there, as a condition of your participation 
in the silver lists..  

If any more comments are added to these threads once I turn things back 
on, those individuals will be in grave danger of disciplinary action. 
You are warned!

To all the rest of you who are actually interested in CS today, I am 
attempting to figure out how to approve messages using this mail 
client, but it may take me a while. I will either figure it out and 
start approving messages as quickly as possible so you can get the help 
that you need, or I'll just set things back to normal as soon as I 
think the situation has settled down.

My apologies if there are a few hours' delay.

Be well,

Mike Devour
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Re: CS>Politics and the effect on CS

2008-11-05 Thread indi

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:56:46 -0600
"Norton, Steve"  wrote:

> Wayne,
> I love the subject line. Clever way to make politics "on topic"
>  - Steve 
> 
> T
> 

I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out.
That Wayne's a hoot! 

:)

Cheers,
indi
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RE: CS>Politics and the effect on CS

2008-11-05 Thread Norton, Steve

Wayne,
I love the subject line. Clever way to make politics "on topic"
 - Steve 

T


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Re: CS>Off Topic Politics

2008-11-05 Thread Faith Gagne

Thank you Marshall.

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic Politics

Norton, Steve wrote:
I try to stay out of the politics but this time I will put in my 2 
cents and then butt out. Republicans do not have to rejoice in Obama 
but they should be open to an opportunity for things to be better. The 
Republicans had their opportunity and it is an understatement to say 
they failed miserably and would continue to do so if given the chance. 
So now the Democrats havve their chance and we should all hope they 
can suceed where the Republicans did not. You seem to consider 
liberals as a dirty word but in the words of another:

Please move this over to the off topic list where it belongs. I would 
like to respond, but can't because political discussions are not allowed 
on the main list.

Marshall

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