date:20090916

Group

I bought some Liposomal Vit C and had been using it and had a strange

occurance happen to me. My scalp broke out and was terribly itchy and

had some breakouts on the body. I stopped the LipC for approximately

a week and it seemed to calm down. I started back and about the third

day again started itching. Could this be a herx reaction? Is there a way

to cut down the amount maybe and be able to continue? The packages

are liquid. If it is a herx should I just continue on and work my way

thru the reactions? Any advise or comment is appreciated.

Dianne

Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:45:28 -0500
From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange and Unexpected Occurrance

Having some Calcium Ascorbate powder and assuming it would be similar
to using Sodium Ascorbate, I used it to mix up some Liposomal Vit. C.

I mixed up the cup of water and Lecithin and the 1/2 cup water and the
Calcium Ascorbate. When I mixed the two together the result appeared
strange and unexpected.to me.

If anyone else has Calcium Ascorbate I wonder if they can repeat this
experiment.

Dan

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RE: CSHealthcare videos Pass along


Well spoken videos.the problem most of us have is we don't have training

to know how to organize, protest or unite against what the government is doing.

I won't comment more because that should go to the OT list.

 

Dianne
 
 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:35:19 -0700
 From: ccdire...@yahoo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSHealthcare videos Pass along

 This gentleman speaks for me and probably most of us. Well worth the viewing 
 - and sending to everyone we know.
 
 Subject: Important Message please watch both of them 
 
 Please watch.
 
 The YouTube links below are Part 1 and 2 of a tape made from their ranch in 
 south-central Texas. 
 
 At their own expense, they made 1000 copies and sent one to every single 
 congressman and senator and some media outlets. 
 
 Let's hope that each and every one of them watched and LISTENED!!! 
 
 
 Part 1  www.YouTube.com/watch?v=j7sQHunYdN8 
 
 Part 2  www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJsF11PsnQ

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Re: CSChemotherapy

I know one thing for sure and that is that *I* would never try chemo!   
dee


On 16 Sep 2009, at 01:51, Pat wrote:

Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE  
has ever been cured of cancer by chemotherapy?  My father in law had  
chemo for non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a  
couple years later, then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till  
94.  I  know several women who've had breast cancer and after  
surgery and chemo have survived without cancer symtoms for all these  
years.  That is just why alternative medicine proponants lose  
credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream medical  
treatments.  They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even  
realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT  
WELL.  Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it ever  
happens to  
me 
.  Pat






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what is the message?  dee

On 16 Sep 2009, at 03:35, ccdirectt wrote:




This gentleman speaks for me and probably most of us.  Well worth  
the viewing - and sending to everyone we know.


Subject: Important Message please watch both of them 







 Please watch.

The YouTube links below are Part 1 and 2 of a tape made from their  
ranch in south-central Texas.


At their own expense, they made 1000 copies and sent one to every  
single congressman and senator and some media outlets.


Let's hope that each and every one of them watched and LISTENED!!!


Part 1 www.YouTube.com/watch?v=j7sQHunYdN8

   Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJsF11PsnQ





















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Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

All I know is, that I've been getting 'stabbing' pains again (which I  
had previously put down to the zoster virus) and I have been taking  
chlorella.  So far, no stabbing pains, but when I stop taking it, they  
are back.  I'm wondering if it is mercury poisoning doing it because I  
have extensive amalgum fillings (which I can't have removed)  dee


On 16 Sep 2009, at 03:43, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:


With respect, no.

There is more than kind of parsley;  cilantro is one of them.

Chlorella is an algae.

There are several kinds with different claimed benefits.   I have  
read the mercury scavenging claims also.

Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms Kefir?

2009-09-16 Thread Day Sutton

no yeast in kefir

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Only if you can tolerate yeast...

 I found it to be very yeasty.

 Dan

 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Marshall,
  What are your thoughts on Kefir.. Is it worth making and taking for the
  probiotics in it?
  thanks deb
 
  
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:08:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms
 
  Preventing the flu and colds.  This is what I have found seems to work:
 
  1. colloidal silver, good preventative, pretty good at ending the bout
  (kills pathogens directly)
  2. Vitamin D (immune system boost)
  3. Lactobacillus rhamnosus lysate powder (such as del-immune V) (immune
  system boost)
  4. Olive leaf extract.  This can be tough to take on an empty stomach, or
 if
  nausea is present. (kills pathogens directly)
  5. Serratpeptase can relieve a sore throat in a matter of minutes if you
 put
  the powder into the mouth and let it dissolve, swallowing a little at a
  time. (kills pathogens directly by dissolving their wall or exposed DNA)
  6. MMS.  Does not seem to work that well with viruses though.  Great for
  parasites and fungi.
 
  Marshall
 
  Bob Banever wrote:
  Tara,
 
   When I had flu like symptoms last year I took MMS and colloidal
  silver.  My symptoms were gone in two days.  Started with 2 drops MMS
 and
  worked my way up to 6 drops every couple of hours.  Took 3 oz of silver
 in
  the AM and PM.  Seemed to have worked for me.
 
  Bob
  - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms
 
 
  I would be taking 5 Olive Leaf Capsules or strong tea, boiled
 (decoction)
  with plenty of lemon and honey to make
  it palatable, a cup every 3-4 hours.
 
  Garnet
 
  Tara McClintick wrote:
  Hi Silver Listers,
 
   I?m using Argentyn 23 for immune support for my younger son,  (I know
  it
 
  is expensive, but I?ve already bought it) ? my older son has come home
  today with Flu symptoms , 102.5 fever, achy, headache, chills.  I?m
 reading
  Silver can combat Flu, any experience? any suggestions on how can
 
  I determine the dosage?  He?s 170lbs. lean build.  Thanks, Tara
 
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RE: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

2009-09-16 Thread kath


If you are using cilantro for mercury removal be careful of your source.
Since it has such a high propensity for mercury the plants can be
contaminated before you use them, and then you are giving yourself mercury.
Kathy


-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

In my experience Cilantro is much cheaper than Chinese Parsley...

Dan

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
 BTW, you may have been thinking of coriander rather than cholorella,
 Marshall.

 In Google-searching for information about parsley versus cilantro I found
a
 lot of confusing statements and some misinformation.

 Wikipedia provides what looks like the best overview:

 Parsley (Petroselinum crispum) is a bright green biennial herb, often
used
 as spice. It is common in Middle Eastern, European, and American cooking.
 Parsley is used for its leaf in much the same way as coriander (which is
 also known as Chinese parsley or cilantro), although parsley has a milder
 flavor.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsely

 Bottom line:  for purging mercury, you want the leaves of what is known as
 Chinese Parsley/ cilantro.






 On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 11:43 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
wrote:

 With respect, no.

 There is more than kind of parsley;  cilantro is one of them.

 Chlorella is an algae.

 There are several kinds with different claimed benefits.   I have read
the
 mercury scavenging claims also.



 On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 00:13 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 Two names, same plant.

 Marshall


 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

 So does chlorella.  dee

 On 15 Sep 2009, at 00:55, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:

 Research by Y. Omura, M.D.,  indicates that cilantro effectively
 removes mercury from the human body.

 There are various recipes for cilantro sauces on the Internet, as well
 as sources for capsules.












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Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question

2009-09-16 Thread Pat

I didn't have any reactions since I've only take the Lypo-spheric vitamin C 
twice so far, but it did make me a little queasy both times. (that went away 
when I ate something) I put it into apple juice.  It's like egg yolk in color 
and doesn't really mix, but I break it up and chug it down.  I didn't notice 
any taste.  It's pretty expensive so I'm trying to save it for when I really 
need it.


   Pat





From: Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:38:35 AM
Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question

Group
I bought some Liposomal Vit C and had been using it and had a strange 
occurance happen to me.  My scalp broke out and was terribly itchy and
had some breakouts on the body.  I stopped the LipC for approximately
a week and it seemed to calm down.  I started back and about the third 
day again started itching.  Could this be a herx reaction?  Is there a way
to cut down the amount maybe and be able to continue?  The packages
are liquid.  If it is a herx should I just continue on and work my way
thru the reactions?  Any advise or comment is appreciated.  
Dianne


  


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Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

2009-09-16 Thread Day Sutton

cilantro draws mercury out of bones and tissues so fast that the body cannot
eliminate it fast enough and you get mercury back in the blood.   Must use
it sparingly.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, kath kathy.she...@verizon.net wrote:


 If you are using cilantro for mercury removal be careful of your source.
 Since it has such a high propensity for mercury the plants can be
 contaminated before you use them, and then you are giving yourself mercury.
 Kathy


 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:35 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

 In my experience Cilantro is much cheaper than Chinese Parsley...

 Dan

 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
 jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  BTW, you may have been thinking of coriander rather than cholorella,
  Marshall.
 
  In Google-searching for information about parsley versus cilantro I found
 a
  lot of confusing statements and some misinformation.
 
  Wikipedia provides what looks like the best overview:
 
  Parsley (Petroselinum crispum) is a bright green biennial herb, often
 used
  as spice. It is common in Middle Eastern, European, and American cooking.
  Parsley is used for its leaf in much the same way as coriander (which is
  also known as Chinese parsley or cilantro), although parsley has a milder
  flavor.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsely
 
  Bottom line:  for purging mercury, you want the leaves of what is known
 as
  Chinese Parsley/ cilantro.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 11:43 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
 wrote:
 
  With respect, no.
 
  There is more than kind of parsley;  cilantro is one of them.
 
  Chlorella is an algae.
 
  There are several kinds with different claimed benefits.   I have read
 the
  mercury scavenging claims also.
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 00:13 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
  Two names, same plant.
 
  Marshall
 
 
  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
  So does chlorella.  dee
 
  On 15 Sep 2009, at 00:55, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
 
  Research by Y. Omura, M.D.,  indicates that cilantro effectively
  removes mercury from the human body.
 
  There are various recipes for cilantro sauces on the Internet, as
 well
  as sources for capsules.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question

2009-09-16 Thread Del

I think this is a herx reaction.
At least, that is how I interpreted it when it happened to me, because I also 
purchased a box of Lip C packets and started taking them.  Very quickly had low 
level headache, loose BMs.  That went away after about a week, but then got the 
skin outbreaks, both large and very small but itchy pimples and red welts 
breaking out on my forehead and back.  I treated those with H202 and Oxy10, and 
after about a week they went away too, now feeling pretty good.
It is possible some of my symptoms (the headache?) were not due to Lip C, but 
to a combination olive leaf and Oil of Oregano that I started taking at the 
same time.  
Anyway, I consider the whole thing to be a Herx reaction, but it was all 
tolerable and treatable, so I continued with the doses.  Now the reactions have 
passed and I am increasing the doses.
I am also taking two drops of sski and one drop of iodine each day.
All of this is an effort to build up my resistance for the coming (now 
arrived?) flu season.
I also joined the local fitness center and am running and lifting weights on a 
daily basis.  Makes me sleep a lot better.
Oh, and, of course, I add CS when I feel something like a cold or flu coming 
on, which did happen once, but I drove it off.
So far, so good!  Nothing is guaranteed.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 6:38 AM
  Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question


  Group
  I bought some Liposomal Vit C and had been using it and had a strange 
  occurance happen to me.  My scalp broke out and was terribly itchy and
  had some breakouts on the body.  I stopped the LipC for approximately
  a week and it seemed to calm down.  I started back and about the third 
  day again started itching.  Could this be a herx reaction?  Is there a way
  to cut down the amount maybe and be able to continue?  The packages
  are liquid.  If it is a herx should I just continue on and work my way
  thru the reactions?  Any advise or comment is appreciated.  
  Dianne
   
   Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:45:28 -0500
   From: bhangcha...@gmail.com
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com
   Subject: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange and Unexpected Occurrance
   
   Having some Calcium Ascorbate powder and assuming it would be similar
   to using Sodium Ascorbate, I used it to mix up some Liposomal Vit. C.
   
   I mixed up the cup of water and Lecithin and the 1/2 cup water and the
   Calcium Ascorbate. When I mixed the two together the result appeared
   strange and unexpected.to me.
   
   If anyone else has Calcium Ascorbate I wonder if they can repeat this
   experiment.
   
   Dan
   
   
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Re: CSChemotherapy

2009-09-16 Thread Donna


This is a good question and I'd like to know also!
Donna ACS


So, if you were diagnosed with cancer, are there places where you can go that 
will direct an alternative course of therapy?  Very few people would know just 
what to take and how much.  Also, you'd need to be monitored to see if it was 
working and you wouldn't want to go back to the regular oncologist.

Pat



- Original Message 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:58:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy

Pat,

  It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond well to chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins 
and non-Hodgkins.  These are liquid cancers and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage).  As 
far as breast cancer is concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the tumor surgically removed that 
hasn't spread and is the only growth, then that will cure the cancer (but not get rid of the 
cause).  The chemo and radiation is done just in case but does not work well on breast or any 
solid tumor. By far and away alternative methods work better.  Cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of the 
most effective on this planet.  Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, colloidal silver, iodine (specific 
for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema (blood root tincture) are all very effective as well but are usually 
used together.  Cannabis oil is by far the most natural and effective therapy out there IMO.

Bob
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: CSChemotherapy


Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever 
been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for 
non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later, 
then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several women who've 
had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without cancer 
symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative medicine proponants 
lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream medical 
treatments. They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even realize that 
THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT WELL. Course, I'm thinking I 
might try home treatment if it ever happens to me. Pat





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Re: CSChemotherapy

2009-09-16 Thread Donna


Where do you get this and is this a preventive thing?
Donna ACS



Hi There to you check out a product of four herbs called Essiac - I am 
taking it now and find it amazing


Good luck

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Very good article.
My brother-in-law is going through cancer treatments, at first he had a pimple between his eyes had it for awhile, docs took it off within 2 weeks it grew to golf ball size, than docs bio. that from that grew a 2" long horn tumor. This was 2 months ago.
Thay started him on radiation twice a day, and chemo 4 times a week.
So far the radiation has burnt his face,throat, lungs,tongue,mouth. He cannot swallow or eat. They tried to put a tube in the stomach at first it was not successful, on the second try they got it in but it is so painful no one can touch it.
he is now back in the hospita, his heart and they are concerned about the tube, but they never stop the radiation treatments.
They limited the chemo from the extremely bad reactions.
You know, the "cure" is going to kill him.
-- Original message from "Thora Rasmusen (Home)" mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca: -- I spent a lot of time researching cancer therapies, with no need for it, so I had no preconceived notions, and the statistics just don't hold up for chemo and radiation, world wide. The stats for alternatives in general are so far superior to meds. Also, the alternative community is really the only place that promotes true prevention. The meds will bankrupt most people, so for many they truly are not an option. Alternative preventers are food, and cost pennies per day more than regular food. If someone was researching only one condition, you might have a point, but when you do comprehensive research on a multitude of ailments, you see how horrific big pharma is, it's very hard not to become pessimistic of what they claim to be doing. The general public will not be listening to the Health Ranger. Those who listen are going to be mostly highly informed, or highly damaged by mainstream. When the doctors cause damage, this is what happens, people become disillusioned. I started my path in alternative health when a doctor wanted to put me on morphine for headaches. Can you imagine, he wanted to make me just one hair away from the street addicts (in my opinion). Luckily I had that attitude, because it made me totally quit listening to doctors, and I started on my path to alternative health, and saved my life, literally. Mainstream medicine would have killed me in just a few years. Instead, I feel better than I did as a teenager (I'm 45), no more headaches, proper digestion now with proper healthy food (I was constipated since my mom put me on pablum), and I know I'll never have cancer, etc, etc, etc. Keep an open mind. Ask why and actually be open enough to hear the answer to that question, because then you'll find out why they have the attitude they do. Thora -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM To: silver list Subject: CSChemotherapy Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later, then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several women who've had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without cancer symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative medicine proponants lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream medical treatments. They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT WELL. Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it ever happens to me. Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.100/2373 - Release Date: 09/15/09 13:37:00

Re: CSsilver gel It works Good

2009-09-16 Thread Scotty

Bethany,
 
I use almond oil instead of coconut oil as the skin absorbs almond oil much 
quicker. I found coconut oil to be too oily. I'm doing marketing research with 
my kreamy balm at this time and have no negative feedback!


Scott 
With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27



 


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From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CSsilver gel It works Good
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 5:03 PM






Bethany,
Your on the right track, Keep trying and asking.


 I use organic Bee's Wax for a stabilizer. If you choose The bee's Wax you need 
to cook it in and start with a small amounts, Cook it means to use a Doubler 
Broiler pan (water in the bottom pan,) bring to low heat and melt the wax, you 
must stay with it and not over cook it, I mix all my ingredients in after the 
wax melts, (that will sorta harden the wax for a while) but it will melt fast 
now that it has broken down,  you must keep stirring it, sounds like a lot of 
work but it is awesome. Most people can cure cold sores in one day, and use on  
cuts, Itch, bites, scratches, scrapes, any skin problem. (You don't want to 
start with a big batch)  I don't have it on my website because I can't keep up 
with my local customers.
 Don't use my name, Super Silver Salve, I like a soft salve myself.
(Super Silver Salve)

Tel Tofflemire
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
Dewey, AZ.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Bethany Methven mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com
Subject: CSsilver gel
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:36 AM








I am trying to do some research about making a silver first aid gel.  I am 
thinking of mixing coconut oil ( an excellent antiviral) and base, vitamin E,  
aloe vera gel and approx. 15 - 20 ppm ionic/ colloidal silver.  I would love 
any feed back from you all about that.  Any ideas of things to add, percentages 
in the mix, etc? 
 
Thanks - Beth

Re: CSChemotherapy

2009-09-16 Thread Linda Ellis

Yes, Pat, there are many places, but don't expect to be able to use your health 
insurance at most of them.  I know of one in San Diego, one in Germany, a 
couple in Mexico.  

There are also doctors working in the U.S. who will help with this, but 
quietly.  I have found a few here in Chicago, near where I live, and I've 
slowly been keeping a little list of who I'd talk to if that ever happened.

There is a Yahoo group called cancercured where a lot of this is discussed.  
And, although they also use conventional chemo/radiation, Cancer Treatment 
Centers of America do address some alternatives...

Like Thora, I've done a lot of research without really having a need to, as 
cancer hasn't touched my family yet
 Linda
Don’t bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try 
to be better than yourself. William Faulkner 



- Original Message 
From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:22:05 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy

So, if you were diagnosed with cancer, are there places where you can go that 
will direct an alternative course of therapy?  Very few people would know just 
what to take and how much.  Also, you'd need to be monitored to see if it was 
working and you wouldn't want to go back to the regular oncologist.

Pat



- Original Message 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:58:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy

Pat,

  It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond well to 
chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins and non-Hodgkins.  These are liquid cancers 
and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage).  As far as breast cancer is 
concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the tumor surgically removed 
that hasn't spread and is the only growth, then that will cure the cancer 
(but not get rid of the cause).  The chemo and radiation is done just in case 
but does not work well on breast or any solid tumor. By far and away 
alternative methods work better.  Cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of 
the most effective on this planet.  Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, 
colloidal silver, iodine (specific for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema 
(blood root tincture) are all very effective as well but are usually used 
together.  Cannabis oil is by far the most natural and effective therapy out 
there IMO.

Bob
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: CSChemotherapy


Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever 
been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for 
non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later, 
then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several women who've 
had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without cancer 
symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative medicine proponants 
lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream medical 
treatments. They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even realize that 
THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT WELL. Course, I'm thinking I 
might try home treatment if it ever happens to me. Pat





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Re: CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2009 #546

2009-09-16 Thread Dan Nave

You wrote:

In addition to the above I know of 4 more people who started chemo
and quit after the first round, and when asked why they quit said
something to the effect of “I would rather die than go through any
more of that”. 

What is the status of these 4 people compared to the 14 people doing
chemo?  Or are they included in that number?

Dan



On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:31 PM, Paul Bond pmb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just did a quick count of all the people I know who have had chemo (14
 people), and know of only 1 that survived more than 5 years.  He was an
 exceptional case though (18 years old with the starting problem in his knee,
 major surgery, radiotherapy and follow up in his lungs after they cut
 everything up).  People with radiotherapy that I know or have known seem to
 do better, but suspect that’s more because of the site being more localised
 which allowed that treatment.  In addition to the above I know of 4 more
 people who started chemo and quit after the first round, and when asked why
 they quit said something to the effect of “I would rather die than go
 through any more of that”.  Of course there are different chemo treatments
 and it would be wrong for me to generalise on that.  The last fatality was
 my mother late last year.  She had Taxol along with a couple of rounds of a
 platinum based therapy I can’t recall the name of.  I went back to England
 in a bid to get her onto something a bit less painful and damaging to her
 immune system (I believe that health, at least from a physical aspect, is
 immunocentric).  She refused, as her doctor was giving her enough things
 already, so it was my unfortunate role to have to stand down and respect her
 wishes.  I just *know* that together we could have given her much better
 odds than the doctor.  That’s what has me still studying all this stuff and
 take an active role.  If people want to take the conventional route then
 that’s their sovereign right, but if they want an alternative then I’m going
 to be there for them.



 All that brings up a question that perhaps someone could offer advice on.
 If I say to someone in casual conversation that there are sometimes ways
 that have far greater possibilities than those offered by BigPharma, the
 response is “If that were true then everyone would be doing it and you’d be
 a millionaire”.  How can you explain in a nutshell without boring someone
 why the profit motive overrides the cure?



 Paul B



 From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
 [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com]
 Sent: 16 September 2009 03:32
 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
 Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #546



 Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever
 been cured of cancer by chemotherapy?  My father in law had chemo for
 non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later,
 then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94.  I  know several women
 who've had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without
 cancer symtoms for all these years.  That is just why alternative medicine
 proponants lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all mainstream
 medical treatments.  They are so hostile to physicians that they don't even
 realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT WELL.
 Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it ever happens to

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Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms Kefir?

2009-09-16 Thread Dan Nave

Real Keifer has yeast.  Keifer made from keifer grains has yeast in it.

Storebought Keifer does not have yeast in it.  However, many people
don't consider that to be Kefier.

Dan


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com wrote:
 no yeast in kefir

 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Only if you can tolerate yeast...

 I found it to be very yeasty.

 Dan

 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Marshall,
  What are your thoughts on Kefir.. Is it worth making and taking for the
  probiotics in it?
  thanks deb
 
  
  From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:08:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms
 
  Preventing the flu and colds.  This is what I have found seems to work:
 
  1. colloidal silver, good preventative, pretty good at ending the bout
  (kills pathogens directly)
  2. Vitamin D (immune system boost)
  3. Lactobacillus rhamnosus lysate powder (such as del-immune V) (immune
  system boost)
  4. Olive leaf extract.  This can be tough to take on an empty stomach,
  or if
  nausea is present. (kills pathogens directly)
  5. Serratpeptase can relieve a sore throat in a matter of minutes if you
  put
  the powder into the mouth and let it dissolve, swallowing a little at a
  time. (kills pathogens directly by dissolving their wall or exposed DNA)
  6. MMS.  Does not seem to work that well with viruses though.  Great for
  parasites and fungi.
 
  Marshall
 
  Bob Banever wrote:
  Tara,
 
       When I had flu like symptoms last year I took MMS and colloidal
  silver.  My symptoms were gone in two days.  Started with 2 drops MMS
  and
  worked my way up to 6 drops every couple of hours.  Took 3 oz of silver
  in
  the AM and PM.  Seemed to have worked for me.
 
  Bob
  - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM
  Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms
 
 
  I would be taking 5 Olive Leaf Capsules or strong tea, boiled
  (decoction)
  with plenty of lemon and honey to make
  it palatable, a cup every 3-4 hours.
 
  Garnet
 
  Tara McClintick wrote:
  Hi Silver Listers,
 
   I?m using Argentyn 23 for immune support for my younger son,  (I
  know
  it
 
  is expensive, but I?ve already bought it) ? my older son has come
  home
  today with Flu symptoms , 102.5 fever, achy, headache, chills.  I?m
  reading
  Silver can combat Flu, any experience? any suggestions on how can
 
  I determine the dosage?  He?s 170lbs. lean build.  Thanks, Tara
 
   Tara McClintick
 
  www.booksbytara.com http://www.booksbytara.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms Kefir?

Sorry, that is outside my knowledge base.  Never tried it, and have 
never researched it.


Marshall

Deborah Gerard wrote:

Marshall,
What are your thoughts on Kefir.. Is it worth making and taking for 
the probiotics in it?

thanks deb


*From:* Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:08:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms

Preventing the flu and colds.  This is what I have found seems to work:

1. colloidal silver, good preventative, pretty good at ending the bout 
(kills pathogens directly)

2. Vitamin D (immune system boost)
3. Lactobacillus rhamnosus lysate powder (such as del-immune V) 
(immune system boost)
4. Olive leaf extract.  This can be tough to take on an empty stomach, 
or if nausea is present. (kills pathogens directly)
5. Serratpeptase can relieve a sore throat in a matter of minutes if 
you put the powder into the mouth and let it dissolve, swallowing a 
little at a time. (kills pathogens directly by dissolving their wall 
or exposed DNA)
6. MMS.  Does not seem to work that well with viruses though.  Great 
for parasites and fungi.


Marshall

Bob Banever wrote:
 Tara,

  When I had flu like symptoms last year I took MMS and colloidal 
silver.  My symptoms were gone in two days.  Started with 2 drops MMS 
and worked my way up to 6 drops every couple of hours.  Took 3 oz of 
silver in the AM and PM.  Seemed to have worked for me.


 Bob
 - Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net 
mailto:gar...@grandecom.net

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM
 Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms


 I would be taking 5 Olive Leaf Capsules or strong tea, boiled 
(decoction) with plenty of lemon and honey to make

 it palatable, a cup every 3-4 hours.

 Garnet

 Tara McClintick wrote:
 Hi Silver Listers,

  I?m using Argentyn 23 for immune support for my younger son,  (I 
know it


 is expensive, but I?ve already bought it) ? my older son has come 
home today with Flu symptoms , 102.5 fever, achy, headache, chills.  
I?m reading Silver can combat Flu, any experience? any suggestions on 
how can


 I determine the dosage?  He?s 170lbs. lean build.  Thanks, Tara

  Tara McClintick

 www.booksbytara.com http://www.booksbytara.com/ 
http://www.booksbytara.com





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Re: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary


Gina Moore wrote:

Sorry, I’m just trying to make sure I understand completely!  My brain is a bit 
foggy…  please forgive me!

So, you are mixing the ascorbic acid and sodium bicarbonate together just 
before adding it to the lecithin mixture in the unit?  For some reason my brain 
thought you were doing it all together!  Ugh.  Sorry for my confusion!  ☺

A couple more questions….
Can you just buy sodium ascorbate instead of having to ‘make’ it?  I like to 
simplify things.  ☺

  

http://www.cheapvitamins.com/Product/Sodium-Ascorbate-119-serv.aspx?gclid=CM3wkqm59pwCFURR2godT311ag
http://www.iherb.com/Sodium?gclid=CPizury59pwCFZla2godIHVxaw
http://www.herbspro.com/search/products.asp?txtSearch=SODIUM+ASCORBATEmoreprods=gclid=CNPu6MO59pwCFc5U2god8VxSbA

and probably at your local health food store.

Marshall


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Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]


Dan Nave wrote:

In my experience Cilantro is much cheaper than Chinese Parsley...

Dan

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  

BTW, you may have been thinking of coriander rather than cholorella,
Marshall.




Exactly! That is what happened. Thanks, I thought I was losing my mind!

Marshall


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CSCS:Videos,pass along

2009-09-16 Thread Harold MacDonald



Part 1 www.YouTube.com/watch?v=j7sQHunYdN8


   Part 2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJsF11PsnQ



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Re: CSRe: Water Distiller


Ode Coyote wrote:



One should look up the actual radioactivity of DU compared to, say, 
granite.
Then compare actual prevalence and concentration in the environment as 
well as UN-depleted *natural* Uranium.

A brick will light up a Geiger counter pretty well..
It is true that some blocks, cinder blocks for instance, are very 
radioactive. In the case of cinder blocks it is potassium 40.  But the 
reason DU is hazardous if I recall correctly has nothing to do with 
radioactivity at all.  They are, for most practical purposes not very 
radioactive.  The problem is that uranium is a very toxic heavy metal.


Some buildings are so radioactive that they aren't safe to live 
in..temporary occupation only.

 Some wells drilled into granite aren't safe to drink from long term.

If you get a whiff of DU vapor or dust, sure that could be a problem 
down the road, but at the moment, it's the least of your worries as 
part of your head has probably vaporized with it.
 DU is VERY heavy and doesn't tend to blow in the wind any better than 
gold...and vapors condense quite fast.


The only way that I know that uranium could be carried in the wind is if 
it was in the form of uranium hexafluoride.  Although it is in this form 
for many types of enriching operations, once it has been converted back 
to the base metal I see no way that would be formed again in the field.


Marshall


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Re: CSChemotherapy


Low Dose Naltrexone raises endorphins and met5-enkephaline which
causes these cancers to remit. It is a 1/10th dose of an 
opiate blocker
developed to help addicts detox. Cancers that have an opioid 
receptor
respond to the increase in M5K, also known as Opioid Growth 
Factor
or OGF. It's been in use for 25 years but is little known 
because it is
out of patent. No drug company will invest in clinical 
trials for these

new uses but slowly the trials are being privately funded. There
are some cancer studies in mice.

Garnet

Bob Banever wrote:

Pat,

   It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond 
well to chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins and non-Hodgkins.  These are 
liquid cancers and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage).  As far 
as breast cancer is concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the 
tumor surgically removed that hasn't spread and is the only growth, then 
that will cure the cancer (but not get rid of the cause).  The chemo 
and radiation is done just in case but does not work well on breast or 
any solid tumor. By far and away alternative methods work better.  
Cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of the most effective on this 
planet.  Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, colloidal silver, 
iodine (specific for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema (blood root 
tincture) are all very effective as well but are usually used 
together.   Cannabis oil is by far the most natural and effective 
therapy out there IMO.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: CSChemotherapy


Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has 
ever been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo 
for non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years 
later, then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several 
women who've had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived 
without cancer symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative 
medicine proponants lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of 
all mainstream medical treatments. They are so hostile to physicians 
that they don't even realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING 
THE PATIENT WELL. Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it 
ever happens to me. Pat






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RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question

2009-09-16 Thread ransley

I don't want to just blithely call this a Herx, but most likely you have
pathogens fleeing the onslaught of the Lipo-C and going to the skin to try
to survive. My very first experience with such a thing was from my first few
doses of CS, made from Ode's Silverpuppy, back in early 2000. Since then
I've become an old hand at it. It is often aggravating, sometimes disgusting
and never any fun.
DaddyBob

Re: CSChemotherapy

Curezone?  Plus all the various treatments that have been posted to  
this list, which I have kept. dee


On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:21, Donna wrote:


This is a good question and I'd like to know also!
Donna ACS

So, if you were diagnosed with cancer, are there places where you  
can go that will direct an alternative course of therapy?  Very few  
people would know just what to take and how much.  Also, you'd need  
to be monitored to see if it was working and you wouldn't want to  
go back to the regular oncologist.


Pat



-

CSSwine Flu Virus Created from Pig Vaccine?

2009-09-16 Thread Annie B Smythe

Whoa! Got this via email this morning. Eye opener? Man, I'm making CS as fast as I can. This creating of sickness is scary stuff. Captain Tripps kind of scary.

Annie

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Swine Flu Virus Created from Pig Vaccine?

The swine flu virus had three parents from two continents
and appeared suddenly without warning, evading all routine
flu surveillance and quarantine; sequence data suggest it
may have been created from a faulty vaccine given to pigs in
North America Prof. Adrian Gibbs and Dr. Jean Downie

Background

Several papers reporting phylogenetic analyses of the gene
sequences of the new pandemic swine-origin H1N1 virus (S-
OIV) have been published. All show that S-OIV inherited its
genes from parents that came from two well-known groups of
swine flus. Flu viruses have 8 different genes and in mixed
infections sometimes shuffle those genes to form
‘reassortants’ with new combinations of the 8 genes chosen
from those of the parents. Several reports have shown that
six of the genes of S-OIV came from a ‘triple-reassortant’
influenza virus (or viruses). These viruses have been
common in North American pigs for more than a decade, and
have never been found in Europe. The other two genes (NA
and MP) came from Eurasian ‘avian-like’ viruses common in
Europe for longer, but never found in North America. Both
groups of viruses have however been found recently in pigs
in SE Asia.

The analyses reveal an unusual feature of the S-OIV genes,
which is that none of the genes have been found recently in
swine influenzas collected during routine flu surveillance.
The NA gene had not been sampled (identified in samples) for
17 years before it reappeared in S-OIV, and the others,
including the MP gene, for around 11 years. Thus the NA and
MP genes were most likely acquired by S-OIV from Eurasian
‘avian-like’ viruses on separate occasions, and therefore S-
OIV probably had at least three parents.

We have done further specific analyses to find out which
isolates contain the genes that are closest to those of S-
OIV. We find that all are viruses of pigs. The NA gene of
S-OIV is closest to that of European ‘avian-like’ H1N1
influenza viruses sampled in 1991/1993, its MP gene closest
to that of H3N2 Asian ‘avian-like’ viruses sampled in 1999,
and its other six genes are closest to those of North
American H1N2 ‘triple-reassortant’ viruses sampled in
1999/2000. Note that the dates those isolates were
collected agree with the calculated ‘time-line’ leading to
S-OIV; NA 17 years ago, all the others 11 years.

In summary, S-OIV is a reassortant with at least three
parents. The parents were sampled over a decade ago, all
found in pigs, and in three very distant parts of the world;
North America, Europe and SE Asia!!!

The Questions

Where were S-OIV’s genes between the time that they were
last sampled and 2008 when they all reappeared in S-OIV? In
which virus or viruses, which host, and when and how did
they get together? It is important for us to try to answer
these questions as it might help us avoid similar pandemics
in future.

The Theories

There are two theories regarding the origin of S-OIV, as
described below.

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RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary

2009-09-16 Thread Gina Moore

Do you use the same amount of sodium ascorbate as you do ascorbic acid?
Meaning if you use 1tbs of ascorbic acid you'd use 1tbs of sodium ascorbate?

I really want to do this because I want as much Vit C in my system as I can
get!  And I need to make sure I do it right, of course.

So the protocol would be: 
1. Dissolve 3 level tablespoons of soy lecithin in 1 cup of water
2. Dissolve 1 level tablespoon of SODIUM ASCORBATE powder in 1/2 cup 
of water. 
3. Poured both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned
the unit on
Etc...

Is that right?

Thanks!
Gina

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary


   
http://www.cheapvitamins.com/Product/Sodium-Ascorbate-119-serv.aspx?gclid=CM
3wkqm59pwCFURR2godT311ag
http://www.iherb.com/Sodium?gclid=CPizury59pwCFZla2godIHVxaw
http://www.herbspro.com/search/products.asp?txtSearch=SODIUM+ASCORBATEmorep
rods=gclid=CNPu6MO59pwCFc5U2god8VxSbA

and probably at your local health food store.

Marshall



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CSHolistic Cancer Treatment [was Chemotherapy]

A holistic MD could do this but many alternative 
practitioners such as NDs are not permitted to treat 
cancer, it is not allowed by their license. They can advise 
supportive measures though.


Hugh Riordan, MD
The Riordan Intravenous Vitamin C (IVC) Protocol for Cancer 
is well known in the integrative and orthomolecular medicine 
community and is commonly used as an effective adjunct to 
conventional oncologic therapy

http://www.brightspot.org/ivc/index.shtml

Meridian - associated with the Institute of East-West Medicine
Raymond Chang, MD uses Chinese herbs and OGF among other 
treatments:
Our alternative treatment of cancer includes the use of 
diet, supplements, herbs, as well as drugs as well as 
mind-body approaches in order to improve quality of life, 
reduce side-effects of conventional treatments, as well as 
to improve survival. Also see Dr. Chang's blog on Off-label 
cancer treatments

http://www.meridianmedical.org/

Adjuvant
http://www.adjuvantmed.com/services.asp
...individualized genomic medicine aims to treat the whole 
patient, rather than the disease in isolation. The goal is 
to identify the molecular processes feeding the disease and 
then modify them, to make the body an unfriendly host to the 
disease process.


Dendritic Cell Therapy
 Dendritic Cell Therapy thus involves the harvesting of 
blood cells (ie monocytes or macrophages) from a patient and 
processing them in the laboratory to produce Dendritic Cells 
which are then given back to a patient in order to allow 
massive Dendritic participation in optimally activating the 
immune system. 

http://www.dendritic.info/

Dr Bert Burkson is an integrative MD, PhD. He is in Las 
Cruces, NM who uses IV Alpha Lipoic Acid and Low Dose 
Naltrexone for cancer. He also makes dietary and life style 
suggestions. He has championed the use of the neutriceutical 
Alpha Lipoic Acid in cancer, liver disease and treatment of 
other degenerative and autoimmune diseases. ALA is taken 
orally by many including Hep C patients to drive glutathione 
production in the liver. Levels
of ALA are high in childhood. It is a free radical scavenger 
and the rate limiting step in the production of energy from 
food. It recycles all the other antioxidants including Vit 
E, Vit C and Glutathione. All processes in organ 
regeneration after traumatic events such as heart attack. 
Restores T Cell function and modifies gene expression
in cancer. Also a heavy metal chelator, particularly 
combined with DMSA (Andrew Cutler's oral protocol).


This Blog Talk Radio Interview is very informative on his 
background and treatment protocol.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Mary-Boyle-Bradley/2009/07/31/The-Mary-Bradley-Show

Here is one of his video presentations from an LDN 
Conference with before and after CAT scans of end stage 
cancer patients he has treated.

http://glasgowldn2009.com/2009/04/ldn-conference-video3/

And a catalog of LDN videos from various conferences: 
http://www.youtube.com/user/TropicalDawg



Garnet


Pat wrote:
So, if you were diagnosed with cancer, are there places where you can go that will direct an alternative course of therapy? 


 Very few people would know just what to take and how much. 
 Also, you'd need to be monitored to see if it was working and


you wouldn't want to go back to the regular oncologist.


Pat



- Original Message 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:58:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy

Pat,

  It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond well to chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins 
and non-Hodgkins.  These are liquid cancers and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage).  As 
far as breast cancer is concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the tumor surgically removed that 
hasn't spread and is the only growth, then that will cure the cancer (but not get rid of the 
cause).  The chemo and radiation is done just in case but does not work well on breast or any 
solid tumor. By far and away alternative methods work better.  Cannabis oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of the 
most effective on this planet.  Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, colloidal silver, iodine (specific 
for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema (blood root tincture) are all very effective as well but are usually 
used together.  Cannabis oil is by far the most natural and effective therapy out there IMO.

Bob
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: CSChemotherapy


Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has ever 
been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for 
non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years later, 
then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several women who've 
had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived without cancer

CSRe: Chemotherapy

Most people are going to go with what their insurance will 
pay for. Some will do holistic
treatments like CS as well, but it is the chemo that kills 
them in many instances.


It's hard to do the learning curve when you are facing 
cancer. So much fear and stress

interferes with your mind being able to take in new information.

Best to learn now how to prevent and just in case, what the 
best holistic options are.


Garnet

Paul Bond wrote:
How can you explain in a nutshell 
without boring someone why the profit motive overrides the cure?


 



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CSswine flu vaccine

2009-09-16 Thread Frank

If a person were to get a swine flu vaccine injection would CS kill off the 
product that was injected and thus void the immunity of the injection?
Thanks
Frank

CSMercury Detox


Mercury Detox: Information, Tools, and Resources

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Andy_dose_sched.html

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/adult-metal-chelation/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/

Andrew Hall Cutler, PhD wrote a book on treating mercury 
toxicity that details using oral
supplements, ALA, DMSA and DMPS. He does emphasize that all 
mercury amalgams
must be removed, even the ones under crowns, before doing 
this therapy because the
mercury in the remaining amalgams will be drawn back into 
the blood and deposit in

organs including the brain, producing greater toxicity.

Garnet

Day Sutton wrote:
cilantro draws mercury out of bones and tissues so fast that the body 
cannot eliminate it fast enough and you get mercury back in the blood.   
Must use it sparingly.


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, kath kathy.she...@verizon.net 
mailto:kathy.she...@verizon.net wrote:



If you are using cilantro for mercury removal be careful of your source.
Since it has such a high propensity for mercury the plants can be
contaminated before you use them, and then you are giving yourself
mercury.
Kathy


-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com
mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSEU666...US666 ]Leslie]

In my experience Cilantro is much cheaper than Chinese Parsley...

Dan

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Jonathan B. Britten
jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp mailto:jbrit...@nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:
  BTW, you may have been thinking of coriander rather than cholorella,
  Marshall.
 
  In Google-searching for information about parsley versus cilantro
I found
a
  lot of confusing statements and some misinformation.
 
  Wikipedia provides what looks like the best overview:
 
  Parsley (Petroselinum crispum) is a bright green biennial herb,
often
used
  as spice. It is common in Middle Eastern, European, and American
cooking.
  Parsley is used for its leaf in much the same way as coriander
(which is
  also known as Chinese parsley or cilantro), although parsley has
a milder
  flavor.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsely
 
  Bottom line:  for purging mercury, you want the leaves of what is
known as
  Chinese Parsley/ cilantro.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 11:43 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten
wrote:
 
  With respect, no.
 
  There is more than kind of parsley;  cilantro is one of them.
 
  Chlorella is an algae.
 
  There are several kinds with different claimed benefits.   I
have read
the
  mercury scavenging claims also.
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, at 00:13 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley
wrote:
 
  Two names, same plant.
 
  Marshall
 
 
  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
  So does chlorella.  dee
 
  On 15 Sep 2009, at 00:55, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
 
  Research by Y. Omura, M.D.,  indicates that cilantro effectively
  removes mercury from the human body.
 
  There are various recipes for cilantro sauces on the
Internet, as well
  as sources for capsules.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSRe: Chemotherapy

2009-09-16 Thread Donna


Very good advice!
Donna ACS

Most people are going to go with what their insurance will pay for. 
Some will do holistic
treatments like CS as well, but it is the chemo that kills them in 
many instances.


It's hard to do the learning curve when you are facing cancer. So much 
fear and stress

interferes with your mind being able to take in new information.

Best to learn now how to prevent and just in case, what the best 
holistic options are.


Garnet

Paul Bond wrote:
How can you explain in a nutshell without boring someone why the 
profit motive overrides the cure?


 



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RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary

2009-09-16 Thread Melly Bag

Gina,
 
After you dissolve lecithin and ascorbate in water, run them together in 
blender before pouring into ultrasonic cleaner.
 
Melly

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net wrote:


From: Gina Moore vegasmom...@cox.net
Subject: RE: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 1:02 PM


Do you use the same amount of sodium ascorbate as you do ascorbic acid?
Meaning if you use 1tbs of ascorbic acid you'd use 1tbs of sodium ascorbate?

I really want to do this because I want as much Vit C in my system as I can
get!  And I need to make sure I do it right, of course.

So the protocol would be: 
1. Dissolve 3 level tablespoons of soy lecithin in 1 cup of water
2. Dissolve 1 level tablespoon of SODIUM ASCORBATE powder in 1/2 cup 
of water. 
3. Poured both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned
the unit on
Etc...

Is that right?

Thanks!
Gina

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: FW: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary


   
http://www.cheapvitamins.com/Product/Sodium-Ascorbate-119-serv.aspx?gclid=CM
3wkqm59pwCFURR2godT311ag
http://www.iherb.com/Sodium?gclid=CPizury59pwCFZla2godIHVxaw
http://www.herbspro.com/search/products.asp?txtSearch=SODIUM+ASCORBATEmorep
rods=gclid=CNPu6MO59pwCFc5U2god8VxSbA

and probably at your local health food store.

Marshall



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CSPast post about Migraine head aches... OT

2009-09-16 Thread larry tankersley

Hey Folks I'm wondering if anyone remembers a post on Migraine head 
aches, and hopefully will post or send it to me.
 As I recall the person that posted had used a modality for some other reason 
and his/her long standing migraine's ended.
I have a friend whose 15 year old daughter is suffering daily. Sure hope 
someone knows what I'm referring to or any other suggestions. Thanks 

larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA

RE: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms Kefir?

Deb

If you want to research kefir one of the best sites is
http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

You will get a lot of information from the site and that is where I got my
original grains.

Dianne

Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:28:57 -0400
From: mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms Kefir?

Sorry, that is outside my knowledge base. Never tried it, and have
never researched it.

Marshall

Deborah Gerard wrote:
Marshall,
What are your thoughts on Kefir.. Is it worth making and taking for
the probiotics in it?
thanks deb

*From:* Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:08:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms

Preventing the flu and colds. This is what I have found seems to work:

1. colloidal silver, good preventative, pretty good at ending the bout
(kills pathogens directly)
2. Vitamin D (immune system boost)
3. Lactobacillus rhamnosus lysate powder (such as del-immune V)
(immune system boost)
4. Olive leaf extract. This can be tough to take on an empty stomach,
or if nausea is present. (kills pathogens directly)
5. Serratpeptase can relieve a sore throat in a matter of minutes if
you put the powder into the mouth and let it dissolve, swallowing a
little at a time. (kills pathogens directly by dissolving their wall
or exposed DNA)
6. MMS. Does not seem to work that well with viruses though. Great
for parasites and fungi.

Marshall

Bob Banever wrote:
Tara,

When I had flu like symptoms last year I took MMS and colloidal
silver. My symptoms were gone in two days. Started with 2 drops MMS
and worked my way up to 6 drops every couple of hours. Took 3 oz of
silver in the AM and PM. Seemed to have worked for me.

Bob
- Original Message - From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net
mailto:gar...@grandecom.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: CSHigh Fever/Flu symptoms

I would be taking 5 Olive Leaf Capsules or strong tea, boiled
(decoction) with plenty of lemon and honey to make
it palatable, a cup every 3-4 hours.

Garnet

Tara McClintick wrote:
Hi Silver Listers,

I?m using Argentyn 23 for immune support for my younger son, (I
know it

is expensive, but I?ve already bought it) ? my older son has come
home today with Flu symptoms , 102.5 fever, achy, headache, chills.
I?m reading Silver can combat Flu, any experience? any suggestions on
how can

I determine the dosage? He?s 170lbs. lean build. Thanks, Tara

Tara McClintick

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Re: CSChemotherapy v/s Alternatives and Natural Medicine

2009-09-16 Thread Del at Dri-Wash


Donna,

There are Doctors and organizations that use Alternative and Integrative 
means to treat Cancer.   Here is a pretty good start of a list.  Del


Cancer Control Society  http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com/greensheet.htm

If you go to the home page.  http://www.cancercontrolsociety.com  you will 
find links to lots of other useful information on alternative and 
integrative medicine practitioners.


Del#

Del ( 20 Year NHL Survivor )

1989  Malignant lymphoma, follicular and
   diffuse, small cleaved-cell type (Working
   formulation).  Malignant lymphoma, poorly
   differentiated lymphocytic type, nodular
   and diffuse (Rappaport).  - Stage IV

19908xCHOP full remission confirmed.
1990Exercise and supplement regimen began.
2005Relapse - skin, lymph node above  below
  abdomen.
2005Alternate /complementary regimen began.
2006Remission
2008Ocular fNHL - Stage III
2008Alternative /complementary regimen began
2009Remission? - Watch  Wait

#

- Original Message - 
From: Donna dscroggs44...@gmail.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy


This is a good question and I'd like to know also!
Donna ACS

So, if you were diagnosed with cancer, are there places where you can go 
that will direct an alternative course of therapy?  Very few people would 
know just what to take and how much.  Also, you'd need to be monitored to 
see if it was working and you wouldn't want to go back to the regular 
oncologist.


Pat



- Original Message 
From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:58:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSChemotherapy

Pat,

  It just so happens that the only type of cancer that does respond well 
to chemo is lymphoma Hodgkins and non-Hodgkins.  These are liquid 
cancers and not solid tumors (until an advanced stage).  As far as breast 
cancer is concerned... if a woman is lucky enough to have the tumor 
surgically removed that hasn't spread and is the only growth, then that 
will cure the cancer (but not get rid of the cause).  The chemo and 
radiation is done just in case but does not work well on breast or any 
solid tumor. By far and away alternative methods work better.  Cannabis 
oil (not hemp seed oil) is one of the most effective on this planet. 
Oleander extract (Sutherlandia OPC), IP6, colloidal silver, iodine 
(specific for breast and thyroid cancers), cansema (blood root tincture) 
are all very effective as well but are usually used together.  Cannabis 
oil is by far the most natural and effective therapy out there IMO.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com
To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 5:51 PM
Subject: CSChemotherapy


Why do these people (Health Ranger) emphatically claim that NO ONE has 
ever been cured of cancer by chemotherapy? My father in law had chemo for 
non-Hodgkins lymphoma at 85 and an interferon therapy a couple years 
later, then had heart bypass at 89 and was fine till 94. I know several 
women who've had breast cancer and after surgery and chemo have survived 
without cancer symtoms for all these years. That is just why alternative 
medicine proponants lose credibility, they make sweeping dismisals of all 
mainstream medical treatments. They are so hostile to physicians that they 
don't even realize that THE DOCTOR WANTS TO SUCCEED BY MAKING THE PATIENT 
WELL. Course, I'm thinking I might try home treatment if it ever happens 
to me. Pat






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CSFw: Integrative Holistic Cancer Treatment. . . . Additional Groups/Practitioners/Clinics/Health Institutes

2009-09-16 Thread sms

Here are additional resources for alternative cancer resources and health.
S-Max
 
Yahoo Groups
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oleandersoup/
searching-alternati...@yahoogroups.com;
symphonichea...@yahoogroups.com;
cancerc...@yahoogroups.com;
cancercu...@yahoogroups.com;
cancercu...@yahoogroups.com;
cancer_alternati...@yahoogroups.com;
cancervict...@yahoogroups.com
 
 
Practitioners/Clinics/Health Institutes
http://www.janethull.com
http://www.Beating-Cancer-Gently.com (Bill Henderson)
http://www.winningcancer.com/
 
vgamm...@adelphia.net; (Vincent Gammill's retreat Ctr. in Del Mar,Ca)
 
Dr. Munoz
www.sdiegoclinic.com
 
Gerson Institute in San Diego
 
Simoncini
http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/simoncini-writes.html
 
Savely YurkovskyMD (German New Medicine, NY)
 
Paracelsus clinic
http://www.pbmn.org/inner/clinics_overview.html
 
Hippocrates Institute in Florida
http://www.hippocratesinst.com

CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2009 #549

2009-09-16 Thread Paul Bond

Hi Dan,

 

They're all still alive at the moment, and all living a fairly normal life
as far as I know (one I haven't met in person, but met his wife and son
instead, as they'd heard word of an alternative on the grape vine).  I'm not
well versed on the conditions of each, but strangely, all four have stomach
cancer.  One of the four has other conditions too, and has returned to his
home country for surgery.  That was several months ago, and it's only
infrequently if I see his wife that I hear anything, which isn't really that
informative.  Two of them have been using MMS1 for a couple of weeks or
maybe as long as a month now.  I've had no feedback as to whether or not it
is proving effective or not.

 

I should say at this point that I don't track them particularly other than
if I run into them or a mutual acquaintance and I ask how they're doing.  I
give the stuff away if someone asks for it, but I'm not in any advisory
capacity other than maybe scribble down the protocol for them.  Preferably,
if they can read English (or Spanish I guess) then I email them part 1 of
JH's book.

 

Regards

Paul

 

From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
[mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: 16 September 2009 18:27
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #549

 

What is the status of these 4 people compared to the 14 people doing chemo?
Or are they included in that number?

 

Dan

RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question

About how long did you have to go thru the herx?  I'm hoping that I can get 
thru this by alternating doses.  I don't want to give up.  My vit C levels were 
not where they needed to be according to my blood test.  

From: rans...@atmc.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Strange question
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:35:29 -0400

I don't want to just blithely call this a Herx, but most likely you have 
pathogens fleeing the onslaught of the Lipo-C and going to the skin to try to 
survive. My very first experience with such a thing was from my first few doses 
of CS, made from Ode's Silverpuppy, back in early 2000. Since then I've become 
an old hand at it. It is often aggravating, sometimes disgusting and never any 
fun.
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Re: CSFw: Integrative Holistic Cancer Treatment. . . . Additional Groups/Practitioners/Clinics/Health Institutes

2009-09-16 Thread Alan Jones

Also:  http://www.cancertutor.com

Alan

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM, sms s...@emotap.com wrote:

Here are additional resources for alternative cancer resources and
 health.
 S-Max

 Yahoo Groups
 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/oleandersoup/
 searching-alternati...@yahoogroups.com;
 symphonichea...@yahoogroups.com;
 cancerc...@yahoogroups.com;
 cancercu...@yahoogroups.com;
 cancercu...@yahoogroups.com;
 cancer_alternati...@yahoogroups.com;
 cancervict...@yahoogroups.com


 Practitioners/Clinics/Health Institutes
 http://www.janethull.com
 http://www.Beating-Cancer-Gently.com (Bill Henderson)
 http://www.winningcancer.com/

 vgamm...@adelphia.net; (Vincent Gammill's retreat Ctr. in Del Mar,Ca)

 Dr. Munoz
 www.sdiegoclinic.com

 Gerson Institute in San Diego

 Simoncini
 http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/simoncini-writes.html

 Savely YurkovskyMD (German New Medicine, NY)

 Paracelsus clinic
 http://www.pbmn.org/inner/clinics_overview.html

 Hippocrates Institute in Florida
 http://www.hippocratesinst.com




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RE: CSPast post about Migraine head aches... OT

2009-09-16 Thread Gina Moore

Is this what you were talking about?  I've been using this for a couple of
months, but apparenlty I haven't gotten to the dose of L-Tryptophan I need.
I'm at 2000 and hoping that this month will be better!  (I get monthly
migraines at TOM.)

L-Tryptophan 500 mg - 9000 mg daily (I think if taken throughout the day,
the biggest dose is taken at bedtime)
B3 300 mg daily
B6 between 25 and 50 mg daily

This was from another group I'm on, but I think the person who posted it
(Jim) is on this group too.  Credit goes to him!
Gina



From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSPast post about Migraine head aches... OT

Hey Folks I'm wondering if anyone remembers a post on Migraine head
aches, and hopefully will post or send it to me.
As I recall the person that posted had used a modality for some other reason
and his/her long standing migraine's ended.
I have a friend whose 15 year old daughter is suffering daily. Sure hope
someone knows what I'm referring to or any other suggestions. Thanks 
larry tankersley, Gainesville FL. USA


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Re: CSPast post about Migraine head aches... OT

2009-09-16 Thread Craig Chamberlin


Hi Larry,

My wife's migraines disappeared within a couple of weeks after she 
dumped all grains, simple carbs...not quite Atkins...she still eats 
brocolli and the other more complex (realize that isn't quite the right 
word) vegetables.


Its simple and there isn't a downside:)

Good luck,

Craig

Hey Folks I'm wondering if anyone remembers a post on Migraine 
head aches, and hopefully will post or send it to me.
As I recall the person that posted had used a modality for some other 
reason and his/her long standing migraine's ended.
I have a friend whose 15 year old daughter is suffering daily. Sure hope 
someone knows what I'm referring to or any other suggestions. Thanks



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Re: CSPast post about Migraine head aches... OT