RE: CS>(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.

[Ode Coyote]

 Yes it is her fault for not recognizing perceptual limitations and acting 
accordingly.
 She knows that, unlike the younger generation that believes the world 
should be perfected for them...or else.

 Had it been a root in the woods, same thing, but no one but God to blame.
 Blame God..He doesn't care, nor will He pay...nor will He remove 
offending roots.

" I tripped and the planet came up and smacked me.  BAD planet! "

 Because one man be blind, there shalt be no traffic in all the world?
..don't think that'll ever happen. [If I'm wrong, we're all doomed]
So maybe someone should have chained Mom to a chair.
Somehow, I think she'd rather be dead than "protected"...like... the day I 
can't go for a walk, just shoot me, I'm done.


The only way you won't make a mistake is to have no choices to make.

ode [When I hit that snooze button, the sun stops rising and the universe 
awaits my pleasure in waking...dream on.]



At 03:38 PM 3/2/2010 -0500, you wrote:

This is all well and good -- and typically I keep my mouth shut on something
like this, but I had to chime in. Consider those that have challenges,
albeit physical, handicapped or whatnot...little things such as broken
pavement are true hazards. My Mom at 77 years of age is in pretty good
physical condition, yet she has a depth perception (due to a macular pucker
in one eye -- which has since undergone surgery...we're hoping for great
results). She *couldn't* see the height difference in two slabs of pavement
(which are the sidewalks where she is in florida) and she took a tremendous
spill. Granted...that one or two inch difference to you and I is nothing.
But her fall was so bad that two folks ran right over and helped her up. She
wound up with a black and blue eye, swollen spots all over the side of her
head and body...and was quite sore (and almost petrified) to go outside
again. She did blame herself but if you look at the big picture...is it
really her fault because of her limited eye sight? Things need to be
relatively safe for everyone, not those that are lucky enough to be
physically fit to not have any "issues".

Sorry...struck a chord.

Lisa



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Re: CS>Introduction

[Ode Coyote]

  Looks like you've applied some already.
Tain't nuthin like DYI to construct some wisdom.

ode

At 03:17 PM 3/2/2010 -0800, you wrote:

Hi,

My name is Ed and I'm new to this group.
I have been interested in and used as needed ionic/colloidal silver for 
about six years now.
It has been very effective for me especially in early stages of colds and 
flu. This has been
a tough winter so far and I have spent about $180 for 64 oz of Earthborn 
Colloidal Silver. (16, 16, and 32)
In order to save money I have decided to start making my own and just 
purchased a unit from SilverGen.
I haven't recieved it yet but I'll look forward to any constructive words 
of wisdom.

Best of health to all of you!  Ed



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Re: CS>Silver wire

[Ode Coyote]

www.atlasnova.com




At 06:01 PM 3/2/2010 -0600, you wrote:
I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.


Thank you so much,
Leslie



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Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.

Dick





From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
Subject: CS>Silver wire

 
I have lost the links for buying the wire so would 
whoever sent would you please sent to me again.
 
Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CS>Silver wire

[GARY ABEL]

Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36

I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.

Dick





From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
Subject: CS>Silver wire


I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.
 
Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CS>Silver wire

[GARY ABEL]

I failed to mention the going rate on silver is per troy oz (15 make a lb 
rather than 16).




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From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36

I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.

Dick





From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
Subject: CS>Silver wire


I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.
 
Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and 
cheaper) 99.9% pure.  

At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price 
directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like 
ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.  

Are there cheaper places?

Dick





From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36
 
I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





 From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.

Dick





 From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
Subject: CS>Silver wire

 
I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.
 
Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CS>OT

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don't think they have taken it out.  They are supposed to be doing so for 
childrens but I doubt they will for pets.  I don't really know though, as I 
don't vaccinate.  dee

On 3 Mar 2010, at 01:19, Shirley Reed wrote:

>   I read recently that pet vaccines had their thimerosal removed in 1997 
> because it was wreaking havoc on people's pets.  I have been unable to 
> confirm this.  Does anyone here happen to know about this?  If true, more 
> precise info will be very good 'ammunition' in any discussion about 
> vaccinations of any kind.  Anybody know exactly when and by what means the 
> mercury was taken out?  All info appreciated.  pj  Contacting me at my 
> personal addy is ok since this is definitely OT.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Silver wire

[GARY ABEL]

I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.  I've been kind of looking 
around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more 
contact or something.  But for now using coins is much cheaper.  They last a 
long time too.  The person who first told me about making CS said they'd 
probably last me forever.   Not sure what it takes to wear them down.    Does 
anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?

Thanks,   Gary





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From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and 
cheaper) 99.9% pure.  

At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price 
directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like 
ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.  

Are there cheaper places?

Dick





From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36

I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
 Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.

Dick





From: Leslie 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
Subject: CS>Silver wire


I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
please sent to me again.
 
Thank you so much,
Leslie

Re: CS>How to make "gels"?

[Tad Winiecki]

Lisa-  You might experiment with a very small amount first, it is very 
powerful.  It might depend on how thick you wanted it, and I would heat 
the water with the xanthan gum then dilute with CS.  Or I suppose you 
could heat gently on the stove.  Or perhaps just stirring it in and 
letting it sit would thicken it after a while, I haven't played around 
with it.


Nancy



Lisa wrote:

Thanks so much...I actually have some xanthan around too :)

Would you say a teaspoon of xanthan to a half cup or cup of CS?

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] 

Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to 
be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, 
cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- 
Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various 
ones and see what works.
  



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RE: CS>How to make "gels"?

[Lisa]

Thanks for the tips Nancy.

I need to make a new batch of CS and plan on having some fun with it. I'd
like the consistency that's thick enough so you can put some on and not have
to worry about it sliding off/around. So, starting with a little bit sounds
good and I'm glad you mentioned that it's powerful. I probably would've
started with more than I needed...

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:28 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>How to make "gels"?

Lisa-  You might experiment with a very small amount first, it is very 
powerful.  It might depend on how thick you wanted it, and I would heat 
the water with the xanthan gum then dilute with CS.  Or I suppose you 
could heat gently on the stove.  Or perhaps just stirring it in and 
letting it sit would thicken it after a while, I haven't played around 
with it.

Nancy



Lisa wrote:
> Thanks so much...I actually have some xanthan around too :)
>
> Would you say a teaspoon of xanthan to a half cup or cup of CS?
>
> Lisa
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] 
>
> Lisa- I have used Xanthan gum to make gels, a tiny amount, just needs to 
> be heated very briefly, like 15-20 seconds in a microwave, in water, 
> cool, then add the CS. There are other gels like konjac root- 
> Glucomannan; Guar gum, various seaweed gums, etc. You could try various 
> ones and see what works.
>   


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Re: CS>OT

[Golden Aldi]

Dee, those are my thoughts exactly. Why would or should they take the
mercury, or anything else they have in their vaccines for that matter, out?

Remember, people, the vaccines are not here to help fight off diseases, its
to create havoc in our bodies, or in animals. No vaccine is good. I would
rather contract the disease and treat that, then compromise my immune system
any further.

Aldi

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

> I don't think they have taken it out.  They are supposed to be doing so for
> childrens but I doubt they will for pets.  I don't really know though, as I
> don't vaccinate.  dee
>
> On 3 Mar 2010, at 01:19, Shirley Reed wrote:
>
> >   I read recently that pet vaccines had their thimerosal removed in 1997
> because it was wreaking havoc on people's pets.  I have been unable to
> confirm this.  Does anyone here happen to know about this?  If true, more
> precise info will be very good 'ammunition' in any discussion about
> vaccinations of any kind.  Anybody know exactly when and by what means the
> mercury was taken out?  All info appreciated.  pj  Contacting me at my
> personal addy is ok since this is definitely OT.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Silver wire

[Golden Aldi]

How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not
touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful.
:-)

I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones
without going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who
else might have some for sale?  I could probably just switch over to the
wires, but which should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental
questions, but I'm asking them anyway :-)

Aldi

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL  wrote:

>  I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.  I've been kind of
> looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there
> is more contact or something.  But for now using coins is much cheaper.
> They last a long time too.  The person who first told me about making CS
> said they'd probably last me forever.   Not sure what it takes to wear them
> down.Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
>
> Thanks,   Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
> www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Richard Goodwin 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>  That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and
> cheaper) 99.9% pure.
>
> At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price
> directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like
> ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.
>
> Are there cheaper places?
>
> Dick
>
>  --
> *From:* GARY ABEL 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>  Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36
>
> I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple
> dollars over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator
> clips.  Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved
> with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I
> guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver
> market.
>
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
> www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Richard Goodwin 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>  www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.
>
> Dick
>
>  --
> *From:* Leslie 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
> *Subject:* CS>Silver wire
>
> I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you
> please sent to me again.
>
> Thank you so much,
> Leslie
>

Re: CS>Silver wire

[GARY ABEL]

I use two pencils with alligator clips sandwiched between and rubberbands 
around pencils to hold in place.  Attach clips to coins and lay pencils across 
container with coins in waterand yes with the clips above the water 
line...only coins in the water.
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From: Golden Aldi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:56:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not 
touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful. :-)

I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones without 
going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who else might 
have some for sale?  I could probably just switch over to the wires, but which 
should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental questions, but I'm 
asking them anyway :-)

Aldi


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL  wrote:

I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.  I've been kind of looking 
around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more 
contact or something.  But for now using coins is much cheaper.  They last a 
long time too.  The person who first told me about making CS said they'd 
probably last me forever.   Not sure what it takes to wear them down.    Does 
anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
>
>Thanks,   Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Richard Goodwin 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and 
>cheaper) 99.9% pure.  
>
>At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price 
>directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like 
>ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.  
>
>Are there cheaper places?
>
>Dick
>
>
>
>

From: GARY ABEL 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36
>
>I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
>over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
>Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
>making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
>they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 
>
>
>
>
>

From: Richard Goodwin 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.
>
>Dick
>
>
>
>

From: Leslie 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
>Subject: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
>please sent to me again.
> 
>Thank you so much,
>Leslie

Re: CS>Silver wire

[Golden Aldi]

Scratch that last email from me. I went to the one site, and they had it
explained which would be better. I've decided to go with the 10 gauge.

I am having problems placing my order, since i'm ordering from Germany :-(
It keeps telling me its incomplete, but for me to complete the order, I
would have to name a state, BUT I'M IN GERMANY!!

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Golden Aldi  wrote:

> How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should
> not touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be
> helpful. :-)
>
> I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones
> without going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who
> else might have some for sale?  I could probably just switch over to the
> wires, but which should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental
> questions, but I'm asking them anyway :-)
>
> Aldi
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL  wrote:
>
>>  I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.  I've been kind of
>> looking around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there
>> is more contact or something.  But for now using coins is much cheaper.
>> They last a long time too.  The person who first told me about making CS
>> said they'd probably last me forever.   Not sure what it takes to wear them
>> down.Does anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
>>
>> Thanks,   Gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>> www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Richard Goodwin 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>>
>>  That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common
>> (and cheaper) 99.9% pure.
>>
>> At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price
>> directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like
>> ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.
>>
>> Are there cheaper places?
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* GARY ABEL 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>>
>>  Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36
>>
>> I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple
>> dollars over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator
>> clips.  Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved
>> with making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I
>> guess too they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver
>> market.
>>
>> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>> www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
>>
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Richard Goodwin 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>Silver wire
>>
>>  www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Leslie 
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Sent:* Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
>> *Subject:* CS>Silver wire
>>
>> I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you
>> please sent to me again.
>>
>> Thank you so much,
>> Leslie
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Silver wire

[Pat]

I was thinking that with the Colloid Master, I could use silver coins by 
cutting slots in the lid, cutting holes in the coins, and joining the coins and 
alligator clips with silver wire.  But what would be the advantage?  And would 
the machine do as well?  It's designed to use the flat silver bars, but does it 
make any difference?

Pat





From: Golden Aldi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:56:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not 
touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful. :-)

I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones without 
going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who else might 
have some for sale?  I could probably just switch over to the wires, but which 
should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental questions, but I'm 
asking them anyway :-)

Aldi


  


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Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

I have used 10 ga and 12 ga.  It really doesn't matter.  They will get worn 
down anyway eventually, so even if you start with 10 ga, it will gradually 
dwindle down to nothing.

I think the wires are easier to work with than coins, although the coins would 
have more surface area, so might be better because of that.  And yes, for sure 
you want to prevent the alligator clips from touching the water.  You don't 
want any of their material to get into you.  It might be interesting to drill a 
hole in the coin and hold it with a silver wire, but ... hate to waste the 
silver in the hole...

Also, I don't know the purity of coins.  Supposedly 999 is ok, but I personally 
prefer , which you can definitely get in the wire.

there are places that make silver strips and sheets too.  I forget where they 
are.

Dick





From: Golden Aldi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:56:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

How would you suspend the coins in the water? The alligator clips should not 
touch the water, right? I haven't a clue. A photo would surely be helpful. :-)

I have silver strips and have been wondering where I could get new ones without 
going to the place where I bought the generator. Any ideas on who else might 
have some for sale?  I could probably just switch over to the wires, but which 
should I get? 10 or 12 gauge? I realize these are elemental questions, but I'm 
asking them anyway :-)

Aldi


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:12 PM, GARY ABEL  wrote:

>
>I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.  I've been kind of looking 
>around and thinking of making with the wire as someone told me there is more 
>contact or something.  But for now using coins is much cheaper.  They last a 
>long time too.  The person who first told me about making CS said they'd 
>probably last me forever.   Not sure what it takes to wear them down.Does 
>anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
> 
>Thanks,   Gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 
>
>
>
>
>

 From: Richard Goodwin 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:05:12 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>That price -- $36/oz is for 99.99 % pure silver, not the more common (and 
>cheaper) 99.9% pure.  
>
>At ccsilver, they say their 99.9% is $31/oz, but they don't give a price 
>directly for 99.99%.  Converting from length to oz, it looks to me like 
>ccsilver's 99.99% is around $37, so they are comparable.  
>
>Are there cheaper places?
>
>Dick
>
>
>
>

 From: GARY ABEL 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:48:57 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>Wow.   Silver is at $17 an ounce right now.This site wants  $36
> 
>I use silver bouillon coins  .999   you can usually get them a couple dollars 
>over going rate.  Of course you have to be set up with alligator clips.  
>Anyway, just wanted to point that out.  Maybe there is more involved with 
>making silver wire than minting coins, but that seems awful high.  I guess too 
>they don't want to hassle with adjusting prices with silver market.
>>
> Matted photos and Native American style flutes by gajon
>www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 
>
>
>
>
>

 From: Richard Goodwin 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:22:50 AM
>Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>www.atlasnova.com is where I get mine.
>
>Dick
>
>
>
>

 From: Leslie 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 7:01:09 PM
>Subject: CS>Silver wire
>
>
>I have lost the links for buying the wire so would whoever sent would you 
>please sent to me again.
> 
>Thank you so much,
>Leslie

CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link 
from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

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Re: CS>A couple of Questions

[Dan Nave]

Re: CS>Getting Started

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg126108.html

Dan

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:06 AM,   wrote:
> Thank you.  I did manage to find some references using your suggestion, so
> will start from there.
> Cathy
>
> In a message dated 3/1/2010 12:57:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Try searching on:
>
> "how to use colloidal silver" +Dan
>
> This may not be the final answer, but it is a place to start.
>
> Dan
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:11 PM,   wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I decided to go with the Silver Puppy and so far I really like it.  Had a
>> few adventures before the final product but so far so good.
>>
>> Question 1.  If the CS is contaminated, how does it effect the product?
>> The
>> reason I am asking is after it was finished I filled all the little
>> bottles
>> I bought from Ken and it sat covered loosely with a paper towel for a few
>> days and then I closed it up with the lid.  I did thoroughly wash and then
>> rinse
>


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Re: CS>OT

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Agreed Aldi, and the thing is if you get the disease, it is only one thing to 
treat, whereas vaccines damage the immune system so you end up with a whole 
host of things to treat!  dee

On 3 Mar 2010, at 13:48, Golden Aldi wrote:

> Dee, those are my thoughts exactly. Why would or should they take the 
> mercury, or anything else they have in their vaccines for that matter, out?
> 
> Remember, people, the vaccines are not here to help fight off diseases, its 
> to create havoc in our bodies, or in animals. No vaccine is good. I would 
> rather contract the disease and treat that, then compromise my immune system 
> any further.
> 
> Aldi
> 


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Re: CS>A couple of Questions

[Cathy39etc]

Thank you very Much!   That is exactly what I  was looking for!
Cathy
 
 
In a message dated 3/3/2010 9:51:44 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:

Re:  CS>Getting  Started

http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/msg126108.html

Dan

On  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:06 AM,   wrote:
>  Thank you.  I did manage to find some references using your suggestion,  
so
> will start from there.
> Cathy
>
> In a message  dated 3/1/2010 12:57:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>  bhangcha...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Try searching  on:
>
> "how to use colloidal silver" +Dan
>
> This  may not be the final answer, but it is a place to start.
>
>  Dan

Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Steve G]

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM

This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this link 
from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Alan Jones]

The point is not so much, are GMOs bad for you, it's consumers have a right
to know which foods are GMO.

Do you don't disagree with that?

Alan

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Steve G  wrote:

> I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
> vegetables.
>
> In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
> hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
> does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.
>
> Big deal.
>
>
-- 
Alan Jones

RE: CS>LYME AND SILVER

[Scott Adams]

I am a bit behind in reading the list. Sorry to be so late on this one.

My wife got back 80+% of her health by taking 12 ounces of our homemade EIS
(CS) a day. Later she added a ridge machine to the mix and seems to come the
rest of the way home.

CS is an amazing antibiotic!

Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Goodwin [mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:07 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>LYME AND SILVER
> 
> Yes, infusion -- either IV drip or direct injection into arm vein.
> 
> Yes, encouraging for sure.  But the cost to them in terms of 
> well-founded paranoia is a real shame.  The Dr is afraid to 
> be associated in any official way with CS, and is even very 
> careful about lyme diagnoses -- we had to get tested by 
> turning in our blood samples to a vet because vets have 
> better tests than the medical establishment does.
> 
> And the guy who actually supplied the silver is extra careful 
> as well, but in spite of that has been threatened on more 
> than one occasion.  Serious threats to his life.  His brother 
> works for CIA, and he has treated a number of very high level 
> officials in government, so between those two he has some 
> protection, he thinks.  Still, he stays far below the radar.
> 
> And of course I have long ago forgotten who these people are...
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Ode Coyote 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 7:21:08 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>LYME AND SILVER
> 
> 
> 
>   "Infusion" is like IV drip?
> ..done by a "friend" of the doctor?
> 
> If that's the case it shows that doctors do often think out 
> of the box, but just can't "DO" out of the box and some have 
> the guts to make that "whispered prescription" along with the 
> denial it allows.
> ..not all evil slaves to the "system" where making money and 
> self defense [set up by consumers] are the major motivators 
> of service limitations.
> 
> I once shipped 6 CS generators to a NYC hospital [no names on 
> that order..paid for by the hospital to disappear into some 
> broom closet in it] and several more to doctors [of something 
> or the other ], many to Vets and some to actual MDs. [for use 
> by their own families? ]..and who knows how many that 
> filtered their way in though 3rd parties running unlabeled 
> next to a water cooler with a "By the way...get some of that 
> "water" on your way out" [Can't tell you what it is, but 
> drink some every few hours].
> 
> An encouraging story.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:49 AM 2/18/2010 -0800, you wrote:
> > Hello Orv,
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this email was to me or not, but I'll 
> answer it anyway.  It was my wife who really had lyme 
> symptoms 3 years ago.  She was tired all the time, head in a 
> fog, and couldn't get through a day without a nap or two, had 
> no energy for normal activities, starting to get some 
> arthritis, especially in her legs.  There were probably more 
> symptoms, but I don't remember.
> > 
> > She had a blood test that came back positive, so our Dr 
> tested me as well, and I also tested positive, so we both 
> went on the CS, made by a friend of our Dr who saved his own 
> life when he was half dead from lyme symptoms.
> > 
> > We both got infusions of CS -- about 20 cc if I remember 
> correctly -- every week or two to start, then less often as 
> time went on.  We also drank 3-4 oz a day of CS.  We stopped 
> the infusions after a year or so, but have continued the CS 
> since then (3+ years) because we also haven't had colds, flu 
> or flu shots or any other illness since we started the CS.
> > 
> > I had not noticed any symptoms that I would have attributed 
> to lyme or to any other disease other than the usual aches 
> and pains of getting older (62 at the time).  I was starting 
> to get some arthritis in my knees and wrists, and had 
> experienced a general weakness in my legs for years.  I did 
> not feel confident going up and down stairs any longer.  
> Figured it was just age and not being in great shape.  Didn't 
> really think about it.
> > 
> > After starting the CS, the first thing I noticed was that I 
> developed all these little itchy bumps all over my lower 
> legs.  This lasted for several weeks, then finally went away. 
>  After the bumps went away, I found that the arthritis in my 
> knees also went away, and my legs felt stronger and more 
> reliable than they had in years.  Surprise.
> > 
> > My wife got better than better, got her energy back, no 
> longer needed as many naps, and eventually after a couple of 
> years, the Dr figured out lyme was cured due to lack of symptoms.
> > 
> > That's about it.  Our lyme cases were pretty mild compared 
> to some.  The guy who treated us with CS, and who taught me 
> to make it, has cured some people who were very close to 
> death from l

RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[William Corley]

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

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RE: CS>LYME AND SILVER

[Scott Adams]

Whoops typo there. Ridge machine meant RIFE machine! 

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Adams [mailto:msad...@msadams.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>LYME AND SILVER
> 
> I am a bit behind in reading the list. Sorry to be so late on 
> this one.
> 
> My wife got back 80+% of her health by taking 12 ounces of 
> our homemade EIS
> (CS) a day. Later she added a ridge machine to the mix and 
> seems to come the
> rest of the way home.
> 
> CS is an amazing antibiotic!
> 
> Scott Adams
> www.lyme-resource.com
> You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them 
> think! - Scott
> Adams 
>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Richard Goodwin [mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:07 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>LYME AND SILVER
> > 
> > Yes, infusion -- either IV drip or direct injection into arm vein.
> > 
> > Yes, encouraging for sure.  But the cost to them in terms of 
> > well-founded paranoia is a real shame.  The Dr is afraid to 
> > be associated in any official way with CS, and is even very 
> > careful about lyme diagnoses -- we had to get tested by 
> > turning in our blood samples to a vet because vets have 
> > better tests than the medical establishment does.
> > 
> > And the guy who actually supplied the silver is extra careful 
> > as well, but in spite of that has been threatened on more 
> > than one occasion.  Serious threats to his life.  His brother 
> > works for CIA, and he has treated a number of very high level 
> > officials in government, so between those two he has some 
> > protection, he thinks.  Still, he stays far below the radar.
> > 
> > And of course I have long ago forgotten who these people are...
> > 
> > Dick
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Ode Coyote 
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 7:21:08 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>LYME AND SILVER
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   "Infusion" is like IV drip?
> > ..done by a "friend" of the doctor?
> > 
> > If that's the case it shows that doctors do often think out 
> > of the box, but just can't "DO" out of the box and some have 
> > the guts to make that "whispered prescription" along with the 
> > denial it allows.
> > ..not all evil slaves to the "system" where making money and 
> > self defense [set up by consumers] are the major motivators 
> > of service limitations.
> > 
> > I once shipped 6 CS generators to a NYC hospital [no names on 
> > that order..paid for by the hospital to disappear into some 
> > broom closet in it] and several more to doctors [of something 
> > or the other ], many to Vets and some to actual MDs. [for use 
> > by their own families? ]..and who knows how many that 
> > filtered their way in though 3rd parties running unlabeled 
> > next to a water cooler with a "By the way...get some of that 
> > "water" on your way out" [Can't tell you what it is, but 
> > drink some every few hours].
> > 
> > An encouraging story.
> > 
> > Ode
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At 04:49 AM 2/18/2010 -0800, you wrote:
> > > Hello Orv,
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if this email was to me or not, but I'll 
> > answer it anyway.  It was my wife who really had lyme 
> > symptoms 3 years ago.  She was tired all the time, head in a 
> > fog, and couldn't get through a day without a nap or two, had 
> > no energy for normal activities, starting to get some 
> > arthritis, especially in her legs.  There were probably more 
> > symptoms, but I don't remember.
> > > 
> > > She had a blood test that came back positive, so our Dr 
> > tested me as well, and I also tested positive, so we both 
> > went on the CS, made by a friend of our Dr who saved his own 
> > life when he was half dead from lyme symptoms.
> > > 
> > > We both got infusions of CS -- about 20 cc if I remember 
> > correctly -- every week or two to start, then less often as 
> > time went on.  We also drank 3-4 oz a day of CS.  We stopped 
> > the infusions after a year or so, but have continued the CS 
> > since then (3+ years) because we also haven't had colds, flu 
> > or flu shots or any other illness since we started the CS.
> > > 
> > > I had not noticed any symptoms that I would have attributed 
> > to lyme or to any other disease other than the usual aches 
> > and pains of getting older (62 at the time).  I was starting 
> > to get some arthritis in my knees and wrists, and had 
> > experienced a general weakness in my legs for years.  I did 
> > not feel confident going up and down stairs any longer.  
> > Figured it was just age and not being in great shape.  Didn't 
> > really think about it.
> > > 
> > > After starting the CS, the first thing I noticed was that I 
> > developed all these little itchy bumps all over my lower 
> > legs.  This lasted for several weeks, then finally went away. 
> >  After the bumps went away, I found that the arthritis in my 
> > knees also went away, an

Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[sol]

It seems to me that once GMO genes are used in any crop, those genes are 
going to be turning up in non-GMO crops, because they spread from field 
to field via wind pollination or insect pollinators. This has already 
happened repeatedly where ever GMO crops are grown.
I doubt there are any non-GMO crops which have the same crop in GMO form 
anywhere near that do not also now have those genes. I would bet it 
would be very difficult to find corn or soybeans without the GMO genes 
even if the grower never planted a GMO seed.

How far away does a non GMO crop have to be to NOT pick up those genes?
How long would those genes persist in those crops even if all GMO crops 
stopped being planted today?

sol


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[GARY ABEL]

Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






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From: Steve G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:


>From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
>Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
>To: "Silver List" 
>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
>
>
>This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
>think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
>
>I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
>and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
>stand up and speak out about GMO.
>
>I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
>of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 
>
>The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
>consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
>agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
>integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
>farmers.  
>
>We need to show them that we do indeed care! 
>
>Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this 
>link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
>http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf
>
>Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
> 
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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

If you care about civil liberties you should care.  The great Not So Man is 
creating seeds that are modified to not produce seeds after one time use.  
That's building in fake obsolescence for the pure motives of profit.   They are 
also claiming patents on their genes.  We all know that GMO seeds spread in the 
wind.  Farmers in Mexico wanted to grow a form of old time heirloom corn.. 
they'd been growing for years. They discovered when tested that their corn had 
been fertilized by GMO seeds and contained GMO genes.   The move of So Not Man 
is to patent their genes so that corn like this no longer belongs to the 
farmers but to them.    

Even if you dont care about your health... please care about our liberties. 
When Hitler started to prune the Jews, many didn't care..it's not happening on 
our doorstep... but he had to be stopped otherwise he'd have gotten total power 
and then eradicated not ony Jews, but everyone of mixed race, black, native 
american, chinese... 

Big oaks from little acorns grow...and in this case they're not friendly like 
oaks!

Many of the seeds have to be used with fertilizer and herbicides, all of which 
destroy the earth.  Every move to encroach on our liberties is subtle.. it 
comes with subtle messages that this is 'for our own good' and is, IMO a method 
of controlling us.   

please think again!
with love and care for what happens to our liberties
sunny x
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From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






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From: Steve G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:


>From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
>Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
>To: "Silver List" 
>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
>
>
>This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
>think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
>
>I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
>and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
>stand up and speak out about GMO.
>
>I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
>of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 
>
>The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
>consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
>agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
>integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
>farmers.  
>
>We need to show them that we do indeed care! 
>
>Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this 
>link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
>http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf
>
>Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
> 
>
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>
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>
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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/19/monsanto-gm-corn-causing_n_425195.html?ref=fb

part of the research about rats getting organ failure it's not conclusive, but 
it's worrying and warrants further research.

Do we trust a company who also produced DDT, Agent Orange and Aspartame..to 
name a few AND are not sorry for what they've done?    

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

Sorry Mike, but this is kind of important... and want to honor the fact that 
you have been very wonderful about not being all huffy around off topic. 
Perhaps that's because foundating our interest in CS is a general caring about 
finding more healthy ways of living and simpler wellness approaches...


I'll say no more
sunny x

 
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From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:50:22 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






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From: Steve G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:


>From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
>Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
>To: "Silver List" 
>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
>
>
>This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I 
>think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
>
>I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural wellness 
>and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent requirement now to 
>stand up and speak out about GMO.
>
>I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the integrity 
>of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) alfalfa. 
>
>The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe that 
>consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and our 
>agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm the 
>integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of organic 
>farmers.  
>
>We need to show them that we do indeed care! 
>
>Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this 
>link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
>http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf
>
>Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
> 
>
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>
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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Frank]

Please add my WOW as well.
Thanks
Frank


From: GARY ABEL 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive


Wow.  Sorry to hear that.  You should.  






 
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From: Steve G 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 1:05:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

  I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and 
vegetables.

  In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized 
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which does 
the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

  Big deal.




  --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:


From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM


This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong 
to. I think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural 
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent 
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the 
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO) 
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not 
believe that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply 
and our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm 
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of 
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following 
this link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!

http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

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Re: CS>Silver wire

[cking001]

I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.

Chuck
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On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.  Does
> anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
> 
> Thanks,  Gary
> 


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CS>EIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek

[Brickeyk]

Looking at the archives I found Harold's recipe for EIS Nasal Spray. This  
time I noticed his use of Fenugreek to help clear lung congestion. How much 
and  how often did you take the Fenugreek? I was using a salt/baking soda 
sinus wash  and it controls my sinus problem but I can't miss one day. I 
remember using  Harold's recipe with better results. I ordered Fenugreek from 
Puritan Pride  where they have a 40% off sale, buy 2 and get 3 free and free 
shipping. See if  that helps get rid of an Asthma wheeze.
Brickey

Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

I don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of 
silver.

You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 

You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.

I haven't seen anything in here yet that compares all that.  Would like to.

Dick





- Original Message 
From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.

Chuck
If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!

On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.  Does
> anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
> 
> Thanks,  Gary
> 


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[jr orrilia]

Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

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Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural
wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and
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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
it will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?
 
 jr orrilia  wrote: 

=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.    

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All


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wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and
emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog 


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Richard Goodwin]

I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jr orrilia 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
it will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?

 jr orrilia  wrote: 

=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that 
just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a 
foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
very few of them have the same effect in humans.
 
 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 

=
I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jr orrilia 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
it will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?

 jr orrilia  wrote: 

=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

A peek into our world.. 

Feed the Future - Forest gardens - Sustainable Lifetime Food for All


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wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us to evolve and
emerge? http://www.pierresoleil.com/ourblog 


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Re: CS>Silver wire

[cking001]

I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest
price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just "Get 'er Done!"
A single coin will yield all you'll ever use.

Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988.  Each
contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value.

Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world.

Chuck
Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres

On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> I
> don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of 
> silver.
> 
> You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> 
> You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.
> 
> I haven't
> seen anything in here yet that compares all that.  Would like to.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
> I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
> make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.
> 
> Chuck
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
> 
> On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> >
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> > probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.
>


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Pat]

"So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?"

That reminds me.about 12 years ago, I took a pet white rat to the vet for 
treatment of mammary cancer.  Rats get that a lot.  He said they have something 
that will cure the cancer, but that he'd have to fill out hours worth of papers 
to obtain and use the stuff.  

He did surgery on her and she died not too long after.  I had two others who 
had surgery.  One chewed her stitches open and you could see all her insides 
through the huge hole.  She chewed the second set of stitches open, too, but 
did fine and lived a few more months which is a very long time for rats.  Rats 
tend to get cancer easy, but it might just be that their lives are so fast and 
short (less than three years).  Maybe what would cure them could cure humans.  
Worth a try!

Pat


  


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Sara Mandal-Joy]

My Amish neighbors raise pigs.  They usually grow their own feed, but 
their first year here didn't have a crop, so bought feed, including GMO 
corn - not knowing there was any difference, or any problem.
Their hogs ate and ate and ate, more than double what they were used to 
hogs consuming, but continued
to lose weight.  No fat, and lost muscle as well.   Had them tested, no 
disease or parasites.  But their
organs were shutting down, unable to digest and utilize all the food 
they were eating. Last year they

had a good crop, plenty of their own feed and the new pigs did fine.  Sara

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it 
will do this to humans also."
  



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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Annie B Smythe]

It's not just mice, other animals and even insects 
have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees 
and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch 
website and read the reams of research and studies 
that have been done.


I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I 
believe they're dangerous to the entire food 
chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their 
crops are contaminated with that junk that they're 
infringing on patents. The companies that made 
that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other 
people's fields. I cannot for the life of me 
figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to 
control the GMO junk that gets blown into his 
fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing 
companies to own genes and plants like that is 
dangerous to the food security of the entire 
world, nit just us. And allowing any company to 
control food supplies is obscene and a 
Dictatorship in the making. If you can control 
food and water you can control whole populations 
and countries. And it looks to me like that's 
exactly what these companies are doing and the US 
government and others are skipping down that 
garden path like a bunch of brainless robots.


Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that 
just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a 
foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
very few of them have the same effect in humans.
 
 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 


=
I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jr orrilia 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it 
will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?

 jr orrilia  wrote: 


=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen



-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.


In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  


I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 


The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 


Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
.120471.eeehU8&source=taf

Thanks!  And please, please, forward this to everyone you know
 

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Feed the Future- The blog In depth articles - forest gardens, natural
wellness, human consciousness WHAT has to happen for us 

Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

"Maybe what would cure them could cure humans."

That would be great, but unfortunately it's been shown repeatedly that that's 
not the case.  Not always, but often.


 Pat  wrote: 

=


"So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?"

That reminds me.about 12 years ago, I took a pet white rat to the vet for 
treatment of mammary cancer.  Rats get that a lot.  He said they have something 
that will cure the cancer, but that he'd have to fill out hours worth of papers 
to obtain and use the stuff.  

He did surgery on her and she died not too long after.  I had two others who 
had surgery.  One chewed her stitches open and you could see all her insides 
through the huge hole.  She chewed the second set of stitches open, too, but 
did fine and lived a few more months which is a very long time for rats.  Rats 
tend to get cancer easy, but it might just be that their lives are so fast and 
short (less than three years).  Maybe what would cure them could cure humans.  
Worth a try!

Pat


  


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Re: CS>Silver wire

[GARY ABEL]

Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make  between 
.999 and .?.  Seems minimal to me.

Thanks,   Gary    



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From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest
price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just "Get 'er Done!"
A single coin will yield all you'll ever use.

Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988.  Each
contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value.

Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world.

                            Chuck
Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres

On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> I
> don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of 
> silver.
> 
> You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> 
> You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.
> 
> I haven't
> seen anything in here yet that compares all that.  Would like to.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
> I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
> make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.
> 
> Chuck
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
> 
> On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> >
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> > probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.
>


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

I spent 4 years in genetics research at a med school and I agree that GMO 
concerns are valid based on multiple observed issues; my point was that one 
couldn't come to that conclusion simply because they had a negative effect on 
mice.

"And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the 
US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of 
brainless robots."

Ironically, it was only a year ago that more government control was all the 
rage - and still is in some quarters.

TW



 Annie B Smythe  wrote: 

=
It's not just mice, other animals and even insects 
have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees 
and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch 
website and read the reams of research and studies 
that have been done.

I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I 
believe they're dangerous to the entire food 
chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their 
crops are contaminated with that junk that they're 
infringing on patents. The companies that made 
that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other 
people's fields. I cannot for the life of me 
figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to 
control the GMO junk that gets blown into his 
fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing 
companies to own genes and plants like that is 
dangerous to the food security of the entire 
world, nit just us. And allowing any company to 
control food supplies is obscene and a 
Dictatorship in the making. If you can control 
food and water you can control whole populations 
and countries. And it looks to me like that's 
exactly what these companies are doing and the US 
government and others are skipping down that 
garden path like a bunch of brainless robots.

Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
> I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is 
> that just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means 
> a foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
> humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
> very few of them have the same effect in humans.
>  
>  Richard Goodwin  wrote: 
> 
> =
> I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: jr orrilia 
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> "It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
> it will do this to humans also."
> 
> So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?
> 
>  jr orrilia  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
> that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will 
> do this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
> remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: William Corley 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> You would do well to become better educated on GMO.
> 
> Bill Corley
> www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
> The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
> without having to talk the talk.  
>--  Alan Cohen
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
> vegetables.
> 
> In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
> hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
> does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.
> 
> Big deal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:
> 
> From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
> Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> To: "Silver List" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
> This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
> think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
> 
> I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
> wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
> requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.
> 
> I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
> integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
> alfalfa. 
> 
> The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
> that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
> our agricultural 

RE: CS>Silver wire

[Neville Munn]

Three nine or four nine silver, it matters little.  Three nine silver is 
usually three nine *plus* % pure fine silver, and is close to four nine anyway 
from what I understand, and the amount of impurities in three nine as compared 
to four nine is not worth worrying about, water used is of more concern than 
the silver purity.  

 

Each to his/her own preference, but don't take to heart some of the info out 
there stating minimum four nine silver *should* be used, cos that's 'pure' BS.  
Three nine pure fine silver is the *minimum* one should use, anything higher is 
personal choice, or availability.  If one wishes to use four nine silver that's 
fine, go for it, but three nine is adequate, ignoring cost.

 

N.
 
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:00:51 -0800
> From: dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> I don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form 
> of silver.
> 
> You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> 
> You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.
> 
> I haven't seen anything in here yet that compares all that. Would like to.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
> I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
> make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.
> 
> Chuck
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
> 
> On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> > I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> > someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> > is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> > about making CS said they'd
> > probably last me forever. Not sure what it takes to wear them down. Does
> > anyone know any drawbacks to using the silver coins?
> > 
> > Thanks, Gary
> > 
> 
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Re: CS>Silver wire

[cking001]

It IS minimal.
Nothing to worry about, won't make a difference.

Canada does it because it's a bullion coin and guarantees its assay to
, there is none finer.

Anything assayed to 999 is AT LEAST 999 or better (could very well BE
, just didn't want the assay cost).

A bullion coin sells for slightly above spot price. I don't see you
getting an ounce of pure silver for much less anyway.

Either fineness is acceptable for CS production.
You don't need a lot, either...

Chuck
Living proof that beautiful mutants exist among us.



On 3/3/2010 7:58:11 PM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make
> between .999 and .?. Seems minimal to me.
> 
> Thanks,  Gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Native American style flutes &
> Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~
> www.etsy.com/shop/gajon
> 
> 
> 
> -
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I
> don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest
> price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just "Get 'er
> Done!"
> A single coin will yield all you'll ever use.
> 
> Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988. Each
> contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value.
> 
> Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world.
> 
> Chuck
> Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres
> 
> On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com [link: 
> mailto:dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com])
> wrote:
> > I
> > don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form 
> > of silver.
> >
> > You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> >


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CS>GMO foods

[djphelps]

Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population?Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way.Debbie

Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Richard Goodwin]

Yes, I agree.  And it is also true that diseases have been caused many times in 
mice, but that doesn't mean they will be caused the same way in humans.

I think we're in violent agreement here.

There is an old story I like, apocryphal as it may be:  The FDA decided to test 
whether wool suits are harmful, so they took an entire wool suit, dissolved it 
in a vat of sulphuric acid, then injected the entire thing into a mouse.  The 
mouse died.  The FDA's conclusion:  Wool suits can be hazardous to your health.





- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Goodwin 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:34:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that 
just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a 
foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
very few of them have the same effect in humans.

 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 

=
I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jr orrilia 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
it will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?

 jr orrilia  wrote: 

=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
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Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

I agree.  Those coins sound like a very good way to do CS.  The only reason I 
do wire is because it is easier to form into convenient shapes, connect to, 
etc.  Plus, I make many gallons of CS, not only for myself and family, but also 
for friends and others, so I do need some quantities of supplies.

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest
price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just "Get 'er Done!"
A single coin will yield all you'll ever use.

Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988.  Each
contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value.

Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world.

Chuck
Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres

On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> I
> don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of 
> silver.
> 
> You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> 
> You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.
> 
> I haven't
> seen anything in here yet that compares all that.  Would like to.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
> I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
> make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.
> 
> Chuck
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
> 
> On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> >
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> > probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.
>


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Re: CS>GMO foods

[Steve G]

There are two main theories about the bee population problem.

One is a nasty parasite - read about promising developments at this site - 
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm

There is also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the honeybees' 
ability to find their way home.   Having some trouble finding a site for that.

No evidence of GMO involvement.

Steve

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, djphe...@att.net  wrote:

From: djphe...@att.net 
Subject: CS>GMO foods
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:50 PM



Makes me wonder if the GMO food is what has affected the bee population?
Something to look into, if it's truly affecting mice and pigs this way.

Debbie



 



  

Re: CS>Silver wire

[Richard Goodwin]

Good question.  I suppose it depends on what the other .0001 consists of.  
Arsenic?  Lead?  Copper?  What?

Personally, for the $small, I will go the extra 9 in stuff I make for myself 
and friends.  $4 for enough silver wire to make 50 gallons of CS?  Small price, 
IMO.  But I can't really disagree with you.  Just feels better to me to go for 
the 4 nines.

Dick





From: GARY ABEL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:58:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire


Ok, I have to ask this question...how much difference does it make  between 
.999 and .?.  Seems minimal to me.
 
Thanks,   Gary
 
 

 Native American style flutes &
Matted photos by ~ Gajon ~
www.etsy.com/shop/gajon 





 From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:40:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire

I don't really see the rationalization for trying to get cheapest
price for a one time in a lifetime expenditure. Just "Get 'er Done!"
A single coin will yield all you'll ever use.

Canada has produced Silver MAPLE LEAF $5 coins since 1988.  Each
contains 1 troy ounce of pure 99.99% SILVER and has a $5 face value.

Easy to find, and the purest silver coin in the world.

Chuck
Now Serving: Left d'oeuvres

On 3/3/2010 7:00:51 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> I
> don't understand how using coins can be cheaper than using any other form of 
> silver.
> 
> You have to compare purity --- 999 vs 
> 
> You have to compare actual amounts and actual cost.
> 
> I haven't
> seen anything in here yet that compares all that.  Would like to.
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 6:27:05 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Silver wire
> 
> I use Canadian Silver Coinage.
> I heat with a propane torch to soften, hammer it out on an anvil to
> make a thinner sheet, and cut into ribbon for use with tin snips.
> 
> Chuck
> If you don't care where you are, you ain't lost!
> 
> On 3/3/2010 8:12:48 AM, GARY ABEL (gajo...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > I dunno too much about the prices on silver wire.
> >
> I've been kind of looking around and thinking of making with the wire as 
> someone told me there is more contact or something. But for now using coins 
> is much cheaper. They last a long time too. The person who first told me 
> about making CS said they'd
> > probably last me forever.  Not sure what it takes to wear them down.
>


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[Richard Goodwin]

Was it Benjamin Franklin who said:


“Those who desire to give up 
freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, 
either one.”
?

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Annie B Smythe 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I spent 4 years in genetics research at a med school and I agree that GMO 
concerns are valid based on multiple observed issues; my point was that one 
couldn't come to that conclusion simply because they had a negative effect on 
mice.

"And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the 
US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of 
brainless robots."

Ironically, it was only a year ago that more government control was all the 
rage - and still is in some quarters.

TW



 Annie B Smythe  wrote: 

=
It's not just mice, other animals and even insects 
have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees 
and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch 
website and read the reams of research and studies 
that have been done.

I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I 
believe they're dangerous to the entire food 
chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their 
crops are contaminated with that junk that they're 
infringing on patents. The companies that made 
that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other 
people's fields. I cannot for the life of me 
figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to 
control the GMO junk that gets blown into his 
fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing 
companies to own genes and plants like that is 
dangerous to the food security of the entire 
world, nit just us. And allowing any company to 
control food supplies is obscene and a 
Dictatorship in the making. If you can control 
food and water you can control whole populations 
and countries. And it looks to me like that's 
exactly what these companies are doing and the US 
government and others are skipping down that 
garden path like a bunch of brainless robots.

Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
> I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is 
> that just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means 
> a foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
> humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
> very few of them have the same effect in humans.
>  
>  Richard Goodwin  wrote: 
> 
> =
> I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: jr orrilia 
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> "It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
> it will do this to humans also."
> 
> So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?
> 
>  jr orrilia  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
> that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will 
> do this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
> remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: William Corley 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> You would do well to become better educated on GMO.
> 
> Bill Corley
> www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
> The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
> without having to talk the talk.  
>--  Alan Cohen
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
> vegetables.
> 
> In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
> hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
> does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.
> 
> Big deal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:
> 
> From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
> Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> To: "Silver List" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
> This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
> think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
> 
> I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
> wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
> requirement now to stan

Re: CS>EIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek

[Dan Nave]

I was just reading in Dr. David Williams' Alternatives News Letter
about new oral probiotics.  (For the mouth, and presumably upper part
of the digestive tract.)

I know it is "oral," but I wonder if something like this would help
with sinus problems.  It is supposed to help with ear infections.
Don't know if it would be advisable to do a nasal wash with something
like this, but I expect some of the bacteria get up there naturally
anyway.

The one he is recommending consists of S. Salivarius called BLIS K12
but apparently this is only one of many beneficial oral bacteria.
This (Active-K12 brand) appears to be pretty expensive.  I looked up
oral probiotics on Swanson's Vitamins  and they have one (Oral
Probiotic Formula) with Blis K12 and several other types of bacteria
for a much, much cheaper price, $5.99 for 30 lozenges.  This is in
contrast to an outrageous price, in my opinion, of up to $60 for the
Active-K12, which doesn't even say how many lozenges are included, or
give any technical information.

Anyway, I was talking about inoculating infants with beneficial oral
bacteria as they were teething about 30 years ago...

Dan


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM,   wrote:
> Looking at the archives I found Harold's recipe for EIS Nasal Spray. This
> time I noticed his use of Fenugreek to help clear lung congestion. How much
> and how often did you take the Fenugreek? I was using a salt/baking soda
> sinus wash and it controls my sinus problem but I can't miss one day. I
> remember using Harold's recipe with better results. I ordered Fenugreek from
> Puritan Pride where they have a 40% off sale, buy 2 and get 3 free and free
> shipping. See if that helps get rid of an Asthma wheeze.
> Brickey


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Re: CS>(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.

[Dan Nave]

Cyclamate is the best tasting artificial sweetener ever!!!

I really miss it.  ;-))

I do...

Dan

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:03 PM, sol  wrote:
> Well, I'm sorry to tell you but MY personal experience is that I feel the
> same whether having some or being off it completely for years at a time. I
> just feel no adverse effects from it. It was one of the first things I
> looked at given my known health issues.
> If removing something for several years from one's diet doesn't fix
> anything, and starting up again does not increase anything, I don't see the
> point, myself.
> And I have read that it is an individual sensitivity issue, and for us at
> this house it does seem to be just that, and we have decided not to worry
> about it.
> BTW, I do agree the FDA is lax on this, and don't really care  how many
> adverse reports they receive. I even read somewhere that they long ago
> stopped collecting adverse event data on it.
> Now, if they were to bring back Cyclamate, which were exonerated umpty ump
> years ago I'd be a happy camper.  Meantime, I try to not use too much of any
> sweetener, but I don't have any fear of a bit of aspartame now and then.
> sol
>
> At 11:25 AM 2/23/2010, you wrote:
>>
>> But aspartame is a known neurotoxin (exitotoxin) sol, and has also been
>> cited as causing cancer among other things.  I believe it is on the agenda
>> of the FDA at the moment as so many have called for a ban on it.  It was
>> banned for many years until Reagan got into power and then it was allowed,
>> as its discoverer was a friend of his (so I read.)  My friend suffers from
>> really sensitive skin on her legs and feet and cannot bear to have them even
>> brushed up against.  Only one of many of her ailments, so I would have
>> thought that to keep drinking something which is known to damage nerves
>> would be the height of folly.  dee
>
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Re: CS>EIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek

[Brickeyk]

I am also taking probiotics daily. I make my own probiotics using ground up 
 cabbage, an old pickle jar and filled with water. Put it in the garage and 
wait  72 hours. The next jar I use some of the old for seed and only have 
to wait 24  hours. Might not be the best but the price is right.
Brickey

Re: CS>GMO foods

[Brickeyk]

 
In a message dated 3/3/2010 7:11:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
chube...@yahoo.com writes:

There  are two main theories about the bee population problem.

One is a nasty  parasite - read about promising developments at this site - 
 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090414084627.htm

There is  also a theory that certain pesticides interfere with the 
honeybees' ability to  find their way home.   Having some trouble finding a 
site for 
 that.

No evidence of GMO involvement



Two of my boys raise bees and belong to a bee club. They say that our area  
has never had a case of colony collapse, Puget Sound area. They buy bees 
from  Georgia/Texas. They have mite problems.
Brickey

Re: CS>Colloid Master??

[Dan Nave]

I had this problem (with a silver-puppy), but it was not a problem
with the generator.
I had to clean the jar well with H2O2 and rinse well, and then
everything went back to normal timing.

Dan

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:47 AM, M. G. Devour  wrote:
> Aldi writes:
>> See, I have never yet made any under 6 hours, thats for sure.  Can't figure
>> out why. Like I mentioned before, a few batches ago, I had to cut the
>> brewing, cause it was going on 14 hours.
>
> I suppose if your water happens to be very pure it could slow down the
> early, "seeding" part of the process considerably. Leaving a little bit
> of the previous batch in the jar would probably even that out
> considerably.
>
> It also sounds like Pat ought to cut back on the "ppm" setting to below
> the point at which it generates significant "crud." When you get that,
> it just means you've gone too long, and whatever silver you've added in
> the later phase of the run has gone straight to large particles that
> don't enhance things much and waste electrodes.
>
> Even if the instructions say to run higher, it could be that Pat's
> particular unit needs to be run at a lower setting.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 PM, MaryAnn Helland
>> wrote:
>>
>> > That's really odd, Pat.  Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours.  My CS
>> > is always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars.
>
>> >  --
>> > *From:* Pat 
>
>> > My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing,
>> > then turns off totally when it's finished.  The red light stays on to
>> > indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too
>> > during brewing.)  Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more.  I keep it in the
>> > dining room, so don't look at it often.  It leaves quite a bit of crud on
>> > the bottom of my jars.  The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5.
>> > The worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the
>> > electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on.  It eats
>> > them up, too, sometimes.  I'm on the third set in four years and I don't
>> > make it very often.
>
>> > 
>> > From: Golden Aldi 
>> > My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts
>> > itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red
>> > one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the
>> > instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off,
>> > then maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go 
>> > on.
>> > *grin*
>
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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

10-4...I violently agree...LOL.


 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 

=
Yes, I agree.  And it is also true that diseases have been caused many times in 
mice, but that doesn't mean they will be caused the same way in humans.

I think we're in violent agreement here.

There is an old story I like, apocryphal as it may be:  The FDA decided to test 
whether wool suits are harmful, so they took an entire wool suit, dissolved it 
in a vat of sulphuric acid, then injected the entire thing into a mouse.  The 
mouse died.  The FDA's conclusion:  Wool suits can be hazardous to your health.





- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Goodwin 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:34:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is that 
just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means a 
foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
very few of them have the same effect in humans.

 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 

=
I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: jr orrilia 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

"It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
it will do this to humans also."

So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?

 jr orrilia  wrote: 

=
Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will do 
this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia




From: William Corley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

You would do well to become better educated on GMO.

Bill Corley
www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
without having to talk the talk.  
   --  Alan Cohen


-Original Message-
From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
vegetables.

In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.

Big deal.




--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  

I know that many of you on this list are very concerned about natural
wellness and this includes the food that you eat. There is an urgent
requirement now to stand up and speak out about GMO.

I just submitted my comments to the USDA telling them to protect the
integrity of organics by not approving the use of genetically-modified (GMO)
alfalfa. 

The USDA has alarmingly and mistakenly announced that they do not believe
that consumers care whether or not GMO's are a part of our food supply and
our agricultural production. Approving GMO alfalfa would significantly harm
the integrity of and access to organic food, as well as the livelihoods of
organic farmers.  

We need to show them that we do indeed care! 

Please take a moment to submit your comments to the USDA by following this
link from Food Democracy Now! Then please pass this on. Every voice counts!
http://fdn.actionkit.com/cms/sign/make_a_stand_for_organics/?referring_akid=
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Re: CS>EIS Nasal Spray, Xylitol, Fenugreek

[Dan Nave]

OK, but I am referring to what I believe is a different strain of
bacteria than you probably get with the cabbage.

I also tried the method you mention, but the end result was sickening
(as far as taste and smell are concerned)...
I think it needs some salt, like sauerkraut, and to be fermented away
from oxygen, in order to stop the less desirable bacteria from
multiplying.  But, if you do that, you end up eating too much salt, as
it stays in the water.  Better to make real sauerkraut.

Dan

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:03 PM,   wrote:
> I am also taking probiotics daily. I make my own probiotics using ground up
> cabbage, an old pickle jar and filled with water. Put it in the garage and
> wait 72 hours. The next jar I use some of the old for seed and only have to
> wait 24 hours. Might not be the best but the price is right.
> Brickey


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Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

[slickpicker]

Few men were as smart as Ben.  Maybe Jefferson, but the list is extremely short.


 Richard Goodwin  wrote: 

=
Was it Benjamin Franklin who said:


“Those who desire to give up 
freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, 
either one.”
?

Dick



- Original Message 
From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Annie B Smythe 
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 8:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive

I spent 4 years in genetics research at a med school and I agree that GMO 
concerns are valid based on multiple observed issues; my point was that one 
couldn't come to that conclusion simply because they had a negative effect on 
mice.

"And it looks to me like that's exactly what these companies are doing and the 
US government and others are skipping down that garden path like a bunch of 
brainless robots."

Ironically, it was only a year ago that more government control was all the 
rage - and still is in some quarters.

TW



 Annie B Smythe  wrote: 

=
It's not just mice, other animals and even insects 
have had major problems with GMO crops. Like bees 
and other beneficial insects. Go to GM Watch 
website and read the reams of research and studies 
that have been done.

I've been reading about GMO crops for years and I 
believe they're dangerous to the entire food 
chain. Not to mention telling farmers when their 
crops are contaminated with that junk that they're 
infringing on patents. The companies that made 
that junk need to be sued for caontaminating other 
people's fields. I cannot for the life of me 
figure out how a judge can expect a farmer to 
control the GMO junk that gets blown into his 
fields. It's a miscarriage of justice and allowing 
companies to own genes and plants like that is 
dangerous to the food security of the entire 
world, nit just us. And allowing any company to 
control food supplies is obscene and a 
Dictatorship in the making. If you can control 
food and water you can control whole populations 
and countries. And it looks to me like that's 
exactly what these companies are doing and the US 
government and others are skipping down that 
garden path like a bunch of brainless robots.

Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


slickpic...@cox.net wrote:
> I don't know which statement/question you're referring to, but my point is 
> that just because something has a particular effect on mice it's by no means 
> a foregone conclusion that it will have the same effect (or any effect) on 
> humans.  Cancer has been stopped many times in mice by many substances, but 
> very few of them have the same effect in humans.
>  
>  Richard Goodwin  wrote: 
> 
> =
> I can't detect any logic in that statement/question...
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: "slickpic...@cox.net" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Cc: jr orrilia 
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 7:17:41 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> "It said that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, 
> it will do this to humans also."
> 
> So if a substance cures cancer in mice it will do it in humans?
> 
>  jr orrilia  wrote: 
> 
> =
> Studies were done on mice that ate GMO foods and died shortly after.  It said 
> that their organs eventually shut down, so, if it does that to mice, it will 
> do this to humans also.  This would be the perfect plan to make sure humanity 
> remains sick and remain a prisoner of the big pharmaorrilia
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: William Corley 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 2:15:41 PM
> Subject: RE: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> You would do well to become better educated on GMO.
> 
> Bill Corley
> www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm
> The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk
> without having to talk the talk.  
>--  Alan Cohen
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve G [mailto:chube...@yahoo.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> 
> I have absolutely no concerns about Genetically modified fruits and
> vegetables.
> 
> In my mind genetically modified means that there has been an organized
> hybridization effort as opposed to the natural course of evolution which
> does the same thing, but by accident rather than by design.
> 
> Big deal.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:
> 
> From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
> Subject: CS>Take a stand now and reject Mon San To's GMO drive
> To: "Silver List" 
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 10:02 AM
> This is so important that I am reposting it on all the lists I belong to. I
> think you all know that I am not a sp mmer.  
> 
> I know that many of you on this list a