CSBoo!!
Is there anyone still out there?? Haven't seen a post since May 25th. Maybe my computer is broke, or maybe Mike didn't pay the bill :) Dean Woodward Ivy.gif
CS for Burns
Hi Listers: My wife burned her hand rather severely while cooking. Since she is midway through cemo therapy it scared us. We applied home-made (LVDC) CS, and the pain stopped instantly. The burn healed well, with only a little topical antibiotic for the last bit of healing. Bear in mind that the chemo has reduced her white count to ZERO! Dean Woodward Ivy.gif
RE: CSSomethin` special from Marsha
Marsha that is beautiful. Thanks. Dean -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 10:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSomethin` special from Marsha Dear Silver listers, Please check out this site, and have a great holiday season!! Marsha, now in Vallejo,CA... http://www.casema.net/~pico/kerst/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSSilver
Thanks. Please send it to A.J. Bowden, 4222 Bloomdale, San Antonio, TX 78219. I am mailing you a check today. Dean -Original Message- From: Marsha Hallett [mailto:liah...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, November 29, 1998 3:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSilver -Original Message- From: Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 4:47 AM Subject: CSSilver Marsha: Are you still able to supply silver? One of my friends needs some. Dean Dear Dean, Yup! It is 5 bucks, and I`ll need an address to send it to. My address is: Marsha Hallett 1900 Ascot Pkwy. # 815 Vallejo,CA 94591 Glad to help!! Marsha
CSLess is Better?
Hi Mike, Bruce, Bob, etc. etc. I have been experimenting with CS for awhile now, and found it very useful. I don't (to my knowledge) have any major infections, so have been using CS topically for athlete's foot and jock itch which I have fought most of my life. It really helps. So, take what I say here as it applies to topical uses - I don't know if the same thing would apply for internal use. Recently I started making higher concentrations (usual 3 9-volt batteries, wire from Marsha, current-limiting bulb, etc.) of 35to 40 ppm (Hanna WP1), and started to see decreasing effectiveness in the CS. Recently was in Needville and arranged to visit with Bob Lee (hi-Bob), who has authored so many really well-thought-out posts on this list. Bob commented that lower concentrations seem to work better. That, coupled with my recent experience with less effectiveness from higher concentrations, led me to try very low concentration. I made a batch that tested at 5 ppm, and barely made a Tyndall trace with red laser pointer. Have tried it on the jock itch, and the result has been startlingly good. Makes me wonder if less really is better, and if so why. Could it be that the silver particles are far enough apart in the colloid that they have less inclination to floculate, and therefore are available to function. I would be very interested in the experience of others in this regard, and in any theories to support the observations. Regards to all from Aggie-Land (How about those Aggies!!!) Dean Woodward
RE: CSkidney stones
Jolly: Been there, done that! Anyone who has not experienced that pain can't begin to understand. The exact same thing happened to me in 1959. They never found the stone, but they did find a trace of blood in the urine, and concluded that I passed a stone. Years later (1983) I was found to have gallstones. Is it possible that I experienced gallstone pain instead of kidney stone in 1959?? Be sure they check you for gallstones. Just a thought. Regards, Dean -Original Message- From: tj garland [mailto:garl...@clnk.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 9:18 PM To: jim einert; silver Subject: CSkidney stones Not only did my e mail crash this week, I also. I passed a kidney stone ( I think). I fell off the commode Mon. morning with a pain like a knife in my back. I struggled to the R/B machine and ran 15 min of pain freq. HA!! So much pain that I began to vomit. Finally awoke wife in other end of house and called 911. After 3 shots of Demreol pain subsided. Got CAT scan .Negative. I will get it read again. I never felt anything being passed. I have been having occasional back and side pain for several months. Also some problem urinating, occasionally. Thought Fibro and old age. Got out Health books . They recommend lemon juice/ cranberry/ aloe mix. Also Magnesium and Ginko. Anyone out there been through this? I am trying to stay out of hospital and Allopathic Dr office. Thanks!! Jolly -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSRE: Shock me again baby
Mike: Got two copies of Bill's post; one with the CS on subject line and one without. This whole thing gets complicated don't it??? Dean -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 3:31 PM To: woodw...@educelec.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Shock me again baby Hi Dean and list, Be careful now,we like you around. Had a problem once at Naval Station in Memphis Tenn. Built a new Technical training complex for Aviation Electronics schools.First class of students were getting shocked all over the place. Seems the wiring all over the place was wrong. We staff people said we could fix it right,but they forced the contractors to do it. They couldn`t fix it after three weeks. So the local SeaBee Reserve Unit was activated to do it. After a week they did ask us to help, week later all was well.:-) Seems the main power coming down the road was a old WW2 four phase system which was then ran into a new three phase Delta-Y system thru a polygon tranformer substation. We staff did all the phasing and wire IDing and the CB`s did the wiring. Did the whole complex in one week and had classes going again. Seems I have digressed here,back to Deans house.I will tell you what I`ve done in the past and you can do it if you want to. Take the cover off of you power panel and connect a long wire (so it will reach where ever you want it to) to the neutral buss and get the end of it into your kitchen. This wire is your house ground. Measure from it to your sink,should be zero volts(have seen hot sinks because of disposal problems). Next measure from the house ground wire (the one you brought to the kitchen)to your wall receptical to the round ground hole, should be zero volts. Next measure to the longer of the two slots, (its a system ground) should be zero volts. Next measure to the shorter of the two slots. Should be 115 to 120 volts. If all of this is good, problem is not the house wiring. Read from short slot to sink,should read line volts(115 to 120). Read long slot to sink, should be zero. Now plug in the distiller, leave top off (don`t plug it in),don`t push in the power switch (don`t want it on yet).Read from the neutral wire you brought into the kitchen to the pot,should be zero volts (maybe a few millivolts with a digital meter).If its not zero volts there is a problem in the distiller. The distiller has a nut on the bottom (just one nut).UNPLUG the distiller and remove the nut. This will let you take it apart. Check for any water inside the wiring. If its wet dry it with a hair drier. Make sure its dry where the heater wires are. After its dry and no wires are pinched put it back together. TEST from the neutral wire to the pot again (has to be plugged in). If its not zero volts,take it in for service. Hope this helps some. :-) Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSWARNING: Shock Hazard, Sears Distiller
Bill and Mike: Bill - the fact that it hasn't a grounded plug is probably because the unit is double-insulated (as Bill Lee pointed out). Mike: I am also getting double copies of Bill's posting. Are you getting double copies of mine??? Dean -Original Message- From: Bill Schramm [mailto:wschr...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 5:49 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: woodw...@educelec.com Subject: Re: CSWARNING: Shock Hazard, Sears Distiller You are correct, Dean. I first looked askance at the turn the plug around idea because virtually all modern 2 wire power cords are polarised. However the one on the Sears distiller is NOT polarised. It can be easily inverted. One direction I read 0.7 VAC in the other direction I read 24 VAC. Guess you need to plug it in the right way and leave it there. Incidentally, any of you who have the EcoWater portable distiller, it is the same product. If you look closely on the Sears package or on labels it will say Manufacturer EcoWater. It surprises me that a product that pulls 5A can ship with a nonpolarised 2 wire plug AND still get the UL sticker (which it has). -- From: Dean Woodward woodw...@educelec.com To: l...@fbtc.net; Bill Schramm wschr...@ix.netcom.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSWARNING: Shock Hazard, Sears Distiller Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 8:34 AM Bill: I have done a few more measurements on my Sears distiller. The resistance from both sides of the plug to the metal cannister is greater than 30 megohms (as high as my unit measures). With the unit plugged in (not in water, give me a break :)) I read 50 volts ac between the cannister and ground (same readings with sink as ground and with ground wire in ac plug as ground). If I turn the ac plug around I only read 5 volts ac to ground. I just checked the wall socket and have 120 volts ac from one connector to ground and about 7 millivolts from the other side to ground. So I think that is normal. I don't have any idea where I am getting the 50 volts. If the heating element is grounded at 50/120 of the way from one end, then turning the plug around should make the reading 70 volts. But it doesn't. They didn't teach me this at AM in EE 101. Dean -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 8:49 AM To: Bill Schramm Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSWARNING: Shock Hazard, Sears Distiller Bill Schramm wrote: I also received an unpleasant shock from my sears distiller. It happened when the unit was being cleaned in a metal sink. Unit does contain a do not immerse warning. Thereafter I never clean it without unplugging -- Holy Smoke Folks, Putting electric things in water,with power on!! Throwing gasoline on fires!! I don`t do funerals very well, and I like you all alot, so knock off the dumb stuff. Scareing the hell out of me. :-) Engage brain before starting hands. Think about what you are doing, then think again. Most things require ten minutes of thinking and only one minute of doing. Hind sight is not good, you will be dead before you get to do it. Safety starts at home, not somewhere else. Your brain is your best safety tool. Use it. Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSSmells, Sears Distiller
Hi Joyce and Bill: I'm puzzled by the yellow residue and the bad smell. It suggests sulphur. Joyce does your water supply perhaps have sulphur in it?? Try this: Distill a gallon the normal way; rinse the containter; put the distilled water back in and distill it again. See if the yellow deposit and bad smell persist. Just an idea. Dean -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 9:24 AM To: Joyce Inouye Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSSmells, Sears Distiller Joyce Inouye wrote: I have another concern about Sears Distiller. Someone mentioned before that dirty, yellowish water was left after the distillation process which smelled awful. I totally agree with him because I smelled it. However, I wonder whether the yellow color does not come from the metal, not the water? This question occurred to me after I tried to clean the metal container with apple cider vinegar : water mixture and with lemon-water mixture. I did this to try to get rid of the burnt taste of the water. When I used the lemon-water mixture and left it in the metal container for about 2 days, the water turned a rotten yellow color. It smelled also, though the smell may have come from bacterial contamination. Hi Joyce and listers, Sorry to hear about all your smell problems. In early posting I said I never let any thing touch or get into the pot ,only water and my stainless steel cleaning pad. Also dry it well before putting it away. Never had a smell or taste problem. Would suggest puting a pinch of baking soda in the water before distilling to help the taste. The baking soda will be left behind when done distilling. Always let it cool down before cleaning,just use tap water and the stainless pad. I never would use any organic substance for cleaning( lemon,apple,vineagar). :-) bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSArchiving
Thanks Mike. BTW I am still getting cloned messages from you. As near as I can tell they are exact duplicates. Dean -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 3:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSArchiving When you've got an answer, please post it, Dean. I would guess that many list members are not making full use of the filtering and archiving features available in their e-mail programs. Too many folks are just letting the silver list arrive in their mailboxes mixed with everything else, and it gets to be a nightmare sometimes. If any of you have a solid filtering and archiving solution for any of the major programs and want to share it, go ahead. You might give someone information they didn't know to ask for, and help them make better use of the list. I'm using Pegasus Mail and it has very good filtering and archiving features. I understand Eudora does as well. Others use various Netscape and Microsoft products, which I've not used for mail. I'd love to post instructions for each of the majors on the web page someday... Be well, Mike D. list owner Dean wrote: I must be pretty dense, because I can't find a way to move the silver digest messages to my zip drive for storage. I am using Microsoft Outlook as my e-Mail program. Any help?? Suggest that we go off list with this question. Reach me at woodw...@educelec.com Thanks, Dean -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSWARNING: Shock Hazard, Sears Distiller
I have observed a potentially serious problem, at least in the Sears water distiller which I have. The problem: When the unit is plugged in the entire inner stainless steel container carries full line voltage. I measured the voltage from the water inside the shell to ground (stainless kitchen sink) and it was 123 volts ac. In normal use this may not be a problem, as the plastic outer case of the distiller insulates the inner container. However, if the unit is left plugged in while refilling it there could be serious risk. I don't know if this is a general problem, or just a problem with my unit. I intend to ask Sears that question. Meantime, be aware of a potential safety risk! All the best, Dean
RE: Measuring the particle size of CS
Just a question. Does Stokes Law apply to colloidal suspensions?? Does the + charge on the particles modify the gravitational action on those particles?? Dean -Original Message- From: Jeffrey La Favre [mailto:jeff_lafa...@ameritech.net] Sent: Sunday, September 06, 1998 10:23 PM To: Silver List Subject:Measuring the particle size of CS I would like to submit a possible approach to measuring the size of silver particles in CS that does not require a microscope. The method is drawn from soil science, specifically, methods used to analyze particle sizes in soil. Particles of soil are routinely sized by passing a sample through a series of sieves. However, it is only practical to sieve particles down to a diameter of about 50 microns. Nearly all soils have particles smaller than this. In fact, clay particles are defined as particles with a diameter of 2 microns or less. Beyond the sieving limit of 50 microns, a sedimentation method is usually employed to determine silt and clay particle sizes. These methods rely on Stokes' Law, which can be used to calculate the settling rate of various sizes of particles of known density in a fluid medium of known viscosity. I will give a version of Stokes' Law below in equation form: t =18hn/d^2g(ps-pf) t = time in seconds h = settling distance in centimeters n = viscosity of the fluid in poise d = the diameter of the particle in centimeters ps = the density of the particle pf = the density of the fluid g = gravitational constant = 980.7 centimeters per second squared now some values, all for a temperature of 20 degrees centigrade viscosity of water = 0.01002 poise density of silver = 10.5 grams per cubic centimeter density of water = 0.998 grams per cubic centimeter Suppose we do our measurements of settling in water at 20 degrees centigrade. Furthermore, we want to know how much time it will take a silver particle of specific diameter to settle 10 centimeters in the fluid. Then substituting the appropriate values into Stokes' equation ( I have excluded the units for simplicity, they reduce to centimeters): t = 1.8/(d^2)(9320) Now suppose we want to know how long it will take silver particles of various sizes to settle a distance of 10 cm in water. All that is needed is to enter the particle diameter (in centimeters) into the above equation and solve for t. (note that d^2 is my notation for d squared). Now I will solve the equation for particles of the following sizes: 10 microns (=0.001 cm), 1 micron (=0.0001 cm), 0.1 micron (=0.1 cm), 0.01 micron (=0.01 cm). Then here are the settling times: 10 micron particles will settle 10 cm in 3.2 minutes 1 micron particles will settle 10 cm in 5.4 hours 0.1 micron particles will settle 10 cm in 22 days 0.01 micron particles will settle 10 cm in 6.1 years There is one key assumption in these figures and that is that there is no significant effect of thermal motion in the atoms of the fluid to keep particles suspended, i.e. Brownian Motion. Since I am not a physicist, I am not able to comment specifically on this point. I know from soil science that the 1 micron particles will not be kept in suspension to any significant degree by Brownian Motion. However, Brownian Motion may have some effect on the 0.1 and 0.01 micron particles. If so, these particles would stay in suspension longer than the figures given above, possibly an indefinite amount of time. So how can we use this information to measure the particle sizes of silver in CS? First you make up a fresh batch of CS and analyze it immediately for PPM of silver. You may need to shake the CS to suspend larger particles (if you have particles in the 10 micron or higher size range). Then suppose you set the CS aside for 5.4 hours with the temperature at 20 degrees centigrade. After this time you carefully withdraw a sample with a pipet at a depth of 10 cm from the liquid surface. The amount of the sample must be small compared to the total amount of CS. Then you analyze this sample for PPM. The second sample should contain silver particles of 1 micron diameter or less. If the PPM of both samples are about the same, then you can assume that your CS contains particles of 1 micron or less. Now if you let your CS sit for 22 days and take a third sample at 10 cm below the liquid surface, you can determine how much of your silver is 0.1 micron or less in size (this assumes that a 0.1 micron particle will indeed settle 10 cm in 22 days - a fact that I can't guarantee without further study). There may be several pitfalls to this approach. Nevertheless, I submit it to you as food for thought. Jeff La Favre -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message
RE: [Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs]
Hi John and Valerie: Visited your neat town (that time forgot) last year on an RV travel through the Northwest. Neat! Almost as nice as Texas :) Dean and Patsy Woodward -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 11:29 AM To: surg...@olympus.net Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:[Fwd: Re: Silver: Water preparation for cs] Hi John and Valerie, That little bit of trivia was a quote by Garrison Keilor on his TV show on PBS. It was Lake Wobegone, a fictional town in Minnesota , where all men were handsome, the children above average, etc. He married a Norwegian and moved to Norway or Sweden, got bored with it , came back and started a new show. Thats the best I could do. :-) Bless you Bob Lee -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Concentration and Resistivity
Some time ago I sent in some batches of CS (27 VDC method) for total silver and resistivity measurements at an environmental lab. I have plotted resistivity against silver concentration, as shown on the attached Excel spreadsheet. Three of the readings make a fairly straight line. However, the low concentration sample (9.12 ppm vs 59,500) is way off. Anyone have any thoughts as to why this might be?? Dean Resistivity vs. silver ppm.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet
RE: SEARS WATER DISTILLER
Hi List: I have had my Sears water distiller about a month and a half now, and make ALL of my water for consumption - drinking, cooking, coffee, CS, etc. It is the best tasting water I have ever seen and makes awesome coffee. So I am very puzzled about the bad tastes being reported. Perhaps it something in particular with the local water. Try distilling some bottled spring water, and see if you can isolate the cause. Also, there are two little carbon bags which go in the spout which do the final filtering. Be sure those are in place. Let me know if I can help. BTW: The unit is not made by Kenmore, but by a Japanese company. You can find the original manufacturer's name on the literature which comes with the unit. Dean -Original Message- From: likow...@earthlink.net [mailto:likow...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, July 25, 1998 12:55 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: SEARS WATER DISTILLER Hi Joyce and all - I just got my SEARS DISTILLER but haven't tried it yet since I was waiting to find out about the aluminum factor, so I can't comment on the burnt taste. But I called KENMORE - who actually makes the machine which SEARS only sells - and they checked with their tech dept and assured me that it *was* stainless steel, then faxed me a copy of the tech sheet with a description of the boiling pot as being stainless steel. Then, I was re-reading the directions and noticed that they say stainless steel boiling pot (which I'd missed the first time) in the first time use and set-up section. Then someone on the list said that there were 2 types of stainless steel and that a magnet would stick to the safe one, so I took a little refridgerator magnet and it sticks just fine! I guess it passes all tests for safety. I've noticed other companies selling what looks like this model for A LOT MORE $$! WaterWise has what looks like the exact same thing for $300 and a place out of Australia is selling it for $500+! I paid $120 on sale! Joyce: Did you sample water from the FIRST batch?? They say in the directions that you have to break it in because there's factory residue in it that will affect the taste! Dameon _ I tried the SEARS water distiller, but the water did NOT taste very good--sort of burntish. I tried adding Microhydrin to make it more like Hunza water, but the burnt taste was still there. Drinking burnt water doesn't appeal to me very much. Do any of you know how to clean up the taste of this water? Also, the pot seems to be made of aluminum like Daemon mentioned, and I noticed that although the aluminum content went down in the distilled water, it did not go down as drastically as the other metals did. :) Joyce P.S. My school dumped my mail, so please re-send if you emailed me anything between: July 1 to July 7 July 18 to 20 Thank you! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract
Brooks: I followed up on your information, bought the book and read it. I agree that it is shocking indeed! Is your group open to others? If so, I would be interested in discussing it. Best Regards, and thanks. Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:e...@airmail.net] Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 2:53 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Testing CS/grapefruit seed extract Your reference to brain fog prompts me to offer the following suggestion. Our research group has been doing some investigational inspections of existing literature/research results relating to Excitotoxinsand their effect on the human brain. Among our sources we discovered the work of Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. Our entire staff was thunder-struck by the evidence Dr. Blaylock revealed. I encourage all members of this list to avail themselves of a general review of his work. This gentleman is a world-class neurosurgeon/pathologist who communicates quite understandably to the lay-person. For a revealing, shocking revelation of one of the most tragicand pressing problems faced by the U.S. public I highly recommend you access a fascinating recent public interview between Dr. Blaylock and radio host Jeff Rense. This interview may be accessed by contacting http://www.audionet.com/shows/endofthe line/archive.stmthen click on the July 2 program. I believe this to be cutting-edge information. Our research group is a non-profit, privately-funded group with absolutely NO connection to Dr. Blaylock or his staff. Brooks Bradley. At 08:43 AM 7/1/98 -0500, you wrote: Nancy and others have addressed the brain fog problem which a lot of folks seem to be experiencing-- maybe it's historically been a problem, just not talked about ? I recently took an I.Q. test in which I tested as a dolt for the first time in my life. I followed Bob Beck's advice to get off garlic/ onion/scallion/leek, and started drinking a cup of coffee a day. What I call chatter in my brain ceased. Wil Cavanaugh -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Doc stuff and more
Doug: Count me in for $20 to start, and more later as we make progress. I completely agree with the need to do something to move this technology forward from a scientific point of view. Dean Woodward Let me know where to send my check. -Original Message- From: Douglas McMurtrie [mailto:dmcmu...@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Monday, July 06, 1998 4:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Doc stuff and more Wil, Ted and other list members, I appreciate all your thoughtful comments and I hope I was not taken to be holding the position that doctors are infallable. Progress and truth are perpetually moving targets that all are hopefully striving toward. There is much to say on this whole issue and it touches on many disparate but related things. I will try to stay focused. My posting was in response to the doctor bashing and generally negative view of what is called western medicine. Given the marvellous history of western medicine this strikes me as something akin to slapping your kid because he only got a B+ on his report card instead of an A. Room for improvement. Absolutely. But not too shabby nonetheless. I have great sympathy for Damien and his problem. My family lost a dear friend last year to CF. A delightful young man of 21 years with much promise and we are still saddened by the thought of it. I also have a close friend, a 40 year old woman, who was saved from the ravages of breast cancer by the same western medicine that failed our young friend. I would be the last to deny that we as human beings have much to learn but we is where we is. Since beginning to look into CS about six or eight months ago I have come to believe that there is the POSSIBILITY that this may be a substance of serious importance that has been overlooked. The majority of evidence presented on this list has been anecdotal in nature. This is not to diminish it but the fact remains that this is not the strongest form of evidence on which to conclude the truth of a thing. Wil, you are right that it has much value as a feedback mechanism, serving to confirm and bolster the confidence in conlusions drawn from experiment and controlled study. An example. A friend of mine was suffering for months from a sinus problem resulting in headaches, runny nose, and flu-like symptoms. I gave her some of my homebrewed CS of indeterminate concentration which she began to take. Within a week all the symptoms that had plagued her for months were gone. Did the CS cure her? Damned if I know. Maybe it was an allergy and she changed her shampoo. Maybe she dropped something from her diet. Maybe it was only coincidence and her immune system finally just caught up to the task. These are the kind of problems that are presented with anecdotal evidence. Well, you might say, look at all the positive anecdotes presented here. Again, for drawing scientific conclusions it is no more than suggestive. Maybe those who try CS and get no results simply walk away without ever reporting the negative results. It seems to me that much on the list is asserted as fact e.g. that 650 known pathogens can be killed by CS, or that CS is both bactericidal and virucidal, or that CS functions by disrupting the metablic pathways of bacteria, etc, is really nothing more than opinion, speculation, or the repetition of previously espoused myth. This sort of talk is fine and fun but does nothing to move CS closer to having a solid base of test evidence which might intrigue mainstream researchers enough to take the ball and run with it. About a week or so ago Bob Wells posted an interesting message about a friend that put him in contact with a firm that specialized in doing microbial challenge tests for industry. They were supposed to be quite capable of determining the minimum inhibitory concentration of a particular substance. The cost for testing was given at about $400. This strikes me as exactly the kind of basic science that we should be pursuing. I suggested at that time that we start a small fund to cover the cost of such testing and that I would be happy to salt it with $20 to get started. No response :( . I reopen the challenge now and I will up the ante. With a positive response from the list I will throw in $50 to jump start it. Don't tell me that you all wouldn't love to see the results of such a test! I know that I would. Best to all, Doug. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com
RE: Just received my Hanna TDS-1!
Bob: I have had several batches tested at a local environmental lab. They charged me $25 for total silver test (by digestion method) and $10 for resistivity tests. I don't know how these prices compare with others. Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: Robert L. Wells [mailto:robert.we...@ny.ubs.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 1998 6:56 PM To: silver Subject:Just received my Hanna TDS-1! I just received my Hanna TDS-1 yesterday. It cost me $14.95 plus shipping. The first thing I did was to test the water from my kitchen faucet. We have our own well. It tested at 78-79 ppm. Then I tested the water from our Amway water filter. It registered 74-75 ppm. I next tested distilled water made by my Sears distiller. It tested at 1ppm. I also tested the store-bought distilled water. It also tested 1-2 ppm. So far, so good. I tested my home-brewed CS, and it tested at 18-20 ppm. We make it with 3 9v batteries hooked in series and attached to the silver wire. We do not have a light bulb connected to the series, though I want to make this improvement soon. The silver wire is held in place by a board in which I drilled a couple of small holes about half an inch apart. I got the silver wire (.999 pure) from a place suggested by Marsha (Liahona). I place the board over an 8 oz Kerr bottling jar relatively full of distilled water. I use the board mostly because someone suggested that, ideally, the wire shouldn't touch the bottle, and it seems easier to manage the contraption this way. We let the thing run until one of the leads is pretty gunky. We haven't been very careful about timing. We simply assume that when the annode is pretty covered with flakes and the water seems yellowish in color we have an adequate concentration of CS. I'm pretty happy with the 18-20 ppm result of the last batch. Just for fun, my wife tested a commercial variety of CS that we have on hand. It claims to be 10 ppm. You can imagine my surprise when it tested at 98 ppm. Now I'm confused. Either my TDS-1 isn't calibrated correctly (and therefore all of my measurements are suspect) or the commercial brand I have is under-rated. Maybe I should have both my home brew and the commercial stuff tested at a lab? What might this cost? By the way, one thing I've noticed is that when I drink colloidal silver, I can't taste it with my tongue, but the taste buds at the back of my throat sense a metallic type of flavor that sticks for a bit. Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Sears Water Distiller
I have purchased one of the 'Sears water distillers, and am extremely pleased with it. I am making all of the water we use for coffee and cooking, as well as all of our drinking water, and the water I use for CS production, with the unit. With all this I am only running it perhaps 25% of the time. I consider it a well designed unit and no major drawbacks. The only replaceable parts are the little carbon filter envelopes, which last for months and are quite inexpensive. If I can be of further assistance just let me know. Dean -Original Message- From: Fidget [mailto:fid...@warwick.net] Sent: Saturday, June 13, 1998 7:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Sears Water Distiller The Sears water distiller sale ends Thursday, June 18. I plan on looking at the unit tomorrow as I am interested in purchasing one. Can anyone guide me as to what I should be looking for in the way of a good unit/bad unit? I phoned the local Sears store and asked if there were any product specs and was told whatever is written on the box. As I have no knowledge of these machines, can anyone guide me as to what I should look out for? Any specific parts of the machine that break or wear down quickly. Should I buy any extra parts/pieces (is there any)? Guess I will find out tomorrow, but are there any rubber hoses, or other material, that these machines use? Are they of a material that would be toxic that I should watch out for? Sorry for all the questions people...just want to be prepared to make a wise purchase. Fidget -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: hello
Hi BJS: Maybe we are all recovered from whatever ailed us. It is sure working for me, and I have a bunch of stuff to share with the group in the next week or so. I have been moving for the past week, and it is more than awful. We have moved from a 3400 square foot house to a 2200 foot one. Need I say more?? Dean -Original Message- From: bjs1779 [mailto:bjs1...@theramp.net] Sent: Monday, June 08, 1998 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:hello Judging by the amount of traffic on this list for the last few days, I think I will cut down on my silver intake. bjs -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: FW: More technical questions....TDS1...
John: Try this phone number 03 9769 0666 Dean -Original Message- From: John McLean [mailto:hastb...@nor.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 12:00 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... -- From: jein...@troi.csw.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: FW: More technical questionsTDS1... Date: Thursday, 28 May 1998 4:27 Ginny, Sounds like you may have a defective unit. The TDS1 I have has 3 numbers on it. When you turn it on, and it settles down, it will read 000, if you test a fluid that has particles it will directly read the ppm. I just used mine to check my irony well water. It read 081 or 81ppm. Boy, what is that doing to my system??? Don't drink a lot of it thought, mostly distilled water. Hope this helps! Jim Einert, N.D. Jim, I have been trying to get info on a local importer of the TDS1, and to no avail, hows about a contact for those foreigners (me) to obtain one from US of A John in Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: More technical questions.
List: I heartily endorse that comment. I bought three different steam-distilled waters at our local supermarket. Here are the resistivities of these waters as measured by my (amateur) ohmmeter. Tap Water: 376,000 Ohms Reverse Osmosis Water: 690,000 Ohms Janette Lee Distilled Water: 903,000 Ohms Ozarka Distilled Water: 1,300,000 Ohms Oasis Distilled Water: 2,000,000 Ohms Now, I admit that my measurement techniques and equipment leave something to be desired. However, I tried to keep the test conditions the same for all tested samples. I am investigating acquiring a standard probe for measuring resistivity, and when I do I will report back to the group. In the meantime, use the very best distilled water you can find. Dean -Original Message- From: jein...@troi.csw.net [mailto:jein...@troi.csw.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 2:22 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: More technical questions. Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 10:10:52 -0500 From: Bruce K. Stenulson stenul...@amigo.net To:silver-list@eskimo.com The Hanna Instruments TDS1 is inexpensive and consistant; it adjusts for temperature, too. By the way, a friend brought by a gallon of Sure- Fine Distilled water, bottled in Amarillo, TX, which was doing 'strange things' - whiteish cloudyness in CS generating process... Tested 17ppm of something = badly contaminated distilled water... probably tells us we may not be able to trust the labels of all store bought water... if you find a brand that tests 0 to 1 ppm with the TDS1, stick with it. I used a Hanna TDS1 to check some Sure-Fine Distilled Water', bottled in Little Rock, AR, and it tested at 23ppm. I switched brands bought at the same store, and got distilled water at 1ppm. So it ain't all the same folks!!! Jim Einert, N.D. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: American Cancer Society
I'm sure that there are some profit-motivated people in research who are more interested in their income than they are in saving lives. I am also sure that they are very much in the minority, and that more people in research are as interested as you and I in seeing lives saved. My own son is an MD, and I have been privvy to the extent to which he goes to protect the lives entrusted to his care. I am 1000% sure that he would never suppress information that would be of value to his patients in order to increase his income. So, please, let's not paint with so wide a brush that we tar those good people who are devoting their lives to helping others live longer, more comfortable, lives. We don't need to do that. Let's concentrate on the positive, rather than the negative. The present positive is that we have access to what is arguably the most positive force yet made available to man - that is colloidal silver. We can never bring this development to the majority of the people without active, knowing, convinced participation of the main-stream medical world. If you doubt this please read the book A Remarkable Medicine Has Been Overlooked by Jack Dreyfus. Or, even better, read his book The Lion of Wall Street by the same author which details his efforts to bring to the medical community the truth - that Dilantin has a vast range of benefits apart from the anticonvulsant role to which the medical establishment has relegated it. I can personally attest to the truth of his mission in that thirty years ago Jack Dreyfus' efforts saved my life. Thirty years later those efforts continue to contribute to the quality of my life. We need convinced people who will help us establish not the truth of our position on CS, but the TRUTH ABOUT CS! I believe that ultimately we must form a non-profit, publicly-supported, corporation which will take CS through the arduous process of testing and justification to our government, in the form of the FDA. If we can do that it will be the first time in history, and will be an historic event of the first order. Power to the people will then be a reality. With love, Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:08 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: American Cancer Society Hi all, This thread is being cross-posted into the silver-list from the rife-list, so I realize it's not entirely intentional. And I agree we have a *lot* to be suspicious about... But as hard as it may be to deal with, please remember that some of our own members are in medicine and science, and that there are good people in the mainstream system *whom we need to reach*! So let's try not to offend our true friends... Various folks wrote: Those turkeys know what we know ... they know how to cure cancer but won't release the info because they are milking it for every dollar that they can get. They know what it is not--the cure that is. They are beginning to have to start announcing microbial etiology because the evidence is overwhelming. if it is approved by the fda it very well may be hazardous to living things--like homo sapiens! CUT/POISON/BURN and get paid better than most people on the planet You give these vultures too much credit. THEY do not know how to cure cancer [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Distilled H20
I just tried the link http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol And it worked fine. Dean -Original Message- From: gabriel joseph anast [mailto:sagr...@iname.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 1:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Distilled H20 http://www.zekes.com/~aguadelsol Cisco wrote: Listers, http://www.zekes.com/~aquadelsol/ This is where we started.it is all thereand they are good people. Sorry folks but my old antique puter and my limited server capabilities just dont deal well with sending lots of Megs of information.so ya gotta go do the surfin did you say that this link will work in the future? I couldn't get it to work... * Gabe -- AIM: sagress, ICQ: 11424803 SNAIL: Box 307, Lobelville, TN 37097 Consider all original material public domain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ?
Frank and List: I, too, lurked about a long time, and have finally gotten busy making CS. I have used four different approaches, culminating this morning by actually following Mike's instructions, and I can tell you that is a winner. I am having lab tests done on all four products, and will post, in detail, what I did, how I did it, and what the results were. When Aggie engineers move, they move (just catch our baseball team!). One thing is very clear, and amplifies what Mike has been saying about salt. If you put a microampere meter in the circuit you will find that even the purest distilled water you can find will carry a few hundred microamperes of current from the outset. If you leave it running and meter it you will find a continuous increase in current. So, not using salt (or previous batches as seed simply stretches out the process a little. I don't find this a big problem. I don't know why no one I have read after ever mentioned the artistic beauty of the filmy, diaphanous web of particles which comes off the cathode when things really get going. I am going to try to create some art from this. I am glad that things worked out well with your wife g. G'day. Dean Cisco: ilIigitimous non carbundum! (Don't let the bastards wear you down). -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka [mailto:fmat...@senet.com.au] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 8:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Finally - My first attempt ! How did I do ? Well, after lurking for ages and humming and hahing, I finally got around to making not only the generator but a first batch ! Tonight. My generator is based on Tom Miller's design, 24 VAC rectified and using 20 Ma. I have 2.5mm fine silver wire electrodes. I decided on using the same on both trodes figuring I would simply alternate which was the anode. That way I have double the electrode life without worrying about whether a different metal cathode would affect the quality of my brew. I had 6 cms (almost 2 1/2) immersed into 250 ml (8 oz) of distilled water. I haven't got around to making my own distilled water yet (not sure which way to go) so I bought some bottled stuff from the supermarket. There was absolutely no reaction and I had to toss in about 10 ml 0.9% sodium chloride solution (irrigation sachet from pharmacy) and it roared off. I used the irrigation sachet because I assumed that being pharmaceutical grade it HAD to be pure NaCl and better than table salt. So I let it brew for 10 mins. There were reasonable quantities of small bubbles coming from one electrode and there was a slight milky haze around the other with it slowly building up a whitish/creamy surface. Towards the end a milky tail was starting to drop down underneath it. The solution itself, when completed, had a slight white opaque appearance to it. I tasted it and there was a floury taste to it. Not unpleasant or bitey, just - something! The residue on the cathode was a creamy white on the outer surface to an almost grey close to the metal. It came off easily just by rubbing my fingers over the wire. My wife is uncomfortable with a bit of mastitis at the moment and I remembered reading something somewhere that it helps. But wouldn't you know it ! I couldn't remember whether you had to drink it or rub it in. So being the caring husband that I am, I wanted to make sure I helped so I insisted on both drinking and topical application. Naturally I volunteered to put it on. And folks, I'm convinced this CS stuff must work because I feel better already after putting it on for her! But I'll let you know later whether she does. So what do you think? Am I off and running or did I just get a cheap thrill? Regards...Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: second effort
I know what you mean Michael. I made my first batch day before yesterday, and I was like a kid with a new toy. Neat! Can hardly wait to make my next batch (am out of bottles!). I have gotten kinda serious with my instrumentation, so you can expect a lot of boring details. Whatta ya expect from a Jar-Head?? Dean -Original Message- From: Michael C McNeill [mailto:firew...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 8:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: second effort No, I *don't live online...I just check mail *frequently* when I post questions! grin On Thu, 14 May 1998 20:38:08 -5 M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net writes: Radio Shack sells a 28 volt, 40 mA lamp, in packages of two for a couple bucks or less. It's a type 1819 bulb with a bayonet base, IOW, the geek dinna know what I was asking for? Sheesh. Ok, new bulb tomorrow morn! Oh ... is the lightbulb a vital part of the circuit? Or can I make CS without it? If by bubbled up you mean the rather large bubbles that form just from the hot water (bigger than a millimeter in diameter), then you Ok, I was still waiting, then. grin Now, tho, those really little bubbles have showed up! Ok, the bubbles are in...but no streamers to be seen. The pos. electrode is turning dark (black), a penlight from the side leaves a fog trail (visible beam thru the water), and the water seems to glow a yellow-gold color from the flashlight. Is this a proper reaction? (Wow, another hyper-excited newbie cooks up a batch of cs...) I'm a verra see-it type of learner. I like to watch someone do it first then do it on my own, that's why I keep asking tons of (probably silly) questions... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: second effort
The type of bulb you are looking for is one that will draw 40 milliamperes of current at 28 Volts (in other words, if you hooked this bulb up to 3 9-volt batteries it would draw 40 milliamperes of current). If you hook it up to 4 9-volt batteries you are putting it on 36 volts. This will draw more current by the same ratio as the voltages, that is 36/27 times 40 = 53+ milliamperes. This bulb will glow very brightly, but probably will not burn out. So...it is ok to use. The only real purpose of the bulb is to limit the current if your electrodes short out (as they probably will), and would otherwise draw a lot of current and drag your batteries down. This is all very simple stuff (for an Aggie Electrical Engineer) - I don't know why you find it confusing - they teach it in Electrical Engineering 101! :) God Bless Dean -Original Message- From: Michael C McNeill [mailto:firew...@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 7:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:second effort first effort - 4x 9v batteries in tap-water We sprayed that particular batch on the garden today. second effort - underway now; 4x 9v batteries in steam-distilled water, heated in a coffee-maker pot on the stove. Do I keep the fire to the water until the batch is done, or just preheat the water? About this 40mA bulb... I went to Radio Shack this eve, and the helpful clerk said all his bulbs were too big - 1v or more. What sort of bulb should I use in my machine that is 40mA? Maybe if I knew what sort of bulbs were 40mA, I'd know where to look to buy one. My silver wires both bubbled up nicely when I put them in the water. Now, I'm just waiting to watch the streamers start forming... cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Abscessed tooth
Hello: I am no dentist, but I did publish patient educational audio/visual materials in the dental field, and hence spent quite a bit of time with dentists. Add to that the fact that my teeth were wrecked by the time I was 15 years old (no care), and I do know a bit about teeth. First of all, teeth are generally lost because of periodontal disease, which destroys the bone, loosens the tooth, and eventually it is lost. A nerve dying does not in itself signify loss of the tooth - I have a mouth full of dead teeth which work just fine (and no tooth ache!). Abscess is a threat, but antibiotics can help control this and the body can usually defeat the infection which is what an abscess is. After that it settles down. I am using CS nightly rinse, and it is controlling my periodontal problem, and my mouth is extremely comfortable - no pink tooth brush, and the placque has just disappeared (placque is caused by bacteria, and the CS takes good care of that). Hope these thoughts help. God Bless! Dean -Original Message- From: Jade [mailto:intel...@itis.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 1998 11:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Abscessed tooth At 01:36 AM 5/14/98 -0600, you wrote: I was wondering if you know of anything that I might do to keep the nerves from dying. Hi Vern, Right now, Claire Gilbert I are involuntary experts on unhappy teeth. Both of us are using 'Under the Gum', an herbal mixture that is used in a waterpik device. It's from the Dental Herb Co, 1-800-747-4372, in Northampton, MA. I've just used it twice, so I can't comment much, except to say I like it. Viktoras Kulvinskas, Survival in the 21st Century, was the only helpful information I could find. He advocates using alkaline paste or seasalt for brushing. Seawater or grass juice, zone therapy in the knuckles of fingers toes will relieve a toothache. To keep the tooth, he recommends reducing the acid condition of the body. Use several enemas during the day (I've been finding colonics VERY helpful). Eat alkaline juices, sprouts, sesame seed sea vegetables. I mostly eat fruits vegetables, but I concentrated on taking chlorophyll, barley grass powder, beet powder, wheat grass. I have an infection, so I've been using the zapper; I also had one occasion to use it as a TENS type device to reduce the pain. Spot magnets will aid circulation, healing pain relief. I also been using lots of bee pollen, with all the B vitamins. B's are for the nerves, so it seemed logical, as well as lots of organic cheese. Claire uses raw, unprocessed honey on her gums. Basically, I would reduce any demands on your body--stress, toxins, pollutants and increase all nutritive avenues--extra rest, power foods, lots of purified water. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: solar distiller
Maybe we should hold a reunion. I am for sure the oldest at 73, overseas with 2d Mar Div in November 43. Can any of you Jar-Heads top that?? Dean -Original Message- From: Michael C McNeill [mailto:firew...@juno.com] Sent: Monday, May 11, 1998 7:47 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: solar distiller On Mon, 11 May 1998 23:04:21 -0700 Cisco ci...@iftech.net writes: Mike and J.E., To much like work.we aint got the abilityJ.E. I will find a place for ya too look...it is simple...and makes 2 gal per day. We need That's true, it does sound like it takes some working to do. I'm always looking to add to my info, so once you put the solar plan up, I'll add that to my web-site, too. The pressure distiller looks like a good idea for those who can manage to put one together and run a fire under it. Say.just how many of us former Marines *are* there on this list? Semper Fi cya!! Michael firew...@juno.com http://members.tripod.com/~Outlands homesteading/survival/self-reliant living (and some fun hobbies, too!) _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Here Goes!
Tired of standing on the sidelines and letting everyone else have all the fun! Today I built my generator, and just for fun, not having yet received my silver I put copper wires into tap water (like Mike), and got exactly the same reaction (i.e. a cloud of white coming off one electrode, and bubbles off the other). Once again, not trying to be scientific, but curious, I put the same electrodes into water from our reverse osmosis water system, and the result was totally different. After a bit of time I started to see tiny bubbles form on one electrode, but no cloud coming off the other. Now, I have no idea how many ppm manages to get through the RO membrane, but I will do some experiments and report back to the group. RO water is cheaper than distilled water. I agree that it is fun to watch things start to happen from something as simple as 3- 9-volt batteries and a light bulb. How simple can you get? This whole thing is mind-blowing. I have some ideas of how we might be able to be the first in history to by-pass the drug industry and get something approved (Power to the People!!!). Dean Semper Fi Cisco (enjoyed the paper!) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CISCO
To Cisco: Greetings Mac! Drop a note to another ex-Gyrene (2d Mar Div, WWII - Tarawa, Saipan, Tinian, Okinawa). Semper Fi: Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: brains [mailto:bra...@senet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 7:05 AM To: silverlist Subject:CISCO Ok g'day list ... Cisco is an exmarine who lives on Guam and had a melanoma which metastasized to his liver . in most cases a death sentence ...well he was told he had 6 months to live 2 years ago so he got on to a Rife unit and used it also began using CS and having overcome his problem and knowing that there is a lot of people hurting out there he is helping all those he can with the Bare/rife unit, colloidal silver and anything he can use.. they had a Metussis (whooping cough) outbreak on Guam and that is why Cisco needed to make gallons of CS .. and it saved lives ..they lost a few but saved alot better odds than the medicos (I am biased)he also has been to some of the local islands with his CS and there is a Rife unit on an island that Cisco arranged for them as the third world people don't have access to the facilities that you and I have ... there is a lot more to Cisco but to tell all would cause problems for him and some others he helps elsewhere... so he has a big heart and uses it for good . hope this helps some -- Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Personal Experience
Patsy's doc is a lady rheumatologist here in College Station. I don't feel like she ever encountered Lyme before, but I certainly am impressed with her willingness to learn. I have given her material which I downloaded, and she received it very gratefully. It's the first doc she has had about whom I felt positive. Patsy is showing slow but steady improvement under abx, and her doc said that she didn't want to change a thing, and come back in three months. If you want to talk then call me at 409 696-1068. God bless Dean -Original Message- From: Cat3walker [mailto:cat3wal...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 7:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Personal Experience I am encouraged by what I read from your personal experience account. I hope that your wife is doing better. I also live in TX and am wondering if the doc you are using is near the Houston area. I feel like I need someone who knows more about this disease. Thanks for any info. Peace to you, Cathryn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Replacing/renewing the silver electrodes
I must be missing something here. Is there something wrong with solder, or is it just inconvenient?? Lifetime electronic guy, Dean -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Replacing/renewing the silver electrodes Dan wrote: I make many connections with zero solder.Just twist the wires together an crimp together with visegrip pliers. Dribble some hot glue from a glue gun on the wire for insulation if you wish. Dan and Doug are both correct, in that you can get by without solder. Solder becomes *mandatory* when your connection will be subjected to mechanical stress, bending, vibration, or corrosive environments. Electronic equipment is soldered because it is assumed that it will be subjected to *all* of these! My only caution would be to check the resistance and/or re-make the joints every once in awhile. If things get damp and the wires start to tarnish you could lose your connection. Be well, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Voltage Current.
Thanks Frank. That worked fine! Have a great day. Dean -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka [mailto:fmat...@senet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 6:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: Voltage Current. Sorry Dean, He changed it to http://www.bioelectrifier.com/silver.htm I didn't know till your message (almost straight away). Whenever a link doesn't work, always try going backward to check where it went. And I'll check that it works b4 I post :) Dean Woodward wrote: I am unable to access the Thomas Millar article cited here. It must have been removed from the Infocom server. Does anyone have a copy I can borrow?? Dean -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka [mailto:fmat...@senet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Voltage Current. I know there was a couple of articles recently about how much silver is in a CS solution based on calculations relating to current in the production process. These articles referred to current but not voltage. Can we assume that voltage is not relevant in any way to the production. (sorry for my electrical ignorance). I ask this because I've seen various devices described running from 1 X 9 volt battery, 3 X 9volt batteries, plug packs supplying 30 volts etc. The Thomas Millar article (http://www.infocom/~thomil/silver.htm) suggests that the particles are produced by mechanical action, the current knocking off small particles of silver as it passes through the solution. If so then presumably the higher the current the bigger the particles. And this is where the colour comes into it (apparently). Another article states that the smaller the particles the lighter the colour. Clear for best/smallest, light yellow for acceptable, then onto to brown, green and gray for much bigger particles. However. Thomas Millar says that the longer you take to produce a solution, the more likely you are to form chemical compounds with any of the impurities or salts in the solution. As I understand it pure distilled water is not conductive and at least a tiny amount of sodium chloride is required to allow current to pass thru it. So there will always be at least some silver chloride in with the colloidal. Apparently most silver compounds are described as being a pale yellow colour so I suppose it's hard to destinguish between optimum silver particle size and the amount of impurity in any given solution. I also presume that a larger electrode surface area would produce any given ppm concentration faster than a smaller one. eg a 1cm strip of silver would be faster than a 12 guage wire. Is this correct? And if so how can we calculate the difference? Does the conductivity of the solution change as the ppm goes up? I ask this because Bob Lee mentioned in one of his posts that his current starts low and slowly rises as it goes along. Sorry to barge in with so many questions without so much as an intro from me :) But you guys have convinced me CS is worth a go and I'll be building a generator as soon as I clear up the above. Best regards ... Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Voltage Current.
I am unable to access the Thomas Millar article cited here. It must have been removed from the Infocom server. Does anyone have a copy I can borrow?? Dean -Original Message- From: Frank Matzka [mailto:fmat...@senet.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Voltage Current. I know there was a couple of articles recently about how much silver is in a CS solution based on calculations relating to current in the production process. These articles referred to current but not voltage. Can we assume that voltage is not relevant in any way to the production. (sorry for my electrical ignorance). I ask this because I've seen various devices described running from 1 X 9 volt battery, 3 X 9volt batteries, plug packs supplying 30 volts etc. The Thomas Millar article (http://www.infocom/~thomil/silver.htm) suggests that the particles are produced by mechanical action, the current knocking off small particles of silver as it passes through the solution. If so then presumably the higher the current the bigger the particles. And this is where the colour comes into it (apparently). Another article states that the smaller the particles the lighter the colour. Clear for best/smallest, light yellow for acceptable, then onto to brown, green and gray for much bigger particles. However. Thomas Millar says that the longer you take to produce a solution, the more likely you are to form chemical compounds with any of the impurities or salts in the solution. As I understand it pure distilled water is not conductive and at least a tiny amount of sodium chloride is required to allow current to pass thru it. So there will always be at least some silver chloride in with the colloidal. Apparently most silver compounds are described as being a pale yellow colour so I suppose it's hard to destinguish between optimum silver particle size and the amount of impurity in any given solution. I also presume that a larger electrode surface area would produce any given ppm concentration faster than a smaller one. eg a 1cm strip of silver would be faster than a 12 guage wire. Is this correct? And if so how can we calculate the difference? Does the conductivity of the solution change as the ppm goes up? I ask this because Bob Lee mentioned in one of his posts that his current starts low and slowly rises as it goes along. Sorry to barge in with so many questions without so much as an intro from me :) But you guys have convinced me CS is worth a go and I'll be building a generator as soon as I clear up the above. Best regards ... Frank -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Personal Experience
of the Prof's here in Texas AM University to critique my work, and some of my lab friends to run mass/Spec tests. We'll see. Meantime I'm kinda busy working with the public schools, as you can see from my web site. I'm far from retired, and may never! Mike: Keep up the good work! You're very effective. Hope to meet you someday. Regards to all, Dean Woodward Lt Col, US Army Signal Corps (Ret) AM Class of '61 Please see our page at http://www.educelec.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: Web page prototype...
I am a new member of the list. I don't have Lyme (thanks be to God!), but my wife sure does, and I am doing everything in my power to help her. I'm in the listening mode at the moment, and certainly want to know a lot more about CS. The only suggestion I would make is that your web page include citations and links to any formal research into use of CS for any disease, including Lyme. If this stuff is as good as it appears, then the world is going to find it out. We all know the old saw If it sounds to good to be true, it probably ain't grin. However, something in my personal experience makes me sit up and take notice when metals and health get involved. Briefly, when I was a kid back on the farm my father and I were having terrible boils - I mean really big, bad ones, and lots of them. A local country doc suggested that we take tin tablets. We did, and the boils immediately went away never to return during my father's lifetime, and so far during mine (I am 73). Coincidence? I think not! Dean Woodward -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Sunday, March 08, 1998 12:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Web page prototype... I've published the rough framework of a web site for the silver list. For the time being the URL is as follows: http://www.eskimo.com/~mdevour/silver-list I have a number of technical questions on web development and I'm sure some of you would like to contribute links and information to the content. I welcome any level of collaboration. I don't want to clutter the list up with technical chatter, though. So if you'd like to work with me on finishing the web site, please let me know. I'll put together a distribution list so we can chat off list about the details. On-list, I'd like to hear any comments and suggestions you all have for content, style, accessability, and organization. There is no real content yet. I'd like that to change! I need your help. Thank you! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net application/ms-tnef
