Re: CS>CS and and rotting teeth

[MARIANO DELISE]

If you microvave it for a few seconds, it should take out the cold.  Just do 
not let it boit.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melody D Harris 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS and and rotting teeth


  i need this, but i can't tolerate anything 
  cold on my 'holy' teeth.  how can i warm 
  the CS without destroying it? i would 
  love to try this. and for how long should 
  i continue using CS as a mouth wash?

  thanks in advance,
  xoxoxoxoxo
  melody harris
  So Calif.

  > 
  > Two dentists have now made exclamations about how a previously 
  > rotting hole 
  > in a tooth is suddenly clean bone with the bacterial colony ..quite 
  > gone. 
  > One such hole was deemed clean enough to fill without drilling.
  >   That person had started using CS as a mouthwash between visits and 
  > blew 
  > the docs mind on his return for the drill and fill routine.
  >   My experience has been the same with 4 year old "watch spots" 
  > doing 
  > nothing at all.
  > 
  > Ken
  > 
  > 
  > At 03:07 PM 4/28/2003 -0400, you wrote:
  > >I cut my thumb yesterday right along with the onions I was 
  > preparing for 
  > >my shrimp gumbo supper... knicked it pretty good too...enough to 
  > draw 
  > >several large drops of blood...and I had to apply pressure to stop 
  > the 
  > >bleeding.
  > >
  > >I went straight for a Band-Aid and pulled out the 
  > antibacterial/pain 
  > >ointment I always use and thought "Why not wash it and then douse 
  > my cut 
  > >with a little CS."
  > >
  > >I must admit the pain relief promised by the ointment was tempting, 
  > but I 
  > >decided I'd not know if the CS really worked if I added it...except 
  > big 
  > >chicken that I am  I decided that if it still stung before 
  > bedtime I'd 
  > >add the pain relief
  > >
  > >So I washed my hands, poured on a splash of CS, did not dry my cut, 
  > added 
  > >a Band-Aid then finished preparing dinner.
  > >
  > >I forgot all about my wound. I never felt any pain after the 
  > initial shock 
  > >of the knife to my flesh.
  > >
  > >It's been 18 hrs and not once have I felt pain...usually I'd have 
  > to 
  > >reapply the ointment several times by now and it never really 
  > eliminated 
  > >the stinging...
  > >
  > >I can apply pressure to my wound...which involved a fairly nice 
  > chunk of 
  > >cut skin right next to my thumbnail... and still I do not feel a 
  > >thing...the cut is well on its way to healing nicely...Something 
  > that 
  > >would have taken at least a couple of days using the ointment.
  > >
  > >CS is amazing stuff...no wonder the FDA and drug companies want it 
  > 
  > >discredited...I'm putting little spray bottles all over my house, 
  > in my 
  > >car, in my purse, I'm giving them to all my friends...and my 
  > family.
  > >
  > >Keep the faith folks and spread the word! If a religion must be 
  > formed to 
  > >circumvent the government, so be it! I'm all for nonprofit 
  > research!
  > >
  > >CS kills the germs and this allows your body to heal itself 
  > naturally! 
  > >WOW!~~~sounds like a bumper sticker to me!
  > >
  > >And I really liked the suggestion of treating the caregivers and 
  > anyone 
  > >exposed to SARS with CS...or any other infectious disease for that 
  > matter...
  > >
  > >That would go a long way to preventing the spread of infection. 
  > Great 
  > >idea...I'll never leave the house without mine...
  > >
  > >And girlfriends...instead of using those dumb toilet seat covers in 
  > public 
  > >restrooms...just spray your seat with a little CS before you sit 
  > and douse 
  > >your hands after you wash them!
  > >
  > >Kill germs the natural way and save a few trees in the process!
  > >Kathie
  > 
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Re: CS>question on cs vs. ionic silver

[MARIANO DELISE]

Most likiely there will never be an oifficial study that yoi u want.,,,BUT 
.I drink CS made with CS Prosystems ;HVAC.  It is ;about 10 PPM, It is 
slightly amber, and it keiiles the mycoplasma causing my MS.  Is it Ionic?  Is 
it not ionic?  I really don't care.  I have made this CS for several MS 
patients, two lupus, two crones, 2 fibromyalgia, and  many  more.  None of us 
care what it is!!   It has improved our lives immeasurabley.  If you want 
some of us to be in some study, let me know, otherwise, let us bask in  our 
wellness...
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: ascottsil...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:55 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>question on cs vs. ionic silver


  Berger,

  How do you know that ionic silver is superior? I know that there are people 
on this list that claim that both of them work. But until someone does some 
real clinical studies (not just petrii dish stuff - bleach works real good in a 
petrii dish) then your opinion is just that -- your opinion, and nothing more.

  Perhaps I missed something. Do you have something in your history books that 
proves that ionic silver works better than particulate silver? We're talking 
about health, not just killing mold or bacteria in a petrii dish and 
testimonial BS doesn't count.

  Kindest regards,
  Andy Scott (^_^)

  From: Robert Berger  

  Scott,

  Sorry to disagree with you but you are full of good oldfashio B.S.

  I don't sell a thing and I know that ionic silver is superior. Go back
  in you history books and get educated.

  "Ole Bob" :-(

Re: CS>question on cs vs. ionic silver

[MARIANO DELISE]

I saw it with  my own two eyes: !. Had a stock boy rip his finger on a box
staple.  Had it been over a week without saying a word.  When I finally saw
it, he said he had been cleaning it nightly with H2o2.  It was very infested
& not getting any better.  I gave him a small cup w/ CS.  He put his finger
in it every 15 minutes.  Two days later he did not have even a scare.  You
could not tell where the wound was..
2.  Another stock boy helping a friend move got all eight fingers cut
when a drawer closed on them.  You could see all the way to the bone.  This
stock boy is Hispanic.  I mention this only so you ;under stand his skin
color.  ;Same routine.  Soaked for three or four days.  Now, NO SCARE..
3.  Had a friend cut up off the tip of his thumb.  They took hi  to the
hospital abd sewed the tip back on 21 ;stiched.  I did not know about this
for about four days.  When I finallly heard about it, he bagan soaking the
tip of his thumb in CS.  now, two monhes later you cannot even see a scare
;where the stiches were, and his fingertip is perfectly pink.  Again this is
with a;mber 10ppm made with CS Prosystems ;HVAC!!
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "C Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: CS>question on cs vs. ionic silver


> Dear Marshall,
>
>
>   You said:
>
> < allowing improved healing, and lack of scarring>>
>
>
> **  This part about injured cells reverting to stem cells is quite
> interesting to me.  Can you provide any articles, citations, etc. about
> this?
>
>   Thanks :-)
>
> Regards,
> Catherine
>
>
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Re: CS>CS, Crohns, Lupus

[MARIANO DELISE]

  - Original Message - 
  From: S K 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:01 PM
  Subject: CS>CS, Crohns, Lupus


  Nancy, Is it possible to email you off-list to discuss treating lupus and 
crohns with CS.  My Mom has skin (discoid) lupus, and my sister is a long-time 
sufferer of crohns (and a slave to prednisone and now Remicade).  I am the 
wacky sister with the "abnormal" ideas about medicine.  They all shake their 
heads and wonder what I'll come up with next.  I finally think they might just 
be starting to listen, and then they see the gray lady or blue politician on 
TV, and that's that.  It would be interesting for my sister to hear from 
someone with success against Crohns.

  Thanks,

  Nia

  --Original Message 
  >From: "MARIANO DELISE" 

  >.I have made this CS for several MS patients, two lupus, two crones, 2 
fibromyalgia, and many more. 


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Re: CS>CS, Crohns, Lupus

[MARIANO DELISE]

My email address is nancym...@prodigy.net  
  - Original Message - 
  From: S K 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:01 PM
  Subject: CS>CS, Crohns, Lupus


  Nancy, Is it possible to email you off-list to discuss treating lupus and 
crohns with CS.  My Mom has skin (discoid) lupus, and my sister is a long-time 
sufferer of crohns (and a slave to prednisone and now Remicade).  I am the 
wacky sister with the "abnormal" ideas about medicine.  They all shake their 
heads and wonder what I'll come up with next.  I finally think they might just 
be starting to listen, and then they see the gray lady or blue politician on 
TV, and that's that.  It would be interesting for my sister to hear from 
someone with success against Crohns.

  Thanks,

  Nia

  --Original Message 
  >From: "MARIANO DELISE" 

  >.I have made this CS for several MS patients, two lupus, two crones, 2 
fibromyalgia, and many more. 


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CS>Gulf war syndrome

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi friends,
I have two friends with Gulf War Syndrome,  Neither can hold a job.  I looked 
in the archives and found nothing at all.  Has anyone had experience with Gulf 
war & CS?
Thanks ahead,
Nancy

Re: CS>OT, diabetes and MS

[MARIANO DELISE]

Marshalee,
I've been trying to find your email address so I could send you  some 
information off list.  You may have seen some of my messages about my MS.  The 
CS has definately changed my life, and improved it 80%.   
Nancy DeLise  nancym...@prodigy.net
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT, diabetes and MS


  Dear List, I`m finding out about diabetes and possible MS right now.
  Anyone out there have any words of knowledge for me??
  Love,
  Marshalee
  PS, My GTT numbers were 90 FBS and 160  2 hours after the nasty sweet stuff...
  I`ll be having more blood work and possibly an MRI soon.
  Yuck
  I`d rather have stage 4 liver cancer than MS, much quicker...

Re: CS>ms

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have a friend with MS who used a zapper, and she believs it set her back
about a year.  We don't know why, but on CS alone she kept improving, and
when she began with the zapper, her walking regressed.
Nancy DeLIse
- Original Message -
From: "Shirley Reed" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:09 AM
Subject: CS>ms


> Is there any good reason not to try a zapper?  I
> don't have ms, but my zapper has sure done me a lot of
> good for I don't know what all.  I am using a Don
> Croft model.   pj
>
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Re: CS>OT, welbutrin

[MARIANO DELISE]

I'm not sure I wold take any prescription drug from a doctor these days.  Have 
you tried colloidal gold for depression?
With these possible diagnosis you have, who wouldn't be depressed?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshalee Hallett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT, welbutrin


  Another thing, dear Listers, my doc gave me some samples of Welbutrin to try 
for the depression I`m having recently. Anyone have any knowledge or 
experience, good or bad with this stuff??
  I hesitate to take stuff like that...
  Marshalee

Re: CS>OT, diabetes and MS

[MARIANO DELISE]

I think this makes the most sense to me
Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Darrin" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>OT, diabetes and MS


> 
> Marsha:
> It sounds to me like your lyme disease has flared up as the symptoms are 
> the same.
> I've had lyme for forty some years and assure you that you never kill it 
> completely. It hides in dryer tissues such as the lymph system and 
> flares up with a trauma or some other unknown reason.
> My lyme was cured so I thought, for the last two years. A month and a 
> half ago I bumped my knee against some concrete. Not hard enough to 
> cause a bruise, only made it a little sore. I went ahead and had my 
> seven mile bicycle ride for the day. Later that day my knee started to 
> swell to about triple normal size.
> When that happens that quick it explodes the tissues from inside and 
> makes it take a long time to heal completely. I started taking six 
> ounces of CS every half hour, in two days the swelling was starting to 
> go down. I kept on the dosage for another day and at the end of the 
> first week the swelling was gone, but it took another six weeks to 
> return to 100 percent.
> Always in the past when one knee went ballistic the other would follow 
> before the first one quit.
> You had lyme disease so you still have lyme disease, CS can only kill 
> what is in the blood stream and when it hides elsewhere it can launch an 
> attack at any time. The constant use of CS will usually keep it at bay 
> but you have to be ready to launch the big guns ( frequent dosage ) to 
> drive it back when an attack happens.
> Dave
>   This is the second time to try to send this,I wish I could figure out 
> how to operate a computer :)
> 
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Re: CS>? on dosage & approach

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi CArl,
It's great that you have found CS, but don't be too upset when your friends 
will not try CS no matter how hard you try.  It is very frustrating when you 
know it will help them, but they won't listen.  You can only try.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Carl George 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:12 AM
  Subject: CS>? on dosage & approach


  I am relatively new to the silverlist. Here is my situation. I am 60 years 
old. For the past 40 years, I have been trying to get rid of the Candida yeast 
infection. I have tried nystatin, diflucin, etc. -- all to no avail. About 4 
weeks ago, I learned that colloidal silver might fight the candida. I went to 
my local health food store and the owner ( whom I had gone to school with), 
recommended that I take the CS made by Natural Path/Silver Wings (250 ppm). 
That night, I took 1 teaspoon in 8 oz of distilled water. The next morning, I 
took another teaspoon the same way. 

  That day, for the first time since I can remember, I had lots of energy. That 
was the only thing that I did different that day, so it had to be the CS that 
had did it . I had been fighting this thing for 40 years, and here, overnight I 
could tell that CS could fight it. 

  So I've become rather fanatic about CS. I went on the internet to learn all I 
could about CS. I bought a bunch of books on CS. I bought what appeared to me 
to be a good CS generator (constant current, stirrer, automatic turn-off) from 
Coyote Zenterprises. I am well pleased with it (although if my friends start 
consuming it like I am, then I will have to go to a larger model that produces 
more than 8 oz. every hour). I am so carried away with the effect of CS that I 
am trying to get all of my friends on it.

  My first question is: How do you approach a friend, and get them to give CS 
an honest try? I first of all tell them my experience. Then I emphasise that it 
is natural --that you cannot overdose on it. It is non-toxic. There has never 
been any toxic effect of CS (other than agrygia-- which as I understand was due 
to silver compounds -- such as silver nitrate-- and no to electro-colloidal 
CS). 

  I feel that it is important that they be able to feel a change after taking 
CS --so they will become convinced that CS is doing good for them. If they take 
a small amount (because they are afraid it will hurt them), I am afraid it will 
be too little to feel an effect. So when I give them CS, I tell them to take it 
in the same dose that I am taking--which I understand is more than most people 
take. 

  So my first question is: do you think the dosage that I am taking (8 oz. of 
about 20 ppm in the morning; 8 oz of 20 ppm in the evening ) is too much?

  Do you think I am using the right approach to get my friends to try it 
(better to take too much than to take too little)?

  Although I have only posted to the silverlist twice, I do think it is one of 
the best things I have ever found on the internet. It is people with knowledge 
and experience helping people without knowledge and experience. So my 
appreciation to all of you in advance. 



  Thanks,

  Carl George

  cgeo...@fullnet.net






  Carl

Re: CS>Amazing new microscope (article, UC Berkeley).

[MARIANO DELISE]

This all sounds wonderful, but I don't believe the powers that be will allow
a cure for any of these money making illinesses.  The Pharms will not allow
it!!
- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: CS>Amazing new microscope (article, UC Berkeley).


>
>
> Berkeley
> Microsized microscopes: UC Berkeley researchers develop microlens and
> scanner that can provide views inside living cells
> 13 March 2002
>
> By Sarah Yang, Media Relations
>
> Berkeley - Imagine a future where doctors can view the DNA of tumor cells
> inside a patient as cancer drugs are delivered, or where anti-terrorism
> units can identify single molecules of a biowarfare agent on site with a
> portable detector. With a significant development in miniaturized
> microscopes at the University of California, Berkeley, scientists are
> inching closer to such possibilities.
>
>Luke Lee
> Assistant Professor Luke Lee is developing a micro-lens smaller than the
> period at the end of this sentence. Peg Skorpinski photo
>
>   micro-CIA
> Shown is an image of a scanner of the micro confocal imaging array, or
> micro-CIA, taken by a scanning electron microscope. The photopolymer
> microlens in the center of the scanner is shaped by surface tension, not
by
> etching, and is therefore extremely smooth. Comb-drives on opposing sides
> of the scanner power the side-to-side movements using electrostatic
forces.
> The "fingers" of the comb-drives are spaced 2-5 microns apart.
>
>micro confocal imaging array
> As seen in this schematic of a micro confocal imaging array, the staging
> platform that holds the sample is on the bottom. Three scanners stacked
> vertically above the platform scan each of the three axes (X, Y and Z) for
> three-dimensional images. The fluorescent signal detector sits above the
> scanners.
>
>
> Luke P. Lee, assistant professor of bioengineering at UC Berkeley, and his
> doctoral student Sunghoon Kwon have captured an image of a plant cell with
> a microlens smaller than the period at the end of this sentence.
>
> "It's shrinking a million dollar machine down to a size that can balance
on
> the tip of a ballpoint pen," said Lee, who presented the results at a
> recent International Conference on Micro Electro Mechanical Systems. "The
> microlens and scanner we've made is a crucial part of a microscope that is
> 500 to 1,000 times smaller than anything in its class."
>
> In testing the accuracy of the microlens and scanner, Kwon placed a cell
> sample taken from a flowering lily, Convallaria majalis, onto the platform
> of a conventional confocal microscope. Without moving the sample, they
> captured a cross-sectional image of the cell wall, first with the
> traditional microscope, then with the microlens scanner. They found that
> the two images matched, showing for the first time that his microscopic
> lens could perform as well as a conventional one.
>
> "Honestly, we were shocked," said Lee, who also is co-director of the
> Berkeley Sensor & Actuator Center. "What we've finally shown is a proof of
> concept. We have tested only 2-D images now, but it's just a matter of
time
> and manpower before we get the first 3-D image."
>
> The microlens and scanner are part of a device Lee is developing called
the
> micro confocal imaging array, or micro-CIA. The micro-CIA belongs to a
> group of devices known as Bio-Polymer-Opto-Electro-Mechanical-Systems, or
> BioPOEMS. Invented by Lee, BioPOEMS marry the world of optics to that of
> microelectromechanical systems, or MEMS, for use in biological
applications.
>
> The size and sensitivity of the micro-CIA would allow technicians to
> quickly test even trace amounts of anthrax or smallpox in the field. It
> could become a crucial part of a "lab-on-a-chip," where researchers can
> study genes and proteins in ways unimagined decades ago. Lee is
> particularly excited by the potential for advancements in medicine
possible
> with a miniaturized microscope.
>
> "You could put this device on the tip of an endoscope that could be guided
> inside a cancer patient," said Lee. "Doctors could then see how tumor
cells
> behave in vivo. It would also be feasible to deliver drugs directly to the
> tumor cell, and then view how the cell responds to the drugs."
>
> High-end confocal microscopes, which house several lasers, take up to a
> meter of desk space, can cost more than $1 million and typically require
> highly-trained operators to run them, said Lee. The high cost of owning
and
> running confocal microscopes limits the amount of research that can be
done
> with them, he said.
>
> "My goal is to not only shrink the size of these microscopes, but to make
> them as easy and as cheap to use as a digital camera," said Lee. It is
with
> a hint of populist sentiment that Lee began devising a teeny version of
the
> confocal microscope, the micro-CIA. He envisions a future where confocal
> microscopy is as co

Re: CS>The phamaceuticals lack of trust

[MARIANO DELISE]

Thank you Marshall,
I'm so glad I found this list to get the real info.
Nancy DeLise
- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: CS>The phamaceuticals lack of trust


> Pharmaceutical company buries information on cancer cure because it is not
> patentable:
>
> http://www.agora-inc.com/reports/HSI/WHSIC308/
>
> Marshall
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal silver for Lupus

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have MS & my friend has Lupus, very simiular.We both drink 16 oz of CS 
about 8-10ppm (mixed w/ Gatorade) a small amount all day long.  It is a very 
slow process, but in about 6 weeks your friend should begin to feel better.  
Keep it up.  It may take 12 months to feel great, but it's better than feeling 
worse every day!!! 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bernard Demoiseau 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 5:37 PM
  Subject: CS>Colloidal silver for Lupus


  Dear friends,
  I have a friend in England who has been suffering from Lupus for one year. 
Somewhere I read that colloidal silver can be beneficial against this severe 
illness.
  Can somebody give me more details.
  Many thanks.
  B. Demoiseau

CS>CS &n IV

[MARIANO DELISE]

Dear Listers,
I wrote to a couple of you off line, but I thought I might get more info 
directly;  I have been trying to get as much information on using CS in an IV 
drip.  Have you done it, or know of someone?  How did it work?  What is the 
protical?  What are the pitfalls?  
Thank you all 
Nancy

CS>CS & IV

[MARIANO DELISE]

Dear Listers,
I wrote to a couple of you off list, but I wonder if any one on the list has 
had any experience using CS in an IV drip?  I would like any feedback yu might 
have to offer.Thanks for your help.
Nancy

Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools

[MARIANO DELISE]

In the US there is a product called Nature's Two.   It contains silve and is
used with the filter.  In Chicago you can get it at any Pool Store.  I know
you can buy it at Pool-A-Rama in the Chicago area they have about 15 stores.
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools


> On 3/14, Marshall wrote:
> >...Since I am very sensitive to chlorine, I have been researching
> alternative methods of maintaining the pool...>
>
> Looks like there are additional reasons to beware the pool:
>
> Wed Apr 3,  2002
> LONDON (Reuters)
> "...Researchers at Imperial College London said they found levels of
> trihalomethanes (THMs), a
> by-product of chlorine, in London swimming pools that were higher than
> amounts found in tap
> water which had been associated with health problems...THMs are formed
> when chlorine, which is added to swimming pools to keep them clean,
> reacts with organic matter such as skin or hair..."
>
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020404/sc_nm/science_poo
ls_dc_1&printer=1
>
> and from the CS Archives, Philip Wylie:
>
> "...In Holland they only use Ozone plants to purify their drinking water
>
> where  as in Canada and most of the USA they use chorine and ammonia for
>
> water purification. A University of Alberta Zoology professor apprised
> me
> that the  mixing of the two (chlorine and ammonia)  results in an
> compound
> that is  dangerously  carcinogenic. The reason they add the ammonia is
> to
> extend the  life and effectiveness of the chlorine...Now when they
> add  Fluoride, which is a  close  cousin to Prozac,  you have quite the
> cocktail..."
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m45250.html
>
> jr
>
>
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Re: CS> CS as nose drops

[MARIANO DELISE]

You can get a small spray bottle at your local pharmace that contains
saline and water.  Empty the container and fill it about 1/2 full with
CS(8-10ppm).  Spray it in each nostril every two hours.  At the same time
allow a drop to fall in each ear canal and let it remain about a minute in
each ear.  The cold will be gone in 24 -48 hrs, and it will never get too
bad.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Printer Man" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: CS> CS as nose drops


>
> Does anyone use CS as nose drops to help fight colds?
> If so, what kind of schedule or procedure seems to
> work best?  Any concerns such as those listed in the
> recent thread on IV CS?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>effect of cold on CS

[MARIANO DELISE]

There is an experiment going on right now concerning Gatorade and CS.  Some of 
our more learned members say the electrolytes in the Gatorade help get the CS 
moving through the body quicker.  I have mike mixing it 50/50 for several 
months.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Nolan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 8:35 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>effect of cold on CS


  Hi Carl,
  I certainly wouldn't be putting CS into any kind of juice, owing 
to the substantial chloride content likely. You would then be precipitating out 
the ionic silver portion (probably around 75-95% of the total) as ineffective 
AgCl. Taking CS straight and away from other foods makes more sense. Not sure 
about the effect of being chilled, but I avoid chilled fluids in general, 
except for a cold beer on a hot day.

  Kevin Nolan
- Original Message - 
From: Carl George 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: CS>effect of cold on CS


Hi, Listers,

As usual, thanking you all in advance ( because I always forget to e-mail 
you off list to thank you);

my question this time is:  does cold temperature reduce the effectiveness 
of CS?  The reason I ask is because one of my friends puts ice cubes in his CS. 
Does this reduce the effectiveness of CS?

Another question:  I put CS in my vegetable juice (freshly squeezed, but 
then frozen, and when ready to drink, thawed, and refrigerated. So, in effect, 
CS put into cold vegetable juice. Would this reduce the effectiveness of CS?  

Would it be best if I and my friends just took the CS straight and on an 
empty stomach?

Thanking you all in advance. 


Carl George

CS>Unidentified subject!

[MARIANO DELISE]

Fellow Listers,
I am aware of using CS in a nebuliser with great success.  I don't know what a 
Bioccular Transcerebral Iontophoresis  is??? But, I have a friend who uses one, 
and he wants to know if he can use CS in it?  He has ALS.
Thanks, Nancy DeLise

CS>CS & ALS

[MARIANO DELISE]

Dear  Listers,
I have a friend with ALS.  I am confident CS can help him somehow, it is a 
mycoplasma, but  how
He uses a BiPapp.  I don't know what that is, but does anyone know if CS 
can be used with this???
Thanks, Nancy

Re: CS>Copper Arthritis Treatment

[MARIANO DELISE]

Rheumatoid Arthritis is caused by mycoplasma.   CS will kill
mycoplasmaYou can use CS.
- Original Message -
From: "Robb Allen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:09 AM
Subject: CS>Copper Arthritis Treatment


> Hi Everyone.This is slightly off topic..but I don't have anywhere
> else to ask this question..I found the following article on the
> web..talking about the use of copper for treating Rheumatoid
> Arthritis...My question is, does anyone understand exactly what form
of
> copper they used??.or what the dosage was??My other
question
> is..what is a source of pure copper to use as electrodes??...I
> hope someone understands this article better than
Ithanks...Robb
>
>
> The Treatment Program
>
> The following protocol is utilized in treating patients with active
> rheumatoid disease:
>
> When the patient has signed an informed consent to a new type of food
> supplement to correct a probable essential trace mineral deficiency, a
test
> amount of the ionic copper granules can be given in the office. This may
be
> as few as 5 [granules or micrograms?] or as many as 20, although 15 is the
> average amount for a 150 pound adult male.
>
> As one becomes familiar with the treatment, a "feeling" of the proper
amount
> for each patient will develop. In a short time, clinical judgment will
> determine the initial dose and the amount to be increased each day,
usually
> divided into three equal doses, taken on the tongue and washed down with a
> half glass or more of water.
>
> The first treatment program will take about six weeks and the patient
should
> have a favorable response, which may be from moderate relief and
improvement
> of signs and symptoms to a complete or permanent remission.
>
> In addition to the copper granules, patients may take their customary
> medicine for arthritis discomfort, and a biologically active nutritional
> supplement is also used.4
>
> As with all antibiotic therapy, the substance used is usually given to
> achieve a specific blood level. For the use of copper as a nutritional
> supplement and to build up the natural resistance of the body to the
> infective agent, no definite blood levels have been determined. They may
be
> different for different patients. Clinical observations along with the
> specific blood levels for the particular patient will act as a guide
should
> it seem desirable to repeat the program.
>
> When the therapeutic level of copper in the blood is reached, then the
> susceptible microorganisms, whose presence is the probable cause of the
> disease, are killed by the chemical activity of copper ions. This is an
all-
> encompassing phenomenon, and it affects the entire population of
> microorganisms in question. But the killing of the susceptible
> microorganisms may, and usually does, result in the production of a
> Herxheimer reaction. (The patient may feel that the arthritis is getting
> worse, or that a flare-up or aggravation of the disease is occurring. It
> should be explained to the patient that this is an "expected reaction"
> probably caused by release of toxic substances from the killed pathogenic
> organisms, or the amoebae in rheumatoid arthritis, and not by live
> microorganisms of any exacerbation of the disease.)5
>
> The extent of the Herxheimer reaction is directly related to the number of
> the microorganisms being destroyed, the area of the body that has been
> affected by the rheumatoid disease, the rate of release of toxins from the
> dead microorganisms and the patient's own resistance or sensitivity to
> foreign proteins.
>
> Rarely, some patients experience a severe reaction appear "really sick."
But
> the whole secret of success with this treatment with copper granules is to
> get the patients past the Herxheimer reaction with a minimum of discomfort
> and apprehension about the apparent flare-up of the disease.
>
> This is usually best accomplished by getting past the stage of the
reaction
> as quickly as possible, as opposed to stringing out the process and
> prolonging the agony.
>
> Start the patient on whatever level that it appears can be comfortably
> handled. For example: Prescribe an initial dose of 10 granules. This is to
> be taken three times a day the first day. Then increase the total dose by
5
> granules each day, observing the reactions and tolerance. If this does not
> provoke a reaction, then increase the daily total by 10 granules per day
> until the patient is taking 75 to 80 granules per day. This level is
> maintained for 10 to 14 days. Then, the maximum dose is achieved by going
to
> 90 granules a day. Then the Herxheimer reaction should be safely passed,
> permitting the patient to take 90 granules 2 times a day for two weeks,
then
> the lesser dose of 100 granules once a day for two weeks. Then the copper
> medication is stopped and the clinical and laboratory evaluations repeated
> to judge the state or progress and recovery of the patient

Re: CS>Milk

[MARIANO DELISE]

MilkYes to both questions.  My silver rods from making my CS, that is no longer 
usable, I keep one in my milk.  It lasts much longer.  I also soak a thin cloth 
in CS & wrap cheese in it.  Put it in a plastic wrap..No mold.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Nicola Kay 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:50 PM
  Subject: CS>Milk


  Could anyone tell me if I put CS in my milk or cereal cream, would it keep it 
from
  going sour?  Also, does it keep vegies fresh longer if they are rinsed or 
soaked in CS? 

Re: CS>Altman article

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have been drinking 16oz CS 10ppm everyday for 1 1/2 years and NO silver in
my skin  -  not a trace,  only much better health!
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: CS>Altman article


The following quotations have been attributed to Roger
Altman, which I found too hard to ignore.

"I estimate that no more than 16 ounces of colloidal
silver, or silver chloride, at a concentration of 5
ppm should be ingested within 24 hours, or 64 ounces
within 10 days. In addition, the ingestion of
colloidal silver and/or silver chloride should be
stopped for at least 5 days following any period of
heavy consumption to lower the risk of argyria."

He estimates this, based on what? He appears to be
operating on the assumption that any kind of silver,
if taken in enough quantity, will cause argyria. In
spite of numerous reports of people ingesting far
greater quantities of CS than he is cautioning about
(up to 1-gallon per day of 10 ppm for years), he is
cautioning at such a conservative level as to be
ridiculous.

"Selenium binds with heavy metals, including silver."

Any references to substantiate this?

"As the body eliminates these metals, it eliminates
selenium along with them."

References, please. Opinion has very little weight
without substantiation.

"It's logical to assume that anyone who is ingesting
colloidal silver or silver chloride on an ongoing
basis is slowly but surely eliminating selenium."

I find his "logic" flawed. Every day our bodies
eliminate various minerals/metals. When someone begins
to drink adequate amounts of water, they eliminate
more metals/minerals/toxins/fat cells, etc. Should we
assume that, "anyone who is ingesting water on an
ongoing basis is slowly but surely eliminating
selenium." (or calcium, or potassium, etc.) He appears
to be assuming that, because people with low levels of
selenium MAY have a slightly greater chance of
experiencing argyria, that means the reverse, that
ingestion of silver increases a deficiency of
selenium. Lot of speculation here.

"While many believe it is impossible to contract
argyria by ingesting colloidal silver, the facts
indicate this may not be an absolute truth."

What facts? All the facts I have ever seen establish
very strongly this to be a truth.

"Imagine that a man drinks one gallon of 10 ppm
colloidal silver every day for a year."

Like Bob Beck does.

"Some of that silver will bind with selenium."

No substantiation for this idea. The "Silver binds
with (whatever)" idea does not stand up in the face of
Mr. Altman's own report on the body's propensity to
retain silver, which concluded that there was
virtually no silver accumulation whatsoever.

"At first, it may appear that everything is going
fine, but once selenium levels have dropped low
enough, perhaps in three or four months, a small
percentage of silver will be sent to the face for
storage. As more selenium is depleted, a larger
percentage of silver will be routed to the face. (In
the most extreme case noted in one EPA study, eighteen
percent of all silver ingested by an argyric
individual was routed to the face.)"

A study noting the ingestion of WHAT KIND of silver?
Of HOW MUCH silver? I am unaware of ANY "official"
studies of the effects of electro-colloidal silver,
not silver compounds. And now Mr. Altman appears to be
doing the same thing: using the consequences of toxic
silver COMPOUNDS as a basis for cautioning about
silver COLLOIDS.

"The end result is that within a year the condition of
argyria could be quite pronounced as a result of
ingesting large amounts of colloidal silver."

This statement sounds so much like an FDA/EPA
gloss-over (attributing to colloidal silver what can
only be experienced with LARGE amount of silver
compounds) that I am unable to reasonably attribute
this statement to Roger Altman. Did this actually come
from him? If it did, I defy Mr. Altman to support or
substantiate that statement. It is erroneous and
irresponsible. Did you recently get some kind of
pharmaceutical grant to study CS, Mr. Altman? Please
tell us you are being misquoted, or that you didn't
even say this!

"I once asked myself this question: What is the one
thing that could happen regarding colloidal silver
that would change everything if it happened? While I
think it is critical that all people learn how to make
silver colloids, I still worry about the possibility
of negative experiences."

What has caused this worry? Reviewing reports on
argyria caused by large amounts of silver compounds?
The medical literature contains NO reports of ANY
problems of ANY kind ingesting ANY amount of ANY ppm
pure, electro-colloidal silver. Even the conservative
estimates of the amount of silver which must be
ingested to eventuate in argyria are based on the
assumption that 100% of the silver ingested is
retained in the body, which assumption is absurd, even
without Mr. Altman's report showing virtually NO
silver accumulation.

"For example

Re: CS>colloidal copper

[MARIANO DELISE]

Marlene,
If  you have MS, I hope you are using enough CS.  I also have (almost had)
MS.  I drink 16 oz CS everyday.  I drink  it a little all day long. I have
recently started mixing  6 drops 3% H2o2 with the CS, and wait about 15 min
before I begin to drink it.  It seems to get to the cause of the MS
(mycoplasyma) quicker.  It may take awhile, but it definatley is worth
it!
- Original Message -
From: "Marlene Hanson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: CS>colloidal copper


Hi Carl, I would be cautious in using copper.  Very little can disrupt the
balance for me.  I have tried copper braclets which increased spasticity I
have MS.  I have tried copper powder and it gave headaches.  Copper is
necessary but in very small amounts.  the powder was too much at 1/16 th
inch on the tip of a knife. I am not a fear filled person but thought I
would let you know my experience. Please Be Careful Marlene


>From: "Carl George" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>Subject: CS>colloidal copper
>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:07:54 -0500
>
>Hi, List
>
>Another question about Colloidal Copper. Yesterday, I tried to make my firs
>batch, using the same equipment that I use to make CS ( one gallon crock
>pot that keeps the temperature about 140 degrees; AC-DC converter which
>delivers 24 volts, 525 mA). Of course, I used copper wire and copper
>bracelets (to increase the surface area of copper) in the distilled water
>(0.2 on the Hanna meter).
>
>Now, when I use this apparatus to make CS, I can make a gallon of CS in
>about 3-4 hours, which agglomerates to about 10-15 ppm. I assumed that the
>CC would be similar.
>
>But it wasn’t. I "cooked" the CC (colloidal copper) for 24 hours, after
>which it tested out at 3.6 ppm. And while it was not a dark black, it was
>not perfectly clear. The CS I have made is perfectly clear. This CC was
>not. It was darker. No taste to it. But it was darker than the CS.
>
>Of course, my question is: Is this normal ? To take 24 hours to make 3.4
>ppm? To have a dark opaqueness to it?
>
>If not, any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? All suggestions would be
>appreciated. Again, thanking all responses in advance.
>
>While I am on the net, I think someone had a question as to what colloidal
>copper was used for. Well, I haven’t used it yet, but in my readings it is
>used to clean the arteries and veins (good for arthritis, rheumatism, and
>vericose veins). That is why I am trying it. It is also said to be good for
>collagen production, protein metabolism, and as a brain/synapse stimulator.
>I got this information searching Google for colloidal copper.
>
>Carl George
>
>




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Re: CS>Favorites folder

[MARIANO DELISE]

I'm afraid I deleted this favorite file without downloading it.   Is it
possible to get it again
- Original Message -
From: "Terry Chamberlin" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 12:04 PM
Subject: CS>Favorites folder


> The "Favorites" Folder (not a file) is in the Windows
> directory. You can copy this Folder (it's a
> sub-directory full of files and Folders) to a floppy
> for safe-keeping. After formatting your hard drive and
> installing Windows, you simply copy the Favorites
> Folder into the Windows directory. It will already
> have such a favorites Folder there, so it will ask you
> if you want to replace it (the Folders directory). Say
> yes. When you click on the Favorites button in
> Iexplorer, all your bookmarks will be there.
>
> Before Windows 95, where you stored your files on your
> hard drive were called Directories and
> sub-Directories. Now they are called Folders and
> sub-directories (or sub-Folders?).
>
> So if you drag the Favorites Folder from where it is
> to drive A:, the entire Favorites Folder and all the
> files and Folders within it will copy enmasse to your
> floppy. (This is for those who are unfamiliar with how
> to do this.)
>
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>
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Re: CS>bottle for cs

[MARIANO DELISE]

Preheat your oven to about 100 degrees,  turn the oven off and put the empty
DW gallon bottles in the oven for  about five minutes.  The label will peel
right offNo solvents.
- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: CS>bottle for cs


> In article
<17c683ca7e39d511aca500047630810203754...@twm06.tacom.army.mil>,
> "Medwith, Robert"  wrote:
> >Arozona tea (herbal) comes in cobalt blue bottles
>
> Most of our CS is kept in a plastic DW jug in the kitchen, but we keep
> some in blue Arizona bottles in other parts of the house.
>
> >The only draw back you need a good solvent to take gum off once
> >the labels are pealed I happened to have some MEK (methyl Ethel keytone)
> >from the emron paint I use on my boat There are other solvents that work
>
> Funny you should mention that because just a couple days ago I bought
> some solvents because the label adhesive on the Arizona bottles was
> bothering me. First I tried a product called "Goof Off", and I suppose
> if I used enough of it long enough I might get the goo off, but mostly
> what it did was smear the goo all over the bottle. I then switched to
> acetone which stripped the adhesive right off the bottle in seconds.
>
> Warning: please use protective gloves when handling paper towels/rags
> soaked with solvent.
>
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>
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Re: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox

[MARIANO DELISE]

I agree,  My 75 year old neighbor had shingles over 7 years ago.  The pain
was still quite unbearable.He saw how well I was doing on CS and decided
to give it a try.  He is afraid to take too much so he drinks about 2 oz per
day. (I would be agressive with this problem and drink 16 oz throughout the
day). Even at this small amount, within about three months most of the pain
he had for all these years is gone.
- Original Message -
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox


> Based on my experience with Herpes Simplex, CS should help any related
viral
> infection.  It has been demonstrated to cure, repeat, cure Hep C.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: Maxine Wilton [mailto:mm...@sprynet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:56 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox
>
> Yes, from Shingles then Bels Paulsey then i got the chicken pox.  terrible
> horrrible pain etc.  Screaming pain.
>  I guess Zostrix is the name on some med Dr   told   me to rub on for pain
> but no go.
>
> Maxine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Missett 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Date: Thursday, May 09, 2002 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox
>
>
> >Do you mean "herpes zoster"?   This is the name commonly applied to the
> >shingles, which is a relative of Chicken Pox.
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Maxine Wilton" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox
> >
> >
> >> If you get exposed to  Chicken Pox and get Shingles and or chicken Pox
> >> that is called the Zostix Virus  or a form of herpes Virus but not the
> >kind
> >> that is the bad Herpes.
> >> . That virus attacks the  nerve  on one side of the body. If in the
face
> >is
> >> sometimes real bad.
> >>  I have found a herbalist who will be giving me some Herbs  mad into a
> tea
> >> that will KILL this virus.  If some one wants to talk to him Let me
know
> I
> >> will send the ph # to call him. He lives in Wa state close to where I
> >live.
> >> Maxine
> >> mm...@sprynet.com
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Noel White 
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> >> Date: Thursday, May 09, 2002 1:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: CS>BOB, CS>Chicken Pox
> >>
> >>
> >> What is Zostrix virus? I know of herpes Zooster.
> >>
> >> Noel
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

[MARIANO DELISE]

How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and the CS 
orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.  How 
about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxine Wilton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Hello Gary,
   Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??
My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.
   I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.
   What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?
   I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning it some 
,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding oneself 
of the unstopable Virus I beleive.
   I am also on CS  and won't give up yet. 
  Maxine 
  mm...@sprynet.com

Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hang in thereMy neighbor  only drank about 2 oz per day, but it took about 
4 months before he noticed anything.  It was very SLOW, and very GRADUAL, but 
it was definately worth the wait.He is 76 years old, and says he's feeling 
better than 15 years ago.  When he started on the CS he could not even put his 
wallet in his pocket without pain, and he could not sit on one side without 
comfort, also, he slept on one of those foam mattresses, but still could not 
sleep on one side.  Now he can do all of it.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxine Wilton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Mariano,
   How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S??
   Did they take anyhting else with it etc?  I been on it about 2months now and 
drinking abt   14 oz aday now.  I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I 
if I am, doing wrong? 
  Maxine 
-Original Message-
    From: MARIANO DELISE 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and the 
CS orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.  How 
about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maxine Wilton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM
  Subject: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


   Hello Gary,
   Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??
My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.
   I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.
   What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?
   I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning it 
some ,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding 
oneself of the unstopable Virus I beleive.
   I am also on CS  and won't give up yet. 
  Maxine 
  mm...@sprynet.com

Re: CS>psoriasis

[MARIANO DELISE]

My 19 year old friend had psoriasis so bad she was supposed to goto the Dr.
for shots (I think steroids).  She put CS on gauze and covered the
psoriasiswith the wet gauze, then completely covered it with Saran plastic
wrap.  This kept the dressing wet all night. She did this about three nights
in a row, and almost all gone
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 5:24 PM
Subject: CS>psoriasis


>
> A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system
> disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition.
> Any of you had success using cs? If so, I would suggest it to her, but I
> diffinitely do not want to make a fool of myself.
> Sylvie:-))
>
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Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

[MARIANO DELISE]

He had  shingles about 8 years ago, pain ever since, until CS.
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:42 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


  What was the primary condition that the man had? 

   

  James-Osbourne: Holmes

   

  -Original Message-
  From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:06 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

   

  Hang in thereMy neighbor  only drank about 2 oz per day, but it took 
about 4 months before he noticed anything.  It was very SLOW, and very GRADUAL, 
but it was definately worth the wait.He is 76 years old, and says he's 
feeling better than 15 years ago.  When he started on the CS he could not even 
put his wallet in his pocket without pain, and he could not sit on one side 
without comfort, also, he slept on one of those foam mattresses, but still 
could not sleep on one side.  Now he can do all of it.  

  - Original Message - 


  From: Maxine Wilton 

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Sent: Friday, May 14, 2094 11:46 PM

  Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

   

   Mariano,

   How long and how much did your neighbor take of C S??

   Did they take anyhting else with it etc?  I been on it about 2months now and 
drinking abt   14 oz aday now.  I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I 
if I am, doing wrong? 

  Maxine 

  -Original Message-
  From: MARIANO DELISE 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Date: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

  How much CS are you on, and how often.  My neighbor had shingles, and the CS 
orally is what killed the virus, but I think you should be agressive.  How 
about working up to 8 - 16 oz throughout the day?

  - Original Message - 


  From: Maxine Wilton 

  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

  Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:57 PM

  Subject: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

   

   Hello Gary,

   Are you a Dr of what kind of medicine??

My Dr said the Contrition won't help but I differ.

   I have been taking  Glucosimine/ Contrition and it has helped me.

   What do you do to get rid of the Virus of Shingles/ chicken pox.?

   I have found many things that all help with the p[ain in lessoning it some 
,but I want to KILL the VIRUS as The pain won't go away without ridding oneself 
of the unstopable Virus I beleive.

   I am also on CS  and won't give up yet. 

  Maxine 

  mm...@sprynet.com

   

   

   

Re: CS>psoriasis

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi all,
Perhaps you missed my response the other day.  My friend had psoriasis VERY
BAD CASE.  She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots.  I gave her
CS.  She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis.  She wrapped this gauze
with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night.  She did this for three
days, and it was almost ALL GONE.  The CS does work.She also drank about
an oz. twice a day.
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis


> Should she then use it locally only or internally as well??
> Sylvie
>
>
> =Sylvie,  "an immune system disorder" meerly suggests that the body is
> =under
> =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS
> =refered to as a "second immune system"
>
> =Jack
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Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus

[MARIANO DELISE]

add about 5 drops H202 to the CS, let it stand about  15 minutes, add 6 oz.
Gatorade and drink a little all day long.
- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Gary Green/ Chicken Pox Virus


> In article <02292125$ad8b8020$8dee8...@mmwawsprynet.com>,
> "Maxine Wilton"  wrote:
> > I been on it about 2months now and drinking abt 14 oz aday now.
> > I still have the p[ain and the virus. What am I if I am, doing
> > wrong?
>
> I can't answer your question, but I can suggest that you take that 14oz
> of CS in small amounts throughout the day, swishing each sip around in
> the mouth for several minutes before swallowing.
>
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Re: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools

[MARIANO DELISE]

It needs a very SMALL amount of chlorine to burn off all the dead critters
killed by the silver.  Not enough to make much silver chloride
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:18 AM
Subject: CS>CC & CS for swimming pools


> Hi all,
>
> I've been looking at some ionizers for swimming pools.  The majority of
> sites say that some chlorine is still needed weekly.  It would seem to me
> that the chlorine and silver would make some silver chloride.  Please
> correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that silver chloide was
> poisonous/toxic?
>
> Does anyone currently use an ionizer in your pool/spa, and how satisfied
> with it are you?  I seem to recall the original thread was posed by
> Marshall.
>
> Leacy
> Life is Good!
>
>
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Re: CS>taste of cs

[MARIANO DELISE]

mix it with Gatorade.  This will help the taste plus the electolites will
get the CS into your blood quicker.
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:19 AM
Subject: CS>taste of cs


>
> Hi everyone, could you tell me what the taste of your cs is like?? Mine
does
> have a metal taste to it. Yack!!!
> Sylvie
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Re: CS>my 1st. batch

[MARIANO DELISE]

Don't throw it away.l  Use it topically and on your plants.  Use it to keep
cut flowers longer, also the water doesn't smell when the cut flowers die.
- Original Message -
From: "John Reeder" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: CS>my 1st. batch


> Hello Roger,
>
> I am using a Colloid Master 777 to make my cs. It has been turning
> out a pale to medium yellow at about 12-15 ppm according to my Hanna
> tester. I poured some in my wife's drinking water - plastic bottle
> just opened (Costco brand), and it turned pink, measuring about
> 20 ppm ??? I poured it out, yellow okay, pink, no. Probably your
> batch didn't reach the shutoff point was because the electrodes
> needed to be scrubbed. Mine does the same thing unless I do one
> scrub during the process.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger D Ragain [mailto:rrag...@juno.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:13 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>my 1st. batch
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I made my first batch of cs Saturday. When I stopped the process the cs
> was clear. Now when I opened the kitchen cuboard this morning, I saw the
> cs was a dark yellow or amber. Is this acceptable? I am going to filter
> it after 36 hours but, the color has suprised me. I've been using
> distilled water purchased at WalMart and it failed the water purity test
> but, I proceeded making it. It never reached the shutoff point but, I
> shut it off after 25 hours. I didn't have any cs available as a
> starter,btw.
>
> Roger Ragain
> Cahokia, Illinois
> United States of America
> E-mail:   rrag...@juno.com
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Re: CS>psoriasis

[MARIANO DELISE]

Please do.  Tell her keeping it moist with CS is the secret
- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis


> Hello, I did read your response, thanks. Is it o.k. if I give her your
> message to read?
> Sylvie
>
>
> Original Message Follows
> From: "MARIANO  DELISE" 
> Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> To: 
> Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis
> Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 20:21:45 -0500
>
> Hi all,
> Perhaps you missed my response the other day.  My friend had psoriasis
VERY
> BAD CASE.  She was slated to go to her doctor for storid shots.  I gave
her
> CS.  She put a wet with CS gauze over the psoriasis.  She wrapped this
gauze
> with plastic wrap so it would stay moist all night.  She did this for
three
> days, and it was almost ALL GONE.  The CS does work.She also drank
about
> an oz. twice a day.
> - Original Message -
> From: "sylvie hargraft" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>psoriasis
>
>
>  > Should she then use it locally only or internally as well??
>  > Sylvie
>  >
>  >
>  > =Sylvie,  "an immune system disorder" meerly suggests that the body is
>  > =under
>  > =assault by some organism and is not winning the fight. I have seen CS
>  > =refered to as a "second immune system"
>  >
>  > =Jack
>  >
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Re: CS>psoriasis

[MARIANO DELISE]

I know two people who did this. It is not a one day treatment, but the
direct contact of the CS 24 hours is what is important.Please don't give up.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Jef Ackermans" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:19 AM
Subject: CS>psoriasis


> Hello members,
> A few weeks ago I read an report from a member to treat psoriasis. In this
report he or she told to bandage the spots make the bandage wet and cover it
some plastic before going to sleep. Well I have an old friend who is
suffering for years now of psoriasis. So I adviced her to do this
treatement. Yeasterday after almost two weeks of treatement I went to visit
her to see how she was doing and to see if the treatement had resulted well.
I'm sorry but she and I where disappointed. The treatement didn't worked as
one told it would be. Did I do something wrong here? Please help.
> Regards Jef
>
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CS>"over cooking"

[MARIANO DELISE]

Usually when I make my CS with a HVAC unit it is light amber.  The other night 
I forgot it was plugged i n and before you know it the container had pretty 
black CS.  It measured 30ppm on my "Hanna".  I diluted it in half with fresh 
distilled water.  It then measured 15ppm and was crystal clear.  It never did 
get amber.  Is this just as good?  What do I have here? anyone know.  I'm 
mostly wondering why it didn't turn amber.  Are the particles smaller when it 
is clear?
Nancy

Re: CS>cs and ms

[MARIANO DELISE]

My MS has been 80% cured.  You must be agressive and VERY patient.  I drink
about 16oz of 10ppm per day.  It is a very slow process, but it most
certainly works.  I have a short journal of my experience with CS & MS if
anyone wants it.  Contact me off list nancym...@prodigy.net

- Original Message -
From: "sylvie hargraft" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: CS>cs and ms


>
>
> What do you guys know about cs and ms. They are coming to believe that cs
is
> caused by a virus but...???
>
> Sylvie
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Re: CS>making silver

[MARIANO DELISE]

Nice to have you with us
- Original Message - 
From: "Sylvia Daniels" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 7:52 AM
Subject: CS>making silver


> I make CS with a machine I got from drclark.net
> I clean off the hot wire 1/2 way through and get an
> amber yellow result...
> I find that my body let go of a lot of old stuff...
> moles dropped off...cool huh?
> red bumps appeared on my legs and then cleared up...
> had some aches and pains...
> I took it for 14 days,
> off 7 now and will start again in a few days...
> nice to know about this group.
> Sylvia
> 
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CS>Fw: crash landing

[MARIANO DELISE]

Subject: crash landing


The pilot came across the intercom and said "Folks we are experiencing 
major difficulties and we need to prepare for a crash landing".  
Everyone began to panic.  The flight attendant starting to check on the 
passengers.  She walked by one lady putting on make-up and fixing her 
hair.  He said "we are about to crash what are you doing?" 
She replied "I heard that when the come to recover the passengers that 
they look for the prettiest one first".   
She kept walking and came to a black lady taking all of her clothes off. 
She asked her what she was doing. 
The Black lady replied "I heard that when they come to rescue that they 
look for the black box first"!!

Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.

[MARIANO DELISE]

If you keep the shingles moist with CS overnight, and drink about 2-3oz
every day, the dhingles will go away (slowly),  but it will go away.
- Original Message -
From: "Ellie Rosz" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.


> Roman:
> Thanks for sharing the info on a cure for Shingles.  Do you have any more
> information on how long ago this article was published, is there a product
> available here in the US containing this plant sap or anything else
> regarding these type of treatments available in the US.  I appreciate your
> response.
> Blessings,
> Ellie
>
>
> >From: Roman 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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> >
> >If I am not mistaken, shingles are caused by herpes zoster virus. Here's
> >what I have about it in my notes.
> >---
> >Local cure for herpes found
> >
> >By CATHERINE MGENDI
> >Local researchers have identified a plant whose sap can effectively
> >treat skin infections caused by the herpes virus without causing any
> >side effects, a conference on infections control heard recently.
> >
> >According to Mr James Muthotho, a microbiologist with the Kenya Medical
> >Research Institute (Kemri), the plant has been shown to "virtually cure"
> >herpes zoster, an itchy, painful skin infection characterised by
> >blistering.
> >
> >Herpes zoster is caused by the varicella virus, which also causes
> >chicken pox in children, according to medical experts.
> >
> >It is boosted by a depressed immunity, mainly resulting from HIV
> >infection as well as from cancer drugs and radiotherapy, doctors say.
> >
> >The frangipani plant's extract also treats the less traumatic herpes
> >simplex which manifests itself as recurrent cold sores around the mouth,
> >Mr Muthotho says.
> >
> >He unveiled these findings during the recently concluded scientific
> >conference of the Infections Control Association of Kenya held in
> >Nairobi.
> >
> >Mr Muthotho says they have been studying the efficacy of the frangipani
> >plant, plumeria rubra of the Apocynaceae family, for the past five
> >years, and have successfully treated more than 130 people suffering from
> >herpes zoster.
> >
> >The plant, which can grow more than two metres high and is vegetatively
> >propagated through the use of cuttings, is commonly referred to as the
> >`peace plant' as it is most commonly found in graveyards.
> >
> >The frangipani sap, Mr Muthotho says, stops the itchiness of herpes
> >zoster sores, healing them without leaving any scars. It also kills the
> >intense, recurrent post-treatment pain, and prevents recurrence, unlike
> >the conventional drugs.
> >
> >The microbiologist says the sap works by permeating the nervous system
> >cells to kill the herpes zoster virus eradicating the pain, and any
> >possibility of recurrence.
> >
> >"During application, one experiences a burning sensation. However,
> >within 10 to 20 minutes, the pain in the lesions reduces dramatically,"
> >he says.
> >
> >He adds that conventional medicines only dry up the blisters and do not
> >exterminate the virus, thus the recurrence of pain.
> >
> >"The lesions heal without scar tissue formation or secondary bacterial
> >infections," he says. "The drug Ipan (the plant sap) is safe and
> >efficacious."
> >
> >In some people, Mr Muthotho says, herpes zoster infection causes
> >restricted chest movements during breathing, which clear within two
> >hours of applying the sap.
> >
> >--
> >I also have saved an old message from an online discussion board. Here
> >it is:
> >
> >"i know of an alternative md in ohio . she claims she has a great
> >treatment for
> >shingles ( alleviates the pain) it has so

Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.

[MARIANO DELISE]

My 76 year old neighbor has shingles over 8 years ago.  Obviously the 
excruciating pain he has is the PHN.  over a year ago he saw my improvement 
with CS(not for shingles)and he bagan to drink 1 oz of CS per day.  He didn't 
notice any difference for over three months.  He was feeling generally better, 
but the pain was still unbearable.  Then VERY SLOWLY he bagan to feel better.  
The pain VERY GRADUALLY began to lessen.  In fact, it was his wife who pointed 
out to him the things he was doing that he could not do for over 7years.  After 
six months he bagan to use it topically on the painful spots.  I can only 
stress, it was over a period of a year that he VERY SLOWLY improved.  He 
practically kisses my feet whenever I see him, he is the most peppy, happy, 
active 76 year old I know.  Most of the men I know cannot keepup with him, now. 
 PATIENCE AND CONSISTANCY are the key.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: waddle...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.


  There is such confusion on this subject that I would like to comment.

  The pain is caused by the virus damaging the nerve connections specifically 
the nerve endings, Killing the virus doesn't eliminate the pain it has caused. 
Killing the virus only prevents it from causing further nerve damage and 
therefore pain.

  Altho the virus remains in the system (for life) it becomes dormant 
again..until the next time. Ultimately, the body itself must repair the 
damage.

  So, if the virus is dormant, how is the CS going to eliminate the pain. The 
pain is not a virus. The pain is not a bacteria.

  I make and use CS myself. It certainly has it's uses and limitations. But 
it's absurd for what some use it for.

  Pain from the rash is not nerve damage and can be eliminated or alleviated by 
topical treatment.
  I would say this is what the plant sap does. I would definitely say it will 
not repair or restore nerve damage. If it does, I will move heaven and earth to 
get it.

  Most shingles last about 5 weeks. Longer than that would be the PHN (post 
herpetic Neuraligia) stage which may last for years. Currently 
UCSFMC(University of California San Francisco Medical Center) is actively 
researching this.

  If shingles are treated very early, 2 weeks or less, steroids and anti virus 
medication is usually  effective.

  Pain is the primary consideration for the treatment shingles. I was 
considering a nerve block.

  In the 6 months that I've had this affliction nothing conventional or 
alternative that I've tried has worked.

  Except a visiting monk to whomI was introduced. While we talked he was 
sending out energy. All the pain was gone. I was elated. I was cured. However, 
2 hrs after I got home, the pain came back.

  I had one more session with him before he left town. Again the pain was 
gone.and came back again. I would like to think that if I had more time 
with him he might have been able to effect a cure.

  I'm tired and have written more than I should.

  Waddle


  In a message dated 07/11/2002 9:55:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
r_...@yahoo.com writes:



I think the article states otherwise: "The microbiologist says the sap 
works by
permeating the nervous system cells to kill the herpes zoster virus 
eradicating
the pain, and any possibility of recurrence." This tells me it eliminates 
the
virus from the NS.

Roman

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Comment:
>
> The virus remains in the nervous system and will recurr.  My reading of 
the
> post indicates it heales the lesion; does not remove the virus from the
> body.  I hope I am wrong.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>

Re: CS>EU law

[MARIANO DELISE]

Is there anything we can do about this?
- Original Message - 
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: CS>EU law


> Excellent information; they really are out to reduce population, any way
> they can.
> 
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeannie [mailto:jean...@ucinet.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 5:42 AM
> To: Silver List
> Subject: CS>EU law
> 
> 
> Someone sent me the following.  Does anyone know any more about this?  I
> don't know about the inferred conspiracy stuff (money seems like a good
> enough motive to me), but what about the law?  Is it for real?
> 
> Jeannie
> 
> 
> Jaded Junker wrote:
> 
>   from nomorefakenews.com... it is happening quickly in the
> world...taking away choices
> 
> 
> 
>   THURSDAY, JULY 25.  The UK Telegraph reports on new EU
>   legislation which will close down 2000 health-food stores in England.
> Boom.
> 
> 
> 
>   ADD:  This EU rule was proposed and rammed through by the British
> Medicines Control Agency.  Herbal medicines will be considered drugs,
> and therefore will be subject to very expensive controlled studies
> before being allowed on the market.
> 
> 
> 
>   ADD:  Since most companies that sell these herbs can't afford to test
> them, the companies will shut down.
> 
>   ADD:  All this is retroactive, because many herbs are sold in England
> and the rest of Europe.  All of a sudden, despite an excellent safety
> record, the herbs will have to "start from scratch" in a lengthy
> approval process.
> 
> 
> 
>   ADD:  Even more strange:  In England, the only official complaints
> about herbal remedies have focused on certain preparations made up by
> Chinese practitioners.  A few of these products have been accused of
> being toxic or contaminated.  However, the new EU rules EXEMPT these
> remedies from the need for testing.
> 
>   ADD:  If there is no last-minute reprieve, the new EU rules will drive
> a major wedge into alternative medicine's territory.
> 
> ADD:  To say that the medical cartel has been one of the major
>   backers of the EU all along would be a vast understatement.
> 
>   ADD:  Under the basic principle of HARMONIZATION, which is the cover
> story given to all EU and WTO rulings, we could see efforts to bring
> other countries, including the US, under this new umbrella of health
> fascism.
> 
> ADD:  The new EU rule is essentially saying, "We need to protect the
> vast program of poisoning which is proceeding under the banner of
> pharmaceutical medicine--we need to protect THAT from competition from
> the safe, harmless natural health movement."
> 
>   ADD:  Well, when you put it that way.  Yes, I AM putting it that way.
> Because it is the stark truth.  The rule is saying DEATH BEFORE  LIFE.
> At the highest levels, this overall war against the population is
> INTENTIONAL.
> 
>   ADD:  It is not just another fumbling, bumbling mistake.  It is not
> just  about profits.  Because you and I are not the only people who can
> add up the devastation caused by pharmaceutical medicine.
> 
>  ADD:  "They're just blind and profit mad.  They don't know what
>   they're doing."  No, I'm afraid not.  SOMEBODY knows what he's
>   doing.  And that somebody (a few somebodies) happens to be at the top
> of the pharmaceutical structure.
> 
>  ADD:  "Forgive them as they destroy you.  For they know not what
> they're doing."  Go ahead, sing that tune if you want to.  But it's a
> lie.
> 
> --
> One thing you can't recycle is wasted time.
> 
> Jeannie McReynolds
> Oregon Coast
> 
> 
> 
> 
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CS>my MS update

[MARIANO DELISE]

All my friends on the listso many of you have been  extremely helpful with 
my quest for my "cure".  So many of you have answered many of my questions with 
great patience.  I have learned more in the two years I have been on the silver 
list then I believed I learned in the last 30 years.  You have opened my eyes 
to so much, and have been very instrumentla in helping me get my life back from 
MS.  You must all be commended
Nancy

 

August 2002

My MS Update

 

I am sending this to all who have inquired about my original MS journal or 
helped me along the way.

This is the second anniversary of my long, but wonderful journey with colloidal 
silver (CS).

 

I am a 59-year-old female who had relapsing remitting MS for 31 years.  About 
1995 it changed to secondary progressive MS.  Thus began my long road of 
decline.  Everyday I got worse. When I discovered CS I could barely walk.  I 
was beginning to use a cane.  I could not even go up on the curb without aid.  
My prognosis was grim.  I had some knowledge of the great properties of silver, 
so the idea of CS intrigued me. I researched CS. What did I have to loose?

I began drinking 16 oz per day.  In about three weeks I began to 
notice a difference.  You already have a log of my first year's progress.   I 
seemed to reach a plateau about this time.  I did not improve, BUT I never got 
worse.

I have since had an MRI and it showed that at this time Aug 2001, I 
no longer had MS.  I have had no new lesions for well over a year.  What I was 
working on at the time is to now repair the damage.  Since the damage is to the 
myelin and not the central nervous system, I was quite confident I could 
improve.

 

1 year-6 months:  I have researched adding hydrogen peroxide to the CS.  One 
drop of H2o2  per 2 oz of  CS.  I learned this would cause the tiny silver 
particles to break up into even more minute particles.  After 15 minutes, the 
peroxide was evaporated out of the CS, so it is not harmful to the body, but 
the tinier particles of silver got into the blood stream quicker.  All this 
time it was a slow process because by the time the silver got to the myelin 
where it was needed, it was so diluted, it couldn't penetrate the lesions and 
kill the mycoplasma (MS virus)   Within a week I began to feel old symptoms 
again.  This is what I call a healing crisis:  I would get symptoms of the MS 
as the virus was dying and the dying pathogen aggravated the nerves, so for 2-4 
days I would feel like I was having varying degrees of exacerbation. After a 
short period, it would end and I was improved again.  

 

If I had known about this earlier, I am convinced my recovery time would have 
increased a great deal.

 

1 year-9 months:  I am sure there is a way to go even quicker... I began to 
research IV drips.  There are cases of HIV-AIDS infected patients going into 
complete remission after three infusions.  I worked on this project for  about 
six weeks.  I finally found someone with a protocol of infusing CS 
intravenously.  I also found a doctor willing to work with me and give this a 
try.



1 year-11 months: First IV:  I had my first IV.  By that evening I had my first 
healing crisis; my legs became extremely heavy (like they were 2 years ago).  
My fingers tips were still numb, but the numbness was extremely exaggerated.  
All was better at day four

 

Second IV  a week later:  My legs are again aching a great deal,  the numbness 
in my fingers is very intense.  It almost feels like they are not attached to 
me.  All better by day three.

 

Third, fourth, fifth IV: Each time I experienced a reverse of some symptoms I 
had either forgotten about over the last 40 years, or didn't realize over the 
years were actually MS symptoms.  I've practically no problems at all.  I feel 
better then I have in 15 years.  I will have no more IV's, but I will NEVER 
stop drinking CS.

 

If I had known about the IV's I probably would have had full recovery even 
sooner.  I am quite sure the old lesions are going away.  I am anxious for 
another MRI to prove this also.

 

TWO YEAR ANNIVERSARY:No more MS, no more symptoms.  Most myelin repaired. 

 

PS: My friend, also an MS patient is on the IV drip.  She also no longer has MS 
(By her MRI), but she was sores than me, and not able to get out of her wheel 
chair.  Since IV's she has given up all her spasm medication and has begun to 
take STEPS ON HER OWN.

 

I would be happy to share what I've learned with anyone.  Call me 708-442-6229, 
snailmail me: Nancy DeLise, 380 Blachawk Road, Riverside, Il.  60546, or email 
me: nancym...@proidgy.net  

 

I am completely convinced this will help anyone with any autoimmune disease. 

 

Traditional medicine   vs   
 colloidal silver  

 

Cost:minimum $10

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[MARIANO DELISE]

My friend had psoriasis.  She put CS on gauze pads and placed directly on the 
psoriasis.  She then covered this with saran plastic wrap so the pad would 
remain moist all night.  After a couple of nights of direct contace, the 
psoriasis began to clear up.  Of course drinking it at the same time is a good 
idea.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod STEVENSON 
  To: silverlist 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:05 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Thanks James,
  I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is why 
I didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance. 
  I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from 
the back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the back 
of the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of many 
months the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her toe/fingernails 
has been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after several visits to a 
Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was never made.
  There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture 
technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7) 
and cleaning the "graze" that results from a heavy 7SN technique.
  So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact 
with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her 
for.
  Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a gel 
recipe was important.
  Many thanks for any help
  Rod Stevenson
  PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat 
etc, I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment (other 
than needles -which are single use ) 
  You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I could 
ever give.   
- Original Message - 
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as well 
as those done in broth. 
A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from that 
of a liquid preparation. 

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
  To: silverlist
  Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Hi List,
  Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS? 
Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
  Any ideas?
  TIA
  Rod.

Re: CS>Artheritus & injuries

[MARIANO DELISE]

That was very interesting information about the Mold.  How did you know this?
  - Original Message - 
  From: qec...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:40 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Artheritus & injuries


  In a message dated 8/8/2002 8:12:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
777ix...@bellsouth.net writes:



Does anyone have any insight on arthritis & injuries vs silver. 


  Yes.  Rheumatism and mold are one and the same.  CS should stop the 
arthritis.  Look at alternativemedicine.com.  I think that was the place I read 
about a doctor who gave a mere 3 cc of 30 PPM a day and knocked out crippling 
arthritis.

  Often, people who live in old, old houses develop these problems because of 
mold.  Diet can counter it but not today's diet which is really part of the 
problem. 

Re: CS>Artheritus & injuries

[MARIANO DELISE]

we're not talking arthritis, we'rre talking rheumatism.  Two different things, 
I believe.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Missett 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Artheritus & injuries


  During the five years I have taken CS every day, my arthritis developed and 
progressed.  It has not gotten better, it has not regressed.
- Original Message - 
From: qec...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Artheritus & injuries


In a message dated 8/8/2002 8:12:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
777ix...@bellsouth.net writes:



  Does anyone have any insight on arthritis & injuries vs silver. 


Yes.  Rheumatism and mold are one and the same.  CS should stop the 
arthritis.  Look at alternativemedicine.com.  I think that was the place I read 
about a doctor who gave a mere 3 cc of 30 PPM a day and knocked out crippling 
arthritis.

Often, people who live in old, old houses develop these problems because of 
mold.  Diet can counter it but not today's diet which is really part of the 
problem. 

Re: CS>hepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes questions

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have a friend who has been getting cold sore regularly for as many years
as I can remember.  She started taking CS last December.  She also had the
tingle feeling of a cold sore beginning two times since then, but they never
emerged.  That was it, so I would say the CS did it!
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>hepatitis-c geno type 1 non responder to peg and herpes
questions


>
>
> >is there anybody out there who has tried peg or any
> >other interferon combo treatments and did not respond?
> >if so please e-mail me I a am new to cs i'm just
> >trying CS I have purchased the new advanced CS made
> >through a mesoprocess When i was on peg i did
> >partially respond my viral load was over a million and
> >my final load dropped down to the low thousands. I
> >would not even dare try to make CS on my own as i am
> >still unsure of what could happen down the road. thank
> >you
> >
> >p.s. any advice on getting rid of cold sores would be
> >helpful also  thank you
> >
> >=
> >shepp
> >>
>
> I personally have not tried peg-entron (sp?) but since I am Hep C positive
> and have many friends who are also, I have been asked to.  Also, a very
> good friend of mine just stopped  taking it and it did nothing but make
her
> very, very ill.  She said that her viral load went down while she was on
> it, but it rose again after she stopped and is now back at the same place
> it was before she started.  She is not the only friend I have that has
> gotten very sick while taking that 'poison'.
>
> I personally will NOT put that stuff in my body.  Not after seeing what my
> friends went through.  And I won't even begin to mention the costs
> involved, especially if you have no insurance or Medicaid.
>
> If you would like to talk with her, I can have her email you.  Let me
know.
>
> Regarding the cold sore/herpes virus, I also have been cursed with that
> (not the mouth cold sore type either!) and I usually get those sores at
> least once a month.  Sometimes more often.  Since I started taking the CS
> I've been making, I only had one sore start to form.  I started to get the
> tingle in the back of my leg but it never developed past that.  Usually
> when I get that tingle, I get a sore two days later.  But this time it
> didn't happen.  Was it the CS?  It's the only thing I've done differently
> this month so I tend to think it is.  Just my opinion though.   Any time
> without one of those sores is a blessing and if the CS can keep them away,
> I'll take it.   If the CS can do all the other wonderful things it seems
to
> be able to do, I'll take it forever.  Again, just my opinion.
>
> Thanks,
> Christine
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>re: mycoplasma

[MARIANO DELISE]

Christine,
Absolutely, positively, YES!  One of those autoimmune dieases is MS which I
had two years ago and killed off with CS.  I am also aware first hand of CS
curing crones, fibromyalgia, lupus, shingles, and endometriosis.  All of
these people drink CS I make.  I suggest to them to drink 16 oz  everyday
mixed with H202 3% (1 drop for every 2 oz of CS) and  Gatorade.  I then
suggest they drink a little all day long, half in the am, and 1/2 in the pm.
A little all day long is better than a lot all at one time.
I also have eight other people with MS drinking my CS and improving.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: CS>re: mycoplasma


>
> Very  interesting about the mycoplasma.  But the bottom line is - can CS
> fix it?  Is there any info online regarding how CS can be used to help
kill
> this stuff and/or reverse the damages caused by this mycoplasma?
>
> Thanks,
> Christine
>
>
>
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Re: CS>my introduction

[MARIANO DELISE]

I would like to personally thank each and every one of these people Jason has 
listed.  They have all been extremely kind and helpful answering my many 
questions both on and off list.  I owe my new HEALTHY life to each of them.  
That includes Jason, too.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: AVRA / Jason 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:48 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>my introduction


  Well, let's see!

  Francis Key owns this page ( an excellent little chart on silver particles 
---  ---    >>>  Francis Key is an excellent chemist and has slowly but 
assuredly expanded my knowledge and understanding of silver particles ):

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/attributesofsilverparticlesandsolutions.html

  Bob Lee, gracious in words, thought and expression ( also known as Tai Pan, 
whom if we were to ever silence, would result in another great loss -- -- -- 
-- A great researcher Weston Price, who delved into, among other things, 
how teeth relate to health, also was supremely aware of the effect of colloids 
such as clays in matters of health ) owns this fantastic commentary on using 
Faraday's Equation/Law for CS:

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/howmuchsilverdididrink.html

  Brooks Bradley, selflessly taking the time to share  owns this truly 
life-saving page:

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html

  Stephen Quinto and I own this page:

  http://www.silvermedince.org/bentoniteandsilverbacterialcomparisonstudy.html

  "Herx" owns this excellent calculator... and one day, he, 'ole bob and/or 
others will likely find an adjustment factor to make PPM calculations accurate 
enough for "government work":

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/faradaycalculator.html

  I suppose Dr. Robert O. Becker darn near owns this page:

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/robertobecker.html

  There's several pages that, if an owner had to be chosen, it would likely 
have to be our very own moderator extraordinaire, Mike D., as they consist of 
eskimo silver-list postings.

  The FDA owns this page, although in this case I'm about literally shoving it 
down their throats:

  http://www.silvermedicine.org/fda.html

  If I continued to go on listing the names, we'd likely be here for quite some 
time!  Rest assured, all of the old-timers on this list would be included on 
THAT list.

  But of course that list would include Trem and Ken, two extraordinary 
individuals who have shared various expertise...  The kind folks from the 
Silver Institute... oh, don't forget Roger Altman!

  The mistakes are mine.  Slowly they have been weeded out.  Rarely do I get an 
embarrassing email from an all-too-astute observer ( always appreciated however 
) these days.

  Best Regards,

  Jason


Who owns that site?  

Re: CS>re: mycoplasma how much do you charge for your cs

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have beenmaking my own cs for 18 months.  I only make it for friends and 
relatives.  I do not charge, they buy the water for me.  
I have suggested to all my friends, etc with a serious ailment to take 
16oz. drinking a small amount all day long rather than a lot at one time.  So 
far, this has worked for all of them.  Several of my friends take an oz. a day. 
 They are not sick, just a preventive.  This would include my husband.  He has 
not had a cold in two years.
Nancy
-- Original Message - 
  From: mars larz 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:13 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>re: mycoplasma how much do you charge for your cs


   

   MARIANO DELISE wrote: 

Christine,
Absolutely, positively, YES! One of those autoimmune dieases is MS which I
had two years ago and killed off with CS. I am also aware first hand of CS
curing crones, fibromyalgia, lupus, shingles, and endometriosis. All of
these people drink CS I make. I suggest to them to drink 16 oz everyday
mixed with H202 3% (1 drop for every 2 oz of CS) and Gatorade. I then
suggest they drink a little all day long, half in the am, and 1/2 in the pm.
A little all day long is better than a lot all at one time.
I also have eight other people with MS drinking my CS and improving.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:01 PM
Subject: CS>re: mycoplasma


>
> Very interesting about the mycoplasma. But the bottom line is - can CS
> fix it?! I! s there any info online regarding how CS can be used to help
kill
> this stuff and/or reverse the damages caused by this mycoplasma?
>
> Thanks,
> Christine
>
>How long have you been making CS? How much do you charge for a 16o/z 
bottle? how much should one take for getting rid of hep-c genotype 1?  (genoype 
is very important to know about when giving advice to hep-c victims because 
geno type 1 is the most resistant and deadly form of hep-c)
>
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CS>cs in lungs

[MARIANO DELISE]

My friend had been a heavy smoker and probaby has damage on his lungs.  what 
would be the best way to get CS to the lungs not having a nebulizer Of course 
he was a heavy smoker.  I do not want him to use a nebulizer since some of the 
nicotine could break off and kill him.  If he sprays cs into each nostril and 
in his throat, will that be of help?
Nancy

Re: CS>cs in lungs

[MARIANO DELISE]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (I think it was Jason) who had a
patient nebulise.  It caused a particle (?) of nicotine be released from the
lungs. I don't remember any more of the particulars, except the person
nearly died.
- Original Message -
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: RE: CS>cs in lungs


> The best way is to nebulise or use an atomiser (not as good).
> I have not herd of nicotine being stored in lumps in the lungs or
> being a problem in this way. Do you have some reference. In any case,
> nebulising is simply breathing cs laden air, and a good cough is more
> likely to dislodge stuff in the lungs.
> spraying in his throat and whilst breathing in may help.
>
> regards
> Ivan.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2002 4:50 p.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>cs in lungs
>
>
> My friend had been a heavy smoker and probaby has damage on his lungs.
> what would be the best way to get CS to the lungs not having a
> nebulizer Of course he was a heavy smoker.  I do not want him to use a
> nebulizer since some of the nicotine could break off and kill him.  If
> he sprays cs into each nostril and in his throat, will that be of
> help?
> Nancy
>
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Re: CS>cs in lungs

[MARIANO DELISE]

Re: CS>cs in lungsI thought I heard that the nicotine could loosen from the 
lungs and travel to the heart?? I could be way off base>
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Dayton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs





    From: "MARIANO  DELISE" 
Subject: CS>cs in lungs
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 21:47:43 -0700

My friend had been a heavy smoker and probaby has damage on his lungs.  
what would be the best way to get CS to the lungs not having a nebulizer Of 
course he was a heavy smoker.  I do not want him to use a nebulizer since some 
of the nicotine could break off and kill him.  If he sprays cs into each 
nostril and in his throat, will that be of help?
Nancy


  Hi Nancy,
  I'm not quite sure what you think you will be treating,
  if your friend uses a nasal sprayer, why will that be
  different than using a nebulizer, the CS that does 
  reach his lungs using either method will be the same.

   What  did you read or hear that made you think 
  CS  would get rid of the nicotine? It won't !

  P.S.   I think it's the tar, not the nicotine that
  turns things brown.

  Jack 

Re: CS>cs in lungs

[MARIANO DELISE]

Sorry, I just remember reading about the nebulizer & nicotine.  I'm glad you
were there to set this straight
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "AVRA / Jason" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs


> Nancy:
>
> In that particular situation, an oxygen nebulizer was used.  A very minute
> amount of hydrogen peroxide was pre-mixed with the colloidal silver.
>
> My hypothesis on what occured was that the reaction between the colloidal
> silver and the H2O2 ( and possibly bacteria in the lungs ) caused nicotine
> to enter the bloodstream, resulting in a severe nicotine overdose and a
> great reduction in oxygen adsorption.
>
> Colloidal silver alone did not have this effect.
>
> Jason
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "MARIANO DELISE" 
> To: "*Silver-List*" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 3:41 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs
>
>
> > I seem to remember reading somewhere (I think it was Jason) who had a
> > patient nebulise.  It caused a particle (?) of nicotine be released from
> the
> > lungs. I don't remember any more of the particulars, except the person
> > nearly died.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ivan Anderson" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 8:46 AM
> > Subject: RE: CS>cs in lungs
> >
> >
> > > The best way is to nebulise or use an atomiser (not as good).
> > > I have not herd of nicotine being stored in lumps in the lungs or
> > > being a problem in this way. Do you have some reference. In any case,
> > > nebulising is simply breathing cs laden air, and a good cough is more
> > > likely to dislodge stuff in the lungs.
> > > spraying in his throat and whilst breathing in may help.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Ivan.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net]
> > > Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2002 4:50 p.m.
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject: CS>cs in lungs
> > >
> > >
> > > My friend had been a heavy smoker and probaby has damage on his lungs.
> > > what would be the best way to get CS to the lungs not having a
> > > nebulizer Of course he was a heavy smoker.  I do not want him to use a
> > > nebulizer since some of the nicotine could break off and kill him.  If
> > > he sprays cs into each nostril and in his throat, will that be of
> > > help?
> > > Nancy
> > >
> > >
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Re: CS>Trying to reach Brooks Bradley

[MARIANO DELISE]

The last emial address I had for Brooks is liat...@flash.net  I hope you
find him
- Original Message -
From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" 
To: "Silver-List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 11:17 PM
Subject: CS>Trying to reach Brooks Bradley


> I apologize for using the list space for this but I need to contact BB and
> the e-mail address I have does not work.  Can someone give me his address?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> James-Osbourne: Holmes
>
>
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Re: CS>cs in lungs

[MARIANO DELISE]

That's a great source, Thank you
- Original Message - 
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: CS>cs in lungs


> Ha ha, you're too funny.
> To answer your question, no, but I will make an exception in your case
> :-)
> BTW, do you still beat your wife?
> 
> If you are seriously interested in CS in the lungs, read this:
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/airbrushoxygennebulizer.html
> 
> Ivan.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 22 August 2002 6:45 a.m.
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>cs in lungs
> >
> >
> > Ivan:
> >
> > have you ever seriously screwed up someone's health with
> > your advice?
> 
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Re: CS>Re: buying cs instead of making it...

[MARIANO DELISE]

How would you make a battery operated silver wand?
- Original Message -
From: "John A. Stanley" 
Newsgroups: list.silver
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2002 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: buying cs instead of making it...


> In article <3.0.3.32.20020826121025.032d4...@mail.earthlink.net>,
> Ode Coyote  wrote:
> >
> >  Spring water has any combination and amount of mineral and metallic
> >anions you can imagine as evidenced by the very fact of its high
> >conductivity. Make CS with it and it's anyone guess as to what you'll
get.
> >[but, in a pinch...at least some of the total content will be useful and
> >the rest not very harmful]
>
> It occurred to me that people travelling in parts of the world with
> questionable water quality could make a battery powered "silver wand"
> that they could stir in drinking water to make it safe to drink. I've
> heard that in India it's common for dishonest restauranteurs to refill
> water bottles from the tap and sell it as bottled water. If used on a
> short-term basis there shouldn't be any problem from ingesting small
> amounts of impurely made CS.
>
> --
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Re: CS>CS Lotion - Jean

[MARIANO DELISE]

Jean,
My friend had psoriasis.  She put CS soaked gauze pads over the psoriasis
and covered it with plastic wrap over night.  This kept the CS in contact
all night.  Within a couple of nights of this, the psoriasis was cleared up.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS Lotion - Jean


> I'd be interested in making a lotion for my mother-in-law to try.  She has
> developed a case of psoriasis, and the prescription cream is
$800/MONTH!
> I have been hesitant to suggest any alternatives, since a) she has
ultimate
> faith in all these "expert" doctors who keep experimenting on her and my
> father-in-law, as long as the insurance company keeps paying, and b) her
> oldest daughter is now freeloading (oops, excuse me, living) there, and
she
> is a self-proclaimed "expert" on alternatives, so I don't know how well my
> suggestion will be received.  But, I'm willing to try.
>
> So, Jean, if you hit on a formula that works, could you share it?  Also,
for
> your information, my local health food store did have a cream on its
shelf,
> which I tried to buy, but the owner insisted on opening it to check it
before
> he rang it up.  He said he had been having a lot of trouble with the cream
> drying up and turning into a little ball in the jar.  Don't know if
there's a
> problem with shelf life or something that you might need to consider if
> marketing it.  He tried all the jars while I stood there, and all of them
had
> the same problem.  This apparently wasn't the first time...
>
> Linda
>
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Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections

[MARIANO DELISE]

Ms Lupus, and fibomyalgia are all caused by micoplaysma.  My CS has cured
all three of these so far.
Actually 8 people so far have been drinking my CS for MS.  So far they all
are much improved.  Five of the 8 have had MRI's lately.  All 5 MRI show NO
NEW LESIONS.  ALL LESIONS ARE OLD. That sounds like a cure in my book.
Also, the damage caused by the MS is being repaired with the help of CS.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "J & S Campbell" 
To: "Silver-list" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections


> Hi,
>
> I read an email in the archive, I think from TJ Garland, about being
> infected with the mycoplasma incognito fermentans. Could you please tell
me
> if you found CS to cure you of this and what dosage regime did you follow
> and for how long? And where were you tested for it, by Garth Nicolson?
>
> Thanks,
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Genevieve
>
>
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Re: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections

[MARIANO DELISE]

Try adding H2o2 to the CS you are drinking.  Since I have been doing this,
it seems the CS works much faster.  I drink 8 oz CS twice a day.  Actually,
I drink 8 oz in small smounts all morning.  Then about 3PM I slowly drink
the second 8 oz.  It is bitter when you add the H2o2 so I add
gatorade.  I'm sure most any juice would work.  I add 1 drop of 3% H2o2 to
every 2 oz. of CS.  I then wait about 15 minutes before I add the Gatorade.
Pretty simple, and it works
- Original Message -
From: "TJ Garland" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: CS>TJ Garland and Mycoplasma infections


  I have not been tested again. Yes, I was tested by his group. I went on
everything  I could after I read about the horrible deaths of GWS people. I
drink about 4-6 oz CS a day. I eat garlic, take olive leaf extract, 10 grams
Vit C, lots sunshine, lots Ca/ Mg, no sugar, no aspartame, lots Superfood,
drink only distilled with fresh lemon to alkalyse the body, stay very close
to the Hallehiegh(sp) diet www.hacres.com   I do a quarterly liver ,
gallbladder, colon and kidney cleanse. I do a hair analysis every 6 months.
I will probably fight it the rest of my life.  Now, I am actively battling
tinnitus. My next step is to remove an old root canal.

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Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections

[MARIANO DELISE]

My understanding is we all have mycoplasma on our bodies, when there is a
stress of some sort in your life, the mycoplasyma invade your own cells.
Since they have no cell wall, they take over your cells completely, live off
the contents of your cell, and hide.  Your body knows there is a pathogen
there, but it cannot find it since it is hiding in your cells. According to
your doctor, your body is attacking for no reason...The reason is the
hidden mycoplasyma.  The CS finds it.
All of these people drink 8oz CS twice a day.  We add one drop of 3%
H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS.  Wait about 15 minutes, then we add Gatorade and
drink it slowly all day.  It will probably take a couple of weeks before you
notice anything, but it is working.
- Original Message -
From: "Wayne Fugitt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:53 AM
Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasma infections


> Morning Nancy,
>
> At 09:56 PM 8/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Ms Lupus, and fibomyalgia are all caused by micoplaysma.  My CS has cured
> >all three of these so far.
>
>A very interesting message.  I recently, ( finally ) had a mycoplasma
> test and the report was
> negative for only two types.
>
>I understand that 50 types have been identified.  I  have no symptoms
> that suggest I have
> mycoplasma but was curious due to the information that suggest everyone is
> infected.
>
> Actually, the head technician at one of the largest blood labs in the area
> stated, "everyone had it".
>
> My daughter and a close friend both have fibromyalgia.
>
> Could you give us more details on how you used CS and did you use any
other
> materials with is such as  DMSO or H2O2 ?
>
> Wayne
>
>
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Re: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasmas

[MARIANO DELISE]

I'm not sure what happens, exactly, but in my simple mind, I think of the
hydrogen  (like in the bomb) pulverizing the silver into the tiniest of
pieces, so they are able to get into the bloodstream.
- Original Message -
From: "J & S Campbell" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:05 AM
Subject: CS>TJ Garland and mycoplasmas


> Thanks for all the replies on this.How does the hydrogen peroxide increase
> the effectiveness of the CS? I read an email that said taking cayenne
pepper
> increased the absorption of CS, is that simply by increasing the blood
flow
> to the vessels in your mouth therefore it is absorbed more efficiently?
And
> if so would drinking a mug of hot liquid not have the same effect?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Genevieve
>
>
>
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Re: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction

[MARIANO DELISE]

It has been my personal experience that drinking the CS with H2o2 does
indeed increase the effectivness.  Somehow the silver particles become more
tiny, and they seem to be able to get into the blood stream quicker.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction


> Don,
>
> No I am not saying that, although it will be much more effective than
> metallic CS in the test-tube, and probably when applied externally
> also.
>
> There is much contention about the effectiveness ions vs. particles
> when taken orally, I tend to favour ions myself and so make that
> variety, but it is reported that particle CS is effective also. I have
> tried both, and can tell little difference between them, but then I
> haven't been ill much either.
> I should say that, if anecdotal evidence is accepted, then it is very
> difficult to make a CS which is not effective...and perhaps the only
> distinguishing feature is the colloid's stability and shelf life.
>
> Regards
> Ivan.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dwells2...@aol.com [mailto:dwells2...@aol.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2002 1:11 a.m.
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>RE: H2O2 and silver reaction
> >
> >
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > > The solution now consists of silver ions each having a positive
> > > charge, whereas the particles with which the H2O2 reacted had no
> > > charge at all. Indeed, metallic particles will most likely have a
> > > negative charge, due to the OH- molecules which adsorb
> > > (Stick to the
> > > outside of) the particles.
> >
> >
> > >
> > I want to be very clear on the above. Are you stating that
> > H2O2 mixed with CS and then allowed to "mix" actually makes
> > the solution more potent in regards to effectiveness
> > against pathogens?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Don Wells
>
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Re: CS>newbie argyria information

[MARIANO DELISE]

Relax.  As long as you have colloidal silver, you will not turn blue.  I
have been drinking 16 oz. per day for over two years.  Still no blue.
- Original Message -
From: "mars larz" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: CS>newbie argyria information


> i'm a cs newbie i take cs but i still have my doubts.
> anywayi looked for a discussion group site on
> yahoo for argyria and there is such a group that exist
> but it has no members not even the famous Rosemary
>
> =
> thank you
>
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Re: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics

[MARIANO DELISE]

How much CS were/are you drinking per day?
- Original Message -
From: "ronwilson" 
To: "CS" 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics


> have been losing fight with infection, antibiotics did not help. Tried CS.
> seemed to help  but infection is running wild, possible staff, acts like
one
> had year ago. Would their be conflict if took both?
>
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Re: CS>pH Test Paper source

[MARIANO DELISE]

You should be able to get ph test strips at a swimming pool supply shop.
- Original Message -
From: "gmac" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: CS>pH Test Paper source


> Drug stores don't carry PH test paper. You have to go to
> a " Hydroponics " store. They all seem to carry it.
>
> gm..
>
> jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:
> >>pH Test Paper (urine and saliva)...$7.50
> >>
> >
> > http://www.alkalizer.com/prices.html
> >
> > No unit quantity listed, but at least they have it.  No local drugstore
> > has it; wonder why?
> > jr
> >
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Re: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics

[MARIANO DELISE]

I agree with dropping the antibiotics and staying on CS.  How much CS are
you drinking?  Perhaps you need to increase the CS & drink it in small
amounts through out the day.
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Missett" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics


> My experience has been that there is no conflict, although I'd drop the
> antibiotics before the CS if there was concern
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronwilson" 
> To: "CS" 
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:00 PM
> Subject: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics
>
>
> > have been losing fight with infection, antibiotics did not help. Tried
CS.
> > seemed to help  but infection is running wild, possible staff, acts like
> one
> > had year ago. Would their be conflict if took both?
> >
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Re: CS>Nasal Sprayer

[MARIANO DELISE]

I get the 1.5 oz. saline nasal spray bottle at any local pharmacy.  They are 
about $2-$3.  They are easy to empty, rinse very well with distilled water, 
refill only 1/2 way with cs.  This sprayer is easy to fill and use.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeannie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:55 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nasal Sprayer



  "Medwith, Robert" wrote: 

  
Any one find a good source for Nasal Sprayers. 
My current source is from Old Prescription Sprayers but not all are easily 
refilled. 
Have had good luck with CS in a Nasal Sprayer to help Sinus's and stop some 
allergy 
Symptoms in nose. 

   Bob

  I keep a little nasal sprayer in my purse with a CS/DMSO combination in it, 
which I also use on the back of my throat if I feel a slight sore throat coming 
on.  Hitting it very quickly is a great advantage, and usually kills it right 
there.  However, since this is often used in public, and I don't want my breath 
to smell very bad, I use only about 1/20 DMSO. 
  I also would love a source of easily refillable nasal sprayers.  We do 
refill, but with difficulty. 

  Jeannie 


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  Jeannie McReynolds 
  Oregon Coast 

CS>Unidentified subject!

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi listers,
My friend lives in the Portland Oregon area, and she has contacted four doctors 
and clinics desperately trying to find one who will administer CS IV threapy.  
They all said no.  Is there anyone in the Portland area who will work with CS?  
Please contact me all of you alternate care docotrs in the Portland area.
Thanks, Nancy

Re: CS>Injecting CS

[MARIANO DELISE]

I have had IV therapy recently.  I HAD MS, it is gone.  Originaly I just drank 
CS, It did wonders.  It killed the MS mycoplaysma.  I then began to drink the 
CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, and the myelin began to repair.  
I finally tried IV infusions and after five weekly IV drips, I no longer have 
any symptoms from the MS.  My friend has done the same procedure.  She was in 
worse shape than me.  I was not yet wheelchair bound, but she was.  With about 
14 weekly infusions she is walking with her walker.  I am confident she will 
soon walk alone.  Neither of us had any adverse reactions to this protocol.  I 
found a clinic in the Chicago area willing to try it for us.  
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gordon Gazard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 2:25 PM
  Subject: CS>Injecting CS


  Hi there!

  A few questions :

  A very close friend has ankylosing spondilitis and in a desperate measure as 
there does not appear to be a "cure" available, wants to work with a doctor and 
have CS injected on a regular basis.

  Is there anyone out there who has some type of experience with this sort of 
treatment.  (and / or anything else which one coule try)

  Is it safe to inject?

  ... and finally, has colloidal silver been banned by the FDA or any other 
body in the USA?

  Very many thanks!
  Gordon

Re: CS>HepC

[MARIANO DELISE]

I firmly believe you need to be agressive with something like HepC.  My
experience with many of my friends with serious iliness like MS, Lupus,
fibromyalgia and crohns have all used the same routine, and have all gotten
better.  We all drink 8 oz. of 10 ppm CS twice a day (drink 8 oz. slowly in
the AM, and the other 8 oz. slowly beginnig at 3PM.  I also firmly believe
adding 1 drop of H2o2 per 2 oz. of CS will increase the curing ability of
the CS.  Let the CS stand about 15 minutes after you've added the H2o2.
Then add somthing to it.  I add Gatorade.  Also, have patience!  It is a
rather slow process, but it is definatelyworth the wait.
Be well,
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "glenn guthrie" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: CS>HepC


> Anyone have experience or insight into a possible protocol for chronic
HepC?
>   All sincere comments appreciated as this is a serious condition. At
least
> one consideration would be the effect on the liver.  We are hoping to
avoid
> the conventional treatment route, but that may be the way to go. If so,
> anyone know about the use of silver with the conventional treatment? I am
> reviewing the archives.
>
>
>
> _
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Re: CS>CS-injections

[MARIANO DELISE]

I add 1 drop of H2o2 per every two oz. of CS.  Stir gently and let sit about
15 min.  If your CS is amber, it will get slightly darker at first, then
after the 15 min, it will be almost crystal clear.  It will also be a bit
bitter, so I add Gatorade or some other flavoring to it.
Be well,
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Jef Ackermans" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 4:23 AM
Subject: CS>CS-injections


> Hello Nancy,
> You said you mixed CS with H2O2. What were the  proportions.
> Thanks Jef
>
>
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Re: CS>Fibroyalgia

[MARIANO DELISE]

FibroyalgiaI wrote this same routine in an answer to another letter just a few 
minutes ago, but I don't think this can be repeated too much.  My friend had 
fibromyalgia over 8 years.  She could not work anymore, she was in constent 
pain. She walked with a cane when she could walk. The doctor was about to giver 
her injections to kill the nerves in her leg.  She began to drimk CS 10 ppm, 8 
oz. twice a day.  She added 1 drop of H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS.  or 4 drops 
per each 8 oz.  Stir it gently and let it sit about 15 minutes.  After 15 
minutes, add about 4 oz. of some flavored drink, We use Gatorade.  Drink 8 oz. 
gradually during the morning.  At about 3 PM, beginin drinking the other 8 oz. 
also gradually.
This will not work over night, it is a rather slow process, but it is 
definately worth the wait.  Within four months, my friend no longer walks with 
her cane.  She did not have the injections to kill the nerves.  She is feeling 
like a new person.  It is quite a dramatic turn around. 
Be well,
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert 
  To: 'cs' 
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 1:43 PM
  Subject: CS>Fibroyalgia


  Has any one had success treating Fibroyalgia with CS 
  I have read this can be caused by aspertin which is  low cal items 
  My wife has since stopped eating any thing with aspertine in it 
  Very little seems to be known about this ailment 
  I would appreciate any help from treatment to information sources 

Thanks 
  Bob 

Re: CS>Fibroyalgia

[MARIANO DELISE]

FibroyalgiaIt is hydrogen peroxide 3%
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Borden 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:47 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Fibroyalgia


  What is H2o2, and where do I learn more about it?

   

  David

   

  -Original Message-
  From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:nancym...@prodigy.net] 
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:45 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Fibroyalgia

   

  I wrote this same routine in an answer to another letter just a few minutes 
ago, but I don't think this can be repeated too much.  My friend had 
fibromyalgia over 8 years.  She could not work anymore, she was in constent 
pain. She walked with a cane when she could walk. The doctor was about to giver 
her injections to kill the nerves in her leg.  She began to drimk CS 10 ppm, 8 
oz. twice a day.  She added 1 drop of H2o2 for every 2 oz. of CS.  or 4 drops 
per each 8 oz.  Stir it gently and let it sit about 15 minutes.  After 15 
minutes, add about 4 oz. of some flavored drink, We use Gatorade.  Drink 8 oz. 
gradually during the morning.  At about 3 PM, beginin drinking the other 8 oz. 
also gradually.

  This will not work over night, it is a rather slow process, but it is 
definately worth the wait.  Within four months, my friend no longer walks with 
her cane.  She did not have the injections to kill the nerves.  She is feeling 
like a new person.  It is quite a dramatic turn around. 

  Be well,

  Nancy

- Original Message - 

From: Medwith, Robert 

To: 'cs' 

Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 1:43 PM

Subject: CS>Fibroyalgia

 

Has any one had success treating Fibroyalgia with CS 
I have read this can be caused by aspertin which is  low cal items 
My wife has since stopped eating any thing with aspertine in it 
Very little seems to be known about this ailment 
I would appreciate any help from treatment to information sources 

  Thanks 
Bob 

Re: CS>HepC attn:mariano delise

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi mars larz, I would like to send a message off list, send me your email 
address,
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: mars larz 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>HepC attn:mariano delise


   

   MARIANO DELISE wrote: 

I firmly believe you need to be agressive with something like HepC. My
experience with many of my friends with serious iliness like MS, Lupus,
fibromyalgia and crohns have all used the same routine, and have all gotten
better. We all drink 8 oz. of 10 ppm CS twice a day (drink 8 oz. slowly in
the AM, and the other 8 oz. slowly beginnig at 3PM. I also firmly believe
adding 1 drop of H2o2 per 2 oz. of CS will increase the curing ability of
the CS. Let the CS stand about 15 minutes after you've added the H2o2.
Then add somthing to it. I add Gatorade. Also, have patience! It is a
rather slow process, but it is definatelyworth the wait.
Be well,
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "glenn guthrie" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: CS>HepC


> Anyone have experience or insight into a possible protocol for chronic
HepC?
> All sincere comm! en! ts appreciated as this is a serious condition. At
least
> one consideration would be the effect on the liver. We are hoping to
avoid
> the conventional treatment route, but that may be the way to go. If so,
> anyone know about the use of silver with the conventional treatment? I am
> reviewing the archives.
>
>
>
> I have hep-c and just started taking cs only about  a month ago i have no 
symptoms of the disease so i can't tell if the cs is working until i get a 
viral load test. anyway..   how long did the people you know with hep 
-c take cs ? how long did it take before they saw a drop in their viral loads? 
where do you get H2o2?  and what does gatorade have in it that increases the 
absorbtion of cs?

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CS>sea silver

[MARIANO DELISE]

Has anyone heard of sea silver?  improved_your_hea...@2cute.biz 

Re: CS>sea silver

[MARIANO DELISE]

What kind of store do you have?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:40 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>sea silver


  Nancy, 

  Some of my customers have asked me about it. They all seem to really like it. 
I'm thinking about selling it in my store. 

  Paul 

   MARIANO DELISE wrote: 

Has anyone heard of sea silver?  improved_your_hea...@2cute.biz 




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Re: CS>Testimony

[MARIANO DELISE]

This is OK for most people, but every so often that amount would be too much if 
a person is loaded with virus, etc.  I have known two so far out of about 30 
people so I always recommend to start with 2-3 oz. twice a day and work up 
doubling it everyday.  I've also found everyone of the 30 or so that I have 
talked to have found 8 oz. twice a day to give great results.  Just a 
suggestion.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Testimony


  Mary Lee, 

  I just jumped right in with a quart/day. 

  Paul 





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Re: CS>Tylosin

[MARIANO DELISE]

Why are you afraid of the H2o2?  How much were you using?  I would trust the 
H2o2 very sparingly rather than a drug  I use 1 drop 3% H2o2 for each 2 oz. 
of 10ppm cs.  Let it stand about 15 minures.  By this time I believe, the 
peroxide has made the cs much, much smaller particles and has evaporated out of 
the csNancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robb Allen 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:21 AM
  Subject: CS>Tylosin


  Hi to everyone.I've been on silver now for about a year for my 
Rheumatoid Arthritis...I"ve a tremendous improvement, however CS seems to 
do alot more to clear up my bloodstream than it does to kill Mycoplasma already 
living in my joints.  I was trying H202 for a while..and even though it seems 
to help alot with the pain...{I don't know why}  it sorta scares me.  I've been 
readin alot here lately about tylosin...{usually a drug for animals}...I'm 
not sure if there is a human version or not...from what I've been reading 
this stuff is supposed to really wipe out mycoplasma in a hurryorally 
it is not quite as effective as IM.  I am thinking very seriously about trying 
this to rid myself of the last 10% of my arthritis.  I've owned and operated a 
farm for my entire life and it is well known that if you have a hog that is 
sick and down from arthritis, Tylosin will clear it up in a hurry...why do 
they not do this for humans?...I've seen the list of what it kills and it 
is a vast list.almost as big as CS itself.  I wish there was a way for me 
to get the CS deeper into my joints where it could do the job becuase I know it 
kills what I have.  When I quit taking it for a break..and then start 
again..I have a herx reaction for about the first week..and then some 
major improvement.and then it levels off leaving me much better than 
before.but still with the critters living in my joints...Tylosin may be 
my answer..?.I don't know.still reading hereRobb

Re: CS>Tylosin

[MARIANO DELISE]

I use the "stuff" I get at the supermarket.  It's already 3% which is perfect.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeannie 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Tylosin


  Is this full strength H2o2, or the stuff you buy at the supermarket? 
  Jeannie 

  MARIANO DELISE wrote: 

Why are you afraid of the H2o2?  How much were you using?  I would trust 
the H2o2 very sparingly rather than a drug  I use 1 drop 3% H2o2 for each 2 
oz. of 10ppm cs.  Let it stand about 15 minures.  By this time I believe, the 
peroxide has made the cs much, much smaller particles and has evaporated out of 
the csNancy 
  - Original Message -
  From: Robb Allen
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:21 AM
  Subject: CS>Tylosin
   Hi to everyone.I've been on silver now for about a year for my 
Rheumatoid Arthritis...I"ve a tremendous improvement, however CS seems to 
do alot more to clear up my bloodstream than it does to kill Mycoplasma already 
living in my joints.  I was trying H202 for a while..and even though it seems 
to help alot with the pain...{I don't know why}  it sorta scares me.  I've been 
readin alot here lately about tylosin...{usually a drug for animals}...I'm 
not sure if there is a human version or not...from what I've been reading 
this stuff is supposed to really wipe out mycoplasma in a hurryorally 
it is not quite as effective as IM.  I am thinking very seriously about trying 
this to rid myself of the last 10% of my arthritis.  I've owned and operated a 
farm for my entire life and it is well known that if you have a hog that is 
sick and down from arthritis, Tylosin will clear it up in a hurry...why do 
they not do this for humans?...I've seen the list of what it kills and it 
is a vast list.almost as big as CS itself.  I wish there was a way for me 
to get the CS deeper into my joints where it could do the job becuase I know it 
kills what I have.  When I quit taking it for a break..and then start 
again..I have a herx reaction for about the first week..and then some 
major improvement.and then it levels off leaving me much better than 
before.but still with the critters living in my joints...Tylosin may be 
my answer..?.I don't know.still reading hereRobb
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  Jeannie McReynolds 
  Oregon Coast 

Re: CS>re: silver toxicity

[MARIANO DELISE]

Three teaspoons a day will never hurt you.  Our ancesters used to get silver
naturally through the food they ate.  Just like everything else, vitamins,
iron, calcium, etc., These things have been depleted from the soil so we
must take supplements.  Just include a small amontof silver to your other
supp[lememts.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Jack Dayton" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>re: silver toxicity


>
>
> > From: paula bomer 
> > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:16:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>re: silver toxicity
> > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 13:16:46 -0700
> >
> > I have been taking a fancy brand (immunogenics silver)
> > on and off-- about 3 teaspoons a day, most recently
> > for about a week--that is the longest time. I am
>  worried that I am dehydrated? Should I be? What should
>  I do?
> ***
> The answer seems rather obvious --DRINK MORE WATER!!!
>
> Jack
>
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CS>CS & Bones

[MARIANO DELISE]

Help everyone.  My friend has been very willing to use CS, but his problem is a 
staph infection in his bone.  CS can't get to this infection.  Does anyone have 
a suggestion how he can get the CS to the staph infection?
Nancy

Re: CS>CS/H2O2

[MARIANO DELISE]

CS/H2O2I have been using the 3 % I get from the pharmacy for over 8 months.  I 
add 1 drop per 2 oz. CS.  I shake it gently and let it sit for about 15 
minutes.  It interacts with the silver immediately and after the 15 minutes, 
about all you have left is H2o.  I have had absolutely no ill effects from this 
routine,  but I have had astounding results with the intensified benefit of the 
CS.  It is still a little bitter, but I add some Gatorade to it and off I go.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Dayton 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:56 PM
  Subject: CS>CS/H2O2





From: Jeannie 
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 21:03:53 -0700


  OK, but I was told I shouldn't use that internally, since it had other 
chemicals in it.  I should go to the health food store and buy the food grade 
stuff.  I did, but it turned out to be a whole great deal stronger (I forget 
how much.)  It would make a lot of difference which one I took drops of in my 
CS!  So you are saying it is the 3%? OK.  great.  The other tastes too strong, 
even with only 3-4 drops.

  
  Hi Jeannie.

  I take it back, what I told you was based on what 
  I have read on this list (Connie) , but I spent some
  time on the 'net and I withdraw what I said.
  You are right, 3%  does have chemicals in it,
  and should not be ingested.  
  There are pure forms available --  a search with Google
  for H2O2 will offer more than you will ever want to know
  about peroxide.
  You might want to ask Connie where she bought the
  3% that she used.

  Jack 

Re: CS>what countries we on the list our from

[MARIANO DELISE]

3. Chicago, Il  Nancy DeLise
- Original Message - 
From: "Reid Harvey" 
To: "silver list" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:03 AM
Subject: CS>what countries we on the list our from


> Bill,
> I'm adding my name to yours since this is easy enough to do.  Also I may
> be the only one who lives in Nepal:
> 1.  Mexico,  Bill Missett
> 2.  Nepal,  Reid Harvey
> Now there are people from two countries! (joke)
> Reid
> 
> Bill Missett said:
> Mike:
> 
> Do you know how many nations are represented on the Silver List?  If
> not,
> can we take a poll to find out where we are from, in terms of nation of
> residence?  Or is that considered intruding.
> 


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Re: CS>MS info and Silver...

[MARIANO DELISE]

  - Original Message - 
  From: SilverMedicine.org 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:04 PM
  Subject: CS>MS info and Silver...


  Nancy:


  In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 ounces 
twice daily.  I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you remember 
what brand?  
I got it from Smith silver.  I read a book entitled How to beat ms and 
what your doctor didn't tell you by Nadine Wooley.  The author sells CS under 
the name Smith silver.  It is made by equipment purchased from C S Prosystems 
10 PPM

  When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe 
the process or machine you used? 
   I purchased the Max pro system from C S Prosystems.

  I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002...  When 
did the writing first begin?  Or at least, about when did the silver start?  
About August 2000? 
   That is correct

  Can you confirm, just for the "record", that the product used via IV was 
Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics?  Were they doing 5 ml infusions?  
   It is Argentum 23 that was used in the IV and they used the suggestions 
sent with the CS.  I'm not sure about ml, I know the first infusion was 40cc by 
volume, the second was 50cc and the third was 60 cc

  I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a 
copy of a before and after MRI?   
  `I have an MRI from 1990, my original diagnosis, I had another in 2/02.  
They said the could not compare to well because of all the equipment changes in 
12 years.  There were more lesions (I knew that since I was progressing 
rapidly), but there were no recent lesions.  I had a third MRI 9/02.  There 
again were no new lesions.

  And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS?  
  I had symptoms since 1962 but I was not officially diagnosed until the 
MRI in 1990.

  Sorry about all the questions!
  Very Happy to help.  I hope it can someday help others.

  An amazing journey indeed.
  That is an understatement.  It has changed my life.  Nancy

  Warm Regards,

  Jason Eaton

Re: CS>MS info and Silver...

[MARIANO DELISE]

Hi Paul,
You are right, I have No new lesions.  I have not been able to get anyone to 
compare the old MRI to the new one to prove the lesions are actually gone.  I 
have all of the copies and I am still trying to get this verified.   There 
hav;e definately been no new lesions for about 2 years.
 
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>MS info and Silver...


  Nancy, 

  I'm a little confused here. In one of your posts you wrote: 

  >I have had IV therapy recently.  I HAD MS, it is gone.  Originaly I just 
drank CS, It did wonders.  It killed the MS mycoplaysma.  I then began to drink 
the CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, and the myelin began to 
repair.  I finally tried 
  IV infusions and after five weekly IV drips, I no longer have any symptoms 
  from the MS.

  >Nancy

  When I talked to you on the phone I thought you said that the MRI showed no 
"new" lesions. I don't remember you saying anything about the old lesions 
healing. This is a very critical issue so I would appreciate you clearing this 
up. 

  Thanks, 

  Paul 

   "SilverMedicine.org"  wrote: 

Nancy:


In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 
ounces twice daily.  I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you 
remember what brand?

When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you describe 
the process or machine you used?

I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002...  When 
did the writing first begin?  Or at least, about when did the silver start?  
About August 2000?

Can you confirm, just for the "record", that the product used via IV was 
Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics?  Were they doing 5 ml infusions?

I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD ) a 
copy of a before and after MRI?

And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS?

Sorry about all the questions!

An amazing journey indeed.

Warm Regards,

Jason Eaton









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Re: CS>MS info and Silver...

[MARIANO DELISE]

Paul, 
I have NO symptoms.  My friend Nadine has had enough time between her MRI 
to see that some of her lesions are gone.  I am 100 % sure some of my lesions 
are gone, but my MRI was taken too long ago and I have not found anyone to 
compare the 12 year old MRI to my more recent one.  I keep trying, and I will 
keep trying, but no one will compare them.  I am trying to figure if I can do 
it myself.  I will certainly let you know.  
For the last two years every symptom I had since 1962 has manifested itself 
for a short time, then within 2days to 2 weeks the symptoms are completely 
gone, and I have feeling, etc. that I may not have had in at least 10 years. I 
call these "healing crisis".  That is the CS has found it's way into the 
lesions and as the mycoplasma is dying, the nerves at that point are disturbed 
by the dying mycoplasma.  As they finally die off the feeling or whatever has 
returned. 
The MRI did show that NONE of the lesions that are still there are current 
or look new.  They are all old.  If having an MRI was not quite so expensive, I 
can assure you I would have the proof you want, but I can't get new ones often 
enough to show what I want.  
I do understand your concern, and I too want to get the truth out. 
Two years ago I could barely walk, I could not even go up one step, I had to 
wear a vest with cold packs just to get through the day, summer was unbearable, 
I was stuck inside most of the hot summer. I could not turn over in bed without 
great difficulty, It took me 5-8 minutes to get out of bed and get my legs to 
work.  This past summer I walked over two miles in the hot sun on the sand on 
the beach in a bathing suit with no trouble what so ever.  I use my friend's 
hot tub on a regular basis with no problem Before my diagnosis I went into my 
brothers hot tub while I was house sitting.  No one was around and I almost 
drowned because I had absolutely no control.  My enitre body was like putty.  
I'm not sure how I managed to get out of it, but I did crawl out and laid on 
the floor almost an hour before I could even sit up)  Any other specific 
questions I can answer?  Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul Ladendorf 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 12:52 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>MS info and Silver...


  Nancy,

  >I have not been able to get anyone to compare the old MRI to the new one to 
prove the >lesions are actually gone.

  >>I then began to drink the CS with H2o2 and the lesions began to go away, 
and >>the myelin began to repair.  

  So you don't know if "the lesions began to go away and the myelin began to 
repair"? I'm sorry but this is how hype starts. For the sake of all interested 
in colloidal silver I would appreciate it if you didn't make claims like this 
unless you have some kind of proof. The people at Natural Immunogenics told me 
about your story a couple months ago and I'm sure now there are others who 
think that cs can heal lesions and MS. My next question is: Do you really not 
have any MS symptoms as you claim? I'm not trying to be harsh its just that I'm 
extremely interested in the truth and don't want to be deceived.

  Thanks,

  Paul

  >Nancy

  When I talked to you on the phone I thought you said that the MRI showed 
no "new" lesions. I don't remember you saying anything about the old lesions 
healing. This is a very critical issue so I would appreciate you clearing this 
up. 

  Thanks, 

  Paul 

   "SilverMedicine.org"  wrote: 

Nancy:


In your writing, you state that you began taking colloidal silver @ 2 
ounces twice daily.  I'm assuming you purchased this silver premade... Do you 
remember what brand?

When you started using your colloidal silver ( week 14? ), can you 
describe the process or machine you used?

I see that the second section in your writing is dated August 2002...  
When did the writing first begin?  Or at least, about when did the silver 
start?  About August 2000?

Can you confirm, just for the "record", that the product used via IV 
was Argentum 23 by Natural Immunogenics?  Were they doing 5 ml infusions?

I don't suppose you happen to have ( or could possibly get from the MD 
) a copy of a before and after MRI?

And, when were you initially diagnosed with MS?

Sorry about all the questions!

An amazing journey indeed.

Warm Regards,

Jason Eaton









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Re: CS>Sea Silver radio ad

[MARIANO DELISE]

Why are we touting sea silver when CS does a much superior job for much less
money?  Certainly if you drink 12-16 oz of CS slowly all day long, you will
great results with most auto immune diseases.
Nancy
- Original Message -
From: "Roxanne" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Sea Silver radio ad


>
> Hi Catherine,
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 02:25:38 -0500, "C Creel" 
> wrote:
>
> > There is one other product I do recommend to people whose primary
> >health challenge is long histories of depression, anxiety, bipolar
> disorder,
> >etc.
>
> Well, what is it??  :)
>
> -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
>
>
> ///Yes I would like to know, I stopped taking meds over a year ago, and
> doctors both pdoc's and internist refuses to see me because I stopped.
> Long, long story.  I still have problems, but consider myself doing much
> better without their medicines.
>
> Roxanne
>
>
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Re: CS>Black CS!

[MARIANO DELISE]

Don't throw the black CS away,  Topically it has many many features.  Burns,
scrapes, cuts, you names it It will heal quicker with CS puton topically.  I
also like to have cut flowers around my house (especially in the winter).  A
little CS in the water will keep those flowers fresh longer, and when they
finally do die, the water does not smell!!!  I also wrap cheese in a clean
cloth wet with cs.  This will keep the green stuff away a long time if you
buy cheese in bulk.  You can also spray it on anything you want to purify.
The uses are endless.
Nancy
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From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:30 AM
Subject: CS>Black CS!


> I'm new at trying to make my own CS with my SOTA silver pulser, and last
> night I fell asleep with the unit running.  This morning, it's very dark
> brownish black.  I know I won't be drinking this stuff, but before I throw
it
> out, is there any other use I might make of it, or did I just ruin it?
>
> Linda
>
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CS>looing for Susan

[MARIANO DELISE]

I am trying to reach Susan Garrett.  You had a message awhile ago, and I'd love 
to "talk" off line.  Please contact me: nancymi...@prodigy.net

Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

[MARIANO DELISE]

Lupus is an auto immune disease.I have a hard time believing all these 
millions of perfectly formed bodies are "attacking themselves for no reason"  
This does not make any sense at all.  It is my understanding  the mycoplasma 
that is hidden in your own cells is the cause of the attack on yourself.   If 
you kill the mycoplasma with the CS, you are in effect stopping the disease.  
I'm convinced most auto immune disease are caused by the mycoplasma "hiding" in 
your own cells.  So you see, Your body is not attacking itself, it is attacking 
the mycoplasma.  I have had two people who had Lupus drink my CS.  After 
several months, they have no longer had any "attacks".   
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 9:13 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?


  "f.capezzuto" wrote: 
Depending on the cause of the Lupus.  Lupus itself is not a single disease. 
 It's not a disease that has one cause.  Some of the things that can cause 
Lupus are: - Iron Overload.- Infections like HIV and Lyme Disease.- Reactions 
to drugs.- Genetic metabolic disorder.- Reaction to a chemical, like DDT or a 
pesticide.- Vaccine reaction. Even a food allergy to bread can cause Lupus like 
symptoms.  Diagnoses usually happens after they find a "butterfly rash" and 
elevated ANA, and SED rate. Now, with CS, to be honest.  It won't work for all 
cases for Lupus for a cure.  Like If you have a bread allergy, or a reaction to 
a drug.  You can take CS till the cows come home, and it won't do you much good 
as far as a cure.  It may help with opportunistic infections, since people that 
have Lupus, usually have lowered immune systems. Now, most cases of Lupus are 
not caused by genetics.  Most cases of Lupus are caused by environmental 
factors.  And most of the environmental factors that I have found that can 
cause Lupus, are mostly due to infections like Lyme, HIV, Hep C, microplasma 
and stealth viruses. If that case of Lupus, is cause by a pathogen, then CS 
should be able to kill off the invador is administered properly.  I have heard 
of HIV cases being put into remission from IV CS. So yes, depending on the 
cause, a percentage of Lupus victoms can be cured.

  It is my understanding that lupus is an autoimmune response to assaults as 
you list above.  Thus one can stop the assault, and the lupus may stop 
advancing, but as long as the immune system is attacking ones own tissue, the 
CS will be of limited value.  I wonder if CMO would help reset the immune 
system for lupus. That is why I had said earlier that CS might be a great 
preventative, but not necessarily an effective cure. 

  Marshall 

CS>Fw: More blondes...........

[MARIANO DELISE]

>Date Sent: 29 Oct 2002 09:21 PM
>
> >1. Why does it take longer to build a blonde snowman as opposed
> > >to a regular one?
> > >(You have to hollow out the head.)
> > >2. Why won't they hire blondes as > pharmacists?
> > >(They keep breaking the prescription bottles in the typewriters.)
> > >3. Hear about the blonde that got an AM radio?
> > >(It took her a month to realize she could play it in the afternoon.)
> > >4. What happened to the blonde ice hockey team?
> > >(They drowned during Spring Training.)
> > >5. Why did the blonde scale the chain-link fence?
> > >(To see what was on the other side.)
> > >6. How did the blonde die drinking milk?
> > >(The cow stepped on her.)
> > >7. How did the blonde burn her nose?
> > >(Bobbing for French fries.)
> > >8. Why do blondes have more fun?
> > >(They're easier to amuse.)
> > >9. What do you call 20 blondes in a freezer?
> > >(Frosted flakes.)
> > >10. Why can't blondes put in light bulbs?
> > >(They keep breaking them with their hammers.)
> > >11. Did you hear about the blonde that shot an
> > >arrow into the air?
> > >(She missed.)
> > >12. What is it when a blonde blows into another blonde's ear?
> > >(Data transfer.)
> > >13. Why did the blonde resolve to have only three children?
> > >(Because she read that one child out of every four born was
> > >Chinese.)
> > >14. Why did the blonde put make-up on her forehead?
> > >(She wanted everyone to know that she was able to make up
> > >her mind.)
> > >15. Why did the blonde ask her friends to save their burned-out
> > >light bulbs?
> > >(She needed them for the darkroom she was building.)
> > >16. Why are Asians so smart?
> > >(No blondes.)
> > >17. What is the biggest advantage to marrying a blonde?
> > >(You get to park in the Handicapped Zone)
>
>
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Re: CS>CS Elimination

[MARIANO DELISE]

The two types of MS would be relapsing/remitting and the second is
progressive.  I have had both relapsing remitting for 34 years which then
became progressive in 1995.  I agree with everything below..
Nancy DeLise
- Original Message -
From: "Trem" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS Elimination


> Hi List,
>
> There's been some discussion about the effectiveness if CS on MS recently.
> Let me throw one anecdotal story out for those who may want to consider
> using CS to treat it.
>
> Apparently there are two types of MS.  One type has bad bouts associated
> with it and then apparent spontaneous but not quite full recovery.  So the
> bouts are
> very bad but they do not stay that way.  Over time each bout leaves the
> person a little further down.  I have a customer with progressive non
> remissive type MS (type 2).  They go steadily downhill and do not recover.
> It is a steady slide.
>
> This person (female) was an R.N. and was diagnosed about 4 1/2 years ago
at
> age 26.  She is now 30.  She had deteriorated to the stage of using a
> walker, was incontinent, was very weak on her left side and had no control
> of her right foot.  She had been unable to work for a few years.
>
> In February 1, 2002 she started taking CS made with one of our units.  She
> started at 32 ounces a day.  She reduced that amount after 6 weeks to 16
> ounces a day because she was experiencing  what she considered a recovery.
> She regained the strength on her left side, her right foot became
completely
> usable,
> she stopped using the walker and her incontinence went away except for an
> occasional slip.  She then returned to work as a nurse.
>
> She has been on the same regimen since then except she says she began to
> backslide occasionally and forget to take the CS, thinking it wasn't
> necessary
> because she felt so good or for whatever reason.  Whenever she stopped or
> didn't take enough she says  she could feel it beginning to recur so she
is
> now
> back to taking it on a regular basis.
>
> She has not had an MRI since starting the CS but I understand she will
> be having one in February of 2003 to see how the lesions are doing (or
not).
> I expect to hear of the results and will post them when I hear the
results.
>
> She used a PWT meter to determine the strength.  She was using the SG6
>  and was making it at about 15 PPM.
>
> I feel the upshot here istake plenty.not a tablespoon at a time.
> Every person
> that has told me of their recovery from life threatening diseases use
large
> amounts.
> And I can knock your socks off with some of the first hand accounts in my
> arsenal.
> All anecdotal of course
>
> I have many such anecdotal stories and all of them involved an aggressive
> regimen.
> My personal opinion is that a small amount taken daily is probably a good
> preventative
>  but will not be effective when one has to really get after a disease.  I
> have
> been taking an ounce a day for about 5 years and haven't had any colds,
flu
> or
> infections.  However if I were to become ill the first thing I would do is
> go all out
> and use it as drinking water until the bugs had disappeared.
>
> I hope this helps anyone that's interested.
>
> Trem
>
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CS>aplolgy

[MARIANO DELISE]

To my friends on the silver list,
Very late last night I accidently "sent" an email to thelist that I 
intended to send to my "new blond" niece, Sue (silver coes just before Sue in 
my address book).  It was intended to tease her about her new hair do.  I am 
extemely sorry for this error.  
I consider you all my very good friends.  I have learned so much from you 
all, and I would never want to offend any one of you.  If I have offended any 
one of you I am very, very sorry.  Please accept my apology.  I am so angry at 
myself, and I have beat myself up all night.  
Again, I consider you my CS family.  Please forgive me.
Nancy

Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

[MARIANO DELISE]

FYI   Alzheimer's disease is an auto immune disease caused by micoplasma.  I
know for a fact that CS helps MS, Lupus, Croans, fibromyalgia and many other
auto immune diseases caused by micoplasma.   It would sure be good to know
if CS would also do the same for Alzheimer's???  It would make sense
Nancy

- Original Message -
From: "Jannette McKoy-Abel" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?


>
>   There is a theory that the brain requires a lot of magnesium for proper
> functioning, and that many Alzheimer's victims are very deficient in
> magnesium.  In some instances, aluminum can be used as a substitute for
> magnesium, so the magnesium deprived brain draws the aluminum from the
> various body tissues in order to substitute it for the needed magnesium -
> hence the wide incidence of high aluminum levels in the brains of
> Alzheimer's Disease sufferers.  This might also explain why some get
> Alzheimer's disease, and others do not (baring genetic factors), in
> seemingly similar situations.  Interestingly, in the US, aprox. 95% of the
> population has some degree of magnesium deficiency.
>
> BTW, more than 50% of the magnesium found naturally in many raw foods is
> destroyed by heat (even blanching vegetables destroys 80% in some cases),
so
> unless you eat a predominantly raw diet, a magnesium supplement is
> advisable, even if you regularly eat a magnesium-rich diet. And take some
> Cilantro!
>
> Jannette
>
>
>
> > I love English tea, and learned from my supplier that tea plants pull in
> > a lot of aluminum from the soil.   I was curious about this apropos
> > aluminum and Alzheimer's disease.   I still drink my tea, understanding
> > that aluminum (aluminium to British types) is everywhere.   Whether it
> > gets into the brain via foodstuffs, I do not know.  Whether cilantro can
> > scavenge it from the brain, as Dr. Y. Omura claims, I do not know, but
> > believe.
> >
> > JBB
>
>
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Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?

[MARIANO DELISE]

Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm
it's quite an eye opener.
Nancy

- Original Message -
From: "C Creel" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:44 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?


> Dear Nancy,
>
>   You said:
>
> <   I know for a fact that CS helps MS, Lupus, Croans, fibromyalgia and many
> otherauto immune diseases caused by micoplasma.   >>
>
>
>   I think you are jumping the gun with this statement.  For instance,
> Using PCR and genetic probes, it has been demonstrateed that between
> 30 and 35% of CFS patients and 4 to 8% of healthy controls carry
> the Mycoplasma fermentans genome in their peripheral blood mononuclear
> cells.  This does not account for the other 65-70% of people diagnosed
> as having CFS.
>
>   It would probably be more accurate to see mycoplasma as
> opportunistic bacteria  that takes advantage of the body being in
> a weakened state.  It may serve as a cofactor in the induction of
> cytokines and other immune abnormalities found in CFS, but is
> by no means the cause of CFS.
>
> Regards,
> Catherine
>
>
>
>
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