Re: CS>Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE"

[Ode Coyote]

The chart covering the last 500 million years shows that earth has not had
polar ice caps for about 60% of that time span.[obviously because there
were too many people driving cars.. and  mastodon farts ended the last
ice age ]
We are currently in a "cool period" which vary in length by thousands of
years and it could go up OR down at this point.
Climate changes just fine without usand we can't even really predict
the weekly 'weather' accurately, much less recurring dry cycles on the
central USA plains.

On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 9:12 PM Max  wrote:

> man adds 3% of Co2,  apparently the earth is able to absorb this
> difference, but the problem is that we have reduced the life forms that do
> balance the temp.  The heat engine of earth is driven by the living
> system.   Whales, plankton, trees, thus clouds etc.  Add in soot and
> changing albedo.  Whats left is a manic leveraging of the climate meme for
> profit.   One must zoom out and see where we are in the long term...still
> coming out of an ice age,  with solar effects also.   Climate is the least
> of our problems for now
> On 10/17/2021 6:03 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>
> Mary,
>
> "The media and the medical system must comply with the mass extermination of
> humans, the only answer to climate change."  "Any one else think like this?"
>
>
> Yes Mary, I think a lot like you, and I'm a scientist who has been 
> researching climate change for the
> last 10+ years.
>
>
> Civilization is a heat engine.  TPTB figure to depopulate the planet by some 
> 90% plus and thus
> reduce the heat engine to manageable temperatures.
>
> TPTB are about 20 years late with this Agenda. Mass Extinction has arrived 
> long since.
>
> I give homo sapiens on this planet only a few more years.  If that!  Good 
> luck.
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: CS>What Is A Vaccine & More Serious Concerns

[Ode Coyote]

There is NO FDA Approved COVID Vaccine in the U.S. & Here’s The Proof
Danielle Marie Danielle Marie October 12, 2021

It wasn’t too long ago that social media erupted into another massive
debate on whether the FDA did approve the COVID-19 vaccine. Those who were
in favor of the vaccine were elated to see that the experiment was now a
fact, but others such as myself were skeptical.

So many of us read the official FDA papers before we all came to the same
conclusion that they did not, in fact, approve the COVID vaccine.

As it turns out after careful analysis of the material on the FDA site all
they did was approve something called Comirnaty and they gave the COVID
vaccine an extended emergency use authorization.

Those who published this news on their sites and social media accounts
received tons of backlash saying that we didn’t understand the papers, but
we did.

We read them carefully and methodically to ensure that what was being
reported was accurate, and today all that did that work then stands
vindicated today.

Sen. Ron Johnson went on the record with Fox News saying the EXACT same
thing we initially reported.

Quote:
SEN. RON JOHNSON: We do not have an FDA–approved vaccine being
administered in the U.S. The FDA played a bait and switch. They approved
the Comirnaty version of Pfizer drugs. It’s not available in the U.S. They
even admit it. I sent them a letter three days later going “What are you
doing?” What they did is they extended the emergency use authorization for
the Pfizer drug vaccine that’s available in the U.S., here that’s more than
30 days later, they haven’t asked that very simple question. If you’re
saying that the Pfizer drug is the same as the Comirnaty, why didn’t you
provide FDA approval on that? So, there’s not an FDA-approved drug and, of
course, they announced it so they could push through these mandates so that
people actually think, “Oh, OK now these things are FDA approved.” They are
not and again, maybe they should be, but the FDA isn’t telling me why.

Sen. Ron Johnson: There is not an FDA approved C0VID v⍺ccine in the US.
pic.twitter.com/b3KinU227Q

— LADY AMINA (@The_AlphaX2) October 2, 2021

Johnson explains the FDA approved the Comirnaty version that’s not
available in the US. pic.twitter.com/NKGSBQUbKf

— Luiz (@Luizmd7) October 3, 2021

Sen. Ron Johnson: There is not an FDA approved COVID vaccine in the US

Johnson explains the FDA approved the Comirnaty version that’s not
available in the US

“The FDA played a bait and switch.”https://t.co/Imm8O3i4Pa
pic.twitter.com/qFWlkysgVS

— Grant Taylor (@grantltaylor) October 3, 2021

And here:

FDA approved?

According to Sen. Ron Johnson there is not an FDA approved C0VID
v⍺ccine in the US. pic.twitter.com/vmrf3Vhzti

— Wes (@loafinit) October 8, 2021

Not only that, but one report says Pfizer has hired 22 separate lobbying
firms!

Why?

To get what they want, of course.

Pfizer has now hired 22 separate lobbying firms, all in Washington, DC,
to craft drug policy in the United States.

Yes, that's the accurate #. TWENTY TWO lobbying firms.

Tons of top Congressional staffers & fmr WH officials have been
recruited to push Pfizer's agenda in DC.

— Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com (@JordanSchachtel) October 3,
2021

GET THE TRUTH OUT!

Don’t let them force you to take an experimental vaccine!

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:43 AM Rick  wrote:

>
> What Is A Vaccine & More Serious Concerns
> https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html
>
>

Re: CS>What Is A Vaccine & More Serious Concerns

[Ode Coyote]

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Screw you Google and  STOP CHARGING ME !
Ode


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On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:43 AM Rick  wrote:

>
> What Is A Vaccine & More Serious Concerns
> https://rumble.com/vn4425-dr.-ardis-interviews-dr.-simone-gold.html
>
>

Re: CS> Who Knew II

[Ode Coyote]

Natural News is like Alex Jones...not always true and often very
exaggerated if it is.
But other sources back this up in a more realistic way.
Ode

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 6:15 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
>
>
> https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-10-nearly-all-covid-deaths-september-fully-vaccinated.html
>

Re: CS>MMS ANDREAS KALCKER

[Ode Coyote]

MMS IS CDS...same thing different marketing name

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 5:44 PM Da Darrin  wrote:

> Great to hear that it worked but from what you said it looks like you
> made mms not cds.
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 2:31 PM Rick  wrote:
> >
> > I am here today to tell you all that CDS worked for me. After
> researching, reading testimonies, watching videos that included the
> government/big pharma lies about it being bleach (I don't even have
> training in chemistry and I knew this was an obvious lie).
> > So I got my Sodium Chlorite and a 50% Citric Acid solution as an
> activator.
> >
> > I read what a couple here wrote and I reviewed the instructions from the
> guide and another document and a few websites too. Then I did just one drop
> of each in a clean dry glass, mixed, smelled the gas, (not horrible) and
> then put 4oz of filtered ZeroWater in and drank it down (taste also not
> horrible). I did this only once for two nights and my intensely painful,
> I'll call it leaky bladder was well the following morning when I awoke! Now
> I had been experiencing this daily for two months solid. As today's society
> has me avoiding doctors and prescription drugs (which never worked for my
> mother in her similar situation to mine) it was finding CDS and how long it
> has been around that got me to researching it for myself.
> >
> > It has now been just a little less than a full week and I'm almost
> joyous still because this was very embarrassing for me and I could not go
> out in public because there was no warning and I had no control over when
> it would happen. And every time, there was a burning pain associated with
> it. Working was also prohibited unless I could work from home.
> >
> > I want to thank Greg for your testimony, and I forgot if Linda, Jenny,
> or Elizabeth also mentioned it here.
> >
> > Was wondering if CDS along with DMSO might work as a topical on Skin
> Tags? I remember in one of my first videos on it, I think that I heard a
> woman testify to both skin tags and unexpected elimination of her own leaky
> bladder. Greg, do you have any experience with this in your family? But in
> the video, there was not talk of DMSO which helps facilitate the CDS to
> pass through the skin. So in that way as a topical application similar to
> using CS in a gel.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 5:39 PM V  wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks to everyone sharing info on CDS!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 3:19 PM Greg Kentwell, 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes, however, he does not recommend taking activated MMS. He strongly
> advocates chlorine dioxide solution (CDS). This is the gas produced when
> MMS ( sodium chlorite) is activated with an acid ( ideally 4% hydrochloride
> acid) and captured in water.  There are videos available on methods to
> produce this.
> >>> Dr Andreas Kalcker has researched this very thoroughly.
> >>> theuniversalantidote.com is a great documentary to learn more about
> The power of chlorine dioxide.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 24 Sep 2021, at 2:59 am, pal joey  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> Just passing it on. Andreas Kalcker,  was a staunch skeptic of mms,
> but now a big fan, and serious researcher. https://andreaskalcker.com/en/
>
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Re: CS>more covid

[Ode Coyote]

The statistical charts out of Israel and Vermont tell the story..no experts
needed.
Ode

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 8:02 AM Max  wrote:

> lets see, two vaccine experts, including the guy who invented the mRNA vax
> say that evolutionary pressure from the vaccinated is driving the covid
> epidemic, similar to how antibiotics with less than 100% effectiveness
> create antibiotic resistant germs. Cyndiann says these experts are
> wrongwho should I believe?   This is the dilemma.  I mean she was right
> with that paper that said covid is a two stage disease, sub-dividable into
> three, four or five stagesand that everyone has a robust immune
> response, plenty of antibodies and defeats the virus in about a week.  She
> was right that severe covid is not caused by the virus but a dis-regulated
> immune response.
>
>
> On 10/11/2021 4:11 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
>
> It is not the vaccinated causing the problems, it's you idiots that won't
> get it. Thanks to you we now have the Delta version which is way more
> contagious and way more deadly. Just stop it, stop passing around fake
> news, wake the hell up and do the right thing. Your risks go way down by
> getting it.
>
> At the least stay out of stores and public places if you won't do the
> right thing so you don't kill people.
>
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 6:47 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> its the mass vaccination which is creating covid risk, not the
>> unvaccinated.its the same action that causes antibiotic resistant
>> germs. Evolutionary pressure
>>
>> interview with Robert Malone and Geert  Bossche
>> https://youtu.be/qP31cfD3YOY
>>
>>
>> best case scenario; vaxx kills five times as many as covid in over 65
>> group. Probably over a million vaxx deaths
>>
>> https://bit.ly/2YyUI7b
>>
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Re: CS>more covid

[Ode Coyote]

How the "Vax" works:

Once the mRNA [vaccine] gets inside your immune system cells, the factories
inside your cells use the mRNA to start making the SARS-CoV2 spike protein.
Not the entire virus but just the spike protein. Once spike protein is
made, the rest of your immune system is supposed to go, “WTH is this,” and
then mobilize a response against the spike proteins. This hopefully will
get your immune system to remember the spike protein and act quickly if and
when the real virus covered in spike proteins gets into your body.

[If the final  action is accomplished with your own antibodies, an antibody
test would be the same result whether it's naturally acquired or
'stimulated' by the Vax and NOT show if you've had the vaccine, or
not...and they want everyone to have the vaccine...for some 'reason'...but
why, if the antibodies are present, do the Vaxed people still have the
virus and the naturally acquired  immune people don't ?]

Humm…just an idea of what may be really going on. [Ode]

Just a THEORY, not FACTprobably...maybe...NO WAY.oh crap!  [take
your pick]

BUT….,these spike proteins are attaching themselves to your own cells,
possibly fooling your own immune system into believing that YOUR cells are
a virus and attacking THEMhence, clotted blood cells and inflammation
of organs for starters

But here’s a thing: [maybe]

The code produced spike proteins might not be PRECISELY the same as the
viral spikes…only similar…and the antibodies produced may prefer the ones
they were ‘specifically’ designed [coded]’ to attack over the, only
similar, viral spikes.

Now the coded spikes are attaching to body cells making the antibodies go
there and not to the virus, but the virus doesn’t have anywhere much to go
that isn’t already occupied and just floats around…..not making YOU sick
and not replicating very fast using whatever few unoccupied cells it does
find, but is still transmissible.

..and so now, you are testing positive for COVID and get a booster, which
gets used up the same way, requiring another booster…

Meanwhile, over time, your immune system is learning to see your own cells,
coated with the preferred ‘programmed’ spikes, as THE virus and starts
attacking THEM …and you get sick…not from the original COVID virus, but
from an auto-immune attack/manufactured/perhaps communicable “virus image”
that’s maybe being mistaken as [or just called] a variant.

So, get enough boosters and your immune system starts to think your entire
body is made of infected cells…and….maybe it IS in a way, by "vaccination
induced viral image infection. [ That LOOKS just like a foreign virus ]

So far, these induced spikes have not learned how to replicate themselves
like a PRION, but the more boosters you get…without knocking out the COVID
virus…the more spikes get made preventing you from feeling ill from
COVID…rather, from auto-immune issues…..but in the end …you still have COVID



On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 6:47 PM Max  wrote:

> its the mass vaccination which is creating covid risk, not the
> unvaccinated.its the same action that causes antibiotic resistant
> germs. Evolutionary pressure
>
> interview with Robert Malone and Geert  Bossche
> https://youtu.be/qP31cfD3YOY
>
>
> best case scenario; vaxx kills five times as many as covid in over 65
> group. Probably over a million vaxx deaths
>
> https://bit.ly/2YyUI7b
>
>
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Re: CS>Ode, vaporizer vs. humidifier.

[Ode Coyote]

Typically, a vaporizer heats up water and emits invisible 'water vapor'
which condenses in the air as steam...making a mist as the steam
cools.like with distillation..and impurities [like CS and other
minerals] are left behind.
A tea kettle on the wood stove.

A Humidifier simply moisturizes the air by any means.  A vaporizer is a
type of humidifier.

But what you want is a humidifier that physically "throws" water into the
air as a "mist" [rather than steam]
...a Mister for the Missus?
 An Atomizer would qualify as it sends water through a small orifice under
pressure...like a paint sprayer. [Older nebulizers use that principle using
an air compressor for the pressure ]
Very old mist producing humidifiers used a fast rotating wheel to 'sling'
water into the air.

An Ultrasonic Humidifier uses high frequency sound waves to finely divide
water into a mist.
 A room humidifier is a smaller version of a whole house humidifier.
Ultrasonic nebulisers are the same, only REALLY small.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:09 AM Linda Ellis  wrote:

> This is a very interesting report.  Can you help me understand the
> difference between a vaporizer and a humidifier?
>
> From: "Ode Coyote" <silverpuppy1...@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2021 7:52 am
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Are my posts being seen? Yes
>
>
>   yes
>
>
>   This from here, posted on PrepperNet
>
>
>
>
>   Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully
> vaxed husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill
> from COVID after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the
> hospital was full, but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]
>
>
>
> He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit
> up in bed and getting worse.
>
>
>
> Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with
> silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle
> mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.
>
>
>
> Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.
>
>
>
> Updates when I get em.
>
> Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever,
> walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
>
> Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   Ode
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis <
>   li...@mayaluga.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>I've seen, and just responded.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>From:
>"hanan bissar" <hanabell...@gmail.com>
>
>
>Date: Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
>
>
>To:
>silver-list@eskimo.com
>
>
>Subject: CS>Are my posts being seen?
>
>
>
> I posted earlier but did notsee it in the archives. Please let me know
> if you see this post.
>
>
>
>
>  ~Hanan
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Are my posts being seen? Yes

[Ode Coyote]

yes
This from here, posted on PrepperNet
Day before yesterday, Sodaman was called up by a friend saying her fully
vaxed husband with co-morbidites from cancer treatments was deathly ill
from COVID after being sent home from the hospital. [not because the
hospital was full, but because so many staff had quit over the mandates]

He was found to be nearly unconscious, barely breathing, too weak to sit up
in bed and getting worse.

 Sodaman went to Walmart and bought an ultrasonic vaporizer, filled it with
silver water, set it up next to her husbands bed so the mist would settle
mostly near his face where he would breath it in all night.

 Next morning he was MUCH better, sitting up and talking, fully aware.

Updates when I get em.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24



This morning, out of bed, breathing easier, lungs pretty clear, no fever,
walking around...stuffy nose and occasional cough.
Sanford, NC·Posted Fri, September 24

Ode

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:00 PM Linda Ellis  wrote:

> I've seen, and just responded.
> Linda
>
> --
> *From: *"hanan bissar" 
> *Date: *Sun, Oct 3, 2021 4:48 pm
> *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *CS>Are my posts being seen?
> I posted earlier but did not see it in the archives. Please let me know if
> you see this post.
>
> ~Hanan
>

Re: CS>silver effect on sperm

[Ode Coyote]

They used pretty high concentrations and direct exposure.
98% of silver is eliminated within 48 hours.
If you want to get preggers..don't use silver for a few days ?
...and don't inject your testicles with 50 PPM silver that night. [ouch]
Ode

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 7:33 PM Max  wrote:

> Internalization of silver nanoparticles into mouse spermatozoa results
> in poor fertilization and compromised embryo development
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/srep11170
>
> Of course this does not apply to the Silver List members for whom silver
> is non toxic in any way at any dose
>
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Re: CS>Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2

[Ode Coyote]

Silver is not toxic to fish...a sterile environment is.

On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:21 PM Max  wrote:

> silver is highly toxic to aquatic life.  Deforms fish embryos at
> relatively low level, among other things
> On 9/22/2021 1:52 PM, hanan bissar wrote:
>
> Hahaha...
>
> "A proper disposal protocol should be developed for Ag containing products
> to avoid causing untoward imbalances in the environmental microbial pattern
> when discarded after use."
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 1:01 PM Rick  wrote:
>
>>
>> Potent antiviral effect of silver nanoparticles on SARS-CoV-2
>> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32958250/
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Shock studay: 30 times more likely to catch COVID if you are vaccinated.

[Ode Coyote]

They lied about Trump for 4 YEARS and still are.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 9:07 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> When was the last time they didn't?
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:37 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> When was the last time CNBC told the truth about anything?
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 3:03 PM Jean Baugh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The CDC is a privately owned company controlled by pharma.  Neither are
>>> credible in the least.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 1:34 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From an OAN link of course. Not credible, never has been.
>>>>
>>>> This one tells the truth.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html
>>>>
>>>> I really don't understand how you can believe that crap when there is
>>>> no real science to back it up and I'm able to show the opposite using real
>>>> figures from the CDC that tell the truth.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:20 AM Marshall Dudley 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is from a real news outlet.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=613f9ce113839c20f6a81e1e
>>>>>
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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

Delta...if it even really exists and is actually spreading rather than just
an excuse for the FAILURE of the Phizer vac is more transmissible but LESS
destructive and it most likely came from  vaccinated people as the vaccine
doesn't "Kill" the virus and no natural immunity which is 13 to 27%
[depending on what report xou see] BETTER, is gained... as vaccinated
people get reinfected, having very little immunity and requier booster jabs
to maintain whatever resistance they did have.

True to the political philosophy 'Exlaxia Excrementia"   [If it don't work.
do it harder]

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 9:00 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> The unvaccinated caused the new variant which is way worse than previous
> ones and we don't have the protections against it nearly as strong as we
> did with the first versions of covid so even the vaxxed have increased
> problems with getting sick at all, getting hospitalized and getting killed.
> It still makes us more resistant than the unvaxxed but our survival rate
> has now been lowered. The next variant could be even worse but it doesn't
> have to happen, it's on you.
>
> Delta is way more contagious, will infect many more people under the same
> circumstances as the older versions. It kills more people too. It would not
> exist at all if not for the unvaccinated.
>
> The vaccinated still have way more chances of not being hospitalized but
> more of us will die thanks to you all. Why not just listen to the
> scientists so you know why Delta is more dangerous to us all?
>
> You are directly responsible for the new variant and directly
> responsible for the increased deaths among both vaccinated and not. You are
> directly responsible for deaths not related to covid where people were
> denied hospital care because they are full of unvaxxed people.
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 8:50 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> If the "vaccine"... "works", how are the unvaxed any sort of threat AT
>> ALL to the vaccinated?
>> THE WHOLE POINT of a vaccine is to have immunity.
>>
>> If in THIS instance, it ISN'T a *real* vaccine [VINOvaccine in name
>> only] and just a way to decrease symptoms [while NOT gaining natural
>> immunity] there are other ways to do that and still have natural immunity
>> afterwards.
>> ...but those ways don't funnel 10s of BILLIONS into the "pharma" or
>> support the Center for Dystopian Control
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 7:39 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The corruption is on your side dude. You were taught not to believe
>>> reality. That's insane.
>>>
>>> We've had 178 MILLION people get the vaccines and very few problems with
>>> it, that's all I need to know. Stop making up shit to avoid doing what is
>>> right. Your inaction is killing people and causing this problem. Your
>>> inaction. The number of people suffering vaccine damage is so very small,
>>> extremely small.Think for yourself just once and stop listening to the ones
>>> that consider you gullible, uninformed numbskulls.
>>>
>>> Speak English dude. I have no idea what EGT is, I don't listen to fake
>>> news so I'm not exposed to the lies you assume are valid when they aren't.
>>> I've seen so many lies posted here that will result in more people dying.
>>>
>>> I have rights too. I'm not allowed to have freedoms because of what the
>>> idiots are doing around me. No masks on, no vaccine, and they won't even
>>> stay out of my face in the local supermarket. That's intentional attempted
>>> murder. The law doesn't care that you listen to fake news, you are still
>>> responsible for your actions in public places. There is no reason to put
>>> people at risk. And now I have to hide again, I've gone back to wearing
>>> masks and I can't go out, can't shop, can't work. You did that, all of you
>>> idiot assholes.This new variant would not exist at all but for you. Do you
>>> understand that?
>>>
>>> There is no personal knowledge of deaths and injuries, it's conjured up
>>> like a witch's potion.
>>>
>>> We have medical personnel so burnt out after 2 years over working
>>> overload. We have people dying from heart attacks because you idiots have
>>> taken up all the beds avilable for them.
>>>
>>> Stop stepping on my rights to live, work and even eat.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:27 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Really, it comes down t

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

If the "vaccine"... "works", how are the unvaxed any sort of threat AT ALL
to the vaccinated?
THE WHOLE POINT of a vaccine is to have immunity.

If in THIS instance, it ISN'T a *real* vaccine [VINOvaccine in name
only] and just a way to decrease symptoms [while NOT gaining natural
immunity] there are other ways to do that and still have natural immunity
afterwards.
...but those ways don't funnel 10s of BILLIONS into the "pharma" or support
the Center for Dystopian Control

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 7:39 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> The corruption is on your side dude. You were taught not to believe
> reality. That's insane.
>
> We've had 178 MILLION people get the vaccines and very few problems with
> it, that's all I need to know. Stop making up shit to avoid doing what is
> right. Your inaction is killing people and causing this problem. Your
> inaction. The number of people suffering vaccine damage is so very small,
> extremely small.Think for yourself just once and stop listening to the ones
> that consider you gullible, uninformed numbskulls.
>
> Speak English dude. I have no idea what EGT is, I don't listen to fake
> news so I'm not exposed to the lies you assume are valid when they aren't.
> I've seen so many lies posted here that will result in more people dying.
>
> I have rights too. I'm not allowed to have freedoms because of what the
> idiots are doing around me. No masks on, no vaccine, and they won't even
> stay out of my face in the local supermarket. That's intentional attempted
> murder. The law doesn't care that you listen to fake news, you are still
> responsible for your actions in public places. There is no reason to put
> people at risk. And now I have to hide again, I've gone back to wearing
> masks and I can't go out, can't shop, can't work. You did that, all of you
> idiot assholes.This new variant would not exist at all but for you. Do you
> understand that?
>
> There is no personal knowledge of deaths and injuries, it's conjured up
> like a witch's potion.
>
> We have medical personnel so burnt out after 2 years over working
> overload. We have people dying from heart attacks because you idiots have
> taken up all the beds avilable for them.
>
> Stop stepping on my rights to live, work and even eat.
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 3:27 AM pal joey  wrote:
>
>> Really, it comes down to credibility.  Because of the corruption I
>> witness from your sources, I don't believe 99 % of what they say.   NPR
>> would have us believe that Amish people are winking at each other at the
>> clinic, while getting the clotshot on the sly. But  for me, that
>> exemplifies NPR s creepy innuendo, providing influence to the gullible,
>> but nothing credible. This is why we're at this place; you believe the
>> bullshitters and we see through the bullshit. I've see modernas own
>> description of their experimental gene therapy , bragging about it as "the
>> software of life",   (Until they revised it to imply its a "vaccine ")and
>> multiple statements from varied official sources that its experimental,
>> AUTHORIZED, BUT NOT APPROVED, with my own eyes,  to know without a doubt,
>> that its not a "vaccine ", no matter how many times its call that. First
>> there were multiple warnings about what damage the EGT would do, and now
>> there are multiple reports that it is happening,  as well as my own
>> personal knowledge of deaths and injuries from it, to make a solid decision
>> that its something to avoid,  especially when there are so many other valid
>> options.  Really, the EGT is  designed for the gullible, uniformed ,
>> authority worshipping numbskulls, because they're too busy to learn how to
>> help themselves.
>>
>

Re: CS>Shock studay: 30 times more likely to catch COVID if you are vaccinated.

[Ode Coyote]

When was the last time CNBC told the truth about anything?

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 3:03 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> The CDC is a privately owned company controlled by pharma.  Neither are
> credible in the least.
>
> Jean
>
> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 1:34 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> From an OAN link of course. Not credible, never has been.
>>
>> This one tells the truth.
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/24/cdc-study-shows-unvaccinated-people-are-29-times-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-with-covid.html
>>
>> I really don't understand how you can believe that crap when there is no
>> real science to back it up and I'm able to show the opposite using real
>> figures from the CDC that tell the truth.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:20 AM Marshall Dudley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is from a real news outlet.
>>>
>>> https://freeworldnews.tv/watch?id=613f9ce113839c20f6a81e1e
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>WOW: Facebook Post from TV Station Accidentally Reveals More People are Dying from the Vaccine than the Media is Reporting

[Ode Coyote]

Phizer is coming out with an "Oral Vaccine" pill...active ingredient, you
guessed it:  ivermectin

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 3:32 AM André Juthe  wrote:

> Cyndiann are you claiming that ivermectin does not work against covid-19?
> If you are, then you are dead wrong. Many studies shows that.
>
> Den tis 14 sep. 2021 kl 08:07 skrev Cyndiann Phillips  >:
>
>> Wrong again. Doesn't the lack of actual evidence kinda give it away? Why
>> is it you never fact check these things before posting them here. Makes you
>> look pretty silly.
>>
>> Except passing on crap like this proves how little you know if you could
>> fall for stuff like that. If it didn't result in more people dying I'd not
>> care. And I don't understand why you think more dead people is fine.
>>
>> I think anyone passing on fake news should be charged with attempted
>> murder.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:19 PM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://thedcpatriot.com/facebook-post-accidentally-reveals-more-people-are-being-killed-by-the-vaccine-than-the-media-is-letting-on/
>>>
>>>
>>> *Now we can use Ivermectin instead of regular flu shots. Anon*
>>>
>>
>
> --
> André Juthe
> andre.ju...@gmail.com
> +46736232019
> Myrvägen 26
> 74732 Alunda
> Sweden
>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

 "The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the
gut lining"
 The statement is false.
Why? Because they are no longer IONs once they INSTANTLY react with the HCL
in the stomach.
"Ions" absorb just fine, even through the skin. [Takes a while, but they
do... ELIMINATING serious blood poisoning from wounds over night...seen it
happen with mine own eyes, twice. ]

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 9:05 AM André Juthe  wrote:

> Phil Morristond claims: "CS is far superior at killing pathogens than
> ions." Ok, could you provide some references to peer-review studies for
> that claim? I have read several studies that show the exact OPPOSITE. See
> for instance:
>
> https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2012/ra/c2ra20684f
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10904-020-01744-x
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S100107421730058X
>
> Just making a truth claim does not make it so, nor does repeating the
> claim make it so.
>
> Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 14:05 skrev Ode Coyote  >:
>
>> The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
>> fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver
>> chloride and *silver particles* do not.
>>
>> That's why you neutralize stomach acid for max effect...ions take a bit
>> of TIME to form Silver Chloride in the blood stream and they work FAST.
>> Silver Chloride kills germs too..[by releasing ions ] ...if it's where it
>> does some good [not instantly made in your stomach]
>>
>> Frank Key is a good guy, but he has a sales agenda and what he 'doesn't
>> say' tells a story.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others,
>>>
>>> CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions.
>>>
>>> I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS
>>> colloidal silver over ionic silver.  (see below).
>>>
>>> The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the
>>> gut lining, is fully discussed in this article.
>>>
>>> https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/
>>>
>>
>
> --
> André Juthe
> andre.ju...@gmail.com
> +46736232019
> Myrvägen 26
> 74732 Alunda
> Sweden
>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

The AgPNs still have to release ions in order to kill anything.
It has been reported on this list that putting salt in 'EIS' [aka Ionic
Silver Water...after it is made] will develop a blueish haze indicating the
formation of Silver Chloride
 After doing that several times and NOT seeing that reaction, I finally
did, but it took quite a while.

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 9:05 AM André Juthe  wrote:

> Phil Morristond claims: "CS is far superior at killing pathogens than
> ions." Ok, could you provide some references to peer-review studies for
> that claim? I have read several studies that show the exact OPPOSITE. See
> for instance:
>
> https://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlehtml/2012/ra/c2ra20684f
> https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10904-020-01744-x
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S100107421730058X
>
> Just making a truth claim does not make it so, nor does repeating the
> claim make it so.
>
> Den lör 11 sep. 2021 kl 14:05 skrev Ode Coyote  >:
>
>> The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
>> fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver
>> chloride and *silver particles* do not.
>>
>> That's why you neutralize stomach acid for max effect...ions take a bit
>> of TIME to form Silver Chloride in the blood stream and they work FAST.
>> Silver Chloride kills germs too..[by releasing ions ] ...if it's where it
>> does some good [not instantly made in your stomach]
>>
>> Frank Key is a good guy, but he has a sales agenda and what he 'doesn't
>> say' tells a story.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others,
>>>
>>> CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions.
>>>
>>> I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS
>>> colloidal silver over ionic silver.  (see below).
>>>
>>> The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the
>>> gut lining, is fully discussed in this article.
>>>
>>> https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/
>>>
>>
>
> --
> André Juthe
> andre.ju...@gmail.com
> +46736232019
> Myrvägen 26
> 74732 Alunda
> Sweden
>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

1/4- 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 cup of water on empty
stomach...wait 10-15 minutes, then guzzle silver water.

https://silverpuppy.com/article/baking-soda-makes-cs-far-more-effective-tactic-that-worked-for-me

On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:57 AM Theresa Swift 
wrote:

> So what’s the best way to neutralize the stomach acid?
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 8:05 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
>> fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver
>> chloride and *silver particles* do not.
>>
>> That's why you neutralize stomach acid for max effect...ions take a bit
>> of TIME to form Silver Chloride in the blood stream and they work FAST.
>> Silver Chloride kills germs too..[by releasing ions ] ...if it's where it
>> does some good [not instantly made in your stomach]
>>
>> Frank Key is a good guy, but he has a sales agenda and what he 'doesn't
>> say' tells a story.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others,
>>>
>>> CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions.
>>>
>>> I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS
>>> colloidal silver over ionic silver.  (see below).
>>>
>>> The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the
>>> gut lining, is fully discussed in this article.
>>>
>>> https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/
>>>
>>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

 The difference between silver ions and silver particles boils down to the
fact that *silver ions* combine with chloride ions to form silver chloride
and *silver particles* do not.

That's why you neutralize stomach acid for max effect...ions take a bit of
TIME to form Silver Chloride in the blood stream and they work FAST.
Silver Chloride kills germs too..[by releasing ions ] ...if it's where it
does some good [not instantly made in your stomach]

Frank Key is a good guy, but he has a sales agenda and what he 'doesn't
say' tells a story.

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:51 AM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> Ahoy Ion Floggers, Andre, Max, Ode, and sundry others,
>
> CS is far superior at killing pathogens than ions.
>
> I posted an article earlier on this Forum detailing the advantages of CS
> colloidal silver over ionic silver.  (see below).
>
> The reasons why CS can cross the gut lining, and ions cannot cross the gut
> lining, is fully discussed in this article.
>
> https://www.silver-colloids.com/about-ionic-silver/
>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

Experience says that ions work just fine, gut or no gut.

On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 10:59 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

> Yo, Max!
>
> I thought you were going to bag it, and take your misinformation to
> another forum.
>
> Your latest posting was pure wishful thinking.  The science content read
> like it was written
> by AI on a vaccinated computer.  Nothing made sense.
>
> First off, Ions do not cross the gut lining.  Only CS can cross the gut
> lining.
>
> Should you leave this Forum, please take your pseudo-science-ion-buddies
> with you.
>
>
>

Re: CS> Gaslighters

[Ode Coyote]

I'm saying IONS are what kill the pathogens and they are easy to make.
"Particles" are not easy to make and have to release ions in order to work
...skip that step...ya think?

On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:44 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So you are saying CS is good but you think nanoparticles are better?
>
> Is it much more difficult to make CS NP?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:53 PM Phil Morrison 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> CS NPs are far superior at killing pathogens than ionic silver.
>>
>> And gaslighters flogging EIS on this Forum should take their business
>> elsewhere.
>>
>

Re: CS>Pls recommend nebulizer

[Ode Coyote]

Go to walmart and get an ultrasonic humidifier [about $30]

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 7:12 PM jenny goodhealth 
wrote:

> Need one to nebulize hydrogen peroxide, iodine & colloidal silver to
> combat Lyme, bartonella, mycoplasma, &  babesia as well as opportunistic
> infections which affect the lungs & heart.   Please advise.  Thx.
>
> Jen
>

Re: CS>Proof that the pandemic was planned & with purpose | Principia Scientific Intl.

[Ode Coyote]

Looks like we already have.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 12:05 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> You all should move to Russia or Iran or China
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_8319132436880421638_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 11:31 AM Rick  wrote:
>
>> RE: Proof That The Pandemic Was Planned & With PurposeThe following is
>> the best article to date that I've read, proving that this "Covid Pandemic"
>> was man-made. So many bases are covered based on pre-pandemic preparations
>> specific to Covid. Now there can be no disputing that the world is being
>> lied to. That *we have been painted and targeted for a genocide, the
>> intentional action to destroy a people—* but not just a particular group
>> of people. Seemingly as much of humanity as possible, all who are not one
>> of the major players, those who helped plan and carry this atrocity.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:22 AM siriusley13 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Great! Fullest list to date! Good for sharing and copying
>>> On Sep 3, 2021, 5:44 AM -0600, T. J. Garland ,
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://principia-scientific.com/proof-that-the-pandemic-was-planned-with-purpose/
>>>
>>>
>>> *Your mask is as useful as Biden.   Anon*
>>>
>>>

Re: CS> Herd Immunity

[Ode Coyote]

They only lie..sometimes. Like Alex Jones and the government.

On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 11:26 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> Natural News is not an unbiased source to say the least.
>
> Show me real science, not that crap.
>
>
> 
>  Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
> <#m_7756140378678162019_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:31 PM Phil Morrison 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Israeli Study Shows the Human immune System Is Stronger Than Vaccines
>> Study suggests herd immunity is compromised by vaccination.
>>
>>
>> https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-01-human-immune-system-stronger-than-vaccines.html
>>
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

It seems that every 'group' has one...and only one.
Hu.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:40 PM Ed  wrote:

> The problem with the troll and the person wanting other to move to the new
> group is she/he can't read or understand common sense.  I once had a dog
> like this, and had to put the bitch to sleep, maybe mother nature will have
> input into this problem.  Blessings
> On 8/29/2021 3:15 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
>
> The risk of rare blood clotting is significantly higher as a result of
> catching Covid-19, than it is from being vaccinated against the virus, a
> new study has found.
>
> In a peer-reviewed study published in the British Medical Journal on
> Friday, researchers from Oxford University, the London School of Hygiene
> and Tropical Medicine and several other British universities and hospitals
> analyzed data from more than 29 million people who had received their first
> dose of either the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine or the Pfizer-BioNTech
> vaccine. The study’s authors were fully independent from the
> Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine developers.
>
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covid-not-vaccinations-presents-biggest-blood-clot-risk-study.html
>
>
> Science is a wonderful thing!
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:39 PM pal joey  wrote:
>
>> Not saying I know this is happening,  but there is some talk of some
>> people get a saline shot instead of the real vaccine. And the motive is a
>> guess, but theories include creating a segment of the group that won't have
>> problems, or become magnetized because they got saline. They would then be
>> pro "vaccine", (look, nothing happened to me).  Yes, it is far out
>> speculation,  I agree, but this entire event is like something out of a sci
>> fi horror movie, so anything is possible.  If I got the "vaccine", I would
>> look into the d- dimer blood test for blood clots,  and then look into non
>> toxic treatments to alleviate them as well as any possible antidotes, until
>> this is all sorted out. If the blood tests showed all clear, I'd still plan
>> to get more later, and continue to look at antidotes. Then, if all was
>> still clear, I'd consider whether I got the saline.
>>
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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

If it was an error, how would they know who got them?
 Odd that a mistake would be documented.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:30 PM Greg Kentwell  wrote:

> I agree and would go as far as to say that this is highly likely.
> Some weeks ago there was a msm article about a group of people the
> received saline shots “in error”.
> They wanted those people to come back and get the correct shot.
> How could this possibly happen if they did not have the saline shots lined
> up ready to administer.
> It was almost like they were telling us of this possibility. ( saline
> instead of poison).
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
> > On 29 Aug 2021, at 5:09 am, pal joey  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Not saying I know this is happening,  but there is some talk of some
> people get a saline shot instead of the real vaccine. And the motive is a
> guess, but theories include creating a segment of the group that won't have
> problems, or become magnetized because they got saline. They would then be
> pro "vaccine", (look, nothing happened to me).  Yes, it is far out
> speculation,  I agree, but this entire event is like something out of a sci
> fi horror movie, so anything is possible.  If I got the "vaccine", I would
> look into the d- dimer blood test for blood clots,  and then look into non
> toxic treatments to alleviate them as well as any possible antidotes, until
> this is all sorted out. If the blood tests showed all clear, I'd still plan
> to get more later, and continue to look at antidotes. Then, if all was
> still clear, I'd consider whether I got the saline.
>
>
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Re: CS>failed posts

[Ode Coyote]

Trolling is all about CONTENT  Ms Shrek

On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 7:02 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> So you admit being on here using 3 different emails. Isn't that called
> trolling?
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:03 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for that info.  Thing is, most of the time I DO see my posts.  I
>> have three different email addresses and the posts show up at different
>> times. Sometimes not at all.  Im assuming they dont actually make it
>> through.   An example is the inhalation toxicity posts. I tried 3
>> different versions of the post, until one made it.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On 8/22/2021 3:18 PM, Da Darrin wrote:
>> > You are right, I have another address subscribed to the list, that I
>> > look to to see what I just posted.
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:11 PM Diane Mackey 
>> wrote:
>> >> Max, when I post to the Silver list, I never see my post, unless
>> someone replies to it and includes the original.  So I think Eskimo does
>> not send emails to the author.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Diane
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Max  wrote:
>> >>> Many of my posts to the silver list dont make it.   There must be an
>> >>> algorithm somewhere in the chain, perhaps my email service provider,
>> >>> that does not allow certain posts to transmit.  URL of scientific
>> papers
>> >>> seems to be a flag which does not allow me to post.   But thats not
>> >>> all.  Perhaps duplicate posts, as in tests, are not allowed.   Maybe
>> >>> there are key words.  It seems to vary in time. Sometimes I can post
>> and
>> >>> other times it fails, even with the same content
>> >>>
>> >>>
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Re: CS>Toxicity to fish

[Ode Coyote]

Good point
 A baby fish is at one time a single celled organism [?]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 3:11 PM Max  wrote:

> The abstracts I read suggest that silver is toxic to fish embryos and
> adult fish at relevant silver concentration levels. Nanoparticles appear
> less toxic than ions.  But the particles go everywhere, even the brain, and
> release ions.  A noted cause of mortality to adult fish is disruption of
> sodium uptake in the gills.  In embryos,  free radical damage and DNA
> damage cause distortions and dysfunction.
>
> If my goal is to kill microbes and fungi with silver, then I would want to
> somehow maximize the toxicity to certain life forms and reduce toxicity to
> a minimum for other life forms.  Capping with herb extracts seems like one
> promising approach.  Limiting doses to periods of time might be wise.
>
> a concentration of 3 ug/cm2 killed all the fish in this study
>
> Silver nanospheres are cytotoxic and genotoxic to fish cells
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20060603/
>
> 
> Bianchini et al believe that
>
> 'Acute silver toxicity in aquatic animals is a function of sodium uptake
> rate'
> Adalto Bianchini
>
> "the key mechanism of acute silver toxicity consists of reduction in Na+
> uptake by blockade of gill Na+,K+-ATPase;"
> 
> whereas Sayed et al find that  the toxicity of silver nanoparticles in C.
> gariepinus embryos is caused by oxidative stress and genotoxicity.  The
> embryos were distorted at the nanogram per liter level
>
> "Embryos were treated with (0, 25, 50, 75ng/L silver nanoparticles) in
> water."
> =
> Gagne et al report a difference in toxic mechanisms between nanoparticle
> and ions, with nanoparticle inducing lipid peroxidation, changes to genes
> and inflammation and dissolved Ag involved oxidative stress and protein
> stability
> 'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles to rainbow trout: a toxicogenomic
> approach'
> ==
> Asharani et al report distorted and malfunctioning fish embryos in
>
> 'Toxicity of silver nanoparticles in zebrafish models'
>
> "A concentration-dependent increase in mortality and hatching delay was
> observed in Ag-np treated embryos. Additionally, nanoparticle treatments
> resulted in concentration-dependent toxicity, typified by phenotypes that
> had abnormal body axes, twisted notochord, slow blood flow, pericardial
> edema and cardiac arrhythmia."
>
>
>
> On 8/23/2021 10:27 AM, Max wrote:
>
> Thanks Ode
>
> So what is the toxic level of silver in water to fish?  And the toxic
> level in drinking water to humans?
>
> Thanks
>
> Max
> On 8/23/2021 4:11 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill the
> fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver that did it]
>
>
>

Re: CS>Toxicity, Inhalation

[Ode Coyote]

I think a *fish* can tolerate 10 PPM and maybe more...however, the fish
*tank* can't do even 1 PPM
A tank that uses filters instead of plants and bacterium to purify the
water may not apply at all.

According to BYU, [Brigham Young University]  3 parts per billion is too
much

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 1:27 PM Max  wrote:

> Thanks Ode
>
> So what is the toxic level of silver in water to fish?  And the toxic
> level in drinking water to humans?
>
> Thanks
>
> Max
> On 8/23/2021 4:11 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill the
> fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver that did it]
>
>  Carbon Filters remove poop, urine and silver
>
> Fungistop:
>
> Specified Method of use:
>
>- The treatment cycle last for 5 days
>- Single application on the 1st day of cycle
>- Partial water change must be done after every treatment cycle
>- Water change should be filtered over Activated Carbon for a period
>of 24 hours
>- Re-dose may be done if no improvement is observed
>- Quarantine tanks: 5 ml to 20 l (without using biologically-active
>filters and equipment)
>
> When using this product, take note of the following:
>
>- The tank should be well aerated during the treatment process
>- All absorbent filter media (Activated Charcoal and synthetic resins)
>should be removed
>
>
>
>- Do not use the product in tanks containing invertebrates (snails,
>shrimps and other crustaceans)
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Phil
>>
>> I would like to more about the nanoparticle oxygen relationship.
>>
>> To be fair, the citation I made, did not conclude that "silver is toxic
>> when inhaled".   As you saw, they had a section where no negative endpoint
>> was seen.  It was not a single study, it was a review.  So one can see
>> many, many studies on silver toxicity.  Its obviously not a question of if,
>> but rather how much. I think everyone could agree with that, as everything
>> reaches a toxic level.
>>
>> Your link was essentially an ad.   I dont doubt silver can treat fungal
>> infections in fish.   Perhaps a time limited water treatment is warranted.
>> But if we think raising the level of silver in an aqua-system will never do
>> harm, obviously thats simple minded hubris.
>>
>> keep the wisdom coming
>>
>> Max
>> On 8/22/2021 3:36 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>>
>> The Science article on which toxicity and inhalation of silver vapors,
>> nanoparticles, and dust is based is bogus.
>>
>> It is junk science.  A hit piece.
>>
>> One simply cannot scour the silver literature for only negative
>> information and write good/fair science.
>>
>> The authors totally screwed up the silver nanoparticle/oxygen
>> relationship and failed to pursue research where CS shines,
>> like with cancer, heart, and body purification.
>>
>> Also fish:
>> https://thesilveredge.com/using-colloidal-silver-in-your-fish-tank-or-aquarium/
>>
>>

Re: CS>Toxicity, Inhalation

[Ode Coyote]

Fish rely on microbes to purify their water...kill the microbes...kill the
fish with toxic fish poop and urine water [it wasn't the silver that did it]

 Carbon Filters remove poop, urine and silver

Fungistop:

Specified Method of use:

   - The treatment cycle last for 5 days
   - Single application on the 1st day of cycle
   - Partial water change must be done after every treatment cycle
   - Water change should be filtered over Activated Carbon for a period of
   24 hours
   - Re-dose may be done if no improvement is observed
   - Quarantine tanks: 5 ml to 20 l (without using biologically-active
   filters and equipment)

When using this product, take note of the following:

   - The tank should be well aerated during the treatment process
   - All absorbent filter media (Activated Charcoal and synthetic resins)
   should be removed



   - Do not use the product in tanks containing invertebrates (snails,
   shrimps and other crustaceans)


On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Thanks Phil
>
> I would like to more about the nanoparticle oxygen relationship.
>
> To be fair, the citation I made, did not conclude that "silver is toxic
> when inhaled".   As you saw, they had a section where no negative endpoint
> was seen.  It was not a single study, it was a review.  So one can see
> many, many studies on silver toxicity.  Its obviously not a question of if,
> but rather how much. I think everyone could agree with that, as everything
> reaches a toxic level.
>
> Your link was essentially an ad.   I dont doubt silver can treat fungal
> infections in fish.   Perhaps a time limited water treatment is warranted.
> But if we think raising the level of silver in an aqua-system will never do
> harm, obviously thats simple minded hubris.
>
> keep the wisdom coming
>
> Max
> On 8/22/2021 3:36 PM, Phil Morrison wrote:
>
> The Science article on which toxicity and inhalation of silver vapors,
> nanoparticles, and dust is based is bogus.
>
> It is junk science.  A hit piece.
>
> One simply cannot scour the silver literature for only negative
> information and write good/fair science.
>
> The authors totally screwed up the silver nanoparticle/oxygen relationship
> and failed to pursue research where CS shines,
> like with cancer, heart, and body purification.
>
> Also fish:
> https://thesilveredge.com/using-colloidal-silver-in-your-fish-tank-or-aquarium/
>
>

Re: CS>failed posts

[Ode Coyote]

Half of mine are in the spam folder

On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 5:11 PM Diane Mackey  wrote:

> Max, when I post to the Silver list, I never see my post, unless someone
> replies to it and includes the original.  So I think Eskimo does not send
> emails to the author.
>
>
> Diane
>
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 4:01 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Many of my posts to the silver list dont make it.   There must be an
>> algorithm somewhere in the chain, perhaps my email service provider,
>> that does not allow certain posts to transmit.  URL of scientific papers
>> seems to be a flag which does not allow me to post.   But thats not
>> all.  Perhaps duplicate posts, as in tests, are not allowed.   Maybe
>> there are key words.  It seems to vary in time. Sometimes I can post and
>> other times it fails, even with the same content
>>
>>
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Re: CS>CS and vit C

[Ode Coyote]

The sewage treatment plants see a LOT of pills of all sorts..eniough that
they express concerns about how much drugs are being discharged into the
environment.

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 2:59 PM Rick  wrote:

> It often makes me wonder how any supplements we swallow make it through
> our stomach to be used by our bodies.
>
> And I often wonder too...how did that bug find my plant if it wasn't here
> with the plant three months ago? Assuming that is, that it wasn't already
> living in the soil or under a leaf.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 1:43 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Rick
>>
>> Yes, moderation is key.  But theres more, if we want to pursue it.
>> Mixing CS with herbs may increase anti microbe or anti cancer effects while
>> reducing toxicity to healthy, human cells.  An in depth scientific approach
>> would look at surface charge, docking mechanisms, particle size, stability
>> and so on. Heres one question;  If you cap CS with an herb, or sugar or
>> something,  is it then stable enough to survive the stomach, circumventing
>> the baking soda method of neutralizing stomach acid?
>>
>> Organisms, including humans change the silver and do their own capping,
>> dissolution and elimination.   Small quantities of silver exist in food
>> plants.  It would be interesting to see how nature is delivering and using
>> silver in the grand and exquisite ecosystem of the living earth.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Max
>> On 8/21/2021 8:54 AM, Rick wrote:
>>
>> Moderation is key
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:49 PM Max  wrote:
>>
>>> A Chinese study indicates that the microbe killing effect of CS is
>>> destroyed with vit C, suggesting free radicals, or ROS is part of the
>>> microbe killing mechanism
>>>
>>> https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21691401.2019.1648278
>>>
>>> Iron zinc and copper also act as free radical generating materials. How
>>> much copper do you get from copper chlorophyllins?   Interestingly, vit C
>>> causes free radical generation in high doses by way of hydrogen peroxide.
>>> The trick is get the cytotoxic effect to happen on invaders and cancer
>>> cells and not healthy cells. CS accumulates in the liver and spleen.
>>> Important organs.
>>>
>>> Wormwood is a studied herb for treatment of covid-19.   Somehow it
>>> activates iron to cause free radicals which is at least part of the
>>> antimicrobe effect, as shown in studies with malaria
>>>
>>> See the dichotomy?  Optimizing health ioften involves reducing free
>>> radicals, increasing glutathione etc, yet this could reduce the
>>> antimicrobial effect of herbs and CS
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:

> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>
>
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Re: CS>CS toxicity, inhalation

[Ode Coyote]

It's not toxic to fish...it's toxic to a fish environment that depends on
microbes and algaes to digest fish poop and urine.
You can put a sick fish in a  separate tank with CS in it for a while,
transfer the fish to a pure water tank for a few days, then back into the
regular tank...but do not put CS in the regular tank...it'll "kill the
TANK" and then the TANK will kill the fish.
ode

On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 9:00 PM Max  wrote:

> Rick
>
> Good anecdotal information, glad it worked for you.   I have an
> inexpensive ultrasonic nebulizer.  I will nebulize silver after mixing with
> an herb for the beneficial capping effect. I have used silver in a room
> humidifier in the past.
>
> I wouldnt say silver is completely safe.   My idea is to take as needed,
> but not chronically.   I think it can get everywhere in your body,
> including the nervous system.   This could be a bummer.
>
> Its not massively toxic like some heavy metals.  Its listed as a noble or
> semi metal...sure that helps.  The ability to de differentiate cells is
> fascinating, potentially super therapeutic, and also scary.  It is
> extremely toxic to aquatic organisms, including fish.  I kind of think of
> myself as an aquatic organism
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
> On 8/20/2021 3:15 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> Interesting article but does not cover inhalation via vaporizer which I
> have done quite a bit of, especially when I felt like something was coming
> on and most especially when I was in healthcare of late and they were Covid
> testing with the PCR every two weeks. I heavily vaporized and inhaled the
> CS, also dropping it into my eyes.
>
> Various labs as I understood were used throughout the time I was tested
> every 2 weeks over many months until late last year. I never had a positive
> or false positive covid test and I attribute that to vaporizing and
> inhaling it directly into my lungs three times to as many as five times per
> day prior to the test days and then would stop for a week after the test
> and then resume the following week. Every day again up until testing.
>
> Never experienced any ill effects.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>>
>>
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>>

Re: CS>CS toxicity, inhalation

[Ode Coyote]

 Sounds like the second hand smoke studies where subjects were placed in
unventilated rooms in concentrations that a chain smoker would never
tolerate... or the LSD studies that proved it causes chromosome
breakage...using enough LSD on a mosquito to turn an elephant purple and
pink.



On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 3:01 PM Max  wrote:

> silver toxicity studies,  inhalation
> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0273230020301161
>
>
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>
>

Re: CS>How many people are active on this list?

[Ode Coyote]

"Survive"   You had it, right?
Tell us your story. [pu pu puleeze]

ode

On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 9:20 AM Dawn Ruhl  wrote:

> I don't post much, rarely at best, basically because I don't have much to
> offer. I use CS for my pets and me.
> This list is extremely helpful.
> CS helped me survive CV19 or as I like to call it the RonaWuFlu.
>
> Dawn Ruhl
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:26 AM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> Rude isn't a challenge anymore. I said it before, this dipstick is a
>> 'plant', a 'sleeper', this it/him/her/them knows nothing about silver,
>> that's blatantly obvious because nothing had been discussed, only MSM, it's
>> like a parrot, or a poor case with a stammer.
>>
>> N.
>> --
>> *From:* Theresa Swift 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 August 2021 8:22:34 AM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>How many people are active on this list?
>>
>> I do the same.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 6:16 PM Da Darrin  wrote:
>>
>> Being rude is a lot more fun.
>> Dave
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 1:39 PM  wrote:
>> >
>> > when I see her name I just delete it because she has no info I need.
>> Everyone should do the same.  Like arguing with a spoiled child who wants
>> their way all the time.  It's better than being rude.
>> >
>> > Edith
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: siriusley13 
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2021 8:40 am
>> > Subject: Re: CS>How many people are active on this list?
>> >
>> > Not sure why the need to dismantle this list entirely due to one
>> trollbot? Those who want to move move those who are on both are on both. I
>> don’t like the feel of taking charge to dismantle anything. It will hang on
>> with a few open to wider discussion or it will fizzle. No big deal in my
>> way of thinking. A tighter moderated list is nice in some ways but also
>> more censorious and I am getting itchy from too much censoring. I can
>> ignore and relish the helpful links more open minded folks provide as long
>> as they are here.
>> > On Aug 16, 2021, 6:51 AM -0600, p c , wrote:
>> >
>> > I’m still here and on the new list.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Linda Ellis  wrote:
>> >
>> > In order to fix an email problem I was having, I had to "unblock"
>> everybody in order to be able to see my own emails and posts. Which means,
>> I had to "unblock" The Troll.
>> >
>> > Is there any way we can figure out how many people are active here, and
>> work to get them all moved to the new silver list - then dismantle this
>> list entirely?
>> >
>> > I'm guessing Mike has to do that, but he seems pretty uninterested in
>> this group any more. If anybody has any suggestions, I'm happy to do some
>> work to accomplish the goal.
>> >
>> > Linda
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: CS>prevent illness?

[Ode Coyote]

The biggest problem all these people have with using silverwhich they
KNOW WORKS...is making it complicated enough to convince you that you can't
do it yourself dang near for FREE  and have to buy it from 'them'
...but it seems as though the complications make it less effective and
takes using more silver doing nothingand ALL of them work by
'releasing' silver Ions [vs just making silver ions to start with]
Ode

On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 8:13 PM Max  wrote:

> Has anyone noticed they keep saying the Pfizer vaccine was not designed
> to reduce infection but instead to reduce serious disease?  This doesnt
> make sense if neutralizing antibody production is the vaccine
> principle.  Why?  Because, as I keep mentioning, covid is a two or three
> stage disease. Everyone defeats the virus in 7 to 10 days, including the
> ones that go on to die.  The cause of death is a hyperinflammatory
> response from a dysregulated immune system.  In other words, the
> vaccines dont appear to treat the cause of severe covid.  But the data
> seems to indicate a reduction in severe disease at least before the
> delta variant.   So this has me wondering;  what is in the vaccine that
> treats the hyperinflammatory response?
>
> This is pure conjecture, but imagine this sci fi scenario;  the vaccine
> includes some antiviral nanoparticle incorporating graphene oxide and
> silver  which reduces serious illness after the virus has already
> penetrated into the blood stream, but does not reduce nasal titers and
> thus infectiousness.  The population then very predictably causes
> evolutionary mutation of the virus, requiring a yearly vaccination
> schedule for new variants.
>
> Check out this overview including graphene oxide silver nanoparticles
>
> " In another report, GO sheets are reported to exhibit significant
> antiviral inhibition potentials toward enveloped feline coronavirus
> (FCoV), and incorporating silver particles into GO structure broadens
> its antiviral potential toward non-enveloped infectious bursal disease
> virus (IBDV) as well"
>
> " In a recent study, authors have attempted to investigate the antiviral
> effect of GO-Silver nanoparticles composite on the replication of
> porcine reproductive and respiratory syndrome virus (PRRSV) [38]. The
> results suggest that the exposure of virus with GO-AgNPs composite
> obstruct the virus to enter the host cell with 59.2% efficiency and also
> promotes the production of IFN-stimulating genes (ISGs) and interferon-α
> (IFN-α) that inhibits the virus proliferation"
>
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7577689/
>
> as I understand it,  the IFN-α is key to the ability of the young and
> healthy to fight of covid and experience little if any symptoms of illness
>
>
> thanks
>
> max
>
>
>
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Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

There is that, but there are other courts too.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:39 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> It also means the decision of the court just under the supreme court will
> stand and they don't have a problem with it. They believe the right ruling
> was already given.
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:09 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> Rejecting a challenge isn't the same as ruling against it..it means they
>> won't 'hear' it to make a ruling one way or the other.
>>
>> ode
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:09 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *When eight Indiana University students who are anti-vaccination sue the
>>> school, it escalates all the way to the Supreme Court and the Court rules
>>> in favor of required vaccinations?* That's progress against
>>> disinformation.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-challenge-indiana-university-s-vaccination-requirement-n1276714
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:29 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Imagine that! People protesting because they don't want to do what it
>>>> takes to stop people from dying.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:07 PM phoenix23...@tds.net <
>>>> phoenix23...@tds.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyone else see this on MSM news?  I don't watch the news
>>>>> so missed this.  Supposedly, riots in italy also.
>>>>> Lola
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/europe-health-coronavirus-pandemic-256bbfd835e6388219390cacb536eaba
>>>>>
>>>>> an excerpt    "PARIS (AP) — Thousands of people
>>>>> protested France’s special virus pass with marches through Paris and other
>>>>> French cities on Saturday. Most demonstrations were peaceful, but sporadic
>>>>> clashes with riot police marked protests in the French capital.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some 3,000 security forces deployed around Paris for a third weekend
>>>>> of protests against the pass that will be needed soon to enter restaurants
>>>>> and other places. Police took up posts along the Champs-Elysees to guard
>>>>> against an invasion of the famed avenue.
>>>>>
>>>>> With virus infections spiking and hospitalizations rising, French
>>>>> lawmakers have passed a bill requiring the pass in most places as of Aug.
>>>>> 9. Polls show a majority of French support the pass, but some are 
>>>>> adamantly
>>>>> opposed. The pass requires a vaccination or a quick negative test or proof
>>>>> of a recent recovery from COVID-19 and mandates vaccine shots for all
>>>>> health care workers by mid-September."
>>>>> --- Original Message -
>>>>> From: Rick 
>>>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:20:13 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>> Subject: Re: CS>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, likely a severe case of micro blood clots is in her future,
>>>>> especially if she continues dosing with additional boosters and yearly. It
>>>>> is only a matter of time and we won't be hearing from her anymore. Not 
>>>>> that
>>>>> it makes me feel any better, but we have all tried without positive
>>>>> results. So if she is unwilling to read and listen and watch the experts
>>>>> herself and only wants to repeat the propaganda and smear campaigns, then
>>>>> what are we to do? It is all on her now...maybe she doesn't wish to live
>>>>> much longer? I guess we'll know when she stops commenting?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:45 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think by now, all of us can see thats its pointless to try and
>>>>>> school our resident brainwashed victim. No method of reaching a 
>>>>>> conclusion
>>>>>> is going to be good enough.We're already
>>>>>> hearing from the vax zombies, that a "wait and see",  "err on the side of
>>>>>> caution", position is not going to be tolerated. If and when internment
>>>>>> camps for the refusenics are employed, the vax zombies will cheer. This
>>>>>> isn't speculation,  they already, actually think like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: CS>Natural News Unravels The Plandemic

[Ode Coyote]

Natural News may be useful to point you in some direction, but as a source
of info itself?
The National Enquirer is probably better.

ode

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:24 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> CDC also announces covid internment camps.
>
>
> https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-11-cdc-announces-covid-internment-camps-for-every-us-city-minimum-humanitarian-standards.html
>

Re: CS>Our First Hand ICU Story - What is ACTUALLY Killing People In The Hospital

[Ode Coyote]

Yea...if it's so freeking great why do you feel like you have to FORCE me
to get it?
Ode

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 9:44 AM Rick  wrote:

> “Those who are pushing these vaccine mandates and vaccine passports …
> they’re doing so much more damage to vaccine confidence than anybody else,”
> says Dr. Martin Kulldorff, one of the world’s leading epidemiologists."
>
>
> https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/harvard-epidemiologist-martin-kulldorff-on-vaccine-passports-the-delta-variant-and-the-covid-public-health-fiasco_3942556.html?v=ul
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

Rejecting a challenge isn't the same as ruling against it..it means they
won't 'hear' it to make a ruling one way or the other.

ode

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:09 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> *When eight Indiana University students who are anti-vaccination sue the
> school, it escalates all the way to the Supreme Court and the Court rules
> in favor of required vaccinations?* That's progress against
> disinformation.
>
>
> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rejects-challenge-indiana-university-s-vaccination-requirement-n1276714
>
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:29 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> Imagine that! People protesting because they don't want to do what it
>> takes to stop people from dying.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 8:07 PM phoenix23...@tds.net <
>> phoenix23...@tds.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone else see this on MSM news?  I don't watch the news
>>> so missed this.  Supposedly, riots in italy also.
>>> Lola
>>>
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/europe-health-coronavirus-pandemic-256bbfd835e6388219390cacb536eaba
>>>
>>> an excerpt    "PARIS (AP) — Thousands of people
>>> protested France’s special virus pass with marches through Paris and other
>>> French cities on Saturday. Most demonstrations were peaceful, but sporadic
>>> clashes with riot police marked protests in the French capital.
>>>
>>> Some 3,000 security forces deployed around Paris for a third weekend of
>>> protests against the pass that will be needed soon to enter restaurants and
>>> other places. Police took up posts along the Champs-Elysees to guard
>>> against an invasion of the famed avenue.
>>>
>>> With virus infections spiking and hospitalizations rising, French
>>> lawmakers have passed a bill requiring the pass in most places as of Aug.
>>> 9. Polls show a majority of French support the pass, but some are adamantly
>>> opposed. The pass requires a vaccination or a quick negative test or proof
>>> of a recent recovery from COVID-19 and mandates vaccine shots for all
>>> health care workers by mid-September."
>>> --- Original Message -
>>> From: Rick 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:20:13 -0400 (EDT)
>>> Subject: Re: CS>
>>>
>>> Well, likely a severe case of micro blood clots is in her future,
>>> especially if she continues dosing with additional boosters and yearly. It
>>> is only a matter of time and we won't be hearing from her anymore. Not that
>>> it makes me feel any better, but we have all tried without positive
>>> results. So if she is unwilling to read and listen and watch the experts
>>> herself and only wants to repeat the propaganda and smear campaigns, then
>>> what are we to do? It is all on her now...maybe she doesn't wish to live
>>> much longer? I guess we'll know when she stops commenting?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:45 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>>
 I think by now, all of us can see thats its pointless to try and school
 our resident brainwashed victim. No method of reaching a conclusion is
 going to be good enough.We're already hearing
 from the vax zombies, that a "wait and see",  "err on the side of caution",
 position is not going to be tolerated. If and when internment camps for the
 refusenics are employed, the vax zombies will cheer. This isn't
 speculation,  they already, actually think like that.

>>>
>>>
>>>

CS>Re: CS>BOMBSHELL: HHS documents admit the CDC has never isolated any “covid-19 virus” … PCR tests nothing but instrument NOISE … the global HOAX is rapidly unraveling – NaturalNews.com

[Ode Coyote]

O Lord 'everybody is a reptilian alien' David Icke is still around?...a
hustler from WAY back.
Even Alex Jones hits on something now and then...but you never know what or
how hard.
Natural News has zero credibility.

On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 9:12 AM T. J. Garland  wrote:

>
>
> https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-08-08-hhs-documents-admit-the-cdc-has-never-isolated-any-covid-19-virus-global-hoax.html
>
>
> *The microbe is nothing. The terrain is everything. *
> *Louis Pasteur*
>

Re: CS>Baking soda and Ode

[Ode Coyote]

 The original story here  [highlight/copy/paste]
https://silverpuppy.com/article/baking-soda-makes-cs-far-more-effective-tactic-that-worked-for-me

the post

Try the baking soda setupIt REALLY PUTS THE SILVER WHERE IT NEEDS TO
GO..and a LOT of it in a FLOOD.
 A nebulizer cannot possibly deliver that much silver that fast...you would
drown.
Drinking it when your blood isn't "thirsty" and stomach acid is instantly
converting it into an insoluble molecule...doesn't do the same job.

When I had that Urinary Tract infection, I was drinking and inhaling silver
and doing so probably slowed it down...but didn't STOP it.
A little baking soda water 15 minutes before drinking the silver has
STOPPED everything I've tried it on in just a few hours...and only a cup or
two of silver.
Eye socket and sinus infection GONE, Inner ear infection making me super
dizzy..GONE.  Deep tooth infection... GONE.
It's simple, it works.

https://silverpuppy.com/article/baking-soda-makes-cs-far-more-effective-tactic-that-worked-for-me
Ode





On Sun, Aug 8, 2021 at 1:43 PM Jean Baugh  wrote:

>
> Jean Baugh 
> 12:01 PM (40 minutes ago)
> to silver-list
> Ode, would you please send your letter about baking sola and CS again?  I
> accidentally deleted it.  It can't be retrieved once it's deleted, that I
> know of.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>

Re: CS>Memorandum of Law Vacc 624.pdf - Google Drive

[Ode Coyote]

..so, I can refuse the vaccine based upon the fact that I have a color, a
sex and believe in the god of tattoos, Eliphiphtarifume, who forbids the
use of needles...and have a severe doctor allergy.
Good to know.

Ode

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 2:36 PM T. J. Garland  wrote:

>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1516MtXjKTXjzsSpR8mP4dIVNTtD4qhtW/view
>
>
> *The microbe is nothing. The terrain is everything. *
> *Louis Pasteur*
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

 Experimental gene therapy? The Moderna type shot was studied for 30 years
before it was used.

..a matter of "trust"..in people that lock YOU down "to prevent the spread"
while KNOWINGLY importing infected illegals by the thousands and shipping
them all over the country without telling anyone where they went.

TRUST

Why WASN'T it used 30 years ago? [...for Flu shots?]

 The studies started nearly 40 years ago and worked great...except, all the
test animals eventually died.
Now, suddenly...it's all figured out...no riskdoesn't leave the
injection site...doesn't get into small blood vessels or nerves or
brain...isn't anything like a Prion. [NOT]
No one knew what a Prion was till the 'Mad Cow' events in 1986
[No one knew what Dioxin was till the mid 1980s and that it was why Agent
Orange was a problem]

How long does it take for mad cow disease to show up in humans?
The incubation period for disease related to exposure to infected tissues
varies *between 1.5 years and more than 30 years*.Nov 21, 2015
Caused by misformed proteins called prions that affect the brain, in both
cows and humans the disease can be dormant for a long time before symptoms
begin to show. Some studies indicate that it might be possible for symptoms
to develop *up to 50 years after infection*

On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 1:18 PM Diane Mackey  wrote:

> What hospitals are filling up with children with Covid?  I'll call them to
> verify.
>
> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 11:35 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> Experimental gene therapy? The Moderna type shot was studied for 30 years
>> before it was used. It's not gene therapy at all.
>>
>> All Fauci wants is to help people. He is getting death threats for that,
>> the poor old man. There is no scheme.
>>
>> Still waiting for real "facts" that the shot should not be taken. Our
>> hospitals are filling up with children now, this latest variant is way more
>> contagious and deadly than previous ones and finally, the ones reluctant
>> are getting their shots.
>>
>> You science deniers have kept this around way longer than it had to be
>> here. I'm tired of being housebound because you can't play nice with
>> others. Do what is right!
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 7, 2021 at 4:56 AM pal joey  wrote:
>>
>>> Cyndiann,  I'm not going to pull any punches here. Based on my
>>> understanding of the facts, everyone got this injection now has a
>>> potentially chronic and life threatening condition. I'll just say, that
>>> your time would be better spent researching tools to counter that
>>> condition. Even if you're lucky, and don't have problems,  you're very
>>> likely going to know others who do.I want to be wrong. I sincerely
>>> hope I am. And if I'm wrong,  we can have a good laugh at my expense in a
>>> couple years. I would prefer that to the scene that we see unfolding.
>>>  No one can go wrong with learning how to help themselves and
>>> others, even if its never needed.  We're all here trying to learn to take
>>> care of ourselves, and most of us don't believe that experimental gene
>>> therapy is the way to go, no matter what. We don't feel an overwhelming
>>> threat from this "virus". Most of us have an arsenal of tools to deal with
>>> this, going back -decades. I made a conscious effort years ago, not to let
>>> people like fauci and the rest, manage my Healthcare. That is never going
>>> to happen.  And I see through their scheme as well, which is to make
>>> everyone their chronic outpatient; something they have been working on for
>>> decades.
>>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1JqxFH0opE&feature=youtu.be
>>>
>>

Re: CS>YUGE!!!

[Ode Coyote]

I think a properly equipped LAB can  identify the CCP virus, but not the
every day sort of lab and isolating it from among all the others could be a
'problem'.
The hoax part is that everyone that gets a sniffle 'IS GONNA DIE'  when
there is no 'field test' to indicate why and a 99% survival rate compared
to lock downs, masks, weird GMO Jab manipulative pressures.etc etc
etc...is way over reacting and doing massive harm far in excess of the
sickness itself.

We would have been better off lining up to get the virus with proper
preparations to limit intensity...many of which have been proven to be
effective but QUASHED by the purpletraitors of the FEAR, PANIC and CONTROL
hoaxters.

IOW  It's not the CCP virus that's not real, it's the panic and crisis
that's fakeand the 'jab' may well be the actual engineered bi-weapon
and not the virus.
Ode

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 12:20 PM Rick  wrote:

> Max,
> If the Virus cannot be isolated, already we have a case of Fraud. In the
> case of Covid, the virus was patented as a gain-of-function pathogen. We
> would expect labs around the world to have isolated it. That is not the
> case.
>
> Testing is an integral component of arriving at the Case Fatality Rate. As
> it is, the PCR test has proven to produce 95% false positives. The CDC
> ruled in July 2021 that as of December 21, 2021 the PCR test will no longer
> be used due to its inaccuracy; this 21 months into the pandemic
>
> The number of deaths reported is an integral part of the Case Fatality
> Rate. The CDC on March 24, 2020 directed medical practitioners to classify
> death of all decedents as COVID-19, even on mere assumption a patient had
> been infected by COVID. That's when the Fraud took root.
>
> The Damage caused by flawed PCR tests, the artificial death counts, and
> the alteration of the meaning of a CASE has been incalculable.
>
> The definition of a CASE is critical in arriving at the Case Fatality
> Rate. In traditional medicine, a Case has been defined as a person who is
> exhibiting the symptoms of the illness. With COVID-19 that definition was
> replaced by counting the asymptomatic persons who were testing positive
> with the faulty PCR test. The Fraud was magnified at every turn.
>
> The Nuremberg Code is very specific: There can be no coercion or
> enforcement of a medical procedure on a person.
>
> When people are not provided with transparent data on the survival rate of
> a disease, of the vaccination risks in terms of deaths and adverse events,
> of the available therapeutics, of the vaccine ingredients, of the animal
> study results (or lack thereof), of the mechanism in a gene therapeutic
> versus a traditional vaccine, of the fact that they are participating in a
> clinical trial, of the fact that variants are almost always attenuated
> versions of the original virus, and, more egregiously, that the virus was
> developed in a laboratory and in a single day, at that, then crimes against
> humanity are being perpetrated.
>
> The Nuremberg Code ensured that never again would the same atrocities be
> perpetrated by propagandists and medical practitioners who claimed to be
> simply following orders.
>
> That's why we need everyone calling out for a stop to this fraud and for
> justice for everyone who has been harmed or killed due to the vaccine.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021, 3:24 PM Max  wrote:
>
>> Rick, have you requested sars cov 2 samples from any laboratory in any
>> country?
>>
>> "We observed that only specific commercial lots of SARS CoV-2 induce
>> cytokine production"
>>
>> https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/22/14/7540
>> On 8/5/2021 12:13 PM, Rick wrote:
>>
>> Cyndi,
>> And yet when requested of any laboratory in any country, including that
>> of the CDC, they DO NOT HAVE samples of Covid-19. It simply does not exist
>> anywhere.
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>YUGE!!! Canadian Court Victory Proves Covid-19 Is A Hoax & All Restrictions Have Now Been Dropped

[Ode Coyote]

   - To test serum collected from people who have recovered from COVID-19
   to look for antibody that might block viral infections
   -  "Might Block..infections"  No proof of a specific virus or
   antibody. [Just circular evidence of 'something'.."the Bible told me so"
   ..who told the Bible, I don't know. The BIBLE did..IT says so. ]
   - To determine when people shed live virus during the disease.external
   icon  This
   information has shaped CDC’s guidance on when to discontinue
   transmission-based precautions for patients
   

   .
   - "Shed live virus"  what , ANY virus?
   - Known to shed by making a culture, but not specifically identifying
   what virus it's a culture of.  [ A BOX called COVID-19 with who knows what
   rattling around inside being "called" COVID-19 because it's in the box ]
   - There is no test to distinguish covid 19 from any other flu.
   - Like, why are symptoms so widely varied...mild to even no symptoms?
   [Everyone has something different?]
   - The "Seasonal Flu"..hundreds of specific organisms... has gone
   extinct.
   - #
   - They say that AIDS is caused by a virus, but can't make a vaccine for
   it as they say it's a SOUP of different viruses  ??? ..so, is AIDS **A**
   virus or is it a "condition" where many viruses thrivewhich is what
   "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome" means.
   -  Therefore, AIDS is NOT 'caused' by a specific virus, but the presence
   of random viruses indicates AIDS. ...and they DON'T know what 'causes' the
   "condition"...just that it's communicable, *whatever* it is. [and it
   "escaped" from a lab]
   -
   - By that metric, any flu, pick a flu and, today,  it's COVID -19and
   no traditional  virus specific vaccine can be made...because


On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 11:16 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/grows-virus-cell-culture.html
>
> *SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, was isolated in the
> laboratory and is available for research by the scientific and medical
> community*.
>
> One important way that CDC has supported global efforts to study and learn
> about SARS-CoV-2 in the laboratory was by growing the virus in cell
> culture  and
> ensuring that it was widely available. Researchers in the scientific and
> medical community can use virus obtained from this work in their studies.
>
> CDC is using SARS-CoV-2 in various ways, including the following:
>
>- To test serum collected from people who have recovered from COVID-19
>to look for antibody that might block viral infections
>- To determine when people shed live virus during the disease.external
>icon  This
>information has shaped CDC’s guidance on when to discontinue
>transmission-based precautions for patients
>
> 
>.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 5:05 PM Diane Mackey 
> wrote:
>
>> FINALLY!  Someone fought the battle to prove that they NEVER isolated the
>> virus, it doesn't exist!  Many have been saying this all along, but this
>> man fought back hard to prove his innocence and the truth!  Thank you so
>> much for this link!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2021 at 8:43 AM T. J. Garland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.bitchute.com/video/euMT6jUwXhym/
>>>
>>>
>>> "Imagine a "vaccine" so safe you had to be threatened to get it, for a
>>> virus so deadly you had to be tested to know you have it".   Anon
>>>
>>

Re: CS>Covid DOES NOT Exist -- is Flu type A -- NO Pure Virus EXISTS -- CDC NON!!

[Ode Coyote]

"Flu" is caused by a virus. COVID-19 is ALSO a Flu virus [of the common
Corona variety]..one of many different onesa bit more contagious...a
bit more risky than most, but a flu none-the-less.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:55 AM Douglas Haack 
wrote:

>
> *I have been trying to find this video -- now here it is -- the FAKE Covid
> Virus DOES Not EXIST -- CDC has admitted such . . . *
>
> *BANNED from YOUTUBE* Lab Analysis at 7 Universities Shows NO Covid . . .
>
> 
> /.  .  . . . Dr. Rob Oswald Phd: "Officially COVID-19 it's a flu and NOT a
> virus" . . . .
> “I have a PhD in virology and immunology. I'm a clinical lab scientist and
> have tested 1500 "supposed" positive Covid 19 samples collected here in S.
> California. When my lab team and I did the testing through Koch's
> postulates and observation under a SEM (scanning
>
>
> https://www.brighteon.com/875d2ef8-4dec-407c-84db-8d15fa3bb6c8
>

Re: CS>PCR Test Kaput

[Ode Coyote]

I've not heard of anyone dying in droves after following Trump...or BLM for
that matter.
"Natural Immunity" after surviving the virus is MUCH better than the
vaccine at preventing the spread.
Trump got the "jab" for show.  He didn't need it.

That so many vaccinated Texas Democrats are now infected...could be that
many just get saline water in their "jab"...for show.
The "Pelosians" SAID they weren't going to get anything associated with
Trump.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:49 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> Crisis actors? You a Trumper too? He got Covid and still got the vaccine
> for himself and his whole family before he left the White House. Meanwhile
> he almost never wore a mask in public and allowed his followers to die in
> droves. He killed a lot of people by ignoring reality.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 8:18 AM Rick  wrote:
>
>> Cyndiann Phillips,
>> Is like one of those engineered Crisis Actors that participates in the
>> propaganda that the media is spreading. Cept she seems to be assigned to
>> post here and repeat the lies we all know as scripts given to the talking
>> heads.
>> Isn't she due for a booster Covid shot by now?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 7:44 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Natural News lies all the time. Why would you believe anything on that
>>> website?
>>>
>>> I don't understand everyone's fascination with websites that
>>> intentionally don't tell the truth. Are you willing to die for it? Thanks
>>> to the unvaccinated we now have a stronger version of Covid than ever
>>> before. There goes our summer! The next variant could be much worse.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 4:49 AM Phil Morrison 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-07-25-cdc-withdraws-fraudulent-pcr-testing-protocol-used-to-falsify-covid-positives.html

>>>

Re: CS>Half of CDC, NIH, and FDA Employees Refused the Experimental COVID-19 Jabs

[Ode Coyote]

Silver water will kill it in the nail bed pretty fast, but IN the nail
itself is a different story.
Minerals get deposited in nails and hair and silver will slow down the
growth of nail fungus IN the nail itself as the fungus then has to find a
path AROUND silver particles in the nail.
 All it takes is a barrier layer dense enough to slow growth down to slower
than nail growth and the fungus infection will grow off the end to be cut
off.
 Doing that with thin fast growing nails is easy, thick slow growing nails
is much harder.

That takes a lot of absorbed silver deposited fast.

1] Neutralize your stomach acid with Baking Soda water  [empty stomach
night time]wait around 20 minutes and follow that with around 1 cup of
20 PPM or stronger EIS [CS]
 {this FLOODs the blood with silver some of which gets deposited in the
nails and hair }
Do it again in the morning before eating anything...and maybe a couple more
times during the week.
..then wait and observe.

I have VERY thick VERY slow growing toe nails and had a BAD *gnarly *infection
for years and years [in the nails themselves, not the nail bed ], but as a
side effect of doing the "Baking Soda Trick" to kill off a UTI...even MY
nails started to grow out clear of fungus  [The worst ones did the best,
still not "pretty" due to cuticle damage, but no longer peel off big chunks
after a bath. ]
Unintentional side benefit.

If you have had the fungus for a long time and it's REALLY nasty, the
cuticle may be damaged and the new nail growth not be very smooth for quite
a while.

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 6:03 AM Theresa Swift 
wrote:

> I’m looking for safe home remedy for toe nail fungus.
> HELP!
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM Gmail  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> https://welovetrump.com/2021/05/15/half-of-cdc-nih-and-fda-employees-refused-the-experimental-covid-19-jabs/
>>
>>
>> The virus was made for the “vaccine”-not the other way. Anon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>SCENAR - SCENAR Sport D

[Ode Coyote]

https://silverpuppy.com/article/zappers

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:26 PM Gmail  wrote:

> Comments?
> Clark zapper or Bare Rife clone?
>
> https://scenar.com.ru/en/products/personal-use-scenar/chans-01-scenar-m-alternative-name-ritmscenar-sport-d.html
>
>
> The vaccine was not designed for the virus, rather the virus was designed
> for the vaccine.  Anon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Moderator?

[Ode Coyote]

 Verifiable by who?
One could say that NOTHING posted here is "verifiable"

...just ask your doctor if EIS  [CS] will do anything but morph you into a
Smurf.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 11:02 AM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> It's more about them posting fake conspiracies, not that it's off topic.
> If it's not verifiable don't post it.
>
> They really don't get it how stupid they look.
>
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 8:37 AM p c  wrote:
>
>> I guess I’m a newbie - about 5yrs on this list. I love that we talk about
>> other viable things. CS is amazing. It was here that I was told to research
>> LDN.   LDN has saved my life and hopefully one day my grandson w crohns
>> will use it instead of biologics.  So many knowledge people here.  Please
>> hit delete if you don’t like the off topic messages and let the list
>> continue as is.
>> Hopefully before our list is destroyed, one of the originals will start a
>> CS list just like this that is open to talk of silver and other modalities.
>>   Thank you.  Patricia.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 23, 2021, at 6:22 AM, Ode Coyote 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Do not MIX the bicarb and CSthe bicarb is used to set up your system
>> to absorb the CS 15-20 minutes BEFORE drinking the CS.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:26 PM Rowena  wrote:
>>
>>>  I enjoy it all, and am so happy when I see some  of the old names from
>>> long ago. Also pleased to see newer names.
>>>
>>> The silver list was the first health discussion group I joined when we
>>> went on line over 20 years ago. Some names disappeared, others stayed
>>> quiet. I'm quiet, all i could contribute are thanks to the people who are
>>> active. And I save a lot of time busybodying on line when people post the
>>> gossip, the rumours. Because I thought I was soon going to be unable to
>>> conduct any kind of mail I closed down my groups to save family some
>>> trouble one day, but couldn't  bear to leave the Silver List. But I got
>>> better, and enjoy it all.
>>>
>>> I am so grateful when people mention various remedies, as I forget them
>>> otherwise. I loved the info about bicarb and CS too, and have a little jar
>>> mixed up ready. .
>>>
>>> It's unbelievable to me how much I forget so quickly. Thanks to those
>>> who repeat themselves and other people.
>>>
>>> For anyone looking for a little extra, please investigate LDN Low Dose
>>> Naltrexone. The yahoo LDN discussion groups have gone to Facebook which I
>>> don't do, but it is astonishing how many different problems are being
>>> helped with this oldish drug used in tiny quantities. I'll post some links.
>>> I follow the protocol used by cancer specialist Prof Angus Dalgleish of St
>>> George's Hospital, London, three days on and three days off, with CBD on
>>> the off days as a protocol for cancer, but there are also experienced
>>> practitiosilners in Canada and America, arising out of  research conducted
>>> over the past quarter century, Bihari being a notable name to research.  On
>>> YouTube too.
>>>
>>> I'll leave it here, but will post some links in due course.
>>>
>>> Love to you all.
>>>
>>> Rowena Down under
>>>
>>> Oh, I meant to tell Aussies ages ago that I was wrong when I mentioned
>>> Sutton's CS; I was surprised to find they use Dalyellup spring water not
>>> distilled water. And bringing distilled water home is a breeze since
>>> Refresh of Perth started selling 5 litre containers, I get mine from
>>> Woolworths.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://ldnresearchtrust.org/how-naltrexone-works   Links
>>> at bottom of page.
>>>
>>> LDN is most commonly being used for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, multiple
>>> sclerosis, myalgic encephalopathy, autoimmune thyroid diseases, and various
>>> cancers. Many autoimmune diseases seem to respond to LDN.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levo-Naltrexone is an antagonist for the opiate/endorphin receptors
>>>
>>>- This causes increased endorphin release
>>>- Increased endorphins modulate the immune response
>>>- This reduces the speed of unwanted cells growing.
>>>Dextro-Naltrexone is an antagonist for at least one, if not more immune
>>>cells
>>>- Antagonises “TLR,” suppressing cytokine modulated immune system
>>>- Antagonises TLR-mediated production of NF-kB – reducing
>>>inflammation, potentially downregulating oncogenes
>>>
>>> Taking Naltrexone in larger doses of 50-300mg seems to negate the
>>> immunomodulatory effect by overwhelming the receptors, so for the effect to
>>> work, the dose must be in the range of 0.5-10mg, usually maxing at 4.5mg in
>>> clinical experience.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: CS>Moderator?

[Ode Coyote]

Do not MIX the bicarb and CSthe bicarb is used to set up your system to
absorb the CS 15-20 minutes BEFORE drinking the CS.

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:26 PM Rowena  wrote:

>  I enjoy it all, and am so happy when I see some  of the old names from
> long ago. Also pleased to see newer names.
>
> The silver list was the first health discussion group I joined when we
> went on line over 20 years ago. Some names disappeared, others stayed
> quiet. I'm quiet, all i could contribute are thanks to the people who are
> active. And I save a lot of time busybodying on line when people post the
> gossip, the rumours. Because I thought I was soon going to be unable to
> conduct any kind of mail I closed down my groups to save family some
> trouble one day, but couldn't  bear to leave the Silver List. But I got
> better, and enjoy it all.
>
> I am so grateful when people mention various remedies, as I forget them
> otherwise. I loved the info about bicarb and CS too, and have a little jar
> mixed up ready. .
>
> It's unbelievable to me how much I forget so quickly. Thanks to those who
> repeat themselves and other people.
>
> For anyone looking for a little extra, please investigate LDN Low Dose
> Naltrexone. The yahoo LDN discussion groups have gone to Facebook which I
> don't do, but it is astonishing how many different problems are being
> helped with this oldish drug used in tiny quantities. I'll post some links.
> I follow the protocol used by cancer specialist Prof Angus Dalgleish of St
> George's Hospital, London, three days on and three days off, with CBD on
> the off days as a protocol for cancer, but there are also experienced
> practitiosilners in Canada and America, arising out of  research conducted
> over the past quarter century, Bihari being a notable name to research.  On
> YouTube too.
>
> I'll leave it here, but will post some links in due course.
>
> Love to you all.
>
> Rowena Down under
>
> Oh, I meant to tell Aussies ages ago that I was wrong when I mentioned
> Sutton's CS; I was surprised to find they use Dalyellup spring water not
> distilled water. And bringing distilled water home is a breeze since
> Refresh of Perth started selling 5 litre containers, I get mine from
> Woolworths.
>
>
> https://ldnresearchtrust.org/how-naltrexone-works   Links at
> bottom of page.
>
> LDN is most commonly being used for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, multiple
> sclerosis, myalgic encephalopathy, autoimmune thyroid diseases, and various
> cancers. Many autoimmune diseases seem to respond to LDN.
>
>
> Levo-Naltrexone is an antagonist for the opiate/endorphin receptors
>
>- This causes increased endorphin release
>- Increased endorphins modulate the immune response
>- This reduces the speed of unwanted cells growing. Dextro-Naltrexone
>is an antagonist for at least one, if not more immune cells
>- Antagonises “TLR,” suppressing cytokine modulated immune system
>- Antagonises TLR-mediated production of NF-kB – reducing
>inflammation, potentially downregulating oncogenes
>
> Taking Naltrexone in larger doses of 50-300mg seems to negate the
> immunomodulatory effect by overwhelming the receptors, so for the effect to
> work, the dose must be in the range of 0.5-10mg, usually maxing at 4.5mg in
> clinical experience.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Ode: Baking Soda w/ EIS

[Ode Coyote]

Every time till the infection is gonebut the first time always seemed
to be plenty enough to kill off what I was addressing..which WASN'T fungus.
That was an unintended *side effect* and a *massive demonstration* on just
how well the baking soda protocol works..BEYOND...expectation or even hope.

The fungus in the 'nail bed' is easy to kill.  It has a blood circulation
interface.
As for nail fungus..
Minerals get deposited in hair and nails.
With fungus growing in a solid, liquid EIS cannot get to it...BUT... a
layer of silver will be deposited in the nail itself which the fungus has a
hard time growing through, at least, slowing it down enough so as the nail
grows,  it grows off the end and gets cut off.

The silver cannot "seek and destroy" in a solid and if not really dense,
the fungus can grow around the deposited particles...the more particles
deposited closer together, the harder they are to grow around .

If your nails are really thick and grow slowly like mine, it's harder to
make a  barrier to fungus growth that will slow it down enough..doing the
baking soda thing for several days in a row to lay down a good dense layer
of silver is probably a good idea.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 12:44 PM JD  wrote:

> Ode,
>
> OK, thanks.  You mentioned one dose as a barrier.  Does that mean you
> recommend taking the BS before the EIS 1 time, and then taking straight
> EIS?  Or, do you continue with the BS/EIS combination for every dose until
> the infection is gone?
>
> Thanks
> On 4/18/2021 7:34 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> The exact ratio isn't important..just gotta neutralize the acid and absorb
> the salt that results and wait a little 'while' for the thirst part to kick
> in.
> It's knocked out EVERYTHING I've thrown it at..eye socket
> infection...inner ear infection...feeling a bit off, might be coming down
> with something..all gone by morning.
> toenail fungus..takes a lot longer but one dose seems to put a barrier
> layer in there.
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 3:25 AM Kirsteen Wright <
> kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure Ode will reply when he sees this but I remember this, I made a
>> note of it. It was a quarter to a half teaspoon of baking soda in half a
>> cup water. Drink, wait a few minutes then drink about a cup of EIS. Repeat
>> now and then.
>>
>> It was originally talking about urine infections and I've used it very
>> successfully for those but I'm sure it would help other things as well,
>>
>> Cheers
>> Kirsteen
>>
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, 06:07 JD,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ode,
>>>
>>>
>>> In past, I recall you mentioning using baking soda before taking EIS
>>> from the Silver Puppy.  I was wondering the specifics.
>>>
>>> 1) How much baking soda to take mixed with how much water?
>>>
>>> 2) How long to wait before taking EIS?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>Ode: Baking Soda w/ EIS

[Ode Coyote]

The exact ratio isn't important..just gotta neutralize the acid and absorb
the salt that results and wait a little 'while' for the thirst part to kick
in.
It's knocked out EVERYTHING I've thrown it at..eye socket infection...inner
ear infection...feeling a bit off, might be coming down with something..all
gone by morning.
toenail fungus..takes a lot longer but one dose seems to put a barrier
layer in there.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 3:25 AM Kirsteen Wright <
kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm sure Ode will reply when he sees this but I remember this, I made a
> note of it. It was a quarter to a half teaspoon of baking soda in half a
> cup water. Drink, wait a few minutes then drink about a cup of EIS. Repeat
> now and then.
>
> It was originally talking about urine infections and I've used it very
> successfully for those but I'm sure it would help other things as well,
>
> Cheers
> Kirsteen
>
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, 06:07 JD,  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ode,
>>
>>
>> In past, I recall you mentioning using baking soda before taking EIS
>> from the Silver Puppy.  I was wondering the specifics.
>>
>> 1) How much baking soda to take mixed with how much water?
>>
>> 2) How long to wait before taking EIS?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>>   Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
>>
>> Unsubscribe:
>>   
>> Archives:
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>>
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>> List Owner: Mike Devour 
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Silver cancer bullet?

[Ode Coyote]

...didn't mean to include the SPAM warning..it's safe.
ode

On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:40 AM Ode Coyote 
wrote:

>
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2095610/Silver-bullet-cancer-Metal-kill-tumours-better-chemotherapy-fewer-effects.html
>
> Silver bullet for cancer: Metal can kill some tumours better than
> chemotherapy with fewer side effects
>
> By Anthony Bond
> Updated: 16:00 EDT, 2 February 2012
>
>
> Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and with
> potentially fewer side effects, new research claims.
>
> Scientists say that old wives tales about the precious metal being a
> ‘silver bullet’ to beat the Big C could be true.
>
> The metal already has a wide range of medicinal uses and is a common
> antiseptic, antibiotic and means of purifying water in the third world.
> Good news: Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and
> with potentially fewer side effects, new research has claimed
>
> Good news: Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and
> with potentially fewer side effects, new research has claimed
>
> And British researchers now say that silver compounds are as effective at
> killing certain cancer cells as a leading chemotherapy drug, but with
> potentially far fewer side-effects.
>
> They compared it to Cisplatin, currently used to treat a wide variety of
> cancers, but known to have harsh side effects including nausea, vomiting
> and even kidney damage.
>
> Silver is used already in everyday products such as deodorant with no
> known side-effects, and could make for a potentially cheaper alternative to
> platinum-based Cisplatin.
>
>
> The moving moment a six-year-old girl clips her cancer-stricken
> mother's hair to prepare her for chemotherapy
>
>
> Researchers from the University of Leeds conducted lab tests which exposed
> breast and colon cancer cells to various silver-based chemicals over a six
> day period.
>
> Results, published in journal Dalton Transactions, showed that these
> silver-compounds were ‘as effective as Cisplatin’ at killing cancer with
> potentially fewer side effects.
>
> While the team are still unsure about how exactly silver battles cancer,
> they think its effectiveness may be caused by the structure surrounding
> silver atoms, known as its ligand.
> Way forward: Researchers from the University of Leeds found that silver
> could be used to help defeat breast cancer
>
> Way forward: Researchers from the University of Leeds found that silver
> could be used to help defeat breast cancer
>
> They think this may help release the silver ion into cells when it enters
> the body, killing any cancer.
>
> Study author Dr Charlotte Willans plans to spend the next year looking
> closely at what effect silver has on both cancerous and healthy cells, and
> whether it could be a safe and effective new anti-cancer drug.
>
> She said: 'It’s certainly an exciting discovery, although I think we have
> a lot of work to do in the future. It opens the doors in terms of what we
> can do and investigate.
>
> 'Getting these results also gives us the opportunity we need to apply for
> funding to take the research further.
>
> 'This could lead to a cheaper, less toxic alternative to current
> treatments for cancer.'
>
> Explaining the research in greater detail, Dr Willans added: 'As many are
> unfortunately aware, chemotherapy can be a very gruelling experience for
> the patient.
>
> 'Finding effective, yet non-toxic drugs is an ongoing problem, but these
> preliminary results are an important step in solving it.
>
> 'Our research has looked at the structure which surrounds a central silver
> atom. This "shrubbery" is what determines how reactive it is and what it
> will interact with.
>
> 'Our research has used different types of these ligands to see which is
> the most effective against cancer cells.'
>

CS>Silver cancer bullet?

[Ode Coyote]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2095610/Silver-bullet-cancer-Metal-kill-tumours-better-chemotherapy-fewer-effects.html

Silver bullet for cancer: Metal can kill some tumours better than
chemotherapy with fewer side effects

By Anthony Bond
Updated: 16:00 EDT, 2 February 2012


Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and with
potentially fewer side effects, new research claims.

Scientists say that old wives tales about the precious metal being a
‘silver bullet’ to beat the Big C could be true.

The metal already has a wide range of medicinal uses and is a common
antiseptic, antibiotic and means of purifying water in the third world.
Good news: Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and
with potentially fewer side effects, new research has claimed

Good news: Silver can kill some cancers as effectively as chemotherapy and
with potentially fewer side effects, new research has claimed

And British researchers now say that silver compounds are as effective at
killing certain cancer cells as a leading chemotherapy drug, but with
potentially far fewer side-effects.

They compared it to Cisplatin, currently used to treat a wide variety of
cancers, but known to have harsh side effects including nausea, vomiting
and even kidney damage.

Silver is used already in everyday products such as deodorant with no known
side-effects, and could make for a potentially cheaper alternative to
platinum-based Cisplatin.


The moving moment a six-year-old girl clips her cancer-stricken
mother's hair to prepare her for chemotherapy


Researchers from the University of Leeds conducted lab tests which exposed
breast and colon cancer cells to various silver-based chemicals over a six
day period.

Results, published in journal Dalton Transactions, showed that these
silver-compounds were ‘as effective as Cisplatin’ at killing cancer with
potentially fewer side effects.

While the team are still unsure about how exactly silver battles cancer,
they think its effectiveness may be caused by the structure surrounding
silver atoms, known as its ligand.
Way forward: Researchers from the University of Leeds found that silver
could be used to help defeat breast cancer

Way forward: Researchers from the University of Leeds found that silver
could be used to help defeat breast cancer

They think this may help release the silver ion into cells when it enters
the body, killing any cancer.

Study author Dr Charlotte Willans plans to spend the next year looking
closely at what effect silver has on both cancerous and healthy cells, and
whether it could be a safe and effective new anti-cancer drug.

She said: 'It’s certainly an exciting discovery, although I think we have a
lot of work to do in the future. It opens the doors in terms of what we can
do and investigate.

'Getting these results also gives us the opportunity we need to apply for
funding to take the research further.

'This could lead to a cheaper, less toxic alternative to current treatments
for cancer.'

Explaining the research in greater detail, Dr Willans added: 'As many are
unfortunately aware, chemotherapy can be a very gruelling experience for
the patient.

'Finding effective, yet non-toxic drugs is an ongoing problem, but these
preliminary results are an important step in solving it.

'Our research has looked at the structure which surrounds a central silver
atom. This "shrubbery" is what determines how reactive it is and what it
will interact with.

'Our research has used different types of these ligands to see which is the
most effective against cancer cells.'

Re: CS>Distilled water

[Ode Coyote]

If the LED shifts from green to red and back, it's doing its' job  of
switching polarity.
The wire will NOT stay shiny over time due to pitting and reformed silver
dust on the surface...but that isn't "crud" and needn't be disturbed..

If you press the button for 5 seconds, it will run in DC mode and you'll
get black crud on one side and white frothy crud on the other.
The older gen has a switch to run in DC mode.

Ode

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:31 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Now that I think about it, this never happened in the beginning, for
> years, so maybe the machine is breaking down.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:29 AM Kirsteen Wright <
> kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have the silverpuppy and I've never done more than wipe the wires down
>> with a soft cloth. I've never had any crud in the 6 or 7 years I've been
>> using it. It automatically keeps switching polarity.
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Mar 2021, 16:21 Marshall,  wrote:
>>
>>> If you reverse the polarity on the wires every now and then, it will not
>>> build up any crud at all.
>>>
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>> On 3/25/2021 5:00 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 'NICE' brand of distilled water from Walgreens now says the water is
>>> sourced from wells or municipal water.
>>>
>>> I've found a way to stop the crud buildup on the silver wires and that
>>> is to use a Scotch Brite scrubber pad to clean the wires.
>>>
>>> Jean
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: CS>Cannabidiol Inhibits SARS-CoV-2 Replication and Promotes the Host Innate Immune Response | bioRxiv

[Ode Coyote]

It has been said that CBD is useful for treating cancer too.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:34 PM Gmail  wrote:

>
> https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.10.432967v1
>
>
> Absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Lord Acton
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

Distilled water is bottled semi locally and one distiller may be supplying
several brands, so the same brand will not be the same in different parts
of the country and it would be quite rare if even the same locality/ same
brand didn't vary between jugs.
Distillers have  a maintenance cycle.

I usually use Food Loin house brand and have bought two jugs right next to
each other where one was 'marginal' and the other was PERFECT.

Water is a crap shoot with the odds highly in your favor.
If something weird happens and nothing else was new, get a new jug [any
brand]

ode

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 2:54 PM Cyndiann Phillips 
wrote:

> You can use another brand but test it to be sure it is real distilled with
> zero particles in it. I've used the WalMart brand in the past.
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 1:22 PM RaVen Sequoia  wrote:
>
>> I couldn't find Crystal Springs Steamed Distilled Water in my local
>> stores nor in Amazon. Suggestions in where I can find this?
>>
>> RaVen
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:28 PM David Snowdon  wrote:
>>
>>> Mike's website is still available using the WayBack machine:
>>>
>>> <
>>>
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20090902011605/http://www.geocities.com/mrmonett/shingles/0shin.htm
>>>  >
>>>
>>> Warning: there are some rather gruesome pictures showing how bad
>>> shingles can affect the body.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ---
>>> abela...@atlasnova.com wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ode,
>>> >
>>> > Remember Mike Monnet ?  He made some good contributions to our quest
>>> and
>>> > I believe that shingles is what drove him.  The higher ionic value is
>>> > really counts when we talk about transdermal application.
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> >
>>> > Arnold
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
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>> Quote:Open Space Principles:
>>
>>- Whoever comes are the right people.
>>- Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
>>- Whenever it starts is the right time.
>>- Whenever it’s over, it’s over.
>>- Wherever it happens is the right place.
>>-
>>- Law of Personal Mobility: "If you aren't learning or contributing
>>where you are at, go somewhere else!"
>>
>>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

Yes, I remember Mike, but don't recall what happened.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:37 AM  wrote:

> Ode,
>
> Remember Mike Monnet ?  He made some good contributions to our quest and I
> believe that shingles is what drove him.  The higher ionic value is really
> counts when we talk about transdermal application.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Arnold
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ode Coyote 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 4:54 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>
>
>
>
> My 96 year old dad had shingles twice.
>
> The first time, he went to the doc and it took 3 months to get rid of
> them..and they came back after a year or so.
>
> That time, he drank a pint of 20 PPM EIS and kept a soaked cloth on the
> blisters for several hours.
>
> He said the pain and itching was gone in 3 hours and in 3 days, he
> couldn't tell he had had shingles.
>
>
>
> HIGHLY recommended: []..from personal
> experience and NO issue addressed that WASN'T gone by morning...if not
> sooner.
>
>
>
> Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda into about 1/2 cup water
>
> Drink it down, wait 10-15 minutes.
>
> Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.
>
> Repeat now and then.
>
>
>
> *What that does:*
>
> The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
> [BURP ! ]
>
> The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to
> flush the excess salt out with.
>
> Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
> or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:44 PM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
> What do you mean by "successfully"?  I've treated two family members, one
> by him ingesting 250ml home produced EIS a day, morning and night, ( and
> pain killers), when he had it on one side of his head and down to behind
> the ear, the other was around the midriff right around to the back (on one
> side).  To treat the second one I kept her shirt/singlet or whatever damp
> for days with EIS to minimize scarring as the blisters burst etc, 2 Nurofen
> pain killers for 6 days, also she was still ingesting our morning ritual,
> around 20ml every morning before breakfast, swishing around in the mouth
> under the tongue of course.
>
>
>
> From the above, and from my experience, you have to just ride it out for a
> fortnight or so, but, no scarring, one with no residual  pain upon
> recovery, the other one had minimal residual pain (Postherpetic Neuralgia)
> for another couple of weeks after recovery, (midriff), but her bout of
> Shingles was pretty ugly I have to say.
>
>
>
> N.
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* cat4...@aol.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 March 2021 3:09 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>
>
>
>
>
> My friend has shingles and my question to all you knowledgeable people
>
> .Has anyone ever treated shingles with C/S successfully?
>
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

Once

On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 10:55 AM Alan Jones  wrote:

> Ode, thanks for sharing that.  To be clear, he drank a pint of EIS once?
> Or was it once per day until the problem resolved?
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 6:54 AM Ode Coyote 
> wrote:
>
>> My 96 year old dad had shingles twice.
>> The first time, he went to the doc and it took 3 months to get rid of
>> them..and they came back after a year or so.
>> That time, he drank a pint of 20 PPM EIS and kept a soaked cloth on the
>> blisters for several hours.
>> He said the pain and itching was gone in 3 hours and in 3 days, he
>> couldn't tell he had had shingles.
>>
>> HIGHLY recommended: []..from personal
>> experience and NO issue addressed that WASN'T gone by morning...if not
>> sooner.
>>
>> Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda into about 1/2 cup water
>>
>> Drink it down, wait 10-15 minutes.
>>
>> Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.
>>
>> Repeat now and then.
>>
>>
>>
>> *What that does:*
>>
>> The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
>> [BURP ! ]
>>
>> The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to
>> flush the excess salt out with.
>>
>> Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
>> or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:44 PM Neville Munn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you mean by "successfully"?  I've treated two family members,
>>> one by him ingesting 250ml home produced EIS a day, morning and night, (
>>> and pain killers), when he had it on one side of his head and down to
>>> behind the ear, the other was around the midriff right around to the back
>>> (on one side).  To treat the second one I kept her shirt/singlet or
>>> whatever damp for days with EIS to minimize scarring as the blisters burst
>>> etc, 2 Nurofen pain killers for 6 days, also she was still ingesting our
>>> morning ritual, around 20ml every morning before breakfast, swishing around
>>> in the mouth under the tongue of course.
>>>
>>> From the above, and from my experience, you have to just ride it out for
>>> a fortnight or so, but, no scarring, one with no residual  pain upon
>>> recovery, the other one had minimal residual pain (Postherpetic Neuralgia)
>>> for another couple of weeks after recovery, (midriff), but her bout of
>>> Shingles was pretty ugly I have to say.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* cat4...@aol.com 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 March 2021 3:09 AM
>>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
>>> *Subject:* CS>
>>>
>>>
>>> My friend has shingles and my question to all you knowledgeable people
>>> .Has anyone ever treated shingles with C/S successfully?
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Alan Jones
>
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>

Re: CS>

[Ode Coyote]

My 96 year old dad had shingles twice.
The first time, he went to the doc and it took 3 months to get rid of
them..and they came back after a year or so.
That time, he drank a pint of 20 PPM EIS and kept a soaked cloth on the
blisters for several hours.
He said the pain and itching was gone in 3 hours and in 3 days, he couldn't
tell he had had shingles.

HIGHLY recommended: []..from personal
experience and NO issue addressed that WASN'T gone by morning...if not
sooner.

Dissolve 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda into about 1/2 cup water

Drink it down, wait 10-15 minutes.

Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.

Repeat now and then.



*What that does:*

The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
[BURP ! ]

The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to flush
the excess salt out with.

Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption and little
or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"



On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 9:44 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> What do you mean by "successfully"?  I've treated two family members, one
> by him ingesting 250ml home produced EIS a day, morning and night, ( and
> pain killers), when he had it on one side of his head and down to behind
> the ear, the other was around the midriff right around to the back (on one
> side).  To treat the second one I kept her shirt/singlet or whatever damp
> for days with EIS to minimize scarring as the blisters burst etc, 2 Nurofen
> pain killers for 6 days, also she was still ingesting our morning ritual,
> around 20ml every morning before breakfast, swishing around in the mouth
> under the tongue of course.
>
> From the above, and from my experience, you have to just ride it out for a
> fortnight or so, but, no scarring, one with no residual  pain upon
> recovery, the other one had minimal residual pain (Postherpetic Neuralgia)
> for another couple of weeks after recovery, (midriff), but her bout of
> Shingles was pretty ugly I have to say.
>
> N.
>
> --
> *From:* cat4...@aol.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 9 March 2021 3:09 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* CS>
>
>
> My friend has shingles and my question to all you knowledgeable people
> .Has anyone ever treated shingles with C/S successfully?
>

Re: CS>Questions - Can Someone Answer Re Calcium Deposits in Water Distiller

[Ode Coyote]

Soak distiller parts in white vinegar...rinse with pure water and discard
first batch out.


On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:28 PM jj  wrote:

> There is a lot of conflict here - can we just settle down and get back
> to healing? It doesn't matter who is right - we all have opinions - but
> it doesn't matter. What matters is how much love we have in our hearts.
>
>
> 1 - What to do with calcium deposits in a water distiller for CS?
>
> 2 - Does anyone know anything about making stabilized oxygen?
>
>
> Thank you,
> Joy
>
>
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Re: CS>Bicarbonate Proves to be Cheapest Fastest Safest COVID Treatment

[Ode Coyote]

 Doctors and health care officials should, but do not know or even want to
know, that viral infections are unanimously sensitive to pH changes
. The simple
alkalinization of the blood reduces the cells’ susceptibility to viruses.
OKso how does neutralizing the PH of baking soda with [acidic] lemon
juice change the PH of the blood?
ode

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:36 AM Gmail  wrote:

>
>
> https://drsircus.com/general/bicarbonate-proves-to-be-cheapest-fastest-safest-covid-treatment/
>
>
>
>- The brutal reality is that the dollar was worth 1/40th ounce of gold
>fifty years ago and now is worth 1/1,900th ounce of gold. Someday, perhaps
>soon, it will be worth 1/10,000th ounce of gold.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>THE REAL FACTS ON COLLOIDAL SILVER

[Ode Coyote]

He was also using a borrowed unregulated/uncontrolled SOTA Instruments
generator...little better than a 3 nines at the time.
SOTA has improved their design since then.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:20 AM Neville Munn 
wrote:

> There are conflicting reports on that Paul Karensen bloke drinking the
> amount of his concoction a day.  I have found, years ago, over 1 litre a
> day.  Most reports state 10 ounces a day, which in my language is over 1/4
> of a litre, or 295.74 millilitres.  Maybe this should be added so people
> know how much to ingest is way too much, just to give some perspective on
> what he was making and drinking .
>
> N.
> --
> *From:* Marshall Dudley  on behalf of Marshall <
> mdud...@king-cart.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 February 2021 2:39 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: CS>THE REAL FACTS ON COLLOIDAL SILVER
>
> On 2/18/2021 8:00 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Lifted from  http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html
> This is really OLD [~18 years old?] and contains a few 'errors' and
> omissions.
>
> \
> If you would delineate them, I will make corrections.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> Ode Coyote
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:09 PM Gmail  wrote:
>
>
> https://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm
>
>
> Mark Twain said, "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member
> of Congress...ah, but I repeat myself."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>THE REAL FACTS ON COLLOIDAL SILVER

[Ode Coyote]

OK  I'll see what I can do there

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 10:40 PM Marshall  wrote:

> On 2/18/2021 8:00 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Lifted from  http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html
> This is really OLD [~18 years old?] and contains a few 'errors' and
> omissions.
>
> \
> If you would delineate them, I will make corrections.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> Ode Coyote
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:09 PM Gmail  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm
>>
>>
>> Mark Twain said, "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a
>> member of Congress...ah, but I repeat myself."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>THE REAL FACTS ON COLLOIDAL SILVER

[Ode Coyote]

Lifted from  http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html
This is really OLD [~18 years old?] and contains a few 'errors' and
omissions.

Ode Coyote

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:09 PM Gmail  wrote:

>
> https://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm
>
>
> Mark Twain said, "Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member
> of Congress...ah, but I repeat myself."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>How about that?

[Ode Coyote]

Silver is an EPA approved surface disinfectant and has been for years.
MANY silver products are sold claiming elimination of germssocks,
underwear, paint with silver additive, silver infused plastic..you name it.
FDA approval is not required for hardware store products.
 Hand sanitizer is not a "drug"
That silver kills germs is well known and not regulated.
But the FDA does not allow silver to be claimed as a "Proven Safe and
Effective"  'cure for any disease'.
Which *doesn't* mean 'Proven UNSAFE or INEFFECTIVE'
...it all just says it hasn't been tested. [and won't be because big pharma
does all the testing and there's no money in it to pay for all that testing]
But silver 'compounds' HAVE been  in the pharmacopeia for decades, very
commonly used in burn wards etc.

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 10:46 PM Neville Munn  wrote:

> Went into a hardware store the other day, on the counter as I was walking
> out I noticed a box of tubes, like toothpaste tubes, clear with clear gel
> inside, on closer inspection the tubes were titled "Sanitiser
> Silver"...WTF?  Is that the most ridiculous thing you have ever seen?  What
> hypocrisy from the Establishment, they have never stopped criticising,
> banning, censoring or hiding silver efficacy for years, and yet NOW they
> have the bloody audacity to allow it to be put in tubes and sell it to the
> public.  I guess our TGA allowed some manufacturer to make it and sell it,
> and make money on it.  This goes from the sublime to the ridiculous.
>
> Thank Christ I know, and others here, know what silver can/does treat
> besides ones hands.
>
> Actually, when I saw these I was quite angry.  I felt like stuffing that
> box up someones place where the sun doesn't shine.
>
> Just a little rant.
>
> Hi Ho Silver 
>
> N.
>

Re: CS>ODE: Clean Silver Puppy

[Ode Coyote]

Clarity and details do help troubleshooting, ey?
Ode

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 5:30 PM JD  wrote:

> Thanks, that worked.
> On 1/24/2021 7:43 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> That can be scrubbed off with AJAX or COMET and a toothbrush...try not to
> get any in the electrode sockets.
> Mind the water level in the future.
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:14 PM JD  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ode,
>>
>> Just to be clear, this is plated on the bottom of the Silver Puppy, not
>> the container. I tried putting H2O2 on a cloth and wiping it off the
>> Silver Puppy, but that didn't do anything.  Can I put a little H2O2 in a
>> dish (say 1/8 inch) and put the Silver Puppy in that and let it soak for a
>> while?  Would that work?  Would that harm the Silver Puppy?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2021 8:23 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>>
>> What is on the bottom is harmless and 'not' in the water, but unsightly.
>> Sometimes it gets really STUCK as plated on silver and silver oxides...
>> even scrubbing won't remove it.
>> Hydrogen Peroxide dissolves most of it..BUT... rinse any leftover
>> peroxide out with distilled water and let the container dry ABSOLUTELY dry
>> as even a TRACE of peroxide will make for major changes in the next batch..
>> Ode
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:41 AM MaryAnn Helland 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JD -- I'm not Ode, but most of us just wipe it out with a clean paper
>>> towel.
>>> MA
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:54:13 AM CST, JD 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ode,
>>>
>>> I have a Silver Puppy.  There is black (probably Silver) on bottom.  It
>>> is heavier over where the wires are.   What is the best way to clean
>>> that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>ODE: Clean Silver Puppy

[Ode Coyote]

That can be scrubbed off with AJAX or COMET and a toothbrush...try not to
get any in the electrode sockets.
Mind the water level in the future.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 4:14 PM JD  wrote:

> Hi Ode,
>
> Just to be clear, this is plated on the bottom of the Silver Puppy, not
> the container. I tried putting H2O2 on a cloth and wiping it off the
> Silver Puppy, but that didn't do anything.  Can I put a little H2O2 in a
> dish (say 1/8 inch) and put the Silver Puppy in that and let it soak for a
> while?  Would that work?  Would that harm the Silver Puppy?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 1/23/2021 8:23 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> What is on the bottom is harmless and 'not' in the water, but unsightly.
> Sometimes it gets really STUCK as plated on silver and silver oxides...
> even scrubbing won't remove it.
> Hydrogen Peroxide dissolves most of it..BUT... rinse any leftover peroxide
> out with distilled water and let the container dry ABSOLUTELY dry as even a
> TRACE of peroxide will make for major changes in the next batch..
> Ode
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:41 AM MaryAnn Helland 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi JD -- I'm not Ode, but most of us just wipe it out with a clean paper
>> towel.
>> MA
>>
>> On Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:54:13 AM CST, JD 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Ode,
>>
>> I have a Silver Puppy.  There is black (probably Silver) on bottom.  It
>> is heavier over where the wires are.   What is the best way to clean that?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
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>>

Re: CS>Why I use CS - And not EIS

[Ode Coyote]

Are you then referring to "Silver Oxide" nanoparticles?
metallic silver has no oxygen.

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 3:25 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

> Hi Victor, your comments welcome, as always.
>
> The reason I find CS superior to EIS is in the handling of "oxygen" pure
> and simple.
>
> We know most disease results from oxygen deficiency, including cancer.
> Silver nanoparticles are loaded with oxygen, and are able to travel
> throughout the body offloading active oxygen on abnormal cell sites and
> pathogens, which disables their respiratory systems facilitating recovery.
>
> Silver ions in EIS lack this simple and obvious ability to provide "active
> oxygen".
>
> Also, I find adding anything to CS, such as clay, zeolite, or whatever,
> counterproductive.  CS works best straight  from the generator.
>
> This is a simplified rendition of a complicated process.  Hope this helps.
>
> PLM
> Chemist
>

Re: CS>ODE: Clean Silver Puppy

[Ode Coyote]

What is on the bottom is harmless and 'not' in the water, but unsightly.
Sometimes it gets really STUCK as plated on silver and silver oxides...
even scrubbing won't remove it.
Hydrogen Peroxide dissolves most of it..BUT... rinse any leftover peroxide
out with distilled water and let the container dry ABSOLUTELY dry as even a
TRACE of peroxide will make for major changes in the next batch..
Ode

On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 7:41 AM MaryAnn Helland 
wrote:

> Hi JD -- I'm not Ode, but most of us just wipe it out with a clean paper
> towel.
> MA
>
> On Friday, January 22, 2021, 09:54:13 AM CST, JD  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Ode,
>
> I have a Silver Puppy.  There is black (probably Silver) on bottom.  It
> is heavier over where the wires are.   What is the best way to clean that?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Re: CS>Climate Scam continues .... N2O 300 worse than CO2 -- nobody talks !!!!

[Ode Coyote]

Over the past 500 million years, the earth has not had ice caps for longer
than it has had ice caps.
Average temperatures have peaked at 90 F   [32 C ] 5 times and down to ~ 45
F [7 C]   7 times, that last time being relatively recent history
We are actually on a warming trend from an ice age low with a range within
periodic variations that lasted 100 million years from some 250 million
years ago.

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/graph-from-scott-wing-620px.png

Preliminary results from a Smithsonian Institution project led by Scott
Wing and Brian Huber, showing Earth's average surface temperature over the
past 500 million years.  For most of the time, global temperatures appear
to have been too warm (red portions of line) for persistent polar ice caps.
The most recent 50 million years are an exception. Image adapted from
Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 4:42 PM Phil Morrison 
wrote:

>
> The present global average temperature is above 2°C (based on
> preindustrial 1750), heading for 3°C in the next few years.
>
> Humans go extinct at ~3°C, and all life on earth vanishes at 5°C.
>
> Please visit web site below for global average temperature studies.
>
>
> http://arctic-news.blogspot.com/
>

Re: CS>Alan Christianson's take on Colloidal Silver

[Ode Coyote]

I think this vaccine is different than any other in the past.
 Normally, they weaken or find a weak strain of a virus and inject some of
it [live or dead] and your body develops antibodies  that are effective on
both it and the target virus.
 Small pox was prevented by giving people cow pox...but giving people cow
pox when they already HAD small pox didn't cure the small pox.  [If you
were already sick, tough luck]
 I think these vaccines are misnamed and mainly consist of genetically
engineered or artificial antibodies that both kill and prevent...like
skipping a step with a lab doing what your body was supposed to.

What are some of the ingredients in Pfizer's Covid 19 vaccine?
The vaccine consists of messenger RNA and four lipid nanoparticles

Lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) are the most clinically advanced non-viral gene
delivery system. Lipid nanoparticles safely and effectively deliver nucleic
acids, overcoming a major barrier preventing the development and use of
genetic medicines

Dictionary
lip·id

any of a class of organic compounds that are fatty acids or their
derivatives and are insoluble in water but soluble in organic solvents.
They include many natural oils, waxes, and steroids


Blood Albumin is a protein similar to a lipid, perhaps to carry silver,
copper, zinc [which will all disable a virus] and maybe gold nanoparticles?
[like mild silver protein *MSP*, only now, mild silver/copper/zinc/gold
lipid? ]
Around 20 years ago, a high school buddy who  heads a research department
at a "major pharm company" told me he was researching "metallic
nanoparticles".
 That was about 2 years after I gave him a CS generator...and he won't talk
to me anymore.
 [Sucks when a garage tinkerer *accidentally* upstages all those PHDs]
Ode

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 5:07 PM Nenah Sylver  wrote:

> Alan Christianson is a naturopath who has some very good ideas about how
> to heal, alongside some very inaccurate advice as he often cautions his
> audience about the presumed dangers of what are actually very safe and even
> necessary substances. He has a habit of trying to get people to buy his
> books and listen to his podcasts by offering sensationalized headlines.
>
>
>
> His latest newsletter, below, advertises a podcast about Colloidal Silver.
> I don't know Christianson's position about Colloidal Silver and don't have
> the time or patience to listen (I'd rather speed read transcripts of
> podcasts). However, I am passing on this newsletter I just received in case
> someone else would like to listen.
>
>
>
> *From:* Dr. Alan Christianson 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 8, 2020 4:36 AM
> *Subject:* Before You Consume Colloidal Silver, Read This.
>
>
>
> Hey there,
>
> Dr. C here. Many of you have asked about colloidal silver. It has
> apparently made a big comeback in the pandemic era.
>
> There have been several new studies about it.
>
> The main questions they have sought to answer have been: 1. Is it safe?
> And #2, is it an effective antimicrobial? If so, against which organisms
> and at which doses?
>
> In addition to these points, some companies claim that some forms of
> silver are safer than others and more effective.
>
> Thankfully the science is pretty clear. Please give this episode a good
> listen before using any silver products.
>
>
>
> Click Here for Apple Podcasts
> 
> , Google Play
> ,
> Spotify
> 
> & YouTube.
> 
>
> To your best health,
>
> Dr. C
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>CS - Why CS Works Better

[Ode Coyote]

Thing is, silver ions immediately form silver chloride on contact with
stomach acid and silver chloride is almost insoluble, thus harder to absorb
making it tough to get enough silver in there to get the job done. [Or
maybe it does absorb, but is far less efficient as now it has to find a way
to re-ionize ]
Ions in the bloodstream seek out pathogens like soldiers on a mission, but
don't "live" very long before becoming silver chloride in THAT
location...but...they don't have to live long and dead ion killed pathogens
shed ions to kill again.
 Silver chloride also ionizes in the chemical soup [reinforcements
returning from R&R ] and does it where it counts [vs doing nothing in the
poop chute], but it's a slower process and not quite as efficient.

*Tactic that worked for me:*  Treatment of UTI, obvious clearing of blood
in urine, relief of severe burning and pain within 4 hours.

1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda in about 1/2 cup water

Drank it down, waited a few minutes.

Follow that with "Silver Water" maybe a cup.

Repeat now and then.



*What that does:*

The Baking Soda converts stomach acid into salt and carbon dioxide gas
[BURP ! ]

The salt absorbs into the blood making it "thirsty" for more water to flush
the excess salt out with.

Add "Silver Water" to satisfy the thirstinstant absorption [of ions]
and little or no stomach acid to make "Silver Chloride"

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:13 AM James Osbourne Holmes <
jamesosbournehol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It appears to me I lost track of things some time ago.
>
> James Osbourne Holmes
> a/k/a *Red Pill Media*
> American State National
> *http://t heamericanstatesassembly.net
> *
> http://annavonreitz.com
> h ttp://signinamerica.com
>
> This private email and any attachment(s) is covered by the Electronic
> Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC 25-10-2521 and is for the sole use of
> the intended recipient and contains privileged and/or confidential
> information. No monitoring of my email or other means of surveillance,
> electronic and otherwise, is permitted and I reserve all my rights, without
> recourse and without prejudice, nunc pro tunc.  I do not consent to anyone
> tampering with, altering or delaying any incoming or outgoing communication.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:42 AM  wrote:
>
>> https://theartofmakingcolloidalsilver.com/ionic-versus-particulate/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Phil Morrison 
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2020 9:58 PM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* CS>CS - Why CS Works Better
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Why CS works better than EIS
>>
>>
>>
>> https://purevon.com/effectiveness
>>
>

Re: CS>Covid Nasal Spray -- anti-Covid ACTIVE Ingredient -- similar to CS (Colloid of Silver)

[Ode Coyote]

John D... a friend of mine..told me a story:

A woman he knows had been using CS daily to address some ongoing issue and
worked in a building with 140 other employees.
 COVID took out 139 of them...EVERYONE, except her.

If you GET COVID 19  and kill it before it becomes serious, do you still
have the antibodies? [That's what vaccinations do and there are many MANY
accidentally vaccinated people  AKA  "survivors" ]
If you use CS and get a vaccination, do you develop antibodies? [Probably
not]

It's very likely that 90% of people who survived COVID 19 never went to a
doctor or even knew they had it.
If an "accidentally immune" person gets the shot, it will do nothing.

Just because you didn't get a shot doesn't mean you are not immuneand
just because you did get a shot doesn't mean your immunity came from it.
I suspect your body may treat the vaccine like a few CCs of water.

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 7:44 AM Shelby  wrote:

> Well this would be good news. I don’t want to take the vaccine but I am in
> a profession that may be forced. Since I like to pay bills and eat and all
> that other good stuff I am in a situation. However, I carry an epi pen and
> an inhaler. I have had anaphylaxis over the years to several things and
> even some we couldn’t pin point. From the current reports in the UK, I may
> be excused for now from the vaccine. I would think they would issue us some
> sort of vaccine record to prove we have had it. They wouldn’t just take our
> word for it. I wouldn’t mind doing a nasal spray as much if I had to keep
> my job. However, I put CS in a nasal spray bottle when I go out and I put
> it in a nebulizer at home. So far I have been fine. I would like to thing
> the CS has been keeping me healthy because I have gone most place I want to
> and I have had and been to gatherings. I have flown on a plane and taken a
> train half way across the country. I have been dancing a few times and I
> don’t wear a mask unless requested by the store.
>
>
>
> Shelby
>
>
>
> *From:* Douglas Haack 
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 29, 2020 10:39 PM
> *To:* Silver-List 
> *Cc:* Kym Borrett 
> *Subject:* CS>Covid Nasal Spray -- anti-Covid ACTIVE Ingredient --
> similar to CS (Colloid of Silver)
>
>
>
> From:
>
>
>
> *Integrity Research Institute**  >*
>
>
>
> .. a great bioenergetics answer to the recent complex discussion
> about vaccines and the question of whether they can prevent the initial
> infection from a coronavirus. Medical researchers at Columbia University
> have come up with the answer in the form of a nasal spray. Specifically, it
> is a intranasal fusion inhibitory lipopeptide that prevents direct contact
> SARS-CoV-2 transmission as reported on bioRiv: *DOI:
> 10.1101/2020.11.04.361154*
> 
>  Similar
> to colloidal silver spray, it may prevent infection in people exposed to
> the new coronavirus, since it blocks the usual pathway for the virus to
> enter the body. “People who cannot be vaccinated or do not develop immunity
> will particularly benefit from the spray. The antiviral is easily
> administered and, based on the scientists’ experience with other
> respiratory viruses, protection would be immediate and last for at least 24
> hours. The scientists hope to rapidly advance the preventative approach to
> human trials with the goal of containing transmission during this pandemic.”
>
>
>
> Enjoy .. in SILvation,
>
>
>
> DH in OZ
>
>
> 
>
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>

Re: CS>CS - Why CS Works Better

[Ode Coyote]

*Ions, not particles, make silver toxic to bacteria *
*Rice University researchers report too small a dose may enhance microbes’
immunity *

HOUSTON – (July 11, 2012) – Rice University researchers have settled a
long-standing controversy over the mechanism by which silver nanoparticles,
the most widely used nanomaterial in the world, kill bacteria.

Their work comes with a Nietzsche-esque
 warning: Use enough. If you don’t
kill them, you make them stronger.

Scientists have long known that silver ions, which flow from nanoparticles
when oxidized, are deadly to bacteria. Silver nanoparticles are used just
about everywhere, including in cosmetics, socks, food containers,
detergents, sprays and a wide range of other products to stop the spread of
germs.

But scientists have also suspected silver nanoparticles themselves may be
toxic to bacteria, particularly the smallest of them at about 3
nanometers. *Not
so*, according to the Rice team that reported its results this month in the
American Chemical Society journal Nano Letters
.

In fact, when the possibility of ionization is taken away from silver, the
nanoparticles are practically benign in the presence of microbes, said
Pedro Alvarez, George R. Brown Professor and chair of Rice’s Civil and
Environmental Engineering Department .

“You would be surprised how often people market things without a full
mechanistic understanding of their function,” said Alvarez, who studies the
fate of nanoparticles in the environment and their potential toxicity,
particularly to humans. “The prefix ‘nano’ can be a double-edged sword. It
can help you sell a product, and in other cases it might elicit concerns
about potential unintended consequences.”

He said the straightforward answer to the decade-old question is that the
insoluble silver nanoparticles do not kill cells by direct contact. But
soluble ions, when activated via oxidation in the vicinity of bacteria, do
the job nicely.

To figure that out, the researchers had to strip the particles of their
powers. “Our original expectation was that the smaller a particle is, the
greater the toxicity,” said Zongming Xiu, a Rice postdoctoral researcher
and lead author of the paper. Xiu set out to test nanoparticles, both
commercially available and custom-synthesized from 3 to 11 nanometers, to
see whether there was a correlation between size and toxicity.

“We could not get consistent results,” he said. “It was very frustrating
and really weird.”

Xiu decided to test nanoparticle toxicity in an anaerobic environment –
that is, sealed inside a chamber with no exposure to oxygen — to control
the silver ions’ release. He found that the filtered particles were a lot
less toxic to microbes than silver ions.

Working with the lab of Rice chemist Vicki Colvin, the team then
synthesized silver nanoparticles inside the anaerobic chamber to eliminate
any chance of oxidation. “We found the particles, even up to a
concentration of 195 parts per million, were still not toxic to bacteria,”
Xiu said. “But for the ionic silver, a concentration of about 15 parts per
billion would kill all the bacteria present. That told us the particle is
7,665 times less toxic [to pathogens] than the silver ions, indicating a
negligible toxicity.”

“The point of that experiment,” Alvarez said, “was to show that a lot of
people were obtaining data that was confounded by a release of ions, which
was occurring during exposure they perhaps weren’t aware of.”

Alvarez suggested the team’s anaerobic method may be used to test many
other kinds of metallic nanoparticles for toxicity and could help fine-tune
the antibacterial qualities of silver particles. In their tests, the Rice
researchers also found evidence of hormesis
; E. coli became stimulated by
silver ions when they encountered doses too small to kill them.

“Ultimately, we want to control the rate of (ion) release to obtain the
desired concentrations that just do the job,” Alvarez said. “You don’t want
to overshoot and overload the environment with toxic ions while depleting
silver, which is a noble metal, a valuable resource – and a somewhat
expensive disinfectant. But you don’t want to undershoot, either.”

He said the finding should shift the debate over the size, shape and
coating of silver nanoparticles. “Of course they matter,” Alvarez said,
“but only indirectly, as far as these variables affect the dissolution rate
of the ions. The key determinant of toxicity [to pathogens] is the silver
ions. So the focus should be on mass-transfer processes and
controlled-release mechanisms.”

“These findings suggest that the antibacterial application of silver
nanoparticles could be enhanced and environmental impacts could be
mitigated by modulating the ion release rate, for example, through
responsive polymer coatings,” Xiu said.

Co-authors of the paper are postdoctoral r

Re: CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList

[Ode Coyote]

Half of the ones I get are in the spam folder
ode

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:54 PM Diane Mackey 
wrote:

> Doug, your sent date is in the future.  I have 11/23 at 10:52 PM, while
> your email says 11/24 at 12:15 PM.  Not sure if your pc is not dated
> correctly or the eskimo server.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:37 PM Neville Munn 
> wrote:
>
>> You should have one now Doug .
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Douglas Haack 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 November 2020 12:15 PM
>> *To:* Silver-List 
>> *Subject:* CS>Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list
>> SilverList
>>
>> Test -- I'm not receiving any emails from the list SilverList
>>
>

Re: CS>TDS meter

[Ode Coyote]

Can't be done with a meter.

 To quote Frank Key, "You are spinning your wheels"
You can 'guess' at it, factor in some vague variables and find the
ballparks parking lot.
To find home base you listen for the cheering crowd and you still don't
know which team is up at bat till you get there.

Even a half million dollar AA Spectrophotometer averages 3 runs of a sample
and may STILL be way off.

 Nice part is, you get to use an 'X'  megaton nuke to vaporize the entire
ballpark and the whole section of the city it's in, all without hurting the
crowd or the teams, without leaving a cater, or even scorching any cars or
the grass on the infield.
 How many megatons is irrelevant.
 If one didn't do it, use 20 or 50...the difference only being how much
water went with it. [and the water, itself, is more dangerous than the
silver that's in it ]


Ode

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:17 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thank you.  I am just looking for a way to measure the strength (ppm) of
> the EIS that I make.
> PT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 06:00:54 PM EST, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> There are many meters and ways to measure water conductivity.  Once you
> have a reading with one meter, that reading is easily converted to reading
> in any other measurement system.
>
> https://www.lenntech.com/calculators/conductivity/tds_engels.htm
>
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Re: CS>TDS meter

[Ode Coyote]

I have abandoned using meters as a measure of anything over around 10 uS
and gone to using the Faraday equation as a predictor.
 With 1 milliamp on the electrodes, [achieved at around 6 uS] running a
quart sized batch...just figure 2 PPM per hour after conductivity related
auto shutdown.

Even this is an averaging of meter reading uS over time plots which run
pretty much linear up to 30 uS and then start to slew low as
supersaturation triggers significant realtime unreadable silver content
formation...and Faraday equation prediction which only says how much silver
leaves the electrodes, but not what happens to it afterwards.

The "Silver 7"  [with switches on top] was set to shut down at 20
uS...according to a meter...with the vagaries of meters and electronic
components at +/- 1% accuracy stacking up and including  temperature
variations affecting both readings *and* readable silver content...so may
be 15 to 18 uS [but 'who knows' how much actual PPM total silver ]

But also based upon AA Spectrophotometer readings by Frank Keys Colloidal
Science Laboratory where there was a very close match between my reading of
12 uS to his results of 12 PPM total silver. [within a decimal]

Other labs [such as the NC State Water Lab which does nothing BUT test
water]  NOT specializing in ionic/colloid mixes specifically of silver,
returned as high as 50 PPM which were WAY off base.

 It's all about making an "Eddicated Guess" which is maybe 5 steps beyond a
wild guess...and better than trying to count how many Sasquatch there are
in a nature preserve by listening to tree knocking.

With the  'real world' [sometimes called reality] where too much is highly
unlikely to be a problem and no one ever  knows how much is too little
until it doesn't do the job...and absorption/delivery to any given place is
a total unknowable in any given situation... an eddicated guess with a
random multiplier gets the job done.
...and overkill?  It doesn't take a backhoe to clean up.
If a garden hose will wash the driveway clean, no problem using a pressure
washer either.It's only just [silver] water and the  [Multi-celled
organism] fence next to the driveway is safe.

You flush the grime down the drain till the water runs clear...right?

ode

On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 9:49 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thanks Ode this is already over my head.  Is there really any reason then
> to get one of these meters?  Would it just be better for me to use manual
> swap after the auto swap shuts off on my silverpuppy?
> PT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 4, 2020, 08:19:37 AM EST, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> You'll get to the parking lot of the ball park at 10, but nothing over 30
> means anything at all.
>
> The problem with using meters on solutions with limited solubility.
> [ESPECIALLY "PPM" meters set up to measure salt water which is very highly
> soluble]
> The ionic portion of CS has very limited solubility and some portion will
> convert into an un-measureable colloid depending on variable environmental
> conditions.
>  The Silver is still in the water, but a meter won't detect it.
> The instant power is off, conductivity starts dropping.
> The stronger you made the solution, the more it will drop...by around 40%
> Each time you bump it back up, it will drop by about 1/2 as much as the
> previous time, but anything over 30 uS will drop back to 30 uS over time.
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 4:50 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
> > Thanks Ode.  I just want to know if I am making 10ppm or 50ppm EIS.
> Will the conductivity meter you mentioned do that?  If not I guess I will
> just have to keep 'winging' it!
> >
> > Just for general information.  I purchased the TDS meter on amazon.
> When I contacted them about it being defective they refunded me my purchase
> price and told me to trash the meter.
> > PT
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, November 2, 2020, 08:05:55 AM EST, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It should have been calibrated at the factory...calibration can be
> pretty tricky and  requires a calibration fluid
> > Send it back...it's defective.
> >  For EIS, get a conductivity meterTDS meters, in general,  'suck'
> [made for salt water..silver isn't salt]
> > HM Digital  EC-3 is a decent meter... their COM-100 is more interesting
> including conductivity and scales for 3 different types of salt solutions
> > THEY ALL don't do what you may think or want them to do in EIS.. a very
> dynamic and ever changing substance.
> >  Not COMPLETELY useless, but not

Re: CS>TDS meter

[Ode Coyote]

You'll get to the parking lot of the ball park at 10, but nothing over 30
means anything at all.

The problem with using meters on solutions with limited solubility.
[ESPECIALLY "PPM" meters set up to measure salt water which is very highly
soluble]
The ionic portion of CS has very limited solubility and some portion will
convert into an un-measureable colloid depending on variable environmental
conditions.
 The Silver is still in the water, but a meter won't detect it.
The instant power is off, conductivity starts dropping.
The stronger you made the solution, the more it will drop...by around 40%
Each time you bump it back up, it will drop by about 1/2 as much as the
previous time, but anything over 30 uS will drop back to 30 uS over time.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 4:50 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thanks Ode.  I just want to know if I am making 10ppm or 50ppm EIS.  Will
> the conductivity meter you mentioned do that?  If not I guess I will just
> have to keep 'winging' it!
>
> Just for general information.  I purchased the TDS meter on amazon.  When
> I contacted them about it being defective they refunded me my purchase
> price and told me to trash the meter.
> PT
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2020, 08:05:55 AM EST, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> It should have been calibrated at the factory...calibration can be pretty
> tricky and  requires a calibration fluid
> Send it back...it's defective.
>  For EIS, get a conductivity meterTDS meters, in general,  'suck'
> [made for salt water..silver isn't salt]
> HM Digital  EC-3 is a decent meter... their COM-100 is more interesting
> including conductivity and scales for 3 different types of salt solutions
> THEY ALL don't do what you may think or want them to do in EIS.. a very
> dynamic and ever changing substance.
>  Not COMPLETELY useless, but not far from it.
>
> Ode
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 1:50 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
> > My first TDS meter just arrived.  It talks about calibration but with no
> directions as how to do this.  Since it is showing 862ppm and it has not
> been dipped into anything I am anticipating that this needs to be done.
> > Would someone point me in the right direction?
> > I've searched but have not found good directions.
> > Thanks.
> > PT
> >
> >
> >
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: CS>TDS meter

[Ode Coyote]

Anywhere is fine.

Ode

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 7:06 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> Ode does it matter where you buy it from? Amazon has them pretty cheap
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2020, 08:05:52 AM EST, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It should have been calibrated at the factory...calibration can be pretty
> tricky and  requires a calibration fluid
> Send it back...it's defective.
>  For EIS, get a conductivity meterTDS meters, in general,  'suck'
> [made for salt water..silver isn't salt]
> HM Digital  EC-3 is a decent meter... their COM-100 is more interesting
> including conductivity and scales for 3 different types of salt solutions
> THEY ALL don't do what you may think or want them to do in EIS.. a very
> dynamic and ever changing substance.
>  Not COMPLETELY useless, but not far from it.
>
> Ode
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 1:50 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:
>
> My first TDS meter just arrived.  It talks about calibration but with no
> directions as how to do this.  Since it is showing 862ppm and it has not
> been dipped into anything I am anticipating that this needs to be done.
> Would someone point me in the right direction?
> I've searched but have not found good directions.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
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Re: CS>TDS meter

[Ode Coyote]

It should have been calibrated at the factory...calibration can be pretty
tricky and  requires a calibration fluid
Send it back...it's defective.
 For EIS, get a conductivity meterTDS meters, in general,  'suck' [made
for salt water..silver isn't salt]
HM Digital  EC-3 is a decent meter... their COM-100 is more interesting
including conductivity and scales for 3 different types of salt solutions
THEY ALL don't do what you may think or want them to do in EIS.. a very
dynamic and ever changing substance.
 Not COMPLETELY useless, but not far from it.

Ode

On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 1:50 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> My first TDS meter just arrived.  It talks about calibration but with no
> directions as how to do this.  Since it is showing 862ppm and it has not
> been dipped into anything I am anticipating that this needs to be done.
> Would someone point me in the right direction?
> I've searched but have not found good directions.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
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Re: CS>Tel's Silver Salve

[Ode Coyote]

https://www.ingredientstodiefor.com
Search Results for emulsifiers

Ode

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 11:53 PM Diane Mackey 
wrote:

> I use a stick hand mixer when I make salves, creams and lotions.  I assume
> you need to melt the beeswax, coconut oil and  then blend them together
> with the CS until well dispersed and hopefully, that will resolve the issue.
>
> Diane
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 11:48 PM Lynn Greene 
> wrote:
>
>> I have the c. silver, beeswax and some coconut oil on a small tea warmer.
>> It will not emulsify.
>> Lynn
>>
>> > On Oct 17, 2020, at 9:44 AM, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > Before he died Tel sent me the formula for his Silver Salve.  This has
>> been the best salve ever and I am running out so I want to duplicate it.  I
>> also want to share the formula so it doesn't get lost to time...
>> >
>> > Tel’s Silver Salve
>> >
>> > Super Silver Salve & 8 Oils
>> >
>> > 40% Colloidal Silver
>> >
>> > 50% Organic Beeswax-
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Only Trace amounts of all 8 oils (I'm thinking one drop of each except
>> Coconut Oil):
>> >
>> > 1.  Coconut Oil
>> >
>> > 2.  Emu Oil
>> >
>> > 3.  Oregano Oil
>> >
>> > 4.  Eucalyptus Oil
>> >
>> > 5.  Frankincense Oil
>> >
>> > 6.  Tea Tree Oil
>> >
>> > 7.  Cedarwood Oil
>> >
>> > 8.  Immuno-Boost Oil - I don't know what this one is but I imagine that
>> something along the line of Young Living's Thieves should work.
>> >
>> > My question to the Members of this group is, "How does one make 40%
>> Colloidal Silver (or EIS)?
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> > PT
>> >
>> >
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>>

Re: CS>Tel's Silver Salve

[Ode Coyote]

40% silver to water is about one 10 ounce bar in a liter jar...ain't gonna
happen.
Tel must have meant 40 PPM which is possible.
Ode

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 5:21 PM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thanks, Jean.  I have a SilverPuppy from Ode.  I hope he will respond.
> Which device do you have that will make up to 50%?
> PT
>
> Rev. PT Ferrance, L.Ac.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 17, 2020, 04:02:20 PM EDT, Jean Baugh <
> oldglorytexa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On the other hand, perhaps Tel had a machine that could make 40% CS.  I
> bought one that can make up to 50% CS.  Even if not, it sounds like the
> stronger the CS, the better.
>
> Jean
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:51 PM Tony Moody  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 17 Oct 2020 at 16:44, PT Ferrance wrote about :
> >
> > Subject : CS>Tel's Silver Salve
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Before he died Tel sent me the formula for his Silver Salve.  This has
> been the best salve ever and I am running out so I want to duplicate it.  I
> also want to share the formula so it doesn't get lost to time...
> >
> >
> >
> > Tel’s Silver Salve
> >
> >
> >
> > Super Silver Salve & 8 Oils
> >
> > 40% Colloidal Silver
> >
> > 50% Organic
> Beeswax-
> >
> >
> >
> > Only Trace amounts of all 8 oils (I'm thinking one drop of each except
> Coconut Oil):
> >
> > 1.  Coconut Oil
> >
> > 2.  Emu Oil
> >
> > 3.  Oregano Oil
> >
> > 4.  Eucalyptus Oil
> >
> > 5.  Frankincense Oil
> >
> > 6.  Tea Tree Oil
> >
> > 7.  Cedarwood Oil
> >
> > 8.  Immuno-Boost Oil - I don't know what this one is but I imagine that
> something along the line of Young Living's Thieves should work.
> >
> >
> >
> > My question to the Members of this group is, "How does one make 40%
> Colloidal Silver (or EIS)?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > PT
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> > Hallo PT,
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess what Tel meant is to make up the mix using 40% of the usual EIS,
> ( which will be in the order of 10pp to 13ppm )
> >
> >
> >
> > So if you made a cup full;
> >
> > use half a cup of beaswax,
> >
> > almost half a cup of colloidal silver
> >
> > and add the drops of oil
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm there must be some sort of method to be used to get the beeswax and
> silver water to emulsify? then add the oils by stirring in ?
> >
> >
> >
> > OK,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: CS>Making CS

[Ode Coyote]

There are a few minor errors in those videos.
https://silverpuppy.com/article/youtube-videos

https://silverpuppy.com/article/instructions-silver-9-6120

ode

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:25 AM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> This is on youtube on how to assemble and use hope it helpsIntroduction
> to Silver9
>
> Introduction to Silver9
>
> A demonstration of the assembly of Silver Puppy Colloidal Silver Generator
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 13, 2020, 12:00:48 AM EDT, Williams <
> gwms...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> HELP!!   Is there anyone in the New York City area with a Silver Puppy
> that can help me get mine going  Had it two years and have made only
> made two batches.   Don't even know how I did it.   The problem is the
> level of the water-- too high  too low?But still can't seem to do what
> everyone else does with ease … Make CS in the Silver Puppy.  Gladys
>

Re: CS>sliver puppy

[Ode Coyote]

Yea well..it was $19 and change just to send it back...so, big profits
there. [The bank was laughing all the way to me]
But...good service pays off in many ways, not all of them immediately
apparent.
Ode

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 12:33 PM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I got a good laugh out of this.  First of all, a scammer sure would work
> cheap for only $20?  Then, the deep humor of thinking about it having to
> clear customs.
>
> Jean
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:28 AM Lynn Greene 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I know me, too. That’s at least two of us in the world, anyway.
>>
>> No I didn’t see that email. Probably went to Russia.
>> Or China.
>>
>> Right. I’ll start looking for it in 4 years.
>>
>>
>> Thank you for this email. We’ll be very happy to have colloidal silver
>> again.
>> The puppy has been wonderful and keeps us healthy.
>>
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 5:27 AM, Ode Coyote 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I know me.[Here in NC]
>>  I suppose you didn't see the email with your tracking number.
>> Your tracking number is www.USPS.com <http://www.usps.com/>  LZ 991 599
>> 731 US
>>
>> *September 9, 2020, 10:43 am *
>> USPS in possession of item
>> MONCURE, NC 27559
>>
>> Your item arrived at a facility in CANADA on September 22, 2020 at 6:15
>> pm.
>> Status *In-Transit*
>>
>> September 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm
>>
>> Arrived at Facility
>>
>> CANADA
>>
>>
>> ..then about 4 years to clear customs..right?
>>
>>
>> Ode
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:50 AM Lynn Greene 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hello; Does anyone know Ode personally? Where he lives, for example?
>>> > A month ago, after an inquiry about where to send my machine for
>>> repairs, I received an email
>>> > from someone claiming to be Ode, telling me to send $20 American cash
>>> and my machine to
>>> > North Carolina.
>>> >
>>> > I haven’t heard anything back and I wonder if a scammer impersonated
>>> Ode.
>>> >
>>> > Lynn
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: CS>sliver puppy

[Ode Coyote]

I know me.[Here in NC]
 I suppose you didn't see the email with your tracking number.
Your tracking number is www.USPS.com  LZ 991 599 731 US

*September 9, 2020, 10:43 am *
USPS in possession of item
MONCURE, NC 27559

Your item arrived at a facility in CANADA on September 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm.
Status *In-Transit*

September 22, 2020 at 6:15 pm

Arrived at Facility

CANADA


..then about 4 years to clear customs..right?


Ode

On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 11:50 AM Lynn Greene 
wrote:

>
>
> >
> > Hello; Does anyone know Ode personally? Where he lives, for example?
> > A month ago, after an inquiry about where to send my machine for
> repairs, I received an email
> > from someone claiming to be Ode, telling me to send $20 American cash
> and my machine to
> > North Carolina.
> >
> > I haven’t heard anything back and I wonder if a scammer impersonated Ode.
> >
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Re: CS>Shade of pink

[Ode Coyote]

Pink once, purple a few times.
Generally it's water contamination producing a silver compound that carries
that pigment color...happens most often after drinking directly from the
storage bottle...saliva backwash after eating select foodstuffs..
EIS in a dogs bowl almost always turns purple in a few days.

Yellow, if it's the same color in every light source, is suspended Silver
Oxide...a Pigment.
Just a few drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide will strip the Oxygen out of the
Silver Oxide and the yellow color vanish over night leaving behind a
heavier TE.

If it changes when near other colors, then it's Rayleigh light scattering
from particle size ..a reflection or tintand yellow is a dominant color
in most houses, from wood and cardboard etc.
 Take it outside and look 'through' it in direct sunlight in an open area.

You can, of course, have both sources of yellow in the same batch.

Ode

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 2:46 AM André Juthe  wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I have a question. I know that the optimal CS is a complete pellucid
> solution and when the CS gets degraded or when the solution is not
> sufficiently dispersed it can get a shade of yellow, it has happened a
> couple of times (I use silvergen as the silvergenerator). However, now one
> of my bottles with CS has got a shade of pink(!) Has this happened to
> anybody else? What does it mean?
> /André
>
>
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> andre.ju...@gmail.com
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>

Re: CS>HCL and silver absorption

[Ode Coyote]

Drinking ionic silver [EIS] INSTANTLY converts it to Silver Chloride
the *moment
*it contacts stomach acid.
Neutralizing stomach acid with baking soda water makes absorption and
effectiveness AT LEAST 50 times better.[I've heard 1000X]
The silver ions still turn into silver chloride in the blood stream, but it
takes a bit of time...meanwhile... they are on a "shock and awe"  search
and destroy mission and work VERY FAST.
Silver Chloride will still kill germs etc, just not as fast...so good for
"mopping up"

Probiotics work in the gut. They might do better if they don't encounter
strong acid on the way therebut once there they should replicate
themselves and establish a colony?

Ode

On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 8:40 AM  wrote:

> Victor,
> Do you know if HCL in the stomach is turning the EIS we take orally into
> silver chloride and if so how much of the EIS are we actually absorbing?
>  Is it better to keep the EIS in the mouth for a few minutes before
> swallowi g?  Looking forward to your response.   Thanks.
>
> Bob
>
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>
> On Fri Sep 04 05:24:57 PDT 2020 Victor Cozzetto wrote:
> Hi Reid,
> It is no problem. The CS will be absorbed into your blood or
> neutralized within 30 minutes. We don't really get any CS into the gut
> unless we use special protocols, like mixing with aloe vera juice, using
> baking soda first, etc. Your probiotic foods and supplements will be fine
> if you keep them just 30 minutes apart.
>
> Victor
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>
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 5:34 PM Reid Harvey < 
>
>  
>
> reidharvey7...@gmail.com
>
> > wrote:
>
>> Greetings All,
>>
>> I've started taking the EIS/CS twice daily because of course, swishing it
>> around in the mouth prevents infection of the gums.  I could always spit
>> the CS out afterwards but that seems like a waste.  So I swallow it on the
>> theory that it boosts the immune system.  Am I mistaken?
>>
>> The reason I'm posting to the discussion is that I want to take
>> probiotics, like the capsules of 60 billion.  My question is, if I take the
>> probiotic 2 hours after swallowing the CS, am I killing the probiotics.  Or
>> is there a better approach to doing both?
>>
>

Re: CS>generator

[Ode Coyote]

Not working as in, won't light up at all?

It might be a broken wire in the power supply plug.
If you have any other power supplies that will plug in, 12 volts and
up...try one.

Yes, it can be repaired.
Send a $20 bill [cash] with the gen and power supply and your address to :
Coyote Zenterprizes
PO Box 13
 Moncure NC 27559

If it's a simple fix, some of that $20 will be returned in cash as well.

On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 5:48 PM Lynn Greene  wrote:

> Hello. I’ve had my silver puppy since 2015. It worked great but is not
> working now. Soldering the wires did not fix the problem. I’m in Canada,
> and I know there are mail problems in the States. Also, are you out of
> North Carolina now? I thought you were previously in the Pacific Northwest.
>
> Since I've had the machine, I had to wiggle the cord at the machine end to
> get it to work, but now it needs repair. Can it be repaired?
> What should I do next?
> Thanks, Lynn Greene
>
> 250-493-6955
>
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Re: CS>Hemorrhoid HELPP

[Ode Coyote]

Prep H and a "butt plug" to hold things in a relaxed not under pressure
without support state where they should be while it heals up

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:22 AM Reid Harvey 
wrote:

> I just turned 70 and that seems to be around the time the body begins
> giving out.  Does EIS/ CS help with hemorrhoids?  For other reasons the
> Beck Protocol seems to make sense as well.  Silverlisters, you are the salt
> of the earth.
>

Re: CS>silver rods

[Ode Coyote]

The whitish patina is highly divided silver [aka 'dust' or micro rough
surface ]
 Leave it be.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 8:55 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thank you, Ode.  I read that if I started the process with some eis
> already added it would reduce the time to make it.  Since without that
> addition it takes about 5-6 hours I guess I am good.  I only use distilled
> water but I did recently change the brand.
>
> I have no yellow light.  Only one light that swaps red and green.
>
> Do I need to do anything to the silver rods to remove the whitish patina?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, 07:21:51 AM EDT, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It should take  AT LEAST 6 hours to do a quart or the water isn't good
> enough.
>  Some contaminants in water can kick off reactions with the silver or
> become involved with the silver until it gets used up.
> If it's doing that, time can actually increase as the results aren't
> conductive and won't contribute to the Auto Off triggering...but the water
> may actually appear grey with a very heavy TE. [Tyndall Effect]
>
> TE  is always a variable...it's not a result of what the 'generator' is
> doing, but relates to what is happening AFTER the gen does its thing in the
> environment it's working in.
>  The 'generator' makes ions and nothing BUT ions..and you can't see ions
> at all.
> ..and it's the ions that do most of the 'work' the fastest.
>
> Even with a heavy TE, at least 85% of the silver content is still
> ionic...so..TE isn't much of anything to worry about.
> The yellow color is due to the oxidation of some of the ions.
>  Some water contaminants can kick that reaction into play..with no way to
> tell 'what' is in water.
>  The stronger you make the EIS, the more sensitive to stray reactions it
> becomes.
> Silver Oxide suspended in the water is harmless...unsightly, but harmless.
>
> With the variances in water,"normal' covers a fairly wide piece of
> territory.
>
> Want something different?...change the water.
>
> Adding not more than 2 or 3 Drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide per Quart to the
> water when the Yellow LED starts blinking and letting  the generator run
> longer will increase the Colloidal [vs Ionic] Content [Do not reset/unplug
> the generator when doing this as you will now be making non conductive
> colloids that meters and the generator cannot detect and it may not ever
> turn itself off ...or enter programmed mode. ]
>
>  Even a trace of H2O2 changes EVERYTHNG…let jar completely dry between
> batches.
>
>
> Ode
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:12 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:
>
> If I start with some eis already in the jar when I fill it with distilled
> water 2-3 hours.  If I start with straight distilled then longer... maybe 5
> or 6?  Your equipment is so reliable I kind of set it and forget it for a
> bit and haven't kept track of times in quite awhile.
>
> The interesting thing, to me, is that when I dry off the rods now they
> leave no black residue on the paper towel.  They used to leave black
> marks.  Is there anything that needs to be done to them to remove the white
> patina (sort of) on them?
>
> The Tyndall line used to be fine and tight and now it is wider and fuzzy.
>
> Thanks.
> PT
>
> .
>
>
> On Monday, July 20, 2020, 07:12:49 AM EDT, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How long is it taking to run a 10 PPM batch?
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:46 AM PT Ferrance 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Lately I've noticed that when I clean my rods with a paper towel
> nothing comes off of them.  Also no black speckles in the eis and no light
> yellow color.  Laser shows a wider line and can almost see speckles in the
> line... not the nice tight line I used to get from my silver puppy.
>
> Any ideas how to get things back to normal?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>

Re: CS>Q for Ode, et al

[Ode Coyote]

Baking soda DOES react with the silver making it light sensitive.
 It's a pretty slow reaction taking several hours of light exposure.
[ I tested Dr Marxs claim years ago, made a  BEAUTIFULLY clear batch using
a DC gen and I started to "eat crow" online as it sat on the window
sill...it turned a thick cloudy milky grey just before I hit the 'send'
button.

Ferreting out a formula for making silver glaze for pottery from Silver
Acetate, Silver Carbonate was being used as the source material to make the
Silver Acetate.
 Adding in Distilled white vinegar to the Silver Carbonate suspension
[following the instructions], the cloudy grey went back to crystal clear
indicating that highly soluble Silver Acetate had been the result]

I do not know if Silver Carbonate is made while the generator is running or
if it takes the addition of light to kick the compound into existence..but
it DOES happen.

 Put a few drops of H2O2 in some of that red batch and see if it clears up
over night...or some vinegar?

ode

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 11:04 AM James Osbourne Holmes <
jamesosbournehol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am using Dr. Marx's CSPro Max device.
> The mechanical timer fell over and jammed and the batch ran overnight.
> The rods were slightly pitted.  Bruce said to run a bit longer and it would
> produce a usable batch.  I did about 13 minutes instead of 11.  The batch
> has a slight red tint to the usual gold.  It has remained stable for
> several months.
> I will appreciate your...or anyone's comments.
> Thank you for your attention.
>
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Re: CS>silver rods

[Ode Coyote]

It should take  AT LEAST 6 hours to do a quart or the water isn't good
enough.
 Some contaminants in water can kick off reactions with the silver or
become involved with the silver until it gets used up.
If it's doing that, time can actually increase as the results aren't
conductive and won't contribute to the Auto Off triggering...but the water
may actually appear grey with a very heavy TE. [Tyndall Effect]

TE  is always a variable...it's not a result of what the 'generator' is
doing, but relates to what is happening AFTER the gen does its thing in the
environment it's working in.
 The 'generator' makes ions and nothing BUT ions..and you can't see ions at
all.
..and it's the ions that do most of the 'work' the fastest.

Even with a heavy TE, at least 85% of the silver content is still
ionic...so..TE isn't much of anything to worry about.
The yellow color is due to the oxidation of some of the ions.
 Some water contaminants can kick that reaction into play..with no way to
tell 'what' is in water.
 The stronger you make the EIS, the more sensitive to stray reactions it
becomes.
Silver Oxide suspended in the water is harmless...unsightly, but harmless.

With the variances in water,"normal' covers a fairly wide piece of
territory.

Want something different?...change the water.

Adding not more than 2 or 3 Drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide per Quart to the
water when the Yellow LED starts blinking and letting  the generator run
longer will increase the Colloidal [vs Ionic] Content [Do not reset/unplug
the generator when doing this as you will now be making non conductive
colloids that meters and the generator cannot detect and it may not ever
turn itself off ...or enter programmed mode. ]

 Even a trace of H2O2 changes EVERYTHNG…let jar completely dry between
batches.


Ode

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 9:12 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> If I start with some eis already in the jar when I fill it with distilled
> water 2-3 hours.  If I start with straight distilled then longer... maybe 5
> or 6?  Your equipment is so reliable I kind of set it and forget it for a
> bit and haven't kept track of times in quite awhile.
>
> The interesting thing, to me, is that when I dry off the rods now they
> leave no black residue on the paper towel.  They used to leave black
> marks.  Is there anything that needs to be done to them to remove the white
> patina (sort of) on them?
>
> The Tyndall line used to be fine and tight and now it is wider and fuzzy.
>
> Thanks.
> PT
>
> .
>
>
> On Monday, July 20, 2020, 07:12:49 AM EDT, Ode Coyote <
> silverpuppy1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> How long is it taking to run a 10 PPM batch?
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:46 AM PT Ferrance 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, Lately I've noticed that when I clean my rods with a paper towel
> nothing comes off of them.  Also no black speckles in the eis and no light
> yellow color.  Laser shows a wider line and can almost see speckles in the
> line... not the nice tight line I used to get from my silver puppy.
>
> Any ideas how to get things back to normal?
> Thanks.
> PT
>
>

Re: CS>silver rods

[Ode Coyote]

How long is it taking to run a 10 PPM batch?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:46 AM PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Hi, Lately I've noticed that when I clean my rods with a paper towel
> nothing comes off of them.  Also no black speckles in the eis and no light
> yellow color.  Laser shows a wider line and can almost see speckles in the
> line... not the nice tight line I used to get from my silver puppy.
>
> Any ideas how to get things back to normal?
> Thanks.
> PT
>

Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Ode Coyote]

 10% of WHAT?

Is that +/- 10% of the max read range or +/- 10% of 1 PPM? [See the
problem?]

+/- 10% of 100% is like 10 PPM and that's a big chunk of 15 PPM.
 "Specs" can be tricky. [They don't always say what you think they do]

*Silver Range* 0.000 to 1.000 mg/L (ppm)   [But 15 PPM is WAY OVER that
range and +/- 10% has to do with the instrument, not the reagent]


 The Hanna meter calibration fluid has a temperature deviation chart on it,
but the meter specs say the meter is 'temperature compensated'
..so, why the chart?

It took a MONTH going round and round with Hanna Tech for them to say it's
the temperature of the METER that is compensated for...not the calibration
sample. [After telling me I was too stupid to ask questions and saying I
didn't see what I was seeing]
..and if the meter is colder or warmer than the sample, that dog hunts all
over the place as it warms or cools the sample.
 Holding the sachet in your hand while calibrating the meter screws it ALL
up as the reading climbs and climbs before your eyes.

Finally figuring all that out [on my own, thank you], their sachel proved
their big bottle of "reagent" was off by exactly 50%[around $30 worth]
and they wouldn't replace it.

I learned the hard/long way to make sure both the meter and the sample are
at the *same *temperature...and STAY that way while using the meter. [THEN
refer to the temperature deviation chart]
How easy is it to just SAY that in the first place ?   DUH
[But NOOOso, maybe even Hanna Tech didn't know that?]

HM Digital meters have a thermometer built in.

A really BIG Thermometer is a TherPOPiter? [;-)]

ode

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:20 AM Marshall  wrote:

> The unit measures between 0 and 1 ppm. I have to dilute it to get it  in
> that range.  Specifications give an accuracy of 10%, so 60% to 90% error is
> way out of line.
>
> Marshall
>
> On 7/8/2020 8:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
>  Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low concentrations
> and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure
>
> ode
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall  wrote:
>
>> I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production.  But I
>> am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a hanna
>> pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a 1.1
>> correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.
>>
>> He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we have
>> been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
>> the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
>> that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is messing it
>> up.
>>
>> But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
>> colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity meter.  I
>> don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
>> colorimeter?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marshall
>>
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Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Ode Coyote]

I once got meter calibration fluid from Hanna that was off by 50%...they
refused to replace it or refund my money.
It took 'pulling teeth' to get them to even admit it was defective...as
compared to another sample from them using the same meter.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 10:26 AM Marshall  wrote:

> There is no titration.  This is the instrument:
> https://www.hannainst.com/hi96737-silver-portable-photometer.html
>
> Marshall
>
> On 7/8/2020 8:36 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
>  Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low concentrations
> and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure
>
> ode
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall  wrote:
>
>> I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production.  But I
>> am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a hanna
>> pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a 1.1
>> correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.
>>
>> He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we have
>> been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
>> the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
>> that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is messing it
>> up.
>>
>> But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
>> colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity meter.  I
>> don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
>> colorimeter?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Measuring PPM

[Ode Coyote]

Titration is not NEARLY accurate enough to measure 15 PPM
 Even an AA Spectrophotometer has great difficulty at low concentrations
and 3 runs of the same sample averaged is the procedure

ode

On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 7:54 PM Marshall  wrote:

> I am helping my son in law with his colloidal silver production.  But I
> am running into something I don't understand.  He has been using a hanna
> pure water meter to measure the ionic ppm.  He has been applying a 1.1
> correction factor, that is brewing for a 14 uS, to get 15 ppm.
>
> He just ordered and received a hanna silver ion colorimeter and we have
> been testing with it.  When we dissolve the CS silver in nitric acid,
> the readings are way off, near zero.  I am going to contact Hanna on
> that, I am assuming that either the nitrate ion, or the pH is messing it
> up.
>
> But testing some week old CS, I am getting about 6 ppm on the
> colorimeter, but 12 uS (or about 13 ppm) on the conductivity meter.  I
> don't know which one is wrong.  Anyone have experience with the
> colorimeter?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
>
>
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