Re: CSBeck machines
In a message dated 8/7/00 6:54:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tw...@yahoo.com writes: I am definitely feeling better, more energy, after just a week of following the directions. Also, I have twice (the last two days) experienced coming home from a long day, very tired, hooking up the Blood purifier, and feeling noticeably better ten minutes later. Terry Wayne Good news. Hope you keep improving. I forget...what are you using this for? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSdistilled water-cs-have to be made with?
This may be a dumb question but does colloidal silver have to be made with distilled water or can you use spring water? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHYPERBARIC CHAMBER
In a message dated 8/3/00 3:53:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jlay...@ainet.com writes: Subj: CSHYPERBARIC CHAMBER Date: 8/3/00 3:53:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: jlay...@ainet.com (Jeff Laymon) Reply-to: jlay...@ainet.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Bob Squires wrote: colorparam7F00,,/param Dear friends; I am studying the creation of hyperbaric chambers that can be low cost for home use machines . These may produce great benefits . Does any one have any ideas about them . /color- - - - - - Thursday afternoon, Modesto California (real hot..power companies sweating bullets) Keep us (and me) informed. Sounds like a great idea. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLymesilverCheck out http://www.escape.ca/~revive/burgd.txt
A HREF=http://www.escape.ca/~revive/burgd.txt;Click here: http://www.escape.ca/~revive/burgd.txt/A -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLou Gehrig's disease?
In a message dated 7/22/00 9:27:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spiro...@tampabay.rr.com writes: But a treatment protocol such as the 4-part plan proposed by Robert Beck PhD would be my personal choice for dealing with a complex of diseases like Lyme or Lou Gehrig's disease. That protocol includes CS, blood electrification, magnetic pulsing and drinking ozonized water. Spiroflex Hi. Forgive my bad memory if you have already posted this but have you had personal experience using this protocol and success? Thanks a lot. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLou Gehrig's disease?
In a message dated 7/22/00 9:27:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spiro...@tampabay.rr.com writes: I found an abstract of Mattman's report on the Web at PubMed Web at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?uid=9861561form=6db=m; Dopt=b If you cannot access this, let me know and I'll post it. Hi. I can't access this site but would like to see it if you can post it. Thanks, christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNicole Buring in nose OT
Hi Nicole, Was going through some old emails. I have heard the burning in the nose is a symptom of babesia. I hear artemesia (worm wood) helps. At first may increse the burning but then decreases it. I have been taking it in case I have babesia as peripheral blood smear said suggestive of babesia but I think It has been increasing my estrogen...am having premenstrual cramping again and toe pain as I did pre-antibiotics for Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus which we think estrogen makes worse. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
In a message dated 7/20/00 4:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, writety...@aol.com writes: Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/20/00 4:48:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: writety...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com The battlefields in the Gulf War are now covered with literally TONS AND TONS of radioactive bullets that were used. Any possible correlation to health problems vets have had? Frank Yes -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
HI There, I was wondering what the dose is you are taking of MSM. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 7/18/00 8:52:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, quiksa...@home.com writes: Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/18/00 8:52:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: quiksa...@home.com (Quiksassy) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently started taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more energy. I am on a medication wellbutrin which helps with the pain and has let me get some rest. I have read that it is the lack of being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of problems associated with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading doctors in the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
In a message dated 7/19/00 9:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/19/00 9:17:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Check http://dorway.com/ for information on aspertame poisoning. I know that I saw a comparison of the known symptoms of aspertame poisoning and Gulf War syndrome, and the list was identical from end to end. Fact is that Coke sent loads of diet drinks over there, and they sat in the sun for weeks making methyl alcohol, before being drunk by the thousands. It was completely predictable, and since the symptoms completely match, almost for certain that is the cause. I will try to find that reference. Marshall Katie Jay wrote: Hi Marshall, I was told my mycoplasma infection was the cause of my Gulf War Syndrome. Do you have any further information about aspertame being the culprit? Thanks,Katie I think the ONLY thing that the government is telling the truth about regarding GWS is that there is no single cause. The aspartame I am sure can cause problems but it does not explain transmission to family members and pets. See www.gulfwarvets.com. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSViolet Ray
In a message dated 7/11/00 12:22:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSViolet Ray Date: 7/11/00 12:22:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Actually what I have been hearing is that they are like a minature Rife machine. Cayce recommend their use in many of his readings. I have a friend that said that he was able to kill toothache in a matter of seconds with one. I am thinking they might induce a magnetic field and current in tissue, and thus act like a Rife machine, zapper, magnetic pulsar, or TENs unit, or a combination of these. If I get any more information I will let you know. Marshall Keep us posted. Sounds interesting. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBob Beck machines
In a message dated 7/13/00 8:40:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dotsie...@aol.com writes: Subj: Re: CSBob Beck machines Date: 7/13/00 8:40:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: dotsie...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com In a message dated 7/13/00 2:43:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bradki...@webcombo.net writes: You have to use bloodelectrification in one word for it to work. it seems like they are trying to hide it. Hi Brad, When I started the bloodelectrification list last year, I was having a difficult time finding information/testimonials from people who actually used the Beck protocol and was hoping that someone else would start a list - no such luck. At the time, I didn't know what to name it but I am always open to suggestions. I agree, it's a little confusing. Dotsie List Moderator - bloodelectrificat...@egroups.com How do you join the list? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Fibromyalgia may be actually Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus (www.immed.org, www.gulfwarvets.com) or Lyme so I would give the cs a try. If she wants blood work done first to find out what is causing the fibromyalgia she should have her blood drawn prior to testing b/c for example with the M. fermentans incognitus being on antibiotics can cause a false negative. Christy In a message dated 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, you...@konnections.com writes: Subj: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: 7/13/00 9:01:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: you...@konnections.com (Steve Young) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com (Silver List) Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, --Steve -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOTaerobic/anaerobic bacteria etc. and oxygen therpaies etc.OT
Hi there, I am wondering about oxygen therapies for aerobic and anaerobic bacteria as well as those somewhere in between. If what I have read is accurate (and it may or may not be) the lyme bacteria borrelia bugrdoferi is microaerophilic which I think means it likes small amounts of oxygen (but I think not large amounts). When I called labs etc. what I was told is that they think the Babesia which is a parasite and lives in the Red Blood Cells is aerobic. The red blood cells is also where the borrelia burgdoferi lives and the red blood cells is where the oxygen is. Now, I think it is assumed that aerobic bacteria and also partial anaerobes should be killed or at least knocked down by oxygen therapies but I am wanting to know what about the bacteria like lyme that are supposedly microaerophilic and live in the red blood cells and also aerobic organisms. I wonder can oxygen therapies actually make any aerobic organism worse in int he worst case scenario would they just not do anything either way? Thanks a lot, Christy In a message dated 7/10/00 10:09:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rogalt...@aol.com writes: mama2b...@aol.com wrote: Seratia I understand CS destroys the protein sheath surrounding anaerobic (harmful) bacteria and kills them but does not harm aerobic (friendly) bacteria. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Our tests have shown that CS kills both anaerobic as well as aerobic bacteria. Actually this is good. Many bacteria can switch from anaerobic to aerobic and back again instantly. Also many aerobic bacteria can become pathogenic when misplaced. For instance the bacteria essential in the gut can cause lots of problems if they colonize the vagina. Although anaerobic = bad and aerobic = good has some basis in fact, it is not hard and fast. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLymemycoplasmaOT
Hi Katiie, I missed your original post so I don't have your email address here but I was positive for lyme as well as Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus strain). Do you know what strain or species of mycoplasma you have? Let's keep in touch. Christy tIn a message dated 7/10/00 10:21:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kj...@erols.com writes: Katie Jay wrote: Hi all, I am going to start CS in a few days. I have Lyme and mycoplasma. How much CS should I take for active infections such as these? What quantity of what ppm? Does a person's weight factor in? A few swallows a day, as some recommend, is not enough specificity for me :o) Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[Fwd: continued]
In a message dated 7/10/00 10:30:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rj...@dialnet.net writes: so important to them . Do you realize that one million children a year die of Malaria alone in Africa. Malaria is a tiny parasite that goes into your blood stream when stung. Both the CS and zapper destroy this tiny mite Hi Bob, I have seen articles about the South African president. He is saying he is not sure HIV causes AIDS and also that all the illness he sees in his country cannot be due to just one virus. Well, I guess one of the organisms causing so much illness is the malaria organism. I wonder what else besides or in addition to HIV he thinks may be contributing to AIDS. Good luck with your work. What dose of CS does it take to kill the malaria and what PPM and how long doe sit take. God Bless, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS overdose?
Where did you get these quotes from? Thanks, Christy n a message dated 7/10/00 11:37:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, tw...@yahoo.com writes: Thanks, Hope krh...@worldnet.att.net Reply: Dr. John Barltrop of the University of Toronto conducted toxicity tests on rats, giving them enormous amounts of EGCS. He found there were absolutely no toxic effects. The amount he gave the rats (1 cc of a solution of 300,000 ppm of EGCS) was equivalent to 7,500 times the amount other scientists found was the proper dose (10-40 ppm). The World Health Organization has stated, It is unnecessary to recommend any health-based guidelines for silver as it is not hazardous to human health. According to the U. S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Poison Control Center, EGCS is considered harmless. Dr. Samuel Etris, a senior consultant at the Silver Institute, says there has never been any reports of allergenic, toxic or cancerous reactions to pure Colloidal Silver. The U.S. Government's Center for Diseases Control confirmed that fact in 1995. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Allergies
Do you know how many grams of MSM you are taking a day? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 7/7/00 9:43:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, epmoon5...@aol.com writes: Subj: Re: CSOT: Allergies Date: 7/7/00 9:43:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: epmoon5...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com HI. I have been able to stop taking Claritin prescription drug for about 3 months now. I have had severe allergy to sunshine, makes a itchie rash. Bug bites that last and itch for a week. Have not been brave enough to try citrus fruit, it puts me to bed with sneezing and a water spout for a nose. I have been on MSM for 3 months. Am now taking about 3heaping teaspoons a day hoping it will stop herniated disk pain in upper back. Its certinaly worth a try. Very inexpenseive, though has a bitter taste. Betty Ft. Lauderdale -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThanks for the Lyme info
In a message dated 7/7/00 1:57:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mayj...@javanet.com writes: I have been reading the government and health sites on the net. don't trust the government info. Focus on other non-governement info. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
In a message dated 7/7/00 5:53:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Hi Marsha, Did you have TMJ? Thanks, Christy Dear Rob, Three days. I first noticed I could shut my jaw for the first time in months. The joints also eased up, and by a week, my mind was clearing and I could speak coherently! What a blessing CS has been! Marsha PS, Is it hot and muggy in Memphis? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Effective Systematically
In a message dated 7/5/00 2:03:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, krh...@worldnet.att.net writes: Subj: CS Effective Systematically Date: 7/5/00 2:03:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: krh...@worldnet.att.net Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks to Roger for clarifying his statement about internal effectiveness. Thanks also to Marsha and James for posting their opinions that cs is effective when taken in this manner. I guess only time will tell as to how well it will work with my severe, long-term Lyme. I am taking about a quart to a quart and a half of homemade silver made with one of the CSPro Phasic systems.Hope Hi Hope, Are you still herxing or has that started to stabilize? Good luck, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPoor Results when taken Systemically?
Hi Hope and all, Who is Dr. Altman? Christy krh...@worldnet.att.net writes: Subj: CSPoor Results when taken Systemically? Date: 7/4/00 4:35:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: krh...@worldnet.att.net Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com On the other hand, I have noticed rather poor results with colloidal silver when it is used systemically. As a matter of fact, personal experience and that of others as well, has shown that CS does NOT compare well to antibiotics when used in this manner. As a relatively new member to this group, I was quite distressed by the above post by Dr. Altman. If the above is true, then why is it being touted by this list and cs manufacturers as being equivalent to antibiotics? I have long-term Lyme and in perusing the archives of this list and in speaking with several members here, I was fairly confident that I could use cs with good results. If that is not the case, then I obviously seriously need to rethink what I am currently doing. All feedback is appreciated. Since I get this list in digest form, posts cc'd to me as well as posted to the list, would be helpful. Thank you. Hope krh...@worldnet.att.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlyme disease
Hi Marsha, Curious where you read this. I had a number of tick bites but I try to stay away from bugs in general now b/c you just never know. Christy a message dated 7/1/00 7:18:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Dear Christy, and all, (Your spelling is right, but the species name has a small b!) I read recently that anything blood-sucking can now carry Bb. This includes mosquitoes and biting flies. Mine was definitely a deer tick, as I pulled the damn thing off my leg! Got the bullseye rash and the whole bit...sigh... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlyme disease
In a message dated 6/29/00 3:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mo...@inow.com writes: Subj: CSlyme disease Date: 6/29/00 3:37:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: mo...@inow.com (Mary) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com What causes lyme disease? Is it caused by a vax? I know the story about the ticks but I'm just wondering if there is another story we don't hear about. I think with many things we only hear part of the story. It certainly would not suprise me to find out that there may be additional modes of transmission besides tick. Lyme is caused by a bacteria called Borrelia Burgdorferi...spelling may be off. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT oxygen therpaies
---BeginMessage--- Hi all, I am wondering if anyone can tell me if oxygen therapies should help knock down or eradicate the lyme bacteria borrelia burgdorferi, and/or Babesia, and/or ehrlichia? Thanks a lot, Christy ---End Message---
Re: CSOT whoa - got to jump in here - Christy
IThanks. Will avoid all the time. Only have a diet coke about once a month like if at the movies but won't anymore. Christy n a message dated 6/22/00 4:37:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, li...@flash.net writes: Christy, List, et al: YOUR shakiness is being caused by the aspartame in diet coke AND it also actually makes you hungrier and makes your hypoglycemia worse and of course eventually brain tumors . . yep (that is the end result of formalydehyde). Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCMO-bloodsugar-lowOT
In a message dated 6/21/00 5:39:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, galing...@chariot.net.au writes: Subj: Re: CSCMO-bloodsugar-lowOT Date: 6/21/00 5:39:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: galing...@chariot.net.au (Judith Thamm) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com As you are a diabetic are you using an artificial sweetener in anything? One of the side effects of some artificial sweeteners is that they send blood sugar out of kilter and cause the weak/shaky feelings you have described. [Aspartame, NutraSweet, Equal and all the other names it goes under.] Judith. Hi. I am not diabetic. I have low blood sugar. I avoid that stuff about 95% of the time. Have noticed getting shaky after diet coke which I very rarely have but I thought it was the caffeine...maybe not...or both. What about saccharin...worse or better than nutrasweet and/or sugar? Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCMODosageOT
In a message dated 6/21/00 1:58:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pjgr...@northnet.org writes: Subj: Re: CSCMODosageOT Date: 6/21/00 1:58:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: pjgr...@northnet.org (Pamela Grant) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com The below is interesting as I too had the mycoplasma type of pneumoniaApril'99) and have recently been quite shaky also. Is shakiness and that particular illness have a correlation---anyone know? Pam Hi Pam, Check out www.immed.org. I had a severe case of Mycoplasma pneumonia diagnosed through chest x-rays, fact that I was coughing up blood, etc. and blood work was done but I am sure they did not do a PCR to determine what strain of mycoplasma. Most labs do not. I later was positive on PCR and Gene Tracking when tested for M. fermentnas incognitus which can cuse many chronic and serious symptoms. When monkeys were injected with it they died in 7 to 9 months according to Dr. Lo who has the patent on it. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
In a message dated 6/21/00 3:31:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, pjgr...@northnet.org writes: Subj: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: 6/21/00 3:31:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: pjgr...@northnet.org (Pamela Grant) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com What is the magnetic pulser? PG see www.sota-inc.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCMO-bloodsugar-lowOT
Hi all, I am wondering if CMO can cause problems for people with low blood sugar if anyone knows. I have been taking it (of course I am doing a lot of other things including cs etc. but I would not think cs could cause problems with that) and I am noticing that my symptoms of low blood sugar (shakiness) are worse even though I am making special efforts to eat well and not wait too long in between eating but it seems I am having to eat more and more often than normal lately to avoid becoming shaky. I do have low blood sugar but normally am ok if I make sure I eat often enough and make sure I get enough protein as well. I really don't know what to think b/c this weak/shaky feeling can also go along with herxing or die off from various things and that could be part of it but it does seem my blood sugar problems are worse than normal. For example, yesterday I ate good meals but was still weak/shaky all day until I finally ate a who;e bunch of different stuff..one after the other late in the evening/night...then felt not shaky finally. I took my CMO before bed and woke up shaky a few hours later when i I got up to go to the bathroom and when I woke up a number of hours after that I was quite shaky and still am. I do know in my Prescription For Nutritional Healing Book that it says people with diabetes shouldn't take fish oil b/c of the high fat content but I have never had a problem with taking fish oil which I am still taking as well as flax oil. Plus, I do not have diabetes...just low blood sugar and a chiropractor thought hyperinsulinemia or something like that what ever that means. He just said make sure to get lots of protein. I have been having night sweats which does seem to be for me a die off/herx symptom with various things including for example, when starting each new antibiotic for Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus. When I started Biaxin in addition to the night sweats I felt shaky weak for a number of weeks and then it died off and I also was eating more and the first couple nights woke up so shaky I had to scarf down a bunch of food. But, still this doesn't seem good to me. I also recently have been making sure to take digestive enzymes with the CMO (as I have heard recommended) to make sure it is absorbed and have been noticing more night sweats. Supposedly studies have shown the CMO has prevented arthritis in rats injected with Mycobacterium butyricum (also known as Freund's adjuvant) while the other rats injected with the organism but that did not get any CMO experienced major symtpoms of arthritic disease.(Journal Of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Vol. 83 (3) March 1994 296-299)...this came from a booklet I got a the health food store..have not seen actual study from journal. I am wondering if maybe I should decrease my dose of CMO. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCMODosageOT
Hi all, Wondering if anyone can help me with CMO dosage. A booklet I have from the health food store says typical amounts range from 0.05 to 0.75 grams of CMO per 140 to 200 grams of body weight. Well, I weigh about 105 now if my scale is accurate just checked. (I'm a shrimpy...smile...about 5 feet 1/2inches.) I tried figuring out the math but my numbers don't seem to be making any sense at all. Someone told me there are 453.6 grams in a pound. Anyone know if that is correct? I have been taking 2 500mg capsules (1000mg) 3 times a day. It says on the label a 1000mg dose provides 200mg Cetyl Myristoleate and other mixed fatty esters.) Anyone have any input on what the right dose for me is? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFwd: CMO-bloodsugar-lowOT
CMO is a fatty acid ester. It isa lipid-based compound composed of Omega-3 fatty acids. (Omega 3 fatty acids are found is some cold water fish. The booklet I got from the health food store says, the fact that it is found in sperm whale oil suggests that it may have significant therapeutic effects for joint inflammations. The booklet also says Swiss albino mice naturally have CMO and do not get arthritis when injected with Freund's adjuvant which is Mycobacterium butyricum. This booklet is by Woodland Health Series and is called CMO Cetyl Myristoleate A Natural Treatment For Arthritis and Other Joint-Related Diseases by Rita Elkins, M.H. Christy ---BeginMessage--- Hi all, I am wondering if CMO can cause problems for people with low blood sugar if anyone knows. I have been taking it (of course I am doing a lot of other things including cs etc. but I would not think cs could cause problems with that) and I am noticing that my symptoms of low blood sugar (shakiness) are worse even though I am making special efforts to eat well and not wait too long in between eating but it seems I am having to eat more and more often than normal lately to avoid becoming shaky. I do have low blood sugar but normally am ok if I make sure I eat often enough and make sure I get enough protein as well. I really don't know what to think b/c this weak/shaky feeling can also go along with herxing or die off from various things and that could be part of it but it does seem my blood sugar problems are worse than normal. For example, yesterday I ate good meals but was still weak/shaky all day until I finally ate a who;e bunch of different stuff..one after the other late in the evening/night...then felt not shaky finally. I took my CMO before bed and woke up shaky a few hours later when i I got up to go to the bathroom and when I woke up a number of hours after that I was quite shaky and still am. I do know in my Prescription For Nutritional Healing Book that it says people with diabetes shouldn't take fish oil b/c of the high fat content but I have never had a problem with taking fish oil which I am still taking as well as flax oil. Plus, I do not have diabetes...just low blood sugar and a chiropractor thought hyperinsulinemia or something like that what ever that means. He just said make sure to get lots of protein. I have been having night sweats which does seem to be for me a die off/herx symptom with various things including for example, when starting each new antibiotic for Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus. When I started Biaxin in addition to the night sweats I felt shaky weak for a number of weeks and then it died off and I also was eating more and the first couple nights woke up so shaky I had to scarf down a bunch of food. But, still this doesn't seem good to me. I also recently have been making sure to take digestive enzymes with the CMO (as I have heard recommended) to make sure it is absorbed and have been noticing more night sweats. Supposedly studies have shown the CMO has prevented arthritis in rats injected with Mycobacterium butyricum (also known as Freund's adjuvant) while the other rats injected with the organism but that did not get any CMO experienced major symtpoms of arthritic disease.(Journal Of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Vol. 83 (3) March 1994 296-299)...this came from a booklet I got a the health food store..have not seen actual study from journal. I am wondering if maybe I should decrease my dose of CMO. Christy ---End Message---
cselectroporation/lyme,M.incognitus
Now, would the electroporation be good when using CS for lyme and/or for Mycoplasma fermentans inocgnitus which the M. incognitus burrows deep into the cells and I beleive the lyme does also to help the CS get into the cells better??? Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScyst lyme/babesia,erlichiosis
So, have you tried those drugs again or just sticking with CS? Also, know much about babsesia and erlichiosis? Do you know if Cs should work for those also? Thanks, Christy a message dated 6/20/00 2:51:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, myf...@mwt.net writes: Subj: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: 6/20/00 2:51:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: myf...@mwt.net (Scharbach) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com There has been some study done on using Flagyl for this reason. It kills the cyst form, but has no effect on the spirochetal stage. It (Flagyl) must be used in combo with Zithromax or tetracyclin,or doxycyclin. Supposedly three months of this combo will take care of the LYme. I tried it. I was well into my 6th week when my heart went nuts. Ended me in ICU. Found out later, this is an extreme herx reaction and will eventually pass, as the Lyme dies off. Yipes!! Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCMODosageOT
I've been taking CMO about 3 weeks. I have been doing lots of things but adding the CMO is the most recent. Ever since I got a bad case of mycoplasma pneumonia over 9 years ago I get shaky if I have not eaten for a while but it has been worse lately...for about 2 weeks I'd say. Christy In a message dated 6/20/00 3:29:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, li...@flash.net writes: Re: CSCMODosageOT Date: 6/20/00 3:29:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: li...@flash.net (d.linen) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Christy, How long have you been taking the CMO? Were you shaky before you ever took any CMO? It sounds like you are taking a variety of different things. So you only got shake when you introduced the CMO into your regimin? Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and Lyme
Hi Marshall, I was wondering if your sister stopped all herbs, vitamins and other supplements while using the Sota units due to electroporation issues or if she kept taking supplements? Some say it is OK to take supplements after using the units I think but not to take them before. Have you heard of the units by Michael Forrester? A woman on another list says his units have the option of using 100hz which does not cause electroporation. Do you know anything about that? Thanks, Christy Thanks, Christyn a message dated 6/19/00 8:10:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSCS and Lyme Date: 6/19/00 8:10:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I belive that you will find that CS alone will not be able to get to all the Lyme bacteria, they are really good at hiding in the brain, lymph system and cartlidge after you have had it long term. I would suggest using the full 4 step protocol of Bob Beck's for a rapid and complete recovery. His protocol uses CS, ozonated water, blood electrification (I use Clark's zapper though), and magnetic zapping. CS alone helped my sister get to about 80% from her Lyme, but it took all four for a complete cure. See http://rarebooks.net/beck.html and http://www.sota-inc.com Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCMO OT
Hi. I was wondering if CMO is ever taken long term or if it is only taken for about 30 days to 6 weeks? Also, does anyone know if it is dangerous to take long term? I am wondering what the mechanism of action is. I have heard and read different theories/possiblilities. These induce that the CMO took away arthritis that had been induced in rats in an experiment by injecting them with a mycobacterium? Are others aware of this? Could the CMO have antibiotic properties? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMarsha ppm lyme,mycoplasma fermentnas incognitus
Hi Marsha (and all), I have been meaning to email you...don't have your address handy though. But, I think you said you use 18ppm for the lyme? Do you have an instrument that measures the ppm? Where does one find those? Does you cs look kind of gold? If you want an 18 ppm as opposed to say 5 ppm do you need to have the cs cooking for a few more minutes? I think I have been making about 5ppm and it looks clear but when I let it cook about an extra 5 minutes (in addition to the normal 15 I do which I think makes about 5ppm) it then has a definite goldish cast to it...at that point do you think it is closer to 18 ppm? I have been thinking maybe I should do 5ppm once a day and then take 18 ppm another time during the day to get both in case one is better etc. I heard 5ppm is good for the Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus which I was positive for. But, I am also positive for lyme. Well, I feel like I am forgetting something but obviously can't remember what. Oh...I know...is it OK to make and store or best to make and use right away? Do you make just enough to use or do you end up having to throw some away? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS and Lyme
Hi again, Thanks for your reply. Can you or anyone else tell me what is supposed to be so bad about garlic? Everything I have read about it is very good. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 6/19/00 5:14:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: She used the Sota ozonator and pulsar, but used my CS and Hulda Clark's zapper. She only avoided garlic as far as I know. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
Hi Marsha and all, A couple more questions...smile. I think you said in the past you are on both Lyme-aid and also sci.med (or something like that...another lyme list). I have noticed that on the Lyme-aid list their is a lyme doctor named Lynn who posts a lot. Is she also on the sci.med list? Also, can you tell me if you get as many posts on the sci.med list and also if they discuss many alternative treamtnets for lyme on that list or not and if the list is pretty treatment focused? Also, wondering if you can tell me what the cyst form of lyme means? Thanks a lot. I appreciate all your help and input as well as everyone's on this list. Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
Hi Jeannie, Keep in touch with me. Did you know evening primrose can increase estrogen? Some women may not want to do that.I Also, did you say you were on Lyme-AID? An MD seems to think some MS cases may be Lyme. Also, I am also rifing. I can tell you more later if you want. I have had MS symptoms and their is even a family history of it but they seem to be getting better. I a recently started doing freqs on the rife machine for lyme in addition to the other ones i was doing. Christy a message dated 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jean...@karlster.com writes: Subj: RE: CSNew to List Date: 6/5/00 9:37:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: jean...@karlster.com (Jeannie) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hi Christy... I was using only 10ppm two times per day. It took about 2 months for me to start really feeling its affects. Although I was also taking a number of other supplements, some of which I have returned to, such as pantothenic acid (up to 1500 mg/day), CoQ10, primrose oil, calcium/magnesium supplement, garlic tablets, B-complex, flax seed, and fish oils. A nurse practitioner who knows about these problems also believes that it's probably CNS Lyme. The only thing is that when this 'episode' started similar symptoms began, but showed themselves in slightly different ways. Because of my long term experience with this, it completely threw me. I will have to wait and see. But I certainly won't sit back and wait. Thanks for the message. Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to List
Hi Jeannie, I would assume its probably CNS Lyme. That's great the success you had with CS in the past. I would go back to that and stay on it. Can I ask what ppm you used and what dose? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 6/5/00 4:30:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ar...@nf.sympatico.ca writes: Hi to all... I just subscribed to this list because I found colloidal silver (again). A few years ago I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease, after spending 3 years being misdiagnosed and almost crippled. After finally receiving antibiotic therapy and my body not tolerating such after a couple of years, I turned to alternative medicine. Several homeopaths and nutritionists had told me about colloidal silver, so I began to do my own investigation on the limited literature available at the time. I found that it really helped me alot and after about a year, I fell off the wagon (so to speak) because I was feeling pretty good. About 8 months ago, I started slipping again into a stupor, double vision, trouble with speech and gait and once again started on the travails to find out what was wrong. It again is a question mark between MS and CNS Lyme Disease.. I guess my question right now is, if it is MS, will taking the Colloidal Silver hurt me in any way. Does anyone know anything about this? Thank you and good health to all of you, Jeannie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlyme-aid list
Hi Mary, Please let us know which list you think is better in terms of infotreatment info I also just signed up on Lyme-Aid. I would sign up on both but I can barley handle all the lists I am on now. If you have a chance and its not too much trouble could you ask on the sci.med one if they know of any lyme literate docs in St. Louis, MO or nearby? Recently, I got postiive lyme tests. thanks, Christy n a message dated 6/4/00 2:26:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, helenw8...@aol.com writes: Subj: CSlyme-aid list Date: 6/4/00 2:26:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: helenw8...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Marsha, I belong to the lyme-aid list that has over 200 members and about 20 messages a day lyme-...@egroups they post about CS also. Just signed up for sci.med.diseases.lyme. Thanks, Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT lymeliteratedocSt.Louis?Disabilityetc.
Hi to the lyme people. I am forwarding this email to fill you in on my situation.Some forms of mycoplamsa do not cause serious problems but Mycoplasma fermentans (incognitus strain) is the strain that Dr. Lo of the Armed Forces has the United States patent on which states when it was injected into monkeys they died in 7 to 9 months. It is being found in 1/2 of the sick Gulf War vets and a smaller percentage I believe of CFS and Fibro people. It can cause many of the same symptoms as lyme. That's why I thought the odds were against me having both. It is air borne according to Dr. Garth Nicolson (www.immed.org) and also spread through saliva, sex, and I believe sweat. Is the lyme contagious also and if so how is it transmitted? Also, is headaches on the top of the head espeically in warm environments known to be a symptom of lyme? Also, I am doing my own alternative therapy but I guess it may be good for me to have a doc who is lyme literate if there are any in my area. Do you know of any in St. Louis, MO or nearby? Also, is it hard for lyme people to get disability? Thanks, Christy ---BeginMessage--- ---BeginMessage--- Hi guys! Yes, I do think the dna helper is on to something and I do appreciate all the work the DNA helper is doing. I was going over an email post to the list from the helper from about March with some numbers for Borrelia Burgdorfi (it's down stairs) the other day and noticed that a bunch of the numbers (or very close numbers) are also listed on the Dan Tracy/Jim Bare list I printed off of Turf's site and/or on a list that Don Tunney's assistant sent me of freqs used for Lyme that they found some of their CFS volunteers where having hits with. Anyway, I found that quite interesting...smile!!! Also, I have been having hits with those numbers from the email that I have done...mostly strong tostrong underlined. A couple weeks ago I took a week (or 6 days) off of all supplements and rifing (I felt worse during that time...starting a few days after stopping the stuff). Anyway, I then had my blood shipped to Dr. Lidda Mattmann (spelling??) in Michigan and a lab in Floridia...Bowen Research and Training Institute and I got all my results in now. They both tested for Borrelia Borgdorfi and said I was positive. Mattman does a blood culture from your blood and sends pictures of the spirochetes. The other lab did rapid fluorescent antibody technique for Borrelia. Bowen also said peripheral blood smear suggests: Human Granulocytic Erhlichia (HGE) and Babesia...confirmation of indicated. Well, I am sick of paying for and getting blood drawn and sent to labs etc. so i will just assume I may have those so if you have any freqs for those let me know. I really don't know a whole lot about these labs or tests but a few weeks or so ago I started wondering if I could have lyme in addition to the Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus. In the past I have talked to like Dan tracy for instance and he went through like a list of 30 symptoms with me asking me if I had them and I kept saying yes, yes, yes, etc. and he kept saying you have Lyme and I kept saying but you don't understand I have Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus and it can cause about all the same symtpoms and the whole illness started with a bad case of mycoplasma pneumonia so it makes sense that since I developed chronic symptoms the whole thing was caused by the Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus which can cause systemic and chronic illness. He just kept saying I had Lyme but it never occured to me I could be unlucky enough to have both. But, one thing I do remember is ever since like around maybe 5th or 6th grade or so I would get real bad headaches if out in the sun and heat for hours. And, this lady said she thought that could be from the lyme. Anyway I prayed to God to send me a sign or help me know if I had lyme. Well, the next day or so I had a dream in which I was at like a dance and I was wearing a bright lyme green real fancy dress and so was another lady in the dream. Then when I woke up I thought boy was that weird nobody wears that color...that lyme green, anymore...how weird...nobody has worn anything like that for years since like the 80's. But, at the time that's all I thought about it...didn't get the lyme as in borrelia yet at that point. Then that night my dad was watching Lawrence Welk and I was watching it...ugghh!!...LOL!!! while eating dinner and out comes this woman in a real fancy dress that was bright lyme green. Then comes out another woman in a another fancy lyme green dresssame color but different style (as in my dream) and then I think the third lady came out like that also but again different style...same color. And, I thought boy that's weird and mentioned my dream to my dad. And, ht Lawrence Welk show looked like it was made in like the 80's (early I guess) by the hair styles/feathered hair, etc. and of course the
CSPPM, Lyme
Hi all. 2 questions. One very basic...what does parts per million actually mean? And, for example, is 18 ppm smaller or larger particles of silver than 5 for example? Also, what do you think of 5 ppm for lyme? Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS, Lyme List versus Marsha
Hi Marsha, What lyme list(s) are you on? which do you find to be the most helpful in terms of info. and treatment info.? I forget, what ppm did you use...was it 10ppm? Do you still use it? Also, you or anyone know any lyme literate docs in the St. Louis, MO area? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 6/3/00 9:12:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: I really think CS can do the trick if done properly. Marsha (by the way, there`s no need to shout...) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBursitisCMO
In a message dated 5/30/00 8:25:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Hi Marshall, Thanks for the info. on the previous posting about your sister, etc. Just wondering do you know anyone who has used CMO for Lyme or other bacterial things or rheumatoid arthritis and what results they had? Is it true you only need to take it for 30 days? Thanks, Christy mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSBursitis Date: 5/30/00 8:25:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Try CMO. Marshall frineha...@aol.com wrote: Beginning about 3 weeks ago I experience soreness and at times excruciating pain, depending on extent of arm movement, in my left shoulder. Initially I thought I was having a bout with arthritis (I'm 62), but after doing some research I have concluded that I have bursitis. I take 4-6oz. CS each day. Anyone have suggestions for treatment? Thanks, Frank in South Texas -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDr Clark on CS
Is this Dr. Hulda Clark? I can't get the web site. thanks, Christy n a message dated 5/31/00 2:33:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, apothec...@home.com writes: Subj: Re: CSDr Clark on CS Date: 5/31/00 2:33:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: apothec...@home.com (James Allison) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com http://www.drclark.ch/bulletin/cs.htm The following are a couple of quotes from the above site, and then a question: What exactly is Colloidal Silver (CS)? Simply put, colloids are extremely minute-sized silver particles suspended in water, with a positive electrical charge. The smaller the silver particles, the more effective it has proven to be. The best Colloidal Silver is produced at the molecular level. A small DC current is passed through an electrolyte with silver electrodes. Minute, molecular sized particles are drawn off the positive electrode, having a positive electrical charge. This electrical charge is of primary importance to healing and antibacterial qualities. The charge slowly dissipates, and therefore the freshness of the colloid is important. When current is applied to silver in solution the particles that break off will always be the same size: 1.26 angstroms (.000126 microns). Now, once again, can somebody please tell me how AC units make a better solution than LVDC units? Yours in health, James Allison -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBeck's tools/cs dosing times per day.away from food??etc.
Hi Marshal, How long was your sister sick before she started the cs and then the 4 part protocol? Was she using the Sota device to make the CS. Do you know what ppm she was using and waht dose of CS? Also, is it best to take CS twice a dfay or once or even 3 times? Should it be taken on an empty stomach or a full one or does it matter? Also, will supplements or herbs interfer with it..should thety be spaced apart? Thanks, Christy n a message dated 5/26/00 8:09:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSBob Beck's super tools Date: 5/26/00 8:09:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Alvin Rose wrote: I notice a number of people on the Silver List have contacted lyme disease..I am curious as to if anyone has tried the Beck devices to cure this Problem..I use them often and have had great success with them Both the blood electrifier and magnetic pulser combined with Colloidal Silver should cure most problems..I don't have lyme disease but I feel that these devices should do the job if the 4 step protocol is used as required. A.Rose Yes. As I have reported to this list several times, my sister was able to improve tremendously on CS, but could not complete get rid of it. She was unable to get it out of her joints and lymph system. The use of all 4 of the Beck protocols and she was free of all symptoms in a month and her lymph nodes went down for the first time in years. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMSM herx/detox
MSM can cause those symptoms when you start taking it. It detoxes you...gets toxins out and you feel those symptoms as it does that. Also, it is sulfu and when I looke dthat up in my Perscription for Nutritional Healing it says sulfur is antibacterial and antiviral so you also may be experiencing herxing/die off of viruses and/or bacteria. You can reduce the dose for a while and this should decrease. Keep drinking lots of water. I would take this as a good sign that its working. Christy n a message dated 5/25/00 5:07:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mzo...@aol.com writes: Subj: CSMSM Date: 5/25/00 5:07:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mzo...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hello everyone, I just looked in the archives trying to locate something about the possible detrimental effects of MSM. I found a few tidbits there, but not what I was looking for, so I'll pose some questions here. Does anyone have an idea as why when upon taking MSM for the first time last night, it made me sick. I think I am allergic to it. Why would one be allergic to a natural substance from the earth? I know it was the MSM that made me sick, for within an hour or so of taking it, I began getting a feverish achy feeling all over. I went to bed early, tossed and turned all night (my husband said I was even moaning when I was asleep). I felt as if I had the flu. This morning I am feeling better after LOTS of water to flush it out of my system. Many years ago, enough so that I had totally forgotten (until last night) I had some sulfur prescribed for something or other. I had a reaction to it then too...feverish flu like symtoms. Any thoughts? Thanks. Love, Kathy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMSM
What brand is the brand that makes your wife sick? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 5/25/00 7:12:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: Subj: Re: CSMSM Date: 5/25/00 7:12:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: mdud...@execonn.com (Marshall Dudley) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com mzo...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, I just looked in the archives trying to locate something about the possible detrimental effects of MSM. I found a few tidbits there, but not what I was looking for, so I'll pose some questions here. Does anyone have an idea as why when upon taking MSM for the first time last night, it made me sick. I think I am allergic to it. You may have some with some impurities in it. We have bought 4 different brands of MSM and one of them makes my wife sick. They are all suppose to be pure, but I suspect that one has some leftover solvents in it or something. Why would one be allergic to a natural substance from the earth? I know it was the MSM that made me sick, for within an hour or so of taking it, I began getting a feverish achy feeling all over. I went to bed early, tossed and turned all night (my husband said I was even moaning when I was asleep). I felt as if I had the flu. This morning I am feeling better after LOTS of water to flush it out of my system. Those are exactly the same symptoms my wife gets on that particular brand. Many years ago, enough so that I had totally forgotten (until last night) I had some sulfur prescribed for something or other. I had a reaction to it then too...feverish flu like symtoms. You are likely referring to a sulfa drug. Entirely different animal. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
I would like to know this also. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, brownin...@hotmail.com writes: Subj: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: 5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: brownin...@hotmail.com (rob gr) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSInfantile asthma -- Will CS help?
In a message dated 5/19/00 12:15:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Subj: Re: CSInfantile asthma -- Will CS help? Date: 5/19/00 12:15:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: liah...@pacbell.net (Marsha Hallett) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Dear Christy, All I can say is since I began taking CS 4 years ago, I have had no more asthma, and only tiny effects of hay fever, a few sneezes and itchy eyes, which a fresh dose of CS stops. In my opinion, CS will help her!! Marsha Hi Marsha Just wondering are you still on cs daily and have you taken it for 4 years straight every day? Thanks, Christy...a different Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver - an article
I was not able to access that article. I someone could post it that would be appreciated. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 5/12/00 2:47:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, i...@win.co.nz writes: Subj: Re: CSSilver - an article Date: 5/12/00 2:47:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: i...@win.co.nz (Ivan Anderson) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Dear Jeanne, That is good news! UTI, arthritic inflammation, dry eyes, cold infection, and morning breath, banished over night... wow! No wonder you're chuffed. (My Uncle swears he can bowl all day long now that he takes CS, whereas his legs couldn't go past a couple of hours beforehand.) No Herxheimer reaction or die-off either. BTW did you happen to read the article ;-) Regards Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver - an article
Hi Marsha and all, I have wondered weather silver is considered a heavy metal or not. Like for instance, I believe aluminum and mercury are considered heavy metals which are thought to be able to cause health problems when they build up in the body. What is different about silver? Excuse my ignorance but I just don't know the intricacies of these things. Christy In a message dated 5/12/00 8:34:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Subj: Re: CSSilver - an article Date: 5/12/00 8:34:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: liah...@pacbell.net (Marsha Hallett) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com This is a very interesting read. http://www.silverinstitute.org/news/bkhealthmet.html Ivan. Dear Ivan, Yeah, but this part bugs me: The removal of silver and other heavy metals is the function of the metallothioneins. These ubiquitous proteins are found in all vertebrates and invertebrates and act to transport, store, and detoxify essential and nonessential trace metals. The metallothioneins chelate or agglomerate heavy metals and convey them from the body. Their action can be overwhelmed by ingestion of excessive amounts of heavy metals. In the case of silver, excessive amounts may eventually deposit in the skin, giving it a gray color. This deposit is called argyria and cannot be removed. Silver, being a highly conductive metal, has been shown to have a deleterious effect in the presence of nerve cells. While heavy metals are blocked from the nervous system and the brain by the blood-brain barrier by a membrane whose purpose is to filter out heavy metals, certain stresses, such as hypoxemia (the dangerously low level of oxygen in the blood that occurs to some climbers at very high altitudes), may weaken this barrier. Silver is NOT a heavy metal, and CS has never been shown to cause argyria. Sigh... Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOT hair color 4 gray hair OffTopic
In a message dated 5/11/00 7:52:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mailer-dae...@aol.com writes: Hi. I am wondering if people can tell me about safe forms of hair coloring. I'm only 30 but have some gray hair...actually they are white hairs...have never seen a gray one. My dad got gray hair early and I think his mom did so that is probably at least part of the cause. I am rifing and doing supplements etc. but still have gray hairs. I have tried lots of shades of pure henna from the health food store and they do not bother me. It is just a powdered form of an herb and you ad water. I have multiple chemical sensitivities and I got another type of hair color from the health food store that said natural on it and made from plants. I bought this a long time ago and never used it because I was trying various shades of henna. Anyway, I recently got it out to look at it and it does have lots of plant products in it but some of the ingredients do not sound natural to me and I opened 2 bottles up and they smelled bad and made me nauseous. The one bottle smelled like finger nail polish or wine. Anyway, the only problem with the henna is that al the shades make my hair darker. They cover up my natural highlights and i think I look better with the blondish highlights which help bring out my green eyes. With the henna...even light brown...by light brown hair with blondish highlights becomes what I call dark brown. But, the company says they cannot make blond henna b/c its not possible and they have tried. With henna it never lightens your hair. It just coats it and helps cover the gray. Some products at walgreens you can get which won't lighten your hair but will just cover it..so like you can get blond and the gray will become blond...like Castings for example which you use like once a month. But, I opened that stuff up and smelled it and it stunk and made me nauseous. So, I just thought I would through this out their in case someone may know of something I don't know about. One company at a second health food store with a different brand of henna has a blond henna but the ingredients actually say neutral henna with chamomile and marigold herbs in the mix. I did try it just to see what would happen but it did not cover the gray at all. Thanks, Christy ---BeginMessage--- The original message was received at Thu, 11 May 2000 22:51:21 -0400 (EDT) from r...@localhost *** ATTENTION *** Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section labeled: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -. The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section labeled: - Transcript of Session Follows -. The line beginning with describes the specific reason your e-mail could not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a general translation for other e-mail servers. Please direct further questions regarding this message to the e-mail administrator or Postmaster at that destination. --AOL Postmaster - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - rife-l...@eskimo.com - Transcript of session follows - ... while talking to mx1.eskimo.com.: RCPT To:rife-l...@eskimo.com 550 rife-l...@eskimo.com... User unknown 550 rife-l...@eskimo.com... User unknown Final-Recipient: RFC822; rife-l...@eskimo.com Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.eskimo.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 rife-l...@eskimo.com... User unknown Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ritz3...@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v26.7.) id 1.92.4bb5087 (4561); Thu, 11 May 2000 22:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Return-path: ritz3...@aol.com From: ritz3...@aol.com Message-ID: 92.4bb5087.264cc...@aol.com Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:51:20 EDT Subject: hair coloring to cover gray hair To: rife-alt-hea...@topica.com CC: rife-l...@eskimo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 100 Hi. I am wondering if people can tell me about safe forms of hair coloring. I'm only 30 but have some gray hair...actually they are white hairs...have never seen a gray one. My dad got gray hair early and I think his mom did so that is probably at least part of the cause. I am rifing and doing supplements etc. but still have gray hairs. I have tried lots of shades of pure henna from the health food store and they do not bother me. It is just a powdered form of an herb and you ad water. I have multiple chemical sensitivities and I got another type of hair color from the health food store that said natural on it and made from plants. I bought this a long time ago and never used it because I was trying various shades of henna. Anyway, I recently got it out to look at it and
Re: CSExcessweatinginfectionsLyme?
Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus and also HIV I believe as well as TB can cause night sweats. Maybe other infections do also.Anyone know if Lyme does? Christy n a message dated 5/7/00 10:14:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, l...@fbtc.net writes: Subj: Re: CSExcessive sweating Date: 5/7/00 10:14:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: l...@fbtc.net (Tai-Pan) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Kathy, Here is more info relevant to sweating. Sometimes a deficiency in vitamin B12 and zinc can contribute to excess sweating. Another possibility is low nicotinic acid (Niacin). The body makes its own niacin from the amino acid tryptophan. Your body can not do it if you are deficient in B1, B2, and B6. Profuse sweating can be a sign of infection, heart disease, an over active thyroid or the onset of tuberculosis. Possible Homeopathy remedies are acidum hydrofluoricum, silicea, calcarea, these are available at health food stores. Another possibility is enzyme deficiency, consult a good book on enzyme therapy or see a practitioner. Enzyme problems are usually connected with thyroid disorders, which in turn affect the skin and sweat glands. A useful herbal powder can be prepared using tree tea oil and ginger powder. Inclusion of lavender essential oil will give it a nice fragrance. Here is how to do it. In a large jar combine 1/2 cup powdered arrowroot, 1/2 cup of cosmetic clay, 2 tablespoons of powdered ginger. Shake to mix, add 20 drops of tree tea oil or /and lavender essential oil and shake again. You may want to put it through a fine mesh strainer to eliminate any clumps. Store in a dark covered jar. Bless youBob Lee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSMSM-age spots?
I wonder if that would work for age spots also? Christy In a message dated 5/2/00 9:49:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, a...@trail.com writes: I have however sprayed a mixture of MSM on a pre-cancerous neoplasm near my eye , and gotten it in the eye without discomfort. I have been doing this for about 3 months. The weird spot, diagnosed by both a GP and a Dermatolgist, is fading away. I suspect if I used a small adhesive bandage and kept it moist, that the result would happen much faster, but I don't like the effect of the adhesive on my skin, which I think is a toxic reaction both to being sealed from the air, and the glue itself. The original most common route of administration of CS when used in the '20s and 30's was intravenous. James Osbourne Holmes FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS and HIV
HI. I was wondering how much you are taking of the CS and how many times a day. Also, when in January did you start it and when was your blood drawn for the tests? Do you know what parts per million you are taking. It sounds like there has been improvement so that is good!! I would NOT assume you have reached a plateau b/c people with other chronic infections like Lyme from what I understand I believe slowly improve over many months for example. I would not be too excited about prescription drugs for AIDS. Keep with the CS and possibly increase? Also, you may want to check out www.sota-inc.com and also look into rifing just in case you may be interested. To start looking into that go to www.rt66.com/~rifetech/ and follow the links. Best wishes. Hang in there and don't give up. It sounds like you are making progress. Christy n a message dated 5/3/00 7:55:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, corni...@hotmail.com writes: Subj: CS and HIV Date: 5/3/00 7:55:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: corni...@hotmail.com (Chad Powell) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSTests 4 Lyme OT
Hi. I am just curious what tests the lyme patients have had for Lyme and which are reliable. Thanks, Christy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma?
Hi Marsha, I didn't know you had Lyme. Did antibiotics get you over that? Do you think the asthma in part was a result of the lyme? Take care, Christy In a message dated 4/19/00 3:51:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Dear Christy, I have only been living here for 17 months. She was sick long before that, first becoming ill at 21 or so. I have wondered if she didn`t have Lyme Disease originally, from ticks in Idaho where we grew up. She was outdoorsy, I`m not. More a book person... I got my Lyme in Arkansas, from deer ticks in the backyard. I have no idea about the bugs you mention. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma?
Hi Marsha, That is great to hear. What Parts Per Million do you use? Do you make your own? Suggest any machines one can buy? Do you take it daily? How much do you take? Do you not normally take it orally...do you take it with a neublizer sometimes? How long have you been taking it? also, with the asthma did you notice you where more short of breath in a warm environment and could breath easier in a fairly cool environment? Did you also notice that drinking lots of water...especially cool water helped you to be able to breath easier? Did you also notice that if it was kind of warm in your house etc. and you were talking for a while you would get quite out of breath? thanks so much, Christy In a message dated 4/18/00 4:01:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Subj: Re: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma? Date: 4/18/00 4:01:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: liah...@pacbell.net (Marsha Hallett) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com I would also like to know about this. Thanks, Christy Recently someone mentioned how Cs needs to be used in the best way for the best results. How should it be used for asthma? Karen Dear Christy and Karen, I used to be asthmatic, mainly it was allergic reactions. Since good old CS came into my life, I no longer get attacks, just a few wheezes occasionally. When that happens, I take more CS by mouth, and it goes away. One can also put it up the nose using an empty saline spritzer. I love this stuff! My current eye infection is nearly gone, after two doses of CS in the eye. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma?
Marsha, I was just curious when you got the asthma and when your sister got sick and if you had much contact. I was thinking maybe you both could have been infected with a pathogenic strain of mycoplasma or Chlamydia pneumonia or something since these hare being associated with these types of illness by some researchers. Take care, Christy n a message dated 4/18/00 9:48:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: I`ve been taking CS off and on for 4 years come May. I haven`t used a nebulizer, don`t have one. My sister, who has MS, insulin-dependant diabetes, and lung disease from second-hand smoke and chemicals at work, and is now totally disabled at age 58, won`t even try CS -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSallergic reactions
Rapid heart beat or palpitations is a herx/die off symptoms for me with antibiotics as well as rifing and I know others who report the same thing. it decreases and then goes away with time. Christy In a message dated 4/19/00 8:39:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mdev...@mail.id.net writes: She had all the classic symptoms of allergic reaction -- rapid heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood pressure (dizziness and tunnel vision), etc... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma?
I would also like to know about this. Thanks, Christy n a message dated 4/18/00 5:13:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, fernwo...@aol.com writes: Subj: CSHow shoud Cs be used for asthma? Date: 4/18/00 5:13:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: fernwo...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Recently someone mentioned how Cs needs to be used in the best way for the best results. How should it be used for asthma? Karen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
