Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

True...Frank has the equipment and knows how to use it..and it's the *correct
*equipment for the job.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 11:31 AM  wrote:

> Ode,
>
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> This source is directly linked to Frank Key's Mesosilver business.
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> http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/
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>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:
>
> What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an
> exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs
> ionic would also be nice.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[Marshall]

I dug out my old Hanna silver ion meter.  It measures ionic silver, so 
as such was not much more valuable than doing a conductivity test.  
However I now realize all I needed to do is digest the colloidal silver 
to be able to measure total silver content.  I was wondering what is 
recommended for doing this.  There are a number of choices, nitric and 
sulfuric acid and ammonia are several that can do this, but they are 
pretty nasty.  The Hach procedure involved both sulfuric and nitric 
acid, boiling dry, refluxing, then neutralizing.  It required a fume 
hood and about an hour to complete.  It seems that there should be a 
simpler, safer and quicker method for colloid, like using citric or 
acetic acid, then neutralizing with baking soda or something.


Thanks,

Marshall

On 4/19/2020 9:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall > wrote:


What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I
need an
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Ode,
Fo r what it's worth:
"Ceasers Wife"
 L'esposa de Cèsar no només ha de ser honrada, sinó semblar-ho
This source is directly linked to Frank Key's Mesosilver business.
Just saying,
Arnold

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http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:
What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Rich DiDonato, Quality/ISO Manager
Mutual Cornell Environmental
136 Corliss Street, Providence, RI  02904
(401) 274-9998 (Telephone)
(401) 274-9990 (Telefax)
Website: mutualcornell.com



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What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

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RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Ode,
Fo r what it's worth:
"Ceasers Wife"
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This source is directly linked to Frank Key's Mesosilver business.
Just saying,
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From: Ode Coyote
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Subject: Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:
What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[Ode Coyote]

http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:37 PM Marshall  wrote:

> What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an
> exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs
> ionic would also be nice.
>
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>
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Re: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[Neville Munn]

Marshall, here's a couple of questions for you, if you don't mind, or anyone.

Testing

Do they use a 0.45 micron paper filter.

Do they use atomic absorption spectroscopy using AgNO3 STDS (whatever STDS is, 
and I think NO3 is Nitric acid?)

I ask because many years ago I had 3 samples tested at an Industrial complex 
when I had a relative working there in the Water Treatment Department, he has 
since retired.  Soluble Ag, Total Ag, % ionic/% particulate, Temperature, Ph, 
Conductivity.  I don't know how accurate those tests were.  Distilled Water 
could be different from any bought container?  I ended up with more questions 
than answers?

The thing for me is, it is dependant on temperature when testing is done?  It 
is dependant on when the sample was tested, i.e. immediately after production 
on the day, or a day later, or a week later, and so on until stabilisation of 
the sample ?  A different temperature could possibly give different 
results...Yes/No?  I have a feeling this is more complex than just relying on a 
simple analysis?  Too many factors if you understand for a precise analysis.  
Each sample could be different from the other.

N.


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Subject: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs
ionic would also be nice.

Thanks,

Marshall


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RE: CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[abeland1]

Marshall,
I used mutualcornell to test the 50 PPM made by my "ultra" generators.
https://www.goldismoney2.com/threads/the-art-of-making-colloidal-silver-silver-ions-electrically-isolated-silver.61973/page-6
You can deduce the particulate versus ionic ratio by the results before and 
after the addition of nitric acid.
Best regards,
Arnold


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CS>Testing of Colloidal silver

[Marshall]

What laboratory is recommended for testing colloidal silver.  I need an 
exact measurement of the total silver, but a percentage of colloid vs 
ionic would also be nice.


Thanks,

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Re: CS>testing

[cassidy]

yes, I see it.

On 8/2/2016 11:08 AM, Shirley Reed wrote:

Did this go thru???

Re: CS>testing

[Lena Guyot]

Yes

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:08 PM, Shirley Reed  wrote:
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> Did this go thru???

Re: CS>testing

[Harsha Godavari]

to where? 

:-) 

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Subject: CS>testing 



Did this go thru??? 

CS>testing

[Shirley Reed]

Did this go thru???

Re: CS>Testing email.

[Ron]

Thanks Dee. Actually I am using Thunderbird and going thru Gmail. Has 
been working fine until now.

If the archives were working I wouldn't have cluttered the list.
Apologies.

Ron

On 3/18/2016 11:48 AM, Dee wrote:

I got this Ron, and all your other postsDee

Sent from my iPad


On 18 Mar 2016, at 18:23, Ron  wrote:

I don't seem to be able to get anything to post and nothing has gone into the 
archives in a couple of days.


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Re: CS>Testing email.

[Dee]

I got this Ron, and all your other postsDee

Sent from my iPad

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Re: CS>Testing email.

[Joe Huard]

I got all of your posts.

On 2016-03-18 2:23 PM, Ron wrote:
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Re: CS>Testing email.

[jdurand]

 

You're using gmail, it hides your replies. Your posts are working. 

On 2016-03-18 11:23, Ron wrote: 

> I don't seem to be able to get anything to post and nothing has gone into the 
> archives in a couple of days.
 

Re: CS>Testing email.

[Neville]

I don't worry about it anymore Ron, IT nurds are always stuffing around with 
programs or systems or whatever they do to justify their jobs.  Outlook changed 
itself *again*recently and messed around with it.  Technology nowadays is only 
for the yuppies so they can play with their digital doodars all day and not for 
the 'old-ish' people who simply like to keep things simple.  Any wonder 
people's blood pressure sky rockets trying to figure things out with programs 
on computers all the time.

Thank You for you Kind Words anyway mate .

N.


From: Ron 
Sent: Saturday, 19 March 2016 5:52 AM
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Subject: Re: CS>Testing email.

Thanks Dee. Actually I am using Thunderbird and going thru Gmail. Has
been working fine until now.
If the archives were working I wouldn't have cluttered the list.
Apologies.

Ron

On 3/18/2016 11:48 AM, Dee wrote:
> I got this Ron, and all your other postsDee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 18 Mar 2016, at 18:23, Ron  wrote:


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Re: CS>Testing email.

[cassidy]

We see you.

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[Ron]

I don't seem to be able to get anything to post and nothing has gone 
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Re: CS>Testing email.

[Lena Guyot]

Me too, Ron. Léna
On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Dee wrote:

> I got this Ron, and all your other postsDee
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RE: CS>Testing CS

[TREM]

Hello Gary,

 

The generators will sometimes not shut off on the HIGH setting because the 
water will not accept any more ions and it keeps turning them into colloids 
which are not conductive.

Just turn the dial down until it shuts off and that’s the maximum setting for 
the water you’re using.  Usually around 2-3 O:clock will be about right.

 

I hope this helps you.

 

Best regards,

 

Trem Williams

customer_serv...@silvergen.com

www.silvergen.com

 

 

 

 

From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:42 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing CS

 

Hello Trem:

My silvergen will not shut offf after 3-4 hours using good ph distilled water. 
An suggestions. ThankYou

 

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, TREM  wrote:

Alan,

The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
double their readings.

Trem

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Subject: CS>Testing CS

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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Re: CS>Testing CS

[John Popelish]

On 09/30/2014 02:36 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote:

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for
testing CS PPM?


My problem with TDS (total dissolved solids) meters, is that
they have a rather arbitrary calibration, based on the
assumption that the dissolved solid is some particular salt.

I like a true (EC or electrical conductivity) conductivity
meter.  To convert microsiemens per cm conductivity to total
dissolved solids you use a conversion factor to calculate
the dissolved solids value for a specific substance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conductivity_%28electrolytic%29
http://www.tdsmeter.com/what-is?id=0019

Unfortunately, colloidal silver gives a different
conductivity (lower) that ionic silver, for the same
concentration.

But either TDS or EC meters should give consistent and
repeatable results for silver water made by the same method
(where the ratio of colloidal to ionic silver should be
pretty consistent).  So if you like the solution you have
made, making it, again, to the same reading, should produce
about the same solution.

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Re: CS>Testing CS

[Gary Hilt]

Hello Trem:
My silvergen will not shut offf after 3-4 hours using good ph distilled
water. An suggestions. ThankYou

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, TREM  wrote:

> Alan,
>
> The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
> TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
> double their readings.
>
> Trem
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 11:36 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Testing CS
>
> I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?
>
> Alan
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RE: CS>Testing CS

[TREM]

Alan,

The HI98308 is the PWT and it measures directly in PPM from .1 to 99.9 PPM
TDS meters read in whole numbers and only read about 1/2 the silver so you
double their readings.

Trem

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Testing CS

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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CS>Testing CS

[Alan Faulkner]

I have a Hanna 98308 TDS meter. Is it accurate for testing CS PPM?

Alan


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Re: CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Mike Monett]

Ken, 

I'm sure glad you know how to tell the difference, and left all the good
stuff!

And thanks for confirming my figure of a 60% drop in conductivity with your
own measurments of 65%. That shows the problem is real and affects everyone.

Thanks,

Mike Monett

Ode Coyote  wrote:

> Hogwash deleted.

>Ode

>At 06:21 AM 5/7/2012 -0400, you wrote:
>>Ode Coyote  wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>> >No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a
>> >devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that
>> >won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.after the conductivity stops 
>> dropping.
>> >
>> >The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little
>> >bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild 
>> guess.
>> >
>> >Ode


>>If you are seeing a significnt conductivity drop after the brew is
>>finished, you have a contamination problem, most likely silver sulfide, or
>>severe leaching from your soda-lime glass. This can easily give 60% drop in
>>conductivity. If you remove the contamination, the conductivity drop should
>>be around 8% or less.
>>
>>The conductivity of a solution is defined as the reciprocal of the
>>resistance of a 1cm cube. The conductivity is directly proportional to the
>>number of charge carriers in the solution. This is a linear function over
>>the entire range of conductivities we use.
>>
>>For example, the Hanna HI 7033 Calibration Solution is 84uS/cm at 25C. This
>>is a single point calibration, meaning all other measurements fit on a
>>straight line down to zero and are a linear function of the conductivity.
>>
>>For silver and hydroxide ions, the relationship between conductivity and
>>ppm is 1uS = 1 ppm, providing you have no contamination.
>>
>>I did a study long ago that shows this. Note the measurements cover the
>>range of 3.3uS to 26uS. Here is the url:
>>
>>http://silvercentral.org/measure/1us2ppm.htm
>>
>>There is no reason to expect any deviation above this value, for example in
>>the SilverCell process that can easily reach 44uS.
>>
>>If your measurements indicate the results above 30uS are a "wild guess",
>>then there is something seriously wrong with your measurements, or you have
>>significant contamination problems, or both.
>>
>>Since you seem to be insensitive to contamination problems, I would guess
>>both.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Ode Coyote]

  Hogwash deleted.

Ode



At 06:21 AM 5/7/2012 -0400, you wrote:

Ode Coyote  wrote:

[...]

>No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a
>devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that
>won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.after the conductivity stops 
dropping.

>
>The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little
>bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild 
guess.

>
>Ode

If you are seeing a significnt conductivity drop after the brew is
finished, you have a contamination problem, most likely silver sulfide, or
severe leaching from your soda-lime glass. This can easily give 60% drop in
conductivity. If you remove the contamination, the conductivity drop should
be around 8% or less.

The conductivity of a solution is defined as the reciprocal of the
resistance of a 1cm cube. The conductivity is directly proportional to the
number of charge carriers in the solution. This is a linear function over
the entire range of conductivities we use.

For example, the Hanna HI 7033 Calibration Solution is 84uS/cm at 25C. This
is a single point calibration, meaning all other measurements fit on a
straight line down to zero and are a linear function of the conductivity.

For silver and hydroxide ions, the relationship between conductivity and
ppm is 1uS = 1 ppm, providing you have no contamination.

I did a study long ago that shows this. Note the measurements cover the
range of 3.3uS to 26uS. Here is the url:

http://silvercentral.org/measure/1us2ppm.htm

There is no reason to expect any deviation above this value, for example in
the SilverCell process that can easily reach 44uS.

If your measurements indicate the results above 30uS are a "wild guess",
then there is something seriously wrong with your measurements, or you have
significant contamination problems, or both.

Since you seem to be insensitive to contamination problems, I would guess
both.

Thanks,

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Re: CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Mike Monett]

Ode Coyote  wrote:

[...]

>No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a 
>devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that 
>won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.after the conductivity stops dropping.
>
>The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little 
>bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild guess.
>
>Ode

If you are seeing a significnt conductivity drop after the brew is
finished, you have a contamination problem, most likely silver sulfide, or
severe leaching from your soda-lime glass. This can easily give 60% drop in
conductivity. If you remove the contamination, the conductivity drop should
be around 8% or less.

The conductivity of a solution is defined as the reciprocal of the
resistance of a 1cm cube. The conductivity is directly proportional to the
number of charge carriers in the solution. This is a linear function over
the entire range of conductivities we use. 

For example, the Hanna HI 7033 Calibration Solution is 84uS/cm at 25C. This
is a single point calibration, meaning all other measurements fit on a
straight line down to zero and are a linear function of the conductivity.

For silver and hydroxide ions, the relationship between conductivity and
ppm is 1uS = 1 ppm, providing you have no contamination. 

I did a study long ago that shows this. Note the measurements cover the
range of 3.3uS to 26uS. Here is the url:

http://silvercentral.org/measure/1us2ppm.htm

There is no reason to expect any deviation above this value, for example in
the SilverCell process that can easily reach 44uS.

If your measurements indicate the results above 30uS are a "wild guess",
then there is something seriously wrong with your measurements, or you have
significant contamination problems, or both. 

Since you seem to be insensitive to contamination problems, I would guess
both.

Thanks,

Mike Monett


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Re: CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Mike Monett]

I missed Melly's post so I will reply through here.

TDS meters can have different calibration depensing on the application. One
is a factor of 2 different from conductivity measured with a pwt. The other
calibration is a different number.

You often cannot tell which number was used to calibrate the TDS. So you
cannot simply double the reading.

If you have a pwt also, simply measure the cs with both meters and take the
ratio. This will tell you what the calibration factor is.

You most likely have some silver sulfide tarnish on the electrodes from
automobile combustion and other sources. This releases sulfur ions into the
solution during the brew and can significantly disrupt the brew. The sulfur
contamination cannot be detected with a pwt.

By far the best way to detemine the quality of your cs is with the Salt
Test. It is immune to the contamination and will give you a direct
indication of the silver ion content. Please see the following link for
more information.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/silvercentral/message/560?l=1

Thanks,

Mike Monett

Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>
>Both meters measure conductivity and particles aren't conductive.
>You have it backwards.
>
>Meters detect ONLY ionic content.
>
>The PWT doesn't run the conductivity number through an equation meant for 
>salt water.  Roughly double a TDS number to get what a PWT says.
>No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a 
>devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that 
>won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.after the conductivity stops dropping.
>
>The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little 
>bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild guess.
>
>Ode
>
>At 06:56 PM 5/5/2012 -0700, you wrote:
>>Monette M mentioned that ionic silver 20+ PPM is good to take when one is 
>>ill.  How does one measure  ionic silver's ppm.  I have both PWT and TDS 
>>meters and i understand they measure colloidal silver's particles.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Melly
>


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Re: CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Ode Coyote]

Both meters measure conductivity and particles aren't conductive.
You have it backwards.

Meters detect ONLY ionic content.

The PWT doesn't run the conductivity number through an equation meant for 
salt water.  Roughly double a TDS number to get what a PWT says.
No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a 
devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that 
won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.after the conductivity stops dropping.


The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little 
bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild guess.


Ode

At 06:56 PM 5/5/2012 -0700, you wrote:
Monette M mentioned that ionic silver 20+ PPM is good to take when one is 
ill.  How does one measure  ionic silver's ppm.  I have both PWT and TDS 
meters and i understand they measure colloidal silver's particles.


Thanks.

Melly

CS>Testing PPM of ionic silver

[Melly Bag]

Monette M mentioned that ionic silver 20+ PPM is good to take when one is ill.  
How does one measure  ionic silver's ppm.  I have both PWT and TDS meters and i 
understand they measure colloidal silver's particles.
 
Thanks.
 
Melly

Re: CS>testing with PH test strips

[Lin]

I would like to test my cs at differet PPM's for how alkaline it is, but am not 
sure what type of strips I need to accomplish this with.
Can anyone tell me what to shop for?
Thanks, Lin


 

RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Tony Moody]

Hi Neville,

The keeping wet instruction is to prevent premature death of the pH 
probe. they go for years if looked after properly . Some probes may go 
down, never to recover, in a month or so if not cared for. 

OK,
Tony

On 5 Jul 2010 at 10:57, Neville Munn wrote about :
Subject : RE: CS>Testing pH?

> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time.  I
> don't think that's important for my purpose though.  I'd say that's only
> if a degree of accuracy was of the utmost importance, more in laboratory
> situations I suspect as opposed to the kitchen benchtop.
> 
> I think I've got the answer I've been looking for.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> N.
> 
> 
> 
> > From: a...@new.co.za
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:24:33 +0200
> > Subject: RE: CS>Testing pH?
> > 
> > Hi Neville,
> > 
> > Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed
> > pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory,
> > watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters,
> > there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower
> > range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is
> > sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set.
> > 
> > A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or
> > been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH.
> > 
> > OK,
> > Tony
> > 
> > On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about :
> > Subject : RE: CS>Testing pH?
> > 
> > > 
> > > This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
> > > anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to
> > > take a measurement *as is*.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
> > > wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Why do you add the reagent Harold?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing
> > > or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
> > > neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
> > > just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > N.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > From: har...@telus.net
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject: CS>Testing pH?
> > > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue
> > > reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water.
> > > 
> > > Harold 
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

Continued reading up on ph testing is gradually steering me towards either test 
strips or those el cheapo type meters similar to soil moisture testers, just a 
long prong you stick in the dirt {or in this case, water}, either of the above 
seems like the best 'less fuss' option for my purpose.

 

N.
 
> From: mdev...@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:02:40 -0500
> Subject: RE: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> Neville writes:
> > Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. 
> > I don't think that's important for my purpose though. 
> 
> I'd have to ask my wife, the scientist, but i seem to remember that 
> some pH probes do have to be protected by keeping them in a calibration 
> solution all the time when not in use, or they might go bad.
> 
> I'll ask her, but if the equipment manufacturer says so, you'd probably 
> want to do it.
> 
> Be well,
> 
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[M. G. Devour]

Neville writes:
> Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time. 
> I don't think that's important for my purpose though. 

I'd have to ask my wife, the scientist, but i seem to remember that 
some pH probes do have to be protected by keeping them in a calibration 
solution all the time when not in use, or they might go bad.

I'll ask her, but if the equipment manufacturer says so, you'd probably 
want to do it.

Be well,

Mike D.

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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

Hi Tony,
 
Most articles I've read talk about keeping that probe wet all the time.  I 
don't think that's important for my purpose though.  I'd say that's only if a 
degree of accuracy was of the utmost importance, more in laboratory situations 
I suspect as opposed to the kitchen benchtop.
 
I think I've got the answer I've been looking for.

 

Cheers

 
N.
 
 
 
> From: a...@new.co.za
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:24:33 +0200
> Subject: RE: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> Hi Neville,
> 
> Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed 
> pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, 
> watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, 
> there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower 
> range of the desired measurement range. But usually only one solution is 
> sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set.
> 
> A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or 
> been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH.
> 
> OK,
> Tony
> 
> On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about :
> Subject : RE: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> > 
> > This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
> > anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a
> > measurement *as is*.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
> > wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you add the reagent Harold?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or
> > decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
> > neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
> > just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > N.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: har...@telus.net
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Testing pH?
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
> > drops in a measured amt of water.
> > 
> > Harold 
> > _
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Ode Coyote]

  Exactly.

The  Litumus paper is to see what the PH is, the buffer to change it and 
Litumus paper is to see what the PH is then.


Ode

At 09:55 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:

Don't know if you've misunderstood the question Ode?

Most articles I read about pH testing there is mention of a buffer 
solution, not being chemistry minded, and my understanding in these 
matters is minimal {whilst I continue my search for relevant material} 
therefore I just wanted to know if a meter/paper could be used *as is* 
without the necessity for that buffer solution.


It seems to me that the reason buffer solutions are used is if one wishes 
to *change* the acidity or alkalinity of that solution which is being 
tested as a means of 'compensation'...I don't want to *change* or 
*compensate* for anything...just want to know if I can dip the paper/meter 
in the water and use that pH reading as a reference of pH of that solution.


Do you follow what I'm saying?

PH will be different at cessation of production to what it will be after 
suitable time frame has elapsed...to a point whereby I suppose the pH 
reaches a point of 'stabilization?'...Yes/No?  Not dissimilar to the 
silver solution time frame for stabilization.


N.

> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0400
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> From: odecoy...@windstream.net
> Subject: Re: CS>Testing pH?
>
>
>
> It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the
> paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to
> test the solution both before and after buffering it.
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
> >If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I 
need

> >to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper
> >strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
> >
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Tony Moody]

Hi Neville,

Taking a guess here . The buffer may be a solution made up to be a fixed 
pH for testing and monitoring and adjusting the pH meter. From memory, 
watching others setting up and calibrating pH electrodes and meters, 
there were two such solutions at or near the ends of the upper and lower 
range of the desired measurement range.  But usually only one solution is 
sufficient for checking, once the meter and electrode is set.

A buffer solution is chosen to be a stable pH even though it has aged or 
been stuffed up in other ways. It should be a steady, reliable known pH.

OK,
Tony

On 3 Jul 2010 at 11:28, Neville Munn wrote about :
Subject : RE: CS>Testing pH?

> 
> This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
> anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a
> measurement *as is*.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
> wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
> 
> 
> 
> Why do you add the reagent Harold?
> 
> 
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or
> decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
> neutral pH are they not?  I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
> just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
> 
> 
> 
> N.
> 
> 
> 
> From: har...@telus.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Testing pH?
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
> drops in a measured amt of water.
> 
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

Oops, OK, Sorry, my mistake.

 

I did say my knowledge of chemistry was minimal {but I am still reading in an 
attempt to get a better grasp of pH testing methods} .

 

N.
 
> From: mdev...@eskimo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:21:13 -0500
> Subject: RE: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> Neville,
> 
> The chemical Harold is adding is not a buffer, but simply an 
> *indicator* that changes color over a range of pH. It's a similar thing 
> to the stuff that's soaked into litmus paper. It should *not* change 
> the pH of the sample, if it's properly designed and made.
> 
> Buffers, as you say, are designed to adjust the pH to a particular 
> value, and don't necessarily have anything to do with measuring the pH. 
> The only way I can think they might is by measuring the amount needed 
> to achieve that pH change you could possibly get some indication of the 
> composition of the acid or alkaline chemistry of the sample. That's 
> just a guess on my part, however. I don't have any experience with such 
> systems.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> > 
> > This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
> > anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take
> > a measurement *as is*.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
> > wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Why do you add the reagent Harold?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing
> > or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
> > neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
> > just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > N.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: har...@telus.net
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Testing pH?
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
> > drops in a measured amt of water.
> > 
> > Harold 
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[M. G. Devour]

Neville,

The chemical Harold is adding is not a buffer, but simply an 
*indicator* that changes color over a range of pH. It's a similar thing 
to the stuff that's soaked into litmus paper. It should *not* change 
the pH of the sample, if it's properly designed and made.

Buffers, as you say, are designed to adjust the pH to a particular 
value, and don't necessarily have anything to do with measuring the pH. 
The only way I can think they might is by measuring the amount needed 
to achieve that pH change you could possibly get some indication of the 
composition of the acid or alkaline chemistry of the sample. That's 
just a guess on my part, however. I don't have any experience with such 
systems.

Be well,

Mike D.

> 
> This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change
> anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take
> a measurement *as is*.
> 
> 
> 
> I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply
> wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.
> 
> 
> 
> Why do you add the reagent Harold?
> 
> 
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing
> or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a
> neutral pH are they not?  I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything,
> just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.
> 
> 
> 
> N.
> 
> 
> 
> From: har...@telus.net
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Testing pH?
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2
> drops in a measured amt of water.
> 
> Harold  
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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change 
anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a 
measurement *as is*.

 

I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting 
to take a straight measurement of water or a solution.

 

Why do you add the reagent Harold?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or 
decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH 
are they not?  I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading 
of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch.

 

N.
 


From: har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Testing pH?
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700




I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops 
in a measured amt of water.
 
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CS>Testing pH?

[Harold MacDonald]

I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops 
in a measured amt of water.

Harold

RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

Thank You kind Sir.

 

N.
 
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:31:40 -0400
> From: mdud...@king-cart.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> Neville Munn wrote:
> > If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I 
> > need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or 
> > paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
> > 
> > N.
> >
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> Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer.
> 
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Re: CS>Testing pH?

[Marshall Dudley]

Neville Munn wrote:
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I 
need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or 
paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
 
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Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer.

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RE: CS>Testing pH?

[Neville Munn]

Don't know if you've misunderstood the question Ode?

 

Most articles I read about pH testing there is mention of a buffer solution, 
not being chemistry minded, and my understanding in these matters is minimal 
{whilst I continue my search for relevant material} therefore I just wanted to 
know if a meter/paper could be used *as is* without the necessity for that 
buffer solution.

 

It seems to me that the reason buffer solutions are used is if one wishes to 
*change* the acidity or alkalinity of that solution which is being tested as a 
means of 'compensation'...I don't want to *change* or *compensate* for 
anything...just want to know if I can dip the paper/meter in the water and use 
that pH reading as a reference of pH of that solution.

 

Do you follow what I'm saying?

 

PH will be different at cessation of production to what it will be after 
suitable time frame has elapsed...to a point whereby I suppose the pH reaches a 
point of 'stabilization?'...Yes/No?  Not dissimilar to the silver solution time 
frame for stabilization.

 

N.
 
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0400
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> Subject: Re: CS>Testing pH?
> 
> 
> 
> It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the 
> paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to 
> test the solution both before and after buffering it.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
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Re: CS>Testing pH?

[Ode Coyote]

  It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the 
paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to 
test the solution both before and after buffering it.


Ode


At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need 
to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper 
strips...in, out, job done so to speak?


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[Neville Munn]

If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to 
use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, 
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Re: CS>testing

[Richard Goodwin]

same here



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Subject: CS>testing

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RE: CS>Testing....

[Scott Adams]

Thanks I will pass this information on to her.
 
Did you notice any GI problems during this time? That would seem to have
killed off your good gut bacteria.


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From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing


Have her try the treatment every twenty minutes to totally
saturate her tissues and see if that doesn't do the trick.
I'm not in remission --I got rid of it.
I had done a lot of research on it as well and that is why I figured a total
saturation would have to be done(take more in than your body can eliminate).
Dave 


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Scott Adams  wrote:


I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in that
short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We can say its
in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one spirochete is in a
cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the body gets stressed.
 
If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I just
find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have been doing
on this disease in the last 3 years.
 

Scott Adams
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From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>Testing


After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came back
positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I only
stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before it
even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went through
in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time
to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:


Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty


On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance
of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> >
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Marshall Dudley]

My experience is that chronic Lyme responds favorably to CS alone, but 
it is impossible to completely cure because it hides in places where CS 
cannot get to.  I have found that to cure chronic Lyme requires the full 
Bob Beck protocol, especially the pulser to get it out of the lymph and 
joints.


Marshall

Scott Adams wrote:
I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in 
that short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We 
can say its in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one 
spirochete is in a cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the 
body gets stressed.
 
If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I 
just find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have 
been doing on this disease in the last 3 years.
 
Scott Adams
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<http://www.msadams.com/>

Moderator of Lyme_rife yahoo list
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Rife/


*From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
    *Subject:* Re: CS>Testing

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish
granted.com <http://granted.com> and it took me three days to rid
myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests
came back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this
area . As if I only stayed here. I contacted the disease in
Germany in1957. That was before it even had a name. If you have
late Lyme you can imagine what I went through in that length of
time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time to heal
from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty mailto:papad...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty

On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin mailto:davedar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you
capitalize lime to make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with
the appearance of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in
"Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking
about limes?
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don't I just use as much as works!  I had my lymph gland which comes  
up the jaw and into the cheek, suddenly hurt and swelled right up like  
a balloon.  I drank about forty mls of my CS which is approximately  
10ppm (between 5-8 on the TDS meter)  every ten minutes or so for two  
hours and it shrunk to almost nothing.  Took the same every half hour  
and in four hours total, it had gone.  dee


On 20 Aug 2009, at 02:55, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:

Dee.I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how  
often folks take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme.  However, no posts  
have actually spoke to the strength of the solution, which to me  
seems to be a very important variable.  For instance, one teaspoon  
of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more silver than 1 gallon  
of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there making your  
own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or  
are you just guessing?  If you do, what do you use for quality  
control?


Mike

RE: CS>Testing....

[Neville Munn]

Nothing wrong with battery units.  *All* generators have a use just as *all* 
solutions or suspensions have a use, one just needs to know when to use a 
battery one and how/why and in what circumstance one would use it, that's 
something this 'one' decides.

 

Sorry Dave but must support the grass roots of the industry, not polite to turn 
ones back on ones roots.  It's not all about the 'teeniest weeniest itty bitty' 
particles in 'crystal clear mountain glacier' water, there's far more to it 
than that for me which is why I must defend the little beggars...for all their 
rudimentary crudeness.

 

N.
 


Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:07:17 -0700
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
From: davedar...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

I used 20 ppm approx. for my battle with Lyme. The colloid master Model 777 
www.wishgranted.com makes a gallon at a time with a sun tea jar using two maple 
leaves hung in the water with flat straps so they stay straight with each 
other,you can decant from the spigot without filtering.
No stirring needed as the polarity is reversed every 55 seconds. 
No hassle to that arrangement.
I wouldn't have anything else. Of course I don't get any kicks out of sitting 
in the middle of my lawn and watching the grass grow either. That is about what 
you get with the battery arrangements.
Dave


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM, MaryAnn Helland  
wrote:




Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We are 
happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20 ppms.  
Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't guessing -- we're 
using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester (available from 
www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit into your silver 
solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate ppm level.  Yes -- 
approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms of silver -- there 
actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this comes pretty darn close 
for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for mine.  Plus shipping.  
Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory that the lower ppm-level CS 
is as effective, or more effective than the higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms 
are just fine.  Quality control is mostly visual -- if you process it 
correctly, and your tester gives you a reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and 
your product is perfectly clear, then you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  
Or, Electrically Isolated Silver, as we like to call it here.  Hope this helps. 
 MA


On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:


> I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks take 
> CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke to the 
> strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important variable. 
> For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more 
> silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
> making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
> are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for quality control?
> 
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Re: CS>Testing....

[luv2howl]

If Invive will help with the Lyme, that's fine by me.I'd rather have skin 
discoloration than continue to be sick (really, I mean itI'd rather glow 
like a neon sign than continue to feel the way I do)

- Original Message -
From: Marshalee Hallett 
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:22 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> Hi! Please STOP taking Invive right now!!! It WILL turn you 
> blue! (and it
> will certainly put you in the poor house...)I`ll email you the 
> directionsfor the simple generator, which makes CS for a few 
> cents a gallon! I have
> used it since 1996, and am now as well as can be, and still pink 
> as a
> piggy! (Fat as one too. sigh...Love that chocolate, way too 
> much! LOL)
> Yes, CS is the ONLY thing that stopped my Lyme. Doxy for 6 years 
> didn`t. (I
> wouldn`t take the iv crap.)
> Only side effects: it stops mild depressions, eases a allergic 
> reactions and
> asthma. (All in my own personal experience.)
> CS made the way I make it won`t turn you blue as it is so fine 
> it is easily
> excreted via the liver.
> I take 1 swallow per day as a preventive, 3 for active 
> infections (as in
> tummy ache from eating something off.)
> My swallow = 1/3 Cup.
> Dangers? none!
> Have used it successfully for birds (giardia) guinea pigs (eye 
> infections)Pugs (smelly breath) plants (mold) and cut flowers 
> (they last for weeks!)
> PLMK if you have further questions. If you want my whole story, 
> you can
> email me privately and I`ll send my phone number. (My brain 
> damage tells me
> I have no feet and sitting here make them swell and ache. So it 
> is easier to
> chat on the phone. I can call back on my cheap long distance 
> nickel if you
> prefer.)
> I`d like to hear YOUR story, too!
> Be WELL
> Marshalee, mom to 4 grandma to 9, 8 living, and owned by 2 Pug dogs.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM, wrote:
> 
> > Marshallee...
> >
> > Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is 
> in the late
> > disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was 
> only diagnosed 3
> > years ago. Three years of antibiotics, both orally and shots, 
> haven't> helped too much so I'm looking into other options. CS 
> appears to be a
> > recommended option and I've just started using a product 
> called Invive 5000
> > ppm.however, at the recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per 
> day it will
> > become somewhat expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle. So I 
> have some
> > questions, if you don't mind.
> >
> > Are you confident CS was the primary reason for the Lyme being 
> cured?> Could it have been something else?
> >
> > What was the strength and dosage you were taking, and for what 
> duration?>
> > What side effects should I be concerned about? (so far the 
> only thing I've
> > read about is skin discoloration)
> >
> > Who manufactures a good product at a reasonable price?
> >
> > Is is worth making my own CS solution, how difficult is it, 
> and what
> > dangers are involved?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > Mike
> > Jackson, NJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

That 5000 stuff is bound in protein and not any more bio available than
about A 10 ppm home made solution if that much.
Ions of silver which home made mainly consists of
can go where protein molecules can't without getting stuck and causing
Argeria.
Dave



On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We
> are happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20
> ppms.  Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't
> guessing -- we're using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester
> (available from www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit
> into your silver solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate
> ppm level.  Yes -- approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms
> of silver -- there actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this
> comes pretty darn close for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for
> mine.  Plus shipping.  Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory
> that the lower ppm-level CS is as effective, or more effective than the
> higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms are just fine.  Quality control is
> mostly visual -- if you process it correctly, and your tester gives you a
> reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then
> you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver,
> as we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA
>
> On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks
> take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke
> to the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important
> variable. For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a
> lot more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks
> out there making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how
> strong it is, or are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for
> quality control?
> >
> > Mike
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

I used 20 ppm approx. for my battle with Lyme. The colloid master Model 777
www.wishgranted.com makes a gallon at a time with a sun tea jar using two
maple leaves hung in the water with flat straps so they stay straight with
each other,you can decant from the spigot without filtering.
No stirring needed as the polarity is reversed every 55 seconds.
No hassle to that arrangement.
I wouldn't have anything else. Of course I don't get any kicks out of
sitting in the middle of my lawn and watching the grass grow either. That is
about what you get with the battery arrangements.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:37 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:

> Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We
> are happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20
> ppms.  Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't
> guessing -- we're using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester
> (available from www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit
> into your silver solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate
> ppm level.  Yes -- approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms
> of silver -- there actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this
> comes pretty darn close for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for
> mine.  Plus shipping.  Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory
> that the lower ppm-level CS is as effective, or more effective than the
> higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms are just fine.  Quality control is
> mostly visual -- if you process it correctly, and your tester gives you a
> reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then
> you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver,
> as we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA
>
> On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
>
> > I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks
> take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke
> to the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important
> variable. For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a
> lot more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks
> out there making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how
> strong it is, or are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for
> quality control?
> >
> > Mike
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Mike.  I think that most people aim for a ppm-level of around 10.  We are 
happy with anything in the range from as low as 5 ppms to as high as 20 ppms.  
Mine is rarely higher than 14 or 15.  No -- most of us aren't guessing -- we're 
using a tester of some sort.  Mine is a Hanna tester (available from 
www.wishgranted.com).  You simply dip the end of the unit into your silver 
solution and it gives a digital readout of the approximate ppm level.  Yes -- 
approximate.  This tester isn't designed to measure ppms of silver -- there 
actually isn't any unit designed to do that -- but this comes pretty darn close 
for a reasonable price.  I think I paid $55.00 for mine.  Plus shipping.  
Incidentally -- there are proponents of the theory that the lower ppm-level CS 
is as effective, or more effective than the higher ppm-level CS.  IOW -- 5 ppms 
are just fine.  Quality control is mostly visual -- if you process it 
correctly, and your tester gives you
 a reading of between 5 and 20 ppms, and your product is perfectly clear, then 
you have good quality Colloidal Silver.  Or, Electrically Isolated Silver, as 
we like to call it here.  Hope this helps.  MA

On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:

> I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks take 
> CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke to the 
> strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important variable. 
> For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more 
> silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
> making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
> are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for quality control?
> 
> Mike

Re: CS>Testing....

[cking001]

The most common ppm range of home made CS is in the 10 to 20 ppm
range.
It is very effective. It can be used with impunity.
High ppm commercial stuff is silver combined with something else such
as silver nitrate or a mild silver protein.
These need more knowledge to use safely and can cause agryia.

Chuck
NJ State Bird is the Mosquito.

On 8/19/2009 9:55:16 PM, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> Dee.
> I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks take 
> CS in the attempt to treat Lyme. However, no posts have actually spoke to the 
> strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important variable. 
> For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot more 
> silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
> making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
> are you just guessing? If you do, what do you use for quality control?
> 
> Mike
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick
> Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: CS>Testing
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> > I don't
> think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any
> > length of
> > time. Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as,
> > if not
> > more, effective. dee
> >
> > On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> >
> > > Marshallee...
> > >
> > > Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is
> > in
> > > the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though
> > it was
> > > only diagnosed 3 years ago. Three years o
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Re: CS>Testing....

[luv2howl]

Dee.I've now read a number of posts regarding how much and how often folks 
take CS in the attempt to treat Lyme.  However, no posts have actually spoke to 
the strength of the solution, which to me seems to be a very important 
variable.  For instance, one teaspoon of a 5000 ppm solution is a heck of a lot 
more silver than 1 gallon of a 1 ppm solution.  I mean, for you folks out there 
making your own silver solutionsdo you have any idea how strong it is, or 
are you just guessing?  If you do, what do you use for quality control?
 
Mike

- Original Message -
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:20 am
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> I don't think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any 
> length of 
> time. Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as, 
> if not 
> more, effective. dee
> 
> On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> 
> > Marshallee...
> >
> > Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is 
> in 
> > the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though 
> it was 
> > only diagnosed 3 years ago. Three years of antibiotics, both 
> orally 
> > and shots, haven't helped too much so I'm looking into other 
> > options. CS appears to be a recommended option and I've just 
> > started using a product called Invive 5000 ppm.however, at 
> the 
> > recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will become 
> somewhat 
> > expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle. So I have some 
> questions, if 
> > you don't mind.
> >
> 
> 

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

Have her try the treatment every twenty minutes to totally
saturate her tissues and see if that doesn't do the trick.
I'm not in remission --I got rid of it.
I had done a lot of research on it as well and that is why I figured a total
saturation would have to be done(take more in than your body can eliminate).
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Scott Adams  wrote:

>  I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in
> that short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We can
> say its in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one spirochete
> is in a cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the body gets
> stressed.
>
> If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I just
> find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have been doing
> on this disease in the last 3 years.
>
>  Scott Adams
> msad...@msadams.com www.msadams.com
> Moderator of Lyme_rife yahoo list
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Rife/
>
>  --
> *From:* Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Testing
>
> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> Dave:
>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>> make
>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>> appearance of
>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>> >  Dave
>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>> > >
>> > > Marshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > List maintainer: Mike Devour 
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

The tests aren't conclusive but they say it's a clinical diagnosis
that takes in the visible such as the migrans  rash that isn't seen in other
settings.
  The thing is I knew what I had because I had lived with it.
I don't have it now and haven't had any relapses.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Smitty wrote:
>
>> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
>>>
>>>
>>  it
>>
>>
>>> took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?
>>
>>
>>
> Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy.  When I had
> Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable.  False positives AND negatives.
>  They were a total waste of money.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
> --
> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>
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>
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

I chugged two pints of purchased CS and then I was making my own so I took
4ozs every 20 minutes for the three days until I awoke in the middle of the
night feeling just great as if a fever had broken or something like that.
I believe the frequency of the treatments made the difference.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Day Sutton  wrote:

> How much did you take during the 3 days?
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>
>> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
>> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
>> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
>> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
>> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
>> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
>> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
>> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
>> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>>
>>> Dave:
>>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>>
>>> Smitty
>>>
>>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>>> make
>>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>>> appearance of
>>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>>> >  Dave
>>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley <
>>> mdud...@king-cart.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>>> > > > Dave
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>>> > >
>>> > > Marshall
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>>> > >
>>> > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
>>> > >
>>> > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> > >
>>> > > Address Off-Topic messages to:
>>> > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
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>>> > >
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>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Day Sutton
> day.sut...@gmail.com
>

RE: CS>Testing....

[Scott Adams]

I have to say I am very skeptical that Chronic Lyme would be cured in that
short a time. My wife is on 12oz a day for the last 5 months. We can say its
in remission, but we don't believe its cured. If even one spirochete is in a
cyst somewhere or a biofilm it can rebound when the body gets stressed.
 
If you did indeed have Chronic Lyme and got cured that is wonderful. I just
find it hard to believe with all the studying and research I have been doing
on this disease in the last 3 years.
 
Scott Adams
msad...@msadams.com www.msadams.com <http://www.msadams.com/> 
Moderator of Lyme_rife yahoo list
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Lyme_Rife/


  _  

From: Dave Darrin [mailto:davedar...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Testing


After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came back
positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I only
stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before it
even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went through
in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time
to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:


Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty


On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance
of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> >
> > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
> > List maintainer: Mike Devour 
> >
> >
>
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[Marshall Dudley]

Smitty wrote:

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and


 it
  

took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.



Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?

  
Do they even have a test that will tell you with any accuracy.  When I 
had Lyme the tests were over 50% unreliable.  False positives AND 
negatives.  They were a total waste of money.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Testing....

[Day Sutton]

How much did you take during the 3 days?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:

> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and
> it took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
> I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
> He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came
> back positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I
> only stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before
> it even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went
> through in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a
> long time to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> Dave:
>> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
>> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
>> make
>> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
>> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
>> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the
>> appearance of
>> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
>> >  Dave
>> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> > > > Dave
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
>> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>> > >
>> > > Marshall
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
>> > >
>> > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > List maintainer: Mike Devour 
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>


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Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

> After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
> took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.

Did you have a test to determine if you were rid of Lyme ?

Smitty


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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

After 42 years of late Lyme I bought a CS maker from Wish granted.com and it
took me three days to rid myself of Lyme.
I never took any antibiotics as the doctor didn't think I had it.
He saw the rash as it kept repeating every few years and the tests came back
positive but he said that Lyme isn't a problem in this area . As if I only
stayed here. I contacted the disease in Germany in1957. That was before it
even had a name. If you have late Lyme you can imagine what I went through
in that length of time. That was about 8 years ago and it takes a long time
to heal from the damage even after the spirochetes are gone.
Dave

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Smitty  wrote:

> Dave:
> Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?
>
> Smitty
>
> On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> > Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to
> make
> > a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> > denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> > I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance
> of
> > a small green orange would be a Lime.
> >  Dave
> > We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dave Darrin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> > are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

Dave:
Are you gonna make your OWN CS maker ?

Smitty

On 8/19/09, Dave Darrin  wrote:
> Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to make
> a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
> denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
> I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance of
> a small green orange would be a Lime.
>  Dave
> We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dave Darrin wrote:
> >
> > > Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
> >
> > Marshall
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

Limes is a plural as well as a noun. Why didn't you capitalize lime to make
a noun of it. Lime with an apostrophe and an s
denotes possession -- so what belonged to that Lyme?
I think any one would extrapolate a small green fruit with the appearance of
a small green orange would be a Lime.
Dave
We don't have anything useful to talk about today eh.



On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Dave Darrin wrote:
>
>> Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
>> Dave
>>
>>  Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms
> are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Marshall Dudley]

Dave Darrin wrote:

Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
Dave

Hardly. Lyme's is the possessive form of Lyme, as in "Lyme's symptoms 
are".  What are the little green oranges? Are you talking about limes?


Marshall


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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don't think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any length of  
time.  Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as, if not  
more, effective.  dee


On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:


Marshallee...

Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme.  Mine is in  
the late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was  
only diagnosed 3 years ago.  Three years of antibiotics, both orally  
and shots, haven't helped too much so I'm looking into other  
options.  CS appears to be a recommended option and I've just  
started using a product called Invive 5000 ppm.however, at the  
recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will become somewhat  
expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle.  So I have some questions, if  
you don't mind.

Re: CS>Testing....

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

not with the apostrophe there, I wouldn't have thought.  dee

On 18 Aug 2009, at 21:32, Dave Darrin wrote:


Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
Dave

Re: CS>Testing....

[jr orrilia]

Marshalee (nice name), would very much appreciate the intructions to build a CS 
maker.  I bought one but would like to have a back up.  Also, thanks for the 
great testimony. Orrilia





From: Marshalee Hallett 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:21:39 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Testing

Hi!  
Please STOP taking Invive right now!!! It WILL turn you blue! (and it will 
certainly put you in the poor house...) 
I`ll email you the directions for the simple generator, which makes CS for a 
few cents a gallon! I have used it since 1996, and am now as well as can be, 
and still pink as a piggy! (Fat as one too. sigh...Love that chocolate, way too 
much! LOL) 
Yes, CS is the ONLY thing that stopped my Lyme. Doxy for 6 years didn`t. (I 
wouldn`t take the iv crap.)
Only side effects: it stops mild depressions, eases a allergic reactions and 
asthma. (All in my own personal experience.)
CS made the way I make it won`t turn you blue as it is so fine it is easily 
excreted via the liver.
I take 1 swallow per day as a preventive, 3 for active infections (as in tummy 
ache from eating something off.)
My swallow = 1/3 Cup.
Dangers? none!
Have used it successfully for birds (giardia) guinea pigs (eye infections) Pugs 
(smelly breath) plants (mold) and cut flowers (they last for weeks!)
PLMK if you have further questions. If you want my whole story, you can email 
me privately and I`ll send my phone number. (My brain damage tells me I have no 
feet and sitting here make them swell and ache. So it is easier to chat on the 
phone. I can call back on my cheap  long distance nickel if you prefer.)
I`d like to hear YOUR story, too!
Be WELL
Marshalee, mom to 4 grandma to 9, 8 living, and owned by 2 Pug dogs.



On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM,  wrote:

Marshallee...
>
>Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme.  Mine is in the late 
>disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was only diagnosed 3 
>years ago.  Three years of antibiotics, both orally and shots, haven't helped 
>too much so I'm looking into other options.  CS appears to be a recommended 
>option and I've just started using a product called Invive 5000 
>ppm.however, at the recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will 
>become somewhat expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle.  So I have some 
>questions, if you don't mind.
>
>Are you confident CS was the primary reason for the Lyme being cured?  Could 
>it have been something else?
>
>What was the strength and dosage you were taking, and for what duration?
>
>What side effects should I be concerned about? (so far the only thing I've 
>read about is skin discoloration)
>
>Who manufactures a good product at a reasonable price?
>
>Is is worth making my own CS solution, how difficult is it, and what dangers 
>are involved?
>
>thanks!
>
>Mike
>Jackson, NJ
>
>
>
>  


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RE: CS>Testing....

[Dianne France]

Mike

 

I'm not Smitty but felt the same way you are feeling when I first joined the 
group.  I had a need that I wanted addressed and the topic wasn't strictly CS.  
I did find that if you ask a question someone will answer.  It's amazing what I 
have learned from this group about other health topics to my and my husband's 
benefit.  There are also web sites that cover many items you may have questions 
about.  You may want to go to http://www.fugitt.com/cs.htm  Wayne Fugitt was 
the sponcer of the site and listed so much information, kept a lot of archives 
on his personal computers.  We recently lost Wayne but so far the site is still 
working.  I think you will find many answers there.

 

Hang in there and ask away.

 

Dianne
 


Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:23:30 +
From: luv2h...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


Smitty
 
Thanks, but really looking for info regarding CS.  Does this group discuss 
colloidal silver, or is it all about DMSO?  Perhaps I joined the wrong group.
 
Mike
Jackson, NJ

- Original Message -
From: Smitty 
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> You came thru loud & clear.
> You should also join the yahoo group DMSO.
> They have a lot of info regarding Lyme's.
> 
> Smitty
> 
> On 8/18/09, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> > Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets 
> through. I have
> > Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal 
> silver in the
> > treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared 
> silver solutions.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Testing....

[luv2howl]

Smitty
 
Thanks, but really looking for info regarding CS.  Does this group discuss 
colloidal silver, or is it all about DMSO?  Perhaps I joined the wrong group.
 
Mike
Jackson, NJ

- Original Message -
From: Smitty 
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> You came thru loud & clear.
> You should also join the yahoo group DMSO.
> They have a lot of info regarding Lyme's.
> 
> Smitty
> 
> On 8/18/09, luv2h...@optonline.net wrote:
> > Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets 
> through. I have
> > Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal 
> silver in the
> > treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared 
> silver solutions.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi! Please STOP taking Invive right now!!! It WILL turn you blue! (and it
will certainly put you in the poor house...)I`ll email you the directions
for the simple generator, which makes CS for a few cents a gallon! I have
used it since 1996, and am now as well as can be, and still pink as a
piggy! (Fat as one too. sigh...Love that chocolate, way too much! LOL)
Yes, CS is the ONLY thing that stopped my Lyme. Doxy for 6 years didn`t. (I
wouldn`t take the iv crap.)
Only side effects: it stops mild depressions, eases a allergic reactions and
asthma. (All in my own personal experience.)
CS made the way I make it won`t turn you blue as it is so fine it is easily
excreted via the liver.
I take 1 swallow per day as a preventive, 3 for active infections (as in
tummy ache from eating something off.)
My swallow = 1/3 Cup.
Dangers? none!
Have used it successfully for birds (giardia) guinea pigs (eye infections)
Pugs (smelly breath) plants (mold) and cut flowers (they last for weeks!)
PLMK if you have further questions. If you want my whole story, you can
email me privately and I`ll send my phone number. (My brain damage tells me
I have no feet and sitting here make them swell and ache. So it is easier to
chat on the phone. I can call back on my cheap  long distance nickel if you
prefer.)
I`d like to hear YOUR story, too!
Be WELL
Marshalee, mom to 4 grandma to 9, 8 living, and owned by 2 Pug dogs.


On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM,  wrote:

> Marshallee...
>
> Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme.  Mine is in the late
> disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was only diagnosed 3
> years ago.  Three years of antibiotics, both orally and shots, haven't
> helped too much so I'm looking into other options.  CS appears to be a
> recommended option and I've just started using a product called Invive 5000
> ppm.however, at the recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will
> become somewhat expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle.  So I have some
> questions, if you don't mind.
>
> Are you confident CS was the primary reason for the Lyme being cured?
> Could it have been something else?
>
> What was the strength and dosage you were taking, and for what duration?
>
> What side effects should I be concerned about? (so far the only thing I've
> read about is skin discoloration)
>
> Who manufactures a good product at a reasonable price?
>
> Is is worth making my own CS solution, how difficult is it, and what
> dangers are involved?
>
> thanks!
>
> Mike
> Jackson, NJ
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[sol]

Marshalee,
 I'd like to have your dosing info that worked for Lyme for you. What 
is the ppm of your CS, and how often/how much did you take and for how long?

thanks,
sol

Marshalee Hallett wrote:
CS cured me of 6 years` worth of Stage 3 disseminated Lyme, which 
nearly killed me. 
Destroyed my gall bladder, gave me brain damage. I`m disabled, but 
pretty much OK now.





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Re: CS>Testing....

[luv2howl]

Marshallee...
 
Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme.  Mine is in the late 
disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was only diagnosed 3 
years ago.  Three years of antibiotics, both orally and shots, haven't helped 
too much so I'm looking into other options.  CS appears to be a recommended 
option and I've just started using a product called Invive 5000 
ppm.however, at the recommended dosage of 4 teaspoons per day it will 
become somewhat expensive at $100 per 118 ml bottle.  So I have some questions, 
if you don't mind.
 
Are you confident CS was the primary reason for the Lyme being cured?  Could it 
have been something else?
 
What was the strength and dosage you were taking, and for what duration?
 
What side effects should I be concerned about? (so far the only thing I've read 
about is skin discoloration)
 
Who manufactures a good product at a reasonable price?
 
Is is worth making my own CS solution, how difficult is it, and what dangers 
are involved?
 
thanks!
 
Mike
Jackson, NJ
 
 
 
  

- Original Message -
From: Marshalee Hallett 
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: CS>Testing
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

> Hi, Mike, CS cured me of 6 years` worth of Stage 3 disseminated 
> Lyme, which
> nearly killed me.
> Destroyed my gall bladder, gave me brain damage. I`m disabled, 
> but pretty
> much OK now.Great stuff! Direct answer to a prayer for help!!
> I make my own for a few cents a gallon. Email me if you want the 
> directionsI use and my source of silver wire.
> Marshalee
> 
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM, wrote:
> 
> > Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets 
> through. I have
> > Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal 
> silver in the
> > treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared 
> silver solutions.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> 

Re: CS>Testing....

[Marshalee Hallett]

Hi, Mike, CS cured me of 6 years` worth of Stage 3 disseminated Lyme, which
nearly killed me.
Destroyed my gall bladder, gave me brain damage. I`m disabled, but pretty
much OK now.Great stuff! Direct answer to a prayer for help!!
I make my own for a few cents a gallon. Email me if you want the directions
I use and my source of silver wire.
Marshalee

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM,  wrote:

> Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets through.  I have
> Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal silver in the
> treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared silver solutions.
>
> Mike
>
>

Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

> Scuse me Smitty--Didn't have anything better to do today.
> Dave

Quite alright. . . I'm retired too. . . .

“The problem with socialism is that eventually
you run out of other people’s money.”

—Margaret Thatcher

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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

Scuse me Smitty--Didn't have anything better to do today.
Dave

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Smitty  wrote:

> > Most certainly! we just saw it "in print" in your message.
> > Doesn't make it correct.
> > If you need more convincing ask Marsha.
> > Dave
>
> Lyme it is. . . . .
>
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

> Most certainly! we just saw it "in print" in your message.
> Doesn't make it correct.
> If you need more convincing ask Marsha.
> Dave

Lyme it is. . . . .

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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

Most certainly! we just saw it "in print" in your message.
Doesn't make it correct.
If you need more convincing ask Marsha.
Dave

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Dave Darrin  wrote:

> Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> Dave
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Smitty  wrote:
>
>> You came thru loud & clear.
>> You should also join the yahoo group DMSO.
>> They have a lot of info regarding Lyme's.
>>
>> Smitty
>>
>> On 8/18/09, luv2h...@optonline.net  wrote:
>> > Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets through.  I
>> have
>> > Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal silver in the
>> > treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared silver
>> solutions.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

> Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
> Dave

Hardly. . . . those are limes. . . . .
I've seen the disease in print with sss.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Testing....

[Dave Darrin]

Lyme's are small green oranges. Lyme is the disease.
Dave

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Smitty  wrote:

> You came thru loud & clear.
> You should also join the yahoo group DMSO.
> They have a lot of info regarding Lyme's.
>
> Smitty
>
> On 8/18/09, luv2h...@optonline.net  wrote:
> > Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets through.  I have
> > Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal silver in the
> > treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared silver
> solutions.
> >
> > Mike
> >
>
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Re: CS>Testing....

[Smitty]

You came thru loud & clear.
You should also join the yahoo group DMSO.
They have a lot of info regarding Lyme's.

Smitty

On 8/18/09, luv2h...@optonline.net  wrote:
> Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets through.  I have
> Lyme disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal silver in the
> treatment of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared silver solutions.
>
> Mike
>


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CS>Testing....

[luv2howl]

Hi, I'm new here and testing to see if this message gets through.  I have Lyme 
disease and wanted to discuss the merits of colloidal silver in the treatment 
of Lyme as well as sources of properly prepared silver solutions.
 
Mike
 

Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS - speaking of gel

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Good site Kathryn.  At least they are reasonable.  dee

On 30 Jul 2009, at 19:47, Clayton Family wrote:

Speaking of gel, there is a local company that is making and selling  
a product made with aloe vera gel and silver. I have heard that the  
silver process is similar to the sovereign silver, ie ionic. He has  
has good reports from it, so it says on his site, which is ionic  
silver works dot com, all in one word, of course.


Kathryn

On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS - speaking of gel

[Clayton Family]

Speaking of gel, there is a local company that is making and selling a 
product made with aloe vera gel and silver. I have heard that the 
silver process is similar to the sovereign silver, ie ionic. He has has 
good reports from it, so it says on his site, which is ionic silver 
works dot com, all in one word, of course.


Kathryn

On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:

 Didn't know if it did work, for that very reason, but it does, so 
there must be something else to it.

Could it be.

 Liquid interface as the highly hygroscopic "pulling" attributes draw 
out body fluids to replace that which is evaporating from the gels 
*exposed to drier air* surface.

Infections and wounds are generally wet.

Ode


At 01:59 PM 7/29/2009 -1000, you wrote:

How does CS gel work if it is in a gel like medium?

shar



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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Ode Coyote]

  Didn't know if it did work, for that very reason, but it does, so there 
must be something else to it.

Could it be.

 Liquid interface as the highly hygroscopic "pulling" attributes draw out 
body fluids to replace that which is evaporating from the gels *exposed to 
drier air* surface.

Infections and wounds are generally wet.

Ode


At 01:59 PM 7/29/2009 -1000, you wrote:

How does CS gel work if it is in a gel like medium?

shar




On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ode Coyote 
<odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:


 The body isn't agar.
 Have him test it in a liquid medium.
Or actually flood the sample with dilute CS that would mimic being washed 
with body fluids.


What he demonstrated is why CS doesn't kill the flora in the gut.

Ode



At 09:09 AM 7/27/2009 -0500, you wrote:

I gave some Colloidal Silver solution to an old friend of mine that I
met at a reunion who happens to be a microbiologist.  I happened to
have some CS with me and he was intrigued with it and said he was
willing to do some tests of it's effectivity.  I have included his
response below.  If anyone has some suggestions on how to test it
properly, please let me know.  Also, any relevant reference as well.

He says:

"I tested the colloidal silver solution using the methodology that we
use in the lab to test standardized antibiotics.  I created a lawn of
bacteria of known density on agar plates, and then placed a drop of
the silver solution in the center of the plate, which then diffused
through the bacteria and into the agar medium.   None of the 9 most
commonly encountered organisms showed any zone of inhibition.  The
organisms I used in this experiment were E. coli, E. coli (ESBL),
Staph. aureus and MRSA, Enterococcus, Pseudomonas aeruginosa,
Moraxella cattarrhalis, Group A beta Strep, and Streptococcus
pneumoniae.

 "I have to google the subject as I am surprised that there was no
inhibitory effect what so ever at the dosage level direct from the
bottle you provided.  I am wondering whether in vivo there is another
mechanism utilized that is not demonstrated by my plate technique.
I'm interested in knowing more, so if you have some references please
pass them on."


Thanks,

Dan


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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Sharlene Miyamura]

How does CS gel work if it is in a gel like medium?

shar




On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>  The body isn't agar.
>  Have him test it in a liquid medium.
> Or actually flood the sample with dilute CS that would mimic being washed
> with body fluids.
>
> What he demonstrated is why CS doesn't kill the flora in the gut.
>
> Ode
>
>
>
> At 09:09 AM 7/27/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>  I gave some Colloidal Silver solution to an old friend of mine that I
>> met at a reunion who happens to be a microbiologist.  I happened to
>> have some CS with me and he was intrigued with it and said he was
>> willing to do some tests of it's effectivity.  I have included his
>> response below.  If anyone has some suggestions on how to test it
>> properly, please let me know.  Also, any relevant reference as well.
>>
>> He says:
>>
>> "I tested the colloidal silver solution using the methodology that we
>> use in the lab to test standardized antibiotics.  I created a lawn of
>> bacteria of known density on agar plates, and then placed a drop of
>> the silver solution in the center of the plate, which then diffused
>> through the bacteria and into the agar medium.   None of the 9 most
>> commonly encountered organisms showed any zone of inhibition.  The
>> organisms I used in this experiment were E. coli, E. coli (ESBL),
>> Staph. aureus and MRSA, Enterococcus, Pseudomonas aeruginosa,
>> Moraxella cattarrhalis, Group A beta Strep, and Streptococcus
>> pneumoniae.
>>
>>  "I have to google the subject as I am surprised that there was no
>> inhibitory effect what so ever at the dosage level direct from the
>> bottle you provided.  I am wondering whether in vivo there is another
>> mechanism utilized that is not demonstrated by my plate technique.
>> I'm interested in knowing more, so if you have some references please
>> pass them on."
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Dan Nave]

I am using g-mail for the silver list because of the problem of
getting the silver_list on comcast.net.

The g-mail automatically hides all the quoted text, and only showed
Marshall's reply, so I didn't even know that it might appear that I
was replying to dee.  Also, g-mail insists on organizing the posts in
topical format, so it is also difficult to get a sense of how old some
of the posts really are.

At first read, Marshall's post seemed a bit exasperated or defensive
that we would even attempt to test something that he had done ages
ago... but it is easy to misinterpret this sort of thing.  I know that
he is pretty steady emotionally so I didn't feel it would be a problem
if I tweaked his nose once or twice...  ;-))

Dan

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:40 AM, M. G. Devour wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>> This was connected to Marshall's post, not yours.
>>
>> Marshall has the outdated notion that you have to reply at the end of a
>> post rather than at the beginning, so when he quoted your post, it may
>> have looked like your post.  His reply is at the bottom.
>>
>> Sorry if it seemed to be directed at you.
>
> And it's an excellent demonstration of why you should edit your post
> before sending so that only quoted text relevant to your point is
> included! 
>
> Oh, and I didn't choose to read Marshall's reply as seeming to be smug
> or critical, though I can see that his phrasing might not have been
> sufficiently nuanced to avoid that impression if you look for it...
>
> Carry on!
>
> Mike D.
> dat list owner guy
>
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick
>> wrote: > This is not me being uppity as you put it, but asking a genuine
>> question!
>
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[M. G. Devour]

Dan wrote:
> This was connected to Marshall's post, not yours.
> 
> Marshall has the outdated notion that you have to reply at the end of a
> post rather than at the beginning, so when he quoted your post, it may
> have looked like your post.  His reply is at the bottom.
> 
> Sorry if it seemed to be directed at you.

And it's an excellent demonstration of why you should edit your post 
before sending so that only quoted text relevant to your point is 
included! 

Oh, and I didn't choose to read Marshall's reply as seeming to be smug 
or critical, though I can see that his phrasing might not have been 
sufficiently nuanced to avoid that impression if you look for it...

Carry on!

Mike D.
dat list owner guy

> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick
> wrote: > This is not me being uppity as you put it, but asking a genuine
> question! 

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Ode Coyote]

  Any liquid has Brownian motion going on all the time, if not also 
thermal  convection that occurs when temperatures change...both, kinetic 
energies.


ode


OdeAt 04:02 PM 7/28/2009 -0500, you wrote:


Static as in still, unmoving, opposite; kinetic as in motion, movement

Annie


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Different from what?
What do you mean by static?
Do you not cook?

A broth is a kind of soup or soup base. It's a liquid, therefore
anything placed in it, such as CS, disperses through out.

Agar is jellylike. CS would stay near where it was placed, not
disperse, therefore not be effective.

Chuck
Careful. We don't want to learn from this. - Calvin & Hobbes

On 7/28/2009 7:23:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:


why would this be different please?  I would have thought both liquids
would be static.  dee
On 27 Jul 2009, at 20:39, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Boil, simmer chicken bones, carcass...
The liquid is a broth.

Chuck
Ham and Eggs. Just a day's work for a chicken but a lifetime
commitment for a pig.



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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[Annie B Smythe]

Static as in still, unmoving, opposite; kinetic as in motion, movement

Annie


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Different from what?
What do you mean by static?
Do you not cook?

A broth is a kind of soup or soup base. It's a liquid, therefore
anything placed in it, such as CS, disperses through out.

Agar is jellylike. CS would stay near where it was placed, not
disperse, therefore not be effective.

Chuck
Careful. We don't want to learn from this. - Calvin & Hobbes

On 7/28/2009 7:23:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
  

why would this be different please?  I would have thought both liquids
would be static.  dee
On 27 Jul 2009, at 20:39, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Boil, simmer chicken bones, carcass...
The liquid is a broth.

Chuck
Ham and Eggs. Just a day's work for a chicken but a lifetime
commitment for a pig.



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Re: CS>Testing Effectivity of CS in the Labratory

[cking001]

Different from what?
What do you mean by static?
Do you not cook?

A broth is a kind of soup or soup base. It's a liquid, therefore
anything placed in it, such as CS, disperses through out.

Agar is jellylike. CS would stay near where it was placed, not
disperse, therefore not be effective.

Chuck
Careful. We don't want to learn from this. - Calvin & Hobbes

On 7/28/2009 7:23:48 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> why would this be different please?  I would have thought both liquids
> would be static.  dee
> On 27 Jul 2009, at 20:39, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
> 
> Boil, simmer chicken bones, carcass...
> The liquid is a broth.
> 
> Chuck
> Ham and Eggs. Just a day's work for a chicken but a lifetime
> commitment for a pig.
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