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Re: CSOn a personal note............EDTA

2010-11-03 Thread Tad Winiecki


Here is where I bought some, scroll down to EDTA-

http://www.easycart.net/BeyondACenturyInc./Special_Products_A-G.html#7605

Nancy

Lisa wrote:

The only EDTA is what I remember being in some kind of mayonnaise (haha).
Is this an acronym for something and where can I purchase some?

Lisa


  

  



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-10 Thread Lynn, Stan

From: Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, October 6, 2010 2:48:51 PM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Hi Sandy,

This is from wiki:

Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine 
(I_2 ) and 10 g potassium iodide 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide 
(KI) mixed with 85 ml distilled water 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29, to make a brown solution 
with a total iodine content of 150 mg/mL. Potassium iodide renders the 
elementary iodine soluble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soluble in water 
through the formation of the triiodide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triiodide 
(I_3 ^- ) ion. It is not to be confused with tincture of iodine 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_of_iodine solutions, which consist of 
elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and alcohol. Lugol's 
solution contains no alcohol.

Iodoral is 5mg iodine and 7.5mg potassium iodide.

I have never had Lugol's with alcohol in it.

FWIW,

Craig

Sandy wrote:
 Hi Tel,

 You can get everything you need to make iodine on Ebay.

 http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide 
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+iodide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
3 
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+iodide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

 Here is a recipe for making 7% iodine from a poster on another forum.

 1. I mixed 8.2 grams of potassium iodide with 80 ml of distilled water
 2. I mixed 12.7 grams of iodine crystals with 80.8 ml of 95% ethanol (grain 
alcohol)
 3. I mixed both solutions together using a wooden spoon in a glass container 
(with a glass lid and rubber seal)

 Sandy.

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-08 Thread needling around

This is what I did with Iosol.  My patch disappeared in 15 minutes so I started 
using it.  Since I had all the s/s of being hypothyroid but not the TSH I 
painted it right over my thyroid.  I never got to a point where it stayed on 
the skin more than an hour or two.  After a few months and a noticeable nodule 
my doc wanted an ultrasound and it showed I had several nodules.  Two years or 
so later I was dx with Hashimoto's thyroiditis.  Just recently I was given an 
article indicating that using iodine can lead to Hashimoto's.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:03 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note


  In a message dated 10/7/2010 6:23:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:
What is considered excess?
  A test I used to do was to paint on my skin iodine about the size of a 
quarter at bedtime. Then see how long it takes for my body to consume the 
iodine through my skin. If it was gone overnight I could increase the amount. 
If it was visible in the morning decrease the amount. I wonder if taking iodine 
through the skin would bypass the thyroid problem? Sort of like taking EIS  
DMSO through the skin bypassing digestion.
  Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-07 Thread sol


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

I understood that thyroid problems could be caused by 'lack' of iodine.  dee

  

Excess iodine also causes thyroid problems.
sol


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RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-07 Thread Lisa

What is considered excess?

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 I understood that thyroid problems could be caused by 'lack' of iodine.
dee

   
Excess iodine also causes thyroid problems.
sol


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-07 Thread sol


Depends on who you talk to.
sol

Lisa wrote:

What is considered excess?

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 1:01 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  

I understood that thyroid problems could be caused by 'lack' of iodine.


dee
  
  


Excess iodine also causes thyroid problems.
sol


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-07 Thread Brickeyk

 
In a message dated 10/7/2010 6:23:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes:

What is  considered excess?


A test I used to do was to paint on my skin iodine about the size of a  
quarter at bedtime. Then see how long it takes for my body to consume the 
iodine  through my skin. If it was gone overnight I could increase the amount. 
If 
it was  visible in the morning decrease the amount. I wonder if taking 
iodine through  the skin would bypass the thyroid problem? Sort of like taking 
EIS  DMSO  through the skin bypassing digestion.
Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Sandy

Hi Tel,

You can get everything you need to make iodine on Ebay.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+iodide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Here is a recipe for making 7% iodine from a poster on another forum.

1. I mixed 8.2 grams of potassium iodide with 80 ml of distilled water
2. I mixed 12.7 grams of iodine crystals with 80.8 ml of 95% ethanol (grain 
alcohol)

3. I mixed both solutions together using a wooden spoon in a glass container 
(with a glass lid and rubber seal)

Sandy.

--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:

The problem is you can not buy any of these ingredients except distilled water 
anymore.  Some un-professional's  have been letting drug dealers   drug makers 
buy it and re-sell it in a meth form,,, now you can only sell Lugol's by the
 OZ. or smaller. I am a dealer in Herbal supplies. I know the 
law.http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
Tel TofflemireArizona

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

You mean the lack of it has?  dee

On 5 Oct 2010, at 22:42, needling around wrote:

 Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.
 PT
 - Original Message -
 From: brick...@aol.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

 In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
 papad...@gmail.com writes:
 Replace his table salt with sea salt.
 (without him knowing)
 That way he'll get some minerals to
 Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt. 
 You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine loss.
 Brickey

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread needling around

No.  Taking it.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

You mean the lack of it has?  dee

On 5 Oct 2010, at 22:42, needling around wrote:

Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.
PT
- Original Message -
From: brick...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
papad...@gmail.com writes:

Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals to
Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table 
salt. You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine 
loss.

Brickey

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RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Lisa

Thank you Sandy! This is exactly what I did (but I've got iodine beads
rather than crystals) and I don't have any grain alcohol in mine. I used
strictly distilled water and I currently take 15 drops a day (I've got
Grave's) and am trying to my thyroid numbers back in line. How much do you
take a day?

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Sandy [mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 6:26 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

 


Hi Tel,

You can get everything you need to make iodine on Ebay.

 http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide

 
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+i
odide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+io
dide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Here is a recipe for making 7% iodine from a poster on another forum.

1. I mixed 8.2 grams of potassium iodide with 80 ml of distilled water
2. I mixed 12.7 grams of iodine crystals with 80.8 ml of 95% ethanol (grain
alcohol)
3. I mixed both solutions together using a wooden spoon in a glass container
(with a glass lid and rubber seal)

Sandy.

--- On Tue, 10/5/10, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote:

 

The problem is you can not buy any of these ingredients except distilled
water anymore.  Some un-professional's  have been letting drug dealers 
drug makers buy it and re-sell it in a meth form,,, now you can only sell
Lugol's by the OZ. or smaller. I am a dealer in Herbal supplies. I know the
law.

http://www.quailwoodherbal.com

Tel Tofflemire

Arizona

RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Sandy

Hi Lisa,

You're very welcome. I have not made the iodine yet because at this point it 
causes me headache and heart palpitations [I tried taking Iodoral and 
Magnascent]. I figure my thyroid and adrenals are in very poor shape and has a 
hard time dealing with the iodine. At this time I'm taking natural Seagreens [1 
capsule per day] in hope of getting my system used to the iodine at which point 
I will make my own.

I think it's great that you're making your own iodine and I believe is the best 
way to go. I fully intend to make my own in time.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
Subject: RE: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 8:55 AM




 
 

 

 

 







Thank you
 Sandy ! This is exactly what I did (but I’ve
got iodine beads rather than crystals) and I don’t have any grain alcohol
in mine. I used strictly distilled water and I currently take 15 drops a day 
(I’ve
got Grave’s) and am trying to my thyroid numbers back in line. How much
do you take a day? 

Lisa

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread needling around

Hi Sandy,
I cannot comment on the headaches but the heart palpitations could be because 
you don't need the extra iodine and it pushes your thyroid too much which then 
can cause the heart palpitations.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandy 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 11:06 AM
  Subject: RE: CSOn a personal note

Hi Lisa,

You're very welcome. I have not made the iodine yet because at this 
point it causes me headache and heart palpitations [I tried taking Iodoral and 
Magnascent]. I figure my thyroid and adrenals are in very poor shape and has a 
hard time dealing with the iodine. At this time I'm taking natural Seagreens [1 
capsule per day] in hope of getting my system used to the iodine at which point 
I will make my own.

I think it's great that you're making your own iodine and I believe is 
the best way to go. I fully intend to make my own in time.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:

  From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
  Subject: RE: CSOn a personal note
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 8:55 AM

  Thank you Sandy ! This is exactly what I did (but I’ve got iodine 
beads rather than crystals) and I don’t have any grain alcohol in mine. I used 
strictly distilled water and I currently take 15 drops a day (I’ve got Grave’s) 
and am trying to my thyroid numbers back in line. How much do you take a day?

  Lisa

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Sandy

Thanks PT. If I have too much iodine I do not know where I could be getting it 
since I do not eat any sea food nor do I use iodized salt. I will certainly 
take your suggestion into consideration though because the HP really worried 
me. The Seagreens do not cause any problems so may just stick with those.

I still plan to make my own iodine because I feel it's good to have on hand.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:10 AM



 
Hi Sandy,
I cannot comment on the headaches but the heart 
palpitations could be because you don't need the extra iodine and it pushes 
your 
thyroid too much which then can cause the heart palpitations.
PT

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

I understood that thyroid problems could be caused by 'lack' of iodine.  dee

On 6 Oct 2010, at 13:24, needling around wrote:

 No.  Taking it.
 PT
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:08 AM
 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 
 
 You mean the lack of it has?  dee
 


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread needling around


Not always.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note


I understood that thyroid problems could be caused by 'lack' of iodine. 
dee


On 6 Oct 2010, at 13:24, needling around wrote:


No.  Taking it.
PT


- Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
d...@deetroy.org

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note


You mean the lack of it has?  dee




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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Craig Chamberlin

Hi Sandy,

This is from wiki:

Lugol's solution consists of 5 g iodine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodine (I_2 ) and 10 g potassium iodide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide (KI) mixed with 85 ml
distilled water http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29, to
make a brown solution with a total iodine content of 150 mg/mL.
Potassium iodide renders the elementary iodine soluble
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soluble in water through the formation of
the triiodide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triiodide (I_3 ^- ) ion. It
is not to be confused with tincture of iodine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_of_iodine solutions, which
consist of elemental iodine, and iodide salts dissolved in water and
alcohol. Lugol's solution contains no alcohol.

Iodoral is 5mg iodine and 7.5mg potassium iodide.

I have never had Lugol's with alcohol in it.

FWIW,

Craig

Sandy wrote:

Hi Tel,

You can get everything you need to make iodine on Ebay.

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_kw=potassium_kw=iodide

http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+iodide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=iodine+crystals_sacat=0_odkw=potassium+iodide_osacat=0_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313

Here is a recipe for making 7% iodine from a poster on another forum.

1. I mixed 8.2 grams of potassium iodide with 80 ml of distilled water
2. I mixed 12.7 grams of iodine crystals with 80.8 ml of 95% ethanol
(grain alcohol)
3. I mixed both solutions together using a wooden spoon in a glass
container (with a glass lid and rubber seal)

Sandy.

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Sandy

Thanks Craig,

This is good to know and Lisa also said she does not make hers with alcohol.

Sandy

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:

 
 Iodoral is 5mg iodine and 7.5mg potassium iodide.
 
 I have never had Lugol's with alcohol in it.
 
 FWIW,
 
 Craig
 

 
 
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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Tony Moody

Hi Sandy,

You would have to verify this but I was told by a conservationist/ big game 
ranger type that
deep well water has iodine in it and this can be a problem for game.

OK,
Tony

On 6 Oct 2010 at 8:23, Sandy wrote about :
Subject : Re: CSOn a personal note..


 Thanks PT. If I have too much iodine I do not know where I could be
 getting it since I do not eat
 any sea food nor do I use iodized salt. I will certainly take your
 suggestion into consideration
 though because the HP really worried me. The Seagreens do not cause any
 problems so may just
 stick with those.

 I still plan to make my own iodine because I feel it's good to have on
 hand.

 Sandy

 --- On Wed, 10/6/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:10 AM

  Hi Sandy,
 I cannot comment on the headaches but the heart
 palpitations could be because you don't need the extra
 iodine and it pushes your thyroid too much which then can
 cause the heart palpitations.
 PT

















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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-06 Thread Sandy

Wow, Tony, I'm really learning some interesting stuff about iodine today. We do 
not have a water well but do live in the country so will check with our water 
company and see what they have to say.

Thanks!

Sandy

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
 Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 2:59 PM
 Hi Sandy,
 
 You would have to verify this but I was told by a
 conservationist/ big game ranger type that
 deep well water has iodine in it and this can be a problem
 for game.
 
 OK,
 Tony
 
 On 6 Oct 2010 at 8:23, Sandy wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSOn a personal note..
 
 
  Thanks PT. If I have too much iodine I do not know
 where I could be
  getting it since I do not eat
  any sea food nor do I use iodized salt. I will
 certainly take your
  suggestion into consideration
  though because the HP really worried me. The Seagreens
 do not cause any
  problems so may just
  stick with those.
 
  I still plan to make my own iodine because I feel it's
 good to have on
  hand.
 
  Sandy
 
  --- On Wed, 10/6/10, needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
  From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 10:10 AM
 
   Hi Sandy,
  I cannot comment on the headaches but the heart
  palpitations could be because you don't need the
 extra
  iodine and it pushes your thyroid too much which then
 can
  cause the heart palpitations.
  PT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Ode Coyote




  MY dad started using sea salt and the more he used, the more his BP went 
down.
 Apparently sodium retention and elimination is keyed to the availability 
of other minerals.


Ode



At 06:50 PM 10/4/2010 -1000, you wrote:


... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium ...


Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals too .

Smitty



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Heidrun Beer

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:08:14 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote in
5.2.0.9.2.20101005060517.019db...@pop.windstream.net:

   MY dad started using sea salt and the more he used, the more his BP went 
down.
  Apparently sodium retention and elimination is keyed to the availability 
of other minerals.


Yes, potassium in this case.

BTW today I was at the doctor's and had him take out
500 ml of blood. After that my blood pressure was 
at 130/82, in the ideal range. It had gone up quite
badly in the last very stressful months.

Tried last week to donate blood, after I had read how
well that works against high BP, but they wouldn't
take me because of a lyme infection earlier this years.

Another thing that was successful for me was 10 bottles
of EDTA last year. After that I had to quit the BP 
pills, because I would get too dizzy. 

I would have gone back for more, but can't afford it 
at the moment. If your Dad can afford EDTA, this would
be ideal, in my opinion. Not only brings BP down, but 
also opens the blood vessels. All circulation related
problems go away - bad hearing, bad vision, ED, 
smoker's legs etc. etc. Saves a heart bypass operation.




Heidrun Beer

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RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Lisa

The only EDTA is what I remember being in some kind of mayonnaise (haha).
Is this an acronym for something and where can I purchase some?

Lisa

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From: Heidrun Beer [mailto:hb...@sgmt.at] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 7:13 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

On Tue, 05 Oct 2010 06:08:14 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote in
5.2.0.9.2.20101005060517.019db...@pop.windstream.net:

   MY dad started using sea salt and the more he used, the more his BP went

down.
  Apparently sodium retention and elimination is keyed to the availability 
of other minerals.

Yes, potassium in this case.

BTW today I was at the doctor's and had him take out
500 ml of blood. After that my blood pressure was 
at 130/82, in the ideal range. It had gone up quite
badly in the last very stressful months.

Tried last week to donate blood, after I had read how
well that works against high BP, but they wouldn't
take me because of a lyme infection earlier this years.

Another thing that was successful for me was 10 bottles
of EDTA last year. After that I had to quit the BP 
pills, because I would get too dizzy. 

I would have gone back for more, but can't afford it 
at the moment. If your Dad can afford EDTA, this would
be ideal, in my opinion. Not only brings BP down, but 
also opens the blood vessels. All circulation related
problems go away - bad hearing, bad vision, ED, 
smoker's legs etc. etc. Saves a heart bypass operation.

Heidrun Beer

www.life-lessons.eu
www.sgmt.at
www.RecastReality.org

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Marshall Dudley

 If one is in a hot environment sodium is also needed, significantly.  
Not only to replace the sodium lost through sweating, but according to 
the book Biological transmutations there is pretty good proof that the 
body will convert sodium to potassium, an endothermic NUCLEAR reaction, 
to keep the body's temperature DOWN to 98.8.  Of course mainstream 
science says this is impossible, but the evidence is really quite good.


Marshall

On 10/4/2010 8:37 PM, sol wrote:
Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of 
various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake 
without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most 
complete mineral balance analysis you can.
Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely 
against current conventional medical opinion.

sol



On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium 
 The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... 
but he has no intention of doing it   He could care less about 
trying to do HIS PART to protect his health.  If your husband shares 
your desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge 
blessing on his behalf !!!

jan



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Tel Tofflemire

Makes sense to me Marshall, I live in Arizona, and I use Himalayan  Pink Sea 
Salt, I think it helps me a lot.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 8:36:56 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

If one is in a hot environment sodium is also needed, significantly.  Not only 
to replace the sodium lost through sweating, but according to the book 
Biological transmutations there is pretty good proof that the body will 
convert sodium to potassium, an endothermic NUCLEAR reaction, to keep the 
body's 
temperature DOWN to 98.8.  Of course mainstream science says this is 
impossible, 
but the evidence is really quite good.

Marshall

On 10/4/2010 8:37 PM, sol wrote:
 Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of various 
imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake without 
investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most complete mineral 
balance analysis you can.
 Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely against 
current conventional medical opinion.
 sol
 
 
 On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
 ... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium  The 
Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but he has no 
intention of doing it   He could care less about trying to do HIS PART 
to 
protect his health.  If your husband shares your desire for good health, 
then 
that will certainly be a huge blessing on his behalf !!!
 jan
 
 
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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Brickeyk

 
In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
papad...@gmail.com writes:

Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals to



Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt. 
 You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine loss.
Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread needling around

Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.
PT
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  From: brick...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

  In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
papad...@gmail.com writes:
Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals to
  Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt. 
You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine loss.
  Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Craig Chamberlin





Hi PT,

Do you have a source for that?

Thanks,

Craig

needling around wrote:

  
  
  
  Yes, but taking iodine has been
linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.
  PT
  
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To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:
Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject:
Re: CSOn a personal note


 


In
a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, papad...@gmail.com
writes:
 

  Replace his table salt with sea salt.
  (without him knowing)
  That way he'll get some minerals to
  

 
 
Good
idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt.
You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine
loss.
 
Brickey
  





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RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Lisa

Lugol's iodine is fairly common - google it, make it yourself.

  _  

From: Craig Chamberlin [mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Hi PT,

Do you have a source for that?

Thanks,

Craig

needling around wrote: 

Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.

PT

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From: brick...@aol.com 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM

Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
papad...@gmail.com writes:

Replace his table salt with sea salt.

(without him knowing)

That way he'll get some minerals to

Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt.
You might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine loss.

Brickey

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Tel Tofflemire

I would like to see some Medical Doc. on that myself , I have been taking 
(Lugol's Iodine 5%) all my life, I am over 70.  I doubt if you can make Lugol's 
anymore anyway? It takes Potassium Iodine Crystals + Iodide Crystals to mix 
with 
distilled water, to the exact amounts, if is not pre mixed, like Lugol's.

The problem is you can not buy any of these ingredients except distilled water 
anymore.  Some un-professional's  have been letting drug dealers   drug makers 
buy it and re-sell it in a meth form,,, now you can only sell Lugol's by the 
OZ. or smaller. I am a dealer in Herbal supplies. I know the law.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com

Tel Tofflemire
Arizona




From: Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 4:00:02 PM
Subject: RE: CSOn a personal note

 
Lugol’s iodine is fairly common – google it, make it yourself…
 


 
From:Craig Chamberlin [mailto:craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 6:14 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
 
Hi PT,

Do you have a source for that?

Thanks,

Craig

needling around wrote: 
Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid disease.
PT
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From:brick...@aol.com 
To:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:27 PM
Subject:Re: CSOn a personal note
 
In a message dated 10/4/2010 9:51:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
papad...@gmail.com writes:
Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he ' ll get some minerals to
Good idea but remember sea salt does not have iodine added like table salt. 
You 
might have to also giv e him some kelp to make up for the iodine loss.
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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Craig Chamberlin





Hi Tel,

You can get it in pill form known as Iodoral.  It has been specifically
exempted in the law that was written limiting access to Lugol's.

Craig

Tel Tofflemire wrote:

  
  
  I would
like to see some Medical Doc. on that myself , I have been taking
(Lugol's Iodine 5%) all my life, I am over 70.  I doubt if you can make
Lugol's anymore anyway? It takes Potassium Iodine Crystals + Iodide
Crystals to mix with distilled water, to the exact amounts, if is not
pre mixed, like Lugol's.
  
  
  The
problem is you can not buy any of these ingredients except distilled
water anymore.  Some un-professional's  have been letting drug dealers
  drug makers buy it and re-sell it in a meth form,,, now you
can only sell Lugol's by the OZ. or smaller. I am a dealer in Herbal
supplies. I know the law.
  http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
  
  Tel
Tofflemire
  Arizona
  






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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Day Sutton

I have been taking Idoral for a little over a year. One Pill a day for
Atrial Fibrillation.  It works, I have gone from having 4 to 5 episodes a
week to perhaps one a month.  I haven't had one now for at least 2
months..

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Craig Chamberlin 
craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote:

  Hi Tel,

 You can get it in pill form known as Iodoral.  It has been specifically
 exempted in the law that was written limiting access to Lugol's.

 Craig


 Tel Tofflemire wrote:

  I would like to see some Medical Doc. on that myself , I have been taking
 (Lugol's Iodine 5%) all my life, I am over 70.  I doubt if you can make
 Lugol's anymore anyway? It takes Potassium Iodine Crystals + Iodide Crystals
 to mix with distilled water, to the exact amounts, if is not pre mixed, like
 Lugol's.

  The problem is you can not buy any of these ingredients except distilled
 water anymore.  Some un-professional's  have been letting drug dealers 
  drug makers buy it and re-sell it in a meth form,,, now you can only sell
 Lugol's by the OZ. or smaller. I am a dealer in Herbal supplies. I know the
 law.
 *http://www.quailwoodherbal.com
 *
 Tel Tofflemire
 Arizona


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread Brickeyk

 
In a message dated 10/5/2010 2:42:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune  thyroid 


Lack of iodine is linked to Goiters. My Grandmother died from a Goiter  
before iodine was added to table salt. So choose your poison, Thyroid or 
Goiter.  Her religion would not allow surgery. Dying with a Goiter was a slow 
painful  death. 
Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread sol


Ode Coyote wrote:



  MY dad started using sea salt and the more he used, the more his BP 
went down.
 Apparently sodium retention and elimination is keyed to the 
availability of other minerals.

Same thing happened to me with plain old canning salt.
sol


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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread needling around

Autoimmune disease is no fun either.
PT
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 9:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

  In a message dated 10/5/2010 2:42:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:
Yes, but taking iodine has been linked with autoimmune thyroid 
  Lack of iodine is linked to Goiters. My Grandmother died from a Goiter before 
iodine was added to table salt. So choose your poison, Thyroid or Goiter. Her 
religion would not allow surgery. Dying with a Goiter was a slow painful death. 
  Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-05 Thread sol


Craig Chamberlin wrote:

Hi PT,

Do you have a source for that?


I'm not PT, but here is one source (there are many others)
sol

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/ray-peat.htm
*Dr. Ray Peat: *30 years ago, it was found that people in the US were 
getting about ten times more iodine than they needed. In the mountains 
of Mexico and in the Andes, and in a few other remote places, iodine 
deficiency still exists. Kelp and other sources of excess iodine can 
suppress the thyroid, so they definitely shouldn't be used to treat 
hypothyroidism.



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread Marshall Dudley

 I believe an alternative to cutting down on salt is to increase ones 
pure water consumption. What is important is the ratio of the two, if 
you drink plenty of water excess salt is easily flushed from the body.


Marshall

On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium 
 The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but 
he has no intention of doing it   He could care less about trying 
to do HIS PART to protect his health.  If your husband shares your 
desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge blessing on 
his behalf !!!

jan

Hi Jan.  Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated.  And 
thanks also for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the 
hospital for 4 days?  Wow -- that's amazing.  I hope my husband does 
as well.  Thanks for your post -- it's given me a bright ray of hope.

MA


MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed
from the mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The
whole procedure went as smoothly as could be. He was in the
hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is stronger than ever ...
.  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
   jan

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the
surgery, and
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course,
I'm worried
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the
opportunities for
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is
that enough?
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't
know how the
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the
incision itself,
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice
from anyone
will be greatly appreciated.
MA





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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread sol

Craving for and high consumption of sodium can be an indicator of 
various imbalances. I would not be too quick to reduce sodium intake 
without investigating adrenal function and also getting the best most 
complete mineral balance analysis you can.
Some people need a high sodium intake, though that goes completely 
against current conventional medical opinion.

sol



On 10/1/2010 11:09 PM, Costumes wrote:
... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium 
 The Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... 
but he has no intention of doing it   He could care less about 
trying to do HIS PART to protect his health.  If your husband shares 
your desire for good health, then that will certainly be a huge 
blessing on his behalf !!!

jan



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-04 Thread Smitty



  ... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium ...


Replace his table salt with sea salt.
(without him knowing)
That way he'll get some minerals too .

Smitty

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread ZZekelink

MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to  light a candle-- Lois
_Light A Candle -  Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles, 
Memorial c_ (http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng)  
 
My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now.  He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and  cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the  surgery, 
and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course,  I'm 
worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the  opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS  -- is that 
enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's  kit). I don't know 
how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel  product on the incision 
itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out  of there. Any advice from 
anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread needling around

Hi Lois,
Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
PT
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  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

  MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle-- Lois
  Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles, Memorial 
c 

  My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
  open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
  myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, 
and 
  will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
  about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
  infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
  I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how 
the 
  hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision 
itself, 
  so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
  will be greatly appreciated.
  MA

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Jane MacRoss

Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do you 
know? (As to the size of the wound)

Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in 
actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and 
then use it, internally  externally. If you had hoped for this to be used in 
surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still use 
Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

Prayer from us here too

xxx
Jane   (RN)

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~
  - Original Message - 
  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note


  Hi Lois,
  Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
  PT
- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note


MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle-- Lois
Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles, 
Memorial c 

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, 
and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that 
enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how 
the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision 
itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA 



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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Robert L. Booth

Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you  want to on 
his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I infuse God's Divine Love into 
this situation  Thank You , Thank You, Thank You. 
 Robert
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote:

From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM

Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do you 
know? (As to the size of the wound)

Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in 
actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and 
then use it, internally  externally. If you had hoped for this to be used in 
surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still use 
Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

Prayer from us here too

xxx
Jane   (RN)

    http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message - 
From: needling around 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Hi Lois,
Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle-- Lois
Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles, Memorial c 

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA 

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RE: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Dianne France


MA-
When my husband was in for by-pass surgery I took my cs every day in a water 
type bottle.
That way no questions were asked.  I also took my small sprayer and after they 
prepped him
for surgery and left the room I then sprayed his chest very well with the cs 
and did not dry
it off so it could sit there a few.  I sprayed him multiple times everyday 
after surgery and there 
were infections in other rooms but he fortunately did not get it.  They may 
give you a problem 
about the gel.
 
I also made sure that I used a lot of cs on myself whenever I was taking care 
of him.  He is
doing great at this time and prayers were answered.  We will keep you in our 
prayers for
your husband.  Watching your husband go thru something like this isn't easy.  
Dianne

 

 
 
My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Dave Darrin

I consider that a bunch of obscene bull shit.
Keep it to your self, except place whatever you want to on his incision
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote:

Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you want toon
his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse God's Divine
Love into this situation Thank You , Thank You, Thank You.
Robert
--- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net* wrote:

From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net

Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM

Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do
you know? (As to the size of the wound)

Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in
actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and
then use it, internally externally. If you had hoped for this to be used
in surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still
use Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

Prayer from us here too

xxx
Jane (RN)

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message -
*From:* needling
aroundhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ptf2...@bellsouth.net
*To:*
silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

Hi Lois,
Thank you for this link. What a wonderful concept.
PT

- Original Message -
*From:*
zzekel...@aol.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zzekel...@aol.com
*To:*
silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSOn a personal note

*MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle--
Lois*
Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles,
Memorial c http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm?l=eng

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery,
and
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried

about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that
enough?
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how
the
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision
itself,
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone

will be greatly appreciated.
MA

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Robert L. Booth

If you wish to send obscenities on the net reap the repercussion.

--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 1:05 PM

I consider that a bunch of obscene bull shit.
Keep it to your self, except  place whatever you want to on his incision
Dave 

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.com wrote:

Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you  want to on 
his incision  if  it is for his highest good.  I infuse God's Divine Love into 
this situation  Thank You , Thank You, Thank You. 
 Robert
--- On Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote:

From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net 

Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM 

Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do you 
know? (As to the size of the wound)

Highly unlikely the wound will be uncovered to allow anyone other than in 
actual surgery to put anything on it at all - wait til you get him home and 
then use it, internally  externally. If you had hoped for this to be used in 
surgery it is very unlikely - unless he is allergic they usually still use 
Betadine or some Iodine based preparations.

Prayer from us here too

xxx
Jane   (RN)

    http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

- Original Message - 
From: needling around 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

Hi Lois,
Thank you for this link.  What a wonderful concept.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

MA, you and your husband are in our prayers. Going to light a candle-- Lois
Light A Candle - Birthday candles, Virtual candles, Votive candles, Memorial c 

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA 

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Dave Darrin

Gladly!
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Robert L. Booth zebulan5...@yahoo.comwrote:

If you wish to send obscenities on the net reap the repercussion.

--- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com* wrote:

From: Dave Darrin davedar...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 1:05 PM

I consider that a bunch of obscene bull shit.
Keep it to your self, except place whatever you want to on his incision
Dave

On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Robert L. Booth
zebulan5...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zebulan5...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Use the power of thought and hands of God and place what ever you want
to on his incision if it is for his highest good. I infuse God's
Divine Love into this situation Thank You , Thank You, Thank You.
Robert
--- On *Sat, 10/2/10, Jane MacRoss
highfie...@internode.on.nethttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=highfie...@internode.on.net
* wrote:

From: Jane MacRoss
highfie...@internode.on.nethttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=highfie...@internode.on.net

Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note
To:
silver-list@eskimo.comhttp://us.mc533.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 10:48 AM

Depends what method they're using - keyhole or opening the rib cage - do
you know? (As to the size of the wound)

Prayer from us here too

xxx
Jane (RN)

http://www.eamega.com/HighFieldHealth
~The Highest Field of Energy Healing you now!~

Hi Lois,
Thank you for this link. What a wonderful concept.
PT

will be greatly appreciated.
MA

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Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread Brickeyk

 
In a message dated 10/1/2010 7:49:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:

Were the bottles glass, or plastic?
MA




plastic

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-02 Thread MaryAnn Helland

Thanks Brickey -- I have a small collection of plastic water bottles ready to 
go!
MA

From: brick...@aol.com brick...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 3:56:50 PM
Subject: Re: CSOn a personal note

In a message dated 10/1/2010 7:49:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
Were the bottles glass, or plastic?
MA

plastic

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-01 Thread Brickeyk

 
In a message dated 10/1/2010 6:58:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:

Any  advice from anyone 
will be greatly  appreciated.



My recent hospital stay I ordered water with dinner. It arrived in bottles  
with the Hospital name. I emptied the bottles and filled them with my EIS  
without asking. Hospitals are so sensitive to lawsuits that nurses have to 
do  what the Hospital tells them. I take 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon which my DR 
said  was OK. The nurse had to have pharmacy approved cinnamon and the  
pharmacy did not know how to bless cinnamon. I told the nurse that I  brought 
some cinnamon pills with me and she went ballistic. Said get them out of  
here now.
 Talking to another DR later he said I should have told my DR and  maybe he 
would have blessed my cinnamon pills. If you feel lucky ask your DR to  
bless your EIS.
Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-01 Thread Costumes

MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the 
mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The whole procedure went as 
smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is 
stronger than ever ... .  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
   jan


My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how the 
hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland

Hi Brickey.  Thanks for the input.  I don't know the doctors at all, and don't 
feel particularly lucky.  I think your idea of using hospital bottles for the 
EIS is a great one!  Were the bottles glass, or plastic?
MA



From: brick...@aol.com brick...@aol.com


My recent hospital stay I ordered water with dinner. It arrived in bottles 
with 
the Hospital name. I emptied the bottles and filled them with my EIS without 
asking. Hospitals are so sensitive to lawsuits that nurses have to do what the 
Hospital tells them. I take 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon which my DR said was OK. 
The nurse had to have pharmacy approved cinnamon and the pharmacy did not know 
how to bless cinnamon. I told the nurse that I brought some cinnamon pills 
with 
me and she went ballistic. Said get them out of here now.
 Talking to another DR later he said I should have told my DR and maybe he 
would 
have blessed my cinnamon pills. If you feel lucky ask your DR to bless your 
EIS.
Brickey

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-01 Thread MaryAnn Helland

Hi Jan.  Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated.  And thanks 
also 
for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the hospital for 4 days?  Wow 
-- that's amazing.  I hope my husband does as well.  Thanks for your post -- 
it's given me a bright ray of hope.
MA



From: Costumes costu...@dnet.net


MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the 
mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The whole procedure went as 
smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is 
stronger than ever ... .  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
   jan 

My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, and 
will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how 
the 

hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision itself, 
so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
will be greatly appreciated.
MA

Re: CSOn a personal note............

2010-10-01 Thread Costumes

... Now if we could just get my Dad to stop eating salt and sodium  The 
Dr's told him he HAD to make improvements in his diet ... but he has no 
intention of doing it   He could care less about trying to do HIS PART to 
protect his health.  If your husband shares your desire for good health, then 
that will certainly be a huge blessing on his behalf !!!  
jan



Hi Jan.  Thanks in advance for the prayers -- it's appreciated.  And thanks 
also for the encouraging words -- your Dad was only in the hospital for 4 days? 
 Wow -- that's amazing.  I hope my husband does as well.  Thanks for your post 
-- it's given me a bright ray of hope.
MA


--

  MaryAnn, my Dad (84) had his aortic replaced, and a tumor removed from the 
mytral valve ... back in the spring, in Atlanta.  The whole procedure went as 
smoothly as could be. He was in the hospital for 4 days, and now his heart is 
stronger than ever ... .  Will say some prayers for your hubby  :)
 jan 
--

  My husband is at the Cleveland Clinic in Ohio right now. He will have 
  open-heart surgery on Tuesday (aortic valve replacement and cardiac 
  myeomectomy). I'll be driving there on Monday to be there for the surgery, 
and 
  will remain in Cleveland while he's in the hospital. Of course, I'm worried 
  about the surgery itself, but I'm more worried about the opportunities for 
  infections while he's there. So I'm taking a gallon of CS -- is that enough? 
  I'd also like to take some CS gel (courtesy of Ode's kit). I don't know how 
the 
  hospital staff would feel about an unknown gel product on the incision 
itself, 
  so I may not get that done until we're out of there. Any advice from anyone 
  will be greatly appreciated.
  MA 
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