Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[ccdirectt]

The comment below came from a curezone forum 

((Did you know, a single pin-head sized drop of liquid
nicotine would kill you instantly if introduced
directly into the blood stream, and yet many expose
their body and, as importantanly, those around them to
cigarette smoke everyday.))

There is a need for high doses of Vitamin b and c,
plus a number of other herbs and vitamins, that can
help to protect your body from harmful toxins.

--- Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Here's another one; salvia divinorum, a bitter herb
 that at very 
 low doses reduces drug-taking behaviour and actual
 consumption of 
 several specific addictive substances, but is itself
 non-
 addictive.
 
 Three low doses in the first week cuts desire for
 the substances 
 by about half; studies indicate reduced or
 eliminated withdrawal 
 from alcohol and opiates, probably the rest too.
 Addictive 
 substances that have been tested are in the class of
 mu-opioid 
 agonists: opiates, amphetamines, nicotine, alcohol,
 cocaine and 
 cannabis.
 
 Further, eating disorders, restricted breathing and
 depression 
 are also candidiates for treatment with this plant.
 References on 
 my salvia page can be located by gooogling salvia
 divinorum 
 references.
 
 Duncan
 
 On 29 Mar 2007 at 11:13, Jodi W Menard wrote:
 
  Teri, that's amazing!!I've got to try it. I wonder
 why it has to 
  be only at night though...?It would be 
  alot easier for me to put it in my morning O.J.
 instead. I hope 
  it doesn't matter when you take it, as 
  long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects
 from doing 
  this?Thank you so much!  Jodi
  
  Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM: 
  This was discussed on another list i am on and
 they recommended 1 
  teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce
 glass of orange juice 
  every night, for some reason it works, in the
 morning you 
  eliminate nicotine when you go to the
 bathroom, you continue 
  smoking, but as you release nicotine the
 craving goes down until 
  you are no longer wanting a cigarette. I am in
 my third week of 
  it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3
 cigarettes a day and that 
  won't be for much longer = it does seem to
 work.
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RE: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Dan Nave]

 Duncan,

What do you consider low doses and how are they delivered?

Oral, smoked, or straight leaf?

Thanks,

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:46 PM
To: Jodi W Menard; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

Here's another one; salvia divinorum, a bitter herb that at very low
doses reduces drug-taking behaviour and actual consumption of several
specific addictive substances, but is itself non- addictive.

Three low doses in the first week cuts desire for the substances by
about half; studies indicate reduced or eliminated withdrawal from
alcohol and opiates, probably the rest too. Addictive substances that
have been tested are in the class of mu-opioid
agonists: opiates, amphetamines, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine and
cannabis.

Further, eating disorders, restricted breathing and depression are also
candidiates for treatment with this plant. References on my salvia page
can be located by gooogling salvia divinorum references.

Duncan

On 29 Mar 2007 at 11:13, Jodi W Menard wrote:

 Teri, that's amazing!!I've got to try it. I wonder why it has to be 
 only at night though...?It would be alot easier for me to put it in my

 morning O.J. instead. I hope it doesn't matter when you take it, as 
 long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects from doing 
 this?Thank you so much!  Jodi
 
 Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM: 
 This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 
 teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice 
 every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you 
 eliminate nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue 
 smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving goes down until 
 you are no longer wanting a cigarette. I am in my third week of 
 it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that 
 won't be for much longer = it does seem to work.
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[Duncan Crow]

Here's another one; salvia divinorum, a bitter herb that at very 
low doses reduces drug-taking behaviour and actual consumption of 
several specific addictive substances, but is itself non-
addictive.

Three low doses in the first week cuts desire for the substances 
by about half; studies indicate reduced or eliminated withdrawal 
from alcohol and opiates, probably the rest too. Addictive 
substances that have been tested are in the class of mu-opioid 
agonists: opiates, amphetamines, nicotine, alcohol, cocaine and 
cannabis.

Further, eating disorders, restricted breathing and depression 
are also candidiates for treatment with this plant. References on 
my salvia page can be located by gooogling salvia divinorum 
references.

Duncan

On 29 Mar 2007 at 11:13, Jodi W Menard wrote:

 Teri, that's amazing!!I've got to try it. I wonder why it has to 
 be only at night though...?It would be 
 alot easier for me to put it in my morning O.J. instead. I hope 
 it doesn't matter when you take it, as 
 long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects from doing 
 this?Thank you so much!  Jodi
 
 Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM: 
 This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 
 teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice 
 every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you 
 eliminate nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue 
 smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving goes down until 
 you are no longer wanting a cigarette. I am in my third week of 
 it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that 
 won't be for much longer = it does seem to work.
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Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Shelli]

I told my brother about this and he was wondering if he could do it the morning 
as well as at night. I guess he's thinking more often might be better. Opinions?
Thanks.
Shelli

  - Original Message - 
  From: Teri Johnston 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:44 AM
  Subject: Fwd: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox




This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 teaspoon 
cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every night, for some 
reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine when you go to the 
bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving goes 
down until you are no longer wanting a cigarette.  I am in my third week of it 
and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much 
longer = it does seem to work.
-
  Teri Johnston
  Fireside Welsh Springer Spaniels
  www.welshspringers.com
  Young Living Essential Oil
  Distributor #935975
  Natures Pharmacy 



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This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 
teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice 
every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate 
nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as 
you release nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer 
wanting a cigarette.  I am in my third week of it and am down to 
maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much 
longer = it does seem to work.

-


Teri Johnston
Fireside Welsh Springer Spaniels
www.welshspringers.com
Young Living Essential Oil
Distributor #935975
Natures Pharmacy  

Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Jodi W Menard]

Teri, that's amazing!!
I've got to try it. I wonder why it has to be only at night though...?
It would be 
alot easier for me to put it in my morning O.J. instead. I hope it
doesn't matter when you take it, as 
long as you do. Have you noticed any side effects from doing this?
Thank you so much!  Jodi

Teri Johnston wrote on 3/29/2007, 9:44 AM:

  This was discussed on another list i am on and
they recommended 1
teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every
night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine
when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release
nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer wanting a
cigarette. I am in my third week of it and am down to maybe having
2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much longer = it does
seem
to work.






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Re: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Teri Johnston]

I just had saved the post and fowarded the one that was on the list 
previously.  I did not use this as I had quite a couple of years 
ago.  Hubby used it and it took him about a month to quite.


Teri



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www.welshspringers.com
Young Living Essential Oil
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RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Dee]

Actually, this is how I eventually managed it Peter.  I tried for about
fifteen years, but it was this sort of self hypnosis that eventually worked.
 Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Peter M. Stellas
Date: 29/12/2006 19:38:13
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
 
Dee,
 
I only offer this comment in the hope that it might help someone. Between
ages 19 and 30 I smoked a pack a day and tried to quit on many occasions.
You probably know the routine. Crumple the pack and throw it away, only to
un-crumple it later, straighten out a cigarette (sometimes using scotch
tape) in order to satisfy the craving. Nothing worked until I studied
something about the mind, visualization, subconscious perception of reality,
etc. 
 

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[marmar845]

 
 From: craehow...@juno.com craehow...@juno.com
 
 I have a hard time even remember that I ever smoked... I had never craved one 
 and never even think about them.  

 Yeah, me too.  I quit smoking about 25 years ago -- and I had a 
three-pack-a-day habit at the time.  I never think about them either.  But 
every once in awhile, I DREAM that I'm smoking.  And in the dream, I'm terribly 
dismayed to find myself smoking because I thought I had quit.  Very odd.  MA  


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RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Dee]

This sounds so easy when put like that!  Unfortunately, smoking is an
addiction and one of the hardest to beat, as it is involved with (sometimes)
lifetime habits which makes it so hard.  I know, because I am one of those
who managed it.  I think preparations and the like help to support people,
and this can be crucial in the winning, and this is of vital importance I
feel.  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Pat Lawrie
Date: 28/12/2006 02:43:07
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
 
Words from a practical guy: Each person needs to find his/her own approach.
P

Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net wrote:
Hello folks,

On the matter of detoxing from nicotine, please allow me a thought here.
Instead of constantly seeking for a way to medicate for this or that,
would it not be better to just do the following:

1. quit smoking
2. start exercising so that the lungs can expel the toxins naturally.
3. use a simple, general detox fast, such as the Master Cleanse.
4. start eating healthy foods

All too often we seem to look for concoctions and unnatural procedures as a
remedy for other unnatural concoctions and procedures that we want to
correct from.

Peter





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RE: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Peter M. Stellas]

Dee,

 

I only offer this comment in the hope that it might help someone. Between
ages 19 and 30 I smoked a pack a day and tried to quit on many occasions.
You probably know the routine. Crumple the pack and throw it away, only to
un-crumple it later, straighten out a cigarette (sometimes using scotch
tape) in order to satisfy the craving. Nothing worked until I studied
something about the mind, visualization, subconscious perception of reality,
etc. 

 

I prepared a side-by-side list of pros and cons to smoking versus not
smoking, and began to visualize myself as a non-smoker. This means that I
practiced seeing myself as a non-smoker, and began to imagine how well I
would feel, how much nicer I would smell, how much more in control I would
be as a non smoker. You have to do this exercise for about two weeks before
the subconscious mind accepts the new image of yourself and can support any
decision to stop smoking. All other efforts are difficult and often
impossible because we are using will power, chemicals, gum, etc. in a  fight
against what we really believe about ourselves, which is that we ARE
SMOKERS. The subconscious is always stronger than the conscious will power.
This technique is well known and practiced by athletes in a variety of
disciplines.

 

Only when the visualized new self  (Non-smoker) was accepted as real in my
subconscious mind, was I able to just quite suddenly, and never crave it
again, because only then did the subconscious mind agree with my decision to
quit smoking and the fight was over.

 

On rare occasions, over the years, I have indulged in a few cigarettes or a
cigar, along with some beers when I was in the company of smoker friends.
But the next day it was all forgotten (even regretting the after-taste of
cigars) with no cravings for tobacco. I perceive myself as a non-smoker in
my conscious and subconscious mind so I can smoke on very rare occasions and
never be hooked on it again.

 

I hope that I offered something worth considering.

 

Peter

 

 

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[craehow...@juno.com]

Just wanted to add my two cents.  I quit smoking back in 1982 but I never 
intended to stop.  In 1979 I was station at Scott AFB IL and had just returned 
from the clinic where I was told that I had pnemonia and numerous other things 
and that I would need to quit smoking.  Needless to say I did not follow that 
advise, but it really hurt to smoke.  So I bought some aqua filters which was 
better but not good.  I then found a package called a step at a time.  they had 
4 filter ranging from that stepped you through.  I began on No 2 but so 
switched to 3 as it felt the best on my throat.  within a couple of weeks I 
switch to a Malboro Light cigerette and in a few more weeks I began no 4 
filter.  I still never intended to quit.  I like the filters as they did not 
take the moisture out of my lips.  The only things I told myself was that I 
could not smoke without my filter.  A year and a half later I found I had not 
smoked in a couple days so I quit.  
I have a hard time even remember that I ever smoked... I had never craved one 
and never even think about them.  
Now twenty some years later I'm very grateful that I did quit...  my cost for a 
carton in 1978 was about $3.  I see now that it would be almost $30.
connie




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[Dan Nave]

Quitting smoking was very easy for me.  I did it a hundred times.

What was hard was to keep from starting up again.

What actually worked for me was realizing that the way I felt when I wanted a cigarette was exactly 
the way I felt shortly after finishing a cigarette.  I said to myself, I've just finished a cigarette...


I believe that Duncan is correct about Salvia Divinorum being effective for interrupting the 
addiction cycle.


Dan



Peter M. Stellas wrote:



Dee ,

 

I only offer this comment in the hope that it might help someone. 
Between ages 19 and 30 I smoked a pack a day and tried to quit on many 
occasions. You probably know the routine. Crumple the pack and throw it 
away, only to un-crumple it later, straighten out a cigarette (sometimes 
using scotch tape) in order to satisfy the craving. Nothing worked until 
I studied something about the mind, visualization, subconscious 
perception of reality, etc.


 

I prepared a side-by-side list of pros and cons to smoking versus not 
smoking, and began to * visualize myself as a non-smoker *. This means 
that I practiced seeing myself as a non-smoker, and began to imagine how 
well I would feel, how much nicer I would smell, how much more “in 
control” I would be as a non smoker. You have to do this exercise for 
about two weeks before the subconscious mind accepts the new image of 
yourself and can support any decision to stop smoking. All other efforts 
are difficult and often impossible because we are using will power, 
chemicals, gum, etc. in a  fight against what we really believe about 
ourselves, which is that we ARE SMOKERS. The subconscious is always 
stronger than the conscious will power. This technique is well known and 
practiced by athletes in a variety of disciplines.


 

Only when the visualized “new self “ (Non-smoker) was accepted as real 
in my subconscious mind, was I able to just quite suddenly, and never 
crave it again, because only then did the subconscious mind agree with 
my decision to quit smoking and the fight was over.


 

On rare occasions, over the years, I have indulged in a few cigarettes 
or a cigar, along with some beers when I was in the company of smoker 
friends. But the next day it was all forgotten (even regretting the 
after-taste of cigars) with no cravings for tobacco. I perceive myself 
as a non-smoker in my conscious and subconscious mind so I can smoke on 
very rare occasions and never be hooked on it again.


 


I hope that I offered something worth considering.

 


Peter





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Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Richard]

Yoga, breathing exercises, homeopathic Tabacum and positive  
thinking ! good luck

On 27/12/2006, at 5:34, rusty0 wrote:

This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1  
teaspoon cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice  
every night, for some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate  
nicotine when you go to the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as  
you release nicotine the craving goes down until you are no longer  
wanting a cigarette.  I am in my third week of it and am down to  
maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that won't be for much  
longer = it does seem to work.

- Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox



Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and
posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input
on it?

She asks:
 Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think  
about

 detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb


I'll be sauna would be on the list, Debb.

Be well,

Mike (researching sauna options) D.

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[Peter M. Stellas]

Hello folks,

On the matter of detoxing from nicotine, please allow me a thought here.
Instead of constantly seeking for a way to medicate for this or that,
would it not be better to just do the following:

1.  quit smoking
2.  start exercising so that the lungs can expel the toxins naturally.
3.  use a simple, general detox fast, such as the Master Cleanse.
4.  start eating healthy foods

All too often we seem to look for concoctions and unnatural procedures as a
remedy for other unnatural concoctions and procedures that we want to
correct from.

Peter
 

 


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[Pat Lawrie]

Words from a practical guy: Each person needs to find his/her own approach.
  P

Peter M. Stellas stel...@foxinternet.net wrote:
  Hello folks,

On the matter of detoxing from nicotine, please allow me a thought here.
Instead of constantly seeking for a way to medicate for this or that,
would it not be better to just do the following:

1. quit smoking
2. start exercising so that the lungs can expel the toxins naturally.
3. use a simple, general detox fast, such as the Master Cleanse.
4. start eating healthy foods

All too often we seem to look for concoctions and unnatural procedures as a
remedy for other unnatural concoctions and procedures that we want to
correct from.

Peter





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Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[Duncan Crow]

The herb salvia divinorum has been used as an anti-addictive on 
six of the top addictions, nicotine included, by removing the 
need and, uniquely, not repacing it with something else. 
References are on my website and I've seen it working in our 
little local trial too.

It works in this respect at lower than hallucinogenic doses.

Duncan Crow

On 26 Dec 2006 at 23:34, rusty0 wrote:

 This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 teaspoon 
 cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every night, for 
 some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine when you go to 
 the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving 
 goes down until you are no longer wanting a cigarette.  I am in my third 
 week of it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that 
 won't be for much longer = it does seem to work.
 - Original Message - 
 From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:11 PM
 Subject: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox
 
 
  Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and
  posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input
  on it?
 
  She asks:
   Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think about
   detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb
 
  I'll be sauna would be on the list, Debb.
 
  Be well,
 
  Mike (researching sauna options) D.
 
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[M. G. Devour]

Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and 
posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input 
on it?

She asks:
  Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think about
  detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb

I'll be sauna would be on the list, Debb.

Be well,

Mike (researching sauna options) D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox

[rusty0]

This was discussed on another list i am on and they recommended 1 teaspoon 
cream of tarter in an eight ounce glass of orange juice every night, for 
some reason it works, in the morning you eliminate nicotine when you go to 
the bathroom, you continue smoking, but as you release nicotine the craving 
goes down until you are no longer wanting a cigarette.  I am in my third 
week of it and am down to maybe having 2 or 3 cigarettes a day and that 
won't be for much longer = it does seem to work.
- Original Message - 
From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: C.S. Nicotene Detox



Okay, since I accidentally replied to the list rather then Debb, and
posted her original question as a result, maybe we can get some input
on it?

She asks:

 Hi I would really appreciate some Ideas on what you all think about
 detoxing the body and lungs from nicotene.long time smoker . Debb


I'll be sauna would be on the list, Debb.

Be well,

Mike (researching sauna options) D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
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