Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
Not all bad breath comes from the stomach. It can come from infected lungs, throat, and gums too. -Original Message- From: Alan Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan) Bad breath comes from the stomach. You can brush till the cows come home and not defeat that. In Ayurveda that is a diagnostic tool. Sour bad breath = excess of Pitta. An excessive sweet smell = an excess of Kapha. The tongue is the easiest way to diagnose a lot of issues. http://ayurveda.com/online_resource/tongue_analysis.html Gently scraping the tongue first thing in the morning is a great idea. Alan On 2014-03-12, at 12:25 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Alan, So doesn't your breath get a little funky? Mine does, and I have to be careful not to breathe on people while talking. Joe BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
True, I was speaking in general terms and that is why I mentioned the Kapha issues. I worked with a guy that had bad dental issues that resulted in incredibly bad breath. Only discovered the reason when he went to a dentist and discovered his soft gums had allowed food to be forced down into them. Then it rotted and voila. Brushing your teeth will not help infected lungs etc. Kapha problems are centred in different areas than the stomach also. An infected throat would tend to be a Pitta issue possibly stemming from Pitta issues in the stomach which have travelled uphill. Brushing your teeth will not help these also. Tooth powder/paste was a little used medicinal in days of yore, in fact dentists considered it of dubious use because it had sugar in it and thus created rotten teeth. Even nowadays it has fluoride in it which has been identified as a poison and has a warning label on it. This all seemed to get swept under the rug when one of the most famous salesmen of the 21st century made up TV jingles for Pepsodent and set the world believing that toothpaste was actually a good idea. Alan On 2014-03-13, at 08:05 AM, moxaman wrote: Not all bad breath comes from the stomach. It can come from infected lungs, throat, and gums too. -Original Message- From: Alan Faulkner Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:32 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan) Bad breath comes from the stomach. You can brush till the cows come home and not defeat that. In Ayurveda that is a diagnostic tool. Sour bad breath = excess of Pitta. An excessive sweet smell = an excess of Kapha. The tongue is the easiest way to diagnose a lot of issues. http://ayurveda.com/online_resource/tongue_analysis.html Gently scraping the tongue first thing in the morning is a great idea. Alan On 2014-03-12, at 12:25 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Alan, So doesn't your breath get a little funky? Mine does, and I have to be careful not to breathe on people while talking. Joe BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
What is a good site to buy Ayurveda teas? Olushola
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
Maharishi brand is THE best and this is the best place I have found. make sure to ask for Postal shipping as courier dings you with a customs fee, or at least they do in Canada. If you order anything liquid it will go courier. http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2359/Maharishi_Kapha_Tea.html http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2358/Maharishi_Pitta_Tea.html http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2357/Maharishi_Vata_Tea.html If anyone knows of a better source let me know. Alan On 2014-03-13, at 13:02 PM, olushola camara wrote: What is a good site to buy Ayurveda teas? Olushola
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
THANKS On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com wrote: Maharishi brand is THE best and this is the best place I have found. make sure to ask for Postal shipping as courier dings you with a customs fee, or at least they do in Canada. If you order anything liquid it will go courier. http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2359/Maharishi_Kapha_Tea.html http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2358/Maharishi_Pitta_Tea.html http://www.indiaabundance.com/shopping/sp194_pr2357/Maharishi_Vata_Tea.html If anyone knows of a better source let me know. Alan On 2014-03-13, at 13:02 PM, olushola camara wrote: What is a good site to buy Ayurveda teas? Olushola
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan) - dental
My mother always warned me that toothpaste had sugar in it to rot your teeth to make more work for dentists. Yeah, yeah, mum. A couple of years ago the dentist recommended a particular toothpaste for my husband's tooth sensitivity. When he used it the pain was like the pain caused to his teeth by sugar. When I researched the ingredients, I found there was sorbitol in it, used in toothpastes to keep the mix moist and runny. Sorry, mum. I'm enjoying a mix of toothpastes at the moment, bought via eBay from India while I was searching for meswak twigs. I did get meswak twigs from Egypt (treasures of Egypt 1918), where they were cheaper, but have only used them once or twice, mainly a memory problem . The taste was stronger than I expected. I do mean to get into my stride with them. My twig is standing as close as possible to toothcleaning location 1; there is no excuse really. It will happen. One day. One of the toothpastes from India is Meswak, and is very pleasant. Another is Dabur Red and another Vicco, Ayurvedic Medicine for gums and teeth (eBay money 619, moneykan...@gmail.com, M.Manikandan). I also sometimes use some Euthymol toothpaste sent to me from England, which some friends knew I used to use in the olden days. Of them all I like the Meswak best, but it's only a small tube so I am mean with it. From Mr Manikandan I also ordered some Narayani Muscular Joint cream, which I've had on my chair-side table for some time. Until now I couldn't remember what it was for (minuscule print, small tube), and from the pictures decided it must be for chest, colds, etc. and would sometimes put it around my sinuses, and also on the flat warts round the necklace area of my neck. I'm amazed to find that they have become flatter. They don't stick up like they used to. And so nice too is Chandrika Sandal Soap and Mysore Sandal premium soap, made just from sandalwood oil, lovely. OK folks, taste of India over, back to tonsils and teeth. Almost. Just speaking up, thinking of fluoride and water, in favour of rainwater, which has eased me of a lot of pain that I discovered RO filtered tap water gave me, presumably from the fluoride, undeterred by the filter. R On 14/03/2014 2:39 AM, Alan Faulkner wrote: Tooth powder/paste was a little used medicinal in days of yore, in fact dentists considered it of dubious use because it had sugar in it and thus created rotten teeth. Even nowadays it has fluoride in it which has been identified as a poison and has a warning label on it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
Hi Alan, So doesn't your breath get a little funky? Mine does, and I have to be careful not to breathe on people while talking. Joe BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones (Alan)
Bad breath comes from the stomach. You can brush till the cows come home and not defeat that. In Ayurveda that is a diagnostic tool. Sour bad breath = excess of Pitta. An excessive sweet smell = an excess of Kapha. The tongue is the easiest way to diagnose a lot of issues. http://ayurveda.com/online_resource/tongue_analysis.html Gently scraping the tongue first thing in the morning is a great idea. Alan On 2014-03-12, at 12:25 PM, Joe Huard wrote: Hi Alan, So doesn't your breath get a little funky? Mine does, and I have to be careful not to breathe on people while talking. Joe BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones
PLease explain A On 2014-03-09, at 15:47 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: I went over the list and found a number of contradictions. How does one get around these? Thanks. PT From: Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones From an Ayurvedic perspective what is happening is that excess heat is forming, probably in the stomach, probably from eating sugar/white flour/salt and or other irritants like garlic/onions/peppers or strong sour fruits, or basically anything that aggravates Pitta. See link below and follow the list under the Pitta favour/eliminate columns. Salt, and sugar as you probably know is in everything that comes from a box, bag or can. The excess heat produced by this, flows uphill like all heat does. It brings toxins from the excessive heat which is in a sense like smoke from a raging fire. As these toxins flow up hill, they cause things like goitre, sore throat (which degenerates into colds sometimes) Tonsillitis, and then if you don't do anything about it after these premonitory conditions you will be treated to dental issues of all varieties but essentially pain, cavties, heat/cold sensitivity/ Periodontal erosion, (receding gums) puffed up cheeks which will lead to biting the cheeks and biting the tongue. Periodontal issues A friend of mine's wife loved drinking a sugary sour drink. I mentioned she was asking for trouble but she persisted. Finally the pain was so bad she had all teeth removed. Must'a been good stuff. What makes it worse was she had a nervous breakdown a few years later as well as emotional outbursts of a very serious nature. BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. If you still don't get it you can look forward to burning eyes, brain fog, baldness, ringing in the ears (tinnitus) Some of these things may take a long time to manifest, but why take the pain? Funny thing is that the sugar has a very temporary soothing effect on the Pitta issues but then it hits the stomach and turns the heat up to bust. If you like sugar, you better like drilling. Things like gargling will temporarily stop the immediate issue but will just forestall the inevitable. It's a bandaid not a cure. http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf Alan On 2014-03-09, at 07:21 AM, moxaman wrote: Removing the tonsils is not a good thing. They are a necessary part of our immune system. The stones people experience are the result of eating a lot of junk or unhealthy food that accumulates behind the tonsils. Over time they solidify and bacteria accumulate. That’s why they have such an offensive odor. Gargling with 3% hydrogen peroxide or EIS will help to dislodge them and disinfect the area. The best way to remedy the situation is to eat a healthful high fiber low sugar/carb diet and chew the food well before swallowing. Things like white bread and dairy food contribute to their formation. From: Diana Clock Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
RE: CSTonsil stones
I've been sort of half following this discussion but it was only after you wrote about coughing them up that prompted me to chip in. Our son used to cough up fairly small white hard things in his late teens and we never knew what the heck they were. Is that right what you are saying they are? Even though he never had any infected tonsils or anything, well not that we ever knew of anyway. Truth be known I never considered looking in his throat back then. I must remember to ask him when next we meet if he has ever had them again since his teen years. I know gargling and ingesting EIS clears up those white 'lesions' or ulcer looking things on tonsils - tonsillitis - as I administered some to our adult daughter and it cleared up overnight. I only had to look at her tonsils to see it was tonsillitis, never did develop into a sore throat which amazed her doctor. Of course for obvious reasons she didn't tell the doctor what she had taken, nudge nudge wink wink say n'more. N. Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 14:36:27 +0800 From: new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R
Re: CSTonsil stones
Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CSTonsil stones
Removing the tonsils is not a good thing. They are a necessary part of our immune system. The stones people experience are the result of eating a lot of junk or unhealthy food that accumulates behind the tonsils. Over time they solidify and bacteria accumulate. That’s why they have such an offensive odor. Gargling with 3% hydrogen peroxide or EIS will help to dislodge them and disinfect the area. The best way to remedy the situation is to eat a healthful high fiber low sugar/carb diet and chew the food well before swallowing. Things like white bread and dairy food contribute to their formation. From: Diana Clock Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CSTonsil stones - tonsilloliths or calculi of the tonsils
Wikipedia says The crypt system is not merely a group of invaginations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invagination of the tonsillar epithelium but a highly complicated network of canals with special types of epithelium and with various structures surrounding the canals, such as blood and lymphatic vessels and germinal centers.^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] Macrophages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophages and other white blood cells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_blood_cells concentrate by the tonsillar crypts as well, in response to the microorganisms attracted to the crypts. Accordingly, the tonsillar crypts serve a forward sentry role for the immune system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system, by providing early exposure of immune system cells to infectious organisms which may be introduced into the body via food or other ingested matter.^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] However, the tonsillar crypts often provide such an inviting environment to bacteria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria that bacterial colonies may form solidified plugs or stones within the crypts. In particular, sufferers of chronic sinusitis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusitis or post-nasal drip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-nasal_drip frequently suffer from these overgrowths of bacteria in the tonsillar crypts.^[/medical citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_%28medicine%29/] These small whitish plugs, termed tonsilloliths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsilloliths and sometimes known as tonsil stones, have a foul smell and can contribute to bad breath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_breath; furthermore, they can obstruct the normal flow of pus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pus from the crypts, and may irritate the throat (people with tonsil stones may complain of the feeling that something is stuck in their throat).^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] Here is an article about it: http://www.therabreath.com/tonsil-stones-treatment.html It mentions: found in 75 percent of patients suffering from recurring tonsillitis When food particles and dead cells build up inside the tonsil crypts, bacterial organisms that create bad odors are immediately attracted to the area. In this anaerobic or low-oxygen environment, these bacterial organisms thrive and release sulfurous compounds as a byproduct of their metabolic process. Patients suffering from tonsil stones are frequently faced with the decision to remove their tonsils completely or create a tonsil stones treatment plan that involves regular maintenance and the periodic removal of the calcified material... Painful swallowing, metallic tastes, ear pain affecting local nerve paths, coughing, choking, visible debris, and sensations that the throat is restricted or closing are all common symptoms linked to tonsil stones... laser cryptolysis allows patients to keep their tonsils, which many improve the immune system and help inhibit some bacterial and viral infections. Studies have linked tonsil stones to post-nasal drip, dry mouth caused by medications and cases of chronic or recurrent purulent tonsillitis.. modern doctors are now using antibiotics and other methods to treat tonsillitis without surgery. Scientific evidence suggests that people who keep their tonsils are less likely to suffer from bacterial and viral infections than those who have undergone a complete tonsillectomy. Common treatment and prevention strategies include regularly removing calcified material when it causes pain or discomfort. If you are suffering from tonsillitis and tonsil stones, gargling warm salt water can help remove the debris and relieve the discomfort Another source calls them tonsil crypts and recommends gargling with one part water, one part any mouth rinse and one part hydrogen peroxide. CS would be perfect, I reckon. cwww.drgreene.com/qa-articles/treating-*tonsil*-stones/ Surgial treatment is almost never necessary for this condition, but when needed, treatment consists of either removing the tonsils or removing the calculi. Troublesome large calculi that are not easily dislodged may need an ear, nose, and throat doctor to remove them. Not too long ago, tonsils were routinely removed http://www.drgreene.com/qa/tonsillectomies-and-adenoidectomies-ear-infections for the sole crime of being swollen and inflamed. We didn’t understand, then, that the tonsils purposely accept the infections http://www.drgreene.com/qa/bacteria-vs-viruses?lc=int_mb_1001 to prevent the organisms from traveling deeper, and to show the invaders to the developing immune system http://www.drgreene.com/blog/2001/07/13/too-many-infections to train it for the future. The tonsils are selfless protectors. As a child becomes an
Re: CSTonsil stones - tonsilloliths or calculi of the tonsils
Thank you so much for this wonderful information. This explains a lot since my tonsils were removed for me when I was a child. Of course I had no choice. That lymphatic connection I can relate to for sure. CS and warm salt water is an effective idea. The CS is where my healing really started when a friend advised me to use it as a sinus rince. Ouch... but after it stopped hurting I could feel how deeply it was healing. Tara On 3/9/14, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Wikipedia says The crypt system is not merely a group of invaginations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invagination of the tonsillar epithelium but a highly complicated network of canals with special types of epithelium and with various structures surrounding the canals, such as blood and lymphatic vessels and germinal centers.^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] Macrophages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophages and other white blood cells http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_blood_cells concentrate by the tonsillar crypts as well, in response to the microorganisms attracted to the crypts. Accordingly, the tonsillar crypts serve a forward sentry role for the immune system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system, by providing early exposure of immune system cells to infectious organisms which may be introduced into the body via food or other ingested matter.^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] However, the tonsillar crypts often provide such an inviting environment to bacteria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteria that bacterial colonies may form solidified plugs or stones within the crypts. In particular, sufferers of chronic sinusitis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinusitis or post-nasal drip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-nasal_drip frequently suffer from these overgrowths of bacteria in the tonsillar crypts.^[/medical citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources_%28medicine%29/] These small whitish plugs, termed tonsilloliths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsilloliths and sometimes known as tonsil stones, have a foul smell and can contribute to bad breath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_breath; furthermore, they can obstruct the normal flow of pus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pus from the crypts, and may irritate the throat (people with tonsil stones may complain of the feeling that something is stuck in their throat).^[/citation needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed/] Here is an article about it: http://www.therabreath.com/tonsil-stones-treatment.html It mentions: found in 75 percent of patients suffering from recurring tonsillitis When food particles and dead cells build up inside the tonsil crypts, bacterial organisms that create bad odors are immediately attracted to the area. In this anaerobic or low-oxygen environment, these bacterial organisms thrive and release sulfurous compounds as a byproduct of their metabolic process. Patients suffering from tonsil stones are frequently faced with the decision to remove their tonsils completely or create a tonsil stones treatment plan that involves regular maintenance and the periodic removal of the calcified material... Painful swallowing, metallic tastes, ear pain affecting local nerve paths, coughing, choking, visible debris, and sensations that the throat is restricted or closing are all common symptoms linked to tonsil stones... laser cryptolysis allows patients to keep their tonsils, which many improve the immune system and help inhibit some bacterial and viral infections. Studies have linked tonsil stones to post-nasal drip, dry mouth caused by medications and cases of chronic or recurrent purulent tonsillitis.. modern doctors are now using antibiotics and other methods to treat tonsillitis without surgery. Scientific evidence suggests that people who keep their tonsils are less likely to suffer from bacterial and viral infections than those who have undergone a complete tonsillectomy. Common treatment and prevention strategies include regularly removing calcified material when it causes pain or discomfort. If you are suffering from tonsillitis and tonsil stones, gargling warm salt water can help remove the debris and relieve the discomfort Another source calls them tonsil crypts and recommends gargling with one part water, one part any mouth rinse and one part hydrogen peroxide. CS would be perfect, I reckon. cwww.drgreene.com/qa-articles/treating-*tonsil*-stones/ Surgial treatment is almost never necessary for this condition, but when needed, treatment consists of either removing the tonsils or removing the calculi. Troublesome large calculi that are not easily dislodged may need an ear, nose, and throat doctor to remove them. Not too long ago, tonsils were routinely removed
Re: CSTonsil stones
Interestingly I used to brush my teeth when I had them and I was a vegetarian then also. A On 2014-03-08, at 22:36 PM, Rowena wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food.
Re: CSTonsil stones
From an Ayurvedic perspective what is happening is that excess heat is forming, probably in the stomach, probably from eating sugar/white flour/salt and or other irritants like garlic/onions/peppers or strong sour fruits, or basically anything that aggravates Pitta. See link below and follow the list under the Pitta favour/eliminate columns. Salt, and sugar as you probably know is in everything that comes from a box, bag or can. The excess heat produced by this, flows uphill like all heat does. It brings toxins from the excessive heat which is in a sense like smoke from a raging fire. As these toxins flow up hill, they cause things like goitre, sore throat (which degenerates into colds sometimes) Tonsillitis, and then if you don't do anything about it after these premonitory conditions you will be treated to dental issues of all varieties but essentially pain, cavties, heat/cold sensitivity/ Periodontal erosion, (receding gums) puffed up cheeks which will lead to biting the cheeks and biting the tongue. Periodontal issues A friend of mine's wife loved drinking a sugary sour drink. I mentioned she was asking for trouble but she persisted. Finally the pain was so bad she had all teeth removed. Must'a been good stuff. What makes it worse was she had a nervous breakdown a few years later as well as emotional outbursts of a very serious nature. BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. If you still don't get it you can look forward to burning eyes, brain fog, baldness, ringing in the ears (tinnitus) Some of these things may take a long time to manifest, but why take the pain? Funny thing is that the sugar has a very temporary soothing effect on the Pitta issues but then it hits the stomach and turns the heat up to bust. If you like sugar, you better like drilling. Things like gargling will temporarily stop the immediate issue but will just forestall the inevitable. It's a bandaid not a cure. http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf Alan On 2014-03-09, at 07:21 AM, moxaman wrote: Removing the tonsils is not a good thing. They are a necessary part of our immune system. The stones people experience are the result of eating a lot of junk or unhealthy food that accumulates behind the tonsils. Over time they solidify and bacteria accumulate. That’s why they have such an offensive odor. Gargling with 3% hydrogen peroxide or EIS will help to dislodge them and disinfect the area. The best way to remedy the situation is to eat a healthful high fiber low sugar/carb diet and chew the food well before swallowing. Things like white bread and dairy food contribute to their formation. From: Diana Clock Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
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Wow, I have all of those problems, and I gave up sugar, flour and processed salt years ago. I still use garlic, onions, peppers and I really love Granny Smith apples. I will read the .pdf and see what else I have to give up. Joe On 09/03/2014 2:38 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: From an Ayurvedic perspective what is happening is that excess heat is forming, probably in the stomach, probably from eating sugar/white flour/salt and or other irritants like garlic/onions/peppers or strong sour fruits, or basically anything that aggravates Pitta. See link below and follow the list under the Pitta favour/eliminate columns. Salt, and sugar as you probably know is in everything that comes from a box, bag or can. The excess heat produced by this, flows uphill like all heat does. It brings toxins from the excessive heat which is in a sense like smoke from a raging fire. As these toxins flow up hill, they cause things like goitre, sore throat (which degenerates into colds sometimes) Tonsillitis, and then if you don't do anything about it after these premonitory conditions you will be treated to dental issues of all varieties but essentially pain, cavties, heat/cold sensitivity/ Periodontal erosion, (receding gums) puffed up cheeks which will lead to biting the cheeks and biting the tongue. Periodontal issues A friend of mine's wife loved drinking a sugary sour drink. I mentioned she was asking for trouble but she persisted. Finally the pain was so bad she had all teeth removed. Must'a been good stuff. What makes it worse was she had a nervous breakdown a few years later as well as emotional outbursts of a very serious nature. BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. If you still don't get it you can look forward to burning eyes, brain fog, baldness, ringing in the ears (tinnitus) Some of these things may take a long time to manifest, but why take the pain? Funny thing is that the sugar has a very temporary soothing effect on the Pitta issues but then it hits the stomach and turns the heat up to bust. If you like sugar, you better like drilling. Things like gargling will temporarily stop the immediate issue but will just forestall the inevitable. It's a bandaid not a cure. http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf Alan On 2014-03-09, at 07:21 AM, moxaman wrote: Removing the tonsils is not a good thing. They are a necessary part of our immune system. The stones people experience are the result of eating a lot of junk or unhealthy food that accumulates behind the tonsils. Over time they solidify and bacteria accumulate. That’s why they have such an offensive odor. Gargling with 3% hydrogen peroxide or EIS will help to dislodge them and disinfect the area. The best way to remedy the situation is to eat a healthful high fiber low sugar/carb diet and chew the food well before swallowing. Things like white bread and dairy food contribute to their formation. *From:* Diana Clock mailto:dianacl...@ymail.com *Sent:* Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:14 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSTonsil stones Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net mailto:new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
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I went over the list and found a number of contradictions. How does one get around these? Thanks. PT From: Alan Faulkner ala...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones From an Ayurvedic perspective what is happening is that excess heat is forming, probably in the stomach, probably from eating sugar/white flour/salt and or other irritants like garlic/onions/peppers or strong sour fruits, or basically anything that aggravates Pitta. See link below and follow the list under the Pitta favour/eliminate columns. Salt, and sugar as you probably know is in everything that comes from a box, bag or can. The excess heat produced by this, flows uphill like all heat does. It brings toxins from the excessive heat which is in a sense like smoke from a raging fire. As these toxins flow up hill, they cause things like goitre, sore throat (which degenerates into colds sometimes) Tonsillitis, and then if you don't do anything about it after these premonitory conditions you will be treated to dental issues of all varieties but essentially pain, cavties, heat/cold sensitivity/ Periodontal erosion, (receding gums) puffed up cheeks which will lead to biting the cheeks and biting the tongue. Periodontal issues A friend of mine's wife loved drinking a sugary sour drink. I mentioned she was asking for trouble but she persisted. Finally the pain was so bad she had all teeth removed. Must'a been good stuff. What makes it worse was she had a nervous breakdown a few years later as well as emotional outbursts of a very serious nature. BTW brushing the teeth makes it worse because you are scraping off the protective layers despite what all the advertising nonsense spews out. If you still don't get it you can look forward to burning eyes, brain fog, baldness, ringing in the ears (tinnitus) Some of these things may take a long time to manifest, but why take the pain? Funny thing is that the sugar has a very temporary soothing effect on the Pitta issues but then it hits the stomach and turns the heat up to bust. If you like sugar, you better like drilling. Things like gargling will temporarily stop the immediate issue but will just forestall the inevitable. It's a bandaid not a cure. http://ayurveda.com/pdf/food-guidelines.pdf Alan On 2014-03-09, at 07:21 AM, moxaman wrote: Removing the tonsils is not a good thing. They are a necessary part of our immune system. The stones people experience are the result of eating a lot of junk or unhealthy food that accumulates behind the tonsils. Over time they solidify and bacteria accumulate. That’s why they have such an offensive odor. Gargling with 3% hydrogen peroxide or EIS will help to dislodge them and disinfect the area. The best way to remedy the situation is to eat a healthful high fiber low sugar/carb diet and chew the food well before swallowing. Things like white bread and dairy food contribute to their formation. From: Diana Clock Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones Thanks guys! He wants his tonsils taken out, but not sure that is a good idea. Would gargling with silver be a good idea, or there are products out there that are suppose to be good for oral health. It seems like when he gets a cold and the drainage may cause them. But, after lyme this is a small thing! If all he is left with is craters on the tonsils! Blessings to all! Sent from my iPad On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Rowena new...@internode.on.net wrote: Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: List Owner: Mike Devour
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I used to get those 'stones' from time to time. I wouldn't notice them until they got big enough that I could feel them while swallowing or that they'd rub against and irritate the tissues that the tonsils normally touch. I found that if I had a long enough swab I could loosen them and remove them. White hard lumps. If you squeezed them they would have this horrific smell like a sewer. Two possible things are going on. Food particles can get caught in there and build up. But more likely, it is bacteria being killed off (by the tonsils?) and accumulating due to the crater effect. If it's from bacteria, I think that a regular hit of CS would be a good preventative, but once you have the lump in there, I doubt that CS or any other thing you ingest would dissolve them. Sometimes I have sneezed them out. I have on occasion, taken something more sharp than a q-tip to dislodge these lumps, but I do NOT recommend that. Perhaps a tongue depressor would work, but you really have to watch out for the gag reflex. I hope some of this helps. Steve From: Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: CSTonsil stones Does anyone know if silver works for tonsil stones? Or the rife dp100 for them? Every since we battled lyme, etc. our son has craters in his tonsilsand the stones are showing up more frequently. Thank you for any ideas Diana Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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A friend of mine had one of these. Eventually it got large enough that the body just expelled it. Unfortunately that didn't happen *before* the dentist told her it was a pre-cancerous condition. PT From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:01 PM Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones I used to get those 'stones' from time to time. I wouldn't notice them until they got big enough that I could feel them while swallowing or that they'd rub against and irritate the tissues that the tonsils normally touch. I found that if I had a long enough swab I could loosen them and remove them. White hard lumps. If you squeezed them they would have this horrific smell like a sewer. Two possible things are going on. Food particles can get caught in there and build up. But more likely, it is bacteria being killed off (by the tonsils?) and accumulating due to the crater effect. If it's from bacteria, I think that a regular hit of CS would be a good preventative, but once you have the lump in there, I doubt that CS or any other thing you ingest would dissolve them. Sometimes I have sneezed them out. I have on occasion, taken something more sharp than a q-tip to dislodge these lumps, but I do NOT recommend that. Perhaps a tongue depressor would work, but you really have to watch out for the gag reflex. I hope some of this helps. Steve From: Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: CSTonsil stones Does anyone know if silver works for tonsil stones? Or the rife dp100 for them? Every since we battled lyme, etc. our son has craters in his tonsilsand the stones are showing up more frequently. Thank you for any ideas Diana Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food. Regarding precancerous, I seriously doubt that. Your tonsils are part of the defence system of the body. They are designed to do that from what I can gather. Al On 2014-03-08, at 09:08 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: A friend of mine had one of these. Eventually it got large enough that the body just expelled it. Unfortunately that didn't happen *before* the dentist told her it was a pre-cancerous condition. PT From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 12:01 PM Subject: Re: CSTonsil stones I used to get those 'stones' from time to time. I wouldn't notice them until they got big enough that I could feel them while swallowing or that they'd rub against and irritate the tissues that the tonsils normally touch. I found that if I had a long enough swab I could loosen them and remove them. White hard lumps. If you squeezed them they would have this horrific smell like a sewer. Two possible things are going on. Food particles can get caught in there and build up. But more likely, it is bacteria being killed off (by the tonsils?) and accumulating due to the crater effect. If it's from bacteria, I think that a regular hit of CS would be a good preventative, but once you have the lump in there, I doubt that CS or any other thing you ingest would dissolve them. Sometimes I have sneezed them out. I have on occasion, taken something more sharp than a q-tip to dislodge these lumps, but I do NOT recommend that. Perhaps a tongue depressor would work, but you really have to watch out for the gag reflex. I hope some of this helps. Steve From: Diana Clock dianacl...@ymail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: CSTonsil stones Does anyone know if silver works for tonsil stones? Or the rife dp100 for them? Every since we battled lyme, etc. our son has craters in his tonsilsand the stones are showing up more frequently. Thank you for any ideas Diana Sent from my iPad -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTonsil stones
Me too, in my twenties. Sometimes they would cough up. A few times I poked them out, and remember one time there was some blood behind it in the crypt, which makes me wonder whether the blood was dumping garbage there. Gargling would surely be a good idea, and perhaps help dislodge them so they can be spat out. R On 9/03/2014 12:27 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote: I used to get them. I would squeeze them out, as it is just a hardened pus like in a pimple. Stay away from sour foods, sugar and junk food.
