Re: CStick bite problem - oregano in general
Just reading this and I was wondering if this would be the same. I ingest oil of oreganotwo drops under the tongue for shingles. Is this right, or should I be diluting it? Many thanks. dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:19:27 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CStick bite problem Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:19:33 -0800 Part of the tick may still be in your arm. If you swab directly with oregano, you may overdose your skin which could create some of the reaction. Some oils penetrate better than others. Tea tree, clove, lavender penetrate. Mixing your oregano with jojoba and those other oils could be a better way than straight oregano. I would be tempted to keep it cold at first while you zap with a battery. In a few days, alternating heat and cold could be beneficial. Isopropyl alcohol may not be as good as vodka or everclear. Vitamin C, several grams could be good. If you have respiratory allergic reactions, baking soda and or choline may help. If you zapp, be aware that local burns are possible. You can feel this happening. Avoid it by increasing the area of the damp sponges/ paper towels or decreasing the voltage.
Re: CStick bite problem
Hi Lena, If you are stockpiling doxy did you check the shelf life first? Most meds start to deteriorate after a given period of time and I wouldn't want you to think you were safe when you weren't. PT From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, November 21, 2012 9:03:24 PM Subject: Re: CStick bite problem Hi Vicki, Sounds like you're doing some smart things, As a chronic Lymie of 45+ years, I'm definitely not a fan of abx, but Doxycycline, 6 week's worth, will stopacute Lyme (recently bitten) and resolve it if administered right away. alldaychemist.com is an offshore source (without a prescription) for generic doxy, where I just placed an order for some to have on hand in case any of my loved ones are ever bitten. It's a reputable source with good, reliable products, very cheap, but shipping is high and not super fast. (Also, they've recently switched payment methods from credit cards to money orders and such, so less convenient) That's worrisome for your situation. If you can get even a couple weeks of doxy from a local doctor until you can get more on your own, that's what I would do in your situation. Most docs will prescribe doxy after an obvious bull's eye Lyme rash, but not for long enough to truly nip it in the bud, as experienced and recognized by most if the Lyme community. Warning: I'm not a doc, only a lymie lab-rat, with no credentials to give medical advice, only to share what I've learned and experienced on several Lyme groups over 6 years. Once this bite goes chronic and the pathogens have found their desired hiding places, it's a much more complicated, costly, and uncertain health problem that I wouldn't wish on anyone. You have a small, very important window of opportunity to save yourself years of struggle and heartache. Best of luck. Be well, Léna On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
At least 2 years, kept cool, dry and dark. They're cheap enough (except for shipping) and available, (once they arrive) with no allopathic hoops to jump through, so can be used immediately. L On Nov 22, 2012, at 3:47 PM, PT Ferrance wrote: Hi Lena, If you are stockpiling doxy did you check the shelf life first? Most meds start to deteriorate after a given period of time and I wouldn't want you to think you were safe when you weren't. PT From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, November 21, 2012 9:03:24 PM Subject: Re: CStick bite problem Hi Vicki, Sounds like you're doing some smart things, As a chronic Lymie of 45+ years, I'm definitely not a fan of abx, but Doxycycline, 6 week's worth, will stop acute Lyme (recently bitten) and resolve it if administered right away. alldaychemist.com is an offshore source (without a prescription) for generic doxy, where I just placed an order for some to have on hand in case any of my loved ones are ever bitten. It's a reputable source with good, reliable products, very cheap, but shipping is high and not super fast. (Also, they've recently switched payment methods from credit cards to money orders and such, so less convenient) That's worrisome for your situation. If you can get even a couple weeks of doxy from a local doctor until you can get more on your own, that's what I would do in your situation. Most docs will prescribe doxy after an obvious bull's eye Lyme rash, but not for long enough to truly nip it in the bud, as experienced and recognized by most if the Lyme community. Warning: I'm not a doc, only a lymie lab-rat, with no credentials to give medical advice, only to share what I've learned and experienced on several Lyme groups over 6 years. Once this bite goes chronic and the pathogens have found their desired hiding places, it's a much more complicated, costly, and uncertain health problem that I wouldn't wish on anyone. You have a small, very important window of opportunity to save yourself years of struggle and heartache. Best of luck. Be well, Léna On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
RE: CStick bite problem
If I were you Id do two things right away. Make a paste out of activated charcoal and tincture of lobelia, echinacia,comfrey, and lobelia (brownrecluses.com makes a great one). Id also apply some electricity. Get a flashlight battery (not 9 volt, 1 ½ or 3 volt). Solder two wires to either end, cut some sponges in 2 inch squares and wrap those sponges around the two ends of the two wires (after you strip the ends of plastic). Afix with a rubber band. Wet sponges and apply sponges to either side of bite or one on top and one on the other side of forearm. Keep in place for 5 minutes then switch sponges and treat for another 5 minutes. Do this once a day for the next 3 days. Apply paste twice a day. If you cant get any of these things, get some baking soda and mix with CS to a paste. Apply this in same manner but wont be as effective as the lobelia tincture. Good luck. Bob _ From: vicki hood [mailto:mutt...@isp.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStick bite problem Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
I would consider godzilla type Zapping, nothing but 6 volt battery with leads stuck into sponges or whatever. Beyond that, frequency zapping ala Hulda Clark and Rife. Brooks CS with DMSO topically. Prid drawing salve from the pharmacy has drawing powers if you leave it on for a few days in a paste. Make a salve from bees wax olive or coconut oil and oregano oil. Add lavender oil and clove to it. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
Go to a doc and get a month of antibiotics. You can do all this other stuff as well. Take lots of probiotics if you take the antibiotics. They are not as dangerous as not getting them when you are bitten by a tick. I second the CS with DMSO topically. Since it if in your forearm, I would make a bath with 90% CS and 10% DMSO and just submerge the whole rash for as long as you can each day. David On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: I would consider godzilla type Zapping, nothing but 6 volt battery with leads stuck into sponges or whatever. Beyond that, frequency zapping ala Hulda Clark and Rife. Brooks CS with DMSO topically. Prid drawing salve from the pharmacy has drawing powers if you leave it on for a few days in a paste. Make a salve from bees wax olive or coconut oil and oregano oil. Add lavender oil and clove to it. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
I agree with Dave a 100%...this is coming from a lymie Paul From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:12 PM Subject: Re: CStick bite problem Go to a doc and get a month of antibiotics. You can do all this other stuff as well. Take lots of probiotics if you take the antibiotics. They are not as dangerous as not getting them when you are bitten by a tick. I second the CS with DMSO topically. Since it if in your forearm, I would make a bath with 90% CS and 10% DMSO and just submerge the whole rash for as long as you can each day. David On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: I would consider godzilla type Zapping, nothing but 6 volt battery with leads stuck into sponges or whatever. Beyond that, frequency zapping ala Hulda Clark and Rife. Brooks CS with DMSO topically. Prid drawing salve from the pharmacy has drawing powers if you leave it on for a few days in a paste. Make a salve from bees wax olive or coconut oil and oregano oil. Add lavender oil and clove to it. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
Part of the tick may still be in your arm. If you swab directly with oregano, you may overdose your skin which could create some of the reaction. Some oils penetrate better than others. Tea tree, clove, lavender penetrate. Mixing your oregano with jojoba and those other oils could be a better way than straight oregano. I would be tempted to keep it cold at first while you zap with a battery. In a few days, alternating heat and cold could be beneficial. Isopropyl alcohol may not be as good as vodka or everclear. Vitamin C, several grams could be good. If you have respiratory allergic reactions, baking soda and or choline may help. If you zapp, be aware that local burns are possible. You can feel this happening. Avoid it by increasing the area of the damp sponges/ paper towels or decreasing the voltage. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
Hi Vicki, Sounds like you're doing some smart things, As a chronic Lymie of 45+ years, I'm definitely not a fan of abx, but Doxycycline, 6 week's worth, will stop acute Lyme (recently bitten) and resolve it if administered right away. alldaychemist.com is an offshore source (without a prescription) for generic doxy, where I just placed an order for some to have on hand in case any of my loved ones are ever bitten. It's a reputable source with good, reliable products, very cheap, but shipping is high and not super fast. (Also, they've recently switched payment methods from credit cards to money orders and such, so less convenient) That's worrisome for your situation. If you can get even a couple weeks of doxy from a local doctor until you can get more on your own, that's what I would do in your situation. Most docs will prescribe doxy after an obvious bull's eye Lyme rash, but not for long enough to truly nip it in the bud, as experienced and recognized by most if the Lyme community. Warning: I'm not a doc, only a lymie lab-rat, with no credentials to give medical advice, only to share what I've learned and experienced on several Lyme groups over 6 years. Once this bite goes chronic and the pathogens have found their desired hiding places, it's a much more complicated, costly, and uncertain health problem that I wouldn't wish on anyone. You have a small, very important window of opportunity to save yourself years of struggle and heartache. Best of luck. Be well, Léna On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki
Re: CStick bite problem
Don't take no from the doctor. I got bit by a deer tick with lyme and my doctor refused to prescribe me any antibiotics. 3 years later and $6,000 worth of IV's I was able to get it under control. Don't allow the doctor to test for lyme, the tests are incredibly inaccurate, and they will use a false negative to deny you antibiotics. Marshall On 11/21/2012 8:12 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Go to a doc and get a month of antibiotics. You can do all this other stuff as well. Take lots of probiotics if you take the antibiotics. They are not as dangerous as not getting them when you are bitten by a tick. I second the CS with DMSO topically. Since it if in your forearm, I would make a bath with 90% CS and 10% DMSO and just submerge the whole rash for as long as you can each day. David On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com mailto:mgperra...@aol.com wrote: I would consider godzilla type Zapping, nothing but 6 volt battery with leads stuck into sponges or whatever. Beyond that, frequency zapping ala Hulda Clark and Rife. Brooks CS with DMSO topically. Prid drawing salve from the pharmacy has drawing powers if you leave it on for a few days in a paste. Make a salve from bees wax olive or coconut oil and oregano oil. Add lavender oil and clove to it. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2629/5410 - Release Date: 11/21/12
Re: CStick bite problem
Not to mention that tests, even if accurate, will cost you time you cannot waste in this small window of opportunity while the new infection is still acute, rather than going into chronic. In Lyme-dense areas, most docs wil simple begin abx, based on yor account of tick-bite, some even without bull's-eye rash, which is wisdom considering only 30% of new cases of Lyme manifest this sign. L On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Marshall wrote: Don't take no from the doctor. I got bit by a deer tick with lyme and my doctor refused to prescribe me any antibiotics. 3 years later and $6,000 worth of IV's I was able to get it under control. Don't allow the doctor to test for lyme, the tests are incredibly inaccurate, and they will use a false negative to deny you antibiotics. Marshall On 11/21/2012 8:12 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Go to a doc and get a month of antibiotics. You can do all this other stuff as well. Take lots of probiotics if you take the antibiotics. They are not as dangerous as not getting them when you are bitten by a tick. I second the CS with DMSO topically. Since it if in your forearm, I would make a bath with 90% CS and 10% DMSO and just submerge the whole rash for as long as you can each day. David On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM, mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: I would consider godzilla type Zapping, nothing but 6 volt battery with leads stuck into sponges or whatever. Beyond that, frequency zapping ala Hulda Clark and Rife. Brooks CS with DMSO topically. Prid drawing salve from the pharmacy has drawing powers if you leave it on for a few days in a paste. Make a salve from bees wax olive or coconut oil and oregano oil. Add lavender oil and clove to it. On 11/21/2012 5:31 PM, vicki hood wrote: Hi all, Yesterday scraped tick out of my forearm. It was half embedded. Very smalll deer tick. I have problems. I drank CS numerous times, washed it with alcohol, scratched a lot. Last night it swelled. It turned red. It hurts and itches in a path 3inches by 6 inches with a hard circle about the size of a 50 cent piece at the bite then swelling and heat and red that headed upward and sideways from the top of my forearm. It is hot and swollen ---Still drinking CS. short soak in rubbing alcohol. Several swabs of oil of oregano. Avoiding doctor. everal years ago i had tick bite that had hard, red angry reaction. Doctor said i am allergic. Whoa, Benedryl? What do i do? HELP. MuttmomVicki No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1427 / Virus Database: 2629/5410 - Release Date: 11/21/12
