[SLUG] IMAP Question

2001-05-10 Thread Andy Eager


Given imap's apparent lack of configuration (for anything), how does it 
know which directory to get my mail from [ //var/spool/mail//].

Is this one of those programs that needs to be configured in the source 
code ?

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Re: [SLUG] [OT] 3 wire fans

2001-05-10 Thread Alex Salmon

hiya..

thanks for that.. i like the idea or feeding it into my parallel port
as i have a few unused so ill start coding a lil prog to make it all 
pretty ;-)

thanks alot

alex


 
> Black and Red are the 12V power for the fan.
> Yellow is an open collector output that changes state 4 times per 
> revolution. (on-off-on-off per rev).
> 
> You could feed this to an unused data pin on your PC (ie printer 
> port) and count the pulses. Or, if you want an RPM gauge, you 
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Re: [SLUG] Mail/exim? error: unknown local-part "mike.lake" in domain "uts.edu.au"

2001-05-10 Thread getadog

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
> I get the following error when I send mail internally either to others
> or to
> myself as in the headers below. The mail bounces with:
> unknown local-part "mike.lake" in domain "uts.edu.au"

It just so happens that I had a similar problem to you a few
days ago, I'm not stalking you :)

check your exim.conf file near the top for a line like:
qualify_domain = uts.edu.au

comment it out.

Then go down to near the bottom of the file to the REWRITE CONFIGURATION
section and change uts.edu.au to your local host.domain, and if you
haven't already, edit /etc/email-addresses. This step wasn't part of
your problem, but its a good thing to do IMHO.

> But mainly whats the error actually mean? Should the envelope or return

I think it will be made clear when you read the comments in the
exim.conf file, but basically when you send mail to a local address
(without a @host part to it), exim was adding @uts.edu.au and then
sending it to your smart host, rather than delivering it locally.

That was my problem anyway, yours sounds similar to mine.


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[SLUG] Task bar under KDE

2001-05-10 Thread Terry Collins

Umm, does anyone know how to get the taskbar in KDE back?

Rather, is their a keyboard way to invoke it?

I'm not actually sure it has gone, just not answering the
mouse-near-edge for it to pop up.

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[SLUG] Samba

2001-05-10 Thread Heracles

Thanks to all who replied. All versions of Windoze on the network can
now access and run the programs in all six CDs on the Linux Red Hat
server. I had forgotten to create an smbuser account - and I wasn't even
tipsy!

Stay well and happy
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RE: [SLUG] Task bar under KDE

2001-05-10 Thread Jill Rowling

I thought that was a SuSE strangeness...
Try moving the mouse slowly over another window edge to attract its
attention,
then go to where the task bar should pop out of.
Other than that, try the right mouse menu.

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> Umm, does anyone know how to get the taskbar in KDE back?
> 
> Rather, is their a keyboard way to invoke it?
> 
> I'm not actually sure it has gone, just not answering the
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[SLUG] Email, internet gateway.

2001-05-10 Thread Alister Waller

Hi,

I am having a small problem which should be easy to sort out by someone with
the know how.

I have three linux machines and a windows PC or two.

Each of the Linux machines run Redhat 6.2 and the windows PC is 98.

1.  is a  Linux machine and is a server for a software product that we
supply.
2.  is a linux machine on the same network and acts as in internet gateway,
email server (dialup connection) (works fine for all the PCs that use it for
internet and email)

3. is a linux machine at a remote site that I want to dial into number 1 and
act as a gateway for the windows PC to connect to our software (on 1) and
also to access email and the internet on number 2.

I currently have the windows PC dialing into number 1 and using our software
but by putting in a linux machine (3) I can then have two windows PC's using
the one dialup connection via 3 to access our software and also email and
the web. I know it would be slow but thats not the issue here.

OK. I have played around with routing a bit but am having a few problems
when it comes to one linux machine dialing into another and acting as a
gateway for email etc.

Does that all make sense??

anyway, if someone could help by giving me some tables showing ip addresses
and what routes should be set up on what machines I would very much
appreciate it. (just make up some ip addresses and I will adapt)

any static routes or the rest would be appreciated also.
I really don't have a clue how to do this.


I have set up a trial at work and can dial into the remote linux machine
from one linux machine and browse the web etc and from my PC I can ping the
linux machine but not the remote one.\\

thanks in advance

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Re: [SLUG] rEDHAT 7.2 cd's

2001-05-10 Thread Jon Biddell

On Wednesday 18 April 2001 15:25, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:22:18AM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Just wait until you try to install the sucker - that'll change your state
> > of mind !!!
>
> Elaborate please so I can make sure that I wont fall into a black hole (red
> hole??)

I will contact our resident geek in Melbourne (he's the one who tried it and 
said it was broken) and get details for you.

Jon

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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-10 Thread Rev Simon Rumble

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:06:23AM +1000, Del uttered:

> OK so that's rubbish and you know it is.  You can configure without
> X reasonably easily, and operate using all of the normal command
> line stuff.  That includes things like linuxconf, ntsysv, and even
> vi if you have to.

The RedHat 7 system I'm working on has linuxconf but there is no way
to configure ppp from inside that.  There used to be on RedHat but it
seems to have been removed and put into GUI tools.

Yes I could create my own scripts but that kind of defeats the purpose
of using a distribution, doesn't it.

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Re: [SLUG] Email, internet gateway.

2001-05-10 Thread Terry Collins

Alister Waller wrote:

It would have helped if you had said right at the beginning that you
were talking about two locations. Helps the mind get in focus.

Hmm, quick answer

I would set 1 & 2 as being on net 192.168.1.0, say ip 192.168.1 &
192.168.1.2

We will also use 192.168.1.3 as the IP to be allocated to the modem line
on 1

I would set 3 & PCs as being on 192.168.2.0, say ip
192.168.2.1/2/3/.

So gateway for all other PCs on 2nd network is 192.168.2.1 \, which is
three.

3 has a NET entry for 192.168.2.0 as its eth0 (192.168.2.1)
3's default routing entry is set up when it's ppp runs and will be the
IP given to it when it dials into 1, which will thus be 192.168.1.3

Now 1 can be set up a couple of ways. 
Set your default route to be 192.168.1.1
And you way to Net 192.168.2.0 to be 192.168.1.3

Netmask for everything is 255.255.255.0


 

> Hi,
> 
> I am having a small problem which should be easy to sort out by someone with
> the know how.
> 
> I have three linux machines and a windows PC or two.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-10 Thread Anand Kumria

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:09:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Does anyone know of any electronic voting software that is open source?
> 
> Anand mentioned something about this a while back, a new piece of the GNU
> Project.

GNU Free Referenda & Elections Electronically (FREE)

http://www.gnu.org/software/free/>

http://www.free-project.org/>

I'd be interested in hearing how/if this works for you.

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-10 Thread Terry Collins

Anand Kumria wrote:

> GNU Free Referenda & Elections Electronically (FREE)
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/free/>
> 
> http://www.free-project.org/>
> 
> I'd be interested in hearing how/if this works for you.

Thanks.

The first use is not a positive use as I want to stop them paying for
proprietary closed source software by showing that there is open source
software available to do this..

Then they are going to have to decide they want to actually do this. 

They are currently taking a survey on computer skills, which I can kinda
of predict already - lack of skills might kybosh the whole idea. Some of
the people haven't mastered the typewriter yet and the concept of a
contacts database in a computer is a totally foreign language. "Why
can't you keep it in a (paper) notebook?"

Then they are going to have to work out a way of uniquely identifying
each person and implement that. Umm, glaciers will move faster.

On the otherhand, it also has some linux geeks and is setting up a
structure of expert advisors. So we might be able to lever everything
towards open source.

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Re: [SLUG] rEDHAT 7.2 cd's

2001-05-10 Thread Greg Hosler

There is no RH 7.2; it is RH 7.1, and it is not that bad.

In general, I wouldn't consider it broken.

-Greg

On 18-Apr-01 Jon Biddell wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 April 2001 15:25, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:22:18AM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> > Just wait until you try to install the sucker - that'll change your state
>> > of mind !!!
>>
>> Elaborate please so I can make sure that I wont fall into a black hole (red
>> hole??)
> 
> I will contact our resident geek in Melbourne (he's the one who tried it and 
> said it was broken) and get details for you.
> 
> Jon
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[SLUG] Re: Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-10 Thread Angus Lees

\begin{Jobst Schmalenbach}
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> if($#ARGV lt 0 or $#ARGV gt 2) {
>   print "Usage: $^X sigfile [quotefile]\n";
>   exit 1;
> }
> # determine the quote
> if ($#ARGV eq 1) {
>   open (FI, "$ARGV[1]") or die "Can't open $ARGV[1]";
>   # count the quotes
>   $sig[0] = 0;
>   while() 
>   { 
>   $sig[$#sig + 1] = tell if /^$/; 
>   }
>   # read one
>   srand;
>   seek(FI, $sig[int rand ($#sig + .)], SEEK_SET) or die "Can't seek";
>   # seek(FI, $sig[0], SEEK_SET) or die "Can't seek";
>   $msg = ;
>   while () {
>   last if /^$/;
>   $msg .= $_;
>   }
> }
> open (SIG, "$ARGV[0]") or die "Can't open $ARGV[0]";
> while () {
>   $_ =~ s/%QUOTE%/$msg/; 
>   print "$_";
> }

ouch. you must right C code, right?  ;)

in the interests of code conservation:

#! /usr/bin/perl
open(TEMPLATE, shift) or die "Can't open template: $!\n";
{ local $/ = undef;  @sigs = split(/\n\n/s, <>); }
while() {
  s/%QUOTE%/$sigs[rand(@sigs)]/e;
  print;
}

if you take the template from stdin (which is probably a good idea),
then you can get rid of the open() line too.

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[SLUG] Re: outlook calender contacts substitute

2001-05-10 Thread Angus Lees

\begin{Alister Waller}
> Is there a substitute for using outlooks email, calender and contacts etc
> that would run on a windows PC but use a central linux server to hold the
> shared data?
> 
> In other words a nice (windows) client and linux server email/calender and
> contacts solution.
> 
> We cannot change the workstations over to Linux.

you can keep outlook on the clients and point them at Free IMAP, LDAP,
etc servers.

outlook is pretty good at complying with relevant standards (in
everything but email..)

(or was the intention to get rid of outlook?)

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Re: [SLUG] Video

2001-05-10 Thread Alan L Tyree

Thanks to Paul and Terry for useful stuff on the new videocam and my
(somewhat naive) questions. The camera does have a i.link connector so
I am off and running!

Thanks again,
Alan

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Re: [SLUG] Linux Electronic Voting Software

2001-05-10 Thread Anand Kumria

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 10:45:35PM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
> Anand Kumria wrote:
> 
> > GNU Free Referenda & Elections Electronically (FREE)
> > 
> > http://www.gnu.org/software/free/>
> > 
> > http://www.free-project.org/>
> > 
> > I'd be interested in hearing how/if this works for you.
> 
> Thanks.

Stumbled across another one last night as well.

Electronic Voting And Counting System

http://evacs.samba.org/>

Written in Australia for Election ACT apparently. Still in development.

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] RE: sendmail 8.9 and no DNS.. I know, I know, it's an oldie quest ion

2001-05-10 Thread Ian Ward

I have not done this with 8.9.X but try this.

remove all the spam checking stuff from the mc file.

Try the following (these are instructions from an old SCO tech support
article)

Edit the sendmail.cf  (I know yeach...),
ensure the OI entry in the OPTIONS section is
OI-DNSRCH

Create a new section:
# Service.Switch to eliminate DNS lookups
O Service.SwitchFile=/etc/service.switch

create a /etc/service.switch file (chmod 644'd) with the following one line:
hosts files

As I said these are old instructions but they may work.
PS> How are you doing the relay?
I hope you are doing it thus:
in mailertable:
domainname.com.austmp:[relayhost]

The square brackets should eliminate DNS resolution.

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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Dave Fitch

On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 05:52:00PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > while there's a spate of mutt questions...
> > how can I set a different outgoing email address for
> > different mailing lists?
> 
> folder-hook or send-hook as appropriate.

ok thanks, folder-hook is the one, but...
I've had to stop postfix setting the From/Sender header (was set
in the canonical file) but mutt doesn't seem to set those fields.

My .muttrc has (ignoring the folder-hook bit for a minute):
set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my_hdr Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

But trying to send email outside my system gives the error:
May 11 09:04:30 spiral postfix/pickup[17044]: BF4791A093: uid=1000 from=
May 11 09:04:30 spiral postfix/cleanup[17057]: BF4791A093: 
message-id=<20010511090430.A17069@spiral>
May 11 09:04:30 spiral postfix/qmgr[17045]: BF4791A093: from=, size=550 
(queue active)
May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/smtp[17059]: BF4791A093: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133], delay=1, status=bounced (host 
mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133] said: 501 5.1.8 ... Domain of 
sender address davidf@spiral does not exist)
May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/cleanup[17057]: 81E111A094: 
message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/qmgr[17045]: 81E111A094: from=<>, size=1842 (queue 
active)
May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/local[17061]: 81E111A094: to=, 
relay=local, delay=0, status=sent ("|/usr/bin/procmail")

Now is it referring to the Sender or From header? (note: "Reply-To:"
and "From:" get set ok just not "From" (without the colon) and "Sender").
cos in the example email they're both "davidf@spiral" and no matter
what I set in my .muttrc I can't get them set to anything else.

A related annoying thing is that hitting reply (in mutt) to my own
test message comes up with davidf@spiral in the To header - meaning
even if these emails did get out, people wouldn't be able to reply.

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Re: [SLUG] Mail/exim? error: unknown local-part "mike.lake" in domain "uts.edu.au"

2001-05-10 Thread Mike Lake

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 07:09:56PM +1000, getadog wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 02:52:39PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote:
> > I get the following error when I send mail internally either to others
> > or to
> > myself as in the headers below. The mail bounces with:
> > unknown local-part "mike.lake" in domain "uts.edu.au"
> It just so happens that I had a similar problem to you a few
> days ago, I'm not stalking you :)
> 
> check your exim.conf file near the top for a line like:
> qualify_domain = uts.edu.au
> comment it out.

OK Have now done that. 
 
> Then go down to near the bottom of the file to the REWRITE CONFIGURATION
> section and change uts.edu.au to your local host.domain, and if you

OK I find there the following:
*@uts.edu.au${lookup{$1}lsearch{/etc/email-addresses}\
{$value}fail} bcfrF

and in email-addresses currently I have 
#user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#otheruser: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Um my domain is chem.uts.edu.au and my machine name is say A123
would I set *@uts.edu.au instead to:
*@chem.uts.edu.au ?

Local delivery would be to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but what about
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is that local? 
I'm not sure what to put in place of *@uts.edu.au 

> haven't already, edit /etc/email-addresses. This step wasn't part of
> your problem, but its a good thing to do IMHO.

and would I put in email-addresses
mikel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ie exim will lookup local user mikel and use email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ?

> > But mainly whats the error actually mean? Should the envelope or return
> 
> I think it will be made clear when you read the comments in the
> exim.conf file, but basically when you send mail to a local address
> (without a @host part to it), exim was adding @uts.edu.au and then
> sending it to your smart host, rather than delivering it locally.
Netscape settings are to deliver outgoing via the outgoing mail (smtp) server 
"postoffice.uts.edu.au" 
At present this is not set anywhere in my exim.conf

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Re: [SLUG] Non-GUI ppp configuration for RedHat?

2001-05-10 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:34:38PM +0100, Rev Simon Rumble ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:06:23AM +1000, Del uttered:
> 
> > OK so that's rubbish and you know it is.  You can configure without
> > X reasonably easily, and operate using all of the normal command
> > line stuff.  That includes things like linuxconf, ntsysv, and even
> > vi if you have to.
> 
> The RedHat 7 system I'm working on has linuxconf but there is no way
> to configure ppp from inside that.  There used to be on RedHat but it
> seems to have been removed and put into GUI tools.

RH is trying to make LINUX accessible to a broader range of people
and I think they doing a reasonable good job (note that you cant make
it perfect for everybody).

> 
> Yes I could create my own scripts but that kind of defeats the purpose
> of using a distribution, doesn't it.

I disagree.
Windze has the problem that administring a machine is by bloody point
and click *ONLY* (if you use it out off the box). You got to buy all this additional 
tools to be able to administer an entire network, and if you dont install
perl (which you need to download) you have NO chance of doing it properly.


I can configure a complete set of RH machines *EASILY* without the need to buy
any additional tools and or the need to install anything else.
And yes, it involves using emacs/vi, *BUT I CAN*!

And you no what? You are faster doing it this way than with the GUI apps.
But it involves you need to know  but thats again the beauty of the HOWTOS.


With RH you have the choice of running X or NOT; at least you have a choice!
With Windooze you have not.


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Re: [SLUG] Re: Mutt and setting pithy single line quotes in sig :-)

2001-05-10 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:17:53AM +1000, Angus Lees ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> \begin{Jobst Schmalenbach}

[snip]

> ouch. you must right C code, right?  ;)

ouch. and you speak English? ;-)


As I said in a previous email this was written with people in mind
who do not have real perl qualities plus some error checking and display 
so they can debug it themselves. I knwow you can do it in a four liner.


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[SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?

2001-05-10 Thread Russell Davies

This is probably a FAQ here -- but can anyone recommend a non-NVIDIA
graphics card that has 2d _and_ 3d dri capabilities in XFree 4.0.3?

Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :)

cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Jeff Waugh

Okay, I'll answer all these bits separately...



> ok thanks, folder-hook is the one, but...
> I've had to stop postfix setting the From/Sender header (was set
> in the canonical file) but mutt doesn't seem to set those fields.

Indeed it does. :)

> My .muttrc has (ignoring the folder-hook bit for a minute):
> set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> my_hdr Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sender won't help much, but certainly don't set Reply-To... Leave it to
yourself to set manually when you want replies sent to a specific address.

Example: When we post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, we usually set our
Reply-To to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so conversation continues there, and we don't
have to moderate all the replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from broken mail
clients) out.

> But trying to send email outside my system gives the error:

That's because your problem is more complicated than it seems. :)

> May 11 09:04:30 spiral postfix/qmgr[17045]: BF4791A093:
> from=, size=550 (queue active)

Here is the problem; the envelope of your email is being set to
davidf@spiral. The envelope is very different to the From: header (which is
just human readable gumph).

> May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/smtp[17059]: BF4791A093:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133],
> delay=1, status=bounced (host mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133] said:
> 501 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address davidf@spiral does
> not exist)

Because spiral is not a recognised host, OptusNet (smartly, for once) drop
your mail on the floor. You are not yet a real machine with a real name...

> Now is it referring to the Sender or From header? (note: "Reply-To:"
> and "From:" get set ok just not "From" (without the colon) and "Sender").
> cos in the example email they're both "davidf@spiral" and no matter
> what I set in my .muttrc I can't get them set to anything else.

Exactly. The "From (without the colon)" is your envelope address, and must
be set accordingly.

If you have a real world recognisable name, you can use it in the "myorigin"
setting in postfix (which defaults to $myhostname.$mydomain). If you don't,
you can set this to your isp's hostname (leaving your own myhostname and
mydomain intact).

"However, it's not that simple."

If you do that, all of your mail will be sent out with the envelope set to
your isp's hostname, and with postfix, it means that everything will be
rewritten thus. Think... root@spiral -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not good.

So, you need to mangle the transport for at least a few addresses. root,
hostmaster, postmaster, etc. Plus any other local accounts. The
documentation at postfix.org is really good. Great, even. First thing to
read is the postfix anatomy, then get into the configuration stuff.

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Re: [SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?

2001-05-10 Thread Jeff Waugh



> This is probably a FAQ here -- but can anyone recommend a non-NVIDIA
> graphics card that has 2d _and_ 3d dri capabilities in XFree 4.0.3?

Matrox G400 (my G450 isn't going yet, so I can't recommend that).

If you have an awesome monitor, you should have a card worthy of running it.

> Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :)

Um. I haven't got a credit card, so I don't know this stuff. Yeah.

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[SLUG] pppd over null modem cable?

2001-05-10 Thread Joshua Burvill

Hi all,

Basically when I run pppd on both machines I dont get an interface,
ie `ifconfig -a' doesnt show any ppp ifaces

According to the PPP howto it is very easy, but alas

pc1   /dev/ttyS0 |===| /dev/ttyS0   pc2
 null-modem cable

Test connectivity:  run  getty -L 38400 /dev/ttyS0  on pc2
run  minicomon pc1 
 with appropriate options set
--> get a login -- OK

remove getty, try to set up pppd:

on pc1  /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
 192.168.101.3:192.168.101.4 /dev/ttyS0 38400
on pc2 /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
 192.168.101.4:192.168.101.3 /dev/ttyS0 38400

(and many variations on this...)

Only get like:

May 11 10:25:44 debian0 pppd[678]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0

I think I should see like:

May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0
May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: Using interface ppp0
   
May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/3
   ^
May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: Connection terminated.
May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: Exit.

which is just the log from just `pppd' in an xterm

So I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction?

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Re: [SLUG] IMAP Question

2001-05-10 Thread Jeff Waugh



> Given imap's apparent lack of configuration (for anything), how does it 
> know which directory to get my mail from [ //var/spool/mail//].

I'm assuming you're using 'imapd', which is the horrible, disgusting, evil
creation that makes a mockery of mail users and admins everywhere... right?

That's where it gets its mail from, full stop. It's the Way.

> Is this one of those programs that needs to be configured in the source 
> code ?

Kinda. Just say no. Use Courier IMAP instead, and leave mbox and imapd
behind. Remember, Cookie the Kookaburra says: IT'S OKAY TO SAY NO.

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[SLUG] One floppy Linux Presentation System

2001-05-10 Thread Terry Collins

Hello Folks

I need to do a 20 minute presentation and I've been graciously offered
Powerpoint - nuff said!

I'm thinking that I would like to be able to waltz in with a floppy
Linux and run a linux presentation.

So I'm wondering if anyone has already done this and would share what
they used and how they did it.

I know of I nice little text based presentation tool, but some line
drawing would be idea.

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Re: [SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?

2001-05-10 Thread Dean Hamstead

ati radeon

Dean

Russell Davies wrote:

> This is probably a FAQ here -- but can anyone recommend a non-NVIDIA
> graphics card that has 2d _and_ 3d dri capabilities in XFree 4.0.3?
> 
> Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :)
> 
> cheers,
>   r.
> 
> 



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Re: [SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?

2001-05-10 Thread Bevan Broun

> > Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :)

try http://www.cetustech.com.au



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Re: [SLUG] One floppy Linux Presentation System

2001-05-10 Thread Jeff Waugh



> I'm thinking that I would like to be able to waltz in with a floppy
> Linux and run a linux presentation.

Does it have to be a floppy? The X setup on the most recent version of the
Linuxcare BBC (1.5something on their website last I looked) is great. Run
ekepoint on that, and you'll have chins on floors and umbrellas on
chandeliers.

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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh said:
>If you do that, all of your mail will be sent out with the envelope set to
>your isp's hostname, and with postfix, it means that everything will be
>rewritten thus. Think... root@spiral -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not good.

Thinking laterally; exim has an /etc/email-addresses file, which
contains lines like thus:

jaq: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Exim reads this file, and mangles outgoing mail accordingly, so all my
messages which would have gone out as jaq@willow go out as you would
expect them to.

I'm just wondering if postfix has a similar option, rather than setting
the lot to come from your ISP and having to set up special rules for
system accounts.

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Re: [SLUG] which (non-nvidia) graphics card?

2001-05-10 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Russell Davies said:
>This is probably a FAQ here -- but can anyone recommend a non-NVIDIA
>graphics card that has 2d _and_ 3d dri capabilities in XFree 4.0.3?

matrox g400max, online at eyo.com.au.  or auspcmarket.com.au

>Bonus points for suggesting a cheap place online to purchase one. :)

dunno about cheap, tho :)

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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Jamie Wilkinson said:
>Exim reads this file, and mangles outgoing mail accordingly, so all my
>messages which would have gone out as jaq@willow go out as you would
>expect them to.

And for some reason, my reply-to address broke in that last mail; good
ol' finagles law.

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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Jeff Waugh



> And for some reason, my reply-to address broke in that last mail; good
> ol' finagles law.

Haha. Willow. That's one of my machine's names. (I think we've been through
this before.) Only, now it's a Windows machine. It too is poopie.

Anyway, yes, I was going to mention that it's easier in exim. Postfix has
transport_maps, which lets you do something similar, though not quite as
perky-rewrite-change-my-email-computer-is-smarter.

You can set which addresses are explicitly delivered with the local
transport.

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Re: [SLUG] different from address for different lists?

2001-05-10 Thread Dave Fitch

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 12:34:23PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> Okay, I'll answer all these bits separately...
> 
> > ok thanks, folder-hook is the one, but...
> > I've had to stop postfix setting the From/Sender header (was set
> > in the canonical file) but mutt doesn't seem to set those fields.
> 
> Indeed it does. :)

you sure? how?
I can set Sender: in .muttrc but that's not how the
email appears when it comes back and I can't set From (no colon)
at all (they're the 2 I'm talking about).
 
> > My .muttrc has (ignoring the folder-hook bit for a minute):
> > set [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > my_hdr Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sender won't help much, but certainly don't set Reply-To... Leave it to
> yourself to set manually when you want replies sent to a specific address.
> 
> Example: When we post to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, we usually set our
> Reply-To to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so conversation continues there, and we don't
> have to moderate all the replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (from broken mail
> clients) out.

well it's just a sort of default value, I can change it before
I send the email if I want something different,  not really
part of the problem though.
 
> > But trying to send email outside my system gives the error:
> 
> That's because your problem is more complicated than it seems. :)

it seemed pretty complicated to me, so I thought either I was
missing something or it is complicated, I was hoping it was
the former
 
> > May 11 09:04:30 spiral postfix/qmgr[17045]: BF4791A093:
> > from=, size=550 (queue active)
> 
> Here is the problem; the envelope of your email is being set to
> davidf@spiral. The envelope is very different to the From: header (which is
> just human readable gumph).

I know and it's the envelope From (or Sender, but I think it's From)
that optus looks at (hence the problem)
 
> > May 11 09:04:31 spiral postfix/smtp[17059]: BF4791A093:
> > to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133],
> > delay=1, status=bounced (host mail2.optusnet.com.au[203.2.75.133] said:
> > 501 5.1.8 ... Domain of sender address davidf@spiral does
> > not exist)
> 
> Because spiral is not a recognised host, OptusNet (smartly, for once) drop
> your mail on the floor. You are not yet a real machine with a real name...

yes that's all fine (and I agree it is unusual on optus' part!)
 
> > Now is it referring to the Sender or From header? (note: "Reply-To:"
> > and "From:" get set ok just not "From" (without the colon) and "Sender").
> > cos in the example email they're both "davidf@spiral" and no matter
> > what I set in my .muttrc I can't get them set to anything else.
> 
> Exactly. The "From (without the colon)" is your envelope address, and must
> be set accordingly.

exactly, that's the tricky bit!
(see my original question I asked)
 
> If you have a real world recognisable name, you can use it in the "myorigin"
> setting in postfix (which defaults to $myhostname.$mydomain). If you don't,
> you can set this to your isp's hostname (leaving your own myhostname and
> mydomain intact).
> 
> "However, it's not that simple."
> 
> If you do that, all of your mail will be sent out with the envelope set to
> your isp's hostname, and with postfix, it means that everything will be
> rewritten thus. Think... root@spiral -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not good.
> 
> So, you need to mangle the transport for at least a few addresses. root,
> hostmaster, postmaster, etc. Plus any other local accounts. The
> documentation at postfix.org is really good. Great, even. First thing to
> read is the postfix anatomy, then get into the configuration stuff.

that's all well and good and is what I have been happily doing until
now (again see my original post, I described this).  The problem is
doing all this stuff is in postfix, not mutt, which means I
cannot change it automatically every time I want to use a different
email address (without changing postfix's config, as root, and
restarting it every time I go into a specific mutt mailbox and
want a different email address to appear in the mail headers).

But you seem to be saying in your last paragraph that I have to
set it in postfix as well?  but how does postfix know which
mailbox I'm in?  it doesn't, can I make postfix set a different
>From depending on the From: header or something? is that what
you're saying?

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Re: [SLUG] pppd over null modem cable?

2001-05-10 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 12:48:18PM +1000, Joshua Burvill uttered:
> Hi all,
> 
> Basically when I run pppd on both machines I dont get an interface,
> ie `ifconfig -a' doesnt show any ppp ifaces
> 
> According to the PPP howto it is very easy, but alas
> 
> pc1   /dev/ttyS0 |===| /dev/ttyS0   pc2
>  null-modem cable
> 
> Test connectivity:  run  getty -L 38400 /dev/ttyS0  on pc2
> run  minicomon pc1 
>with appropriate options set
>   --> get a login -- OK
>
UGH, SLIP/PPP over Null-Modem.

> remove getty, try to set up pppd:
> 
> on pc1  /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
>  192.168.101.3:192.168.101.4 /dev/ttyS0 38400
> on pc2 /usr/sbin/pppd noauth crtscts lock \
>  192.168.101.4:192.168.101.3 /dev/ttyS0 38400
> 
> (and many variations on this...)
> 
> Only get like:
> 
> May 11 10:25:44 debian0 pppd[678]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0
> 
> I think I should see like:
> 
> May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0
> May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: Using interface ppp0
>
> May 11 10:15:01 debian0 pppd[652]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/3
>^
> May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests 
> May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: Connection terminated.
> May 11 10:15:31 debian0 pppd[652]: Exit.
> 
> which is just the log from just `pppd' in an xterm
> 
> So I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction?
>
Run 'pppconfig' and set up a new connection using /dev/ttyS0, 38400,
etc. Although, I have no idea what you can put for the phone number
:-)
Although, if it's null modem, it'd be easier using slip, no?

> - Josh
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Re: [SLUG] One floppy Linux Presentation System

2001-05-10 Thread Steve Kowalik

On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:15:25PM +1000, Jeff Waugh uttered:
> 
> 
> > I'm thinking that I would like to be able to waltz in with a floppy
> > Linux and run a linux presentation.
> 
> Does it have to be a floppy? The X setup on the most recent version of the
> Linuxcare BBC (1.5something on their website last I looked) is great. Run
> ekepoint on that, and you'll have chins on floors and umbrellas on
> chandeliers.
>
Ouch, you would indeed.
Oh, and it's version 1.6 :-)
I _think_ it uses blackbox as the default WindowManager, so you'll
already have blank stares before you start ekepoint. (And if you're
running late, you can run the evas_test and dazzle them into
submission.)

And, a thought occurs. Won't Terry have to compile and install ecore,
evas, eke(magic|point) every time, since it's a CD?

> - Jeff
> 

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Re: [SLUG] One floppy Linux Presentation System

2001-05-10 Thread Jeffrey Borg


> And, a thought occurs. Won't Terry have to compile and install ecore,
> evas, eke(magic|point) every time, since it's a CD?

You could always rebuild the cd with what you want on it, The BBC cd's are
an excellent starting point for doing that.



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Re: [SLUG] One floppy Linux Presentation System

2001-05-10 Thread Matthew Dalton

Jeffrey Borg wrote:
> 
> > And, a thought occurs. Won't Terry have to compile and install ecore,
> > evas, eke(magic|point) every time, since it's a CD?
> 
> You could always rebuild the cd with what you want on it, The BBC cd's are
> an excellent starting point for doing that.

Yeah... the BBC is based on Debian, and we all know how Terry loves
Debian :)

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[SLUG] Debian SIG Initial Meeting Details

2001-05-10 Thread Craige McWhirter

-- Resent Due to Issues with the UTS Network --

Okay, I finally got around to it. I've found a venue that suited my idea
of a good venue, the SIG can pass judgement on it after the first meeting

;)

Here are the gritty details:

Where: Woolloomooloo Bay Hotel - boardroom (upstairs)
When: Wednesday, 16th May 19:00
Cost: $0, 
  $10 if you pre-order tea/coffee
Misc: Dinner, alcohol are available
Fasc: Boardroom, power, whiteboard - possibly a TV

Agenda:
There is none yet, except for those interested to come along and work
out what they would like to see the SIG do. Ah, and decide whether the
venue/time/day of week are the most suitable.

I'd also like to call for anyone interested in giving a 30min talk on
something Debian related. After recent discussions, "Becoming a Debian
Maintainer" may be a good initial one ;)

A penny for all your thoughts and ideas. 

I hope to see as many of you there as possible :)

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[SLUG] RE: More Video

2001-05-10 Thread D.V.Rogers

Alan wrote;
>Hi,
>I have recently acquired a digital videocam and want to do some
>capture/editing.

>I have the VCR-HOWTO that seems to give basic capture info, but it
seems to me that that must be analogue signals.

>Anything special I need to know to do some basic editing, etc? What
>connections and software am I looking for?

>Also grateful for any info on sending video images to US relos that
>need to see it on NTSC systems.

Paul Haddon and Terry Collins posted good detailed info re:Digital Video.
I have done alot of Digital Video with Premiere on  W$. Back then using a
AMDK6400, 128ram and 20GB drive. Was pretty successful but mostly resulting in
in fairly low res mpeg movies, some can be found at: 
http://allshookup.org/mpgvideo/mpegvideo.htm

Now a Linux user I am hoping to run Video on a Linux box sometime in the future
when I get the current line of work under control.

An good article in Linux Journal Jan 2001 about "Broadcast 2000" (Linux App)
is a pretty good intro into the highs and lows of video editing with Linux. Im
sure if you search +Linux +Journal +Video you are likely to find the article.

>From experience a good video card is worthwhile but $$$. Important to research
video card drivers for linux unless you want to attempt to write one (Search
sourceforge.net for generic firewire card drivers) A fire wire card is the go
and affordable these days, firewire captures well and you can print to dv
stream mastering back to digital camcorder. You then make copies to VHS from
camera unless you have a card with RCA outputs to VCR. 
IMPORTANT to research what kind of capture settings you need, I think from
memory full screen digital video is something like 768x576 pixels (check this).
Analogue video is something 320x240 pixels...

WEB RESOURCES:
Broadcast 2000
http://heroinewarrior.com/
Firewire Patches
http://linux1394.sourceforge.net
Video4Linux
http://www.thedirks.org/v412
Linux Media Arts
http://linuxmediarts.com/

Good Luck and let me know how video with Linux  goes?

--David


The Seismonitor Project
www.allshookup.org/research/seisindx.htm
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
D.V.Rogers



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