Re: [SLUG] Managing software across a cluster
Hi all, thanks for the suggestions, they were awesome. Since writing that email Puppet has been suggested to me as well, though I will go look into all the suggestions. Another option I am looking at is Spacewalk, which I may end up going with as I just found out that some other Redhat servers around here are managed with Satellite. Thanks again, always get great suggestions here. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Managing software across a cluster
Hi all, I have just rolled out a Scientific Linux (Redhat clone) cluster of 20 nodes plus controller that runs torque for batching and uses a lot of MPI. My problem is that I periodically get asked to include some library or program to help out with some ones research code, and often it is something that needs to be installed across all nodes. On my Mageia cluster I simply run urpmi parallel, issue the one command and it installs across all nodes. For those not familiar with urpmi parallel, it queries all the nodes asking what rpms are needed to install the given software (including all dependencies), it then downloads all the rpms to the machine running urpmi, it then pushes the appropriate rpms to each node and installs them. Is there anything like this for Scientific Linux (RHEL) and Yum ?? The closest thing I have seen so far is clusterssh, but its not really the same as each node has to download from the repository. clusterssh is a general tool for parallel shells. I am using a Redhat clone for a number of reasons, the largest being I was told to and don't really have choice in the matter, so no chance of changing distros. Scientific Linux was easy to configure and everything seems to work quite well, so I am quite happy with the distro except for the lack of a urpmi parallel type tool. Any suggestions ?? cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Freedom loving Motherboard
Hi all, Thank you for your suggestions, I have looked at the motherboards suggested which put me on to the path of finding one I can live with. Gerald pointed me to the Asus M5A97 which is probably the board I liked best (or an upgrade to the M5A99X-EVO**), however it is not explicitly listed as being a supported board for coreboot. I imagine it will be be supported soon, but I don't want to risk it so looks like I will be going with its little brother the Asus M5A88-M which appears to be a slightly less capable version, but has full coreboot support. So basically it seems I have fulfilled everything I want, perhaps not out of the box, but after a quick flash, I should be able to completely avoid the secure boot crap, and have a full system of freedom loving software. The board comes with onboard ati graphics, so it will also mean I can put off buying the graphics card for a couple of weeks too :-) Now I just need a solid opencl implementation in the free driver and I am set. There is still a small chance I may choose the more capable board and hope it makes the coreboot list soon, still not 100% decided, but leaning towards the M5A88-M for day 1 Coreboot. Oh, and to Michael, I thought yahoo bought Zimbra so they can run open source mail servers :-P You are right though, I plan to run my own mail server, but need a freedom loving motherboard to run it on :-D Cheers Tuxta On 19/07/12 14:10, Steven Tucker wrote: Hi all, an update on where I am at. Interestingly the easiest way to find a freedom loving computer, is actually with this laptop http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html Meets all requirements, apparently it is the laptop Richard Stallman uses. However, while I will likely get one in the future, I am still after a good desktop machine. I have come to the conclusion that I won't get a free bios, but I can select a motherboard that is reported to work well with Coreboot, and flash it myself. There are a number of boards that both meet my technical needs, and also support Coreboot, the problem is that I am still going through the components to determine what they need. While I do want to support AMD, it is looking like it will be easier going the Intel path, as the motherboards that support AMD seem to have more a of a mish-mash of components. Anyway, just an update. I'll let you know how I go, and what compromises I end up making if I have to make them. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Freedom loving Motherboard
Hi all, an update on where I am at. Interestingly the easiest way to find a freedom loving computer, is actually with this laptop http://www.lemote.com/en/products/Notebook/2010/0310/112.html Meets all requirements, apparently it is the laptop Richard Stallman uses. However, while I will likely get one in the future, I am still after a good desktop machine. I have come to the conclusion that I won't get a free bios, but I can select a motherboard that is reported to work well with Coreboot, and flash it myself. There are a number of boards that both meet my technical needs, and also support Coreboot, the problem is that I am still going through the components to determine what they need. While I do want to support AMD, it is looking like it will be easier going the Intel path, as the motherboards that support AMD seem to have more a of a mish-mash of components. Anyway, just an update. I'll let you know how I go, and what compromises I end up making if I have to make them. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Freedom loving Motherboard
On 17/07/12 12:24, James Linder wrote: Tuxta utter crap. Really?? Doesn't seem gentle and without being rude. Just stating you are not rude does not make it so. Appears very much like you are taking it personally that my values are different from yours, therefore I am wrong/deceived/bragging. Saying things such as "If you were really so passionate ... " *is* flamebait, and *is* rude. If you want to sit locked in your dark tower crying freedom then don't install anything you dont like on any mother board you choose. Partially correct. I will indeed sit in my dark tower crying freedom and not install anything I don't like, and I don't see how you have the right to deny me of (or ridicule me for) that but I was hoping there may be hardware that would also work while I sit in my tower. I was hoping I could have a functioning machine while not enabling non-free repositories. I guess you can't help there. I also am not forcing you to do the same, nor at any point did I suggest you shouldn't hold your own values, or that you were wrong, so I don't understand your need to push your ideas onto me. Redhat make this easy to do and CentOS follows them. So do other distro's, and that is what will allow me the right to sit in my dark tower. I won't be installing binary blobs or non-free software, not sure why you think that is crap, I guess our personal choices are different. If you were really so passionate about your feelings then methinks you'd not need to ask such silly questions. Clearly you are not being rude or stirring flames! I am passionate. Not sure why the question is silly. Does anyone know of hardware that will allow me to sit in my dark tower and only use the software I "choose" to? While the reason for the question may be based on a philosophical view, the question itself is purely technical, Is there hardware that will let me run my choice of software? If you are seeking bragging rights, then just install CentOS and proclaim how noble you are. Actually I was wondering if there was a motherboard that worked with only free software. Bragging doesn't actually come into it. But thank you for making me feel like an outcast here because I choose free software (not the forum I expected this to happen). Obviously you don't feel strongly about licensing, but that doesn't mean I am some sort of freak, or attention seeker because I do. I cannot believe but to think that you are deceived, this is supposed to be fun, not an onerous chore. Again, no flames here! I also find it interesting that the *only* conclusion you can come to is that I am deceived. To me it *is* fun, I just need a little help. James, you are entitled to your opinion, it would be nice if you respected my same right, rather than ridicule and degrade it. Your email provided no solution, suggestion or insight whatsoever. You simply took offence that I choose not to run software that you are happy to run. If you have nothing real to offer other than telling me that my beliefs are wrong, perhaps a better tactic would be to simply ignore my email. I find it quite disturbing that asking a question on how to support my use of Free Software on the SLUG mailing lists results in such a dismissive and condescending reply. I am sure your sentiments are not that of the wider SLUG community, if I am wrong on that count I really have over stayed my welcome. I will not continue this conversation with you, I don't think anyone here would appreciate it, so if you feel the need to have the last word, go for it, I will not be responding. If anyone has any suggestions on motherboards I would love to hear from you. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Freedom loving Motherboard
Hi all, I am in search of a beast which I am not sure even exists. I am after a motherboard with AM3+ socket, coreboot and no components that require proprietary drivers. The main thing is that I want to run only Free Software, with no compromise (I don't care if my graphics aren't as good, I want freedom), and will be running an AMD card. It's not that I haven't been googleing or trying to get the info myself, but I seem to suck at it. If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 12.04 wierdness
On 05/06/12 12:46, Ashley wrote: I am still having an odd problem with my setup. When I start up my system (Athalon ii X4, 8GB, Ubuntu 12.04) it will always connect to my modem/router but sometimes it refuses to connect to the internet. I know that the net is working as my other computers will happily connect to the net using my wireless lan and what makes it even more wierd is that: a. If I boot my computer using PCLinuxOS it connects to the lan and works perfectly every time, b. My laptop ( i3 4GB ACER) runs on Ubuntu 12.04 and always connects without a problem. My laptop and desktop have identical setups (barring the appropriate drivers for their devices). As my desktop will talk to the router I assume the problem must be in the way that they communicate but am having trouble finding the problem as it seems to fix itself randomly. The problem did not exist with earlier versions of Ubuntu. Heracles Could be DNS. Try setting the DNS servers manually, not to the address of your router. You can do this in the network settings of your machine having issues, or you can set your router to give the actual DNS server addresses when handing out addresses in DHCP rather than the router address and passing through to DNS servers. This is an issue I have encountered in the past, so is worth a go. Ultimately the best solution is to use Mageia for everything, always :-P Let the distro wars begin :-) Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3
Those who forget history are bound to repeat it. People complained the same way in the transition from GNOME 1 to GNOME 2, and everyone eventually agreed it was better. Anyone here still using GNOME 1 and GTK 1.2? Funny you should say that. I have an old machine I keep around just for nostalgia sake. I booted into Redhat 7.1 (dual boots with Redhat 9) the other day just for kicks. I was thinking that the environment was quite good, I would much rather run gnome 1 over gnome 3 any day. Asking who runs gnome1 and gtk 1.2 does not prove anything, I love gnome2 but abandoned it because it is now legacy code, I would be quite happy with gnome1 but no software is written for it any longer. Another interesting thing is, one of my observations is that gnome 3 seems to be implementing many things that *have* been tried before and failed/reverted, so perhaps it is gnome that is repeating history (the bad bits) rather than the users. Gnomes whole spacial fiasco was just a prelude to what was to come ( spacial was not good in win95, so lets put it in gnome!! ) Food for thought, from an ex gnome fanboy. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Alternatives to Gnome3
On 12/11/11 20:21, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Hi all, I just upgraded my debian testing laptop and found myself running Gnome3. I was quite happy with Gnome2 (with a few minor tweaks) but Gnome3 is completely abysmal. Can anyone recommend an alternative? Something simple and minimal without too much ugly. Sorry I can't stand tiling WMs either. Cheers, Erik I have been on Ubuntu since Hoary (dabbled with Warty), and used gnome on Fedora before that and on Redhat before that, so I have been a gnome2 user for quite some time. I saw the writing on the wall back in April with the introduction of Unity as the default install. It was not a secret that the next version was going to be Unity so I started to look at alternatives, I didn't want be forced into a change after a bad upgrade experience. Well gnome3 was the first logical choice to look at ... so moving on then, gnome3 is ridiculous. I tried a few different Desktop Environments, Xfce, LXDE, ice and a couple of others I can't remember the names of. They are nice and have the basics, but always felt incomplete, seemed far behind windows and mac desktop which I normally look down on with a smug expression. So I tried KDE, only reason it wasn't higher on the list was because of the disaster that was the first "stable" release of KDE4. Turns out it is now very usable, feature rich and stable. It is a shame they released such a buggy version to begin with, as people who would like it now are still turned off by past experiences (I think this may be the case with Linus). So to all those that don't like Unity or Gnome3, give KDE another look. Onc point of clarification -- I dont mean try Kubuntu, I don't know what they do, but it's broken and makes KDE look bad, I would recommend Mandriva 2011 as that is what I migrated to and absolutely love it (never thought I would say that), the more I use it the more I like it, but openSUSE also does a good job of KDE (I have other issues with it). I never thought I would leave gnome, and I never thought I would leave apt-get (urpmi is awesome and even has some features I never saw in apt), but there we have it. I'm so happy with KDE now that I no longer miss gnome2. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Clustering weirdness
Hi all, got a problem with my cluster using OpenMPI + Torque+ Maui. I can submit 50 different jobs (single process) and the batching system will run all 50 in parallel, but I cant get an MPI job to run on more that 1 node. I assumed it must be my pbs script, but I have tried just about every config I can find/think of and still no luck. pbsnodes -a produces the following, but all the way up to 16 nodes and the second half are quad cores, just showing the first 2 for brevity. tuxta@WPCluster:~$ pbsnodes -a WPCluster.workstation.griffith.edu.au state = free np = 4 ntype = cluster status = rectime=1321274238,varattr=,jobs=,state=free,netload=87819550163,gres=,loadave=0.00,ncpus=4,physmem=4047980kb,availmem=11466240kb,totmem=11860068kb,idletime=1574,nusers=1,nsessions=1,sessions=27627,uname=Linux WPCluster 2.6.32-34-server #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 20:54:38 UTC 2011 x86_64,opsys=linux node02 state = free np = 2 ntype = cluster status = rectime=1321274239,varattr=,jobs=,state=free,netload=191116409,gres=,loadave=0.00,ncpus=2,physmem=1021584kb,availmem=8642904kb,totmem=8832648kb,idletime=2258,nusers=0,nsessions=? 15201,sessions=? 15201,uname=Linux node02 2.6.32-34-server #77-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 13 20:54:38 UTC 2011 x86_64,opsys=linux The following file works fine when nodes=1, but when I make nodes=2 it never runs, just keeps a state of E rather than R #!/bin/bash #PBS -N Hello_Test #PBS -l nodes=2:ppn=4 cd $PBS_O_WORKDIR mpiexec -np 8 hello Not sure what other info is helpful so don't want to put heaps of stuff here, if any more info is needed just let me know. Does anyone have any ideas? Regards Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: mobile broadband enabling
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:38:43 +0100 Richard Ibbotson wrote: > I always find that if I'm using mobile broadband it's a good idea to > install the wi-fi stuff as well. There's a lot of USB drivers in the > versions of Linux that he's using. Should work. Just the version of > the USB hardware that might cause some issues but that should work. In my experience, Network Manager tends to work with USB mobile broadband devices as well. Since that's the default networking interface in most distros and James mentioned that he is new to computers, it would be far easier for him to try that first and post any specific problems to the list. Learning can come later, when he's not frustrated with trying to get his hardware to work. I strongly agree that the output of 'lsusb -v' is necessary to give anything more than general advice, though. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
Hi Dmitry, You do bring up some valid points. I was a Debian user for a very long time mainly due to the very wide range of packages, unmatched by any other distro I tried (I have all my servers running Debian or Ubuntu LTS, including an academic computing cluster). I am though, almost totally Distro agnostic. If it's GNU/Linux it will be familiar enough not to get in the way of doing stuff, and there will be a way to get what I want, it basically just comes down to the amount of effort. I moved to Ubuntu which at the time (may still be the case) had less packages, if I wanted something obscure it was far more likely to be packaged in Debian, but I moved never the less, as Ubuntu required less configuring and for the most part required less effort. Moving to Mandriva is much the same. It is GNU/Linux so has all the tools and capabilities I am after, as for range of packages, so far it has had everything I wanted and more, if there are some more obscure packages that it does not have, then on balance, overall I would still be happy to use Mandriva and build/package the 1 or 2 programs I want, though as I said, there is nothing yet that has not been available. As far as preinstalling the games, part of the fun for him is being independent and searching for games, he seems to find it quite rewarding being able to do this himself. If he breaks something, no problem its his computer. He then gets to do the install process, more fun and learning. It's not a choice between a distro and time with my son. His computer is in the living room and fully supervised at all times (even youtube can be disturbing at times). The whole distro change was totally done in consultation with my son, every choice was confirmed by him. In time, if he is interested and wants to learn, I will teach him how to do things on the command line, and hopefully how to program. The computer is not used as a babysitter, it is very much the opposite, it's a chance for him to learn by looking things up, or learning how to use it. I didn't even make the decision for him to use Linux, I gave him a dual boot system (with windows7) and he chose to use Linux only, as he used windows at school, so his logic was he could learn something else at home (I was very proud!). We end up discussing aspect of computing in general, or FOSS. I certainly wouldn't call Mandriva "impaired". Anyway, it's interesting to hear different points of view, but for my son right now, Mandriva is the right choice. If next month he prefers Debian, or OpenSuse or Fedora or Ubuntu or gnome3 over KDE then in this fantastic ecosystem called FOSS, he is empowered to change, as often as he likes. The only criteria is that it is what he wants to do, even if its just to try something different, or just for fun. Cheers Tuxta ____ From: onlyjob To: Steven Tucker Cc: SLUG Sent: Sunday, 3 July 2011 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian Perhaps I'm missing something obvious but why not just preinstall all the games? I prefer keeping kid away from package management besides the fact that some games' setup in ScummVM, Wine or Dosbox may be quite not trivial. In the old days when I didn't know about Debian, Mandriva was looking attractive but nowadays I wouldn't recommend it because it would mean a lot less flexibility. Did you compare amount of games available in Debian and Mandriva? What's the numbers? Does Mandriva make any sense if it have no game you like when Debian have it? It appears to me that least important criteria was used for choosing a distribution. There are also some benefits of having the same GNU/Linux on all home computers. Synaptic is not so difficult after all and maybe all the effort ant time spent for experimenting with package managers could be better spent for teaching and training? If choosing between spending time together with kid helping to learn how to install software and spending time with impaired GNU/Linux distributions the first seems to be a better investment of time. Regards, Dmitry. On 3 July 2011 10:08, Steven Tucker wrote: > > > > >>Thus spake Steven Tucker: >>> For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his hardware that >>> I have given up trying to fix, so I have installed Debian (wheezy) and >>> we both absolutely love it. The problem is it does not come with >>> something like software center on KDE, and he is not about to start >>> using apt! (least not till next year). >> >>Can you not run software-center on Kubuntu or am I missing something >>obvious here? > > If Kubuntu ran on his machine this thread probably would not have occurred. > The part I think you may have missed above was the line > "For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his ha
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
>Thus spake Steven Tucker: >> For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his hardware that >> I have given up trying to fix, so I have installed Debian (wheezy) and >> we both absolutely love it. The problem is it does not come with >> something like software center on KDE, and he is not about to start >> using apt! (least not till next year). > >Can you not run software-center on Kubuntu or am I missing something >obvious here? If Kubuntu ran on his machine this thread probably would not have occurred. The part I think you may have missed above was the line "For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his hardware that I have given up trying to fix, so I have installed Debian" We ended up settling on Mandriva, my son is able to keep it up to date and install software through easy gui tools. It installed easily, everything worked and with the PLF repo's we have everything we could want software wise. I have found urmpi to be a capable alternative to apt. I'm so impressed actually, I am considering making the move on my workstation. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
From: Erwin Mueller To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian Hi, I'm using Fedora 15 with KDE4 and for installing new software I'm using KPackageKit. Is KPackageKit not available in Debian? http://www.packagekit.org/pk-download.html Thanks for the suggestion, I looked into Kpackagekit and looks like the ticket, though I wasn't sure if there was an update notifier integrated with it. I have had a couple of annoyances with Wheezy though, and am a little concerned it may break with the rolling release set up so started looking around on the distro front. We are trialing Mandriva atm, it has an easy to use gui package manager which my son has already started using. It seems conservative enough to be stable, but updates often enough to keep us happy. They are working on an even better gui package manager for the next release so look forward to that. If we don't encounter any show stoppers my son will stick with KDE on Mandriva, fingers crossed. Thanks for everyones input. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
On 01/07/11 09:00, Heracles wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, A. Not sure if this is suitable, but "Software Center" is available in Debian 6 and looks sort of similar the the "Software Center" in Ubuntu 11.04. yes, this may be the path I take if there is no KDE equivalent, but I have read about issues. I guess I wont know till I try. B. Why KDE on Debian instead of the Classic interface in Ubuntu 11.04? NOTE: I also can't stand Unity but then I don't like KDE either. Well, we could have stayed with Ubuntu classic, but as AFAIK classic (as in gnome2) will be dropped next release, and the only gnome option will be gnome3. I'm not a fan of Unity or gnome3. So why not wait till October to switch? Well I guess that is reasonable, but knowing what is over the horizon, I would rather work on the transition now while I have some time, I may not have the luxury later. Perhaps not the greatest logic, but there it is. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
On 01/07/11 00:39, Nick Andrew wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:55:18PM +1000, David Lyon wrote: he's a boy.. apt-get is a boys toy really.. You're saying apt-get isn't a suitable tool for girls? Nick. Maybe I am selling him short, but his younger brother (only 4) will be joining the ranks soon, and I think he will still need a nice gui with pictures, so the problem remains. Thanks for your input though. Just on a side note, when I stopped to think about it, its quite interesting that a 6 year old can jump straight in and find software and install it independently (one day I came home and he had installed about 8 new games), but a lot of adults, some in the university I work at, cant make the move to linux because its harder to install software than Windows!?!? If my son had to google for software, navigate to the appropriate website, download the software, navigate to the download and double click, next next next, he would not be installing much at all. Old dog, new tricks perhaps? Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] KDE gui package manger in Debian
Hi sluggers, quick background to problem: My son (6 yrs old) has been running Ubuntu for over a year, he keeps it up to date and installs games himself through the use of software center. As he has been an independent user capable of selecting and installing the software *he* wants, it would be very sad if he had to start relying on me. So now we come to the problem . with the inevitable move to from gnome2 to Unity or Gnome3, we looked at what environment he might like to choose. He decided he would like to use KDE, which may have been influenced by the fact that it is the choice I made, but never the less that is what he has chosen. For some reason there is a huge issue with Kubuntu and his hardware that I have given up trying to fix, so I have installed Debian (wheezy) and we both absolutely love it. The problem is it does not come with something like software center on KDE, and he is not about to start using apt! (least not till next year). Synaptic is not as simple as software center, I have read that there are issues getting software center running on Debian Wheezy, and if at all possible I would prefer a Qt/KDE solution. I have seen online Muon, which looks exactly like what I am after, easy software selection, integrated update notifier etc. But is not yet in Debian. Has anyone else come across this issue and found a suitable solution? We are sticking with KDE, are open to changing distro (but prefer not to) and would like relatively up to date software but not bleeding edge (so probably not Fedora or at the other end Debian stable). Thanks in advance Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Email Client
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 22:44:19 +1000 Daryl Thompson wrote: > I have been using evolution for years now and its been OK but now i want > to know is there a better email client then evolution, that do you think > of Thunderbirds? I've been happily using Claws Mail for quite a while now, and haven't looked back since. The core program is very minimal and lightweight, but there are a lot of plugins to extend its functionality. It's also GTK+ based, if that matters to you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Text book for html5
Thanks to those who made suggestions. I ended up choosing "HTML5 and CSS3 Illustrated Introductory" as "HTML5 and CSS3 Illustrated Complete" is not yet in print. I have to heavily supplement the material and lectures, but for this year its a happy compromise. Next year we will have the complete version and the supplemented material, so it should be all good. Also using Komodo Edit with the html5 toolkit addon for development and Filezilla for upload (tools need to work on Win, Mac and Linux). Banning Dreamweaver (finally)!! Thanks again, just wanted to let you know how it went. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Text book for html5
Hi all, I will be taking over convening an undergraduate course that is a first year introduction to web design. I have been asked to update to html5, however I was only able to find 1 text book that focuses on html5 and despite the fact that I can order the book online from a number of websites, the book rep insists its not in print. I am forced to go through the normal channels so the book is simply not an option. So my question is, can anyone recommend a good text book, not just a "good book" but a good "text book" on html5 ? The book I "was" looking at was "Basics of Web Design, HTML5 CSS3" Oh, and I know that some (maybe most) may believe its too early to be teaching html5, but that is what has been requested, so any debate on whether html5 should be used, wont help (but feel free to discuss, it just wont answer the post). Also, by moving to html5, I have permission to remove the current IE requirement, so Firefox, chromium whatever can be used to develop. Thanks Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New abc.net.au URL for streaming audio?
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:33:22 +1100 Jeremy Visser wrote: > /me dreams for a future of Vorbis over RTSP over IPv6 Amen to that. Unfortunately, it seems about as likely to happen as HURD does. :( signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Optus broadband stick
Hybrid USB broadband sticks can generally be used on Linux. Here's how (instructions for Debian, adjust them to whatever you use): 1. aptitude install usb-modeswitch wvdial wvdial is optional, but the alternative is Network Manager which some of us despise. usb-modeswitch is a program to change the mode of the hybrid device to broadband modem. Once usb-modeswitch is installed, you should be able to plug the device in and have it "just work" with Network Manager, or else do the following to make it work with wvdial: 2. Edit your /etc/wvdial.conf to contain the following: [Dialer Defaults] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Init3 = AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","vfprepaymbb" Stupid Mode = 1 Modem Type = Analog Modem ISDN = 0 New PPPD = yes Phone = *99# Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 Username = vfprepaymbb Password = vfprepaymbb Baud = 9600 This is for Vodafone, but I assume something similar is required for Optus. 3. Now you should be able to run (as root) "wvdial &", wait for it to connect, and then close the terminal window (the & lets you do this without disconnecting). It's been a while since I've done this, so I may have inadvertently omitted something. Let me know if you're having issues, and I can come on #slug and help you troubleshoot. With regard to data speeds, I think mine got up to ~200 MB/s at the best of times, but fluctuated a *lot*. Hope it works out, Steven McDonald. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] libc6 depency issue
Where are you trying to install mondo from? It makes no sense for a package built for a particular system to be incompatible with the libs in that system. That said, you can override dependencies with dpkg if you really want to, like this: cd /var/cache/apt/archives/ sudo dpkg -i --force-depends mondo*.deb It's probably best to tab-complete the package name rather than globbing it, as it's possible you'll have multiple versions of a particular package in /var/cache/apt/archives/. It's also probably not the best of ideas to be doing this on a production server -- dependencies exist for a reason. The alternative is to try to build the package yourself from source: sudo apt-get build-dep mondo apt-get -b source mondo sudo dpkg -i mondo*.deb I'm not sure about the last command because I don't know exactly where apt-get puts the binary package after building it. You may have to look around for it yourself. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 59, Issue 20
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:13:11 +0800 Jam wrote: > Cute and true, but this does NOT enable the service it starts it [once] It should be enabled by default on installation, I thought the question was just how to start it as a one-off. The best way I've found to manage what services are enabled is to use rcconf. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Starting Apache on Ubuntu 10.10
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:07:53 +1100 Rick Welykochy wrote: > There is more than one way to do it. Open up a shell and type: > > sudo /etc/init.d/apache start It's actually apache2, according to http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/apache2.2-common/filelist. Equivalently, "sudo service apache2 start" will do the same thing, is probably more intuitive for someone unfamiliar with a Unix shell to remember, and is compatible with both sysvinit and Upstart scripts. > Familiarise yourself with shell operations and things become ... easier. Couldn't agree more on this point. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dos2unix
On 26/12/10 21:43, wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote: For those who asked, I'm running Lucid Lynx on a Toshiba Laptop. Regards, William Bennett. I'm using Maverick on my desktop machine where dos2unix is in universe. I looked for it on one of my servers (which runs Lucid) and it was not there. Seems there are only packages for Maverick and Natty http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=dos2unix I did see though that dos2unix conflicts with tofrodos, which seems to perform the same functionality tu...@wpcluster:~$ aptitude search tofrodos p tofrodos - Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos tu...@wpcluster:~$ aptitude show tofrodos Package: tofrodos New: yes State: not installed Version: 1.7.8.debian.1-2 Priority: optional Section: utils Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Uncompressed Size: 86.0k Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4) Conflicts: sysutils (<= 2.0.0-1) Description: Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos DOS text files traditionally have CR/LF (carriage return/line feed) pairs as their new line delimiters while Unix text files traditionally have LFs (line feeds) to terminate each line. Tofrodos comprises one program, "fromdos" alias "todos", which converts text files to and from these formats. Use "fromdos" to convert DOS text files to the Unix format, and "todos" to convert Unix text files to the DOS format. Homepage: http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/index.shtml So perhaps tofrodos is the ticket for you. Cheers Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] dos2unix
From: "wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au" To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Sun, 26 December, 2010 4:08:41 PM Subject: [SLUG] dos2unix apt-get install dos2unix returning the error "Couldn't find package dos2unix" means, presumably, that I have to find a source. Can anyone suggest one, please? William Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html I think you just need to enable universe tu...@benscomputer:~$ aptitude search dos2unix p dos2unix - convert text file line endings between CRLF and LF tu...@benscomputer:~$ aptitude show dos2unix Package: dos2unix State: not installed Version: 5.0-2 Priority: extra Section: universe/text < Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Uncompressed Size: 188k Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4) Conflicts: tofrodos (< 1.7.8.debian.1-2) Description: convert text file line endings between CRLF and LF This package includes two utilities to handle conversion of the text file line ending: dos2unix and mac2unix. The text files stored under Windows and DOS typically have two ASCII characters at the end: the CR followed by LF code. The Unix and Linux store text files ending only to LF and older Macs stored the files ending to CR. While modern editors can read any one of them, there may be need to convert files to one format or another. This is the classic utility developed 1989. Homepage: http://freshmeat.net/projects/dos2unix Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] An apt-get question.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 23:45:29 +1100 wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au wrote: > If I have an application that I wish to install --- a crossword compiler > in this case and I have the download on the desktop --- it's a .tgz file > --- is there an apt-get command 9or variation) that will install it? A little off-topic, but since three others have answered the question directly I see no harm in a slight deviation -- the use of apt-get for software installation/upgrades is deprecated. aptitude has numerous advantages, including more advanced dependency handling and a curses-based interactive interface, and is generally considered (by Debian at least) to have replaced apt-get for everything except downloading source code. Ubuntu 10.10 has, highly frustratingly, removed aptitude from the installation CD, so if you're on a clean install of Maverick you need to do apt-get install aptitude before using it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Disappearing Title Bar
Sounds like Compiz. Try turning of visual effects. System->Preferences->appearance->VisualEffects Select None If the problem does not return you know its compiz and can start trouble shooting from there. Cheers Tuxta The title bar on the windows that open within gnome sometimes go away. This is a random sort of happening. I may be using the system fine for an hour or so and then the next window I open has no title bar and when I look at the other open windows I find that their title bars have disappeared also. The only way they come back is by rebooting. Is this a bug in gnome? System: Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM OS: Ubuntu 10.04 with Gnome 2.30.2 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] XF86Calculator
Have you tried Xfce? I've been using it for a few months now, and GNOME seems kind of bloated by comparison. If you're getting frustrated with GNOME, it might be worth checking out. For instance, the key bindings are in Applications -> Settings -> Keyboard, where one might expect them to be. On 03/06/10 12:41, james wrote: Steven thanks for the hint I did: apps -> metacity -> global_keybindings : run_command_1 XF86Calculator apps -> metacity -> global_keybindings : command1 calc (which is free42) That works - yahoo, but why is so obvious a thing so hidden? google shows many asking the same question James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] XF86Calculator
I don't use GNOME, so I may be wildly off here, but can't you change the part where XF86Calculator is bound to calculator without needing to know where the actual mapping to gcalctool takes place? On 02/06/10 16:36, james wrote: My beef with GNOME is that more and more users are treated as idiots, don't touch the buttons! I'm trying to find WHERE the mapping from XF86Calculator (that key, on my keyboard) is mapped to gcalctool. Serious perusal of gconf-edit settings reveals: /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings/calculator showing XF86Calculator bind'd to calculator and /schemas/apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings/calculator showing calculator bind'd to nothing else. I'm aware of the xmodkey bit, but that is not being done. Where is it done? Compiled in? Everything *works* I just do not want *that* calculator and cannot find where the mapping takes place. If anyone can help - many thanks James PS replacing gconftool binary with free42 binary works, but boy is *that* a dreadful hack! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Old tech. books
How about a university library? Fisher Library at USyd has quite a few old technical books. On 5/31/10, Kyle wrote: > I (as no doubt a lot of you) have been collecting over the years any > number of technical books for which I no longer have any need. > > Rather than simply bin them, does anyone know of any organisation that > willingly accepts old tech. books? > > At the moment, the list is basically; > > Some Solaris 8 admin books > SOme Cisco technical books > win32 api > core java > > Is there any organisation anyone know of might want these? Or are they > destined for no-frills loo paper? > > -- > > Kind Regards > > Kyle > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux analogue
K9Copy is probably the closest fit that works great! So easy to use as well. From: "wbenn...@turing.une.edu.au" To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Sat, 29 May, 2010 8:15:26 AM Subject: [SLUG] Linux analogue Does anyone know of a programme in Linux analogous to DVDShrink in msdos? I've a couple of DVDs that are Region 2, ie., Europe and I'd like to be able to look at them without having to fiddle the player. Any help greatly appreciated. William Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open source POS software and MYOB - also: ATO new system
From: david To: slug@slug.org.au Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 11:52:21 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Open source POS software and MYOB - also: ATO new system John Nielsen wrote: > Hi All > My lover has a stall that sells a great number of small items and were > looking for an open source POS system that can assist me in tracking the > demographic and psychogragpics of our customers and were also looking > for an open source equivalent of MYOB. > I have installed an open source POS system for a cafe which stayed in use (with periodic updates) for about 3 years when they relocated and sold the business (don't know what the new owners use). When it was first installed it was called TinaPOS, then it became librepos, and finally it was bought by OpenBravo and is now called Openbravo POS. While I have not used it, Openvbravo's ERP now has the POS integration, perhaps this would help with all the your business statistics and accounting? I can only recommend the POS system as that is all I have used, but it suited us perfectly and did a damn good job. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora KDE audio capture problem
Hey Ben, 2010/3/10 Ben Donohue : > Hi Steven, > > I've missed your first post but anyway... > > You could try a live CD disro like Knoppix which may find your sound card > and auto load all the drivers. You could test it working. > If it works then that is a start in that you know that you CAN get it > working and the hardware is OK. I am sure the hardware is OK. With some trial and error I had the whole system working last week! But yesterday I did a yum update, which installed the pulseaudio sound server again, and afterwards the mic was not working anymore. I tried to remove the pulseaudio server but ended up with an unbootable system (don't ask me how I did that). Anyway, I did a clean install, installed skype back, but now I'm stuck without microphone. I don't know how I fixed the problem last week, but it was more like a bit of trial and error. However, I did that yesterday and this morning, but it's not willing to cooperate this time :) > Then somewhere in Knoppix (been a while since I've used it) it may tell you > exactly what the hardware is etc and then that gives you a head start in > looking for the drivers. > > Don't know if there would be somewhere in knoppix virtual file system (proc > in memory I think) that tells you what the driver values it used are? > (This bit is beyond me here... just quessing) > > Ben > Steven > > > > steven bellens wrote: >> >> Hey guys, >> >> 2010/3/10 Ken Foskey : >> >>> >>> On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 00:22 +0100, steven bellens wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hey Daryl, >>>> >>>> probably something similar here, however the solution you suggest >>>> doesn't have the right result here. I created this file with your >>>> suggested settings, but still I'm unable to get any input from my >>>> microphone. Any suggestions how to trace down the problem? >>>> >>> >>> You would have to research the correct driver for your particular sound >>> card first. >>> >> >> Can someone put me on the right track here? I have no idea where to >> look for them. I didn't do this some time ago neither, however I >> managed to get it working as well. I adapted the sound.conf file to >> fit my laptop (dell), but still without any luck. I suspect this >> indeed to be a combination of hardware issue and alsamixer, but I have >> no clue how to start debugging it. As I'm not that much of a Linux >> expert, any concrete steps are most welcome. >> >> >>> >>> Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) >>> >>> Ta >>> Ken >>> >> >> regards, >> >> Steven >> >> >>> >>> > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora KDE audio capture problem
Hey guys, 2010/3/10 Ken Foskey : > On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 00:22 +0100, steven bellens wrote: >> Hey Daryl, >> >> probably something similar here, however the solution you suggest >> doesn't have the right result here. I created this file with your >> suggested settings, but still I'm unable to get any input from my >> microphone. Any suggestions how to trace down the problem? > > You would have to research the correct driver for your particular sound > card first. Can someone put me on the right track here? I have no idea where to look for them. I didn't do this some time ago neither, however I managed to get it working as well. I adapted the sound.conf file to fit my laptop (dell), but still without any luck. I suspect this indeed to be a combination of hardware issue and alsamixer, but I have no clue how to start debugging it. As I'm not that much of a Linux expert, any concrete steps are most welcome. > > Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) > > Ta > Ken regards, Steven > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora KDE audio capture problem
Hey Daryl, probably something similar here, however the solution you suggest doesn't have the right result here. I created this file with your suggested settings, but still I'm unable to get any input from my microphone. Any suggestions how to trace down the problem? best regards, Steven 2010/3/9 Daryl Thompson : > Steve > > about 3 months ago i hand a similar problem with my fedora 12 on my Compaq > CQ61 > That is i had no internal speaker at all and could not configure the output > and input with skype. > > I created '/etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf' with the following setting > > options snd slots=snd-hda-intel > options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 > alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel > options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1 > > Then i had to restart my computer then it all just worked. > > The issue i found is alsa did not use the HDA audio correctly. > > Daryl > > > Hi guys, > > I'm trying to get skype going in Fedora 12 KDE x86_64 (fully updated). > I did some testing with and without the pulseaudio server installed. > With the pulseaudio, I didn't manage at all. I know I got it working > before _without_ pulseaudio, but after a yum update the pulseaudio got > reinstalled and the mic stopped working. Now I traced this problem > down to what I think is wrong: I have a HDA Intel sound card, but 'cat > /proc/asound/devices', doesn't show me any analog capture input at > all: > > cat /proc/asound/devices > 2: : timer > 3: : sequencer > 4: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback > 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture > 6: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent > 7: [ 0] : control > > Now, I manage to get the mic going with the digital capture, but it is > all noisy and as far from as good as with the analog input I used > previously. I adjust the audio settings with alsamixer. When I put the > input source to 'digital mic', I get the noisy sound. When I put it to > 'mic', it doesn't give me anything at all. I adjusted the volumes of > the capturing device without luck. So basically, my question is: how > can I get this analog audio capture back to work? Any help is greatly > appreciated, Thanks! > > Some usefull output: > > $ uname -a > Linux pma-09-032 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Feb 27 09:26:40 > UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > $ cat /proc/asound/cards > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > HDA Intel at 0xf6fdc000 irq 21 > > $ lspci | grep Audio > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio > Controller (rev 03) > > $ lsmod | grep snd > snd_hda_codec_idt 53677 1 > snd_hda_intel 23712 1 > snd_hda_codec 71956 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel > snd_hwdep 6446 1 snd_hda_codec > snd_seq 52773 0 > snd_seq_device 6151 1 snd_seq > snd_pcm 78375 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > snd_timer 19840 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm > snd 62376 10 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_ > hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer > soundcore 6271 1 snd > snd_page_alloc 7389 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > > > best regards, > > Steven > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fedora KDE audio capture problem
Hi guys, I'm trying to get skype going in Fedora 12 KDE x86_64 (fully updated). I did some testing with and without the pulseaudio server installed. With the pulseaudio, I didn't manage at all. I know I got it working before _without_ pulseaudio, but after a yum update the pulseaudio got reinstalled and the mic stopped working. Now I traced this problem down to what I think is wrong: I have a HDA Intel sound card, but 'cat /proc/asound/devices', doesn't show me any analog capture input at all: cat /proc/asound/devices 2: : timer 3: : sequencer 4: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 6: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent 7: [ 0] : control Now, I manage to get the mic going with the digital capture, but it is all noisy and as far from as good as with the analog input I used previously. I adjust the audio settings with alsamixer. When I put the input source to 'digital mic', I get the noisy sound. When I put it to 'mic', it doesn't give me anything at all. I adjusted the volumes of the capturing device without luck. So basically, my question is: how can I get this analog audio capture back to work? Any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks! Some usefull output: $ uname -a Linux pma-09-032 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Feb 27 09:26:40 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xf6fdc000 irq 21 $ lspci | grep Audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_codec_idt 53677 1 snd_hda_intel 23712 1 snd_hda_codec 71956 2 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 6446 1 snd_hda_codec snd_seq 52773 0 snd_seq_device 6151 1 snd_seq snd_pcm 78375 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 19840 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 62376 10 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_ hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 6271 1 snd snd_page_alloc 7389 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm best regards, Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Server LTS
Steven Tucker wrote: My question is .. the next LTS version is 10.04, but my deployment will likely be in January. What do people think the best course of action is? install 9.04 and upgrade That was suppose to be 9.10, latest version, then upgrade to 10.04 Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu Server LTS
Hi all, I will soon be replacing a Windows 2003 server in a small business with some Linux variant. Traditionally I have used Debian or Centos, I have been wary of using Ubuntu (whether justified or not, I was not confident with it on a server). Im now slowly being won over with others telling me how successful their ubuntu server installs have been, so now Im considering using ubuntu server edition. My question is .. the next LTS version is 10.04, but my deployment will likely be in January. What do people think the best course of action is? install 9.04 and upgrade, install last LTS (I think 8.10 ??) and upgrade, install last LTS and dont upgrade or go my traditional route and use Centos or Debian. I really hope this does not become a distro flame war, its really not intended (or wanted), just some idea's and hopefully experience. Unless people have specific reasons they would not use Ubuntu on a server, I am more interested in hearing thoughts on the Ubuntu upgrade path rather than using a different distro (unless of course it is justified, not just distro preference). Thanks Tuxta __ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dreamweaver clone for Linux ?
Kyle wrote: Hi Folks, what is the best FOSS Dreamweaver clone for Linux?Junior wants to start building his own website, so he's going to require some assistance. What do folks use pls? +1 for Kompozer. I was in a web design class at uni where we were allowed to use dreamweaver or code by hand. I code by hand, but the others in my group wanted to use dreamweaver rather than learn anything. After one look at what dreamweaver did to my html I *MADE* them all switch to Kompozer. The result? . I was happy cause it didn't mangle my code, and they loved the wysiwyg, so much that they all now prefer kompozer over dreamweaver. Yep, Kompozer fits the billl. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: microphone / skype / ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
Skype also failed for me with Jaunty but I simply went to Skype main menu - options - sound devices and selected pulse. After that it seems to work. lspci lists sound card as Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) Regards Steven On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 08:09 +0800, jam wrote: > On Tuesday 19 May 2009 07:28:23 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: > > What a mess this is! > > Found this skype forum: > > http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=334081 > > I'd like to follow the advice of one of the posters at the end but my sound > > settings aren't the same. > > > > Seriously thinking about downgrading all the long, sad way back to 8.04 - > > well, it crossed my mind. > > I'm screwed if it's skype's fault and they don't update; I'm potentially > > less screwed if it is ubuntu. > > > > Nuking pulseaudio didn't do anything. > > > > Installing all of that junk above didn't do anything. > > > > Game over. > > The mythtv folk are bitching that you can't nuke pulseaudio in 9.04 it is > entrenched. > James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: Re: [SLUG] OT: moving from Access to ...?
> Thanks guys for the hint. > This sounds not to bad. I had a brief look at the project page and will give > it a try. One more thing which was not clear > to me from reading on the project page - will it run on windows, easy? Or > will I need to go though hoops? Sure, python is cross platform, as so therefore is Django. For Windows install instructions, check out this page http://thinkhole.org/wp/django-on-windows/ Haven't actually used it on windows myself, (and have no plans to), but should be all good. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] OT: moving from Access to ...?
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 14:39 +1100, Sebastian wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all, > > this is a bit OT but as I want to do it at home on my linux box I > thought I ask here for some guidance. > > For a bigger project at work I set up a access database a while ago - > it does the job but I would like to get away from access. > The database is basically a large list of past job/FEAdesigns for > later reference. At some stage I wanted to import/export from and to > out FEA software (a text file). > > I have to admit my knowledge in Access is not huge but I would be even > more keen on learning something more open. I know a bit of VBA and > HTML which is why I thought could there something be done with PHP and > mySQL. Django sounds like it would fit the bill. Using the Python Language, Django is a framework for database driven web development. It takes care of the SQL for you, so you dont really have to learn mysql, postrgres or whatever DB you end up using. Very fast, very clean. > > I would prefer to have the reporting and data entry done in a web based > format. Django, Django, Django! > Are there any simple good options? Django! Of course there are many other excellent solutions such as Rails (ruby), Grails (groovy) etc etc. I just find Django to be very light weight, easy to use, with great tutorials, and of course Python. :) Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Brief note on eeePC 701
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 14:47 +1000, elliott-brennan wrote: > Hi Steven, > > Everything under eeeb seems to work fine . > Was it the latest one you tried? They had probs, > apparently, with earlier versions? Don't they all :)) Well it was a while ago, so this is quite possible, and even likely. Lots of things were broken, so you couldn't have just not noticed them, so I think it is pretty likely your version is a newer bug fixed version. Good to know, I never like to see any distro suffer show stopping bugs. > > I'll boot M'driva on the flash drive again and > have a look for any probs. Mandriva One Spring > 2008 website: Again, perhaps a time issue. I never actually tried it, so I cant reliably comment. I dont know about 3G either, but earlier threads on slug seem promising, and if it works with ubuntu, debian or mandriva, I dont see why it wont work on the eeepc I do know however that my install of Debian does everything (and more) that I hoped for, and by the sounds of it, there are now other great choices too. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Brief note on eeePC 701
On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 21:57 +1000, elliott-brennan wrote: > > My favourite? > > The eeebuntu netbook remix. Really? I found issues with eeebuntu, and xeeebuntu is out of date. I didn't go Madriva due to issues I had read (by the creators) I have had *no* issues with DebianEeePC. Stable reliable, and if you follow a couple of small tweeks from the wiki, works perfectly with all the hardware http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC I have the 4 gig disk for / and a 8gig SD card for /home I find I have plenty of space. I dont just play with the eeepc, I actually use it for coding too. Got netbeans running for my java development(both netbeans and the jdk are installed on the sd card for space sake), and codeblocks for C/C++. Its surprisingly snappy too. Very happy with the buy, without DebianEeepc though, I it would always feel like a compromise. Anyway, just my take on it :) Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] WIreless MINI PCI-E
Potentially a very bad move! I use to have problems with the bc4311 in my compaq Presario V3020au but now with the b43 firmware it is all good. I dont know about Fedora, you may have to use fwcutter and get the firmware and extract it manually, but in Debian and Ubuntu just do apt-get install b43-fwcutter it will download, extract and place the firmware for you. The reason I suggest changing the card could be a bad move, is that a friend of mine had the same laptop and decided to change the card to an atheros one, the bios rejected it and would not allow the system to boot, in the end he did a nasty bios hack, once the OS takes over the card runs perfectly, but the hacked bios was causing other issues and in the end he went back to the Broadcom card and an official HP bios. HP of course deny putting hardware restrictions in the bios. Tuxta On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 00:36 +1000, Daryl Thompson wrote: > I have a Compaq Presario C302T laptop with a Broadcom 802.11 a/b/g > wireless MINI PCI-E. > > I am having problems getting this card working and stable in fedora 7, 8 > and now 9. I have read the the Intel wireless MINI PCI-E cards are > better supported and have been looking to bye the INTEL WM3945AGM1WB - > INTEL PRO/WIRELESS MINI PCI-E. would any one recommend this as a > good wireless MINI PCI-E. what is will this work better then the > Broadcom 802.11 a/b/g wireless MINI PCI-E and easyer to configure. Or is > there any other wireless MINI PCI-E a/b/g card that you > could recommend. > > Note the Compaq Presario C302T laptop only has 2 internal antenna > inside. > > -- > Daryl Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] HOWTO make a Ubuntu Live CD
Robert Collins wrote: On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 18:24 +1100, Ken Caldwell wrote: Hi, I would like to make a Ubuntu live CD. That is to say a CD similar to the usual installation CD but with the installer stripped out. The CDs would be used in a classroom where I don't want students actually installing Ubuntu just running it from the CD. I haven't (yet) found out how to do this. Do any sluggers have any pointers? Expand the squashfs from the cd to a live ext3 file system, chroot into it and remove ubiquity. Then recompress, generate a new iso with the new squashfs, and you're good to go. -Rob Or use the Debian live cd. Last time I looked it wasn't installable... of course this may have changed, I haven't looked for some time. On the other hand, if you really want Ubuntu but the chrooting etc seems a bit technical, you could just use reconstructor, which is a gui that allows you to make changes (such as remove ubiquity) and takes care of all the iso creating, chrooting etc for you. Just point it to your ubuntu iso, follow the prompts and burn the new iso it creates. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Games / Interactive learnign for kids/babies 6m -18m
Alex Samad wrote: Hi I was wondering if any one has any recommendation for some interactive kids programmes for learning/playing that i can get for linux. I currently have a spare keyboard that the little bashes on, but I would like to have something happen on the screen as well and hopefully maybe learn some things as well? Alex My son loves Gcompris and childsplay (Both in the debian repos), he has been playing them since he was just over 2 (now 3). He has absolutely amazed me with what he was almost instantly able to do. He now plays games where he points the mouse and clicks on stuff (pretty kewl considering it took him about a week to master compared to my retired parents who still have mouse problems) and can now navigate through the programs, changing games when he gets bored. He also very quickly started enjoying a game where letters fall down the screen and you have to press them on the keyboard before they reach the bottom. He knows every letter of the alphabet since playing that game. I also bought about 5 educational games for him to play which work perfectly under wine, but would you believe he went straight back to gcompris and childsplay, they keep his interest much more than the commercial stuff I bought, and on top of that, he gets far more education out of them. They are very well thought out games which deserve a lot more recognition. He also loves the wiggles website where he plays the flash games. All this stuff may be for children a bit older than what you were asking for, but definitely good to keep in mind, just blink and they will be 3. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] phpBB and spam
Hi people, I run a forum using phpBB and have it so new members must be approved by the admin, so as to stop porn spammers. This was perfect for the first couple of months, but now I get up to 20 membership applications a day that are just spam. I have to look through them to make sure there are no legitimate entries and this is becoming a major pain. Can anyone tell me how I could possibly stop the spam, I was even happy to stop applications and just add people myself, but it doesn't seem to be an option in the admin panel. I really don't know anything about phpBB other than how to set it up. Thanks Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora8 bigpond cable broadband solution howto request
A quick search in apt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search bpalogin bpalogin - login client for the Telstra Bigpond Cable Network (Australia) I'm sure yum would produce similar. Tuxta On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 20:43 +1100, R.G.Salisbury(default) wrote: > Hi all > > > Telstra bigpond cable is well supported for OSX & Windoze but not linux --- > from Telstra at least. > > I can find info on BPA that is old (redhat6.1 to redhat9) but zip for the > cutting edge :Fedora8 ... etc > > And any other latest linuxes I find nothing . > > Does anyone have a link or any tips. > > Thx for any help > Roger > > > > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xorg Configurators
I've used Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu and openSuSE on my laptop, and when connecting a second monitor only Ubuntu did the job without any hassle. Sax2 was completely hopeless, it kept kicking back the res on my main screen and didn't do anything to activate the second. In suse I ended up using the nvidia-settings program, that got the second screen going without effecting the first one, however I only got a portion of the screen due to differing resolutions. In Ubuntu I just hit a function key and both screens came up perfectly in a clone fashion. To use twin view in Ubuntu, I fired up nvidia-settings and it worked just fine. Ubuntu's X tool didn't work reliably, but nvidia-settings did. Fedora was some where in the middle, and I ended up tweeking xorg manually. With Debian, I was using an older set of software, and so the only way to get dual screen was by vi'ing xorg. These are just my experiences and others may be different. Summary, if you want minimal hassle with dual screens and have an nvidia card, Ubuntu is the way. Tuxta On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 16:13 +1100, David P wrote: > I've personally never had a problem with SaX2 (X config tool in yast2) > and it's dual-head/Xinerama options, though it doesn't have a > web-based interface. I'd think success with multi-head on any distro > depends a lot on the graphics card (my geforce 6200 with proprietary > nvidia drivers works great). I'm sure that the graphical X config > tools in fedora and such would work great as well. > > David > > > On 12/19/07, Dean Hamstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > In spite of being a staunch fan of configuring X with vi, i am looking > > for a graphical configuration tool for Xorg. Especially one with good > > multi-head support. So i am wondering if anyone has any thoughts. > > > > Generally i am a debian man, but am willing to go with suse, fedora etc. > > Not sure if yast2 has web based config, i know it has ncurses and x11. > > But im not sure how good its multi-head configuration goes. > > > > Web based would even be nice. > > > > Even perl modules to simplify making my own interface would be helpfull. > > > > Nvidia-xconfig is may also make my life easier and i am aware of it. > > > > Dean > > -- > > http://fragfest.com.au > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] "Build Instructions" for rt61 driver
On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 16:32 +1100, Leslie Katz wrote: > I bought a D-Link Wireless G Desktop Adapter, DWL-G510. > > My understanding is that it works with the above driver. > > I downloaded the relevant tarball from the Ralink site and am trying to > follow the build instructions in the unpacked README. > If you are using Debian or a Debian based distro, you may be better off letting module assistant take care of everything for you. I have had success in the past using Debian, just fire up m-a (as root) and select the driver you want. I believe Fedora and Mandriva have something similar too, but I am not familiar with them. >From what I have heard, the ralink drivers are soon to be included in the kernel, something to look forward to. > Here are the last 2 steps for a 2.6 kernel as set out in the README: > > "6> $dos2unix rt61sta.dat > $cp rt61sta.dat /etc/Wireless/RT61STA/rt61sta.dat > # !!!check if it is a binary file before loading !!! > > 7> $load > ... > > #[kernel 2.6] > #$/sbin/insmod rt61.ko > #$/sbin/ifconfig ra0 inet YOUR_IP up" > > I have 2 questions: > > 1. I ran dos2unix with the file rt61sta.dat and then checked the > properties of the file. The type is shown as "MPEG video". I don't > understand enough about these things to know whether the file is > actually a binary file. How do I get a conclusive answer to that? > > 2. After the module has been loaded, I'm told to issue the ifconfig > command with "YOUR_IP". I know that my modem treats my computer as > 10.1.1.3. Is that what I'm to substitute for "YOUR_IP"? You need a different IP per device, if 10.1.1.3 is your ethernet card, then you need something else for wireless. Most of the time I just let network assistant take care of all that, but if that is not working I would bring up the new device ie ifconfig eth1 up and then do a scan with iwlist scanning. The wireless card may also be wlan0, do an ifconfig -a to see what is around. Make sure you have the wireless tools installed too. Rather than going through all the ifconfig iwconfig stuff, get network manager to do the grunt work for you. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] how to get the Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01) to work with FEDORA 7
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 17:56 +1000, David P wrote: > On 7/23/07, Daryl Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > # /sbin/iwconfig > > lono wireless extensions. > > > > eth0 no wireless extensions. > > > > wmaster0 no wireless extensions. > > > > wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"" > > Mode:Managed Channel:0 Access Point: Not-Associated > > Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B > > Encryption key:off > > Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 > > Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 > > Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 > > > Looks like it's already working. You have a wireless interface > (wlan0), just it's not associated with any wireless access point. So > just try associate; something like "iwconfig wlan0 essid > MyAccessPoint" (of course replacing MyAccessPoint with your SSID). Its a tricky card to play with, and just having iwconfig "see" wlan0 is far from a reassurance that it is working. > > For WEP, do "iwconfig wlan0 key open THEWEPHEXKEY" (whatever your key is). > > WPA is tougher to set up from scratch (you need wpa_supplicant), but > FC7 should include tools which do all the associating and WPA for you. > You probably should use those. :P Fedora either includes, or yum's network-manager which I have found to be great, connecting to every network I have cared to try. > > Note, however, that just because you've successfully got a wireless > interface, doesn't necessarily mean that associating etc will work > (although it almost always does). However, the linux native bcm driver > isn't very good, and a lot of people use the windows broadcom drivers > under ndiswrapper instead. I would strongly dissagree with this point. It was true prior to kernel 2.6.19, (I use 2.6.20) but now it works a treat. I get far greater speeds when I boot into Debian than I do using the broadcom drivers in Windows - its not even a comparison, linux gets my line speed - about 500kbs - and Windows gets about 60kbs. I can also connect from greater distances. > > A way to test if you have basic wireless ability is to do a "iwlist > wlan0 scan", which should hopefully show you the available wireless > networks around you. If you see scan results, you're probably fine > with the current drivers, but if manually associating (as described > earlier) still isn't working, consider switching to the ndiswrapper > drivers. Or just click on the network-manager icon and have a look at what it has detected. Unfortunately Im still pretty snowed under with Uni stuff, but if you want me to help out you can email me directly with what you have done so far and Ill try to walk you through it - or - you can usually get me on yahoo or irc. tuxta2 is my username for yahoo, and Im often in #gclug and #ubuntu-au with username tuxta. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox pausing
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 13:34 +1000, Steven Tucker wrote: > On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 13:31 +1000, Heracles wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Thanks Simon, > > I'll check the cooling fans. > > She uses amsn and it seems to do everything she wants. The only problem > > is that the file browser is not configurable so she does not get thumbnails. > > ? > Why cant she get thumbnails? I do! > Try opening nautilus and going to > > Edit ---> preferences --> preview > > Here you can tell it to show thumbnails for files. > > If you want things like .wmv files to have previews you need to have the > codecs for totem to play them. > > Also remember that Gnu/Linux is the definition of customization, and any > claims that another less free operating system is more configurable > always comes back to knowledge of the user, and not the system. Then again, I could read the posts correctly and see that you were not talking about nautilus but amsn. oops. I hate it when I make myself look this stupid, unfortunately it happens too often. My appologies Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox pausing
On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 13:31 +1000, Heracles wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks Simon, > I'll check the cooling fans. > She uses amsn and it seems to do everything she wants. The only problem > is that the file browser is not configurable so she does not get thumbnails. ? Why cant she get thumbnails? I do! Try opening nautilus and going to Edit ---> preferences --> preview Here you can tell it to show thumbnails for files. If you want things like .wmv files to have previews you need to have the codecs for totem to play them. Also remember that Gnu/Linux is the definition of customization, and any claims that another less free operating system is more configurable always comes back to knowledge of the user, and not the system. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Sound in Ubuntu
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 23:21 +1000, Heracles wrote: > Hi, > How do I tell Ubuntu to ignore the built in via sound card and use my > Sound Blaster Live sound card. I can tell some programs to use it but > flash and some others ignore it. Is there a way to tell ubuntu (7.0.4 > btw) to completely ignore the via sound system? > > Heracles I pretty much never mess with sound, so im not exactly an expert, but at a guess I would suggest running alsaconf and selecting the device you want to use. I use Debian and only use one sound card, so I may be off the mark, but it seems logical. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox and 64 bit java plug in
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 21:50 +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > there is also gcj Well if you want something that "just doesn't work", then that would be a good choice. Otherwise don't go near it Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firefox and 64 bit java plug in
Ive used both on AMD 64. Konqueror works with java 1.6, but it came undone when I tried to use a secure site. Worked great with runescape but not with the Uni log in. I ended up using Blackdown, and am yet to find a problem. Of course it really annoys me not having the latest stuff, especially when its 1.4 - two versions behind, but it has worked with everything so far, so can't complain. Tuxta On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 22:44 +1000, David P wrote: > Sun makes Linux amd64 java, but unfortunately they don't provide a > amd64 firefox plugin. Konqueror however doesn't use a plugin for its > java support, but uses the JVM binaries directly to display applets > (which i've heard does work under amd64). So assuming you've installed > the amd64 JRE, Konqueror might be something to try. > > David > > > On 6/5/07, Sharon Doig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to find a 64 bit java plug in for my firefox browser. As far as I > > can make out there isn't one made by Sun. Can people suggest if blackdown > > java is any good? I have an AMD 64 bit architecture laptop running Suse > > 10.2. I need the java plug in to access a chat room for my nutrition > > e-group. > > > > Help, suggestions. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sharon. > > > > > > Sharon Doig in Canberra - Australia > > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Make your mark and achieve success > > or, if need be, die in the attempt. > > Miriam Leslie > > > > > > > > - > > How would you spend $50,000 to create a more sustainable environment in > > Australia? Go to Yahoo!7 Answers and share your idea. > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mythtv and capture cards
Hi all, I know there are some slugers out there using mythtv and I wanted to know the best capture card for the job. I have a cheap analogue card I got for free, but the picture is very low quality. Im not worried if its expensive, I just want the job done right. The cheapo has a bt878 conexant chipset which is supported but I would be less inclined to use another one given the performance of this card. I have mythtv set up and its great, just need a better card Whats is everyone using? Out of the box support would be pretty kewl too! Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] xorg.conf mouse problem
> Any "novice level " solutions appreciated > Thanks > Mark > > My mouse is a Logitec 2 button wheel mouse - USB > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "PS/2" > Option "Device" "dev/psaux" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > End Section Try using Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] kpkg
Hi sluggers, I use Debian and just love kpkg when builing a kernel, Im not a control freak and love when things do stuff for me. Occasionally I work on a redhat or suse machine and was wondering if there is a kpkg for rpm, or an alternative that does the same job. Having a package is great for a number of reasons, and just running 2 commands to get it is even better. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Open source groupware solutions
On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:24 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: > I'd like something that can share contacts / calendars / tasks across a > fairly mixed environment - evolution, thunderbird and sunbird/lightning > on Windows and Linux, and Outlook 2k3. > -- > Pete I ve used and loved Zimbra, I often try out Scalix when I see some propaganda, but keep going back to Zimbra. From what you have said, I think it would be a good fit Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work
> > So the end result is that the customer has saved $150 per unit and > > has a > > more stable and secure system, > > The salesmen has a product he can sell for less than his > > competitors and > > still makes $50 more per unit in commissions. > > The company owner has increased his/her profit by $50 per unit. > > Nice model until they wise up and figure out that they can get their > systems elsewhere for 700 bucks, and install Linux for free. Very unlikely IMO, as they will not want to be doing installs themselves anyway. If the salesmen are worth their salt, they will be able to point out the huge benifits of a preinstalled sytem, ie whole system is replaced under warrenty - not just the hardware, etc etc etc. People can get cheaper hardware and put it together and install windows cheaper than a pre installed system, but preinstalled systems still sell better - same deal here Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 18:36 +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: > > Robert Collins wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 17:52 +1000, David Ward wrote: > > > >> Thanks Amos. This is something I have thought of and mentioned to > >> some > >> of the sales stuff. Their instant reaction is that if there's no > >> money > >> in Linux why bother selling it? > >> > >> They sell MS software and make margin on it. So can understand what > >> they are saying but dont agree with them. > >> > >> I am definately not a sales person :) Case 1 System - cost = $500 sell for $700 Windows - cost = $250 sell for $300 Customer pays $1000 Gross Profit = $250 Commission = $100 Company Profit = $150 Case 2 System - cost = $500 sell for $850 Linux - cost = $0 sell for $0 Customer pays $850 and saves $150 (easier to sell when your product is cheaper, so hopefully sell more units as well) Gross Profit = $350 Commission = $150 Company Profit = $200 So the end result is that the customer has saved $150 per unit and has a more stable and secure system, The salesmen has a product he can sell for less than his competitors and still makes $50 more per unit in commissions. The company owner has increased his/her profit by $50 per unit. And as a previous email suggested, the remaining funds that would have been used up can again go to the company when they UPSELL, would you like fries with that? ... umm. ... I mean, support contract, extra hardware, extended hardware warranty etc etc. For the salesman who wants to know the point of selling something that is free, the simple answer is higher commissions, due to bigger margins, the ability to upsell and having a more cost effective and therefore attractive product to sell. Free equals more money (At least, that is the point you should be trying to make to those money hungry soulless creatures called sales staff). Why did Sun opensource Java ? Because making it free meant bigger profits. The salesmens little minds may struggle with this a bit, but that is a great example of making software free, so as to build your revenue. My 2c Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] What app handles .DWG files?
On Sat, 2007-04-07 at 16:56 +1000, DaZZa wrote: > On 4/7/07, Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > as per the subject > > AutoCad, or one of its variants. > > Good luck finding an open source replacement. That's one horrible format. > > DaZZa You can use Qcad, but first convert the .dwg to .dxf using dwg2dxf. >From what I have heard, the conversion is very reliable. Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Installing Nvidia card
Patrick When I did the same thing on an Intel board there was a BIOS option for whether the AGP or PCI should be the first/primary video device (the one that gets all the start up messages) there was also the option to disable the on-board video. If you have two monitors you will see which is which when you start up. regards Steven On 1/29/07, elliott-brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi James, Thanks for that. I was under the impression that I'd have to disable the on-board vid first. I was contemplating having the new card not work and then finding out that I had NO video at all %) I'm assuming I will then see two cards in the system settings (Kubuntu 6.06) and can then choose the primary? Regards, Patrick >8. Re: Installing Nvidia card ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mon, 29 Jan 2007 09:20:17 +0900 > > 1) PLUG OUT your machine, or wall-plug off. Power Switch does NOT off the PCI > bus > 2) Plug in your new card > 3) Plug in the monitor and switch on > > Its possible to make the primary-card the on-board card, but not normal, > so no other action required > James > -- Registered Linux User 368634 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] sed question
I have a bunch of test files with lines of the form **1.** Scope or **2.2** Uniforms and other clothing worn in the production area must be laundered regularly. Additional clothing changes may be required when significant soiling occurs, especially when involved in 'dirty' cleaning or maintenance. The ones that have no digit after the decimal place I want to change to the form **1. Scope** I wrote the following sed -i.bak "s/^\(\*\*[0-9][. ]\)\*\*\(.*\)$/\1\2**/" *.txt Unfortunately sed seems to be putting the 2 trailing ** at the beginning of the replacement line rather than the end of the line and after much stuffing around I still can't work out what is going wrong. If I leave out the $ in the regex to match then I get ^M embedded into the replacement string i.e "**1. Scope^M**" Can anyone see what I am doing wrong? Thanks for your help Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Apache2 php mysql, CMS?
I am migrating some Lotus Domino databases to LAMP. One new database that I thought I would try my first experiment with is a simple document store. It seems to work nicely with mysql. This database only needs fairly simple add, edit & search function and I thought there are probably some automated system to take an existing mysql structure and create some PHP web forms to allow these functions. Despite a fair bit of time with Google I haven't found what I am looking for. Although they seem aimed at a slightly different and much larger and more complex problem there seems to be about a million competing Content Management Systems that may or may not do what I need. However, the learning curve for these might be larger than just learning more PHP and writing the system from scratch. If someone could recommend a system that could help me I would appreciate it. If one of these CMS is the way to go recommendations from a happy user of one or other of these would be great. I can see at the moment I could spend weeks just trying to decide how best to approach the problem. Perhaps there are some templates of existing systems out there but I haven't been able to find them. Thank you and regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Mail Server Migration
I am in the process of migrating a mail server from Lotus Domino on RedHat to a combination of Postfix, procmail, amavis-new, clamav, spamassassin, Squirrelmail on Ubuntu 5.10. (Actually, at the moment the amavis-new, clamav spamassiassin mix are on the firewall which is a separate box). The Ubuntu machine is also serving as the users home login machine where they are running various applications. Although this seems like a much more complex setup it does have the advantages of significantly more functionality and is not proprietary. The clients will be a mixture of Evolution and Lotus Notes. I need to add an IMAP sever into the mix for the Notes clients and for the remote Linux Clients. I have looked on the web for some guidance but seem to be able to find only information on configuring the bits and pieces. I can't seem to find anything on the big picture and the best place to put each bit. My image for the final system is 1. Mail received by Postfix on firewall and various filters applied (such as must be a known user) 2. Mail passing postfix filters examined by amavis-new using clamav and spamassassin still on firewall. (not sure about whether this is the best spot for spamassassin) 3. Mail forwarded either to the Lotus Domino Server (until it is decommisioned) or to the Ubuntu 5.10 box. 4. For the Linux box mail stored in maildir store. 5. Local users (ie logged directly into the Ubuntu box) access the mail directly using Evolution. They might or might not use the junk / no junk controls in Evolution to manage spam and bayes. 6. Remote users use offlineimap to replicate a local copy of their emails. I am after some advice as to a tidy way to configure the whole setup. Is the above plan the best way to do it? I think I need to be able to tell Postfix/procmail to store the incoming mail in maildir format somewhere. ( I ma not sure how to do this) This allows the imap server ( probably Courier IMAP or bincimap ) to serve the mail to remote clients including offlineimap. Some advice on whether I am on the right track, where to look for the appropriate configuration files and which IMAP server to use would be appreciated. I am not sure how best to configure Spamassassin. Do I leave it on the firewall and ask users to forward spams that escape detection to some central account which I then use to drive bayes. Or, is it better to have the users use the junk/not junk options in Evolution and each drive their own bayes analysis. It seems the first option has the advantage that it will work for all clients but may suffer from inaccuracies. ( some peoples spam is other peoples ham ). The second will not work for the non-evolution clients. At the moment I am using offlineimap to replicate local mail stores for my home computer and using Evolution as the mua and the combination seems to work very well. Offlineimap seems to hande the replication much faster than Evolutions own offline system. Any advice re the above, a good easy to manage setup for email, imap server recommendations, etc would be most appreciated. Regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Question on Gnome.
--- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In the past, when I minimized something, it always > migrated to the bottom > > tool bar, for subsequent resurrection. Not now. > > > > Now it flies off to the right of the screen, I > know not where. > > > > It may be that the tool bar extends out beyond the > right edge of the > > screen, too, and that minimizing is acting > correctly. (No evidence, but > > there has to be something that's doing it.) > > It may be that your X is configured to display over > two screens. Do you have > two video cards, or one card that can handle two > displays? You may want to > dig around in the X configuration tool to see. > That's the most likely thing, > given your explanation. Haveing set up dual monitors, I find it very hard to believe this set up would happen by accident. My guess is that you have simply removed the "window list" from your tool bar. To fix, just right click the toolbar -> Add to panel , then scroll down and select wondow list. Then minimize something and stare in amazement at my all knowing all seeing, massive brain. or not! Hope thats the prob! Oh yeah, if you did have dual monitor set up, you would be able to drag windows right off the screen, you cant do that can you ?? tuxta2 Do you Yahoo!? Make free PC-to-PC calls to your friends overseas. You could win a holiday to see them! http://au.docs.yahoo.com/promotions/messenger/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lindows experience.
Well put Jeff, Sudo rocks, Ubuntu rocks! Root does exist, if you want the traditional method of using root, just activate root by doing sudo passwd root when you create a password then you can log in as root, if you then disable sudo, you are back to the traditional set up! I quite like the way Ubuntu has used sudo, but if you dont like it, it takes seconds to change! Gotta admit I am back using debian on my server, debian for a server anyday! Ubuntu for a desktop everyday! my 2c tuxta2 > --- Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 1. the installer didn't ask me to define a root > > password > > > > Yep, the root account is disabled. > > > > > 2. once installed, I discovered that the root > > password was the same as the > > > password of the user I had created in the > > installation > > > > Nup, there is no root password - it's locked. You > > must've been using sudo. > > > > > 3. the user I had created in the installation > was > > able to change system > > > settings that can normally only be changed as > root > > > > Only when you authenticate again via sudo. > > > > > 4. I could open a root terminal without typing a > > password > > > > The only time you can get to a root terminal > without > > typing a password is > > when you boot in recovery mode - sulogin drops you > > directly to a root prompt > > (if an attacker has sufficient physical access to > > your system to reboot and > > select the recovery mode boot choice, then your > > system is owned already). > > > > > To fix the last two points I had to manually > turn > > off "Executing system > > > administration tasks" in "Users and Groups". > > > > That actually means you've disabled sudo access > for > > your user, which you'll > > have to recover by booting in recovery mode. > > > > > While I believe that Lindow^H^H^Hspire is a wart > > on the face of free > > > software, I was shocked to see Ubuntu seemingly > > taking the same path. Am I > > > missing something? > > > > Yep - the difference between running every process > > as root and secure access > > to administrative functionality via sudo. :-) > > > > - Jeff > > > > -- > > EuroOSCON: October 17th-20th > > http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/ > > > > "I guess there's part of me that's always > > resented it... to be an > >actor, you have to have someone else say yes to > > you." - Edward Norton > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - > > http://slug.org.au/ > > Subscription info and FAQs: > > http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fw: Postfix, IMAP, Lotus Notes, Evolution & OfflineIMAP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/09/2005 06:18:33 PM: > Are you sure the Notes client is useing imap if I remember rightly Domino > routes mail by copying the memo doc to the mail.box and the router takes > care of the rest, when a client is offline the sent mail is saved into a > local mail.box the tha client scans on replication back to the server and > it is sent there. I don't think IMAP per se has this functioallity as it a > MUA? MDA? not a MTA so if this needs to happen it will need to be in the > implemented in the client. ...snip... Notes normally uses its own proprietary methods but both the client and the server do have imap support. ...snip... > > By the way how are you planning on replcaing the calendering functionallty > in Domino? > We don't use calendaring so I don't have to worry about it Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Postfix, IMAP, Lotus Notes, Evolution & OfflineIMAP
Our current email setup at work is Postfix on firewall running spamassassin across all incoming emails, dropping emails for unknown local users and forwarding what remains via SMTP to the local Notes Domino server (running on RedHat 9). I am trying to gradually phase out Notes. I am looking to replace it with a local IMAP server and use OfflineIMAP to allow users to synchronise their mail to laptops and the like. They will probably use Evolution as their client. This combination of tools looks like it will provide the functionality they are used to (except for problem 2 below). For the moment I will have 2 systems. New users will get the new system. Old users will be phased accross as they need new equipment (or any oher excuse I can think of such as when they break something and I have to fix it) I have been fiddling with this for a while now and have a few problems and am looking for any suggestions. 1. At the moment I use an entry in the "transport" file for Postfix to direct all mail for our domain to the Notes server. I need to be able to this by user but can't see how it is done. Transport seems only to accept domains. Can postfix do this,and if so, how? 2. With the Lotus Notes client running in IMAP mode I can create emails offline. When I sync the client with the server the server will send out any unsent emails. Copies of sent mails are thus filed in the main server "sent" folder or as directed by the user. Evolution seems to insist on either an SMTP server or sendmail. This will not create a "sent" mail copy in the main server IMAP store but will store it on the machine the user happened to be using when they sent the email. Is there a way round this? If not, is there an OSS client that would allow me to do this? Thank you and regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Fw: Postfix, IMAP, Lotus Notes, Evolution & OfflineIMAP
I am sorry if this is hitting the list for a second time. I managed to make a major stuff-up with my email on the weekend and was off-line for a day or so. I am not sure if this email got sent or not. The slug site seems to be down so I can't check the archives for this message or any replies. If you did respond to this question previously perhaps you could send me a copy off-list. Thank you Steven - Forwarded by Steven Heimann/HFG on 09/08/2005 10:00 AM ----- Steven Heimann/HFG 07/08/2005 05:07 PM Our current email setup at work is Postfix on firewall running spamassassin across all incoming emails, dropping emails for unknown local users and forwarding what remains via SMTP to the local Notes Domino server (running on RedHat 9). I am trying to gradually phase out Notes. I am looking to replace it with a local IMAP server and use OfflineIMAP to allow users to synchronise their mail to laptops and the like. They will probably use Evolution as their client. This combination of tools looks like it will provide the functionality they are used to (except for problem 2 below). For the moment I will have 2 systems. New users will get the new system. Old users will be phased accross as they need new equipment (or any oher excuse I can think of such as when they break something and I have to fix it) I have been fiddling with this for a while now and have a few problems and am looking for any suggestions. 1. At the moment I use an entry in the "transport" file for Postfix to direct all mail for our domain to the Notes server. I need to be able to this by user but can't see how it is done. Transport seems only to accept domains. Can postfix do this,and if so, how? 2. With the Lotus Notes client running in IMAP mode I can create emails offline. When I sync the client with the server the server will send out any unsent emails. Copies of sent mails are thus filed in the main server "sent" folder or as directed by the user. Evolution seems to insist on either an SMTP server or sendmail. This will not create a "sent" mail copy in the main server IMAP store but will store it on the machine the user happened to be using when they sent the email. Is there a way round this? If not, is there an OSS client that would allow me to do this? Thank you and regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bash Question - Redirection of output determined by Variable name
I have a bash script sometimes called by another script and sometimes run
from the command line. I would like standard output (and error) to go to
the screen if I run the script from the keyboard and to a nominated file
if I call it from another script.
I tried the following
if [ "$1" = "quiet" ]; then
R=">> /home/steven/mfgbacker/serr 2>&1"
else
R=""
fi
[...snip...]
DTEN=`date "+%Y.%m.%d %H:%M:%S"`
echo "inside makedvd $DTEN" $R
I=`mkisofs -R -J -q -print-size /back1/tarback/*.tgz`
J="tsize=${I}s"
mkisofs -R -J -q -o /back1/tarback/dvd.iso /back1/tarback/*.tgz $R
cdrecord -sao $J dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 speed=2 driveropts=burnfree
/back1/tarback/dvd.iso $R
[...snip...]
The $J substitution into the last command works fine but the $R bit, which
attempts to redirect the output to a file, does not. Bash seems to
interpret the >> bit as part of the command rather than a redirection
instruction.
I am not sure if this is possible in bash or not. There are lots of other
commands in the script which also redirect so I would rather not do
something like:
if ["$1" = "quiet"]; then
mkisofs -R -J -q -o /back1/tarback/dvd.iso /back1/tarback/*.tgz >>
/home/steven/mfgbacker/serr 2>>1
else
mkisofs -R -J -q -o /back1/tarback/dvd.iso /back1/tarback/*.tgz
fi
because I would have to do it many times.
I think the problem is something to do with when bash is processing the
substitution. I have tried various combinations of different quotes
without success.
Could someone please point me in the right direction
Thank you and regards
Steven
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[SLUG] Problem with iptables (also with Slug archives)
Good morning all I'll start with the 2nd thing. Everything I type into the search engine for Slug archives this morning results on zero items returned. Back to the first problem. My problem with iptables is that, for only one particular web site it doesn't seem to recognise that the return packets are related to my own computers original requests and is thus blocking access to that particular site. Following is a snippet from ethereal. reading from file pp1, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked) 05:53:58.169345 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.32768 > dns.iinet.net.au.domain: 46458+ A? www.patchworkprovisions.com.au. (48) 05:53:58.419363 IP dns.iinet.net.au.domain > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.32768: 46458 1/2/0 A 72.41.32.224 (116) 05:53:58.419536 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086 > 72.41.32.224.www: S 2119897742:2119897742(0) win 5440 05:53:58.676015 IP 72.41.32.224.www > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086: S 1947729371:1947729371(0) ack 2119897743 win 5840 05:54:01.418789 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086 > 72.41.32.224.www: S 2119897742:2119897742(0) win 5440 05:54:01.671964 IP 72.41.32.224.www > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086: S 1947729371:1947729371(0) ack 2119897743 win 5840 05:54:01.677841 IP 72.41.32.224.www > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086: S 1947729371:1947729371(0) ack 2119897743 win 5840 05:54:07.417848 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33086 > 72.41.32.224.www: S 2119897742:2119897742(0) win 5440 As you can see my computer makes a DNS request, gets an answer, then makes the SYN request to the website and receives the ACK. It just goes on making the SYN's because the ACK is blocked by iptables. In the following snippet from a www request to cisco all works fine reading from file cisco, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked) 06:07:33.182686 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.32768 > dns.iinet.net.au.domain: 59737+ A? www.cisco.com. (31) 06:07:33.216451 IP dns.iinet.net.au.domain > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.32768: 59737 1/2/1 A www.cisco.com (99) 06:07:33.216770 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33119 > www.cisco.com.www: S 2986197184:2986197184(0) win 5440 06:07:33.432785 IP www.cisco.com.www > 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33119: S 4025776358:4025776358(0) ack 2986197185 win 8192 06:07:33.432849 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33119 > www.cisco.com.www: . ack 1 win 5440 06:07:33.433116 IP 203-206-243-100.dyn.iinet.net.au.33119 > www.cisco.com.www: P 1:552(551) ack 1 win 5440 If I turn off firestarter the problem goes away immediately. However this is not a safe solution. I have tried specifically allowing inbound packets from that ip address but that doesn't seem to work either. The setup is Ubuntu Hoary kernel 2.6.10-5. Can anyone suggest the cause of this problem Thank you and regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] E Commerce
My wife has asked me set up an online shop for her small craft supplies store. I have been trawling the web and the Slug archives for advice about the best way to proceed but am still confused. There seems to be a number of ways to go: 1. Fully hosted service ( would have to be linux based and a couple of them advertise that they are) using their online/offline shop configuration systems and payment gateways. Some of these seem to eliminate the need to be a credit card merchant but transaction fees are high. 2. Build a system, probably using php and mysql, possibly based on one of the sourceforge Ecommerce projects and either link to one of the payment gateways and host it at any isp providing php. 3. Although the bandwidth would be low, reliability concerns would seem to emiminate the option of self hosting at the end of an ADSL connection. 4. Combinations of the above. 5. Something different suggested by the list Could someone suggest where I can get info on a good strategy to follow and possibly suggest linux based providers. Although not directly linux related some advice on a cost effective way to process credit card payments would be very appreciated Thank you and regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Fedora package dependencies nightmare
--- Del <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Slugger > > > > Hi i just get a fresh install Fedora Core 4 (Yay > finished at last --> thx to all slugger for the > help) now another trouble :( i want to install gnome > that depends on libfam >>> nnooo cannot found > the packages is there any way in fedora that can > have auto install dependency or at least tell me > where the package is or the files resides in :) > > Read this: > > http://wiki.babel.com.au/index.php?area=Linux_Projects&page=YumOnFedoraCoreThree > > Then do this: > > yum -y install gnome > (or whatever) > YUM is good, but IMHO apt-get is still better,much faster queries etc. There is now an apt-get package for fedora core 4 which would be more suitable than using core 3 repo's. The package auto creates the /etc/apt/sources.list.d files (as apposed to haveing everything under /etc/apt/sources.list You can get the rpm here = http://dag.wieers.com/packages/apt/apt-0.5.15cnc6-4.2.fc4.rf.i386.rpm It works great great, and as it includes about 5 repo's for core 4, you should have every piece of software you are after using apt-get install or install synaptic with apt-get install synaptic to use the gui for package installation. Hope that is usefull. tuxta2 Do you Yahoo!? Win a dream trip to Western Australia, courtesy of the NEW My Yahoo! http://au.my.yahoo.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ADSL connection advice
Hi All I have recently got a broadband connection with iprimus with an external modem/router (Netcomm NB5). I am running Ubuntu and have tried using some of the adsl configuration tools (pppoeconfig and roaroing penguin) this was unsucessfull (unable to find aggregator was the message - I think). I got it working; using DCHP the ethernet card gets a local IP address from the modem and I can ping outside IP adresses. logging into the modem/router and noting the assigned DNS servers and enter these in my resolve.conf file. I am able to get e-mail do web browsing etc. Is this a reasonable way to set it up? It seems too simple compared to what I've read. I assume the modem/router is doing all the connecting. I am concerned that this may be an insecure way to connect and I want to automatically connect when the computer turns on. Any advice or comments would be appreciated. Steven O'Reilly -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SQL Brain teaser...
Grant I'm not sure that what you have is really a SQL syntax problem. It looks like an "Operations research queuing" problem. Googling on this should help - or confuse. hope this is relevant Steven O'Reilly On 6/1/05, Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to do some metrics on how long it takes to process an order in > our system based on time between printing the picking slip and bagging the > goods for dispatch. The aim is to determin the maximum performance if we > were to have one guy do nothing but pick & pack orders. > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Update on Ubuntu not working on Athlon 64
Ashley Glenday wrote: Hey guys, Some of you may remember the problem I was having with X freezing on Ubuntu 64. It turns out that after much swearing, ATI seems to have some problems with their Radeon X600 drivers and Linux. The problem isn't limited to Ubuntu either. Neither Fedora nor Whitebox Linux would work. I managed to get around the problem by changing the drivers from ati to vesa in the xorg.conf file. Hope this saves someone else the same verbal exercise. Ashley Glenday I would say the cauese of this issues is most of the driver are still in 32bits, hend it doesn't work with 64 bit OS -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [Osia-discuss] Education Expo Report and Thanks
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:21:15PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > Good morning everyone, > > We had a rocking weekend at the Education Expo! Excellent! Do you have any numbers for what percentage of people interested in Linux were from public vs private schools? -- Steven D'Aprano Operations Manager Cybersource Pty Ltd, ABN 13 053 904 082 Level 4, 10-16 Queen St, Melbourne VIC 3000 Tel: +61 3 9621 2377 Fax: +61 3 9621 2477 Web: http://www.cybersource.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
Taryn East wrote: out of curiosity - is there anyting specific to support younger people? Mainly becuase my BF's son (16) is getting interested in this stuff and was wondering where a good place to point him would be. I was thinking of dragging him along to SLUGlets to start with but was wondering if there's anything special set up. Cheers, Taryn any linux forum, or try the linux area in whirlpool.net.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] problem installing Debian Sarge
sam rosenfeld wrote: I am currently running Slackware10 and want to switch to Debian. I've downloaded Sarge 1,2,and 3 from debian.com, but cannot install from CD number 1 in the Sarge list. The installation directly from a BIOS setting of CDROM does not copy any files on the CD to my hard disk. I'd like to boot from either sarge CD1 or, preferably from my hard drive or a floppy. (My BIOS, an Award, does not understand the formatting of a 120gig HD, but I have had no trouble with Slackware.) BTW, I have tried to read the manuals and relevant docs but clearly I've misplaced most of my neurons somewhere. Any help would be appreciated. sam You should be able to isntall it, I personally just download the latest sarge cd via bittorrent, have you check the md5 to see if there is any checksum error on the image you downloaded? Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] winmodems & fedora 3
Phill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-01-20 22:37]: > Has anyone managed to get a lucent winmodem to operate correctly under > fedora 3? I am trying to use it to set a fax server under hylafax Hi Phill I have the lucent modem working in an old toshiba laptop running Debian, its worked for 4 or 5 years. I downloaded from here; http://www.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/heby/ltmodem/ One problem I remember was that the .deb provided only worked under the specific kernel version it was compiled against. I also (I think )remember that /dev/TTYLT0 was a symlink to /dev/tty14. I don't have the machine at work so can't check, this was a Toshiba tecra 550CDT if that helps. the following might also be usefull http://www.linmodems.org/ Regards Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Australian Linux Magazines
--- Ashley Glenday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey guys, > Anyone know about an Australian linux magazine? > Anyone able to help me find one? There is the Australian Linux Journal, but it gets printed once a year, also APC every now and then print a mini mag specially devoted to linux. Other than that, Im afraid Australia is somewhat behind the times. I get Uk magazines, but you have to subscribe to get them ontime, the newsagent are usually at least a month behind. Tuxta Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] GCLUG
Hi all, Im a former Sydney sider, but now live on the Gold Coast, Im an active member of the Gold Coast LUG (GCLUG). Having read the webpage of SLUG, I thought it a good idea to offer joint LUG support on free software campains. We are a small but tight group, that meet once a week. We are not as formal or well organised as the SLUG seems to be, but we have had a successful installfest recently and are planning to become more active. If there is anything that the GCLUG can get involved in, let us know, tuxta Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] tuxta2@yahoo.com.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Knoppix 3.6
john gibbons wrote: > Just tried Knoppix 3.6. Much impressed. Is there a way to install it > on the hardrive (alongside XP) to run it as a normal distro instead of > a live one? Not too technical a reply, please. > > John. > http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Knoppix+Hard+Disk+Installation&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Installing Debian
Alan Millsted wrote: >Just a quick ? >I am trying to install Debian and not sure about the X config for a >GeForce2 MX APG card. > >Any help please > >Alan > > > > > Download the ndvidia driver from www.nvidia.com and read the readme Steve (Yueh) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Debian kernel question
Alan L Tyree wrote: I'm running Debian testing on one of my machines. If I just run apt-get install kernel-image-xxx-xxx does that install a new kernel completely or do I need to do other things to get it to run properly? Thanks for help, Alan You need to edit GRUB or LILO to load up the new kernel image -- Steven Chang-Lin Yu http://requiemonline.tripod.com - Online Guide To Requiem Celluar: +61 0401 043 641 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mandrake 10.0 boot problems
What PCI card or USB device do you have? Have you try booting in to a Live CD? Regards Steve -- Steven Chang-Lin Yu http://requiemonline.tripod.com - Online Guide To Requiem Celluar: +61 0401 043 641 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wireless Modem drivers
Elliott-Brennan wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure if it's of any interest to anyone, but thought I'd raise it just in case (I'm trying to convince a rel to go Linux and she wants to be wireless. I'm also trying to persuade her to persuade the local diocese too :))) I came across this company in my surfing. They appear to provide software for some modems to work in Linux, including Wireless modems. http://www.linuxant.com/company/ You can trial it for a month and then they charge about $US20 for a licence. Just to assure everyone, I have no interests in the company, I haven't tried their product, nor have they offered me any kickbacks (cheap bastards :) Patrick Wireless modem? when did modem become wireless? or you mean the adsl modem/router linuxant provide the equivalent software as ndiswrapper for wifi NIC, i tried linuxant before, but it didn't work for my netgear wg311v2, so i went for ndiswrapper Steve -- Steven Chang-Lin Yu http://requiemonline.tripod.com - Online Guide To Requiem Celluar: +61 0401 043 641 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ndiswrapper in mandrake 10
Finally got mandrake 10, and installed ndiswrapper for my annoying netgear wg311v2, everything is working ok, and i got network connection, but when i do a restart, the configuration for thw wifi seems to be lossed, I recall someone in the group also have the same problem, just want to know how you go around it? Thanks Steven -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Wireless Mandrake
I am using the WG311V2 using TI chipset, there is a project at sourceforge rewriting the driver for it to run under linux, I heard some of the people got the WG311V2 working in linux in the 2.4 kernel, but when I try to compile it in kernel 2.6 under mandrake 10, I just get compiling error!!! Steve __ Steven Chang-Lin Yu MEngSc Student - Telecommunications Computer Technician Homepage: http://requiemonline.tripod.com ICQ#: 66369374 Current ICQ status: * Home Tel#: 0401043641 * Work Tel#: 0401043641 * More ways to contact me Get ICQ! __ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Saenz Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2004 6:59 AM To: Simon Males Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Wireless Mandrake Sorry the card I am using is a Dlink DWL-G650+ it's using an TI chipset. > > > What wireless card do you have? If its Orinoco/Lucent/Avaya/Agree you > need a patched driver or the new drivers*. > > *There is a new driver which hasn't reached the kernel 0.15rc2 > (current kernels have 0.13e). 0.15rc1 was meant to have monitor mode > but it hasn't worked for me, either has rc2. > > http://www.nongnu.org/orinoco/ > > The schmoo site has some info on how to patch 0.13e, but it doesn't > work for me. I went out and bought a PrismGT based chipset card, and > works fine with kismet, (I bought it thinking it was a prism2 card, > wanting to take advantage of the hostap drivers- which also have > better WPA support). > > http://airsnort.shmoo.com/orinocoinfo.html > > Knoppix has the patched driver if you would like to give that a thrash. > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 29/07/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 29/07/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] WG311 with mandrake!!!
Thanks for everyone's email regarding netgear WG311 under mandrake, however I still not really sure about what I am doing, it seems that the ahtone in the wireless section when the new hardware doesn't support the wg311 at all, I can't get it to auto probe the card!!! can some one tell me step by step what I need to do? Thanks Steven __Steven Chang-Lin YuUNSW MEngSc of Telecommunications Computer TechnicianICQ#: 66369374 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: +61 0401043641( Work Tel#: +61 0401043641+ More ways to contact me Get ICQ!__ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 16/07/2004 online?icq=66369374&img=21 Description: Binary data -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Netgear WG311 under Mandrake 10.0
Hi guys, need some help, I just installed the Netgear WG311 wireless card for my ADSL connection, it works fine under windows, however i don't know which chipset driver i need to select when i boot in to mandrake linux, can someone help? Thanks Steven __Steven Chang-Lin YuUNSW MEngSc of Telecommunications Computer TechnicianICQ#: 66369374 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: +61 0401043641( Work Tel#: +61 0401043641+ More ways to contact me Get ICQ!__ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 14/07/2004 online?icq=66369374&img=21 Description: Binary data -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Question about PGP
Hi, I would like to know the benefit of using PGP? I have notice some of the SLUG member uses PGP key on their message, is there any advantage??? __ Steven Chang-Lin Yu MEngSc of Telecommunications ICQ#: 66369374 Current ICQ status: ( Home Tel#: +61 0401043641 ( Work Tel#: +61 0401043641 + More ways to contact me --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.677 / Virus Database: 439 - Release Date: 4/05/2004 <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Some Question in Mandrake 10
Hi I found some problem in mandrake 10, I not sure is my problem or some other people have the same experience!!! 1. XEARTH would not run in KDE, under GNOME is fine!!! 2. Kcontact Suite (email, notes, schedule) - Sometime it crash after some other application installed, still trying to figure out which one cause the problem) 3. WINE would not run at all, every time I try to start WINE configuration, the system become so slow I can't do anything!!! If any of you know how to solve the above three problem, please let me know!!! Thanks Steven --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.648 / Virus Database: 415 - Release Date: 31/03/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
