Re: [SLUG] restoring emails after a re-install
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:30:53 +1000 Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am planning to upgrade from UBUNTU 6.6 directly to 7.4 I understand this must be done as a new install rather than an update. I do not want to lose my emails on Evolution 2.6.1. What is the best way to back up / restore them for this exercise? Once before (FC5 to Ubuntu 6.6), I tried to do this by loading the the saved files directly into the Evolution directories (didn't work). I am reluctant to try that again. I can see a reference to importing data for external sources bu nothing about an equivalent export function. -- Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html or you could do the upgrade Ubuntu 6.06- 6.10 - 7.04 http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake I have done this, from Hoary to Breezy and Breezy to Edgy on different machines, and preserved settings and mail. I stayed at Edgy (6.10) as 7.04 didn't have all the aps I use - yet. Avoid: net install - depending on bandwidth, its tedious and in one case as it couldn't find cdrom, bailed halfway and left a mixed distro mess. I recommend downloading the iso, mounting it as a loopback device for a speedy install. To mount: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /location/of/iso/ubuntu-6.06-.iso /media/cdrom0 Note: to prevent the iso been unmounted by the kernel, which after a while it will, change directory into the iso tree, eg cd /media/cdrom0/pool. Add the iso to the apt-get sources.list by apt-cdrom: sudo apt-cdrom -m -d add Back up your existing system, Then do the upgrade. When your finished: to regain the cdrom back from the iso - unmount the iso, it will also be unmounted with the next reboot. cheers R -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Doing a demo of Ubuntu at my place of work
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:30:45 +1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Ward) wrote: Hi all, The company I have been working at now (for a bit over 6 mths now) is a largish (~$150Mil/year) national IT company deal in everything from Hardware, Software and services. But...very Windows centric much to my disappointment. Needless to say word has spread in the Office I am ..the Linux guy The Owner of the company has gave Linux thought and some how was tipped over the edge recently and called a meeting with a few key staff members hers and . me. So I am now doing a demo of Ubuntu in the Friday morning sales meeting! Any tips or points for catching the attention of mostly IT 'dumb' ales staff ? I am thinking Beryl/Compiz, the mention of no spyware and viruses and the backing of big name companies like Dell, IBM and Novell. Any advice welcome; really want to do the best for Linux and open source here and get it into this company. Thanks - Regards David oooh, what fun! For a sales meeting presentation for Linux, then use a sales approach! Slides demonstrating features and showing benefits of the feature. This is to show the *value* of the feature. eg feature may be Open Source, benefit is feature is ext3 file system, benefit is . suggestions for features / benefits please! Have a slide that benchmarks the two systems. ie make a table having columns with each choice (OS in this case) and rows describing qualities such as: Licence Fees ($) IT maintenance (hrs?) Downtime for installing new software (reboots, hrs?) Security (virii, permissions..?) Support (open vs closed source...) User base (web servers, Google...) Hardware requirements (older hardware...vs expensive new box to run vista) ...more suggestions of a benchmarking qualities, please! If each category can be expressed in $ or person-hrs then you have magic Total Cost of Ownership ! Be prepared for objections, which are really inquires for more information. eg: the code is public domain, so it can be cracked and is insecure answer: so your concern is security?explain Open Source model, use Apache as example of success. eg: so many distros, not just one distributor... answer: so your concern is ? (what is the real objection? usually security) eg: it can't do the same as such-and-such softwareeg desktop publisher software answer: what do you use this softw for? find appropriate soln or can use wine or a virtual machine. ...more suggestions of possible objection/solutions please!. Then close by putting it back to them to make a decision: what else is needed? when? thoughts on a trial? how big? how long? how to measure outcomes? criteria for success? ..more suggestions for closing, please!... - R -- Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or Powerpoint attachments. Send plain text, rich text format, html, or pdf instead. Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/sylvester-response.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux laptop and training for new user
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:28:22 +1100 Rich Buggy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avoid nVidia graphics cards like the plague. Everything else in mine is Intel and the graphics card is the one thing that causes me problems. :( Rich -- BarCamp Sydney - March 3, 2007 http://www.barcampsydney.org/ On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 20:26 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Russell Davie A customer has asked me advice on a new entry level laptop that would run Linux. Which is a good choice? I can't point to a particular brand or model, but I can give you a big hint that will help your purchasing decision: Buy Intel, from top to bottom. You will have a massively better experience using Linux with a completely Intel based laptop, particularly the video chipset. They also want training as they have never used Linux before. Who could do this? is this available as a computer based learning or DVD? Perhaps look around on the OSIA website: http://www.osia.net.au/ - Jeff Hi Thanks for all who responded so promptly on and off list for help with getting a laptop. 1) get Intel chipset, avoid the rest 2) Dell, IBM and Toshiba work, (highest number of replies first) training? still hunting.. cheers Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:09:00 +1100 Gavin Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just had a friend ask me whether there's anything in the free software world for academic research / writing i.e. tracking bibliographic info, citations, quotes etc., and then collating them into a written product. He's used a commercial Windows product called Nota Bene before: http://www.notabene.com/product_tour_overview1.html Sounds like the sort of thing that much be an itch for lots of academics, but I've not run across anything more specialised like this in the free software world. Any cluesticks? What do you real academics out there use (without wanting to start an editor and/or word processor war!). Cheers, Gavin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html For document editing: LyX is front end for LaTeX and in current development and regular updates available. http://www.lyx.org/ now version 1.5.0 in beta, very slick improvement over previous versions. To manage bibliographic db: Pybilographer http://www.pybliographer.org/ can also do medline searches, AFAIK not any other databases. JabRef http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ can also do medline searches, plus others Citeseer uses Java so is much bigger than Pyblilographer on a limited mem machine cheers Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Academic research software
On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 16:06:41 +1100 Sridhar Dhanapalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:09:00 +1100 Gavin Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just had a friend ask me whether there's anything in the free software world for academic research / writing i.e. tracking bibliographic info, citations, quotes etc., and then collating them into a written product. For document editing: LyX is front end for LaTeX and in current development and regular updates available. http://www.lyx.org/ now version 1.5.0 in beta, very slick improvement over previous versions. Kile is a more user-friendly KDE-based TeX/LaTeX editor: http://kile.sourceforge.net/ KBibTeX specifically targets the bibliography features of LaTeX: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27421 More user friendly? How so if Kile requires the user to learn LaTeX markup language before they can produce a document? LyX enables a user to produce a document without having to learn LaTeX. This is avoids the significant and extra LaTeX learning curve. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux and POS
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:17:22 +1100 Lindsay Holmwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya Russell, I've done a bit of work in this area before with Kennards Hire, and some general research of available POS systems. They developed a custom application in Java that sits on top of a Fedora install. The app runs at all their branches nation wide and replicates data back to a central location. As far as the availability of the code, it belongs to Kennards and I don't think they're going to release it any time soon. :-) I've heard that Creative Computing[0] make excellent POS software. Bearnie is the guy to talk to there. POS software is not an itch most programmers want to scratch, so you're not going to find too many projects out there. :-) Muli[1] make business management software, which sort of isn't what you're asking about, but you might find it interesting nonetheless. In terms of FOSS POS solutions, there's not too much available, however PHP Point Of Sale[2] is suppose to be quite reasonable. Most (all?) of the FOSS POS projects out there are focused on a particular industry or business style, but with a bit of time and effort you can adapt what's out there to your needs. Hope this helps! Lindsay [0] http://www.creativecomputing.com.au/ [1] http://www.muli.com.au/ [2] http://www.phppointofsale.com/ On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:24:10AM +1100, Russell Davie wrote: Hi All I was wondering on suggestions of Linux POS (point of sale) solutions available for retail. Has anybody seen this work in a live retail environment? GNU would be great, however this may be unrealistic. Links and contacts sought for who can do this sort of work here in Australia - NSW, QLD. Who does this and who would you suggest? -- http://slug.org.au/ (Sydney Linux Users Group) http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ (linux.conf.au 2007) http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/ (me) Thanks Linsay and to all who replied, It will take a while for me to get around to checking out your suggestions and replying to your personal emails, However I would like to say it is very reassuring that the crew at slug were the right folks to contact about this. The scenario is that my employer owns a small business and joint venture in another. He been so badly burnt with a winPOS in the joint venture he has gone from been computer illiterate to computer phobic. He would rather stick to his price-guns and manual labelling. On the other hand he is contracted by the shopping center to totally upgrade the shop next April-May. This will mean a larger volume of business and result in the price-gun manual system becoming rapidly overwhelmed. So hence to opportunity for simpler, cheaper, and hopefully Linux, retail solution. thanks again Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux and POS
Hi All I was wondering on suggestions of Linux POS (point of sale) solutions available for retail. Has anybody seen this work in a live retail environment? GNU would be great, however this may be unrealistic. Links and contacts sought for who can do this sort of work here in Australia - NSW, QLD. Who does this and who would you suggest? cheers Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Postal etc
The Postal URL is http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ My blog is http://etbe.blogspot.com/ At the meeting people asked for the URL for Postal. Above is the Postal URL and the URL for my blog. The new version of Postal will be released in a day or two. A question was asked at the meeting about getting an ISA Ethernet card to work. Is anyone in SLUG trying to obtain old hardware for free to give to members? I often give machines in the P1-P3 range that have integrated Ethernet ports to LUV members and have given away PCI 10baseT cards. It might save some effort if people could be provided with more recent hardware instead of having to get old hardware working. I would be happy to give some old machines to SLUG members next time I get some if they want to arrange getting them from Melbourne. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.blogspot.com/ My Blog http://www.coker.com.au/sponsorship.html Sponsoring Free Software development -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] in Sydney on Friday
CC'd the committee in case the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address doesn't go to the members. http://www.ruxcon.org.au/ This weekend I am attending Ruxcon (see the above URL). I will arrive in Sydney at 4PM on Friday. I'll be attending the SLUG meeting which fortunately is on the same weekend. If anyone wants to meet up before the SLUG meeting then let me know, I've currently got nothing planned from 4:30 to 6:30. I can give a talk on something about SE Linux, the latest developments of my Postal benchmark (which I have been actively developing over the last few days), or anything else I know of that people want to learn about. As it's too late for a spot at the main meeting I can only give a talk at a bar before the meeting. That worked well on a previous visit to Sydney. Also if anyone wants to do a GPG key signing, my key is better connected than most people. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://etbe.blogspot.com/ My Blog http://www.coker.com.au/sponsorship.html Sponsoring Free Software development -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Installing Ubuntu with no CD
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:36:20 +1000 T Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu without the use of a CD Rom Drive? (my laptop CD Rom is playing up and a replacement is a week or two away) -- Regards, Trent Murray (diazepam) I reinstalled Breezy after it broke on laptop with a broken CD-RW. :-( A USB CD-RW booted a live CD, and iso was stored on a different partition. So then mounted the iso as a loopback. mount -t iso9660 -o loop iso-image /mount-point this here helped: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and debootstrap was pointed to the loopback mounted iso and worked like a treat. The partition was chrooted to clean up the installation. Its way faster than a CD install! HTH - R -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Gnome Keybinding Volume
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:06:26 +1000 Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just wondering what other people do with their keybinding on Gnome for media keys. Most of mine work but the volume and mute don't - they control the wrong thing. I've found - well actually Google did - quite a lot of people who report the keybinding controls the master when they need it to control the PCM. In my case, it controls the wrong card even though I've changed the default card, the media keys control the first (builtin) card still. Anyway, Google seems to say a work around is to install lineak, so I was just wondering if other people have a similar problem, what do you do? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html xbindkeys works http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79717 HTH - R -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu verses Debian (pure)
On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 03:39:34 +1000 T Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know a lot of you use Ubuntu, I currently use Debian (etch) but am a little hesitant to move across to Ubuntu as I dont fully understand what the difference is (apart from multimedia appearing to be easier to set up). What are the main differences between the two on the command line? I hear there is no root access??? After realising this after Ubuntu installed I changed the root password. Too easy. Besides, Knoppix did this as well! So what's new? Apparently, the first edition of Breezy stored the user password in the install log somewhere on the harddisk. Ouch! http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13951 Which is now fixed in Dapper. also does Ubuntu conform to the Linux Filesystem Heirachy Standard? and do people think Ubuntu will head down the same path as Redhat (and eventually restrict their free versions like they have with fedora?) And finally if Ubuntu is Debian (which many people have said to me) then why move across at all? Excuse my ignornance on this matter but the only answers i can seem to find when asking this question are (i) Because Ubuntus better and (ii) Setting up multimedia is easier. -- Regards, Trent Pro: I use it for a an Acer laptop. Ubuntu was able to get nearly every thing working, first go. USB auto-mounting is a big plus. Con: 1) I have found menus will only be automatically updated for the shipped window manager, Metacity. To update the menu for other window managers, I have to manually run from CLI update-menus. Maybe a script has been written for this? or its an apt setting? I prefer to use other window managers, Enlightenment or WindowMaker, less ram, what I'm used to, etc. I usually only run Metacity to do presentations with OpenOffice Impress as its *reliably* easy to change the display to suit the projector. 2) Some aps have not been ported to Ubuntu, so getting these aps means adding repository's in the /etc/apt/sources.list which reduces security, instability, etc. This happens with all Debian based distros. To be fair, these are minor peeves to get the comprehensive functionality of Ubuntu. A bit off topic: Searching the Ubuntu mailing lists archive is quite a challenge. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ No search box, it's not possible to do boolean search any particular mailing list and the lists are only accessible one month at a time, or one has to download the entire archive! groaning and gnashing teeth This is inconsistent with the rest of Ubuntu, maybe look at this little Linux archive for an excellent example: http://slug.org.au/lists/index.html Probably best if I post this in Ubuntu. Where is best place? I'm hoping Jeff is listening in and can set me straight on this! ;-) HTH Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wine and IE Problems
On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:03:23 +1000
Charles Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30/5/06 7:39 PM, Mark Sargent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All,
as much as hate doing it, I need IE under Wine. I get the following when I
try
to run ie6setup.exe,
~]$ wine /home/ozboy/dlds/ie/ie6setup.exe
wine: creating configuration directory '/home/ozboy/.wine'...
wine: '/home/ozboy/.wine' created successfully.
fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x7ff09190 0x7fc9fd78) stub!
fixme:advapi:DecryptFileA C:\\windows\\temp\\IXP000.TMP\\
fixme:advpack:NeedReboot (0): stub
fixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_SETFONT: stub
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} not
registered
err:ole:create_server class {6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} not
registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object
{6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} could be created for context 0x5
~]$ wine /home/ozboy/dlds/ie/ie6setup.exe
fixme:advapi:CheckTokenMembership ((nil) 0x7ff09190 0x7fc9fd78) stub!
fixme:advapi:DecryptFileA C:\\windows\\temp\\IXP000.TMP\\
fixme:advpack:NeedReboot (0): stub
fixme:richedit:RichEditANSIWndProc WM_SETFONT: stub
err:ole:CoGetClassObject class {6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} not
registered
err:ole:create_server class {6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} not
registered
err:ole:CoGetClassObject no class object
{6e449686-c509-11cf-aafa-00aa00b6015c} could be created for context 0x5
I get an error window that states components could not be installed and to
check my internet connection. Anyone ever tried this, or got a way to get
around this site's check,
http://sports.ninemsn.com.au/nrl/video_vault.aspx
as I've installed mplayer plugin and useragent extension in firefox to no
avail. Funny thing, is, I originally was able to get the install done, and
then found there were no files in Program Files/Internet Explorer so removed
the dir to no avail. Removing ~/.wine and even re-instllaing Wine has not
alleviated it. Any ideas? Cheers.
Mark Sargent.
Isn¹t there an extension for firefox that reports back to the server that it
is IE? I remember seeing that some
and Opera 8.62 has this in preferences: Browser identification Identify as
MSIE 6.0
HTH
-R
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems
On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:58:03 +1000 Michael Kedzierski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also look at winetools, a great little gui for semi-oneclick installation of lots of different software under wine (including ie6). I was also going to mention Winetools as I do use it, however installing IE6 didn't work for me under the latest versions of Wine. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html what about Crossover office? I have used it run windows plugins with FF-linux (shockwave) HTH -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Wine and IE Problems
On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:13:20 +1000 Charles Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/5/06 10:01 PM, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:58:03 +1000 Michael Kedzierski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/06, Ben Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also look at winetools, a great little gui for semi-oneclick installation of lots of different software under wine (including ie6). I was also going to mention Winetools as I do use it, however installing IE6 didn't work for me under the latest versions of Wine. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html what about Crossover office? I have used it run windows plugins with FF-linux (shockwave) HTH Crossover office does install IE6. I just had a peek, will give it a try to see how it goes. CX 5 ran shockwave with firefox and opera in this little linux box no sweat. Very slick package. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: A Sys Admin's worst nightmare
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:36:21 +1000 Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:31:14PM +1000, Simon Bowden wrote: cleartext). Unless someone is regularly keying in the root password and they're capturing that somehow, then they'll need to break they crypt to get it... (right?). Which seems a little unfair. They can pwn all of the machines in the shop and use them as a distributed cluster to brute-force the root password. If the cafe is connected to the net, they could brute force the pword from external cluster that is previously set up - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: laptop boot stalling at finding network
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:17:04 +1000 bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had similar p[roblem with my BenQ at one stage. Mine has 2 ethernet ports and one wireless. On home network using switch and modem/router, my laptop uses lan0 as the network connection, not eth0 or eth1. I merely turned off the connections I don't require using the Control Panel settings in Kanotix (debian). You should have something similar in Ubuntu. Else edit /etc/network/interfaces by placing a # infront of the appropriate lines in the file ( ie # iface eth2 inet ) thanks The offending process was zeroconf which consumed all thel cpu cycles and prevented the network to come up. It was discovered by twiddling with crtl-alt combinations which skipped over the hung process and the laptop booted. zeroconf was found running as the cpu was running 95% and zeroconf was the process so it was killed. Then synaptic history was searched and showed zeroconf was updated on sunday from 0.3-1 to 0.6.1-1. The package was deleted and the laptop rebooted properly. I couldn't find much on zerconf hanging except when running tiger as well. http://www.liquidx.net/blog/2005/05/03/tiger-ssh-hang-b/ Tiger is installed, so this might be the problem. However gdm login did not accept my login and password, until a crtl-alt-f1 to a terminal then alt-f7 back again to gdm, then it accepted the login. now whats happening here? TIA - Russell Hope this helps Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:15:23 +1100 Roger Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do people listen to Podcasts from the ABC? Sadly, as is usual for IT in the ABC, their help pages don't help (just another example of why RTFM is not a solution). I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be much better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from anywhere else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run bashpodder, a neat little script for downloading podcasts. Unfortunately, if bashpodderis run again the next day, it will dl the same mp3 and store them in a different directory. Try ipodder, it wil only dl what is new in the server and not redo already completed dls. - Russell HTH, - Rog -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Podcasts from the ABC
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:08:09 +1000
Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Roger Barnes wrote:
I found this help link by accident (for radio national), it seems to be
much better than the one I assume you are referring to as inadequate.
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/help.htm
That is the one. there is a slight difference between reality and their
help page
The method for listening appears to be the same as for podcasts from
anywhere else, but specifically, I've been using a cron job to run
bashpodder, a neat little script for downloading podcasts.
Good info, I'll try it.
An Automated solution is what I wanted.
ipodder has intelligent options like only dl if nominated disk space is
available. Thus preventing dls completely filling up the disk, which occured
when I used bashpodder.
Itpodder has an internal scheduler whereas bashpodder needs crontab.
Ipodder can shrink to a taskbar icon or desktop icon,at least it does in
windowmaker.
The down side is ipodder uses python and thus requires much more memory and
processor grunt. It went like cold molasses on a p266 laptop, where it simply
flies on AMD 1.8mhz.
ipodder needs the gui, where as bashpodder can be run form command line.
hth
Russell
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Re: [SLUG] Re: Missing mouse cursor
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:22:59 + (UTC) Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-03-20, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If its a USB mouse unplug it and replug it. I find it works for the usb mouse on this laptop I did; it did not work. Suspending and unsuspending the laptop did fix it. This Acer has the same distro and about once a day the mouse cursor disappears and whizzes erratically all over the screen flicking pages open. This mania it usually lasts for about 30 seconds. Or I just unplug and plug it back in. That's not the same bug, it's probably https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg-driver-synaptics/+bug/12124 which this laptop used to exhibit but no longer does. -Mary Thankfully, this has never happened with the touchpad, only the mouse, which is an el-cheapo MS Basic Optical. The laptop actually recovers normal operation without the mouse. Haven't checked using other mice and it hasn't happened today. I'll check it out if I can borrow another mouse and get same mouse mania. - R -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Missing mouse cursor
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:23:14 + (UTC) Mary Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-03-20, Simon Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if you try reapplying the cursor theme from the mouse preference? It does not reappear, although it's not entirely clear what constitutes reapplying it. There is only one Mouse theme (Human), and it is already selected. I can't de-select or change the selection, as there is only one. There is no Apply button, only Close. I don't know whether Close actually re-applies it, given that it is impossible to actually change the selection. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html If its a USB mouse unplug it and replug it. I find it works for the usb mouse on this laptop This Acer has the same distro and about once a day the mouse cursor disappears and whizzes erratically all over the screen flicking pages open. This mania it usually lasts for about 30 seconds. Or I just unplug and plug it back in. HTH - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwanted ads
I used to use T'bird, till it became overwhelmed in spam. It's training couldn't keep up with the different varieties of spam, so I changed over to sylpheed-claws as it had a plugin for SpamaAssassin. Well, this I couldn't not get SA plugin working well, so I went back to first principles and used fetchmail, procmail and pointed Sylpheed to the Mail folder. And it works really well too! Its caught spam sent to lists, inc slug, and last night it even filtered out a Amazon phish!. Outstanding! I doubt very much T'bird could catch as the phish SA found was a ISP address reported to be send spam. The take home message, is it just works. I wrote myself a howto, and its here: http://home.exetel.com.au/randombits/linux/linux.html HTH - Russell On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:44:39 +1100 john gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Via email, Matthew. Just got another half dozen. Sometimes exactly the same advt repeated 3 or 4 times. John. Matthew Hannigan wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 08:05:02AM +1100, john gibbons wrote: Some swine marketing viagra and associated products sends me several advts each day.It is the only advertiser to get to me via Firefox being run in Fedora 4. His advts vary at times and claim to come from different sources and are programmed to vary some content via random ommissions of letters in words, different home addresses, etc. However, the similarities are strong enough to suggest a single source. Firefox recognises most of them as junk but misses on others. I identify all of them as junk and immediately delete them. Is there some way I can block them from even arriving in the first place? I'm confused; is this in email or from websites or out of nowhere? (!) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Unwanted ads
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:05:02 +1100 john gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some swine marketing viagra and associated products sends me several advts each day.It is the only advertiser to get to me via Firefox being run in Fedora 4. His advts vary at times and claim to come from different sources and are programmed to vary some content via random ommissions of letters in words, different home addresses, etc. However, the similarities are strong enough to suggest a single source. Firefox recognises most of them as junk but misses on others. I identify all of them as junk and immediately delete them. Is there some way I can block them from even arriving in the first place? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Can recommend the full spamassassin / pyzor/ razor/dcc package. I put it on my laptop last Sunday, and it works a treat. It reads the headers and content and refers to a server(s) to check if the email has been reported as spam. Once a day crontab runs a script to retrain Spamassassin for the missed emails. Its reduced spam to about 5-10%. I have noticed if the spam is resent the next day, it is caught. HTH - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux distribution which one????
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:38:56 +1100 Kasim, Yosep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am trying to use linux for the first time. I would like to have a distro like debian with 14 Cds so I don't need to go to the internet to get the software. Debian would be suitable but has very old software tend not to be updated or too long. Can anybody assist me with any of distros that complete enough but not too old What do you want to do? Ubuntu uses 1 disk to install either workstation or server. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ You can have it mailed at no cost: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ HTH Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] linux distribution which one?
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:32:02 +1100 Kasim, Yosep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both server and workstation Basically I would like something like debian with 14 cds that shipped with a full load of software (not old though) so I could build all the server or workstation without going to the internet. Ubuntu DVD is Debianised, and very up to date can be bought here: http://www.lsl.com.au/product_info.php?products_id=461 - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Azureus/bittorrent experts advice requested.
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:13:30 +1100 Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've installed Azureus on Kanotix/Debian. I have a home network connected to Net through ethernet switch and modem/router ( Billion 7100s) with a Static IP from my ISP. Port-forwarded port 41952, both TCP and UDP. Set Azureus to use this port. PC's IP is designated by DHCP and is always 192.168.1.247. Azureus works but I only get yellow Smiley at best, but usually Blue Smiley. Yellow Smiley supposedly means that there is a problem with port-forwarding, and using the Azureus Test confirms this, though I believe that this is not reliable. I have also used online port-testing sites to check port 41952 and they always show it as blocked. Given that these sites see my static IP, which is my modem/router, and not my PC, and that Azureus works both Leeching and Seeding, am I correct in believing that my setup is OK and that my downloads are slow only because there are minimal Seeds and Peers at the time I am downloading? Thanks Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html check the ports on the box's firewall are open guarddog or firestarter are useful firewalls that is are very user friendly and easy to configure this. HTH - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] regarding my SE Linux talk
Firstly, if the slug mailing list only accepts postings from members could one of the committee please forward this. Also if you want to reply then please CC me. I've just listened to the MP3 I made of my SLUG talk. One question I couldn't answer at the time was whether the start-stop-daemon program in Debian prevents hostile programs from pushing key-presses into the buffer via /dev/tty. The answer is no, so I'll start working on this again. Also I just discovered that the Red Hat runuser program (the program who's name I couldn't recall during my talk) didn't end up getting the feature in question, the fix is now in rawhide in version 5.93-2 of coreutils. In regard to the issue of su code being rather hairy and no-one wanting to change it, the coreutils change in question makes the -c command option to su be an indication that a controlling tty is not needed (in a similar manner to ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] comand). This is only in rawhide at the moment, it will be interesting to see what feedback we get from this. http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/play.html The above URL has information on my Play Machine which has an open root password. Feel free to login and test it out, but remember that DOS attacks are not acceptable. The Debian package of coreutils has now got SE Linux support, and the kernel image packages are getting the auditing enabled. So Debian now has the full SE Linux support. All that is needed now is more policy work and support from the installer. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] re Dufus
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:40:41 +1100 Richard Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, Today I had a friend send me the following link:- http://www.dofus.com/en/ I only get 1/4 of the pages as well. Kubuntu / Firefox/Flash -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Same here, only 1/4 of the page Running Ubuntu breezy, firefox, flash ~$ apt-show-versions | grep firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb/unknown uptodate 1.0.4lang20050515-1ubuntu3 firefox/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 firefox-gnome-support/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 mozilla-firefox/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 ~$ apt-show-versions | grep flash flashplayer-mozilla/unknown uptodate 7.0.25-0.1 the flash player came from a different source, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main HTH Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] re Dufus
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:33:22 +1100 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:40:41 +1100 Richard Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, Today I had a friend send me the following link:- http://www.dofus.com/en/ I only get 1/4 of the pages as well. Kubuntu / Firefox/Flash -- Richard Hayes Nada Marketing PO Box 12 Gordon Australia 2072 Tel: +(61-2) 9412 4367 Fax: +(61-2) 9412 4920 Mob: +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html Same here, only 1/4 of the page Running Ubuntu breezy, firefox, flash ~$ apt-show-versions | grep firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-en-gb/unknown uptodate 1.0.4lang20050515-1ubuntu3 firefox/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 firefox-gnome-support/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 mozilla-firefox/unknown uptodate 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 ~$ apt-show-versions | grep flash flashplayer-mozilla/unknown uptodate 7.0.25-0.1 the flash player came from a different source, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main HTH Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html It works in Opera instructions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78626.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RealAUDIO and mplayer...
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:36:52 +1100 Peter Chubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to recode the Boyer Lectures from the ABC, and like a fool, only partly read the mplayer man page. So I did mplayer -dumpaudio -dumpfile boyer.wav \ rtsp://media1.abc.net.au/broadcast/rn.rm And ended with a file that's not a PCM file but a realaudio compressed file. Can anyone give me a cluestick on how to convert this to something I can listen to? (I've already tried: mplayer -vo pcm -rawaudio on:format=0x6B6F6F63 boyer1.wav but that gives: opening shared obj '/usr/lib/codecs/cook.so.6.0' Decoder init failed, error code: 0x80040005 ADecoder preinit failed :( ADecoder init failed :( ) -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au The technical we do immediately, the political takes *forever* -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html This used to work for me getting ram streams mplayer -playlist http://.. -ao pcm -aofile streamname.wav -vc dummy -vo null mplayer has just told me: -aofile is deprecated. Use -ao pcm:file=filename instead. so the new command is: mplayer -playlist http://.. -ao pcm:file=streamname.wav -vc dummy -vo null can be then further enhanced via a pipe to normalise then compressed I used to rack then all up into a script and call it as a cron job. mplayer -playlist http://.. -ao pcm:file=streamname.wav -vc dummy -vo null normalize *.wav lame -V 0 *.wav rm -f *.wav ..next stream.. a quick test on the Boyers: it works! HTH -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SQL ledger - postgresql - TCL/IP
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:05:18 +1100 James Purser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 14:01 +1100, Russell Davie wrote: Hi I am having difficulty in getting postgreasql past the ssl required for tcp/ip this is what I'm getting when I manually start postgresql: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/init.d # ./postgresql-7.4 start * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL [fail] adding a new user to postgres doesn't occur as postgres isn't running: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createuser -d -data Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432? I've found how to make the rss keys for openssl, but I'm not sure where to put them. ie the data directory mentioned in: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ssl-tcp.html Is this the right step? or is this in the wrong direction? (likely!) TIA Russell Postgresql needs to be told explicitly that it has to accept tcp/ip connections in the start up script, you might want to check if this is happening, if no tcp/ip then the ssl will fail. -- great it works! I edited the /etc/postgresl/7.4/main/postgresql.conf and changed: #tcpip_socket=false to: tcpip_socket=true thanks - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:30:24 +1100 Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:15, Russell Davie wrote: Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned. In any case I set up an rsync to another drive. So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft. Acer have knocked me back cited the age old contractual obligations with MS So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in writing. Which is yet to be drafted. I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply. So I emailed them and asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would be implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink wrapped CDs. They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on booting the machine for the first time. MS said that as the EULA covers IP from both OEM and MS and I should take my concern to Acer. This article (although dated) and the replies may be of interest. Getting a Windows Refund in California Small Claims Court http://interactive.linuxjournal.com/article/7040 thanks! its excellent! - Russell -- Regards, Graham Smith -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SQL ledger - postgresql - TCL/IP
Hi I am having difficulty in getting postgreasql past the ssl required for tcp/ip this is what I'm getting when I manually start postgresql: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/init.d # ./postgresql-7.4 start * Starting PostgreSQL 7.4 database server: main The PostgreSQL server failed to start. Please check the log output: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL [fail] adding a new user to postgres doesn't occur as postgres isn't running: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ createuser -d -data Shall the new user be allowed to create more new users? (y/n) n createuser: could not connect to database template1: could not connect to server: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on Unix domain socket /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432? I've found how to make the rss keys for openssl, but I'm not sure where to put them. ie the data directory mentioned in: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/ssl-tcp.html Is this the right step? or is this in the wrong direction? (likely!) TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned. In any case I set up an rsync to another drive. So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft. Acer have knocked me back cited the age old contractual obligations with MS So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in writing. Which is yet to be drafted. I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply. So I emailed them and asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would be implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink wrapped CDs. They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on booting the machine for the first time. MS said that as the EULA covers IP from both OEM and MS and I should take my concern to Acer. regards Russell On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:11:08 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 06:42:07PM +1000, Russell Davie wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:44:49 +1000 Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Purser wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:28 +, l cheung wrote: Get a life, get a power book. :) Yes but can you return OSX? It's a good idea to keep OSX on it as a small partition that can be booted by default for the first year. If you have to return the machine under warranty the techos at Broadway (thats where the Apple service centre is) will then be able to boot it and run their diagnostics. You'll get it back with your Linux untouched. Otherwise they will have to do a new install and wipe your Linux. o, never thought of that... good point I don't find it a very good point at all... Hard drives are completely interchangeable and there is absolutely zero excuse for the official hardware service centre not to have a special hard drive that they drop into the machine for doing diagnostics. Moreover, they can swap your hard drive into a different machine that does a sector read/write scan to prove the hard drive is working correctly and they can do that without damaging any of your data. They can even boot off a special disgnostic CD or off a USB device or off a network device. If Apple don't provide such boostrap options to their service centres then Apple clearly show no commitment to their customers. If Apple do provide the option and the service centre can't be bothered using it then time to look for a better service centre. I can remember boot floppies for 486 machines that provided extensive diagnostics in just a 1.4M image (including keyboard test). I first saw one about 10 years ago. The quality of computing services available to the consumer has gone downhill. -- I recently had to deal with the official Sony service centre in Lane Cove with regards to getting a warranty repair for a Sony Vaio doorstop, which had some sort of fault in the keyboard controller. Their first answer to pretty much anything that they can't obviously diagnose is software error, probably a virus or something, warranty does not cover software. I even got the guy to shut it down, remove the hard drive and boot it with no hard drive and the keyboard problem was obviously still present (because the constantly repeating key was causing a steady beeping noise). Then he starts with maybe you spilled something on this and after that doesn't get a good response he goes back to the tried-and-true must be a software problem, probably a virus. The only option he gave was to completely wipe the drive and reinstall from the original CDs before he would even consider taking the machine in for repair. I'll also point out that this laptop has only ever run MS-Win-XP and the install was already the standard default Sony install with a bunch of additional software added afterwards. I tried booting off a Linux CD and found that exactly the same keyboard fault manifested in Linux as well so I'm 100% sure it is NOT a software problem and sure enough after a reinstall from the original Win-XP CDs the fault is exactly the same. Basically, the reinstall is just their way of inconveniencing you and giving you a few hoops to jump through. It is utterly unnecessary and smacks of the unprofessional buffoonery that is typical in the computing industry and especially typical of anything sold with a Microsoft operating system. I'll also point out that the typical Apple user doesn't no squat about what is and is not possible so the probably get fed just the same line of junk because they don't know any better. Now I have to wait at least a week to get the machine back and then put in a good two days work reinstalling all the applications, reconfiguring the settings, etc, etc. just because Sony don't see a priority in providing diagnostic tools for their equipment. Sony do sell some decent equipment now and then but their attitude to the consumer
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 14:32:27 +1100 Del [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: Ok, So your have convinced me not to be concerned. In any case I set up an rsync to another drive. So far I have communicated with Acer and Micorsoft. Acer have knocked me back cited the age old contractual obligations with MS So I asked for the mailing address which I got and will put the request in writing. Which is yet to be drafted. I rang MS and asked for a EULA, and I never got a reply. So I emailed them and asked for for a copy of the EULA and explained that I thought I would be implicitly agreeing to if I used the software or opened the shrink wrapped CDs. They have written back and said the EULA is displayed on booting the machine for the first time. MS said that as the EULA covers IP from both OEM and MS and I should take my concern to Acer. This is something that Linux Australia should be taking to the ACC, IMO. It's been kicked around a bit in OSIA and a few people there have taken complaints to the ACC but it wasn't worth our effort, as a relatively small organisation that has some ties to vendors, to take it to ACC from there. LA has a bit more resources and should be able to push it on behalf of its members. ACC? bring it on! I am planning to put this to a uni law lecturer I know. And was going to see what the Dept of Fair Trading can do. First I will get a draft happening to send to Acer. - Russell -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:44:49 +1000 Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James Purser wrote: On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 13:28 +, l cheung wrote: Get a life, get a power book. :) Yes but can you return OSX? It's a good idea to keep OSX on it as a small partition that can be booted by default for the first year. If you have to return the machine under warranty the techos at Broadway (thats where the Apple service centre is) will then be able to boot it and run their diagnostics. You'll get it back with your Linux untouched. Otherwise they will have to do a new install and wipe your Linux. o, never thought of that... good point Would this apply to the Acer techos as well while the machine is under warranty? ie for the same reasons? Mike -- Michael Lake Chemistry, Materials Forensic Science, UTS Ph: 9514 1725 Fx: 9514 1460 [pls ignore idiot lawyer's msg below] -- UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 07:43:06 +0800 James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 20 October 2005 18:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LA is good suggestion, though I couldn't search the archives of Linux-aus unless I downloaded the entire 19MB archive http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/linux-aus/ and Software Freedom Day archive are not available for list page http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/sfd I searched for returning windows software in Slug not much came up windows refund is much better. Lots of juicy stuff to keep me occupied. Please keep us informed on how this goes. I'm not too far off getting myself a new laptop and I will be shopping at one of the places that will pre-install Linux. I will also be asking the vendor to completely wipe windows from the machine and providing me with a signed letter saying that they did just that. Phone the vendor! I did for Dell and they explained how to get the refund and return Winders. The also said they purchase in bulk, so the refund for Xp was $80. James Now I have plan of action: 1) contact the vendor if no joy then 2) contact Dept of Fair Trading else joy and buy stick of ram! Thanks Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] returning windows software
Hi All Has anybody done this? How would you suggest I go about this? This laptop (Acer Aspire 3002) runs fine on Ubuntu Hoary and I don't really need to use the Windows software that came with it. Everything runs fine, straight after install. Amazing. Except for special windows keys for starting Internet Explorer. ;-) Windows hasn't been used, though it attempted to boot twice, which was stopped in a few seconds by powering off. When Ubuntu was installed, the hidden rescue partition and WinXP partition had errors which Ubuntu couldn't fix. The only way out was to delete both partitions and let Ubuntu sort it out. So this laptop is fully Windows free, Windows was never used, the CDs are still in shrink wrap. So maybe it could be argued as the machine has never used Windows and as the CDs are in shrink wrap, then the ULUA that is set by MS hasn't been agreed to. Your advice in how to return the CDs for refund is appreciated. The money would come in handy to get more memory! regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
Thanks I found this too and was wondering if anybody has had more recent experience, well more recent than 1998. This is where I got the clues on not letting the machine boot into XP and using a Linux distribution (rather than partition magic) to repartition the disk. Surely somebody else has done this since 1998 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:36:47 +1000 Mark Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a documented case of something similar to what you want here: http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html It's a little old now, but gives some great advice. Russell Davie wrote: Hi All Has anybody done this? How would you suggest I go about this? This laptop (Acer Aspire 3002) runs fine on Ubuntu Hoary and I don't really need to use the Windows software that came with it. Everything runs fine, straight after install. Amazing. Except for special windows keys for starting Internet Explorer. ;-) Windows hasn't been used, though it attempted to boot twice, which was stopped in a few seconds by powering off. When Ubuntu was installed, the hidden rescue partition and WinXP partition had errors which Ubuntu couldn't fix. The only way out was to delete both partitions and let Ubuntu sort it out. So this laptop is fully Windows free, Windows was never used, the CDs are still in shrink wrap. So maybe it could be argued as the machine has never used Windows and as the CDs are in shrink wrap, then the ULUA that is set by MS hasn't been agreed to. Your advice in how to return the CDs for refund is appreciated. The money would come in handy to get more memory! regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
LA is good suggestion, though I couldn't search the archives of Linux-aus unless I downloaded the entire 19MB archive http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/linux-aus/ and Software Freedom Day archive are not available for list page http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/sfd I searched for returning windows software in Slug not much came up windows refund is much better. Lots of juicy stuff to keep me occupied. thanks On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:53:59 +1000 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Have you dug into the SLUG or LA archives? I'd expect anything like this to surface in these archives if it happened. Good luck, --Amos On 10/20/05, Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks I found this too and was wondering if anybody has had more recent experience, well more recent than 1998. This is where I got the clues on not letting the machine boot into XP and using a Linux distribution (rather than partition magic) to repartition the disk. Surely somebody else has done this since 1998 On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 13:36:47 +1000 Mark Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a documented case of something similar to what you want here: http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html It's a little old now, but gives some great advice. Russell Davie wrote: Hi All Has anybody done this? How would you suggest I go about this? This laptop (Acer Aspire 3002) runs fine on Ubuntu Hoary and I don't really need to use the Windows software that came with it. Everything runs fine, straight after install. Amazing. Except for special windows keys for starting Internet Explorer. ;-) Windows hasn't been used, though it attempted to boot twice, which was stopped in a few seconds by powering off. When Ubuntu was installed, the hidden rescue partition and WinXP partition had errors which Ubuntu couldn't fix. The only way out was to delete both partitions and let Ubuntu sort it out. So this laptop is fully Windows free, Windows was never used, the CDs are still in shrink wrap. So maybe it could be argued as the machine has never used Windows and as the CDs are in shrink wrap, then the ULUA that is set by MS hasn't been agreed to. Your advice in how to return the CDs for refund is appreciated. The money would come in handy to get more memory! regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] returning windows software
So far on the Slug list I found a thread in April 2005 called software refund posted by Nicholas Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug-chat/2005/04/msg00010.html If someone knows Nick or still has original thread can you please Nick to contact me about how he went with getting a refund. TIA Russell On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:25:48 +1000 Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russell Davie wrote: LA is good suggestion, though I couldn't search the archives of Linux-aus unless I downloaded the entire 19MB archive http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/linux-aus/ and Software Freedom Day archive are not available for list page http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/sfd I searched for returning windows software in Slug not much came up windows refund is much better. Lots of juicy stuff to keep me occupied. Please keep us informed on how this goes. I'm not too far off getting myself a new laptop and I will be shopping at one of the places that will pre-install Linux. I will also be asking the vendor to completely wipe windows from the machine and providing me with a signed letter saying that they did just that. Erik -- +---+ Erik de Castro Lopo +---+ C++ is an atrocity, the bletcherous scab of the computing world, responsible for more buffer overflows, more security breaches, more blue screens of death, more mysterious failures than any other computer language in the history of the planet Earth. -- Eric Lee Green -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] java security in Linux
Hi Please give your advice on security of Java in Linux. scenario: I have just received a email from ANZ bank (which I don't bank with, so its likely to be phishing) that is linked to a bunch of Java scripts. This is shown in Mozilla-Thunderbird when I move the cursor over the link. As a user has permission to run Java, can opening this link and running the Java script be a potential security risk? What can be done about this to prevent this from happening if an email leaks through the spam filters? Java permissions on this machine: :~$ ls -la /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 64492 2005-04-13 20:55 /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java Linux athlonbox 2.6.6 #1 Sun May 8 12:44:37 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux Debian/unstable regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] java security in Linux
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:30, Russell Davie wrote: Hi Please give your advice on security of Java in Linux. scenario: I have just received a email from ANZ bank (which I don't bank with, so its likely to be phishing) that is linked to a bunch of Java scripts. This is shown in Mozilla-Thunderbird when I move the cursor over the link. I got one too... but, there are no links to Java applets, do you mean javascript? Javascript is different and unrelated to Java. ok, yes the line is to javascripts Those phishing emails come up often, but seems that they're targeting aussie banks again. These emails seems to flare up every now and then. In most cases they take you to a fake site that exploits (usually an IE) bug that allows the author to obscure the real origin of the site. I have firefox running spoofstick, and this says the origin of the page. They then ask you for personal information. Since the bank will never do that, delete the email straightaway. other users on this machine may not be so careful. I have come across one site that had a Java applet that would try and overwrite a Windows DLL (the applet never ran), but typically they are not that sophisticated. The Security Manager should prevent that from happening anyway. Applets should run inside a sandbox and, by design, the JVM does not allow them to overwrite file outside the user directory (I believe). this is what I would like to be clear about Apart from spamfilters, is reliance on JVM design enough? (apart from continually reminding the users) ... regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] java security in Linux
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Hmmm, let's put it this way, should be enough. But is anyone going to guarantee that at some point, some version of Sun's or someone else's JVM won't have a security flaw? Even then, on Linux, the exploit would have to run with su privileges to gain access to any important system files... no I don't think there is anything to fear about. Sun's and Java's reputation relies on the JVM model being secure. Ok, point taken. However, when logging into Commbank-Netbank, the java-vm is not running as su, and is running with the user's name who started the browser that accessed the web site that ran the script. Which is typically my user name. I notice after logging out of Comm Netbank java-vm is still a process even after closing the window (via top). Could java-vm be inspected? ie by another javascript, byte by byte which could lead to an exploit? Maybe its set up incorrectly in my box? To be sure, I shut down the browser, which kills the java-vm. Is this been overly paranoid? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Priner compatability
I found your details on a web search of Linux. I am hoping you can help me with this query - I've just had Linux installed on my home computer and am looking for a compatible printer. I have a Lexmark printer currently installed but it does not work well with Linux. Can you advise on a make of printer that is compatible with the Linux operating system, or even a particular model of mono laser printer, hopefully for less than $350? Thanks for any advice you can give. Russell Hudson -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] /etc/module question
From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your best bet is to use hotplug, which automatically instantiates drivers for the attached devices at startup. It doesn't change /etc/modules, it just re-detects at every startup. (Ubuntu uses hotplug and udev by default, btw.) Ok, I have loaded hotplug and and rebooted, but still the network didn't come up until I did a manual /etc/init.d/networking restart Hotplug correctly found the network card and loaded all the modules, including one that wouldn't manually load - nice. lsmod | grep 8139 8139too20864 0 8139cp 16128 0 mii 4032 2 8139too,8139cp There is no link to /etc/init.d/networking in /etc/rc5.d, I assume as the network came up previously then it not needed and that something else is not right. Is the order of hotplug in /etc/rc5.d incorrect? (unlikely) or is there something else missing? (more likely...) TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt said: Sounds like your change management procedures could do with a tune up. yes, (said sheepishly crawling into a corner) Possibly you previously had a kernel with everything compiled-in, so the kernel did all it's automated hardware detection on startup. everything was a module I think what you want is discover, discover2, or one of the other similarly functioned packages. I though I did the required homework ie 1) checked all nic modules in kernel compile. 2) listed the nics covered by 2.6.6 and sought out a new one that was in this list 3) inserted the new nic 4) booted and you know the rest Admittedly, I allowed only 2hrs between hardware changeover and deadline, but there was no choice as old nic was then v unreliable. How can a nic be checked for reliabilty? It only showed unreliabilty happened in the last 12 hrs of its life. what else should have I done to avoid this? Jeff said- Your best bet is to use hotplug, which automatically instantiates drivers for the attached devices at startup. It doesn't change /etc/modules, it just re-detects at every startup. (Ubuntu uses hotplug and udev by default, btw.) ahh, of course, this is how knoppix works, and what I used to get back on the net. It found the nic! Best rescue disk ever! thanks both of you for your help, I have some homework to do - Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] /etc/module question
Subject: Re: [SLUG] /etc/module question From: Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 19:40:12 +1100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] quote who=Russell Davie neither of these added 8139too to the the /etc/modules file and the date didn't change so maybe the file wasn't touched. ? Yeah, depmod doesn't do anything with /etc/modules. Just add '8139too' to /etc/modules on a new line, or run 'modconf', which will add it for you when you select the module. - Jeff Thanks for showing modconf. /etc/modules was originally generated somehow and and I would like the system to do it again. This is so if I add or change another piece of different hardware the system spots it and loads the new module without me having to do: 1) a pci search 2) match the module 3) load the module 4) edit the /etc/module file for next reboot When I replaced the old nic the network was unreliable for 24 hrs and mission critical transactions were missed. It really spazed me out as I expected the system to automatically accommodate a hardware change and this took some time to figure out. Which was quite hard as I didn't have a reliable connection to the www to google-search for how to fix this. The system had updated itself last time I changed a NIC, and it didn't this time as I had expected it to, which is probably a mistake. This was in kernel 2.4.22 but now in kernel 2.6.6 it hadn't. Other systems (and OSs) I have used can do this, but not this shiny new Debian 2.6.6 kernel. why not? The point is: I wish to know how to have /etc/modules file generated automatically or have some way of automatically spotting when there is a hardware change and load appropriate modules at the reboot. TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] /etc/module question
Hi All How is /etc/modules made? scenario: I replaced a dying NIC (ancient DEC454) with a new RealTek 8139. The module for supporting a RealTek NIC didn't load at boot time (8139too) and so eth0 and networking failed. However lspci finds the NIC and the module is compiled and present in /lib/modules/2.6.6/kernel/drivers/net So far, I have found that /etc/modules provides a list of modules that the kernel loads at boot, and this module is missing. So I added it and now eth0 and networking comes up. How is this list made? depmod -a? or modutils? Can someone explain this? I thought it was generated automagically. This box runs Debian with a 2.6.6 kernel regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Banks colluding with Microsoft ?
; For what it is worth, when i hassled Westpac, they actually personally ; phoned and mailed me with an apology and a promise that they are actually ; working on making their website fully standards compliant. So far nothing ; has changed, but I live in hope. If you don't hassle them, they will keep ; taking the line of least resistance. Speaking of which, I just hassled some poor support guy from st george who couldn't really wrap his mind around the concept of standards, just err we don't support that. The problem is the people you talk to have no contact with the code and refuse to put you in touch someone who is familiar enough with it to be useful. I also encourage people to ring up and hassle them, the justification he kept giving was their numbers show only a tiny proportion of people use firefox. That certainly won't be true for long, even if that's the case now. They seem to be running something called 'browserhawk' but at version 7-something. http://www.cyscape.com/support/kb/XcIBViewItem.asp?id=854 It looks like they need to upgrade to version 8 which the vendor also endorses. I've cc'd stgeorge on this, let's hope they pay attention. r. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] commonwealth bank netbanking stopped support linux?
Netbank works fine, all you need is javascript support basically. So far it seems to work in any browser I have tried. I usually use it in konqueror (khtml) and it's fine. The address I always use to connect to is http://www.netbank.commbank.com.au/ NOTE: No https here it will redirect to a https:// url by itself. This box has a history of difficulties with Netbank. Netbank works fine for me (now) with Mozilla 1.6 and I have java enabled as a plug-in and disabled in 'Advanced' The ComBank site works better that way with this box, I don't know, just noticed that along the way. ie in Mozilla menu - edit | preferences | Advanced | Scripts and Plugins then in Scripts and Plug-ins dialog, tick box against Navigator I go in through the Combank front door - http://www.commbank.com.au/default.asp and click on Netbank login button. Ocassionally, in the past, the front door approach didn't work as it returned the browser back to the 'front door' without opening up the Netbank page, so go through - http://www.commbank.com.au/Netbank/intro/ go right to the end of the page and click on highlighted 'start' the Mozilla and java packages: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-show-versions | grep mozilla mozilla-browser/testing upgradeable from 2:1.6-5 to 2:1.7.3-5 mozilla/testing upgradeable from 2:1.6-5 to 2:1.7.3-5 mozilla-mailnews/testing upgradeable from 2:1.6-5 to 2:1.7.3-5 mozilla-psm/testing upgradeable from 2:1.6-5 to 2:1.7.3-5 mozilla-xft 2:1.6-5 installed: No available version in archive [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-show-versions | grep java java-virtual-machine-dummy/stable uptodate 0.3 java2-common/testing uptodate 1 java-common/testing uptodate 0.22 regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Banks colluding with Microsoft ?
; I used do do this stuff for various clients including the oil industry..
; and managed to keep interactive websites (orders, registrations, remote
; website updates..) operable and bulletproof with complex javascript etc.
; for the current AND previous versions of IE, NS, Opera, Knoqueror, on
; Win, Linux, Mac... all by myself. If they didn't work they could cause a
; shareholderor director to ring up and give me or the oil company an
; earful, which was a suboptimal outcome. So I struggle to belive that
; these genius graduate software engineers struggle with it. Trouble is
; I've forgotton all the technical stuff now and do other things. I'll let
; it drop here.
ok -- this is ridiculous. I've just tried st george with firefox,
Error: document.bhjvmd.getJavaVendor is not a function
Source File: https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/redirect.asp
Line: 11
source:
HTMLHEAD
!-- These scripts are provided under the terms of the BrowserHawk license agreement
and may not be copied or used otherwise. [7, 0, 1, 0 Enterprise] See cyscape.com for
details.
Copyright (C) 1999-2003 cyScape, Inc. All rights reserved.
--
noscriptmeta http-equiv=refresh content=0;
url=/html/redirect.asp?bhjs=0/noscript
script language=JavaScript
!--
function bhawkTest() {
var bhjv = escape('Java N/A');
if (document.bhjvmd) bhjv = escape(document.bhjvmd.getJavaVendor());
var rs = bhjv=+bhjv;
if (document.cookie.indexOf(bhCookieSess=1) != -1) {
document.cookie = bhResults=+rs+; path=/;
document.cookie = bhPrevResults=+rs+; path=/;
if (document.cookie.indexOf(bhResults) != -1)
self.location.replace(/html/redirect.asp?bhcp=1);
else self.location.replace(/html/redirect.asp?+rs+bhqs=1);
}
else self.location.replace(/html/redirect.asp?+rs+bhqs=1);
}
// --
/script
/headtitle/title
noscriptbody onLoad=bhawkTest();/noscript
scriptdocument.write('body onLoad=bhawkTest();');/script
script language=JavaScript
!--
if (navigator.javaEnabled()) document.write('applet code=JVMDetector.class
name=bhjvmd width=1 height=1param name=legal value=This is copyrighted
software and provided under license cyScape, Inc. (www.cyscape.com). All rights
reserved./applet');
// --
/script
/body/html
Does anybody know someone who works for these geniuses? There's no
reason this crap shouldn't work no matter what browser/platform you
happen to be on, isn't this the entire point of Java?
r.
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Re: [SLUG] Networking advice please.
My experience over hundreds of such installations indicates this: If your Cat5 cabling was installed by your friendly local electrician, you may find she/he has made the connection incorrectly. You will find that the NICs and the 100BASET switch will indicate that the physical connection is there (appropriate LEDs) but data will fail to be transmitted. Incorrect termination is most easily proved by the use of a 10BASET hub or switch which in almost all cases WILL work over incorrectly terminated Cat5 cabling. 100BASET will NEVER work over incorrectly terminated Cat5 cabling. On 14 Jul 2004 at 13:04, bill wrote: I have 3 pc's networked to an ethernet switch, which is connected to the 'Net via a modem router. All works well. My house was cabled for LAN with cat5 cable when it was built. I have connected a pc to each of 2 LAN wall outlets ( in different rooms) with a straight-through (ie not crossover) cable, and have tried connecting the ethernet switch to each of the 4 outlets at the LAN outlet point at the other end of the cabling in my Den. The appropriate set of lights on the ethernet switch fail to light up, no matter which of the 4 outlets at the wall junction I attach it to, even though the other end of one of these outlets has a PC (in another room) attached. Either all of the LAN cabling in the house is defective (unlikely as the other cables for Cable-TV and TV Aerial work), or I am doing something wrong re connecting the remote PC's to the ethernet switch. Should I be using straight-through cable or crossover cable from the wall point to the ethernet switch (I asume straight-through)? How can I test the cabling, short of purchasing an appropriate cable tester? Thanks in advance. Bill -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] remote desktop on linux accessing windows xp
See: http://www.tightvnc.com/ On 12 Jun 2004 at 10:05, Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit wrote: Hi, Is there any s/w out there that does this? thanks, Luke -- = Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit Mobile: 0421 276 282 = -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] moving partition hda9 - hda1
Hi I want to move the Linux partition in hda9 to hda1. Yes, after too much procrastination, Linux is been promoted from ext. partiton to replace the other OS! how can this be done with out trashing the system? I plan to copy on to another hdisk as well, though not yet installed. regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] browser not running cgi
it is, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/lib/azureus$ sudo ls -la /usr/lib/cgi-bin/htsearch -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 229608 Dec 7 20:11 /usr/lib/cgi-bin/htsearch Simon Males wrote: give the cgi script execute permissions -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] browser not running cgi
Hi problems with cgi and lots of questions for a newbie I've installed ht://dig to make it quick to search html on this box. When a word is searched with default search page the browser returns 'the file /cgi-bin/htsearch/ cannot be found. Please check location and try again' htdig built the database and htsearch runs from the command line. eg /usr/lib/cgi-bin/htsearch words=linux /tmp/result.html produces a web page. However, when its viewed in in the browser (moz), it will not build the next page. Apache is running and the ScriptAlias directive in /etc/apache/httpd.conf is set to the local location of htsearch ie 'ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/' There are errors on 'apache start' /var/log/apache/error.log: [Mon Apr 12 16:10:09 2004] [error] (2)No such file or directory: mod_mime_magic: can't read magic file /etc/apache/share/magic [Mon Apr 12 16:10:09 2004] [alert] apache: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName [Mon Apr 12 16:10:09 2004] [crit] (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to port 80 How to correct this? This is only a standalone workstation box and not wanted to serve pages to the internet, though connects daily to get email and do www. maybe this is to do with firewall? or the 'domain name' ? - which apache can't find and I don't formally have. what should I check next? is it necessary to have apache to serve cgi scripts? or is there something simpler? TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] download speed reduces when cpu active
Hi All The download speed drops as cpu increase activity. I see this from gkrellm. eg compiling kernel, opening OO, playing xine. What is happening here? is this normal? I don't think so. How can this be rectified? This is a debian box, with AMD 1.2thunderbird with Via chip set, and uses external modem. all help appreciated TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Who has spoken to Commonwealth bank Tech support?
hmm... gtop reports on this box, the java_vm needed 745272k to access CBA netbank account and with java off, CBA netbank still worked! Cool! now to adjust my laptop... thanks This one time, at band camp, Rick Welykochy wrote: One final note: THAT BANK is about the only bank that seems to require a Java client. I'm damn sure I have no java support on my laptop and I use CBA netbank at least twice a week. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] a kernel pickle: qt xlibs dependencies
make menuconfig didn't work either, and coughed up screen fulls of errors from checklist.c maybe a reinstall of all kernel dependencies? Weird. As long as you have libncurses5-dev, you ought to be okay. - Jeff Heck, its missing! now finding lots of other dependencies missing. strange thing is that when doing initial apt-get, I wasn't warned of any missing or ageing dependencies. how could that be? thanks Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] a kernel pickle: qt xlibs dependencies
You can install the current unstable versions of your X packages again by doing: apt-get install xterm/unstable thanks, I'll stay with /testing, just not game to live on the wide side or is there a better way of compiling this kernel? Use make menuconfig instead. :-) make menuconfig didn't work either, and coughed up screen fulls of errors from checklist.c maybe a reinstall of all kernel dependencies? make config worked! ;-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] a kernel pickle: qt xlibs dependencies
Hi All when compiling kernel 2.6.0, have become stuck at unmet dependencies with QT 'make xconfig' returns * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. an 'apt-cache depends kernel-source-2.6.0-test9' suggests: libqt-dev (amongst other deps) next, 'apt-get install libqt-dev' requires the dependencies xlibs-dev, libmng-dev however: xlibs-dev dependency can't be met as needs xlibs (= 4.2.1-12.1) but 4.3.0-0ds4 is installed. in this box 4352 packages depend on xlibs :-( so $64 question is: How can can a smooth downgrade of xlibs from 4.3.0-0ds4 to 4.2.1-12.1 occur without totally busting the packages on this box? or is there a better way of compiling this kernel? TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: OT BT878 BT848
Terry
try: http://www.aver.com/support/downloads.shtml
I have one of these cards and the MS side of things worked last time I
used it (before Linux ;-)
Okay, while we are talking Ms stuff on this list {:-)
Can somone recommend some software to drive a BT878 BT 848 capture
card un MS 98?
I've had these cards for a few years and used them under linux during
that time. Wonderful.
In comparison, the Ms Win9x software is total shite. Enter your config
everytime, select a source and it ignores it. shite shite shite.
Perhaps I should just roll out H323 under linux. Well, I would but that
would be beyond mum {:-) .
BTW: to keep the Linux flavour, ;-) what do you find works for the BT878?
regards
Russell
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[SLUG] debian install
Hi I want to update the packages on my laptop and wish to do this locally from the desktop machine. what's the best way to do this? where would be a good place to go to find out? apt-get from laptop? Knoppix 3.2 went on in late Oct03 and I've frequently used apt-get to update the system from debian mirrors. shameless praise just to say thanks to all for your support in helping me get my head around Linux and helping getting Linux running smoothly on my home pc. It is such a relief to have a reliable OS that just works for days and days, humming along, everything I throw at it is handled with ease (except scanning, still not quite right). The other OS has been such a headache for many years and this was becoming endless amounts of time wasted in administrating for reboots, bsod, frozen screens, viruses, worms, trojans and bothersome glitches. Which would happen several times a day. Now this box is Linux and hasn't crashed or mucked up for weeks, err, try months! which means I don't have to sit about for hours and hours administrating a busted system. now I can get on my life! yippee! a life! thanks for helping get my life back again. that's got to be the best Christmas present. thanks again and Merry Christmas to you all end regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] scanner problems
Hi All 1) scanner (cannonscan N650U) locks up when quiteinsane does large image and process won't listen to kill -9. The scanner is not available to other programs and is effectively out of action. How can this be fixed with out doing MS solution of rebooting? ( which I'll have to do, thunder storm brewing) 2)A BW scan of doc at 100bpi, image has ~1-2cm of black vertical column on RH side. This disappears at 50bpi, and gets larger at higher resolutions. Greyscale and colour is ok. This occurs with quiteinsane, kooka, xsane. this is using debian 3 , kde 3.1.4, quiteinsane 0.10-2 , kooka 4:3.1.4-1, xsane 0.91-6. TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives
I was thinking that GPL is more like Yokult(??) the good bacteria that you take daily than a virus. It is your choice whether you open the bottle and take the medicine. If you failed to read the label then you deserve the side effects. We really need to explain the GPL better. I like the analogy to a living system improved analogy: Yakult is a package of live bacteria and food supply. Yakult has bacteria that are good little workers producing a valuable end product: healthy GIT and immune system; like open source coders producing and refining software. The Yakult bacteria are adversely effected by heat, antibiotics, stress, trauma. Open source coder's efforts are negatively effected by restrictive legal and trade practices. The air-conditioning and legal frameworks of BSD/GPL/etc protects Open Source coders against some these adverse effects. Hopefully. The thoughtful designers of Yakult included a food supply for bacteria to enhance bacteria success. What does this in open source land? maybe: Freedom of information exchange: eg open slug email lists Open Source educational resources on community level Funding Both the protective measures and food supply have a particular bearing on survival of bacteria: with out them both, they die. maybe the same can be said for open source? regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] unable to spellcheck in 00 adn Mozilla
Hi all I'm having probs getting the spell checking to work in Open Office 1.1.0-2 and in Mozilla mail 1.5-2. aparently these two packages use the same spellchecker this box is running debian thanks in advance Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] MYOB on SAMBA share
A caution here. If as you say you have multiple users and those users are simultaneously accessing the MYOB DB, be very careful about disabling oplocks. Corruption may well follow. If you want to test, you should backup the affected folder FIRST before disabling oplocks. Then test with the maximum number of users pounding away at the same records. Follow-up by inspecting the carnage... ;) On 25 Nov 2003 at 18:22, Del wrote: How can I speed this up? (shoot the users is not an option :) Start with reading the SAMBA manuals (swat pages, on line doco, etc) about oplocks. Turning them off to get better MYOB performance might be your answer. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] sources.list
last wkend I test drove 'apt-spy update' to get list of debian mirrors then to found the fastest local mirror via 'apt-spy -d stable -a Oceania' which timed each of them. apt-spy will overwrite 'sources.list', so make a backup of the original. apt-spy can only write limited sources.list file, so edit the new sources.list to include full distro tree. double check the sources.list entry via browser coz sometimes it points to a empty directory, edit mirror list to remove offending mirror: repeat apt-spy update last sunday the fastest was ftp.wa.au.debian.org and I live in Lismore, NSW (!) east coast must be saturated with wend deb downloaders regards Russell OK, I installed the Debian distribution that SLUG fixed up in the one cd package. Installation was much easier than I thought on an old Compaq Armada. Everything looks good, BUT question: what should a reasonable sources.list file contain? Help appreciated, Cheers, Alan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Red Hat discontinues maintenance and errata support
Red Hat has announced it will discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 31, 2003. Red Hat will also discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release another product in the Red Hat Linux line. Instead, Red Hat will now sell the box-set of Red Hat Linux which now becomes Red Hat Enterprise Linux in three flavours: WS (workstation, what we now use mostly), ES (the stuff we use now on steroids), and AS (advanced server). The Red Hat Linux we know and love will supposedly become Fedora. But how Fedora is linked to Red Hat Linux is another question. So far, all that I have read says that it will replace Red Hat's RPM's. Linux is not mentioned. The announced pricing is as follows: RHLE WS (Linux 3) x86 basic $US179 standard $US299 Itanium,AMD64 --- standard $US792 RHLE ES x86 basic $US349 standard $US799 RHLE AS x86 basic $US1499 premium $US2499 Itanium,AMD64,IBM basic $US1992 premium $US2998 IBM series basic $US15000 premium $US18000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Red Hat discontinues maintenance and errata support
Red Hat has announced it will discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 and 8.0 as of December 31, 2003. Red Hat will also discontinue maintenance and errata support for Red Hat Linux 9 as of April 30, 2004. Red Hat does not plan to release another product in the Red Hat Linux line. Instead, Red Hat will now sell the box-set of Red Hat Linux which now becomes Red Hat Enterprise Linux in three flavours: WS (workstation, what we now use mostly), ES (the stuff we use now on steroids), and AS (advanced server). The Red Hat Linux we know and love will supposedly become Fedora. But how Fedora is linked to Red Hat Linux is another question. So far, all that I have read says that it will replace Red Hat's RPM's. Linux is not mentioned. The announced pricing is as follows: RHLE WS (Linux 3) x86basic $US179 standard $US299 Itanium,AMD64 --- standard $US792 RHLE ES x86 basic $US349 standard $US799 RHLE AS x86 basic $US1499 premium $US2499 Itanium,AMD64,IBM basic $US1992 premium $US2998 IBM series basic $US15000 premium $US18000 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] disregard previous mail
Please disregard my last email with subject `9fans', it was accidentally
generated. I considered not saying anything, but this is quicker than
explaining to everyone individually what happened. (Those technically
inclined can scroll down for a longer explanation)
Occasionally I use this script ``msg'' for firing off quick single line
messages to people via email. The ali command takes an alias and
sends a mail to the corresponding address in my aliases file. I hadn't
used it for some time and invoked msg without arguments for a usage line,
which I hadn't bothered implementing. This led to ali being run
without arguments, which prints _every_ address I keep. All very
embarrassing, apologies.
#!/usr/bin/env rc
w=$1 shift
mailx -s$^* `{ali $w || echo $w} /dev/null /dev/null [2=1]
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[SLUG] Re: no user access for pppd
so far.. As a user, I can dial isp with 'pon' and 'ppp connect kooee' however as a user I can't dial through kppp, have to be root any help appreciated Russell wrote: Hi, when a users dials to isp, kppp returns 'unable to open modem' however, success when root user can dial isp, with no errors or time outs. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] no user access for pppd
Hi, when a users dials to isp, kppp returns 'unable to open modem' however, success when root user can dial isp, with no errors or time outs. the users are members of group 'dip' the file permissions for pppd are set to suid the gid for kppp and pppd are set as 'dip' this is a debian box, with kde 3.1.4 and running kernel 2.4.18 compiled for this box. this occurs for existing and new users. this started to occur after upgrading kde to 3.1.4 from original knoppix install (to run gnucash 1.8.7) and kde has some problems, ie kde doesn't displaying some fonts, e.g. in kde help konsole and sysV-init editor, and and X display on monitor is reduced vertically (vertically challenged?) getting exasperated, maybe a kde downgrade? any help appreciated (esp on dialout, help other stuff is also appreciated) TIA Russell (baffled again by linux...) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] lost unicode and linux fonts in kde console
Hi while doing some upgrades, the unicode and linux fonts in kde console have diappeared. where can these be found? TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: kmail not starting
and from console kmail: relocation error: kmail: undefined symbol: _ZN8DwString4nposE This indicates that one of the libraries which kmail depends on has changed, and it can't link correctly any more. Did you do any package upgrades? J. right on, I upgrades via kpackage, ie apt upgrade. I thought that as knoppix is debian, then the kpackage would do all the package upgrades what can be done to make sure this is done? via command line or kpackage? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Athlon not cool in Linux
thanks for the help this worked, complied easily, and worked a first time, and runs at nice=19. it works for different mobos, though with this via chipset, hums through onboard sound. another prob, when it runs from the command line, it hangs the console! however, it will start as a cron reboot job. perfect! also try http://www.nt.phys.kyushu-u.ac.jp/shimizu/download/FVCool103.tar.gz seemed to work on my new motherboard this didn't work you also might want to try http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html it I tried resetting pci registers, but didn't cool cpu, coz another register in Via south bridge had to be set, and couldn't find out how to do this from command line. This is explained in the fvcool docs. In your case, setpci -s 00:00.0 52 will show you the current value of register 52. setpci -s 00:00.0 52=EB will set the value. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] kmail not starting
Hi esteemed Sluggers, Kmail is not starting from panel, and returns KDEInit could not launch 'kmail' and from console kmail: relocation error: kmail: undefined symbol: _ZN8DwString4nposE is there a lock file somewhere? maybe coz i didn't close kmail before shuting down last night? any help appreciated TIA Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Athlon not cool in Linux
thanks for that, you have understood exactly my point, surely software cooling is a better engineering solution to reducing heat by getting at the source of the heat, rather than adding more blowers, and other air-conditioning. why resort to expensive hardware cooling when software cooling can do a better job? More importantly, How can Athlon processors be software cooled without hanging 'after-market' fixes to do what already happens to Intel processors? how can idle state be incorporated into kernel compile for Athlon processors? Russell you also might want to try http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html it worked on my old motherboard. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 6, Issue 57
thanks for that, you have understood exactly my point, surely software cooling is a better engineering solution to reducing heat by getting at the source of the heat, rather than adding more blowers, and other air-conditioning. why resort to expensive hardware cooling when software cooling can do a better job? More importantly, How can Athlon processors be software cooled without hanging 'after-market' fixes to do what already happens to Intel processors? how can idle state be incorporated into kernel compile for Athlon processors? Russell you also might want to try http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html it worked on my old motherboard. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Athlon not cool in Linux
Hi all Linux runs the athlon 1.2GHz in this box to a steamy 46.5C , while in w'doz with CPUCool is a much cooler 32C. Without CPUCool, w'doz runs at ~same temp as linux: 46.4C. This is with kernel compiled for athlon from 2.4.19-16mdk, and with no load. I thought linux put the processor into automatic halt when there are no processes running. maybe I missed something when configuring to compile the kernel. this is done in w'doz by inserting Hex EB into PCI register 52 how can this be achieved in Linux with athlon processor so my box can be cool now summer is coming up fast? TIA Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] no bandwidth after connecting to ISP
Hi After connecting to ISP using KPPP, my box is not able to connect to any WWW sites or get email. this is happening on recently recompiled kernel, and on the original kernel kernel-2.4.19-16mdk. I have removed proxy, reduced firewall security, and not sure what to check next. any help gratefully received! TIA Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] no bandwidth after connecting to ISP
to all involved all better now.. It was the DNS settings.. and netstat -r is [EMAIL PROTECTED] russell]# netstat -r Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface eth01.001.lis.i * 255.255.255.255 UH 40 0 0 ppp0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U40 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U40 0 0 lo default eth01.001.lis.i 0.0.0.0 UG 40 0 0 ppp0 regards Russell On Sunday 14 Sep 2003 7:13 pm, you wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2003, Russell Davie wrote: After connecting to ISP using KPPP, my box is not able to connect to any WWW sites or get email. this is happening on recently recompiled kernel, and on the original kernel kernel-2.4.19-16mdk. I have removed proxy, reduced firewall security, and not sure what to check next. any help gratefully received! Do you have a default route out to your ISP? Run the command netstat -r as root. What do you get? DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] /dev/sequencer not working
Hi all on playing midifiles in KMid 2.0 and is returing Couldn't open /dev/sequencer. Probably there is another program using it. Ive read the midi doc, still cant get it to work what next? regards Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] music composition
Hi all I'm looking for music composition software that runs in linux any thoughts on this much apreaciated so far found UltiMusE-LX on freshmeat regards Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux Australian Case Studies and Testimonials
Hi I couldn't find the thread in Slug archive for Ernie Ball, v cool dude. If not, I find Ernie Ball's case (discussed here very recently) quite illuminating for customers - he's not a slobbering anti-MS nut, just a bloke who got hit by the SPA juggernaut and decided to make the change, and found it was a change for the better. - Matt so found this http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=lh and http://archive.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/11/27/021127hnerniball.xml?s=IDGNS reading this makes it easier for mainstream business who make decisions based on pragmatism rather than ideology any activity of BSA in Oz? are they out prosecuting non-compliant businesses? regards Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Linux Australian Case Studies and Testimonials
Hi thanks for that, I was wondering what to replace the WinXX stuff sent by the ATO :-) One problem area has been general accounting software. I've switched from MYOB to SQL-Ledger. You would get lots of stories from the SQL-ledger mailing list. I know there are quite a few aussies using it. The same probably applies in other areas. Regards, David. there are even posts on GST! - Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 28/08/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Stymied by missing '/mozilla/chrome.d/42checky'
Adam Bogacki wrote: Hi, I've mostly repaired the system but further dist-upgrade is prevented by the error message below - which I don't fully understand. I've had no joy with Google ... (apologies for any hand-copy errors). -- dpkg: error processing (var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-xft2%3a1.4-3_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new post-removal script returned an error status 1 Updating mozilla chrome registry ... cat: /var/lib/mozilla/chrome.d/42checky: No such file or directory dpkg: error while cleaning up: subprocess post-removal script returned an error status 1 -- When I inspect /var/lib/mozilla/chrome.d/42checky I find 42checky there in red lettering on black background, which I dont understand. Other packages install but the 42checky error prevents mozilla-xft installing which in turn prevents other moz components upgrading. Might be a symlink. man dpkg. Try the --force-remove-reinstreq option. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] WindowsUpdate.com is running a Linux server? O.o
See: http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/holes/story/0,10 801,84074,00.html ... Microsoft is already a customer of Cambridge, Mass.-based Akamai Technologies Inc., which operates a distributed worldwide network that can diffuse DDOS attacks..., ...according to Sean Sundwall, a Microsoft spokesman... Akamai Technologies use distributed clusters of Linux machines to proxy the MS site, thus diffusing DDOS attacks. That is why it seems that the MS site is running on Linux. Russell On 16 Aug 2003 at 20:00, Andar Broment wrote: According to Netcraft's what is that site running? Service ( http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.windowsupdate.com ) , www.windowsupdate.com is running MS IIS 6.0 on a linux box as of today. Conspiracy theory or windows update bracing for the MSBlast DDOS? Cool. Muskie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IMAP client on Windows
On Sunday 01 June 2003 07:52 am, Nik Belajcic wrote about: [SLUG] IMAP client on Windows I know this is not a Linux question in the strict sense, but snip I am trying to find something that would be more or less a Windows clone of KMail simple but functional - to use as IMAP Windows client. Pegasus Mail www.pmail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] difficult recruiters.
I'm sure this has been brought up before, I think the free software community (us) needs to do something about recruiters who *insist* on applicants submitting resumes and what-not in Microsoft Word format. I've been sending back a polite message saying that I simply do not use Microsoft software and direct them to http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- I'm convinced this has directly led to lazy recruiters simply putting me in the 'too hard' basket and moving on to the next candidate. It's completely unreasonable for such companies to dictate to the people who they depend on for their mere existence (the technical talent) and discriminate against those who don't happen to use their (poor) choice of internal documentation. I'm thinking of something like a public blacklist of recruitment agencies that SLUGers can boycott. I'd like to hear suggestions or discussion on what we can do about this increasingly frequent annoyance. Getting such an activity mentioned in a Newspaper would also be of great benefit in making these agencies think twice. Thoughts? r. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Question about text computer game from late seventies/eighties
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Re: [SLUG] quiet case fans
Thanks, I used what was at hand and cut a cardboard 'flange' to separate the fan from the case. This made a huge difference and no doubt rubber would be even better. Russell At 08:37 PM 31/10/02 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 23:32:26 +1100 Russell Davie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there.. As things get hotter, I installed some case fans and now the box its sounding like a hive of angry bees... Any clues on where to get quiet fans?, or just get some ear plugs? Get a 2nd set of fans, all equal to the current set, but put them in reverse, then, make sure they are seperated spacially by the [typical] 1/2 wavelength of the audio-noise you're hearing right now. Theoretically, if you're sitting in just the right place, then the opposing fans should cancel out each others noise... if you move though you could multiply the amplitude :P On a more serious note, there are fans out there which have good dB ratings, otherwise, perhaps consider putting some form of foam-filter on the outside, that would help 'muffle' the sound of the fans. Also, some thin rubber / tape strips on the parts of the case where the outside and skeleton case peices meet ( a lot of noise is generated simply by the case vibrating. If your case is on your desk, consider also putting it on a peice of high-density foam ( rubber like foam ). Regards. -- Paul L Danielshttp://www.pldaniels.com Linux/Unix systemsInternet Development ICQ#103642862,AOL:cinflex,IRC:inflex A.B.N. 19 500 721 806 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/02 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus @ http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 31/10/02
[SLUG] quiet case fans
Hi there.. As things get hotter, I installed some case fans and now the box its sounding like a hive of angry bees... Any clues on where to get quiet fans?, or just get some ear plugs? TIA Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 3/10/02
[SLUG] Question on recursive subdirectory in RH7.2 and RH7.3
I found this recursive link on my RH7.2 and RH7.3 machines: lrwxrwxrwx1 root root1 Oct 14 18:53 /usr/bin/mh - . Can anyone shed any light on it? It is creating havoc with a backup I am trying to make: /bin/tar cv /usr -zhf /backup/usr outputs: usr/bin/mh usr/bin/mh/mh usr/bin/mh/mh/mh usr/bin/mh/mh/mh/mh usr/bin/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh usr/bin/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh usr/bin/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh/mh... ad-infinitum... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] upgrading Mandrake
thanks for the clues on urpmi, went smoothly its nearly done, and xfs starts and stops properly xserver now only is stopped by a failing dcopserver the error message is a red or blue screen (yep, KDE has its own BSOD!) with a dialog box: could not read connection list /root/DCOPserver_localhost.localdomain_:0 please check that DCOPserver is running running dcopserver from /usr/bin returned: Aborting. $DISPLAY is not set. http://mobile.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS - Always be connected to your Messenger Friends -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] upgrading mandrake
Actually, run /etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs status xfs status returned: usage: xfs [-config config_file] [-port tcp_port] [-droppriv] [-daemon] [-nodaemon] [-user user_name] xfs dead but subsys locked so xfs seems to exist, though status is not an option? but running same command in directory returned ./xfs status xfs dead but subsys locked and xfs restart returned.. ./xfs restart Reloading X Font Server config:[FAILED] If you're having problems with this I really recommend using linuxconf. excellent suggestion!, connected and was able to urpmi.update when urpmi --auto-select kdebase XFree86 libqt2 or urpmi --auto-select --force perl curl couldn't get files of server, and returned: installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/setup-2.2.0-26.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-devel-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpng3-1.2.4-3.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libext2fs2-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libimlib1-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/openssl-0.9.6c-2.3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/ldconfig-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libopenssl0-0.9.6c-2.3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-2.2.4-25.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-98.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/fileutils-4.1.5-4.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mount-2.11n-4.3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/e2fsprogs-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm /mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/urpmi-3.9-8mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/imlib-1.9.13-2.1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/util-linux-2.11n-4.3mdk.i586.rpm Installation failed, some files are missing. You may want to update your urpmi database --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/02
Re: [SLUG] upgrading mandrake
At 12:18 AM 22/08/02 +1000, you wrote: However, I'm more interested in what happens when you run startx instead of startkde. startx returned this: VGA: Using 32 bpp, Depth 24, Color weight: 888 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 350.000 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode 1024x768: mode clock = 85.000 (**) SVGA: Mode 800x600: mode clock = 69.650 (**) SVGA: Mode 640x480: mode clock = 45.800 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 (--) SVGA: RIVA ULTRA TNT2: Using hardware cursor (--) SVGA: Using XAA (XFree86 Acceleration Architecture) (--) SVGA: XAA: Solid filled rectangles (--) SVGA: XAA: Screen-to-screen copy (--) SVGA: XAA: 8x8 color expand pattern fill (--) SVGA: XAA: Using 8 128x64 areas for pixmap caching (--) SVGA: XAA: Caching tiles and stipples (--) SVGA: XAA: Horizontal and vertical lines and segments _FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1' Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed' When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages XIO: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. try doing this: urpmi kdebase XFree86 I got 'upto date' so used urpmi --auto-select kdebase... and got huge rpm list 74Mg but when answered Y urpmi could'nt find the files, said urpmi data base had to updated That looks like you're running kde3 - is that from cooker? if so you might want to try no, no, not cooker, only from 8.2 vanilla install off planetmirror urpmi kdebase XFree86 libqt2 libqt3 urpmi returned libqt3 not in database ooh, what does startkde3 do? nothing...'command not found' Getting ppp going via the command prompt is challenging seems not to connect using modified scripts in /etc/ppp this which might be best to fix first to enable urpmi to get rpm from remote servers TIA Russell --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Free Antivirus http://www.grisoft.com/ Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.374 / Virus Database: 209 - Release Date: 9/07/02
Re: [SLUG] upgrading mandrake
Hi Russell, was going to mail you this morning to see how it was all
going...
thanks
Try putting something like:
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
snip-8---
still same error msg returned when startx
head /var/lib/urpmi/list.*
== /var/lib/urpmi/list.apt-get ==
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get/netselect-0.2-1.i386.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get/apt4rpm-0.50-1.i386.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get/apt-0.3.19cnc55-3sp_rh7x.i386.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get/libapt-0.3.19CVS-20011212.i386.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get/apt-0.3.19CVS-20011212.i386.rpm
== /var/lib/urpmi/list.contrib ==
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/contrib/kmago-1.1-0.i386.rpm
== /var/lib/urpmi/list.planetmirror ==
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/libext2fs2-devel-1.27-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/xchat-1.8.9-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/kde-i18n-da-2.2.2-2mdk.noarch.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/dhcp-devel-3.0-1rc8.2.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/apache-1.3.23-4.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/kernel22-source-2.2.20-9.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/LPRng-3.8.6-2.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/squid-2.4.STABLE7-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/imap-2001a-5.1mdk.i586.rpm
http://planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake/updates/8.2/lsb-release-1.4-1.1mdk.i586.rpm
== /var/lib/urpmi/list.rpm-system ==
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libgpm1-1.19.6-3mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/tk-8.3.3-12mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libstdc++3.0-3.0.4-2mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libimlib1-1.9.11-9mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libext2fs2-1.26-1mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-97mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libpng-1.0.8-2mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/rmt-0.4b25-1mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/libpango24-0.24-1mdk.i586.rpm
file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system/gnupg-1.0.6-5mdk.i586.rpm
and send me the output. Also /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
rpm-system file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/rpm-system {
hdlist: hdlist.rpm-system.cz
list: list.rpm-system
}
planetmirror {
hdlist: hdlist.planetmirror.cz
with_hdlist: base/hdlist.cz
list: list.planetmirror
update
}
apt-get file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/apt-get {
hdlist: hdlist.apt-get.cz
list: list.apt-get
}
contrib file://mnt/win_e/software/linux/contrib {
hdlist: hdlist.contrib.cz
list: list.contrib
}
Did you try running the update command?
no, I couldn't connect to the net
Actually, here's an idea - run rpm -qa and send me the output of that
arts-2.2.2-48mdk
bash-2.05-16mdk
binutils-2.11.92.0.12-6mdk
bzip2-1.0.2-4mdk
chkconfig-1.2.24-9mdk
chkfontpath-1.9.5-1mdk
codeweavers-wine-20020411-6
common-licenses-1.0-5mdk
cpio-2.4.2-20mdk
cracklib-2.7-15mdk
cracklib-dicts-2.7-15mdk
curl-7.9.4-4mdk
db1-1.85-7mdk
db2-2.4.14-5mdk
detect-lst-0.9.72-3mdk
diffutils-2.7-30mdk
drakxtools-1.1.7-97mdk
drakxtools-newt-1.1.7-97mdk
e2fsprogs-1.26-1mdk
egcs-1.1.2-58mdk
egcs-c++-1.1.2-58mdk
eject-2.0.12-3mdk
file-3.37-1mdk
fileutils-4.1.5-4mdk
findutils-4.1.7-3mdk
font-tools-0.1-3mdk
freetype-1.3.1-12mdk
freetype2-2.0.6-1mdk
gawk-3.1.0-3mdk
gcc-2.96-0.76mdk
gcc3.0-cpp-3.0.4-2mdk
gcc-cpp-2.96-0.76mdk
gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.16.0-1mdk
gettext-base-0.10.40-4mdk
glibc-2.2.4-25mdk
glibc-devel-2.2.4-25mdk
gnupg-1.0.6-5mdk
grep-2.5-0.f.3mdk
groff-1.17.2-9mdk
groff-for-man-1.17.2-9mdk
groff-gxditview-1.17.2-9mdk
groff-perl-1.17.2-9mdk
grpmi-8.2-3mdk
gtk+mdk-0.1.6-11mdk
gtkdialogs-1.2-2mdk
gzip-1.2.4a-9mdk
imlib-1.9.11-9mdk
info-install-4.0-22mdk
initscripts-6.40.2-41mdk
iproute2-2.2.4-13mdk
iputils-20001110-9mdk
itcl-8.3.2-7mdk
kdeadmin-2.2.2-12mdk
kdebase-2.2.2-93mdk
kdelibs-2.2.2-48mdk
kdelibs-sound-2.2.2-48mdk
kernel-2.4.18.6mdk-1-1mdk
kernel-headers-2.4.18-25mdk
kmago-1.1-0
krootwarning-8.2-13mdk
ldconfig-2.2.4-25mdk
ldetect-lst-0.1.3-8mdk
less-358-14mdk
libalsa1-0.5.10b-1mdk
libarts2-2.2.2-48mdk
libatk10-0.10-1mdk
libaudiofile0-0.2.3-2mdk
libbinutils2-2.11.92.0.12-6mdk
libbzip2_1-1.0.2-4mdk
libbzip2_1-devel-1.0.2-4mdk
libcdda0-IIIa9.8-3mdk
libcups1-1.1.14-2mdk
libcurl2-7.9.4-4mdk
libdb3.3-3.3.11-7mdk
libexpat1_95-1.95.2-2mdk
libext2fs2-1.26-1mdk
libgdbm2-1.8.0-18mdk
libgdk-pixbuf2-0.16.0-1mdk
libglade0-0.17-2mdk
libglib1.2-1.2.10-4mdk
libglib1.3_13-1.3.13-2mdk
libgmp3-3.1.1-6mdk
libgpm1-1.19.6-3mdk
libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-25mdk
libgtk+2-1.3.13-2mdk
libgtk+mdk0.1_6-0.1.6-11mdk
libimlib1-1.9.11-9mdk
libintl1-0.10.40-4mdk
libjpeg62-6b-21mdk
liblcms1-1.08-3mdk
libldap2-2.0.21-4mdk
libMesaGLU1-4.0.1-4mdk
libmng-0.9.2-1
libmng1
[SLUG] Loss Of Email Account details In Netscape.
Hi All, I'm using RH7.2 versions of Netscape 6.2..7.0 Mozilla (latest downloaded). My problem is after setup I am prompted to set up new mail account etc inc pop smtp addresses (which I do). All mail etc dowloads ok but when I shut down system restart next day I am prompted to set up mail again !!. Any ideas ?? Russell -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
