[RCSE] New RCSE?
I took it upon myself to create this Google Group to replace the soon to disappear RCSE. I hope this will work out well to continue the fine work Mike has done over the last 10 years. Google Groups has done a great job with filtering spam and keeping the system simple to use. Please let me know if you have and further suggestions. I'm sure there will be bugs to workout. The groups homepage is: http://groups.google.com/group/rcse The email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please tell your friends and get the word out. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Re: RC Hall of Fame - Antique radio collection
Kurt Zimmerman Wrote: Great collection! Yes I started in the early 70's with a World Engines M.A.N 123 radio... silver case. I think I still have it. I think it was being offered as a kit. Didn't see it in Ed's collection... Great site... Thanks for sharing. Steve Gibson wrote: If you want to take a great trip back in time for RC radios, go to www.rchalloffame.org http://www.rchalloffame.org Ed Crotty, out of Ohio, has put together a collection of over a 1300 radios. ( that is right, one thousand three hundred radios !) The site has pictures of almost every manufacturers radios made in the USA since the 1950's. I have spent at least a couple of hours looking over this vast collection. He also has documentary style comments on several radios and important people in the RC radio industry. If you started flying RC in the late 60's or early 70's, the site is a real trip down memory lane ! Steve Gibson !DSPAM:47b3b8ab557631759516234! -- Kurt W. Zimmerman Database Administrator www.RegionalHelpWanted.com,Inc. - Long Name. Amazing Results! - 2007 New York Technology Fast 50 Award - The Best Places to Work in New York 2007 - www.bestcompaniesNY.com. - WEDDLE's 2004, 2005 User's Choice Award Winner www.cupid.com One Civic Center Plaza, Suite 506 Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 845.471.5200 x170 f: 845.485.8398 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format I built one It even worked When I moved to Italy it didn't follow me. At the time it was a great system at at reasonable cost. The servos were small but strong. That radio took me through a lot of years. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=208625 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=818386 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] RE: accident
Big Creek and the McCrary family have always been so generous in allowing public access to the beach below for surfers and beach-goers. I've often wondered how many times his attorneys have warned him about letting hang-gliders and R/C gliders operate from their land. An incident like this could be a pre-curser to losing the site for everyone. I hope whoever sponsored this event takes more precaution in the future. I understand the injured person was a volunteer course-worker and suffered a severe cut to his neck from a participants glider. Original Message: - From: ZULIM SUZAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:43:33 -0700 (PDT) To: soaring@airage.com Subject: accident I had heard there was a nasty accident at the MOM races at Davenport a couple of weeks ago. I think I heard the individual had to be air lifted to the hospital. Who was the person and how is he/she doing? Will this jeopardize any future flying at that site? It would be a shame since this is one of our favorite spots to fly on the central coast. What sort of saftey precautions were taken during this contest? Was this an NCSS (Northern California Slope Soarers) sponsered event? Thanks for any info that can be given. Cliff Lindgren myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Last Call for Nats Registration
The time extension for the Nats registration worked great, however, this is the last reminder, they simply must get in by June 14th or we will not have enough time to prepare. Get them in now or your out of luck. I'll be posting the latest update tonight. Thanks and SEE YOU at the NATS! Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] 2008 Nats Registration Extended to June 14
Sorry if this is a duplicate, some said they didn't get through RCSE earlier. Because of the economy and other factors the deadline for the Nats 2008 registration has been extended to June 14, 2008. Please be sure to get your applications in ASAP so we can get you added to the matrix. Thanks Dennis Hoyle 2008 Nats Registrar WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Profi 4000 for sale
I have a spare Multiplex Profi 4000 with xtals for 18, 39, 44 and 51. It also has a synthesized rf module done by Ernie P. Transmitter is in excellent condition. Transmitter includes a case, neck strap, charging lead, spare battery and the manuals for the P4000. Price is $850 including shipping in the USA. Fred McClung Albuquerque NM _ Save hundreds on getting a Web Design Degree. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2121/fc/Ioyw6i3oHUE3HVhBpVuoDUJX0AQBqsaz5eDKnzVBwWsHHO8ltS5nt2/
RE: [RCSE] Benchmark Sailplanes
It hangs like an AVA. Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:53:19 -0500 Subject: [RCSE] Benchmark Sailplanes When sitting around discussing a new or different sailplane design, often one will hear phrases like, It launches like a __. Or, It ranges out like a _. Or, It hangs like a _. Or even, It lands like a _. Once a sailplane is mentioned in one of those scenarios, that sailplane becomes a benchmark. Here is a possible list of benchmark sailplanes through the years: Sailaire Aquila Sagitta Falcon Thermal Eagle Icon Supra Super V RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Best little Tip - what's yours?
At our club meeting last night, I was showing an Emerald that had a little delamination on the molded wing. When asking the best way to fix it, Martin Doney passed on a tip he had learned. It's a small thing but it really works great. He said to take a tee pin and bend the tip 90 degrees about 1/8 inch from the end. Poke a hole to drip in some CA. After the CA wicks in, just rotate the pin and use it like a hook to lift up the foam to the skin while the CA cures. These are the little tips that make repairs a little easier, what's your little tip? I'll collect them and post them on our website for all. Dennis Hoyle WMSS AMA# SNUT www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Pumpkin Fly
Well, it looks like Harry DeBoer, Martin Doney and I will be going to Cinci this weekend for the Pumpkin Fly. I also heard a few guys from the Detoit are a are going to. Anybody else going? Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Re: [RCSE]
Gordy, I plan on going to the Pumkin fly and plan on getting another I Beat Gordy button. ;-) Beware I now have a new Mantis X-Tail and it's really hungry! Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:57:41 EST Subject: [RCSE] I'm Going To Disney World!...and Pumpkin Fly and Tangerine..UPDATE Adding to the list of those who won't be there: Dave Zucker Skip Miller (clearly afraid of being crushed by the competiton!) Jim Monaco (F3J Team Mgr) None of the USA F3J team,senior or juniors (and they expect support from us? :-) None of the Italian F3J team Mark Smith Brian Smith Dale Nutter Jim Frickie George Voss Chuck Anderson Edgar, Andy or Mike Morjoseph Carl Strautin Not one single Futaba Executive Michael Volz No one from Hitec or GWS Hartmut Uwe Renschler (Picolario) Bob From Soaring USA George Joy (Sirius Chargers)... More later as confirmations come in :-)
[RCSE] Sailair kit for sale
Sailair Kit for Sale $200 plus shipping. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583757 Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Heat Shrink
Where can I get good prices and service. Cal
[RCSE] Test
Test
[RCSE] Supra Choice?
Well, I plan on getting a new Supra for the 2007 season and was wondering which version I should get? Barry has standard a carbon and kevlar molded versions. Any suggestions? I'm leaning toward the carbon version. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Nat Photos
If anyone has Nats 2006 photos online, please send me the link and I'll make a web page that lists them. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] Re: NEW in box Sharon Pro 3.7 X-tail Yellow Blue!
What is your asking price? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=108186 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=548512 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: FS Sharon 3.7 center section
Do you still have the center section? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=108186 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498497 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2 Meter Contest
All this talk of two meter prompts me to send out a reminder for the WMSS 2 Meter Soaring Champoinships. 26th Annual Midwest, 2-Meter RC Soaring Championships August 26 and 27, 2006 - Grand Rapids, MI 2-Meter Championships Awards for 1 to 5 for each day of the contest Two Day Overall Winner Task: Seeded Man-On-Man (MOM) contest. As many rounds of duration and landing as can be done in the time specified. Landing is a 5' tape, 25 points in or out. No re-launches for mid-air collisions in rule 7.2a. Classes: Two Meter Pre-registration is encouraged as we will let you know if your frequency choice is being used. Equipment: Winches with ball bearings and charger assisted, winch retrievers will be used. 250# line, line length 200 meters. All new line and Entry Fee: $10.00 with pre-registration by August 15, 2006, $12 day of the contest. AMA Sanction Contest. For more info go to: http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_2_meter.asp Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] For Sale: 2 NIB 94141 Servos
I have 2 NIB (tape seal never broken) Airtronics 94141 servos for sale. $65.00 for the pair includes shipping. Paypal of Money Order. Dan Ashenfelter Fort Dodge, Iowa RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR 8103 for sale
I have a two year old JR 8103 digital for sale (channel 51). Excellent condition $225 plus shipping. I will be at the Nats Monday through Friday. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
[RCSE] 30th Annual Summer Dual Soar-in
Looking for something to do this weekend? Come on out to West Michigan the weather will be great and the flying better. 30th Annual Summer Dual Soar-in July 8 and 9, 2006 Separate Contest Each Day Classes: Two Meter, Unlimited, RES / NOS Awards for 1 to 3 for each day of the contest. Task: As many rounds of duration and landing as can be done in the time specified. Landing is a 25', 100 point tape. No re-launches for mid-air collisions in rule 7.2a. More info in www.rcsoaring.org We hope to see you here. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
Re: [RCSE] First Sailplane
I built a 2M LIL BIRD by Ray Hayes and Sky Bench, just 2 1/2 years ago. I did fly Doug Adams Big Bird first , but made an Arboreal Landing (landed in a tree). Now I'm hooked! Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:06:41 -0500 Subject: [RCSE] First Sailplane Before Meyer and Hauch do a transformer thing on the other thread, I know this topic will take off because it hasn't been brought up in some time. Good one for a long weekend... My first Sailplane was a FF Jasco Thermic 50 that I wedged a Kraft brick into and crashed many times, it was frustrating as heck. Covered with tissue and dope. My first Sailplane that really flew was a WindDrifter, and I have one now that is the second one I built that looks like my first, and is over 20 years old. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] WMSS Woodcrafters Contest
The WMSS (West Michigan Soaring Society) is proud to announce the 1st Annual WMSS Woodcrafters Contest. The GLASS club was not able to carry on the tradition started so we picked up the ball. We have adopted the relaxed flying style promoted by Ray Hayes that woodcrafters enjoy. This is for anyone that enjoys building and flying balsa wood planes. Fly with your friends and new acquaintances in a relaxed setting. Start flying when you want to. No call up, no pressure. Lots of flying and fun with folks that love the smell of balsa wood and glue. Fiberglass fuses allowed, No molded D-tube construction (AKA AVA). June 24 and 25, 2006 - Sparta MI, north of Grand Rapids. Three ways to compete: Longest Flight CU-MAX: 3 FOR 15 Ladder Event One frequency per entry so hurry up and get registered online at: http://www.rcsoaring.org/contests/RC_Soaring_contest_Woodcrafters.asp Thanks for the bandwidth, we hope to see you there. Dennis Hoyle WMSS www.rcsoaring.org
Re: [RCSE] Olympics - off topic
HummmBeaver Stampeed well sighn me up. Heck I got into soaring because I read that the club had the need for Winch Masters.Justto add the soaring content back in (sort of)Dr Danny C.Williams Co Springs Co~~~From: "James V. Bacus"Subject:Re: [RCSE] Olympics - off topicHmm... that could be fun. ;-)At 08:44 PM 2/14/2006, Marc Gellart wrote:and a beaver stampede, really.JimDowners Grove, IL
[RCSE] RE: HKM Nimbus 4 servo suggestions?
Jim Just talk with John at HKM-USA. He has proably put more Nimbus's together than anyone in the US and fly's one himself. He will also have program for you no matter what radio you use also... He is a great person to talk with if you can catch him when he is not flying a BIG bird for a living Dr. Dan WilliamsColorado SpringsPSJust do not tell him I said this, it mite go to his head.lolFrom: "Jim Laurel"I am just getting around to setting up my 6.6m HKM Nimbus 4. What servoswould you suggest? A couple of options come to mind:-Jim Laurel
Re: [RCSE] SWC
What is a Supra Is that a new kind of Soap??? Dr. Dan WIlliamsCo Springs,Co ~~~ Heck, I'd be up for any news from yesterday or today... anybody fly a Supra in the F3J team practice?At 09:33 PM 2/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Any news about how it went today ?Regards, Dave Corven.Jim
Re: [RCSE] Re: Triple Tow
Simon I guess you were not at the NATS the year we were doing the XC areo tow if you are saying that Because the "Dangrous" statment was very tounge in cheek comming from someone that likes to areo tow invertedlol Dr. Dan WilliamsColorado Springs, Co~~ Dangerous is in the eye of the beholder. Pretty straight forward towing actually... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [RCSE] Re: Triple Tow
Well OK JimIf you put it that way I'm IN.Dr. Dan WilliamsColorado Springs, CoFrom: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Oh really, I thought you were going to fly the third glider along side Capn' Jack and I. Johnny can't wait! ;-)At 07:45 PM 2/4/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [RCSE] F3J Raffle Ticket Order Confirmation..The Gaunlet
Ok Gordy I am down for 150 ticketsand more to comeDr Dan WilliamsColorado Springs, Co
[RCSE] Re: Triple Tow
Jim I don't know if Johnny would ever do somethinglike that, I know I would not do anything that dangerous on tow.Of course as I remember he has a hard time flying straight and level on tow. Dr. Dan WilliamsColorado Springs, Colorado "When having to choose the lesser of two evils. Chose the one you have not done yet."May West.From: "James V. Bacus" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Johnny, once you see this I know you will want to try it... ;-)http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=672344Jim
Re: [RCSE] SWC sign ups
To all my Friends ( the few I think I have that is ) I just want to say I will not be able to go this year to the SWC. As it stands right now everything is pointing to the fact that our12 year oldson's brain cancer is back and will be going through treatment duringthis time and then some,so I can not justify leaving the family at this time unless I can find a way to clone myself quickly... So I will see some of you at the NATS"V" and a few other contest's later in the year if all goes well. Dr. Danny WilliamsColorado Springs, Co
RE: [RCSE] What is your favorite tool for building?
This is easy! Pictures of dead presidents Dr. Danny WilliamsColorado Springs,Co
Re: [RCSE] What are you doing to kill 5125/168 servos?
Last night Cal Posthuma and I were discussing the situation with the smaller digital servos. We've never had problems with them however, one of our fellow flyers did. He was using a larger battey pack, I think it was a 6 volt, to get more zip out of the contol surfaces and burned out some servos. We have been using the standard 4.8 volt with no problems. Dennis Hoyle WMSS Treasurer / Sec / Web Geek www.rcsoaring.org
Re: [RCSE] 75 degrees today
We're having a heat wave too. Our temps were up to 34 degrees and the wind about 10 mph in Grand Rapids, MI. ;-) I did get my HLG out to a local school and pitched it around some. The snow was very light and melted as soon as it hit the transmitter. I actually caught some decent wave lift and had one good flight. Dennis Hoyle - Original Message - From: A. B. Lyles To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:41:28 -0600 Subject: [RCSE] 75 degrees today Well the temp was 75-76 degrees F today in the Texas Panhandle , not that much wind. Beautiful Day. A.B.
Re: [RCSE] Test
It seems to be working okay now. Thanks Guys! Dennis Hoyle - Original Message - From: David J. Butkovich To: RCSD Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:55:04 -0800 Subject: [RCSE] Test test -- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Compulsion still available, reduced
Dave, e-mail me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] with contact info. I'll take the kit -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=61252 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=443078 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Kits for Sale:XP-4 and Pretty Mantis (sorry Phil: Aegea Mantis)
John, I e-mailed you, please get back to me regarding these items. Thanks Gus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=61252 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435429 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Kits for Sale:XP-4 and Pretty Mantis (sorry Phil: Aegea Mantis)
my correct e-mail address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=61252 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435429 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Polecat.....
Denny So if I read your up dated web sight correctly... it looks like you are now prodly giving the soaring comminunity the shaft? Tell me it is not so!!! Dr. Dan ~~~Dudes and Dudettes After much hard work by Ben Wilson the web site is finally updated and has a new look. Please give it a look and let me know what you think. Easier to navigate, user friendly and a kool random photo pops up on the home page from the gallery. If you send a photo of you and your plane you will eventually end up on the home page. There is more to come but, for now it is a big step foreward. One update will be comprehensive build instructions with lots of photos on Polecat planes ala Ben. If you've seen his work on the Alegro you know this will be a big step foreward.Denny MaizePolecat Aero717-789-0146www.polecataero.com
Re: [RCSE] Wanted: Seeded MOM Computer Scoring
Cal Posthuma created an Excel spreadsheet that we use for the 2M Seeded MOM contest. I'm sure he would share it. Basically it's a two step process. Dennis Hoyle - Original Message - From: Rick Eckel To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 09:57:03 -0500 Subject: [RCSE] Wanted: Seeded MOM Computer Scoring Has anyone developed a computer scoring program for Seeded MOM Contests? Would you be willing to share? Thanks Rick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Cal Posthuma in Hospital
I know this is a little off subject, but a long time flyer, Cal Posthuma is having difficulty with lung congestion and is in the hospital. He had and operation which installed a permanent tracheotomy and is in ICU recovering. As you know Cal has been an active soaring enthusiast for a long time and is a 2 time LSF level V and been working on his third time through. If you know Cal please take a moment to send a get well card. In know he would appreciate it. Here's the address: North Ottawa Community Hospital 1309 Sheldon Rd Grand Haven, MI 49417 Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. Dennis Hoyle WMSS
Re: [RCSE] Power System for Wind Dancer
Jack To answer the question we need to know what you want do with the WD. Are you planing to fly in F5J contests or is it just a fun flying plane? Current rules for F5J require a speed 400 motor and a max cell count of 8. For fun flying many more options open up. For the F5J plane the motor of choice is the MFJ rocket with a gear box (ratio of 4.5:1 or greater) such as the Cosmotec. The battery of choice (today) has been the GP1100 (8 cells). Prop selection is based on limiting the current to 12 to 13 amp. Currents greater than 15 a seriously reduces the motor life. I use a 12/8 or 13/7 prop. For fun flying the Outrunner brushless motors are a good choice. Motors larger than a stator diameter of 28mm won't fit in the WD. We have been testing with OR motors for a new class in F5J. Motors size will be limited. Currently we have been getting good performance with a Hacker A20-20L and either a 2S lipo or 7 cells Nimh. The outrunner motors give a little better climb rate than the S400 and are two to three ounces lighter than the S400 planes. The end cost for the Outrunner set up is comparable to the S400 + gear box. This is particularly true when looking at the cost of replacing the S400 motors on a regular basis. Take your pick and have fun with either. FredMcClungAlbuquerqueNM--"JackSuder"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:IamintheprocessofassemblingaDennyMaize(PolecatAero)WindDancerandwouldliketoknowwhatmotorsystemsomeofyouareusing.Orwhatrecommendationsyouexperiencedpeoplewouldmake.Iamcompletelyconfusedbyallthemotorsavailableandanyrecommendationsthatwouldhelpmemakeaselectionwouldbegreatlyappreciated.TIAJackRCSE-ListfacilitiesprovidedbyModelAirplaneNews.Send"subscribe"and"unsubscribe"requeststo[EMAIL PROTECTED]PleasenotethatsubscribeandunsubscribemessagesmustbesentintextonlyformatwithMIMEturnedoff.EmailsentfromwebbasedemailsuchasHotmailandAOLaregenerallyNOTintextformat
RE: [RCSE] Power System for Wind Dancer
Bren You are correct in that you can run the WD on a direct drive S400. However if you are going to compete in F5J you will need to put the gear box in. Performance costs money.FredMcClungAlbuquerqueNM--"Douglas,Brent"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I got a chance to fly the Wind Dancer Sunday with the stock Speed 400 geared setup, and it's more than adequate... Dr. Drela says that you can run the SP400 direct, also - the ship is clean enough that it can make use of the higher speed. An outrunner or a small, geared brushless would also work, but you can get this ship flying well for cheap. Good luck,Bren
Re: [RCSE] Anyone have a Avoex EZ 30 Sensord controler for sale??
You can use any sensorless controller as long as it satisfies all the other requirements.FredMcClungAlbuquerqueNM--"AlbertE.Wedworth"[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Folks Al I'm looking for a Avoex EZ-30 controller. Does anyone have one for sale??? Does anyone know if I change over to a sensorless controller??using my old Avoex sensored motor??? Avoex doesn't seem to support there old customers any more.. Bummer... Take Care. AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL )The Bag Lady Cell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
[RCSE] Avenger DLG
I noticed the http://www.jancomodels.com website is down, some friends we're asking about a nice DLG and I remembered the Avenger looked a lot like my Troy Lawicki Built Duckling. Anyone know if their still building and how I can get a hold of them? After they saw my 40+ minute HLG flight today, I think they may be sold on the sport. Thanks Dennis Hoyle WMSS LSF II soon to be III :-)
[RCSE] Re: Compulsion FS-01
Clark, call me asap 973*800*6842 (cell) Gus -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=61252 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=361956 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for Compulsion - FS01
As the subject says, anyone have one in good condition for sale? Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=61252 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=358290 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] DIY Telemetry
All I know this subject comes up from time to time, hence when I spotted this http://www.sparkfun.com/shop/index.php?shop=1cart=225472cat=1itemid=396; I thought a few of you might be interested to know about it. I saw these guys as they have a fixed price per area PCB manufacturing gig going on - $2.5 per square inch and will do one offs. They take a couple of weeks to arrive. Anyway, it's back to the saltmines Veronica mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Line FAI events
HI James and others, we used to use coaster sprockets on our old winches (pre moulded models) when we pulled less tension and they worked pretty well, but as the setup of the models got better we started destroying them fairly regularly. We now use KK series one way bearings with a shrink fit collar on the outside to lock the bearing up. In Australia we were fortunate that one of the Modellers designed and made some Aluminium castings to take the now standard Bosch Motor and the KK25 bearing in a nice package. http://www.airstrike.com.au/winches.htm Personally I still use a Lucas M45 (used to be a long shaft before I chopped it and added the outboard bearing) motor (more like your Ford long shaft) with a similar setup to the Bosch but with a larger diameter drum due to the slower rotating speed. I still like the original winches of unresisted M50's :-) 3 times the power of a modern winch. Regards Tim Mellor Kite House Port Fairy Australia (61) 3 5568 2782 ph (61) 3 5568 2461 fax www.kite-house.com http://www.kite-house.com www.kitebuggyaustralia.kite-house.com http://www.kitebuggyaustralia.kite-house.com Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 18:11:54 -0600 From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Line FAI events Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The winches use a coaster brake from a bicycle on the outside of the winch. If you hook the chain over the sprocket before launch it has a positive brake, great for windy days or for using mono line. Here is an old picture of my winch I found on my web site, one side you will notice the coaster brake. Sorry, those pix were off my old camera. http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/Frp.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 4/03/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sheldon of YNT
All Has anyone heard from Sheldon recently? I have sent him a coupld of email over the last month and not heard anything back, which is unusual. Thanks mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Calypso Cobra Tailplanes WANTED
Hi All, anyone out there with a set of Cobra Tailplanes for sale in good condition drop me a line. Regards Tim Mellor Kite House Port Fairy Australia (61) 3 5568 2782 ph (61) 3 5568 2461 fax www.kite-house.com http://www.kite-house.com www.kitebuggyaustralia.kite-house.com http://www.kitebuggyaustralia.kite-house.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 31/01/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Interesting Club Traditions
That one is easy. We got our first round in when the 'sprinkles' started. We all ready had 2 tent like shelters set up with our 'feast'. Trying to outhink Mother Nature, the CD called for a Lunch Break and we proceeded to the chow line. About the time everyone's hands were full with plates and cups, the wind came whipping across the field. One late arrival had set his planes near the tents. Well, we all tried our best to grab what we could but one of the corners got away from us and the aluminum pole was slammed downright across the fuselage of both planes. That is how Jim got to be the only pilot that lost 2 planes and didn't get to fly. R/Gene Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Interesting Club Traditions
Thanks for the reminder Gordy. Tidewater Model Soaring Society is holding their Annual Hardy Souls Contest, AMA Sanctioned, on January 1, 2005. We or someone is going to fly. The Pilot's Meeting is at 0930 and the contest will be held at the Isle of Wight Field located on Rte 258 between Windsor and Smithfield VA. Tasks, times, landing zones and points and 'special rules' will be announced at the Pilot's Meeting. Last year the temps were in the mid 60's and we had a turnout of approximately 22 Hardy Souls. Of course we don't always guarantee the good weather like that. One year we had a pilot that 'lost' 2 planes and he didn't even get to fly. Warm Regards to all those further north. Gene Juno Gift Certificates Give the gift of Internet access this holiday season. http://www.juno.com/give RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: For Sale, JR 347 with extras
Michael-Please PM me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 2aol.com. I might be interested. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=14550 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=309615 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] LSF Tasks
Rise off the asphalt, glad I missed that. Did have to land on asphalt once (Santa Rosa)- really tore up the ply skid/towhook. I learned using a piece of rug. But not for long - within a few months, all were releasing by hand. Regis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Actually while HLG to a TD flight is fine, when we first were using HLG for tasks there was a concern about HLG being used for the landing tasks of I and II. I rememeber fondly sitting around waiting for Lee Gray to come down in the early days, and we would toss our planes around. It was somewhat concluded that one could not use a HL to get a landing task. This was back in 73. We could toss our large 3M ships, make one landing pattern and come in for a spot. In fact, it made the tasks essentially a NON-task. The powers that be back then frowned on any attempt. If you recall, they also frowned when Walters, Pearson, Smith et. al. moved away from the ROG, that is Rise off the asphalt, if you few the old LSF contests back then. I concur will Bob Andris, if DLG was in effect back then any TD long flight or HLG contest would have definitely counted. And I believe that the simple toss of a HLG to a very short once around flight woul dhave been eliminated from the task. In fact, the landings might have been eliminated totally. I have seen many flyers go out from a HL long before the HL became as popular as it is. We even had issues about people who waited for a winch for hours (back before auto retrievers were other than people) only to have someone before them in line HL out to a long TD flight. As for me, I'll sign any voucher for a pilot who HL's out for any LSF task except landings without a TD flight. So who for DLG distance?? Chris Adams LSF 348 V #8 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:33 PM Subject: [RCSE] LSF Tasks Haven't checked email for a few days and missed the LSF/HLG/DLG thread. I'd like to comment. I just reviewed the LSF rules and didn't find anything that I think would preclude HLG/DLG contests from being used for LSF tasks. The launch methods are not specifically mentioned because they did not exist in 1969, however the rules seem broad enough to not exclude them. Of course, all other criteria must be followed. The tasks are tough but are meant to be achieved. Throw your HLG into a 2 hr. thermal--I'll sign your voucher. Mike Clancy LSF 926 V 92 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Slope Race, Whitaker Peak, Ca March 15-16
Hi Fellow Slope Racers, The Southern California Slope Racers are announcing a 2 Day MoM slope race for Saturday Sunday March 15-16 at Whitaker Peak, CA. Two classes: Both 60 Composite Unlimited on Saturday and pure Unlimited action on Sunday! The Location is going to be Whitaker Peak, CA. Whitaker has been the site of many slope races during the CSR days. Its long ridge faces dead bang Southwest. There is plenty of room to run the unlimited racers and plenty of pit area. The landing area is better than Parker or Vincent, but worse than Banos. We will also have a backup location close by to race at in case the wind is coming out of the East. One good thing about Whitaker is that there is a nice campground about a ¼ mile up the road. There are also motels, restaurants and markets in nearby Castaic The 60 matrix will be set at 10:30AM, and the first race at 11:00AM. So if you are going to run the 60 class on Saturday you need to arrive early. The Unlimited matrix will be fixed at 1:30PM, racing start at 2:00PM. For Sunday, we will update the matrix at 11:00AM and race by noon. For information on how a MoM slope race is run and class rules you can check out this link. http://www.sloperacing.com/Info/mom.htm This will generally work like the ISR held at Davenport CA, and will be a great opportunity to tune up your plane and your thumb for the ISR to be held in May. The entry fee is $5.00 for 60 and $10.00 for unlimited. If you plan on attending, please let me know. I need to know your Name, AMA# (AMA required), Primary Freq. and Backup Freq. The sooner that I have this information the better. Running a MoM is labor intensive and we can always use some extra bodies to help run things. It's a great opportunity to see some big fast sleds in some close racing. If you plan on working the race let me know. Stay tuned to http://www.sloperacing.com/ for the latest information. Mike Sheridan So. Cal. Slope Racers Huntington Beach, CA USA Cell# (714) 926-MIKE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- -- Here are the directions to Whitaker. From the South: Take Interstate 5 North Exit on Templin Hwy (North of Castaic Lake and South of Pyramid Lake), and make a left turn on the stop sign When the road comes to a dead end, make a right This road has two lanes in each side, when the road turns into a one lane road ... keep watching to your left for a small signboard of Whitaker Peak Park Make a left into the park, the road will fork immediately, make a left, and always stay left on all forked roads while going up the mountain After going up this gravel road for about 10 minutes, there will be a clearing and the road will level out a bit and there will be a dirt road to your left (this is where the road is blocked) ... just follow the dirt road, and if anyone is flying, you will be able to see planes in the air from this fork ... Here is a TopoZone map link that has the red X at the parking spot. The coarse is on the ridge that runs SE from the parking area to the knob. Looks like somebody made it with the prevailing winds and slope racers in mind. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=11n=3827125e=343174s=25size=m -- -- --- Another thing to keep in mind is that you are supposed to have a Forest Service pass. Information about the Adventure pass follows. I found this information on the Forest Service web site. http://www.r5.fs.fed.us/angeles/index.html BTW; It doesn't say how much it will cost you if you get caught without a pas Who needs to purchase a National Forest Adventure Pass? All Forest visitors are required to display the Pass in their vehicles when parked for recreation purposes on these four southern California National Forrests You won't need a Pass while parked at places where a site-specific fee is already charged (such as ski resorts or fee campgrounds.) You also don't need a Pass when you are traveling through the Forest but not stopping, when you are parked at your residence or at an organization camp in its permitted area, or are in an area covered by a Special Use Permit.A Pass is not required for people stopping for information at Ranger Stations, Visitor Centers and other Forest Service offices, or for Off-Highway Vehicles (green sticker.) Volunteers and educational institutions are exempt, but require an Administrative Pass issued by a local Forest Service office. How much does a Pass cost, and where may I get mine? * Daily Pass $5.00 * Annual Pass - $30.00 (good for one year from the month of purchase
Re: [RCSE] Surface flutter revisited
Full scale... This brings back a piece of memory some 2 years ago when I was in a Pitts and Tiger Moth as a passenger. When I asked the pilot why the control stick didn't return to the center when I released my hand, he looked at me as if I had asked the dumbest question in the world ! He then went on explained to me that once the plane was in the air, the airflow would keep the control surfaces at the trimmed positions. He was right ! he was particularly right about the Tiger Moth. I had to exert some real force on the stick before I could move it . Air flow did keep the stick at the netural position and I could get my hands off the stick without getting any fluttering. So full scale airplanes, at least some of them, do not have any expensive digital servos to nail control surfaces in place and yet they do not have fluttering problems. This had puzzled me for quite I while before I stopped thinking about it. Anyone has got any idea on the reason behind ? Y C Lui --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Conkling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that we should take lessons from the full scale guys. Keep linkages tight, hinges free, miniumize slop, use light weight control surfaces and make sure they are balanced. .bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Craig Toutolmin wrote: I want to run this by everyone for confirmation or correction. I have talked to several engineer types and have been told that what we are working with is a mass/spring system. The mass is the control surface and the spring is the give in the servo - assuming the linkage and hinge are tight, arranged to minimize the effect of gear slop and positioned to minimize torsional flex. The system will flutter at some harmonic. Large amplitude is destructive. A very small amplitude is the goal. The softer the spring and the heavier the surface (aft of the hinge line) the larger the amplitude of the harmonic. Smaller surfaces minimize amplitude. Lighter surfaces minimize amplitude. Surfaces counterbalanced to the hinge line will minimize the amplitude. Servos with a higher spring constant (firmer) will minimize amplitude. Whatdayathink? Craig Toutolmin RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] LSF Question
Jack, Not sure who to address my question to. Seems as though LSF does not recognize HLG contests for the Competition Requirements. I find this strange. One person explained that it was because the plane is hand launched not winched (fact).If we can substitute slope duration for thermal duration, that does not make sense. I believe it is an oversight since HL was not practiced in 1969. So my question is, is there a reason why HL contests do not count? Regis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may have been hashed out, but I missed it...so delete and go on if it has...or help me out. I just went to the LSF web site hoping to download a form to go to Level II...no form was found. Seems like participation would go up if the beaurocratic part of it were available by web. We have been trying to get new members to participate more by pushing LSF accomplishts. How can you do that if your VP (me) has been Level I for 25 years...8^0...Not trying to stick my finger in anyone's eye...;^)...just thought I may have missed something, somewhere...I'm good at it. Jack Womack __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF 8 HOUR BATTERY QUESTION THANK YOU!!!
I want to thank all those who responded off line and on line to my battery question. I have learned a lot and will continue testing and let you know what I ended up with and what plane I used. As to WHY? For me it is to complete something I started a long time ago and to be among the small group of soaring pilots who have accomplished the LSF Soaring Program. I can remember starting this with a Windward RE model and being so happy to make the level 1 landings and 5 min. thermal! If all goes well, will make the attempt the end of March and will post the story (short version) with some pictures. THANKS! Guy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Battery power for LSF 8 hour slope question
I have a chance to get this slope flight completed with the proper level two witnesses next month. I want to fly a six JR368 digital servo model for this. (I know, get a paragon.) Any ideas on battery type to make sure I have the eight hour go? Tx and Rx THANKS! Guy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Antennas in carbon booms
Kirk's test may be kinda rough but I won't agree that it doesn't tell anything. As a matter of fact, it is in line with the experience reported by many that installing antennas inside carbon fuselage does not result in noticeable reduction in range. Would like to hear some constructive suggestions on how to run a more reliable test to obtain more conclusive results but pls be practical. For example, I don't consider it necessary to measure the effect of carbon on the antenna pattern inside an echoless chamber. Y C Lui --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Simon Van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kirk, If I understand you correctly you have hooked up a length of wire to an SA I/P and introduced an external signal @ 75.5MHz. I will assume the wire is fed throught the SA's centerfeed (+) terminal, ignoring the GND (outer threaded structure and the SA's metal casing itself). I will also assume that you are reading directly off the SA. It does not tell you anything. Add to this that 1dB of any type of RF measurement, is not enough to make any decision as to whether there is actually a gain or loss in energy. Also keep in mind that an antenna on a RX with assorted wiring on servos etc represents a significantly different scenario than the test you have generated. BTW, do you recall the spec for the chipset used in the Vision's storage as to how many storage or input parameter changes before the system starts generates errors? Kirk Hanson wrote: After the discussion of the past couple of days, I decided to do a quick test. I took a 24 inch piece of insulated wire and connected it to an HP spectrum analyzer. Nothing magic about 24 inches except that it would fit completely in the arrow shafts that I have. The arrow shafts are a Beman ICS400 and an ICS500. I don't know the lay-up in these except they are carbon colored and have the word carbon on them. I found an ambient signal at 75.5MHz and used this as the transmitter. I found that I had about 1db more signal with the arrow shaft over the antenna. Explanations might be that the arrow shaft is longer so it coupled in more signal, or that the arrow shaft made the antenna impedance closer to 50 ohms (the input impedance of the analyzer). I also tried this at 36MHz and found that the arrow shaft over the antenna was about the same or slightly better that the antenna alone. Any comments from the RF engineers out there? Kirk Hanson TPG San Diego -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta RADIUS SYSTEMS Cogito-Ergo-Zoom IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Eraser Xtreme Tow hook placement?
Anyone have a measurement handy for tow hook placement in relation to the CG for the Erase Extreme V-Tail? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Transmitter pack - Walmart 1850 mAh AA cells
I lost a brand new Xtreme last year at CASA in quite spectacular fashion due to a dead cell in the (new) airborne pack. Don't try to save money on batteries. I saved about $12 on the airborne pack by using decent quality bulk nicads. For that $12 savings, I turned a beautiful $1000 molded ship into a pile of rubble that couldn't even be identified by dental records. Enron accountants would have been proud of my accomplishments. Please learn from my mistakes. Tom Siler Columbus, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] May Kansas Event?
Check the list calendar (Yahoo soaring group). It is all there. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Scott Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard that there was an event in Kansas in May for slope flying. Could someone please give me the details? _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] HS 225 Sudden Death Syndrome
I recently posted my own experiences with HS 225MG servos. I suffered the failure of four of these servos in the space of a month. The first was a flap servo on my Hera that failed in flight. (This had been in the plane about 2 years.) The other three were on the rudder and elevator of my wife's Chicago Style RES plane. These were brand new servos in a brand new airplane. The rudder servo failed first. My wife had just landed her plane. I noticed the rudder seemed to have been responding a little strangely as she came in to land. I asked her to wiggle the sticks on her TX. The rudder wagged twice, then twitched and died. The next week we showed up at the field and switched on the plane only to find the elevator servo was dead. A week later, the new HS225MG that I replaced on the rudder died again. The fact that the Glider King site has a conversation thread entitled HS 225MG sudden Death Syndrome is telling. I don't recall ever seeing a similar thread anywhere on any other manufacturer's servo. Vaughn Entwistle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] zagi question
Whatever I buy, I will be learning on without any instruction, other than the internet, so I'm looking for something forgiving but enjoyable. Given those parameters, let me strongly suggest the T-HAWK RTF 3-ch electric powered glider. http://www.readytoflyfun.com/thawk3chrtf.html I guarantee it will be forgiving and enjoyable and affordable. There are now many 3ch electric powered gliders now available that will meet your needs but none more forgiving and enjoyable and affordable. It's a good (and a lot less frustrating) place to start. Also note, you can get affordable replacement parts when you need them (and you will). Experts on this list will tell you to get the most expensive stuff you can afford but if they are honest, most will admit to owning more than one radio system. Regis PS. Wish these were avalable when I was learning. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Clay Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there! I found your email address on the Trick RC website, and I was wondering if you had any advice for someone new to RC Soaring. I'm debating on what my first purchase (doomed to destruction) will be - a MAD Highlander, a Zagi THL, or the Jok'Air from Northeast Sailplanes. Whatever I buy, I will be learning on without any instruction, other than the internet, so I'm looking for something forgiving but enjoyable. Would you recommend the Zagi THL over the other two mentioned? If so, should I go ahead and buy a high start? (My area doesn't have suitable slopes) And if I launch via high start, should I add a carbon spar? Lots of questions, sorry about that. Any advice you could give would be appreciated. Thanks! Clay Meyer Jackson, MS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] The 'old' Blue ones... servos that is :-)
Important to note, the 'gears' didn't break it was that group of pins. Call it what you want. The part that broke on both in my wing-maxx servos was a tooth on the large gear of the output shaft. I would concider that a gear break. The red servos have the brittle idler shafts. Aside from a few NIB problems (which were promptly corrected) and the two gears incidents the blues have woked very well. Craig RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] twisted servo extention wire source?
I'm looking for a roll of twisted servo wiring (3 or 4 lead) to make some long aileron connections. Anyone know of a good source? Thanks, Patrick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] light mist of spray adhesive - stop getting it everywhere
In a lot of building instructions I have seen they recommend putting a light misting of spray adhesive on part, on the building glass, on mylar strips etc. a) how do you create a light misting of 3M77 spray adhesive? Hold the can far away from the object d' glue? b) where do you all apply this spray glue so that it doesn't get everywhere in the workshop? I tried to cover everything downwind/downspray with wax paper but I still get little sticky particles where I don't want them (especially my fingers) Thanks in advance! Stuart RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LUNAK
Take a look at www.ICARE-RC.com He has two versions. The smaller one is nicely done and a fun little model. The large one is very well produced and should be a great performer. Good prices too!! Guy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SW Classic thoughts
Open letter to SW Classic CASL all CD's and pilots. Guy Russo CD AMA Leader Member Several posts have been made about the SW event. Hopefully you can read between the lines and CASL will discuss the event and consider the input. I plan to attend again as there is much to be gained by renewing old friendships and making new ones. Coming from Nth Idaho 27 degrees and flying in 80 degree weather in February has it's own reward. THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING ON THE EVENT! At the pilots meeting the CD announced that there would be no pop offs and no reflights for broken lines. Challenged on this he indicated that they always did this and then said something about they would judge the launch and decide. I am still learning to not be bothered by things beyond my control like poor field lay out, poor winch positions, short lines ( less than 660 feet by my paces) and odd landing tasks. I understand that contests are for fun and I had a good time! I also go to these events to measure my soaring progress against some of the top pilots in the world on a given weekend. There were three World Champions, several regional champions and many excellent flyers. I welcome those who fly for fun and those who want to compete. This is a competition and as an AMA sanctioned event AMA rules and regulations apply. This post is for all CD's at any event. AMA 2002-2004 Competition Regulations - Rules Governing Model Aviation Competition in the United States; 7.2 relaunches. A relaunch is permitted at the DISCRETION OF THE CONTESTANT when in the judgment of the CD; 7.2b. The CD supplied launching system malfunctions. Please see General Information Contest Directors; entrants naturally assume that AMA regulations apply-and deviations must therefore be clearly spelled out in advance, particularly in advertising, to attract out-of-towners. Any deviation from the standard rules as printed in the AMA Rule Book must be detailed in writing as part of the sanction request. No, I did not pop or break a line. I did however feel very sad for the other pilots who did! If you popped and looped you were in big trouble due the proximity to trees directly behind the winches. In the trying wind conditions I feel that pops and breaks should have been considered. It appeared that later in the day there were some reflights given for line breaks. Was this left to subjective judgment? Let me say in advance that we have all seen Larry Leadfoot break stuff. Larry can de dealt with by an observant CD. If there was ever an event where a good tow was needed this was it. Short lines, 10 minute task, obstacle course walk to the landings and down wind launches or landings and sometime both! Please read the book and please at any event designate a SAFETY LINE for the fun fly! Also, please advertise the landing task and other things in advance of the event as called for in guidelines I met pilots from all over the country and many travel at great expense to attend, please consider these folks next time. Thank you, out-of towner Guy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] The lighter the better in weak lift ?
I am not too sure. . . . . It was rather foggy ( so¡K NO thermal for sure ) off the slope today and the wind was really weak so I flew my Highlight HLG ( I believe it's the equivalent of Omega in the US. info at http://www.euro- sailplanes.co.uk/uk/html/sport-hlg/highlight.htm ) thinking that my model is probably the only one that can stay aloft. Much to my amazement, my friend¡¦s all-mold mini NYX ( http://www.euro- sailplanes.co.uk/uk/html/sport-hlg/mini-nyx.htm ) did equally well, may be even slightly better. Both models are 1.5m in span and have similar wing area but my friend¡¦s moldy is twice as heavy as my HLG. The fact that both models can stay aloft equally well makes me wonder whether weight is such a dominating factor in determining how floaty a glider is under weak-lift condition. I know the information given here is too rough and incomplete for any systematic analysis but if someone can suggest what MIGHT have counteracted the weight penalty of my friend¡¦s moldy, I will appreciate it. I have came across the theory that up to a certain point, increasing the weight helps to increase the speed and hence the ¡§Reynold¡¦s number¡¨ which is supposed to make the airfoil more efficient. To be honest, I have not done sufficient reading on aerodynamics to understand that theory well but I did try it out today by putting 10% more weight into my HLG but there was not any perceivable improvement. Having said that, the test was very rough so it really didn¡¦t prove or disprove anything. If anyone has any ¡§thumbs-on¡¨ experience in this regard, I would like to hear about it. Thanks, Y C Lui RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] RE: OLD LSF PICTURES
Bob Wakerley was also flying the full scale gliders in the early 70's. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig asked what became of Rick Walters. He gave up R/C for the real thing. He lives in (or near) Minden (near Reno), NV. He's a very successful and competitive soaring pilot and been on the US Soaring team several times. Many of your current full scale competition soaring pilots were modelers in the 70's (me included. I just never gave up the models). Gary Ittner is another US Soaring team member who flew R/C sailplanes in the 70's. In fact he showed up at the last Int'l Hand Launch Glider Fest (Poway, CA) just to see what was going on in the R/C world these days. Other R/Cers that you probably know and also fly full scale sailplane competitions are Larry Jolly, Paul Trist, Mike Reagan. We're trying to get Joe Wurts to join the club, but he's under some weird impression that he doesn't have enough time. Daryll Perkins is almost there, too. He recently earned his pilots license, but the plane he flies has a prop on the nose. He sat in my ASW-28 this last summer and I know he's hooked. Where else can you go after winning the worlds 4 times? A HREF=www.planes-wings-things.comwww.planes-wings- things.com/A has links to our club (full scale) at California City (near Mojave, CA). If you're in the So Calif area, come out and see what it's all about. The club is great way to get started in full scale soaring. Dues are $50 per month and no hourly charge for the planes. Yeah, you heard right. All the flying you can stand for 50 bucks per month (tows are about $25, but you usually only need one per day in the summer). Our club is unique in that it is geared towards X/C, competition, and even wave soaring in the winter the club fleet includes a Discus). Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent for this post, but full scale soaring is where many R/Cers end up. Ben Clerx LSF 305 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Finders Keepers?
I am very disappointed that there is any question about this. Does anyone think that they would not be prosecuted for keeping a bag of money that was dropped by a Brinks driver? Of course not. First, the owner (operative word) should file a Small Claims Suite. Second, members of the soaring fraternity should let the thief know that they will ALL testify in the owner's favor. If the thief is a modeler, make it clear that turn about is fair play. Nuff said. Regis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, I am very disappointed, in the finder. Of course the finder should return the plane to the owner. In our neck of the woods, some of our outta towners lose their planes during a contest, Having to go home without them, after an exhaustive search. If we do manage to find the plane the owner is contacted, and arrangements are made to return the craft, Its just the right thing to do...and we do not mess with the reward thing either... the finder should return the plane to the owner...this could have a negative impact on the owner, and ruin the whole hobby for him... That would be a very sad loss, for us all. Jack At 12:13 PM 2/8/2003 -0800, Dave Nasatir wrote: To whom does a retrieved model belong? The report that a model had been lost was widely disseminated in the local soaring community, along with the announcement tht the owner was prepared to pay a reward for its return. One member of the community who is also a commercial pilot performed a search of the area from the air and located the model. It was in the brushy area downhill from the transmitting tower shown in this picture (taken some time ago by John Ballou). http://members.aol.com/jlballou/soarheads/vollmer3.jpg Several attempts to locate and retrieve the plane were unsuccesful. Finally an indivdual did show up and after about an hour and a half of intense bushwhacking and exposure to lots of poison oak (a noxious local plant that when touched, may produce a serious rash) was succesful in extracting the model. He then left, and has not (yet) contacted the owner. On the basis of the information given above, what do you suggest is the proper course of action for the original owner (a local high school student who is relatively new to soaring). There is quite a bit of interest in the case as a number of individuals have been involved in the process of bringing this young man along, assisting with the purchase and prepping of the model, attempting to retrieve it, etc. Note, particularly, that the desired outcome is to increase the enjoyment shared by the local soaring community. There is no club involved, there is no desire (that I am aware of) to punish anyone or reduce the pleasure that we all get from the soaring activity. So. What should we do (individually and collectively) to bring happiness back to the slope? Thanks in advance. (the other) Dave in Berkeley, California _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 LSF Level IV CSS Silver http://www.silentflight.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Painting Fiberglass Fuses
One of the best ways to finish your fuse is to start with Krylon sandable primer. Sand this down with 360 or 400 wet sandpaper till it's almost off and fuse has a nice sheen. Spray with Kryon or Duplicolor (automive touch-up paint). Let dry over night. Sand down with 400 wet to just cut the paint surface. Then sand with 2000 grit sandpaper. Be careful not to sand through the paint. Once you have a dull sheen, polish out with 3M Finesse. This is a white liquid polishing mixture used to -you guessed it- take out 2000 sanding scratches. You should try a small section to get it just the way you want as a test and go from there. This will take a couple of hours one night but your finish will be mirror perfect. Your fuse will look like a molded finish. After a season of hard flying I find I just shoot from the wing TE forward, sand out and polish and it looks like a new fuse. It will take a little time to get it just right but well worth it. Good Luck. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Jr Service
I have heard some negative comments about JR¡¦s service recently in other forums and I am glad to see something more positive here as I have been using their radio equipment for very very long time. JR earned by loyalty by their wonderful service. Before I quitted this hobby many years ago, I had sent servos, receivers and transmitters back to JR Japan ( I am living in Hongkong ) for service and I always got my equipment back looking almost like new. I didn¡¦t have to pay a single Yen in the process as JR bore the full cost of shipping and servicing. Now I am back again and I am still using my old JR Apex Computer radio - JR¡¦s first generation computer radio. It had taken me many months to save enough money to get it. I was still going to school at that time. After so many years, I am wondering whether JR is still the good old JR I knew. No need for their service yet but would like to hear some more experience . Thanks, Y C Lui Hongkong --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], George Gillburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:13 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it worth sending a reciever back to JR for testing and/or service or would I be better off buying something else? Charles I'll bet it would be to your advantage. I just sent in 4 servos to JR, 2 ea 341 and 2 ea 351. I got back two servos they said were working properly (they had been in a crash which is why I sent them in) and two new servos, 1 of each type. The bill for this service was a whopping $ 7.50! I think it was well worth my investment. I don't think you'll regret sending in your receiver. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Soarcraft Diamant kit on Ebay!
Rare, out-of-production Soarcraft Diamant kit, NIB and fresh as the day it was packed. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=2563item=31118 87041rd=1 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Colouring Dope
I haven't used nitrate or butyrate dope in many years, but as a youngster, I often mixed colored dope with clear dope to get the effect your talking about. Regis --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Does anyone know how to colour dope? I want a semi-translucent red finish on my new plane. Thanks Richard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Sprit 100
Has anyone built the Sprit 100 with out any Poly-diehedral and if so does it tip stall with out it or does it cause any other problem's ? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Skegs YES!
Great Idea. Maurice --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Skegs
I'm sure that this discussion will probably never end anytime soon, but I'm always looking to learn the pros and cons surrounding this delicate subject. Although I've used skegs that may be easily mistaken for lost glider parts, I keep wondering why we continue to land this way, at least in the upper divisions of competitors. In the beginning, it did make sense for the novice pilots to practice and shoot landings without the fear of becoming an insurance liability. But now after all that training and practice (or lack of?), and having acquired barely enough skill to simply be in the same arena with some of the greatest thumbs out there, doesn't it also make sense to have absolute control of our glider's energy too? I trust that this method is not what we want to foster into our newer flyers and competitors. I've seen the looks on people who are inspired by our majestic gliders and who eagerly want to play, only to glaze over at the crunching sound of a beautiful (read: expensive) toy hitting the ground at a 45 degree angle. I like Larry's idea on creating a bonus for pilots who wish to address this energy management challenge for the rewards it offers. I'm sure it would be a great start to something new and a little more challenging. Maybe, it will just take one pilot, one who holds highly regarded stature, to stand up and proclaim Thou shalt not skeg the earth with thy glider!. Skilled pilots everywhere will simply follow suit, leaving all skeg possessions behind, and not ask any questions. I think I would like to be in that line someday. I know there are other issues, especially of safety, which create a wall to overcome. So for now, I will epoxy on my flame suit, retire to my workshop and sharpen my skeg for the next contest. :^) Patrick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
Do the GordySaur approach: I don't follow the rules. If you don't like it, file a protest... --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, This proposal shows how a well meant belief can determine how we do our hobby. The author, a respected, knowledgeable modeler, mostly... hotair snipped RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Contest Board Members
Thank you Jim for the information. Now I hope that we will all make our views know by contacting our representatives. Maurice --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jim Monaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are the AMA Districts with the states they cover and following that is the list of the soaring board members for each district. This information is in the AMA magazine and on the AMA site. Note that there are a number of soaring proposals available on the AMA site for review: http://www.modelaircraft.org/Comp/2005rulesproposals.htm Jim District I Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont District II New Jersey, New York District III Ohio, Pennsylvania, West Virginia District IV Delaware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia District V Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee District VI Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Missouri, District VII Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin District VIII Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas District IX Colorado, Kansas, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming District X Arizona, California, Nevada, Utah, Hawaii District XI Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington SOARING BOARD MEMBERS I: Fritz Bien, 41 Sawmill Rd., Concord, MA 01742 II: Roman Paryz, 59 Steinfeldt Rd.,Lancaster, NY 14086 III: Jack Strother, 1731 Lindhall Dr., Loveland OH 45140 IV: Douglas Barry, 5300 Olde Hillbrooke Dr., Glen Allen, VA 23060 V: Charles Anderson, P.O. Box 305, Tullahoma, TN 37388 VI: Rick Burnoski, 158 Canyon Dr., Bolingbrook, IL 60440 VII: Al Scidmore, 5013 Dorsett Dr., Madison, WI 53711 VIII: Barry Kennedy, 1935 Highvalley Tr., Grand Prairie, TX 75052 IX: Byron Blakeslee, 1448 W. Briarwood Ave., Littleton, CO 80120 X: Randy Spencer, 2617 Fisk Ln., Redondo Beach, CA 90278 XI: Dave Johnson, 16500 SE. 1st St. #114., Vancouver, WA 98684 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Re: Again with the skegs!
RC pylon racing a few years back to see that compromises have always been made to ENHANCE SAFETY and reduce risk for insurance purposes. My concern is after all the rhetoric were is the documented proof their is an insurance risk. How many claims have there been related to skegs. Maurice --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My reading of the proposal tells me it limits skegs, but does not totally prohibit them. I will admit I only read about contests, I don't fly them, so you contest-goers, tell me, have skegs gotten so large as to really present a danger in flight? AMA has prohibited things like nose probes/pitot tubes on scale models in flight for many years, this seems like another side of the same coin. Myself, I have always thought using these things was cheating. I thought part of the sport of flying was to emulate full-scale flying as much as possible, and judging how far you will roll-out or slide- out from a landing on grass to a spot in a target circle should all be part of the fun. I myself abhor lawn dart landings. I think it's a perversion of the landing task, and I'd prefer we went back to actual runway landings... But my opinion means nothing. Now, if that's what you like, flying ever-enlarging saw blades and scimitars on your planes, and that's what you all wanna do, I'm not going to stand in your way, but you only have to look at what happened in RC pylon racing a few years back to see that compromises have always been made to enhance safety and reduce risk for insurance purposes. It's self-preservation for the AMA. And it would have never come to this if some folks hadn't kept raising the stakes on skeg size just to win one more goddamn piece of wood. Competitive people will always push the rules up to their limit. It's up to the membership to set those limits and live with them. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fixing wing servo covers
Hi guys, Are there any neat ways to fix wing servo covers to all-mould wings ? Most people just tape the covers in place in order to make them easily removable when the servos need be serviced. The method is simple and practical but it's not cosmetically great. Thanks, Y C Lui RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Dallas to New England
Greetings, I will be flying to DFW (Dallas) tomorrow PM and driving a rental truck back to New England during the next week. I am hoping to break up the monotony of the drive with some flying so I will be bringing two dlgs with me to use for thermaling or light sloping. I will be traveling on I30 to I40 to I81 to I84 and will be looking for slope/thermal sites along this route. Any sites within 20-30 miles of these interstates would be of interest and must be accessable for a 24 ft. truck. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I have already found the sites listed at slopeflyer.com. Snowed in in the Berkshires, Bob Barrow RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Calendar?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soaring/calendar Is this just a 'personal' calender? If I post to it, do all 913 see what was posted? Not all use yahoogroups, I know - but still, 913 members! :~) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Estingoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, Is there a central web site with a calendar of soaring events for the year? I just went to the LSF site and other than the OVSS events and a big picture of Jim Bacus it isn't much help. Sorry Jim. Seems like this is easy enough to do and would be a big help for planning future contests and fly-ins. I know this is technical writing of sorts, but a little bit of HTML sure goes a long way Thanks, Lee Estingoy Overland Park, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Blade CG Location
Does anyone have a CG location for the Blade 2m glider? Thanks, Curtis Miner RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] MPX interface info (was: You gotta REALLY wanna do this!!!)
I'm not going to give away the hardest part (format of each model memory) but the following ought to give those keen programmers out there a good place to start: INTERFACE CABLE Details for an interface cable are available on Neil Gillies Seagull Technologies website. MEMORY ARCHITECTURE For an MC3030 with v3.0 software: 1) The MC3030 has 128 memory pages (page 0 to page 127), each holding 256 bytes of data. 2) Pages 0 to 99 hold the actual model memories. 3) Page 0 is the MX memory as referred to in the MC3030 manual (a temporary copy of the currently-selected model memory). 4) Pages 1-99 are the memories for the standard 99 models. 5) The higher pages (100-127) contain information on such things as v3.0 expanded features (eg servo slow settings, ZBV mixers etc), operating time, and text strings for the LCD display. COMMUNICATION SETTINGS RX232 serial port settings: 9600 baud rate, no parity, 8 data bits, 2 (or 1?) stop bits TRANSMISSION PROTOCOL 1) Transmission of memory page NN from TX to PC - PC: 0xNN 0xCF 0xCF (import request, page NN) TX: 0x06 (acknowledge request) PC: 0x14 (proceed with transmission) TX: (257 bytes of data for page NN plus error-check character) PC: 0x06 (acknowledge receipt of data) 2) Transmission of memory page NN from PC to TX - PC: 0xNN 0x8F 0x8F (export request, page NN) TX: 0x06 (acknowledge request) TX: 0x14 (proceed with transmission) PC: (257 bytes of data for page NN plus error-check character) TX: 0x06 (acknowledge receipt of data) Error Check Character: The ECC is calculated by progressively XOR'ing the 256 bytes of a memory page. Pseudo-code to calculate the ECC is given below: ECC = 0 For i = 1 to 256 do ECC = ECC XOR data(i) Next i To reverse-engineer the model memory formats: - import a memory page - modify something on the TX (eg servo centre, travel etc) - reimport memory page - compare both results - repeat ad nauseum Have fun, Geoff Sokoll RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Servo wiring
Hi folks ... Can anyone point me towards a good resource for wiring multiple servo wings. I'm getting ready to build my 1st full house ship and I'd like to have a tidy, robust means to plug the wing and servos in. I'm thinking of a sort of servo bus, were male and female plugs for wing servo's come together at the wing attach point. Thermals ... Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Custom Battery Checker!!!
George Steiner gave me a very cool battery checker I believe a construction article will be in RCM very soon. It puts a 500ma load on the battery as it checks the voltage. This will cause a bad cell to show up were, as a standard battery checker would show the pack as being fine. It is also useful when installing wing servos as it shows the amount of voltage drop out at the servo. It is also adjustable for 4 or 5 cell packs I'll find out tomorrow when the plans for wonderful device will be available. Craig D. Allen LSF 111 www.high-torque.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] RE/ Ejector Pins
Hi: I'm a Tool Die maker for 30yrs. And no way I would trust to use an ejector pin for a wing rod. They may not bend until it's to late then they will snap. The reason for this is that they are heat treated. This means that they are hard but some what brittle. In the past I have found a material that makes a good wing rod.The material will bend at extreme loads, but most likly spring back to the correct shape again when the presure is off. And if not your wing is probley broke. I have given this material to friends that had trouble with their rods and they were very pleased and never had a bent rod again. But I must tell you this stuff is expensive. The material is called VICOUNT 44 and has a rc of 44 but is not heat treated but very tough. Usualy has to be specialy order from a place that handles tool steel. The size can come in any size and yes I even ordered it in metric sizes,and usualy come in 36 lengths which I cut by dremel. This VICOUNT 44 material i can't supply and the only source I know of is ASSOCIATED STEEL in York Pa.. SO basicly you'll have to find a source closer to where you live if intrested. Bottom line is try to stay away from ejector pins because they WILL break. Not if! But when! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] WTB: 2M
Looking for a comp. 2 meter. Would prefer a Super V in good shape. Respond to my E-mail. Bob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Small Brushless Motors and ESC
Nobody has put in a good word for Astroflight motors, but I have a couple of Astro 010s and I love 'em. The 020 would seem to be a perfect replacement for a Speed 400. Beautiful workmanship and nice folks. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Can the new generation of computer radios do this ?
Hi Guys, I am wondering if there are any radio transmitters out there that allows the user to program the mapping between the control slot number and the control function. My old ( 10 years + ) JR computer radios have got the following slot assignment : Slot 1: Throttle Slot 2: Aileron Slot 3: Elevator Slot 4: Rudder As I am flying sailplanes, the throttle / gear controls are useless to me but I do need the AUX1 control very often as most of my sailplanes have seperate servo for each aileron. That means the receivers I use must support no less than 6 channels ( Thro, Ail, Elev, Rudd, Gear, AUX1 ) and this requirement has been restricting my choice of receivers. What I would like to have is a radio transmitter that allows me to swap the AUX1 and throttle control slot at the so that I can use a 4- ch receiver in the following manner : Slot 1: AUX1 Slot 2: Aileron Slot 3: Elevator Slot 4: Rudder Is this supported by the new generation of computer radio transmitters ? Thanks in advance , Y C Lui RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LOOKING FOR SCALE MOTORGLIDER PLANS
I TRIED TO FIND SCALE MOTORGLIDER PLANS ON THE NET AND FAILED.THE ONES I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE 1/4 SCALE TYPE AND WHAT I PLAN IS TO ELECTRIFY IT. CAN ANYONE HELP! I TRIED TO FIND CLIFF CHARLESWORTH PLANS AND FAILED,AND I SAW IN SE MODLER THAT SOMEONE HAD BUILT A SCHEIBE OFF OF CHARLESWORTH PLANS. SO THAT AS CLOSE AS I COULD FIND SO FAR. can anyone help! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Flap's
Hi- Everyone Merry Xmas a Happy New Year! I have been flying a rudder- elevator only Sailplane for several year's. I now what to start flying a sailplane with aileron's. I'm thinking of building the Great Planes Sprit 100 that has aileron's and flap's. What I would like to know is, can you use the flap's as Airbrake's by setting them on the throttle stick setting flap's level when T.Stick is in middle position, then when you push the stick one way your flap's would be down and the other way they would be up, would they be working as Airbrakes set up that way? I don't want to buy new radio, if I don't have to. Thank You RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Beware when ordering from Soaring Stuff
Check out what's reported by customers ( including me ) in : http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread.php?s=forumid=35postid=518159#post518159 Y C Lui :( RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] difference between F3B and F3F machines
Hello everybody, I am new to competition flying and wonder if someone can shed some light on the major differences between F3F and F3B ships. I have tried ( may be not hard enough ) to search for internet resouces on the subject but all I could find were rules and task descriptions. From the info. given in many vendors' websites, it appears that most F3B ships can be used for F3F but there are also models offering different airfoils for difference purposes like MH32 for F3B and RG15 mod. for F3F. I am in the process of looking for an F3F ship. Any advice on how I should choose my first model will be very much appreciated. Thanks, Y C Lui RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Painting EPP
Polypropaline doesn't bond to much of anything. In order to get a permanent bond it needs a surface treatment. In industrial settings the preferred method is to expose it to fluorine gas but that's REALLY nasty stuff and not for amateures. A much safer, though less effective, alternative is ozone. Put the model in a tightly sealed closet with an ozone generator for a few days and paint it right away becaus the surface effect of ozone wears off. Anything that sparks, like an electric motor with worn out brushes, makes ozone, so do un- insulated high voltage metal plates, like those ionic air fresheners. If you try it be careful not to start a fire! = === .~. -- /V\ . // \\ /( )\ Norm (^^)-(^^) http://www.gj.net/~nmasters/index.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
