RE: [RCSE] Latest news on 60 Acres South
Folks, I'm the treasurer of SASS. I am not sure how much money we'll need - we're fortunate that one of our very own is the one who filed the case. If you would like to make a donation, please contact me via an offline email and I'll send you contact information. Thank you for your support - I sure hope we're able to save this field! - Dave Brombaugh -Original Message- From: Martin Usher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 10:48 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Latest news on 60 Acres South Its not just soccer -- around here the problem was turning an open area into (yet another) golf course. You have to be careful taking on soccer head on because it involves so many kids so obviously anything that benefits soccer must benefit the community (right..) and we're such a minority that we don't have the votes or the fiscal clout to make a big noise. Its a little easier with golf courses because its quite obvious what's going on -- its a mechanism to convert public facilities for private use. Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] July 8th Seattle HLG Contest Canceled!
This is the future of Soaring in the Seattle area: http://www.twango.com/channel.aspx?channelname=nurflugel.public From: Adam Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 18:41 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] July 8th Seattle HLG Contest Canceled! Well, I hate to do this, but the HLG contest scheduled for July 8th at 60-Acres has been canceled!The county has decided to split our reservation with soccer parking and due to safety concerns and other coordination issues, the club has decided both activities (parking and flying) cannot be conducted at the same time. Additionally, the August 12-13th 2-day hand launch contest at 60-Acres has also been canceled, for the same reason.For over a decade, the SASS HLG contests have been one of the driving forces in HLG development, its tragic to see this tradition squash by short sighted county functionals. Some of the SASS members are planning some form of protest... the details are not yet finalized.Check the SASS_club Yahoo Group or SASS website for further details. Hopefully we'll still be able to have our September(23-24) HLG 2-day... it will be held in Tri-Cities at the Pasco Sod Farm.Details to follow. Therm als, RED -- Adam Weston Seattle, WA
RE: [RCSE] Re: Getting back to you..
Charly, If I read correctly, you're in the Seattle area. The Seattle Area Soaring Society flies at 60 Acres park, which is on the east side in Redmond. Check out our site: www.seattleareasoaringsociety.com Once the weather starts to get a bit better, we'll have our fun flys on Wednesday evenings starting the first week of May. Come on out and see what we're all about! - Dave -Original Message- From: Charly Whitaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 19:15 To: Soaring Subject: [RCSE] Re: Getting back to you.. Hello, I just wanted to say thanks to all of you for writing to me. Talk about getting an education while looking for a glider...LOL Also even managed to run into a fellow kite flier along the way. My name is Charly, and I own Kite Classifieds WWW.kitelife.com/classifieds and Steve Bixby and I have met each others a few times. (are you going to kite party 4 Steve? I can't make it this year) Back in the early 1970's while stationed in the military at Fort Monmouth, N.J. I got into flying gliders. In my off duty time I went to work for Ernie Weiss who owned J and J Enterprises. J and J produced such kits as the Banshee, the Trouble Maker The American Eagle glider, and Ed Norba's quarter midget mustang among other things. I also met Arnie and Ingrid Peterson who lived near Sandy Hook area. Arnie and a friend who I can't remember were developing the Nebula glider. That was my very first foam cored and wood sheeted winged glider. I was spoiled after that, and from then on everything had to have foam wings with wood covering...LOL I even made the rest of my control line planes with foam wings that were wood covered. I was lucky enough to have a friend with his own home made foam cutting system. I got out of flying in the early 1980's (about the time I got into kite flying...LOL), but I have always missed the peace and quiet I enjoyed while out flying my gliders some where. Like I said before when I got out of flying gliders the hot thing was foam cored wings with wood sheeting the wing. Thanks to all of you that have written I am learning that things have changed a lot since I left the sport back then...LOL So let me change what I am looking for just a little then. I would like a fiber glass or carbon fiber fuselage with foam cored wings covered in what ever they are using to replace the wood I use to cover wings with. I would also like to find a glider that is electric powered if possible because I hate using hi starts, and there usually isn't a lot of room around Seattle to lay out hi starts. I am also looking for a thermal glider and not a slope glider. Thanks Again Charly Whitaker RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m!
Do we have any idea how much an Apex will be? That looks like a pretty sweet 2M ship. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 19:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] You guys don't know JACK...er I mean Apex 2m! Well Well another 40oz!! 2Meter I Hope!! what does it weight RTF Will IBeat Edgar with it Mike.M Team SWSA Hi Mike, I am pretty sure that you are the only guy in the country who actually owns a scale or cares about the weight of a sailplane...and wants to beat Edgar! :-) I buy planes cuz I like them, like the look of them or like how they perform. I never buy because of an airfoil or weight and...I have never weighed a sailplane. But I think I have some advice that seems too logicalall these years that you and Edgar have been friends/competitors, you have always had the lighter 2mand he usually wins Maybe its time for you to do the opposite, sort of like George on Seinfeld did. Instead of distracting your efforts with thoughts about weight, just get yourself an APEX, get it tuned up and go out and whip the SoaringJunkie's butt ...er I mean win in a soaring contest against Edgar :-) He will be totally dumbfounded when you show up with this ship! :-) Gordy
RE: [RCSE] Berg receivers
Wow, that's not the story I heard. It's an interesting spin on the situation, but I don't think that's how it really went. From one of the RCGroups threads a few months ago, I seem to remember that it went like this - the place that made the receivers (somewhere in Eastern Europe?) heard about the sale, and sabotaged the final batch(es) of them. That place would no longer be the manufacturer, as Castle Creations was going to use a different one. Does anyone know what really happened with respect to the Berg -- Castle Creations story? - Dave -Original Message- From: Robert Samuels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:19 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Berg receivers I installed a Berg 5 ch receiver in my DLG. It worked ok when I was alone at the field. This Sunday I was flying near other flyers. When my plane got to within 20-30 feet from another transmitter it stopped responding and crashed. I duplicated the conditions and verified the response (ie: no response). I called Castle Creations this morning and was advised that these receivers were defective. The tech told me that Berg did a disservice to Castle by cranking out a whole bunch of below standard receivers just before selling itself to Castle. They will replace them with a new (hopefully working) receiver. Robert Samuels St. Louis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Unfortunate mishap with Molded Psycho
Folks, I had a rather rough day on Saturday. I was working on my first flight with my new JR9303, and using an airplane that has treated me pretty well this season. Today, though, was not my lucky day. Earlier in the season, the Psycho's fuse had taken some damage on the fuse, behind the wing. I stiffened the area with CA and then wrapped it with a layer of fiberglass, and the airplane has treated me quite well since. On launch, just before the zoom, that point on the fuse folded over, breaking off almost completely. The airplane fluttered down to the ground, and actually - it looked like I was almost going to get away with just having fuse damage!, but the right wing decided to break the fall of the rest of the airplane. Anyway, I'm looking for a new right wing panel and fuselage for a Molded Psycho - white on top, red on bottom if possible. I called Northeast Sailplanes, and was told that they are no longer making parts for the Psycho, so I'm hoping that one of you out there has some extra pieces with which you're willing to part. Thanks in advance. - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] OT: Timezones (was: OVSS #2)
Within Windows, Indiana, Arizona, and Hawaii have their own 'timezone' setting, I believe. If not, you can always set your time zone to EST (for Indiana), and uncheck the Automatically adjust for Daylight Savings box. -Original Message- From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 07:24 To: Denny Zech Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] OVSS #2 It's easy. Indiana is on Eastern time in the winter and Central time in the summer. :-) They would rather switch time zones since changing clocks twice a year is too hard. Question. How do people in Indiana and Arizona handle their computers automatic change to daylight time in the spring and standard time in the fall. :-) Chuck Anderson At 09:15 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: I have no idea! :-) I never can figure it out since we don't change our clocks. We are the same time as Chicago now. ! hour behind Ohio. Sort of stone age time. It's great in the summer, tee time is 5:30 a.m. Home before wife wakes up! Denny Steve Meyer wrote: At 07:19 AM 6/9/2005, Denny Zech wrote: Pilots meeting 9:00 a.m. fort wayne time So Denny is that EST? = CDT? Must get light there at 4am. Steve RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Lithium battery disposal (follow-up)
Thanks to everyone who replied! I know what I need to do now get a bucket of saltwater ready, discharge the batteries completely, then poke holes in them and drop them in that bucket. You all are a wealth of information. J - Dave From: Art Mcnamee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 13:52 To: Martin Usher Cc: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Lithium battery disposal Hi Martin and all, If the battery covering is puffed up don.t poke a pin in it or it will pop and burst into flame right now. Be sure you have slowly discharged it all the way first. They can be scary. Regards, Art Martin Usher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That procedure for disposing of LiPoly sounds a lot like what people used to do in England in WW2 to disarm an unexploded bomb (OK, so what they were doing was discharging a battery/capacitor that was part of the electric fuse mechanism, not neutralizing a modern type of battery but it has the same sort of ring to it) Martin Usher RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Buying batteries
Where do you like to buy your batteries for both the 3M sized planes, but also for DLG's? In my specific instance, I'm looking for a good place to buy 1/3AA cells, where I'll make up the packs myself (two Encores in the building table). I have found a particular cell that I want from batteriesamerica.com (AP-350AAH), and I can get them from there, but I'm curious where you all like to shop for batteries. I'll likely get my next 3M-sized battery pack from the same place, which is why I'm making this into a more general question. Thanks again in advance, all! - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
[RCSE] Lithium battery disposal
Folks, We have several Lithium Ion/Li-poly cells at work, two of which have gotten pretty bloated. It's my understanding that it would be good to get rid of these pretty quickly - ideally before we burn the building down. What is the best way to get rid of these batteries when they are in this state? Thanks in advance. - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] New post: hi starts
My favorite is also rather embarrassing. When I was younger, I built a series of Gentle Lady gliders. My first ended in disaster shortly after getting finished. I used to fly in the back yard of a junior high school. There was plenty of room to fly there. I had flight-tested the Gentle Lady with a few hand launches, trimmed it out, etc. At the time, I knew nothing of tow hook under the CG, I just put it where the manufacturer said it should have been. To this day, I still do not know what I did wrong, but... I stretched out the surgical tubing, hooked onto the glider, and let it go. It went up, kinda/sorta stalled, nosed over to the left, and went straight down to the ground. After hitting pretty hard, it was then dragged along the grass, through a football dummy (pieces flew everywhere!), through another dummy, and finally came to rest as the rubber no longer had any stretch in it. There seemed to be more balsa and Monokote scattered throughout the field than I ever remember seeing in the box. Needless to say, my newfound fear of hi-starts encouraged me to build and mount a .049 engine pod for the next Gentle Lady I built. Ironically, I also have had my best flight with a hi-start. Last summer, I had my first hour+ flight (about 1:20, this time a 7037 Compulsion) off a hi-start. - Dave _ From: Tom Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 17:59 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] New post: hi starts OK, time to change the subject from trashing everyone and each other its a friendly sport. What is your favorite hi-start story-- not winch, high start. Crashes, short high start setups, 2M 3M etc, Share some knowledge and fun stories Thanks for the BW tom attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] AMA numbers
(Not quite on topic to JDs question below) I was originally 202824. I renewed after a pretty long lapse, however I asked for the same number back, but they reassigned me a new one: L282. Ill take it. J - Dave From: John Derstine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 09:33 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] AMA numbers First, you can truncate your AMA by becoming a CD, mine is 1394, two digits dropped when I became a CD formerly 139444. Here is a question that I have been curious about. I originally joined the AMA in 1958 as a boy, I let it lapse until later in life and re-enrolled. My old number was lost forever. I am just curious whether anyone has a clue what the numbers where running in 1958? Idle curiosity fueled by the recent thread. JD
[RCSE] Compile: What do you have in your toolbox?
Wow, I got lots of great ideas here. I definitely appreciate your feedback. Its made me think a little more about what I should take with me. Some of the things make perfect sense to me pliers, screwdrivers, etc. Some of the things are things Id never thought of. For example, it never dawned on me to have a soldering iron at the field, yet many of you have one! I question whether some of these things actually fit in a toolbox (the collapsible pole, deep cycle battery, winch, and planes come to mind). Some folks stop just short of bringing the kitchen sink with them to the field, Ive noticed! Ive made some personal commentary in [brackets]. --- Common items (most folks who replied said they had these in their toolboxes): Needle-nose pliers Tweezers Allen wrenches CA (all types fast, medium, slow, foam-friendly) 5-minute epoxy Wing tape Hinge tape Scotch tape Transmitter crystals [not that theyre legal in the US; Im sure that they meant Tx RF modules! ] Receiver crystals Soldering iron (butane) Solder Screwdrivers (Phillips, flat-head, JIS) Knife Scissors Stopwatch Charger Radio [Is this actually a toolbox item?] Batteries Ballast / Lead Band-aids Sunscreen --- Less common: Hemostats [I dont even know what these are, I guess I should learn!] Other pliers (round, slip joint, locking, ball joint, Z-bend) Wire strippers Dental-type picks and probes Small mirror on end of a small handle Set of small wrenches Socket driver and sockets Crescent wrenches CA kicker T-pins 30-minute epoxy Mixing cups and stirring sticks Fiberglass (1.5 oz) Latex gloves Spring clamps Marking pens (large/small) Zagi tape Strapping tape Electrical tape Assortment of screws, bolts (nylon and metal), and nuts Clevises Ball joints Threaded rods Tyvek hinges Dental floss Rubber bands Zip ties Butane (for the soldering iron) Desolder braid Lighter Heat shrink tubing Leatherman Small flashlight Knife blades Razor blades Small pieces of foam (expanded polypropylene) Ziplock bag with tissue eyeglass cleaning stuff Scraps of plywood and balsa Saran wrap ESV [What is ESV? Yet another thing Im clueless about] Moleskin Practice landing tape Wind meter LSF voucher AMA/club membership card Personal walkie-talkies Gel cell battery Extra batteries (receiver, electric-powered) Servo arms / gear sets Spare servo wire Covering tools Scalpels Cordless drill Drill bits Propellers Wattmeter Multimeter Wrist rocket with monofilament and nylon string attached to a weight [not sure what this is or what its for?] Collapsable pole [In the toolbox?] Deep cycle battery [In the toolbox? Though someone did say they forego this when they climb a 500 slope] Winch [In the toolbox?] Turnaround [In the toolbox?] Planes [In the toolbox? I want to see this guys toolbox!] Frequency pin Neck strap Spare skegs Sunglasses General injury kit (ointment, band-aids, etc.) Hat iPod Pen and notepad/paper --- Worst case: Big black trash bag (in case of the unthinkable) --- Oh yeah, and we cant forget this [though I question how itd fit in the toolbox either]: http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jspitemID=1670itemType=PRODUCTiMainCat=701iSubCat=702iProductID=1670 --- Unique I cant tell the story as well as it was written, so here it is: Loren Blinde ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: A long. Long time ago (1979), I flew with some guys from the Rocky Mountain Soaring Association in Denver. One of their members had a large fancy tackle box, apparently suitable for a bass-boat episode of American Sportsman. Someone challenged me to ask him whats in his flight box. So I did. What I found was a quarter, a piece of lead, and a sock. Thinking about itpriceless. Another cute story I received: George Voss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: I rarely need anything for myself due to Murphys Law of inverse spares that states; you will only need what you dont bring and what you do bring is for someone elses repairs. Thanks again, everyone, for your input and commentary. Youre always a great source of information (and some humor! ) - Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] JR/Futa/Hitec synth module..has suddenly made a new product a must!
A channel scanner? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 13:04 To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] JR/Futa/Hitec synth module..has suddenly made a new product a must! Hi guys Now Hitec, Futa and JR have a 'Spectra-esque' module.Two dials to chose your frequency...BUT more importantly is a gadget that used to be a just cool thing to have, or a neat idea to have but as of today is a MUST for every RC pilot to own and use...before and after you turn on your TX. Can you guess what it might be? (keep it in the context of the fact that all TX's will now have synth tuning ...) This is not something that is suddenly sort of important, it is now a critical protocol for your piece of mind andsafety..And no the answer isn't the Shadow 3that's a given, no point owning a synth moduleif you don't own a synth RX of any brand. No this is way more critical. And it will be available for around $50 from Great Planes...more on its details in next months RCSD issue. So what has the availability of channel on demand Modules for all brands and synth RXs from all brands made a necessity? Gordy I pity the fool who doesn't get one..immediately upon ordering their synth modules.
RE: [RCSE] Safety rules - do you have them?
I was surprised that this didnt start a bigger discussion yesterday. Safety is something that all of us should keep in the forefront of our minds as we go to the field, even though its probably not something we like to discuss. Its similar to getting a will we all know how important it is, but its certainly not a fun/happy topic to discuss. I received three private responses: One person asked for a compile, as their fields only rules are You must be AMA, and no low high speed passes over pilots. Both of which are good rules, mind you, but wow. There are still a lot of opportunities for disaster with this group. Another person sent me their groups safety rules and bylaws. This group does DS; its certainly encouraging to see that folks involved in such an extreme sport have some rules around safe DS flying. I admit Ive never done DS, but I know that it can be extremely dangerous (and therefore, such a rush!) Finally, there was a person who said that creating formal safety rules was a recipe for disaster. He had some good points: AMA doesnt have formal safety rules. They have a Safety Code (guidelines by which to live) Rules become points for litigation Rules provide loopholes for site officials and insurance providers This persons final statement was: the single force powerful enough to destroy a club and lose a flying site is safety rules. All three of these folks provided some interesting and valuable feedback and insight. What about others? Id love to see more input and comments on the topic of safety. Even if you dont want to reply to the exchange, Id appreciate private replies and suggestions. Ill be more than happy to provide an anonymous summary as I did above. Thanks again for your time. - Dave _ From: Dave Brombaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 08:39 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Safety rules - do you have them? I tend to start decent discussions with my posts, hopefully this will be a good one too. Ive been selected as the safety officer for the Seattle Area Soaring Society (SASS) this year. I have been tasked with updating our Safety rules, and providing a nice, simple handout that covers both AMAs and SASS safety rules. Im including a snippet of the rules we used from last year. Note there are some of these with which I do not necessarily agree, which is why Im looking for alternative ideas (and, just general experience and ideas from all of you out there!). The SASS field is open for use for model rocketry, small electrics (Zagi-type/speed and smaller), and of course, soaring. While this sounds like a recipe for disaster, weve been pretty successful so far. Folks launching on the winch are very aware of people wandering around the field at/near launch, For those of you who are at a strict sailplane field what are some of your safety rules? For those of you who have combined electrics/sailplanes at the same field what are some of your safety rules, specifically around the interaction between the electric and sailplane pilots? Finally, for those clubs with websites, could you provide me pointers to your safety rules online, such that I can plagiarize^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huse them as a potential resource? Thanks again for your assistance, everyone! - Dave SASS 2004 rules snippet: * AMA required (even for 27MHz Firebirds) * Electrics in electric area * 4 electric pilots at a time, standing in pilot stations * Size limit for electrics (park flier size, stock speed 400, or as deemed acceptable by a member of the safety committee) * Prohibit Flying low over soccer fields/116th St/parking area/pits when occupied * Prohibit Launching planes from pits (area around frequency board) * Prohibit 1st flights away from pits * Check aircraft for flight worthiness * Winch training required to operate winch 2004 Electric Park Flier Rules * All fliers must have AMA Insurance and post it on frequency board (this INCLUDES aircraft flown on 27MHz frequencies) * Pilots MUST stand in individual pilot stations at West edge of field * Maximum of 4 Park Fliers in air at a time * Park fliers are limited to slow-flier stock aircraft with stock Speed 400 motor or smaller (unless certified by member of SASS Safety Committee) * Park fliers MUST limit flying to western 1/3 of field as indicated by marker posts (see map). No flying over the rest of field is permitted * Pilots may NOT walk directly across electric field when approaching flying stations. Pilots should walk to the western edge of the field first, then proceed south (or north) to the pilot stations, being aware of other aircraft in the air at all times * Electric assisted sailplanes are permitted to fly anywhere at 60-Acres and are not restricted in size or power
RE: [RCSE] Crank it up!
I'll be sure to include one of these in my what do you have in your toolbox? summary. :) -Original Message- From: Jimmy Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 04:27 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Crank it up! Better to save ones' strength for launching gliders http://www.mytailgate.com/Gas-Powered-Blender.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kool !! -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- I think I found the new accessory for the field beverage sphere! http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1670itemT ype=PRODUCTiMainCat=701iSubCat=702iProductID=1670 It would be a good way to keep Stumper busy after hours at the Nats... Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Safety rules - do you have them?
I tend to start decent discussions with my posts, hopefully this will be a good one too. I've been selected as the safety officer for the Seattle Area Soaring Society (SASS) this year. I have been tasked with updating our Safety rules, and providing a nice, simple handout that covers both AMA's and SASS' safety rules. I'm including a snippet of the rules we used from last year. Note - there are some of these with which I do not necessarily agree, which is why I'm looking for alternative ideas (and, just general experience and ideas from all of you out there!). The SASS field is open for use for model rocketry, small electrics (Zagi-type/speed and smaller), and of course, soaring. While this sounds like a recipe for disaster, we've been pretty successful so far. Folks launching on the winch are very aware of people wandering around the field at/near launch, For those of you who are at a strict sailplane field - what are some of your safety rules? For those of you who have combined electrics/sailplanes at the same field - what are some of your safety rules, specifically around the interaction between the electric and sailplane pilots? Finally, for those clubs with websites, could you provide me pointers to your safety rules online, such that I can plagiarize^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huse them as a potential resource? :-) Thanks again for your assistance, everyone! - Dave SASS 2004 rules snippet: * AMA required (even for 27MHz Firebirds) * Electrics in electric area * 4 electric pilots at a time, standing in pilot stations * Size limit for electrics (park flier size, stock speed 400, or as deemed acceptable by a member of the safety committee) * Prohibit Flying low over soccer fields/116th St/parking area/pits when occupied * Prohibit Launching planes from pits (area around frequency board) * Prohibit 1st flights away from pits * Check aircraft for flight worthiness * Winch training required to operate winch 2004 Electric Park Flier Rules * All fliers must have AMA Insurance and post it on frequency board (this INCLUDES aircraft flown on 27MHz frequencies) * Pilots MUST stand in individual pilot stations at West edge of field * Maximum of 4 Park Fliers in air at a time * Park fliers are limited to slow-flier stock aircraft with stock Speed 400 motor or smaller (unless certified by member of SASS Safety Committee) * Park fliers MUST limit flying to western 1/3 of field as indicated by marker posts (see map). No flying over the rest of field is permitted * Pilots may NOT walk directly across electric field when approaching flying stations. Pilots should walk to the western edge of the field first, then proceed south (or north) to the pilot stations, being aware of other aircraft in the air at all times * Electric assisted sailplanes are permitted to fly anywhere at 60-Acres and are not restricted in size or power. They are to be flown with power ONLY while climbing to altitude and flown as a glider for the remainder of flight * F5B type high speed electrics are NOT permitted at 60-Acres attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] What do you have in your toolbox?
This is perhaps the best story of all of them. :) Thanks to everyone else for your insight - I have a little work to do to build up a toolbox. Early in the process, someone asked for a compile. I'll put that together either this week or this weekend, and provide all of the suggestions that folks had. If you have anything to add - please let me know and I'll put it on the list! - Dave -Original Message- From: Loren Blinde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 22:24 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] What do you have in your toolbox? A long, long time ago (1979), I flew with some guys from the Rocky Mountain Soaring Association in Denver. One of their members had a large fancy tackle box, apparently suitable for a bass-boat episode of American Sportsman. Someone challenged me to ask him what's in his flight box. So I did. What I found was a quarter, a piece of lead and a sock. Thinking about it... priceless. Loren RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] What do you have in your toolbox?
Folks, I recently decided that it was time for me to start taking a toolbox with me to the field. I've been going with the theory: If I take it with me, that means I'll probably need it. The premise of that theory is - if I don't take any tools/glue/duct tape/etc, then I won't break my airplane! :-) It sounds good in theory. In reality, I learned last week that there are occasions where it is useful to have tools, even when there isn't anything 'wrong' with the airplane. For example - I have two new airplanes for this season. One of them needed a little servo arm readjustment. Fortunately, someone else at the field had a couple screwdrivers so I could make those adjustments. So, I ask - what do you keep in your tool boxes at the field? I'm finally taking the step and am going to put together a good set of tools (and supplies!) and keep them in one good, solid box. - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
RE: [RCSE] Re: Hey Melborne Australia, I'll be there Friday morning!
Did you bring any planes?? Are you kidding? Gordy never goes anywhere without an airplane; he will likely be buried with his Pike Superior. :) -Original Message- From: AntonL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 05:33 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Hey Melborne Australia, I'll be there Friday morning! Hi Gordy, Just happened to see your post about being in Melbourne. What sort of soaring were you interested in? How long are you here for? Did you bring any planes?? :) I'm mostly into slope soaring but I don't know if I can get out anywhere this weekend... Nevertheless, you're welcome to get in touch if you'd like some info about flying sites etc. Email: anton AT primarykey DOT net DOT au or phone: 9593 9550 (preferably after 10am if calling on the weekend! :p ). I'll give you the main flat-field address for soaring: Directions from VARMS site guide: VARMS (Victorian Association of Radio Model Soaring) Briggs Field Wantirna South Melways Map 72, C2-D2 Opposite Jenkins' Orchard, with red, green yellow apple sign. Gravel driveway South off High Street Road, enter through gate and proceed down track to car park left of hut. There will most likely be guys flying there on Sat and Sun if the weather is not too wet. Enjoy your stay! Anton -- AntonL AntonL's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=28609 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=337195 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] WTB: JR Freq Module (21, 32)
How about module swapping? It's the entire RF module, as opposed to just the crystal. -Original Message- From: Fred A. Sheplavy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 08:37 To: RSCE Subject: RE: [RCSE] WTB: JR Freq Module (21, 32) For what it's worth, FCC regulations do not permit crystal swapping in modules. Fred -Original Message- From: Les Grammer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:25 AM To: Soaring Exchange Subject: [RCSE] WTB: JR Freq Module (21, 32) Anyone have a JR transmitter freq module on 21 or 32 they're interested in selling? Contact me direct if so. (Anyone use the practice of swapping out the crystals in their transmitter modules? I'd be interested in hearing whether it's a 'safe' practice or not.) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] GPS receivers and transmitters (Was: High Altitude Glider/off subject)
This is kind of a neat idea. Now - does such a thing exist where a GPS receiver is in a plane, and the information is transmitted to a remote source? This would be the ideal altitude/distance/lost airplane item, I'd think. - Dave -Original Message- From: Jim Prouty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 06:04 To: RC Soaring Exchange Subject: Re: [RCSE] High Altitude Glider/off subject Standard GPS error (drift) can be as high as 16 meters due to the geometry of the constellation and path link errors in the atmosphere. The new WAAS enabled GPS receivers are supposed to be accurate within 3 meters 90% of the time. They use a ground based reference signal to give a more accurate positioning fix. Unlike the old DGPS, all you need is a WAAS enabled receiver to be able to get that accuracy. A neat test to do is take a non-WAAS enabled GPS and zoom in as far as you can on your position. You can actually watch the fix wander around your position as the fix drifts. There a several inexpensive GPS receivers out there that can be put in an RC aircraft to measure altitude and position. The Foretrex 201is very light, compact, and is WAAS enabled. There have been several posts on the list about using them and software that can be used to plot your flight when you land. Cool Stuff. Happy flying, Jim www.jtmodels.com What are the error/accuracy/precision rates of a GPS system and how do they compare to the pressure sensing systems? And of course, how does the cost of a GPS based altimeter system compare. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] New era or just hype?
Irony is: folks bashing Microsoft and Windows CE, and then saying Don't be rude. Let's be clear - Windows CE is the base operating system on any Pocket PC device (iPaq, etc.), but PocketPC is far more than simply Windows CE. Windows CE, by itself, is pretty stable. Put some crappy applications on top of it (or any operating system), and you're set up for disaster. I'd say that you would need to give the transmitter a try before judgments are made regarding Windows CE. I think that folks will be pleasantly surprised with it. - Dave -Original Message- From: Martin Usher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 23:57 To: Soaring Subject: Re: [RCSE] New era or just hype? I don't have a particular fondness for the Vole or its CE operating system but it'll probably work just fine since we're not planning to run additional software on the system (are we?). The two processors are almost certainly an ARM to drive the display and whatever Futaba's using in its current radios. Its not meaningful to talk about 'multiple processors', the things are so cheap anyway that it doesn't make sense to combine the functions (especially as the Futaba processor could do anything up to and including synthesize the radio signal). I like the display -- a decent display has been long overdue on these radios. I'd be concerned about breaking it, though (and it won't be cheap to replace). They seem to be using a reflective liquid crystal as well, the sort that may have a rather narrow viewing angle and a dislike of getting hot (as in I left it on the field in the sun while I was sorting out the winch and when I got back to it the dislpay was unreadable). There are better display technologies out there -- I think the organic LED might be the one that's the most robust but its too new to be in something like this. Maybe this is truly a solution looking for a problem? After all, we don't need the display when flying and we could just as easily program the thing using an external computer, even using something as small as a PDA. Martin Usher PS. I like the Palm OS. Its quite capable of running a radio, it'll do a lot more than two channels (don't be rude). I use both it and CE -- CE is flashy but it does a relatively poor job compared to palm (you only have to look at the new HP iPAQ, the $600 one, to see what I mean -- it looks really good, and its a major letdown when you try to do anything with it). I currently have a Nexio to play with -- a 5 screen, a $1200 price tag, a battery life that's insufficient (and it runs down when the system is not in use, losing useful settings in the process). Palms are not as flashy but they're more functional, IMO. Neither are suitable for an embedded system like a radio, though -- there are much better systems out there for that. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] Cashier's Check vs. Money Order
I don't usually like to meddle, but frankly - I'm getting tired of this. Is it *really* appropriate to bring/keep this to the exchange? Please resolve your issues on your own, and come to the list if you have no other available options. - Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 20:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Cashier's Check vs. Money Order Roy, Well, come to find out I sent Roy a Cashiers Check not a Money Order, could of fooled me. I wished I could open the jpg you sent Roy, but I will take your word on it, but the final two questions I have: 1) Isn't a Cashiers Check the same as a Money Order? Both are cash purchased documents of money transfer I believe and guarenteed. 2) Even though you stated that you are keeping the Cashiers Check, as proof that I am some felon, I think that it is appropriate that it be mailed back to me for proper disposal, don't you? Marc Gellart RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] What do you use as a building table?
I'm looking to invest in a new building table, but am curious where to go to get a decent one. Many of the standard tables I see are only 30 deep. Perhaps two of those together is good? Anyway, any ideas or suggestions you have would be great. - Dave attachment: winmail.dat
[RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to try to avoid in the future
Folks, I posted this to my club's email list last week, and someone suggested I post it here as well. A week ago today, I was out flying my Compulsion (I loved that plane! :-(). It was a good distance away, but still well within radio range. Clouds were coming in - still high in the sky, but they made a nice white background upon which to fly. I went into a turn, and the nice white wings of the Compulsion completely melded in with the background. Minor panic, but not bad, because I thought No problem, I'll just keep the turn in until I see the black of the bottom of the wing. I never saw it. I tried maneuvering a bit so that I would see a flash of *anything* - no luck. I finally dropped my landing flaps and hoped for the best. I spent the rest of the afternoon searching for it. One thing I learned - a 3M plane is pretty big when it's nearby, but when it's potentially lost in a huge space, it suddenly seems awful tiny. I did have my name and address in the airplane, hopefully sometime as the season goes on, someone might give me a call and let me know they found it. This got me thinking - what kinds of recovery systems do you folks use in your airplanes (or, do you?)? If I had some sort of transmitter in it, perhaps I would have had a chance at recovering it. The ideal 'something' would be a 'thing' that would transmit its location. The receiver would plug into a GPS, or into a laptop with a GPS, and be able to say Bing - your plane is here (give or take 3 meters). Thanks in advance. - Dave P.S. (I've already said it) - I really loved that airplane. A 7037 Compulsion is an excellent aircraft. attachment: winmail.dat
