Re: [RCSE] AMA RULE CHANGE SUGGESTED ABOUT SKEGS
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Re: [RCSE] Re:Planes for Sale
Damn Rob, it wasn't like you weren't smokin' our butts already and now you're telling us you are gonna smash the competition on the beach... Jeeze is there no justice in the world... Guess ya can't tell I'm suffering from a bad case of new ship fever and I know the cure but trying to get that $1400 past she must who be obeyed just ain't that easy... Oh well, back to watching the traffic accidents from my office window. You should see what 6 inches of snow does to life in Nashville, Ha!!! As a very wise man says at the close of his posts... Happy Trails... Joe Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Re:Planes for Sale Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:33:49 -0500 Careful there Jim. As I recall a Tsunami beat the Icon not too long ago. happy trails - Rob Glover (guy with a new Tsunami :-)) Or maybe he got an ICON and doesn't need the rest of them... RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. get 2 months FREE* RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Off Topic Aileron Question
Jimbo, So like since you are catching it anyway, what other dirty little secrets about that nasty green machine are you gonna cough up?? Come on, inquiring minds wanna know??? Joe Original Message Follows From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Off Topic Aileron Question Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:44:13 -0500 SssHhh!! what are ya doin maaa!! 8-) At 01:32 PM 11/6/2002 -0600, James V. Bacus wrote: At 01:22 PM 11/6/2002, Monkey King wrote: Has anyone done this? Does my logic ignore something interesting? Look at the Icon. 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 LSF Level IV CSS Silver http://www.silentflight.org RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Off Topic Aileron Question
Jim Bacus wrote: I will be flying the same models next season and I don't have any other models on order, I am pretty happy with what I have. 8-) Now there are really going to be some ticked off sailplane manufacturers out there. Hell they'll probably have to forego their vacations now... Bacus isn't reloading his quiver this winter??? What has the world come to? and a Republican congress too? Jeeze should we start building one of them ark things?? Damn Jim I just don't think that those old Icon things are really letting you perform at as high a level as you are capable of. So I'll give you $1K for the nice one right now, RTF of course... You do take credit cards don't ya, and that's hand delivered to my door right??? 8-) Joe Damn I want to win the lottery so I can buy an Icon Gullett Spring Hill, Tennseee Original Message Follows From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Off Topic Aileron Question Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:16:41 -0600 At 03:20 PM 11/6/2002, Joe G wrote: Jimbo, So like since you are catching it anyway, what other dirty little secrets about that nasty green machine are you gonna cough up?? Come on, inquiring minds wanna know??? I have the F3B wing in the matching color scheme and you might not know what wing I am flying if you don't look closely. 8-) (wing art will be a good clue) I have one of the new faster sampling LoLo's in it from Sheldon at YNT Design. What else do you want to know... no real secrets. I will be flying the same models next season and I don't have any other models on order, I am pretty happy with what I have. 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Cold Weather Sloping
Original Message Follows From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Cold Weather Sloping Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:50:57 -0600 At 02:30 PM 10/30/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big Thermos of coffee I bring that flying whether it is cold or not! 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net So Jim, now I understand why all the shaking was going on following those those two at release line breaks you had at Muncie last month!!! Maybe you need to think like warm milk or something as a substitute for all that caffine!!! Anyway, wish I could have seen the flying at the Pumpkin, your reporting was much appreciated and congrats on your top wood finish!!! Therms, (not like you need anymore than you already snag!!!) Joe Gullett Spring Hill, TN RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. _ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fusion Fuse Fixed - Thanks!
What the heck did we do before RCSE??? What a great resource Mike L. is providing!!! I received a number of good responses but went with the basic method suggested by David Schat and The Gordy which was to heat a wet towel in the microwave (dish towel for 4 minutes)and wrap and twist. So I wrapped the back half of the boom with the towel with the fuse in a jig to be sure the boom stayed straight. Let the boom heat up while holding the vertical stab just past vertical. You can feel the tension go and when this happened I removed the hot towel and put on a cold one. Set up very quickly. Whole effort took about 10 minutes. In looking at the plane in the bag laying down the bag does press down on the vertical stab when zipped as reported by Terry Mickle and this is true even using the large Jim Bagg bag it really presses down in the shorter Bag Lady bag that came with the plane. So I will leave the stab end of the bag unzipped and see if this prevents future problems. Anyway thanks to all who responded! Therms, Joe _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] New Contest Class
I get mine just as soon as you ship that evil red thing!!! Thanks for the donation!!! I'll be holding my breath awaiting the arrival... Oh yeah you are right about being the only ICON I guess I needed to say that the new class would be... ICON/Sharon Thumbs ONLY!!! Anyway good flying with ya this weekend!!! Joe Original Message Follows From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] New Contest Class Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:30:20 -0400 Joe, there was only one Icon ther. mine. But I do like the one Design contest. When do you get yours: 8-) Jack At 10:02 AM 8/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: Fellow Glider Guiders... Well I finally got to see, close up, a couple of ICON's in action at the Lexington KY. Contest this weekend, at least one of them was equipped with a vario no less. What legs that thing has!!! Which leads me to suggest that we need a new contest class in the Unlimited arena... Current Classes Sportsman Grey Expert New Class ICON's ONLY Yea I am saying that the guys flying those things are at a advantage and should be in a class by themselves (Not that it would help this dumb thumb pilot that much) but it sure would give some of the guys with those cheap $1K airframes a chance to have a class win without spending that additional $800... Think I'm just envious don't ya... Well you may be right... Okay, Okay no maybe about it... Anyone got one of them ICON thingies they wanna send to a good home for CHEAP??? I'll volunteer to take it off your hands and reduce the metal stress of having to perform up to the ability of the ICON. Not that I can get my skills up that high but hell I'll give it a try... For shipping info for those Icon donations pleae email me off list... But all kidding aside, I saw some great flying, in fairly challenging conditions, this weekend. A BIG THANKS to the BSS guys for another great contest!!! Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack Strother LSF President Loveland, OHLSF 2948 _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest
Jim B., Thanks for posting that excel file! That was just what I needed to convince me to order a LoLo. It was really interesting to see the rounds in this format and dude that was some really fine flying. Looked like rounds 4 and 5 were in some really tough air, but a 10 minute sled ride? Pretty impressive stuff! Do you think a GPS system could be developed that would be able to download data that would let you see the flight in 3D? That would be too cool!!! Therms, Joe Original Message Follows From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:05:55 -0500 I recorded both days of the DARTS contest on the LoLo logger, but below is a link to an Excel workbook (approx. 3mb in size) of just the five rounds flown on Sunday, the better of my two contest days. This is using the latest LoLo software that has a few more stats in it. ftp://66.106.109.240/pub/DARTS_MoM_081902.xls I am still a little surprised and examining the data, I knew the air was tough but jeez, I never got above launch height on any flight, and I did max one of those 13 minute rounds where I flew to the limits of my vision downwind, but obviously it wasn't very high. I hit a 710 ft launch in one round, I wish my launches were a bit more consistent, we were being assigned to different winches on each round, but the variation is probably more due to conditions. Jim At 07:13 PM 8/19/2002, James V. Bacus wrote: Maybe the lack of attendance was due to weather, there are usually about 10 more guys at this contest, but too bad for them because this was an exciting one. You see, sunny and calm and all good air makes for a nice day out, but does not test the pilots flying and air reading skills much. Take some marginal weather, add a little wind, then use a seeded man on man format preferably with rounds just long enough that most people can't max them and the game gets very interesting. This was what it was all about last weekend and it was some of the most competitive flying I have experienced this year. It's in conditions like this you see pilots have to make tough decisions in a rapid fashion, make hero or zero moves, and make saves and extend flights in exciting ways. It's in conditions like this that pilots can bury the flight group by being the guy that can use his wisdom, skills or strategy to stay up a few minutes longer than the rest of the guys in the flight group. And there was some burying being dished up Dayton style, a dish served cold. But with five rounds flown each day, there was enough opportunities to either serve that dish, or eat it, even in the same day. Thanks to Bob Massmann CD, Jerry Shape CD and the entire DARTS club for hosting a straight up good time contest in a seeded MoM format. The DARTS club field is a very nice field to contest from, they have a shelter to provide shade and yuk, rain protection if needed. They have seven strong real balls winches with all the equipment to do the MoM format in style. Hats off to all the pilots this weekend, that was some awesome flying guys, that's what it is all about. Jim At 05:39 PM 8/19/2002, Shape wrote: Thanks for the kind words Jack. If I do say so myself, Sunday was one of the more interresting contests I have attended or CD. Wild scoring changes all day. One why to make it a fliers contest is to make the tasks for difficult. I don't have the sheets in front of me but I don't think there was more than 8 maxes in the 13 min rounds, but the level of competion was outstanding. Jerry Shape - Original Message - From: Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steve Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest The D.A.R.T.S. contest had 18-19 contestants per day. Not enough for a Level V contest, either day. 8-) Its a shame that local support for this fine seeded Man On Man contest is waning. The Darts have been doing this contest for years. Day one was hosted by CD Bob Massmann with 8 minute tasks all day, Winds gusting to 20 mph from the south, most of the day kept your game tight. Thermals, if any, were tight and fast. Most tried sloping on the tree lines, Paul Siegle has left his Zenith in the top of one of the biggest trees. The S.O.A.R. was well represented by Jim Bacus, Tom Kallevang, and Jack Strother 1st - Jack Strother 2nd - Don Harris 3rd -Tom Kallevang ( I think) 4th - Jim Bacus 5th - I forgot. Day 2 was hosted by CD Jerry Shape, who was inspired by his attendance to the Chicago Fred eariler this year. started the day off with a 10 minute task, three 13 minute tasks and another 10 minute task to finish up. The winds were WSW and variable. total overcast day with storms looming to the south and east. A very interesting day, where you had better know
Re: [RCSE] RCSE ... a place to learn
Andrew E. Mileski wrote An infinite number of rednecks with shotguns, shooting at an infinite number of stop signs, will eventually compose the complete works of William Shakespeare ... in Braille. Hey!!! BANG, BANG!!! I resemble that remark!!! Damn gotta remember to cover the ole' neck when I'm out there!!! Braille Ain't that one a them South O the Border countries??? Joe, just another redneck in Tennessee shootin' at them red signs (matches the neck don't ya know) _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Russ Young!!!
Hey Russ, are you in town yet??? The email addy I have for you keeps bouncing... Please ping me back!!! Joe _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] What if....
Well most of you don't know that it was my boneheaded stunt at the Mid-South that started this thread. I lost a Psyko LT in the Georgia Jungle by getting way too far downwind. All the posts up to this point have all had good thoughts but when you lose a contest proven ship you tend to reflect on exactly what the hell happened that led up to the lost condition. The factors, at least in my mind, that led to this were... 1. Greed - I was in good air and wanted my time. I did not pay attention to the position of the plane in relation to what it would take to get it back. Brainfade one... 2. The wind picked up past the point that putting in the ballast slug was not only a smart thing to do but was needed big time to penetrate back from down wind. I had gotten home the day before from farther downwind and about the same height but that was with a ballasted plane, this time I didn't have ballast but thought I could do it anyway. Brainfade two... 3. I was past the point of no return when I finally decided to turn for home (see #1). I had the ship so far away that I really couldn't see what the plane was doing well enough to fly it smoothly. The only time I could actually see it was when the leading edge flashed and if that is flashing coming straight back at you, trust me you are not flying smooth. Add the fact that I was looking at a major forest to clear and the nerves just weren't under control either. Brainfade three... Any one of these brainfades could probably be overcome but three resulted in the loss of a very fine, contest proven, winning ship. Yes it was an expensive lesson and I'm hoping that some of this education will penetrate through the bone that is protecting the pea the next time I start to get myself in a similar situation. Also if it keeps any of you other thumbs from doing it that would be nice too. Therms, Joe The BONEHEAD Soaring Pilot Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Foamies
Mirko you really haven't expressed yourself completly about this subject. I think you need to share your true feelings with the group. I mean has a foamie had carnal knowlege with your sister? Or were you possibly scared by a foamie while in the crib? Just what brought on these hostile feelings towards an object that many of us hold in high regard? Maybe there are evil foamies running around out there and a warning needs to be issued. So tell us the rest of the story !!! Inquiring minds wanna know!!! Joe Original Message Follows From: menez_hom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Foamies Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 03:32:17 - Foamies SUCK Death to foamies. Mirko Bodul RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HLG cost
So I'm guessing that you sent the FTC a complaint about that 20 cent a gallon spike that we had on gas two weeks ago. Ah lets see that would have been a holiday, Ah supply and demand, Ah oh yea this is AMERICA free market and all that other stuff that makes this the greatest country in the world! Jeeze I really wonder if you guys that are complaining about paying for the best out there in DLG's do the same when it comes to the latest in electronics or autos or whatever else is the latest and greatest item that you lust after. I know that you probably haven't tried building a composite anything from scratch because if you have then you put little to no value on you time. The guys that are producing these wonder toys (I mean like if someone had told you that a HLG would be routinely getting over 100' of altitude on launch less than three years ago would you have thought that someone was nuts or what??) are providing great products at more than reasonable prices when you consider exactly what is involved in the process of getting the product to the market place. Hell I hope all of the suppliers of fine soaring products make enough profit to keep up with the demands of just doing business with our little group. So cut them some slack or do the deed yourself and if you do I predict your tune would change... So this ones for you Denny, Fred, Tom, Oleg, Joe, Daryl, Sal (yea even Sal deserves to make a living) and all you other producers and suppliers of SOARhead products THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: gldr guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] HLG cost Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 18:41:31 -0700 Is it just my imagination, or do the current crop of DLG seem to be quite pricey? Im looking at prices from a bit over $300.00 to right around $400.00. 400 dollars! Hell, my open class Mantis didnt cost much more than that! I guess its just a case of supply and demand and the consumer takes it in the shorts again! Walter --- GG Is your boss reading your email? Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane?
DAW 1-26 HLG - My first aileron ship and my first foamie. The plane that taught me more than all the others before or since. This was the first ship that I would try almost anything with, you know the loops, inverted, rolls, etc. cause it just kept on flying where as the previous ones were skeeters and goldberg's and they just didn't appreciate my landing technique all the time. It was nice to be able to fly the plane a whole lot more than the time it took to build it, which was not the case with the crunchies. I gotta thank Mr. Russ Young for introducing me to the 1-26, if he hadn't shown up at the dam that day, three years ago now, I probably wouldn't be flying anything these days. Good topic, look forward to hearing others... Therms, Joe, sure wish I was in Chicago this weekend, Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Soaring \(E-mail\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Most fun plane? Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:54:00 -0700 Mark said what is basically a truism: Fun comes in many forms... Pick your pleasures... So, now that the discussion is ebbing let's have some stories of your most FUN plane. How about it Less Grammer, Tom Nagel, et. al.? There are *many* planes in our backgrounds. Many of us can't even remember all we've had! But in my experience, only a few get into your heart. Let's hear about those. Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Rubber Duck Range Check
Hey Bob, I am closly following this thread since I recently installed a Smiley Duckie on my TX6A and have some concerns on a couple of my slope ships as to range issues. Your reply seems to offer a solution but for us technically challenged folks; just what is a 500 ohm BNC network terminator and where would one go about aquiring one of these. I am assuming that this would be a nubbie thing that will fit the connector that the duckie plugs/unplugs into??? Thanks for your input, Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Bob Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jack Dubich [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Rubber Duck Range Check Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 06:44:16 -0700 Jack, if your duck has a BNC connector just use a 500 ohm BNC network terminator. This loads the transmitter enough to simulate a short range check. Bob Pope Laguna Hills, CA Jack Dubich wrote: I've looked thru the archives to no avail and really do not want to start another rubber duck debate, btt, what is the proper way to do a range check with a duck, RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Open Season on Rubber Duckies!!!
Had the same thing happen to me about two months ago at Normandy Dam in Tennessee and the hit was a foamie war bird and the pilot was a preacher no less and yes it was on a Sunday afternoon. Gives a whole new meaning to being blessed.. 8O) Therms, Joe Original Message Follows From: Garland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring listserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Open Season on Rubber Duckies!!! Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 08:07:38 -0700 In line with the discussion on rubber duckies...we witnessed a rubber duckie being taken out (along with the pilot) during the warbird races at the Midwest Slope Challenge this past weekend! An errant foamie warbird (perhap two) nailed the antenna and broke it off along with part of the radio! Care to elaborate, George? Garland - Original Message - From: Charles Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring listserver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: [RCSE] Rubber Duckies!!! Good Morning! I have a rubber duck antenna... I had to use it one contest.. I had my unlimited glider as high as I ever care to be and have had no problems! So far I see no reason to not use one.. I have started useing mine for the discus launch glider. With the move to throw a discus launch glider I find the antenna on my Stylus to move ! I really don't want to tighten the set screw for the antenna to much.. I want it to move if I ram it into something . Cheers Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] sounds great!!
Yea, doesn't it... Saw a B-17 do several fly bys at the steeplechase race in Nashville last Saturday. Really cool. Most of the crowd I was with did not even have a clue that they were looking at history overhead... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Continuing to seek lift in all the wrong places! Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] sounds great!! Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:23:25 EDT Not soaring related, but what the heck.. For the 2nd time in the last 45 minutes, a B-17 been motoring down the coast. Wish you could hear it. Dan Fink _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Rob Glover
Rob, Please ping me back off list I have a question about the 5/4 contest... Thanks, Joe _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Favorite Transport Vehicle
Mark, Yep the C-130 is a fine transport but for frisbee flying nothing' beats a C-5. Took part in the great Viet Nam junkie retrieval exercise in '73 and got to fly in one back to Elmendorf Alaska from DaNang when our air evac jet broke down. Only 7 people on board and the whole back bay was empty. Do believe you could fly a M class HLG back there. Joe Original Message Follows From: Mark Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Favorite Transport Vehicle Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:43:01 C-130E Hercules I went TDY to Panama Central America back in the mid 80's and took my 2 meter ship with me to fly of my time off. Can carry allot of planes and pilots in that..lol Link below for 130 pic's Thermals Mark http://www.skyfamily.com/mhcommunications/index5.html _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Servo City doesn't suck. (Servo Savers)
Michael, Glider - Servo Saver... Yep, use them on all my flap servos on my TD ships and on all my combat foamies and they have saved my kibbles on more than one occasion. Can you say... Cheap Insurance. So don't think those red things are applicable in soaring... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Michael Neal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: rcse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Servo City doesn't suck. Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:30:55 -0800 FYI OK I posted a message over a week ago stating 'Servo City Sucks' Well they don't anymore. Here's what happened; 3 weeks ago I placed a phone order for a receiver that I needed for a race, and a servo. I place the order Friday and needed the receiver by the following weekend. On the following Friday, still no receiver, so I called them. Apparently the order fell through the cracks or off someone's desk. So I placed the order again. 1 week later still nothing, so I called again. Apparently the receiver I ordered was now on back order. Would have been nice if they had told me! So I had them ship out the servo I ordered and added another receiver to my order, not the one I wanted but at least I could make due. The following Tuesday I got the 2nd receiver and the servo. They also included some free servo savers and other misc. Yesterday I finally got the receiver I originally wanted, having missed my race. Anyway they were apologetic and sent me another free servo saver. So while I was not happy with the way they handled this, at least they made up for it and were apologetic and helpful when I talked to them on the phone. If your wondering what a glider would be using servo savers for, they're not. I use them in an off road racing car that does need servo savers. _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Slowing down
Dave, Don't think anything else is going on. They are probably referring to the use of TE camber. I know dropping the TE 2-3 degrees in a thermal is very effective on my Psyko's. Joe Original Message Follows From: Dave Seay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Slowing down Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:42:06 -0500 If you are dealing with one of the faster/penetrating airfoils, what does it mean when it is said about the plane that it can 'slow right down'. There's only 2 ways I can figure out how it does this... trim (tail dragging) or camber. Is there something else going on with these type airfoils I am missing? Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models
From: Andy Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Fly waht you built, not what you brought, that's right bought. Brought - Bought = Two different things... Me thinks Mr. Frank may need to upgrade the ventilation system in his shop those CA fumes can cause brain freeze... 8^) You say builder = hobby buyer = sport I say flying = FUN If you say building = more fun then build to your hearts content and hang the things from the ceiling but don't try to put down the guys that enjoy flying their toys whether they built it or not. After all in the final analysis this hobby/sport is called Radio Controlled Soaring and not Radio Controlled Building. Remember in order to soar ya gotta fly. Now there's a thought... Hum... weatherbug says 10MPH from the south, the back side of the dam should be working. Oh my what to do... Oh yea FLY!!! Joe Headin' to the slope Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models
Well I guess I'll wade into to this one as a reply to Jeff and the topic in general... I too am fairly new to the competition scene and if anyone had told me a couple of years ago I would spend what I have over the last 6-8 months on planes, radios, flight packs, winch, etc. I would have called them NUTS. However in making the change from just guiding gliders to competing I considered the following items and the cost is not as great as I first thought... In the past I would buy a kit and put the thing together. I'll use my first full house ship (Spirt 100) as an example. By the time I had that box of sticks glued together, all the covering on, the flight pack installed and the initial setup programmed into the radio I figure I had invested over 80 manhours prior to the first hand toss. So between the cost of the kit, flight pack and my time I figure that ship cost me in excess of $2,000 (at the very least thinking this way makes it much easier to write the check for one of those nice new moldies). Now I know that there are many out there that really enjoy the building part of the sport and at one time I would count myself in that number but not any more. I have built at least 30 built up planes over the past twenty years, 20-25 foamies, and about 15 composites. So I think I understand how to construct and fly a variety of model sailplanes. So at my current point along lifes trail I am no longer interested in the building side of the hobby I just don't have the time or energy to devote to the process (and I don't think I'm alone in this). I bought my first two unlimited ships off posts to RCSE in the last 6 months (thanks again to the sellers). One was plug in my Rx crystal and fly and the other was install the flight pack and fly. If I have my way this is how I will aquire all my ships from now on. I have enjoyed these planes as much or more than any that I built from scratch, so to speak. I also consider them the best values vs performance planes that I have ever owned. So all that being said, it wouldn't bother me if the rule was changed to allow you to change ships every round. I doubt that there are many that would use more than 2-3 ships at any one contest anyway since as has been said here many times contest performance usually relates to the amount of practice the pilot has put in with a particular ship in a variety of conditions. Of course blind luck can strike anyone on any given day, don't ask how I know this, and even a rookie can take home some wood. But a basic skill level must still be achieved in order for that luck to come into play. So yes this hobby is evolving and hopefully will continue to do so, and yes the cost in both time and money involved to be among the top competitors is high but that is the nature of the beast. I feel it is the competition arena that brings out the need to push the envelope of performance, not just in our sport but basically all of them. So I'm all for letting any number of ships be used at a contest. You still have to have a decent launch, fly the task called, put that nose skeg on the spot, and do that better than the next guy every round of the contest to finish on top. Without the skill to do that on a consistent basis it doesn't matter how many ships you pull out in the morning. Vent finished... Therms, Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Jeff Nibler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 19:43:39 + Just the other day, I was just thinking about how competitive this hobby has become. I'm really new to competition, and soaring in general, but I feel compelled to offer my two cents. Unfortunately, I don't really understand the rule that much, so that said, I think that anything that can be done to make the competition require less technology and money, the better. Remove those two components and you are left with skill (and luck). You break your plane? That's your fault, you probably made an error, and the error may cost you the contest if you can't repair it before the next round. The error could have been in launching, flying, landing, or construction. This all reflects on skill. I suppose my main issue is technology and the cost of it. I don't think that a really outstanding pilot should be at a disadvantage in a contest because he/she can't afford a $1000+ hot rod plane for each type of contest and condition. What's next? Airfoils that can be modified while flying... thermal vision goggles? I'm sure there are others that feel the same way, and I see evidence of this in the popularity of RES, and nostalgia contests (at least locally here where I live). Thanks for listening. Jeff _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by
[RCSE] Hotlanta Soaring Dudes....
Just got a trip to Atlanta in two weeks finalized and low and behold I should have some free time to play. So if any of you NASA guys have some time and want to fly some please let me know. I'm thinking that access to the Mid-South contest site would be out of the question but any locations for TD practice would be appreciated. (I will be bringing a winch) Also what is the status of the slope sites? Are the Dam sites still open or has the COE shut you guys down too? How about Stone Mountain?? Therms, Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] flashy tape
Yea, been looking for some of this tape also, but can anyone figure out how much is on the $4.50 roll??? Original Message Follows From: Freddie Christen Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] flashy tape Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 23:08:16 -0500 Denny, Here is a site that carries the 'flashy tape.' It is a site/company that seems to mostly focus on the Lite Stik. I have not done business with the company, but they list the tape as--Sparklingly Superior Tape - $4.25 per roll. http://www.nyblimp.com/ look for the SS Tape Link. or go directly to ===http://www.nyblimp.com/ss.htm Best, Freddie... On Friday, March 1, 2002, at 10:44 PM, Dennis Zech wrote: I used to be able to find flashy tape for wing leading edges but haven't seen it lately. Does anyone know who still sells it? I used to get it in colors also. Thanks, Denny Snow on the ground, ready for the season to start! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Computer radio programming styles (was: Radio question)
Yep... MPX is the current way to go IMHO!!! As a loyal Futaba guy for a whole lotta years it pained me to seek a better way, but MPX is a better way (gotta love that German thought process). Once I got the Futaba programing outta my head and caught on to the way the MPX works as Dave said that's exactly what a computer radio SHOULD do and the ability to switch between 3 modes in flight opens up a whole lot of opportunity both to improve the quality of the setup for each task (i.e. launch, fly, land) and also allow you to really screw the pooch if you don't really do some quality bench flying to insure that everything is working as planned before you launch that puppy the first time. Original Message Follows From: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Tripp Meister' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'rcse' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Computer radio programming styles (was: Radio question) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:50:42 -0800 For what it's worth: The reason I bought an MPX is simple: with only slight restrictions, it lets you take any physical control (switch, slider, stick, etc.), run it through any of the mixes, and out to any combination of servos. IMHO, that's exactly what a computer radio SHOULD do. When I started looking into higher-end computer radios, I was frankly appalled that they didn't all work this way. All the others (to my knowledge) make all kinds of assumptions about the airplane and your flying style. (Case in point: when I bought my first beginner computer radio, a JR, I had to special order it in Mode 1. That surprised me: if the thing is a computer, why can't I specify what control does what by programming it?) A friend of mine is trying desperately to program a flying wing with flaps (2 servos each side) with his Futaba, and can't seem to do it in any obvious way. (There probably *is* a way, but I bet it involves clever re-plugging of servos and some non-intuitive mode...) I don't love the tray-style case of my 3030 (though it appears the new Royal Evo will solve that problem), but I can live with it, knowing that I can set up the plane however I want, control-wise. I can even have a Mode 2 setup on a plane so my friends can fly it too :-) Dave Johnson At 9:21 AM -0800 2/28/02, Bill Swingle wrote: I did exactly as you recently. Here's my logic in a nut shell: The highend radios that I could afford are: Futaba 8U and 9C, JR 8103, Stylus and MPX 3030. The prices were sort of similar. The 8U was the cheapest and the Stylus the most expensive when I was shopping. STYLUS: 1. I would need the dang memory card and glider card. You can't use two cards at the same time. Thus, the need to copy model memories. Swap the cards. Then swap back again and recopy back again. 2. A computer programmer friend (whom many of this list would know) had a Stylus and HATED the programming. He sold it in frustration and bought an 8U just because of this. This intimidated me. I don't want to work that hard, if I even could. 3. It was the most expensive. This eliminated the Stylus from consideration. The JR, Futaba's and Multiplex are kinda, sorta similar in a broad and generalized way. Without owning each for a few months, there's little I could do to discriminate between them. But, I had to try. I came up with this: They will all will do what I want. The MPX has 99 model memory. The MPX PC interface is shareware. The MPX case is a pizza box. The Futaba 8U is the cheapest. The Futaba 8U only holds 8 models in stock trim. The JR costs about as much as the MPX but does less. The JR only holds 8 models. The JR PC interface costs an extra $100. Many of the top glider pilots have switched to the MPX. After much deliberation, the summation of all the above equaled MPX. I bought an MPX 3030 and have not regretted it. Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp; RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Happiness is...
Jim, A good second place would be a mid-winter day, I don't have to work, with light variable winds, temps in the 60's, new planes ready to fly, new radio ready to fly, and the winch battery is charged!!! Like the day I have forecasted tomorrow... Hope it's the same or better with all... Therms... Joe Original Message Follows From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Happiness is... Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:53:42 -0600 Finding a huge box with your favorite new model sailplane inside it waiting for you when you get home on a Friday night from a most hectic week of work... 8-) Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level III ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Let's just fly!!!
AMEN to that Edgar!!! But I do believe that your Let's just fly!!! line will go the way of the Can't we all just get along line and we all know how that turned out... BTW Concrats on that full page cover shot on RCSD... But I gotta ask, where'd ya get that hat??? Joe Gonna be hittin' the slope in 9hour and 45 minutes Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Flying High [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: exchange [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Let's just fly!!! Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 19:43:58 -0800 (PST) Without getting into a deep discussion here, let's just get out and fly!!! I fly and attend these contest around my area because: 1) It gives me something to do and an excuse to take a break from my better half. 2) Meet up with the many new friends I've made over the past couple of years involved in this hobby. 3) A bonus reason, to have a road trip and enjoy the many activities around RC'ing. I fly for the fun of it, yes I'd like to shoot for that top spot just because that is the main goal with competition flying, but if I don't get there... well so be it. One of the best features is the socializing that takes place during these events. Last time I checked there wasn't any money involved with winning these things anyways or did I get short changed!? ;-) The important thing here for me is that these contests continue so I can keep having a special date to pencil in on my calendar. Maybe I'm looking at this from the wrong angle but as least I can honestly say that I have a blast at every contest I attend. It's another opportunity to get to know everyone out there that enjoys this hobby like I do. Let's just have fun and get on to the flying. Just my 2 cents, Edgar The Soaring Junkie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control Bozo Style
Hey Gordy, Didn't I hear that turning on your tranny and listening was one of your suggestions for finding out if anyone was on your channel at a SUN fun fly in Nashville about 4 years ago or am I getting you confused with someone else I think it was Emerson Ford who told the story. Maybe you said receiver and he heard transmitter??? Anyway, on another direction... What's wrong with this picture... Date: January 31, 2002 Location: Nashville Tennessee Wind: SSW 16 gusts to 25 Activity: Slope Flying Attire: Short sleeved shirt Temp: 73 degrees Fer sure not complaining but it brings to mind a book written by that fountain of wisdom AlGore, damn could he have been right about that global warming thing??? Nah, forecast high for tomorrow is 40 degrees... Hoping all you southeast thumbs got to partake today... Joe Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Frequency Control Bozo Style Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:13:56 -0700 In the endless persuit of more fun per quanta of energy... Bozo presents: The Bozo frequency control board with built in thrill monitor and score recorder. It's really quite simple, you just come to the field/slope and turn on your tranny. Then comes the thrill part. It to, is simple...you just listen... if there are no shrieks, no problem, the frequency in question is clear. If, however, you here shouts... I aint got it or... oh shit or... is someone on MY channel..etc etc...This is the thrill part. At least for me. There are variations on this if you use your on/off swicth in a fun and creative manner...it can produce a series of fine staccato or a memorable adaigos. And then, the coup de grase...a tranny with a tuneable RF module. It IS possible to work the whole crowed one at a time for various effects. The portable tape recorder is certainly required for late evening listening and review. There you go guys... enjoy. Your Friend Bozo... comming to a field near you. P.S. Further advice...try to be somewhat discreet while carrying around a transmitter with a tape recorder strapped to the bottom of it. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org
I have been checking out this site for a couple of weeks in hopes of being able to register for the mid-south contest in June. When I tried to go to the site just now (and I tried a couple of different links including the one from LSF) it bounces me to a search44.com page with links to weight loss stuff. Anyone know what's up with that??? Also if anyone knows when the mid-south registration will start please let me know. And if anyone has a or know of a listing of contests and dates for the southeast/midwest I would appreciate any info... Mucho Grass... Jose _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org
Like yea dude... I got high today, ya know... It musta been them Denny wings that did it... You know us old hippie dudes will use any excuse to get high and a +15 wind hittin the old slope will generally get me off just fine, these days anyway!!! 8^) Wish I couldva joined you at Normandy, the conditions today did put the thought of blowing off work and heading that way into my little midget mind but for some reason the boss just don't understand the attraction to toy planes... c-ya Joe Original Message Follows From: Brian Iva Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 22:34:59 + Mucho grass?? You mean like mary jo wana?/ or grass-ious..?? I was at the Normandy dam yesterday and today..Man was it rockin' today...You could fly high abnd way out in front further than I have ever seen before. The guy at Atlanta in charge of the web page told nme it will be up soon..It needed some last minute attentionBrian From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] www.atlantasoaring.org Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:28:32 -0600 I have been checking out this site for a couple of weeks in hopes of being able to register for the mid-south contest in June. When I tried to go to the site just now (and I tried a couple of different links including the one from LSF) it bounces me to a search44.com page with links to weight loss stuff. Anyone know what's up with that??? Also if anyone knows when the mid-south registration will start please let me know. And if anyone has a or know of a listing of contests and dates for the southeast/midwest I would appreciate any info... Mucho Grass... Jose _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Mother Ship...
I lost my big, self designed, EPP wing (6' span) a while back flying above Maryville Tennessee (BTW the last time I saw it, it was heading towards Georgia gaining altitude in very good trim with a dead rx battery so if anyone sees the white topped red bottomed thing say hi for me)... So anyway I came across an 84 span wing at flyingfoam.com that looks like it would be a good replacement. Anyone have any comments, good or bad, about this ship??? TIA for any replies Joe _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Profi 3030 Charging???
Karlton and any other 3030 guru's, I have been charging my 3030 with a HiTec CG335 charger but have been cycling the Tx batteries by leaving the Tx on until the screen goes dead and then charging. I've done this 5 times now as recommended in the manual. The low battery warning came on while I was doing final checks so I put it on the charger, but... Now I'm ready to fly for the first time with this radio today but I can't get the charger light to come on unless I hold down the start button. It is charging when I'm holding down the start button because when I turn the radio back on the volts are higher than before. Anyone have any idea what's going on with this?? And please don't tell me that I need a different charger unless that's the only way out of this box... Any and all assistance greatly appreciated... Joe _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] MPX 3030 - F3B Setup
Would any of you MPX 3030 thumbs out there be able to point me to a programing setup for an F3B ship or specifically at Psyko? The programming guide I have found (from rc-soaring.com) has a setup for a F3F ship with a V-Tail. Just getting into the MPX programming thing and any help/guidance/etc. would be appreciated. Therms... Joe _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Tom Hoops - Please email me...
Tom, My saved and sent folders got waxed for some reason and I lost your last message re: psyko molded wing wiring harness. Please resend it if you have it I want to verify the dimensions and need your address so I can mail the check. Sorry to put you to the trouble... Thanks, Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] Multiplex 3030 transmitter antenna alternatives?
So Bill, Where did you acquire the Duckie?? Inquiring minds want to know... Joe Original Message Follows From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Elvis' [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] Multiplex 3030 transmitter antenna alternatives? Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:23:29 -0800 I just bought an MPX 3030. First thing I did was research antennas because the stock antenna is too long and heavy. Here's what I was told: The Kavan Powerstick and the Smiley rubber duck will fit and work. Some claim range problems or glitching; some don't. There was a disturbing mix of opinions. Here's what I did: I bought a Smiley. I've now flown with it and had excellent results. I have no idea why some folks claim to have trouble but I works fine for me. Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Mr. Page, You might want to read the post I made before you start flaming my ass. I'm all for necessary security in light of the recent situation. However if they are truly concerned about the security of this site why would they allow truck and auto traffic to run right over the dam? Why would they allow boats to pull up right next to the dam? Why would they allow fishermen to stand right next to the powerhouse? Why would they be moreconcerned about a group of slope flyers who have been flying at this site for over 5 years than the above? So if you really feel like flaming me for questioning what I view as a really stupid situation, feel free, but be sure of your facts and read through the post to understand the situation before you fire. Also, since you broadcasted your post, I will reply in kind. You might want to wipe your head off since it is obvisouly stuck up a smelly place... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:09:44 -0800 You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures
Mark, I agree. But that is not the case. We can still fly on the lake side (I flew at lunch today in fact). The fishermen are still allowed to fish and they are walking or boating the whole length of the dam. I just feel that this is a situation that in which the terroists are winning by changing our lifestyle. If the dam was closed to ALL traffic I wouldn't be saying a word about it, but it isn't. As far as I can tell the only people affected are the slope heads, the kite flyers, the dog walkers, and the gay guys that used the park below the dam as a meeting place. Am I confused or in error to think that this is just wrong? Joe Original Message Follows From: Mark Mothersead [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:59:21 -0800 (PST) I think the jist of it is, it is easier to moniter and keep vehicle traffic moving along the dam, where as either law enforcement or the dam operators may not have the man power to observe foot traffic, and my self personally, I feel that as nice a place as it is to fly, it may be unwise to fly r/c aircraft around a dam or other structure like that. people nerves are on edge and so people might percive some even as simple as an r/c aircraft as a threat.This may for the time being be on of the sacrifices that we all have to make at a time like this. Mark Mothersead Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Easy there.I think the question here is why would foot traffic be prohibited when auto and truck(bomb???) traffic is not. Andy Page wrote: You want to complain about increased security surrounding critical infrastructure during a war? Why? From: Joe G To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] Dam Site Closures Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:39:30 -0600 Dudes, Just curious if any of you are experiencing any closures of slope sites at Dam's. We were ordered, by Corps of Engineer personnel, to refrain from flying the front side of Percy Priest Dam in Nashville on Saturday. Of course it was one of the few Saturday's that we had a perfect NW +15 mph wind. The really strange thing is they stated that is was closed to foot traffic on the front side (grassy side) due to security reasons related to the 9/11 incident. However they have not stopped the auto/truck traffic that rolls right along on the top of the dam. Sure doesn't make any sense to me and they are really cramping my pursuit of happiness rights. So anyone else running into this?? Suggestions as to how and who to complain too?? BTW we can still fly the water side of the dam... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/C Slope and Power Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/ OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] re: Who is interested in a great retriever?
Hey Rob... Thanks alot for that thought... Oh yea, I forgot, it is Halloween... Joe Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] re: Who is interested in a great retriever? Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:57:05 EDT Herbie! Does Peg know that you are sending pictures of your UNIT out to everybody on the internet? Rob If necessary, I can send a picture of my unit.Herb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 9Z Flap Question
Bill, Understand you frustration, I run into the same type problems with my 8U but thankfully Don Edberg's book makes up for a lot of the shortcomings of the Futaba Manual. Too bad he doesn't do a book on the 9Z. Was seriously considering the 9Z until a conversation with Jack Strother about his MPX Profi 4000. Now I'm saving up my pennies for a 4000. Seems you can program each servo individually and mix them anyway you want. Programming seems fairly simple when compared to the Futaba methods. Know that doesn't help your present situation but you might consider finding a stinky (re: power) pilot that would take the 9Z off your hands and get a MPX 3030 or 4000. Just my two cents worth... 8-)... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] 9Z Flap Question Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:08:27 -0700 OK, here's my question for the day. I have a Futaba 9ZAW. I have it installed in a scale ASW-27 that has flaps (2 servos), ailerons (2 servos), and spoilers (2 servos - Y'd together). Flaps work off the left slider. BUT, ALL the flap movement occurs between the slider all the way up and the mid-point where it beeps. Anyone know how to get a less compressed movement. The last 1/2 of the slider motion does nothing. Also, any idea how to set up the flaps on a three-position switch?? I tried assigning the flaps to a 3-position switch, but could not get what I wanted. This is No flap at pos 1, 1/2 flap at pos 2 and full flap at pos 3. Of course the manual is useless. Futaba REALLY needs to rewrite it using actual terminology. They use Speed Flap and Brake Flaps and other such nonsense terms. ~~ Bill Malvey Ladera Ranch, California RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Coffee Airfoilers Fall Contest
That would be Tullahoma Tennessee... So pack it up and head on down, shouldn't be more than a 14 hour drive... Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: Stephen Syrotiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herb Rindfleisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Coffee Airfoilers Fall Contest Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:49:44 -0400 My mindreader just burned out. Where is this Fall Contest being held? Regards, -- Stephen Syrotiak Building Service Southern Connecticut http://members.home.net/stephen.s1 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]