[RCSE] Batteries.. Who needs batteries ???
Looks like we wont need batteries in the near future... And once they get the amp draw up, we wont need them for our electrics as well :-) http://www.mtimicrofuelcells.com/technology/breakthrough.asp Craig
[RCSE] Batteries on Airlines
Before this becomes a major crisis, note that this is only about lithium batteries. And it only pertains to loose batteries that are not installed in the device they are designed for. Your laptop, cellphone, iPod, Blackberry and other devices are just fine as long as the battery is installed (doesn't work too well otherwise). The concern is the potential for fire if a loose battery is shorted by coming into contact with something. TSA also doesn't seem to care about carry on, just checked luggage. The other interesting thing is there is no mention of NiCd, NiMH, etc. just lithiums. Jim Thomas, frequent traveler. -- Original message from Soaring@airage.com (Soaring): -- Soaring Thu, 3 Jan 2008 Volume 1 : Number 10600 In this issue: Airlines Impose New Restrictions on Batteries -- Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: Dan To: soaring@airage.com Subject: Airlines Impose New Restrictions on Batteries Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --0-787759953-1199394797=:95624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://safetravel.dot.gov/whats_new_batteries.html
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Hi Kent, FWIW, I've always received excellent from the Hill's at www.battlepack.com. Steve is a great guy who keepss us high current guys in the loop with what's working well and what's not. Dan Kent Miller wrote: I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hi Kent, I've had great service and support from Diversity in San Diego - try www.flydma.com. Bruce DeVisser SBSS - Original Message - From: Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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A guy broke off from SR Batteries and is doing the same quality work at a little lower price. The place is nobsbatteries at http://www.hangtimes.com/nobsbatteries.html . Ive had good experiences with him. Radical RC is also very good. Rob From: Jim Laurel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:42 PM To: 'GRW'; 'Kent Miller'; Soaring@airage.com Subject: RE: [RCSE] Batteries?? Glenn, Have you really had good experiences with them? Ive placed two orders. The first order, for some Lipoly packs that puffed for no apparent reason. Actually, one puffed before I ever even hooked up a connector, just sitting in a box! The second order was for some custom shaped NiMh RX packs. I drew up a Visio diagram showing the configuration, where I wanted the wire to exit, how I wanted the strain relief done. I got packs with no strain relief, the wire coming out of the wrong end of the pack, and a really sloppy shrinkwrap job. When I called them about it, they said to send them back and this time to please provide a diagram. Go figure. Never ordered from them again --Jim From: GRW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:59 PM To: Kent Miller; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries?? Try www.cheapbatterypacks.com -- Glenn W. Tri-Cities, Wa Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
[RCSE] Batteries??
I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Well, TX and RX Johnny Berlin For motor packs... ask him.. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kent Miller wrote: I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- Jeff Steifel RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hi Kent, Here's a great outfit that I use on a regular basis with great service and batteries. http://www.cermark.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? Andy -Original Message- From: Kent Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:57 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hi Kent I recently switched from Batteries America to cheapbatterypacks.com on the recommendation of a very active experienced(particularly in electrics!) club member-Lenny Keer whom I'm sure many of you know! I have only used them twice so far however, there service is excellent (even a custom pack only took 4 days), their prices low and their Gold Peak cells/batteries (at least the NiMH) are the best I have used so far particularly for sustained high power output! Regards Tony RMSA Colorado - Original Message - From: Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Title: RE: [RCSE] Batteries?? Maxamps.com has shown me superlative customer support. They're geared towards motor packs, but also do receiver packs, and I think will build whatever you want. Give 'em a try. Matt -Original Message- From: Kent Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:57 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Batteries America (Mr. Nicad) here in Wisconsin had a fire about two months ago which totally destroyed the interior of the building and it's contents. They are about a mile from me and I drove by awhile back to look. I saw no signs of activity. Probably working out the insurance if there waqs any. I do not know what their plans are for the future. Mark Miller --- Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Hi Kent, I have had very good results going through Bishop Power Products for the flight batteries for many different models. www.b-p-p.com Vince --- Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. How sad. This is surprising to me. Anyone else experienced this poor service? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I've also had several very bad experiences with those people. Most recently, I called about a batch of batteries that weren't peaking to spec. I wasn't asking to send them back, I only called to let him know that he might want to check his stock. He replied with something very rude and hung up on me. If you're particular about batteries, I'd stay away from that place. - Steve
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've also had several very bad experiences with those people. Most recently, I called about a batch of batteries that weren't peaking to spec. I wasn't asking to send them back, I only called to let him know that he might want to check his stock. He replied with something very rude and hung up on me. If you're particular about batteries, I'd stay away from that place. I'm guessing that you mean Batteries America, but I'm not sure. If you're not going to quote the post you're replying to, you really ought to at least be specific about who those people and that place are. There's no easy way to tell from what you wrote above. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Kent, Here are my two best sources for batteries. Neither of these sources are the cheapest, but they offer the best quality workmanship and customer service in my experience. 1) For TX and RX packs, talk to Steve Anthony, owner of NoBS Batteries. He is super helpful and will make up custom packs to your specs. There IS a difference in pack quality and Steve's are among the very best. http://hangtimes.com 2) For RX and motor packs, I often go to Steve and Sarah Hill at Robotic Power Solutions. They are very nice people and Steve will make up anything you want. The quality of his pack construction is excellent. Their customer service is outstanding. http://battlepack.com/ Good Luck, --Jim Laurel Seattle Area Soaring Society -Original Message- From: Kent Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:57 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Batteries?? I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Diversity Model Aircraft FLYDMA.com The website isn't that great, just give them a call and they are wonderful to deal with. They were genuinely concerned with getting me the maximum capacity batteries in the cramped places I was shoehorning them into. I also got a 10 cell 3700mAh Zapped pack for a very fair price. The shipping was very fast too! Mike Las Vegas, NV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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GEEZ MIKE ! I figured it out... What's your PROBLEM!!! Haven't flown lately I guess or to freaked out about Hurricanes coming into you area. Relax Man. Oh; Buy the way Thanks for the info Kent! It's always nice to hear what the Venders are up to and how they treat us as customers.. Again, Thanks Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) former Bag Lady Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Kent, I have been using both Radical RC in Ohio, and Diversity Model Aircraft in San Diego. At 09:56 AM 10/5/2005 -0700, Kent Miller wrote: I am looking for a good battery supplier for Tx, Rx and motor packs. I have been using batteriesamerica and have become totally disgusted in their service and attitude. I placed an order for four packs and some shrink tubing over a month and a half ago, called 6 different times and was basically shined on by everyone including the owner. BAD BAD. Any help would be appreciated on another GOOD source. Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/120 - Release Date: 10/5/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Try www.cheapbatterypacks.com--Glenn W.Tri-Cities, Wa Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
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The original posting was about batteries america. My post was a reply to that post
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Having replied to a post that showed concerns about only one company, I'm surprised that you were confused about what company I was referring to. Please send me a list of the other companies you thought I might have meant, and I'll pick out which one I meant for you. - Steve That's a rather odd message, considering that I specifically acknowledged that you were probably talking about Batteries America. By the way, there's something different about your email headers that you might want to know about. Most of the follow-up posts here have either an In-Reply-To: or a References: header, but your posts have neither. For some email clients this can cause your follow-up messages to appear all by themselves, which is what happened in my case. On my email program, I had to reluctantly activate enable threading by subject to get your messages to appear along with the rest of their respective threads. I should also add that many here have complained that they don't always receive all of the RCSE messages. That's another reason why it's good practice to always quote the text you're replying to, and to never assume that your readers will see on their screens the same list of posts in the same order that you see on yours. It might work okay on web-based forums like RCGroups.com, but you can't depend on it here. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Glenn, Have you really had good experiences with them? Ive placed two orders. The first order, for some Lipoly packs that puffed for no apparent reason. Actually, one puffed before I ever even hooked up a connector, just sitting in a box! The second order was for some custom shaped NiMh RX packs. I drew up a Visio diagram showing the configuration, where I wanted the wire to exit, how I wanted the strain relief done. I got packs with no strain relief, the wire coming out of the wrong end of the pack, and a really sloppy shrinkwrap job. When I called them about it, they said to send them back and this time to please provide a diagram. Go figure. Never ordered from them again --Jim From: GRW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 5:59 PM To: Kent Miller; Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries?? Try www.cheapbatterypacks.com -- Glenn W. Tri-Cities, Wa Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
[RCSE] Batteries servos
Any one interested in a 9.6 volt transmitter, a 4.8 volt receiver battery packs, Plus 4 94322 servos.? All brand new just taken out of an Airtronics radio today. Does $50 for all of it shipped in the CONUS sound fair? Brian Smith RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Batteries Servos sold
Sold to Winch.. Thanks to all the other who inquired.. Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] batteries
the days are getting shorter and winter is coming on ... Eddie the Eagle in sunny South Australia To this my wife says thank goodness particularly since yesterday we exceeded the long term record for the day by two degrees. But my batteries are getting tired with these longer opportunities that are getting shorter. Question. How many stalled F3B launches can be made on your F3B battery? So what is your battery size and how many launches? I may need to take multiple batteries or buy a new one. Thankyou. Rick Richard Hallett Pittsfield ME PS In case you did not know it the launch and the battery are entirely different for F3B compared to a normal club setup. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 14.57, Chuck Anderson wrote: Been using the Sirius Charge for 10 years now on both nicads and nimh batteries without a single problem. I endorse everything George Joy says about his equipment. I can only say: Ditto! Tord RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
Question for today What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 09:57:14AM -0800, Jack Suder wrote: | Question for today | | What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? Western civilization as we know it fails. Some will argue that this has already happened. | What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? Eastern civilization as we know it fails. Again, some feel that this has already happened. | If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? Seriously, the difference between how NiMH and NiCd batteries are peak charged is that NiMH cells have a smaller peak. So if you use a NiCd charger on NiMH cells, it may `miss' the peak and keep charging even after it's full. Or it may not -- it depends on how sensitive it is. Overcharging at a high rate is definately very bad, and will destroy the pack quickly. If you use a NiMH charger on NiCd cells, the peak will be larger, so it'll probably be just fine, though it might stop before the battery is completely charged. Most NiMH chargers work fine with NiCd batteries too. Everything I just said is about peak chargers. If you're talking about a slow charger, the sort where it just puts C/10 or so into the battery, nothing bad will happen. NiMH cells will probably take longer to charge, having more capacity and a higher self discharge rate, but beyond that there's no issues. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nine out of ten doctors agree that one out of ten doctors is an idiot. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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Jack, The problem here is NiMH cells, nothing will happen to NiCd cells, in fact a NiMH charger is better for the NiCd cells than is a NiCd charger because it has a more sensitive overvoltage detect. All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is the number one killer of ALL batteries. The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. Smooth Landings George At 09:57 AM 1/24/2005 -0800, Jack Suder wrote: Question for today What happens if you charge a NMH battery with a NiCad charger? What happens if you charge a NiCad battery with a NMH charger? If you use the wrong charger does it do any damage to the battery pack? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
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I believe he is one and the same. I admit he seems a little prejudiced here, but we have a man that believes in what he sells and stands behind his product. I wish I had some of his chargers. I will have just as soon as I get tired of these peak chargers killing my packs. That won't be long, I'm almost there already. Ed Jett - Original Message - From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jack Suder [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I used to have a handle on life, but it broke. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 12:57:13PM -0700, George Joy wrote: | All chargers except the Sirius charge line use Delta peak detection, | in other words they all overcharge the cells to find a peak. OVERCHARGE is | the number one killer of ALL batteries. | The Sirius Charge line is the only PEAK PREDICTION charger on the | market. It is the SAFEST there is for both NiCd and NiMH cells, PERIOD. | If you or anyone would like a deeper discussion of battery | maintenance, I can be reached @ 800-532-0092. You wouldn't happen to be related to the George Joy that's the President of Peak Electronics, who bought Sirius Electronics a while back, would you? :) Don't tell me there is another George Joy!! -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Batteries and Chargers
At 03:12 PM 1/24/2005, you wrote: I believe he is one and the same. I admit he seems a little prejudiced here, but we have a man that believes in what he sells and stands behind his product. I wish I had some of his chargers. I will have just as soon as I get tired of these peak chargers killing my packs. That won't be long, I'm almost there already. Ed Jett Been using the Sirius Charge for 10 years now on both nicads and nimh batteries without a single problem. I endorse everything George Joy says about his equipment. Chuck Anderson. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] batteries america???
I've found the only reliable way to communicate with them is verbally. Do that and you can't go wrong. Tom brian wrote: have they just fallen off the map? sent an order and a followup inquiry and have heard nothing back. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Batteries gone
The HL batteries are all gone. T TG http://adesigner.com 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 phone 540 943-3356 fax 540 943-4178 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: Optima [RCSE] batteries gel cells?
I got mine for $109 shipped from TNA-Sports.com --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kent Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Elmohut, That smaller yellow top ( 40 Ah ) is real cute. Just the right size to go with a Little Big Winch. Where can you get it for $100 shipped? Thanks, Kent Miller SBSS Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:36:04 -0400 From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] batteries gel cells? Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] elmohut wrote: I purchased a Yellow Top Optima battery that is a little smaller than the average auto-type battery.It is 40 amp-hrs,deep cycle, and cost about $100 bucks shipped.It also has a handle built into it,which was a big plus to me. I don't know what model you got (I have a D34/78), but the smallest Optima YellowTop Deep Cycle is 55 Ah. The largest is 75 Ah, and the 6 Volt is 50 Ah. The largest doesn't have a handle. http://www.optimabatteries.com/products/deep_Cycle/technical.asp Optima batteries are great for electric flyers, as well as personal winch users. The Marine Deep Cycles (Blue/Greys) are the same battery but with a longer warranty. They Marine Starting (Blue/Blacks) are not deep cycle, so avoid them. As with all sealed batteries, make sure your charger doesn't exceed the battery's specs! -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Batteries America
Try Radical RC for batteries of all sorts. Order through the internet at radicalrc.com or direct pickup in Dayton, OH. Dave has some of the best prices that I've seen and does high volume so the cells are fresh.Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com
Re: [RCSE] Batteries America
Thanks for all the additional battery sources guys. Not sure what the issue was, but I was finally able to contact Batteries America today and ordered from them. Brett RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Batteries And Such
Hello all, I'm looking for a good Internet source for batteries and related hardware, such as shrink wrap, wires, connectors etc. Is there a one stop shopping site for this type of product? I'm also looking for a hammerhead soldering tip for soldering batteries end to end. Thanks! David Shanks Salt Lake City, Utah RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Batteries And Such
Try New Creations in Willis, Texas. They are into that big time. I think it's www.newcreations.com or newcreationsrc.com...I visit in person or I'd know for sure...Jack --- David Shanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I'm looking for a good Internet source for batteries and related hardware, such as shrink wrap, wires, connectors etc. Is there a one stop shopping site for this type of product? I'm also looking for a hammerhead soldering tip for soldering batteries end to end. Thanks! David Shanks Salt Lake City, Utah RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Batteries And Such
Thanks all of you for your input on battery sources! Big help! Best, David Shanks Salt Lake City, Utah - Original Message - From: Brian Iva Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Batteries And Such www.radicalrc.com is where I have been getting most of my items..Nice guy, and only $2 shipping fee..Brian From: David Shanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RC Soaring Exchange soaring@airage.com. Subject: [RCSE] Batteries And Such Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 20:35:26 -0700 Hello all, I'm looking for a good Internet source for batteries and related hardware, such as shrink wrap, wires, connectors etc. Is there a one stop shopping site for this type of product? I'm also looking for a hammerhead soldering tip for soldering batteries end to end. Thanks! David Shanks Salt Lake City, Utah RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Batteries America - Caution Virus
I did also, I just hit delete when I got the warning. Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules - Original Message - From: Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:24 PM Subject: [RCSE] Batteries America - Caution Virus Last week I sent an e-mail to Batteries America with an inquiry regarding a receiver pack. Since then, I have received two e-mails from them, both infected with a virus (detected by Norton Anti Virus.) The last one was an .exe file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Batteries America) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Batteries
Just wanted to say that I contacted BatteriesAmerica. They were really helpfull. And I thought the price was very reasonable.. I ordered a set of custompacks for my R/C TruckNeeded more longevity... They set me up ! I have been pulling up Handlaunch gliders with this thing. It''s fun! Works well. I finally found a nice heavy 4x4 with dual motors and nice large tires for going through grass.. I am crurious as if this will pull a boomerang.. So thats our next experiment Cheers Charlie
Re: Re: [RCSE] batteries
What happened was that I was charging at 330mah, and over time, it was only taking one hour to charge them at this rate. Took the pack to the store and they confirmed capacity was 330 to 360mah by cycling them a few times. This is strange, the e flight guys that I know all charge their NiMh's at twice their rated capacity with an Astro 112D charger. I have done the same and had good results. I was referring to the Sanyo NiCad (not NiMH) 1100AAU's. These are special hi-capacity batteries. Spec sheet doesn't list a quick charge rate. I charge my 5 packs of Sanyo 1100 AAU's at 2 Amps with my ancient TRC Impuse peak charger. Never a warm cell, and they still rate good on the cycler. Had one pack lose capacity after 3 years of use. Jon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] batteries
I would like to replace my receiver and transmitter battery packs with AAU 1100 mAh cells. Does anyone know of any reason not to use these cells? Is seems like 1100 mAh is an awful lot of capacity for a AA size cell. Thanks in Advance Gregg Gawlak begin:vcard n:Gawlak;Gregg x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:Gregg Gawlak end:vcard
[RCSE] Batteries for JR PCM10s
Where's the best source to get a replacement Nicad for a PCM10s and is it easy to change the lithium's? I might as well change both before I start programming it. If I change the lithium is there a mode change or anything or will it come right back up? Thanks -- Glenn R. Whitcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Batteries AGAIN!
Okay, that's NiMH in planes. I'm using them in my Tx, which has digital and analog voltage readout, fairly safe, right? The other question is, how did you charge your NiMh batteries? Was it as good as the Sirius charger I'm using? I've used and charged my Radio Shack 1500 AA NiMH 'transmitter' batteries several times now, and its all A-ok on the Western Front, and counting. I promise to let the alias know if and when I have any perceptible problems whatsoever with these batteries. I guarantee these are going to get a LOT of use now and throughout the flying season. No news is good news as far as these NiMH batteries go. -Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About four years ago, when I bought an Audiovox cell phone, I thought I had scored a great deal, because it came with three battery packs. NiMH no less. There is a reason, because the NiMH batt's will not last very long. Even had to replace two of the packs. It never got better, the life got shorter and the charging became more frequent. I could never consider using this kind of cell in an airplane that I have sweated many, many hours over while we still have the relative decent reliability of Ni- Cads. Thanks for the soap box. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GRW wrote: Ok, I have a question and needs some expert advice. I'm back on the NiMH kick and almost lost a plane because of it. What are the "Pro's" using for HLG's as far as batteries go? Are the NiMH really worth the risk to save a bit of wieght and have to buy an expensive charger? Heck, now that i'm asking questions I'll ask an open ended one and I know there's going to be a ton of answers, but what is the most sought after HLG for competition? I'm flying my climmax and need something lighter, the Spectre? The Dartar? Thanks in advance, for the answers. -- Glenn R. Whitcomb Elko, NV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gbcnv.edu/~glennw RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Batteries AGAIN!
About four years ago, when I bought an Audiovox cell phone, I thought I had scored a great deal, because it came with three battery packs. NiMH no less. There is a reason, because the NiMH batt's will not last very long. Even had to replace two of the packs. It never got better, the life got shorter and the charging became more frequent. I could never consider using this kind of cell in an airplane that I have sweated many, many hours over while we still have the relative decent reliability of Ni- Cads. Thanks for the soap box. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GRW wrote: Ok, I have a question and needs some expert advice. I'm back on the NiMH kick and almost lost a plane because of it. What are the "Pro's" using for HLG's as far as batteries go? Are the NiMH really worth the risk to save a bit of wieght and have to buy an expensive charger? Heck, now that i'm asking questions I'll ask an open ended one and I know there's going to be a ton of answers, but what is the most sought after HLG for competition? I'm flying my climmax and need something lighter, the Spectre? The Dartar? Thanks in advance, for the answers. -- Glenn R. Whitcomb Elko, NV [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gbcnv.edu/~glennw RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]