[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
I have used the Hobbico locator. It works as you describe and will likely work with 2.4 GHz but it is so annoying to have to move the sticks just to keep the alarm from sounding. If they had a 10 minute window instead of a 1 minute window it would be ideal. Best regards, Ed Anderson - Original Message - From: "Doug McLaren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have to do any special programming to make it work -- http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear. However, the transmiter inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks (or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle (not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane was lost. And yes, I've tried it. The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put it down between flights. Most annoying. I wish they'd made the timeout five minutes instead. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You fight until hell freezes over. Then you fight on the ice." --Richard Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
SkyKing here. So far we do not have a solution for Spectrum 2.4GHz systems. They all employ a fail safe which cannot be turned off. This defeats our locator. The Futaba 2.4GHz 6 channel 2.4 GHz allows us to use the gear channel on/off toggle switch to turn our locator on or off without the need for turning the TX off. I have never tested the Hobbico lost model device but it might work with your 2.4 GHz TX. It triggers on when the device does not detect any stick movement for a period of time. But, I'm not certain if it will work since I have never tested one. We will have a unit at some point but at the moment it is a back burner project. Ed SkyKing RC Products, LLC - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Greg and Gordy, I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers. Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. Ed Anderson Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Message-ID: ---1206417432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the response. So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your device will trigger. Gordy In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device plugs into a spare channel. The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't beep when I turn the transmitter off. Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will work with the 2.4GHZ radios? Greg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: 3/24/2008 3:03 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1901 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:04:37AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and |PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. |Spektrum receivers. I like how they say it -- NOTE: This is the only Lost Model Locator of its type and size available that will work with most PCM systems! ... "of it's type" basically guarantees that no matter what new products come out, this statement is still accurate, because they won't be "of it's type" -- they'll be a different type, even if they do exactly the same thing. (Still, looks very nice and small. And it also looks like it *should* work with 2.4 GHz gear if you follow their programming instructions, but of course I've not tried it.) |Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you |have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The |procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. This will work fine with PPM, PCM or 2.4 GHz stuff, and you won't have to do any special programming to make it work -- http://www.hobbico.com/radioaccys/hcap0335.html The lost plane alarm will be activated if the servo channel it's on stops getting pulses, which is what works with normal PPM stuff and doesn't work with PCM or 2.4 GHz gear. However, the transmiter inactivity signal (which sounds the same as the lost plane alarm) will still work even with PCM or 2.4 GHz -- if you stop moving the sticks (or if you go into and stay in failsafe), that channel will be idle (not changing, though it may still be getting servo pulses), and once it's been idle for a minute, the alarm start beeping as if your plane was lost. And yes, I've tried it. The downside is that your plane will get upset and start beeping if you leave it turned on and idle for a few minutes -- like when you put it down between flights. Most annoying. I wish they'd made the timeout five minutes instead. -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You fight until hell freezes over. Then you fight on the ice." --Richard Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
Greg and Gordy, I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers. Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. Ed Anderson > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com > Subject: Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) > Message-ID: > > ---1206417432 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a > failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into > to fire the response. > > So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the > other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost > signal your device will trigger. > > Gordy > > In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which > beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has > been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the > receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device > plugs into a spare channel. > > The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio > but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't > beep when I turn the transmitter off. > > Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will > work with the 2.4GHZ radios? > > Greg >
[RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the response. So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your device will trigger. Gordy In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device plugs into a spare channel. The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't beep when I turn the transmitter off. Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will work with the 2.4GHZ radios? Greg RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
Re: [RCSE] Question about "large" scale or otherwise soaring....
In a message dated 2/4/2006 11:02:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: know a couple of smaller sites, but am looking for maybe a moutain site capable of top landing, say in the Shenendoah Valley ???(Or anywhere within a couple hour drive of Richmond) See http://www.people.virginia.edu/~jiv5k/blue_ridge_slope_sites.htm Good Lift! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question about "large" scale or otherwise soaring....
I am in the process of assembling a couple of 3.5--4 meter size sailplanes, and am wondering if anyone on the list has a slope site they fly this size bird in the central-SE area of Virginia? I know a couple of smaller sites, but am looking for maybe a moutain site capable of top landing, say in the Shenendoah Valley ???(Or anywhere within a couple hour drive of Richmond) If you don't want to discuss your sites on a public forum, please email me directly. THANKS! Rick RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question for Jim Thomas
Jim, When you flew your Windsong/Lovesong at either the SWC or Visalia, you beefed the wing to winch launch strength. Did you change the airfoil??? If so which one did you use? John RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] question
Re: [RCSE] question
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Very odd, I am only getting 3 - 5 posts a day. Can someone from (RCSE) help? >Ron Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Any body else getting very few posts these days, starting to feel a bit >>lonely:-). > >For the last week I count: > >22 posts dated 8/26/2005 >14 posts dated 8/27/2005 >10 posts dated 8/28/2005 >15 posts dated 8/29/2005 >14 posts dated 8/30/2005 >20 posts dated 8/31/2005 >17 posts dated 9/1/2005 > >Mike -- Ron Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] question
Ron Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Any body else getting very few posts these days, starting to feel a bit >lonely:-). For the last week I count: 22 posts dated 8/26/2005 14 posts dated 8/27/2005 10 posts dated 8/28/2005 15 posts dated 8/29/2005 14 posts dated 8/30/2005 20 posts dated 8/31/2005 17 posts dated 9/1/2005 Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer - http://www.vvsss.com/buzzer/ _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] question
Any body else getting very few posts these days, starting to feel a bit lonely:-). -- Ron Russell RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question below- I use a stylus transmitter (nt)
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Re: [RCSE] Question about shipping to Europe
US air parcel is the cheapest, if the package is under a certain size and weight, it can be shipped as a "small packet" for less. If it is small enough to be stuffed into a flat rate global priority envelope and under 4lbs. it can go anywhere for under $10.00 Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com - Original Message - From: "Dan Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: [RCSE] Question about shipping to Europe Is there any method other than US Parcel Post to send a package to Europe without spending a small fortune? I have a box about 17 inches square and 6 inches deep that I need to send to France. The package will only weigh a couple of pounds. Any help or experiences (good or bad) will be much appreciated. Dan Ashenfelter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question about shipping to Europe
Is there any method other than US Parcel Post to send a package to Europe without spending a small fortune? I have a box about 17 inches square and 6 inches deep that I need to send to France. The package will only weigh a couple of pounds. Any help or experiences (good or bad) will be much appreciated. Dan Ashenfelter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Fw: [RCSE] Question on Craig Greening servo mounts.
Thanks. . .got the answers. - Original Message - From: "Harley Michaelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] Question on Craig Greening servo mounts. Craig is not answering my mail, so I'll ask here. Is the underside of the frame open and if so does the servo drop in so the case is flush with the bottom of the mount? Is the servo mounted by a screw down bracket that fits over the lugs or through the opening for grommets in the lugs? If neither, please explain or send me a pic of a mount without a servo attached. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Question on Craig Greening servo mounts.
Yes. Clip that inserts in the lug holes, then is secured to the bracket with a screw. The servo lug and clip wedge between uprights on the bracket, and are held in with the screw. Tom Harley Michaelis wrote: Is the underside of the frame open and if so does the servo drop in so the case is flush with the bottom of the mount? Is the servo mounted by a screw down bracket that fits over the lugs or through the opening for grommets in the lugs? If neither, please explain or send me a pic of a mount without a servo attached. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question on Craig Greening servo mounts.
Craig is not answering my mail, so I'll ask here. Is the underside of the frame open and if so does the servo drop in so the case is flush with the bottom of the mount? Is the servo mounted by a screw down bracket that fits over the lugs or through the opening for grommets in the lugs? If neither, please explain or send me a pic of a mount without a servo attached. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Question for Hand launch events.....
If there was a Nostalgia venue offered at the spring contest; say, a javelin event! Would you come and fly in it? Trying to attract addition pilots to the event and this came up at the last meeting. Any feedback for this? Thanks in advance... the BASS contingent! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac
FlyByMike on 12-8-04 11:18 AM wrote: > FWIW - Hairspray is Shellac :) > -Mike What do you know, I thought hairspray was a lacquer, I assumed the nitrocellulose kind. There are other kinds of lacquer such as that referred to in my dictionary definition as made from the sap of some un-named eastern Asian tree -- new to me. A cursory bit of looking showed up references that hairsprays are lacquer or shellac. So, which of those references are out dated and which correct, probably both. Spray some on a hard slick surface, let dry, and try to dissolve with alcohol. Shellac ALWAYS dissolves in alcohol. But shellac has a very short shelf life once mixed, about 6 months, if memory serves. (This test is the standard for mix your own shellac too.) Any hairspray would have to have additives to extend its shelf life. I believe Zinsser does this with its canned shellac products to extend its shelf life to a claimed 3 years. On the other hand, how would a person wash out nitrocellulose lacquer with shampoo or put up with the vapors of lacquer thinner for that matter? If hairspray is shellac I would guess it has some modification to allow it to wash out easily, not what we want on a wood finish. Also consider Jeff Steifel's post to this thread: > BTW someone did a scientific study of shellac as a water > (liquid) barrier and it was only marginally inferior to polyurethane. So > it can be considered a liquid barrier I don't think straight shellac hairspray would wash out well unless modified, but that is just my guess. The proof is in using the stuff and some you have obviously had success with hairspray as a balsa finish. -- Jim -- Oklahoma AMA, TULSOAR RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question for Modelers Familiar w/Shellac
As a woodworker I haven¹t used but read about shellac as the sealer/under coat for wood finishes. Shellac is accepted as a good barrier against water vapor, but not liquid water, and any finish will stick to it well. So I thought it might be a very good under or only coat for balsa tail parts on HLG¹s etc. Don Stackhouse of DJ Aerotech describes the use of water born (not a solvent in this case) polyurethane and that care must be taken to get a very thin first & later coats. One reason for that would be the fact that wood so readily absorbs water then changing it¹s dimensions due to swelling of the wood fibers. Don's main goal seems to be to limit weight added though. Have any of you tried shellac, which uses alcohol as its solvent? I am wondering if a 3 pound cut, for example, would penetrate less than a 1 pound cut. [Shellac is mixed as x pounds of flakes to 1 gallon of alcohol. N.B. you must use de-waxed shellac if you intend to over coat it with any other finish.] -- Jim Holliman -- Tulsa, Oklahoma RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question about solenoids
yclui_hk wrote: The majority of commercial winches are equipped with two solenoids and I am not sure whether they are serving different purposes or just connected in parallel to increase the current handling capability. Can anyone shed some light on this please ? Wiring diagrams: http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/rc/winch/wiring.html -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances
Rick: My experience bears out your theory on that! - Ed Jett - Original Message - From: "Rick & Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances > Guess by that statement that, given a long enough life, eventually you won't > be able to tolerate anything!! > > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:59 PM > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances > > > > In a message dated 10/31/2003 10:46:55 PM Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > So, just how much error can you live with, and that is your tolerance > > > > Like I told Harley, the older (or more experienced) I get the less > tolerance > > I seem to be willing to accept. > > > > happy trails - Rob > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > MIME turned off. > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances
Guess by that statement that, given a long enough life, eventually you won't be able to tolerate anything!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances > In a message dated 10/31/2003 10:46:55 PM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So, just how much error can you live with, and that is your tolerance > > Like I told Harley, the older (or more experienced) I get the less tolerance > I seem to be willing to accept. > > happy trails - Rob > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances
In a message dated 10/31/2003 10:46:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, just how much error can you live with, and that is your tolerance Like I told Harley, the older (or more experienced) I get the less tolerance I seem to be willing to accept. happy trails - Rob RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question on tolerances
Well, that really depends on what your standards are. If you can tell the difference in a digital or analog servo, or don't like planes that seem to turn one way all the time. There might not be any tolerance. One quarter degree difference in angle is hard to measure, but will make a slight difference in flight. So, just how much error can you live with, and that is your tolerance. bc([EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.widomaker.com/~conk Williamsburg, VA 23185 On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is a question for the aero gurus among us. > > If I assemble a typical 3 meter TD plane I am going to get the wings misaligned. > Assume that I get the angles of attack a bit different from right to left wing, I > try and get this right but realistically that's impossible. What is the tolerance of > this misalignment that I need to worry about before it begins to affect performance? > > happy trails - Rob Glover > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question on tolerances
This is a question for the aero gurus among us. If I assemble a typical 3 meter TD plane I am going to get the wings misaligned. Assume that I get the angles of attack a bit different from right to left wing, I try and get this right but realistically that's impossible. What is the tolerance of this misalignment that I need to worry about before it begins to affect performance? happy trails - Rob Glover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question for any RES, Nostalgia and Woodcrafter pilots out there
In a message dated 9/2/03 2:21:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The pilot that won NOS also flew the Challenger in RES and was in the top 10. Actually my good friend Jim Vanderzyl, NOS winner with his Challenger, flew his big Astro Jeff in RES to 6th place at this years nats, not his Challenger. Bill G.
Re: [RCSE] Question for any RES, Nostalgia and Woodcrafter pilots out there
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <> > My six plane canidates are: > Viking (Mk. I or Mk. II) > Legionair (whenever it becomes available) > Marauder > Paragon > Challenger > Astro-Jeff > > I am open to any write in canidates as well if you would like to recommend > something. Would be interested in hearing your likes, dislikes, horror > stories or anything else for that manner. > > > I built a Paragon last winter and flew it this summer for both 30 minute LSF3 flights and the 1K XC flight as well as the RES and NOS nats. I like the Paragon a lot, and find it fits my flying style well. You probably already heard this, but there were 2 Paragons in the top 5 in NOS this year and a Challenger won the event. The Challenger is a real nice plane. I'm assuming one would unplug the flaps to make it RES legal? The pilot that won NOS also flew the Challenger in RES and was in the top 10. If you do build a Paragon, be sure to add carbon to the spars. I did this on mine, and the wing is quite stout. Many folks only fly NOS type ships in nice conditions, but at the Nats this year there was an 8+ mph wind and quite a few models shed parts on launch. If you are planning to contest with one of these planes try to find somebody that has built one and flew it in 15+ mph winds and pick their brain on what kind of mods (if any) they did. I have flown my Paragon in conditions like this and can attest the wing is quite strong with the extra carbon I added. I laminated a multilayer (tapered) 3 ounce unidirectional carbon spar to the spruce that came with the kit. I'm assuming you are planning on adding spoilers to whatever you choose to build. This would certainly be the way to go, even if you were not planning on competing. I made my first two flights with the Paragon before I had put the spoiler linkages in, and found myself quite high and wanting to burn off altitude. Ryan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question for chemists/chemical engineers
Mark: (members) This reply in no way represents my institution's view, expressed or otherwise, etc!!! * The recent Emergency Response Guidebook: Do no use water or foam. Small Fires: Dry chemical, soda ash, lime or sand Large Fires: DRY sand, dry chemical, soda ash, lime or withdraw from area and let fire burn. *** My added info! I just did a demo in lecture with the alkali metals (Li, Na, K, Cs, Rb) in water, neat, BUT...!!! Li reacts with water/moisture to produce heat, lithium hydroxide (similar to Lye or Draino) and hydrogen gas. In the case of Na, K, Cs, RB, the heat produced is sufficient to ignite the hydrogen produced. I am not aware of the energy produce by lithium reaction with moisture to be enough to ignite the hydrogen gas, but out on a hot dry field. REMEMBER, hydrogen gas is only produced if the lithium metal comes in contact with moisture/water. The ammo box with a bag of sand to throw in on top of the burning battery is a good idea. Do not close the lid --- heat - pressure might be even more exciting. The dry chemical fire extinguisher called ABC Dry Chemical is an excellent device to have with you. Do not use a CO2! My VW Vanagon came with this type of fire extinguisher. Hope this helps. Jim Ealy On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:19:37, "Aerofoam" wrote: > I have been using very large Li-poly batteries and > am very aware of the potential for a serious > melt down/lithium fire. > My chemical knowledge is limited to being a connoisseur > of fine solvents! > The question is: > Is there any chemical or element that would interfere or cancel > the reaction of a lithium fire? > My thought would be to make a charging box out of an ammo box > and line it with more of this material than necessary to snuff the reaction. > Sort of like control rods in a reactor. > Is this possible > > Mark Mech > www.aerofoam.com > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > > Jim Ealy Education by Demonstration RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question for chemists/chemical engineers
Aerofoam wrote: Is there any chemical or element that would interfere or cancel the reaction of a lithium fire? Not a chemist, but I flipped a coin before going to university and that was one of the choices... Lithium "burning" is actually oxidation (we call iron oxidation "rust"). The problem with Lithium is that it is highly reactive, to the point where it can rip apart water (H2O) to get at the oxygen. Also the recation is very exothermic (gives off heat). Smothering Lithium to remove the oxygen is the best way. A sealed container will help limit the oxygen it can get, as long as it stays closed of course! Using a second container is a good idea too. In the lab, Lithium and other volatile metals are usually stored in mineral oil or kerosene, though the containers have to be completely full as they tend to float. This container is then stored in another air-tight container, sometimes with a dessicant like silica gel (removes water from the air). -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question on the Death Spiral from Tip Pannel Loss
!!!Right Tip Panel Loss!!! OK! Now I see what your saying. Right Rudder to gain speed than Left rudder to pull out of dive and keep the right short wing higher till you can get it down. The Right rudder threw me. So if you have plenty of speed just go to the Left rudder to keep the short wing up. Larry Taylor KF6JBG Assistant CD CVRC Visalia Fall Festival 2003 Oct 4th & 5th Club Web is http://www.cvrcsoaring.com - Original Message - From: "ewilson12000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Larry Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on the Death Spiral from Tip Pannel Loss Larry That is what I did. With a lot of height right rudder and full down gave me enough speed for the short wing side to support the plane. Then I pulled up to raise the nose and full LEFT rudder was used to hold the wing up. Speed was the secret here. Had to have enough lift to support the short wing side. This took a lot of speed. Since I was near the top of the launch I had a slim chance. It was all over in seconds. The dive looked more like a vertical barrel row instead of a spin. If a spin was allow to happen there would have been no chance of pulling it out as the rudder would have been blocked out from any air going over it. It was the down elevator that made it work. The pullout was at less than 20 foot altitude and the plane was going like a bat out of hell. I hope this doesn't confuse you and on another plane with a less effective rudder it may not work and at lower launch height it would not have worked either. I was lucky this time. In 30+ years flying sailplanes this is the third time I have had something like this happen. Only second successful save. If I was you I would not worry about it too much. Once every ten years is not too bad. Edwin Wilson --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Larry Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question?? Why would you want to roll your sailplane into the short wing > when you lost your tip on that side?? > I have not had this happen to myself. I've seen it and every time they > have saved there plane. Am I wrong in my thinking. I always thought that you > need to keep the short wing high and the long normal wing low. > I go over in my head what to do if something happens before I go and fly.. > If I get a early Pop Off what do I do? A late Pop Off what do I do?. If the > retrieval line hangs up on the Elevator, what do I do?. If I get radio > interference what do I do? If the Tip breaks off what do I do?. When flying > a power plane and its going to crash I Kill The Engine before it hits but > that not used here. I answer these question to myself so that its fresh in > my mind When something happens I don't want to think about it to long I want > to react to it by planning ahead. > If Edwin is correct in what he said he did. My sailplane would be in the > ground if it had happen to me. > Is he right ? Or his my planning right? > > Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 6:58 AM > Subject: [RCSE] WARNING BOT ARF PROBLEMS > First launch at the Nat's ( I was tapping and NOT pulling hard )in a 15 mph > wind and the right outer panel blew off. I was able with FULL right rudder > and a lot of down to get some control back and prevent the death spiral. > > Edwin Wilson > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question for you electric glider guiders
Okay...you guys really need to learn to hit "reply all." :) Most of the replys were along the same lines. BEC's are really made more for "power" type e-planes rather then e-gliders, so I shouldn't expect much battery power avaiable for the RX too long after the BEC cuts in. Most suggested using a seperate RX battery pack into the RX, and disconneting the ESC positive wire so that the ESC still provides throttle control, but does not give power to the RX. Lex Mierop wrote: > > Brett, > Since they were all private replies, it would be appropriate to > summerize the responses for the list > > -l > > -Original Message- > From: Brett Jaffee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question for you electric glider guiders > > Thanks for all the tips guys. I think I'll try a seperate RX pack. > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with > MIME turned off. -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] R/C Slope and Power Homepage http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://members.nbci.com/bjaffee/extra300/ OnTheWay Quake 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question for you electric glider guiders
Thanks for all the tips guys. I think I'll try a seperate RX pack. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question about cleaning mylars
I just bagged my first wing from start to finish and now I have a bit of a mess that I need help with. I did not take the realy clean approach it was more of the shotgun approach in painting my mylars. I pulled the wing out of the bag this morning and it looked pretty good and the mylars came out clean where the wing was sitting but on the outer fringes of the mylars are still covered in paint and I just don't know how to clean them without damaging them. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tripp RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Question Broken Antenna on Eclipse
Sorry everyone it was the transmitter antenna that broke. jim On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 01:12 PM, Art Mcnamee wrote: Hi James, I don't understand your problem. Did the antenna pull out of the receiver? If so it must be resoldered back to the circuit board. The Eclipse fus. has plenty of room for a full size antenna to lay in the bottom of the fus. Why would you use a base loaded one instead? Thermals, Art James Capparell wrote: Whoops - it just came off. The little pins tore the softer antenna body will this work if I just stick it back in. Volmer peak in Berkeley is working this time of year and I don't want to miss too much. Where can I purchase a shorty or Base loaded one? Thanks jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question Broken Antenna on Eclipse
Whoops - it just came off. The little pins tore the softer antenna body will this work if I just stick it back in. Volmer peak in Berkeley is working this time of year and I don't want to miss too much. Where can I purchase a shorty or Base loaded one? Thanks jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Question For Those Who Bag There Own and a Off Topic Computer Help/Question
I bagged a set of full flying stabs @ 3 months ago. I used Krylon (yellow) on waxed Mylar's. Painted the Mylar's and let set overnight then bagged. The problem is, this weekend was one of the first weekends the tail had any long term exposure to direct sun and I noticed in two or three places there is what looks like small bubble like delamination @ 3/8"w x 3/4"l. Anyone know why this may have happened and how to prevent it from happening again in the future? I did use toilet paper and a roller to blot any excess epoxy, could I have remove too much? The wing on this plane was made by Phil Barns and I am fairly certain he used the same paint. *Computer Help* Can one of you computer experts advise me on how to get my new Dell 8200 (Window XP, home addition Os) ,which doesn't seem to like the Ethernet card, to work with my old Gateway (Windows 98 Os) system, which seems to have no problem with the Ethernet card. I called Dells support and they tell me they don't support the Ethernet card which seems funny since they installed it. Thanks Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question about receiver crystal
If your receiver is JR compatible all you need to do is replace the crystal in the receiver. Steve At 05:03 PM 3/29/2002 -0600, Stan Myers wrote: >I have a Hitec Super Slim with channel 33 crystal. I've just purchased a >8103 channel 38. Is it just a matter of pulling the old and plugging in a >38? Where do I go to get one. Sorry for such a basic question but I've got >to start somewhere. > >Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] question - sailplane related...
wow, thanks for the detail!! i am looking at scale docs, checking out the mfr sites, polling folks with similar planes - this is very helpful one question - the 9" root sounds short to me i am eyeballing / doing some rough guestimates based on drawings, and i come up w/ a cord of about 12 (up to 14) inches... is that number (your 9) from your calculations, plans, what? thanks again, brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] question - sailplane related...
doing some layouts on my new toy, this discus/ventus body (1/3.5 scale) anyone do a similar project? ideas on what to expect for a good weight? what about tail plane airfoil? did you scale up the elevator? i'm guessing around 12.5 - 13.5 inches on the wing root, am i way off on that? thanks! brent DARTS * and DJA guys, sorry to see you pare down your offerings - i've had a chrysalis 2m and a monarch hlg... top notch stuff hope that doesnt mean we wont see you all flying out in YS : ) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] QUESTION ABOUT SIRIUS PRO SERIES
I am about to purchase a Sirius Pro Series Charger. But I looked all over their site and couldn't find out if it just charged NiCd batteries, NiMH batteries, or both. If someone could strait this out for me that would be great! Clarke RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question about appropriate posting material.
John Gossett wrote: > > I have noticed from my lurking here for awile that > this forum tends to be used for questions in general, > with frequent posting of opinions and such (eg. left > vs right turns). I haven't noticed a great deal of > posts about flying in general such as my stories about > building and flying the highlander and the skeeter. My > question is, is it okay to post such stories here? Personally, as long as it is in soaring related, or even weakly aviation related, I don't mind getting it. I'm real good at scanning text and using the delete key (I get several hundred e-mails a day - my record is ~2300). I _don't_ think anyone should filter out bad news either. Stupid mistakes and tragic losses are the best way to learn a lesson. Sometimes they can even be humorous in a "I'm glad it wasn't me" sort of reflexive way, or "there is one tree within a mile, and it ate my plane" situation. So just post :) Use your own judgement, and try not to take any "flames" you may get personally or seriously; a few list members seem to complain about anything _they_ don't like to read. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [RCSE] question about lift
Thermals are associated with temperature differential not temperature. Thermals are plentiful in winter also. Boundary layer physics determines how thermals are born,develope, and operate. The boudary layer exists at altitudes from roughly 600-800' AGL. Where much of model "thermalling" takes place, is in this mixed bag of variable conditions. Slope lift interacts as a variable, but thermals exist independantly as a result of triggers which may be assciated with a slope or man made obsticles. I enjoy giant scale soaring because we soar and thermal above, or at the upper limits of the boundary layer where thermals are smooth, powerful, and less prone to suddenly dissapate. I also love to hand launch at the other end of the spectrum for entirly opposite reasons and challenges. See the scale soaring web page, and look for the new tech tips link on the index page, there is a terrific article written by boundary layer physicist Wayne Angevine. Wayne is also a model sailplane flyer and a great guy. The article is written in plain english and easy to understand. JD John Derstine E-mail; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scale Soaring: http://www.Geocities.com/scalesoar -Original Message- From: glidn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 1:08 PM To: [RCSE] Subject: [RCSE] question about lift Hello all. Have a question about lift that I started thinking about after flying at Coyote hills yesterday. It was a pretty decent day there, wind blowing straight in to the bowl(this doesn't happen that often). Under these conditions not a lot of wind is needed to generate good lift. But for the amount of wind we had lift wasn't as strong as one would think. I have seen lesser wind, from same direction produce better lift there. But this was a late spring/early summer wind, which was considerably warmer than yesterdays cold wind. Would air temperature affect the amount of lift generated given all other factors being the same and discounting the occasional thermal blowing thru? Thanks NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Sirius and JR Transmitters...
Is there an adaptor for the Cockpit? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Sirius and JR Transmitters...
At 10:46 AM 03/21/2001, you wrote: >So, my question to the masses...can you (do you) use your sirrius charger >to charge up your JR transmitter, or is the reverse polarity of the plug a >stopper (or something elselike the fuse). I have modified my sirrius >transmitter lead by cutting it in half and terminating both ends with >molex connectors so I can swap polarity by simply rolling the connectors >for the lead. It works fine for my Airtronics setup, but now I'm hesitant >to plug either of my JR's into it. (Yet my Litco works fine with the same >type of modified lead. in fact I use the same lead segment for both the >Litco and the Sirrius.) Has this just been a fluke, or should I keep the >Sirrius away from the JR? I use my Sirius charger for my JR radios all the time. I did have the same thing you describe happen one. Turned out the barrel plug I was using allowed two of the three contacts in the radio charge jack to short as I plugged it in. Only happened some times, but it blew the fuse. My site www.ralphweaver.com MTI products www.magtechinc.net Ralph Weaver "Never have more dogs than car windows." Fishers, IN USA _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Sirius and JR Transmitters...
Smooth Landings! BTW George can you post the adaptation for the Profi 3030. Smooth Sailing,Karlton Spindlehttp://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: George Joy To: Les Grammer Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Sirius and JR Transmitters... Les, The only reason you could have this problem is if there is a short in the JR adapter. The charger cannot put out enough current to blow the fuse, and if you were to plug in the Tx plug without the adapter it would not turn on at all. I just read the last paragraph, the probable cause is that the JR plug in the radio is a different size as well as reverse polarity. My guess is that there is a very high resistance connection because of the different sizes. This is why we sell an adapter for the JR and request that you NOT cut the wires to change polarity. THE PLUG IS A DIFFERENT SIZE. Put it back the way it was designed and get our JR Adapter $7.95 and I guarantee this will eliminate your problem.Smooth Landings GeorgeAt 07:46 AM 3/21/01 -0800, you wrote: Quick question...I have a JR 8103 in good working conditionnow. Last year, I hooked it up to my Sirrius (sp?) charger, and when the little blinky said 'done', took it off and went off to fly. Went to turn on my JR, and no familiar 'beep' of the power coming up. Just a dead screen. Pulled the frequency module and checked the fuse...burnt. So, I replaced it, turned on my JR, and nothing. Checked the fuse again...burnt! At that point I gave up and sent it off for repairs. $60 later it returned with an explanation of 'a short' as the cause. I then decided to use my Alpha-4 for future charging (since it tells you when you have things reversed).Forgot all about that incident 'til last weekend, when I found I needed to charge my transmitter at the field, and I only had my Sirius. I hooked it up...got the little green light, and went off to help out until it was charged. Came back about 30 minutes later to find the green light blinking. Took it off, when to power it upnothing!Fearing the worst, I pulled the module, checked the fuseburnt again! I had one more fuse left, so I put it in, fully expecting to turn on my transmitter and fry it, but to my surprise it came right up.So, my question to the masses...can you (do you) use your sirrius charger to charge up your JR transmitter, or is the reverse polarity of the plug a stopper (or something elselike the fuse). I have modified my sirrius transmitter lead by cutting it in half and terminating both ends with molex connectors so I can swap polarity by simply rolling the connectors for the lead. It works fine for my Airtronics setup, but now I'm hesitant to plug either of my JR's into it. (Yet my Litco works fine with the same type of modified lead. in fact I use the same lead segment for both the Litco and the Sirrius.) Has this just been a fluke, or should I keep the Sirrius away from the JR?RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Sirius and JR Transmitters...
Les, The only reason you could have this problem is if there is a short in the JR adapter. The charger cannot put out enough current to blow the fuse, and if you were to plug in the Tx plug without the adapter it would not turn on at all. I just read the last paragraph, the probable cause is that the JR plug in the radio is a different size as well as reverse polarity. My guess is that there is a very high resistance connection because of the different sizes. This is why we sell an adapter for the JR and request that you NOT cut the wires to change polarity. THE PLUG IS A DIFFERENT SIZE. Put it back the way it was designed and get our JR Adapter $7.95 and I guarantee this will eliminate your problem. Smooth Landings George At 07:46 AM 3/21/01 -0800, you wrote: Quick question...I have a JR 8103 in good working conditionnow. Last year, I hooked it up to my Sirrius (sp?) charger, and when the little blinky said 'done', took it off and went off to fly. Went to turn on my JR, and no familiar 'beep' of the power coming up. Just a dead screen. Pulled the frequency module and checked the fuse...burnt. So, I replaced it, turned on my JR, and nothing. Checked the fuse again...burnt! At that point I gave up and sent it off for repairs. $60 later it returned with an explanation of 'a short' as the cause. I then decided to use my Alpha-4 for future charging (since it tells you when you have things reversed). Forgot all about that incident 'til last weekend, when I found I needed to charge my transmitter at the field, and I only had my Sirius. I hooked it up...got the little green light, and went off to help out until it was charged. Came back about 30 minutes later to find the green light blinking. Took it off, when to power it upnothing! Fearing the worst, I pulled the module, checked the fuseburnt again! I had one more fuse left, so I put it in, fully expecting to turn on my transmitter and fry it, but to my surprise it came right up. So, my question to the masses...can you (do you) use your sirrius charger to charge up your JR transmitter, or is the reverse polarity of the plug a stopper (or something elselike the fuse). I have modified my sirrius transmitter lead by cutting it in half and terminating both ends with molex connectors so I can swap polarity by simply rolling the connectors for the lead. It works fine for my Airtronics setup, but now I'm hesitant to plug either of my JR's into it. (Yet my Litco works fine with the same type of modified lead. in fact I use the same lead segment for both the Litco and the Sirrius.) Has this just been a fluke, or should I keep the Sirrius away from the JR? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question?
I was told by DJ Aerotech that the Monarch/Wizard series was discontinued earlier this year in favor of the Spectre. Parts (wings, fuses, tails) will still be made available separately, but no kits. Sheldon's Hobbies may still have kits in stock; I bought one from them several months ago and their index still lists them. - Original Message - From: "Charles Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Soaring listserver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: [RCSE] Question? > When I purchased a Spectre I was told that the Monarch would be > discontinued,,, I have monarchs,,, I really like this ship,, > I saw on DJ's website that the Monarch is offered > Whats up??? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Question?
When I purchased a Spectre I was told that the Monarch would be discontinued,,, I have monarchs,,, I really like this ship,, I saw on DJ's website that the Monarch is offered Whats up??? Charlie RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Receivers - Futaba negative shift?
Based on the fact that this is from Sheldons, just make sure everything is in pristine conditions. I've heard horry stories about returning stuff there, even if it was because of an error they made. Jim Cubbage wrote: > Ok, that helps. So a Hitec receiver should work fine with a Futaba radio > since they are both shifted. The Airt Z one won't so I will exchange it > tomorrow. I need to get a 7 channel so I can do some mixing with my > ailerons. > > Jim > > -Original Message- > From: Karlton Spindle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 1:54 PM > To: Jim Cubbage; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question regarding Receivers - Futaba negative > shift? > > Jim in the USA Futaba and Hitec alter the signal or have the data inverse to > the rest of the world. So only radios that can change the shift of the > signal to Futaba TXs and Hitec shift can talk to the futaba Hitec shift > receivers. It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SERVO plugs. > > Airtronics was the odd ball on plugs with having pos on the outside and neg > in the middle (a better plug though IMHO) but with the NEW Z they put Pos in > the middle and we all have the same cruddy plugs now > :( > > Smooth Sailing, > Karlton Spindle > http://www.MultiplexRC.com > - Original Message - > From: Jim Cubbage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 10:21 AM > Subject: [RCSE] Question regarding Receivers - Futaba negative shift? > > > > > Hello, > > > > I went to Sheldon's in San Jose last weekend to get some supplies. I told > > him I had a Futaba radio and I needed two Hitec micro 555 receivers and a > > bunch of HS-55 servos. > > > > When I got home and unpacked I noticed that the micro were labeled > > Hitec and Jr\Airt-Z respectively. All the Servos were labeled Hitec\Jr\Z. > > > > In putting them together, I noticed that the servo leads only fit into > each > > receiver one way, black lead outwards, but I have been hearing about > > something called negative shift on Futaba stuff. > > > > What does that mean? Will what I have work since the servo's will only > fit > > in one way? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Jim Cubbage > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" > and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ Brett Jaffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.earthlink.net/~jaffee The Unoffical Extra 300 Home Page http://www.bayarea.net/~nathan/extra300 OnTheWay Quake 2 and 3 Server Utility http://www.planetquake.com/ontheway _ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question ....
>ROFLAG rolling on floor laughing at Gordy Since that one get used soo much it should be shorter LAG Laughing at Gordy RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question ....
You forgot ROFLAG rolling on floor laughing at Gordy Smooth Sailing, Karlton Spindle Http://www.MultiplexRC.com - Original Message - From: Paul Breed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 4:20 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Question > > FYI for your information > > FWIW for what it is worth > > IMHO In my humble opinion. > > IMO In my opinion. > > LOL Laughing out Loud > > ROFL Rolling on floor laughing. > > IANAL I am not a lawyer > > YMMV your mileage may vary. > > TLA (Three letter acronym) > > :-P > > Paul > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] question about Zurich sunglasses
In a message dated 01/16/2000 5:53:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I am leaning towards the ones with the varying tint as these would provide sunglare protection where it is needed the most (top two-thirds of the lense), while providing good visibility when I look through the bottom third of the glasses for picking up the pieces of my glider after a "rough" landing. Any opinions? cliff >> Cliff, The Silver Gradient lenses are the ones that you are describing. And yes, they will provide good protection when flying as well as a not so dark portion for reading or "picking up the pieces of your glider after a 'rough" landing." Remember that if you order from Bowman's Hobbies, we offer free shipping to RCSE members. (888)296-9-1991 or email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Question on pull-pull elevator...
Les, You're asking for trouble. Go down to your local kite store and buy the end of a roll of 100 - 150 pound test spectra. I have used this line without any trouble on ships up to 10 pounds. Jim Farris Pearland, Texas >Sorry, no story this time, just a question. I'm setting up an open-class>TD ship, and installing a pull-pull elevator. I'm was planning on using a>kevlar line by Berkley (Fireline). Is 20lb strength sufficient, or am I>asking for trouble?>Inquiring minds want to know!
Re: [RCSE] Question on pull-pull elevator
For demonstration purposes I have made a 3m meter glider with a foam fuselage covered with glass or paper and the wings made with blue foam spruce spars and brown paper covering . For control I used pull pull through McDonald's drinking straws exiting all together just in front of the fin. Of course this was a good split to the rudder but definitely offset a bit to the elevator. The elevator had to be off set a long way to the side to clear the long rudder. The plane flew well.I used a bolt through the dowel I had put in the rudder before vacuuming on the brown paper. The bolt extended about one inch beyond each side of the hinge line. I made up for some of the offset or setback in the two surfaces by using wheels on the servos. I pulled not from the center hole that would make them a straight line on the axis of the servo wheel but back one hole on each side. I used the Kevlar similar to what Sullivan supplies in their pull pull kits but I got it on the control line reel probably from the same Sullivan. This is supposed to be good for about 120#. I knotted at the control surface end then put it through the hole on the servo on both sides then around the screw in the center. If you remember to wind in the direction of the tightening of the screw and leave enough slack the lines can easily be made quite tight. Kevlar has little give so don't over tighten the Kevlar or the screw in the center of the servo holding them. Bottom line a cheap cheap cheap good flying plane. Or to be more on the sales side a very inexpensive unit. Since then I have attempted to sophisticate the plane and have made a John Sullivan type fuselage with a glass blue foam spruce spar wing. This time The fuselage was hollow so I put a nylon exit in front of the fin to keep from cutting the Kevlar where it would be sawing into the exit hole. This combination worked very well too.I made the stab to be removable by making a saddle on the boom the same time I made the wing saddle but put bolts up through the fuse into the stab and down through the wing into the fuselage. Stab assembly is not too difficult and it permitted putting the whole combination into a large gun case. The whole combination came together finally with a decent day to fly yesterday . In my case of learning I was happy to have overdone it on the strength of the line that I used. The Kevlar held up well except when I took it around for demonstration . I left the stab loose so you could easily see how it worked and with it flopping as it was passed from person to person it really does a job fraying that type of Kevlar. Rick Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 18:54:39 + From: dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Les Grammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question on pull-pull elevator... Message-ID: <kOl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Les Tried fire line and it stretches under the tension (Rudder not Elevator) I went to 30lb pike stainless ptfe covered trace and never suffered another problem you can get crimps that fit it also so making up connections are easy. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Les Grammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Sorry, no story this time, just a question. I'm setting up an open-class >TD ship, and installing a pull-pull elevator. I'm was planning on using a >kevlar line by Berkley (Fireline). Is 20lb strength sufficient, or am I >asking for trouble? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question on pull-pull elevator...
Les Tried fire line and it stretches under the tension (Rudder not Elevator) I went to 30lb pike stainless ptfe covered trace and never suffered another problem you can get crimps that fit it also so making up connections are easy. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Les Grammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Sorry, no story this time, just a question. I'm setting up an open-class >TD ship, and installing a pull-pull elevator. I'm was planning on using a >kevlar line by Berkley (Fireline). Is 20lb strength sufficient, or am I >asking for trouble? > >Inquiring minds want to know! > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question about Cool Batteries
Ok, I went to Radio Shack to check out the lithiums and I bought the cr123's but they aren't button type did I get the right ones? This is for my monarch running 4 servos, thanks -- Glenn R. Whitcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Question for Climmax PF owners/builders
I was wondering if anyone who has put one of these planes together can share with me what type (brand) of radio gear they used in this HLG and at how much did it tip the scale? Thanks in advance, Edgar "The Soaring Junkie" RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Question?
At 10:28 PM 8/8/99 -0700, Lee Cox wrote: >Has any one had any experience with sending parts for repair to FMA.??? >I sent a receiver in for repair about three weeks ago. MY mistake was >to not sent receipt request.!! I sent VIA US mail. after not hearing >from them I called to see what was happening with my receiver?? I was >told they have not received it ? ? ? That is always the first hurdle. I always call several days after shipping to be sure it has arrived. And always insure what you send. I sent in a Fortress 2000, Rx, to FMA and they were kind enough to repair it, NO Charge. And it was over a year old. No Bad experiences here. Steve Meyer http://www.mcs.net/~stmeyer/ S.O.A.R. in Gurnee, IL S.O.A.R. Web Page http://www.mcs.net/~stmeyer/SOAR/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]