Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-29 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Angus Davidson schreef op 28-10-2014 18:01:

Hi Jill

Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the
first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been
inaccurate with their advise,

Kind regards

Angus

But then again: if more and clear information would be available 
publicly (not just to the resellers)

some of the problems would possibly vanish rather automagically I guess.
It will depend on what update Autodesk actually will produce,
but if it's well constructed and worded, I'm sure the resellers will 
benefit from it instantly as well
and the users will have documentation to point out any possible 
inconsistencies.


Greetz
Leendert

--

Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue
Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com



RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-29 Thread Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
Hi guys,
Actually the resellers all have an extremely detailed FAQ with more info than 
your average customer would care to wade through: that was the rationale behind 
the abbreviated one for the customers and the idea that you would talk to your 
resellers for more info. As mentioned, the customer one got a little bit 
over-abbreviated. I am trying to get that fixed. Unfortunately some resellers 
are more attentive to the materials we provide than others. :-)

Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: October-28-14 1:01 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Hi Jill

Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first 
point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with 
their advise,

Kind regards

Angus



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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-29 Thread Jason S
Great, and even if it may have missed a point or two,  the May version 
was already was quite straightforward.

 Thanks very-much for your efforts in making it so!
J

On 10/29/14 12:14, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Actually the resellers all have an extremely detailed FAQ with more info than 
your average customer would care to wade through: that was the rationale behind 
the abbreviated one for the customers and the idea that you would talk to your 
resellers for more info. As mentioned, the customer one got a little bit 
over-abbreviated. I am trying to get that fixed. Unfortunately some resellers 
are more attentive to the materials we provide than others. :-)

Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson
Sent: October-28-14 1:01 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Hi Jill

Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the first 
point of call for the customers and so far they in large been inaccurate with 
their advise,

Kind regards

Angus







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-28 Thread Jason S

Thanks (again) Jill!  Looking forward to it!
J


On 10/27/14 10:53, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hey guys,
I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you can 
purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added. Please 
don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information that has since 
changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your options, please speak 
to your reseller or ask me.

Thanks,
Jill





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-28 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Jill

Can these changes please be updated the resellers. They are normally the
first point of call for the customers and so far they in large been
inaccurate with their advise,

Kind regards

Angus

On 2014/10/28, 6:54 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks (again) Jill!  Looking forward to it!
J


On 10/27/14 10:53, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
 Hey guys,
 I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you
can purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added.
Please don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information
that has since changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your
options, please speak to your reseller or ask me.

 Thanks,
 Jill



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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-27 Thread Tim Leydecker

On a related note, it is a good time to check the Autodesk Store for the Desktop 
Subscription.

In my specific case (e.g. locationlicenses) I see that updating my 
subscription before Feb. 1st 2015:

Autodesk Entertainment Creation Suite Ultimate Subscription Advanced Support 1 
Year from my reseller

for 1.380,40 € incl. taxes


is a better deal than ending up buying a completely new license at the 
Autodesk Store:


Entertainment Creation Suite Ultimate for either monthly 365 €  or annual 2.900 
€ (plus taxes)


I´m sure there will be special promos and license transfer offerings into 
Desktop Subscription deals available
but still, the Autodesk Store gives an idea where software rental prices are 
supposed to land in the future.


In a nutshell, from that I will expect to have to pay at least twice as much 
per year.

Except for Mudbox...

Cheers,

tim



On 26.10.2014 23:55, Jason S wrote:

2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.

4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription.

That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable!

and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the suite 
use to be the only way left to get new seats,
and I admit I didn't even check the updated FAQ dating back to last May!

But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI community from 
Hirazi,  don't even know how he found it (seemingly unannounced)
(but thanks to Hirazi too! :] )

And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike Photoshop
(~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 years),
SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users will 
also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based only on very 
similar sentiment, while
probably not having (literally) 10$/month bargain promotional 'introductory' 
rental prices.

anyways,
cheers!


On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused:

1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to 
the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or 
free Max - until Feb 1,
2016.
2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.
3)  If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can 
upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for 
you if you don't want
an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how old your license is. 
This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your reseller.
4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. 
However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may 
very well want to
consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your Maya or Max seat 
current.

Hope this helps,
Jill






RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-27 Thread Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
Hey guys,
I agree the updated FAQ (May) should contain the information that you can 
purchase new seats of the bundle - I'll see if I can get that added. Please 
don't refer to the original FAQ because it contains information that has since 
changed (for the better). If in doubt about any of your options, please speak 
to your reseller or ask me.

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:55 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.

4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription.

That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable!

and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the suite 
use to be the only way left to get new seats, and I admit I didn't even check 
the updated FAQ dating back to last May!

But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI community 
from Hirazi,  don't even know how he found it (seemingly
unannounced)
(but thanks to Hirazi too! :] )

And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike Photoshop
(~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 years), 
SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users will 
also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based only on very 
similar sentiment, while probably not having (literally) 10$/month bargain 
promotional 'introductory' rental prices.

anyways,
cheers!


On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
 So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused:

 1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to 
 the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or 
 free Max - until Feb 1, 2016.
 2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
 price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.
 3)  If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you 
 can upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option 
 for you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on 
 how old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact 
 your reseller.
 4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. 
 However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you 
 may very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep 
 your Maya or Max seat current.

 Hope this helps,
 Jill


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-26 Thread Jason S

2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.

4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription.

That's great Jill, seems much more reasonable!

and sorry if I confused the bundle with the Ultimate Suite, because the 
suite use to be the only way left to get new seats,

and I admit I didn't even check the updated FAQ dating back to last May!

But even now searching for it, only turned up a 3 post thread on SI 
community from Hirazi,  don't even know how he found it (seemingly 
unannounced)

(but thanks to Hirazi too! :] )

And that may actually be much more actractive now, since not unlike 
Photoshop
(~6.5 mil out of ~8mil still sticking to the last perpetual ver after 2 
years),
SI users wont be the only ones using 'last versions', as many Maya users 
will also seemingly stick to 'last' perpetual versions as well, based 
only on very similar sentiment, while probably not having (literally) 
10$/month bargain promotional 'introductory' rental prices.


anyways,
cheers!


On 10/25/14 10:37, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused:

1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to 
the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or 
free Max - until Feb 1, 2016.
2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.
3)  If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can 
upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for 
you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how 
old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your 
reseller.
4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. 
However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may 
very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your 
Maya or Max seat current.

Hope this helps,
Jill





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-25 Thread Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
So, just to reiterate in case anyone's still confused:

1) If you have a current seat of Softimage on subscription you can migrate to 
the bundle for free - effectively just choose whether you want free Maya or 
free Max - until Feb 1, 2016.
2) You can buy the Maya + Softimage or Max + Softimage bundle for the same 
price as Maya or Max until Feb 1, 2016. Contact your reseller.
3)  If you have a seat of Softimage that is six versions or less back, you can 
upgrade to the bundle until Feb 1, 2015. This should be a cheaper option for 
you if you don't want an additional seat. How much cheaper will depend on how 
old your license is. This is why the FAQ focuses on this. Again, contact your 
reseller.
4)  In neither of the above cases 2) or 3) do you need to be on subscription. 
However, since upgrades are going away for all products on Feb 1, 2015, you may 
very well want to consider getting on subscription if you want to keep your 
Maya or Max seat current.

Hope this helps,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of phil harbath
Sent: October-24-14 4:13 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

I think it is tough to blame any for NOT totally understanding the situation.

-Original Message-
From: Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:04 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on 
 sub)...

 Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the webinar 
and the post here from jill !

The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus Softimage 2015  
and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya upgrade.
But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it. 

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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Neese
So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a
message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really
hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a
next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even
try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

This is fun!
On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Angus Davidson
Hi Patrick

Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them before 
they will work.

You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4 fully 
functional trial licences.

Kind regards

Angus

From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a message 
about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free vram.  All of the 
values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really 
hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a next 
level workstation card if it would greatly help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant even try 
anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

This is fun!

On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S 
jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese 
patrickne...@gmail.commailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote:
The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.
I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Chapman
Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift
and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error
as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version
behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then
worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!

On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:

  Hi Patrick

  Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them
 before they will work.

  You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow 4
 fully functional trial licences.

  Kind regards

  Angus
  --
 *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

   So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with a
 message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
 vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
 ideas?

 I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
 I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was really
 hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on maybe a
 next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

 Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant
 even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

 This is fun!
 On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Patrick Neese
I thought I just upgraded the driver this week, but...most likely this is
it. I didn't even think of that at 3am :)

I'll give that a go when I return home.

Thanks!

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:10 AM, Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of redshift
 and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same render error
 as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version
 behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then
 worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!

 On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za
 wrote:

  Hi Patrick

  Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have them
 before they will work.

  You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still allow
 4 fully functional trial licences.

  Kind regards

  Angus
  --
 *From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
 *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 *Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

   So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away with
 a message about it being unable to operate with less than 256mb of free
 vram.  All of the values other than the card type are at 0 or 0kb. Any
 ideas?

 I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
 I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I was
 really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help decide on
 maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly help.

 Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I cant
 even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an mi2 file.

 This is fun!
 On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

 On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
 and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
 shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
 I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
 have to buy more from Autodesk.

 I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
 3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

 In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
 ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
 that first, see if it helps.

 Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
 makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
 Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
 problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
 something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Rob Wuijster
I had the same thing over here. Just be sure to have the latest NVIDIA 
drivers installed. Testing RedShift on a GTX 570 atm. :-)



Rob

\/-\/\/

On 24-10-2014 12:10, Rob Chapman wrote:
Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last night at home of 
redshift and after the first render of just a grid it gave me the same 
render error as you about not enough vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I 
was one version behind on latest nvidia drivers - updated to latest 
and redshift then worked fine.  super fast strands rendering!


On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za 
mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote:


Hi Patrick

Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers need to have
them before they will work.

You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure if they still
allow 4 fully functional trial licences.

Kind regards

Angus

*From:* Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com
mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
*Subject:* Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

So I downloaded the redshift demo...and it errors out right away
with a message about it being unable to operate with less than
256mb of free vram.  All of the values other than the card type
are at 0 or 0kb. Any ideas?

I have a gtx 560 ti i believe with 1 gig.  No sli setup.
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near black friday but I
was really hoping I could get a preview of redshift soon to help
decide on maybe a next level workstation card if it would greatly
help.

Backburner's server.exe refuses to run on my second computer so I
cant even try anything there and see if there is a way to queue an
mi2 file.

This is fun!

On Oct 23, 2014 1:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese
patrickne...@gmail.com mailto:patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited
render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I
don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way
from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point
at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2
files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you
have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you
should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask
yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to
fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may
not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.


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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
You might also ask on the redshift
  Forum (very Softimage Friendly)
  
  Beleive me, the "fun" will come soon enough :)
  
  
  On 10/24/14 6:10, Rob Chapman wrote:


  Hey Patrick, I downloaded the latest trail last
night at home of redshift and after the first render of just a
grid it gave me the same render error as you about not enough
vram  - I also have a 560TI.  I was one version behind on latest
nvidia drivers - updated to latest and redshift then worked
fine.  super fast strands rendering!
  
On 24 October 2014 10:13, Angus
  Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za
  wrote:
  

  Hi
Patrick


Did you install the CUDA drivers? All GPU renderers
  need to have them before they will work.


You can have a look at Royal Render. I am not sure
  if they still allow 4 fully functional trial
  licences. 


Kind regards


Angus
  

From: Patrick Neese [patrickne...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 October 2014 10:05 AM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network
      license?



  

  So I downloaded the redshift
demo...and it errors out right away with a
message about it being unable to operate
with less than 256mb of free vram.  All of
the values other than the card type are at 0
or 0kb. Any ideas?
  I have a gtx 560 ti i believe
with 1 gig.  No sli setup. 
I was looking to upgrade to the 970 gtx near
black friday but I was really hoping I could
get a preview of redshift soon to help
decide on maybe a next level workstation
card if it would greatly help. 
  
  Backburner's server.exe refuses
to run on my second computer so I cant even
try anything there and see if there is a way
to queue an mi2 file.
  This is fun! 
  On Oct 23, 2014 1:27
PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:

  Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)
  
  On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau
  wrote:
  
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM,
Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:

  The reseller I talked with said I have
  unlimited render nodes for Max
  and Backburner for Mental Ray and to
  just use that.  I don't know what
  shaders can/can't be used for the
  renders this way from softimage.
  I'm still green with all of this...but
  at this point at least I don't
  have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that
you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite
standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage
standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes
for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you
should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering
  

RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jill Ramsay (Contractor)
Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. 
But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or 
Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this 
is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are 
available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do 
that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage 
rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or 
email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch 
of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on 
this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

 IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least) 
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the 
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of 
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for 
 such things...)

attachment: winmail.dat

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Leendert A. Hartog

Hi Jill,
Elsewhere on this list I noted a couple of days ago that the document 
currently online as the updated FAQ might require some additional 
update, in that it was intentionally sparse, but might have gotten too 
sparse in the process.


Greetz
Leendert

--

Leendert A. Hartog AKA Hirazi Blue
Administrator NOT the owner of si-community.com



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)


We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very 
much available (and also still very useful)


I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little 
known secret? :)


Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on subs. 
But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or 
Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this 
is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The bundles are 
available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do 
that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage 
rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your reseller, or 
email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a bunch 
of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people on 
this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Actually you don't have to answer that, because I think we already know 
the answer.


But otherwise thanks for your presence and support around here!
J

On 10/24/14 13:06, Jason S wrote:
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for 
anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)


We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very 
much available (and also still very useful)


I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little 
known secret? :)


Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you 
are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage 
+ Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only 
available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, 
it is for all products). The bundles are available for purchase for a 
further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that, however if 
you are not on subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no 
change there).


Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com


http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf 



Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S

Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive 
to a bunch of subscribers.


Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say 
people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.

(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone
 looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
 as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a
 non-(internally)-developed product)

 We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
 but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much
 available (and also still very useful)

 I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little
 known secret? :)

 Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

 Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
 J

 On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

 Hi guys,
 Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on
 subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015
 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb
 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products).
 The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need
 to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get
 previous version usage rights (no change there).

 Hope that helps.
 Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your
 reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

 http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/
 products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%
 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

 Thanks,
 Jill

 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
 listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
 Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a
 bunch of subscribers.

 Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
 No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people
 on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
 (If too afraid of making too many sales)

 Why such tight limits?

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
 such things...)





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Phil Harbath
I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

-Original Message-
From: Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone
 looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
 as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a
 non-(internally)-developed product)

 We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
 but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much
 available (and also still very useful)

 I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little
 known secret? :)

 Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

 Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
 J

 On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

 Hi guys,
 Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on
 subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015
 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb
 1, 2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products).
 The bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need
 to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get
 previous version usage rights (no change there).

 Hope that helps.
 Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your
 reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

 http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/
 products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%
 20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

 Thanks,
 Jill

 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-bounces@
 listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
 Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a
 bunch of subscribers.

 Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
 No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people
 on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
 (If too afraid of making too many sales)

 Why such tight limits?

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
 non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
 latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
 existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

 (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
 such things...)





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S
Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on 
sub)...


Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

Buy $ 6825  (more like 7k)

or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think 
would the case )


Upgrade $ 4780


Any of which is just not reasonable if you have SI ...2012/2013/2014 
and would like to update to the latest (last) 2015 version



On Friday, October 24, 2014 13:57:54, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product?

On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for
anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version
(of a non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still
very much available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a
little known secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless
you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the
Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle.
Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 2015 (this is
unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do
not need to be on subs to do that, however if you are not on
subs you do not get previous version usage rights (no change
there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to
your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com
http://autodesk.com


http://static-dc.autodesk.net/__content/dam/autodesk/www/__products/autodesk-softimage/__docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%__20Release%20Announcement_FAQ___UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-bounces@listproc.__autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-bounces@__listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of
Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.__com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as
it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users,
say people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:

IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to
last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to
request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

(Sorry, see erratum added between the asterisk)

Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on 
sub)...



Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

Buy $ 6825  (more like 7k)

or if already specifically purchased the UECS .. (which I hardly think 
would the case **for many** )


Upgrade $ 4780




Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't
  on sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015?
  
  On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:


  
  
I
  was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.
  
  
From: Luc-Eric
Rousseau
Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to
  Network license?

  
  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what
product? 
  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
  my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for
  anyone looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on
  sub),
  as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest
  version (of a non-(internally)-developed product)
  
  We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
  but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's
  still very much available (and also still very useful)
  
  I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a
  little known secret? :)
  
  Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?
  
  Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
  J
  
  On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
  
Hi guys,
Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore
unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get
upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage +
Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1,
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all
products). The bundles are available for purchase for a
further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that,
however if you are not on subs you do not get previous
version usage rights (no change there).

Hope that helps.
Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk
to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

Thanks,
Jill

-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
    Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.

Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's)
as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage
users, say people on this list  + current SI-Community
Users.
(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at
  least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
  access to the
  latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
  same amount of
  existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to
  last one)
  
  (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to
  request/plead for
  such things...)
  

  
  

  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on
 sub)...

 Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite

It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the
webinar and the post here from jill !

The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus
Softimage 2015  and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya
upgrade.
But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it.


Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or 
take).

From: Jason S 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then 
upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:

  I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

--
  From: Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 

  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much 
available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known 
secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

  Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on 
subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 
bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The 
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on 
subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version 
usage rights (no change there).

  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

  
http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

  Thanks,
  Jill

  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a 
bunch of subscribers.

  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people 
on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)

  Why such tight limits?

  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
Hum! might be expensive, but 3k sure
  beats 7k, good to know there's at least an accessible (secret)
  avenue! ;)
  
  On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I
just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was
never on sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax
for free. Wohoo!
 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
  Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  

 

  Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on
sub, you CAN get on sub and then upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:


  

  I
  was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

  
  

  
From:
Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent:
‎10/‎24/‎2014
1:57 PM
  To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject:
Re:
Stand-Alone to Network license?
  
  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 
  
On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, "Jason S" jasonsta...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
  
Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly
  be seen a viable option for anyone looking to get to the
  latest SI (while not being on sub),
  as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest
  version (of a non-(internally)-developed product)
  
  We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
  but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's
  still very much available (and also still very useful)
  
  I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there
  also a little known secret? :)
  
  Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?
  
  Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
  J
  
  On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:
  
  
Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore
  unless you are on subs. But you CAN either buy or get
  upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 bundle or Softimage
  + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1,
  2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for
  all products). The bundles are available for purchase for
  a further year. You do not need to be on subs to do that,
  however if you are not on subs you do not get previous
  version usage rights (no change there).
  
  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk
  to your reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com
  
  http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf
  
  Thanks,
  Jill
  
  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
  [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
  On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  
  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not
  exclusive to a bunch of subscribers.
  
  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+
  SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage
  users, say people on this list  + current SI-Community
  Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)
  
  Why such tight limits?
  
  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:
  
  
  
IMHO,  I
  think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have
  access to the
  latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the
  s

Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
I think it is tough to blame any for NOT totally understanding the 
situation.


-Original Message- 
From: Luc-Eric Rousseau

Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:04 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless I missunderstood (?), the only way to access SI 2015 (if not on
sub)...

Ultimate Entertainment Creation Suite


It's a bit discouraging that you missed all the info in the FAQ, the
webinar and the post here from jill !

The upgrade path for Softimage users is called the Maya plus
Softimage 2015  and it's the same price as just buying Maya or a Maya
upgrade.
But that's not offered on the web, you need to talk to a reseller to get it. 



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread phil harbath
I didn’t bite on this.  As I was only 1 sub behind, so in the the old days with 
AVID, I would have been charge
1 back sub and 1 current sub for a total of 1800 to get current. However, our 
good friends at Autodesk, are not as flexible, and have a more 
concrete approach,  if you are off subs you have to upgrade (2500 or discount 
slightly when on special) and then buy subscription on top of that (600 some 
for Maya).

From: phil harbath 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:06 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

yes, you upgrade and get on sub (both), so it was like 2500 + 600 (give or 
take).

From: Jason S 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 3:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com 
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Phil, do you mean that, if you aren't on sub, you CAN get on sub and then 
upgrade to SI 2015?

On 10/24/14 14:47, Phil Harbath wrote:

  I was quoted around 3000us to upgrade plus subscription.

--
  From: Luc-Eric Rousseau
  Sent: ‎10/‎24/‎2014 1:57 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?


  Sorry, 6k+ to upgrade from what product to what product? 

  On Oct 24, 2014 1:07 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi, my apologies, but that can hardly be seen a viable option for anyone 
looking to get to the latest SI (while not being on sub),
as we are talking about 6k+ only to update to the latest version (of a 
non-(internally)-developed product)

We were refferring to Mudbox when taking about Send-to,
but while Mudbox is also no longer being developped, it's still very much 
available (and also still very useful)

I realize it may not be up-to you, but perhaps is there also a little known 
secret? :)

Would it perhaps be possible to get on sub to get access?

Nevertheles, thanks for your feedback!
J

On 10/24/14 11:55, Jill Ramsay (Contractor) wrote:

  Hi guys,
  Here's the scoop. You cannot get Softimage 2015 anymore unless you are on 
subs. But you CAN either buy or get upgrades to the Softimage + Maya 2015 
bundle or Softimage + Max 2015 bundle. Upgrades are only available into Feb 1, 
2015 (this is unrelated to the Softimage EOL, it is for all products). The 
bundles are available for purchase for a further year. You do not need to be on 
subs to do that, however if you are not on subs you do not get previous version 
usage rights (no change there).

  Hope that helps.
  Please refer to the FAQ for any further questions, or talk to your 
reseller, or email jill.ramsay[AT]autodesk.com

  
http://static-dc.autodesk.net/content/dam/autodesk/www/products/autodesk-softimage/docs/pdf/Softimage%20Last%20Release%20Announcement_FAQ_UPDATE_MAY_20.pdf

  Thanks,
  Jill

  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
  Sent: October-23-14 5:32 PM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

  Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to a 
bunch of subscribers.

  Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
  No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say people 
on this list  + current SI-Community Users.
  (If too afraid of making too many sales)

  Why such tight limits?

  On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)







Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Jason S

  
  
... 
got 3dsmax for free. 
  
  Lol! xD
  
  
  On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
I
just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was
never on sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax
for free. Wohoo!



 

  
From:
softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
  Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM

  

  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Lampi
Hurry up and learn 3DS Max, it's the next to be axed.

UX Designer

www.ericlampi.com

On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  ...  got 3dsmax for free.

 Lol! xD


 On 10/24/14 15:51, Sven Constable wrote:

  I just ordered the upgrade/update to soft2015 NLM and I was never on
 sub. Rather expensive  btw. But!... I got 3dsmax for free. Wohoo!




 *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [
 mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason S
 *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 9:12 PM





RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Hsiao Ming Chia
It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.
The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.
Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:27 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Can't render Mi2's,
Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions,
can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long time 
user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences.
can't not rent,
can't, can't...

You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.


On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote:
You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray 
standalone license.

In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a 
Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to 
the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license 
activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the 
five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to answer 
the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network 
license?




On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese 
patrickne...@gmail.commailto:patrickne...@gmail.com wrote:
Matt thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the
license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is
legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software
the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering.
I'm no lawyer.

But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a
conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my
money.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind 
ml...@carbinestudios.commailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
 Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage 
 dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage 
 with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.

 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: 
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
  
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
  On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and 
 recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 
 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found  
 FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller 
 do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses 
 for 2014 Softimage.

 I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to 
 render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render 
 time.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Patrick N.



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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage
shaders for years.
It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of
mental ray standalone license.
The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or
mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
 Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format.  As long as there 
 are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you 
 send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of 
 because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data.  
 Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if 
 there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a 
 different matter).

 Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file 
 format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental 
 ray, would there be any legal problem?  I think not.  Converting to .mi2 for 
 this purpose is no different.

 Matt



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Patrick Neese
This is long...TL;DR at the bottom

So, I'm using mental ray because it came with Softimage, it is well
established and adding 5 batch render node licenses was supposed to be
cheap. 3rd party renders all seem to lack some feature and are as
expensive as the 5 batch render node upgrade.  Mental ray standalone
is ~$850 a seat.

I have called several re-sellers, I have called Autodesk they didn't
know anything and referred me to resellers.  Resellers are a joke most
of the time, no one knows anything in the complicated Autodesk world.
I was even told I had to find a local reseller by another reseller...I
emailed Autodesk...they just closed the question apparently. I didn't
even get a response, just a request to review my CS experience.

My history with Softimage:

I started learning XSI/Softimage in college when it was AVID based...I
bought a student license...then Autodesk bought it...then I couldn't
get support for my dongle that would stop working randomly for my
student edition to keep learning on it.

I finally wanted to start using it for some vfx on online shorts so I
went to upgrade...Nope...can't upgrade.
I was still a student...and a reseller advised me to buy the current
student package and upgrade...(prior to the free online
stuff)...bought it...Nope Softimage didn't have an upgrade path like
that anymore...even though it was on a catalog my re-seller had and
said maya apparently did still have this path since you could buy it
buy its self.

Years later...I had saved enough to finally buy it
outright...foolishly cashed in some investments. Bought it...and then
found out I could get a discount and the ultimate bundle upgrade with
motionbuilder, mudbox etc for cheapcredit card debit for a
little while sure...~5 months later...they killed Softimage.

Where I'm at now:
So now I have a little money saved to buy a network upgrade for just
Softimage: ~$920...but...I upgraded to Ultimate...so now I have to buy
an upgrade for ALL of them to network not just Softimage: ~$1800.  If
I were a company and making money...that's not a terrible price. But,
I'm paying more for software that is killed and couldn't possibly lead
me to a new career in 3d...

Reseller says that is still an option and checked with my serial. I
don't need network upgrade for the full bundle...and I can't/won't
afford that. I don't like maya and max now on the principle of the
Autodesk buy out and kill process.  I'm probably never going to do
this as a job so it's hard to justify another 1800 for some project
that will get posted online and lead to nothing, but the cost of
renting server time for a small project was the same as just buying 5
nodes.  How is it i paid around $200 for max(broken apart) in the
bundle...but I get unlimited mental ray licenses...yet for Softimage
at $2500 or whatever it was i get one node locked license...

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I wish companies ending their usage of Softimage could transfer a
license with render nodes...but 2nd hand software is illegal because
it's a license...even if the software is discontinued...

TL;DR I've spent lots of money over the years trying to be a
hobbyist...Can't upgrade a single product from the Ultimate bundle to
network license.  Reseller says use 3dsmax backburner for mental ray
rendering of MI2 files.  Resellers mostly don't know what is going on.
Autodesk CS doesn't know what's going on. I should learn Blender.


On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mental ray standalone from Autodesk has come with the Softimage
 shaders for years.
 It renders mi2 from Max, Maya, Softimage. There is only one kind of
 mental ray standalone license.
 The batch licenses you get with the app are to run xsibatch or
 mayabatch, etc., it is not to run ray.exe

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
 Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format.  As long as there 
 are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you 
 send to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of 
 because at that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data.  
 Besides, I've never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if 
 there were softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a 
 different matter).

 Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx 
 file format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using 
 mental ray, would there be any legal problem?  I think not.  Converting to 
 .mi2 for this purpose is no different.

 Matt




Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Jason S

Pssst!!  Redshift (!) ;)

On 10/23/14 11:52, Luc-Eric Rousseau wrote:

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote:

The reseller I talked with said I have unlimited render nodes for Max
and Backburner for Mental Ray and to just use that.  I don't know what
shaders can/can't be used for the renders this way from softimage.
I'm still green with all of this...but at this point at least I don't
have to buy more from Autodesk.

I don't think that this is true, that you can render mi2 files with
3dsmax/backburner with your suite standalone license.

In any case, with your softimage standalone license you have the
ability to run 4 satellite render nodes for free, so you should try
that first, see if it helps.

Since you're a hobbyist, I think you should also ask yourself what
makes your life difficult with rendering what's best to fix it.
Adding more MR render nodes for overnight rendering may not fix the
problem,  perhaps you should go with a modern GPU renderer or
something else.




Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Jason S

  
  
Actually, it seems that it doesn't work
  
  Based on this..
  
  ... 
However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of
this stuff


http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112id=17012833linkID=11937425


  
  

  

  Stephen Blair
 
  

  
  

  
 22/08/2012 
  

  


Other recipients: 
 ro...@casema.nl,
soft...@listproc.autodesk.com  


Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it
still won't work.

I've messed around with that stuff before.


AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg
2013 sends to 2013



  
  Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the
  same as what you suggested, 
  so maybe it could still work.
  
  
  And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even
  after saerching around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need
  same ver.)
  
  + also this from Mudbox Support
  You must have an equivalent version of the
  other Autodesk product for the Send to
  options to be available in the File
  menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 2012.) 
  
  http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012
  
  But thanks for that great secret! :)
  
  
  On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote:


  It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.
The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.
Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012

Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming



  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Jason S

  
  
But it would be great if the most
  important point be also be adressed,
  
          can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or
not you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent
existing- licences.
  
  
  IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
  non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to
  the latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same
  amount of existing licences. (-allowing- to
  -replace-/update to last one)  
  
  (Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead
  for such things...)
  
  
  On 10/22/14 20:27, Jason S wrote:


  
  Can't render Mi2's, 
Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, 
can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not
you're a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent
existing- licences.
can't not rent,
can't, can't...

You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.


On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote:
  
  
You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license.
  You'll need a mental ray standalone license.
  
  
  In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone
Softimage license to a Network license by paying the
difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network
license activation fee, and that is what the network license
activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license,
you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus
on getting the reseller to answer the question: can I
upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a network
license?
  
  
  
  
  
  


  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM,
Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:
Matt
  thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of
  the
  license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question
  whether this is
  legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with
  the software
  the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1
  Rendering."
  I'm no lawyer.
  
  But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to
  give me a
  conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't
  want my
  money.
  
  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com

  wrote:
   Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should
  remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use
  anything that is unique to softimage with regards to
  shaders), then render using your maya/max license.
  
   Matt
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
  [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
  On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
   Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
   To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
   Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?
  
   So I bought a Standalone license last year, before
  Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to
  figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014
  networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes.
  I found  FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my
  reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is
  what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014
  Softimage.
  
   I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses
  for Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a
  separate computer to help speed up total render time.
  
   Anyone have any ideas?
  
   Patrick N.
  
  

  
  

  
  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Jason S
Also for the 2015 to be somewhat more common than, or not exclusive to 
a bunch of subscribers.


Actually I wish you could just sell Softimage 2015 (+ SP's) as it is.
No support, .. and even if only available to Softimage users, say 
people on this list  + current SI-Community Users.

(If too afraid of making too many sales)

Why such tight limits?

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 16:53:38, Jason S wrote:


IMHO,  I think it would more than reasonable for (at least)
non-immediately migrating Softimage customers to have access to the
latest version,  to be able to purchase  (at least) the same amount of
existing licences. (-/allowing/- to -replace-/update to last one)

(Hoping there's even at-all an (internal) channel to request/plead for
such things...)



RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-23 Thread Hsiao Ming Chia
I should add that the steps described are not recommended and may not work as 
expected.
Modifying the ExecutablePath can redirect Send-To to launch a different 
version, but there is no guarantee that the rest of the Send-To process will 
function properly.
This is especially so if you attempt to Send-To from say 2015 to a much earlier 
version like 2013.

Thanks,
Hsiao Ming

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jason S
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 4:12 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Actually, it seems that it doesn't work

Based on this..
...
However, Autodesk has an article about how the configuration of this stuff

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112id=17012833linkID=11937425
Stephen Blair

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[  ]
22/08/2012

Other recipients: ro...@casema.nlmailto:ro...@casema.nl, 
soft...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
[  ]
Most likely all you will do is enable the menu command, and it still won't work.
I've messed around with that stuff before.

AFAIK, you need to have the same versions of each product eg 2013 sends to 2013

Unless it that link (now pointing to a general page) wasn't the same as what 
you suggested,
so maybe it could still work.


And if it does work, it could almost be a 'secret'! Cause even after saerching 
around, everyone seemed to be saying nope! need same ver.)

+ also this from Mudbox Support
You must have an equivalent version of the other Autodesk product for the Send 
to options to be available in the File menu (for example Maya 2012 with Mudbox 
2012.)
http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/mne-help/global/docs/mudbox2012/en_us/files/GUID-07F82D80-9F2F-4244-BE48-C7309179C22-56-htm.html?v=2012

But thanks for that great secret! :)


On 10/23/14 4:44, Hsiao Ming Chia wrote:

It is possible to use Send-To between different versions.

The link below is for Mudbox though it applies for other products as well.

Just look for the appropriate syncfg file inside the Synergy directory.

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/mudbox/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/The-Send-To-option-is-greyed-out.html?v=2012



Hope this helps.



Thanks,

Hsiao Ming

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Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Sebastien Sterling
I don't like your odds friend :(

On 22 October 2014 18:52, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was
 killed, and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a
 way I can upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR
 render nodes. I found  FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my
 reseller and another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I
 would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage.

 I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and
 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help
 speed up total render time.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Patrick N.



RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Matt Lind
Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage 
dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage with 
regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.

Matt



-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?

So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and 
recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 
2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found  
FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller do 
not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses for 
2014 Softimage.

I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to 
render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render 
time.

Anyone have any ideas?

Patrick N.



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Neese
Matt thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the
license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is
legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software
the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering.
I'm no lawyer.

But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a
conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my
money.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
 Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage 
 dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage 
 with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.

 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and 
 recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 
 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found  
 FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller 
 do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses 
 for 2014 Softimage.

 I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to 
 render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render 
 time.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Patrick N.




RE: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Matt Lind
Mental ray is a separate product with its own file format.  As long as there 
are no softimage specific dependencies (eg; shaders) in the .mi2 files you send 
to be rendered, you're not running afoul of any laws that I know of because at 
that point it's native mental ray data, not softimage data.  Besides, I've 
never heard of this being a problem in a legal sense even if there were 
softimage dependencies (on the technical side It would be a different matter).

Think of it this way, if you converted all your softimage scenes to .fbx file 
format, then imported those files to be rendered in max/maya using mental ray, 
would there be any legal problem?  I think not.  Converting to .mi2 for this 
purpose is no different.

Matt




-Original Message-
From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:12 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

Matt thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the license 
agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is legitimate because 
the MI2 would not have been made with the software the MR license is through 
(max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering.
I'm no lawyer.

But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a conclusive 
answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my money.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote:
 Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all softimage 
 dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to softimage 
 with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.

 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
 [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick 
 Neese
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed, and 
 recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 
 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found  
 FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and another reseller 
 do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get those 5 batch licenses 
 for 2014 Softimage.

 I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax to 
 render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total render 
 time.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Patrick N.





Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Stephen Blair
You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license. You'll need a mental ray
standalone license.

In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone Softimage license to a
Network license by paying the difference. IIRC, that difference was equal
to the network license activation fee, and that is what the network license
activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license, you'll get the
five batch licenses automatically, so focus on getting the reseller to
answer the question: can I upgrade my standalone Softimage license to a
network license?




On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Matt thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of the
 license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether this is
 legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the software
 the MR license is through (max and maya) Section 10.1.1 Rendering.
 I'm no lawyer.

 But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to give me a
 conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't want my
 money.

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com
 wrote:
  Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should remove all
 softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use anything that is unique to
 softimage with regards to shaders), then render using your maya/max license.
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
 softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
  Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
  To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
  Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?
 
  So I bought a Standalone license last year, before Softimage was killed,
 and recently I have been trying to figure out if there is a way I can
 upgrade to 2014 networked version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes.
 I found  FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and
 another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would need to get
 those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage.
 
  I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for Maya and 3dsmax
 to render a Softimage scene on a separate computer to help speed up total
 render time.
 
  Anyone have any ideas?
 
  Patrick N.
 




Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Jason S

  
  
Can't render Mi2's, 
  Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, 
  can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're
  a long time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing-
  licences.
  can't not rent,
  can't, can't...
  
  You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.
  
  
  On 10/22/14 18:07, Stephen Blair wrote:


  You can't render a .mi2 file with a Maya license.
You'll need a mental ray standalone license.


In the past, people could upgrade from a Standalone
  Softimage license to a Network license by paying the
  difference. IIRC, that difference was equal to the network
  license activation fee, and that is what the network license
  activation fee is for. If you get can get a network license,
  you'll get the five batch licenses automatically, so focus on
  getting the reseller to answer the question: can I upgrade my
  standalone Softimage license to a network license?






  
  
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:12 PM,
  Patrick Neese patrickne...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Matt
thanks.  I had this thought as well, but...the wording of
the
license agreement for 2014 leaves a little question whether
this is
legitimate because the MI2 would not have been made with the
software
the MR license is through (max and maya) Section "10.1.1
Rendering."
I'm no lawyer.

But trying to get someone at Autodesk and or a Reseller to
give me a
conclusive answer about the upgrade...it's like they don't
want my
money.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com
wrote:
 Export your scene as an .mi2 sequence as that should
remove all softimage dependencies (assuming you don't use
anything that is unique to softimage with regards to
shaders), then render using your maya/max license.

 Matt



 -Original Message-
 From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com]
On Behalf Of Patrick Neese
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:52 AM
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 Subject: Stand-Alone to Network license?

 So I bought a Standalone license last year, before
Softimage was killed, and recently I have been trying to
figure out if there is a way I can upgrade to 2014 networked
version so I can have a 5 batch MR render nodes. I found 
FEE06-797413-0101 but an Autodesk chat rep, my reseller and
another reseller do not seem to know if it is what I would
need to get those 5 batch licenses for 2014 Softimage.

 I really wish there was a way to use my MR licenses for
Maya and 3dsmax to render a Softimage scene on a separate
computer to help speed up total render time.

 Anyone have any ideas?

 Patrick N.


  


  


  



Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Ed Manning
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Can't render Mi2's,
 Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions,
 can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or not you're a long
 time user/customer looking to replace -recent existing- licences.
 can't not rent,
 can't, can't...

 You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's up to you.


At the point you're at, Patrick, I'd probably download a crack, get that
running, and publicly dare AD to come after me. It's not as if you didn't
try to play by the rules. It's not as if your use of a crack economically
hurts them, since using any other AD product isn't a viable option. They've
simply made it impossible for you to actually use a product you
legitimately bought.


Re: Stand-Alone to Network license?

2014-10-22 Thread Jason S

  
  
Sorry for the outburst, I sometimes
  find unfairness so unfair.
  
  On 10/22/14 21:09, Ed Manning wrote:


  

  On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:27 PM,
Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
Can't render Mi2's, 
  Can't 'SendTo' non-synched versions, 
  can't buy latest (or -last-) version of SI, weather or
  not you're a long time user/customer looking to
  replace -recent existing- licences.
  can't not rent,
  can't, can't...
  
  You CAN take it or leave it.. it's your choice, it's
  up to you.
  



At the point you're at, Patrick, I'd probably download
  a crack, get that running, and publicly dare AD to come
  after me. It's not as if you didn't try to play by the
  rules. It's not as if your use of a crack economically
  hurts them, since using any other AD product isn't a
  viable option. They've simply made it impossible for you
  to actually use a product you legitimately bought.