(Fwd) Accucraft Big Boy Q
This just in from Royce Brademen (Accucraft dealer): --- Forwarded message follows --- Vance, I could not get into the sslivesteam forum today to respond to the info on the big boy... please do so for me if you can. The big boy is ELECTRIC, not live steam. The US prices are around $4K depending if it has sound or not. --- End of forwarded message --- My bad. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft prototypes at Intl Toy Fair
Vance, The Accucraft model will probably be to little hands on. There is always something to do to Aster models that is if the wind doesn't blow the fire out! The Accucraft K-27 is almost boring, fire her up and let her run for the next 50 minutes. (almost like an electric model) The boiler on a Big Boy must be vast. Bert. - Bert & Edmunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Accucraft prototypes at Intl Toy Fair
Manfried Meliset, publisher of GartenBahn, sent a note with some photos of new items from the International Toy Fair in Nürnberg, Germany. He saw prototypes of Accucraft's live steam K-28 (I had heard this was coming, but hadn't seen details) and Big Boy(!). Maybe I saw the Big Boy before and immediately forgot it because it's out of my area of interest, but when I read the suggested price it stuck this time: would you believe 4850 Euro? (That's US$6300 at today's rate.) We just saw an unbuilt Aster Big Boy go for $17500 on eBay; this guy could have save 2/3 of that and a LOT of building time if he could have waited until next year... regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft SP )^) Colors
Pete, Actually it does. Cliff at Accucraft told me that the colors they were going to use came from a line of metal models that were being imported to the US. He thought they were HO but wasn't sure. Hard to believe a company selling $2,000 models not having any color pictures of the product line to offer theirr customers. Don From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sslivesteam@colegroup.com To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Accucraft SP )^) Colors Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:53:11 EST > I found the answer to my own quwstion. You can find the colors of the > various switchers at: _http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml_ (http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml) Er, Don... I hate to rain on your parade (and Trotfox's!) but that's an S-scale model. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with Accucraft. Pete
Re[2]: Accucraft SP )^) Colors
Hi Pete, I for one was pleased with the site because I did not realize that the S.P. had so many different paint schemes on the same engine I thought it was only B.R. who had licence to experimental colour schemes. I like the look of the engine and may some day be in a position to buy one. I think that if Accucraft offer the colours they will not be far removed from those of the "S" models and it was the colour that was in question -If I understood it correctly. I like the green one. It reminds me of the colour my wife changes to as we board an aircraft. Bert. - Bert & Edmunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Accucraft SP )^) Colors
> I found the answer to my own quwstion. You can find the colors of the > various switchers at: _http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml_ (http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml) Er, Don... I hate to rain on your parade (and Trotfox's!) but that's an S-scale model. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with Accucraft. Pete
Re: Accucraft SP )^) Colors
oOO I really like the dark blue one... Who wants to get me one for my Birthday? =D Trot, the silly, fox... On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:54:11 -0500, Don Plasterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found the answer to my own quwstion. You can find the colors of the > various switchers at: > http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml > > Don -- | /\_/\ TrotFox \ Always remember, | ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a | >\_/< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Accucraft SP )^) Colors
I found the answer to my own quwstion. You can find the colors of the various switchers at: http://www.cryergrayfoundry.com/main/locomotive_060_SP_models.shtml Don
Accucraft information
Can anyone help me with information on the Accucraft C-21 and Shay? I would like to know the boiler water volumes and center flue ID's one these engines. Regards, Harry Wade Nashville Tennessee
Re: Accucraft Daylight must be near!
Good thinking Jeff--Hope you can hang together fo the next 60 days!! Geoff I received a call this morning from the dealer with whom I've placed an >order for an Accucraft live steam Daylight. > >They wanted to know if I wanted flanged or blind center drivers and the >butane or alcohol fuel version. Minimum radius on the flanged drivers >is 8 feet. I went with the flanged and alchohol versions. > >The dealer said that Accucraft was starting production and that I should >expect my unit in 60 days. >
Accucraft Daylight must be near!
I received a call this morning from the dealer with whom I've placed an order for an Accucraft live steam Daylight. They wanted to know if I wanted flanged or blind center drivers and the butane or alcohol fuel version. Minimum radius on the flanged drivers is 8 feet. I went with the flanged and alchohol versions. The dealer said that Accucraft was starting production and that I should expect my unit in 60 days.
Re: Accucraft 1:32 freight car
Ohhh, I like! Any info on pricing? Is that correct - 6 car sets only, no singles?!? I am glad to see some more 1:32 cars showing up, it has been pretty slim pick'ens. A couple dozen of these would look nice behind the Mikado :-) Regards, PeteH > A webpage showing a really nice 1:32 refrigerator car showed up recently > on the Accucraft/AMS website. > > See > > http://www.amstrains.com/main1-32.htm > > Hopefully this implies that more 1:32 motive power from Accucraft is on > the way! > >
Accucraft 1:32 freight car
A webpage showing a really nice 1:32 refrigerator car showed up recently on the Accucraft/AMS website. See http://www.amstrains.com/main1-32.htm Hopefully this implies that more 1:32 motive power from Accucraft is on the way!
Does anyone have detailed pictures of the Accucraft electric Shay?
Or close-ups of the prototype? Thanks Chad
Re: Accucraft German website
On 12/11/03 10:44, "mdenning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like that LYN myself, > Looks like it would not take much effort to give it an American look. > Michael > Floriduh > USA > Iron Nut Original was built in the USA ;-) -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands & Western Railway Trematon Office Saltash Cornwall Directors: T. Gorton, Madame E. Lash
Accucraft Ruby Spare Parts
Dan, et al., Accucraft provided the following list of spare parts, and my scribbling on the page indicates that the list is from July 18, 2002. I was quite pleased with the service and turn-around time on my order for parts. AP:20301 Valve - Gas Ruby 1/pkg$8.99 AP:20302 Valve - Steam Ruby 1/pkg $14.99 AP:21101 Safety valve, 80/40psi 1/pkg $5.99 AP:21102 Safety valve, w/ adjustable release $9.99 AP:21151 Pressure Gauge, 80 psi $59.99 AP:21301 Burner (Ruby) $24.95 AP:21351 Jet Nozzle #3 $2.99 AP:21352 Jet Nozzle #4 $1.95 AP:21501 Cylinder set (Ruby) $49.50 AP:21502 Cylinder kit set (Ruby) $99.50 AP:21601 Lubricator (Displacement type) $9.99 AP:21701 Butane gas tank w/ filler valve $49.00 AP:21702 Butane gas filler valve, 1/pkg $4.99 AP:24131 Ruby piston replacement kit, 2/pkg $19.99 AP:24132 Ruby valve replacement kit, 2/pkg $9.99 AP:24133 Ruby valve block replacement kit $24.99 AP:25002 Hex screws, H2x2, 8/pkg $1.49 AP:25003 Hex screws, H2x3, 8/pkg $1.49 AP:25004 Hex screws, H2x4, 8/pkg $1.49 AP:25006 Hex screws, H2x6, 8/pkg $1.49 AP:25101 Set screws, M3x3, 8/pkg $1.99 AP:25102 Set screws, M3x6, 8/pkg $1.99 AP:25801 'O' ring, OD 3/8' [sic], 2/pkg $2.99 AP:25802 'O' ring, OD 3/8' [sic], Ruby oil lub, 4/pkg $1.99 AP:25803 'O' ring, Ruby filler valve, 2/pkg $0.99 AP:25804 'O' ring, Ruby butane valve 4/pkg $1.99 AP:25805 'O' ring, Ruby steam valve 4/pkg $1.99 AP:28201 Steam Oil, 6 oz. $4.25 AP:29101 Screw driver, hex head M2, 1/pkg$3.99 AP:29102 Screw driver, hex head M1.6 $4.99 AP:29201 Pump, Steam Oil Pump$14.99 AP:29202 Syringe 50 ml, water $1.99 AP:29203 Syringe 5 ml, oil$1.49 End of list from Accucraft. The contact telephone number that I have written on the sheet is 510-324-3399. On a related note, the St. Aubin advertisement in the December 2003 issue of _Garden Railways_ on unnumbered page 71 in the very bottom right-hand corner offers the Ruby 1 in "Build It Yourself" kit form for $279.89. Bob Blackson
Re: Re: Accucraft German website
Mike, You left off the best part though. Many of this type engine are still running and can be ridden behind in regular scheduled service. Bruce Gathman On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:58:35 -, "Mike Chaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Steve wrote:- > >> Mona is a 2-4-0 configuration, very english. > >That's right. Made in England by Beyer Peacock in 1874 for the Isle of Man >Railway (which is not in England.) > >See http://freespace.virgin.net/e.more/loco4-6.html > >Mike > > The links provided below are ways to donate to a cause or causes for free. www.bigcats.care2.com www.breastcancer.care2.com www.oceans.care2.com www.pets.care2.com www.primates.care2.com www.rainforest.care2.com www.theanimalrescuesite.com www.thebreastcancersite.com www.thechildhealthsite.com www.thehungersite.com www.therainforestsite.com
Re: Accucraft German website
Isn't the Raritan American? Also a 2-4-0 ? BocaMikey - Original Message - From: "Mike Chaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft German website > Steve wrote:- > > > Mona is a 2-4-0 configuration, very english. > > That's right. Made in England by Beyer Peacock in 1874 for the Isle of Man > Railway (which is not in England.) > > See http://freespace.virgin.net/e.more/loco4-6.html > > Mike > >
Re: Accucraft German website
I like that LYN myself, Looks like it would not take much effort to give it an American look. Michael Floriduh USA Iron Nut - Original Message - From: "Ciambrone, Steve @ OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:23 PM Subject: RE: Accucraft German website > Look under the News page. > > http://www.accucraft.de/News/news.html > > Mona is a 2-4-0 configuration, very english. > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > > From: The Sagers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:49 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > > Subject: Re: Accucraft German website > > > > Hey Steve, > > > > Read your post and was curious what "Mona" looked like. > > Searched all over the site but can't locate "Mona". > > Vic > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ciambrone, Steve @ OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:25 AM > > Subject: RE: Accucraft German website > > > > > > > WOW, I got to have one of those Mona engines, very Pretty. > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jeffrey Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:41 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > > > > Subject: Accucraft German website > > > > > > > > Check out > > > > > > > > http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > > > >
Re: Accucraft German website
Steve wrote:- > Mona is a 2-4-0 configuration, very english. That's right. Made in England by Beyer Peacock in 1874 for the Isle of Man Railway (which is not in England.) See http://freespace.virgin.net/e.more/loco4-6.html Mike
RE: Accucraft German website
Look under the News page. http://www.accucraft.de/News/news.html Mona is a 2-4-0 configuration, very english. Steve > -Original Message- > From: The Sagers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Re: Accucraft German website > > Hey Steve, > > Read your post and was curious what "Mona" looked like. > Searched all over the site but can't locate "Mona". > Vic > - Original Message - > From: "Ciambrone, Steve @ OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:25 AM > Subject: RE: Accucraft German website > > > > WOW, I got to have one of those Mona engines, very Pretty. > > > > Steve > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Jeffrey Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:41 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > > > Subject: Accucraft German website > > > > > > Check out > > > > > > http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > > > > > > Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives > not > > > shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28! > > > > > >
Re: Accucraft German website
Hey Steve, Read your post and was curious what "Mona" looked like. Searched all over the site but can't locate "Mona". Vic - Original Message - From: "Ciambrone, Steve @ OS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:25 AM Subject: RE: Accucraft German website > WOW, I got to have one of those Mona engines, very Pretty. > > Steve > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jeffrey Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:41 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > > Subject: Accucraft German website > > > > Check out > > > > http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > > > > Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives not > > shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28! > > >
RE: Accucraft German website
WOW, I got to have one of those Mona engines, very Pretty. Steve > -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey Williams [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:41 PM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Accucraft German website > > Check out > > http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > > Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives not > shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28! >
Re: Accucraft Spare Parts: Live Steam
Dan, Contact Cliff Luscher directly at Accucraft. He's been very responsive when I needed help. His telephone number is: 510-324-3399. If you send an email to Accucraft, put "Message for Cliff" in the subject line to be sure of reaching him. Jeff === Daniel McGrath wrote: Accucraft has some beautiful engines offered, it would be great if they could get their act together in regards to spare and replacement parts! I've been trying to get a complete parts list for the "Ruby", and as of yet, no joy. I've requested their Illustrated parts catalog, had their glossy engine and rolling stock sheets sent. Finally got a very incomplete list of snow plows, one fuel tank, "trim" pieces nothing as far as drivers, steam valves, pistons you know the things that wear out and may need to be replaced. At this point I am very surprised at how poor their customer service has been. Dan McGrath. >From: Jeffrey Williams >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam >Subject: Accucraft German website >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:41:03 -0800 > >Check out > >http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > >Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives >not shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28! > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! <http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2734??PS=>
Re: Accucraft Spare Parts: Live Steam
Accucraft has some beautiful engines offered, it would be great if they could get their act together in regards to spare and replacement parts! I've been trying to get a complete parts list for the "Ruby", and as of yet, no joy. I've requested their Illustrated parts catalog, had their glossy engine and rolling stock sheets sent. Finally got a very incomplete list of snow plows, one fuel tank, "trim" pieces nothing as far as drivers, steam valves, pistons you know the things that wear out and may need to be replaced. At this point I am very surprised at how poor their customer service has been. Dan McGrath. >From: Jeffrey Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Accucraft German website >Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 18:41:03 -0800 > >Check out > >http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html > >Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives >not shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28! > Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account is over limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage!
Accucraft German website
Check out http://www.accucraft.de/Produkte/produkte.html Not only does this website show several European-pattern locomotives not shown on the US website, but also lists a live steam K-28!
Re: Throttle travel on Accucraft Ida (or Ruby)?
John, The problem with these locos is a combination of small cylinder diameter, light locos and throttle needles that are too blunt. The only one you can control easily is the weight -- put some weights on the loco in inconspicuous places, or always run with a train. The next easiest is the throttle. What you want is to put a sharper point on it, so a turn of the throttle handle won't change the opening of the steam passage as much. If you have a lathe or a drill press, remove the needle by turning the handle counterclockwise several turns. Then, pull the needle out of the throttle body. Remove the handle and O-ring and chuck the needle into your lathe or drill press. Get a sharp (NEW!) file, arrange a steady rest for it, and hold both ends of it with both hands. With the needle spinning in the chuck, carefully touch the file to the tip and work the point into a somewhat sharper shape. When it's shaped, squeeze some 400- or 600-grit sandpaper on the tip, followed by steel wool to polish the surface. This has helped me on a Mamod and a Ruby, and it's a tried and true old remedy for runaway steamers. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
RE: Accucraft K-27
Jeff, Already read the review. Great job! Very accurate analysis. I have seen 463 and 464 many times, just none of the others and no 453 anywhere! Chuck Walters Twin Lakes Railway http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeffrey Williams Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Accucraft K-27 Chuck, I have a green #461. It will be featured in a review in the soon-to-be-delivered Steam in the Garden. You can see photos of it by Mike Martin at: http://www.panyo.com/dan2/ My K-27 is on photos # 1, 7, 10, 12, 13 In addition, I will send you photos by off-line email I am very pleased with this loco - looks great and runs great. Not a loco for a beginner, though - a few teething problems at first but eventually can be wrung out. Needs a lot of clearance to the scenery, though! Jeff Williams == Chuck Walters wrote: > Does anyone have pictures of the K-27 in the 453 or the 461 in green paint > schemes posted someplace? I would love to take a look at each before I > order. > > Chuck Walters > Twin Lakes Railway > http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw > > >
Re: Accucraft K-27
Chuck, I have a green #461. It will be featured in a review in the soon-to-be-delivered Steam in the Garden. You can see photos of it by Mike Martin at: http://www.panyo.com/dan2/ My K-27 is on photos # 1, 7, 10, 12, 13 In addition, I will send you photos by off-line email I am very pleased with this loco - looks great and runs great. Not a loco for a beginner, though - a few teething problems at first but eventually can be wrung out. Needs a lot of clearance to the scenery, though! Jeff Williams == Chuck Walters wrote: Does anyone have pictures of the K-27 in the 453 or the 461 in green paint schemes posted someplace? I would love to take a look at each before I order. Chuck Walters Twin Lakes Railway http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
RE: Throttle travel on Accucraft Ida (or Ruby)?
Nice R/C install. What's the name of the glue that you used? Chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John A. McNeil Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 4:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Throttle travel on Accucraft Ida (or Ruby)? Hi all, I am new to the list. By way of introduction, I have an Accucraft Ida which I have fired twice. The 1st time it ran great, but fell off the kid's LGB track going too fast around a curve (no damage). I just added RC so I can run it on the San Diego Garden Railway Society's track at the Walter Anderson nursery. I have also built a Hartford Products 4 wheel flatcar and a derrick car. I have a caboose with really cool Carter Bros. swing motion trucks under construction. You can see pictures here: http://www.xardas.com/ Now to the question: The 2nd run of Ida was with RC. With the throttle open just a tiny bit, the only way to control the speed was with the Johnson bar. Is this normal? What is the total throttle travel I should set up (measured as degrees or distance moved by the end of the arm would be fine)? Thanks, John
Throttle travel on Accucraft Ida (or Ruby)?
Hi all, I am new to the list. By way of introduction, I have an Accucraft Ida which I have fired twice. The 1st time it ran great, but fell off the kid's LGB track going too fast around a curve (no damage). I just added RC so I can run it on the San Diego Garden Railway Society's track at the Walter Anderson nursery. I have also built a Hartford Products 4 wheel flatcar and a derrick car. I have a caboose with really cool Carter Bros. swing motion trucks under construction. You can see pictures here: http://www.xardas.com/ Now to the question: The 2nd run of Ida was with RC. With the throttle open just a tiny bit, the only way to control the speed was with the Johnson bar. Is this normal? What is the total throttle travel I should set up (measured as degrees or distance moved by the end of the arm would be fine)? Thanks, John
Accucraft K-27
Does anyone have pictures of the K-27 in the 453 or the 461 in green paint schemes posted someplace? I would love to take a look at each before I order. Chuck Walters Twin Lakes Railway http://home.twcny.rr.com/twinlakesrw
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Thanks, Tom. I'll steam it this weekend and see if it runs as good as it looks. Weather permitting. ttfn Brian > Lovely model engine, there. As to your queries: Baldwin used crimson lake > for a cab color. All the D&RG C-16 photos I have seen have sand pipes. If > it looks like RGS No. 9 then that is good as both were Baldwin C-16s. It > is perfectly stock, as far as I can see, and a good model of a c-16, too. > I'd be proud of it. > > Tom Leaton
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Thanks for the reply, Vance. And I'm familiar with your product line. I did such a great job with your pilot for my Ida that I thought the cab would be a cinch. Suffice to say I need some more woodworking practice before I try it on the C-16. ttfn Brian > What you have is the original, as-built version of the C-16, > characterized by the fluted domes, diamond stack, drop-shadow > lettering on the tender, long pilot, etc. It looks dead stock to me. Mess > with it only if you must. There's a photo of mine, for comparison, on > my web site's main page. > > (Hint: If you do feel the need to mess with it, I make laser-cut > replacement cab and pilot kits for it. See link.) > > best regards, > -Vance-
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Vance- What you say sounds right. I have compared a photo of the accucraft loco in RGS paint with one in the red cab version. There seems to be a difference. I think it is an illusion caused by the colors and camera angles. The black RGS engine deceptively looks like it has a bigger tender and boiler. I attribute this to a) a different camera perspective and lens length, and b) the metallic paint on the boiler makes it look just a little smaller. That is my guess. ( I like both ) Tom _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
> Baldwin used crimson lake for a cab color. But not until some years after the 42 was built, and only if the tender was painted lake, too. Lake was more of a brown with slightly maroon tint, rather than the somewhat lurid maroon on the Accucraft cab. So, the cab should be black to match the tender, per Baldwin practice, but if you want lake you should mix one part Tuscan red to two parts black. This is all from Jim Willke, a historian who specializes in reconstructing the paint schemes of 19th century locomotives. (He did the color schemes on the locos at Promontory Point National Historical Monument, as well as much work at the Calif. State RR Museum.) -vance- "Nothing is itself without everything else." -- Brian Swimme & Thomas Berry
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Brian== Lovely model engine, there. As to your queries: Baldwin used crimson lake for a cab color. All the D&RG C-16 photos I have seen have sand pipes. If it looks like RGS No. 9 then that is good as both were Baldwin C-16s. It is perfectly stock, as far as I can see, and a good model of a c-16, too. I'd be proud of it. Tom Leaton _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Is that Vance Bass saying "mess with it only if you must?" You're not turning into a collector, are you??? (Must be the heat...) Certainly, there is an implied appreciation of history, but if it's not what you want, change it. I've got two locomotives that if left untouched would have "collector" value, but they weren't what I wanted. Now, they are. Will they make me rich when I go to sell them? No. However, since I put the time to make them what I want, I have no incentive to sell them. They're worth far more to me now than they ever would be as a "collector's piece." The live steam hobby is perhaps at its most creative point ever on this side of the pond. No more are people just running what is commercially available. Modifications run the gamut from a simple coat of paint all the way to tearing everything apart and rebuilding it in a different form, if not completely scratchbuilding it. What's more, the price of the locomotive is having less and less of an effect on the amount of modifications. Granted, no one's tearing apart an Aster Big Boy...yet... but we are seeing some of the "cheaper" $3,000 asters being modified and kitbashed. Moral of this missive, don't be afraid to take what you have and make it what you want. There's enough experience on this list to get you over any hump you may encounter along the way. Later, K
Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Brian, What you have is the original, as-built version of the C-16, characterized by the fluted domes, diamond stack, drop-shadow lettering on the tender, long pilot, etc. It looks dead stock to me. Mess with it only if you must. There's a photo of mine, for comparison, on my web site's main page. (Hint: If you do feel the need to mess with it, I make laser-cut replacement cab and pilot kits for it. See link.) best regards, -Vance- Vance Bass FH&PB Railroad Supply Co. 6933 Cherry Hills Loop NE Albuquerque, NM 87111 USA http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass/fhpb/
Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?
Hello fellow listers. I've been lurking on this group for about a year now and have learned many things. Mostly that there's a lot to learn. I'm exiting lurk mode with an announcement and a question. Firstly, the Copperhead & Prickly Pear RR is a reality. (It was going to be the Copper Ridge & Prickly Pear RR but the acronym didn't look good.) I've just finished laying the last piece of track and will post pics on my website on Sunday. For anyone interested. Secondly, like the subject line says, I just got an Accucraft live steam D&RGW C-16 through an online supplier and it doesn't look right. To me, that is. If anyone here would care to drop by http://home.cogeco.ca/~scott3013/ and let me know what this is I would rest easier. TIA and I'll be steaming soon. Brian Scott
Re: Lights on accucraft Mich cal Shay
If/when you find out Paul please let me know. I have the Open cab version that I've changed the water input and safety valve plus R/C'd. 73, John de VK2XGJ General Manager Elk River & Cheat Mountain Railroad - Original Message - From: "paul gamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 3:10 PM Subject: Lights on accucraft Mich cal Shay > Does or has anyone taken the head light or Rear light apart > in the Mich cal shay . I want to install battery powered lights But I am > not sure how they come apart. > > Paul Gamlin > > >
Lights on accucraft Mich cal Shay
Does or has anyone taken the head light or Rear light apart in the Mich cal shay . I want to install battery powered lights But I am not sure how they come apart. Paul Gamlin
Accucraft website updated
Accucraft recently updated its website, finally showing the live steam K-27 and C-21 as well as photos of the SP Daylight cars
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
Jeff R: I don't know the answer to that. They send the buyer his serial number shortly after one puts down the 10% deposit. Doesn't make sense that they would plan in advance to build 100 each of all five versions, since they don't know in advance which versions will be most popular. Supposedly, they are built to order, implying 100 total build. jeff W. = Jeff Runge wrote: > > Jeff W., 100 units, that is a small run, do you think that includes all the > different versions? > Jeff in NC >
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
Jeff W., 100 units, that is a small run, do you think that includes all the different versions? Jeff in NC
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
The serial number plate on my K-27 says that it's 44/100. That's a small production run, even by Aster standards Jeff Runge wrote: > > One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative shot > time,with one exception, the C&S mogul, This was narrow gauge & gas fired. > Pruduced in 1991 with a total production of 480 units, and they are still > avalible new from aster dealers. Thats a very slow mover! It was 11 years > before offering another gas fired engine, and it is the JNR B20 an 0-4-0 > offered in 2002 ith a total production of 200 units. Aster has produced > almost 60 different engines, many were offered in 2,3 different versions. > i.e.: USRA Mikado ,black or green, : Jumbo,in LNWR black,LMS red, LMS black. > That is to say Accucraft would count all K- 27 as One and all C-16 as One . > I have never heard any production numbers for Accucraft or Round House, is > this information available? I would think Accucraft would have to have good > production numbers to support their low prices. > Thanks > Jeff in NC >
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
Ya know... that's an angle I hadn't thought of! Makes going bald not so
bad. ;]
Now if only it wasn't all leaving so slowly (going thin all over the top
but not truly bald.)
Isn't 25 too young for serious hair loss? {:]
Trot, the hormone-effected, fox...
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, FBM Studios wrote:
> I would agree - however I keep track of all the hair salon tallies, and
> since
> I buzz what's left of my hair once a week myself I only see it fair
> that I spend the equivalent on an item of my choice. :-)
> Viva la hairloss:-)
> Cheers Ferdinand
/\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember,
( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a
>\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
I would agree - however I keep track of all the hair salon tallies, and since I buzz what's left of my hair once a week myself I only see it fair that I spend the equivalent on an item of my choice. :-) Viva la hairloss:-) Cheers Ferdinand On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 01:11 PM, TrotFox Greyfoot wrote: That's about $5! No, I didn't leave out any 0's... };] Trot, the budgeted, fox... On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Harry Wade wrote: They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse. :-) Regards, Harry /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a \./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
At 12:07 PM 3/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative short >time, with one exception, the C&S mogul, This was narrow gauge & gas fired. Jeff, That wasn't always the case, and IMHO gauge and fuel rarely have anything to do with it. The Schools for instance took forever to sell because early in their history Aster grossly overestimated the potential market for such a model. It took years, and becomming known as a bulletproof runner, for it to finally sell out. In the US, when Ga1 was still just a curiosity, if you were far enought ahead of the curve you could get a steal of a deal from hobby shops anxious to unload them. To a somewhat lesser extent I think the Pannier was another example. They sold OK, but didn't go all that quickly, until they became known as good reliable runners. But those were international market items. The C&S Mogul by all indications should have sold out in a flash - good looking, well built, well detailed, and a natural for the US Ga1 market. It had everything going for it, but you know how people will talk, and what they were saying was It won't run - it's my $3.5K bookend. A few had success, but most didn't. What this says to me is that first consideration for almost everyone is consistant running and size, gauge, scale, fuel, and to some extent even appearance aren't as important as whether it runs well. Regards, Harry
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
That's about $5! No, I didn't leave out any 0's... };] Trot, the budgeted, fox... On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Harry Wade wrote: > They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite > locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum > quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can > successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse. :-) > > Regards, > Harry /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
At 12:10 PM 3/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >Great answer Harry! Callin' em as I see'um Jeff.
RE: Accucraft and Aster surveys
Harry, Where can I get one and when. I want to give someone a deposit ;-) Ken > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Harry Wade > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:01 AM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys > > > At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote: > >What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to > induce you to buy one of their products? > > They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite > locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum > quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can > successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse. :-) > > Regards, > Harry > >
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
Great answer Harry! - Original Message - From: "Harry Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys > At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote: > >What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to > induce you to buy one of their products? > > They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite > locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum > quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can > successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse. :-) > > Regards, > Harry >
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative shot time,with one exception, the C&S mogul, This was narrow gauge & gas fired. Pruduced in 1991 with a total production of 480 units, and they are still avalible new from aster dealers. Thats a very slow mover! It was 11 years before offering another gas fired engine, and it is the JNR B20 an 0-4-0 offered in 2002 ith a total production of 200 units. Aster has produced almost 60 different engines, many were offered in 2,3 different versions. i.e.: USRA Mikado ,black or green, : Jumbo,in LNWR black,LMS red, LMS black. That is to say Accucraft would count all K- 27 as One and all C-16 as One . I have never heard any production numbers for Accucraft or Round House, is this information available? I would think Accucraft would have to have good production numbers to support their low prices. Thanks Jeff in NC
Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote: >What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to induce you to buy one of their products? They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse. :-) Regards, Harry
Accucraft and Aster surveys
Whenever you buy an Accucraft product, they include a survey card which asks three questions: 1. What new products or accessories would you like to see? 2. What do you like most about models from Accucraft Trains? 3. What improvements do you recommend for future products? As with the Aster survey, Accucraft is surveying people who have chosen an Accucraft product already. Of course one has to actually fill out the card and spend the cost of a stamp to get their opinion known. Neither survey is likely to answer the question: What different products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to induce you to buy one of their products?
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
> Is butane or alcohol more readily available world wide? Definitely alcohol! And, should commercial supplies get scarce, you can make your own, which you definitely cannot say about butane. A butane-fired loco is similar to your current automobile (if you're an average citizen). It's highly dependent on a technological infrastructure that you have no influence over and whose technology you have no access to. If Chrysler goes under and the fuel injection control module in your new PT Cruiser goes bad, you're screwed. But I still see Studebakers and Ramblers trundling around the streets of Albuquerque (original owner!). The infrastructure required to keep them running is much less specialized and lower-tech than the newer cars, and the same can be said of the alcohol/butane debate, I fear. Still, all but one of our locos here on the FH&PB are butane-fired, and I trust that I'd be able to rig something up to fire them if butane became unavailable. Maybe even a new alcohol-fired boiler, the equivalent of putting a carbureted Studebaker engine into your ailing Cruiser! So, I'm not too worried. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Gary, With a little looking,I think you can find butane or alcohol almost anywhere. BTW I like your web site, always makes me smile, the audio is great! Jeff in NC - Original Message - From: "Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! > Is butane or alcohol more readily available world wide? > Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon > http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy > http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor > > - Original Message - > From: Vance Bass > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:13 PM > Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! > > > It certainly makes sense that it would be Aster. Their past products > have been more aligned with the UK/European tastes than American. > And, given that so many of their previous locos have been alcohol > fired, it also makes sense that the people responding to an Aster > survey (i.e., current Aster owners, I suspect) would prefer what Aster > has already made. It would be really interesting to see the same > survey conducted by Roundhouse or Accucraft. > > regards, > -vance- > > Vance Bass > Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA > Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass > >
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Is butane or alcohol more readily available world wide? Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor - Original Message - From: Vance Bass To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! It certainly makes sense that it would be Aster. Their past products have been more aligned with the UK/European tastes than American. And, given that so many of their previous locos have been alcohol fired, it also makes sense that the people responding to an Aster survey (i.e., current Aster owners, I suspect) would prefer what Aster has already made. It would be really interesting to see the same survey conducted by Roundhouse or Accucraft. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
I don't see any reason why a "limited sampling" of all listers wouldn't be of great interest to manufacturers. And to the listers. I, for one, would like to see a survey such as Mr Pitts suggested, even knowing that the universe is constrained by those with internet access (or, more accurately, members of this list). Just my 2¢. royce in SB Jeff Runge wrote: Vance, In a recent conversation with Jim Pitts, he talked about doing a survey to see "Who" is in this hobby, and collect information like: age, background,education,where do you live, how many engines, what kind, ect,ect. some information may be sensitive like "income" so one would need to be discreet or anonymous. This survey would cover everyone willing to respond. He is not sure how to reach everyone? not everyone has internet access, and the closest thing to a mailing list would come from DH and local clubs. not very cost effective. The down side of doing this survey is it may scare away the manufactures.( given the average age one would expect) hehe. Jeff in NC - Original Message - From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! It certainly makes sense that it would be Aster. Their past products have been more aligned with the UK/European tastes than American. And, given that so many of their previous locos have been alcohol fired, it also makes sense that the people responding to an Aster survey (i.e., current Aster owners, I suspect) would prefer what Aster has already made. It would be really interesting to see the same survey conducted by Roundhouse or Accucraft. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Vance, In a recent conversation with Jim Pitts, he talked about doing a survey to see "Who" is in this hobby, and collect information like: age, background,education,where do you live, how many engines, what kind, ect,ect. some information may be sensitive like "income" so one would need to be discreet or anonymous. This survey would cover everyone willing to respond. He is not sure how to reach everyone? not everyone has internet access, and the closest thing to a mailing list would come from DH and local clubs. not very cost effective. The down side of doing this survey is it may scare away the manufactures.( given the average age one would expect) hehe. Jeff in NC - Original Message - From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 5:13 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! > It certainly makes sense that it would be Aster. Their past products > have been more aligned with the UK/European tastes than American. > And, given that so many of their previous locos have been alcohol > fired, it also makes sense that the people responding to an Aster > survey (i.e., current Aster owners, I suspect) would prefer what Aster > has already made. It would be really interesting to see the same > survey conducted by Roundhouse or Accucraft. > > regards, > -vance- > > Vance Bass > Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA > Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass >
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
It certainly makes sense that it would be Aster. Their past products have been more aligned with the UK/European tastes than American. And, given that so many of their previous locos have been alcohol fired, it also makes sense that the people responding to an Aster survey (i.e., current Aster owners, I suspect) would prefer what Aster has already made. It would be really interesting to see the same survey conducted by Roundhouse or Accucraft. regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
The survey was taken by Aster, It was almost a year ago, they wanted input on what we wanted to see next in a U.S./ North American outline engine, and what type of fuel, I don't remember what other questions. However the results showed almost as many different engines an there were responses to the survey. But the one thing that was VERY conclusive was the preference for spirit firing. I have owned gas fired engines and I never had any of the problems I read about, other then the cold weather.( It was a Frank S, which I ran in the snow with RC, when finished the fuel tank would be empty and covered with ice!) However I much prefer spirit fired engines, as do many others in this hobby. Aster it appears is aware of this, looking at all recent offerings. I hope Accucraft gives it a try. Jeff in NC
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Bob: Aster Bigboy is coal/gas fired, Allegheny is alchy/coal, other engines are mixed fuel types as well. Jim
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
In a message dated 3/15/03 11:22:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << maybe they could do dual fuel, maybe gas/coal... >> I would sure be interested in where that survey came from!? I think that it would be rather difficult to coal fire a gas flue tubed boiler. You do sort of need a firebox for coal! Best you could do would be a radiant heater that could be exchanged for grates. Bob
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
> In a recent survey almost 80% of current steamers prefer > spirit fireing over gas. Jeff, that's a very interesting statistic! I'm curious who conducted the survey, who responded, etc. Although alcohol is the traditional fuel in the UK, all the currently available locos from Roundhouse and Accucraft (the Ford and GM of the industry) run on gas. So I wonder, who's buying these things, the best-sellers for the general public, and who's answering the survey? regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Where was this survey at? Who was surveyed? Where is it reported? Mike Eorgoff - Original Message - From: "Jeff Runge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:17 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real! > Have they determined fuel type yet? In a recent survey almost 80% of current > steamers prefer spirit fireing over gas. If they feel the need to offer gas > for the "newbees," maybe they could do dual fuel, maybe gas/coal... > > Jeff in NC > >
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Have they determined fuel type yet? In a recent survey almost 80% of current steamers prefer spirit fireing over gas. If they feel the need to offer gas for the "newbees," maybe they could do dual fuel, maybe gas/coal... Jeff in NC
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
My only gripe is the price. But, considering the amount of work to make one, which one of us would make them for that amount of money and still feed his family? Perhaps we "not so rich" live steamers need to consider buying trains like some plane owners do, as a consortium or small group who pool their money and schedule time to play with their expensive toy. Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor Really exciting Jeff! I saw the sparkie version at The Train Shop Yesterday. Looks nice. I really have to convince Bing, Charlie and Cliff to start thinking hard about a live steam version of their West Side Heisler!! I would love one of those. Can't wait to see that Daylight in action. Eric Maschwitz www.grabiron.com On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 07:06 PM, Jeffrey Williams wrote: > Over the past year, there's been a lot of tantalizing hints about a > live > steam SP Daylight GS-4 from Accucraft. St. Aubin Station started > taking > deposits on this loco nine months ago. Being one of the world's > greatest optimists, I plunked down my deposit. Now I've got some > confidence that I will eventually see that loco. Here's today's > response from Cliff Luscher from Accucraft as an addendum to a question > about my K-27: > > > > Dear Jeff, > > I am glad that your problem is solved for the K-27 live steam loco. > Bing, the owner of the company, told me this morning that we will have > GS-4 live steam in approximately a year. It is the next locomotive to > be engineered into a live steam locomotive after our C-21 comes out > this > summer. The Daylight Passenger Cars are due out soon. Please let me > know if you have any questions. > > > Thank you for your inquiry. > > > Cliff > Accucraft Trains > > > == > > OhBoyOhBoyOhBoy!!! >
Re: Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Really exciting Jeff! I saw the sparkie version at The Train Shop Yesterday. Looks nice. I really have to convince Bing, Charlie and Cliff to start thinking hard about a live steam version of their West Side Heisler!! I would love one of those. Can't wait to see that Daylight in action. Eric Maschwitz www.grabiron.com On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 07:06 PM, Jeffrey Williams wrote: Over the past year, there's been a lot of tantalizing hints about a live steam SP Daylight GS-4 from Accucraft. St. Aubin Station started taking deposits on this loco nine months ago. Being one of the world's greatest optimists, I plunked down my deposit. Now I've got some confidence that I will eventually see that loco. Here's today's response from Cliff Luscher from Accucraft as an addendum to a question about my K-27: Dear Jeff, I am glad that your problem is solved for the K-27 live steam loco. Bing, the owner of the company, told me this morning that we will have GS-4 live steam in approximately a year. It is the next locomotive to be engineered into a live steam locomotive after our C-21 comes out this summer. The Daylight Passenger Cars are due out soon. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your inquiry. Cliff Accucraft Trains == OhBoyOhBoyOhBoy!!!
Accucraft live steam Daylight GS-4: It's for real!
Over the past year, there's been a lot of tantalizing hints about a live steam SP Daylight GS-4 from Accucraft. St. Aubin Station started taking deposits on this loco nine months ago. Being one of the world's greatest optimists, I plunked down my deposit. Now I've got some confidence that I will eventually see that loco. Here's today's response from Cliff Luscher from Accucraft as an addendum to a question about my K-27: Dear Jeff, I am glad that your problem is solved for the K-27 live steam loco. Bing, the owner of the company, told me this morning that we will have GS-4 live steam in approximately a year. It is the next locomotive to be engineered into a live steam locomotive after our C-21 comes out this summer. The Daylight Passenger Cars are due out soon. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you for your inquiry. Cliff Accucraft Trains == OhBoyOhBoyOhBoy!!!
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
I have enjoyed the banter on the size of the K-27. I thought (maybe, maybe not) you might enjoy a similar problem the museum I am part of has with a full size 3' gauge outside frame 2-8-0 (1912 Baldwin, 70 tons) which ran at the Quincy and Torch Lake RR up in Michigan as #6. You may see it designated as a K-25. We generally run a 47 ton 2-6-2 and an assortment of diesels ranging up to 55 tons. Carry about 50,000 people per year. Anyway, when we need to move the Quincy engine, which is not yet restored, it is a major project. The cab just squeezes through our car barn and requires a track bar to pry the cab over an inch or so to clear the door, the counter weights hit the ballast in several areas of our yard trackage, and our boarding platform must be moved to clear the cylinders in the station area. I have heard stories that this engine would derail itself in snow and ice conditions when the counter balances come down, hit the ice, and lift itself up off the rails. The same problems seem to exist in the 12" :1' world as it does in the smaller scales. BTW, restoration of this engine should begin this year in an effort to return it to operation. We are currently completing a full rebuild on a 1912 Porter mogul. The web site is being updated, but if interested its at www.njmt.org. We should have an area devoted to the many NJMT locomotives soon. If anyone wants a tour, let me know. J.R. - Original Message - From: Anthony Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Size of Accucraft K-27? > Hi Dave, > While Jeff was running his K27 on his small radius test track at home > last week, we noticed that the center mounted coupling was actually > positioned over the outside rail while running the curve. Making the > effective width of the engine an additional 1" wider on the curves. So > although 5.75" wide in static mode, it becomes 6.75" wide when running the > outside curves. I suggest the cab, particularly the outside roof line, > steps out even further, but we did not check that. Jeff also had to move > some of Dan Lieberwitz' model village real estate while running last Saturday. > No matter the track size, someone always shows up with a larger > engine!. As you are finding out already. > Regards, > Tony D. > > > At 08:55 AM 2/18/03 -0800, Dave Cole wrote: > >jeff: > > > >when harlan barr had his k-27 over here, the first thing he did was to run > >the tender around the track by hand, saying that it was the tender that > >had torn into elements of his heavily scenicked indoor layout. perhaps > >that's a dimension that daniel would like as well ... > > > >\dmc > > > > > >At 8:04 PM -0800 2/17/03, Jeffrey Williams wrote: > >>Mine (#461) is 5.75" wide over the cylinders as well as the width of the > >>pilot beam. The shades on the cab are a bit wider at just a hair under > >>6". The stack is the tallest piece at 7.875". It's possible that other > >>road numbers vary from this, since the cylinders are different on the > >>other road numbers. > >> > >>Accucraft claims 30" minimum radius. I've run mine on 48" radius and it > >>works fine. The two center driving axles have blind flange drivers. > >>The tender drawbar has alternate holes for the connection to spread the > >>distance between loco and tender on tight radii. > >> > >>See > >> > >>http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm > >> > >>for their web page on the K-27 live steam. It's not linked to any of > >>their other pages > >> > >>=== > >> > >> > >>"Daniel R. Fuller" wrote: > >>> > >>> I am building a track and due to space limitations, I have a > >>> clearance problem. I need to know the size of the Accucraft K-27. > >>> I saw them at Diamondhead and they are huge. Real railroads had to > >>> limit engines on certain tracks, and I may need to do the same. I > >>> think that the C-16 will be ok. > >>> > >>> What is the size of the "loading gauge" for the K-27? Just overall > >>> height above the rails and the total width is all I need. > >>> > >>> What is the minimum radius for the K-27? > >>> > >>> Dan Fuller > >>> Carrollton, Texas > > > > > >-- > >^^^ > >Dave Cole > >Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. > > Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 17-20, 2003 > >For more information, visit the web site at <http://www.summersteamup.com> > > > >^^^ > > >
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
Hi Dave, While Jeff was running his K27 on his small radius test track at home last week, we noticed that the center mounted coupling was actually positioned over the outside rail while running the curve. Making the effective width of the engine an additional 1" wider on the curves. So although 5.75" wide in static mode, it becomes 6.75" wide when running the outside curves. I suggest the cab, particularly the outside roof line, steps out even further, but we did not check that. Jeff also had to move some of Dan Lieberwitz' model village real estate while running last Saturday. No matter the track size, someone always shows up with a larger engine!. As you are finding out already. Regards, Tony D. At 08:55 AM 2/18/03 -0800, Dave Cole wrote: jeff: when harlan barr had his k-27 over here, the first thing he did was to run the tender around the track by hand, saying that it was the tender that had torn into elements of his heavily scenicked indoor layout. perhaps that's a dimension that daniel would like as well ... \dmc At 8:04 PM -0800 2/17/03, Jeffrey Williams wrote: Mine (#461) is 5.75" wide over the cylinders as well as the width of the pilot beam. The shades on the cab are a bit wider at just a hair under 6". The stack is the tallest piece at 7.875". It's possible that other road numbers vary from this, since the cylinders are different on the other road numbers. Accucraft claims 30" minimum radius. I've run mine on 48" radius and it works fine. The two center driving axles have blind flange drivers. The tender drawbar has alternate holes for the connection to spread the distance between loco and tender on tight radii. See http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm for their web page on the K-27 live steam. It's not linked to any of their other pages === "Daniel R. Fuller" wrote: I am building a track and due to space limitations, I have a clearance problem. I need to know the size of the Accucraft K-27. I saw them at Diamondhead and they are huge. Real railroads had to limit engines on certain tracks, and I may need to do the same. I think that the C-16 will be ok. What is the size of the "loading gauge" for the K-27? Just overall height above the rails and the total width is all I need. What is the minimum radius for the K-27? Dan Fuller Carrollton, Texas -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 17-20, 2003 For more information, visit the web site at <http://www.summersteamup.com> ^^^
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
Ah, dual power systems. It's not unlike the Toyota Prius and Honda Insight hybrid vehicles... :-) Mike
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
I am impressed! This K-27 has operating pressures of 50-60 psi AND has "Pittman gearhead motor powers the eight drivers through the steel bevel gears enclosed in a metal gear box." Amazing no? Perhaps they have not yet linked this page because it has errors? Gary - Ted and I steamed his 7/8' Saddle Tank 0-6-0 RoundHouse Porter and my Aster Alisan shay for 3.5 hours this afternoon. Very nice way to spend an afternoon running over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor Gary, I don't have a clue why Accucraft is still not advertising the K-27. There is a web page on the K-27 live steam located at; http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm It is interesting there is still no link to this page on their site. Perhaps they are trying reverse logic thinking more mistery will increase demand. You can order direct or through a limited number of dealers for the same price of $3,995.00 Accucraft is not allowing dealers to discount. Great engine but it is big. Regards Tom Burns Sugar Land, TX RGS in Live Steam
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
Isn't that now illegal? I thought they had to advertise it as "Fair Traded" Keep your steam up! Walt
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
Gary, I don't have a clue why Accucraft is still not advertising the K-27. There is a web page on the K-27 live steam located at; http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm It is interesting there is still no link to this page on their site. Perhaps they are trying reverse logic thinking more mistery will increase demand. You can order direct or through a limited number of dealers for the same price of $3,995.00 Accucraft is not allowing dealers to discount. Great engine but it is big. Regards Tom Burns Sugar Land, TX RGS in Live Steam
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
OK, What am I missing? I look on Accucraft's website and do not find a K-27 live steamer. Where are people buying these? Gary - Running trains over Terror Trestle in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor when harlan barr had his k-27 over here, the first thing he did was to run the tender around the track by hand, saying that it was the tender that had torn into elements of his heavily scenicked indoor layout. perhaps that's a dimension that daniel would like as well ...
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
jeff: when harlan barr had his k-27 over here, the first thing he did was to run the tender around the track by hand, saying that it was the tender that had torn into elements of his heavily scenicked indoor layout. perhaps that's a dimension that daniel would like as well ... \dmc At 8:04 PM -0800 2/17/03, Jeffrey Williams wrote: Mine (#461) is 5.75" wide over the cylinders as well as the width of the pilot beam. The shades on the cab are a bit wider at just a hair under 6". The stack is the tallest piece at 7.875". It's possible that other road numbers vary from this, since the cylinders are different on the other road numbers. Accucraft claims 30" minimum radius. I've run mine on 48" radius and it works fine. The two center driving axles have blind flange drivers. The tender drawbar has alternate holes for the connection to spread the distance between loco and tender on tight radii. See http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm for their web page on the K-27 live steam. It's not linked to any of their other pages === "Daniel R. Fuller" wrote: I am building a track and due to space limitations, I have a clearance problem. I need to know the size of the Accucraft K-27. I saw them at Diamondhead and they are huge. Real railroads had to limit engines on certain tracks, and I may need to do the same. I think that the C-16 will be ok. What is the size of the "loading gauge" for the K-27? Just overall height above the rails and the total width is all I need. What is the minimum radius for the K-27? Dan Fuller Carrollton, Texas -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 17-20, 2003 For more information, visit the web site at <http://www.summersteamup.com> ^^^
Re: Size of Accucraft K-27?
Mine (#461) is 5.75" wide over the cylinders as well as the width of the pilot beam. The shades on the cab are a bit wider at just a hair under 6". The stack is the tallest piece at 7.875". It's possible that other road numbers vary from this, since the cylinders are different on the other road numbers. Accucraft claims 30" minimum radius. I've run mine on 48" radius and it works fine. The two center driving axles have blind flange drivers. The tender drawbar has alternate holes for the connection to spread the distance between loco and tender on tight radii. See http://www.accucraft.com/pg-87140.htm for their web page on the K-27 live steam. It's not linked to any of their other pages === "Daniel R. Fuller" wrote: > > I am building a track and due to space limitations, I have a > clearance problem. I need to know the size of the Accucraft K-27. > I saw them at Diamondhead and they are huge. Real railroads had to > limit engines on certain tracks, and I may need to do the same. I > think that the C-16 will be ok. > > What is the size of the "loading gauge" for the K-27? Just overall > height above the rails and the total width is all I need. > > What is the minimum radius for the K-27? > > Dan Fuller > Carrollton, Texas >
Size of Accucraft K-27?
I am building a track and due to space limitations, I have a clearance problem. I need to know the size of the Accucraft K-27. I saw them at Diamondhead and they are huge. Real railroads had to limit engines on certain tracks, and I may need to do the same. I think that the C-16 will be ok. What is the size of the "loading gauge" for the K-27? Just overall height above the rails and the total width is all I need. What is the minimum radius for the K-27? Dan Fuller Carrollton, Texas
Re: Accucraft info
the web site has 510-324-3399. and when i just called it, somebody said, "accucraft." \dmc At 6:15 PM -0500 1/16/03, FBM Studios wrote: Hi Steve That is the same number I have - Its been terminated. Out of service Thanks Ferdinand On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Ciambrone, Steve @ OS wrote: 510-483-6900 Steve -Original Message- From: FBM Studios [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Accucraft info Hi Everyone Does anyone have the phone number for accucraft in the US. Thanks Ferdinand -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ATTEND THE NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN SACRAMENTO, JULY 17-20, 2003 For more information, visit the web site at <http://www.summersteamup.com> ^^^
Re: Accucraft info
Hi Steve That is the same number I have - Its been terminated. Out of service Thanks Ferdinand On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Ciambrone, Steve @ OS wrote: 510-483-6900 Steve -Original Message- From: FBM Studios [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:43 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Accucraft info Hi Everyone Does anyone have the phone number for accucraft in the US. Thanks Ferdinand
RE: Accucraft info
510-483-6900 Steve > -Original Message- > From: FBM Studios [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:43 PM > To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam > Subject: Accucraft info > > Hi Everyone > Does anyone have the phone number for accucraft in the US. > Thanks Ferdinand >
Accucraft info
Hi Everyone Does anyone have the phone number for accucraft in the US. Thanks Ferdinand
Re: Accucraft K-27
I have seen the K-27, it is gorgeous. Thanks for the pictures. What sort of track? I notice this is a drier climate than wet Eugene, Oregon. Having just remove leaves from gutters for the fifth time this fall/winter. Track needs clearing of leaves everytime I run this time of year. Gary - chilling in Eugene, Oregon http://www.angelfire.com/or/trainguy http://community.webshots.com/user/raltzenthor - Original Message - From: Phil Paskos To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft K-27 Looks good Clark; Thanks for sharing the pictures which also look good. Phil > Check out these Vance. Dave Hottmann was running his Saturday on my layout. > That's 22 cars behind that engine. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27a.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27b.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27c.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27d.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27e.jpg > > Clark >
Re: Accucraft K-27
At 10:07 PM -0700 12/9/02, Vance Bass wrote: Word has it that the Accucraft K-27s are starting to be delivered. Can I get a witness? to confirm that there isn't just one out there, a k-27 ran on my layout on saturday morning. pictures will be posted when i get the chance. how long is it? it's a big sonofabitch. \dmc -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton & Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA <http://45mm.com/> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ^^^
Re: Accucraft K-27
How long is it? Mike Eorgoff near Chicago - Original Message - From: "Dave Hottmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:52 PM Subject: Re: Accucraft K-27 > > Ran mine at Clark Lord's Saturday. Pictures on SitG Message Board. > > Dave Hottmann > Washington,Ut > - Original Message - > From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:07 PM > Subject: Accucraft K-27 > > > > Word has it that the Accucraft K-27s are starting to be delivered. Can I > get a > > witness? > > > > -vance- > > > > Is it too much to demand? I want a full house and a rock-and-roll band, > > Pens that won't run out of ink, and cool quiet and time to think. > > Shouldn't I have all of this, and passionate kisses? - Lucinda Williams > > > > > > > >
Re: Accucraft K-27
Looks good Clark; Thanks for sharing the pictures which also look good. Phil > Check out these Vance. Dave Hottmann was running his Saturday on my layout. > That's 22 cars behind that engine. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27a.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27b.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27c.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27d.jpg > http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27e.jpg > > Clark >
Re: Accucraft K-27
Ran mine at Clark Lord's Saturday. Pictures on SitG Message Board. Dave Hottmann Washington,Ut - Original Message - From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:07 PM Subject: Accucraft K-27 > Word has it that the Accucraft K-27s are starting to be delivered. Can I get a > witness? > > -vance- > > Is it too much to demand? I want a full house and a rock-and-roll band, > Pens that won't run out of ink, and cool quiet and time to think. > Shouldn't I have all of this, and passionate kisses? - Lucinda Williams > > >
Re: Accucraft K-27
Check out these Vance. Dave Hottmann was running his Saturday on my layout. That's 22 cars behind that engine. http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27a.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27b.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27c.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27d.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~clarklord/_images/k27e.jpg Clark Vance Bass wrote: > > Word has it that the Accucraft K-27s are starting to be delivered. Can I get a > witness? > > -vance- > > Is it too much to demand? I want a full house and a rock-and-roll band, > Pens that won't run out of ink, and cool quiet and time to think. > Shouldn't I have all of this, and passionate kisses? - Lucinda Williams >
Accucraft K-27
Word has it that the Accucraft K-27s are starting to be delivered. Can I get a witness? -vance- Is it too much to demand? I want a full house and a rock-and-roll band, Pens that won't run out of ink, and cool quiet and time to think. Shouldn't I have all of this, and passionate kisses? - Lucinda Williams
Re: Help with Accucraft Ida mods
In a message dated 11/26/02 7:33:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I want the burner converted to the "Radiant Poker Burner" type, and I need a couple of copper nipples silver soldered to a stainless steel tube so that I can run the steam pipe thru the flue. >> I have tried both the radiant burner and super heater in my Rubys with very limited success. To get one to work, one would need to totally rebuild the poker as it becomes too large by the time you wrap it. This restricts the air flow and you are back to square one. Even with the superheater on top, I just kept burning it up. At this moment the most sucessful change that I have made to the butane system is to change it to liquid feed with an accumalator tank next to the boiler. I just started last night building a second shut off valve between the boiler and the jet. I am using a #6 Roundhouse. Bob Starr http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/";>ART IN GARDEN RAILROADING-THE CGNR http://www.geocities.com/cgnr.geo/
Help with Accucraft Ida mods
Hi All, I've been steaming up my Ida most every weekend. Having lots of fun on my 12 ft x 12 ft raised loop. Now that my shay has arrived, I don't have to rely on my Ida to boil all my water, so I am ready to begin my winter project which is the modification of Ida to a 2-4-2T enclosed cab. I will also be making several performance modifications. My main problem is time. I am not so much skill challenged as I am time challenged. If I have to do all the work myself, my winter project will probably turn into a winter- spring-summer-fall project. I have decided that I would like contract out some of the modification work. Does anyone know of someone who would be willing to do this? I want the burner converted to the "Radiant Poker Burner" type, and I need a couple of copper nipples silver soldered to a stainless steel tube so that I can run the steam pipe thru the flue. Thanks, Mitch Nearhood
Re: Accucraft vs Roundhouse
Of course adding a radiant burner greatly increases burn time for a Butane poker burner. My Steamlines shay almost doubled operating time for one fill of the butane. - Original Message - From: Ciambrone, Steve @ OS To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:20 AM Subject: RE: Accucraft vs Roundhouse My Roundhouse Colonial sees far more running than my Ida and Exclesior for these same reasons, It will run for 30 minutes with only an occasional stop for some more meths. I do a lot of cussing when I run the gas burners, once the wicks are initially adjusted on a meths burner they have a very consistant burn. The gas burners need constant adjustment and do not hold enough fuel for my liking. I may change my Ida to a Tram engine with a new boiler with a meths burner and the Exclesior may get a larger fuel tank. I do not mind refueling during a run or using the goodall valve for more water but I find having to refill fuel and water during the same run too much trouble. This is the reason why I passed on the Accucraft Shay engine, I really did not like the way the Ida and Excelsior operated. Steve Ciambrone > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I miss the older > Roundhouse engines - quiet alcohol fired, pot boilered, nice(r) > cylinders. > > >
Re: Pc vs Mac / RH Vs Accucraft
Hi Keith, Never thought of using Gee--Gee's fuel or Peat's sake. Do you mean Saki?. Now that would blister your paintwork!!. Personnally, I steer clear of the Malt as well, to ensure our buddies have their share to keep their Scotsman Flying, and really chuffed. Pity that Aster went the liquor route with the Scotsman, but appropriate. But it is not a true "live steamer" in the real sense is it?. We really need to burn up all the fossil fuels and Mac's first, to make the world a better place eventually!. Maybe millions of coal fired Rubies @$25 each will do the trick. (I was wondering about the cause of China's smog). Must be one heck of a factory Accucraft has!!!. Regards, Tony D. At 01:14 PM 11/12/02 -0500, Keith Taylor wrote: - Original Message - From: "Anthony Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:22 PM > Anyone tried dried Haggis as an > alternative fuel source for McRubies?. > Tony D. > Gee what's all this talk about alternative fuelsfor Peat's sake! Keith
RE: Accucraft vs Roundhouse
My Roundhouse Colonial sees far more running than my Ida and Exclesior for these same reasons, It will run for 30 minutes with only an occasional stop for some more meths. I do a lot of cussing when I run the gas burners, once the wicks are initially adjusted on a meths burner they have a very consistant burn. The gas burners need constant adjustment and do not hold enough fuel for my liking. I may change my Ida to a Tram engine with a new boiler with a meths burner and the Exclesior may get a larger fuel tank. I do not mind refueling during a run or using the goodall valve for more water but I find having to refill fuel and water during the same run too much trouble. This is the reason why I passed on the Accucraft Shay engine, I really did not like the way the Ida and Excelsior operated. Steve Ciambrone > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I miss the older > Roundhouse engines - quiet alcohol fired, pot boilered, nice(r) > cylinders. > > >
Re: Pc vs Mac / RH Vs Accucraft
Keith Taylor wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Anthony Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:22 PM > > Anyone tried dried Haggis as an > > alternative fuel source for McRubies?. > > Tony D. > > > Gee what's all this talk about alternative fuelsfor Peat's sake! > Keith > Boy is this list going to get "bogged" down! Later, K
Re: Pc vs Mac / RH Vs Accucraft
- Original Message - From: "Anthony Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:22 PM > Anyone tried dried Haggis as an > alternative fuel source for McRubies?. > Tony D. > Gee what's all this talk about alternative fuelsfor Peat's sake! Keith
Re: Accucraft vs Roundhouse
Hello Group, Since we're on the subject, I'll air my only real complaint with Roundhouse... They have no functioning crossheads on the cylinders. Because of this, the rear covers wear oblong and quickly develop leaks. (particularly if you run frequently and pull heavy trains, as I did with mine) What bugs me most, however, is the fact that older Roundhouse engines (Dylan, Pooter, Colonial, etc...) DID have functioning crossheads. Why the engineering step backwards? I dunno... to lower costs? Simplify production? Thought crossheads weren't really needed? I miss the older Roundhouse engines - quiet alcohol fired, pot boilered, nice(r) cylinders. Of course, crossheads could be turned up and guide bars fitted, as Kevin Oconnor and Larry Bangham did on their Rubies but I sold all my Roundhouse engines instead. I have lots of respect for Accucraft because they have chosen to build their standard gauge models in the correct 1:32 scale... Can't wait to get my Southern Pacific GS3!!! I do still believe Roundhouse to be a pretty good value... Regards, -Jon
