Re: SeaMonkey 2.15 Update Lost E-mail Files

[HenriK]

Ray Davison wrote:

HenriK wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.15 automatically installed itself a day or so ago.  The
latest Java update also installed itself the same day.

When the machine was booted this morning, the e-mail menu and icons that
used to come up were missing and SeaMonkey called for a new e-mail
account to be set up.


BROKEN RECORD ALERT!!!

Put the profile(s) in their own tree away from the app(s).

Put the mail files in their own tree away from both apps and profiles.

Give your profile(s) names that are meaningful to you.

The name and location of all the above as well as apps is arbitrary. Put
them where you want, name them what you want.

Create a shortcut that has the target in the form of:
X:\SM214-Win\seamonkey.exe -Profilemanager
When you activate that shortcut a menu of available profiles will open.
  After adding or replacing a Mozilla product the profile you have been
using will probably be on that menu.  In the event it is not, select
create new profile, and set that "new" profile to use the sub-directory
that contains your standard profile.

My mail files started life in Netscape.  I have used this system since
then.  To lose mail I must loose a partition, not just do a simple app
change.  And I have had as many as twenty versions of SM, on the HDD,
using the same profile when I was looking for the date/time of a bug
insertion.

Ray

Thank you for your suggestions.  I still don't understand how SM v.2.15 
managed to lose its connection to the existing profile but maybe that is 
not important.


If I understand your suggestion correctly, you are telling me to have a 
'standard' profile stored somewhere so it can be used to create a new 
profile whenever this problem reoccurs.  Other than losing the bookmarks 
several upgrades ago, I have never seen SeaMonkey lose an e-mail profile 
during an upgrade -- and we have been using SeaMonkey since it evolved 
from the Mozilla Suite.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15 Update Lost E-mail Files

[HenriK]

Daniel wrote:

HenriK wrote:

On both my and my wife's PCs, we have used SeaMonkey since it first
became available.  On my wife's PC, running XP-Home, fully updated,
SeaMonkey 2.15 automatically installed itself a day or so ago.  The
latest Java update also installed itself the same day.

When the machine was booted this morning, the e-mail menu and icons that
used to come up were missing and SeaMonkey called for a new e-mail
account to be set up.  Other than the missing e-mail menus, everything
else in SeaMonkey seems to be working properly.  This situation reminds
me of a previous SeaMonkey upgrade where the bookmarks files went
missing.

As I go back to the MS-DOS days, I looked at the hard drive file
structure and it looks like both the e-mail and bookmarks files are, in
fact, still sitting on the hard drive in their proper positions.

1)  Can someone explain to me in simple language what may have gone
wrong?

2)  Can some kind soul tell me in a step-by-step 'fix it for dummies'
style how to get the e-mail working again?

3)  Ditto for restoring the bookmarks files.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all assistance.


Henrik, first off, in SeaMonkey have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles
and select "Default".Does your missing profile stuff show up now??

If not, having found your mail and bookmarks files (you are aware that
you bookmarks and other stuff are now stored in a file called
places.sqlite aren't you??), you can make yourself a new profile and
point it at these found files, e.g., if you found your bookmarks file at
something like C:\Documents and Settings\Seamonkey\profile\bookmarks and
your emails at C:\Documents and Settings\Seamonkey\profile\mail\inbox,
what you want to do is set up a new profile at C:\Documents and
Settings\Seamonkey\profile\

Go to Tools->Switch Profiles, select Manage Profiles and Create Profile
and, on the second screen, call it "TWO" (or whatever) and then click on
"Choose Folder..." and make your way to C:\Documents and
Settings\Seamonkey\profile. Click O.K. and, hopefully, it will pick up
you bookmarks (places.sqlite) and mail profile and away you go..

Hopefully.

Thank you for your insights.  The 'switch profiles' idea didn't work 
because there wasn't a default profile, only my wife's profile.  While 
it was listed, trying to select it didn't do anything.


I didn't know about the 'places.sqlite' so thank you for the pointer.  I 
do know where all of the mail files are located.


I am a bit confused when you say 'make yourself a new profile', but I 
believe I understand your instructions and will try to follow them shortly.



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Manage Cookies . 2.15

[question]

2 computers ,, And Manage Cookies have 2 different screen.. 2.15

 #1 the screen has the sites listed on the left of the Screen// #2 
doesnot have this


 #1 just lets me See or delete the cookies and whether I want to Block 
or all cookies at each domain


 #2 There are no settings to Block or allow the cookies, But SEE and 
delete the cookies is there ..


 the list on the left is not hidden. It's gone .

 I uninstalled 2.15 and install 2.08  And All is Well..
 Take it out and put 2.15 back in and all is Messed up.with cookies ..

 Password manager is also messed up..


#1  click Help/about seamonkey, then click the seamonket and it takes me 
to The Seamonkey project site to get the latest version


#2   The Results take me to Mozzilla.com site and it has no info on sea 
monkey .


 P.S .. While trying to get Java to work on pogo, I did install firefox 
and it would not load pogo neither , so i uninstalled it and reinstall 
seamonkey 2.15 ..


I think some files got messed up ( cross linked ..

 As Obama says,, " Its all bush's Fault "  Come June he will be blaming 
Hillary Clinton




Anyone got any ideas ?



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Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem

[question]

Roger Fink wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm
running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far
as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are
identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to machine.
On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7.

At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked
for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there.

But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming
quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java.
Firefox launches java here without a problem.

Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at
Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it
was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try.


I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and where I
would expect the same problem of not being able to launch java to occur,
works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be site-related.


The newest version of Java .. raises the secrity lever Bat to HIGH 
because of Kackers taking control... It checks for Security Certificates 
at the web sites. If there expired or have none , it will not function.. 
  Click Java in control panel and lower the security bar to Medium. 
But download the newest java from Java.com .. They also explain this to 
you .

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[question]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 11:27 AM, Rickles wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.


Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't
have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the
plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the
Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what
I described to begin with.

I can begin to understand the current version of SM blocking Java due
it's zero-day vulnerability, but if I am supposed to have the option to
turn it back on, I have no idea how to do that because I can't see or
find an option anywhere to re-enable it.  And Mr Gordon is accessing the
same site as my wife, Pogo.com.  So he's seeing the same thing we are.
And SM is preventing the site from using Java in any version state.

I'm not as prepared to 'jump ship' as Mr Gordon puts it, but either I
have a fault which prevents me from seeing a re-enable option (help!?),
or someone has programmed this to take the choice away from me.  Either
way, I can't there from here.

I don't want to give up SM: I've seen Firefox and I prefer the suite
verion I use now (and have been using for many years).  And I detest the
MS product.  It's bad enough I have to put up with it at work, I don't
want to deal with it at home as well. (I'm an IT system/network admin,
but not a programmer.)



Okay.  I'll rephrase my comment.

Configuration:
Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15
Java J2SE RTE 7 update 11

For me, I can still use Java.  I get a gray box with a Lego block and
the caption: "Click here to activate plugin."  I click (once, not
double-click) on the caption, and Java is working.


Just download the NEW java from http://www.java.com

All it does is raise the Security level bar from Medium to HIGH ,,

About pluggins No longer gives java as a Choice ,
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Re: new User

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

There's something wrong with your clock. You're almost three days in the 
past.

Theresa Hall wrote:

> I need your help. I am tasked with maintaining a web site. I was hoping
> SeaMonkey would be the software I needed. It took me a while to figure
> out how to access my website but I did. I still can't figure out how to
> make changes that will publish. I can't seem to create an account on the
> development team for SeaMonkey either. Thank you for your time.

Are you talking about the Composer?  Best to use something modern, as that 
hasn't been worked on in a decade.

But first! What technology does this unnamed web site use? The answer to 
*this* will determine what you need to maintain it. What's the URL?

-- 
   -bts
   -This space for rent, but the price is high
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Re: coupon printer

[berniez]

Yes this requires activeX
Rob wrote:

W3BNR  wrote:

On 1/17/2013 12:06 PM bern...@nospam.com submitted the following:

Anyone know why coupon printer application does not work with Seamonkey. The
coupon printer app is installed when you want to print coupons on sites such as
scjohnson.com which market cleaners and just about everything else for the home
(scrubbing bubbles, etc) and other sites that use the app to print online
coupons with bar codes. It works fine in Internet Explorer. Anyone have a
workaround for this. This is a minor issue so I am not overly concerned about
it. Just want to know if there is a fix.
Bernie


Don't know of any fix, but I agree that it doesn't work.  I go to a site to
print a coupon.  It says I need 'coupon printer' and to download and install it,
and the coupon will print then.  I download and install it and nothing happens
except the site I'm on thinks I printed the coupon and I can't retrieve it to
print again.

I have complained to sites that use this method of printing coupons and most
will then send via snail mail the coupon.

I never have had this work in any version of SeaMonkey with any version of
Windows (up to Version 7).  Always works in IE.


What kind of plugin is that "coupon printer"?
Is it ActiveX?  IE will tell you that when you go to the site without
the plugin installed.



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new User

[Theresa Hall]

I need your help. I am tasked with maintaining a web site. I was hoping 
SeaMonkey would be the software I needed. It took me a while to figure 
out how to access my website but I did.I still can't figure out how to 
make changes that will publish. I can't seem to create an account on the 
development team for SeaMonkey either. Thank you for your time.


Theresa Hall

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[David E. Ross]

On 1/18/13 11:27 AM, Rickles wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:
>>> I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
>>> security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
>>> wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
>>> our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
>>> SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
>>> Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
>>> Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.
>>>
>>> This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
>>> appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
>>> back on in SM.
>>>
>>
>> Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.
>>
> Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't 
> have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the 
> plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the 
> Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what 
> I described to begin with.
> 
> I can begin to understand the current version of SM blocking Java due 
> it's zero-day vulnerability, but if I am supposed to have the option to 
> turn it back on, I have no idea how to do that because I can't see or 
> find an option anywhere to re-enable it.  And Mr Gordon is accessing the 
> same site as my wife, Pogo.com.  So he's seeing the same thing we are. 
> And SM is preventing the site from using Java in any version state.
> 
> I'm not as prepared to 'jump ship' as Mr Gordon puts it, but either I 
> have a fault which prevents me from seeing a re-enable option (help!?), 
> or someone has programmed this to take the choice away from me.  Either 
> way, I can't there from here.
> 
> I don't want to give up SM: I've seen Firefox and I prefer the suite 
> verion I use now (and have been using for many years).  And I detest the 
> MS product.  It's bad enough I have to put up with it at work, I don't 
> want to deal with it at home as well. (I'm an IT system/network admin, 
> but not a programmer.)
> 

Okay.  I'll rephrase my comment.

Configuration:
Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15
Java J2SE RTE 7 update 11

For me, I can still use Java.  I get a gray box with a Lego block and
the caption: "Click here to activate plugin."  I click (once, not
double-click) on the caption, and Java is working.

-- 
David E. Ross


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 15/01/2013 22:03:

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 15/01/2013 16:45:


Ray_Net wrote:


I think that he spaeak about Mails, not News  there is no Threads
in mail.

Yet there is a View / Threads option in Mail (I never use Usenet news),
and changing the option changes the threads that are displayed . . .

Philip Taylor

Oups ! You are true ... i never imagine that.
Anyway i have "All" for View-Threads option.
But i cannot see threads .. i see mails after mails without relations
between 2 mails.


If you want mails to be threaded, choose View | Sort by | Threaded.

If you look very carefully, you can see a pale gray hairline between 
the three sets of options (Date... Attachments; Ascending/Descending; 
and Threaded/Unthreaded/Grouped by Sort). You can choose independently 
for each of the three groups, so for example you can have Date, 
Ascending, Threaded as I do.


In the case where you've chosen View | Messages | Unread (a separate 
option), each message that you open is automatically marked as read 
(until you unmark it manually), so if you view a message and then 
select another one, the first one (which is now marked as read) will 
disappear from the list. If you want all messages to be listed 
regardless of read/unread status, choose View | Messages | All. The 
unread ones will still be bolded in the list so you can tell them apart.


Another little-known option is at Edit | Preferences | Mail & 
Newsgroups | Message Display:


[x] Automatically mark messages as read
   (•) Immediately on display
   (o) After displaying for 00 seconds

This is the default. If you want messages to be marked as read only 
after some delay, choose the last option and enter the number of 
seconds. This way, you can view a message briefly and move on and it 
will remain "unread." Or, if you never want the system to mark 
messages as read (if you want to do all such marking manually), 
disable the first option.



Thanks for your reply - this is realy usefull informations.
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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Roger Fink]

Roger Fink wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Rickles wrote:
>>> Roger Fink wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Michael Gordon wrote:
>
>> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had
>> SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in
>> the Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA
>> applets would not run. ...
>>
>> Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the
>> latest version of the JAVA plugin.
>>
>> It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
>> Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid
>> to rest with honors.
>>
>> Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.
>
> On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright
> red message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be
> vulnerable. Use with caution," followed by a link to "More
> information," which points here:
> . Details
> of the block request are available here:
> . Using SM
> 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
> and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying
> I had to "click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started,
> and it ran normally.
>
> I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
> logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again,
> I was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did
> not enable Java globally or permanently.
>
> Accordingly, two points:
>
> 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
> Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting
> you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability,
> you can, on demand.
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.

 The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM
 v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you
 describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java
 presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I
 selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a
 glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances
 if you need to (and some of us do).
>>> I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle
>>> placeholder, nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the "Java
>>> (version) is known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution." Then a
>>> link called 'More Information' which takes you to
>>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case
>>> of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled
>>> and no longer usable.
>>>
>>> Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
>>> supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can
>>> turn Java back on?
>>
>> If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of
>> several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That
>> should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss
>
> And based on the "recognition problem" you're experiencing, I would
> completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a
> later one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey
> and then go into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus.

Sorry for the mistake - my bad: I meant conventional uninstall through 
Windows (or Revo), not SeaMonkey. 


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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Roger Fink]

Roger Fink wrote:
> Rickles wrote:
>> Roger Fink wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Michael Gordon wrote:

> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had
> SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the
> Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets
> would not run. ...
>
> Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest
> version of the JAVA plugin.
>
> It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
> Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid
> to rest with honors.
>
> Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.

 On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright
 red message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable.
 Use with caution," followed by a link to "More information," which
 points here:
 . Details
 of the block request are available here:
 . Using SM
 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
 and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying
 I had to "click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started,
 and it ran normally.

 I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
 logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I
 was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not
 enable Java globally or permanently.

 Accordingly, two points:

 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
 Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting
 you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability,
 you can, on demand.

 --
 War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>>>
>>> The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM
>>> v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you
>>> describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java
>>> presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I
>>> selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a
>>> glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances
>>> if you need to (and some of us do).
>> I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder,
>> nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the "Java (version) is
>> known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution." Then a link called 'More
>> Information' which takes you to
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case
>> of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled
>> and no longer usable.
>>
>> Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
>> supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn
>> Java back on?
>
> If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of
> several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That
> should do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss

And based on the "recognition problem" you're experiencing, I would 
completely uninstall the version that you have before installing a later 
one. By uninstall I mean a conventional uninstall via Seamonkey and then go 
into the Windows file tree and erase all that detritus. 


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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Roger Fink]

Rickles wrote:
> Roger Fink wrote:
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Michael Gordon wrote:
>>>
 SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had
 SM 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the
 Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets
 would not run. ...

 Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest
 version of the JAVA plugin.

 It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
 Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid
 to rest with honors.

 Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.
>>>
>>> On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright
>>> red message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable.
>>> Use with caution," followed by a link to "More information," which
>>> points here:
>>> . Details
>>> of the block request are available here:
>>> . Using SM 2.15, I 
>>> visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet,
>>> and that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying
>>> I had to "click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started,
>>> and it ran normally.
>>>
>>> I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
>>> logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I
>>> was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not
>>> enable Java globally or permanently.
>>>
>>> Accordingly, two points:
>>>
>>> 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with
>>> Oracle's product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting
>>> you. 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you
>>> can, on demand.
>>>
>>> --
>>> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
>>
>> The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM
>> v.15. My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you
>> describe. The first time I clicked the box to enable it, java
>> presented me with an option to remember the permission, which I
>> selected. The second time it just presented the box, so there is a
>> glitch somewhere, but at least you can use it in selected instances
>> if you need to (and some of us do).
> I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder,
> nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the "Java (version) is
> known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution." Then a link called 'More
> Information' which takes you to
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case
> of Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled
> and no longer usable.
>
> Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm
> supposed to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn
> Java back on?

If you install the prefbar extension you can easily access (by one of 
several display options) a check box to enable or disable java. That should 
do it, but I would upgrade to java 7.11 first.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/prefbar/?src=ss



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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Rickles]

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had SM
2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the
Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets
would not run. ...

Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest
version of the JAVA plugin.

It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to
rest with honors.

Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.


On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red
message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use
with caution," followed by a link to "More information," which points
here: .
Details of the block request are available here:
.

Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and
that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had
to "click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started, and it
ran normally.

I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I
was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not
enable Java globally or permanently.

Accordingly, two points:

1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's
product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you.

2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can,
on demand.

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The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM v.15.
My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you describe. The
first time I clicked the box to enable it, java presented me with an option
to remember the permission, which I selected. The second time it just
presented the box, so there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use
it in selected instances if you need to (and some of us do).


I'm not seeing any box, pop-up, pop-under, jigsaw-puzzle placeholder, 
nuttin'.  SM Add-On Mgr shows a warning that the "Java (version) is 
known to be vulnerable.  Use with caution." Then a link called 'More 
Information' which takes you to 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p186 (in the case of 
Java 1.6_38), and that tells you it's been automatically disabled and no 
longer usable.


Back to my original question: how do I turn it back on?  If I'm supposed 
to see some dialog box, how do I force THAT on so I can turn Java back on?

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Re: Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem

[Roger Fink]

Roger Fink wrote:
> On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm
> running Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far
> as I know, the settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are
> identical, or as close to that as possible, from machine to machine.
> On XP everything works fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7.
>
> At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked
> for permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there.
>
> But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming
> quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java.
> Firefox launches java here without a problem.
>
> Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at
> Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it
> was about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try.

I've noticed that one other site with a similar application, and where I 
would expect the same problem of not being able to launch java to occur, 
works OK, so it appears that the above problem may be site-related. 


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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Roger Fink]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Michael Gordon wrote:
>
>> SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had SM
>> 2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the
>> Ad-Ons Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets
>> would not run. ...
>>
>> Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest
>> version of the JAVA plugin.
>>
>> It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing
>> Dragon has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to
>> rest with honors.
>>
>> Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.
>
> On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red
> message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use
> with caution," followed by a link to "More information," which points
> here: .
> Details of the block request are available here:
> .
>
> Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and
> that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had
> to "click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started, and it
> ran normally.
>
> I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned,
> logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I
> was told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not
> enable Java globally or permanently.
>
> Accordingly, two points:
>
> 1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's
> product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you.
>
> 2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can,
> on demand.
>
> --
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.

The java plugin is enabled without conditions or warnings in my SM v.15.
My experience in activating java on time.gov is like what you describe. The 
first time I clicked the box to enable it, java presented me with an option 
to remember the permission, which I selected. The second time it just 
presented the box, so there is a glitch somewhere, but at least you can use 
it in selected instances if you need to (and some of us do).


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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[Rickles]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.

Begging your pardon, Mr Ross, but if Java weren't blocked, I wouldn't 
have posted the message in the first place.  In point of fact, the 
plug-in is blocked, and the option to ENABLE it is not visible in the 
Add-Ons Mgr screen.  The only button visible is 'Disable', which is what 
I described to begin with.


I can begin to understand the current version of SM blocking Java due 
it's zero-day vulnerability, but if I am supposed to have the option to 
turn it back on, I have no idea how to do that because I can't see or 
find an option anywhere to re-enable it.  And Mr Gordon is accessing the 
same site as my wife, Pogo.com.  So he's seeing the same thing we are. 
And SM is preventing the site from using Java in any version state.


I'm not as prepared to 'jump ship' as Mr Gordon puts it, but either I 
have a fault which prevents me from seeing a re-enable option (help!?), 
or someone has programmed this to take the choice away from me.  Either 
way, I can't there from here.


I don't want to give up SM: I've seen Firefox and I prefer the suite 
verion I use now (and have been using for many years).  And I detest the 
MS product.  It's bad enough I have to put up with it at work, I don't 
want to deal with it at home as well. (I'm an IT system/network admin, 
but not a programmer.)

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[cmcadams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.



But something has definitely changed in SM's handling of Java in the last few days. 
How'd "they" do this, since I haven't changed my SM (or Java) in that time?

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[cmcadams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.



But something has definitely changed in SM's handling of Java in the last few days. 
How'd "they" do this, since I haven't changed my SM (or Java) in that time?

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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Michael Gordon wrote:


SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had SM
2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons
Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run.

...

Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest
version of the JAVA plugin.

It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing Dragon
has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to rest with
honors.

Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.


On my system, at about:plugins, the plugin is listed with a bright red 
message, "Java(TM) Platform SE 7 U11 is known to be vulnerable. Use with 
caution," followed by a link to "More information," which points here: 
. Details of 
the block request are available here: 
.


Using SM 2.15, I visited a familiar site that uses a Java applet, and 
that part of the page was displayed with a puzzle piece saying I had to 
"click here to activate plugin." I clicked, Java started, and it ran 
normally.


I closed the page (which clears its session cookies) and returned, 
logged in all over again, and repeated the procedure. Once again, I was 
told I had to click to activate Java. So that one click did not enable 
Java globally or permanently.


Accordingly, two points:

1) The problem is not of Mozilla's making, it's a fault with Oracle's 
product so it's not fair to blame Mozilla for protecting you.


2) If you really want to run Java despite its vulnerability, you can, on 
demand.


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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[Michael Gordon]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.




David,

SM 2.15 effectively blocks all versions of JAVA.  Yesterday I had SM 
2.13 installed and running JAVA applets by enabling JAVA in the Ad-Ons 
Manager.  Last night I upgraded to SM 2.15 and JAVA applets would not run.


I checked the Ad-Ons Manager and JAVA was disabled, I enabled JAVA and 
tried the previous applets, they would not run, in fact the web site 
(Pogo.com)  insisted I download and install the latest version of the 
JAVA plugin.  I downloaded again from the Oracle web site and tried to 
install, the install program stated I already had the current version 
installed, I replied to install anyway.


After restarting SM I tried the Pogo.com applet and again I was prompted 
to install the latest JAVA upstate.


Side note:  Internet Explorer, v.8, has no problem with the latest 
version of the JAVA plugin.


It is time to jump the sinking ship.  The Mozilla Fire Breathing Dragon 
has run out of gas, has lost its spark, and should be laid to rest with 
honors.


Thanks for the ride, Mozilla, it has been a fun ride.

M Gordon

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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[David E. Ross]

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:
> I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java 
> security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my 
> wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either 
> our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because 
> SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6 
> Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in 
> Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.
> 
> This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd 
> appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java 
> back on in SM.
> 

Java 7u11 is NOT blocked for SeaMonkey 2.15 under Windows XP.

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Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

[Rickles]

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java 
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my 
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either 
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because 
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6 
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in 
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.


This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd 
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java 
back on in SM.

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Re: coupon printer

[Rob]

W3BNR  wrote:
> On 1/17/2013 12:06 PM bern...@nospam.com submitted the following:
>> Anyone know why coupon printer application does not work with Seamonkey. The
>> coupon printer app is installed when you want to print coupons on sites such 
>> as
>> scjohnson.com which market cleaners and just about everything else for the 
>> home
>> (scrubbing bubbles, etc) and other sites that use the app to print online
>> coupons with bar codes. It works fine in Internet Explorer. Anyone have a
>> workaround for this. This is a minor issue so I am not overly concerned about
>> it. Just want to know if there is a fix.
>> Bernie
>
> Don't know of any fix, but I agree that it doesn't work.  I go to a site to
> print a coupon.  It says I need 'coupon printer' and to download and install 
> it,
> and the coupon will print then.  I download and install it and nothing happens
> except the site I'm on thinks I printed the coupon and I can't retrieve it to
> print again.
>
> I have complained to sites that use this method of printing coupons and most
> will then send via snail mail the coupon.
>
> I never have had this work in any version of SeaMonkey with any version of
> Windows (up to Version 7).  Always works in IE.

What kind of plugin is that "coupon printer"?
Is it ActiveX?  IE will tell you that when you go to the site without
the plugin installed.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15 Update Lost E-mail Files

[Ray Davison]

HenriK wrote:


SeaMonkey 2.15 automatically installed itself a day or so ago.  The
latest Java update also installed itself the same day.

When the machine was booted this morning, the e-mail menu and icons that
used to come up were missing and SeaMonkey called for a new e-mail
account to be set up.


BROKEN RECORD ALERT!!!

Put the profile(s) in their own tree away from the app(s).

Put the mail files in their own tree away from both apps and profiles.

Give your profile(s) names that are meaningful to you.

The name and location of all the above as well as apps is arbitrary. 
Put them where you want, name them what you want.


Create a shortcut that has the target in the form of:
X:\SM214-Win\seamonkey.exe -Profilemanager
When you activate that shortcut a menu of available profiles will open. 
 After adding or replacing a Mozilla product the profile you have been 
using will probably be on that menu.  In the event it is not, select 
create new profile, and set that "new" profile to use the sub-directory 
that contains your standard profile.


My mail files started life in Netscape.  I have used this system since 
then.  To lose mail I must loose a partition, not just do a simple app 
change.  And I have had as many as twenty versions of SM, on the HDD, 
using the same profile when I was looking for the date/time of a bug 
insertion.


Ray

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Win7/SM15/Java7.11 problem

[Roger Fink]

On each of two computers, one running XP the other Windows 7, I'm running 
Seamonkey 15 and Firefox 18 with Java 7.11 installed. As far as I know, the 
settings for Java, and the browser configurations, are identical, or as 
close to that as possible, from machine to machine. On XP everything works 
fine, but I'm having a Java problem on Win7.

At this site, www.time.gov, on both machines, java in Seamonkey asked for 
permission to run and committed it to memory. So no problem there.

But at this site, www.stockwatch.com, when I tried to access streaming 
quotes (behind a paywall), Seamonkey on Win7 refused to launch java. Firefox 
launches java here without a problem.

Security is set to allow popups (required for the java app) at 
Stockwatch.com, and the firewall would have given me an option if it was 
about to block it, so I'm not sure what else to try.


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Re: coupon printer

[W3BNR]

On 1/17/2013 12:06 PM bern...@nospam.com submitted the following:
> Anyone know why coupon printer application does not work with Seamonkey. The
> coupon printer app is installed when you want to print coupons on sites such 
> as
> scjohnson.com which market cleaners and just about everything else for the 
> home
> (scrubbing bubbles, etc) and other sites that use the app to print online
> coupons with bar codes. It works fine in Internet Explorer. Anyone have a
> workaround for this. This is a minor issue so I am not overly concerned about
> it. Just want to know if there is a fix.
> Bernie

Don't know of any fix, but I agree that it doesn't work.  I go to a site to
print a coupon.  It says I need 'coupon printer' and to download and install it,
and the coupon will print then.  I download and install it and nothing happens
except the site I'm on thinks I printed the coupon and I can't retrieve it to
print again.

I have complained to sites that use this method of printing coupons and most
will then send via snail mail the coupon.

I never have had this work in any version of SeaMonkey with any version of
Windows (up to Version 7).  Always works in IE.



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Re: coupon printer

[Jay Garcia]

On 17.01.2013 11:06, bern...@nospam.com wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> Anyone know why coupon printer application does not work with Seamonkey.
> The coupon printer app is installed when you want to print coupons on
> sites such as scjohnson.com which market cleaners and just about
> everything else for the home (scrubbing bubbles, etc) and other sites
> that use the app to print online coupons with bar codes. It works fine
> in Internet Explorer. Anyone have a workaround for this. This is a minor
> issue so I am not overly concerned about it. Just want to know if there
> is a fix.
> Bernie

Works here with SM 2.14 and 2.15. Do you get an error message?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.15 Update Lost E-mail Files

[Daniel]

HenriK wrote:

On both my and my wife's PCs, we have used SeaMonkey since it first
became available.  On my wife's PC, running XP-Home, fully updated,
SeaMonkey 2.15 automatically installed itself a day or so ago.  The
latest Java update also installed itself the same day.

When the machine was booted this morning, the e-mail menu and icons that
used to come up were missing and SeaMonkey called for a new e-mail
account to be set up.  Other than the missing e-mail menus, everything
else in SeaMonkey seems to be working properly.  This situation reminds
me of a previous SeaMonkey upgrade where the bookmarks files went missing.

As I go back to the MS-DOS days, I looked at the hard drive file
structure and it looks like both the e-mail and bookmarks files are, in
fact, still sitting on the hard drive in their proper positions.

1)  Can someone explain to me in simple language what may have gone wrong?

2)  Can some kind soul tell me in a step-by-step 'fix it for dummies'
style how to get the e-mail working again?

3)  Ditto for restoring the bookmarks files.

Thanks, in advance, for any and all assistance.


Henrik, first off, in SeaMonkey have a look at Tools->Switch Profiles 
and select "Default".Does your missing profile stuff show up now??


If not, having found your mail and bookmarks files (you are aware that 
you bookmarks and other stuff are now stored in a file called 
places.sqlite aren't you??), you can make yourself a new profile and 
point it at these found files, e.g., if you found your bookmarks file at 
something like C:\Documents and Settings\Seamonkey\profile\bookmarks and 
your emails at C:\Documents and Settings\Seamonkey\profile\mail\inbox, 
what you want to do is set up a new profile at C:\Documents and 
Settings\Seamonkey\profile\


Go to Tools->Switch Profiles, select Manage Profiles and Create Profile 
and, on the second screen, call it "TWO" (or whatever) and then click on 
"Choose Folder..." and make your way to C:\Documents and 
Settings\Seamonkey\profile. Click O.K. and, hopefully, it will pick up 
you bookmarks (places.sqlite) and mail profile and away you go..


Hopefully.

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