Re: Videos Won't Play

[NoOp]

On 05/08/2014 03:59 PM, Trane Francks wrote:
> On 5/9/14 6:52 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:
>>> WaltS48 wrote:
 On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
> We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
> get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
> found."
>
> If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
> Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
> least try to play, but only with black screens.


 This one? 

 Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
>>>
>>> Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!
>>>
>> Do you speak about this one ?
>>
>> http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
>>
> When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you 
> seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!
> 

Hate to say it but... I open Chromium, right click on the video and
select "Copy video URL".
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Re: Seamonkey 2.26 is up on Ubuntuzilla now.

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Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Got a pleasant surprise when I checked for updates this morning. Update
went without a hitch.



yay... finally a new one...

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[sean nathan]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:20 PM +0900, Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop
all the time.


I'll add that the video plays just fine in Safari 6.1.3. H.



plays just fine in Chromium for me...


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[sean nathan]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


http://wqdatalive.com/public/55  "No video with supported format and 
mime-type found" in mine...


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[NoOp]

On 05/08/2014 06:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Robert Gault wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
>>
>> There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
>> whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
>> tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
>> Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.
>>
>> If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
>>  
>>  
>>  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
>>  
>>
>> This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
>> HTML5 sites.
> 
> But the file in question is 
> ,
>  
> so no HTML5 support is needed.
> 
> As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.
> 

Correct. And I switch both flash *and* WebM off and the vido plays (when
using the individual .mp4 link).
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[NoOp]

On 05/08/2014 10:00 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 05/08/2014 05:49 AM, Trane Francks wrote:
>> On 5/8/14 9:35 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:

 So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
>>>
>>> There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on 
>>> whether
>>> the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for 
>>> Helpers
>>> both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that 
>>> video/mp4
>>> points to these helpers.
>>>
>>> If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
>>> 
>>>
>>> This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle 
>>> HTML5 sites.
>>>
>> SeaMonkey does handle HTML5 video, but not all HTML5 video is the same. 
>> WebM and Ogg/Theora work fine. H.264/MP4 seem to be problematic. It is 
>> the latter that is featured on the OP's site.
>> 
>> For what it's worth, Firefox 29.0 doesn't do it, either. So, yeah, this 
>> isn't going to work with Mozilla browsers for at least the time being.
>> 
> 
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26
> 
> I was able to play the video - but *only* if I open the video url
> ()
> in a seperate tab/window (with flash turned on or flash turned off and
> webM only turned on).
> 
> file NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
> NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 1
> 
> Perhaps related to:
> 
> ( Video format or MIME type is not supported. - should do content
> sniffing on video tag )
> 
>  (BTW: Opened w/o issue in Chromium Version 34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 14.04
> aura (260972))
> 

Apologies. I forgot to add my mp4 plugin:

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6

File: libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
Path: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
Version:
State: Enabled
The Videos 3.10.1 plugin handles video and audio streams.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[NoOp]

On 05/08/2014 05:49 AM, Trane Francks wrote:
> On 5/8/14 9:35 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>>
>>> So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
>>
>> There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether
>> the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for 
>> Helpers
>> both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4
>> points to these helpers.
>>
>> If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
>>  
>>  
>>  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
>>  
>>
>> This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
>> sites.
>>
> SeaMonkey does handle HTML5 video, but not all HTML5 video is the same. 
> WebM and Ogg/Theora work fine. H.264/MP4 seem to be problematic. It is 
> the latter that is featured on the OP's site.
> 
> For what it's worth, Firefox 29.0 doesn't do it, either. So, yeah, this 
> isn't going to work with Mozilla browsers for at least the time being.
> 

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26

I was able to play the video - but *only* if I open the video url
()
in a seperate tab/window (with flash turned on or flash turned off and
webM only turned on).

file NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4
NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4: ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 1

Perhaps related to:

( Video format or MIME type is not supported. - should do content
sniffing on video tag )

 (BTW: Opened w/o issue in Chromium Version 34.0.1847.116 Ubuntu 14.04
aura (260972))
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[sean nathan]

Ed Mullen wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

sean nathan wrote:

nick...@gmail.com wrote:

I felt compelled to write this after the seeing the disaster that
Firefox is turning into with that new Australis interface.

SeaMonkey developers, you are doing an amazing job. I think the
interface is excellent, logical and *just works*, especially for
desktop.
Please don't feel any need to ruin it in the same way that Firefox has
been ruined with the dumbed-down Chrome wannabe interface!

If you feel the same, please show your support for SeaMonkey devs. :)



Really have to interject that i do NOT want Seamonkey to "remain the
same" if that means the browser becomes more and more unusable over
time... as things stand now, i only use Seamonkey's e'mail client with
regularity. The browser is just too slow for modern needs... throws up
too many irrelevant warnings and annoys me when it won't open sites or
play sound, or other silly nonsense...

i DO want it to remain the same as a combined e'mail & browser, but
only
if the browser component quits moving like its full of frozen
molasses...


If you don't like the nags, most of them can be turned off. I don't have
the problems you mention, so if you can be more specific, we can
probably solve them here.


my issues are mostly with speed... my cable internet is 50 mbps up and
20 down... so this browser should fly... instead it sits and spins when
loading pages... which my install of chromium opens quickly...

installed the 64 bit linux version of SM if that makes any difference...
  no nags today, so no real worries...



Surely you've got that backwards:  Shouldn't it be 50 M down and 20 up?

And, please cite specific sites where your issue happens.  No matter
what your ISP speeds, servers/specific sites throttle bandwidth.  You
can do a speedtest.net test and see your ISP throughput but, in real
world usage, you'll never see those speeds.

I have 30 Mbps down from Comcast and it tests that way.  Never see more
than about 3 Mbps in real-world usage other than my FTP link on my own
Web server.  That sometimes does 10 Mbps.

Frankly, whenever I read an article about Web speed in the U.S. and the
world I wonder about this.  Everyone's all het up about giving everyone
super high-speed links.  So what?  If Web servers will only deliver a
throttled 3 Mbps?  What's the point?

I can afford the extra speed I'm paying for but am considering
downgrading.  Why pay for speed no one will let me use?  My car will go
130 MPH but there's no road in the U.S. that will let me drive that fast.


you are correct, i'm dyslexic and reversed my upload/download speeds... 
 we regularly get more than we pay for down here in Tucson... we 
suspect the UofA and proximity of Military base needs have something to 
do with our unusual speeds...


facebook is of course a cudgel... in Seamonkey, it slows to a crawl... 
then starts getting jumpy... while i can pretty freely scroll backwards 
for days in chromium... not possible in Seamonkey...


am reminded of one of the nags that bugs me... Seamonkey once again 
advised me ""To protect your privacy, Seamonky has blocked remote 
content... from someone who's been in my addressbook for decades... and 
from whom i receive daily e'mail...


its always asking me to "click here to always load remote content from 
the same e'mail addresses in my collected addressbook over and over 
again...





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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Dennis]

Tom Pamin wrote:
> Trane Francks wrote:
>> On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:
>> On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
>>> can't
>>> get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
>>> type
>>> found."
>>>
>>> If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
>>> Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
>>> least try to play, but only with black screens.
>>
>>
>> This one? 
>>
>> Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
> I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
> the title:
> Regional Science Consortium
> Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle

 Follow the OP's instructions:
  >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

>>> I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
>>> Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
>>> up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?
>>>
>> In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
>> add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
>> way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
>> gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
>> video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
>> application, the video frame still shows the same error.
>>
>> Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
>> there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.
>>
> So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
> 

Yes it plays in SM version 2.24, linux.

I can't help in windows.

Dennis


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Geoff Welsh]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/08/2014 08:34 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


That's what I'm getting too.

GW
on OSX



No Near Shore Buoy? No Latest Video when you click Near Shore Buoy?



upon looking at it for a third time, I see it does indeed say "Latest 
Video" above and to the left of where my train of thought, and mind 
focus had already traveled.  The map changing on the right side of the 
page had me focused there waiting for the mystery video.


Oh, well, one more bad page on the webshocking
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/9/14 6:52 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4



When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!


Try View | Page Info or CTRL-I. You'll find it on the Media tab.

If you can read javascript, look at how they assemble the URL at the 
bottom of the source code, under "loadSidebarData(siteID,siteName)" etc. 
But it's much easier to let SM do the calculation and read its answer as 
above. ;-)


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Rufus]

Daniel wrote:

On 8/05/2014 11:37 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:





My car will go
130 MPH but there's no road in the U.S. that will let me drive that fast.


Come on over, Ed! Australia's Northern Territory used to have unlimited
speed restrictions, but, about five years ago, restricted it to 130Km/H
(approx 80-85 MpH) but has recently switched back to unlimited!! :-)

Daniel




...we got PLENTY of roads out here in the desert between the high Mojave 
and death valley where people can break 130 *easy*...well, I can do it 
easy enough in my Z06 Covette, anyway...which I'm dead certain will do 
200+ MPH judging by the where the RPM is at 130.  But 130 is about where 
my nerve runs out.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

On 05/08/2014 08:34 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


That's what I'm getting too.

GW
on OSX



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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Geoff Welsh]

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


That's what I'm getting too.

GW
on OSX
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/9/14 6:52 AM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4

When you guys are linking to this particular data source, where are you 
seeing it exactly? It does NOT show up in the page source!


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/8/14 10:03 PM +0900, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


Actually, you can edit existing entries in the prefs dialog, but I agree
it doesn't seem possible to add or delete entries.

To change the handler of a file type, select its entry at Edit |
Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications by clicking once. The name
of the handler becomes a button. Click the button and you get a
pull-down list, including the option "Use other..." If you don't see the
application you want to use in the list, click "Use other..." and select
the app there from among the ones the OS recognizes as capable of
handling the file type. OK out.

Yes, that was the gist of my post. You can edit what's already there, 
but you cannot add/remove MIME types. The ability to manually add and 
remove types used to be a feature of the browser. I do not know when it 
was ripped out, but the lack of usable MIME-type editing is an annoyance 
to me.


I find it interesting that some people are able to play this HTML5 video 
when Mozilla-based browsers very specifically do not yet support HTML5 
H.264 and MP4 video formats. I have no idea how that works.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote, On 08/05/2014 18:53:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!


Do you speak about this one ?

http://wqdatalive.com/uploads/video/TREC/NOAA_RSC_A_2014_05_07_12_02_00.mp4

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Surely you've got that backwards:  Shouldn't it be 50 M down and 20
up?

And, please cite specific sites where your issue happens.  No matter
what your ISP speeds, servers/specific sites throttle bandwidth. You
can do a speedtest.net test and see your ISP throughput but, in real
world usage, you'll never see those speeds.


I routinely get the bandwidth promised by my ISP and measured by
speedtest (49/39 just now vs. advertised 50/25). A client asked me to
download a 144 MB file the other day, it took only a minute. It wasn't
compressed, and Windows Explorer confirmed the size. Took her hours to
upload. ;-\

You're right that a slow server won't take advantage (arirang.co.kr is a
chronic offender, probably overloaded due to the ferry disaster), but
what's to keep you from pulling content from several servers at once?
Case in point (not that I'm advocating it): uTorrent and its kin.



Well, you can certainly download from multiple servers at once.  But
what's that to do with throughput on a throttled server that is NOT a
torrent?


Coupla things:

1) If your ISP has no limit but the server is slow, you'll still get 
slow performance and you can't blame the ISP or SeaMonkey. Not fixable.


2) If you're in a hurry to get something and your ISP's bandwidth 
supports it, several small pipes deliver more content per unit of time 
than one. Useful workaround for the OP if the ISP permits. Again, not 
SeaMonkey's fault.


Even without using uTorrent or the like, I routinely search terminology 
on Google and download several PDF hits at the same time rather than 
wait for each one separately. If I need to look at a few key sentences 
in each of five 50 MB files, it will take forever one at a time. This 
way, I can be working on one while the others load, and playing a music 
station and retrieving mail at the same time.


But mainly I was responding to your claim that "in real world usage, 
you'll never see those speeds." I see them all the time.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Larry S. wrote:


Hmm... I don't see much in the way of video Helper Applications,
although many (not all) videos play in my Windows 7 SM 2.26. Maybe I
don't recognize them. Here's what I think I have in Content Type:
Windows Media Audio/Video File and Movie Clip. There's no MPEG entries,
and no Video entries except Video Podcast.

I might (probably do?) have more that I don't recognize. Am I missing
something? Why do you have entries that I don't?


Depends (somewhat, anyway) on your experience. If SeaMonkey's never 
encountered a particular file type, then it's never had to ask you what 
to do with it, so it has no record. There are obviously a few built-in 
types like JPEG and GIF, but the first time it sees something like PPT 
it has to ask.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

On 05/08/2014 03:23 PM, Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
  
  
  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
  

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is
,

so no HTML5 support is needed.

As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still
played fine.



If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).



By the way, my Helper Applications show "VLC media player 2.1.3" for
"MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4)".


Hmm... I don't see much in the way of video Helper Applications,
although many (not all) videos play in my Windows 7 SM 2.26. Maybe I
don't recognize them. Here's what I think I have in Content Type:
Windows Media Audio/Video File and Movie Clip. There's no MPEG entries,
and no Video entries except Video Podcast.

I might (probably do?) have more that I don't recognize. Am I missing
something? Why do you have entries that I don't?

Larry S.



When I first checked Helper Applications in SeaMonkey I only had a few. 
A subsequent restart displayed the whole list.


Gremlins.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Larry S.]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
  
  
  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
  

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is
,
so no HTML5 support is needed.

As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.



If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).



By the way, my Helper Applications show "VLC media player 2.1.3" for
"MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4)".

Hmm... I don't see much in the way of video Helper Applications, 
although many (not all) videos play in my Windows 7 SM 2.26. Maybe I 
don't recognize them. Here's what I think I have in Content Type: 
Windows Media Audio/Video File and Movie Clip. There's no MPEG entries, 
and no Video entries except Video Podcast.


I might (probably do?) have more that I don't recognize. Am I missing 
something? Why do you have entries that I don't?


Larry S.
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

On 05/08/2014 12:52 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
  
  
  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
  

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is
,
so no HTML5 support is needed.

As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.



If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).



By the way, my Helper Applications show "VLC media player 2.1.3" for
"MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4)".




Scratch that last post. All of a sudden everything showed up in my 
SeaMonkey Helper Applications.


Setting all plugins to always ask, MPEG Video and MPEG-4 Video in Helper 
Applications to 'Always ask', quitting and restarting, and the video 
still plays for me.


Just set every damn video format to 'Always ask', cleared cookies and 
cache, quit, restarted, and the video plays for me.


smdh

I quit, too nice out to be inside.




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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

On 05/08/2014 12:52 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
  
  
  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
  

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is
,
so no HTML5 support is needed.

As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.



If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).



By the way, my Helper Applications show "VLC media player 2.1.3" for
"MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4)".




My Helper Applications don't show anything for 'MPEG-4 File Format 
(video/mp4)', but I do have Preview in SeaMonkey for 'Video Podcast'.


Is the video a podcast perhaps and that is why it plays for me with all 
my plugins disabled.


Just checked my Firefox 29.0 and Video Podcast is set to Preview in 
Firefox, while the Helper Application for MPEG-4 video is set to use my 
Xine plugin. Just set the helper Application to always ask, disabled all 
the plugins in Firefox, quit and restarted, video still plays for me.


I think it is a podcast. YMMV
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Ed Mullen]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


My SM is using Apple's QuickTime as the helper app.  Works fine.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[David E. Ross]

On 5/8/2014 8:11 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Robert Gault wrote:
>>> Tom Pamin wrote:
 
 So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
>>>
>>> There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
>>> whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
>>> tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
>>> Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.
>>>
>>> If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
>>>  
>>>
>>> This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
>>> HTML5 sites.
>>
>> But the file in question is 
>> ,
>>  
>> so no HTML5 support is needed.
>>
>> As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.
>>
> 
> If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
>  link and then navigate to Near Shore
> Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
> Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
> Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
> with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
> into the area).
> 

By the way, my Helper Applications show "VLC media player 2.1.3" for
"MPEG-4 File Format (video/mp4)".

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Ed Mullen]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25


Watching that for more than ten seconds was starting to make me seasick!

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Ed Mullen]

Daniel wrote:

On 8/05/2014 11:37 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:





My car will go
130 MPH but there's no road in the U.S. that will let me drive that fast.


Come on over, Ed! Australia's Northern Territory used to have unlimited
speed restrictions, but, about five years ago, restricted it to 130Km/H
(approx 80-85 MpH) but has recently switched back to unlimited!! :-)

Daniel




:-)

Texas has the highest limits.  80 MPH on some highways.  Idaho 75-80 on 
some rural highways.  Most others are in the 65-70 range.




The fastest I've ever driven is about 125 MPH.  But that was on the Ford 
road course in Dearborn, MI.  Spent an afternoon tossing a variety of 
test cars around the course.  Great fun!!!  Shoulda seen the waiver I 
had to sign. :-D


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Ed Mullen]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Surely you've got that backwards:  Shouldn't it be 50 M down and 20
up?

And, please cite specific sites where your issue happens.  No matter
what your ISP speeds, servers/specific sites throttle bandwidth. You
can do a speedtest.net test and see your ISP throughput but, in real
world usage, you'll never see those speeds.


I routinely get the bandwidth promised by my ISP and measured by
speedtest (49/39 just now vs. advertised 50/25). A client asked me to
download a 144 MB file the other day, it took only a minute. It wasn't
compressed, and Windows Explorer confirmed the size. Took her hours to
upload. ;-\

You're right that a slow server won't take advantage (arirang.co.kr is a
chronic offender, probably overloaded due to the ferry disaster), but
what's to keep you from pulling content from several servers at once?
Case in point (not that I'm advocating it): uTorrent and its kin.



Well, you can certainly download from multiple servers at once.  But 
what's that to do with throughput on a throttled server that is NOT a 
torrent?


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[David E. Ross]

On 5/8/2014 6:09 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Robert Gault wrote:
>> Tom Pamin wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
>>
>> There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
>> whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
>> tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
>> Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.
>>
>> If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
>>  
>>  
>>  Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
>>  
>>
>> This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
>> HTML5 sites.
> 
> But the file in question is 
> ,
>  
> so no HTML5 support is needed.
> 
> As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.
> 

If I click that .mp4 link, I get the video in VLC.  But if I clock the
 link and then navigate to Near Shore
Bout and Latest Video, I get the original poster's problem.
Furthermore, if I enable FlashBlock before starting the navigation to
Latest Video, I get an indication that the video is Flash (f in a circle
with the f changing to a right-pointing triangle if I move my cursor
into the area).

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 08/05/2014 10:18:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME 
type

found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
>>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

ok, Work For Me - Windows 7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.0 SeaMonkey/2.24

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[WaltS48]

On 05/08/2014 09:01 AM, Tom Pamin wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

How did you get this to work, since SM has problems with this type of
HTML5 video?



I have no idea.

I just set all my plugins to 'Never Activate', cleared cache and 
cookies, quit SeaMonkey and restarted and the video still plays.


I think my SeaMonkey is broke.

Just conducted the same experiment with Firefox 29.0. Video plays just 
fine with all three of my plugins (Java, Flash and Xine) disabled.



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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
 
 
 Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
 

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.


But the file in question is 
, 
so no HTML5 support is needed.


As a test, I switched my pref from VLC to WMP and the vid still played fine.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
How did you get this to work, since SM has problems with this type of 
HTML5 video?

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


Actually, you can edit existing entries in the prefs dialog, but I agree 
it doesn't seem possible to add or delete entries.


To change the handler of a file type, select its entry at Edit | 
Preferences | Browser | Helper Applications by clicking once. The name 
of the handler becomes a button. Click the button and you get a 
pull-down list, including the option "Use other..." If you don't see the 
application you want to use in the list, click "Use other..." and select 
the app there from among the ones the OS recognizes as capable of 
handling the file type. OK out.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/8/14 9:35 PM +0900, Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for Helpers
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4
points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says


Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.


This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
sites.

SeaMonkey does handle HTML5 video, but not all HTML5 video is the same. 
WebM and Ogg/Theora work fine. H.264/MP4 seem to be problematic. It is 
the latter that is featured on the OP's site.


For what it's worth, Firefox 29.0 doesn't do it, either. So, yeah, this 
isn't going to work with Mozilla browsers for at least the time being.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

Robert Gault wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on
whether the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have
tested for Helpers both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3.
Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 points to these helpers.

If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says
 
 
 Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.
 

This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle
HTML5 sites.
It does work using IE on 2 of my PC, except on one of my PC's it plays 
's but only shows a black screen. Any ideas?

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Robert Gault]

Tom Pamin wrote:


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?


There appears to be considerable differences among Seamonkey users on whether 
the video can be played. It will not work for me and I have tested for Helpers 
both Windows Media Player and Quicktime 7.7.3. Seamonkey shows that video/mp4 
points to these helpers.


If I look at the page source with Seamonkey, the entry for mp4 says


Your browser does not support playing HTML5 videos.


This may be the problem although I thought that Seamonkey would handle HTML5 
sites.
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I
can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper
application, the video frame still shows the same error.

Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


So, do you know if it's possible to play these using SM?
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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/8/14 7:00 PM +0900, Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?

In theory, yes, but SeaMonkey devs removed the ability to manually 
add/remove MIME types via the Helper Applications dialog. Now the only 
way to do it would be to dig into your profile and edit mimeTypes.rdf. I 
gave it the college try to fix this, but even though I was able to add 
video/mp4 as a MIME type and set QuickTime plugin as the helper 
application, the video frame still shows the same error.


Editing mimeTypes.rdf is messy and prone to error. If you go playing in 
there, make a backup copy of the file just in case. Good luck with it.


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Seamonkey 2.26 is up on Ubuntuzilla now.

[Cruz, Jaime]

Got a pleasant surprise when I checked for updates this morning. Update 
went without a hitch.


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Daniel]

On 8/05/2014 11:37 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:





  My car will go
130 MPH but there's no road in the U.S. that will let me drive that fast.


Come on over, Ed! Australia's Northern Territory used to have unlimited 
speed restrictions, but, about five years ago, restricted it to 130Km/H 
(approx 80-85 MpH) but has recently switched back to unlimited!! :-)


Daniel


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

Tom Pamin wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME
type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.


I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app.
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?


Also, it works in SM if I switch the page to IE using IE Tab.
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

[Daniel]

On 8/05/2014 6:57 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 07/05/2014 17:57:

On 05/07/2014 11:01 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote, On 07/05/2014 15:33:

On 5/6/2014 1:22 AM PT, E Wong typed:


So you have two bugs for the price of one.
1. The "Load this bookmark in the sidebar" option is not working.
2. Once set, you cannot reset the "Load this bookmark in the sidebar"
option.


Is there a bug filed for this?


I found these old ones a few days ago:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613974
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695425
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613971

And the *solution* is ?



More of the I'm a computer software guy, but don't want to do computer
stuff anymore to get in involved and start fixing some of the bugs.

SeaMonkey is a part-time all volunteer effort.

Full-time jobs, families, life crisises like all humans, spare time on
SeaMonkey. When do they sleep?

Therefore we can state that SeaMonkey is a a too big and too complicated
application that cannot be maintained ..BUT the volunteers have plenty
of time to play with and invent new gadgets rendering this application
more and more difficult to apprehend.


"We can state that SeaMonkey is a a too big and too complicated 
application that cannot be maintained .. by you!"


or, even

"We can state that SeaMonkey is a a too big and too complicated 
application that cannot be maintained .. by me!"


but not

"We cannot state that SeaMonkey is a a too big and too complicated 
application that cannot be maintained .. by anyone!"   ... I hope.


Daniel

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Tom Pamin]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
 >>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

I got it to work in IE using Windows Media Player as the helper app. 
Still no luck in SM when I set WMP as the helper app. How do I set this 
up in SM to work? Can I set the WMP plugin to be the helper?

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


Follow the OP's instructions:
>>>click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then Latest Video.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/8/14 4:20 PM +0900, Trane Francks wrote:

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle


It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop
all the time.


I'll add that the video plays just fine in Safari 6.1.3. H.

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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Trane Francks]

On 5/8/14 4:03 PM +0900, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25

I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and
the title:
Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle

It's under the Near Shore Buoy Latest Video section. It appears that I 
do not have a relevant helper configured for this, either, which is odd 
considering that it's a plain ol' MP4. I play MP4 video on the desktop 
all the time.


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Re: Videos Won't Play

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote, On 08/05/2014 04:10:

On 05/07/2014 09:49 PM, Tom Pamin wrote:

We have a new weather buoy in Lake Erie with video. Problem is I can't
get them to play. SM says "No video with supported format and MIME type
found."

If you go to this site, click on Near Shore Buoy at the bottom, then
Latest Video. Can anyone get these videos to play? Using IE, they at
least try to play, but only with black screens.



This one? 

Plays just fine in my SeaMonkey 2.25
I click on your link and i cannot see any video, just a google map and 
the title:

Regional Science Consortium
Tom Ridge Environmental Center at Presque Isle
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